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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app Strange Animal Stories. Maybe I will

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<v Speaker 1>save them for strange science. Okay, we've got a largest

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<v Speaker 1>single breed dog walk to tell you about a woodpecker

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<v Speaker 1>that is causing chaos in a neighborhood in Massachusetts. And

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<v Speaker 1>we've got a zoo in New York hand feeding a

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<v Speaker 1>baby vulture with a puppet. I figured we well, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. We started talking about real things on this show,

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<v Speaker 1>like people that want to be in power, and people

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<v Speaker 1>lost their minds. So I am I'm now pivoting to

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<v Speaker 1>vultures being fed with hand puppets in a zoo because

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<v Speaker 1>I figure how many people could I possibly piss off

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<v Speaker 1>with that story.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll find someone either anti puppet or pro vulture or

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<v Speaker 2>anti vulture pro puppet, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear from the anti puppet person, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I will bet you a little.

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<v Speaker 3>It is in the meantime time for swamp watch, which

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<v Speaker 3>means I'm a cheat and a liar. And when I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipops here we got

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<v Speaker 3>The real problem is that our leaders are done.

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<v Speaker 1>The other side never quits.

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<v Speaker 4>So what I'm not going anywhere so that you train the.

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<v Speaker 3>Squat I can imagine what can be and be unburdened

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<v Speaker 3>by what has been. You know, Americans have always been

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<v Speaker 3>gone at president, but they're not stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>Have the people voted for you? With not swamp watch.

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to point out that downtown La, downtown

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco, downtown San Diego, everywhere in California, lot of

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<v Speaker 2>big cities across the country are seeing May Day International

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<v Speaker 2>Workers Day marches. Downtown LA is a huge problem right

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<v Speaker 2>now because there are thousands of people that have blocked

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<v Speaker 2>it up. The theme for the rally today at least one

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<v Speaker 2>in La one Struggle one Fight, Workers Unite.

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<v Speaker 1>It's too many syllables.

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<v Speaker 2>In Struggle one, Struggle one fight Workers Unite.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like in love actually when they squeeze

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<v Speaker 1>in an extra syllable, Christmas is all around us instead

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<v Speaker 1>of Love is all around us. Christmas is all around us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's too many syllables. You got to think about the

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<v Speaker 1>chance when you're coming up with the slogan about the chance.

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<v Speaker 2>National Security Advisor Mike Waltz and his deputy along are

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<v Speaker 2>expected to be leaving their posts in the Trump White House,

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<v Speaker 2>expected to leave today. A bunch of different sources started

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<v Speaker 2>reporting this early this morning. The White House yet has

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<v Speaker 2>not responded to request for comments from CBS and ABC

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<v Speaker 2>and NBC. Mark Halprin used to be with ABC News,

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<v Speaker 2>now out on his own.

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<v Speaker 3>He was the first to report these departures today.

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<v Speaker 2>The President's chief of Staff is said to be having

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<v Speaker 2>conversations with some of the other National Security Council members.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, all of this stems from Mike Walls and

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<v Speaker 2>that original signal app chat where he included Jeffrey Goldberg,

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<v Speaker 2>an editor from The Atlantic magazine. They talked about top

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<v Speaker 2>national security officials for talking about plans for this military

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<v Speaker 2>strike unhealthy targets in Yemen in mid March, and then

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<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey Goldberg published his account of all of this and

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<v Speaker 2>initially didn't give any of the operational details, fearing that

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<v Speaker 2>they would put service mens lives at risk. But then

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<v Speaker 2>Pete Hegseth and everybody else denied that anybody had had

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<v Speaker 2>any sort of classified information shared in the chat, so

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<v Speaker 2>he said, Okay, if it's not classified, here you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Posted the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Waltz did admit behind closed doors that all of this

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<v Speaker 2>was his fault. He fell on the sword kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>He did suggest that his the number for Jeffrey Goldberg

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<v Speaker 2>may have come from his assistant's phone. I guess that

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<v Speaker 2>was Alex Wong, the other guy with a funny name.

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<v Speaker 2>Former vice presidential nominee, Governor Tim Walls of Minnesota made

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<v Speaker 2>a joke by saying, Mike Waltz has left the chat.

