WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:17.920 What's up, everybody. It's me Cecily here with Stephanie. I 2 00:00:19.320 --> 00:00:21.760 eat no, I don't know. Does my voice sound kind 3 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:23.359 of cheerleader? Do I sound kind of sexy? 4 00:00:23.399 --> 00:00:25.039 Hot? Like yeah, hot? 5 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:27.879 Yeah. 6 00:00:28.199 --> 00:00:31.440 I don't want to brag. I don't want to brag. 7 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:34.159 I don't want to, but you should. But I'm going to. 8 00:00:34.479 --> 00:00:35.200 I need to. 9 00:00:35.479 --> 00:00:37.359 I don't want to. It's just one of those things. 10 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:40.039 I went to Death Cab for Cutie last night, and 11 00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:41.960 it's not like I was screaming, you know. 12 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:44.399 I'm not like, oh I don't. 13 00:00:44.200 --> 00:00:48.960 Scream or no songs, but you were talking loudly, you know, 14 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:51.359 at a very loud concert, when you're kind of talking 15 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:52.520 to your friend or like, oh, I'm gonna go to 16 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:54.719 the bathroom whatever. You talk loudly for a long time, 17 00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:56.600 you kind of lose your at this age, and I 18 00:00:56.679 --> 00:00:58.799 kind of did a little bit. And let me just 19 00:00:58.840 --> 00:01:01.560 tell you, if they are coming to your city and 20 00:01:01.600 --> 00:01:04.519 you are in any way a fan, go go to 21 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:05.040 that show. 22 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:08.599 It was one of the best. Dude. I don't know 23 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:10.200 why I just called you dude, but I love that's what. 24 00:01:10.879 --> 00:01:12.719 That's what being around the sort of like white guys 25 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:15.079 in flannel with little beards does to me? 26 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:20.239 Bro, Bro, look at me. You want to go Yeah, Bro, I. 27 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:21.799 Mean I'm seriously one of the best shows I've seen 28 00:01:21.799 --> 00:01:23.200 in a long time, you know, ago, I go to 29 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:26.760 a lot of shows, and I mean this was just 30 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:30.799 like this was like religious, like this was like holy shit. 31 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:32.239 Like a spiritual experience. 32 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:35.079 Yes, as the only that's the only time I've ever 33 00:01:35.239 --> 00:01:38.319 moved to a spiritual experiences through music. But it doesn't 34 00:01:38.359 --> 00:01:40.000 always happen. It didn't happen when you and I went 35 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:42.400 to Barny Good Ladies the last time. 36 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:43.040 It didn't. 37 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:45.000 You know, I didn't get I didn't get called. I 38 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:47.719 didn't get the calling. This when I got the calling, 39 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:50.079 I got it, okay. 40 00:01:50.359 --> 00:01:52.719 And do you know a lot of death cab for 41 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:54.719 Cutie songs? Oh yeah, oh yeah. 42 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:58.000 And not only that, I prepared myself because they're touring 43 00:01:58.079 --> 00:02:00.200 for this new album that they have that just came out, 44 00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:02.760 and usually that's kind of rough because you're like waiting 45 00:02:02.799 --> 00:02:05.200 for the old songs. And I just sat down and 46 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:07.879 listened to it twice like a crazy I don't really 47 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:09.199 have that much going on, so I just put on 48 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:11.280 my headphones while I was do another stuff, and I 49 00:02:11.360 --> 00:02:14.240 listened two full times to the new album, and I 50 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:17.120 think it's so good. So every time they played a 51 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:19.840 new song, I was just so Overjoe. They opened with 52 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:21.560 one of the new songs and I just like lost 53 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:23.159 my mind. I was really into it. 54 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:26.319 It's really good. I swear you would love it. 55 00:02:26.439 --> 00:02:30.240 I believe you. You know, I want to tell you 56 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:32.520 really quick that. So I just got back from a 57 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:36.719 trip back East and when I was on the PO, 58 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:40.719 I downloaded some stuff to watch on TV, like basically, 59 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:43.960 and I couldn't really there wasn't like a lot that 60 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:48.919 I thought of to watch. So I downloaded the documentary 61 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:54.479 about Noah Cohen, Noah Con Noah Con Love Noah Con 62 00:02:54.680 --> 00:02:57.400 And I know you went to go see him in concert. 63 00:02:57.719 --> 00:02:58.680 I did. He's great. 64 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:01.000 It was a very different experience because I was for 65 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:03.080 that one, I was like back row, bench seats, and 66 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:06.800 for Death Cab, I was like second row. Oh yeah, 67 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:09.159 so that does make a difference. But Noah was He's 68 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:09.840 pretty awesome. 69 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:10.199 I think. 