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<v Speaker 1>Shout out Weezer in town.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the weekend, attended Kilby Court with a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>children that were my son's age and younger, but showed

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<v Speaker 2>up early. Didn't make the Friday night till which apparently

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<v Speaker 2>was the best night. But Saturday, show up at about

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<v Speaker 2>four thirty five hanging out with the youngs, and then

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<v Speaker 2>Weezer plays and the other old showed up, so that

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<v Speaker 2>was nice. You typically will attend to Kilby Block party

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<v Speaker 2>from time to time.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you present at all? I was lucky enough this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard from home. Oh you live close enough that

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't have to.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard that concert while I was doing my garden

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<v Speaker 2>last night, so it was actually kind of nice. And

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<v Speaker 2>also Travis Tritt wasn't there. Yeah, Travis Tritt is he alive?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so shout out Travis Trick On a Monday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Parks, what's up, man, I'll tell you what I

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<v Speaker 2>h I finished my Sunday nights the same way all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. I usually prefer to spend it with Scott

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<v Speaker 2>van pelt not literally, that'd be weird, but hopefully it's

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<v Speaker 2>Van Peltz Center and last night hang it out about

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<v Speaker 2>fall asleep and they say top ten plays. I'm like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll check out the top ten plays. Who doesn't love

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<v Speaker 2>the top ten plays? And then prior to number one,

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<v Speaker 2>they said, let's go to minor league baseball. And I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if the Bees are involved. Sure enough, I

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<v Speaker 2>hear your voice in the background. And the number one

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<v Speaker 2>play on se top ten was a Bes player making

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<v Speaker 2>a great catch in the outfield.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's awesome. Nico Cavadas, rob's a home run. Nico

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<v Speaker 3>gets traded to this team last year. Middle of the year,

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<v Speaker 3>Red Sox trade him him Matthew Lugo, who's now with

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<v Speaker 3>the Angels.

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<v Speaker 1>Nico comes and he's a part of the team.

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<v Speaker 3>South Bend, Indiana kid grew up dreaming of going to

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<v Speaker 3>Notre Dame, went to games baseball, football, watched Jeff Samarja.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole thing has stories. Scholars, Yeah, good call. He

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<v Speaker 3>dated a girl who lived in the Central time zone.

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<v Speaker 3>He lived in the Eastern, which was ten minutes apart

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<v Speaker 3>because they're right.

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<v Speaker 1>By the ball. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So he has stories that are just endless and are funny.

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<v Speaker 3>And the cool thing with him is I joke with him.

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<v Speaker 3>Your timing is so great because you were always on

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<v Speaker 3>time on accident because you would gain an hour and

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<v Speaker 3>he would be like, no, I'd show up an hour

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<v Speaker 3>early for stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It was annoying. Right, So, when he's.

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<v Speaker 3>At Notre Dame, a coach named Link Jarrett comes along.

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<v Speaker 3>They're one of the worst defensive teams, flips him around

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<v Speaker 3>to being one of the best defensive teams, and he

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<v Speaker 3>becomes very underrated, in my opinion, defensive player, first.

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<v Speaker 1>Base, mostly here and there.

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<v Speaker 3>But then they put him in the outfield, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, this guy could play some outfield. This guy,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're watching it in workouts and all of that,

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<v Speaker 3>You're going, this dude's I don't think he's I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think people would look at him and think, oh, this

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be a dynamic outfield player, a player

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<v Speaker 3>in the outfield. And sure enough, yesterday he's out and right,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's his first game in right, this year's

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<v Speaker 3>play mostly left. Most of the I have to go

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<v Speaker 3>back and look at it. Some of the games kind

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<v Speaker 3>of blur together. But as it's going back, I'm like, Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's going to get out. And then as

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<v Speaker 3>I'm watching him time the leap, I'm going, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you see his athleticism, his ability to reach over.

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<v Speaker 1>He couldn't have been more perfect with the timing. It

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<v Speaker 1>was awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a great way. They lost yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't have a lost like seven to one, but

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<v Speaker 3>that was like a stellar highlight, one of many great

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<v Speaker 3>defensive highlights for the team. But that was so cool

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<v Speaker 3>to call to watch and then to know his background

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<v Speaker 3>which led up to that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>How you know, if at all, how does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, do you guys get a call from ESPN like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we want to use this clip. I mean, are you

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<v Speaker 2>aware that you're about to be calling the top play

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<v Speaker 2>on Sports Center that night?

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<v Speaker 3>Or you weren't it in real time like the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of it. I didn't know it would be number one.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, oh, that's got to be a candidate for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>And what you do is in your tweets and all

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<v Speaker 3>of the communication you hashtag sc top ten and Sports

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<v Speaker 3>Center and all that and so yeah, and I immediately

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<v Speaker 3>because the feed.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what would happen this year.

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<v Speaker 3>I started saying, hey, look, when we get a really

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<v Speaker 3>dynamic call, let's have a communications situation where we can

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<v Speaker 3>get our call over the MiLB call because they always

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<v Speaker 3>take home the home feed because that would just normally

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<v Speaker 3>be on the home feed and that's short. I was like, no, like,

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<v Speaker 3>let's get our call for big home runs and big

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<v Speaker 3>things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that was a gimme.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a good system and it got processed right

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<v Speaker 3>away and then communicated to Sports Center right away, and

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<v Speaker 3>it just increases your chances for something like that. To

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<v Speaker 3>give love to Cavadis, to the Bees and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a whole organization.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was cool.

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<v Speaker 2>John Ollinger, John Oliver, excuse me not John Hollinger. He

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<v Speaker 2>writes for The Athletic John Oliver hosts this show called

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<v Speaker 2>Last Week Tonight on HBO. It airs every Sunday, and

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<v Speaker 2>John's a really funny you know, it's a lot of satire,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of political satire.

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<v Speaker 1>But he did last night. He did an entire segment

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<v Speaker 1>on minor league baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>And he had prior to a couple of shows ago

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<v Speaker 2>because he went to Who's this super popular league baseball

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<v Speaker 2>team that everybody crash Rocket City and there are okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>he went to a game or something. He was like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is awesome. More people should go to minor league

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<v Speaker 2>baseball games. So he offered on his show to rebrand

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<v Speaker 2>an entire minor league baseball team. He's going to rename it,

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to give it a theme night, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to create a mascot. And so last night, I

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<v Speaker 2>think they landed on the Erie, Pennsylvania baseball team. They're

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<v Speaker 2>going to rebrand entirely. But he did this, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was actually kind of cool. I didn't realize he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to do this. He kind of made this plea like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you live in a city with minor league baseball,

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<v Speaker 2>go support these teams because they've done all of this research.

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<v Speaker 2>And as a result of the research, they were going

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<v Speaker 2>to games. They were talking to front offices, they were

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<v Speaker 2>talking to fans, and it was kind of like this

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<v Speaker 2>last bastion of sport that isn't overly tainted with economic

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<v Speaker 2>confusion and capitalists undertones. It's just like a pure way

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<v Speaker 2>to go enjoy baseball. I thought it was kind of cool,

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<v Speaker 2>like and obviously that robrates with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it really really does.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I think so many people who work in

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<v Speaker 3>the Pacific Coast League. Steve and I were obviously close.

