WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:05.040 You see, something's going to happen. 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.599 What What's gonna happen? 3 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:25.399 What I help? On a Thursday night, we got a 4 00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:28.320 party going on over here, the col rejects, we got 5 00:00:28.320 --> 00:00:31.760 a bunch of people. We got the mad Scientists herself, Lisa. 6 00:00:32.520 --> 00:00:36.000 We got my favorite garbage can't do jj Vance, we 7 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:39.520 got my boy Thrash. We got the spiritual gangster herself, 8 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:44.359 the Catholic slash gnastic Teresa. 9 00:00:43.079 --> 00:00:45.119 And we also got uh. 10 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:48.119 We got my boy magic Mike, you know, we can't 11 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:51.200 forget him. And we got the one and only headless 12 00:00:51.439 --> 00:00:54.119 giant with us. I'm not gonna have all of them 13 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:56.759 introduced themselves because there is way too many people here. 14 00:00:57.039 --> 00:00:58.479 If you want to get in touch with them or 15 00:00:58.479 --> 00:01:00.399 find their stuff, I'm sure their links are in the bottom. 16 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:03.640 If not, I will edit after the fact. But tonight 17 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:07.799 we do have back Julia from Cosmic Peach podcast. We're 18 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:11.760 doing part two to Program to Kill just due to 19 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:14.959 how it went last week. I'm taking this down probably 20 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:17.640 after the live so if you're catching it now, good 21 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:19.719 for you. I may not be up too long after 22 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:22.560 the fact. Yes, we got to strike last week, so 23 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:23.920 we don't want that to happen. 24 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:24.200 Again. 25 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:27.159 But Julia, thank you so much for coming back. We 26 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:27.640 had a. 27 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:30.400 Blest on the first episode. You know, we really had 28 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:32.159 a good time and just a lot of a lot 29 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:35.439 of stuff and a short amount of time and just 30 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:36.640 you know, I'd be totally honest. 31 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:37.920 It's even on your own series. 32 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:40.519 I think it's packed with information and packed with stuff, 33 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:42.920 so you alone, you know, I thought it was just great, 34 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:45.760 but you know, bringing it to the occult rejs, you know. 35 00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:47.519 It was it was awesome to have you have all 36 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:49.560 of us get in on it. But yeah, for real, 37 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:50.480 it was a great time. 38 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:51.799 I had time. 39 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:53.040 Hell yeah, hell yeah yeah. 40 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:55.359 And for real, for people who you know, may not 41 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:58.959 have heard it, go check out her program to Kill series. 42 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:03.159 It's definitely definitely very packed with information. I mean it'll 43 00:02:03.200 --> 00:02:05.120 even be making a laugh in some ways. I mean 44 00:02:05.159 --> 00:02:07.239 she had me cracking up on episode two, but it 45 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:09.560 was it was actually a lot of info and it 46 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:11.639 will say, the music in the background is very well done. 47 00:02:11.639 --> 00:02:14.960 I was impressed. So yeah, I was like, wow, this 48 00:02:15.039 --> 00:02:15.639 is pretty cool. 49 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:19.479 Yeah yeah, so go check out the show. It's it's 50 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:23.039 impressive stuff. But again, just in case all the new 51 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:24.800 you know, the new listeners or whatever may not know 52 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:26.879 who you are, Julie, I kind of give people an 53 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:29.000 idea about like what you do your podcast and where 54 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:30.280 they can find all your amazing work. 55 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:30.599 Please. 56 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:33.879 Yeah, thanks so much. So, like you said, I have 57 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:36.680 Cosmic Peach podcasts. You could probably just throw it up 58 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:41.199 into Google and find it somewhere where you listen to podcasts, Spotify, Apple, wherever. 59 00:02:41.759 --> 00:02:44.400 I don't have YouTube because it's like you said earlier, 60 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:47.680 fuck them and they're always taking down my good shit. 61 00:02:48.879 --> 00:02:50.680 And I just kind of like when I when I 62 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:52.759 get to start recording something, I don't want to have 63 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:56.439 to censor myself or leave very important information out. So 64 00:02:56.960 --> 00:03:00.080 I just took myself off YouTube eventually because I just 65 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:02.120 wanted to be able to record and say the things 66 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:05.919 that I wanted to say. And luckily Apple and Spotify, 67 00:03:06.400 --> 00:03:11.120 maybe you know they're they're less censored, I guess. But 68 00:03:11.800 --> 00:03:16.360 I haven't gotten penalized or anything for posting shit over there. 69 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:19.599 So and I do have a Patreon for bonus content 70 00:03:19.639 --> 00:03:24.080 and early access for all my episodes and stuff. And 71 00:03:25.319 --> 00:03:29.479 I actually just did a bonus episode with Colby from 72 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:33.840 Conspiracy Playtime Time about Jeffrey Dahmer, and that's actually a 73 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:36.960 really good episode. I'm going to touch on a few 74 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:39.599 of the things that we covered in that episode today, 75 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:42.479 so I'm really excited. But yeah, that's where you can 76 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:46.240 find me. And we were kind of talking before we 77 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:49.000 started recording, but I think the last time we all 78 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:51.960 got together was banging. It was it was, you know, 79 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:56.840 a group effort and everybody was kind of contributing shit, 80 00:03:57.080 --> 00:04:00.319 and I loved it. 81 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:02.039 It was a lot of fun. And I'm expecting this 82 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:04.919 one will be good. And I'm sure you know, sneak peek, 83 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:06.520 I am hoping to make it work that her and 84 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:09.439 Kolbe will be coming back on hoping with this whole 85 00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:11.919 crew too if they want to cover Layl canyons. So 86 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:15.800 I'm expecting that to be exciting and fun and informational. 87 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:18.920 Oh but yeah, thank you very much. Again, I did. 88 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:23.199 Roped that too, you know. The I don't know if 89 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:25.839 I mentioned maybe I did, but the Laurel Canyon Book 90 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:28.439 and Program to Kill are written by the same guy, 91 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:31.439 Dave McGowan. So I mean, if you love one, you're 92 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:34.639 gonna love the other as well, because it's just super 93 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:38.560 well done research and shit that nobody really talks about. 94 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:41.199 I mean, I guess people talk about Laurel Canyon stuff 95 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:45.079 more now than they used to. But I mean really 96 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:47.759 people just focus on like Jim Morrison and shit like 97 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:50.560 like that. That's the big one person they know that 98 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:52.600 has like CIA connections. 99 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:54.879 Nice. 100 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:57.240 You know one thing you said before too, which is 101 00:04:57.360 --> 00:04:59.639 you know, I I'm glad that you say that that 102 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:01.160 you know you don't mess with YouTube because you're not 103 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:04.600 going to censor yourself. So unfortunate that that episode, you know, 104 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:06.560 this isn't going to drop on YouTube because I'm not 105 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:08.519 going to edit it, you know what I'm saying, so 106 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:10.920 like I'm still dropping it. It's just it's unfortunate that, 107 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:12.399 you know, YouTube is like that I'm not going to 108 00:05:12.439 --> 00:05:13.319 be able to put it on there. 109 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:14.920 But good for you. I'm glad you don't. 110 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:17.560 You know, you don't sensor your stuff due to a platform, 111 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:18.560 because some people will do that. 112 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:19.759 I don't think it's worth it. 113 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:23.079 Yeah, yeah, it's just it's not worth it to me. 114 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:27.399 And you know, the program to Kill series that's available 115 00:05:27.439 --> 00:05:30.720 on my show is just part of like several mini 116 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:33.639 series I did. The first one was called The Pedophocracy 117 00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:37.040 and then the second one was called Uncle Sam Wants 118 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:39.839 Your Children. YouTube would have probably taken that down just 119 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:43.920 by the fucking name of it. And then the third 120 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:46.319 one was Programmed to Kill. And the very last series 121 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:49.040 that I did with Colby is called Blood Ties, and 122 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:52.920 it's all about, uh, like the Superstars as they call them, 123 00:05:52.959 --> 00:05:57.959 Ted Bundy and John Wayne Gacy and Jeffrey Dahmer and 124 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:01.079 those are the serial killers that they referred to as 125 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:05.800 the Superstars. But in Program to Kill, I kind of 126 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:08.600 touched on some serial killers that have kind of gone 127 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:11.120 under the radar, and actually some of them I don't 128 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:13.160 even I think they just got like a bunch of 129 00:06:13.160 --> 00:06:15.519 shit pinned on them that they didn't even really do. 130 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:19.360 So it's it's crazy to me. And it's if you 131 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:23.040 look at how some of these serial killers are operating, 132 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:28.800 it's just like the fucking CIA, fucking Weapons of Opportunity, 133 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:35.480 fucking you know what I'm saying. They're literally following a program. 134 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:39.839 And it's it's like Henry Lee Lucas. Did we talk 135 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:42.240 about him in the last episode? I forget. I think 136 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:44.199 we might have briefly touched on him. 137 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:45.560 We brought him up, we brought it. 138 00:06:47.720 --> 00:06:50.439 So are you guys familiar with this This guy? He's 139 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:53.759 got like periodontal disease and shit, he's got like one 140 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:57.160 straight tooth in the frost. Seen this guy. 141 00:06:57.800 --> 00:06:59.600 I love how that becomes a fact one of his 142 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:09.240 like you know facts reesa. 143 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:12.920 Oh my god, dude, do share screen right now. I'd 144 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:15.079 pull up a picture of him because it's just like 145 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:17.079 one long tooth and the freezing. 146 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:19.600 Is there a thing with like mk ultra people like 147 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:22.920 being twisted because like it was it was an mk 148 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:25.199 ultra doctor thrash, wasn't it. 149 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:25.560 They didn't. 150 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:27.079 One of the guys we cover had like a bum 151 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:29.319 leg or a bum arm, and another guy had to screwed. 152 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:31.360 Up legs something. It's like, what's up with everybody being 153 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:32.439 deformed and screwed up? 154 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:34.399 Yeah? 155 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:35.720 Deformed? 156 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:42.160 I think Alan Dolas had a bum leg and uh. 157 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:43.600 There was somebody who worked with him that I think 158 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:44.399 had screw. 159 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:47.399 Got what's his name? 160 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:47.959 Got leave? 161 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:50.759 Got Leave? Yeah, I got Leaven. 162 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:55.759 That's how they bonded because they both had like like screw. 163 00:07:55.600 --> 00:08:02.800 Up both like they had they looked like Lieutenant Dan 164 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:12.160 or what I'm serious? They had nuts. Shit, I mean 165 00:08:12.199 --> 00:08:13.480 not all of them are deformed. 166 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:13.720 You know. 167 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:15.800 Some people like to say, like Ted Bundy was a 168 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:18.879 good looking guy. I mean so it's like they don't 169 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:21.839 really care what you look like or obviously, because Henry 170 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:24.319 Lee Lucas looks like a straight up crackhead. 171 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:26.000 But he. 172 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:31.959 Got a Netflix series dedicated to him, called The Confession Killer, 173 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:35.399 and that's the first time that I had ever heard 174 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:38.559 of him is because it was real sensationalized and everyone 175 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:41.919 everyone was posting like reels and shit on Instagram about 176 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:45.440 all the Confession Killer, and essentially they kind of made 177 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:48.320 fun of him, like if we got him a chicken 178 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:51.639 nugget meal and a strawberry shake, he would just start 179 00:08:51.879 --> 00:08:56.200 confessing to any any open case, cold case file that 180 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:58.279 they would put in front of him. And by the 181 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:00.759 end of it, I think they said he killed like, 182 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:03.240 I don't know, one hundred and twenty seven to two 183 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:07.080 hundred people, and some of it didn't even make sense 184 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:09.080 because he would have had it been in two places 185 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:13.240 at one time. But what struck me as interesting is 186 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:17.799 he knew intimate details about the crime scenes that in 187 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:21.039 the murders that he was confessing to that he shouldn't know. 188 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:25.399 That was never mainstream knowledge. So let's say he didn't 189 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:28.879 do these murders, but he was getting convicted for them anyways, 190 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:32.720 because he's confessing to them. Somebody is feeding him information. 191 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:36.759 Somebody is telling him information about these crime scenes that 192 00:09:36.840 --> 00:09:40.799 he couldn't possibly know, So when he confesses, it almost 193 00:09:40.840 --> 00:09:44.039 sounds like it's probable that he could have done it, 194 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:47.919 because how else would he know that. And then later 195 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:51.000 on in life, he writes a book called The Hand 196 00:09:51.039 --> 00:09:53.600 of Death Cult or something like that, or maybe it's 197 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:56.799 called just called the Hand of Death, and he's talking 198 00:09:56.840 --> 00:10:02.879 about like getting recruited by secret military type I don't know. 199 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:06.720 It's like a program and they're training serial killers and 200 00:10:06.799 --> 00:10:11.600 he talks about this. He talks about some kind of 201 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:14.279 Hand of Death cult that was in charge of this shit. 202 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:18.639 And you know, his mom used to dress him up 203 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:21.600 like a girl when he was a kid, And it 204 00:10:21.720 --> 00:10:24.759 ends up being like kind of multi generational with him 205 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:28.320 and his killing partner, Otis Tool. They both kind of 206 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:33.000 had like multi generational trauma in their family of like 207 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:37.240 dressing the boys up like girls. And I think one 208 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:40.559 of their grandmas was like a Satanist or something like that, 209 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:45.320 either Otis or Henry, I can't remember now. But they 210 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:51.120 always killed with weapons of opportunity, just like the CIA 211 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:54.879 handout sheet would tell you to do it was never 212 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:57.440 the same way. It wasn't like it wasn't like Ted 213 00:10:57.480 --> 00:11:01.360 Bundy where they were always strangled and bludgeoned, or you know, 214 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:05.159 Jeff Dahmer, he fucking make pull pork sandwiches out of everybody. 215 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:09.360 It was different every single time. Some would be stabbing, 216 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:12.480 some would be shooting, some would get smothered, some would 217 00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:17.919 get decapitated. Like, it was never the same. And if 218 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:21.879 you start looking at people like Richard Ramirez who also 219 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:27.480 killed with weapons of opportunity, it's just starts to kind 220 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:29.320 of make a little bit more sense. It's like you 221 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:35.559 always say, Nick, you can't separate governmental programs and ritualistic programs. 222 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:38.320 I think they're one and the same. And so when 223 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:41.240 you say something is like, oh, well they're programmed to kill, 224 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:44.480 they're part of like the CIA or something like that, 225 00:11:44.600 --> 00:11:47.919 and they're all Satanists, I think those two things can 226 00:11:47.960 --> 00:11:50.519 be synonymous. I don't know about you guys, So. 227 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:53.799 Well, if you think about it, all the professional killers 228 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:56.480 working for the government have to do some kind of 229 00:11:56.600 --> 00:11:59.840 ritual to get into that mindset in the first place. 230 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:03.360 You know, the idea that there would be ritual killers 231 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:06.840 out there sort of doing the same thing whether or 232 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:09.840 not they're associated with the government, would definitely have that 233 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:10.960 same sort of process. 234 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:12.000 Mm hm. 235 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:14.919 This goes way back. I mean you you can look 236 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:18.480 back at the pottery from the Mycenee and Greeks and 237 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:22.440 you'll see, you know, as these two warriors are going out, 238 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:27.399 you've got these two messengers for the king behind them 239 00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:29.279 that nobody's allowed to touch. 240 00:12:29.960 --> 00:12:30.240 Right. 241 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:32.480 And so to me, the first thing that popped into 242 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:34.679 my head is like, are these guys all programmed to kill? 243 00:12:34.759 --> 00:12:38.000 Is this what's going on here? Maybe it's ever been 244 00:12:38.320 --> 00:12:40.200 what we think it is. Maybe it's always been this 245 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:42.000 sort of ritual human sacrifice. 246 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:46.720 Yeah, And I don't know if anybody else has anything 247 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:48.600 to add about that, but I think we could go 248 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:53.559 even to like one of my favorite occult serial killers, 249 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:56.639 who I think I know who it is, but that's 250 00:12:56.720 --> 00:12:59.480 up for debate, would be Jack the Ripper. I think 251 00:12:59.559 --> 00:13:04.279 he was also a part of an occult society. I've 252 00:13:04.279 --> 00:13:06.759 done a lot of research into it, and I'm pretty 253 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:12.639 sure that Helena Lavotsky was was best. He's with this guy. 254 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:15.879 He was a doctor and he was into all these 255 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:19.879 occult and they fucking had him as a consultant on 256 00:13:19.919 --> 00:13:22.720 the crime scenes. Dude, you know how serial killers have 257 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:23.200 to go back. 258 00:13:23.960 --> 00:13:27.039 This guy was the originally fauci kind of Yeah. 259 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:29.759 So this guy was in all these occult circles and 260 00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:33.759 one of his besties was Helena Blovotsky, and fucking nobody 261 00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:37.320 puts those two pieces together. Nobody puts those two pieces together. 