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<v Speaker 1>He made a grave air in including a journalist in

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<v Speaker 1>that signal chat with this president. He did last longer

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<v Speaker 1>than Michael Flynn, who lasted about a month.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean he went.

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<v Speaker 2>He Trump when one hundred days without firing anybody and

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and one.

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<v Speaker 1>So it looks like Steve Whitkoff is a name that

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<v Speaker 1>keeps being talked about as a replacement. He's the one

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<v Speaker 1>in charge of negotiations with a Russia Iran Hamas, according

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<v Speaker 1>to people in the no Other possible contenders include Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>top policy chief, Stephen Miller and National Security Council Senior

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<v Speaker 1>Director for counter Terrorism Sebastian Gorka and Trump's Special Envoy

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<v Speaker 1>for Special Missions, Richard Grennell.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've pointed out a couple times now that these

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<v Speaker 2>news conferences that President Trump gives during meetings official meetings

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<v Speaker 2>with heads of state from different countries in the Oval Office,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, out in front of the fireplace there, and

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<v Speaker 2>how tacky those things look now in the White House

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<v Speaker 2>where there's some gold piece of some thing in every

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<v Speaker 2>corner of that room, all gold everything.

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<v Speaker 1>A cabinet maker from South Florida has worked on projects

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<v Speaker 1>at mar A Lago and we've seen the gold that

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<v Speaker 1>goes on there. John Iikart is his name. He helped

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<v Speaker 1>add custom made gold finishes to the Oval Office, including

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<v Speaker 1>gilded carvings for the fireplace mantle, the molding. He went

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<v Speaker 1>to Washington with Trump on Air Force one. Trump personally

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<v Speaker 1>oversaw the installation of the gold carvings on the mantle

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<v Speaker 1>in the Oval Office. He also brought gold cherubs from

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<v Speaker 1>mar A Lago to be installed in the White House

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Prominently displayed next to the resolute desk is

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<v Speaker 1>a large gold FIFA World Cup trophy. Trump has a

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<v Speaker 1>fixed a gold Trump crest over the door leading into

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<v Speaker 1>the White House from the colonnade. There are gold toaster

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<v Speaker 1>coasters excuse me, gold coasters with Trump's name on side

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<v Speaker 1>tables as well.

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<v Speaker 5>There is.

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<v Speaker 1>The Trump Near Assassination painting that is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>replacing Obama's portrait. I left a space there for people

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<v Speaker 1>to lose their minds one way or the other.

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<v Speaker 2>Smart There is a Declaration of Independence replica that exists

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<v Speaker 2>now in the Oval Office.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and then he also squeezed a picture of himself

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<v Speaker 1>in between Laura Bush and Hillary Clinton, like randomly, like

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<v Speaker 1>on the wall of first Ladies, he threw a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of himself in there.

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<v Speaker 2>I did notice yesterday, I've kind of made fun of

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<v Speaker 2>the whole Gulf of America map that keeps showing up

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<v Speaker 2>in these meeting in executive order signings that have nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with the Gulf of Mexico, the Gulf of America.

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<v Speaker 2>He still has the Gulf of America map.

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<v Speaker 1>He's very proud of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because he did yesterday at that cabinet meeting, each

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<v Speaker 2>position at the table in the cabinet room with all

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<v Speaker 2>of these cabinet members there, each position had its own

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<v Speaker 2>Golf of America baseball cap and with the number four.

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<v Speaker 1>The branding. The branding is always going to be top,

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<v Speaker 1>top notch. He wants to pave over the rose garden

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<v Speaker 1>less of a rose garden, more of a rose patio.

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<v Speaker 1>Who doesn't want to attack their outdoor space when they

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<v Speaker 1>move into somewhere new.

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<v Speaker 2>But he had the opportunity to do that before. He's

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<v Speaker 2>saying that it gets it can get muddy the rose garden.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's literally it's also us swamp Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, it is going to is gonna have moist ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Some somewhere. Chris and Carlo just perked up and was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what somebody talking about swamp? No, not moist Remember how

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<v Speaker 1>he was like a very big Washington historian.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, somewhere moist at. We haven't done the baby

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<v Speaker 2>animal bracket. We didn't do it this year, but Axe

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<v Speaker 2>Lottel came to familiarity through the baby Animal Bracket and

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<v Speaker 2>Axe Lottles.

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<v Speaker 1>We used to do some really dumb stuff on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad we're more high brow now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't wait for the Vulture and the puppet story.

