WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.679 --> 00:00:07.559 Welcome back to another episode of Astrology with Alice. I'm 2 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:10.880 here with my good friend and fellow astrologer Maxine, who 3 00:00:10.960 --> 00:00:13.199 has been on the podcast before, and we also used 4 00:00:13.199 --> 00:00:17.199 to have a whole podcast together, Astrology and you. Welcome back, Maccine. 5 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:21.480 Thanks Alice. I'm so happy to be here. Honestly, we're 6 00:00:21.519 --> 00:00:24.399 a bit resty, we were just saying before this episode 7 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:27.640 started because I haven't really been doing much. I've been 8 00:00:27.679 --> 00:00:30.039 taking a kind of pause from social media. 9 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:32.119 Yeah, we'll talk about me here. We'll talk about all 10 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:36.920 the transits of our slower time in life recently. But yeah, 11 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:38.960 you're in town for my baby shower. So I'm just 12 00:00:38.960 --> 00:00:41.240 so excited to see you. I know where do you 13 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:42.880 live now? For everyone that doesn't know. 14 00:00:42.840 --> 00:00:45.960 Oh yeah, big update. So we were living in Spain 15 00:00:46.159 --> 00:00:49.240 and then we just recently moved back in October to 16 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:53.119 the Midwest. We live in a very small town. 17 00:00:53.479 --> 00:00:54.640 Now I need to visit you. 18 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:57.159 Yeah, yeah, it is where I grew up, so like 19 00:00:57.240 --> 00:00:59.359 that's kind of yeah, we ended up there, but you 20 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:00.479 definitely need to visit. 21 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:05.400 Oh love. Wait for everyone that doesn't remember from last time, 22 00:01:05.400 --> 00:01:06.760 what is your sun moon and rising? 23 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:09.840 Yes? So I am a tourist sun, Scorpio Moon, and 24 00:01:09.920 --> 00:01:11.480 Gemini rising love. 25 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:14.879 I just like how you're almost like have a similar 26 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:18.200 chart as my husband because he's tourists on Scorpio Moon 27 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:19.959 saj rising, like the opposite. 28 00:01:20.200 --> 00:01:22.519 Yeah. And for those listening, when Alice is like, this 29 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:24.879 is his chart and she started dating Jesse, I was like, 30 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:29.040 he seems like an awesome guy, because basically I think 31 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:30.400 you guys will get along really well. 32 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:33.480 Yeah. So for this episode, we kind of just wanted 33 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:35.680 to jump around to like a lot of different topics, right, 34 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:39.560 I want to talk about like what I guess, like 35 00:01:39.640 --> 00:01:42.200 so much astrology has changed over the last few months. 36 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:44.519 Like we went from the start of twenty twenty six 37 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:47.599 with like so much water and earth energy, and I know, 38 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:49.280 like you were in your Saturn return in the last 39 00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:52.120 couple of years, I just had Saturn in the eighth house, 40 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:55.519 which was a whole other beast. But I feel like 41 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:58.239 the vibe has very much shifted in the last few 42 00:01:58.280 --> 00:02:01.480 weeks with Jupiter now and Leo. The nodes are shifting 43 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:03.439 to Leo and Aquarius. Just a couple of days after 44 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:05.959 we record this, this is July twenty fourth. By the way, 45 00:02:07.519 --> 00:02:08.719 how are you like feeling. 46 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:13.680 I've talked about this, Alison. You're very happy about this 47 00:02:13.879 --> 00:02:18.240 because it just feels like when your chart is dominated 48 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:21.919 like by rising sign it just the way that the 49 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:25.639 plants are shifting into these fire and air signs, it 50 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:28.000 just feels so much lighter because it gets out of 51 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:30.520 the heavier houses personally of my chart. 52 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:34.639 Yeah, it's interesting, like the even like the career focused house, 53 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:36.960 like a solder return in the tenth house, like it's 54 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:40.240 not light. And I remember, like the last major transit 55 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:42.120 I had and the tenth was Jupiter through the tenth 56 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:45.120 and that was kind of heavy too. So it's interesting 57 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:48.080 how it's not just like twelfth, eighth, fourth, yeah, like 58 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:50.280 as the more emotional houses, but it can also be 59 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:53.319 like tenth six second too. 60 