262 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:41.720 His name was doctor Rick, doctor fucking foxtick. I don't 263 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:44.200 know what his last name was. It was something talking 264 00:13:44.200 --> 00:13:48.879 about Holmes, that guy. No, no, it's a weird last name. 265 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:53.480 They just found genetic analysis published in January of twenty 266 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:56.600 twenty five, which claims to have identified Jack the Ripper 267 00:13:56.639 --> 00:13:59.159 as Aaron Kosminsky. 268 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:04.000 I don't believe it, and I don't believe they're DNA 269 00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:07.360 testing either. They could fucking test some DNA. There is 270 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:10.360 no DNA from the They didn't collect any, and if 271 00:14:10.360 --> 00:14:12.840 they did, it's all fucking contaminated. And ship they were 272 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:15.519 the second they rolled up on a dead body, they 273 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:17.600 were all touching it and rolling it over and ship. 274 00:14:17.679 --> 00:14:20.360 There's no way that they can get good DNA from 275 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:24.399 from per victim. I will tell you though, I'm relentless, 276 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:27.360 and when I get to start researching something, somebody find 277 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:32.159 the name of that fucking doctor guy. 278 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:34.440 Yo, you know what I wanted to say real quick, 279 00:14:34.440 --> 00:14:36.240 and I didn't find out until like a week or 280 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:39.600 two ago, maybe the most you know, who else the 281 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:41.639 croley actually came out and said was Jack the Ripper? 282 00:14:42.639 --> 00:14:44.039 Helena? 283 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:45.600 Yeah, she was. 284 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:49.600 I think she was wind behind it. 285 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:52.879 I don't think she was strong enough to do it herself. 286 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:55.399 I think she had this this. I think his name 287 00:14:55.480 --> 00:14:58.759 was Dodgson or something. I could be wrong, but she 288 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:01.799 had this doctor guy doing it. And they said, whoever 289 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:03.600 is doing this is probably a doctor. 290 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:06.799 He said she was using it for a ritual to 291 00:15:06.960 --> 00:15:08.759 actually gain more like powers. 292 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:11.759 Yes, I know if you look at it, if you 293 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:13.960 look at some of the crime scene details or whatever. 294 00:15:14.279 --> 00:15:17.279 The victims were bled out first, and if anybody who 295 00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:20.120 is familiar with field dressing animals, that's exactly what you 296 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:24.240 do first, because you want a clean you know, landscape 297 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:28.240 or whatever to kind of know what you're collecting and 298 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:32.080 know what you're dissecting out. And then also when they 299 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:35.279 said that most of the stuff that was removed and 300 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:39.279 it wasn't the same organ every single victim. Some had heart, 301 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:43.120 some had an intestine, some had a liver, some had 302 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:46.679 a bladder. There was one where they removed the uterus 303 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:49.519 bladder vaginal canal. 304 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:51.919 Like, yes, see, what the fuck are they doing with that? 305 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:55.759 And then the other thing is, and Nick and I 306 00:15:55.840 --> 00:15:58.799 were talking about this, is that in almost all of 307 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:02.679 the victims, the intestine was draped over the right side, 308 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:04.440 and I was like, that means a guy was left 309 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:07.879 handed whoever was doing. Whenever you're field dressing, and anybody 310 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:10.799 chime in field dressing, if you're not hanging them upside 311 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:15.000 down to where all of the intestine or viscera falls down, 312 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:18.399 you have to kind of pull the actual intestine away 313 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:21.000 so that you can see what you're doing. Because the 314 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:23.759 moment that you nick the intestine, everything is damaged. You 315 00:16:23.799 --> 00:16:26.519 can't ever eat that meat or anything like that. So 316 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:28.679 you want to move that completely away so that it's 317 00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:31.200 not in the way of anything. Nick and I were 318 00:16:31.200 --> 00:16:35.399 talking about that. Definitely, it was probably either harvesting organs, 319 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:39.960 whether it's for ritual or for collecting of something or experiments, 320 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:41.399 because there was a lot. 321 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:43.200 Of rich people. 322 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:47.480 There was a lot well, if you look at the 323 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:51.039 victims where they were found and you connect them in 324 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:54.559 the order that they were killed, it makes a big 325 00:16:54.639 --> 00:16:58.519 pentagram so you tell me that it's just some random 326 00:16:58.559 --> 00:17:00.879 idiot out there just slash and dashing people. 327 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:01.600 They tried. 328 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:04.720 The Smithsonian came out with this article and they were 329 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:07.359 trying to pin it on this local butcher guy. And 330 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:09.240 it's like, oh, well, he lives so far away from 331 00:17:09.279 --> 00:17:12.880 the car. Fuck you and anything this Smithsonian puts out 332 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:16.240 I'm immediately skeptical of. And I think that it's all 333 00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:17.799 fucking fucked up narrative. 334 00:17:17.839 --> 00:17:20.839 Anyways, I agree, dude, fuck the Smithsonian. 335 00:17:21.039 --> 00:17:24.799 Oh, I was thinking, you know some of the do 336 00:17:24.839 --> 00:17:26.960 you know where to get some of these autopsy records? 337 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:29.039 Do you the. 338 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:29.920 Movie from Hell. 339 00:17:31.960 --> 00:17:34.519 They blame it on and a cold person too. I 340 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:38.440 actually went and I just started scouring pages of fucking 341 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:41.640 and you can find stuff thrash. What were you gonna say, man? 342 00:17:43.519 --> 00:17:47.720 Oh, I was just gonna mention like divination of organs 343 00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:50.440 and stuff, like how a lot of tribes well use 344 00:17:50.519 --> 00:17:52.240 like pagan testings and stuff. 345 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:57.119 The Victorian era was chock full of all of that, 346 00:17:57.279 --> 00:18:00.519 like organ magic. They talked about it all the time. 347 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:02.680 It went hand in hand with all the surgical ship. 348 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:06.799 Let me see somebody take the wheel for a second. 349 00:18:06.839 --> 00:18:08.920 I gotta find this doctor is. 350 00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:12.960 It doctor Thomas Neil Cream. No, it was a weird 351 00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:13.559 last name. 352 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:22.200 I'm telling you. It was tumble Team when I hear it, 353 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:25.359 Ostron Samson. 354 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:30.279 Ight, s are we talking about Jack the Ripper right now? 355 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:31.720 Yeah? 356 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:33.279 Okay, So it wasn't. 357 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:38.839 One of the victims apparently was Alistair Crowley's maid or 358 00:18:39.400 --> 00:18:43.440 nanny who he lost his virginity to. Really and how 359 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:45.599 he got the nickname the Beast. 360 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:47.119 So that would be. 361 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:51.279 Very important magically to those guys to sacrifice her, you 362 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:54.440 know what I mean, just another interesting. 363 00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:54.799 Time with that. 364 00:18:55.240 --> 00:18:57.279 What would be her? I wonder what her name was. 365 00:18:57.559 --> 00:19:04.160 It had a huge Robert jahns In Stevenson, that's his name. 366 00:19:05.799 --> 00:19:08.839 There's the motherfucker right there. You're looking at Jack the 367 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:13.359 fucking Ripper. I'm telling you, guys. I'm telling you guys, 368 00:19:13.400 --> 00:19:18.400 that's that's him right there. Best's Yeah, he's got a 369 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:24.440 handlebar mustache. He was friends with her, all right, and 370 00:19:24.480 --> 00:19:26.720 he was a consultant on the murders. 371 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:27.200 You know. 372 00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:30.400 It's like a lot of murderers will go back and 373 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:32.799 revisit their crime scenes and they want to be a 374 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:35.880 part of it, and they want to like, uh you 375 00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:39.839 know what they say, like get the spotlight away from 376 00:19:39.839 --> 00:19:41.480 them because it's like, oh, it couldn't be him. He's 377 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:44.599 helping out with the case, right right. 378 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:46.279 But Mike. 379 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:52.119 Was saying the Black Dolly guy, the George Hodell mm hmmm, 380 00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:55.240 that guy too seems to be mean. 381 00:19:55.319 --> 00:20:00.200 He's Laurel Canyon. Fucking Hodel is Laurel Kenyon and it's fucking. 382 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:01.079 A Mayan house. 383 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:06.559 Yeah, simple house, yeah yeah. And then his daughter, Hodel's 384 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:10.119 daughter grows up and becomes best friends with Michelle Phillips, 385 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:14.079 and he's and he was incestuous with his kids, and 386 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:18.200 fucking John Phillips was incestuous with its kids. So it's 387 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:20.559 like a big fucking cult that they're in where they 388 00:20:20.599 --> 00:20:26.039 fuck kids. I'm sorry this is going on YouTube, okay, 389 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:28.400 but they fucked their kids and they do this shit. 390 00:20:28.519 --> 00:20:32.920 They the the Black Dahlia was so reminiscent of the 391 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:37.480 Rippers style of killing and shit. I mean those it's 392 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:38.119 birds of a. 393 00:20:38.039 --> 00:20:42.319 Feather to me, like like the painting that was yes about, 394 00:20:42.599 --> 00:20:46.000 there's like dismembered body parts basically in the paper. 395 00:20:46.039 --> 00:20:47.839 They get off on it. They get off on it. 396 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:50.960 Did I mention in the last episode, And I'm sure 397 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:52.680 we'll get into well, I am going to get into 398 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:57.640 it later, but one of the podestas either John or 399 00:20:58.160 --> 00:21:05.079 the fuck another one Tony Tony. They have a one 400 00:21:05.079 --> 00:21:09.960 of them has a golden Jeffrey Dahmer victim hanging in 401 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:18.000 there Tony sculture. Yeah. So it's like it's like they're 402 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:23.240 proud of this ship. They get off on this ship. Yeah, 403 00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:25.759 and it's because it's home grown. And I'll kind of 404 00:21:25.759 --> 00:21:27.880 get into that in a minute. It's because like, if 405 00:21:27.920 --> 00:21:34.039 you were gonna create this ultimate evil, right and it 406 00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:37.720 personifies as someone like Jeffrey Dahmer, my god, you'd be 407 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:40.599 you'd be. It's like having a straight A student or 408 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:45.079 some shit like. That's that's the what they're going for. 409 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:50.079 That's their goal, is to have this horrible monster unleashed 410 00:21:50.839 --> 00:21:56.400 into the world. I mean, he's one of the superstars 411 00:21:56.440 --> 00:21:58.920 you know that they talk about. But one of the 412 00:21:58.960 --> 00:22:02.359 other ones that I'm sure you guys might be familiar 413 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:05.359 with some of the stuff I'm gonna go over though, 414 00:22:05.640 --> 00:22:09.799 is Manson. He's a superstar. He'll always be a superstar. 415 00:22:09.920 --> 00:22:16.000 Everybody thinks he's great and and you know, even at 416 00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:19.319 the time, he's Laurel Canyon too, the the guy from 417 00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:25.559 the Beach Boys. What's his name, Brian Dennis, Yeah, Dennis Wilson. 418 00:22:25.880 --> 00:22:29.200 He had he had Charles Manson and his all his 419 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:33.240 family members posted up in his house and was just 420 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:35.480 like paying for all their shit and was like, oh, 421 00:22:35.599 --> 00:22:40.160 Charlie is great, and Neil Young, I think was second 422 00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:44.240 is dick left and right, I mean metaphorically and with 423 00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:48.880 oh Charlie's great, Charlie's this and that, and he Neil 424 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:52.319 Young is one of the biggest fucking vaccine pushing I'll 425 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:56.240 take myself off Spotify. Motherfucker's over. It's you know, all 426 00:22:56.279 --> 00:23:00.480 this shit goes together, all this shit. You guys are laughing, 427 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:02.920 I'm serious. He said he was going to take himself 428 00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:08.160 off Spotify. Like that's going to ruin somebody's days. Who 429 00:23:09.079 --> 00:23:11.839 I better go get jabbed right now. Or Neil Young 430 00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:15.359 is gonna take his three good songs off Spotify, Like. 431 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:18.720 Come on, I'll just listen to it on YouTube. 432 00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:20.920 Right. 433 00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:24.759 But it's like that, it's the same people who are 434 00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:28.400 our besties with Charles Manson and so me and Colby 435 00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:32.359 talked about this in my new series Blood Ties, And 436 00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:35.880 I'm not one hundred percent sure that the the Tate 437 00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:39.799 and or the Lobyanca murders really went down how they 438 00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:42.359 say they did. I think there's a lot of questions 439 00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:45.359 about it. I think that Charlie was doing some MK 440 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:50.240 ultra type ship on the Spawn movie Ranch. I think 441 00:23:50.319 --> 00:23:53.000 that uh, Julia, I don't know. 442 00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:56.640 Jj has a game he can play. It's six Degrees 443 00:23:56.680 --> 00:23:57.559 of Charles Manson. 444 00:23:58.359 --> 00:24:03.279 What Games and Operations GCD six six Degrees of Charles Manson? 445 00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:06.000 What is it? 446 00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:09.400 You can't just talk about it. 447 00:24:09.400 --> 00:24:12.319 It's in place of, you know, Kevin Bacon's game, Six 448 00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:16.599 Degrees of Kevin Bacon. Are you familiar with this concept? 449 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:18.039 No? Not really? 450 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:22.039 Oh wow, okay, there's no famous game that started in 451 00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:25.119 the nineties. Kevin Bacon hates it. I incorporated a clip 452 00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:27.160 of him asking for a new Patsy in the game. 453 00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:31.839 So it's my make a wish for Kevin Bacon, I 454 00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:33.559 find a new Patsy Charles Manson. 455 00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:35.680 Okay, all right. 456 00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:38.359 I mean a lot of. 457 00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:40.799 The details you're talking about surrounding Manson. The key concept 458 00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:43.519 that's often ever looked is the processed church of the 459 00:24:43.559 --> 00:24:44.319 final judgment. 460 00:24:44.599 --> 00:24:46.359 When you're talking about you know. 461 00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:49.119 The the tatans Planski's they were ever in rome with 462 00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:51.920 the process immediately preceding the murderers. 463 00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:55.119 Right right. I think that Roman Polanski definitely had more 464 00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:57.400 to do it with it than he lets On, that's 465 00:24:57.400 --> 00:24:57.839 for sure. 466 00:24:57.839 --> 00:24:58.559 Oh, for sure. 467 00:24:58.599 --> 00:25:00.519 There was definitely a whole Yeah, the whole the public 468 00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:04.240 narrative is hardly spun by the DA's office in Nucleiosi, 469 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:06.920 who's uh, you know, been out at every time as 470 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:10.359 a you know, wizard of of pr basically, but not 471 00:25:10.440 --> 00:25:11.160 of justice. 472 00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:12.000 Mm hmm. 473 00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:16.160 And I was just gonna say, drawing this all back in, uh, 474 00:25:16.599 --> 00:25:19.319 Kevin Bacon was in Once upon a Time in Hollywood, 475 00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:22.079 that Tarantino movie about the Manson murd. 476 00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:26.880 So, huh no, that's a good Yeah, it's a good 477 00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:29.759 It was a good kind of reimagination of the murders too. 478 00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:33.200 Right yeah right, yeah, yeah, I well, you know, I 479 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:37.119 thought it was a good movie. I typically like Tarantino stuff. Yeah, 480 00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:42.559 but Tarantino in in and of himself, defended Roman Polayanski 481 00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:45.200 when he raped that fucking thirteen. 482 00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:51.519 Year old, right he did, Right, that's all it comes down. 483 00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:53.519 He definitely did. Yeah. 484 00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:55.680 You know what Colby said, he was like, why do 485 00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:59.039 all the creeps make all the good movies? I was like, 486 00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:02.359 because that's like goes with if you like something, if 487 00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:05.960 something is massively popular, they're probably a fucking creep Like 488 00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:09.400 look at you know, Steven Spielberg and all that shit. Sure, 489 00:26:09.559 --> 00:26:13.240 I mean, the creepiest ones are the ones that make 490 00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:14.160 the best stuff. 491 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:18.000 I think one thing that Tarantino did once upon a 492 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:19.960 time in Hollywood, as far as he did the whole 493 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:22.559 reimagination thing of the murders, but he did incorporate a 494 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:26.400 lot of the other manson like an alternative, you know, 495 00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:30.279 corollarly aspects to the storyline. For example, Bruce Lee, who 496 00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:32.880 never gets mentioned within the whole narrative of that time. 497 00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:37.559 He was close friends with Sharon Tate and with Jay 498 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:42.079 se Bring, one of the other victims, so he never 499 00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:45.359 he's included in that movie. Tarantina did that on purpose 500 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:53.400 because he was part of that Yeah. 501 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:54.799 Yeah, but yeah, that is true. With what he's getting at. 502 00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:57.039 You really don't hear much about Bruce Lee actually being 503 00:26:57.119 --> 00:26:58.599 like kind of connected to that whole crew. 504 00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:00.000 There's a lot of people. 505 00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:05.839 There's a lot of interesting gems in there, like, for instance, 506 00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:09.160 like when they're going into El Coyote. I've said this 507 00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:12.359 before on an episode. I don't quite remember which one, 508 00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:15.200 but if you look in the background at the movie theater, 509 00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:20.039 in the background there's a pornography film, but it's the 510 00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:25.039 first pornography film that was shown in movie theaters. And 511 00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:29.799 there's a like a scene like where she Sharon Tate's 512 00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:33.519 going in and she says, uh, something like like I 513 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:37.799 didn't know they showed newdi films at the premieres. And 514 00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:41.839 the key tie in with that is that there the 515 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:47.319 mafia basically ran the pornography ring in La. And it's 516 00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:50.279 kind of hinting at that because they if you if 517 00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:52.680 you know who actually funded that first. 