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<v Speaker 3>Steve Cloukey and I so many of us that work there.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why it's a clubhouse feel because it doesn't have

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<v Speaker 3>some of those undertones you're talking about. You deal with

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<v Speaker 3>far less of the unnecessary bs. There's always weird stuff

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta dealt, but like, you get to really connect

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<v Speaker 3>with people in a great way, and the fans too,

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<v Speaker 3>and the whole thing. And the fans love the players

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<v Speaker 3>because we know, with the way it works, the chances

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<v Speaker 3>of them being there next year are next to not

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<v Speaker 3>because they're going to go to a different team, or

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<v Speaker 3>go to the Major Leagues or go somewhere like it's

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<v Speaker 3>just you shuffle the deck every year and the roster

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<v Speaker 3>changes so much year to year, so they when they

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<v Speaker 3>get a moment with the player, they love it. And

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<v Speaker 3>then on top of that, the ballpark becomes important. The mascot,

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<v Speaker 3>the trends, the traditions, that the things like that make

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<v Speaker 3>it great. Baseball's already great like that, but when you

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<v Speaker 3>mix it in with something beautiful like what we had

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<v Speaker 3>at thirteen hundred South and West Temple and now what

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<v Speaker 3>we have in Daybreak, like it's you can't beat it

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<v Speaker 3>because it's so special to be around. So I've worked

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<v Speaker 3>in the NBA TV Radio, you know, mc PA. I've

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<v Speaker 3>done all the different arts and worked in different leagues.

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<v Speaker 3>There's nothing like the field of minor league.

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<v Speaker 1>Base tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't have any data at my disposal with this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, my sincere hope is that the Millers endeavor

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<v Speaker 2>to bring major League baseball here it comes to fruition.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it would be so great, and obviously

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<v Speaker 2>through my prism, uh, last night, after getting through you

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<v Speaker 2>know the NBA stuff, I watched Game seven on the

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<v Speaker 2>NHL side, and then some of the Scheffler highlights I

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<v Speaker 2>throw on Mets Yankees subway series.

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<v Speaker 1>My guy Bellinger goes deep, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Grand Slam, Ultimate Yankee Stadium wall scrapers, and I just, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>just give me the lefty that can hit it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just right out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Just give me the lefty that you know can hit

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<v Speaker 2>it two hundred and fifty feet. We're good. But and

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<v Speaker 2>I love that the Mets are good right now because

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<v Speaker 2>Porter is gonna be like, hey, we have a chance,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they don't because they're the Mets. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't watched a lot of baseball yet this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been NBA playoff centric or whatever. But every time

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<v Speaker 2>I tune into a game and really give it my attention,

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<v Speaker 2>because it isn't a sport that's designed for the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four to seven house of highlights like you have. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna watch a baseball game, it requires some focus

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<v Speaker 2>and some attention. So it is a different Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a different time in our society because we all

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<v Speaker 2>have computers in our hand, and our intention spans are

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<v Speaker 2>like this. And I noticed it with myself, like even

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm watching a movie, like, wait, this is two

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<v Speaker 2>hours long, I'm just gonna go watch the show that's

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<v Speaker 2>thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, our attention spans are shorter.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know what that's done for the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>line of interest for Major League Baseball. But do you

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<v Speaker 2>have any insight as to the health of the sport

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<v Speaker 2>right now? Not just the game that's a great game,

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<v Speaker 2>but at the health of Major League Baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think you look at how you would

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<v Speaker 3>compare it to other stuff like the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly it's going to take a back seat. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just you.

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<v Speaker 3>It has so many games, and when you talk about

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<v Speaker 3>being there in person, it's a great experience. TV and

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<v Speaker 3>radio is obviously different. It's one of those that you

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<v Speaker 3>have on the background for radio if you want. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I've always loved one. I'll prep for a game if

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<v Speaker 3>there's day games on, I love my Wednesday Thursday games.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll have it on in the background, like listening to

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<v Speaker 3>different broadcasters, just hearing the sounds of it's it's just nice.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice to have.

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<v Speaker 3>When it comes to something that you are going to

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<v Speaker 3>attach yourself to. You're not attaching yourself to it going okay,

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's for the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's something to have on, something to have on

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<v Speaker 3>Night, like you're talking about, right, and so the the eat, sleep, breathe,

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<v Speaker 3>but it is healthy. There is attraction to the star

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<v Speaker 3>and like now, the game moves a lot better and

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<v Speaker 3>now to the game and some feel, which is great.

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<v Speaker 1>You've noticed that.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to that. But I do think it's healthy overall.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think obviously the revenues look terrific in terms

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<v Speaker 1>Just not and it doesn't It doesn't have to be.

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<v Speaker 2>And on the landscape of the hierarchy, it's probably still three.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably football, basketball than baseball. Maybe hockey's gained some

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of where I've landed on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this, even though I've asked you

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<v Speaker 2>understands our market. Are you confident that will support the

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<v Speaker 2>Major League Baseball team should we get it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I am.

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<v Speaker 3>No, very confident because the same reason why they supported

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<v Speaker 3>then another one lives in Long Island, and he was like,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not I've been out there. It doesn't really feel

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<v Speaker 3>going to lie to you and be like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not. It's not. People were learning the game

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<v Speaker 1>as the season went along. By the way. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make them less of a fan, doesn't make them not intelligent.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it just this is not a place where kids

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<v Speaker 3>played a lot of hockey. We can just call it

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<v Speaker 3>like it is. But they supported it because it was

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<v Speaker 3>their team. They love events, and they they are totally

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<v Speaker 3>get behind that team. And then, as it turned out,

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<v Speaker 3>way that people were able to just say like, oh okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm learning about this part of the game. And you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, Nat was never a hockey fan. Tough are

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<v Speaker 3>off sides icing and just like that loved it, big

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<v Speaker 3>Blackhawks fan. Good went to more Blackhawks games than any

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<v Speaker 1>It was awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>But for a lot of people here that can be

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing, and it's another great enjoyable experience. Here's

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<v Speaker 3>the other thing. It would own the summer. It would

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely own the summer. So would it sell out every

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<v Speaker 3>game like you would say the NHL, Well, no, you

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<v Speaker 3>have eighty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody sells out. Everybody sells baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's I love it when people are like, I

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<v Speaker 3>could see them having a tough time selling out every game.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody does.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yes, and nobody does. And so you get two

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<v Speaker 3>months of dicey weather. You've got a lot of games.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do think you would see a ton of

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<v Speaker 3>great energy and passion towards it, like you were seeing

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<v Speaker 3>energy and passion towards now the the Utah Mammoth so.

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<v Speaker 2>And summer night's here rule I mean amazing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's one of the things I love about the

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<v Speaker 2>soccer experience. And I tease those guys over there because

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<v Speaker 2>they're always like, hey, you come to the game. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>is it's seven degrees yet, because I'm not coming until

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<v Speaker 2>it's warm, because I'm not sitting outside in cold weather,

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<v Speaker 2>but a warm Utah summer night out at America First Field.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if you're not a soccer fan, you will enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>the experience. And you don't have to be a baseball

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<v Speaker 2>fan to go sit outside. You talked about the sunsets

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<v Speaker 2>at the new Ballpark last time.

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<v Speaker 1>Grab a hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Dog and a pop whatever your thing is, and just

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy the experience. One more thing here and then we'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about what you guys have coming up. So Rob

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<v Speaker 2>Manfred has said we are not expanding until the new

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<v Speaker 1>The good news is that's next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So December one, twenty twenty six, the new CBA

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<v Speaker 2>and Major League Baseball expires, and then we'll see what

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<v Speaker 2>they do as far as expansion on the rise. And

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<v Speaker 2>we know the cities, Nashville, Portland, the usual suspects. There's

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<v Speaker 2>always the possibility of the Arizona Coyotes being owned by

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<v Speaker 2>an idiot and needing a new home and suddenly sal

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<v Speaker 1>There's the Tampa Bay stuff that's out there.