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:56.680 And I feel like it's because they are these houses 61 00:02:56.680 --> 00:03:01.719 where you're building or you're just mean to, Like it 62 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:06.039 feels like those houses are so inner reflective and you 63 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:08.879 have to kind of take stock of where you've been, 64 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:11.319 and they're very heavy in the past. I feel like 65 00:03:11.319 --> 00:03:14.680 compared to the other houses of the chart, like the first, 66 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:19.520 the third, the yeah, the odd numbered houses, Yeah. 67 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:22.039 Personally, those are more like creatively inspired, like where you're 68 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:24.560 like meeting people, you're going out into the world like 69 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:27.520 you're having fun. Yeah, and then things get so serious 70 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:30.400 when it's like the even number houses. I didn't even 71 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:32.360 put that together. It's like even versus odds. 72 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:34.120 I know, it's actually finny. I said that, and it 73 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:35.759 was like, oh, that is true. That's an easy way 74 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:36.159 to remember. 75 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:40.479 Yeah, well, you're a Gemini rising. Have you noticed a 76 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:43.120 lot happening with Urinus now in Gemini? 77 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:47.639 Yeah, so that has been huge. Actually I knew i'd 78 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:51.479 feel it a lot, but I have really noticed just 79 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:54.919 Urinus being in my first house. Like any planet in astrology, 80 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:58.280 especially outer planets, in your first house, I feel like 81 00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:03.199 you feel them so intimately m M, and I mean 82 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:05.479 anything to your sum moon rising, but the first house, 83 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:09.759 especially with Uranus, there just feels like that impetus for 84 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:14.639 change and for feeling like I'm so aware of patterns 85 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:19.079 and just thinking about the future or kind of like 86 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:22.199 I've I've really honestly also been struggling with my mental 87 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:25.720 health a lot more about because that's part of Urinus too. 88 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:28.319 It for some people like so that's already kind of 89 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:31.600 constellated in your chart maybe, but it does make me 90 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:34.600 in my head even that much more, I think, So 91 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:38.199 that's been one part of it. Yea. But but yeah, 92 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:40.920 in like a way where I'm excited, like like looking 93 00:04:40.959 --> 00:04:42.240 forward to what's next. 94 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:45.759 It's almost like hard to describe first house transits, like 95 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:47.920 I find when I'm writing horoscopes, I'm like, what should 96 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:51.639 I say about this, because first house applies to like, yes, 97 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:54.759 your literal self, but it like creates change in all 98 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:57.199 of these different areas, like it could come from anywhere. 99 00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:01.040 Yeah, because it's just like that takes such a hold 100 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:03.920 of your whole life when any planets through the first house, 101 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:08.560 So like Urinus is so much about transformation, the first 102 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:12.800 house is affecting every area of your life. So yeah, 103 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:14.759 it just kind of has a grip over your whole 104 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:18.240 chart because that's the lens through which you're seeing the 105 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:20.920 world is the first House. So it's like, yeah, like 106 00:05:21.079 --> 00:05:24.399 everything is being turned upside down, especially in an outer 107 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:26.079 planet transit in the first. 