518 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:56.160 Film, it was the hold the Mafia of La, which 519 00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:57.440 ties into. 520 00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:05.319 Uh, the other victims, not the Tait victims, but the Lobyonce. Yeah, 521 00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:07.960 the Lobbyancas. Yes, because he was like a like a 522 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:09.200 bookie and stuff. 523 00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:11.359 For the mob. Yet you know he had like two 524 00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:15.680 hundred and fifty thousand dollars unpaid like gambling debts. And 525 00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:18.559 then they say, they say, oh he was he was 526 00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:21.960 a random target. There was no connection. There was no 527 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:25.400 when you rhyme or reason for why the Lobbyancas got it. 528 00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:27.880 And then you really start looking at that guy. I 529 00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:31.359 think his name was Leno Lino lobiance man. He was 530 00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:34.640 a shady shitter and they they do that shit. They 531 00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:39.319 mix some some they they mix some random shit with 532 00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:44.079 some on purpose shit to throw you off, because like, 533 00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:46.119 nobody's going to go dig in and find out this 534 00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:48.720 guy's got mob ties and he's got two hundred and 535 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.160 fifty thousand and gambling debts. Nobody's looking into that. But 536 00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:54.880 he did, and then he ended up fucking debt as 537 00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:58.759 shit with his whole family. So and then it's like 538 00:28:58.799 --> 00:29:01.640 I said before, I think Roman Polanski had way more 539 00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:05.279 to do with Sharon. Then he lets on, I think 540 00:29:05.319 --> 00:29:09.519 he fucked off out of town. So again to deflect guilt, like, oh, 541 00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:11.839 I was out of town, I have an alibi. I 542 00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:15.480 wasn't even in the country when it happened. But you 543 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.160 can usually look at the husband when something like that 544 00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:20.680 goes down. Anyways, did you. 545 00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:23.519 Ever see the j Sebring documentary that came out, Like, 546 00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:25.319 was it five six years ago? 547 00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:26.240 No? 548 00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:28.240 Was it like HBO or something? 549 00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:33.799 It was on Amazon. It's very interesting because it has 550 00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:41.400 the apparently Sharon was going through a gonna divorce Polanski 551 00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:45.440 and get back with Seabring, and uh, they even have 552 00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:48.839 like the lawyer and the attorney on the documentary and everything. 553 00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:50.000 Mm hmm. 554 00:29:50.240 --> 00:30:02.400 Somebody in the ninth grade too. 555 00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:01.759 Yeah, and that's the expective once upon a time in Hollywood. 556 00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:04.960 That they included was the Steve McQueen at the pool 557 00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:08.920 party talking about the love triangle between Roman Seabring and 558 00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:12.720 Sharon Tate because again part of the manson lord that 559 00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:15.960 that Tarantino incorporated. Steve McQueen was supposed to be there 560 00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:18.519 that night and apparently stopped at a gas station on 561 00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:21.720 the way over to the Tate Polanski house and met 562 00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:23.960 some met himself a nice lady for the evening. 563 00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:30.519 And McQueen supposedly after the murders went there, went to 564 00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:32.799 Sea Brings and got rid of a lot of the 565 00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:35.039 like cocaine and stuff he was selling. 566 00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:37.400 Sure, sure, well. 567 00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:40.240 And you know Jay see Bring was tight with Jim Morrison. 568 00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:43.119 He's the one who gave him that famous haircut. So, 569 00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:48.400 I mean, they're right, they're all connected to each other 570 00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:49.119 and they're. 571 00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:51.960 All stee Bring was a scientologist too as well. Again, 572 00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:55.839 these scientology process connections go throughout the whole, that whole 573 00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:57.720 social circle of folks in Marl Canyon. 574 00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:01.559 Mm hmmm. Dude, When we cover the Laurel Can. I 575 00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:04.480 hope you guys join us for that episode because I'll 576 00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:07.839 go through the whole fucking list of them. I mean, 577 00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:12.319 Dave McGowan does such a great job connecting the dots 578 00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:14.680 with some of that stuff. Who's friends with who, and 579 00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:18.240 like these murders and shit, And you know, Charles Manson 580 00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:24.240 definitely goes Laurel Canyon and Program to Kill He's in 581 00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:27.799 both books because it's it's like I said before, you 582 00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:31.559 can't ever take something like the Tate murders and the 583 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.079 Lobbyanca stuff at fates value. Oh, he was just a 584 00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:37.920 crazy guy and he brainwashed these people and they went 585 00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:40.799 and did this stuff that is absolutely not what happened. 586 00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:43.720 But and then and then to go as far as 587 00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:47.240 like this wastika and all that, I mean, that's just 588 00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:51.160 like throwing you off this scent even more. Oh, we'll 589 00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:53.559 just make him carve a staka in his head and 590 00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:56.720 do all this stuff. They want you so badly to 591 00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:02.119 believe that this mainstream narrative where there's just crazy people 592 00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:04.440 out there that'll just come to your house and just 593 00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.480 kill you for no reason, and everybody should be terrified. 594 00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:11.759 They love doing that to people. So I mean I 595 00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:16.759 think the serial killer was kind of born in the 596 00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:21.839 nineteen sixties. I think, just like the counter movement. I 597 00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:24.400 think it was almost like a five layer burrito. They 598 00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:27.720 had like all these different programs running at the same time. 599 00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:31.400 They had the serial killer program, they had the fucking 600 00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:37.039 counterculture movement going on, and they also had like women's 601 00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:41.640 like equality stuff going on at the same time. I mean, 602 00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:46.119 it really was a time to be alive, for sure. 603 00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:49.039 It almost makes you wonder how but how anybody made 604 00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:51.799 it fucking out alive just so quick? 605 00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:54.319 Oh sorry, go ahead, Well it's gonna say in the 606 00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:56.799 Vietnam War, I mean a lot of this stuff boils 607 00:32:56.839 --> 00:32:59.799 down to the whole program to kill. The reason why 608 00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:02.799 it ourtoons were violent. Why they had to start showing 609 00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:05.279 movies where people were shooting each other because in World 610 00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.799 War Two a lot of soldiers couldn't pull. 611 00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:11.440 The trigger, so it bottom up. 612 00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:14.480 But the Vietnam War is why a lot of these 613 00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:15.920 ops I think were going on. 614 00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:18.200 And the fucking Phoenix program. 615 00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:21.680 Yeah, and a lot of these murders. There was like 616 00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:23.599 three serial killers in the same area. 617 00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:26.599 M h. I mean, so there is some sort of 618 00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:28.519 program going on. I mean, it's so. 619 00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:31.799 Obvious that all these serial killers are magically coming out 620 00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:34.440 of this one city, the same. 621 00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:38.480 Exact saturated for sure, right in like one geographical region. 622 00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:38.720 Right. 623 00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:42.039 I was actually gonna get to another one that came out, 624 00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:43.440 but Teresa, you go first. 625 00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:46.640 Oh yeah, so I think Actually, a long time ago, 626 00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:49.480 when I was researching for an episode that we did 627 00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:51.720 with Kolby me, Nick and Koby did an episode on 628 00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:56.400 Elon Musk and his mom. May Musk and her twin 629 00:33:56.759 --> 00:34:01.279 K were friends with Charles Manson's is a rumor, of course, 630 00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:05.680 but like an interesting one nonetheless, And that Kay apparently 631 00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:08.559 there's a record of her visiting him in prison. They 632 00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:12.760 gave him like TVs and like other luxuries. May Musk 633 00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:16.119 apparently appears in the Helterskelter book like a photo of her. 634 00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:22.679 Oh my god, Oh that's a weird these fucking assholes. 635 00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:27.239 Is the first edition she's in in the first Okay, 636 00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:28.760 the first edition, I think. 637 00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.239 Okay, there's a she's in there. 638 00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:32.360 Yeah. 639 00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:38.679 Wow, that's fucked up, right, so fucked I mean, that's 640 00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:39.280 what I'm saying. 641 00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:39.440 Though. 642 00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:43.880 It is like all these people who are like like 643 00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:49.280 the beach boy guy and Neil Young and fucking apparently 644 00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:53.599 Elon Musk's mom, right, like they're all they're all friends 645 00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:55.599 with this guy and they all used to like sing 646 00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:59.079 his praises and ship. 647 00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:03.519 Yeah, Jack, guys there the lady from Mama's and Papa's 648 00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:05.440 Mama cast. 649 00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:05.800 Well. 650 00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:09.119 John Phillips was noted on an I n S document 651 00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:12.559 is funding the Process church's activities in Los Angeles, So 652 00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:15.360 and Mama Cass had to run ins with Scientology and in 653 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:16.239 the process as well. 654 00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:18.440 So again you're talking about the same kind of report 655 00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:19.000 with these cults. 656 00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:21.000 And I think these cults operate some of that mind 657 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:23.840 control stuff in the program to kill aspects not just 658 00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:25.000 man somebody you also. 659 00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:28.760 Got Sirhan Sirhan old double Sir Haan was noted as well. 660 00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:34.559 And Investigatory Documents is attending an English sex cults or 661 00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:39.199 English cult sex magic rituals, which the referring to the 662 00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:40.199 Process and that in that. 663 00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:44.480 Statement, well, that's that's like what Henry Lee Lucas was saying. 664 00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.800 He was trained by a cult that worked with the 665 00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:52.159 government to produce these mind controlled killers. And I don't 666 00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:55.559 know how much you guys know about Zodiac or how 667 00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:58.480 much we talked about Zodiac in the last episode, but 668 00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:02.320 that's another one that came out of San Francisco, uh, 669 00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:06.000 kind of near the Presidio area, kind of near fucking 670 00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:10.840 the Michael Achino stuff. And that's why I think personally 671 00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:14.760 he could have been one of many Zodiac killers. I 672 00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:19.480 do believe that there were many killers. I don't think 673 00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:23.159 that it was just one guy. And the fact that 674 00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:27.159 they always get like this Bitch and Moniker. After that, 675 00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:29.679 like maybe two people die and all of a sudden 676 00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:32.559 you got like a guy with this bitch and the Zodiac, 677 00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:37.480 the Green River Killer, the you know, Jack, the Ripper, 678 00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:40.960 like all these names. It gives it like a sensationalism, 679 00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:44.199 and it gives them almost like a celebrity status. And 680 00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:48.800 then you have people getting these codes that are sent 681 00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:52.320 in by the Zodiac and they're obsessing over them, trying 682 00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:55.679 to crack these codes and shit. And the motherfucker showed 683 00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:59.199 up to one of the murders with the full asked 684 00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:05.880 costume on full ass apron with a big Zodiac sigil 685 00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:11.679 on it, in sunglasses, and none of the other survivors 686 00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:15.280 talk about a guy in a full blown like batman 687 00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:18.679 suit coming to murder you, and then you know they 688 00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:21.760 give him it. Oh, it's the Zodiac and then he 689 00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:25.000 addresses himself as Zodiac. So I think it was just 690 00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:30.760 many people working in tandem doing this shit, and they 691 00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:34.760 just put one bad guy as like the main focus 692 00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:38.360 who has never caught. But there's always like military boot 693 00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:40.679 prints that show up at all the crime scenes with 694 00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:45.880 the Zodiac. The taxi driver that was shot near the 695 00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:50.320 Presidio Hides area, there were like three kids that called 696 00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.159 the police and gave an identification of the man that 697 00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:56.639 they softling the crime scene. And instead of giving the 698 00:37:56.679 --> 00:38:00.559 police that description, they said, look for a black guy. 699 00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:03.440 And that's not even the fucking that's not even what 700 00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:06.039 the fucking kids said. They said they saw a tall 701 00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:09.840 white guy with the group cut, haircut, with boots on 702 00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:12.119 fleeing the scene. They and then they told the police 703 00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:16.400 officers look for an for an armed black man and 704 00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:19.760 gave gave him, gave the real Zodiac whoever it was 705 00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:22.840 time to fucking make his head away. So I think 706 00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:26.079 that these guys are protected from on high. I think 707 00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:28.079 that they don't want to be caught. They don't want 708 00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:32.239 anybody to catch these guys, and it like just terrifies people. 709 00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:35.079 But I don't know what you guys think. About the 710 00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:39.000 multiple assailants for the Zodiac. But I definitely think it 711 00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:40.280 was multiple assailants. 712 00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:42.639 Oh the. 713 00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:47.800 Again, the George Hodell, his son claims that it was him. 714 00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:51.159 Like he's, oh my god, that wouldn't that be a 715 00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:52.519 fucking twist. 716 00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:54.280 Yeah, he claims that, like and. 717 00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:58.000 Like when they stopped that he moved back to he 718 00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:00.599 like moved to like Indonesia or the Philmhippines. 719 00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:04.400 Oh shit, yeah. 720 00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:06.199 And he was like an old man then and he 721 00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:09.519 married like a Filipino wife after he left San Francisco. 722 00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:14.000 Oh my god. But you know it's I think maybe 723 00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:17.079 let's just say George Hodell was one and Michael Aquino 724 00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:19.880 was one. And I think that, you know, when you 725 00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:23.079 look at possible suspects for the Zodiac, you'll find like 726 00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:26.719 these huge long lists, and all the reasons that they 727 00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:30.159 give are pretty credible, Like, Okay, that makes sense that 728 00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:33.440 person could be the Zodiac. And and what I'm trying 729 00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:35.679 to say is maybe all of them were the Zodiac 730 00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:37.719 for all we know, Like maybe they were all fucking 731 00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:40.880 there was a group of people doing this shit and 732 00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:46.119 something else weird about Well, I'm sure did you guys 733 00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:48.239 watch the movie with Robert Downey Junior. 734 00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:50.840 Sure you did. 735 00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:54.400 I like David Fincher. Yeah, I thought it was a 736 00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:55.079 great movie. 737 00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:57.440 But it's all based on one book. 738 00:39:57.480 --> 00:39:58.880 So I think that's what a lot of the people's 739 00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:00.800 problems are because it's in that one book. 740 00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:03.480 Yeah, because they try to put everything on the fat 741 00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:05.159 guy that works at the factory. 742 00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:08.280 Right again, So there's a lot of interesting aspects I 743 00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:10.440 ever looked on in that story about my manner jectrial 744 00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:14.360 quick relative to specifically framing other people. So the Edward 745 00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:17.159 Wayne Edwards factor is often over, is often ignored. 746 00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:17.719 I agree with you. 747 00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:21.079 It's definitely a team of Satanists. The letters, there's there's 748 00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:25.639 overt references to croleisms and delima in in the letters, 749 00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:28.559 in the zodiac letters that people no one wants to 750 00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:34.039 address that aspect. I'm not even that schooled, and I. 751 00:40:33.960 --> 00:40:35.960 Can see this ship and the and the letters. It's 752 00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:36.679 pretty obvious. 753 00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:39.440 Well, if I traded a kindergartener how to recroley, they 754 00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:42.360 would identify the same the same characteristics in these letters. 