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<v Speaker 2>The A's look like they're going to Vegas, although that's

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<v Speaker 2>not done. What's your understanding about where we're at in

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<v Speaker 2>the process of getting baseball here to our market.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not being a homer with this leader in

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<v Speaker 1>the clubhouse. Leader in the clubhouse.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, you know, there's a ton of

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<v Speaker 3>variables that come with stuff like this over time, so

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<v Speaker 3>things can always change. But I think they're the leader

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<v Speaker 3>in the clubhouse because all the circus, all.

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<v Speaker 1>The nonsense is out of the way.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're going to expand, it is the place because

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<v Speaker 3>you have the ownership, you have alignment with where they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to have the stadium, all of the details on

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<v Speaker 3>how they're going to fund it, all the nonsense, all

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<v Speaker 3>the headaches, all the forty seven chain emails, and the

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<v Speaker 3>hour and a half long meetings, bureaucracy. Yeah, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>the last minute, Oh crap, Hey, by the ways, all

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<v Speaker 3>that stuff gone. And there is something too, having already

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<v Speaker 3>put so many other plans in place to then let

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<v Speaker 3>this be a smooth landing, as.

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<v Speaker 1>Smooth as you can have. Steah.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, the other thing I try to tell people too,

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<v Speaker 3>because think well, how long do you think it would take.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, well, you got to remember when Tampa and

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona had their spansion teams, it was four years later.

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<v Speaker 3>They had opening day four years when it was like

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<v Speaker 3>if I remember it was announced, it was like four

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<v Speaker 3>years later.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so that's a gap.

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<v Speaker 3>So it would have to be hey, we're expanding, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>this is where we're doing it. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>it would be four years, but that's what it was

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<v Speaker 3>back then, So that takes some time. The other thing

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<v Speaker 3>is if you expand, so people look at what happened

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<v Speaker 3>with Ryan Smith and the Utah Mammoth. Now, great work

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<v Speaker 3>to quickly turn it around, I mean amazing, Like they

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<v Speaker 3>deserve a ton of credit for that. It was also

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<v Speaker 3>easier that it was a purchased team, right because now

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<v Speaker 3>everything it's not straight turnkey, but a lot of things

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<v Speaker 3>are done in this situation. Where are your minor league affiliates,

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<v Speaker 3>where's your spring training facility? Where I mean there's I

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<v Speaker 3>mean the stadium. Obviously there's a ton of things that

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<v Speaker 3>all come into play with an expansion team, So.

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<v Speaker 1>All right to them before you catch a break.

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<v Speaker 2>The Saal lid Bees and Miller Sports and Entertainment invite

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, great address, easy to five.

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<v Speaker 3>It's my mom's pass code for her phone, so she

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<v Speaker 2>I probably should not say my father's cell phone on air,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is amazingly easy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, I'll tell you what. Like I love with

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<v Speaker 3>the new gear and all of that, but the varieties

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<v Speaker 3>of the new gear, you know, a ton of different

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<v Speaker 3>For Like, I'm wearing this polo and this is what

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<v Speaker 3>the old gear. I haven't looked on a new one

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<v Speaker 3>as well. But then all the different hats, that's what

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<v Speaker 3>I like too. So I don't know about you. I

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<v Speaker 3>there's a natural expiration date. Like I was a flat

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<v Speaker 3>brim guy when I was younger. But whenever I see

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a problem with it. It's just that

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't look like you have a smaller face. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>To be younger than thirty five.

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<v Speaker 3>All I know is every time I put one on,

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't need it, they've got it. So go

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<v Speaker 2>or online at Cortland Roofing dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>This is launched high in Deep to Rite by Daniel Johnson, going.

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<v Speaker 1>Back as gavanas at the Wall Laps Up and he

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<v Speaker 1>brought it back. Hey, rocking on the short.

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<v Speaker 3>Sidewall over by the right Bill pull Man, Kenny tuck

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<v Speaker 3>it Away.

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Parks is live in studio, good enough to join

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<v Speaker 2>us two weeks in a row. Easton Folster, who's the

439
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<v Speaker 2>executive director of the UGA, will join us in a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. Scottie Scheffler was with his third major. Easton

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<v Speaker 2>has requested space to talk about the Knicks he gives

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<v Speaker 2>even though he's a local guy. He's a fan of

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Knicks. But we will talk little golf.

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<v Speaker 2>Tony fi And now finishes nineteen tied for the nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>over the weekend and takes home an extra two hundred k.

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<v Speaker 2>Must be nice to finish nineteenth and something and make

447
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<v Speaker 2>two hundred thousand dollars. Let's get Tony's mic on right. Yeah,

448
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<v Speaker 2>that's all you gotta do, top to top two hundred

449
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<v Speaker 2>k and be like, you know, I'm not the best,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not the worst. I made two hundred thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good weekends, a great week top twenty at

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<v Speaker 2>a major.

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<v Speaker 1>So have you had a chance to meet Tony just

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<v Speaker 1>the nicest kid. Yeah, I've crossed pass with a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>He and I know a lot of the same people,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, crazy, Yeah, but no, I've never really gotten

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<v Speaker 3>to know him, but I know of him, and we've been.

458
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<v Speaker 1>Around each other before. We know who each other are,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will. Although he who.

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Parks, is that the voice of the Bees, I'm

461
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<v Speaker 2>sure tell the guy who did the produce.

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<v Speaker 1>Race all those years Tony probably came out to a

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<v Speaker 1>game or two of the ballpark, I would.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine, Oh yeah, he and his absolutely, But obviously you

465
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<v Speaker 3>had that great connection with Ron McBride. Yeah, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 3>it just good people that know good people and and

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<v Speaker 3>yeah so I and I've always been a huge fan

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<v Speaker 3>of always.

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<v Speaker 1>Rooted them on. Do you play golf? I don't know

470
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<v Speaker 1>this about you.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you ever play any golf? Do you watch at it?

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<v Speaker 3>Don't watch it so much. I've got so much going on,

473
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<v Speaker 3>but like I track it. I keep an eye on it. Yeah, yeah,

474
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<v Speaker 3>I like to follow it. And then to me, it's

475
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<v Speaker 3>always about the who you know. You and I always

476
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<v Speaker 3>had such odd schedules, so we never golf together, and

477
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<v Speaker 3>even when we were at the tournaments or whatever, like,

478
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<v Speaker 3>we would be offset on the timing that we're in

479
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<v Speaker 3>the air. So but yeah, you'd be the kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not just being nice. You'd be fun of golf with.

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<v Speaker 3>Just hang out, talk with for eighteen holes and joke

482
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<v Speaker 3>about Britton Johnson for at least three of Oh, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Can do that even if we're not playing golf. I

484
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<v Speaker 2>will tell you thank you. First of all, I think

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a good time on the golf course.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm not playing well, I tend to be a

488
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<v Speaker 2>little grumpy. I have changed my view. First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>there's an economic factor that comes into play if you're

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<v Speaker 2>breaking golf clubs left and right. So my goal this year,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've told my buddies, so I play golf with

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<v Speaker 2>the over under for broken clubs is one point five,

493
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<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna give myself grace to maybe break a club.

494
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<v Speaker 2>My goal is to just not break more than one.

