WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:30.079 Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, September ninth, twenty twenty five. Welcome 2 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:34.039 to the Giant BombCast, presented by MBSI and I am 3 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:37.039 your host jan pad Show. Well, welcome to the Giant BombCast, 4 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:41.359 Episode nine hundred and seven. We've got so many people 5 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:43.560 on this podcast today, it's like we're a K pop 6 00:00:43.679 --> 00:00:45.880 girl group with how many people are on today. We've 7 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:48.560 got the vocals of the group, Jeff Grubb. 8 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:52.200 Hey, everybody, Yeah, my kids are getting into BTS because 9 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:56.600 they're coming. The boys from BTS are inside McDonald's Happy. 10 00:00:56.359 --> 00:01:00.200 Meals, speaking about being inside happy meals. He's inside all 11 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:03.920 the meals and he can't contain his excitement over them 12 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:05.959 because he's the playful one of the group. 13 00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:10.359 Dan Record, No, the McDonald's happy meals are inside of me. Uh, 14 00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:13.280 but they didn't the adult happy meal thing right recently. 15 00:01:13.719 --> 00:01:15.480 I thought about doing that. It's just kind of fucked 16 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:18.079 up looking shake. I don't want to shake with every meal, 17 00:01:18.200 --> 00:01:18.560 you know. 18 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:19.040 I don't think. 19 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:20.280 I don't know if you had to get the shake 20 00:01:20.319 --> 00:01:21.959 and we did, we did it. Maybe we did get 21 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:23.000 the shake, Dan, I got it once. 22 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:23.319 I don't know. 23 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:24.400 You don't have to get it every time. 24 00:01:24.680 --> 00:01:26.640 Okay, okay. I like the idea of getting back into 25 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:28.439 happy meals, but they need to make it for cool 26 00:01:28.480 --> 00:01:29.159 adults like me. 27 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:29.879 Exactly. 28 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:32.000 He's the moody one of the group. You can find 29 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:34.439 him sitting in the back of the class, scrawling his 30 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:37.519 name into desks. You can't borrow a pencil from him 31 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:40.719 because he's dressed in all black, the scary spice equivalent 32 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:45.040 of our group. Back, Hey, what's up? How's it going? Jam? 33 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:45.680 You like that one? 34 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:49.159 Did you get the birthday card I sent you? 35 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:50.159 You're a month early? 36 00:01:50.799 --> 00:01:57.000 But artistic abilities though, back drawing, borrow that drawing later. 37 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:00.680 Fantastic And he's the archetype that hells in our group. 38 00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:02.840 Not only is he the smart one, but he's also 39 00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:05.879 the young one. Turbo Shawn Sean McDowell. 40 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:09.080 Happy birthday to the thing that all young people love, 41 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:10.520 the Sega Dreamcast. 42 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:14.120 Yeah, that's right, and this only PlayStation and PlayStation in 43 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:14.719 the United States. 44 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:15.960 PlayStation can go. Hell. 45 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:20.039 Oh, they're both great. I love both my kids. 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Apparently 92 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:50.279 I'm very bad at spelling, but I haven't bothered to 93 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:52.399 edit the ad. But it's fine. You get it. We 94 00:04:52.439 --> 00:04:55.279 get it, vallid until October fifteenth, Gang, what's going on? 95 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:59.120 How's the HAPs It's happening? Baby? 96 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:01.040 Me and Mike both cried on Friday. 97 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:05.879 Yeah, oh we cried together. I did cry. Those ticking 98 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:08.079 drinks were so good. I cried, for sure, you cried. 99 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:10.040 We went to go see Joe. 100 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:12.120 He said, you see the composer for Studio Ghibli And 101 00:05:12.199 --> 00:05:13.480 it was like his whole things, like, I'm going to 102 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:16.279 play some of my original compositions. That's all that was promised. 103 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:19.160 And they were beautiful. It was really nice moving. It 104 00:05:19.240 --> 00:05:21.279 was moving, yes, but you know, he kind of gets 105 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:24.199 h halfway through. We take a little break, we come back. 106 00:05:24.439 --> 00:05:26.720 He starts playing some more familiar stuff, but he did 107 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:29.040 not the wind rises, but he does as a boy 108 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:30.759 in the Hair. 109 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:32.240 And latest Ghibbli movie, he composed, Oh. 110 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:33.040 I get that. 111 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:36.720 I mean, look, emotional events happened. I I get it. 112 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:39.360 That's and that's and then it was over. But it 113 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:42.319 wasn't over. You guys ever see this. I was like, hey, 114 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:45.040 I'm not done yet. I'm gonnams. 115 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.600 I didn't think it was going to be an encore situation. 116 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:50.160 It was like a fancy you know, orchestra. 117 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:52.759 Thing, right, I do wonder like what the etiquette is 118 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:55.360 like for that for like orchestras, Like how many encores 119 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:57.720 is like okay if you're a guest conductor, but whatever. 120 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:02.079 He came back and he played Carousel from was that 121 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:05.079 House Moving Castle and the Yeah, and then he played 122 00:06:05.319 --> 00:06:09.439 like the piano suite from Spirited Away one are just 123 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:12.040 absolutely was like amazing, Like we're like, you know, oh yeah, 124 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:14.120 less than fifty feet away from the guy and he's 125 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:16.319 just up there playing the piano himself on a big, little, 126 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:18.319 big old steinway. It was really amazing. 127 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:20.120 It was cool, and that was the moment. 128 00:06:20.399 --> 00:06:22.199 Oh yeah, both those songs really got me. 129 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:23.920 Yeah, because like I really was like, yeah, it's great, 130 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:25.199 and I'm going to see him, you know what. I've 131 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:27.800 liked it if he did houses being Castle, spirit Away, sure. 132 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:28.000 But he's not. 133 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:29.959 And I'm a big boy and that's okay. Then as 134 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:32.120 soon as he started doing those songs, yeah, I lost it. 135 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:34.879 So did you guys? I'm assuming you sat next to 136 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:35.279 each other. 137 00:06:35.720 --> 00:06:38.360 Yes, well, we put a dude bro space between us 138 00:06:39.079 --> 00:06:40.480 right when. 139 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:43.240 You what was the point where you both realized you 140 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:45.759 were crying? And did you like right away and did 141 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:47.959 you make eye contact. You were sort of like, I'm 142 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:48.560 glad you're here. 143 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:48.800 Man. 144 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:52.040 I definitely gasped a little like, oh god, I. 145 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:54.519 Think I do the whole glasses off the you know, 146 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:57.399 I'm relatively animated, believe it or not. 147 00:06:57.600 --> 00:07:00.560 So it was a good though. It was. 148 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:01.360 It was a lot of fun. 149 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:03.600 Drunk is that? What do you think you cried a 150 00:07:03.639 --> 00:07:06.360 little bit drunk? Yeah? 151 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:08.480 Well, I know, I feel like I know you were drunks, 152 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:11.720 But I'm also asking do you think you know alcohol 153 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:16.040 increased your uh uh, you know, sort of like crying ability. 154 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:19.279 Does it do that? Yeah, it's a depression a little bit, 155 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:22.040 a little bit. We we live in an interesting space, 156 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:25.800 specifically the six of us uh and our extended family 157 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:30.639 because instead of drunk texting or drunk calling someone, Jeff 158 00:07:30.680 --> 00:07:32.560 Crub decided to just drunk chat. 159 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:35.000 I did not realize how lid I was until I 160 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:37.480 tried to write that sentence in chat and it wasn't working. 161 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:42.240 So we're going fish and chips? Where are you guys? 162 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:47.040 The fish and chips were so good? Yeah, shot Ufs a. 163 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:50.319 Great lakes through company. 164 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:49.519 Right. 165 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:52.959 I took Jeff Grub to the West Side market of Cleveland, 166 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:56.160 stable for the first time. Just this indoor market thing 167 00:07:56.199 --> 00:08:01.079 where everybody has their own boothe and they're selling meat, jerky, 168 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:03.279 sweets or bread. It's just you know, a bunch of 169 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:05.319 little stations in there. It's so fun. 170 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:07.480 Yeah. I was like, still went over immediately, took the 171 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:09.800 family back there on Sunday, uh, and to my mother 172 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:11.519 in law as well. It was great. It's good times. 173 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:12.600 Hell yeah. 174 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:16.079 Sometimes it's I don't know, I cry at concerts a 175 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:23.000 lot too, Yeah, just because no, no, I don't know why, 176 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:27.120 Like I get like overcome with emotion sometimes. 177 00:08:27.720 --> 00:08:30.839 Yeah, yeah, it's fun. 178 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:33.919 I'm like of two minds. I'm like, one of me 179 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:35.799 is like this is so emotional, and the other ones. 180 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:38.039 You know that Jerry Seinfeld line, I don't want to 181 00:08:38.039 --> 00:08:42.879 go watch a man sing a song. I'm like the 182 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:46.399 same time. Definitely, It's like I just listen to at home, 183 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:48.200 but then I get there and it's very moving. 184 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:51.679 Seeing it live is something special. It's funny, like Encore 185 00:08:51.799 --> 00:08:54.519 is now. I feel like there's certain bands who like 186 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:57.320 really milk the Encore thing, and then there's certain bands 187 00:08:57.360 --> 00:08:59.960 who were just like, we're all adults here, We're just 188 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:03.159 gonna play more songs and not leave and come back, 189 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:03.600 you know. 190 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:05.679 Like that because or the ones that's been like listen, 191 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:07.799 there's not gonna be a OnCore. This is our last song, 192 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:09.360 Like I like just doing that, so you don't do 193 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:11.679 the thing we're gonna wait, are we're gonna go appreciate? 194 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:14.240 Yeah, but I get the like people it's the one 195 00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:16.639 last thing, right, people are really attached to that ship. 196 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:19.320 I'm so you say, like this is the one last thing. 197 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:20.679 Well way this hit you know. 198 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:22.759 Yeah, people probably well so say they hear that, They're 199 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:23.679 probably like this is fine. 200 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:24.039 Of course. 201 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:26.080 Yeah, we're still getting probably the same amount of music. 202 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:28.080 I can be honest, there's no way I could resist 203 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:30.000 being like an encore asshole. 204 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:36.919 I guess, Oh, are you cheering more for me? Yeah? 205 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:39.679 I know, one more song. I think you get sick 206 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:40.399 of it eventually. 207 00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:42.080 I think that's where a lot of bands either a 208 00:09:42.159 --> 00:09:44.879 band can't like get creative with it anymore and they're just. 209 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:47.799 Like, we don't need to do this or if. 210 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:51.240 But I've seen bands do it really creatively, Like there's 211 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:52.960 not a lot of space to move there. 212 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:55.919 So for premium folks out there, we're actually starting to 213 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:59.600 do our own encore on the dump truck, you know, like, 214 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:01.799 oh no, we're back, we got a breboard up, let's go. 215 00:10:02.399 --> 00:10:03.879 It only happens if you cheer at the end of 216 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:06.840 the podcast, though, stand up in the chat. Yeah, it's 217 00:10:06.840 --> 00:10:08.519 like tinker more dumb. 218 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:15.519 Everyone else have a rousing weekend filled with It's okay 219 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:18.279 if everyone else cried, I think I might have cried also. 220 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:22.159 So it's fine from a concert, but of course, yeah, yeah. 221 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:22.360 Of course. 222 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:25.600 I mean I saw wrestling at the Mall of America 223 00:10:25.720 --> 00:10:28.639 and Hornswoggle was there and he went around and uh, 224 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:31.480 I'm friends with the refs there, shout out to referee 225 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:34.360 clerk and talked to him afterwards, and definitely wasn't giving 226 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:36.120 the heads up that Hornswoggle was just gonna run around 227 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:39.320 hitting all the referees in the nuts. So that was funny. 228 00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:46.759 Wow, what what a follow up to the last subject. 229 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:49.200 I'm watching? 230 00:10:51.080 --> 00:10:52.840 You still saw a man cry this weekend? 231 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:57.639 Dad cried, This is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. 232 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:02.879 He's a poet. I went to a Korean barbecue joint 233 00:11:02.919 --> 00:11:06.679 with some homies over the weekend. Cried there. No, no, no, 234 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:10.480 I didn't cry there, cried afterwards, And it wasn't one 235 00:11:10.519 --> 00:11:12.559 of those gas joints. It was like a charcoal joint. 236 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:15.240 So they had charcoal in front of in the middle 237 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:18.559 of the table, which if people are kind of getting 238 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:21.320 a little schwasty at Korean barbecue, that feels like a 239 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:25.480 gigantic health hazard for someone just fucking falling into charcoal 240 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:32.080 to go. I think, right, how do they mitigate the smoke? Well, 241 00:11:32.080 --> 00:11:35.639 that's the next part of my story, Jeff Beckler. There 242 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:38.720 are these giant vents on top, which I assumed was 243 00:11:38.720 --> 00:11:42.080 supposed to act like a like a ventilation or chimney 244 00:11:42.159 --> 00:11:47.559 or whatever. It's okay, And the Korean barbecue place had 245 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:50.480 to open a door or because the in a window 246 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:52.919 because it was getting a little too smokey in there. 247 00:11:53.000 --> 00:11:56.919 Ventilation wasn't too great. I was sitting in front of 248 00:11:56.960 --> 00:12:00.159 the window and the door area, so all of the 249 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:05.039 smoke from my group's Korean barbecue was just all over me, 250 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:09.159 and so was the two other tables near us, So 251 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:11.480 all their smoke was headed towards me and in one 252 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:13.799 general area. So I felt like I was a Mortal 253 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:17.960 Kombat character. I went to a dispensary afterwards, and then 254 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:21.039 like the lady that checked me out was freaking out like, 255 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:23.159 oh my, God is through a fire and here like 256 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:26.919 it smells like smoke. Oh my smell like And then 257 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:28.919 I looked at her was like, hey, sorry, I did 258 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:31.840 this backwards. Normally you get the weed first and then 259 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:36.720 Korean barbecue, but I'm doing it differently today. And then 260 00:12:36.759 --> 00:12:39.840 I had an existential crisis during karaoke. But that's besides 261 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:40.120 the point. 262 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:41.799 I mean, it is the best thing. We did have 263 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:42.240 one of those. 264 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:43.519 Yeah, yeah, for sure. 265 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:50.440 I also watched Naked Gun. That movie movie is pretty good. Boy, 266 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:51.399 that's a funny movie. 267 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:52.759 It's extremely funny. 268 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:54.960 Yeah, just really got me the entire time. 269 00:12:55.039 --> 00:12:56.240 It was one of those ones. I'm like, I'm gonna 270 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:58.759 put this on. And then Steph kind of sexting, she said, oh, 271 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:00.480 I want to watch this too, and mother in law 272 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:01.840 was here and we all kind of watched. 273 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:03.000 It and everyone really loved it. 274 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:04.840 Even the kids kind of picked in sometimes that were 275 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:06.960 picking up on some of the jokes, which I remember 276 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:08.919 doing with the original Naked Gun movies. 277 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:10.519 And I was like pretty much a kid when those were. 278 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:13.320 Coming out, and uh, you know, that was the nineties, 279 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:15.440 so I think those were mostly like rated R in 280 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:17.519 a lot of cases, they did this f G thirteen 281 00:13:17.559 --> 00:13:20.399 and I kind of like appreciated that and was impressed 282 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:22.320 they were able to pull off so many of the jokes. 283 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:27.480 It's thirteen back in the day they were I think, 284 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:30.720 so I just for for some reason, I remember nudity, 285 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:31.639 but maybe that's. 286 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:36.120 He was like, yes, that's a good joke. 287 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:38.919 There's not a ton of sex stuff. Well, well the 288 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:39.879 snowman scene, but. 289 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:42.799 Well the snowman scene that like as soon as that started, 290 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:44.440 as soon as I saw the snowman's head, I'm like, 291 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:46.919 I hope they And then the next thing was I 292 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:48.759 can't believe they're doing this, but it was like exactly, 293 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:50.679 like that would be the funniest thing if they did this, 294 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:52.600 and it like just hit so hard that. 295 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:55.279 That was the analog to the mcgroover sex scene for me, 296 00:13:55.360 --> 00:13:57.440 where it's like I'm loving this entire movie and this 297 00:13:57.480 --> 00:13:59.559 is the part where I am crying. So maybe that 298 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:00.519 movie didn't make me cry. 299 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:03.600 Yeah, they were. They were PG thirteen. 300 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:06.440 Man, Yeah that's a kid. It was just like this 301 00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:07.600 is this seems pretty you know. 302 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:10.440 Yeah, well they came out when we were like, I 303 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:14.000 guess it's interesting. Yeah, they're like nine to ten, so 304 00:14:14.039 --> 00:14:15.759 you're sort of like at that age, you're sort of 305 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:18.159 like anything slightly off color is like. 306 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:22.200 The for adults, Like I could just I knew that, 307 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:24.720 and a lot of them definitely were sex hinge, but 308 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:26.440 I guess they just weren't explicit. 309 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:29.039 There is more like kind of pants shipping type stuff 310 00:14:29.080 --> 00:14:30.799 going in that movie than sex stuff. 311 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:31.320 Huh. 312 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:34.080 Yeah, I could see a kid like me at ten, 313 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:37.799 I probably would have made it my entire personality. 314 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:42.120 Now you would have really respected cops a lot. 315 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:44.320 Yeah, it's fantastic. I'm glad you saw it. 316 00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:46.720 The windshield joke to Jesus Christ. 317 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:49.039 So good. 318 00:14:49.639 --> 00:14:54.639 It's so fucking stupid, just like, oh, they're gonna do this. 319 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:55.240 Yep they did. 320 00:14:57.519 --> 00:15:01.559 Wasn't it directed by one of the Lonely is the 321 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:04.360 one that broke his hip from falling from a ladder recently? 322 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:05.840 Why don't know? 323 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:08.360 That might have been Jorma. Oh I think that was Dorama. 324 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:09.759 Yeah. 325 00:15:10.039 --> 00:15:10.480 I love that. 326 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:13.399 His previous film was Chippendale Rescue Rangers. 327 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:18.039 A group dom Jorma did Jorma Okay? Yeah? 328 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:22.000 Yeah, so the Lonely Island legacy and recent count recent 329 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:22.759 he would have. 330 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:24.559 Been involved with that, like as a producer probably then. 331 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:26.960 Right, I'm sure. Yeah, yeah. I think I think maybe 332 00:15:27.039 --> 00:15:28.840 Samberg was the only one that wasn't involved with mcgroover. 333 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:32.759 Seth Myers was Okay, God the Lonely Island crew, I 334 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:36.240 just give them any movie really, like, yeah, can you 335 00:15:36.279 --> 00:15:39.720 do pop Star? Because pop stars? Also yeahs Ireland. Yeah 336 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:40.759 he directed. 337 00:15:40.759 --> 00:15:44.679 Directed it with drama apparently. Yeah, he's so directed hot Road. 338 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:46.960 I need to rewatch pop Star. It did not like 339 00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:49.360 the way that it hits everyone else. And I bet 340 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:50.559 now that I've seen it once. 341 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:53.559 Okay, this is why I asked a couple of weeks ago, 342 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:56.200 is was beIN load and just to shoot bad dude 343 00:15:56.240 --> 00:16:02.960 all around? Because fantastic lotten song is such a banger 344 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:03.559 of a song. 345 00:16:05.399 --> 00:16:10.080 Yeah, I think, yeah, it's pretty good. 346 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:12.720 I think we would have healed as a society and 347 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:17.399 been on a different track if we had more celebratory 348 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:19.000 songs that we killed Ben Lauden. 