70 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:13.280 So when I saw the documentary and you and I 71 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:15.240 talked about him, and we talked about the fact that 72 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:16.680 you were going to see him, or that you went 73 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:17.520 to see him, and. 74 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:20.400 I think I put out there. I was like, yeah, 75 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:23.800 I heard he's kind of a dick, which I'm so wrong. 76 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:26.759 Like I watched the documentary and I'm. 77 00:03:26.639 --> 00:03:30.199 Like, he is so great. He's really great great. He 78 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:33.680 talks a lot about like mental health stuff. He got 79 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:38.919 famous very quickly, and he's so like you would love 80 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:41.879 this documentary because he talks a lot about how like 81 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:46.319 this for his album, the first album came out, I 82 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:48.879 think it was kind of his first thing came out 83 00:03:48.960 --> 00:03:55.639 during the Sticks. Yeah, and anyway, but he that album 84 00:03:55.719 --> 00:03:58.280 did like so well, he got like really famous and 85 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:00.919 all this this huge following and then and he had 86 00:04:01.039 --> 00:04:03.479 kind of a meltdown about like how am I going 87 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:06.840 to do another thing? Like what what the like, he 88 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:09.840 couldn't write. He just got like very depressed and he 89 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:13.520 felt really pressured and like and he has he has 90 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:17.480 like body dysmorphia, which yeah, is going to lead us 91 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:18.879 into our topic today. 92 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:20.959 But he was like really honest about it. 93 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:23.000 He's you know, kind of like people don't really talk 94 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:26.000 about this, but you know, you know he feels fat 95 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:28.399 and like right. 96 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:30.399 And he's like and people tear him apart. 97 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:33.199 And I love his religious story that he's half Jewish 98 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:36.839 half Muslim. I think that's really interesting and cool, and 99 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:39.040 he talks about it. I think that, you know, he's 100 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:43.839 like really like he's so thoughtful, very thoughtful, and his parents. 101 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:48.439 He really talks about sobriety and and his anxiety, and I. 102 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:51.279 Mean, yeah, he's pretty I don't think he's sober. 103 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:53.360 He might not be sober, but he sings a lot 104 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:57.120 about like he has an entire song about Xanax. He 105 00:04:57.199 --> 00:05:01.800 does okay, like he does talk about like his his 106 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:05.279 stuff and maybe maybe drinking too much or not drinking 107 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:07.680 whatever it is. I don't know if he's actually sober, 108 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:10.199 but he does not drink if you're like not drinking enough. 109 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:11.920 You know, he talks about how he was just really 110 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:14.439 is trying to drink more alcohol. 111 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:17.399 And so one and done, one and done, and everybody 112 00:05:17.439 --> 00:05:17.959 hates me. 113 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:21.040 By the way, last night though I was not one 114 00:05:21.079 --> 00:05:23.519 and done. I had my you know, the Marguerite is 115 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:25.160 at the Greek You might not know this, but they're 116 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:27.480 very tiny. They're just the tiniest little things for so 117 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:30.120 they're so expensive and it's like two golds. 118 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:32.920 And my friend that I went with usually we both. 119 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:34.319 Have at least two, but he had gone to a 120 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:36.639 concert the night before so he was a little wrecked, 121 00:05:37.160 --> 00:05:37.959 and I was like. 122 00:05:37.920 --> 00:05:39.680 Well, I'm ready to go. I haven't seen a single 123 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:41.079 human being in a week. Let's go. 124 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:44.319 I need to go out. Mama needs to shake it off. 125 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:46.519 I had my one little drink and then I had 126 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:48.839 a second. I really didn't feel it. This was over 127 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:52.560 five hour, four hours early. As you know, he likes 128 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:54.680 that too, and we want to have a little picnic. 129 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:57.680 So by the time I was sort of like in 130 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:00.439 between the opening and the and death cat, I was. 131 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:02.959 Like, I want a third one, but if you one, 132 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:04.920 so maybe I should. 133 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:05.480 Uh. 134 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:08.160 I didn't, so I didn't because of the company. But 135 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:10.199 had I been with someone else that was having another one, 136 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:11.040 I would have. 137 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:13.439 Do I need to look at that? Oh? 138 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:16.920 This becomes three drinks over and seeing it At first 139 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:17.439 I was joking. 