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<v Speaker 2>And so far it's only May. I have not broken

496
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<v Speaker 2>a golf club yet. But as I started, look, I

497
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<v Speaker 2>am an aging competitor trying to understand my real lot

498
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<v Speaker 2>in life. There's no reason to get competitive when you're

499
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<v Speaker 2>play monopoly with your eight year old nephew. You don't

500
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<v Speaker 2>need to throw the board. Okay, that's dumb, and you're

501
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<v Speaker 2>out there to have fun. So I'm just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy the journey instead of getting frustrated if I don't

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<v Speaker 2>play well. But once I started really honing in on

504
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<v Speaker 2>golf and like this is fun. I love the challenge,

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<v Speaker 2>and I started getting better. I bought new clubs, took

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<v Speaker 2>some lessons. When that endeavor wouldn't pay off, and I

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<v Speaker 2>would have one of those rounds where I'm like, have

508
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<v Speaker 2>you ever done this before, clubs would fly and I've

509
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<v Speaker 2>definitely not a good time when that happens. But I

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<v Speaker 2>am learning, Tony. I'm trying to evolve and be better

511
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<v Speaker 2>and kind of keep the tantrum to a minimum. I

512
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<v Speaker 2>uh yeah for me.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's where it happens. You know you're not good,

514
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<v Speaker 3>you go out there, Hey, you're having.

515
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<v Speaker 1>A good time. You know it's all good. Then you

516
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<v Speaker 1>actually start to improve.

517
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<v Speaker 3>Then you actually see like wait, I'm shut that out,

518
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<v Speaker 3>like I've I've kind of got that down. Then you

519
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<v Speaker 3>sit there and waste thirty five minutes in a conversation

520
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<v Speaker 3>with the buddy talking about how you dropped one perfectly

521
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<v Speaker 3>on the pool table on six at Nibley or whatever,

522
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<v Speaker 3>you know, whatever your story is.

523
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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm going and that was thirty five minutes.

524
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<v Speaker 3>I'm not getting back, and I really obsessed about that

525
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<v Speaker 3>more than I should have. And then I go out

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<v Speaker 3>there and start perceivingly regressing, and then I started feeling

527
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<v Speaker 3>myself get frustrated.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, don't, yep, don't not worth it.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have the money to keep up with this

530
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<v Speaker 3>game anyway, Like, don't, just don't because I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to spend the money to get the left I just don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And it's a big time crunch. I mean, excuse me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's very time consuming. So it asks a lot

535
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<v Speaker 2>of your time, it asks a lot of your paycheck.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a cheap thing to do. But yeah, as

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<v Speaker 2>you start to get a little bit better. The other

538
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<v Speaker 2>weird thing is there'll be a round where something clicks

539
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<v Speaker 2>in your head where you're like, I've got to pull

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<v Speaker 2>down with my left I've got to get my left

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<v Speaker 2>hip out of the way. And then you're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing that and it's working. And then the next

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<v Speaker 2>round you show up and you're like, okay, pull down

544
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<v Speaker 2>with your left, get your left tip out of the way,

545
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<v Speaker 2>get the shoulder turn, and none of that works, and

546
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<v Speaker 2>you're like, Okay, I've got to recalibrate and figure out

547
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<v Speaker 2>what I have to do today, even though what I

548
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<v Speaker 2>had to do last week does it's not working anymore

549
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<v Speaker 2>because and that, honestly is what is addicted me to

550
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<v Speaker 2>the sport, right, the mental challenge. And I didn't have

551
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<v Speaker 2>really a competitive outlet because I last played competitive basketball

552
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<v Speaker 2>in my twenties.

553
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<v Speaker 1>I broke my leg. I'm like, I'm not doing this anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like looking for a competitive outlet, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's what golf is kind of okay, has been for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's what I love about play by play every

557
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<v Speaker 1>day is that's what it is for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh huh, Like I compete with myself, Like I have

559
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<v Speaker 3>a vision, I have preparation, I have everything that you know, fundamentals.

560
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<v Speaker 3>I love the art of constantly an effort or with

561
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<v Speaker 3>an unquenchable thirst to improve and to just minimize the

562
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<v Speaker 3>distance between where I am and where I want to

563
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<v Speaker 3>be more and more every day. That to me, there

564
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<v Speaker 3>is nothing like that. You wake up with that fire,

565
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<v Speaker 3>you feel that fire, and then you you know, let's say,

566
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<v Speaker 3>let's say you had a good day with it like

567
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<v Speaker 3>you would on the golf course you have a good day.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool thing is you got another game tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say, you know, didn't go quite as well as

570
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<v Speaker 3>you thought and for whatever reason, just didn't feel right,

571
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<v Speaker 3>didn't deliver it right, I don't know whatever, you know what,

572
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<v Speaker 3>got another game tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love that about play by play. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you mispronounce the name, you're not breaking your microphone. No,

575
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not taking off the headste do you miss a call?

576
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<v Speaker 2>And you're not breaking your equipment? What's the you know what?

577
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<v Speaker 2>This is a dangerous question.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever. It's Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just get asked like, have you ever witnessed a

580
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<v Speaker 2>local broadcast or meltdown? Yes, you feel like you can

581
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<v Speaker 2>share it? No, I didn't think so That's why it

582
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<v Speaker 2>was a dangerous question.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it is trying to see.

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<v Speaker 3>The toughest one was where somebody would be upset and

585
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<v Speaker 3>you could actually understand why they're upset, and then other

586
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<v Speaker 3>times it was like, no, you're you're taking it out

587
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<v Speaker 3>on this person and you're justifying your behavior. The hardest

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<v Speaker 3>part I think in this industry was me saying you've

589
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<v Speaker 3>explained your behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you excusing your behavior? Well? No, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, so you are excusing your behavior, right, because

592
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<v Speaker 3>if anybody ever treated you like that, you would cry

593
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<v Speaker 3>in a corner for three months. And okay, right, so

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<v Speaker 3>you chose to treat them like that because they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Them and you're you, and you knew these.

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<v Speaker 3>People over here don't have the courage to in any

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<v Speaker 3>way rectify that.

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<v Speaker 2>How the slight inkling that I know who you're talking about,

599
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<v Speaker 2>and just watching the defensiveness, watching the and then watching

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<v Speaker 2>the fear based proposition, it's like, don't, don't, don't, don't,

601
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<v Speaker 2>but you know what you did.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just because I care so much. No, No, that's

603
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<v Speaker 1>not it. Passion is not poor behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>You're telling a truth to mask the truth. So let's

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<v Speaker 3>talk about the truth. And that was always like yeah,

606
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<v Speaker 3>that was always a tough one. But no, but there

607
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<v Speaker 3>were times where people would be frustrated or mad and

608
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<v Speaker 3>they're just mad about the situation and I'm like, yeah,

609
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<v Speaker 3>I'm like no, no, hey, you know like you care,

610
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<v Speaker 3>you're into it, it matters to you. And in those situations,

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<v Speaker 3>I was always like, great, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that to me, like if a golfer's upset is

613
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<v Speaker 3>mad about the situation, fine, but if somebody's competing and

614
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<v Speaker 3>they're you know, completely a detriment to the to other

615
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<v Speaker 3>people and things like that, and then justifying it and

616
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<v Speaker 3>then couching it is but we're still a team, and

617
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<v Speaker 3>no you're not. And you're successful in spite of that behavior,

618
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<v Speaker 3>not because of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I always get a kick when I hear like, no,

620
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<v Speaker 2>it's just it's just overly passionate. Oh so he's an ass,

621
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<v Speaker 2>that's what you're saying. Like you'll like Draymond Green's overly passionate,

622
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<v Speaker 2>Like I love Draymond as a player, but when he

623
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<v Speaker 2>when he when he crosses that line. Passion is not

624
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<v Speaker 2>an excuse for poor behavior.

625
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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's it's like, Okay, Michael Jordan slaps Steve Kerr. Right,

626
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<v Speaker 3>guess what Michael Jordan did owned it? Yeah, he owned it.

627
00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:19.880
<v Speaker 3>And Phil Jackson also there was like accountability to it.

628
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<v Speaker 1>Right.