108 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:28.480 I guess we're both having huge first house because like 109 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:30.560 when we're talking about outer planets, it was like, oh, 110 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:33.040 I don't have anything major through the first house, and 111 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:35.519 then I'm like wait a minute, Like I have Jupiter there, 112 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:38.560 and now I have eclipses coming up, and it's almost 113 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:41.480 like feeling like you're on the brink of like a 114 00:05:41.519 --> 00:05:44.480 bigger life change coming up, but you don't know like 115 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:45.600 what it'll result in. 116 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:49.240 I guess yeah, because you can't. And also when you're 117 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:51.480 I always feel like this is true probably for a 118 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:55.000 lot of transits, but especially outer planets to such personal 119 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:58.639 plants like your son, with Pluto transitting over your son, Like, yeah, 120 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:02.279 when you're in it, it's so hard to step back 121 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:06.959 and see all the shifts happening and how just how 122 00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:09.800 drastic of a transformation is unfolding. 123 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:12.680 And sometimes it's very internal too, like I feel like 124 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:15.680 with Pluto to my son, like yes, I'm having a baby, 125 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:18.480 Like that's a huge result of that transit. But it's 126 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:21.600 also like internal mindset shifts. It's like stuff I used 127 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:24.480 to care about or fix it on, like just falling away, 128 00:06:24.519 --> 00:06:27.040 Like I don't obsess over that as much anymore. 129 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:30.680 Yeah, like that's the Pluto burning ground. Yeah, it's almost 130 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:33.240 like Pluto to your son. Well, you have to tell me, like, 131 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:35.160 how are you feeling it other than the baby, because 132 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:36.759 that's a big identity shift. 133 00:06:37.079 --> 00:06:40.040 I feel like, I don't know. It's interesting with outer 134 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:43.439 planet transits because it's like there's one like event, like 135 00:06:43.439 --> 00:06:46.920 for me, it's having the baby that then results in 136 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:49.920 like all of these other shifts within yourself. But it's 137 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:53.959 like the catalyst event occurs. So I do kind of 138 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:56.360 feel like as I prepare to become a mother and 139 00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:59.439 I'm like heavily pregnant right now, it's like all these 140 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:02.360 other added it's about like career or like home and 141 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:05.319 family life, or like shifting as a result. But it's 142 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:07.519 like that one event is like causing it to happen. 143 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:10.680 Yeah, like that's the obvious thing people would point to, 144 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:16.040 but that's also happening within you too, and it's shifting 145 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:17.360 so much around. 146 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:20.560 And even like the sun being like the my ascendant ruler, 147 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:23.120 even like my sense of style, like what clothes I'm 148 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:25.079 drawn to, Like that's changing because I'm like, oh, this 149 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:27.279 doesn't work for becoming a mom. I can't. 150 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:29.439 Oh my gosh. Yeah, I didn't even think of that, Alice, 151 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:32.720 because not only is it yeah, it also brings your ascendant. 152 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:35.480 But yeah, but I would say, like another thing I've 153 00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:38.040 noticed is just like not caring as much what people think. 154 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:40.040 Like I've noticed that in you a ton like just 155 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:41.600 you're so grounded. 156 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:43.319 Yeah, it's interesting. 157 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:46.639 Yeah, like you're not. It's really cool to see that 158 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:49.079 shift where I feel like maybe just because also your 159 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:52.920 priorities are so focused on like this next chapter and 160 00:07:52.959 --> 00:07:56.759 your baby. But yeah, it looks very good on you. 161 00:07:56.879 --> 00:07:59.519 It's still the very start of the transit too, Like 162 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:02.720 my son at six, Pluto's still like at the end 163 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:04.680 of five. It hasn't. I don't think it's gotten to 164 00:08:04.720 --> 00:08:08.160 like six yet. Yeah, but it'll be interesting, like because 165 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:10.519 it's such like a two to three year transit. Like 166 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:13.399 if we touch space in twenty twenty nine, like how 167 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:14.639 much has changed you. 168 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:16.959 Know, Yeah, and you'll look back and be like, oh 169 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:19.199 my gosh, that was life transforming. 