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<v Speaker 2>Very high brow, but the axe Lottles are fighting back.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 1>It would be popes, the cardinals that are meeting to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about who's going to be the next pope and

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<v Speaker 1>all the rules about what they can and cannot eat.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think they're eating in there once they

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<v Speaker 1>kick this thing off May seventh.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping it's a fine white sauce can alfredo.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, with a wide noodle, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Wide noodle like a pupper Delli whatever that is, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Yeah, that's what I would eat if I was it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what you.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you were a cardinal. What would you wear underneath

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<v Speaker 1>your robes? Nothing?

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<v Speaker 3>Who's going to see?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you be a boxer or brief sky if you

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<v Speaker 1>had robes?

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<v Speaker 3>I just said I wouldn't wear anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, how many of them do you think wearing

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<v Speaker 1>nothing underneath that?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably plenty? Really, Yeah, what's the I don't know there's

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<v Speaker 2>enough robes. It's not like they're wearing mini skirts and

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<v Speaker 2>they got to be careful about right right.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes all the way down sitting there. My god,

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<v Speaker 1>what a freeing existence. Just to sit under your robes

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<v Speaker 1>free of undergarments sounds kind of nice.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of stories that were following and as I.

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<v Speaker 2>And astronauto missed out on the first all female space walkers.

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<v Speaker 1>Are your thighs sixty years later?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think there. I don't think many of them

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<v Speaker 1>Underwear is actually covered in the Bible underwear for priests

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<v Speaker 1>in particular. I just did a quick little deep dive

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<v Speaker 1>while you were giving away the money about priests and

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of underwear they wear.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a requirement or it's addressed. That sounds very old

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<v Speaker 3>testing and in.

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<v Speaker 1>Fact, Exodus twenty implies that priests don't wear underpants, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why they would access an altar via a ramp.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently King David would expose himself when doing cartwheels before

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<v Speaker 1>the arc, leading him to get into trouble with his wife.

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<v Speaker 1>McCall fascinating, is it? Yeah? Somebody doing cartwheels without underwear

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the arc. That's the Bible I can

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<v Speaker 3>No, it would just be like, what are you doing? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>One of the world's most endangered endangered amphibians has thrived

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<v Speaker 2>In a restored and artificial wetland close to Mexico City.

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<v Speaker 2>They fitted the animals with tidy little baby radio trackers

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<v Speaker 2>and found that they survived and they were able to

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<v Speaker 2>forage successfully both of their sites and in a good way.

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<v Speaker 3>In a good way, they gained weight.

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<v Speaker 2>Autonomous University of Baja said that this is an amazing result,

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<v Speaker 2>and the researcher suggests that axe lottle could be brought

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<v Speaker 2>back to its native habitat the waters of Zochi Milko,

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<v Speaker 2>for the mountains, used to team with axe lottles, But

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<v Speaker 2>as Mexico City grew, the pollution the organization a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of other pressures pushed axe lottles to the brink of extinction.

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<v Speaker 2>I do have a political update. Oh boy, this is

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<v Speaker 2>the Mike Waltz story. Yeah, apparently Donald Trump is suggesting

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<v Speaker 2>that Mike Waltz will now be nominated as the Ambassador

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<v Speaker 1>More importantly, Marco Rubio is going to be interim National

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<v Speaker 2>I I don't know what's happening. Is that the weirdest

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<v Speaker 2>is that the weirdest falling up that you've ever heard of.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Walls is not going to be National Security Advisor anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>but will be nominated as Ambassador to the United Nations.

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<v Speaker 2>The Marco Rubio thing may just be he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>Trump also doesn't give a crap about the United Nations.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a weird again.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Waltz is the guy that invited the journalist into

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<v Speaker 2>the supposedly secret signal app chat about our war plans

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<v Speaker 2>morning was that he was going to be bounced out

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<v Speaker 5>At least.

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<v Speaker 1>Aphanic was nominated to be Ambassador to the UN, but

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<v Speaker 1>that was withdrawn at the end of last month, at

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<v Speaker 1>time that Trump was thinking about reshuffling the deck with walls,

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<v Speaker 1>getting rid of walls. I mean, people have said that

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<v Speaker 3>Repurposing that's a good word.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess again, it looks like Mike Waltz will

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<v Speaker 2>not be National Security Advisor anymore, but will be nominated

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<v Speaker 2>as Ambassador to the United Nations.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, there are AI developments to tell you about. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>Visa is getting into the AI game. We'll tell you

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<v Speaker 4>When we return, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on

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<v Speaker 3>Again.