629
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<v Speaker 3>So to me, you're going to have emotions, boiler, You're

630
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<v Speaker 3>going to the big thing is do you take responsibility

631
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<v Speaker 3>when it happens? And do you and then you you

632
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<v Speaker 3>have a commitment to improved successful behavior going forward. Right, Right,

633
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<v Speaker 3>So everybody's always like whenever the well, they'll they'll show

634
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:39.920
<v Speaker 3>a coach meltdown on a player and they'll be like, Hey,

635
00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:43.160
<v Speaker 3>is this good coaching or is this abuse? I'm like,

636
00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:46.519
<v Speaker 3>is their trust between the two? Because if there's trust

637
00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:49.680
<v Speaker 3>between the two, now it's coaching because the player knows

638
00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:52.519
<v Speaker 3>you care about them, and that's why you're also upset

639
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:53.680
<v Speaker 3>because you care about them.

640
00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Now there's belief here. Yeah, But if.

641
00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:58.200
<v Speaker 3>They don't think you care about them, then they think

642
00:27:58.200 --> 00:27:59.240
<v Speaker 3>you're just putting on a show.

643
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:01.599
<v Speaker 1>Then they know that you're just acting out of line.

644
00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:04.680
<v Speaker 3>Now what you're doing is actually a detriment to the

645
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:05.880
<v Speaker 3>team rather than a benefit.

646
00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so there you go. No, I got you all right, Tony.

647
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:11.640
<v Speaker 2>When you last joined us, it was last Monday when

648
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:16.119
<v Speaker 2>hope was prevalent in the market. That last Monday night,

649
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:18.359
<v Speaker 2>we were all going to be gathered around our televisions

650
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:20.720
<v Speaker 2>or our radios because we had a live on ESPN

651
00:28:20.759 --> 00:28:24.240
<v Speaker 2>seven hundred to listen to Mark Tatum revealed that the

652
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Utah Jazz were going to draft number one overall, therefore

653
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:30.240
<v Speaker 2>draft Cooper Flag and therefore bring hope to a market

654
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:32.519
<v Speaker 2>in a fan base that right now, if honest does

655
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:33.599
<v Speaker 2>not have a lot of hope.

656
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:36.079
<v Speaker 1>Where were you and what was your reaction?

657
00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:38.880
<v Speaker 2>When you heard that the Utah Jazz were not drafting

658
00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:42.559
<v Speaker 2>one or two or three or four, but they had

659
00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:46.359
<v Speaker 2>I hesitate to say they had fallen to five.

660
00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Now it was their floor. They couldn't fall any further.

661
00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:52.519
<v Speaker 2>But if you look at the numbers, they were most

662
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:55.240
<v Speaker 2>likely to draft four or five. That's what the percentage

663
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:57.839
<v Speaker 2>just said. Of course, the hope was one, where were

664
00:28:57.880 --> 00:28:59.480
<v Speaker 2>you when you heard the news? And what was your reaction?

665
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:03.240
<v Speaker 3>In my wife's salon, we still have a salon in

666
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:06.000
<v Speaker 3>our place here, and I was getting a beard trim,

667
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:09.799
<v Speaker 3>and I was sitting there and my phone on.

668
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:12.039
<v Speaker 1>The yes on the ESPN seven hundred app.

669
00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:14.400
<v Speaker 3>I had it sitting there, and as I was sitting

670
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:18.759
<v Speaker 3>there watching, the TV was on, but it's on delay

671
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:20.720
<v Speaker 3>and all that stuff. Anyway, as I'm sitting there and

672
00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:24.720
<v Speaker 3>I hear on the the app the Utah Jazz, and

673
00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:27.480
<v Speaker 3>I just went WHOA. And I didn't say well, because

674
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:30.319
<v Speaker 3>I was like, it was more that I knew the

675
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.039
<v Speaker 3>reaction of the fan base knew I was coming would

676
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:36.599
<v Speaker 3>be overwhelming and local medium members. I knew it would

677
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:40.839
<v Speaker 3>be a massive blow up because the Jazz in years

678
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:44.079
<v Speaker 3>passed let's say, like the Darren Williams thing or when

679
00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:46.599
<v Speaker 3>they fell to six and then they traded. But when

680
00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:48.720
<v Speaker 3>they fell to six, they weren't trying to get the one.

681
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:50.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean they were, you know, they just weren't dealing

682
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:52.960
<v Speaker 3>with a great team. So I was like, all right,

683
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:55.200
<v Speaker 3>this is the one time, oh you fell, that's unfortunate.

684
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:57.440
<v Speaker 3>But they moved up to three, they traded whatever. In

685
00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:00.640
<v Speaker 3>this situation, they were going all out for the whole thing.

686
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:04.079
<v Speaker 3>I mean that this was the objective here. So when

687
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:06.759
<v Speaker 3>they went to fifth, I knew there would be a

688
00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:11.839
<v Speaker 3>reaction of disappointment, a reaction to people being upset. Where

689
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:13.839
<v Speaker 3>I just always shake my head and roll my eyes.

690
00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:17.279
<v Speaker 3>Is the this is rigged, this is fixed, This whole.

691
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:17.799
<v Speaker 1>Thing is this and that.

692
00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:19.519
<v Speaker 3>And I thought, man, way too many years ago, and

693
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:21.160
<v Speaker 3>by with the Knicks not being the number one pick,

694
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:24.519
<v Speaker 3>way too many things have happened where teams who have

695
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:27.039
<v Speaker 3>no benefit to the league to have the number one pick.

696
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:28.039
<v Speaker 1>I've had the number one pick.

697
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:30.559
<v Speaker 3>I can make far more of an argument that if

698
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:33.240
<v Speaker 3>the league's rigging this, they're doing a really bad job.

699
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:33.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

700
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Now that's not to say that there haven't been

701
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:40.119
<v Speaker 2>some things where you kind of go, all right, Lebron

702
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:41.599
<v Speaker 2>leaves Cleveland, they get one.

703
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:45.119
<v Speaker 1>Chris Paul leaves New Orleans, they get one.

704
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:49.440
<v Speaker 2>And honestly, look, I think it's intellectually embarrassing to discuss

705
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:53.160
<v Speaker 2>the potential of what is literally called a lottery to

706
00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:55.960
<v Speaker 2>be rigged. Like if you've ever been in any sort

707
00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:58.079
<v Speaker 2>of drawing, you know the deal, You get your a

708
00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:00.559
<v Speaker 2>little ticket, you hang out, you're like, maybe I'll win this,

709
00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:03.839
<v Speaker 2>and then the drawing takes place and your ticket number

710
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:06.519
<v Speaker 2>isn't called it's just bad luck. It doesn't mean it's fixed.

711
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:09.720
<v Speaker 2>So I have no space for any of that. I

712
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:12.720
<v Speaker 2>think the one thing that led to this outcry wasn't

713
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:16.559
<v Speaker 2>necessarily the Jazz falling to five. I think it was

714
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:19.799
<v Speaker 2>Dallas getting one after they moved on from Luca and

715
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:21.359
<v Speaker 2>so I think a lot of people were drawn the

716
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:25.039
<v Speaker 2>line like, hey, keep the Lakers relevant, trade Luke at

717
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:26.920
<v Speaker 2>LA and we'll take care of you.

718
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:29.119
<v Speaker 1>Now that's also dumb.

719
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:31.839
<v Speaker 2>But I do think one of the things that stings

720
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:34.880
<v Speaker 2>if you're a Jazz fan, it's not that you weren't

721
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.519
<v Speaker 2>able to get luck to move up and you're at five.

722
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:41.400
<v Speaker 2>I think it's your two of your Western Conference peers.