349 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:23.480 Yeah, like, but also the song is also about sex. 350 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:26.720 Yeah yeah, you know, like maybe did he wouldn't have 351 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:28.480 so many freakoffs if he. 352 00:16:28.600 --> 00:16:31.240 Just celebrated breakoffs. He's not celebrating it. 353 00:16:31.399 --> 00:16:34.519 I think there is anything in the world and stopping. 354 00:16:34.759 --> 00:16:39.559 Maybe Kanye would have been fine now if he just celebrated. No, 355 00:16:39.639 --> 00:16:42.159 I don't know, pe hold on, I can find another 356 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:48.639 non problematic uh music star Auric Kelly would have been No, okay, 357 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:53.679 there you go, not nailed in one jan didn't make music. 358 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:57.679 But you're right, you're right, there's I got nothing there. 359 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:00.039 All that also happened before nine only. 360 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:02.039 Yeah. 361 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:05.799 Well anyway, Uh this this podcast hell out brads that 362 00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:06.960 we killed. 363 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:10.480 It's the week for it. 364 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:15.279 Oh yeah, it is. Talk about timing. 365 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:17.599 Wow, well, we are not gonna let I live an 366 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:21.319 overshadow dreamcast day here and never again? 367 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:22.400 Is what we say to that? 368 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:25.559 Oh god, uh not. 369 00:17:25.839 --> 00:17:29.119 We're the handsomest podcast on the internet, folks, what do 370 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:32.359 you say we talk? Anyone else have anything else they 371 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:33.319 want to get off their chest. 372 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:35.960 I don't know we're the handsomest podcast on the internet 373 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:37.799 because I don't know. If you saw Hanson's Rapid Fire 374 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:40.720 with Nate Fox from Sucker Punch, we talked about putting 375 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:42.559 me in the game, but didn't put Ben Reeves in 376 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:45.200 because Ben Reeves was too handsome, Acause they scanned both 377 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:46.759 of us and said, oh, we couldn't put Ben Reeves 378 00:17:46.759 --> 00:17:49.720 in because he was too handsome. He was distracting over 379 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:50.160 the game. 380 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:55.880 I did not know that there was such a backhanded 381 00:17:55.880 --> 00:18:00.119 compliment out there. Yeah, we got sucker punch. 382 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:02.680 Makeet picking in our video games. You're not handsome? 383 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:08.240 Yeah, yeah, you you got real n PC energy, like yeah, wow, 384 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:11.960 the most common NPC and infamous second no, specifically that 385 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:14.759 first Neon whatever one all over that. 386 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:17.039 There is a fucking scene. There's a side mission in 387 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:19.519 that game where it's like a sex trafficker and you 388 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:22.240 have to like follow cameras and stuff to watch them, 389 00:18:22.279 --> 00:18:24.599 like go from spot to spot in the city, and 390 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:33.400 it's fucking me and pink Adda's tracksuit walking around, Like why. 391 00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:34.039 Giving you a heads up if we're going to cast 392 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:35.359 you as a sex. 393 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:38.000 Like you just do generic commercial reads and so that 394 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:39.880 you find out you're like in a Herpes commercial like 395 00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:41.440 the Yeah. 396 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:43.559 Yes, I'd be fine. I still got the bag. You know, 397 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:46.240 I could live that life for sure. 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We played Chronos and 416 00:19:51.599 --> 00:19:54.640 we finished off the day by with these two experts, 417 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:57.799 Dan Reikert and Jeff Becklar, with a little assist from Dibb, 418 00:19:58.160 --> 00:20:02.000 teaching me how to play Sodoku. Uh. I was ignorant 419 00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:05.079 because I thought Sudoku involved math, and I don't like math. 420 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:10.000 In fact, it's just patterns, numbers and tiles, and I logiciles. 421 00:20:10.039 --> 00:20:14.000 It's logic. And since that day, I have been doing 422 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:17.119 nothing but place really on my phone. I bought it. 423 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:20.000 Oh my god, yes. 424 00:20:19.720 --> 00:20:23.240 And then I started looking up strategies. I found the 425 00:20:23.319 --> 00:20:27.279 crosshatched strategy, the X wing, the Y wing, and then 426 00:20:27.759 --> 00:20:30.720 I was I kind of got lost in the sauce 427 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:33.640 and I I was just staring at the page and 428 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:36.839 I was getting the numbers right, and I didn't quite 429 00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:39.720 know how I was doing it, but I saw and 430 00:20:39.759 --> 00:20:43.000 I felt great. There's some of the names for the 431 00:20:43.039 --> 00:20:43.720 strats are. 432 00:20:43.960 --> 00:20:56.640 Problematic, like like like like naked and like weird naked pairs. 433 00:20:56.799 --> 00:20:59.960 It's okay, was an old game. It was different back then. 434 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:06.839 And how did you guys originally learn to play Sudoka 435 00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:08.920 guest Brainage yep. 436 00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:11.599 I thought that's when it was invented, but apparently it's. 437 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:17.519 Remember those crappy little PDAs for like ten. 438 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:20.720 Yeah, the only game on Brainage. 439 00:21:20.720 --> 00:21:25.599 One was great because it had that handwriting recognition. You know, 440 00:21:25.880 --> 00:21:28.200 if you could pencil mark in it? Could you just 441 00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:29.440 turn the way you could? 442 00:21:29.759 --> 00:21:31.440 You could pencil mark? You could? You could? 443 00:21:31.640 --> 00:21:34.039 Yeah, if you did like tiny tiny numbers and stuff, 444 00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:35.319 I think it would just put it right, like. 445 00:21:35.759 --> 00:21:38.200 Different corners depending on if you have different reasons, different 446 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:39.160 logical reasons for that. 447 00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:43.000 Yeah, but yes, I fell all the way in and 448 00:21:43.839 --> 00:21:46.200 it was I was at a bookstore and I was 449 00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:47.839 looking at a Sadoka book and I was just staring 450 00:21:47.880 --> 00:21:50.559 at him, like these patterns fucking suck. These boards suck. 451 00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:52.319 I threw the book away and then I found a 452 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:57.039 better one. Also, it's it's so bad, guys, I feel 453 00:21:57.079 --> 00:21:58.119 like my depression is cured. 454 00:21:58.240 --> 00:22:00.839 Well that's what it was originally in vage. It's probably 455 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:07.599 good therapeutic. No, but what's amazing about Sudoku is that 456 00:22:08.519 --> 00:22:11.559 you there are like each puzzle kind of has like 457 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:14.559 an attitude, right, Like it has like a sort of 458 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:17.880 personality where you're like, oh, you're doing this fucking thing. 459 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:20.599 You're doing this fucking thing where like you're making all 460 00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:23.640 the sixes showing up in this way. Like I think 461 00:22:23.680 --> 00:22:26.559 that's what's really amazing about it. I guess the same 462 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:28.319 thing if you said, for like crosswords, right where like 463 00:22:28.359 --> 00:22:29.640 they have a theme kind of. 464 00:22:29.559 --> 00:22:31.880 Like yeah, there's an editorial. 465 00:22:32.200 --> 00:22:36.680 People like the non computer set Sudoku's are. 466 00:22:36.519 --> 00:22:42.559 Like can be very very interesting. Are you guys familiar 467 00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:46.519 with like the the current trend of uh ragging on performance? 468 00:22:46.880 --> 00:22:51.680 What that means no, okay, So like a performative male 469 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:53.599 is like a dude that will show up to a 470 00:22:53.640 --> 00:22:56.400 coffee shop or a park will have a boat bag, 471 00:22:56.920 --> 00:23:00.359 a macho latte, and a book that he's not actually reading. 472 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:05.359 Sure this, I still don't get what you're describing. Migrated 473 00:23:05.480 --> 00:23:06.160 to l A. 474 00:23:06.599 --> 00:23:08.680 Just you know someone is putting on, like the guy 475 00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:12.279 at the coffee shop that is working on his specscript 476 00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:14.240 has been doing that for years. 477 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:15.160 Jan Jane. 478 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:17.200 Question from someone who used to live in San Francisco. 479 00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:19.039 There was a guy that rode my route a lot 480 00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:21.720 on the on the muni and he would stand up 481 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:24.240 and he would read Atlas Shrugged and. 482 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:34.359 No, I have a picture of him. 483 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:36.680 Can you that's a good Is that a good example? Jan? 484 00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:37.759 Can you give me another one? 485 00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:39.119 Yeah? 486 00:23:39.160 --> 00:23:39.559 Is that it? 487 00:23:39.920 --> 00:23:40.279 I think? 488 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:44.559 Just think me if I was if I was more 489 00:23:44.599 --> 00:23:47.599 of an ask more of an ass self aware. 490 00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:50.240 Now hang on, now, hang on, Jan. 491 00:23:50.359 --> 00:23:52.440 I had to search this because this is one of 492 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:54.279 those instances where you make me feel like one of 493 00:23:54.319 --> 00:23:57.039 the olds of the group. Apparently this is someone who 494 00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:00.359 pretends to be into feminism. 495 00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:05.839 To yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, a soft a soft boy, 496 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:15.279 soft boy. And then yeah, some of those woke. We 497 00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:19.279 have a title there, we go, got it all right, 498 00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:23.720 We can have dashes in the RSS feed. But I 499 00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:26.319 had a SKU book and I was staring at it 500 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:28.839 while I was waiting for my coffee. And then I 501 00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:33.079 these like two to these two people were staring at me, 502 00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:34.920 and I was staring at them, and like they were 503 00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:38.119 also two dudes with like a tote bag and their 504 00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:40.680 own little book, and like the other guy had a journal. 505 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:42.079 And I think we just kind of did like a 506 00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:44.519 Spider Man meme for a second of like wait a minute, 507 00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:46.599 like are you for real for real? Or you not 508 00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:49.599 for real? Because my my dumb butt forgot to have 509 00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:51.799 a pen with me. So I was just staring at 510 00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:55.039 a like SKU book, tried to do the solutions in 511 00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:59.200 my head anyway, video games actual shoot video games. Something 512 00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:01.839 else we played on you PF that I was a 513 00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:04.680 little bit on the fence about and Jeff Backlar eventually 514 00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:07.960 cleared that again, thankfully through the guidance of our friend 515 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:14.640 from Christian friend Christian from Argentina, Kronos. The new down Baklar. 516 00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:16.759 Have you spent more time with this has has the 517 00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:19.359 fence bug traumatized? 518 00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:22.720 As I mean I've spent about like eight nine hours 519 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:24.880 on this game. I guess ninety minutes of that was 520 00:25:24.880 --> 00:25:28.039 sort of like redoing that whole section where we couldn't 521 00:25:28.039 --> 00:25:32.000 get by what was some sort of I don't know, 522 00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:34.240 it was some sort of glitch, some sort of locking 523 00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:37.680 glitch where there was this asset that manifests this spawn 524 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:40.960 in my save and I could not leave an area. 525 00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:43.680 If you watch you PF, it was like, yeah, it 526 00:25:43.759 --> 00:25:49.319 was funny, but it was frustrating for sure. I that 527 00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:53.920 moment is not indicative of the entire sort of game. 528 00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:57.119 I think this game is fine. There are moments where 529 00:25:57.160 --> 00:26:00.799 I really enjoy it. It is a third person shooter 530 00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:04.960 survival horror game that like really kind of wishes it 531 00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:07.960 was resident evil in a lot of ways, which is a. 532 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:10.440 Good thing to want to be. It also feels like 533 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:15.039 it also feels like it's it's trying to go You 534 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:19.480 said this during UPF, but it's trying to like incorporate elements. 535 00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:21.680 The most dead space out of any other game for sure, 536 00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:25.440 like right down to the stomping right. 537 00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:28.839 Yeah, but like go ahead, sorry is it no? No? 538 00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:28.960 No? 539 00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:31.839 Sorry? Is it pulling off like that same scary tone 540 00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:34.720 where it's like building the tension in a way where 541 00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:39.640 you are from that section in UPF you were kind 542 00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:42.200 of precious about your your supplies and everything. But like 543 00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:46.319 I feel like dead Space constantly builds on on that 544 00:26:46.440 --> 00:26:48.839 tension on top of like even if you don't have 545 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:53.319 the supplies, does this chronos also Yeah, that spookiness. 546 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:55.240 So yes, it maintains the spooking is dead Space is 547 00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:58.319 better at sort of choreographing the things you want out 548 00:26:58.359 --> 00:27:02.240 of that where this game, I think, to a fault 549 00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:06.880 sort of like reminds you it's a video game because 550 00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:10.319 you are you are handcuffed by certain you know, mechanics, right, 551 00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:14.079 So like I don't want the sort of immersion to 552 00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:17.640 be broken when I'm like, you know, spinning plates of 553 00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:19.640 inventory and trying to like make things worry. And I 554 00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:22.319 think there's like certain quality of life things that just 555 00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:24.759 are not in this game that I'm kind of surprised by. 556 00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:28.640 Like you can't quick turn around, you can't you know, 557 00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:30.599 if you don't have an inventory slot left and there's 558 00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:33.759 like bullets staring you in the face, you can't pick 559 00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:36.160 them up. And I just don't get it. I can't 560 00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:38.480 live in a world where like this is how a 561 00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:42.599 game refuses to work. I maybe it's petty, Maybe I'm 562 00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:45.799 just being a petulant shithead, but like, come on, fix 563 00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:48.240 that allow me to put the bullets in my gun. 564 00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:50.119 I don't want to have to, like, and it's not 565 00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:53.079 like you can just you know, drop something else and 566 00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:54.079 then pick it back up. 567 00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:54.799 You have to. 568 00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:57.200 Delete it, right, You have to like just like burn 569 00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:00.440 whatever the inventory occupier is. 570 00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:03.680 So that's stupid. Don't do that? Do better? 571 00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:07.039 Yeah, But I mean, like overall, like you know, I 572 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:09.039 think that I said this in the upf the best 573 00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:11.839 part of this game is the world building, is the mystery, 574 00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:13.079 is the sort of like. 575 00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:15.519 Yeah, this was what gonna I was gonna ask, Like 576 00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:17.920 the sounds like there are plenty of things to complain about, 577 00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:21.480 but like for like the back of our scale of 578 00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:23.359 like coming into one of these games and wanted to like, 579 00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:26.000 you know, hit your buttons or whatever. How is it 580 00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:28.559 doing on that front? Is it delivering on the spookiness 581 00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:31.519 and the you know, the the world whatever question. 582 00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:35.559 I think in those departments, it's ticking those boxes. It's 583 00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:40.039 scary enough, you know, like the scare flavor it is 584 00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:42.640 is like goopy, and I don't always love the goopy. 585 00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:51.400 It's fleshy and like bulbous, fleshy goopy, not like nor. 586 00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:53.400 Without a doubt. 587 00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:55.480 Like you guys, you didn't really see a lot of 588 00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:58.359 the the baddies in this, but they are all like 589 00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:00.359 horrific for reeks. 590 00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:04.160 Biological terror. Uh, it is not great. 591 00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:06.720 Where does it land on? Like the Geiger counter? 592 00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:07.920 Is it like very? 593 00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:10.359 I mean it's the most you've got, like, and they 594 00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:13.279 can merge, the enemies can merge with them with each other, 595 00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:15.319 so like if one of them is like an acid 596 00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.559 spinner and the other one is like an eight armed 597 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:22.319 you know, teeth freak, Like, they'll fuck in real time 598 00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:25.519 and merge and then you're fighting the combination of that, 599 00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:26.680 which is interesting. 600 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:29.880 But also you know, it's it's just a lot. It's 601 00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:32.200 just that, you know, I know, but. 602 00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:34.400 Is it is. 603 00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:36.440 It kind of like the modern Resident Evils with the 604 00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:37.759 molded and how there's. 605 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:39.880 A little bit I think that's a good one way 606 00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:42.039 to look at it, but just more flesh colored. 607 00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:44.720 Yeah, I mean some of those characters they looked really 608 00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:45.640 like the things in the basement. 609 00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:47.079 Yeah that was a boss that. 610 00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:51.599 Like the licorice wrapped around it like that. 611 00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:53.640 But you know, yeah, I mean, I. 612 00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:57.359 Think I'm enjoying my time with it for the most part, 613 00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:01.440 save for the sort of mind numbingly you know, shortcoming 614 00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:03.880 with the quality of life stuff. That stuff I just 615 00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:05.799 kind of can't stand for. So I feel like it 616 00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:08.400 is like a six to seven kind of thing. And 617 00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:12.960 for me, you know, that is what this game is. 618 00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:15.160 I'm going to see it through. I'm going to finish 619 00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:17.640 it because, like I said, the story is intriguing enough, 620 00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:21.519 and I this game scares me. Like this game there 621 00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:24.039 are moments where I'm just like, what are you doing? 622 00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:27.039 I've also got run into spots where like I can't 623 00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:30.759 kill this boss because I'm out of AMMO, I'm locked 624 00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:32.680 in an area and I'm just running around. 625 00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:34.400 I'm not going to melee it to death. 626 00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:37.160 Uh you know, you have to use fire to really 627 00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:40.000 sort of accelerate killing a lot of these enemies, and 628 00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:41.599 if you run out of all that and you have 629 00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:44.119 no AMMO, you're sort of just handcuffed. 630 00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:44.279 And that sucks. 631 00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:45.599 I don't want I don't ever want there to be 632 00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:50.480 a situation where I'm just burned like that. But uh yeah, 633 00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:54.079 I'm I'm I land on the on the better side 634 00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:55.240 of the average scale. 635 00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:56.200 What's edge. 636 00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:02.720 Or not you Yeah, okay, all right, halfway done? 637 00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:08.039 Okay, Uh, how big of a development team is you know, 638 00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:12.440 it is like how much Silent Hill to remake a team? 639 00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:14.960 How much of that team worked on Chronos. I'm curious. 640 00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:17.880 I mean, I'm sure they're like, yeah, I'm sure they 641 00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:20.359 all zipped over to help on that once. Uh some 642 00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:21.160 it was out, but. 643 00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:24.759 Yeah, Wikipedia says fifty I was gone. 644 00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:25.880 Undred and fifty. I gues two hundred fifty is what 645 00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:27.440 you would need for two of these games kind of 646 00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:28.759 come up pretty close together when. 647 00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:31.799 Oh yeah, yeah that's from there about page So yeah, 648 00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:33.200 I really wonder. 