755 00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:44.880 That's how That's how I find out how obvious it is. 756 00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:46.639 Oh, I'm one hundred. 757 00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:49.599 I think it just due to the one time, I mean, 758 00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:51.599 JJ said it as a joke, but I mean, in 759 00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:53.559 all honesty, I think it does look a little bit 760 00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:56.639 like the Zodiac Killer's hood. I mean I have a 761 00:40:56.639 --> 00:41:00.880 hood to the astro, right, I mean I've posted and 762 00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:03.719 it's very much like the hood that the Zodiac Killer 763 00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:08.000 showed up with. And it's it's I've seen, especially people 764 00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:10.559 like Thelamites, but it is a type of like jewelry 765 00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:12.840 and stuff I've seen people wear a lot. They'll wear 766 00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:15.960 that circle with an X in it, which does kind 767 00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:17.800 of look like a crosshair, and it's the symbol of 768 00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:21.840 malkouth now when you're starting to screw around with the Kabbala. 769 00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:25.320 So in my opinion, that guy's outfit could literally have 770 00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:30.079 been somebody who, in my opinion, might be into thelemic stuff. 771 00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:33.400 I could easily turn my hood inside out and look 772 00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:34.440 like the Zodiac Killer. 773 00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:35.599 Yeah. 774 00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:37.679 One of the things I liked about the movie from 775 00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:40.880 Hell is that they incorporated a lot of that Kabbala 776 00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:44.840 Masonic symbols, like some of that ship wasn't seen on 777 00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:47.199 film before that time, and they just went they went 778 00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:48.960 hard with all the rituals. 779 00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:52.400 But I think that's like really real. I think that 780 00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:55.679 like the Zodiac and shit, I think that's the real shit. 781 00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:00.800 There's so much of ass over between the actions of 782 00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:04.039 these different groups and just do the same things go ahead. 783 00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:07.320 Well, the codes and the ciphers and that, and the 784 00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:10.440 symbols and the fact that it's everything's done by the 785 00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:11.639 stars in the zodiac. 786 00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:14.760 That's very Saturnian too. 787 00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:18.199 And then there's inner orders of some of these Saturnian 788 00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:21.239 lodges called the fogg Lodges. 789 00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:23.440 And their whole thing is human sacrifice. 790 00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:29.880 Yeah, and and this is old school black German magic 791 00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:31.800 and it's all about the stars and it's all about 792 00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:36.400 zodiac and so and they wear black hoods too, So 793 00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:38.719 I mean it could be possible. I've ben't looked into 794 00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:41.960 it that much, but I mean it's ciphered like that. 795 00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:44.280 It's the symbols are similar. 796 00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:47.639 Well, and they leave a lot of details out when 797 00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:51.639 they make movies about the zodiac and even documentaries they make. 798 00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:55.760 And just I just have to address a comment that 799 00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:59.679 popped up about Satanist having great eyebrows. I'm like the 800 00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:02.239 least Satanist of all of us because I don't fucking 801 00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:02.719 have any. 802 00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:10.719 So, yeah, he used to like gel his shit up, 803 00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:13.960 like like yeah, yeah. 804 00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:16.960 But like okay, so let me let me just give 805 00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:20.840 you some info on the first. The first is what 806 00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:26.280 they call it zodiac victim. It was a girl named Darlene, 807 00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:31.039 and then the guy what was his name, Michael Majoe 808 00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:36.719 I'm pretty sure was his last name. And so Darlene 809 00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:41.360 was telling her friends a couple of weeks before she 810 00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:47.039 was murdered that she was receiving like packages from someone 811 00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:50.679 but wouldn't say who it was from, and that she 812 00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:55.280 had an ex husband that was weird and was in 813 00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:58.880 Mexico or something, and maybe he had killed somebody. And 814 00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:03.159 she was telling, yeah, there you go, look at that shit. Yeah, 815 00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:07.960 fucking Keino's eyebrows. But so, all this stuff was going down, 816 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:10.079 and she was telling her friends about it, like I 817 00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:13.559 have an ex husband that maybe killed somebody, and I'm 818 00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:16.440 getting packages in the mail and stuff like this. And 819 00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:20.000 the mainstream narrative is that Darlene went to go pick 820 00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:21.960 up this mic guy and that they were going to 821 00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:25.000 go to a lover's lane situation and like make out. 822 00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:29.599 But what's weird is the front door to Michael Majoe's 823 00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:32.719 house was left wide open. All the lights in his 824 00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:34.880 house were on. It looked like he had left in 825 00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:39.280 a hurry. Darlene's talking about getting mysterious packages from her 826 00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:44.000 ex husband or somebody, and that she's worried about it, 827 00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:48.960 and then she ends up dead. And like, I mean, 828 00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:51.840 I can't even believe the one guy he shot both 829 00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:54.719 of them like eight times or ten times or something 830 00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:58.360 like that, and the one guy lived. But I mean, 831 00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:04.519 it's just like the Darlene murder seemed like she knew 832 00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:08.280 her attacker and that she had almost kind of like 833 00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:13.039 had a foreboding feeling that she was in danger. So 834 00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:16.039 it doesn't fit the rest of the Zodiac killings if 835 00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:20.440 they were all just random acts of violence. And I 836 00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:24.000 think that it was a group that's a hit. Yeah, 837 00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:25.360 I think I think it was. 838 00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:27.559 And you know, I agree with you, but I agree 839 00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:29.440 with you for sure. She she had direct connections to 840 00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:30.599 the Processed. 841 00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:32.360 Church in her Darlene did. 842 00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:36.559 Oh, yes, her husband Jim Phillips Crabtree, the guy who 843 00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:37.639 referred to as her ex husband. 844 00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:39.880 There were quasi domestic. 845 00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:42.440 Married, right right, right, right? Yeah? 846 00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:44.760 Yeah, So we were living down the head in Ashbury 847 00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:47.559 and they had they had Processed Church connections and in 848 00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:50.199 that address book that she had on her person, and 849 00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:52.039 it was long I think my kind of take on 850 00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:54.519 the head is she was able to identify the people 851 00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:57.400 in that it was actually Jim Phillips Crabtree's book, her 852 00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:01.840 quote unquote ex husband, his address book, and he's a 853 00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:02.920 very spooky figure. 854 00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:10.039 What do you think about the Zodiac being kind of 855 00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:13.679 like the son of Sam because, like he told, he 856 00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:16.280 admitted to some of this ship, but then he said, 857 00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:19.480 there are other people working with me that they never 858 00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:23.119 went and looked. For sure. I feel like Zodiac is 859 00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:24.719 exactly that I know. 860 00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:26.760 I think that's exactly what's going on for sure. Yeah. 861 00:46:26.840 --> 00:46:28.840 So I think that that everyone Edwards guy, I look 862 00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:31.280 at him as a referenced to like this this hand 863 00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:34.559 of death cult situation that Henry Lucas was talking about. 864 00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:36.960 I look at everyone Edwards is actually being like a 865 00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:38.599 general in that Handed death cult. 866 00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:40.079 And a lot of the lot of the. 867 00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:42.719 Crimes that Lucas and o'tool and tool were taken Tool 868 00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:45.920 were taken taking credit for, we're actually crimes that everyone 869 00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:49.440 Edwards was personally involved in. And at the same time 870 00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:52.000 they're taking credit for it. He's making parole on some 871 00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:55.920 arson charges where in those arson charges he actually they 872 00:46:55.960 --> 00:47:00.400 found a Marietta Georgia police police uniform. This house of 873 00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:03.199 Pennsylvania he burned down for insurance fraud that he went 874 00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:06.480 to prison for there, but he had infiltrated, speaking of 875 00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:09.400 these folks, going into to back to the crime scene, 876 00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:12.679 he infiltrated the Atlanta Child Killing's Task Force, faking to 877 00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:16.800 be a marryat a police sergeant. So he's very likely 878 00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:22.320 in the Zodiac killer team. For example, So there was 879 00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:25.440 a Blue Rock Springs Park park murder. I believe that 880 00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:28.199 was December of sixty eight, and then July exact. 881 00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:30.159 The one where he showed up in the costume. 882 00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:32.639 No, so that was that was the first one was 883 00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:35.119 the lover was our Lover's Lane one much like the 884 00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:39.719 Darlene and Michael Majoe one. So and everyone Edwards is 885 00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:42.320 actually confirmed. So out of all these suspects for the Zodiac, 886 00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:46.599 the only person that's confirmed has committed numerous Lovers Lane 887 00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:49.559 murders in the exact fashion of the Zodiac and numerous 888 00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:52.840 states over multiple decades. In fact, is Edward Wynn Edwards. 889 00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:55.440 No one else on that suspect list is ever confirmed 890 00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:59.519 murder of any regard, and especially the exact samemo involved 891 00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:03.239 in the Zodia killings. In addition to that, the third 892 00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:09.159 crime scene there at it's Lake barry Essa with the ball, 893 00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:12.280 that's the hood, that's the gost one. 894 00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:12.679 Yeah. 895 00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:14.920 Yeah, that's the middle of the day. That's that's that's 896 00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:16.760 the later in the afternoons, those daylight hours. That's the 897 00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:19.519 only one in daylight hours. But all the details that 898 00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:22.480 the costumed killer gives to the to the victims, right, 899 00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:27.320 those all those details were details of Edward win Ever's life. 900 00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.280 So that was that was nineteen sixty nine. All those 901 00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:32.239 details that he had given the victims of that day 902 00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:33.960 was nineteen fifty nine. 903 00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:35.559 They occurred, he broke out. 904 00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:38.480 Of Montana prison, he murdered a prison guard, he went 905 00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:40.480 on the run to Mexico. He was you know, this 906 00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:43.079 is that all did occur in everyone Ever's life. But 907 00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:45.360 that was nineteen fifty nine, and that's what made him 908 00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:48.159 the number one most wanted person on the FBI's Most 909 00:48:48.159 --> 00:48:48.719 Wanted lists. 910 00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:52.440 The youngest are right, all right, So that makes a ton. 911 00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:54.559 Of sos ibollical mm hmm. 912 00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:57.199 Well, I have to say, let's just say he's one 913 00:48:57.199 --> 00:49:01.039 of them, right, and there is like others identified. I 914 00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:03.800 have to say like and I'm not saying my favorite 915 00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:06.480 because I love fucking serial killers or something like that. 916 00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:09.679 But if I was gonna pick a favorite serial killer, 917 00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:14.199 it's definitely not Zodiac. I mean, the motherfucker is sloppy. 918 00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:17.599 He leaves people alive. He doesn't even all the way 919 00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:21.400 kill people. He had two survivors. If you're gonna be 920 00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:23.559 a badass serial killer and put a fucking hood on 921 00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:26.199 your head and do all this codes and shit, at 922 00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:29.800 least kill your victims. Like He's not even good at it. 923 00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:34.599 He's like the shitty serial killer ever. Yeah, So but 924 00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:37.679 they have to keep like this narrative of the serial 925 00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:40.960 killer going because, like, as Zodiacs started to fade out, 926 00:49:41.960 --> 00:49:46.800 head Bundy was actually on a plane flying to San Francisco, 927 00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:51.039 where the Zodiac murders were going down. Nobody knows why 928 00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:53.480 he was going there, but as soon as he gets 929 00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:57.559 back to Seattle, he starts ripping through and uh, fucking 930 00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:00.679 killing all these bitches all over Seattle. So what do 931 00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:04.599 you think? What you guys are laughing? And it's the 932 00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:09.760 damn truth. It's like, what was he doing in San Francisco? 933 00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:11.039 Sure? 934 00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:14.280 Can I bring up a point that I keep thinking about? 935 00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:18.440 It's okay, so you brought up earlier, Like you feel 936 00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:21.920 like the serial killer thing was kind of like created 937 00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:26.039 around the sixties and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 938 00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:31.840 I really feel like Michael Aquino has some some weird stuff, Dude. 939 00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:35.280 I've said that. I've said that for the longest. 940 00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:38.280 Like Mike has pointed out, like with the other episodes 941 00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:41.639 we've done, like the psy Ops and sy War and 942 00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:45.039 all that. And again that Ghost in the Machine video 943 00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:46.840 on YouTube, go ahead and watch it. 944 00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:49.760 Does it talk about Aquino? 945 00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:51.760 No, but he. 946 00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:58.440 Basically created that whole that was war. 947 00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:04.400 Effect. Now we're seeing it full side war on all levels. 948 00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:09.320 Sure, he started his whole thing right there in Vietnam 949 00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:12.159 right there, and then he was writing a lot of 950 00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:14.199 the rituals for the Satanic Church. 951 00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:21.000 Yeah, you know, do you know what the Alice in 952 00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:22.400 Wonderland technique is. 953 00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:27.480 About, like disassociating the kids and shit. 954 00:51:28.119 --> 00:51:30.559 Well, it's sort of like that. What you do is 955 00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:35.119 using NLP. This was big in the Scientology Church. So 956 00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:38.760 el Ron had all of his top operators learn how 957 00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:42.840 to repeat nonsensical phrases and then follow it up with 958 00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:46.280 an anchoring word like are we clear? So we're talking 959 00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:49.039 about these guys who are using the e meter using 960 00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:55.440 these techniques to try and break down people's resistance to interrogation. 961 00:51:56.400 --> 00:51:59.000 So if you look at all these different events, it's 962 00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:02.840 meant to confuse throw people off. It's just the beginning 963 00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:07.960 part of that kind of Alice in Wonderland technique. And 964 00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:10.920 so they got to follow it up with something to 965 00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:13.480 try and get the population moving in a certain direction. 966 00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:18.440 Yeah, and lead a man's piece godless. 967 00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:24.599 Well, I think that's why they do like multiple projects 968 00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:27.880 at one time, to like get you to focus on 969 00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:30.480 several different things, because it's, like I said, they have 970 00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:33.119 the counterculture shit going on, they have the serial killer 971 00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:37.119 shit going on, and then they have like women's equality 972 00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:41.800 shit going on, and they keep pushing women to be 973 00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:45.599 more independent, and then they're sending people like Ted Bundy 974 00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:48.159 out there to murder them for doing it right. And 975 00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:52.679 so it's very counterintuitive, and they do that shit on purpose. 976 00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:55.840 It's very much by design. And it's like I said, 977 00:52:55.880 --> 00:52:58.679 as soon as like the Zodiac things started to fizzle out, 978 00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:01.719 Ted Bundy's on a plane to San Francisco, god knows 979 00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:04.679 what he's doing there, then flies back to Seattle, becomes 980 00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:07.480 the psychopath that we know he is today. 981 00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:12.199 And yeah, and. 982 00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:18.599 Colorado flies around on his own identity, right, and like. 983 00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:26.119 He's political too. He worked for the Republican Party. You know, 984 00:53:26.519 --> 00:53:30.320 he was going to law school. And a lot of 985 00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:34.239 the serial killers are either political or they're military. That's 986 00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:37.519 something that's a common thread between a lot of them. 987 00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:40.320 Yeah, exactly. 