723
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:47.039
<v Speaker 2>You're already far behind Oklahoma City. You're already far behind Denver, Minnesota.

724
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I could keep going, You're already far behind so many

725
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:53.400
<v Speaker 2>teams that have good players now and mechanisms to add

726
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 2>good players later.

727
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:57.799
<v Speaker 1>That the fact that the Spurs are able.

728
00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:00.759
<v Speaker 2>To add the Dylan Harper kid, when the MAVs are

729
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:03.440
<v Speaker 2>able to add Cooper Flag. It's two more Western Conference

730
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:06.000
<v Speaker 2>teams that now you look at that and you say

731
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:08.599
<v Speaker 2>we are light years behind them as well.

732
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:10.799
<v Speaker 1>I think that that probably adds to the sting. Well,

733
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:11.839
<v Speaker 1>I think it definitely does.

734
00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Like part of this has to be that you have

735
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:15.880
<v Speaker 3>to look at yourselves and saying, you know what, whatever

736
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:18.759
<v Speaker 3>this process had been, it hasn't gone as well as

737
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:21.240
<v Speaker 3>we want. Even if you want to say, well the process,

738
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:23.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, the plan wasn't to win yet it's like

739
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:27.559
<v Speaker 3>I got it. But while this process is put together,

740
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:32.200
<v Speaker 3>what has been the most positive part of this process?

741
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:32.400
<v Speaker 1>To me?

742
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:34.440
<v Speaker 3>It's Will Hardy six year extension because I think he's

743
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:38.440
<v Speaker 3>the right guy. What what is it? There's no identity,

744
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:42.000
<v Speaker 3>there's no culture. Okay, okay, you were planning on losing out,

745
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.880
<v Speaker 3>that's fine, but you haven't. I haven't, and somebody else

746
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:47.519
<v Speaker 3>can come on and be like, I've seen this from

747
00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:50.319
<v Speaker 3>this guy and that from that guy. I still I

748
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:52.920
<v Speaker 3>haven't seen enough yet that makes me go, you know what,

749
00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:55.440
<v Speaker 3>that right there, that here is going to move them

750
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:57.799
<v Speaker 3>this direction. I remember in the Queen years, in the

751
00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:01.200
<v Speaker 3>early Queen years going, Okay, they got something. They're big here,

752
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:05.359
<v Speaker 3>and they're defensive oriented, and they've lost nine in a row,

753
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:07.640
<v Speaker 3>but they have an identity and there's something moving this

754
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:11.759
<v Speaker 3>direction now, okay, And in this current situation.

755
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:13.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm not just trying to be critical.

756
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.920
<v Speaker 3>I know they're doing it differently than Dennis and Quinn

757
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:17.880
<v Speaker 3>and Kevin O'Connor back in the day.

758
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:19.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying do it the way they did it.

759
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:20.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying.

760
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:23.839
<v Speaker 3>Throughout all of this, hey, you've garnered a lot of assets.

761
00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:26.599
<v Speaker 3>I'll give you that, and you I think have the

762
00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:30.279
<v Speaker 3>right coach right mind. But now it's making everything else

763
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:32.799
<v Speaker 3>come together. So when you did this to bet on

764
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:35.480
<v Speaker 3>yourself that you were going to get it right now,

765
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:37.680
<v Speaker 3>you got to put it to work, and that might

766
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.559
<v Speaker 3>mean moving up, and that might mean spending more than

767
00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:42.759
<v Speaker 3>you probably wanted to if it's the guy that you

768
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:44.079
<v Speaker 3>believe is going to turn this around.

769
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:46.279
<v Speaker 1>But you miss on this pick.

770
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:49.200
<v Speaker 3>And you I mean, if you do, if you Dante

771
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:51.519
<v Speaker 3>ExHAM this thing, and I'm not saying they will, but

772
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:55.799
<v Speaker 3>if you Dante ExHAM this thing, you prolong this process.

773
00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the number one thing you have to do is draft.

774
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:02.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, Bobby march On earlier and he outlined it perfectly,

775
00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:06.440
<v Speaker 2>And here's the deal. And I hate to use this

776
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:09.239
<v Speaker 2>team as an example because right now they are the

777
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:13.719
<v Speaker 2>best example of roster construction under the new CBA, which

778
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:16.880
<v Speaker 2>has allowed teams that play in cities pretty similar to

779
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:19.000
<v Speaker 2>ours build up. Some really good teams are going to

780
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:21.559
<v Speaker 2>be good now and be good for a long time. Now,

781
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:24.679
<v Speaker 2>the one outlier can And this is why this exercise

782
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:27.800
<v Speaker 2>is a little bit difficult, because you could look at Detroit,

783
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:30.880
<v Speaker 2>you can look at Orlando, you can look at Oklahoma City,

784
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:33.639
<v Speaker 2>you can look at some of the teams that are

785
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:37.000
<v Speaker 2>in cities like ours and we're in places like this

786
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:40.320
<v Speaker 2>not too long ago, and try to draw parallels. But

787
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:45.800
<v Speaker 2>the one failure with this exercise is Okacshay. Detroit has

788
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:50.079
<v Speaker 2>Kaid and Orlando as Apollo, and the Jazz don't have

789
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:50.559
<v Speaker 2>that guy.

790
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I like Lowry, I like Lowry a lot. He's not

791
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:53.719
<v Speaker 1>one of those guys.

792
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:59.079
<v Speaker 2>He is not a franchise you know, He's not a

793
00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:00.440
<v Speaker 2>franchise building block.

794
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:02.960
<v Speaker 1>He can play really well for a really.

795
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Good team, and the Jazz could trade him and he

796
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:08.239
<v Speaker 2>would start for probably any team in the league. Maybe

797
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:10.239
<v Speaker 2>not a fully healthy Boston Celtic team. But you get

798
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:14.119
<v Speaker 2>my drift. So where the Jazz have failed so far

799
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:18.599
<v Speaker 2>and where these other teams have succeeded. Like Sam Presty

800
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:22.840
<v Speaker 2>turned Paul George into Shae and other pieces and a

801
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:26.320
<v Speaker 2>bunch of draft capital, the Jazz so far have not

802
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:31.280
<v Speaker 2>turned Donovan or Rudy into a cornerstone. They turned Donovan

803
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:34.039
<v Speaker 2>into Lowry and some other pieces and some draft picks.

804
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:36.719
<v Speaker 2>Of course, they got Walker and the Rudy deal, which

805
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:39.400
<v Speaker 2>is a nice piece. But if you're going to move

806
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:42.400
<v Speaker 2>off of Donovan Mitchell at twenty five, who's probably about

807
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:44.840
<v Speaker 2>to be named first team All NBA, or Go Bar

808
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:46.880
<v Speaker 2>at twenty eight, who loves Salt Lake and didn't want

809
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:48.599
<v Speaker 2>to leave. If you're going to move off those franchise

810
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:53.559
<v Speaker 2>changing pieces, among the things you receive in return, whether

811
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:56.960
<v Speaker 2>it's a tangible piece like Shay right away or a

812
00:35:57.039 --> 00:35:59.199
<v Speaker 2>draft pick later on, you have to find the guy

813
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:00.920
<v Speaker 2>that you can build around, and they have not found

814
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:04.280
<v Speaker 2>that yet. So if you can turn Paul George into

815
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Shea and then you have some lean years with him

816
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.119
<v Speaker 2>as the cornerstone and you can see that he is

817
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:11.679
<v Speaker 2>one of those dudes, then all you have to do

818
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:13.840
<v Speaker 2>is draft right around him, and then it gives you

819
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:17.280
<v Speaker 2>the ability, with some deals you know, to be able

820
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:20.239
<v Speaker 2>to bring in and as Isaiah Hartenstein or an Alex

821
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:24.159
<v Speaker 2>Caruso who guarded Yokichen Game seven. But they draft Chet,

822
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:27.679
<v Speaker 2>they draft Isaiah Joe, you know, they bring in Casin Wallace,

823
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Wiggins, Jalen Williams. They knocked that one out of

824
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.320
<v Speaker 2>the park. So yes, Sam Presty turned Paul George into shea.