649 00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:35.039 Like if they're you know, I guess it all depends 650 00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:37.079 on how this game does. I think this is a 651 00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:39.599 game that's like a good start and maybe a really 652 00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:41.640 solid sequel is in the future, but I don't know 653 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:44.359 if that's the ambition, if that's where this studio is 654 00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:44.759 going to go. 655 00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:49.400 I'll be interesting to see how the switch to version does, 656 00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:51.440 because it's like, maybe maybe that one hits because it's 657 00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:53.559 oh a spooky game on the switch to maybe it's 658 00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:56.440 a chance of breaking out, but kind of and. 659 00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:58.759 It will say playing this on PC and performance wise 660 00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:02.880 it like has not in the best I'm I am 661 00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:06.039 using the frame generation d ll d L S S 662 00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:08.480 as well, and like, you know, I'm trying to in 663 00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:10.440 four K on our on our four eighties here or 664 00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:13.039 four nineties whatever we have, and yeah, it's hitching up 665 00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:18.279 a little bit. So yeah, or you know, I don't know, 666 00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:22.079 maybe I have a fried CPU and that which. 667 00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:24.200 Is also is definitely a possibility. 668 00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:29.119 So but yeah, like I said, the the the cinematic 669 00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:31.240 kind of moments. Again, there's not a lot of characters 670 00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:33.359 that you can kind of like identify with here, but 671 00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:37.000 the cinematic stuff is really interesting and you're sort of 672 00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.160 just like you know, because I said in the in 673 00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:41.200 UPF it's kind of like this twelve Monkeys thing where 674 00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:43.640 like they're sending people to the past to kind of 675 00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:47.160 figure out what the hell happened, and some of that 676 00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:48.440 stuff is really interesting. 677 00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:50.640 Uh, and it's and and then they. 678 00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:53.960 Don't flirt too much with like, oh, you're you're screwing 679 00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:56.720 around with time travel and you're violating all these things, 680 00:32:56.720 --> 00:32:58.880 and it's just annoying because you're just kind of like 681 00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:01.680 making the narrative of work to tell the story. Like 682 00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:03.880 I haven't run into any of that where I'm sort 683 00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:08.079 of rolling my eyes, But yeah, it's cool. You know, 684 00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:11.079 I think if you're like me, you probably have an 685 00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:13.240 easier time slipping into a game like this. I don't 686 00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:17.400 know how universally appealing that might be, though, there. 687 00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:21.319 You go, awesome. Well, it sounds like you had a 688 00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:24.839 hellish time navigating the spooky scaries of it, just like 689 00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:28.799 Mike Minati has had a hellish time dealing with mods 690 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:34.039 in the hottest newest game out, Diablo one. It made 691 00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:38.160 him skip a funeral. It's so hot, Mike, I need 692 00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:40.480 to say this. I can't believe you missed a funeral. 693 00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:49.240 You got okay, but with it, buddy. 694 00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:50.599 One hundred and two, that's a that's a major achievement 695 00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:51.160 in life. 696 00:33:51.599 --> 00:34:02.160 Yeah, I went to her birthday party. 697 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:03.759 That I'm not inviting a berth. No, I was traveling. 698 00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:06.799 I was busy working for use Lub, so I missed 699 00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:08.199 her one hundred birthday. 700 00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:10.280 She only died two years later. 701 00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:21.199 I don't feel that about I see the funeral Diopolo one. Yeah, 702 00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:21.760 I love. 703 00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:23.280 When I asked him if it was like a travel thing, 704 00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:24.800 He's like, no, it was very local. 705 00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:30.920 Yeah, it was as funeral as Mike Manati is. 706 00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:34.280 Your brother showed up to the discords out hall later 707 00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:36.719 and I thought we were getting like served papers. 708 00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:40.360 He was told not to go. I listened to my 709 00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:43.760 dad like that said don't go. I'm I guess, sir, father, sir, 710 00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:49.239 anything you say, I have another twenty all right. Diopolo 711 00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:50.960 one is a game I always wanted to play when 712 00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:53.320 every league did. I loved Diabolo two when Dipple one 713 00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:55.519 came out as a little early for me. But something 714 00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:58.159 about the up one, you know, I know, spooky season 715 00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:00.639 extending in September is like a little bit of a 716 00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:04.280 hot topic, but it's definitely fall vibes. And even more 717 00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.079 than spooky, I get fall vibes from those Diablo games, 718 00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:10.559 especially Diabolo one, because Tristram is kind of surprisingly cozy 719 00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:14.159 for a game haunted by the Devil. There's that weird 720 00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:18.280 guitar music. Everything's just kind of dark and you know, 721 00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:22.320 you know, chili and a fun way. I played this 722 00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:26.119 because on goog you can buy the original game, but 723 00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:29.840 you can also just from their storefront, get this mod. 724 00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:32.000 It just gets added to your library. It's just the 725 00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:35.159 executable that you open and it runs the game with 726 00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:37.079 this mode. Automatically. It's called Beel's Above. 727 00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:37.559 Now. 728 00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:41.480 I thought it was just an HD mod, but it 729 00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:43.920 actually is a lot more than that. There's a lot 730 00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:47.000 of UI stuff and quality left stuff that basically kind 731 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:49.719 of makes the game a bit more like Diablo two 732 00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:52.960 in a lot of ways, Like you know when you're 733 00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:54.880 buying and selling stuff that that just looks like that 734 00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:56.880 now instead of just seeing a list of things that 735 00:35:56.920 --> 00:36:00.440 you can get from them. But they also add a 736 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:01.960 lot of stuff, and so a lot of it was 737 00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:05.199 cut content, like oh, when you fight the butcher, you 738 00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:07.159 know in the original game, just open up his little 739 00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.039 room and he comes down and swims at you, and 740 00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:12.199 here you have to open up a scroll of town 741 00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:13.920 portal and then you go into his lair and there's 742 00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:15.440 a little F and B cut scene and then you 743 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:19.480 fight him. So port me is like neat, but I 744 00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:21.400 think I kind of wanted to do that the original 745 00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:24.239 way that there's a I think it overreaches a bit 746 00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:27.760 and what it's changing. Also apparently it's kind of a 747 00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.920 big difficulty upswinging that. I don't know if it's because 748 00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:33.960 they're rebalancing things, because they added all these extra side missions, 749 00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:37.199 even added player abilities that weren't in the original game, 750 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:39.760 and classes and things like that too, So it's been 751 00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:43.719 a very difficult experience actually, Like I am really struggling 752 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:45.480 each time I go to a new floor. It's some 753 00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:52.039 giant difficulty curve. So sometimes I've gotten surprisingly frustrated with it, 754 00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:53.840 and I'm like, I think I actually just want to 755 00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:55.400 go find a mod that is more of a pure 756 00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:58.159 HD conversion than this. Maybe I'd like that more. I 757 00:36:58.159 --> 00:36:59.920 don't know, but now I'm like fifteen hours in, so 758 00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:01.599 too deep. I got to see it through. 759 00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:05.440 Well, okay, we have to see it through. Your shy 760 00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:07.360 would probably transfer might well, God, I don't know. With 761 00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:08.760 all that content, it might break. 762 00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:09.679 You could try. Yeah, I don't know. 763 00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:11.679 It's weird because I think they even added items that 764 00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:13.800 weren't in the original This one, I don't know, probably 765 00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:15.719 just like zap Away, but I don't know if there's 766 00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:18.000 might not work. But mostly I think the mod is 767 00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:19.360 very but I don't think this is the mod you 768 00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:21.280 should play. If this is like I want to finally 769 00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.320 experience Diabolo one, it almost seems like a mod for 770 00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:25.800 Diablo heads, Like. 771 00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:27.280 Look, it's like a total conversion. 772 00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:30.880 Did they do a Diabolo one re released recently, am 773 00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:32.000 I misremember. 774 00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:32.440 They never did. 775 00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:32.559 They did. 776 00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:36.760 An event where they brought in a lot of like 777 00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:39.480 the kind of remade Diablo one in Diablo three, but 778 00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:40.599 that was a limited time. 779 00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:44.440 There's also Devolution x grub. 780 00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:46.599 You may have seen that like retro gaming channels like 781 00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:48.559 retro game Core, because they do show down. That's like 782 00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:50.719 the I think it was a decompilation that they then 783 00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:53.920 turned into a PC port. I think if people are 784 00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:57.239 looking for a more faithful version of Diabolo one, maybe 785 00:37:57.320 --> 00:37:58.280 that would be. 786 00:37:58.199 --> 00:37:58.960 The one to go to. 787 00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:01.760 I don't think they're graphical mods, but I think they're 788 00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:04.039 the quality of life stuff is in there, So may 789 00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:06.519 may that be song for you check out as well, Mike. 790 00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:08.079 I know it's a little more of alved. It's not 791 00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:10.079 just like go og. You press a bun and the 792 00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:11.920 rockets installed, but that. 793 00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:14.440 Will help and you sometimes you can even use two 794 00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:17.119 mods at once, so you yeah, well it's. 795 00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:20.400 Crazy, Yeah, so yeah, I was. 796 00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:21.880 I was a little thrown up with them all. 797 00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:24.519 But Diabo one is still really interesting and fun, and 798 00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:27.199 I like the setup of it. You compared to Diablo two, 799 00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:29.559 where you have all these acts and you're traveling different places. 800 00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:30.000 I like that. 801 00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:33.639 It's just here's your one town, and here's your one dungeon, 802 00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:36.800 and it's a very big dungeon, and you're just gonna 803 00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:39.760 keep going down and down and down till eventually you 804 00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:43.239 get to Hell and fight Satan. That's a good setup, 805 00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:47.840 you know. Even something about the way these older action 806 00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:49.760 and RPG's working. You know, this is basically the first 807 00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:51.840 one where it's just like I mostly have to just 808 00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:54.119 click it on people and just sleep in a sword 809 00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:57.480 and maybe maybe a good item will drop. Probably not, 810 00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:00.559 but when it does drop, it's exciting. There is something 811 00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:03.920 about the way Diablo four has sort of evolved into 812 00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:08.199 just spamming ten attacks on short cool downs at all time. 813 00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:12.280 That's summon like fifteen were wolves or meteors or giant 814 00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:14.840 rolling boulders, and you're you know, there's dodge slop in 815 00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:17.559 Diablo now and stuff like that, and normally I like 816 00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:20.599 dodge slop, but I don't know, it's all gotten to 817 00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:24.400 be a bit much, and it's barely about the campaign anymore. 818 00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:27.880 It's about the seasonal content and the running riffs and 819 00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:30.280 rays or whatever the heck it's all called. There's a 820 00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:31.679 periody here, Oh yes, Jeff Grub. 821 00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:33.920 Yeah, I'm just looking at our list of games, and 822 00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:35.920 I was busy last night so i'd have a chance 823 00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:38.360 to see didn't you try Pillars of Maternity two? 824 00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:40.440 Yeah, So it's interesting because I did play Pills of 825 00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:43.079 Eternity too last night for a couple hours, and it 826 00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:46.159 was kind of bizarre to spend all weekend playing the 827 00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:49.000 first one of these and then spend some time in 828 00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:52.639 the newest one of these that game is in early access. 829 00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:52.920 Yeah. 830 00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:56.760 I enjoyed that people always have oversold the Path of. 831 00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:00.960 Path. I'm always going to be yeah. 832 00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:05.360 XL sorry, yeah Path similar names there, but yeah, like 833 00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:08.039 I think Path of Exile has always been oversold to me, 834 00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:10.960 as like that's it's more like Diablo two than Diablo three. 835 00:40:11.239 --> 00:40:13.440 Whenever I play it, I'm like a kind of this 836 00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:16.960 still mostly feels more like a Diablo three or a 837 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:19.360 four to me than a Diablo one or two. 838 00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:20.360 And I get it. 839 00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:23.519 Not other people, not many other people are old sickos 840 00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:26.320 like me who really want to go that far back. 841 00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:30.880 But yeah, Path of Exile two was definitely interesting and 842 00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:33.039 it seemed like a good time. I was having fun 843 00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:36.159 with it. I would like to maybe explored a bit more. 844 00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:38.719 I do find it interesting that you say that, because, 845 00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:41.199 as far as I know, like I don't follow the 846 00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:44.760 scene too closely or anything, but Diablo three was, as 847 00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:46.400 far as I know, so different that a lot of 848 00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:48.880 Diablo two has went over a Path of Exile one 849 00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:52.119 and that sort of became their new Diablo because it was, 850 00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:54.880 you know, still a big development team like sort of 851 00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:58.880 fans making the game that Diablo fans want. And it's 852 00:40:58.920 --> 00:40:59.920 interesting to hear you describe it. 853 00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:03.079 Yeah, I mean that was definitely what happened, especially early 854 00:41:03.159 --> 00:41:06.280 Diablo three. Path of Exile completely benefited from that. But 855 00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:08.559 even then, like I heard that, so I would go 856 00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:11.199 play Path x al one and I kind of got it, 857 00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:14.280 but for some reason it was it wasn't clicking for 858 00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:17.239 me right away. This one was clicking for me a 859 00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:20.800 bit more, especially because aesthetically, you know, it looks stocking. Look, 860 00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:23.239 it's everything that you want from a one of these. 861 00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:25.400 I mean, this this one. If if it told me 862 00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:28.039 this is Diabolo four and we never got the other one, 863 00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:31.320 I'd be like, oh, okay, sure, it's very much in 864 00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:34.360 that wheelhouse. So it was a good time. Some of 865 00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:36.960 the free to play e stuff of it even though 866 00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:38.960 Diablo four basically has all of that too. Now, right, 867 00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:42.239 Like I push M because I expect M to be 868 00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:44.639 the map button. It turns out the m stins for 869 00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:47.960 micro transactions open up and it's like the page where 870 00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:51.159 it's just like, you know, like Season of the Blood 871 00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:56.440 God Pack cosmetic. You know, do I have to let 872 00:41:56.440 --> 00:41:58.199 any of that stuff really get in my face and 873 00:41:58.239 --> 00:41:58.679 bother me? 874 00:41:58.760 --> 00:41:58.920 No? 875 00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:01.480 Not really, Yeah, it kind of bothers me when I 876 00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:04.280 just open up this page. It's like fifteen logos for 877 00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:08.639 things that sound like magic the Gathering expansion rejects, you know. 878 00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:15.599 Just send those links my way, then, Mike Well, speaking 879 00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:20.559 about tinkering and testing things out, our own expert resident 880 00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:24.119 fighting game person. That's right, he's fighting on the streets 881 00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:27.079 and on the internet. Turbot Shawn Sean McDowell. You got 882 00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:30.079 the chance to check out the Marvel Tocon beta. 883 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:31.840 Yes, I did. 884 00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:34.719 And it's funny you say, you know, tinkering and testing, 885 00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:37.760 because that's not what I really had a chance to 886 00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.920 do with a beta. Let me talk about the beta 887 00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:43.239 itself for a second here. It was one of those 888 00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:45.599 betas and I hate this. I get why they do this, 889 00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:48.440 especially if they're doing network testing, but it was at 890 00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:52.480 very specific times throughout the weekend, okay, and so like, yeah, 891 00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:54.760 let me read this off. It was what would this 892 00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:58.559 be my time? It was like eleven pm to five 893 00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:02.320 am Friday, and then it was seven am to one 894 00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:07.920 pm Saturday, and then they are like five to eleven, 895 00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:11.280 and then an early morning Sunday it was like four 896 00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:14.599 to something. And because of that, I only had a 897 00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:17.280 chance to play in a little bit of it, only 898 00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:20.000 like a couple hours on Saturday evening because I was like, well, 899 00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:21.719 it's a beata, I'll you know, be able to play 900 00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:24.320 whenever I got my code, like towards the end of 901 00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:27.519 session two, and then I was busy on Sunday, so 902 00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:29.800 I could really only play in one session, but I 903 00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:31.880 still got a couple hours in. I still mention GI 904 00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:35.039 in there. The second layer problems comes from a fact 905 00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:38.760 that this seems to be the EVO build gameplay wise, 906 00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:42.960 but instead of putting you into a local versus multiplayer, 907 00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:47.360 it puts you into the online lobbies, not matchmaking. ARC 908 00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:50.239 system Works online lobbies, which is if you've ever seen it, 909 00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:51.960 you may have seen it by this point. It's the 910 00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:53.960 one where they have the little chibi avatars, you know, 911 00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:57.719 like Dragon Ball Fighters, Aikh's running running, running around the 912 00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:01.360 virtual arcade, which is all awful for a beta because 913 00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:03.639 I just I went to one of the busier lobbies. 914 00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:06.480 I just sat there waiting for someone to walk up 915 00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:09.400 to me and get some matches in. So I spent like, 916 00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:11.440 you know, close to half the beta just waiting. 917 00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:12.280 That sucked. 