988 00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:45.599 And like the crazy thing about Ted is all these 989 00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:49.199 girls started going missing in different states, but they couldn't 990 00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:52.920 quite connect to them, so they ha So all these 991 00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:56.840 states got together and they had this big conference and 992 00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:00.239 they were like, we gotta identify this guy before before 993 00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:06.360 he gets any more girls. And h are you guys 994 00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:11.039 familiar with the true crime author? And Rule she writes 995 00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:14.039 a bunch of She's basically like before podcasts, we're cool. 996 00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:16.519 She wrote books about all these serial killers and shit, 997 00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:19.519 she's a true crime author. But she happened to be 998 00:54:19.639 --> 00:54:22.599 friends with Ted Bundy, worked with him at the Rape 999 00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:25.480 Crisis Center, if you can believe that Ted Bundy worked 1000 00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:29.239 at the rape Crisis Center. And so she attended this 1001 00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:32.000 conference where they're saying, oh, we got to get this 1002 00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:36.599 guy who's taken all these girls whatever. And Ann Rule 1003 00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:42.280 attends that conference and then a couple of days later, 1004 00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:45.440 a bunch of girls I think two girls go missing 1005 00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:49.320 from Lake Samamish State Park and a bunch of witnesses 1006 00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:53.519 say that the person that approached both of those girls 1007 00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:58.159 identified himself as Ted. And the first person to turn 1008 00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:01.000 his name over to the Ted Ed Squad is what 1009 00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:04.480 they called it was Anne Rule. And she keeps popping 1010 00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:06.880 up in Ted Bundy's life over and over again. She 1011 00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:12.679 knows some of the victims. She's oddly connected with the 1012 00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:19.079 Ted Bundy case, and she makes herself famous afterwards for 1013 00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:22.480 writing a book about him, and she just pops up 1014 00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:23.480 and it's real weird. 1015 00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:29.960 And didn't Ted Bundy also escape from prison twice? 1016 00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:34.519 So yeah twice, Yeah, and got airline tickets under his 1017 00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:36.400 actual name while he was on the LAMB. 1018 00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:43.000 So I mean stuff like that. Like, think about this. 1019 00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:46.440 The day that they got the name Ted and they 1020 00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:50.519 formed like this Ted Squad or whatever, it was at 1021 00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:54.320 a beach where they were having a police picnic and 1022 00:55:54.360 --> 00:55:58.800 there was like hundreds of police officers there, but nobody, Okay, 1023 00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:02.719 there was it's like five hundred people on this beach 1024 00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:05.400 and there was at least one hundred of them were 1025 00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:14.519 police officers. Nobody saw anything, and then so everybody turned 1026 00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:16.880 over all the pictures that they took that day at 1027 00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:20.480 the beach, And there were thousands and thousands of pictures 1028 00:56:20.519 --> 00:56:23.320 that were that day of people for all looking around 1029 00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:26.639 and having a good time at the beach. Not one 1030 00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:31.960 picture of Ted anywhere, not a photo bomb picture of Ted, 1031 00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:34.159 not a picture of Ted in the distance. 1032 00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:34.719 Ted. 1033 00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:37.480 It's like, Ted's not fucking there. And both of the 1034 00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:40.519 witnesses that gave his name and said we saw a 1035 00:56:40.559 --> 00:56:44.920 man approaching this person, and they had identified themselves as Ted. 1036 00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:48.239 One person said that he had blonde hair. One person 1037 00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:52.159 said that he, you know, had dark short hair. Like 1038 00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:55.239 none of the witnesses statements were adding up. It was 1039 00:56:55.239 --> 00:56:58.000 almost like they were told to say that. And then 1040 00:56:58.079 --> 00:57:00.119 all of a sudden and Rule is like, Oh, I 1041 00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:02.360 know who it is. It's Ted Bundy. I work right 1042 00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:05.280 next to him at the rape crisis center. She just 1043 00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:09.320 happens to know him. And fucking he doesn't even match 1044 00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:12.760 the descriptions that were given from the witnesses at the park. 1045 00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:15.440 So how is it, I mean, guys, it doesn't make 1046 00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:21.559 any sense. How they know, yes, he was, he was 1047 00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:23.920 and to. 1048 00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:26.440 The Attorney General of the state, right mm hmm. 1049 00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:29.880 And so. 1050 00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:34.840 They find out wasn't there. 1051 00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:37.679 Wasn't there a claim that some of the girls that 1052 00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:42.239 Ted had I killed or whatever, that they were actual hits, 1053 00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:44.679 not all of them, but some of them, and that 1054 00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:47.039 they were some were hits, but then some were just 1055 00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:49.360 random to kind of make it all look like a 1056 00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:51.119 serial that's exactly. 1057 00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:55.039 What they do. That it was a hit, yeah, because 1058 00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:57.599 I was. That was actually the next thing in my 1059 00:57:57.639 --> 00:57:59.360 notes that I was going to tell you guys about 1060 00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:03.480 is two of them in particular were kept alive somewhere 1061 00:58:03.519 --> 00:58:06.960 for like a long period of time before that they 1062 00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:11.159 were murdered, And that was completely outside the norm for 1063 00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:14.719 all the other Bundy victims. They were always abducted and 1064 00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:19.239 immediately killed shortly thereafter. But there were two in particular 1065 00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:22.840 that one of them was a police chief's daughter and 1066 00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:25.480 the other one was like somebody else high up's daughter. 1067 00:58:26.559 --> 00:58:30.159 And they found out that they had been kept somewhere 1068 00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:33.599 for like over a week, that they had been completely 1069 00:58:33.679 --> 00:58:36.679 drained of blood, and that their bodies had been dumped, 1070 00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:39.440 but they weren't bludgeoned like the rest of the girls. 1071 00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:43.280 And one of the girls that was kept for over 1072 00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:47.840 a week and then totally bled out. Ted was on 1073 00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:51.440 a hunting trip with one of his friends when she 1074 00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:54.880 supposedly was being held captive somewhere and being bled out. 1075 00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:57.079 So that didn't even make sense for him to have 1076 00:58:57.920 --> 00:59:02.440 done it. And yet he goes down as being the murderer. 1077 00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:05.079 Didn't he I mean, didn't he even do some other 1078 00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:07.840 stuff where like he was almost like some Brian Colberger 1079 00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:10.000 type shit. He walked up into like a sorority house 1080 00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:13.400 and just stabbed a bunch of bitches and like all 1081 00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:16.519 in separate rooms and like nobody ever heard anything. 1082 00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:22.719 Now Tallahassee, Yeah, that was the Kyomega House. But think 1083 00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:27.440 about it, Nick, it doesn't fucking fitz Yeah, because he 1084 00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:30.840 would snatch and grab right one single female, get him 1085 00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:33.639 in the car, bash them over the head, dump their body, 1086 00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:36.280 and then he would necro file them. He would like 1087 00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:38.599 to go back to his dump sites and like fuck 1088 00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:41.800 the corpses and shit over a period of time. The 1089 00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:45.119 Kyomega fucking sorority house, he just went in there with 1090 00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:47.880 the fucking club and just started bashing bitches over the head. 1091 00:59:48.119 --> 00:59:51.199 That didn't fit the narrative. He liked to be secretive 1092 00:59:51.199 --> 00:59:53.679 about what he was doing. I'm telling you right now, 1093 00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:58.119 he was probably responsible for a third of the murders 1094 00:59:58.199 --> 01:00:00.639 that have been pinned on him. The rest of this 1095 01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:03.039 ship was random as fuck, and it had to be 1096 01:00:03.119 --> 01:00:07.760 other people because all right, you guys know one of 1097 01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:10.440 the survived Ted Bundy survivors that they always show on 1098 01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:12.840 like doctor Phil and shit. Her name is Carol Durance. 1099 01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:16.079 And he picked her up at a shopping mall and 1100 01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:18.719 like she broke loose from him and fucking ran away. 1101 01:00:19.079 --> 01:00:25.880 All right, so yeah, right, and she's also Mormon. I 1102 01:00:26.199 --> 01:00:33.880 should get he converted. Yeah he did, he did, uh huh. 1103 01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:38.000 But so the the shopping mall where he abducted Carol Durance, right, 1104 01:00:39.320 --> 01:00:45.000 was exactly, I want to say, uh, twenty five miles 1105 01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:50.719 from another abduction site where he supposedly he uh, Carol 1106 01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:54.400 got away, and he went to a school, picked someone 1107 01:00:54.440 --> 01:00:57.440 else up and murdered him because he got mad that 1108 01:00:57.519 --> 01:01:01.280 Carol got loose. But the problem is the timeframe in 1109 01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:05.199 which Carol got away and the second victim was abducted 1110 01:01:05.679 --> 01:01:11.480 was fifteen minutes, and there is no way humanly possible 1111 01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:15.599 for Ted to have gotten from point A, the abduction 1112 01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:19.639 site of Carol Deranch, to point B, the school where 1113 01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:23.440 the other girl was kidnapped. In fifteen minutes. There's no 1114 01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:26.920 fucking way he could do it. And all of the 1115 01:01:26.960 --> 01:01:32.039 witnesses told the police that it was a guy, a 1116 01:01:32.280 --> 01:01:36.440 guy with long sandy blonde hair, that abducted the girl 1117 01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:38.719 from the school. But what did they do? They put 1118 01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:43.599 that on Ted too, and so he's constantly getting murders 1119 01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:47.320 piled up onto him that he couldn't have even fucking 1120 01:01:47.360 --> 01:01:51.320 physically been there to do it. But this is how 1121 01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:55.480 they create this narrative of the serial killer. And God 1122 01:01:55.519 --> 01:01:58.559 only knows who really abducted that girl from the school, 1123 01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:00.280 will never fucking know. 1124 01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:02.679 What if they what if they just bring them out 1125 01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:07.239 on camera and shackles and stuff and they really didn't 1126 01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:10.280 do anything, and then they just they just get to 1127 01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:14.360 go like, uh, I wanted that golfing and like to 1128 01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:19.840 travel Europe and stuff. They need another interview, they just 1129 01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:22.280 bring out he does this crazy little ship. 1130 01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:27.360 You guys, remember in our last episode, I said, I 1131 01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:29.840 think a lot of these serial killers are just actors 1132 01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:32.599 playing a role, because I don't even think that they 1133 01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:35.400 could have been in the position where they could have 1134 01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:38.079 done half of the crimes that they say that they did, 1135 01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:41.920 and Ted is one of them. So going back to 1136 01:02:41.960 --> 01:02:42.320 something that. 1137 01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:45.719 Man, quick, What was that park you had mentioned before? 1138 01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:47.679 The Ted Bundy got some of those victims from there 1139 01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:48.559 in Washington State. 1140 01:02:49.400 --> 01:02:52.599 Smamish, smamish. 1141 01:02:55.239 --> 01:02:56.320 Whatever that is. 1142 01:02:56.960 --> 01:03:01.199 Speaking of Brian Coburger, that's the bark he was supposedly 1143 01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:11.400 had the night of the murders. Strangely, really, I don't 1144 01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:12.960 think he's got a bunch of eyebrows though. 1145 01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:15.119 Well they said found they. 1146 01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:18.079 Found out he did walk up into a house and 1147 01:03:18.159 --> 01:03:19.440 just step muffles. 1148 01:03:20.239 --> 01:03:22.559 Well, I don't think Brian Coberger did, but somebody did. 1149 01:03:23.079 --> 01:03:29.320 Somebody did to the the ky Omega house that Nick 1150 01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:31.519 was talking about, where he just went in there with 1151 01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:35.119 a with a tree branch and just started clubbing bitches 1152 01:03:35.119 --> 01:03:41.519 over the head. Right, So in that trial, I'm serious 1153 01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:46.039 he did. The reason they were able to get him 1154 01:03:46.280 --> 01:03:50.440 in the Kyomega Sorority trial is one of the victims 1155 01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:53.519 had a bite mark on their ass. This is this 1156 01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:58.239 was the thing. This is what got him, the elusive 1157 01:03:58.320 --> 01:04:03.440 fucking bite mark evidence. Here's the problem. They later went 1158 01:04:03.599 --> 01:04:09.400 back and admitted that they did not have the original 1159 01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:12.320 bite mark that was found on the victim. They said 1160 01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:16.079 that they had cut it out of their skin, put 1161 01:04:16.119 --> 01:04:19.960 it in a solution that accidentally dissolved it, and that 1162 01:04:20.079 --> 01:04:22.679 they had to go to prison and get molds of 1163 01:04:22.719 --> 01:04:28.199 Ted Bundy's teeth and press them into random dead people's asses, 1164 01:04:28.360 --> 01:04:32.280 hut the morgue and take pictures of it to reproduce 1165 01:04:32.360 --> 01:04:35.199 what they saw on the dead first dead body. Does 1166 01:04:35.239 --> 01:04:37.679 that make sense to you, guys, No. 1167 01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:38.599 Not whatsoever. 1168 01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:42.639 Why would you if Ted Bundy bit one of the 1169 01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:46.400 bitch's asses and you had it right there and you 1170 01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:48.360 could have took a picture of it and compared it 1171 01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:51.519 to his teeth. No, what they did though, they cut 1172 01:04:51.559 --> 01:04:55.119 it out of the dead girl's ass. They put it 1173 01:04:55.159 --> 01:04:58.719 in a solution whoops, just happened to be acid. It 1174 01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:01.880 totally dissolved it. And they go to the prison they 1175 01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:04.719 make molds of Ted Bundy's teeth, and then they go 1176 01:05:04.840 --> 01:05:07.719 to the morgue and they press those teeth into the 1177 01:05:08.320 --> 01:05:11.599 butt cheeks of random dead people. Then they take a 1178 01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:14.599 picture of that. Then they took that to trial and said, look, 1179 01:05:15.039 --> 01:05:20.079 his teeth matched these bite marks. It has to be him. 1180 01:05:20.760 --> 01:05:23.639 Yeah, I would argue these investigators might have some necophiliacs. 1181 01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:31.760 Right what, they literally gave him the death penalty over 1182 01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:38.920 evidence that they created. Right, The fucking trial, So we 1183 01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:41.440 don't even know that Ted Bundy was in the fucking 1184 01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:48.079 house that night. I mean literally, you guys. And so 1185 01:05:49.239 --> 01:05:54.239 the last victim that they penned on him was a 1186 01:05:54.280 --> 01:05:58.800 twelve year old girl named Kimberly Leech. And for that 1187 01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:01.400 to have happened, he would have had it been in 1188 01:06:01.440 --> 01:06:03.480 two places at one time. He would have had been 1189 01:06:03.519 --> 01:06:08.719 in Tallahassee and this neighboring city where Kimberly was like 1190 01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:11.360 pretty much at the same time for those two things 1191 01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:15.679 to happen. And also Kimberly being twelve years old was 1192 01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:19.719 completely outside of his mo He had never murdered somebody 1193 01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:23.440 that young before. It was always like older women, So 1194 01:06:24.519 --> 01:06:28.000 I mean, it didn't make sense to me. Also, Kimberly 1195 01:06:28.119 --> 01:06:32.119 was completely drained of blood, which didn't match any of 1196 01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:33.360 the other victims. 1197 01:06:33.960 --> 01:06:37.199 Didn't They come out in a reason thing that moos 1198 01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:41.559 were not real like people that serial killers always debate 1199 01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:43.880 out of their mo And I have never believed that. 1200 01:06:44.159 --> 01:06:48.199 I think that they, especially like with like genuine serial killers, 1201 01:06:48.199 --> 01:06:50.840 they never kill outside of the racial line, outside of 1202 01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:51.639 their ethical line. 1203 01:06:52.199 --> 01:06:54.360 They always have a signature of some sort or whatever. 1204 01:06:54.599 --> 01:06:58.360 But I believe it years ago that there were I 1205 01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:01.960 guess MBI whatever statements saying that no serial killers debate 1206 01:07:02.039 --> 01:07:04.719 all the time, and I was that it was new 1207 01:07:04.719 --> 01:07:06.719 to me that they were going to incorporate that into 1208 01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:08.000 the profile forensics. 1209 01:07:08.400 --> 01:07:08.760 Forensic. 1210 01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:15.719 Yeah, I think the serial killer profiling is another syop. 1211 01:07:16.480 --> 01:07:20.480 Actually I think they have. Yeah. I mean, I think 1212 01:07:20.519 --> 01:07:22.280 that they came out with that shit to kind of 1213 01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:26.159 almost throw people off the trail so they weren't so 1214 01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:28.960 they wouldn't be looking for random shit, which I mean, 1215 01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:31.400 look at Henry Lee Lucas, if he really did all 1216 01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:34.480 that stuff, they were completely random and never the same. 1217 01:07:35.280 --> 01:07:39.679 And you know Ted too, and Ted in several interviews 1218 01:07:40.280 --> 01:07:44.400 said that there were multiple people involved. He said that 1219 01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:47.480 he said, there are multiple people involved. I'm not the 1220 01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:50.480 only one doing this, And girls continued to go missing 1221 01:07:50.559 --> 01:07:54.239 for several years after they locked Ted up. And by 1222 01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:56.960 the way, talking about what JJ was talking about earlier, 1223 01:07:57.199 --> 01:08:01.360 what are the chances this motherfucker success fully escapes prison 1224 01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:04.719 twice and then just so happens to like find a 1225 01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:07.679 log cabin in the woods filled with supplies and shit 1226 01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:09.880 that he would need to live for a couple of days. 1227 01:08:10.119 --> 01:08:12.519 And then the second time he just happened to find 1228 01:08:13.400 --> 01:08:17.119 a car, and then a bus ticket, then a plane ticket, 1229 01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:20.000 then a train ticket, and then I mean it's almost 1230 01:08:20.119 --> 01:08:24.800 by design that he's let back out if he really 1231 01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:29.960 is doing this stuff in the first place. But I mean, like, really, 1232 01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:32.439 you guys are talking about ass vampires. I'm not even 1233 01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:36.920 I'm not even going there, you guys. 1234 01:08:37.079 --> 01:08:38.960 I would say, as far as its changing moos and 1235 01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:42.319 the burying ems, but still having a signature, again, I 1236 01:08:42.399 --> 01:08:45.439 think everyone Edwards is a great example of that. He 1237 01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:49.319 definitely killed in various different fashions. He did do lovers lanes, 1238 01:08:49.960 --> 01:08:51.960 you know, shooting them Zodiac style. 1239 01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:54.359 He definitely said so. 1240 01:08:54.479 --> 01:08:56.520 The other thing he did Zodiac style was he would 1241 01:08:56.520 --> 01:08:59.319 set up other folks up for the murders. He would 1242 01:08:59.319 --> 01:09:02.840 build certain cases around folks. He would insert himself into 1243 01:09:02.840 --> 01:09:05.039 these folks lives. He would make he would make a 1244 01:09:05.159 --> 01:09:09.920 fake certificates of psychiatry, set up set up running office, 1245 01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:13.359 set up a shop as a fake psychiatrist, inserted himself 1246 01:09:13.359 --> 01:09:14.239 into folks lives. 