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<v Speaker 2>The big story is that Mike Waltz national Security Advisor,

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<v Speaker 2>is apparently going to be out. But we just learned

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<v Speaker 2>a short time ago that it appears that Mike Waltz

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<v Speaker 2>would be nominated to be the next Ambassador to the

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<v Speaker 2>United Nations.

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<v Speaker 1>More importantly, Trump says he is naming Secretary of State

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<v Speaker 1>Marco Rubio as acting National Security Advisor.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, there's a lot for that, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff still going on in that. We'll do strange science

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<v Speaker 2>coming up at twelve thirty, by the way. But in

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<v Speaker 2>the meantime, it's time for it's time for tech talk.

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<v Speaker 2>The machines are getting smarter.

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<v Speaker 3>This is tech talk.

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<v Speaker 1>I will just say this.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>We look, Secretary of State is a full job. Your

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<v Speaker 1>plate is full. Oh yeah, you don't have time to

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<v Speaker 3>You'll see, okay. Mark Saltzman joins us.

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<v Speaker 2>We talk things technology, and we've talked many, many times,

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<v Speaker 2>lots and lots of segments about artificial intelligence. And Meta

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<v Speaker 2>has launched its standalone AI app that's out there that's

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be sort of a rival to chat GPT.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's available now for iPhone and Android. There's a

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<v Speaker 6>web version as well, but the smartphone version allows you

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<v Speaker 6>to converse with it very naturally. You sign in with

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<v Speaker 6>your Instagram or Facebook info.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a similar experience actually to being able to access

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<v Speaker 6>the Meta AI within Instagram. And you may have already

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<v Speaker 6>seen this or WhatsApp or Facebook and if you dig

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<v Speaker 6>a little deep.

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<v Speaker 5>But this is a.

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<v Speaker 6>Standalone app and the idea is that, yeah, you can

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<v Speaker 6>converse with it. It sounds very human and like other

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<v Speaker 6>large language models, as it's called. You can ask it

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<v Speaker 6>to generate ideas. You could say, Hey, I'm having ten

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<v Speaker 6>people over for a dinner party this Friday. Three are vegetarian,

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<v Speaker 6>three are going to be kids, and you know six

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<v Speaker 6>are is my math off for our carnivores? What can

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<v Speaker 6>I make or cocktail ideas? Create images, create videos, create

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<v Speaker 6>itineraries for trips. But what's unique, I would argue is

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<v Speaker 6>it's twofold. One is that there's a new Discover section

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<v Speaker 6>that shows what your friends on Instagram and Facebook have

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<v Speaker 6>asked Meta ai to do, and then you can remix that.

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<v Speaker 6>Like if you have a friend that said show me,

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<v Speaker 6>you know a picture of Gary and Shannon on the moon,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know holding an American flag, then you can

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<v Speaker 6>take that and then tweak it some more, or take

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<v Speaker 6>a recipe that one of your friends asked it to

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<v Speaker 6>create and then remix that. So that's kind of neat

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<v Speaker 6>if with consent, you can opt to share what you're

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<v Speaker 6>leveraging AI for with your friends on Facebook and Instagram

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<v Speaker 6>through the Meta AI app. And then the other thing

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<v Speaker 6>that makes it unique is that you're allowing the AI

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<v Speaker 6>to comb through your social feed to get to better

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<v Speaker 6>know you. So when I downloaded Meta AI and I

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<v Speaker 6>installed it, it said, so, Mark, I see you like music

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<v Speaker 6>and you like festivals, music festivals. I see you were recently,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, on a trip in Italy, Like what did

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<v Speaker 5>So it tries to get.

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<v Speaker 6>To know you in order to curate more personalized results.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not for everyone. Some people may think it's creepy,

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<v Speaker 6>but you know, AI is definitely here, Tostay. I know

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of your listeners are probably rolling their eyes

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<v Speaker 6>because they're sick of hearing about it. But over a

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<v Speaker 6>billion people have already tried the Meta AI features baked

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<v Speaker 6>into Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp. And so the company Meta

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<v Speaker 6>thinks that a standalone AI Meta AI by itself could

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<v Speaker 6>be a really big player is and it's free.