825
00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:37.280
<v Speaker 2>But he also has this crazy hit rate on his

826
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:41.199
<v Speaker 2>draft picks. So the problem with the Jazz isn't only

827
00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:45.199
<v Speaker 2>that they haven't turned Donovan Rudy into a star. It's

828
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:49.159
<v Speaker 2>there are legitimate questions about Isaiah Collier and Keyante George

829
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:52.000
<v Speaker 2>and we need to see Taylor Hendrick Selti and Cody

830
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:55.639
<v Speaker 2>Williams by all the analytics just had a historically bad

831
00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:59.000
<v Speaker 2>rookie year. So it's twofold, okay. So if we look

832
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:01.199
<v Speaker 2>at all the teams that have built, and now we're

833
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:04.599
<v Speaker 2>in a position where they're playing high level basketball in

834
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:08.400
<v Speaker 2>cities like ours. You've got to start with ants. You

835
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:10.760
<v Speaker 2>have to start with Shay, you have to start with kid,

836
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:12.639
<v Speaker 2>you have to start with Polo and then build from

837
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:15.320
<v Speaker 2>the ground up. The Jazz haven't been able to do that.

838
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:18.559
<v Speaker 2>Attendant to it, if we're honest, they have not hit

839
00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:21.199
<v Speaker 2>on their picks, Tony, No, since Danny, you know, Danny

840
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:22.199
<v Speaker 2>kind of took over the reins.

841
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:22.760
<v Speaker 1>They just haven't.

842
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:25.400
<v Speaker 3>I had a Jazz fan asked me how is it

843
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:30.199
<v Speaker 3>the Sacramento Airport yesterday and ran into a couple different

844
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:32.920
<v Speaker 3>the Salt Lake residents, but one of them was a

845
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:34.760
<v Speaker 3>Jazz fan as well and was talking about the five

846
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:35.519
<v Speaker 3>pick and this and that.

847
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:36.079
<v Speaker 1>What do you think?

848
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:40.559
<v Speaker 3>And I just said, well, they can catch up in

849
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:43.760
<v Speaker 3>terms of gaining ground from where they have been up

850
00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:48.320
<v Speaker 3>to this point. But when they made the wholesale change

851
00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:51.960
<v Speaker 3>three years ago, I thought, Okay, no, you're turning the page,

852
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.440
<v Speaker 3>and I'm totally fine with that. I would not have

853
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:59.199
<v Speaker 3>predicted that they've made what I would consider very little

854
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:02.239
<v Speaker 3>to know for progress. So so for you to lose

855
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:04.599
<v Speaker 3>that's one thing but I do not see a ton

856
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:09.239
<v Speaker 3>of forward progress. And I know that we're supposed to

857
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:11.679
<v Speaker 3>be positive about the Jazz and there are NBA team

858
00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:14.239
<v Speaker 3>and no, I'm just I'm going to be very honest.

859
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at it going.

860
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:18.000
<v Speaker 3>I get that the plan wasn't to win, but I

861
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:20.159
<v Speaker 3>don't see other things that tell me this is a

862
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:26.039
<v Speaker 3>surging direction forward here, here and here. And when I

863
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:28.159
<v Speaker 3>when I see that, I say, Okay, you can gain

864
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:31.480
<v Speaker 3>ground on that with hitting draft picks and all of

865
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:34.039
<v Speaker 3>that and catch up from the distance that I thought

866
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:36.880
<v Speaker 3>you would be at. But I am curious as to why.

867
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:39.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm curious as to why three years. I mean, there's

868
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:43.000
<v Speaker 3>there's really nothing to show for this. We've got a

869
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:44.480
<v Speaker 3>ton of assets. Yeah, I know you've had them for

870
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:46.920
<v Speaker 3>a while. You know, we've got great draft picks. Yeah,

871
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:48.840
<v Speaker 3>I know this isn't your you know, I know this

872
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:49.440
<v Speaker 3>is a.

873
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:50.159
<v Speaker 1>Really good one.

874
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:54.360
<v Speaker 3>But you've had some nice picks here and some selections

875
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:57.280
<v Speaker 3>to make up to that point. So you have room,

876
00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:02.320
<v Speaker 3>you have weapons, you have opportunity. And I still think,

877
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:04.559
<v Speaker 3>and some people disagree with me on the Will Hardy thing,

878
00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:06.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, no, I think this guy's magnificent.

879
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I do. I think all of his principles.

880
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:12.280
<v Speaker 3>I think the fact that he wildly overperformed with that

881
00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:14.000
<v Speaker 3>that team he had what three years ago and then

882
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:16.559
<v Speaker 3>two years ago, I mean, that was amazing Spence. And

883
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:19.039
<v Speaker 3>then they flushed out and said, Okay, we're gonna bottom out,

884
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:21.679
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna do it this way. Okay, But now I

885
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:24.039
<v Speaker 3>got to see something in that process that tells me,

886
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:27.960
<v Speaker 3>here is the light, Here is the direction.

887
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:29.599
<v Speaker 1>Here is the momentum.

888
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:32.320
<v Speaker 3>You know, It's like anybody who's gonna go to the

889
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:35.400
<v Speaker 3>gym or make a whole major change in their life.

890
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:37.960
<v Speaker 3>People may not see it right away, but you can

891
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:40.920
<v Speaker 3>feel and see the momentum that's around you based on

892
00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:47.159
<v Speaker 3>different decisions, you know, different opportunities, different habits. They may

893
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:49.280
<v Speaker 3>see them under the surface. I'm just telling them I

894
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:51.360
<v Speaker 3>don't see them. And I've watched as much as I

895
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.920
<v Speaker 3>can and I don't see it. So I'm hoping for

896
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:57.719
<v Speaker 3>them that in the near future this can be turned around.

897
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:00.159
<v Speaker 3>You nail the five pick, or you move up and

898
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:02.719
<v Speaker 3>you nail the pick and then you start really seeing

899
00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:04.519
<v Speaker 3>some surge go in the right direction.

900
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:07.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And as far as just simply being positive and

901
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.320
<v Speaker 2>believing the messages that are probably you know, it's just

902
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:14.119
<v Speaker 2>propaganda coming out of the organization, and you know, like

903
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:18.679
<v Speaker 2>I can't roll that way. I can't just call something

904
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:22.760
<v Speaker 2>other than what I see. And yes, the organization wants

905
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:25.320
<v Speaker 2>you to believe that the rebuild is on track, and yes,

906
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:27.599
<v Speaker 2>at times they plan a story where it's like, oh, hey,

907
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:30.519
<v Speaker 2>just so you know, we haven't been rebuilding. We've been

908
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:33.960
<v Speaker 2>tearing down for three years and now we're rebuilding. That's

909
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:36.320
<v Speaker 2>so insulting, Like, no, you started the rebuild when you

910
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.880
<v Speaker 2>traded away two stars in their prime and a really

911
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:42.559
<v Speaker 2>good coach left and a really good roster constructor left.

912
00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:45.960
<v Speaker 2>That's when the rebuild started. The clock started three years ago,

913
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:50.599
<v Speaker 2>not now. Okay, So you can't just propagate messaging through

914
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:53.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, team owned media or try to plan a

915
00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:55.920
<v Speaker 2>story in the d news of the trib and then

916
00:40:56.000 --> 00:41:00.880
<v Speaker 2>expect me to not see what I'm seeing. And look, nobody,

917
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:03.400
<v Speaker 2>I want the Jazz to win as bad as anybody.