170 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:22.040 Yeah, and you like same with Uranus, Like we could 171 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:24.759 fast forward to the twenty thirties and it's like, yeah, 172 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:26.839 I bet your life goes through so many more changes 173 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:28.000 in the next several years. 174 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:33.000 Totally. Yeah, any of those outer most planetary transits, they'll 175 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:37.600 have such a Yeah, they just kind of unraveled these 176 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:42.039 parts of you that like when they touch on personal planets, 177 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:45.000 it's crazy afterwards. Like I remember when Uranus went over 178 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:49.480 my son several years ago, and that was just it 179 00:08:49.639 --> 00:08:52.240 shifted so much like there's before that transit and there's 180 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:55.120 after that transit. Yeah, but like during it, I do 181 00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:58.120 feel like it really asks at least me, maybe because 182 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:01.600 I'm not like I like change, not that you don't 183 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:03.240 have the control over your things. 184 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:05.320 I think that's well, we both have our son and 185 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:09.360 fixed signs like Taurus Aquarius. It's like we as an Aquarius. 186 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:11.080 You think it's about change, but it's like I like 187 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:12.320 change on it's on my own terms. 188 00:09:12.399 --> 00:09:15.200 Yes, Yeah, And I think when you can't control things, 189 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:18.080 or when you realize that there are just things you 190 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:21.320 can't have any control over and you're so used to 191 00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:25.480 just being able to work really hard at something and 192 00:09:25.519 --> 00:09:28.559 it works, or you're used to like just you know, 193 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:30.879 things kind of go in that direction that you've been 194 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:34.720 working towards and it's not happening, or things just happened 195 00:09:34.759 --> 00:09:35.639 to you in different ways. 196 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:39.120 Yeah, it looks what I get excited about, like with 197 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:42.120 Eclipses to my son and Pluto to my son, like 198 00:09:42.159 --> 00:09:44.360 going back to like how we both had Urinus activate 199 00:09:44.360 --> 00:09:46.559 our son, Like yes, that was like a while ago now, 200 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:50.519 like six seven years ago. It's just I get excited 201 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:53.399 because it's who I was before that is completely different. 202 00:09:53.879 --> 00:09:55.879 Like I didn't know astrology before. You're in a smooth 203 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:58.440 to Taurus and squared my son in Aquarius. So I 204 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:00.600 get excited. I'm like, I don't even know what it's coming, 205 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:03.720 but I know it's like a change. Yeah, but like 206 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:05.960 I don't know, it's there's something exciting about it instead 207 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:06.440 of scary. 208 00:10:06.799 --> 00:10:10.639 Yeah. I agree, And I think the more that I 209 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:12.879 the more that we've done astrology, you know, we've talked 210 00:10:12.919 --> 00:10:15.320 about this, but you kind of look forward to transits 211 00:10:15.399 --> 00:10:18.879 that other people kind of fear or fear monger about. 212 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:21.600 I guess you'll read something in an old astrology book. Yeah, 213 00:10:21.759 --> 00:10:24.600 like terrifying to read, but you just know that's not 214 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:28.759 I mean, there are lots of potentials, but it's really 215 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:32.120 beautiful to see how that can be more metaphorical or 216 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:33.919 it can go in a different way, like how that 217 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:41.120 energy manifest It's so different. Yeah, and yeah, I guess 218 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:42.879 this I have to accept because it's going to happen 219 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:44.960 no matter what. So it's kind of like, Okay, let's 220 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:48.159 just see what happens. Kind of as an observer, that's 221 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:48.799 so true. 222 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:50.919 I guess this episode is coming out like a couple 223 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:53.320 of weeks book ahead of like the Leo solar eclipse 224 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:55.639 and then a few weeks before the Pizeeslonar clips and 225 00:10:55.679 --> 00:10:58.879 the clipses are so much about change, and there's always 226 00:10:58.919 --> 00:11:01.519 so much like fear around eclipses, but like I love them. 227 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:02.679 We've always loved a club. 228 00:11:02.919 --> 00:11:05.759 Ye yeah, yeah, they like bring in this new chapter. 