1247 01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:16.479 So as far as like folks like Arthur. 1248 01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:19.760 Lee Allen and the Zodiac story like, he did it 1249 01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:24.000 because circumstantially that's actually his mo So that is the Ever, 1250 01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:29.239 when Edward's signature move is exactly that he actually testified 1251 01:09:29.239 --> 01:09:31.159 in some folks trials that he set up like that's 1252 01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:32.640 how deep dude went. 1253 01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:38.119 Well, you know, the the thing is, it's like it's 1254 01:09:38.239 --> 01:09:43.319 kind of like I think some authentic serial killers have iMOS, 1255 01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:46.479 and I think some don't that are working in groups, 1256 01:09:46.760 --> 01:09:50.399 and it's like maybe everybody has their own you know, 1257 01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:53.920 there's a there's a knife guy, and there's a gun guy, 1258 01:09:54.039 --> 01:09:57.319 and there's a a guy that likes to suffocate him, 1259 01:09:57.359 --> 01:09:59.399 and then there's so it always looks kind of like 1260 01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:03.840 random because it's it's different people doing this, you know 1261 01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:04.720 what I'm saying, Like. 1262 01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:07.159 I know exactly what you're saying. I almost look at 1263 01:10:07.159 --> 01:10:10.720 it like a different perspective. So like and again I 1264 01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:13.680 use everyone Edwards is the mold in which I shape 1265 01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:16.600 a lot of my conversations of serial killers on because 1266 01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:19.159 I've somebody I've studied a lot, you know, after reading 1267 01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:21.680 about the guy, I've done a lot of you know, studying, 1268 01:10:21.720 --> 01:10:24.399 studying the dude, how this dude's existed in life. I mean, 1269 01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:26.920 the guy went on a speaking of you know, like 1270 01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:31.079 Rodney al Kayla dating game serial killer. Everyone Edwards got 1271 01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:33.760 on the show to tell the truth, which and fooled 1272 01:10:33.800 --> 01:10:35.720 most of the folks on there. And this guy was 1273 01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:40.359 a very devious character. So anyway, he you know, as 1274 01:10:40.359 --> 01:10:41.760 far as not, I don't look at it necessarily as 1275 01:10:41.800 --> 01:10:44.840 the weapons used, necessarily the precise manner in which the 1276 01:10:45.119 --> 01:10:48.760 murders accomplished. For example, though the Zodiac wrote about in 1277 01:10:48.760 --> 01:10:51.119 one of his letters how he got his he got 1278 01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:57.399 his rocks off murdering folks, strangling people. Well, yeah, everyone, Edwards, 1279 01:10:57.439 --> 01:10:59.520 one of the murders he got busted for from DNA 1280 01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:03.600 evidence was seemen on a victim's genes that he literally 1281 01:11:03.640 --> 01:11:06.000 got his rocks off strangling this woman in Wisconsin. 1282 01:11:07.920 --> 01:11:10.239 So fucking And that's the thing. 1283 01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:12.039 That's kind of the way when I look at his 1284 01:11:12.199 --> 01:11:14.520 and that in that regard, its not necessarily like the 1285 01:11:14.600 --> 01:11:16.840 precise weapons, but you know that's that's the same kind 1286 01:11:16.840 --> 01:11:19.960 of tactic, right right, That is literally that was the thing, like. 1287 01:11:20.720 --> 01:11:22.960 Mm hm, Bundy, do that to one of them or 1288 01:11:23.119 --> 01:11:24.199 all of them or something? 1289 01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:34.359 Yeah, he yeah, yeah, Robin Williams, there's there's some there's 1290 01:11:34.399 --> 01:11:38.079 actually conspiracy theory about him. I forget what it is now, 1291 01:11:38.159 --> 01:11:44.479 but but so like Ted gets two death penalties and 1292 01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:48.439 he gets put in a cell. Right next to otis Toole, 1293 01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:53.199 who is also a programmed serial killer. So for me, 1294 01:11:53.399 --> 01:11:56.359 that's just like it's almost like a full circle moment 1295 01:11:56.479 --> 01:11:59.800 that they're one of their first projects, Henry Lee Lucas 1296 01:11:59.800 --> 01:12:03.079 and Otis Tool, right, and then all this these other 1297 01:12:03.159 --> 01:12:05.279 serial killers in the middle, and then you got Ted 1298 01:12:05.640 --> 01:12:08.000 who goes on death row right next to otis Tool. 1299 01:12:08.039 --> 01:12:11.359 They're they're like in the same cell block. Like really, it's. 1300 01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:13.600 Just it's weird to me. 1301 01:12:13.840 --> 01:12:16.199 Yeah, it's weird to me. Did we just slew somebody? 1302 01:12:18.199 --> 01:12:18.399 Yeah? 1303 01:12:18.399 --> 01:12:21.399 He had to get going, he texted me, Ah damn. 1304 01:12:22.960 --> 01:12:27.000 Well, what's your thoughts on Henrially Lucas getting clemency from 1305 01:12:27.039 --> 01:12:28.399 George George Bush number two? 1306 01:12:29.039 --> 01:12:32.000 Man, I think they're probably like long lost fucking cousins 1307 01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:35.960 or something. They're probably they're probably third cousins twice removed. 1308 01:12:36.600 --> 01:12:40.880 I swear to you used to cousin cousin Henry's house 1309 01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:41.560 when he was a child. 1310 01:12:41.760 --> 01:12:47.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah, because because Henry was uh he loved 1311 01:12:47.760 --> 01:12:51.520 the Texas Rangers and ship and it was just you know, 1312 01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:54.920 I don't know, did you guys watch True Detective that 1313 01:12:55.199 --> 01:12:59.039 this show True Detective that first season with Matthew McConaughey. Like, 1314 01:12:59.199 --> 01:13:01.600 think of the ending of that, right, how the guy 1315 01:13:01.640 --> 01:13:03.760 at the end is like cousins with like all the 1316 01:13:04.319 --> 01:13:07.600 people that we're doing all that. That's how I think 1317 01:13:07.640 --> 01:13:11.159 of Henry Lee Lucas. I think he was family. He 1318 01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:13.600 might have been the fucked up cousin that they kept 1319 01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:16.279 in the closet because he looked crazy, but I think 1320 01:13:16.279 --> 01:13:23.439 he could have been related. And yeah, I mean there's 1321 01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:28.000 so many theories floating around out there about like, uh, 1322 01:13:28.359 --> 01:13:35.439 what's her name? Bush Is Crowley's kid, Barbara Barbara. I 1323 01:13:35.479 --> 01:13:38.399 mean I think a lot of are related. 1324 01:13:38.479 --> 01:13:38.720 Man. 1325 01:13:38.920 --> 01:13:41.039 I think a lot of these higher up people have 1326 01:13:41.199 --> 01:13:46.319 family members. And and actually one of the Kennedy's nephews, 1327 01:13:47.479 --> 01:13:52.920 uh murdered a girl named Martha Moxley or Martha Mosley, 1328 01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:55.880 I can't remember her last name. But like just Peter 1329 01:13:56.000 --> 01:13:59.039 to death with a golf club and just nothing ever happened. 1330 01:13:59.119 --> 01:14:01.600 I mean you got to understand, like they will cover 1331 01:14:01.720 --> 01:14:05.760 this stuff up if it needs I don't think enough for. 1332 01:14:08.199 --> 01:14:10.079 I think they finally bust him as an adult. Yeah, 1333 01:14:10.159 --> 01:14:11.079 I think they bust them. 1334 01:14:11.039 --> 01:14:15.680 In the Martha's murder. I believe so well, that's great 1335 01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:16.279 if they did. 1336 01:14:17.239 --> 01:14:19.520 Mark Ferrman of all people, was involved in the private 1337 01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:21.479 investigation that helped turn that case over. 1338 01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:28.960 Well, hell yeah, because everybody the Nazi mm hmm. You 1339 01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:31.840 guys want to talk about Gaycy and Dahmer a little bit? 1340 01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:37.319 Yeah, sure, real quick. I just uh, it's the f 1341 01:14:37.359 --> 01:14:39.920 O g C. Lodge that I was talking about. It's 1342 01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:48.239 actually Preemsonic Order of the Golden Centurion they you talk about, Yeah, potentially, 1343 01:14:48.399 --> 01:14:51.000 Like when I was looking into them, they're just there. 1344 01:14:51.119 --> 01:14:53.079 They're Human Sacrifice. 1345 01:14:52.840 --> 01:14:58.640 Saturnying Lodge and apparently they're they're Freemasons too. Oh it's 1346 01:14:59.319 --> 01:15:01.640 an old lit so I'm not saying it's modern, but 1347 01:15:01.720 --> 01:15:04.000 when you look at into what they were doing and 1348 01:15:04.039 --> 01:15:05.000 the types of stuff. 1349 01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:11.600 Sure, guys, did you guys watch Peggy Sue Got Married. 1350 01:15:12.119 --> 01:15:14.319 It's like an old movie. It's got like Nicholas Cage 1351 01:15:14.359 --> 01:15:17.399 in it. She like goes back in time and they 1352 01:15:17.439 --> 01:15:20.000 literally have a hole Masonic. Oh god, you guys got 1353 01:15:20.119 --> 01:15:22.479 to watch it. I feel like I feel like Nicholas 1354 01:15:22.479 --> 01:15:25.079 Cage is into some shit. I really did. 1355 01:15:25.560 --> 01:15:26.920 He's got a movie production. 1356 01:15:28.479 --> 01:15:30.079 For sure, oh for sure. 1357 01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:36.119 But so getting on Gayy, I listened to this podcast. 1358 01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:38.560 It was called The Clown and the Candy Man, and 1359 01:15:38.760 --> 01:15:42.399 it linked Did you listen to it, Nick, Yes? Yeah, 1360 01:15:42.439 --> 01:15:44.640 all right, so you're gonna know what I'm talking about. 1361 01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:48.479 It linked John Wayne Gacy with this huge pedophile network 1362 01:15:48.560 --> 01:15:50.960 and this guy named Dean Coral who they call the 1363 01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:54.760 candy Man. And fucking people want to talk about Gaysey 1364 01:15:54.840 --> 01:15:56.840 having a high body count. I think he had thirty 1365 01:15:56.880 --> 01:16:00.720 three victims, is what they said, Gaysey. Well, Dean Dean 1366 01:16:00.800 --> 01:16:05.960 Coral had twenty seven was it or twenty eight? And 1367 01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:10.159 nobody knows who this guy is. He got all these boys, 1368 01:16:11.039 --> 01:16:14.439 tortured them to death, raped them, and then he buried 1369 01:16:14.600 --> 01:16:17.920 their bodies in his boat, shed twenty eight of them, 1370 01:16:18.239 --> 01:16:22.960 and nobody talks about this guy. And he said he 1371 01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:26.119 told his accomplices that he was part of a larger 1372 01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:30.439 pedophile network that was working out of Dallas, and so 1373 01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:34.960 did John Wayne Gacy. And they actually had common associates. 1374 01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:41.399 Was Philip Paskal. Yeah, So Philip Pasky was working with 1375 01:16:41.439 --> 01:16:44.560 Dean Coral and Philip Pasky was working with John Wayne Gacy. 1376 01:16:45.199 --> 01:16:48.600 And now here's the thing, just like with Ted Bundy, 1377 01:16:48.880 --> 01:16:52.840 there are some victims that are attributed to Gaysey that 1378 01:16:52.880 --> 01:16:56.159 he wasn't even he was fucking out of town, fucking 1379 01:16:56.319 --> 01:17:00.079 miles away when these people got abducted, but yet they 1380 01:17:00.239 --> 01:17:04.439 considered Gaysey victims. And I think that Gaysey could have 1381 01:17:04.479 --> 01:17:07.479 been something like a finisher kind of guy, like where 1382 01:17:07.520 --> 01:17:10.439 these other pedophiles would have their fun and then bring 1383 01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:13.520 them back to Gaysey to finish them, because there's no 1384 01:17:13.640 --> 01:17:16.479 way he could have abducted all of them. He was 1385 01:17:16.520 --> 01:17:21.079 in construction, he was on out of town projects when 1386 01:17:21.079 --> 01:17:24.039 a lot of these kids went missing, And it just 1387 01:17:24.119 --> 01:17:27.079 doesn't make sense whatsoever. It's like you guys were saying 1388 01:17:27.119 --> 01:17:30.119 he was political. He has a picture of himself with 1389 01:17:30.199 --> 01:17:34.319 one of the first ladies. He said that there were 1390 01:17:34.359 --> 01:17:38.479 other people involved, but nobody likes to talk about that shit. 1391 01:17:38.680 --> 01:17:42.159 Just like Berkowitz, there are other people involved. Bundy said 1392 01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:44.800 it too, there are other people involved, but we just 1393 01:17:45.119 --> 01:17:48.039 like it's like literally like we won't hear that. It 1394 01:17:48.159 --> 01:17:51.159 has to be just him. I mean, I don't know 1395 01:17:51.159 --> 01:17:53.000 what do you guys think about. Do you are you 1396 01:17:53.079 --> 01:17:56.079 familiar with this dean choral guy? Oh? 1397 01:17:56.159 --> 01:17:58.680 Yeah, yeah, I believe it was also a connection with 1398 01:17:58.720 --> 01:18:01.720 those same fellas in a brown of the Yonkers tale 1399 01:18:02.199 --> 01:18:05.680 was son of Sam, the pedophile guy who was running 1400 01:18:05.720 --> 01:18:09.359 kids through Times Square, but was the local camp Yonkers. 1401 01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:11.960 Well, and then there and then there's like the colonel 1402 01:18:12.039 --> 01:18:16.800 guy that's talked about with Gacy. But then there's the 1403 01:18:16.920 --> 01:18:20.560 colonel that's also talked about with the Franklin scandal. 1404 01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:21.800 Michael Yeah. 1405 01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:23.199 And then the guy that. 1406 01:18:23.920 --> 01:18:28.880 Was involved with the Gaysey one lived in Colorado. The 1407 01:18:28.920 --> 01:18:32.920 one with the Franklin scandal lived in Colorado and Buena Vista, 1408 01:18:33.640 --> 01:18:37.399 and he had a house near a place called Elephant Rock, 1409 01:18:40.359 --> 01:18:44.560 and that's all talked about like with the Franklin scandal. 1410 01:18:44.600 --> 01:18:48.319 But then also there's a colonel that's involved with the 1411 01:18:48.319 --> 01:18:49.920 the John Wayne Gacy murders. 1412 01:18:50.640 --> 01:18:54.840 And then you know Paul Banassi, the guy with seventeen personalities. 1413 01:18:54.880 --> 01:18:58.520 He's he's one of the first ones that's identified Michael 1414 01:18:58.520 --> 01:19:01.560 Lochino as the colonel. So I mean, I think there 1415 01:19:01.560 --> 01:19:07.039 are definitely ties there. And there was another guy they 1416 01:19:07.039 --> 01:19:09.520 brought up in that podcast I listened to with Dean 1417 01:19:09.560 --> 01:19:12.720 Coral and John Wayne Gacy. His name was like something Sherman, 1418 01:19:13.560 --> 01:19:17.039 I think, uh, but he had one of the first 1419 01:19:17.079 --> 01:19:20.439 pedifarmen I think John normOn was he the one that. 1420 01:19:20.359 --> 01:19:23.199 Had that's the one that I think that was the 1421 01:19:23.239 --> 01:19:23.760 one that passed. 1422 01:19:23.800 --> 01:19:28.520 He might have connected him with, yes, because they were 1423 01:19:28.520 --> 01:19:30.479 both in jail together Isle Island. 1424 01:19:30.760 --> 01:19:32.239 They were both in jail together. 1425 01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:34.520 And they supposedly, I don't know how truthful this is, 1426 01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:37.079 because this is a little bullsy. They were printing out 1427 01:19:37.159 --> 01:19:40.840 like this their newsletter that they were still Basically. 1428 01:19:42.880 --> 01:19:46.119 It was like a like a fucking catalog for petos. 1429 01:19:46.399 --> 01:19:52.000 Yeah, and I know their preferences and all that, like yes, yes, yeah. 1430 01:19:52.079 --> 01:19:55.159 And one of the sons of like a what wasn't 1431 01:19:55.199 --> 01:19:58.439 it like a GM executive was wrapped up in one 1432 01:19:58.439 --> 01:20:01.479 of these pedophilowerings. I mean, you guys, it goes so deep. 1433 01:20:02.199 --> 01:20:03.840 The king and they're all connected. 1434 01:20:03.920 --> 01:20:04.199 Man. 1435 01:20:04.359 --> 01:20:06.279 In that podcast, I was one of the most shocking 1436 01:20:06.880 --> 01:20:07.960 ahead and I. 1437 01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:10.960 Think I may have played we actually when we covered Gaysey, 1438 01:20:11.039 --> 01:20:13.479 we actually did use that podcast to pull some stuff 1439 01:20:13.479 --> 01:20:16.640 out of and I might have actually taken samples of 1440 01:20:16.680 --> 01:20:19.239 the cops that even said if you were to see 1441 01:20:19.279 --> 01:20:22.079 some of the names that were in these things, it 1442 01:20:22.119 --> 01:20:23.880 was you wouldn't believe it. 1443 01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:24.600 That's what they said. 1444 01:20:24.600 --> 01:20:26.560 It was right, people's names. You'd be like, oh my god, 1445 01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:27.399 I cannot believe this. 1446 01:20:28.720 --> 01:20:34.279 Yeah, well, Gaysey was supposedly involved in the United States 1447 01:20:34.399 --> 01:20:39.079 Junior Chamber the j's, the j c's. 1448 01:20:39.479 --> 01:20:39.800 And. 1449 01:20:41.640 --> 01:20:44.960 A little interesting is they have for me personally. They 1450 01:20:45.039 --> 01:20:49.119 have an annual party every year called this the Stag 1451 01:20:50.279 --> 01:20:54.239 and supposedly Gasey used those Stag parties to kind of 1452 01:20:54.279 --> 01:20:56.680 like get people in this. 1453 01:20:58.319 --> 01:20:59.960 Group with the cards and everything. 1454 01:21:00.640 --> 01:21:03.399 Well, and then one of the j c's, like the 1455 01:21:03.600 --> 01:21:07.479 one of the higher up guys, Gacy, sodomized his son 1456 01:21:07.600 --> 01:21:10.560 and that was the first charge he ever got. So 1457 01:21:10.800 --> 01:21:14.239 it's like, you know, you hear about how they they 1458 01:21:14.319 --> 01:21:18.479 let they do these things to blackmail politicians and shit, 1459 01:21:18.520 --> 01:21:20.640 and it's like, what are the chances that John Wayne 1460 01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:24.840 Gacy's in this jc's club and then one of the 1461 01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:28.960 fucking guy's kids gets sodomized And it's like, oh, well, 1462 01:21:29.079 --> 01:21:31.840 you know, that was just totally random. We don't know 1463 01:21:31.880 --> 01:21:33.720 how that happened, Like how do you get a hold 1464 01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:37.159 of this kid and for that long period of time 1465 01:21:37.239 --> 01:21:40.159 and then like, I don't know, you guys, it just 1466 01:21:40.239 --> 01:21:43.119 it seems like all of this is so interconnected and 1467 01:21:43.159 --> 01:21:47.920 there's such a spider web and it's it's actually the 1468 01:21:48.079 --> 01:21:52.880 same with uh, the John Benet case, I believe because 1469 01:21:53.279 --> 01:21:55.600 I talked about it with Nick before a long time ago. 1470 01:21:55.640 --> 01:21:57.319 I don't know what was that Nick, a year ago 1471 01:21:57.479 --> 01:22:02.920 or something. There's these larger pedophile rings that operate and 1472 01:22:03.720 --> 01:22:10.439 you know these wonderlate what is it, Wonderland raids. We're 1473 01:22:10.600 --> 01:22:13.439 going down and they found a bunch of people with 1474 01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:16.560 pictures of John Beney on their computer and shit. So 1475 01:22:16.840 --> 01:22:22.840 it's like John Benet's dad was running that Access Graphics company. 1476 01:22:24.079 --> 01:22:26.520 The name itself, I feel like, is a dead giveaway. 1477 01:22:26.960 --> 01:22:30.600 But Dave McGowan links John Benay in with all this 1478 01:22:30.640 --> 01:22:33.159 other shit and program to kill. I mean, you guys 1479 01:22:33.159 --> 01:22:35.359 got to read that book if you get a chance, 1480 01:22:35.399 --> 01:22:39.439 because like, even the chapter on John Benay is fucking wild, dude, 1481 01:22:40.119 --> 01:22:44.279 It's wild, and he pretty much links what happened to 1482 01:22:44.359 --> 01:22:48.199 John Benay in with what happens with all these pedophile rings, 1483 01:22:48.960 --> 01:22:53.439 and a Dahmer is the only one I will say 1484 01:22:53.640 --> 01:22:56.960 is probably an authentic serial killer. You guys can disagree 1485 01:22:56.960 --> 01:22:59.439 with me. I do think he had help, I do 1486 01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:02.399 think he was trained, but I think he's one of 1487 01:23:02.439 --> 01:23:05.399 the only ones that I will say may have been 1488 01:23:05.600 --> 01:23:08.720 an authentic serial killer. And I kind of wanted to 1489 01:23:09.279 --> 01:23:11.640 wrap up with some stuff on dahm Er unless you 1490 01:23:11.680 --> 01:23:14.079 guys had anything else you wanted to add. 1491 01:23:14.720 --> 01:23:17.159 I wanted to add something real quick on the jump 1492 01:23:17.159 --> 01:23:21.880 in a uh, Supposedly there's this lodge or this like 1493 01:23:23.279 --> 01:23:25.439 I guess like a cult group and they're they're near 1494 01:23:26.039 --> 01:23:31.119 where me and Mike live, and there's some rumor that 1495 01:23:31.119 --> 01:23:35.680 that that that her murder is tied to this weird 1496 01:23:36.119 --> 01:23:38.159 like a cult lodge, and it's kind of like a 1497 01:23:38.319 --> 01:23:42.399 really it's like a Blovotsky like New Age kind of thing. 1498 01:23:43.319 --> 01:23:46.640 And then it's it's where the Emerald tablets come from 1499 01:23:46.880 --> 01:23:50.600 and where the Ben Carson guy that keeps talking about 1500 01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:53.079 he got it from this guy and his name is 1501 01:23:53.119 --> 01:23:59.760 like doctor doctor doriel Ooh yeah, and there's some connection 1502 01:23:59.800 --> 01:24:03.239 with Benet and like supposedly Keno and. 1503 01:24:03.279 --> 01:24:06.159 This place, Oh my god. 1504 01:24:08.119 --> 01:24:10.720 Yes, Night's templar. 1505 01:24:11.359 --> 01:24:17.279 Doctor's name. It's A D O R E A L. 1506 01:24:19.880 --> 01:24:21.840 I think it's the Brotherhood of the White Temple. 1507 01:24:22.720 --> 01:24:24.399 Interesting, Yeah, I doe that interesting. 1508 01:24:25.359 --> 01:24:27.720 You guys got to listen to my John Bennet stuff 1509 01:24:27.840 --> 01:24:32.159 that I did. Two I did just like a solo 1510 01:24:32.279 --> 01:24:35.800 episode on it, and then I did one with Nick obviously, 1511 01:24:36.199 --> 01:24:41.079 but uh there that story goes deep and there's a 1512 01:24:41.079 --> 01:24:47.880 lot of information, and I uh, I did think that 1513 01:24:48.399 --> 01:24:50.880 Dave McGowan did a pretty good job in Program to 1514 01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:53.319 Kill kind of talking about what he thought happened with 1515 01:24:53.439 --> 01:24:56.279 John Beney, and it's it's like anything else. I just 1516 01:24:56.439 --> 01:24:59.560 I don't think that the mainstream narrative even comes close 1517 01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:05.439 to giving anybody the truth about that. And she'll probably 1518 01:25:05.479 --> 01:25:09.640 never see justice because that's just how it is. And 1519 01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:14.439 you know, John Ramsey, the dad, his older daughter died 1520 01:25:14.520 --> 01:25:17.000 weird too, so this would have would have been his 1521 01:25:17.159 --> 01:25:20.600 second dead kid. And the little brother, Burke, is all 1522 01:25:20.640 --> 01:25:23.840 but a basket case and they've got his ass on 1523 01:25:23.920 --> 01:25:27.760 doctor Phil and I watched the interview and it's like, 1524 01:25:27.880 --> 01:25:29.520 is this fucking real life right now? 1525 01:25:29.600 --> 01:25:29.840 Dude? 1526 01:25:30.439 --> 01:25:36.640 Like he it's just cartoonish almost watching this guy. And 1527 01:25:36.640 --> 01:25:39.079 and he's like, have you ever read the ransom note? 1528 01:25:39.159 --> 01:25:42.399 You know, when they kidnapped your little sister? And he's like, 1529 01:25:42.840 --> 01:25:48.239 ransom note, ha, and he's like laughing, he's laughing. I mean, 1530 01:25:48.319 --> 01:25:50.680 it's just you guys. 1531 01:25:51.439 --> 01:25:52.600 Ties into a hunter. 1532 01:25:52.720 --> 01:25:56.720 S Thompson too with yeah, I mean that guy was 1533 01:25:56.800 --> 01:25:59.479 up there. He had a golden ticket to do whatever 1534 01:25:59.520 --> 01:26:01.880 he wants. So I have families that lived up there 1535 01:26:01.960 --> 01:26:05.439 during the same time he you kept away from him. 1536 01:26:05.520 --> 01:26:09.159 He had a golden passage, shoot guns, as much dope 1537 01:26:09.199 --> 01:26:11.920 as you could possibly imagine, and there were stars in 1538 01:26:11.960 --> 01:26:14.520 and out of that place, and the rumors of what 1539 01:26:14.560 --> 01:26:16.479 he was doing up there is very dark. 1540 01:26:17.119 --> 01:26:19.079 Dude, have you heard that he raped his cat? 1541 01:26:20.439 --> 01:26:22.439 No? I didn't. I believe it. 1542 01:26:22.479 --> 01:26:31.840 Man, what for sheriff? 1543 01:26:33.159 --> 01:26:35.840 Yeah, dude, that Hunter s Thompson raped his. 1544 01:26:36.279 --> 01:26:42.000 Cat and he ran and was very tied into politics. 