918 00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:15.079 That's bizarre that there's no button to just be like, yeah, 919 00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:16.599 I'll be into a match now. 920 00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:23.000 Yeah, like there is in their full games. The beta yeah, 921 00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:25.400 because they yeah, they know that people don't like that anymore, 922 00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:27.800 and yet this is the what they chose for the beta, 923 00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:29.960 presumably show off all the Marvel stuff that they have 924 00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.079 in there. It's cute, like it is neat to run 925 00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:34.440 around as like you know, the Gunda'm looking iron Man 926 00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:37.320 and stuff, but like not for a beta, come on, Neil. Anyways, 927 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:39.360 the game itself, I did have a chance to like 928 00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:43.079 play it more and figure it out more, and at 929 00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:46.199 first I was still sort of cautiously optimistic, kind of 930 00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:49.599 concerned about it because they really want you to play 931 00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.800 with like the modern controller control scheme where they have 932 00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:56.360 everything separated as its own bun which kind of feels 933 00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:59.039 like control soup because it's like, yeah, we have light, medium, 934 00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:01.800 and heavy buns, but then there's also a special bun 935 00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:03.880 and you press this sort of like the b bun 936 00:45:03.880 --> 00:45:05.679 and smash. You press the direction and the special and 937 00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:08.199 does an attack. But then there's also the unique bun, 938 00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:11.400 which is every character's unique trait, which also has a 939 00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:15.079 forward downer backs, and then there's the tag bun, which 940 00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:19.360 also has forward downer back, and then you pressed combinations 941 00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:23.280 of these buns to do soupers and stuff, which that 942 00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:25.559 was a lot to take in and also like confuse 943 00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:29.159 my fighting game brain of like man light, medium, heavy 944 00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:32.239 and then doing quarter circles and Z emotions sounds like 945 00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:35.719 it would actually be easier. It clicked a little bit 946 00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:38.840 more once I realized that they're basically doing the street 947 00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:45.320 fighter modern controls thing and learning how to insert special 948 00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:47.599 moves and the unique moves, because like the difference of 949 00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:50.239 special moves will be the generic stuff like a fireball, 950 00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:52.519 an uppercut, you know that sort of like REU kind 951 00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:55.519 of stuff, and then unique will be say Captain America, 952 00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:59.159 his neutral special is to throw his shield bouncing around 953 00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:01.760 like you would see like the Maer movies. And stuff, 954 00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:03.920 and it becomes a trap for the enemy to walk into. 955 00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:06.880 You press back and unique again it's not our shield 956 00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:09.239 thing very specific to Captain America where it takes a 957 00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:13.039 defensive stance. It's like the DOWNBA with fire emblem characters 958 00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:16.239 and smash, you know, defensive stance. If you get attacked, 959 00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:19.400 is one counter hit that kind of thing. And so 960 00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:22.480 once you actually learn how it works with your control 961 00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:25.639 scheme of choice, it's very fun and I think it's 962 00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:29.480 also very approachable once you again are comfortable with your 963 00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:33.480 control scheme of choice, controller, stick, leverless, whatever you play on, 964 00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:37.719 because there are auto combos, and it was the thing 965 00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.400 that people were concerned about because auto combos are very 966 00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:44.519 good actually, but there's also different options, so it feels 967 00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:46.559 a little more like To me, it felt more like 968 00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:50.000 chain combos and something that I like, say Darkstalkers, where 969 00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:52.519 you kind of do just press bunds in series to 970 00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:55.920 get different combos. And I think sometimes that's very daunting 971 00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:58.400 for people playing fighting games, is figuring out, Oh, I 972 00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:01.199 have to memorize a combo. I have to like memorize 973 00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:04.280 what move goes into another move. I think it's good 974 00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:07.440 that the base level it is very simple to just 975 00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:10.440 get combos done, and that's more about the positioning of 976 00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:14.079 you versus your opponent. And then my concerns were also 977 00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:17.119 alleviated when I saw, say, Sonic Fox was playing. Over 978 00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:19.880 the weekend, I watched the Tampa Never Sleeps tournament that 979 00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:23.239 they did a little bit and seeing a high level 980 00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:26.679 and seeing people still doing like those forty hit combos 981 00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:29.360 and stuff. I looked at that, I'm like, oh, wait, no, 982 00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:32.280 it's you know, it's got that Marvel versus Capcom in here, 983 00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:34.360 Like there's a little bit of it feels weird to 984 00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:39.000 say uncanny valley because it looks gorgeous, it sounds amazing, 985 00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:43.039 like the soundtrack is phenomenal, it's presentation wise amazing, but 986 00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:46.800 there's that uncanny valley of it's not quite Marvel versus cafcom, 987 00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:50.480 which is what I expect, but no, it's like it's 988 00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:53.679 close in a lot of ways, and that that's close 989 00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:57.079 to the drug comparison, right, yeah, exactly, that kernel being 990 00:47:57.119 --> 00:48:01.039 buried in there and clearly being the inspiration that I 991 00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:03.440 think is what's going to carry token here, and I 992 00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:05.880 think that's what is where the depth is going to 993 00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:08.920 come from. Having that again, like smash like you can't 994 00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:11.480 kind of just hit bonds and stuff happens. But when 995 00:48:11.519 --> 00:48:14.639 you learn the positioning and how your attacks relate to 996 00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:19.280 your place on the field, I think that's where death's 997 00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:21.199 going to come from. It's a lot of fun. I'm 998 00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:22.840 kind of curious, just I know the rest of you 999 00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:26.239 are all more casual fighting game enjoyers. Did you have 1000 00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:29.079 any like, were you wondering anything about token, any questions 1001 00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:29.719 about the game? 1002 00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:33.239 I'm just curious, you know what the temperature check is 1003 00:48:33.239 --> 00:48:37.159 with the thinking community after this baitage, people seem pretty 1004 00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:40.159 excited and everyone seem to be happy and enjoying it, 1005 00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:43.440 thirsty for more. Where there are any major concerns popping. 1006 00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:47.480 Up, I think pretty much everyone like had the same 1007 00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:50.440 arc that I did. Where we get in, we play it, 1008 00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:53.760 and boy, this feels mashy. Auto combos are very good 1009 00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:55.559 and there's no training mode, so it's hard for us 1010 00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:57.960 to learn in depth stuff, which is what we love, 1011 00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:01.239 It's what the Sikhos love. But eventually when we did 1012 00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:04.079 see the people who did just like like Maximilian stream 1013 00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:06.039 for twelve hours straight from the night so he could 1014 00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:08.320 play that entire first session, and he was by the 1015 00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:10.559 end of it. You know, people like him and the 1016 00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:13.119 afore mentioned song Fox and everyone. They were figure out 1017 00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:16.119 the sick oh stuff, and it was really cool to 1018 00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:18.480 see all the different combos that they were pulling off. 1019 00:49:18.480 --> 00:49:20.559 And you know the high low mix up, the left 1020 00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:24.360 right mix up, a sick clip where Songic Fox they 1021 00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:27.159 called in what they were attacking on one side, and 1022 00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:30.079 they called in assist. They positioned so it came in 1023 00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:32.280 on the other side, and then we're attacking with the 1024 00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:34.920 other person switched to the other person and the apoe 1025 00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:36.719 has to just hold that mix. They have to figure 1026 00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:40.519 out what's happening here. That's Marvel versus Capcom right there, 1027 00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:42.519 and so there's still that in there, and so I 1028 00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:45.239 think a lot of us are getting more and more 1029 00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:49.159 excited about this game. I would say, you know, cautiously 1030 00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:52.239 optimistic is maybe even too negative. It's like the difference 1031 00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:57.280 between partly cloudy and mostly sunny. Like, man, we're feeling 1032 00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:00.280 mostly sorry right now, it's like ninety five percent we're 1033 00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:02.360 having that pictick and have a good time today. 1034 00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:04.920 Right, Yes, Yeah, that's kind of my quick question would 1035 00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:07.400 just be like, as someone who's like always wanted to 1036 00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:09.400 get into Marvel, but it has like didn't get on 1037 00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:11.119 the grand level and now I feel like I'm too 1038 00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:13.400 intimidated to figure it out. Do you think this will 1039 00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:15.280 be in a new on ramp for someone like me 1040 00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:18.079 for this variation on what Marvel's become. 1041 00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:20.400 For this style of game. I do think Token's going 1042 00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:22.840 to be a good on ramp. I think the collaboration 1043 00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:26.079 of studios here it being you know, Marvel Games, Art 1044 00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:30.599 system Works, and PlayStation They want to make this successful. 1045 00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:33.559 They want to make this the new big fighting game, 1046 00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:37.079 like we talk about Marvel versus Capcom, and so I 1047 00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:39.639 do think that yeah, you know, like I said, this 1048 00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:42.039 is sort of easy to learn, hard to master that 1049 00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:44.360 is in here. I think that's yeah, it's going to 1050 00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:46.000 be a good on ramp for people like you who 1051 00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:48.960 are just looking to hop in and then eventually learn 1052 00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:50.400 the more in depth stuff. 1053 00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:54.159 How many characters are they talking about, like in total 1054 00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:55.320 are going to be in the game. 1055 00:50:55.880 --> 00:50:58.360 Oh, that's the secret fighting games Jan. They never tell 1056 00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:01.880 you until the game is about to come out and 1057 00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:04.920 you see that final roster. You don't know because they 1058 00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:06.440 want you to buy the game and not thinking about 1059 00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:09.119 the fact that this is a four v four fighting 1060 00:51:09.159 --> 00:51:11.239 game that maybe it was only going to have like 1061 00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:12.920 twenty something characters that launch. 1062 00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:16.199 Which fourth of the roster do you want on your team? 1063 00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:18.719 Yeah, A lot of the teams and a lot of 1064 00:51:18.760 --> 00:51:21.280 the cambos were looking similar over the weekend because we 1065 00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:23.480 only had was it's six characters to choose from. 1066 00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:24.679 So that's gonna happen. 1067 00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:27.880 Yeah, I because I want to play the game of 1068 00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:31.280 like staring at the character select screen and doing the 1069 00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:33.599 mental math of like, Okay, this spot has to go 1070 00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:35.719 to this character, that spot has to go to this character. 1071 00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:38.800 How upset am I going to be until they show 1072 00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:41.360 me Cyclops? And then I'll and then I'll be happy, 1073 00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:42.719 and then I'll all say, fuddy. 1074 00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:46.159 Duddy man Storm is there Day one. I have no 1075 00:51:46.199 --> 00:51:48.159 doubt the Cyclops is going to be there, whether he's 1076 00:51:48.239 --> 00:51:51.400 Launch or whether he's DLC. He'll I guarantee you he'll 1077 00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:53.159 be there. Chan they know what the fans. 1078 00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:55.199 Want, fantastic, they know what I want, they know what 1079 00:51:55.199 --> 00:51:58.119 the jans want. That's right. Uh, Sean, You've also been 1080 00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:00.599 playing a game that I'm also very cute curious about 1081 00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:06.199 and I constantly constantly am misspelling because of how the 1082 00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:12.159 the title is. You've been playing lost souls spelling correct, 1083 00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:18.679 and uh okay, yeah, so many souls. 1084 00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:22.239 There's a lot of souls out there. Yeah, so we're 1085 00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:26.480 just talking about six or seven's right, Speaking of this game, 1086 00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:31.559 it's a regretfully I gottay, it's kind of just okay. 1087 00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:34.280 So this is why I've been following for a very 1088 00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:37.639 long time. As a quick refresher, this is the one 1089 00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:41.239 that was like a one man passion project. A grad 1090 00:52:41.280 --> 00:52:45.760 student put out this really cool looking like tech demo 1091 00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:49.039 show piece thing, got picked up by PlayStation as part 1092 00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:51.920 of their China Hero project, and it kind of went 1093 00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:56.400 into development hell for a decade of roughly because they 1094 00:52:56.440 --> 00:52:58.599 realized they need to build up the studio to actually 1095 00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:01.760 make a video game. Does contrary a popular belief one 1096 00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:05.400 person does not make video games. But yeah, now it's 1097 00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:09.320 finally here, it's out, and it's the fact that it 1098 00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:12.599 did start ten years ago as survey response to someone 1099 00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:16.280 thinking Final Fantasy fifteen looks really cool and boy, Devil 1100 00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:19.760 May Cry and Bayonetta play really fun. Yeah, you can 1101 00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:22.679 tell that it started early and then they kind of 1102 00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:27.440 just got inspired by fifteen seven remaking in particular looks 1103 00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:31.480 just like Midguard in the opening section, the combat is 1104 00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:33.199 very fun, which is what I tracked all of us 1105 00:53:33.239 --> 00:53:35.800 in the first place. It does play very well, does 1106 00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:37.920 feel like if you like that classic kind of character 1107 00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:41.280 action game like I do DMC Bayanetta Boy. It plays 1108 00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:44.199 like that, and it's very fun. They even do some 1109 00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:47.639 cool stuff because there's the stuff you expect, like which 1110 00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:51.320 time dodging, and there's a Devil trigger gauge you know 1111 00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:53.840 from their respective games, but that also do cool stuff 1112 00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:57.000 like when you do a which time dodge, you don't 1113 00:53:57.159 --> 00:54:00.320 immediately like get in a counter attack. Instead, you gain 1114 00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:03.679 a stock, like a little like orb of light circles 1115 00:54:03.719 --> 00:54:06.239 your character, and you can build these stocks a few 1116 00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:08.960 times and then when like yeah, if the enemy is 1117 00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:10.920 attacking you over and over, you can then like wait, 1118 00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:12.840 you can just keep dodging, wait for it to be over, 1119 00:54:13.199 --> 00:54:16.280 and then unleash all these stocks as really quick attacks. 1120 00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:17.320 If you are. 1121 00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:19.679 Familiar with Virgil from Devil May Cry, it just like 1122 00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:22.320 does a quick slash, you can do that and he 1123 00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:23.880 just goes do do doo doo doo, and just like 1124 00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:25.880 quickly attacks the enemy for each of those stocks that 1125 00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:27.920 you have, So they do cool stuff like that of 1126 00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:30.960 a sort of variations of what you know in love 1127 00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:36.760 from character action games. The problem is when it takes 1128 00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:41.039 itself too damn seriously with a story that sucks and 1129 00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:44.639 it's very generic and they spend away so much time 1130 00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:48.840 talking in a game that otherwise is about fast face action. 1131 00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:50.599 I mean that's part of the fun of like Devil 1132 00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:52.519 May Cry and Bayonetta is that they've got all the 1133 00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:55.320 fast face action, but there's so much personality. They super 1134 00:54:55.320 --> 00:54:57.679 don't take themselves seriously. You know, you eat pizza and 1135 00:54:57.679 --> 00:55:00.199 surfing around on enemies and stuff in beyanettas whack use 1136 00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:02.719 all hell like like the tone of this. I like 1137 00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:04.800 character action games, but just like what I've seen of this, 1138 00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:05.960 it's like I don't know that. 1139 00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:09.960 Yeah, one that's dead on Dan because even in Bayonetta 1140 00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:12.039 and Delman Cry they have quite a few cut scenes. 1141 00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:14.360 There's a lot of story happening. Yeah, it's all like, 1142 00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:17.519 you know, Dante being a goober, being like nineties extreme 1143 00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:18.920 in every ones around, like, what the hell is this 1144 00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:21.960 guy doing, Bayonetta being super over the top and stuff. No, 1145 00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:25.239 this is the Empire is suppressing us. We need to 1146 00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:29.000 take down the Empire. Okay, let's plan a mission to 1147 00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:34.159 go like destroy one of their reactors. I'm like, okay, okay, yeah, 1148 00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:35.280 macho reactor and all that. 1149 00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:35.719 I get it. 1150 00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:37.639 Yeah, I was gonna I was literally gonna ask, can 1151 00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:39.559 you tell what game they were like trying to like 1152 00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:42.239 remake in their own style? Was it definitely Final Fantasy? 1153 00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:44.840 I mean this game started as a love layer to fifteen, 1154 00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:48.119 and over time it's like, oh, you too have played 1155 00:55:48.199 --> 00:55:48.960 seven remake? 1156 00:55:49.039 --> 00:55:52.320 I see, right, someone at say tu Final Fantasy? 1157 00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:56.159 Yeah kind of feels like it. Yeah, And it's funny 1158 00:55:56.159 --> 00:55:59.800 because like Final Fantasy also went a much more action oriented, right, 1159 00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:02.880 and at sixteen that like he knew what it wanted 1160 00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:04.880 to be from the get go, and I think he 1161 00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:08.119 landed it a lot better. This game unfortunately does not. 1162 00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:11.199 It's I don't know, if all the story and stuff 1163 00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:13.559 wasn't there, it would be a slightly jink because a 1164 00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:16.159 smart team but still very fun character action game. But yeah, 1165 00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:19.119 I just I can't really recommend it to most people, unfortunately, 1166 00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:19.679 in this state. 1167 00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:23.119 Would you would you send someone who's like aching for 1168 00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:25.599 one of these games to god, what's the gooner game 1169 00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:27.159 from last seller Blade? 1170 00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:28.760 Star Blade? 1171 00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:29.079 Instead? 1172 00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:31.039 I was genuinely trying to think which one is he 1173 00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:35.639 going to talk about yours endless Stellar Blade, Okay, I 1174 00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:38.159 like Stellar Blade a lot more like Stellar Blade yell, 1175 00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:41.679 you know, all the online conversation side. Genuinely very fun 1176 00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:44.239 character action game with a bit of a dark soul's 1177 00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:48.079 edge to it. This one, Yeah, this is I usually 1178 00:56:48.119 --> 00:56:50.119 don't bring up like price when it comes to talking 1179 00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:53.880 about something like this. It feels weird as a full price, 1180 00:56:54.039 --> 00:56:57.920 sixty dollars first party PlayStation published game if this came out, 1181 00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:01.079 even other projects that initial we're in the China Hero 1182 00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:04.400 project came out like thirty dollars. Yeah, and I think 1183 00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:07.280 if if this was a thirty dollars Steam release, people 1184 00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:09.599 would have been much more receptive to it. But yeah, 1185 00:57:09.639 --> 00:57:13.440 it's like a bigger deal kind of thing despite not 1186 00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:17.480 having the marketing for it, which maybe that's reflective as something. Yeah, 1187 00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:20.480 it's just I can't recommend it at full price and 1188 00:57:20.599 --> 00:57:23.760 in the state. Maybe they'll update some stuff, maybe they'll 1189 00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:25.440 let you, you know, get through the cut scenes and 1190 00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:28.679 stuff a little bit quicker. But yeah, it's an unfortunately 1191 00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:31.119 little disappoint for so I'm really looking forward to I. 1192 00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:33.559 Still might want to check this out because I am 1193 00:57:33.639 --> 00:57:36.760 kind of hankering for like that character action game. I 1194 00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:39.920 pulled up the trailer for myself to just take a 1195 00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:43.679 Peaksi's at the gameplay and I'm looking at a weapons 1196 00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:47.239 video and I feel like I wrote this because and 1197 00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:49.880 it's unfortunate that you say it takes itself too seriously, 1198 00:57:50.000 --> 00:57:52.360 because they show off you can use a scythe and 1199 00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:57.639 then under its cutting edge control like, oh, okay, you 1200 00:57:57.679 --> 00:58:01.840 can have fun with this genre. It's yeah, yeah, but 1201 00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:05.239 you I was staring at the main character here, Sean, 1202 00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:08.000 and it was bugging me that I couldn't place why 1203 00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:11.159 he looks familiar until you said Final Fantasy fifteen. Yeah, 1204 00:58:11.320 --> 00:58:14.920 it's just it's super like I glanced at this game, 1205 00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:17.079 it was like PM Fantasy fifteen, right, And then. 1206 00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:19.679 They even have the blue particle effects in there, and 1207 00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:22.880 they even change weapons because it's it's done. That could 1208 00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:24.760 be cool is that you have like a floating particle 1209 00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:27.280 dragon there that was initially showing off the PS four 1210 00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:29.800 particle effects and stuff, and like it turns into all 1211 00:58:29.800 --> 00:58:31.559 the different weapons just like Nactus does. 1212 00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:32.599 And then yeah, it's just. 1213 00:58:33.480 --> 00:58:36.039 I'm a great mighty dragon and I'm gonna have a 1214 00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:37.599 long monologue here. 1215 00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:39.760 I'm like, ah, no, shut up to see at least 1216 00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:46.159 voiced by the Mario I wish came Fantom Blade zero 1217 00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:49.000 game part of the China zero thing. 