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<v Speaker 3>Did they get some pushback? Did metiget pushback? I realize.

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<v Speaker 2>I recognize that if you search for something on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, the search bar is it says either ask

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<v Speaker 2>me AI or search And I've always been I've always

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<v Speaker 2>thought that that's kind of a dangerous thing to combine

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's not unlike Google.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know when's the last time you Googled something,

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<v Speaker 6>but if you ask a question, chances are Google Gemini

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<v Speaker 1>I first when Google did this, I said I hate this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never clicking on this, and then the next day

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it. And now I soak up all the

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<v Speaker 3>Well, well curated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well curated.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah for the user. But if you run a website.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's say I don't know Garon Channon, you guys have

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<v Speaker 6>a digital magazine, then you publish content. If Google and

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<v Speaker 6>Meta and other players are extracting your content and then

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<v Speaker 6>delivering the answers to someone who's asking a question, they're

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<v Speaker 6>not going to land on your website, and so that's

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<v Speaker 6>going to hurt your traffic, which could hurt your ad sales.

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<v Speaker 5>So there is a domino effect here.

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<v Speaker 6>You got to look at it kind of holistically as

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<v Speaker 6>a consumer, as a user, I think it's pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 6>But there's one thing AI hasn't been able to do,

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<v Speaker 6>I was in San Francisco yesterday at a Visa event

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<v Speaker 6>and it's called Product Drop, and they unveiled something called

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<v Speaker 6>Visa Intelligent Commerce. As the name suggests, your AI in

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<v Speaker 6>the near future could actually transact for you with consent

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<v Speaker 6>of course, So the idea is this, right now, let's

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<v Speaker 6>just stick with that itinerary example from earlier.

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<v Speaker 5>You want to go to Miami for three days.

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<v Speaker 6>You can ask like chat ept to create a three

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<v Speaker 6>flights and excursions, but it'll stop short from paying for

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<v Speaker 6>them for you, right Like it'll say if you ask

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<v Speaker 6>it to, okay, buy that hotel room that's perfect, it'll say, sorry,

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<v Speaker 6>I can't do that, and it'll send you to some

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<v Speaker 6>websites where you can do it. But what Visa and

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<v Speaker 6>other players are working on is the ability with consent

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<v Speaker 6>and partners like open ai who owns chatchypt and others,

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<v Speaker 6>But it'll first send it to you to say is

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<v Speaker 6>does this look good? And then you just give it

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<v Speaker 6>So that's going to save a lot of time. I

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<v Speaker 6>think that's going to save people a lot of time.

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<v Speaker 6>And if you're willing to trust Visa, I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 6>they've had what they've been around sixty years. They've processed

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<v Speaker 6>over almost three and a half trillion transactions over the

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<v Speaker 6>past quarter century alone. You know, if you're going to

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<v Speaker 6>do it. So yeah, there's I think it's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it could save time, but I mean there's got

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<v Speaker 2>to be a someone's going to do the psychological study

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<v Speaker 2>of it. Could cost more money because you believe the

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<v Speaker 2>computer's doing it in your best interest or the computer's

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<v Speaker 2>got your best choices, you know, based on whatever algorithm

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be using, and therefore you would be

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<v Speaker 2>more free with the money. You say, Okay, they must

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<v Speaker 2>know what they're talking about, and I must like this

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<v Speaker 2>product or whatever that is that they're going to get me.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I hear what you're saying. Gary.

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<v Speaker 6>There's obviously an element of trust here, and that's a

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<v Speaker 6>hurdle that many any company that's going to do what's

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<v Speaker 6>called agentic or agent based commerce is going to have

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<v Speaker 6>to wrestle with.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's going to send you a push to say

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<v Speaker 5>does this look good to you? And so you.