140 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:22.240 Then I'm like, wait a minute, no, that's crazy, not 141 00:06:22.360 --> 00:06:25.519 that crazy. Three is a lot for a woman my age, 142 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:28.600 but just as a little lady. I am a little 143 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:30.639 lady and I shouldn't be. But it was one of 144 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:33.480 those things. I was like, they're so small. They don't really. 145 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:36.160 Cows small there, you know, because that's how they get you. 146 00:06:37.040 --> 00:06:39.319 I know, they just give you a few drops yes, 147 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:41.240 and then they're like, of course you're going to want 148 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:43.000 another one, and of course you're going to feel like 149 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:46.480 an alcoholic, right, But I didn't. 150 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:49.680 And anyway, let's get to let's get to our thing. 151 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:52.279 I'm glad that you brought us into it. We are 152 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:55.800 talking about Ariana Grande today, and we should give you 153 00:06:55.879 --> 00:06:59.519 a trigger warning that you know, we are going to 154 00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:01.680 talk about some serious stuff that part isn't. 155 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:03.879 Or we should just give you a heads up that 156 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:04.759 we are. Don't worry. 157 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:07.920 We're not going to like tear her apart like we 158 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:10.519 would never We're not putting her down. We are just 159 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:13.680 talking about what people are talking about. Yeah, is that 160 00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:16.199 a fair way to say it? I think I think 161 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:18.040 we're of course not putting her down. 162 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:20.560 We're just talking about the fact that, like this is 163 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:22.680 a serious subject and it's crazy. 164 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:24.439 It's crazy to us. 165 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:26.079 And then here we are, we're going to do it 166 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:31.399 that people care about other people's like bodies. But at 167 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:35.800 the same time, like we should be able to discuss 168 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:39.439 the fact that when somebody seems like it's not going great, 169 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:44.360 we also shouldn't have to not talk about that because 170 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:45.040 of some. 171 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:50.240 Like right body image thing where we're not try. It's 172 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:52.120 a it's a slippery. 173 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:54.240 It's a fine line because we don't you don't want 174 00:07:54.279 --> 00:07:57.800 to comment on people's bodies because and we try to 175 00:07:57.839 --> 00:07:59.720 steer clear of that, no matter who it is we're 176 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:02.079 talking about, even if we don't like them, you know, 177 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:05.319 we don't do that. But when it becomes like maybe 178 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:08.600 that person's in danger and or and in this case, 179 00:08:08.680 --> 00:08:10.800 is how I feel. When this person is a role 180 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:16.160 model to so many young girls, it is dangerous. Yes, 181 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:19.439 if they're dysmorphia or whatever it is, we're calling it 182 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:21.199 DYSMORPHI I don't know what it is. She may not 183 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:24.360 have dysmorphia, but whatever's going on there, I think it's 184 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:26.839 important to talk about it. No, it's none of our business, 185 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:29.800 but then again, it's not her business how we feel 186 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:31.480 about it or what we think. 187 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:33.919 You know, I do know. 188 00:08:34.159 --> 00:08:36.039 I think I know you're saying, let's just let's get 189 00:08:36.039 --> 00:08:39.279 into the story and then we can decide like what 190 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:39.679 we want. 191 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:41.159 Oh, I mean I have I'm not going to step 192 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:42.919 back from what I want to say because I was 193 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:45.960 thinking back to when let's say I was twelve. I 194 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:49.440 happened to be in the eighties at that time, right 195 00:08:49.559 --> 00:08:50.840 like mid eighties. 196 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:51.600 It just happened. 197 00:08:51.799 --> 00:08:54.080 So it's just the way I think shook out. 198 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:57.480 I stumbled in, and I think I got really lucky 199 00:08:57.639 --> 00:08:59.960 even though I had my own even sorts were both 200 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:01.159 going to talk about ours. 201 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:02.279 But like, I got. 202 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:04.799 Lucky because the role models were back in the eighties, 203 00:09:04.840 --> 00:09:09.279 the supermodels were like larger than they are now then, 204 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:10.639 or than they were in the nineties. 