1218 00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:51.440 I think. 1219 00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:54.920 I think it's its own thing, I believe. Yeah, saw 1220 00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:57.119 the looks all these Chinese action games are coming out 1221 00:58:57.159 --> 00:58:59.400 there are inspired by stuff are pretty cool, you know, 1222 00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:02.360 like I know people liked to Wukong and yeah, Phantom 1223 00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:04.440 Blade zero and stuff like that. They look pretty cool. 1224 00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:06.400 This is unfortunately not one of them. 1225 00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:10.199 Well, speaking about long over drawn monologues that you have 1226 00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:14.880 to sit through, grub Mike and myself sat through, uh 1227 00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:20.719 several monologues as we completed Riven, the sequel. 1228 00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:24.880 The mist Yeah, that guy a bit of a christ complex, 1229 00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:28.119 I believe is what they call that, right, he's a yappers. 1230 00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:30.239 Yeah yeah, he. 1231 00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:32.039 Put us in a casion. He made it talk to 1232 00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:33.679 us a bunch and I had to listen to that 1233 00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:35.639 twice because the first time I did the wrong thing. 1234 00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:39.079 But that's okay. Yeah, we finished Riven, the remake of 1235 00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:42.079 it that came out just last year. The second game 1236 00:59:42.159 --> 00:59:46.599 in the Monday Mornings Missed with Mitch Saga. I was 1237 00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:49.440 so surprised by that game, just how different it feels 1238 00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:53.119 from miss whereas this is almost episodic. Yeah, it's houb Island. 1239 00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:55.519 They're from there. You go to these different ages and 1240 00:59:55.559 --> 00:59:57.920 they each have their own kind of self contained puzzles 1241 00:59:58.360 --> 00:59:59.760 just to get those pages. 1242 00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:00.559 Or just to leave there. 1243 01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:03.400 Then you know, you go back and you kind of 1244 01:00:03.639 --> 01:00:07.920 you know, rich Rush Pete Riven has these five different islands, 1245 01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:09.599 but they're all connected and they're all part of the 1246 01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:11.920 same area. And so much of the game, like the 1247 01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:15.599 first half of the game is just opening up the 1248 01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:18.000 way so that you unlock the entire island and now 1249 01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:20.519 you have this whole place that you can go around, 1250 01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:22.440 and then you realize a lot of stuff that you 1251 01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:25.239 were looking at before. And there were clues or even 1252 01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:30.800 solutions to essentially three big puzzles that are the puzzles 1253 01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:32.800 of the game. There are smaller ones like open a 1254 01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:34.800 gate here or unlock this thing there. 1255 01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:36.719 A lot of those teach you the things you need 1256 01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:38.599 to solve these three big puzzles. 1257 01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:41.880 Right, Like a big component of the game is just, hey, 1258 01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:46.440 these people have their own numbering system and you're gonna 1259 01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:48.280 have to learn how that works so that you can 1260 01:00:48.559 --> 01:00:51.199 figure out some other puzzles in the future. And I 1261 01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:54.280 liked that whole formula for it a lot. It was 1262 01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:56.599 very satisfied to finally get somewhere and be like, oh, 1263 01:00:56.719 --> 01:00:59.679 this is what this stuff meant. Now I kind of 1264 01:00:59.719 --> 01:01:01.760 have understood it. Now I got to get the rest 1265 01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:04.519 of the way there and push through this puzzle. And 1266 01:01:04.519 --> 01:01:07.280 it kind of leads up to this very at first 1267 01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:10.719 seemingly confusing one. Here's five colored orbs and a grid. 1268 01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:12.840 What am I gonna do with this? You think you're 1269 01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:15.760 never gonna get there? Then you just kind of wander around, 1270 01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:18.559 You sey some things out, you read a journal here 1271 01:01:18.559 --> 01:01:22.639 and there, and it all comes together and it's very satisfying. 1272 01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:25.079 Also beautiful game gossip. 1273 01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:28.400 Really yeah yeah, I uh when I this was the 1274 01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:31.360 way for me to play this game, cause I was 1275 01:01:31.360 --> 01:01:35.239 thinking about it and it's like definitely collecting different ideas 1276 01:01:35.239 --> 01:01:38.280 for a puzzle from across the map. You keep it colating, 1277 01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:40.079 all those things in my brain, keep them all straight. 1278 01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:42.079 That would be a hassle for me. The reason I 1279 01:01:42.119 --> 01:01:44.400 like The Witness so much is each puzzle is just 1280 01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:46.519 all right there, right in front of you, and I 1281 01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:48.599 like then they could be as difficult as they want 1282 01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:50.079 to make them. I will figure it out as long 1283 01:01:50.119 --> 01:01:52.480 as I know it's all right here having to navigate 1284 01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:54.679 the world and kind of remember, oh, these bits and pieces, 1285 01:01:54.679 --> 01:01:56.679 So having Mike, who's really good at that kind of 1286 01:01:56.760 --> 01:01:58.880 like bring all those things together, then I was free 1287 01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:00.960 to just like think about the puzzle. And that was 1288 01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:02.519 really fun for me. It was like, oh cool, I 1289 01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:04.639 could just like we have this piece, we have this piece, 1290 01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:06.360 he's going somewhere else, he's gonna get another piece. Let 1291 01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:08.119 me think about this for a minute. And it was 1292 01:02:08.320 --> 01:02:10.719 again really satisfying to kind of work our way through 1293 01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:13.400 this and just throw ideas out and see what worked. 1294 01:02:13.519 --> 01:02:15.079 And when things didn't work. It was kind of fun 1295 01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:16.639 as well because it's like, Okay, now we can come 1296 01:02:16.719 --> 01:02:19.440 up with a new hypothesis about what's happening with this puzzle. 1297 01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:22.159 And we like kind of worked our way through a 1298 01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:24.480 lot of stuff that seemed pretty complicated just by doing 1299 01:02:24.519 --> 01:02:26.599 that over and over again got away through that. 1300 01:02:26.639 --> 01:02:27.719 You know, we got a few tips. 1301 01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:28.639 From Chap, but not a lot. 1302 01:02:28.760 --> 01:02:30.159 Really we were able to work our ways. I mean, 1303 01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:32.719 we're so handsome. Smart is smart? 1304 01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:36.840 Is that apartment? And also just actual really cool sort 1305 01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:39.679 of world building and lord building and fun characters like 1306 01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:42.119 I have already like filled this connection to a Trus. 1307 01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:45.519 I'm like, my God, Atrus is here, all right, Atrius 1308 01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:46.360 for your car? 1309 01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:51.719 Yeah right, I thought that jed For me personally, Riven 1310 01:02:51.800 --> 01:02:56.079 felt too big and too open. Sure, it's like five islands, 1311 01:02:56.119 --> 01:02:59.719 but I think the traversing back and forth was off 1312 01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:02.440 put for me, maybe because I got used to the 1313 01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:05.679 contained nature of like the books and like the episodic nature, 1314 01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:09.079 like you said, Mike, of the original myst uh, and 1315 01:03:09.119 --> 01:03:12.320 I don't mistfelt cozy. There's parts of Riven that kind 1316 01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:14.039 of felt like a little eerie and scary. 1317 01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:17.280 Yeah, there was putting this to it. I kind of 1318 01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:19.039 liked some of the tonal shifts. There are definitely some 1319 01:03:19.119 --> 01:03:21.960 cozier Yeah, you're right, because even the cozier parts of 1320 01:03:21.960 --> 01:03:24.000 the beautiful parts of Riven is a mess up thing. 1321 01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:26.800 But it ties back to the lore of oh this 1322 01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:30.239 this age is dying because because again the bad guy 1323 01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:34.199 messed it up for everybody. So, yeah, things aren't great here, 1324 01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:37.480 and there's it's weird because there are people here. It's 1325 01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:39.239 like every time you actually see a person, it's a 1326 01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:43.719 jump scare, right, because they're mostly hiding from you and 1327 01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:46.440 just let you do your thing. I think it's a 1328 01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:48.079 neat way to do a sequel that what you know, 1329 01:03:48.119 --> 01:03:51.199 this could have very easily been just literally missed too. 1330 01:03:52.119 --> 01:03:54.679 They got ambitious, and it was I'm very glad that 1331 01:03:54.719 --> 01:03:56.280 this game is the way it is, Like that was 1332 01:03:56.320 --> 01:03:58.519 the right move back then, for sure, And even though 1333 01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:00.360 we got the kind of like tone down version that 1334 01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:02.599 has a little bit more quality of life and actually 1335 01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:04.280 tones down some of that ambition, so it's a little 1336 01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:06.280 bit easier to manage, but a lot of the spirit 1337 01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:07.000 is still there. 1338 01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:08.719 Right, It's not like, you know, yeah, so that remake 1339 01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:11.840 they do kind of rework puzzles one because it's free 1340 01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:15.000 roaming now instead of just the static screens, but some 1341 01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:17.440 of it was toning some things down, and again, that 1342 01:04:17.519 --> 01:04:20.280 last puzzle still one of the more ambitious puzzles I 1343 01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:22.079 have seen in one of these kinds of games. So 1344 01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:24.000 it's not like I felt like we were playing some 1345 01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:28.119 you know, easy mode version of Rivening like that. But yeah, 1346 01:04:28.199 --> 01:04:30.880 that I always heard amazing things about that remake, and 1347 01:04:30.920 --> 01:04:34.079 it lived up to those expectations. It was fans. I 1348 01:04:34.119 --> 01:04:35.920 loved it. I'll be thinking about riven for a while. 1349 01:04:37.039 --> 01:04:39.920 Apparently MYS three is much more like Missed one in 1350 01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:42.599 terms of it's a lot of single screen puzzles and 1351 01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:45.079 stuff like that, so Jan there's much of that wandering 1352 01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:48.000 nature coming up in that one. 1353 01:04:48.199 --> 01:04:51.039 This was another instance though, just like when you watch 1354 01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:55.960 like a major film that is like part of the 1355 01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:59.440 film canon. As we were playing through Missed and now Riven, 1356 01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:02.920 I'm seeing like, oh, this has influenced an obscene amount 1357 01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:04.039 of games that I've played. 1358 01:05:04.039 --> 01:05:06.639 Oh yeah, that's why I was like, that's part of 1359 01:05:06.639 --> 01:05:08.159 the rea, is why I wanted to do the series 1360 01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:11.159 and the playthrough. I'm like, boy, missed this very important, 1361 01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:14.079 and it seems like not very many people appreciate that anymore. 1362 01:05:14.199 --> 01:05:15.960 So there's a little bit like I'm gonna sit you 1363 01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:19.679 all down and make you watch a Missed. Yeah, because 1364 01:05:19.880 --> 01:05:23.280 you know the blueprints earlier this year, major component of 1365 01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:26.280 the Game of the Year conversations later in the year probably, 1366 01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:30.760 but like, oh this is you you played Missed? 1367 01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:31.039 Huh? 1368 01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:32.639 You you grew up watching Missed? 1369 01:05:33.079 --> 01:05:36.280 Let me ask Mike. Is Missed and Riven and all those? 1370 01:05:36.519 --> 01:05:39.519 Are they closer to something like a blueprints experience or 1371 01:05:39.559 --> 01:05:41.639 something like a traditional like adventure game. 1372 01:05:42.239 --> 01:05:45.960 I think it's closer to a blueprint basic when I 1373 01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:48.239 think about like at the point like a venture games. 1374 01:05:48.280 --> 01:05:51.079 I like, it's a lot of inventory puzzles. It's kind 1375 01:05:51.079 --> 01:05:54.119 of a lot of talking to people, you know. 1376 01:05:54.280 --> 01:05:56.519 Inferences and deductive reasoning. 1377 01:05:56.599 --> 01:05:59.480 And yeah, even like the way Blueprints does its story 1378 01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:01.639 and that is straight from MISS, where it's a lot 1379 01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:05.239 of stuff from books and and things like that. So yeah, 1380 01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:09.679 you know, especially the MISS which again is relatively kind 1381 01:06:09.679 --> 01:06:11.760 of a bit more straightforward. I think you would like 1382 01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:12.719 Miss that, Actually you would. 1383 01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:15.079 I could see it. I mean, I've always liked logic 1384 01:06:15.159 --> 01:06:17.480 based puzzle games and stuff like that, and like this seems, 1385 01:06:17.519 --> 01:06:19.159 you know, different than the ones I've played before, but 1386 01:06:19.199 --> 01:06:20.880 like I loved that different though. 1387 01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:23.559 Yeah, I think I could have liked that. 1388 01:06:23.599 --> 01:06:24.800 I bet, I bet if I had a computer that 1389 01:06:24.840 --> 01:06:25.920 could have run it back then, I would have been 1390 01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:26.599 obsessed with it. 1391 01:06:26.599 --> 01:06:29.199 It's fine, it was it was just FLI showing anything. 1392 01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:34.079 Ye a Riven had a PS one version, which is 1393 01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:34.480 kind of. 1394 01:06:36.119 --> 01:06:37.719 Thing. Is a lot of the times these games would 1395 01:06:37.719 --> 01:06:39.760 come out that were like these legendary talked about games 1396 01:06:39.840 --> 01:06:41.440 back then, and I would see it come out on 1397 01:06:41.480 --> 01:06:43.360 a console that I have and be like, it's not 1398 01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:44.280 going to be the real thing. 1399 01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:46.960 You know, you would have hated it back then, regardless 1400 01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:48.960 where you played it. The idea of like I need 1401 01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:51.320 to get something on this part island over here, so 1402 01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:53.920 I have to swap out, Oh my god, going to 1403 01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:56.320 a different island. I think that would be at least 1404 01:06:56.320 --> 01:06:57.280 that would drive me crazy. 1405 01:06:57.440 --> 01:06:57.880 Oh wow. 1406 01:06:58.039 --> 01:06:59.800 You know what helps me is that I'm a sick 1407 01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:01.840 of for trams and trains. So the fact that I 1408 01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:03.519 had to go on these trains all the time where 1409 01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:07.800 enter a planetarium every time I wanted. 1410 01:07:07.599 --> 01:07:11.519 To down, I was like, I'm right, they should put 1411 01:07:12.119 --> 01:07:12.639 and Riven. 1412 01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:19.800 Okay, hey, we have like three more games maybe before 1413 01:07:19.840 --> 01:07:22.159 if we play, there better be some kind of SKU 1414 01:07:22.239 --> 01:07:23.360 style puzzle. 1415 01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:28.840 And an expert by then I will. I'm going, yes, 1416 01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:34.039 we're moving you on to the cross Oh yeah, real quick, 1417 01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:36.159 because we still got games to talk about. What is Ken? 1418 01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:39.119 I'm sorry, I'm sorry the name ken twice? 1419 01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:42.760 Oh okay, yeah, I I one of the Sudoku books 1420 01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:48.599 I bought was like, I think is CAGEK Is that 1421 01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:58.239 what it is? It's a different Okay, okay, okay, you 1422 01:07:58.280 --> 01:07:58.679 got a burp. 1423 01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:01.519 There's multiple cases and division on this. I don't like 1424 01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:02.079 this at all. 1425 01:08:02.679 --> 01:08:03.760 Actually this is shooting. 1426 01:08:03.920 --> 01:08:07.280 Yeah, is it like when the dart puzzle got too 1427 01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:08.119 complicated for me? 1428 01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:08.960 In Blueprints, I just. 1429 01:08:11.960 --> 01:08:14.400 Like a tag team. It was like half Sudoku half 1430 01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:15.000 ken Ken. 1431 01:08:16.319 --> 01:08:18.760 Damn. Yeah, it's cold. 1432 01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:22.239 It's like the super Metroid link to the pass randomizer. 1433 01:08:23.439 --> 01:08:29.239 Exactly exactly. Jeff Grubb, you have been exploring space in 1434 01:08:30.199 --> 01:08:33.079 such a way that I am surprised by. Because I 1435 01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:35.680 know that you were high on Star Wars Outlaws last year. 1436 01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:38.039 I think I'm more surprised that you are still checking 1437 01:08:38.039 --> 01:08:40.039 it out on the switch to Yeah. 1438 01:08:40.520 --> 01:08:44.920 So I played about thirteen fourteen hours on PC originally 1439 01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:46.800 and was into it. It just kind of ran out 1440 01:08:46.840 --> 01:08:48.920 of time and I was always looking for an excuse 1441 01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:50.960 to go back. And now the switch to version is out, 1442 01:08:50.960 --> 01:08:53.920 and this is like the new high water benchmark for 1443 01:08:54.039 --> 01:08:56.640 a port from the current gen. Going over to switch 1444 01:08:56.680 --> 01:09:01.640 to it runs kind of immaculately. Well, it is really impressive. 1445 01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:04.560 One of the big things there is it has baked in, 1446 01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:07.000 baked in the wrong board. It has ray tracing as 1447 01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:09.920 a fundamental technology for its lighting system. They can't take 1448 01:09:09.960 --> 01:09:11.439 it out. It just wouldn't work, or if they did, 1449 01:09:11.439 --> 01:09:12.760 it would be a ton more work that they're just 1450 01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:15.439 not going to do so, the Switch too needs to 1451 01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:17.920 run the ray tracing model here. That includes even like 1452 01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:22.159 some global illumination which is decently taxing, even some reflections 1453 01:09:22.399 --> 01:09:24.880 that aren't even on the Xbox Series S version. And 1454 01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:28.159 it's just locked at a really good thirty frames per second, 1455 01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:30.760 way better than this game ran on the Steam Deck 1456 01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:32.840 or the Asis Rock ally when I tried it on there, 1457 01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:35.439 like significantly better. I think that speaks, you know, in 1458 01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:37.520 the fact that it's trading blows with the Xbox Series S. 1459 01:09:37.800 --> 01:09:40.880 Digital Foundery did their coverage of it. They're like our 1460 01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:44.319 DNA to the technology behind the Xbox, the PlayStation five 1461 01:09:44.920 --> 01:09:48.079 and all the handhelds. Just the ray tracing stuff just 1462 01:09:48.119 --> 01:09:50.000 isn't very good there. So the Switch, the fact that 1463 01:09:50.039 --> 01:09:53.039 they have the Nvidia technology might speak to the fact 1464 01:09:53.039 --> 01:09:54.439 that this system is going to be able to keep 1465 01:09:54.520 --> 01:09:57.920 up with wherever ray tracing is at on consoles throughout 1466 01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:00.720 the generation. So it's a really good sign for a 1467 01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:03.199 lot of games like this one that they're going to 1468 01:10:03.279 --> 01:10:05.359 run real well on Switch as long as the developer 1469 01:10:05.399 --> 01:10:07.880 puts in a little extra love, and that is in 1470 01:10:07.920 --> 01:10:12.159 this case, like the level of detail, so like how 1471 01:10:12.199 --> 01:10:14.960 many polygons are in the geometry, they turned that way 1472 01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:16.800 down in a lot of instances, so instead of a 1473 01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:19.880 perfectly round bar top, you could see that there's like 1474 01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:22.239 a little some sharp edges here and there. You don't 1475 01:10:22.239 --> 01:10:24.279 really notice it when you're playing the game, but when 1476 01:10:24.319 --> 01:10:26.479 you look for it, you see it. And apparently that 1477 01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:29.079 was enough to get this game in a really good place, 1478 01:10:29.640 --> 01:10:31.680 and I was able to kind of just pick it 1479 01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:34.399 up and start playing it and it just works really well. 1480 01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:37.199 I'm able to play through this game and it's kind 1481 01:10:37.199 --> 01:10:38.800 of the way I want to play it anyhow, handheld, 1482 01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:41.119 kind of dipping in and out, trying out, trying submissions 1483 01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:43.560 here or there. And I played like another i don't know, 1484 01:10:43.640 --> 01:10:45.880 five hours over the weekend when I had some time, 1485 01:10:46.479 --> 01:10:49.399 and really finding this to be a very good way 1486 01:10:49.439 --> 01:10:51.000 to play that game for a game that I think 1487 01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:53.800 is pretty decent, like a pretty good game overall. 1488 01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:54.479 Yeah. 1489 01:10:54.520 --> 01:10:56.600 I was listening to the DF boys talking about on 1490 01:10:56.920 --> 01:10:59.600 def Direct Weekly yesterday and I was surprised by how 1491 01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:00.880 glowing they were about it. 1492 01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:01.640 They were kind of. 1493 01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:04.840 Just like, this is everything we always want to see 1494 01:11:04.880 --> 01:11:07.720 in a port, especially like a port down of just 1495 01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:11.640 make smart cuts and you know, like ray tracing it's 1496 01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:14.399 kind of a myth that ray tracing is super expensive 1497 01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:16.720 as long as you rein it in like you said, 1498 01:11:16.720 --> 01:11:19.600 with global illumination, which is just like a room lighting. 1499 01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:22.000 It's sort of the simple way saying that if people 1500 01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:24.800 don't know like doing the simpler stuff, you know, yeah, 1501 01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:26.920 it works well on the hardware. Like you said, then 1502 01:11:27.039 --> 01:11:29.680 video hardware is doing a lot of like work over 1503 01:11:30.039 --> 01:11:32.359 the modern consoles, which is very funny. You see, it's 1504 01:11:32.359 --> 01:11:35.800 just better at some stuff than what AMD was doing. 