1545 01:26:42.359 --> 01:26:43.359 It brings a whole. 1546 01:26:43.159 --> 01:26:45.439 New meaning to get in some pussy's. 1547 01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:48.039 Here's a Hunter s Thompson fun fact. He used to 1548 01:26:48.079 --> 01:26:50.600 be the security guard for the Eslam Institute when it 1549 01:26:50.680 --> 01:26:54.039 first started. He lived on the site there and guarded 1550 01:26:54.079 --> 01:26:54.640 the grounds. 1551 01:26:55.840 --> 01:26:58.880 So only wants to do an episode just on Hunter 1552 01:26:59.079 --> 01:27:02.680 because he's a whole But go ahead, Sorry, no, no, 1553 01:27:02.920 --> 01:27:05.520 go ahead? Finished, No, that's it. Go ahead. 1554 01:27:06.880 --> 01:27:08.560 So some of these, some of these. 1555 01:27:08.920 --> 01:27:13.640 Major characters or players that kind of were instrumental into 1556 01:27:13.680 --> 01:27:18.039 the foundation of Eslon uh, some of the experimentations that 1557 01:27:18.079 --> 01:27:21.600 went on in Stanford and so forth. They all got 1558 01:27:21.600 --> 01:27:24.640 their start in Los Alamos, they were kids of families 1559 01:27:24.680 --> 01:27:28.560 that were dropped there. I believe the actual school for 1560 01:27:28.680 --> 01:27:32.560 boys or something was started by Oppenheim Ramat entirely certain, 1561 01:27:33.199 --> 01:27:36.279 but they they all kind of started the whole you know, 1562 01:27:36.359 --> 01:27:40.159 programming or being indoctrinated there, and then they move on 1563 01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:43.439 to Los Angeles, and then we have all of this 1564 01:27:43.800 --> 01:27:48.560 further indoctrination where most of the kids were children of 1565 01:27:49.079 --> 01:27:53.359 parents who were indoctrinated themselves. What I find interesting is 1566 01:27:53.439 --> 01:27:55.880 a couple of things is so, you know, going back 1567 01:27:55.920 --> 01:27:59.760 to the Kate and La Bianca murders, is that nobody 1568 01:27:59.760 --> 01:28:05.000 ever brings up Frank Sinatra in that Pharaoh, him and 1569 01:28:05.520 --> 01:28:08.239 Mia Farah were on the rope so bad. He wanted 1570 01:28:08.239 --> 01:28:11.920 her to leave Rosemary's Baby and he would show up 1571 01:28:12.039 --> 01:28:16.159 unannounced because he knew that Roan Polanski had a thing 1572 01:28:16.199 --> 01:28:17.920 for Mia Pharaoh. 1573 01:28:17.279 --> 01:28:20.279 And he would remake. He would make Mia Pharaoh do 1574 01:28:20.880 --> 01:28:24.000 the sex scenes over and over and over, and especially 1575 01:28:24.039 --> 01:28:26.479 when Fank Sinatra was on scene, he would do it. 1576 01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:31.520 So he served divorce papers to Mia Faraoh on Rosemary's Baby, 1577 01:28:31.720 --> 01:28:35.880 and the entire Rosemary's Baby theme or whatever is pretty 1578 01:28:35.920 --> 01:28:39.600 much what I guess you could say is, you know, 1579 01:28:39.760 --> 01:28:43.359 Sharon Tate's faith right or so forth. One of the 1580 01:28:43.359 --> 01:28:46.960 things that you look at Frank Sinatra, he had a 1581 01:28:47.079 --> 01:28:50.880 huge following and one of his major major fans was 1582 01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:54.880 a Krina and yet nobody talks about that, you know, 1583 01:28:54.920 --> 01:28:58.640 and how he was absolutely obsessed with Frank Sinatra. And 1584 01:28:58.680 --> 01:29:00.479 then know that then. 1585 01:29:02.439 --> 01:29:07.399 We have a lot of attribute attributing crimes to Aquino Aquino, 1586 01:29:07.479 --> 01:29:11.199 sorry Aquino and Frank Sinatra kind of just like dissolves 1587 01:29:11.239 --> 01:29:13.680 out and the thing. And we had talked like with SFKA, 1588 01:29:14.239 --> 01:29:17.079 how you have these traveling bands and they can go anywhere. 1589 01:29:17.119 --> 01:29:19.359 And however he has ties to the mob. 1590 01:29:19.880 --> 01:29:24.680 There there were alleged, alleged rumors that he was kind 1591 01:29:24.680 --> 01:29:28.239 of a hit guy for other people. He did pay 1592 01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:31.680 for the funeral of Sammy Davis, so he was part 1593 01:29:31.760 --> 01:29:34.079 of these things. And we do know that most of 1594 01:29:34.119 --> 01:29:37.520 these people belong to secret societies, secret societies that have 1595 01:29:37.600 --> 01:29:41.319 all kind of started, whether it was in Europe, but 1596 01:29:41.600 --> 01:29:44.880 a lot of them in California. And one of the 1597 01:29:44.920 --> 01:29:47.319 main interesting things is that if you take I ten 1598 01:29:48.159 --> 01:29:51.840 from Dallas to sent to Los Angeles, you get six 1599 01:29:51.920 --> 01:29:54.159 hundred and sixteen miles. And I believe that is the 1600 01:29:54.199 --> 01:29:57.279 real number of the Beast and right smaximware dab in 1601 01:29:57.279 --> 01:29:59.920 the middle is Los Alamos, and so nobody really may 1602 01:30:00.159 --> 01:30:03.199 those connections. And I always thought that that good that 1603 01:30:03.359 --> 01:30:05.319 you know, it's one of those things that's kind of 1604 01:30:05.560 --> 01:30:06.159 in the periphery. 1605 01:30:06.159 --> 01:30:08.680 You can't really make anything of it, but it's there. 1606 01:30:09.239 --> 01:30:10.840 And so yeah, are. 1607 01:30:10.840 --> 01:30:16.600 You guys familiar with the Lookout Mountain Laboratory at all? Okay, well, 1608 01:30:16.640 --> 01:30:19.439 you know who had top secret secret clearance to that 1609 01:30:19.520 --> 01:30:25.000 bitch was like Marilyn Monroe, Frank Sinatra president. Yeah, so 1610 01:30:25.119 --> 01:30:28.079 it's like you were saying that it is a secret club. 1611 01:30:28.680 --> 01:30:31.279 So do you really say that motherfucker's last name Aquino? 1612 01:30:31.840 --> 01:30:32.439 Is that is? 1613 01:30:32.840 --> 01:30:33.640 I don't I don't know. 1614 01:30:34.079 --> 01:30:35.720 Is it a Quino or is it a Kino? 1615 01:30:36.840 --> 01:30:43.199 Actual potato asshole. 1616 01:30:43.399 --> 01:30:45.199 Yeah, I was gonna say I might have been saying 1617 01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:46.319 it wrong this whole time. 1618 01:30:46.359 --> 01:30:54.079 I don't know, but there's something that ties in a Queeno. 1619 01:30:55.119 --> 01:30:56.359 I don't know. I don't know how to say it. 1620 01:30:57.119 --> 01:30:59.600 No me neither that ties into the. 1621 01:30:59.479 --> 01:31:06.039 Whole because how he has the widow's peak, going Mickey 1622 01:31:06.039 --> 01:31:10.720 Mouse into Mickey Mouse, and on Rosemary's Baby she ends 1623 01:31:10.800 --> 01:31:13.000 up getting Druggs by slipp being slipped to. 1624 01:31:13.000 --> 01:31:15.199 Mickey right and so. 1625 01:31:17.359 --> 01:31:22.920 Wearing as well, almost as a nod to knowing what 1626 01:31:23.119 --> 01:31:25.399 happened with the murders. 1627 01:31:25.479 --> 01:31:30.239 And Sammy Davis and a Quino they're both in the 1628 01:31:30.319 --> 01:31:32.119 Church of Satan at the exact same time. 1629 01:31:32.199 --> 01:31:32.640 Bays Ago. 1630 01:31:32.800 --> 01:31:37.119 Absolutely are they a whole rat pack was dabbling and Satanism, 1631 01:31:37.439 --> 01:31:38.640 if you will, and. 1632 01:31:38.600 --> 01:31:41.880 They were all they were all members of secret societies, 1633 01:31:41.920 --> 01:31:43.800 all of the rap pack. It may not be the 1634 01:31:43.840 --> 01:31:46.119 same secret society, but they were all members of a 1635 01:31:46.159 --> 01:31:48.720 secret society for sure. 1636 01:31:48.880 --> 01:31:52.319 That's so fucked, you know, I mean, it's the sad truth. 1637 01:31:52.399 --> 01:31:58.159 But I so that's why I think we should get 1638 01:31:58.159 --> 01:32:00.800 the same group together to go over Laura Canyon stuff, 1639 01:32:00.800 --> 01:32:03.079 because it's so interconnected. I mean, if you're going to 1640 01:32:03.119 --> 01:32:05.079 talk about one, you almost have to bring up the 1641 01:32:05.119 --> 01:32:08.159 other because it's like the Lookout Mountain Laboratory thing. All 1642 01:32:08.239 --> 01:32:12.039 these assholes were had top secret clearance. I've done like 1643 01:32:12.119 --> 01:32:16.199 three episodes on Marilyn Monroe and how she was definitely 1644 01:32:16.800 --> 01:32:23.199 not fucking unliving herself. And it's I don't know if 1645 01:32:23.199 --> 01:32:27.720 you guys have nine to five jobs or whatever where 1646 01:32:27.720 --> 01:32:29.840 you can listen to podcasts, but if you have a chance, 1647 01:32:30.319 --> 01:32:33.880 listen to what I put together on Maryland, because man, 1648 01:32:34.199 --> 01:32:38.600 it's clearly blatantly obvious, just with scientific evidence alone and 1649 01:32:38.640 --> 01:32:42.159 no conspiracy stuff, that she did not commit suicide. I 1650 01:32:42.159 --> 01:32:44.600 don't even have to take it to a conspiratorial level. 1651 01:32:44.840 --> 01:32:47.760 I can just show you autopsy report findings and prove 1652 01:32:47.840 --> 01:32:50.399 to you that she didn't kill herself. So, I mean, 1653 01:32:50.479 --> 01:32:54.800 it's just but they're so good at selling you mainstream narratives. 1654 01:32:54.840 --> 01:32:57.399 I did it on Tinfoil Hat even I went on 1655 01:32:57.520 --> 01:33:00.760 and talked about Marilyn Monroe because it's like, it's crazy 1656 01:33:00.800 --> 01:33:02.760 the amount of stuff that's out there that you can 1657 01:33:02.800 --> 01:33:05.920 find that proved that she could not have committed suicide. 1658 01:33:05.920 --> 01:33:08.279 But nobody wants to talk about that. They'd rather make 1659 01:33:08.359 --> 01:33:12.960 seventeen documentaries about her on Netflix about how depressed she 1660 01:33:13.199 --> 01:33:16.720 was and like, oh, she had a hard life, and dude, 1661 01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:21.880 she is a programmed, multiple fucking monarch. You know that 1662 01:33:22.239 --> 01:33:25.479 she's a sex kitten like that. This is the really 1663 01:33:25.600 --> 01:33:31.760 shit in I just I think that people are just 1664 01:33:31.840 --> 01:33:35.479 fall so easily for whatever they put out there. I 1665 01:33:35.520 --> 01:33:38.479 don't know, I don't know who Tracy Twieman is. 1666 01:33:39.880 --> 01:33:42.479 Look, how about Jane Jane Mansfield. 1667 01:33:43.279 --> 01:33:47.279 Oh yeah, that's another one. Hey, there didn't Anton Levey 1668 01:33:47.439 --> 01:33:50.720 have like some dedication in his Satanic Bible to Jane 1669 01:33:50.920 --> 01:33:56.279 Mansfield and Tuesday Welled Marilyn Monroe. 1670 01:33:56.399 --> 01:33:59.199 But he put a curse on the guy and he 1671 01:33:59.520 --> 01:34:02.000 didn't he didn't want her. He told her to not 1672 01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:05.520 basically ride with him in the vehicle or whatever. 1673 01:34:06.399 --> 01:34:06.960 Uh huh. 1674 01:34:07.000 --> 01:34:10.359 And basically that was the invention of the Mansfield but 1675 01:34:10.840 --> 01:34:16.119 the man, yeah, the Mansfield bar on trailers for semis. 1676 01:34:16.399 --> 01:34:18.920 Well, I don't want to get too far off on 1677 01:34:19.000 --> 01:34:21.600 a tangent. I don't know how you guys feel about 1678 01:34:22.239 --> 01:34:28.600 the the the conspiracy that Paul McCartney was killed, the 1679 01:34:28.680 --> 01:34:31.439 real one in a car accident and replaced by another dude. 1680 01:34:31.520 --> 01:34:35.479 But they have Jane Mansfield on the Yellow Submarine album cover, 1681 01:34:37.039 --> 01:34:40.560 and there's all this other really weird symbolism on the 1682 01:34:40.720 --> 01:34:43.239 Yellow Submarine. Not the Yellow Submarine. Was it. 1683 01:34:45.239 --> 01:34:46.600 Pepper's maybe Sergeant Pepper. 1684 01:34:46.760 --> 01:34:50.279 Sergeant Pepper. Yeah, where they're all standing above a grave. 1685 01:34:51.399 --> 01:34:54.960 So one of the faces in the background is Jane Mansfield. 1686 01:34:55.039 --> 01:34:57.239 And they do say that the real Paul was killed 1687 01:34:57.239 --> 01:35:01.159 in a car accident, you know, very man Field esque 1688 01:35:01.359 --> 01:35:03.920 and you know, was replaced by this other guy to 1689 01:35:04.119 --> 01:35:09.279 like contest, right, Yeah, and whoever replaced Paul, I approve 1690 01:35:09.439 --> 01:35:12.319 because the motherfucker was talented and he wrote some great 1691 01:35:12.359 --> 01:35:14.439 songs and he did a lot of great work, and 1692 01:35:15.560 --> 01:35:18.479 you know, thumbs up to that guy whoever replaced him. 1693 01:35:18.560 --> 01:35:21.359 But they I did find that interesting that they snuck 1694 01:35:22.239 --> 01:35:25.640 Jane Mansfield in that album cover. You know, it could 1695 01:35:25.720 --> 01:35:29.119 be one of those candy conspiracy theories, but I think 1696 01:35:29.199 --> 01:35:33.199 that it was interesting they included that. But Crowley's on 1697 01:35:33.199 --> 01:35:36.479 that cover too, Yeah, shut your mouth. 1698 01:35:39.239 --> 01:35:40.079 In the background. 1699 01:35:40.199 --> 01:35:47.279 Yeah, he's allegedly Sergeant Peppery rock and roll twenty years 1700 01:35:47.319 --> 01:35:50.239 ago today, that'd have been forty seven versus sixty seven. 1701 01:35:51.119 --> 01:35:51.319 Right. 1702 01:35:52.119 --> 01:35:55.680 Well, and there's all that stuff about who is the Walrus, 1703 01:35:55.680 --> 01:36:01.239 And we talked about Lewis Carolyn the last episode being 1704 01:36:01.239 --> 01:36:04.600 a huge peto and then you know John Lennon was 1705 01:36:04.640 --> 01:36:08.119 obsessed with him, and they had all this Walrus imagery 1706 01:36:08.439 --> 01:36:13.800 the Beatles did, and the walruses Paul who might be 1707 01:36:13.920 --> 01:36:17.119 dead and replaced by lookalike. So you never know. 1708 01:36:18.359 --> 01:36:24.000 When speaking of like Mansfield, leavey isn't Jane Mansfield Murska 1709 01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:27.600 Hardegay's mother, the actress from Lawn Order. 1710 01:36:27.720 --> 01:36:31.680 Oh you're right from Law and Order, right, yeah, yeah, 1711 01:36:31.920 --> 01:36:37.319 And like she's a huge Swiftie, Taylor Swift fan, and 1712 01:36:37.399 --> 01:36:42.079 you know who, Taylor Swift looks exactly like cina Ella 1713 01:36:42.199 --> 01:36:44.039 may Els. 1714 01:36:47.439 --> 01:36:50.119 Let's bring it all the way back to the Laurel Canyon. 1715 01:36:50.319 --> 01:36:54.840 Isn't Anton Levey in the cover of Hotel California as well? 1716 01:36:56.000 --> 01:36:56.239 Yeah? 1717 01:36:59.359 --> 01:37:02.279 Yeah, yeah, so now we brought it all the way 1718 01:37:02.319 --> 01:37:05.279 full circle back to the canyon my favorite thing to do. 1719 01:37:07.960 --> 01:37:10.760 But yeah, so I wanted to kind of wrap up 1720 01:37:10.800 --> 01:37:13.399 with Dahmer if you guys are down to talk some 1721 01:37:13.600 --> 01:37:14.520 Dahmer really. 1722 01:37:14.359 --> 01:37:16.479 Quick, all right. 1723 01:37:17.119 --> 01:37:21.000 So Dahmer, I think that he was fucked up since 1724 01:37:21.000 --> 01:37:25.439 he was a child. I think that there could possibly 1725 01:37:25.560 --> 01:37:28.800 be tests that they give to children in school and 1726 01:37:28.840 --> 01:37:32.239 shit where they can pick out potential psychopaths. In my opinion, 1727 01:37:32.800 --> 01:37:37.039 because for some reason, Jeff has like weird stuff that 1728 01:37:37.199 --> 01:37:40.840 happened while he was even in high school. Like on 1729 01:37:40.880 --> 01:37:44.479 his senior class trip, they went to Washington and he 1730 01:37:44.640 --> 01:37:47.800 makes some type of like anomalost phone call that we 1731 01:37:47.920 --> 01:37:49.840 don't know who he called or how he got the 1732 01:37:49.840 --> 01:37:52.920 phone number, but he was able to arrange a private 1733 01:37:53.039 --> 01:37:55.960 tour of the White House for him and all of 1734 01:37:55.960 --> 01:38:00.159 his classmates in his senior on his senior trip. He 1735 01:38:00.239 --> 01:38:03.199 knows who he called. Nobody knows how he was able 1736 01:38:03.239 --> 01:38:06.079 to get that set up. But like I said, I 1737 01:38:06.119 --> 01:38:08.960 think jeff was an authentic serial killer. I think they 1738 01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:11.920 had him picked out from an early age. I don't 1739 01:38:11.960 --> 01:38:15.600 know what his connections were. He got some private trip 1740 01:38:15.640 --> 01:38:18.479 around the White House for him and all of his friends, 1741 01:38:19.119 --> 01:38:23.479 and then he later goes on and comes military. And 1742 01:38:23.840 --> 01:38:26.359 while he's in the military, this is something that I 1743 01:38:26.600 --> 01:38:28.840 just found out that a lot of people don't talk about. 1744 01:38:29.159 --> 01:38:32.920 There are two Jeffrey Dahmer victims that survived that he 1745 01:38:33.039 --> 01:38:37.319 was in the military with in Germany. And one of 1746 01:38:37.359 --> 01:38:40.960 them's name is Preston Davis and the other one's name 1747 01:38:41.239 --> 01:38:46.319 is Billy Chapman, I believe, and they both talk about 1748 01:38:46.359 --> 01:38:50.399 getting drugged and brutally raped and tortured by Jeffrey Dahmer, 1749 01:38:50.840 --> 01:38:55.039 but he didn't kill them. And this was all in 1750 01:38:55.159 --> 01:38:58.560 Germany while he was in the military. And the one guy, 1751 01:38:58.680 --> 01:39:03.199 Billy Chapman, he got a rape kit done and he 1752 01:39:03.279 --> 01:39:05.520 went to go get the results of the rape kit 1753 01:39:05.720 --> 01:39:09.760 and said Jeffrey Dahmer raped me and all, oh, sorry 1754 01:39:09.880 --> 01:39:12.680 lost the results. We don't, we can't, we don't know 1755 01:39:12.680 --> 01:39:16.840 where they are. And so these two guys have been 1756 01:39:17.119 --> 01:39:20.359 screaming at the top of their lungs that people need 1757 01:39:20.399 --> 01:39:24.560 to start looking at missing people in Germany from the 1758 01:39:24.600 --> 01:39:28.680 time that Jeff was there, and that they also said 1759 01:39:28.800 --> 01:39:33.000 Florida and somewhere else. He has victims too that have 1760 01:39:33.199 --> 01:39:37.640 never been identified, but they are Dahmer victims, and so 1761 01:39:39.479 --> 01:39:44.439 he started real early. And it's crazy to me because 1762 01:39:45.199 --> 01:39:48.239 not only could there be other victims when he was 1763 01:39:48.479 --> 01:39:53.520 in Germany that we don't know about and two survivors. 1764 01:39:54.319 --> 01:39:58.159 When he gets back home, he's on a whole other level. 1765 01:39:58.239 --> 01:40:02.560 He's like drinking blood bag and he's going to these 1766 01:40:02.720 --> 01:40:06.560 bathhouses and he's going to the gay clubs, and he's 1767 01:40:06.680 --> 01:40:12.439 taken it to an extra fucking level. Like whereas before 1768 01:40:12.560 --> 01:40:15.640 he had killed one guy, it was a hitchhiker guy. 1769 01:40:15.680 --> 01:40:18.199 He took him back to his house and he busted 1770 01:40:18.319 --> 01:40:20.800 him upside the head with like a barbell or something, 1771 01:40:20.960 --> 01:40:23.880 and it cooked him in the oven and fucking turned his 1772 01:40:24.039 --> 01:40:27.000 bones into fucking cat litter or some shit, and sprinkled 1773 01:40:27.039 --> 01:40:30.119 him all over the place. Then he goes to the military. 1774 01:40:30.239 --> 01:40:33.119 He comes out jeff two point zero, and he's on 1775 01:40:33.159 --> 01:40:36.960 some whole other scientific type shit, like, where the fuck 1776 01:40:37.000 --> 01:40:40.520 did you learn this, Jeff? And he was supposedly just 1777 01:40:40.720 --> 01:40:45.039 a medic, so where did he learn all this this shit? 1778 01:40:45.399 --> 01:40:51.600 You know? He was also uh, he had an honorable discharge, 1779 01:40:51.600 --> 01:40:55.479 but they said they they he got discharged for being 1780 01:40:55.520 --> 01:40:58.279 an alcoholic. So I don't know if that's a thing. 1781 01:40:58.720 --> 01:41:00.920 If you can be a raging out alcoholic can still 1782 01:41:00.960 --> 01:41:05.119 get an honorable discharge with full benefits, it seems like 1783 01:41:05.159 --> 01:41:09.119 to me you wouldn't, but jeff did. And it's like 1784 01:41:09.159 --> 01:41:11.039 I said, he gets out of the military and he's 1785 01:41:11.119 --> 01:41:18.560 Jeffrey two point zero. And so are you guys familiar 1786 01:41:18.760 --> 01:41:20.800 enough with this case to know what I'm talking about 1787 01:41:20.840 --> 01:41:23.720 when I say that big barrel he had like a 1788 01:41:23.760 --> 01:41:26.840 barrel of acid in his apartment where he would just 1789 01:41:26.920 --> 01:41:31.079 throw bodies in and let him All right, this is 1790 01:41:31.119 --> 01:41:35.920 something that doesn't make sense, guys. Jeffrey never owned a car, 1791 01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:40.600 never owned a car. Okay, he said he went to 1792 01:41:40.720 --> 01:41:44.439 the store, tell me what store you can get this from? 1793 01:41:44.880 --> 01:41:51.760 Bought a fifty seven gallon drum of acid called a cab, 1794 01:41:52.520 --> 01:41:56.399 loaded the fifty seven gallon drum of acid into the 1795 01:41:56.479 --> 01:42:00.600 cab by himself, didn't spill any didn't nothing, drove it 1796 01:42:00.680 --> 01:42:04.640 back to his apartment, then carried it by himself up 1797 01:42:04.680 --> 01:42:09.560 two flights of stairs into his apartment. But when the 1798 01:42:09.640 --> 01:42:14.159 police came to take the barrel out of the apartment, 1799 01:42:14.199 --> 01:42:17.760 it took two guys in hazmat suits with a moving 1800 01:42:17.840 --> 01:42:20.760 dolly to get it down the two flights of stairs 1801 01:42:20.760 --> 01:42:23.199 stick and get it out of his apartment. So you're 1802 01:42:23.239 --> 01:42:26.359 telling me this guy with no car by himself, and 1803 01:42:26.399 --> 01:42:31.199 the cab driver asked no questions. Apparently he got a 1804 01:42:31.319 --> 01:42:37.520 fifty seven gallon drum of acid from the store what store, 1805 01:42:37.720 --> 01:42:44.079 I don't know, to his apartment, the darkest sort. He 1806 01:42:44.319 --> 01:42:47.640 toted that bitch up two flights of stairs by himself, 1807 01:42:48.600 --> 01:42:51.800 and nobody asked any questions, like, Jeff, what's in the barrel? 1808 01:42:52.479 --> 01:42:53.039 Nobody said. 1809 01:42:53.640 --> 01:42:57.079 Nobody saw him in the hallway like with a rope 1810 01:42:57.119 --> 01:42:59.520 tied around this bitch, like pulling it up the stairs 1811 01:42:59.520 --> 01:43:03.000 and said, Jeff, what's in the barrel? Like are you serious? 1812 01:43:03.359 --> 01:43:07.199 This guy had no car. Also, a couple of his victims, 1813 01:43:07.600 --> 01:43:11.279 they lived like two hours away from where he lived, 1814 01:43:11.760 --> 01:43:16.279 and somehow he was able to walk, abduct them and 1815 01:43:16.319 --> 01:43:20.239 then walk them back two hours by car. Okay, so 1816 01:43:20.399 --> 01:43:23.720 you can imagine what that would be walking. But somehow 1817 01:43:23.880 --> 01:43:27.640 with no car he got them from another city back 1818 01:43:27.640 --> 01:43:30.680 to his city. And like, guys, it's almost like the 1819 01:43:30.720 --> 01:43:33.399 Ted Bundy thing. He couldn't be two places at once. 1820 01:43:33.560 --> 01:43:39.600 And his dad almost has like a gay crush on him. 1821 01:43:39.640 --> 01:43:42.479 He shows up in all the interviews with Jeff. He's 1822 01:43:42.520 --> 01:43:46.159 always taken Jeff's side. He's always saying, what a great 1823 01:43:46.199 --> 01:43:50.119 guy Jeff is. His dad's a fucking scientist. You want 1824 01:43:50.159 --> 01:43:52.720 to talk about, where did he get a fifty seven 1825 01:43:52.880 --> 01:43:56.199 gallon drum of acid? I don't know. Maybe his fucking 1826 01:43:56.239 --> 01:44:01.039 scientists dad that works out a research lab. How about that? 1827 01:44:01.640 --> 01:44:03.840 How about his dad wrote a book and said that 1828 01:44:03.960 --> 01:44:06.520 he's had dark thoughts his entire life and wanted to 1829 01:44:06.520 --> 01:44:09.279 burn a bitch alive and like do all this other stuff. 1830 01:44:09.319 --> 01:44:11.800 And then he's always showing up in interviews with Jeff 1831 01:44:11.880 --> 01:44:14.079 saying like, Jeff's not a bad guy. Jeff isn't that. 1832 01:44:14.359 --> 01:44:17.039 I think his fucking dad was helping him. I think 1833 01:44:17.079 --> 01:44:20.079 his dad fucking brought him the gallon fifty seven gallon 1834 01:44:20.159 --> 01:44:23.279 drama acid and towed it up the stairs. I think 1835 01:44:23.319 --> 01:44:25.399 his dad knew a lot more. Do you remember this 1836 01:44:25.560 --> 01:44:30.560 story where Jeff's dad came over to his apartment or 1837 01:44:30.560 --> 01:44:32.720 his house or something and he said, Jeff, what's in 1838 01:44:32.760 --> 01:44:34.840 the box? And he was like, all, I can't open 1839 01:44:34.920 --> 01:44:37.279 the box. There's a bunch of nudy magazines in it. 1840 01:44:37.680 --> 01:44:40.439 I'll get those nudy magazines out and I'll show you 1841 01:44:40.479 --> 01:44:43.920 the box tomorrow. And he's like okay, and he just leaves. 1842 01:44:44.399 --> 01:44:46.880 What parent, do you know if your kid had a 1843 01:44:46.960 --> 01:44:49.079 locked box under their bed and you were like, what's 1844 01:44:49.119 --> 01:44:52.079 in the box, Jeff, and they were like, it's nudy magazines. 1845 01:44:52.119 --> 01:44:55.520 I can't show you. Come back tomorrow after I've gotten 1846 01:44:55.640 --> 01:44:59.119 rid of it. You'd be like, motherfucker, open this box 1847 01:44:59.199 --> 01:45:02.840 up right now. I'm not coming back tomorrow. There is 1848 01:45:03.000 --> 01:45:05.800 no me coming back tomorrow. Open the box. He had 1849 01:45:05.800 --> 01:45:08.600 a fucking head in the box. He had a whole 1850 01:45:08.680 --> 01:45:12.279 cock and balsa in the box, and they could have 1851 01:45:12.319 --> 01:45:15.680 found out right then what he was doing. But no, 1852 01:45:16.119 --> 01:45:19.600 his dad leaves and comes back the next day after 1853 01:45:19.720 --> 01:45:23.000 he's had time to like get rid of this ship. Also, 1854 01:45:23.079 --> 01:45:26.520 where did he learn all this taxidermy stuff and like 1855 01:45:26.640 --> 01:45:29.039 how to how to like melt these bones down and 1856 01:45:29.079 --> 01:45:31.479 all that, maybe from his dad, the chemist. 