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<v Speaker 6>It's if you didn't have that safeguard in there, then

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<v Speaker 6>I would agree, Yeah, this can be a little bit

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<v Speaker 6>of a slippery slope. But is it like tapping? Do

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<v Speaker 6>you find you're spending more money because you can now

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<v Speaker 6>tap your credit card rather than insert it and put

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<v Speaker 6>in a pin? Are you do you do you find

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<v Speaker 6>I'm I'm just curious. Do you find you're spending more

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<v Speaker 6>because it's just so easy now to use your visa

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<v Speaker 6>at retail by tapping or your watch or your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>You think it's translating to me spending more? It is

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<v Speaker 1>definitely easier and quicker.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, And that's the idea, is that you want something

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<v Speaker 6>convenient and with AI being like your assistant, like now

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<v Speaker 6>being able to or soon within a couple of months,

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<v Speaker 6>they're telling me be able to transact for you, and

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<v Speaker 6>again you're still gonna have to aokay it. I think

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<v Speaker 6>that's a great time saver for me. I love that idea.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm busy if you set those thresholds ahead of time,

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<v Speaker 6>Like I want to stay in the hotel, but I

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<v Speaker 6>don't want to spend more than four hundred to night.

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<v Speaker 6>And I like that flight, but I don't want to

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<v Speaker 6>stop over or a red eye. If you set those

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<v Speaker 6>parameters in advance and an AI can get to know

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<v Speaker 6>you and remember things, then I think it's just going

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<v Speaker 6>to help us be a lot more efficient personally and professionally.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm all in on that. But yeah, there'll be

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<v Speaker 6>other players as well. But you know, Visa was first

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<v Speaker 6>out of the gate yesterday at this event, this product

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<v Speaker 6>drop showcase, which was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then everybody's gotta you know now that the

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<v Speaker 2>ones that come second have to try to find some

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<v Speaker 2>way to improve upon what they what Visa has done.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Mark, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 5>Appreciate it me too.

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<v Speaker 3>Cheers, guysers.

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<v Speaker 2>Make sure you follow Mark on x Marc Underscore, Saltzman

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<v Speaker 2>with a Z's got some great stuff up there, and

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<v Speaker 2>you can also check out the Tech It Out podcast

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<v Speaker 2>on the iHeart app.

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<v Speaker 1>You Are Not Alone A Wait, you are Staying home

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<v Speaker 1>is the new going out. It is a trend that's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just you.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 4>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump has announced his major shakeup in the national

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<v Speaker 2>security team today. He says he has tapped Mike Waltz

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<v Speaker 2>to be his United Nations Ambassador, while Secretary of State

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<v Speaker 2>Marco Rubio is going to be adding National Security Advisor,

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<v Speaker 2>at least on an acting basis, the President wrote on

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<v Speaker 2>truth Social from his time in uniform, on the battlefield,

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<v Speaker 2>in Congress, and as my National Security advice, Mike Wallace

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<v Speaker 2>has worked hard to put our nation's interests first. I

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<v Speaker 2>know he will do the same in his new role.

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<v Speaker 2>When it comes to Rubio, he said, Rubio will serve

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<v Speaker 2>as National Security Advisor while continuing his strong leadership at

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<v Speaker 2>the State Department. Together, we will continue to fight tirelessly

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<v Speaker 2>to make America and the world safe again. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for your attention to this matter. Would you like your

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<v Speaker 2>Jeopardy question?

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<v Speaker 3>I was just thinking about that.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you going to play? The thing?

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<v Speaker 3>I could if my computer would work.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 3>You just decided to.

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<v Speaker 1>Fail at things.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Thursday. It's what we do.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay. International disputes for four hundred dollars in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven, Thanks God's sticky between Nicaragua and Honduras over

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<v Speaker 1>a map on one of these items. The lot ofalists collect.

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<v Speaker 3>What does this stamp?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Good job?

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks look at you, knowing.

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<v Speaker 5>Harry looks like the poor man's James Vanderbeek.

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<v Speaker 1>No, James Vanderbeek, I don't find attractive. He's not well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's well, he's not well.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's talking about him not being.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, I know that, but I'm just saying there's.

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<v Speaker 1>Too much well, I don't want to put anyone down.

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<v Speaker 1>There's too much area on his.

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<v Speaker 3>Or mind. I shouldn't speak answer.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the devastating Oh, it's co rectal cancer. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not good.

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<v Speaker 3>No, did you say co erectal cancer? Hey, that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I know it's never good, but pretty dire, it's Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's awful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I guess a lot of people from Dawson's Creek,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the cast members with him. They've all

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<v Speaker 2>kind of done sort of informal reunions recently.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's awful, hang out with him. That is awful. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for lifting all right, show.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not he's the one who said I was a foreman.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you didn't have to bring up the cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>New survey finds those who have a preference seventy two

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<v Speaker 2>percent say they will stay in with friends whenever possible.