1505 01:11:36.279 --> 01:11:38.399 And I kind of want to pick this up now 1506 01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:40.680 check it out because it sounds very impressive. 1507 01:11:40.920 --> 01:11:43.039 Yeah, and it's not like, you know, we got Doom 1508 01:11:43.399 --> 01:11:46.079 and Witcher three and a bunch of these games on 1509 01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:48.560 the Switch one, and it's not like those ports. Those 1510 01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:50.680 ports were like you look at it, like, oh, you 1511 01:11:50.720 --> 01:11:54.239 could see in every instance where they went and turned 1512 01:11:54.279 --> 01:11:56.279 down everything to get this game to run on the 1513 01:11:56.319 --> 01:11:58.119 Switch R. This is much more like they were able 1514 01:11:58.119 --> 01:11:59.960 to be able to pick and choose and it's like, yeah, 1515 01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:02.680 some things are turned down and in some other ways 1516 01:12:03.039 --> 01:12:05.159 it's running just the way it does on a lot 1517 01:12:05.159 --> 01:12:07.640 of other platforms, or at least in terms of image quality, 1518 01:12:07.720 --> 01:12:11.760 it is reproducing those results and so yeah, just a 1519 01:12:11.880 --> 01:12:14.039 very encouraging game, like a feel good game, like you'd 1520 01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:17.119 be soft giving this game another chance, and it like 1521 01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:19.319 really hitting with this audience that might be willing to 1522 01:12:19.520 --> 01:12:22.560 pick this up because it's a novelty to have something 1523 01:12:22.600 --> 01:12:24.640 like this running on the switch to at this point. 1524 01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:27.039 So yeah, I'm just really really happy to see that 1525 01:12:27.079 --> 01:12:29.560 this game delivered in a way that we knew was 1526 01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:33.960 probably possible, but I wasn't sure developers would actually go 1527 01:12:34.079 --> 01:12:35.720 the I don't even know if it's an extra mile, 1528 01:12:35.800 --> 01:12:37.960 but the extra work that would have taken to get 1529 01:12:37.960 --> 01:12:41.159 it into this shape, I wasn't sure if that would happen. 1530 01:12:41.319 --> 01:12:43.479 This is a sign that at least developers have charted 1531 01:12:43.520 --> 01:12:46.319 that path, they know how to do it. 1532 01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:48.760 It's just encouraging too as somebody who's was like maybe 1533 01:12:48.760 --> 01:12:50.960 word recently like whoa how are third party game is 1534 01:12:50.960 --> 01:12:52.680 going to look on switch too? Is we're hearing things 1535 01:12:52.720 --> 01:12:55.520 about stuff like elden Ring and others where it's like, wow, 1536 01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:56.640 what's going on here? 1537 01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:58.760 No, like there can be good ports. 1538 01:12:59.119 --> 01:13:01.119 It can't be done. Yeah, maybe it takes you know, 1539 01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:03.479 certain smart decisions, smart technologies. 1540 01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:06.600 I don't know, but yeah, it's also games that are 1541 01:13:07.119 --> 01:13:10.640 GPU dependent are going to run better. Because the switch 1542 01:13:10.680 --> 01:13:13.079 is still just a handheld, the CPU can only be 1543 01:13:13.199 --> 01:13:16.880 so powerful. But because of what Nvidia did tech wise, 1544 01:13:17.159 --> 01:13:19.239 there's a lot of good GPU stuff in there. So 1545 01:13:19.239 --> 01:13:21.760 that's how you get this game. Yeah, yeah, that's how 1546 01:13:21.800 --> 01:13:23.720 you get this game on. Like Doom, which I switch 1547 01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:26.399 one was kind of just like a blurry mess at times, 1548 01:13:26.520 --> 01:13:28.760 and then which are three, I just looks like, you know, 1549 01:13:28.880 --> 01:13:32.520 more of a PS three like downscaled version of that game, 1550 01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:34.279 which is what you expect. It just looks like a 1551 01:13:34.279 --> 01:13:37.960 different game. This is like unmistakably Star Wars Outlaws. It's 1552 01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:40.479 just you know, it's running thirty fps, but also it's 1553 01:13:40.479 --> 01:13:43.720 got the upscaling tech to do fourteen forty p doct apparently, 1554 01:13:43.800 --> 01:13:46.199 so like it looks like Star Wars Outlaws. They just 1555 01:13:46.239 --> 01:13:47.920 made the smart cuts. That's really cool. 1556 01:13:48.319 --> 01:13:52.239 Yep, that's really good to hear. Sean, you have been 1557 01:13:52.319 --> 01:13:55.840 donning a gee, dude, Ninja's word, GI's is what do 1558 01:13:55.880 --> 01:13:58.159 they wear? What is it called rob It's it's a 1559 01:13:58.239 --> 01:14:00.560 gee right and stuff? 1560 01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:00.800 You know. 1561 01:14:03.039 --> 01:14:06.079 Yeah, I'm sure there's a name that we don't non pants. 1562 01:14:05.920 --> 01:14:11.279 Zoomiest there you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Jean shorts. 1563 01:14:12.640 --> 01:14:15.760 George and George would be interesting crash bandicoot. 1564 01:14:15.880 --> 01:14:18.640 I don't think there'd be as enough mobility though. But 1565 01:14:18.680 --> 01:14:21.039 you have been playing Shanoby Art a Vengeance. We've talked 1566 01:14:21.399 --> 01:14:23.560 a bit about this game over the last couple of weeks. 1567 01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:27.079 I also want to say, I think Joe yea Musashi, right, 1568 01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:31.039 that's his name. I think he's the coolest looking ninja 1569 01:14:31.119 --> 01:14:31.760 in a video game. 1570 01:14:32.880 --> 01:14:35.560 The way he runs and everything, and every one of 1571 01:14:35.600 --> 01:14:38.560 those attacks, the downward kick and then the spin and like, fuck, 1572 01:14:38.600 --> 01:14:39.159 it looks good. 1573 01:14:39.239 --> 01:14:41.199 I think like the combo of like the white and 1574 01:14:41.279 --> 01:14:43.000 the head just looks so striking. 1575 01:14:43.520 --> 01:14:46.239 You get the other ones, blue, the yellow, the like. 1576 01:14:46.359 --> 01:14:48.079 There's some good alternate ones too. 1577 01:14:49.159 --> 01:14:50.760 But Sean, what what what? What do you got to 1578 01:14:50.800 --> 01:14:51.239 say about it? 1579 01:14:51.279 --> 01:14:54.279 But Shnoby Oh I want to say about Shoby Jan 1580 01:14:54.439 --> 01:14:58.880 is that Shanoby are a Vengeance. I think my current 1581 01:14:58.920 --> 01:14:59.439 game of the year. 1582 01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:03.079 Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, I really got to go play 1583 01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:03.560 the rest. 1584 01:15:03.359 --> 01:15:04.159 Of this game. Nice. 1585 01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:08.279 Everything that I was looking for in Lost Soul Side 1586 01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:12.720 I am finding in Shinobi, which is awesome because I've 1587 01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:15.640 always seen character action games as the natural extension of 1588 01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:18.680 like two D, beat them ups, Hack and Slash games 1589 01:15:18.680 --> 01:15:21.239 that kind of thing, you know, like the Batman Arkham 1590 01:15:21.279 --> 01:15:23.000 games are kind of like, you know, beat them ups, 1591 01:15:23.039 --> 01:15:25.319 brown to three D and then del mccries sort of 1592 01:15:25.319 --> 01:15:29.880 like Hack and Slash run three D. This Lizard Cube 1593 01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:32.680 took everything that we've learned about action games for the 1594 01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:36.159 past like twenty five years and poured it back into 1595 01:15:36.199 --> 01:15:39.119 a two D game. Man, And that's like the game 1596 01:15:39.159 --> 01:15:39.720 clicked with me. 1597 01:15:39.760 --> 01:15:39.920 Why. 1598 01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:42.640 I realized that when it wasn't just oh yes, Lizard 1599 01:15:42.640 --> 01:15:45.520 cubesa looks gorgeous and the soundtrack is incredible and everything 1600 01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:48.039 like that, But when I really started getting into the 1601 01:15:48.079 --> 01:15:50.680 way the combat works, and I realized how much you 1602 01:15:50.720 --> 01:15:54.960 can juggle enemies, how much you can string together moves. 1603 01:15:55.279 --> 01:15:57.720 I am trying my best to stay in the air 1604 01:15:57.800 --> 01:16:00.880 at all times, and it works. I'm like, this is 1605 01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:03.800 just a character action game, bossy and stuff. 1606 01:16:03.800 --> 01:16:05.800 You can fucking juggle them and just keep them up 1607 01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:09.079 there and just it's not button mashing. I feel like, 1608 01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:11.600 you know, it's easy to just like something about the 1609 01:16:11.600 --> 01:16:14.039 controls and the abilities and everything. It's kind of easy 1610 01:16:14.079 --> 01:16:16.399 to keep straight in your head. You know, Yes, I 1611 01:16:16.439 --> 01:16:18.840 think it's you know, Sean, what do you say? It's 1612 01:16:18.960 --> 01:16:22.680 probably the best at like that character action combat feel 1613 01:16:22.800 --> 01:16:25.039 in a two D game, Like it's the best I've 1614 01:16:25.039 --> 01:16:26.840 ever seen. I think it's like a I think like 1615 01:16:26.880 --> 01:16:28.760 you know, like Prince of Persian New or Lost Ground 1616 01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:31.720 was great. That was also better than that, Like this is, uh, 1617 01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:32.760 this is the best I've seen. 1618 01:16:32.840 --> 01:16:36.880 This is doing the thing where in any character action 1619 01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:41.399 game or something similar, I don't buy moves anymore. I've 1620 01:16:41.439 --> 01:16:43.920 never done that a delam Cry or Bayonetta unless they're 1621 01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:46.520 like missing something obvious. This is for a first time 1622 01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:50.079 since like Beautiful Joe, where I buy moves constantly and 1623 01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:52.119 I want to save up my money for new moves 1624 01:16:52.199 --> 01:16:55.760 because they do new things and they work so well 1625 01:16:55.800 --> 01:16:58.600 off of the hell system and then the shield that 1626 01:16:58.640 --> 01:17:01.600 can go over that, and then the stagger gauge, and 1627 01:17:01.680 --> 01:17:04.359 you want to balance out what moves you're using to 1628 01:17:04.359 --> 01:17:06.760 get the respective gauge up or down that you want, 1629 01:17:07.119 --> 01:17:09.840 so then you can do the execution, which is just 1630 01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:13.359 metal Gear Rising Slash Dal twenty sixteen where oh god, 1631 01:17:13.359 --> 01:17:15.600 I'm law on health. I need to get this dude 1632 01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:18.520 into execution motz I turn them into a pinata where 1633 01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:20.760 health pours out why and cut his head off. It's 1634 01:17:20.800 --> 01:17:22.319 so freaking sick. 1635 01:17:22.560 --> 01:17:24.560 Even with like equipping the ninpo and stuff where it's like, 1636 01:17:24.560 --> 01:17:26.359 all right, I need something for shield stuff. Someone to 1637 01:17:26.359 --> 01:17:28.279 put this one on here. So it's like when those 1638 01:17:28.319 --> 01:17:30.239 health back things pop up, its all right, I'm gonna 1639 01:17:30.239 --> 01:17:32.000 pop up, and then the down wide thing that'll take 1640 01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:33.840 out the shield and this nipple will hurt the bad 1641 01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:36.520 guy's shield and it's just god damn it. That game 1642 01:17:36.600 --> 01:17:36.800 is good. 1643 01:17:36.880 --> 01:17:40.199 Yeah, and they do smart stuff too, like light attacks 1644 01:17:40.319 --> 01:17:45.680 oftentimes don't matter in two D hacking slash games normally 1645 01:17:45.720 --> 01:17:47.880 just want dour does the most damage because an memel 1646 01:17:47.960 --> 01:17:50.880 dying one or two hits anyways. But very smartly, they 1647 01:17:50.920 --> 01:17:54.880 have the combo anulets where the higher hits that you 1648 01:17:54.920 --> 01:17:57.520 have a combo, the more things you can do because 1649 01:17:57.520 --> 01:18:00.000 after you pass a certain threshold and keep it going out, 1650 01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:02.600 like you know, fifteen hits, twenty five hits where our case, 1651 01:18:02.640 --> 01:18:06.079 maybe you'll do more damage. Enemies will drop more health like, 1652 01:18:06.680 --> 01:18:09.760 so you actually are incentivized to do long combos on 1653 01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:12.840 an enemy rather than just taking them out and moving 1654 01:18:12.840 --> 01:18:15.680 out as quickly as possible. And that combined with the 1655 01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:18.520 fact that the platforming is fun. The challenges that are 1656 01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:20.920 hitting in the levels are all really fun. You do 1657 01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:23.199 the rift to challenges. I did my first one the 1658 01:18:23.239 --> 01:18:25.760 other night because I've been missing them apparently, and that 1659 01:18:25.880 --> 01:18:26.640 was a blast to do. 1660 01:18:26.880 --> 01:18:28.600 Like really some of those are. 1661 01:18:28.560 --> 01:18:31.720 Hard, they're good. I like the challenges are a combination 1662 01:18:31.800 --> 01:18:34.199 of combat challenges and platforming challenges too. 1663 01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:35.840 You don't know which one you're gonna get till you 1664 01:18:35.880 --> 01:18:36.239 get there. 1665 01:18:36.640 --> 01:18:38.520 Yeah, And it's just the style, Like when you get 1666 01:18:38.560 --> 01:18:40.359 that final kill on a boss, when you get the 1667 01:18:40.359 --> 01:18:42.880 execution on it and it does the big screen, it's 1668 01:18:42.920 --> 01:18:45.720 just like cheering when I beat these bosses. You know, 1669 01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:46.920 it's blast. 1670 01:18:47.119 --> 01:18:50.359 It has a style too, like you know, there's there's 1671 01:18:50.359 --> 01:18:52.239 some talking in this game, not too much and never 1672 01:18:52.399 --> 01:18:55.039 overdoes it. And I always love that there's a little 1673 01:18:55.039 --> 01:18:57.560 bit of personality there where like someone will like have 1674 01:18:57.680 --> 01:19:00.520 this like speech that they give Joe and because he's Joe, 1675 01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:03.319 maussa like and they're like, yes, that's right, Joe, I 1676 01:19:03.399 --> 01:19:03.760 bring up. 1677 01:19:05.600 --> 01:19:11.960 They have fun with it. Yeah. 1678 01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:15.479 I'm absolutely loving this game. It's every everything that I 1679 01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:18.279 look for in character action games and fighting games that 1680 01:19:18.479 --> 01:19:22.880 just like very fluid motion and like awesome presentation with 1681 01:19:22.960 --> 01:19:26.479 great soundtrack and the combat feeling incredible and really empowering. 1682 01:19:26.520 --> 01:19:26.680 You. 1683 01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:29.239 Yeah, I haven't finished the game yet, but I think 1684 01:19:29.279 --> 01:19:31.079 I'm close to the end and I'm just having a blast. 1685 01:19:31.199 --> 01:19:33.039 Sean, did you check out rage Bound at all? 1686 01:19:33.520 --> 01:19:35.399 I did, And I also really like Ninja Guy and 1687 01:19:35.479 --> 01:19:38.840 rage Bound, and I think they are games that can coexist. 1688 01:19:38.960 --> 01:19:43.239 They are both excellent. Rage Bound is definitely more platforming 1689 01:19:43.319 --> 01:19:46.119 oriented and this one was more combat focused, and I 1690 01:19:46.159 --> 01:19:48.760 think that's great because it sets them part even further, 1691 01:19:48.880 --> 01:19:50.840 especially since Ninja Guy and has a different art style 1692 01:19:50.840 --> 01:19:53.399 with the pixelar in earthing and this has the gorgeous 1693 01:19:53.399 --> 01:19:55.640 hand drawn r and there things like that. They feel 1694 01:19:55.680 --> 01:19:59.520 like different games and they're both awesome. Yeah, I liked 1695 01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:03.359 I had more gripes with rage Bound, like they definitely 1696 01:20:03.359 --> 01:20:06.039 brought in more souls elements. I think that's like what 1697 01:20:06.079 --> 01:20:10.279 their last game did, right, because they did blasphemous I believe, Yeah, yeah, 1698 01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:12.800 and which was you know, I always heard people describe 1699 01:20:12.840 --> 01:20:15.319 that as like dark souls in two D, and some 1700 01:20:15.399 --> 01:20:18.279 of that is in Rage Bound, like the bosses take 1701 01:20:18.319 --> 01:20:21.279 a while to get through and stuff like that, and 1702 01:20:21.439 --> 01:20:22.880 that was starting to turn me off, but I got 1703 01:20:22.880 --> 01:20:25.079 through it and I was like, you know, for the 1704 01:20:25.119 --> 01:20:27.399 most part, yeah, I really really enjoyed that. But this 1705 01:20:27.520 --> 01:20:31.840 is just I have basically nothing negative to say about Shanoby. 1706 01:20:31.960 --> 01:20:33.520 It's just been nothing but fun. 1707 01:20:33.600 --> 01:20:34.079 That's sick. 1708 01:20:34.239 --> 01:20:36.399 Okay, I want to see if you are hundred percent, 1709 01:20:36.479 --> 01:20:38.119 because like I was loving it so much. I was like, 1710 01:20:38.119 --> 01:20:39.800 I'm definitely going one hundred percent of this thing, and 1711 01:20:39.840 --> 01:20:42.199 I can go to like ninety five or so. But 1712 01:20:42.239 --> 01:20:44.880 like there were a couple, like the platforming riffed ones 1713 01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:48.039 where it's like, Okay, if I tried this thirty times, 1714 01:20:48.079 --> 01:20:49.560 I bet I could do it, but you know, we 1715 01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:51.479 got to move on to other stuff. But I'm curious 1716 01:20:51.479 --> 01:20:53.560 to be doing one hundred You can tell that. 1717 01:20:53.560 --> 01:20:55.720 That's why I'm leaning towards Dan because I looked at 1718 01:20:55.760 --> 01:20:58.399 my percentages through the levels, and it goes up from like, yeah, 1719 01:20:58.439 --> 01:21:00.800 in ten percent, fifteen to twenty Yeah, eventually I am 1720 01:21:00.840 --> 01:21:02.920 starting like one hundred percent levels. I'm like, oh yeah, 1721 01:21:03.079 --> 01:21:04.920 I'm really really falling into this one. 1722 01:21:05.039 --> 01:21:06.520 When I would go back a lot too, like you 1723 01:21:06.520 --> 01:21:08.039 get some ability that lets you go up and then 1724 01:21:08.079 --> 01:21:09.600 like gusts and stuff, it's like, well, okay, I remember 1725 01:21:09.600 --> 01:21:11.199 seeing those back then I'll go back and get a 1726 01:21:11.199 --> 01:21:12.760 couple of those metals or whatever. 1727 01:21:12.920 --> 01:21:15.199 It's not quite Metroidvania because it is a level base, 1728 01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:18.359 but you do get abilities that allow you to tackle 1729 01:21:18.399 --> 01:21:19.880 the earlier levels in different ways. 1730 01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:21.640 You know it's not a Metroidvania and that it's not 1731 01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:23.880 this one giant map. But it made me think of 1732 01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:27.720 like Order of Ecclesia, remember that, because it's like it 1733 01:21:27.760 --> 01:21:30.039 would you'd pick from the overworld map like in this 1734 01:21:30.039 --> 01:21:31.640 where it's like I'm going to go to this area 1735 01:21:31.680 --> 01:21:34.119 and there are it's not straight linear like a lot 1736 01:21:34.119 --> 01:21:36.560 of these levels are linear. And then it gets to 1737 01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:39.399 a point where it's more Metroidvania, a little more open. 1738 01:21:39.640 --> 01:21:41.840 But yeah, it made me think of Order Ecclesia that way. 1739 01:21:42.079 --> 01:21:45.399 Sure, folks, how do you feel about us taking quick 1740 01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:48.239 bricky break and we'll get to the big game of 1741 01:21:48.920 --> 01:21:51.680 the week last two weeks really and then that's the 1742 01:21:51.720 --> 01:21:57.800 news as well. Oh thank god, Michael at it all right, 1743 01:21:58.279 --> 01:21:59.359 we'll see you on the other side. 1744 01:21:59.640 --> 01:22:04.319 Yes, yes, jam my computer sick. I've decided it's time 1745 01:22:04.319 --> 01:22:06.239 to start building a new one. I just don't know 1746 01:22:06.279 --> 01:22:07.000 where to start. 1747 01:22:07.319 --> 01:22:10.199 Grub If your computer is sicky pooh. 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Uh by, okay until you hear 1792 01:24:41.960 --> 01:24:45.359 the news music someone. Well we'll provide you a timestamp. 1793 01:24:44.840 --> 01:24:47.680 Perhaps, but gain get figured out. 1794 01:24:48.199 --> 01:24:51.359 Thank you, Sean, Thank you, Sean. Hey, I really like 1795 01:24:51.439 --> 01:24:53.399 this game. What the fuck is up with this map? 1796 01:24:54.239 --> 01:24:55.000 What's all? Okay? 1797 01:24:55.159 --> 01:24:57.239 Now now I'm curious. Did he play the first one? 1798 01:24:57.520 --> 01:24:57.720 No? 1799 01:24:58.479 --> 01:25:02.079 Okay, because I think you are describing what my issue 1800 01:25:02.119 --> 01:25:04.239 was with the first one initially, Like what the fuck? 1801 01:25:04.239 --> 01:25:06.399 I'm just going around the dark here and I gotta, 1802 01:25:06.479 --> 01:25:08.039 you know, not find a map for like, you know, 1803 01:25:08.159 --> 01:25:10.119 until the sixth time I'm in this area. Is that 1804 01:25:10.159 --> 01:25:10.960 what you're talking about. 1805 01:25:11.039 --> 01:25:13.600 I'm talking about how shitty the map looks, because I 1806 01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:14.720 could draw a better map. 1807 01:25:14.840 --> 01:25:18.000 I think I might be. It's also not a super 1808 01:25:18.119 --> 01:25:21.479 useful map, but also like a map for quite a while. 1809 01:25:21.680 --> 01:25:25.439 Yes, yeah, that you have a quill in the compass 1810 01:25:25.479 --> 01:25:28.920 and all that, right, you get to them eventually. 1811 01:25:28.560 --> 01:25:29.840 Yeah, I get to them eventually. 1812 01:25:29.840 --> 01:25:32.520 I'm just and then you have to have the compass 1813 01:25:32.520 --> 01:25:33.640 equipped and stuff like that. 1814 01:25:33.800 --> 01:25:35.800 You know, I have not turned the compass off once. 1815 01:25:35.880 --> 01:25:36.439 That would drive me. 1816 01:25:37.439 --> 01:25:43.359 And of course it takes a whole spot Compass or compass, Compass, Compass. 1817 01:25:46.479 --> 01:25:50.399 No, you don't say it first, Compass. 1818 01:25:51.880 --> 01:25:53.079 I get what happened. 1819 01:25:54.359 --> 01:25:58.359 Past again, this is not me. I'm just I'm compass. 1820 01:25:58.560 --> 01:25:59.720 I guess I do say compass. 1821 01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:02.920 It's compass. Yeah, it does sound like compass. 1822 01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:03.720 It does. 1823 01:26:03.800 --> 01:26:05.800 I wish it didn't, but it does. It just does. 1824 01:26:06.119 --> 01:26:10.319 It's wan fine. We just came back from break. I 1825 01:26:10.319 --> 01:26:13.800 don't have to thank you. Thank you, though, Dan, Hey. 1826 01:26:13.920 --> 01:26:17.760 I think this game freaking rules. And I kind of 1827 01:26:17.760 --> 01:26:20.600 forgot how much I like Hollow Night and I see 1828 01:26:20.600 --> 01:26:22.560 some people and like there that watching player things like 1829 01:26:22.600 --> 01:26:26.800 I don't get it. And boy, Hollow Night and solk 1830 01:26:26.800 --> 01:26:29.000 Song especially, they just get so many of the most 1831 01:26:29.039 --> 01:26:33.119 basic fundamentals. So right, like you jump and wow, that's 1832 01:26:33.119 --> 01:26:35.319 a really good feeling jump. And you know, we're just 1833 01:26:35.319 --> 01:26:37.439 talking about Shinobi, and it's interesting that game is a 1834 01:26:37.439 --> 01:26:41.159 game with this really intricate combo system and like juggling 1835 01:26:41.399 --> 01:26:45.199 and here the combat is mostly just this one really. 1836 01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:48.319 Fast attack, but boy, is it the best feeling attack 1837 01:26:48.399 --> 01:26:49.199 button ever. 1838 01:26:49.239 --> 01:26:51.399 It just comes out so fast, like huh, And a 1839 01:26:51.439 --> 01:26:53.359 lot of fights are just where are the spots where 1840 01:26:53.359 --> 01:26:54.880 you can maybe get two or three of those hits 1841 01:26:54.880 --> 01:26:56.920 in real quick and then you get out of there, 1842 01:26:56.960 --> 01:26:59.319 and there is something so incredibly satisfying about it. 1843 01:26:59.239 --> 01:27:01.319 Even just the you had the feedback. I know, there's 1844 01:27:01.319 --> 01:27:03.000 like an emblem you can put on or whatever request 1845 01:27:03.079 --> 01:27:04.640 that like makes it so you don't get knocked back 1846 01:27:04.640 --> 01:27:07.399 at all. To knock I do that on, it feels 1847 01:27:07.399 --> 01:27:09.760 like you're really hitting something each time, Like there's something 1848 01:27:09.800 --> 01:27:12.479 about that hit that feels better than maybe any Melee 1849 01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:13.359 two D thing I've. 1850 01:27:13.199 --> 01:27:14.479 Ever felt, you know, right exactly. 1851 01:27:14.560 --> 01:27:16.720 It definitely was like a learning thing of like, uh oh, 1852 01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:18.760 the knockback will happen even if I'm getting bored and 1853 01:27:18.800 --> 01:27:20.640 I'm swinging when I'm doing a jump and I kind 1854 01:27:20.640 --> 01:27:22.359 of barely hit this wall over here, and now I 1855 01:27:22.359 --> 01:27:24.680 fell down a goddamn pit because I had to like 1856 01:27:24.960 --> 01:27:27.359 visually stem myself while I'm playing a video game because 1857 01:27:27.359 --> 01:27:30.840 I'm a fucking idiot. But I eventually am like really 1858 01:27:30.880 --> 01:27:34.239 getting on. Yeah, I'm really getting on this game's wavelength. 1859 01:27:34.439 --> 01:27:36.840 It rules, it rules. I can't stop playing it. I 1860 01:27:36.840 --> 01:27:38.479 mean it super won me over. 1861 01:27:39.199 --> 01:27:42.800 I love the fact that there's just as much chance 1862 01:27:42.840 --> 01:27:45.119 that once I beat a boss, I'm gonna find another 1863 01:27:45.199 --> 01:27:47.279 boss before I find another goddamn bench. 1864 01:27:47.560 --> 01:27:48.479 Sometimes that's like. 1865 01:27:48.399 --> 01:27:50.880 Really funny to me. Like this game, man, there really 1866 01:27:50.880 --> 01:27:53.119 are forty bosses in this game. You could just tell, 1867 01:27:53.159 --> 01:27:54.840 because there's one every thirty feet. 1868 01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:58.680 And there are real good, intentional fuck you moments in 1869 01:27:58.720 --> 01:28:00.960 this game that I can't help but laugh at because 1870 01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:03.159 it's like, we know what we're getting into with this game, 1871 01:28:03.199 --> 01:28:05.000 and like it'll do a couple of things where it's like, oh, 1872 01:28:05.039 --> 01:28:07.239 fuck you guys, like but like in a good way. 1873 01:28:07.439 --> 01:28:10.720 It's interesting because there's almost this a disconnect of they 1874 01:28:10.840 --> 01:28:13.000 clearly made this game for people who played Hollow Night 1875 01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:15.159 because it is a bit more difficult in a lot 1876 01:28:15.159 --> 01:28:16.840 of ways, and they do have some of those fuck 1877 01:28:16.920 --> 01:28:19.880 you moments, right, But there's a lot of people playing 1878 01:28:19.880 --> 01:28:21.920 this who have not played Hollow Night one because it's 1879 01:28:21.960 --> 01:28:26.560 just such a kind of zeitgeist thing at the moment, right. So, 1880 01:28:27.079 --> 01:28:28.960 but I think one of the smart things they did 1881 01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:31.520 they're compared to one. I know, All Night one opened 1882 01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:35.079 up very quickly. It felt like this massive game almost 1883 01:28:35.079 --> 01:28:37.359 immediately with all these branching paths, and you would get 1884 01:28:37.359 --> 01:28:40.319 lost here even though you still have like the stuff 1885 01:28:40.359 --> 01:28:41.760 with well you you're not gonna get the map for 1886 01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:43.159 a little bit. Once you get it, it's not going 1887 01:28:43.239 --> 01:28:46.600 to be super useful right away. They like the first 1888 01:28:46.880 --> 01:28:50.640 five hours of the game relatively linear ish, right you're 1889 01:28:50.720 --> 01:28:53.920 kind of just mostly going to the right, and then 1890 01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:56.319 you're going up. I like ten hours in now, so 1891 01:28:56.359 --> 01:28:58.439 I'm at the point where it has opened up massively 1892 01:28:58.479 --> 01:29:00.920 and suddenly there are different paths I can go to 1893 01:29:01.399 --> 01:29:03.239 in a bunch of extra areas I haven't been to, 1894 01:29:03.319 --> 01:29:05.279 in areas I can go back to an unlock new things. 