205 00:09:10.720 --> 00:09:13.080 Remember it was like you. I mean, of course they 206 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:14.440 were perfect and beautiful, but. 207 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:16.960 They were more like size eights and tens than they 208 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:17.919 were like zeros. 209 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:18.639 Oh, Seattle. 210 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:22.759 Maybe just because I was a little before you a 211 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:23.360 few years. 212 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:23.879 I don't know. 213 00:09:23.919 --> 00:09:27.120 When I was in high school, being pretty stick skinny 214 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:30.600 was the look, and I would have not that I 215 00:09:30.639 --> 00:09:34.759 had a bud in boombs in high school. I graduated 216 00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:38.840 in eighty four, so I would say, like eighty to 217 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:43.440 eighty four. Yeah, the eighties was when I was in 218 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:48.519 middle school, also already worried about my body and already dieting. 219 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:52.080 Oh yeah, I mean I think that that's but like 220 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:54.279 in the seventies, let's say, if you when you're in 221 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:57.600 junior high a little earlier, like that's your twiggies and 222 00:09:57.799 --> 00:09:59.519 that you know, you still had I think a really 223 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:02.120 thin thing. And I think something shifted at some point, 224 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:03.679 and I think it does. I mean, and then it 225 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:08.440 shifted back in the nineties with you know, heroin Chic, right, 226 00:10:08.519 --> 00:10:10.120 and this is and now we're at a place, so 227 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:11.120 we'll tell you what's going on. 228 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:12.840 I'm sure we sure, for sure, you know. 229 00:10:12.840 --> 00:10:15.600 But Ariana Grande, this is from People magazine is taking 230 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:21.399 a step back from visibility after tour as public scrutiny intensifies. 231 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:24.919 So that is this article on People. And so she 232 00:10:25.240 --> 00:10:28.440 is on a tour right now that she's finishing. I 233 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:30.480 thought she was finishing. Then she was supposed to go 234 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:35.000 to London and do a Sondheim musical, which people are 235 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:38.000 really excited about, and she said no, And I think 236 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:40.440 she should have said no anyway, whether this other like 237 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:42.480 weight scrutiny was going on either. I think she's just 238 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:46.279 absolutely exhausted. You can't, no human being can go at 239 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:47.240 the rate that she's going. 240 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:50.840 But let me let me say this even before we 241 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:54.320 get into more of the story, Like, I am shocked 242 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:57.600 that this is just now getting talked about because when 243 00:10:57.639 --> 00:10:59.960 she was doing Wicked, when Wicked was out, she was 244 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:03.000 doing promotional stuff. I remember thinking like, oh my god, 245 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:07.440 she's so sickly looking. She's so skinny. I mean she 246 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:09.000 looked like a skeleton. 247 00:11:08.600 --> 00:11:12.000 Then, and now it's like, are people just now waking 248 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:12.519 up to that. 249 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.120 No, people were the Wicked people, the people that were 250 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:20.279 like obsessed with the movie got so weirdly protective as 251 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:23.120 they continue to be like you can't. It's like the 252 00:11:23.159 --> 00:11:25.159 thing we talked about with like Lady Gaga or certain 253 00:11:25.159 --> 00:11:27.840 fans like you just couldn't, Like you come for Wicked, 254 00:11:27.840 --> 00:11:31.159 You're coming for every theater kid, They're gonna they'll destroy you. 255 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:33.559 But that's what I don't understand is like how it 256 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:36.480 how it is coming for somebody when you're like, oh 257 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:39.600 my god, she doesn't look well, she like you look 258 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:43.759 her wrists are so teeny tiny, her arms were so small, 259 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:45.240 her shoulders. 260 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:46.639 Like in all the bones. 261 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:47.480 It was so scary. 262 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:50.440 Yeah, I know, it's no, it's way. 263 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:53.519 I think now the reason it's coming to light finally 264 00:11:53.679 --> 00:11:56.600 is because I maybe the Wicked you don't have the 265 00:11:56.600 --> 00:11:58.759 pr teams protecting. 