918
00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:06.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, I have a dashboard. I keep track

919
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:08.320
<v Speaker 2>of how many people listening to which segments and how

920
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:11.239
<v Speaker 2>many people listen to which interviews, and when Donovan and

921
00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:14.679
<v Speaker 2>Rudy and that team was kind of making their way

922
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:17.480
<v Speaker 2>through and having a little bit of playoff success early on,

923
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:20.480
<v Speaker 2>and then you know, the interest in the Jazz was

924
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:23.119
<v Speaker 2>through the roof. A lot of people were listening to

925
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:25.280
<v Speaker 2>the NBA segments in a way that they just aren't

926
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:28.639
<v Speaker 2>right now. It's better for my business if the Jazz win.

927
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:31.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm as frustrated as anybody for everybody, and I can't

928
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:33.880
<v Speaker 2>just be positive about something that I'm looking at right

929
00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:36.519
<v Speaker 2>now without a lot of hope. Because when you look

930
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:40.920
<v Speaker 2>at teams with draft capital future ability to add pieces

931
00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:45.480
<v Speaker 2>via the draft, Oklahoma City's at the top, and Oklahoma

932
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:48.840
<v Speaker 2>City isn't just in a position where they're going to

933
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:51.199
<v Speaker 2>be able to add pieces in the future. They're awesome

934
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:54.599
<v Speaker 2>right now. They should win the championship. Then you have

935
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:57.360
<v Speaker 2>teams like Brooklyn. They're in the same spot as the Jazz.

936
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:01.679
<v Speaker 2>The Houston Rockets have ten draft picks coming their way.

937
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:05.360
<v Speaker 2>They just made the playoffs with a really, really good team.

938
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:09.400
<v Speaker 2>The San Antonio Spurs have nine future picks at their disposal.

939
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:12.400
<v Speaker 2>The Detroit Pistons are on this list, the Sacramento Kings,

940
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:18.280
<v Speaker 2>the Orlando Magic. So teams that are already good are

941
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:21.639
<v Speaker 2>in the same area the Jazz are with draft assets.

942
00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:24.840
<v Speaker 2>So it's one thing to say we have draft assets. Okay,

943
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:29.639
<v Speaker 2>that's great. There's a tremendous amount of pressure on them

944
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:31.679
<v Speaker 2>to get this thing right this offseason.

945
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

946
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Now next year is going to look the same as

947
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:36.920
<v Speaker 2>this year. There's no scenario. I mean, there are rumors

948
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:40.960
<v Speaker 2>about San Antonio two or Affiliate three. Maybe they can

949
00:42:41.199 --> 00:42:44.400
<v Speaker 2>move up, maybe they can grab another lottery pick. But

950
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:48.599
<v Speaker 2>we need to see Taylor healthier. For fair Cody, I mean,

951
00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:52.079
<v Speaker 2>he's got years to go. Based off what we saw

952
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:55.239
<v Speaker 2>last year, I don't know if Keantae George is a

953
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:58.800
<v Speaker 2>rotational piece for a good team. Isaiah Callier, you can't

954
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:02.159
<v Speaker 2>have your lead guard shooting twenty six from three. I

955
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:05.559
<v Speaker 2>like Lowry, I like Walker, and that might be it.

956
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:07.800
<v Speaker 2>I think Philipowski showed some things down the stretch.

957
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:09.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But if.

958
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:11.480
<v Speaker 2>The best pick you've made is the one you've grabbed

959
00:43:11.519 --> 00:43:13.679
<v Speaker 2>thirty two and the chances that you had in the

960
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:15.800
<v Speaker 2>lottery in the mid first round you've struck out on,

961
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:19.079
<v Speaker 2>it indicates they're still miles and miles to go.

962
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:21.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And the comparisons you make to the other teams,

963
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:24.119
<v Speaker 3>I think it jumps out because the first thing I

964
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:27.079
<v Speaker 3>saw with The reaction was, they will never help us

965
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:30.280
<v Speaker 3>small market tape. Well, I tell you, the Temper Nuggets

966
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:32.559
<v Speaker 3>are recent champions, right, and I know they're not like

967
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:36.519
<v Speaker 3>small smallmerker right. But the Milwaukee Bucks are resa champions.

968
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:39.280
<v Speaker 3>The Spurs won five of them. They put together a

969
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:42.800
<v Speaker 3>good run of winning, consistently winning the Jazz by the way,

970
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:46.480
<v Speaker 3>in the nineties one it's on more teams. Jordan beating

971
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:48.880
<v Speaker 3>the finals came from small markets than big markets. I

972
00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:51.079
<v Speaker 3>still don't call Phoenix a small market, but I know

973
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:53.960
<v Speaker 3>that it's not considerate that in the NBA landscape is

974
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:57.360
<v Speaker 3>not but anyway not the point. It wasn't a major

975
00:43:57.440 --> 00:44:00.360
<v Speaker 3>destination if you will, for NBA free agent and all

976
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:03.119
<v Speaker 3>that at the time. So when I look at it,

977
00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:05.719
<v Speaker 3>I say, no, I think all across the board.

978
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:08.559
<v Speaker 1>If you want to say it's all even, it's not, okay.

979
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:09.079
<v Speaker 1>I get it.

980
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:14.920
<v Speaker 3>Some places are probably more wished upon by a free

981
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:17.079
<v Speaker 3>agent than say, Salt Lake. But when I look at

982
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:19.800
<v Speaker 3>the way teams have been able to build championships, build

983
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:21.519
<v Speaker 3>championship teams, I look at the way that they were

984
00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:23.000
<v Speaker 3>able to do it with culture. I look at the

985
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:25.360
<v Speaker 3>way Mike Malone was able to do and I know

986
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:27.679
<v Speaker 3>it just got let oh, which is stunning, by the way,

987
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:29.760
<v Speaker 3>but how he did it with Denver and I watched

988
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:32.599
<v Speaker 3>him in the years where they refused to be consistent

989
00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:35.679
<v Speaker 3>with defensive habits, then at least weren't terrible in that area.

990
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Boom put a ring on their finger, Like I watched

991
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:42.519
<v Speaker 3>it all come together for others. And there's no reason

992
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:45.280
<v Speaker 3>this place couldn't fan support everything you could want in

993
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:45.639
<v Speaker 3>that way.

994
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>And it's a competitive league. I got that, and I'm not.

995
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:50.880
<v Speaker 3>Saying this team should be in that position now, but

996
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:55.000
<v Speaker 3>I did think they would be more along than they

997
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:57.920
<v Speaker 3>have been. I did think that they would be at

998
00:44:58.159 --> 00:44:59.679
<v Speaker 3>a bigger step in this process.

999
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:01.079
<v Speaker 1>It has surprised me.

1000
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:05.440
<v Speaker 2>If san Antonio is willing to move too, or Philly

1001
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:07.760
<v Speaker 2>is moving to move is willing to move. Three do

1002
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:09.800
<v Speaker 2>you put marketing on the table? You put Lowry on

1003
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:10.119
<v Speaker 2>the table?

1004
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, if you're gonna bet on that being

1005
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.039
<v Speaker 3>this cornerstone piece to the ultimate future, then yes, yes

1006
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:18.280
<v Speaker 3>I do. But but with that said, you better be

1007
00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:21.639
<v Speaker 3>ready because if I'm them, I want Lowry, I want

1008
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:24.440
<v Speaker 3>to swap and I want a future at basement.

1009
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:27.239
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