1895 01:29:05.279 --> 01:29:07.600 So you do get there. Then that's a part of 1896 01:29:07.600 --> 01:29:09.279 all and I think a lot of people did eventually love. 1897 01:29:09.359 --> 01:29:10.760 I know a lot of people fall off because it 1898 01:29:10.880 --> 01:29:12.880 is also overwhelming right away. 1899 01:29:13.199 --> 01:29:15.039 I'm doing shit now where it's like I'm probably like 1900 01:29:15.079 --> 01:29:17.079 fifteen hours in and it's like I will get to 1901 01:29:17.119 --> 01:29:19.479 an area and I will beat my head against this 1902 01:29:19.600 --> 01:29:21.039 trying to get to the end of it for just 1903 01:29:21.199 --> 01:29:24.039 hours only to realize like, oh fuck, this is like 1904 01:29:24.079 --> 01:29:26.319 there is like kind of an intended path through these 1905 01:29:26.359 --> 01:29:29.399 areas and boss order and stuff. It's not strict, but 1906 01:29:29.439 --> 01:29:32.079 it's there, and I'll just be like, oh fuck, I 1907 01:29:32.159 --> 01:29:34.039 just I could have made life so much easier for 1908 01:29:34.079 --> 01:29:35.439 me if I had just gone over here. 1909 01:29:35.640 --> 01:29:37.600 What was making it as difficult on those paths, on 1910 01:29:37.640 --> 01:29:40.439 those heart more difficult paths. Is it the combat or 1911 01:29:40.479 --> 01:29:41.520 the platforming or both? 1912 01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:43.399 It can definitely be both, I mean, but there are 1913 01:29:43.399 --> 01:29:45.800 some where it's like there are you know, definite like 1914 01:29:46.159 --> 01:29:48.600 aerial abilities and things like that that will kind of 1915 01:29:48.640 --> 01:29:49.920 soften your well. 1916 01:29:49.920 --> 01:29:51.560 I mean, let's let's let's talk about one. 1917 01:29:51.760 --> 01:29:53.800 Was talking about like there's the hover thing. I don't yeesh. 1918 01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:56.039 It's basically not really a flutter dump. It's more of 1919 01:29:56.079 --> 01:29:59.039 just like a hover down like you know, the whole 1920 01:29:59.079 --> 01:29:59.920 day and then the whole day. 1921 01:30:00.479 --> 01:30:03.039 Yeah, let's let's let's expect that we're going to get 1922 01:30:03.079 --> 01:30:06.359 most of the Metroid Vena abilities in this Metroid Veinya game. 1923 01:30:06.439 --> 01:30:07.920 And that's like, you know, one of the early ones 1924 01:30:07.920 --> 01:30:09.680 you get in Sympathy of the Night, it's here as well. 1925 01:30:10.359 --> 01:30:13.199 It's like lighter kind of thing. It's like a glider thing. Yeah, totally. 1926 01:30:13.279 --> 01:30:15.039 And so like Hunter's March, which I see as an 1927 01:30:15.079 --> 01:30:16.560 area that people are talking about a lot because it 1928 01:30:16.560 --> 01:30:19.600 is a pain in the ass. But if you go 1929 01:30:19.680 --> 01:30:20.239 there and you. 1930 01:30:20.439 --> 01:30:22.640 Go with names, can you describe like there's like a 1931 01:30:22.640 --> 01:30:26.199 little red flowers and the diagonal brute forced those with 1932 01:30:26.239 --> 01:30:29.000 the with the early everything no flutter, no downward thing. 1933 01:30:29.039 --> 01:30:31.199 I was assumed the diagonal jump and I got through 1934 01:30:31.279 --> 01:30:34.119 like most of that thing by just brute forcing it. 1935 01:30:34.159 --> 01:30:35.560 It was a lot of fun. I'm glad I could 1936 01:30:35.600 --> 01:30:37.279 do that, but I yeah, I got some of those 1937 01:30:37.279 --> 01:30:37.840 other things, and I. 1938 01:30:37.840 --> 01:30:40.279 Was like, oh, like it gives you the tools and stuff, 1939 01:30:40.359 --> 01:30:41.720 like you know, the air dash. You know, if you're 1940 01:30:41.760 --> 01:30:43.880 just doing the diagonal slash and air dashes, you can 1941 01:30:43.920 --> 01:30:45.840 get through all that area. But then once you get 1942 01:30:45.840 --> 01:30:47.520 the like lighter thing, it's like, oh fuck, that would 1943 01:30:47.520 --> 01:30:49.680 have been so much easier. Which you're talking about the 1944 01:30:49.680 --> 01:30:53.359 downward one that I have not equipped that once because 1945 01:30:53.399 --> 01:30:55.520 it's like I know some people like and it's easier 1946 01:30:55.520 --> 01:30:57.279 to do the bounces when it's straight down like the 1947 01:30:57.279 --> 01:31:00.720 first game. But I fucking love that. I love so much. 1948 01:31:01.079 --> 01:31:03.600 It's in combat too, because you can get into the. 1949 01:31:04.000 --> 01:31:07.800 Back and forth routine is really awesome. The thing is like, 1950 01:31:08.600 --> 01:31:11.199 I can't tell I'm still like learning that system. I 1951 01:31:11.199 --> 01:31:13.359 think if I have that's called like the Reaper ability. 1952 01:31:13.359 --> 01:31:14.680 If I have that one, is that the one that 1953 01:31:14.680 --> 01:31:17.119 allows me to do the run and upper cut attack. 1954 01:31:17.239 --> 01:31:19.680 I think that's what it is Cress. 1955 01:31:19.760 --> 01:31:22.520 So yeah, this whole crest system is interesting because it's 1956 01:31:22.920 --> 01:31:25.800 both the slots for your badges, which is what gives 1957 01:31:25.840 --> 01:31:29.039 you extra abilities, but it basically changes your core move 1958 01:31:29.159 --> 01:31:32.279 set to It changes the look and feel and timing 1959 01:31:32.640 --> 01:31:36.000 of your basic attack animations or you're running attack is Reaper. 1960 01:31:36.079 --> 01:31:37.520 The thing that gave me the downward attack? Is that 1961 01:31:37.600 --> 01:31:38.119 something different? 1962 01:31:38.119 --> 01:31:40.600 The first one is the is so the first one 1963 01:31:40.680 --> 01:31:42.399 that I know Reapers will give you that downward one. 1964 01:31:42.439 --> 01:31:44.479 Okay, okay, all right, well it's straight down. There is 1965 01:31:44.520 --> 01:31:46.720 a crest that gives you basically the movement of the 1966 01:31:46.760 --> 01:31:49.840 first Hollow Night straight down to Okay, yeah. 1967 01:31:51.319 --> 01:31:52.960 I like that third crest a lot. I was using 1968 01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:55.119 for a while until recently where I kind of upgraded 1969 01:31:55.119 --> 01:31:56.960 my first Cress because yeah, I was like, oh yeah, 1970 01:31:57.199 --> 01:31:59.640 this is basically just the Hollow Night one. 1971 01:31:59.760 --> 01:32:00.119 Crawt Ye. 1972 01:32:00.239 --> 01:32:01.520 I think it was a smart thing to put that in. 1973 01:32:01.600 --> 01:32:04.079 But see I had one boss fight where I switched 1974 01:32:04.079 --> 01:32:06.319 to Reaper. I think it's the more wing fight. I 1975 01:32:06.359 --> 01:32:09.159 switched to Reaper, but I have not wanted to switch 1976 01:32:09.199 --> 01:32:11.399 to others because it's like you get those memory modules 1977 01:32:11.520 --> 01:32:14.560 and it's like, okay, well I'm expanding my basic you 1978 01:32:14.560 --> 01:32:16.720 know one, and so now I've got I can equip 1979 01:32:16.840 --> 01:32:18.880 two blues and two reds and stuff like that. Like 1980 01:32:18.920 --> 01:32:20.760 I don't want to go to another crest right now. 1981 01:32:21.119 --> 01:32:23.600 Become invested in them, and those crests aren't necessarily super 1982 01:32:24.079 --> 01:32:26.119 easy to come by. It's part than me almost wishes. Yeah, 1983 01:32:26.159 --> 01:32:29.199 like maybe like the crest unlocked one for each thing, 1984 01:32:29.239 --> 01:32:31.239 because yeah, I'm a little bit like I think I'd 1985 01:32:31.239 --> 01:32:32.920 like to use this one, but I kind of I 1986 01:32:33.000 --> 01:32:35.560 unlocked all of the crests in that Reaper one and 1987 01:32:35.600 --> 01:32:38.319 then later was like, I don't like this one, and. 1988 01:32:38.279 --> 01:32:40.239 You can't refund it. You can't respect that thing. So 1989 01:32:40.239 --> 01:32:41.680 it's just well, I know for sure I like the 1990 01:32:41.680 --> 01:32:43.680 base move set, so I'm just gonna stick with that 1991 01:32:43.760 --> 01:32:48.560 and go nuts with it. God, the boss fights so 1992 01:32:48.920 --> 01:32:52.800 freaking good, some of the best boss fights I've ever seen. 1993 01:32:53.119 --> 01:32:55.880 Just the patterns and just like you know, it's I've 1994 01:32:55.880 --> 01:32:57.760 said this about many different games in the past. Words 1995 01:32:57.840 --> 01:32:58.800 just the thing where you go and you get your 1996 01:32:58.840 --> 01:33:01.239 ass whooped the first couple of times. Then it's like, well, okay, 1997 01:33:01.239 --> 01:33:03.119 I've learned that. I get to the next phase. And 1998 01:33:03.159 --> 01:33:04.680 then you know, Snoby, I think I was saying the 1999 01:33:04.680 --> 01:33:06.520 same stuff too. It's just like you're gonna die a 2000 01:33:06.520 --> 01:33:09.920 bunch like more Wing. I fucking died, like Bonk heard 2001 01:33:09.960 --> 01:33:12.000 me from two floors up, screaming and like I'm not 2002 01:33:12.039 --> 01:33:14.119 a super vocal when I'm just like playing games by 2003 01:33:14.159 --> 01:33:16.960 myself at home, not streaming the silent, I'm yelling and sah, 2004 01:33:17.079 --> 01:33:20.039 I'm fucking screaming at this fucking more Wing thing. And 2005 01:33:20.159 --> 01:33:22.840 took me, i'd say over well over an hour, I'd 2006 01:33:22.840 --> 01:33:25.039 say like thirty tries. And I did see that they 2007 01:33:25.079 --> 01:33:27.800 nerved it. They feel I feel like someone who like 2008 01:33:27.800 --> 01:33:29.520 paid off his student loans and now I'm mad about 2009 01:33:29.560 --> 01:33:34.520 student I fucking had to go through that. 2010 01:33:34.640 --> 01:33:37.000 No, just to be clear that it's a universally good policy. 2011 01:33:37.039 --> 01:33:40.000 I don't want anyone to be I feel like one 2012 01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:41.199 of these people that I'm mad about it. 2013 01:33:41.279 --> 01:33:42.760 You know, yeah, did you do? 2014 01:33:43.680 --> 01:33:46.920 I won't get did you do? The clockwork Dancers boss 2015 01:33:46.920 --> 01:33:49.000 Fight where there's like two of them and they kind 2016 01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:51.439 of were like just moving. Oh god, oh such a 2017 01:33:51.439 --> 01:33:51.800 good one. 2018 01:33:51.880 --> 01:33:53.680 Well, I don't know if I did well real quick, 2019 01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:57.039 like more wing these bosses, like what is making them difficult? 2020 01:33:57.520 --> 01:33:59.279 Warring didn't get me too much trouble. That was like 2021 01:33:59.359 --> 01:34:02.119 for four attempts, but it was like I was definitely 2022 01:34:02.199 --> 01:34:04.960 like getting frustrated because I'm like, these patterns are so 2023 01:34:05.159 --> 01:34:08.399 simple and they're so telegraphed, like I can tell what's happening, 2024 01:34:08.600 --> 01:34:10.119 and I think they just have a lot of health. 2025 01:34:10.399 --> 01:34:12.319 And then I'm like I kind of like get sloppy 2026 01:34:12.359 --> 01:34:13.720 and then at the end of the fight, like that's 2027 01:34:13.720 --> 01:34:16.119 go on long enough that it's like it punishes you. 2028 01:34:16.239 --> 01:34:19.439 You aren't locked in, it tricks you into getting greedy, 2029 01:34:19.479 --> 01:34:21.920 and so much difficulty is teaching yourself so greed. 2030 01:34:22.520 --> 01:34:24.960 Yeah, that's that is my Achilles heal with these games 2031 01:34:25.079 --> 01:34:27.079 is if you get me stuff that looks cool and 2032 01:34:27.159 --> 01:34:30.840 feels cool, I'm gonna want to do it and every opportunity, 2033 01:34:30.880 --> 01:34:32.840 even when I shouldn't, I want to like make this 2034 01:34:32.920 --> 01:34:34.880 fight feel as cool as possible because I feel like 2035 01:34:34.880 --> 01:34:37.000 I'm supposed to instead of playing it safe. 2036 01:34:37.000 --> 01:34:39.199 And that's what that's what I And you get greedy, 2037 01:34:39.239 --> 01:34:40.800 you get in, you try to do too many attacks 2038 01:34:40.800 --> 01:34:42.439 and why you're doing that. You're not seeing how many 2039 01:34:42.439 --> 01:34:44.880 health pips you have left and everything, or you're healing 2040 01:34:44.880 --> 01:34:46.920 it stupid times, or just like instead of waiting for 2041 01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:48.960 an attack and then healing while they're getting ready for 2042 01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:50.760 the next one, you do it at a bad time. 2043 01:34:51.760 --> 01:34:53.760 It's interesting how like you know, you say more Wing 2044 01:34:53.840 --> 01:34:56.159 didn't take you bunch. It's like, I think everyone's gonna 2045 01:34:56.159 --> 01:34:57.800 have the different ones they struggle with, because like more 2046 01:34:57.840 --> 01:35:00.000 Wing was hell for me, but then I heard Peop 2047 01:35:00.039 --> 01:35:01.760 will be like, oh, just wait for Savage beast Fly, 2048 01:35:01.920 --> 01:35:03.840 and like I didn't have that much trouble with Savage 2049 01:35:03.880 --> 01:35:06.520 Beast Fly. So I do think it's just like. 2050 01:35:06.880 --> 01:35:09.199 Ye, that's that's the from Soul or the you know, 2051 01:35:09.199 --> 01:35:11.399 the from game influence there right layer where it's like 2052 01:35:12.760 --> 01:35:14.960 these bosses are gonna like really kind of trip up 2053 01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:16.800 certain people and it will be different for everyone. 2054 01:35:16.880 --> 01:35:19.079 Yeah, but Andy Simmonson from and I think that's why 2055 01:35:19.119 --> 01:35:21.600 it's like, you know, like like Securo for example, that 2056 01:35:21.720 --> 01:35:23.399 was the type of game where you couldn't just cheese 2057 01:35:23.399 --> 01:35:25.159 and level up and you had to just get good. 2058 01:35:25.439 --> 01:35:27.680 Similar with this, you can't really cheese that much. You 2059 01:35:27.680 --> 01:35:29.479 can't do. It's not like leveling up with XP. You 2060 01:35:29.479 --> 01:35:31.920 can do the rosary stuff and everything. But I think 2061 01:35:32.039 --> 01:35:35.840 this clicks for me, whereas I was frustrated by sekuro 2062 01:35:36.239 --> 01:35:38.479 is because it's the Perry stuff. Like I'm not like 2063 01:35:38.520 --> 01:35:41.159 an anti pery game guy or whatever, but like I'm 2064 01:35:41.199 --> 01:35:43.960 not as good at pairying as I am at dodging 2065 01:35:44.159 --> 01:35:46.239 and being on the offense, and so like, this is 2066 01:35:46.279 --> 01:35:49.560 all about utilizing your mobility for these boss fights, avoiding 2067 01:35:49.600 --> 01:35:51.399 their attacks, getting in there, knowing when to get your 2068 01:35:51.439 --> 01:35:53.840 shit in, how to stagger them go into a ton 2069 01:35:53.840 --> 01:35:54.960 of attack there, when to heal. 2070 01:35:55.159 --> 01:35:55.960 I can do all that. 2071 01:35:56.079 --> 01:35:59.239 It's just the like very specific, frame specific pairying stuff 2072 01:35:59.239 --> 01:36:01.920 I could do, which this it's not this, you know. 2073 01:36:02.520 --> 01:36:05.479 Another thing I love is just all of these little 2074 01:36:05.600 --> 01:36:07.960 side characters. I think all of them are just really. 2075 01:36:08.079 --> 01:36:10.800 Everyone rules that everyone's so good. 2076 01:36:11.399 --> 01:36:15.119 Surma is such an incredible character, That's what The first 2077 01:36:15.159 --> 01:36:18.039 one is going on is the pilgrim with the hat 2078 01:36:18.359 --> 01:36:22.239 and she's singing all the time. No, not map lady, 2079 01:36:22.359 --> 01:36:26.119 not made Lama. 2080 01:36:26.399 --> 01:36:27.560 I love her. Yeah. 2081 01:36:27.640 --> 01:36:29.600 The first time you see her, it's like she's on 2082 01:36:29.600 --> 01:36:30.359 the other side of a gate. 2083 01:36:30.439 --> 01:36:32.560 You and longet. She's like, Wow, can you believe that 2084 01:36:32.640 --> 01:36:34.439 gate just opened? I love it. 2085 01:36:34.880 --> 01:36:38.079 You're right, you did it, And you know what, I'm hoping. 2086 01:36:38.119 --> 01:36:39.640 I have no idea where it goes. I'm hoping by 2087 01:36:39.680 --> 01:36:41.399 the end you find out like actually, though there is 2088 01:36:41.399 --> 01:36:44.239 some magic to her song and actually it's powering you up, 2089 01:36:44.279 --> 01:36:46.640 and you're like, actually you're the one answering her prayers. 2090 01:36:47.239 --> 01:36:49.319 Yeah, because there's all these pilgrims, right, and they're like, 2091 01:36:49.319 --> 01:36:51.560 we don't even use weapons, that's sacrilege, and like most 2092 01:36:51.600 --> 01:36:54.520 of them die, and like some of them are like 2093 01:36:54.520 --> 01:36:56.720 you you find them later, and a lot of them 2094 01:36:56.720 --> 01:36:58.760 are like kind of harrowed and whatnot. But sure was 2095 01:36:58.840 --> 01:37:02.439 just like, I look, I found a hot spring, Come 2096 01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:05.000 join me. And she's just super happy to be there. 2097 01:37:05.119 --> 01:37:07.720 And when there's like fifty of these guys, like every 2098 01:37:07.800 --> 01:37:11.760 single one is cute and kind of dumb and fun. 2099 01:37:12.119 --> 01:37:13.119 I love all of them. 2100 01:37:13.199 --> 01:37:15.199 Have you met the spa guy that like he joins 2101 01:37:15.239 --> 01:37:17.039 the flee circuits and gives you like a little spa 2102 01:37:17.199 --> 01:37:18.560 Have you done the thing with him? 2103 01:37:18.840 --> 01:37:18.960 Oh? 2104 01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:20.680 I didn't go in there because he gave me bad vibes. 2105 01:37:20.680 --> 01:37:23.239 I guess I should do it any I'll. 2106 01:37:23.039 --> 01:37:25.520 Tell you this, go in there and hang out in 2107 01:37:25.600 --> 01:37:27.880 the spa, and there is something you can do if 2108 01:37:27.880 --> 01:37:29.520 you don't ever want to pay again to go into 2109 01:37:29.560 --> 01:37:32.159 the spot. Okayh yeah, okay, I really made me laugh here. 2110 01:37:32.159 --> 01:37:34.920 There's so many just so many times, especially later, I'll 2111 01:37:34.920 --> 01:37:37.239 go off the beaten path and I'll find something like 2112 01:37:37.359 --> 01:37:40.760 really interesting or kind of important and seeming that I'm like, 2113 01:37:40.840 --> 01:37:43.640 maybe you could just even miss this entirely. And I 2114 01:37:43.680 --> 01:37:46.680 love that the game can work like that. Like I 2115 01:37:46.760 --> 01:37:48.600 kind of like went back to the first area, like 2116 01:37:48.640 --> 01:37:50.960 the very first area and found this side path. I'm like, 2117 01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:52.600 I can't believe this was here. 2118 01:37:52.800 --> 01:37:55.199 Well, or the mor wing boss fight that I'm saying, 2119 01:37:55.319 --> 01:37:56.640 like that's an optional I heard you. 2120 01:37:56.600 --> 01:37:57.159 Can miss that. 2121 01:37:58.159 --> 01:37:58.960 Yeah, it's insane. 2122 01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:01.279 It's like that seems like a big major boss fightings like, no, 2123 01:38:01.359 --> 01:38:02.079 you can just skip that. 2124 01:38:02.399 --> 01:38:05.960 Oh it's a gosh, it's really neat. I love the 2125 01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:09.239 way the game looks, especially the environments. Everything is sort 2126 01:38:09.279 --> 01:38:13.079 of you know, still and spooky and off putting, but 2127 01:38:13.119 --> 01:38:15.960 there's a strange beauty to all of that as well. 2128 01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:17.800 It's it's you know, it's it kind of goes back 2129 01:38:17.840 --> 01:38:19.680 to some of the best super metural areas. I still 2130 01:38:19.720 --> 01:38:22.439 think that is the best kind of design I like 2131 01:38:22.560 --> 01:38:24.640 in these sort of games. So there is something creepy 2132 01:38:24.960 --> 01:38:28.640 just inherently about running around these giant areas by yourself. 2133 01:38:28.680 --> 01:38:31.279 When you get that eeriness translated to the aesthetic of 2134 01:38:31.319 --> 01:38:33.920 the game, it does that really well. 2135 01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:35.560 And there's like a mystery too, where it's like I 2136 01:38:35.560 --> 01:38:37.560 don't really understand the mechanics in the back that are, like, 2137 01:38:37.840 --> 01:38:39.760 you know, whenever you get to a new area, all 2138 01:38:39.800 --> 01:38:41.800 you want more than anything is to see those little 2139 01:38:41.840 --> 01:38:43.720 discs and know you're getting closed to the map lady 2140 01:38:43.800 --> 01:38:46.199 and stuff. And there are times you'll get there and 2141 01:38:46.239 --> 01:38:47.640 its like, okay, this is where she is, I'm going 2142 01:38:47.680 --> 01:38:49.079 to market on my map, this is where she is. 2143 01:38:49.119 --> 01:38:51.079 I'm gonna come back once I have rosaries And you 2144 01:38:51.119 --> 01:38:52.680 go back and she's gone, and it's like, did I 2145 01:38:52.720 --> 01:38:54.840 trigger something that made her go to a different area? 2146 01:38:54.960 --> 01:38:57.039 Does seem to move around a lot like for a while, 2147 01:38:57.039 --> 01:38:59.000 should be planted in the hometown, But I don't even 2148 01:38:59.039 --> 01:39:00.800 see you there her there anymore? 2149 01:39:00.920 --> 01:39:02.920 So Yeah, what do you mean the discs? 2150 01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:04.920 Is that you know, she's got the little like rings 2151 01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:08.439 that like they'll be hanging sometimes or stuck in the environment, 2152 01:39:08.560 --> 01:39:10.760 and I don't have to tell that like she's nearby 2153 01:39:10.800 --> 01:39:13.199 base or she could be there at some point, you know. 2154 01:39:13.520 --> 01:39:13.920 Yeah. 2155 01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:16.520 Yeah, the visuals that you were speaking about that like 2156 01:39:16.520 --> 01:39:19.520 the that there's like something about the Parallax where it's 2157 01:39:19.520 --> 01:39:22.479 both the most in your face parallax ever and yet 2158 01:39:22.720 --> 01:39:24.760 super subtle at the same time. I think it's just 2159 01:39:24.840 --> 01:39:28.279 it's natural looking in a way that like Parallax is 2160 01:39:28.279 --> 01:39:30.399 supposed to be very stylized, but this it just looks 2161 01:39:30.479 --> 01:39:33.960 like it's just gently sucking you into the screen, and 2162 01:39:34.079 --> 01:39:36.720 I don't know, it's really is mesmerizing to me as 2163 01:39:36.760 --> 01:39:37.159 I'm playing. 2164 01:39:37.199 --> 01:39:40.159 Yeah, they just have nailed this style of game. 2165 01:39:40.319 --> 01:39:42.279 I mean it feels like they had it done a 2166 01:39:42.319 --> 01:39:45.840 lot of time to really polish every aspect of it. Yes, 2167 01:39:45.920 --> 01:39:47.159 Sean Turbo, Sean McDowell. 2168 01:39:47.840 --> 01:39:50.000 I did have a question for one Jeff Grub from 2169 01:39:50.039 --> 01:39:53.720 Giantpom dot com. Yeah, you I thought were like me 2170 01:39:53.960 --> 01:39:56.520 and that you kind of bounced off of Hollow Night 2171 01:39:56.600 --> 01:39:58.680 one after trying it like a couple of times. 2172 01:39:58.960 --> 01:40:01.720 Yeah, I mean bounced off Like Yeah, I guess go 2173 01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:03.279 off is probably the right way to put it. I 2174 01:40:03.279 --> 01:40:07.399 definitely started up several times and couldn't click with Yeah, 2175 01:40:07.640 --> 01:40:09.359 not that thought it was bad. 2176 01:40:09.680 --> 01:40:12.239 Yeah, I know we have an entire legacy on the 2177 01:40:12.239 --> 01:40:14.760 internet and surrounding that. I am curious what it is 2178 01:40:14.760 --> 01:40:18.039 about Silk Songs, specifically that like sort of brought you 2179 01:40:18.079 --> 01:40:19.039 around on hollidnight. 2180 01:40:19.399 --> 01:40:22.359 Yeah, I think it's uh, I think it was. First 2181 01:40:22.399 --> 01:40:24.760 of all, I did have a good understanding of the 2182 01:40:24.800 --> 01:40:26.920 map system that I know that now that that is 2183 01:40:26.960 --> 01:40:28.920 a big part of what sort of caused me to 2184 01:40:28.960 --> 01:40:31.159 bounce off. I was finding those maps in the first game. 2185 01:40:31.399 --> 01:40:34.600 I was just like, I want to know where I'm 2186 01:40:34.600 --> 01:40:36.399 supposed like just give me a direction, like give me 2187 01:40:36.399 --> 01:40:38.600 an idea of like where I'm supposed to be headed, 2188 01:40:38.640 --> 01:40:40.479 like you know, give me some audio cues. And I 2189 01:40:40.479 --> 01:40:43.119 think what this game does is there are several audio 2190 01:40:43.199 --> 01:40:45.720 cues and like you'll hear that singing from a couple 2191 01:40:45.720 --> 01:40:47.920 of rooms over and I'm like, at least that has 2192 01:40:47.960 --> 01:40:50.159 given me something to work toward. And I think that 2193 01:40:50.199 --> 01:40:52.520 was enough to bridge the gap. And then I got 2194 01:40:52.560 --> 01:40:55.319 into I think the first boss fight pretty quickly, and 2195 01:40:55.359 --> 01:40:57.640 then really soon after that the second boss fight, and 2196 01:40:57.680 --> 01:40:59.840 I was like, oh, I'm like feeling a pace here. 2197 01:41:00.079 --> 01:41:03.479 Of progression that is that feels really nice. And so 2198 01:41:03.520 --> 01:41:05.840 I'm already sort of on the treadmill and it's carrying 2199 01:41:05.840 --> 01:41:08.520 me along. I'll just see what's next. And then another 2200 01:41:08.560 --> 01:41:11.319 power up and now a new set of skills and this, 2201 01:41:11.479 --> 01:41:13.439 and then another power up and then another boss fight 2202 01:41:13.479 --> 01:41:16.039 and another boss fight, and I'm now I'm mocking the 2203 01:41:16.039 --> 01:41:17.560 map and I have a good idea in my head 2204 01:41:17.640 --> 01:41:19.760 like how the map works, and then I'm like, oh, 2205 01:41:19.760 --> 01:41:22.239 I'm lost, Like, oh, you know what, I don't think 2206 01:41:22.279 --> 01:41:23.920 I actually went to that door over there that's just 2207 01:41:23.920 --> 01:41:25.640 has a whole other named area. Let me go down there. 2208 01:41:25.680 --> 01:41:27.359 It's like, oh, yeah, this is where I'm supposed to be. 2209 01:41:27.840 --> 01:41:30.439 And once those things start like clicking one after another 2210 01:41:30.479 --> 01:41:33.640 at a relatively rapid pace, I'm on board for one 2211 01:41:33.720 --> 01:41:36.239 of these. I just like kind of didn't get to 2212 01:41:36.239 --> 01:41:38.520 that point with the first Hole of Night, and again 2213 01:41:38.319 --> 01:41:39.960 I thought, I'm like, I could tell this is a 2214 01:41:39.960 --> 01:41:42.119 good game and I will eventually love it, but this 2215 01:41:42.159 --> 01:41:43.800 one's just making it a little bit easier for me 2216 01:41:43.840 --> 01:41:44.279 to love it. 2217 01:41:44.399 --> 01:41:47.159 Okay, interesting and not being surprised by it helps, I think, 2218 01:41:47.159 --> 01:41:48.640 because like, yeah, that was the thing with the first one. 2219 01:41:48.760 --> 01:41:50.479 I think I had the exact same thing as Groboard's, 2220 01:41:50.520 --> 01:41:51.720 just like, man, where the fuck am I going? I 2221 01:41:51.760 --> 01:41:53.880 don't want I'm here to get lost, and then when 2222 01:41:53.880 --> 01:41:55.920 I go back, I don't have any sense of where 2223 01:41:55.920 --> 01:41:58.079 I'm going, Like, you know what you're signing up for 2224 01:41:58.119 --> 01:41:58.399 this time? 2225 01:41:58.479 --> 01:42:00.359 Yeah, because you know what to expect us, Like you're 2226 01:42:00.359 --> 01:42:03.039 comparing against our Metroid venus so much as against Hollow 2227 01:42:03.119 --> 01:42:03.680 Night itself. 2228 01:42:04.159 --> 01:42:07.520 Right, Okay? Uh mean chance? 2229 01:42:07.600 --> 01:42:11.359 No, no, no, no, no, John, You're the youngest, That's true. 2230 01:42:11.359 --> 01:42:12.199 You are the youngest. 2231 01:42:12.640 --> 01:42:17.239 Denied my insistence. That's so rude of him just to 2232 01:42:17.239 --> 01:42:21.640 offer a different perspective, is that. Uh I I fired 2233 01:42:21.640 --> 01:42:23.039 it up just to try it out, you know. I 2234 01:42:23.279 --> 01:42:25.199 try to go and open mind and say, like, look, 2235 01:42:25.239 --> 01:42:27.159 I didn't like the first one for just so variety 2236 01:42:27.159 --> 01:42:29.800 of reasons. It just wasn't for me. It wasn't clicking. 2237 01:42:30.119 --> 01:42:33.760 I thought, I try Silk Song, and surprise, surprise, the 2238 01:42:33.800 --> 01:42:36.920 game that originally started as DLC for Hollow Night kind 2239 01:42:36.920 --> 01:42:39.119 of more Hollow Night. They re find some stuff. You're 2240 01:42:39.119 --> 01:42:41.079 playing as a different character. It feels a little different, 2241 01:42:41.239 --> 01:42:44.479 but is mostly more of a game in that vein, 2242 01:42:44.920 --> 01:42:48.079 And so for me in particular. As much as I 2243 01:42:48.159 --> 01:42:51.439 love Metroid it's my favorite gaming series, but I don't 2244 01:42:51.600 --> 01:42:54.640 usually love Metroid Venus because I typically don't like how 2245 01:42:54.680 --> 01:42:57.840 much Castle Vania is in them. Sure, and I've just 2246 01:42:57.920 --> 01:43:01.319 never I like, simply in Night, GBA wants fine enough. 2247 01:43:01.479 --> 01:43:03.920 I just don't like that they metro vedeas tend to 2248 01:43:03.920 --> 01:43:06.119 be longer games, they tend to take, you know, like 2249 01:43:06.199 --> 01:43:09.000 the RPG elements. They tend to be slower combat stuff 2250 01:43:09.039 --> 01:43:11.680 like that, and that's just never really been my thing. 2251 01:43:11.960 --> 01:43:14.119 And so playing Hollow Night, I was like, Okay, I 2252 01:43:14.119 --> 01:43:16.640 can tell. I can see that this is a game 2253 01:43:16.760 --> 01:43:19.119 made for people who like this stuff. It's a well 2254 01:43:19.159 --> 01:43:21.520 made game. It's just not my cup of tea. And 2255 01:43:21.560 --> 01:43:23.680 that's that's why I got a Silk Song. It's just 2256 01:43:23.960 --> 01:43:26.840 the various issues I had with Hollow Night one are 2257 01:43:26.960 --> 01:43:29.920 you know, specific to me, and I think other people 2258 01:43:30.319 --> 01:43:32.800 are feeling the same way. You know, It's clearly there's 2259 01:43:32.960 --> 01:43:35.640 huge love for Hollow Night and Silk Song, and just 2260 01:43:35.840 --> 01:43:37.439 some of us are just going to bounce off of it. 2261 01:43:37.520 --> 01:43:40.960 And I think that's totally fine because there are games 2262 01:43:40.960 --> 01:43:43.760 like I was just you know, gushing about Shanobi being 2263 01:43:43.800 --> 01:43:47.600 such a fast paced game and like combat heavy, combo heavy, 2264 01:43:47.920 --> 01:43:50.199 and that's for people like me. And I think it's 2265 01:43:50.239 --> 01:43:52.159 cool that Silksong is out here for people who do 2266 01:43:52.239 --> 01:43:56.039 want the more slower pace, exploration driven experience instead. 