229 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:10.360 Yes, and that's what you remember we were talking about 230 00:11:10.399 --> 00:11:13.679 this earlier. But just how when we got into astrology. 231 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:18.120 That was back with the Leo Aguarus eclipses. Yeah, a 232 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:18.840 long time ago. 233 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:22.919 And that was your nine turn, which makes sense because 234 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:27.600 it's like spirituality's ninth and that was my first seventh. Yeah, 235 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:29.200 so it's like identity. 236 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:30.399 And angles for both of us. 237 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:33.519 Yeah, you're mid Heaven and Aquarius and Icy and Leo 238 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:38.919 and my Leo Aquarius. It's just huge when transits happened 239 00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:40.240 to the angles. 240 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:43.440 Yeah, it's so profound and even I mean I feel 241 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.480 like it's funny because most people know the angle is 242 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:51.320 your rising sign ascendant, but yeah, the mid Heaven is 243 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:53.960 so powerful and all of you know, all four of. 244 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:58.559 The yeah, changing like life direction almost Well, it'll be 245 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:01.240 interesting to see like how it's like, okay, we got 246 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:05.000 into astrology. The last Leo Aquarius eclipses. Now that they're 247 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:08.559 coming back around like eight to nine years later, how 248 00:12:08.600 --> 00:12:11.200 does like the approach change a bit, or how do 249 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:13.879 we go in a different direction with astrology or new 250 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:15.840 interests start to come up that you want to blend 251 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:19.159 with it. Have you started to feel like more inspired again? 252 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:22.000 Because we talked about like Saturn and pieces was heavy, 253 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:24.480 I had no creative inspiration that whole transit. 254 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:26.960 Yes, was the case for me too. 255 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:30.080 It just felt very like I don't know, like too 256 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:32.799 much going on internally to even like experiment or have 257 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:35.000 fun with like the content I was putting out or 258 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:36.039 what I wanted to share about. 259 00:12:36.159 --> 00:12:38.159 Yeah, I feel like I've been coming out of a 260 00:12:38.200 --> 00:12:42.039 winter season and you have to in a way. But yeah, 261 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:45.759 and I think that now having there's a lot of 262 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:47.960 transits that go into this. But I definitely have been 263 00:12:47.960 --> 00:12:50.759 feeling more creatively inspired and I have so many ideas. 264 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:52.480 It almost feels like I have so many ideas though 265 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:54.639 I don't even know where to begin. Like it feels 266 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:56.840 kind of that same energy I had back in twenty 267 00:12:56.879 --> 00:13:00.919 eighteen with that first eclipse and Aquarius for me, where 268 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:04.360 I was like, oh wait, there's so much here that 269 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:08.440 excites me. So yeah, I'm curious where it goes. I 270 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:09.639 don't really know because I'm in it. 271 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:12.679 But I mean there's still like so home, there's still 272 00:13:12.679 --> 00:13:16.639 two more Leo eclipses and three more Aquarius sort of 273 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:19.159 like build upon each other. Yeah, we only have that 274 00:13:19.240 --> 00:13:21.000 initial Aquarius eclipse. 275 00:13:21.399 --> 00:13:23.799 Yeah, so that we've got a taste of it. Yeah, 276 00:13:23.879 --> 00:13:25.240 back in February. 277 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:28.519 So you moved from Spain. Was that end of last 278 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:29.799 year or early this year? 279 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:32.679 October twenty twenty five? 280 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:37.159 Okay, Yeah, what was like the astrology behind your big move. 281 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:40.600 I really think I had a lot to do with 282 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:44.840 when Jupiter moved into cancer that was in June, but 283 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:48.480 like that was kind of out of nowhere, just being 284 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:51.960 like an opportunity came up that yeah we're like, oh wait, 285 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:55.480 we could go do this, and just a lot came up, 286 00:13:55.480 --> 00:13:58.320 I think, like a lot of emotions. And I also 287 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:00.639 think I've been talking to a lot of people about that, 288 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:02.440 just like in the DMS and stuff, but about like 289 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:04.879 Jupiter moving into cancer how it affected them in a 290 00:14:04.879 --> 00:14:07.559 similar way. Because I mentioned it's about kind of made 291 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:10.360 me homesick, which is a feeling that I usually don't 292 00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:12.879 feel that much. But I feel like Jupiter in the 293 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:16.879 Sign of Cancer, which is so much about home. It 294 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:18.039 you know, triggered that for me. 295 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:21.080 So even though it was like second house, Yeah, I 296 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:23.360 also feel like the eclipses in your fourth we're just 297 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:28.159 big four okay, like seeing family more frequently and also 298 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:29.720 having a huge move like that. 299 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:32.279 Yeah, the last time was when I moved to New 300 00:14:32.360 --> 00:14:36.960 York back in sixteen clips. Yeah, like the week of 301 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:38.600 the Virgo eclipse, I moved to New York. 302 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:42.759 That's so cool to see like the patterns over years, 303 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:44.960 how like a similar change gets brought up. 304 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:49.600 Yeah, So it's been really it's been a really big adjustment. 305 00:14:49.639 --> 00:14:52.679 I feel like moving back to a small rural town 306 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:55.600 like where I grew up, but in a really good way. 307 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:57.879 Like it's been really fun being by my family and 308 00:14:57.919 --> 00:15:01.120 see my sister as more and I love the Yeah. 309 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:03.399 And it's so bizarre because a year prior we were 310 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:06.240 looking for homes in Spain. So it's like such a 311 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:07.279 dramatic shift. 312 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:09.320 What was interesting, how like at the start of the 313 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:11.919 Virgo eclips as, you were like, I'm gonna settle down 314 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:14.200 in Spain and this home and then like the next 315 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:17.080 set of eclipses in Virgo came along and you were like, wait, 316 00:15:17.200 --> 00:15:19.080 just kidding, like we're moving back to the US. 317 00:15:19.279 --> 00:15:21.159 I know, and I think it also, I mean it's 318 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:24.639 not I think the bigger, grander scheme, like if I 319 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:28.639 zoom out more. When Pluto even shifted into Aquarius, like 320 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:31.080 back in twenty twenty three, I feel like I already 321 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:33.559 started to feel the breadcrumbs leading. 322 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:35.840 Me to moving back to the US because that was 323 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:38.039 I mean, Aquarius is your ninth house, but is it 324 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:40.759 also because it's opposite to your Icy affecting that. 325 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:43.360 I think it had to be like yeah, my angles 326 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:47.159 of the Icy and Leo and like that home part. 327 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:49.600 But I think also just it's squaring my moon and 328 00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:55.679 my son like that combined with all these outer planets 329 00:15:55.720 --> 00:15:59.320 for everyone listening, are affecting people. If you have especially planets, 330 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:02.559 an early degree of any sign because it's either conjunct, opposing, 331 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:05.759 or squaring. Yeah, you're in a snaptunner Pluto right now. 332 00:16:05.840 --> 00:16:08.440 That's a good point how it's like the early placements 333 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:11.480 of these signs, and then it's if you have later 334 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:14.559 Aquarius or later fixed sign, like you're not gonna feel 335 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:17.960 Pluto until like the twenty thirties twenty forties. 336 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:20.840 Yeah, it's like okay, and nothing's happened yet, and it's 337 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:21.720 like it's dormant. 338 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:26.600 Yeah, stuff will happen, I guess with the Aquarius eclipses. Yeah, 339 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:29.279 but like it's always important to like time it with 340 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:31.759 your own chart, like when does it reach exact degrees? 341 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:34.440 Yeah, basically, yeah, exactly. 