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<v Speaker 3>Just twenty eight percent prefer a night out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it may I've I think I've always

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<v Speaker 1>preferred hanging out with friends, just like a sleepover whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>going back to when I was a kid. It's always

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<v Speaker 1>more fun than I mean, going out's fun too, but

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<v Speaker 1>especially now, I just it's more fun to get together

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<v Speaker 1>just at someone's house.

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<v Speaker 2>They said that respondents report uh spending anywhere from ten

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<v Speaker 2>minutes to two hours preparing their house ahead of guests.

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<v Speaker 1>I think also when you're single, it's fun to go

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<v Speaker 1>out right because you can meet people together.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a group of singles going out sure, like a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of girlfriends going out now, they said.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty three percent say hosting at home is a great

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<v Speaker 2>way to save money. Forty seven percent says it's easier

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<v Speaker 2>to hear each other.

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<v Speaker 3>That has because it makes.

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<v Speaker 1>Me happy, because I feel deaf all the time. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a hard time hearing people in public or elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a couple of great restaurants that we go

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<v Speaker 2>to and some that we avoid simply because for that reason.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, and that's not I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 2>an old person thing or it's just I'm not there

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<v Speaker 2>to yell at people.

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<v Speaker 5>I will.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the last time, I think it was with

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<v Speaker 1>Joquan and I'm out dinner and I literally had to

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<v Speaker 1>do this and cut my ear to hear her because

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<v Speaker 1>I could not hear. And I kept going, what what

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like it's so loud, I forget where we were,

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<v Speaker 1>like sushi Roku or something like that. But like it

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<v Speaker 1>was just and and I don't care anymore, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>will cup my ear in public and look like a

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<v Speaker 1>fool just so I can hear the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also with you know, we had an instant We

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<v Speaker 2>had friends over last night and one of our friends

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<v Speaker 2>was talking about a series of health issues that her

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<v Speaker 2>mother's been going through, and it was it's hard, and

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<v Speaker 2>you were like, what, yeah, yelling. I kept turning the

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<v Speaker 2>music up to make it feel like we were out.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you don't want to have those conversations out

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<v Speaker 2>at a restaurant or hanging out at a bar those, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean it's not every time, those those conversations

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<v Speaker 2>don't come up every time, but in the event that

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<v Speaker 2>they do, you're not going to want to spill all

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Out, right, That's why you invited James Vanderbeek over to

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<v Speaker 1>your home.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, just to give him a safe space. It's

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<v Speaker 3>funny also that.

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<v Speaker 1>This everything is so much more expensive now too, to

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<v Speaker 1>go out, just to go out to dinner with your

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<v Speaker 1>husband or your wife in your case, it's like ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>It's everything, drinks, food, every spending one hundred bucks on

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<v Speaker 1>an It's a chicken for what thirty dollars a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of I mean I could do that for eight dollars

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<v Speaker 1>at home. What are we doing here, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>This is also kind of funny because this survey was

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<v Speaker 2>conducted on behalf of airwik and it found that eighty

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<v Speaker 2>two percent of people actively consider how their home smells

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<v Speaker 2>before they invite people.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm always worried about that because that you get

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<v Speaker 1>used to the smell of your home and then you wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>is it not a good smell?

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<v Speaker 3>My nose blind exactly. I think that all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm terrified I do too.

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<v Speaker 2>But we had made dinner, so my wife and our

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<v Speaker 2>place smelled like a fresh steak and cauliflower.

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<v Speaker 3>Which I guess cauliflower can sometimes bill yeah, a little farty,

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<v Speaker 3>But it wasn't. Everything was great. Everything was good. I

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<v Speaker 3>know you were concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh, it's already the huge twelve o'clock hour barreling down.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh we get that far with somebody not coming down

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<v Speaker 2>the hallway and telling us to knock it off.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary and Shannon will continue right after this. You've been

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<v Speaker 2>listening to The Gary and Shannon Show. You can always

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<v Speaker 2>hear us live on KFI AM six forty nine am

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<v Speaker 2>to one pm every Monday through Friday, and anytime on

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