266 00:11:58.240 --> 00:11:59.919 Her in the same way that we had on Wicked, 267 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:03.480 and she got smaller. So now people you just can't. 268 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:07.039 So okay, So she had her eternal sunshine tour that 269 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:10.240 wraps in London September. First, you know that she's only 270 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:13.519 thirty three years old. My goodness, I didn't know she was. Wow, 271 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:17.759 she's lived, she's has a lot of loves. Well, she's 272 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:20.480 been around for so long. She's like, you know, she 273 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:23.480 was just a child star. She came from that old 274 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:27.519 and so she's stepping away a miskip all that. So, 275 00:12:27.559 --> 00:12:30.399 a spokesperson for her tells people she will be taking 276 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:33.240 a step back from visibility after she completes the tour. 277 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:35.720 She's looking forward to finishing the tour and ending it 278 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:39.320 on a high note, both healthily and happily, and then 279 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:43.279 taking a much deserved break from public facing work and appearances, 280 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:47.159 which has led to endless ongoing public scrutiny. There has 281 00:12:47.159 --> 00:12:49.480 been a beautiful experience for her. She loves her fans 282 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:54.120 and has loved every minute. Okay, that's fine. So somebody 283 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:55.919 I'd said something to somebody and they were like, yeah, 284 00:12:55.960 --> 00:12:58.600 her show is so physical, like she's always she's doing 285 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:03.120 like pink moves, Like it's very athletic her show, running 286 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:05.840 around and stuff. It's like, okay, well, how is that 287 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:10.240 an excuse? I mean, okay, well he will no longer be. 288 00:13:10.360 --> 00:13:12.559 Pink is not stick skinny, So I don't know how 289 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:14.799 that's like, how that has anything to do with anything. 290 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:17.519 Yeah, and I'm not even like she's working as hard 291 00:13:17.559 --> 00:13:18.080 as Pink. 292 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:22.759 Okay, well Pink looks totally normal, so uh, you know, right, 293 00:13:23.720 --> 00:13:25.679 so she was already looking like that. 294 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:28.080 When she did when she did Wicked. So I just 295 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:31.960 don't you know, And why are we making excuses? Why? 296 00:13:32.159 --> 00:13:35.799 Like this is what's so annoying? Is like, let's why 297 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:38.320 can't she just say yes, I'm struggling. 298 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:42.639 Well, this is what's happening. So she Okay, So she 299 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:44.919 has a music video that came out. This is when 300 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:49.120 people really started talking called for her latest single called Pedal, right, 301 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:51.960 and this is where people are like, oh my god, 302 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:53.440 and I felt. 303 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:56.600 The same way. I can't tell anymore. What's ai though, 304 00:13:56.639 --> 00:13:58.960 and what's real? Are you having this issue with her too? 305 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:02.399 Because like people will post a very disturbing photo that 306 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:05.879 it's like, well, there's no freaking way that's real. There's 307 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:07.919 no way that that many bones or so I think 308 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:10.519 some people are aieing it a little to make it 309 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:13.720 even worse. To be fair, I do think there's an 310 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:16.039 issue here, but I'm just saying I can't tell what 311 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:19.279 photos are real and what's not, you know, because the 312 00:14:19.320 --> 00:14:22.279 PR people are sending People Magazine photos where she looks then, 313 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:25.159 but it's not like as you know whatever. So she 314 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:29.200 has hit back at commentary surrounding her body on various occasions, 315 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:32.000 and one of them is this is a while back. 316 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:35.559 In her song Yes and for twenty twenty four album, 317 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:37.120 which is what she's I guess on two or four 318 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:40.399 Eternal Sunshine, she sings at one point, my face is sitting. 319 00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:42.759 I don't need no disguise. I don't have to talk 320 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:43.639 like that either, though. 321 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:47.159 Don't comment on my body, Do not reply. Your business 322 00:14:47.240 --> 00:14:49.559 is yours and mine is mine. So she's well aware 323 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:55.279 for quite some time. And then as for her new album, Pedal, 324 00:14:55.919 --> 00:14:58.320 the Insider says, this album is a fight song and 325 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:01.000 anthem about the love hate relationtionship with the public and 326 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:04.639 their toxicity. This album is not about a romantic partner 327 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:05.679 or a breakup in any way. 328 00:15:06.039 --> 00:15:06.360 Okay. 329 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:09.559 I mean it goes on and on, but we are 330 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:11.600 we know the gist of it. And then the story 331 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:13.799 that they have in People Magazine. There's a photo and 332 00:15:14.080 --> 00:15:19.399 I mean, my god, it's it's disturbing to say the 333 00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:21.679 least in my opinion. 