1857 01:45:32.079 --> 01:45:32.600 I don't know. 1858 01:45:34.039 --> 01:45:36.920 Well, wasn't there a crossover with another serial killer in 1859 01:45:36.960 --> 01:45:39.520 the army in Germany at the same time, as as uh? 1860 01:45:40.760 --> 01:45:42.119 I like how we're referring to as. 1861 01:45:42.000 --> 01:45:47.720 Jeff as if he's coming over related for pizza. He's Yeah, 1862 01:45:47.880 --> 01:45:50.640 wasn't Arthur Shawl Cross I believe was also a serial 1863 01:45:50.760 --> 01:45:55.079 killer army at the same time. It's almost like I 1864 01:45:55.119 --> 01:45:56.680 think he was also a medic as well, if I 1865 01:45:56.680 --> 01:46:00.439 remember correctly. See Em and old Jeff were some sort 1866 01:46:00.479 --> 01:46:01.239 of training together. 1867 01:46:01.600 --> 01:46:04.560 Dude, they were in a gay, fucking lover's relationship, is 1868 01:46:04.600 --> 01:46:08.119 what they were. Yeah, Like, listen to me. Jeff said 1869 01:46:08.560 --> 01:46:14.039 he got off by watching The Exorcist Part two, and 1870 01:46:14.479 --> 01:46:16.960 then he would go get victims and then he wanted 1871 01:46:16.960 --> 01:46:19.840 to take all the bones and make an altar in 1872 01:46:19.880 --> 01:46:23.920 his apartment, right right, Well, here's something that nobody else 1873 01:46:23.960 --> 01:46:27.680 talks about. You know how he molested one brother and 1874 01:46:27.720 --> 01:46:30.520 then the other brother he drilled holes in his skull 1875 01:46:30.600 --> 01:46:32.840 and injected acid into his brain. That was a set 1876 01:46:32.840 --> 01:46:36.880 of brothers. Well, there's another set of brothers too, because 1877 01:46:36.960 --> 01:46:41.920 one of the Jeffrey Dahmer victims brothers, after Jeff went 1878 01:46:41.960 --> 01:46:46.119 to jail, was killed in a ritual sacrifice. That's what 1879 01:46:46.199 --> 01:46:49.239 the article says. One of the brothers of a Dahmer 1880 01:46:49.319 --> 01:46:52.880 victim was killed in a ritual sacrifice after Jeff had 1881 01:46:52.920 --> 01:46:55.600 already said all this stuff about setting up altars in 1882 01:46:55.640 --> 01:46:58.600 his apartment and shit. You might think he had help 1883 01:46:58.640 --> 01:47:01.239 from the outside, or he was part of a group, right, 1884 01:47:01.840 --> 01:47:03.960 or maybe his dad helped him. I don't know. I 1885 01:47:03.960 --> 01:47:04.279 don't know. 1886 01:47:06.600 --> 01:47:09.439 He got this may he's got this ship. 1887 01:47:10.199 --> 01:47:13.199 So what you're saying is he borrowed his dad's car 1888 01:47:13.920 --> 01:47:14.199 to do. 1889 01:47:15.920 --> 01:47:16.159 Dude. 1890 01:47:16.439 --> 01:47:18.960 If he borrowed his dad's car, I bet his dad 1891 01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:19.720 knew exist he. 1892 01:47:19.760 --> 01:47:21.720 Stole his dad's notes on how to how to do 1893 01:47:21.760 --> 01:47:25.319 all this stuff too. Welleffre is. 1894 01:47:25.359 --> 01:47:28.600 He's kind of the Forest Gump of serial killers, right, Yeah. 1895 01:47:28.680 --> 01:47:31.279 And he was brutally honest too. He'd be like, I 1896 01:47:31.359 --> 01:47:33.640 went to the bar and I would just pick the 1897 01:47:33.680 --> 01:47:36.399 most attractive guy, and I would take them back to 1898 01:47:36.439 --> 01:47:39.119 my apartment and I cut their dick off, and I 1899 01:47:39.119 --> 01:47:41.800 would like, he would just tell you and grew some 1900 01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:45.560 detail the ship that he was doing right, like. 1901 01:47:45.479 --> 01:47:47.399 It was totally normal, Like he explains like he was 1902 01:47:47.560 --> 01:47:50.920 describing his lunch. Yeah, well, he's living in a he's 1903 01:47:50.920 --> 01:47:53.119 living in an alleyway behind a pizza shop. And he 1904 01:47:53.199 --> 01:47:55.800 reports a dead body that he just found in an 1905 01:47:55.840 --> 01:47:59.520 alleyway down there in Miami, Florida or Hollywood, Florida at 1906 01:47:59.520 --> 01:48:01.920 the same time the Adam Walsh murder which showed us 1907 01:48:01.920 --> 01:48:04.920 which was pending notice tool later. But Dahmer's living in 1908 01:48:04.920 --> 01:48:07.119 an alleyway down there at the same time, and he 1909 01:48:07.199 --> 01:48:09.439 just happens to find a dead body and he reports 1910 01:48:09.479 --> 01:48:10.039 to the police. 1911 01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:13.960 Well, and you know what, the kid that he drilled 1912 01:48:14.520 --> 01:48:17.880 into his skull and injected acid. This he was a 1913 01:48:17.880 --> 01:48:21.000 fourteen year old kid. Listen to this shit. Tell me, 1914 01:48:21.079 --> 01:48:25.760 these guys aren't protected. The cops aren't fucking protected the cops. 1915 01:48:26.520 --> 01:48:30.079 He's got blood dripping out of his asshole, down his legs, 1916 01:48:30.079 --> 01:48:34.680 he's clearly upset. He's fourteen. These two ladies are like, 1917 01:48:34.720 --> 01:48:36.800 there's a fourteen year old kid. Well, they didn't know. 1918 01:48:36.800 --> 01:48:39.520 They said, there's a young boy out here. He's bleeding, 1919 01:48:39.680 --> 01:48:44.199 he's crying, he's clearly been Uh, something's happened to him. 1920 01:48:44.640 --> 01:48:48.640 And then Uh, not only do they let him go 1921 01:48:48.840 --> 01:48:52.279 back with Jeff, they escort him back to the apartment. 1922 01:48:52.399 --> 01:48:55.199 Here's the thing that nobody talks about, and that's never 1923 01:48:55.239 --> 01:48:58.800 shows up in the documentaries. Jeff had two bodies in 1924 01:48:58.880 --> 01:49:02.039 his bedroom that had in there just rotting when the 1925 01:49:02.079 --> 01:49:05.920 police dropped this kid off. You're telling me experienced police 1926 01:49:05.920 --> 01:49:08.520 officers wouldn't have opened up the door to his apartment 1927 01:49:08.840 --> 01:49:12.520 and not smelled that and not known what that was. 1928 01:49:13.119 --> 01:49:17.119 Like literally five feet away from the front door of 1929 01:49:17.159 --> 01:49:20.680 the apartment, there's two rotting corpses in Jeff's bed and 1930 01:49:20.720 --> 01:49:26.079 they didn't anything. They just leave this kid, They just 1931 01:49:26.199 --> 01:49:29.359 leave him. Oh it's a bunch of gay guys, gay stuff. 1932 01:49:29.439 --> 01:49:32.520 That's what gay sex smells like. It smells like dead body. 1933 01:49:32.840 --> 01:49:36.319 Fuck off. Like, there's no way those police officers went 1934 01:49:36.359 --> 01:49:39.079 in that apartment and didn't, like, they didn't smell anything, 1935 01:49:39.119 --> 01:49:43.439 they didn't see anything, they didn't nothing nothing. It's almost 1936 01:49:43.520 --> 01:49:46.840 as if they ran his name and whoever came back 1937 01:49:46.880 --> 01:49:48.840 and was like, oh, it's Jeff Dahmer. Just you know, 1938 01:49:49.000 --> 01:49:52.039 just let it go and they left. Because those two 1939 01:49:52.079 --> 01:49:56.560 police officers, they were suspended with pay and then they 1940 01:49:56.560 --> 01:49:59.760 were later reinstated, because it was almost as if they 1941 01:49:59.760 --> 01:50:01.159 were us fulfilling in order. 1942 01:50:02.359 --> 01:50:06.079 Oh absolutely, and within the police be they wouldn't have 1943 01:50:06.119 --> 01:50:07.760 to tell him not to. They would just they would 1944 01:50:07.760 --> 01:50:10.119 already know that there's that's a building or a suspect 1945 01:50:10.159 --> 01:50:12.920 of you know, some reason to avoid that building, you 1946 01:50:12.960 --> 01:50:14.359 know what I mean, So they would that would be 1947 01:50:14.399 --> 01:50:16.039 common knowledge amongst the patrol beat. 1948 01:50:16.600 --> 01:50:16.800 Right. 1949 01:50:16.920 --> 01:50:19.840 But with Dahmer's other weird connections as far. 1950 01:50:19.720 --> 01:50:22.600 As like you know, getting some sort of top coverage, 1951 01:50:22.920 --> 01:50:25.119 you know, amongst this whole network, how does he know 1952 01:50:25.199 --> 01:50:27.640 all these other members of these of these cult networks. Right, 1953 01:50:28.199 --> 01:50:31.520 one of his victors, apparently one of his victims probably 1954 01:50:31.560 --> 01:50:34.680 came from the same spot as Gayy righty, Like they 1955 01:50:35.680 --> 01:50:37.600 are common hunting ground, right. 1956 01:50:38.000 --> 01:50:41.680 Yes, yes, that's exactly right. And and they were both gay, right, 1957 01:50:41.800 --> 01:50:45.199 Gaysey was gay and Dahmer was gay. And and they're 1958 01:50:45.239 --> 01:50:48.359 getting they're pulling their victims from the same area. Yeah, 1959 01:50:48.560 --> 01:50:51.680 he puts the gay and gay sy But it's like 1960 01:50:51.920 --> 01:50:58.000 it's like Dahmer, listen, guys, he definitely had help and 1961 01:50:58.079 --> 01:51:04.560 he was definitely connected with shit, all right. It's like 1962 01:51:05.680 --> 01:51:10.840 some of the stuff too, you guys, like the Podestas 1963 01:51:10.960 --> 01:51:14.600 having this golden Jeffrey Dahmer victim statue in their house. 1964 01:51:14.600 --> 01:51:17.479 They're proud of this shit. And like, if you were 1965 01:51:17.560 --> 01:51:20.760 gonna pick a serial killer to be proud of, it's 1966 01:51:20.800 --> 01:51:24.720 gotta be Jeff. He was feeding people pulled pork, human 1967 01:51:24.880 --> 01:51:28.239 ass sandwiches. He was like, knock on their door and 1968 01:51:28.279 --> 01:51:32.479 be like, you're hungry, and it would be like a victim. 1969 01:51:32.680 --> 01:51:35.319 And he was like feeding it to people like a 1970 01:51:35.439 --> 01:51:40.199 sick o fucko. And they tore the apartment building down, right, 1971 01:51:40.960 --> 01:51:44.920 they put a fucking park where the apartment, Like go, 1972 01:51:47.239 --> 01:51:49.600 It's like, if you're gonna tear the apartment building down 1973 01:51:49.600 --> 01:51:51.560 where all this stuff happened, and you're gonna put a 1974 01:51:51.600 --> 01:51:55.399 park there. I was telling Colby about it, and I said, 1975 01:51:55.520 --> 01:51:57.720 do you think like Jeff could have opened up like 1976 01:51:57.760 --> 01:51:59.880 a portal to Hell in that apartment? I mean, think 1977 01:52:00.079 --> 01:52:05.039 the things he was doing in there, I said. 1978 01:52:03.960 --> 01:52:06.359 And that's why he lived in that apartment, right. 1979 01:52:06.319 --> 01:52:08.760 But I said, I said the Ghost Adventures should go 1980 01:52:08.800 --> 01:52:11.279 and check out the apartment. And I was like, oh wait, 1981 01:52:11.399 --> 01:52:13.079 they tore it down and they built a park, and 1982 01:52:13.119 --> 01:52:15.520 he said, tell him to go sit on a swing. 1983 01:52:16.960 --> 01:52:20.600 Can go there, right, I was like, I would never. 1984 01:52:20.840 --> 01:52:23.079 When would you build a park there? It's like, so, 1985 01:52:23.920 --> 01:52:26.359 I mean Jeff was like I said, he's said he 1986 01:52:26.439 --> 01:52:29.840 got off watching The Exorcist Part two and he he 1987 01:52:29.960 --> 01:52:32.560 was building altars and ship and he was doing all 1988 01:52:32.600 --> 01:52:37.640 this stuff. So I mean, ask vampires. 1989 01:52:37.960 --> 01:52:41.159 Maybe that's how he's carrying that giant ass barrel and 1990 01:52:41.239 --> 01:52:44.359 running at like thirty five miles in Howard he's possessed 1991 01:52:44.399 --> 01:52:49.000 by some crazy demon though he's like like carry barrel. 1992 01:52:51.760 --> 01:52:54.720 Like like literally, you guys, I don't know where you 1993 01:52:54.760 --> 01:52:58.800 stand on demonic possession and stuff like that. I myself 1994 01:52:58.840 --> 01:53:01.439 am a spiritual person, and I do believe in stuff 1995 01:53:01.479 --> 01:53:04.279 like that. I think it's a very real possibility. I 1996 01:53:04.319 --> 01:53:07.319 think that you can have a demonic possession and also, 1997 01:53:07.760 --> 01:53:10.359 you know, be a programmed killer. I don't think those 1998 01:53:10.359 --> 01:53:13.560 two things have to be separate from each other. If 1999 01:53:13.600 --> 01:53:15.680 there was a case of that, I think Jeff is 2000 01:53:15.720 --> 01:53:21.279 definitely one of them. One of his last victims was 2001 01:53:21.359 --> 01:53:24.920 actually a guy named Tracy Edwards, I believe, and he 2002 01:53:27.319 --> 01:53:30.279 ran screaming from the apartment and he said, this white 2003 01:53:30.279 --> 01:53:32.800 guy said he's going to eat my heart out, And 2004 01:53:32.840 --> 01:53:36.359 that's how he got busted. But what people don't know 2005 01:53:36.600 --> 01:53:40.279 is actually, out of all the victims that Jeffrey killed, 2006 01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:43.159 the one that got away at the end was a 2007 01:53:43.199 --> 01:53:47.520 pedophile who was on parole for raping like a twelve 2008 01:53:47.600 --> 01:53:51.840 year old girl. Out of all the Dahmer victims to 2009 01:53:51.880 --> 01:53:55.600 get away, the one at the pedophile guy at the 2010 01:53:55.720 --> 01:53:59.159 end gets to get off scot free. If anybody should 2011 01:53:59.159 --> 01:54:01.680 get their assay to it was that motherfucker. But no. 2012 01:54:03.079 --> 01:54:03.239 Way. 2013 01:54:04.720 --> 01:54:07.039 I bet he would like it. But that's it. But 2014 01:54:07.479 --> 01:54:11.359 I mean, I could go on and on about Jeff 2015 01:54:11.359 --> 01:54:13.680 That's why I did a whole bonus episode Me and 2016 01:54:13.760 --> 01:54:17.359 Coldy on my Patreon of Jeff Dahmer stuff because I 2017 01:54:17.399 --> 01:54:19.800 could keep going and going and going, and I still 2018 01:54:19.800 --> 01:54:24.600 wouldn't have covered at all. So you know, it's it's 2019 01:54:24.640 --> 01:54:37.159 actually Domer, Justmer. It's a sick name. Just Jeff Jeff. 2020 01:54:37.520 --> 01:54:39.760 I'd watch that show about Dahmer, just Jeff. 2021 01:54:43.279 --> 01:54:49.119 Him, like he seems so sincere and he's so brutally honest, 2022 01:54:49.960 --> 01:54:53.079 and he'll just sit there and tell you gory fucking 2023 01:54:53.239 --> 01:54:56.560 details of this ship and it just makes you wonder, 2024 01:54:56.920 --> 01:55:01.279 you know, like, what's the fuck. Yeah, that reminds me 2025 01:55:01.319 --> 01:55:02.720 of the movie nefarious. 2026 01:55:02.760 --> 01:55:04.079 I don't know if you guys have seen that. 2027 01:55:04.680 --> 01:55:05.800 I don't know if I've seen it. 2028 01:55:05.920 --> 01:55:08.880 No, I highly recommend it. I think you might. You 2029 01:55:08.960 --> 01:55:10.760 might be only able to watch it on YouTube, I'm 2030 01:55:10.760 --> 01:55:13.840 not sure, or in America maybe you can. In Canada 2031 01:55:13.880 --> 01:55:18.239 can only watch it on YouTube. But that's what happens 2032 01:55:18.279 --> 01:55:21.520 when this person on death Row is being interviewed, He 2033 01:55:21.600 --> 01:55:25.680 like switches personalities and then like the demon speaks through 2034 01:55:25.720 --> 01:55:29.520 and he's like so deadpan, like just straight up very honest. 2035 01:55:30.840 --> 01:55:31.079 Yeah. 2036 01:55:31.279 --> 01:55:34.640 But like you said, Julia, like is zomonic possession? Are 2037 01:55:34.680 --> 01:55:37.880 they separate? No? I think I actually think to be 2038 01:55:38.119 --> 01:55:40.920 a programmed killer, that's exactly what that means. 2039 01:55:41.399 --> 01:55:43.920 I think that they actually have to open you up 2040 01:55:43.920 --> 01:55:45.840 to that to get you to that level. 2041 01:55:46.159 --> 01:55:49.319 The trauma, the traumatization is to open you up to 2042 01:55:50.560 --> 01:55:53.760 entities that can influence your actions and thoughts. 2043 01:55:53.760 --> 01:55:58.560 I don't think that's a basic human action, right, I mean, 2044 01:55:58.680 --> 01:56:01.840 Richard Ramirez pretty much said is as much you know 2045 01:56:02.399 --> 01:56:06.359 that he worshiped the devil and you know whatever. And 2046 01:56:06.680 --> 01:56:09.159 I do think that that plays a big part to 2047 01:56:09.199 --> 01:56:14.079 do with a lot of these serial killers. And you know, 2048 01:56:14.199 --> 01:56:16.800 if we want to do a part three, which we 2049 01:56:16.840 --> 01:56:20.119 don't have to or anything. But I think another interesting 2050 01:56:20.239 --> 01:56:24.239 aspect of we're talking about how the CIA can get 2051 01:56:24.279 --> 01:56:27.800 away with this kind of stuff. A good example would 2052 01:56:27.800 --> 01:56:31.920 be Ruby Ridge and the siegeohn Waco. I mean, they 2053 01:56:31.960 --> 01:56:36.560 can literally just murder people for no fucking reason whatsoever 2054 01:56:36.680 --> 01:56:39.560 and just completely get away with it. So if you 2055 01:56:39.600 --> 01:56:41.720 want an example of that, you guys need to look 2056 01:56:41.720 --> 01:56:44.760 at Ruby Ridge, and you need to look at fucking Waco, 2057 01:56:44.880 --> 01:56:48.199 because if they want you dead, you're dead, and they 2058 01:56:48.199 --> 01:56:50.039 don't even have to have a good reason for it. 2059 01:56:52.920 --> 01:56:56.399 Another another little interesting tie in I thought of is 2060 01:56:56.600 --> 01:57:01.239 Nicholas Shrek. Oh yeah, close to interview all the serial killers, 2061 01:57:01.359 --> 01:57:06.039 Ramirez and Manson and and he's a part of was 2062 01:57:06.079 --> 01:57:07.920 a part of the Church of Satan and then a 2063 01:57:08.000 --> 01:57:10.399 part of the temple is set with a keynote. 2064 01:57:10.760 --> 01:57:13.119 And wasn't he married to Zena? 2065 01:57:13.439 --> 01:57:14.880 Yeah, yep, and married. 2066 01:57:16.760 --> 01:57:24.079 He's married, mm hmm. But I mean that's all I 2067 01:57:24.119 --> 01:57:27.600 got for serial Killers for you guys, I hope people 2068 01:57:27.680 --> 01:57:28.640 learned a lot of ship. 2069 01:57:30.680 --> 01:57:32.640 No, that was good, and that was a lot of 2070 01:57:32.680 --> 01:57:34.520 stuff and a lot of left that. 2071 01:57:35.399 --> 01:57:38.760 Sorry about that, you guys were cracking me up. 2072 01:57:39.119 --> 01:57:40.680 Sorry. The chat is on fire. 2073 01:57:41.880 --> 01:57:44.880 Look at your faces. You were over there fucking it 2074 01:57:44.960 --> 01:57:48.560 was like something is funny. Pros just kept going. It's 2075 01:57:48.560 --> 01:57:49.680 just like, no problem. 2076 01:57:49.800 --> 01:57:50.399 I got this. 2077 01:57:50.760 --> 01:57:54.319 So the people who don't watch the video. Teresa left 2078 01:57:54.399 --> 01:57:56.560 so hard that she actually had to turn off a video. 2079 01:57:58.239 --> 01:57:59.920 Let me just get these giggles over. 2080 01:58:02.479 --> 01:58:06.880 I'm a horrible person laughing about dam or Like what 2081 01:58:06.880 --> 01:58:07.640 what puts you off? 2082 01:58:08.359 --> 01:58:09.600 And you can play the chat. 2083 01:58:09.800 --> 01:58:11.119 The chat is off. The hook to. 2084 01:58:12.840 --> 01:58:15.479 The chat, I only saw like every other comment. I 2085 01:58:15.520 --> 01:58:18.319 saw the ass vampires, but I think I missed some 2086 01:58:18.359 --> 01:58:19.880 other some other ship. 2087 01:58:20.239 --> 01:58:23.039 I have like an ADHD brain, So like you're talking 2088 01:58:23.079 --> 01:58:25.279 and I'm listening, but then I'm also like reading at 2089 01:58:25.279 --> 01:58:25.960 the same time. 2090 01:58:26.319 --> 01:58:29.760 It's like I don't know. Just hey, somebody said we 2091 01:58:29.800 --> 01:58:34.159 ain't coming out Waco. Yeah, dude, they're there, Yeah, right there. 2092 01:58:34.479 --> 01:58:38.800 So there there's a show on HBO. Oh that was Lisia. 2093 01:58:39.520 --> 01:58:46.119 I didn't read the name. Sorry him in Texas. Yeah, 2094 01:58:46.239 --> 01:58:49.840 there's a show on HBO. I want to watch it. 2095 01:58:49.840 --> 01:58:52.520 It's it's really good about Waco. 2096 01:58:55.960 --> 01:58:59.880 All right, awesome, Thank you so much, Julia. If you 2097 01:59:00.039 --> 01:59:01.800 think there's enough stuff to come back for a part three, 2098 01:59:01.800 --> 01:59:02.560 you can just let me know. 2099 01:59:02.640 --> 01:59:05.119 But I mean I think a part a cool. Part 2100 01:59:05.159 --> 01:59:08.840 three might be just just diving into the canyon actually 2101 01:59:09.039 --> 01:59:12.640 just starting all over with the new like two parter. 2102 01:59:13.319 --> 01:59:15.039 Yeah yeah, yeah, you know that don't work. Yeah, then 2103 01:59:15.039 --> 01:59:18.199 you can bring Kobe with you. Definitely, that's gonna be fun. 2104 01:59:18.279 --> 01:59:18.479 Nice. 2105 01:59:18.520 --> 01:59:20.239 I really look forward to that. But thank you so 2106 01:59:20.359 --> 01:59:23.319 much for tonight again. You know, it was a great show. 2107 01:59:23.359 --> 01:59:25.520 That was two hours of a lot of information. We 2108 01:59:25.600 --> 01:59:27.760 went over so many people really, if you think about it, 2109 01:59:27.840 --> 01:59:31.199 you know, even side tangents and stuff and a tunnel laughs, 2110 01:59:31.319 --> 01:59:34.119 tunnel laughs. I highly suggest with the people with the 2111 01:59:34.159 --> 01:59:36.239 video of maybe you can check it out after the 2112 01:59:36.279 --> 01:59:39.880 fact and you'll see some of the things I posted up. Yeah, 2113 01:59:39.880 --> 01:59:41.439 I might take the live down so you don't get 2114 01:59:41.439 --> 01:59:43.199 to see the whole live chat, but there's some gems 2115 01:59:43.199 --> 01:59:45.720 I posted up, like when I was able to breathe 2116 01:59:45.720 --> 01:59:49.119 and I wasn't eleven. But real quick, Julia, let everybody 2117 01:59:49.119 --> 01:59:51.680 know where they can find all your amazing work again, please. 2118 01:59:52.319 --> 01:59:52.880 Thank you. 2119 01:59:53.000 --> 01:59:56.720 Yeah, so I have again the Cosmic Peach podcast wherever 2120 01:59:56.760 --> 01:59:59.920 you listen to podcasts, and if you want extra stuff 2121 02:00:00.119 --> 02:00:05.239 like the just Jeff episode, you can go to Patreon 2122 02:00:05.560 --> 02:00:08.960 and look for Cosmic Peach Podcast. You'll get all the 2123 02:00:09.000 --> 02:00:14.199 episodes early, you'll get bonus extra stuff. And yeah, so 2124 02:00:14.560 --> 02:00:17.000 I'm always working on I think I mentioned this in 2125 02:00:17.039 --> 02:00:20.159 the last episode we did together. I'm always working on 2126 02:00:20.680 --> 02:00:23.680 many series covering different stuff. Right now, I'm working on 2127 02:00:23.680 --> 02:00:27.079 one on the nineties, the dark dark Stuff in the nineties. 2128 02:00:27.479 --> 02:00:30.840 Yeah, David Lynch did die. 2129 02:00:31.399 --> 02:00:32.720 I bet you cried, didn't you. 2130 02:00:33.159 --> 02:00:35.039 I was upset, though, I was very upset. 2131 02:00:36.079 --> 02:00:38.800 I think Colby was too, But don't get me to line. 2132 02:00:39.000 --> 02:00:42.600 He did tell me to tell you that. But yeah, 2133 02:00:42.680 --> 02:00:46.239 so I got a new mini series coming out on 2134 02:00:46.279 --> 02:00:51.960 the nineties, and I'm trying to feature some clips if 2135 02:00:52.079 --> 02:00:54.319 any of you guys would be willing to send me one. 2136 02:00:54.399 --> 02:00:56.279 I'm still waiting on Nick, but. 2137 02:00:56.399 --> 02:00:58.680 Right I totally forgot. I'm so sorry. 2138 02:00:58.800 --> 02:01:03.800 Yeah, I'm just like in Teresa to Lisa, JJ, Thrash, Mike, 2139 02:01:03.920 --> 02:01:05.560 all of you guys, if you want to send me 2140 02:01:05.680 --> 02:01:09.039 just a short audio clip of it doesn't even have 2141 02:01:09.119 --> 02:01:11.119 to be the dark stuff from the nineties, but like 2142 02:01:11.520 --> 02:01:14.600 the most memorable things to you from the nineties. And 2143 02:01:15.279 --> 02:01:18.640 I'm trying to feature a little you know, podcast friends 2144 02:01:18.640 --> 02:01:20.479 in there and just talking about So I grew up 2145 02:01:20.479 --> 02:01:24.760 in the nineties. I'm sentimental about it. So I'm trying 2146 02:01:24.760 --> 02:01:27.800 to make it enjoyable for even somebody who doesn't have 2147 02:01:27.880 --> 02:01:30.560 fond memory memories of the nineties, they'll still want to 2148 02:01:30.600 --> 02:01:34.039 listen to it. And yeah, that's that's what I got 2149 02:01:34.039 --> 02:01:34.880 going on right now. 2150 02:01:36.319 --> 02:01:37.000 Thank you so much. 2151 02:01:37.199 --> 02:01:39.000 That sounds awesome. I actually love the nineties. 2152 02:01:39.039 --> 02:01:42.520 I do a whole series comparing grunge rock to the 2153 02:01:42.560 --> 02:01:43.840 weird scenes inside the Canyon. 2154 02:01:44.159 --> 02:01:50.079 Yeah, yeah, yeah, with Courtney Love and Kurt and yeah. 2155 02:01:49.720 --> 02:01:53.880 The whole scene. I mean Alison Chains, Pearl Jam Soundgarden rim. 2156 02:01:55.000 --> 02:01:57.279 I am going to touch on that in this series. 2157 02:01:57.439 --> 02:02:00.520 So yeah, it's going to be one of the last ones. 2158 02:02:00.800 --> 02:02:03.359 And I think I'm actually gonna have Colby come on 2159 02:02:03.399 --> 02:02:06.159 the last episode and talk about what you're talking about 2160 02:02:06.199 --> 02:02:09.279 right now with the grunge it's It's Laurel Canyon two 2161 02:02:09.279 --> 02:02:09.720 point zero. 2162 02:02:10.359 --> 02:02:13.840 Oh absolutely, yeah, yeah. I mean I was a big, 2163 02:02:14.039 --> 02:02:14.920 big mcgallan fan. 2164 02:02:15.079 --> 02:02:15.439 I looked. 2165 02:02:15.479 --> 02:02:18.560 I know, he mentioned one day about how he thought 2166 02:02:18.560 --> 02:02:21.039 there was comparisons, you know, in like an interview between 2167 02:02:21.039 --> 02:02:23.520 the world, there is there is. That was the scene 2168 02:02:23.560 --> 02:02:25.159 I grew up like as a big fan. 2169 02:02:25.000 --> 02:02:31.079 Of mm hmm, yeah, I mean it's a rabbit hole, 2170 02:02:31.119 --> 02:02:32.560 for sure. It's a rabbit hole. 2171 02:02:36.840 --> 02:02:37.239 Definitely. 2172 02:02:37.439 --> 02:02:39.520 Thank you so much for having me Nick. This was 2173 02:02:39.560 --> 02:02:44.000 another killer episode. Working with you guys, it's always super interesting. 2174 02:02:44.159 --> 02:02:44.600 Hell yeah, I know. 2175 02:02:44.720 --> 02:02:45.960 That was a lot of fun and it was a 2176 02:02:46.000 --> 02:02:46.600 really good show. 2177 02:02:46.640 --> 02:02:49.279 I really appreciate you bringing that to the Cool Rejas 2178 02:02:49.399 --> 02:02:52.680 this week, and the live obviously loved it. You had 2179 02:02:52.680 --> 02:02:54.000 a lot of fans and that a lot of people 2180 02:02:54.079 --> 02:02:56.680 saying they loved what you were doing, so you know, 2181 02:02:56.720 --> 02:02:57.720 it went over really good. 2182 02:02:57.800 --> 02:02:58.439 Thank you. 2183 02:02:58.439 --> 02:03:00.479 You know, it seems like everybody enjoyed and that's what 2184 02:03:00.479 --> 02:03:02.560 I'm trying to do. And thank you everybody in the 2185 02:03:02.600 --> 02:03:05.279 chat for making my night and keeping us constantly laughing. 2186 02:03:05.319 --> 02:03:06.840 That was some great stuff in there, and you know, 2187 02:03:06.880 --> 02:03:10.359 some interesting things being edited as well. And that is 2188 02:03:10.399 --> 02:03:13.319 the end of another Occult Rejects and until the next one, 2189 02:03:13.600 --> 02:03:15.359 everybody be well later.