342 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:39.039 I want to pivot and talk a bit about like 343 00:16:39.440 --> 00:16:43.840 pregnancy and also like children, like parent children like chart semistry, 344 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:46.200 because I feel like every time we get on a call, 345 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:49.159 we're like always trying to figure out what my child's 346 00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:51.200 birth TRUG will be. And I just wanted to go 347 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:53.759 over like what are we like, how are we coming 348 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:58.720 up with these dates? Like what are important alignments you 349 00:16:58.840 --> 00:17:03.200 often see between parents and children? And like, I don't know, 350 00:17:03.320 --> 00:17:04.880 I feel like people are always interested in that. 351 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:07.920 Yeah, I mean it's so fun parent child's and his 352 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:11.000 history as its whole, it's a whole nother just because 353 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:15.160 but it's so revealing of these key actual dynamics you 354 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:17.839 have between like if you don't get along with your mom, 355 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:20.599 or if you really get along with a sibling even 356 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:23.119 or like the family dynamics are so fun to look at. 357 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:25.920 Yeah, what do you think, like, is what do you 358 00:17:25.960 --> 00:17:29.839 see the most frequently with I don't know, do you 359 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:32.359 see it differently for like mom and child versus dad 360 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:34.319 and child, or I kind of see it does the same. 361 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:37.079 I'm so curious with you how you'll respond to this 362 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:38.599 because I want to hear what your thoughts are. But 363 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:42.440 I feel like there's always it depends, But I I 364 00:17:43.240 --> 00:17:45.640 feel like it's so tied up in past lifetimes m M. 365 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:48.640 And you can't know that, like who who has more 366 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:51.440 of a tie, Like I think sometimes it's more connected 367 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:53.880 the child is and their astrology to the mom or 368 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:57.079 to the dad, and you know, like that shows up 369 00:17:57.079 --> 00:17:59.880 in its own timing, but it always does have some 370 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:02.640 sort of tie into their charts, like one or the 371 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:03.359 other both. 372 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:06.799 Yeah. Yeah, Like I feel kind of going back to 373 00:18:06.839 --> 00:18:08.480 what we were just talking about with the angles being 374 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:10.839 so important in your chart. I do feel like there 375 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:13.559 always needs to be like a match up between the 376 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:15.599 angles that the child has in their chart and the 377 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:17.039 angles of the parent hause. 378 00:18:17.039 --> 00:18:20.640 Yeah, angles are huge or its sun moon moon is 379 00:18:20.799 --> 00:18:23.720 so much about family and the mother especially, Like, yeah, 380 00:18:23.759 --> 00:18:25.440 the sun ties in a lot of time with the 381 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:28.319 dad or the father figure too. Like mother figure. 382 00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:33.200 Yeah, do you associate fourth house with like a single 383 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:37.079 parent or because like I know some astrologers like, oh, 384 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:39.599 tenth houses mom, fourth house is dad. I very much 385 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:40.880 see fourth houses mom. 386 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:44.240 I'm more inclined to see that. I think it. Also, 387 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:46.519 it's really interesting because I have seen it with clients 388 00:18:46.559 --> 00:18:49.400 where it's the reverse where I feel like but that 389 00:18:49.839 --> 00:18:51.720 like let's say their dad was a stay at home 390 00:18:51.799 --> 00:18:54.759 dad or they had a single parent. I just think 391 00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:57.759 the fourth house has so much tie into family and 392 00:18:57.839 --> 00:19:00.480 the nurturing most nurturing person. 393 00:19:01.039 --> 00:19:05.079 Yeah, it's okay interesting, and then the ruling planet of 394 00:19:05.160 --> 00:19:08.680 the fourth giving more clues into that relationship with the 395 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:13.279 dynamic than the family. Yeah, going back to like parent 396 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:17.440 child seinistery stuff too, like just what I wanted to say, 397 00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:20.200 Like in addition to the talk about the angles, like 398 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:23.000 I'll see often a parent will have like one rising 399 00:19:23.079 --> 00:19:25.240 sign and then the child will have that as like 400 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:29.160 their mid heaven sign. Like so for instance, like I 401 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:30.680