334 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:25.159 Right, and there's been some commentary around the fact that 335 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:30.240 like we haven't come that far since Karen Carpenter died 336 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:34.879 of anorexia at also a young age, and you know, 337 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:39.879 like people are starting to go like, hey, we're we 338 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:42.120 should be allowed to talk about this and discuss it. 339 00:15:42.840 --> 00:15:44.320 So that's that's right, I mean. 340 00:15:44.360 --> 00:15:46.799 And then Kelly, the same thing happened with Kelly Osbourne 341 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:49.240 where I think that was really sad. I think I 342 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:51.879 think that was a situation where she seemed like she 343 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:54.799 had gone on something to lose. I didn't like it 344 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:58.559 yet and it wasn't you know, it was too much 345 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:00.720 whatever happened there and then and she kept saying, no, 346 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:03.679 it's the grief of losing my dad, which we all understand, 347 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:06.360 like nobody was. I think that's what people don't understand, 348 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:09.000 Like nobody's mocking your grief. 349 00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:12.960 And that's just not true that that's what it was. Like, 350 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:15.720 that's just not true because her mom they both went 351 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:18.600 on it, and she has struggled with like her weight 352 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:20.639 or whatever, you know, she feels. 353 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:23.720 Like she has. So that's just see that that's fucked up. 354 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:24.480 But I'm gonna just. 355 00:16:24.440 --> 00:16:26.039 Say that I think it's fucked. 356 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:26.399 Up to go. 357 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:30.159 No, no, no, I'm not too exactly. It's like, no, 358 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:33.000 I feel great. I feel really great about how I look. 359 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:36.919 And you know what's her name? The mom, you know 360 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:37.919 what's her Saren? 361 00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:42.080 Sharon Osborne was like also going like, oh my god, yes, 362 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:44.759 so so you know, I do think I got like 363 00:16:44.840 --> 00:16:47.960 a little bit too skinny, but like I feel like fantastic, 364 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:50.919 and yeah I went on this and and I'm just 365 00:16:51.039 --> 00:16:54.519 naturally like that's just that's it. She tried to make 366 00:16:54.559 --> 00:16:57.480 it seem like it was just really natural. 367 00:16:57.159 --> 00:16:59.519 That she just happened Triana. It kind of is. 368 00:16:59.559 --> 00:17:02.200 Although, so I looked back at her younger years and 369 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:04.240 she had more you know, we were all had little 370 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:07.640 like babyfaces, right, so she had more body weight on 371 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:10.200 her when she was like sixteen to twenty five, you 372 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:12.920 know whatever, like we all did. I look back, I'm 373 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:15.000 so surprised at my twenty five year old self, Like 374 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:16.599 it just your body does. 375 00:17:16.440 --> 00:17:17.359 Change a little bit. 376 00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:20.000 But to be fair, Arianna and Kelly are different because 377 00:17:20.039 --> 00:17:23.440 she's really tiny anyway, Like she's a very small boned 378 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:27.559 Ariana Grande. So there's a fine line. But what people 379 00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:30.119 are talking about in the reddit is what I find 380 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:33.160 more interesting. They're talking specifically about this music video, which 381 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:36.960 is what's gotten people finally talking okay, And some people 382 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:42.319 are saying that that she's playing up her for lack 383 00:17:42.359 --> 00:17:44.440 of a better word, I'm gonna call it anarexia, but 384 00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:48.799 I am not. I'm not doctor Phil. What if I'm 385 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:52.079 not a middle doctor? I mean I am. I have 386 00:17:52.119 --> 00:17:54.519 a sexy mustache. I'm not doctor Phil. 387 00:17:54.599 --> 00:18:03.079 I don't have the ability to, like, you know, do surgery. 388 00:17:59.720 --> 00:18:06.000 Sir, do surgery, heart surgery, rain otherwise, but I mean, okay, 389 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:07.039 for her eating disorder. 390 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:08.960 Some people are saying she's playing it up. 391 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:11.559 So somebody wrote the worst part of the video is 392 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:14.200 when she tries to act all cute and sexy and 393 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:16.960 she's so skeletal, but it comes off extremely off putting 394 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:19.759 and bizarre. The whole video is quite something, to be fair, 395 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:22.960 I haven't even I can't watch it. I've only seen stills. 396 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:25.839 You can't watch it, like you can't stop it watch it, 397 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:27.400 or you don't have access to it. 398 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:30.119 Oh, I can watch it. I have Wi Fi. 399 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:33.680 I just I just don't want to seah, And let 400 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:35.920 me ask you this though, Okay, here's an interesting question. 401 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:38.200