2267 01:43:56.159 --> 01:43:58.159 Yeah, and I think that's slow pace in terms of 2268 01:43:58.199 --> 01:44:00.960 like the character movement and mobility. The options early on 2269 01:44:01.159 --> 01:44:04.319 is like like it speeds up, like you do eventually 2270 01:44:04.319 --> 01:44:06.239 get the dash and that dash turns into a sprint 2271 01:44:06.279 --> 01:44:10.279 and it feels awesome. It's such a good feeling run. 2272 01:44:11.159 --> 01:44:12.920 But the game is meant to be played at a 2273 01:44:12.960 --> 01:44:14.880 slower pace. It is meant to be like you're supposed 2274 01:44:14.880 --> 01:44:16.840 to take your time. If you don't know exactly what's 2275 01:44:16.840 --> 01:44:18.680 ahead of you, you better be going slow or else 2276 01:44:18.680 --> 01:44:22.479 you're gonna get punished. And that is I think something 2277 01:44:22.560 --> 01:44:25.640 that will cause some people like, oh, okay, like what 2278 01:44:25.680 --> 01:44:27.399 do you want from me? You're giving me these abilities, 2279 01:44:27.960 --> 01:44:30.600 but should I, like, can I actually take advantage of that? 2280 01:44:30.640 --> 01:44:32.359 It's like, no, you need to take your time here. 2281 01:44:32.560 --> 01:44:34.359 And it does feel like it's rubbing up against players 2282 01:44:34.359 --> 01:44:34.840 in some ways. 2283 01:44:35.000 --> 01:44:36.800 I can see that if you are in the camp 2284 01:44:36.840 --> 01:44:38.920 of this is this is a video game version of 2285 01:44:39.000 --> 01:44:40.199 going to the car and realize like I. 2286 01:44:40.119 --> 01:44:41.279 Don't know my car keys. 2287 01:44:41.399 --> 01:44:43.680 Yeah, you're not gonna like this, like you kind of 2288 01:44:43.720 --> 01:44:46.000 have to like getting a little loss and having to 2289 01:44:46.319 --> 01:44:47.600 run around and explore. 2290 01:44:48.319 --> 01:44:53.920 And if someone brought that up said yeah, it makes 2291 01:44:53.920 --> 01:44:58.960 sense under if he even if he said it's more understanding. 2292 01:44:59.039 --> 01:45:04.319 Yeah, uh you guys. You guys went and played this 2293 01:45:04.439 --> 01:45:10.560 game like normis. Yeah, I did science. I did some 2294 01:45:10.640 --> 01:45:12.800 fucking well inadvertently did some science. 2295 01:45:12.800 --> 01:45:14.319 Put it on a Bunsen burner, like what you do? 2296 01:45:14.560 --> 01:45:16.199 Yeah, I want to see what it's boiling. 2297 01:45:16.279 --> 01:45:20.279 Point was I sat down to show did this game 2298 01:45:20.520 --> 01:45:22.840 just because I wanted him to look at the pretty 2299 01:45:22.880 --> 01:45:27.079 animation and the colors and all that. And he said, 2300 01:45:27.439 --> 01:45:32.239 give me the controller and I said, okay, sweaty, let's 2301 01:45:32.239 --> 01:45:36.800 see how you play your first Metroid VNIA. So what 2302 01:45:36.800 --> 01:45:37.640 do you guys think? 2303 01:45:38.359 --> 01:45:38.920 What do you think? 2304 01:45:39.760 --> 01:45:40.279 What do you think? 2305 01:45:40.640 --> 01:45:42.079 His obnoxious on this. 2306 01:45:43.920 --> 01:45:47.359 Well, I felt I have an equally obnoxious read When 2307 01:45:47.359 --> 01:45:50.039 he said to me, does it have to be bugs? 2308 01:45:50.199 --> 01:45:52.560 And I said, and I was sort of like, yeah, 2309 01:45:52.560 --> 01:45:54.399 I'm kind of with you there. They're cute bugs, but 2310 01:45:54.399 --> 01:45:55.159 they're still bugs. 2311 01:45:55.199 --> 01:46:00.479 Nonetheless necessarily love the bug thing either, Yeah, I love it. 2312 01:46:00.479 --> 01:46:01.560 It's not it's fine. 2313 01:46:01.720 --> 01:46:06.079 It's gross enough for me to be upset. So, but 2314 01:46:06.239 --> 01:46:07.800 how do you think he how do you think it 2315 01:46:07.880 --> 01:46:09.520 went with him? 2316 01:46:09.920 --> 01:46:12.000 I get frustrated and quit within. 2317 01:46:12.319 --> 01:46:14.560 I think the safe that yeah, that he got lost 2318 01:46:14.600 --> 01:46:15.119 and hated it. 2319 01:46:15.119 --> 01:46:16.920 Oh, I want to be surprised, and he just showed 2320 01:46:16.920 --> 01:46:19.000 you up and made you look like an absolute wimp. 2321 01:46:20.359 --> 01:46:22.920 Well, so he I started playing, He's like, give me 2322 01:46:22.960 --> 01:46:26.319 the controller, and yeah, it's kind of like a little 2323 01:46:26.319 --> 01:46:28.920 bit of everything. He got to that first boss and 2324 01:46:28.960 --> 01:46:31.720 he was just like what is this? Like why is 2325 01:46:31.760 --> 01:46:33.239 this hard? Uh? 2326 01:46:33.319 --> 01:46:35.760 You know, this kid's used to Astrobot. He's like Astrobots. 2327 01:46:36.119 --> 01:46:36.319 You know. 2328 01:46:36.439 --> 01:46:38.279 He's like, that's a game where I could play with 2329 01:46:38.800 --> 01:46:41.600 you know, my my eyes closed. And I'm like, yeah, 2330 01:46:41.640 --> 01:46:43.479 it turns out there's a lot of games that are hard, 2331 01:46:43.520 --> 01:46:44.760 and this is your first hard game. 2332 01:46:44.800 --> 01:46:46.600 You're gonna have to like have trouble with the first 2333 01:46:46.680 --> 01:46:47.720 jump and Cuphead as well. 2334 01:46:48.159 --> 01:46:51.279 Yeah, Cupet. 2335 01:46:51.920 --> 01:46:55.960 He just likes the brand. I know you're a controversy 2336 01:46:56.000 --> 01:47:00.079 with that game. But so he he was pissed. He 2337 01:47:00.279 --> 01:47:03.199 the boss killed him five times. He's like, this is bad. 2338 01:47:03.520 --> 01:47:04.640 He actually went in his room. 2339 01:47:04.760 --> 01:47:07.640 He goes I don't like this game. It's a He's like, 2340 01:47:07.680 --> 01:47:11.680 you know what, it's a bad game. Dad. Did you 2341 01:47:11.800 --> 01:47:16.039 scream the skill issue at him? I said, so, I'm not, guys, 2342 01:47:16.079 --> 01:47:17.680 I'm not joking. I'm probably airing too much of the 2343 01:47:17.760 --> 01:47:21.680 laundry here. Like fifteen minutes went by, right. He comes 2344 01:47:21.720 --> 01:47:24.880 back in and he's like, I'm sorry I acted that way, 2345 01:47:25.079 --> 01:47:28.720 and I get it, I understated Gaer moment. 2346 01:47:28.880 --> 01:47:31.199 Is that his first heated, his. 2347 01:47:31.199 --> 01:47:34.720 First his first age. Yeah, it was beautiful. 2348 01:47:34.760 --> 01:47:36.840 It happens when any any child turns down. 2349 01:47:38.119 --> 01:47:38.920 It was yeah. 2350 01:47:38.960 --> 01:47:42.159 And I was like, listen, you're kind of mean to 2351 01:47:42.199 --> 01:47:45.239 me there because I was like a little laugh I was. 2352 01:47:45.399 --> 01:47:46.079 I was laughing. 2353 01:47:46.119 --> 01:47:47.640 I was trying not to, but what he was doing 2354 01:47:47.720 --> 01:47:49.800 was so cute that he was like so frustrated. I 2355 01:47:49.880 --> 01:47:51.680 kind of laughed at it a little bit, and I'm like, oh, 2356 01:47:51.720 --> 01:47:53.039 you're just being a dumb little kid. 2357 01:47:53.039 --> 01:47:54.520 And I think we've all been that problem. We're like 2358 01:47:54.560 --> 01:47:58.319 watching a friend or faimly member like struggle and we 2359 01:47:58.439 --> 01:47:59.119 think it's funny. 2360 01:47:59.239 --> 01:48:02.199 Sure, whenever you guys. 2361 01:48:02.079 --> 01:48:04.319 Are struggling on Blake Club, I don't think there's anything funny. 2362 01:48:05.880 --> 01:48:08.439 So he came back and He's like, I would like 2363 01:48:08.479 --> 01:48:11.119 to try that again, okay, And I was like all right, 2364 01:48:12.119 --> 01:48:13.920 and he and he and he beat the boss on 2365 01:48:13.960 --> 01:48:15.920 the first try. 2366 01:48:16.399 --> 01:48:19.239 Sometimes he went to his room to go watch a video. 2367 01:48:19.279 --> 01:48:21.760 That's what he did. Now listen. 2368 01:48:22.479 --> 01:48:24.039 I don't know if this guy is making it through 2369 01:48:24.119 --> 01:48:26.319 anymore of this game. That was a traumatic experience, but 2370 01:48:26.359 --> 01:48:28.520 it was growth, and I think it was like a 2371 01:48:29.439 --> 01:48:31.199 tangible mile marker. 2372 01:48:32.560 --> 01:48:34.520 Give him Metroit dread or something. 2373 01:48:34.600 --> 01:48:36.479 Give I don't think that's a pretty hard one. 2374 01:48:36.720 --> 01:48:44.760 Yeah, yeah, one of the GBA Castlevania's you guys throw 2375 01:48:44.840 --> 01:48:47.720 that out like he's just gonna play a GBA game and. 2376 01:48:51.000 --> 01:48:51.399 A question. 2377 01:48:51.600 --> 01:48:54.479 It's very modern as law, quality of life stuff. That 2378 01:48:54.479 --> 01:48:56.079 would be a good one if he wants the style. 2379 01:48:57.159 --> 01:48:59.199 I feel like the robots might be too scary for 2380 01:48:59.279 --> 01:49:01.560 DIB though. Yeah, but there's as. 2381 01:49:01.199 --> 01:49:02.399 They think I added an easy mode. 2382 01:49:02.399 --> 01:49:03.760 Now, yeah, it's possible. 2383 01:49:04.039 --> 01:49:07.439 You know, I'm going to play this in front of 2384 01:49:07.560 --> 01:49:10.600 him more and see if I can like kind of 2385 01:49:10.680 --> 01:49:11.760 incept him, you know. 2386 01:49:12.079 --> 01:49:13.960 And he was definitely looking over my shoulder when I 2387 01:49:14.000 --> 01:49:15.600 was helping her get to sleep last night, and she 2388 01:49:15.760 --> 01:49:18.199 like she was like super into Expedition thirty three She's like, 2389 01:49:18.199 --> 01:49:19.399 what is going on in this game? 2390 01:49:19.520 --> 01:49:19.880 Totally? 2391 01:49:19.880 --> 01:49:22.159 She seems a little bit less into this one. I 2392 01:49:22.239 --> 01:49:24.119 was like, but she was also pretty sleepy. So I'm 2393 01:49:24.119 --> 01:49:26.239 gonna play again and see what she thinks now, kind 2394 01:49:26.239 --> 01:49:27.199 of get her opinion on it. 2395 01:49:27.239 --> 01:49:29.800 Is the gimmick really just getting into French culture? 2396 01:49:30.359 --> 01:49:33.239 I think, of course, Yes, Jane, I thought it was 2397 01:49:33.279 --> 01:49:35.199 cute that you thought this problem with the GBA game 2398 01:49:35.199 --> 01:49:37.560 would be its accessibility on the switchhee, and not the 2399 01:49:37.600 --> 01:49:39.760 fact that it looks like a GBA game. 2400 01:49:39.840 --> 01:49:42.840 Yeah. 2401 01:49:43.840 --> 01:49:45.760 Shit, played roadblocks. I don't want to hear it. 2402 01:49:45.880 --> 01:49:47.119 He does not anymore. 2403 01:49:47.960 --> 01:49:50.399 It was fun, so maybe there's just encouraging. He woke 2404 01:49:50.479 --> 01:49:52.039 up the next day and was just like, you didn't. 2405 01:49:52.199 --> 01:49:54.560 He's like, you didn't. You said you made your own save, right, 2406 01:49:55.079 --> 01:49:57.560 So I was like, all right, so maybe there is some. 2407 01:49:57.640 --> 01:50:02.640 Light that is a rough starter. Metro Van Oh yeah. 2408 01:50:02.479 --> 01:50:04.680 We threw them in the deep end, you know, the 2409 01:50:04.760 --> 01:50:07.119 first one being Super Mario Brothers to Japan, like this 2410 01:50:07.279 --> 01:50:07.840 is platform. 2411 01:50:08.720 --> 01:50:10.439 Give them ye, give them Shadow Complex. 2412 01:50:11.119 --> 01:50:19.920 Yeah, because it's killing killing Modern keep saying Or he 2413 01:50:19.920 --> 01:50:23.600 he definitely saw Or at one point is much younger, 2414 01:50:23.880 --> 01:50:24.640 So maybe. 2415 01:50:24.439 --> 01:50:28.239 There Metroid zero Mission its Game Boy Advance game. But 2416 01:50:28.239 --> 01:50:32.079 come on thinking it's going yeah. 2417 01:50:32.439 --> 01:50:33.720 We'll see, we'll see. 2418 01:50:34.039 --> 01:50:36.680 Okay, okay, I just need more kids like Metro venues 2419 01:50:36.680 --> 01:50:37.159 back are. 2420 01:50:37.199 --> 01:50:40.399 Sounds like apparently apparently a lot of people do like me, 2421 01:50:41.159 --> 01:50:43.439 only these two and they should play more of them. 2422 01:50:43.800 --> 01:50:46.680 Yeah, Like, I should not take this as a sign 2423 01:50:46.680 --> 01:50:48.960 that this genre is growing. This is just a hollow 2424 01:50:49.039 --> 01:50:51.199 night thing, right, just a hollow night thing. 2425 01:50:51.359 --> 01:50:54.760 And sometimes sometimes one game standing out can be good 2426 01:50:54.760 --> 01:50:58.960 for the genre. Stuff like Game prisona kind of carrying 2427 01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:01.800 turn based RPGs outside of Pokemon for kids, you know, 2428 01:51:01.840 --> 01:51:04.479 they played Pokemon, they graduate to Persona and they're like, 2429 01:51:04.479 --> 01:51:06.520 oh wait, I should check out more of these. Yeah, 2430 01:51:06.600 --> 01:51:08.279 sometimes you get for the genre. 2431 01:51:08.079 --> 01:51:11.800 Right collecting monsters, I collect friends. What. 2432 01:51:12.720 --> 01:51:14.960 It's just like, this game is gonna sell probably thirty 2433 01:51:15.079 --> 01:51:16.279 twenty million copies. 2434 01:51:16.279 --> 01:51:18.920 I'll say twenty million to be nice, and no, let's 2435 01:51:18.920 --> 01:51:19.800 say one hundred million. 2436 01:51:20.079 --> 01:51:21.920 I say twenty million, and the Prince the person Lost 2437 01:51:21.920 --> 01:51:24.920 crowns Like at one I'm just saying, like, maybe nineteen 2438 01:51:25.000 --> 01:51:27.439 million of you should give Prince of Person. 2439 01:51:27.279 --> 01:51:28.159 Lost crown to try. 2440 01:51:28.279 --> 01:51:29.479 I think you might like it. 2441 01:51:29.680 --> 01:51:32.039 Would this be the highest selling Metro video. Let's say 2442 01:51:32.039 --> 01:51:33.479 it hits twenty mostly. 2443 01:51:33.560 --> 01:51:35.680 Yeah, he is the best selling Metric. 2444 01:51:35.479 --> 01:51:38.199 Vibe is wild to meat like the success is just 2445 01:51:38.239 --> 01:51:40.359 so oh like it's crazy, Dan, I. 2446 01:51:40.319 --> 01:51:43.520 Found it fascinating the idea. You didn't know Metroid games 2447 01:51:43.680 --> 01:51:45.479 rarely sell one a half million. 2448 01:51:45.640 --> 01:51:48.279 I think it was definite. I didn't know Metroid sold 2449 01:51:48.359 --> 01:51:50.479 so low. And I also didn't know Hollow Night sold 2450 01:51:50.520 --> 01:51:52.399 so much. Like when you told me that that this 2451 01:51:52.479 --> 01:51:54.760 has sold more than any Metroid, that blew my mind. 2452 01:51:54.800 --> 01:51:58.000 I think, like for real, within the next month, the 2453 01:51:58.039 --> 01:52:01.159 two holid Night games will have outsold Metro as a series. Wow, 2454 01:52:01.800 --> 01:52:06.840 Like the month. Yeah, it's almost certainly very close. So 2455 01:52:06.880 --> 01:52:08.960 it's like probably they said five million, or is it. 2456 01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:10.319 Do we get a number for Hollo Night too, I 2457 01:52:10.319 --> 01:52:13.640 don't know, but it's probably around number two. Uh, the 2458 01:52:13.680 --> 01:52:16.680 first one was fifteen million. I guess Metroid generally is 2459 01:52:16.680 --> 01:52:18.840 around twenty two million. You know that's those are fuzzy numbers. 2460 01:52:19.159 --> 01:52:19.640 It's close. 2461 01:52:19.800 --> 01:52:22.840 I do think that, Like you know that the hype 2462 01:52:22.880 --> 01:52:25.840 has been crazy with the whole situation leading up for this, 2463 01:52:25.920 --> 01:52:28.359 but right now, I do think if you made like 2464 01:52:28.399 --> 01:52:31.039 a mount rushmore of Metroid VANDEA games. It would not 2465 01:52:31.119 --> 01:52:33.479 be a crazy thing to put this on there. You know, 2466 01:52:33.520 --> 01:52:35.079 I'm not done with this one in particular, but just 2467 01:52:35.079 --> 01:52:37.079 you know, Hollow Night, Like I think it's what the 2468 01:52:37.359 --> 01:52:42.119 front runners would be, like Symphony, super Metroid, this Prince 2469 01:52:42.159 --> 01:52:43.119 of Persia. 2470 01:52:42.800 --> 01:52:45.600 Prince of Persia, maybe uh Ore won the West. Also 2471 01:52:45.640 --> 01:52:46.520 incredibly good. 2472 01:52:46.520 --> 01:52:47.840 It was, It's really good. I don't know if i'd 2473 01:52:47.840 --> 01:52:48.159 put on the. 2474 01:52:48.159 --> 01:52:50.039 Level of the Opecially. 2475 01:52:51.159 --> 01:52:53.600 That's also one that really broke through the mainstream as well, 2476 01:52:53.640 --> 01:52:55.279 because the way Whim sounds. 2477 01:52:55.239 --> 01:53:00.079 Oh wow, yeah it's Xbox too. So yeah, But I 2478 01:53:00.079 --> 01:53:01.880 think you're right in I think this is a you know, 2479 01:53:02.079 --> 01:53:03.359 there's a lot of hype, and it seems to be 2480 01:53:03.399 --> 01:53:04.199 leading up to the hype. 2481 01:53:04.199 --> 01:53:05.439 You know, there's all these. 2482 01:53:05.279 --> 01:53:07.760 Conversations with these games about difficulty and stuff like that. 2483 01:53:07.920 --> 01:53:10.119 There meant to be difficulty games that push up against 2484 01:53:10.119 --> 01:53:13.159 you a lot. That's kind of the flavor here. 2485 01:53:13.239 --> 01:53:15.800 Also, like interested to see people who are like giving 2486 01:53:15.800 --> 01:53:18.079 their feedback on the difficulty because they're not this is 2487 01:53:18.119 --> 01:53:21.359 not their game or not their franchise, not their genre, 2488 01:53:21.640 --> 01:53:23.279 and they're like, okay, well is it supposed to be 2489 01:53:23.279 --> 01:53:25.479 this difficult? All right? Like here's how I feel about that. 2490 01:53:25.680 --> 01:53:27.720 I want to hear more people talk about this that. 2491 01:53:28.039 --> 01:53:30.199 Yeah, I actually, you know, we'll get into it. I see, 2492 01:53:30.199 --> 01:53:31.920 there's a new story, so we'll talk about But I 2493 01:53:31.920 --> 01:53:35.159 do think there's a difference between difficulty and accessibility when 2494 01:53:35.199 --> 01:53:37.479 it comes to this, because like something that annoyed me 2495 01:53:37.880 --> 01:53:40.520 when I was playing Silk Song was okay, I died 2496 01:53:40.560 --> 01:53:42.479 to a boss fight because I don't know the pattern yet, 2497 01:53:42.840 --> 01:53:44.880 but I go all the way back to say point, 2498 01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:46.640 and that's something where like a lot of games, the 2499 01:53:46.640 --> 01:53:49.279 e Metro advans will just checkpoint the boss fight. I 2500 01:53:49.399 --> 01:53:51.960 believe Dread did that right where you just restarted the 2501 01:53:51.960 --> 01:53:52.399 boss fight. 2502 01:53:52.680 --> 01:53:55.439 That is one thing, because even you know that the 2503 01:53:55.520 --> 01:53:57.560 walk back right that was a from Soft thing, and 2504 01:53:57.600 --> 01:54:00.119 even the newer from Soft games don't really have very 2505 01:54:00.119 --> 01:54:01.600 long walk backs anymore. 2506 01:54:01.840 --> 01:54:04.960 Yeah, Eldon Ring fixed that, So yeah, you know, like 2507 01:54:05.039 --> 01:54:07.520 I get it's an older school part of the genre, 2508 01:54:07.640 --> 01:54:09.920 like the older metro games do that, sure, but also 2509 01:54:10.079 --> 01:54:11.840 those are often like right in front of it, and 2510 01:54:12.039 --> 01:54:14.039 maybe I was missing something, boy like man that bench 2511 01:54:14.159 --> 01:54:17.159 is many rooms away from the boss. 2512 01:54:17.159 --> 01:54:19.399 Sometimes I wonder if I was missing a shortcut or something. 2513 01:54:19.399 --> 01:54:22.560 But yes, some of the walk backs were brutal. 2514 01:54:22.359 --> 01:54:24.520 That I'm okay with the boss fight's being hard as 2515 01:54:24.520 --> 01:54:27.039 long as you know super Meat boys celest it and 2516 01:54:27.119 --> 01:54:29.319 just like keep going over and over and over again. 2517 01:54:29.600 --> 01:54:32.359 Yeah, Like there's not a quick like oh start you know, 2518 01:54:32.439 --> 01:54:35.800 restart encounter or something like that from. 2519 01:54:35.880 --> 01:54:38.079 Mating as an option would be a great way to like, 2520 01:54:38.119 --> 01:54:41.119 you know, make it more accessible without Tony don dif right. 2521 01:54:41.199 --> 01:54:43.399 Yeah, it's the same thing. It's just you're you're omitting 2522 01:54:43.439 --> 01:54:44.840 the thing that you've done it million times before. 2523 01:54:44.920 --> 01:54:50.720 Yeah, fantastic. Any other lingering thoughts about Silk sohng before 2524 01:54:50.720 --> 01:54:51.600 we move on board. 2525 01:54:51.880 --> 01:54:53.640 Game of the Year is gonna be fucking nuts this year? 2526 01:54:54.520 --> 01:54:57.279 Like I have like five that I have no idea 2527 01:54:57.319 --> 01:54:59.319 what order I'm going to put in on my personal one. 2528 01:54:59.239 --> 01:55:02.199 Yeah, likes, okay's crazy real quick, before we get to 2529 01:55:02.199 --> 01:55:03.479 the news, what are those five dam. 2530 01:55:04.600 --> 01:55:10.479 Dest stranding Bonanza Expedition thirty three Shanoby this, and like 2531 01:55:10.880 --> 01:55:13.479 Blueprints is like I do think that's maybe going to 2532 01:55:13.560 --> 01:55:15.079 be more in the kind of middle of the list there, 2533 01:55:15.279 --> 01:55:17.119 Like I'll say now there, I don't think Blueprints is 2534 01:55:17.119 --> 01:55:18.520 gonna be my Game of the Year by any rights, 2535 01:55:18.560 --> 01:55:21.159 but it'll it'll do very well. But yeah, those five 2536 01:55:21.279 --> 01:55:22.880 I think are all just kind of jockeying, and I 2537 01:55:22.920 --> 01:55:24.239 have no idea what order they're gonna. 2538 01:55:24.239 --> 01:55:27.479 Speaking about jockeying, y'all still need to play Umamus how 2539 01:55:28.640 --> 01:55:36.039 you're looking for do not. But for me personally, I 2540 01:55:36.039 --> 01:55:39.359 think it's wild how much brain space and uh, it 2541 01:55:39.479 --> 01:55:44.119 kind of reflects on the Bomb twelve. Actually go vote 2542 01:55:44.119 --> 01:55:47.520 on the Bomb twelve right now. Donkey Kong was taking 2543 01:55:47.600 --> 01:55:51.359 up so much of my brain space and ever since. 2544 01:55:51.880 --> 01:55:55.279 Uh kind of like I revisited Expedition thirty three and 2545 01:55:55.359 --> 01:55:57.319 now with Silk Song, and I want to check out 2546 01:55:57.319 --> 01:56:01.840 Shanoby Earnestly. DK is just kind of like falling down 2547 01:56:02.119 --> 01:56:03.199 my personal top two. 2548 01:56:03.960 --> 01:56:06.880 Interesting, I have probably like number two right now. I 2549 01:56:06.920 --> 01:56:08.039 love Bonanza O. 2550 01:56:08.199 --> 01:56:09.199 This is gonna be crazy. 2551 01:56:09.279 --> 01:56:12.920 I love it. Yeah, people are gonna die more. You 2552 01:56:12.960 --> 01:56:14.600 need to play through all the dust stranding too. 2553 01:56:15.079 --> 01:56:16.600 Yes, I will make time. 2554 01:56:17.800 --> 01:56:19.520 You know what, Maybe you all need to play through 2555 01:56:19.520 --> 01:56:20.279 Delta also. 2556 01:56:20.920 --> 01:56:24.439 Oh, I'm hearing that. 2557 01:56:23.039 --> 01:56:24.840 That's gonna be a weird discussion. 2558 01:56:24.359 --> 01:56:25.319 But I want to think. 2559 01:56:25.720 --> 01:56:28.079 Yeah, I've got my thoughts on that. 2560 01:56:28.159 --> 01:56:32.600 But yeah, anyway, Jeff Grubb, But the news Jeff Gru. 2561 01:56:34.319 --> 01:56:37.720 Name is Jeff gru other things on this show? 2562 01:56:38.199 --> 01:56:42.880 Yeah, alright, let's get into it here. The first story 2563 01:56:43.000 --> 01:56:45.359 is still about Silk Song. That patch did come out 2564 01:56:45.399 --> 01:56:49.279 to make the early game easier. Team Cherry released first 2565 01:56:49.359 --> 01:56:52.199 post release patch for Hollow Night Silk Song next were 2566 01:56:52.319 --> 01:56:54.439 releasing it next week. I guess it might be out already, 2567 01:56:54.479 --> 01:56:57.399 I'm not sure, primarily for bug fixes, but also including 2568 01:56:57.439 --> 01:57:01.079 some early game balance adjustments. Yeah, I get it. These 2569 01:57:01.199 --> 01:57:03.840 changes will reduce the difficulty of two early bosses, more 2570 01:57:03.920 --> 01:57:07.760 Wing and Sister Splinter, and decrease damage from a sand 2571 01:57:07.760 --> 01:57:10.600 carver enemies. The patch will also rebalance the in game 2572 01:57:10.640 --> 01:57:15.359 economy by increasing rosary bead rewards from courier deliveries, relics, 2573 01:57:15.399 --> 01:57:19.560 and Psalm cylinders, while slightly lowering bellway and bell bench 2574 01:57:19.680 --> 01:57:23.279 prices so unlocking fast travel unlocking some of those benches 2575 01:57:23.479 --> 01:57:27.159 will be more affordable. Yeah. I'm trying not to update 2576 01:57:27.199 --> 01:57:28.520 my game because I want to get through this early 2577 01:57:28.560 --> 01:57:33.039 part with that in the real way. 2578 01:57:31.920 --> 01:57:33.239 We paid for college. 2579 01:57:33.479 --> 01:57:41.520 Yeah again, again, it is crazy that for mine, I mean, 2580 01:57:41.560 --> 01:57:45.199 are the I guess these aren't like huge sweeping changes, 2581 01:57:45.279 --> 01:57:47.640 but like it is kind of nuts how quick they 2582 01:57:47.680 --> 01:57:48.840 are they. 2583 01:57:49.399 --> 01:57:52.720 I bet these were conversations going on up until launch day, 2584 01:57:52.720 --> 01:57:54.600 and they're like, let's do it, let's see it, we'll 2585 01:57:54.600 --> 01:57:56.039 get the feedback and we'll make adjustments. 2586 01:57:56.319 --> 01:57:56.840 Ready to do it. 2587 01:57:56.880 --> 01:57:59.600 And I'm sure there's plenty of data that tells exact 2588 01:58:00.039 --> 01:58:00.399 I bet. 2589 01:58:00.279 --> 01:58:01.760 They're getting a lot of feedback. 2590 01:58:01.840 --> 01:58:04.159 I mean, you know, the patch is mostly bug fixes 2591 01:58:04.199 --> 01:58:06.199 and these are you know, it's not really a ton 2592 01:58:06.239 --> 01:58:09.319 of this kind of difficulty stuff. I do think the 2593 01:58:09.359 --> 01:58:12.720 economic rebouncing is interesting. Yeah, that coonomy is pretty it's 2594 01:58:12.760 --> 01:58:14.880 it's pretty stingy. You don't get a lot of those 2595 01:58:15.159 --> 01:58:17.800 rosaries and if you have like one unlucky thing where 2596 01:58:17.840 --> 01:58:19.520 you were holding a bunch of them that died and 2597 01:58:19.560 --> 01:58:21.680 lost them, it just can't happen. It's like, oh man, 2598 01:58:21.760 --> 01:58:24.399 it was really hard getting that many of them. Later 2599 01:58:24.479 --> 01:58:27.279 in the game, coming by them is not nearly as difficult, 2600 01:58:27.319 --> 01:58:27.479 I think. 2601 01:58:28.119 --> 01:58:31.199 Hold, I guess I've never thought about this. And forgive 2602 01:58:31.279 --> 01:58:35.119 me if this is covered in the the original Hollynight, 2603 01:58:36.279 --> 01:58:41.960 who are the bugs praying to? There's gods and Jesus, 2604 01:58:41.960 --> 01:58:42.439 since it's. 2605 01:58:43.239 --> 01:58:46.640 We don't necessarily know Jesus unless you beat the games. 2606 01:58:47.079 --> 01:58:50.000 They're going up to the chapel or whatever the citadel, 2607 01:58:50.720 --> 01:58:53.319 and I don't think we know exactly what's going on 2608 01:58:53.359 --> 01:58:53.720 in the city. 2609 01:58:53.960 --> 01:58:56.079 I can tell you it was almost certainly that it 2610 01:58:56.119 --> 01:58:59.199 will not be the Catholic God or Jesus. 2611 01:58:59.560 --> 01:59:03.000 We're all the agnostic bugs that where are those bugs? 2612 01:59:03.199 --> 01:59:03.920 I think you're playing? 2613 01:59:04.000 --> 01:59:05.079 Is you are playing? 2614 01:59:06.760 --> 01:59:07.680 Wait? You're a bug? 2615 01:59:08.159 --> 01:59:08.760 That's a bug? 2616 01:59:09.640 --> 01:59:17.439 Yeah, Jason, Yeah, stylized bugs. Your name's hornet. Oh with 2617 01:59:17.560 --> 01:59:19.479 the with the needle. 2618 01:59:19.520 --> 01:59:22.319 I thought it was just like a very tiny seamstress person. 2619 01:59:22.520 --> 01:59:27.880 I don't know, it's all bugs. They're cute that they're bugs, 2620 01:59:27.880 --> 01:59:28.920 and I think they're good bugs. 2621 01:59:28.920 --> 01:59:31.039 They're cute, they're not gross bugs. 2622 01:59:31.479 --> 01:59:34.359 It's fine. We haven't had a good bug game since 2623 01:59:34.439 --> 01:59:37.199 bugged them finally. Uh. 2624 01:59:37.359 --> 01:59:39.520 You know, it's kind of ironic. This is the kind 2625 01:59:39.560 --> 01:59:42.079 of thing that I think early access is good for, 2626 01:59:42.199 --> 01:59:45.159 because this is definitely the kind of thing that Hades 2627 01:59:45.199 --> 01:59:46.960 too has had a lot of feedback for, and they've 2628 01:59:47.000 --> 01:59:50.760 been able to adjust things and actually think, I guess 2629 01:59:50.760 --> 01:59:53.960 we'll get to jazz second here to blow up. I 2630 01:59:54.000 --> 01:59:56.840 think it's a bit of a bummer to actually this 2631 01:59:57.000 --> 02:00:01.000 is why things like easy modes are good as options 2632 02:00:01.319 --> 02:00:05.760 or like even burying the options mens accessibility options like 2633 02:00:05.840 --> 02:00:08.920 look Ninja Guy and Rage Bound a game that's reviving 2634 02:00:09.119 --> 02:00:14.039 a series, No for anys Hard has health sliders and 2635 02:00:14.159 --> 02:00:17.079 damage sliders, and that's your easy mode. You can adjust that. 2636 02:00:17.760 --> 02:00:19.079 I think it would be good if the game had 2637 02:00:19.199 --> 02:00:21.119 if Silk Song had more of that, so that way 2638 02:00:21.159 --> 02:00:22.880 they don't have to do something like this where they 2639 02:00:22.920 --> 02:00:26.159 just patch everyone's games and some manly people are like, Okay, 2640 02:00:26.199 --> 02:00:28.239 well do I not update? Do I like, I'm g 2641 02:00:28.359 --> 02:00:30.960 og saw download the offline version because some of y'all 2642 02:00:30.960 --> 02:00:33.640 are really enjoying that more difficult experience and I don't 2643 02:00:33.680 --> 02:00:35.840 think they should have to like overwrite that. 2644 02:00:36.600 --> 02:00:38.960 Yeah. I think there's definitely a more elegant way of 2645 02:00:39.079 --> 02:00:41.359 figuring this out, and it's Celest. It's the way Celest 2646 02:00:41.399 --> 02:00:43.520 does stuff, which is what you're describing there exactly. 2647 02:00:45.039 --> 02:00:45.239 Yeah. 2648 02:00:45.279 --> 02:00:47.880 Yeah, you know, like when frum softs like we can't 2649 02:00:47.920 --> 02:00:49.640 do an easy mode, they have a slight of a 2650 02:00:49.720 --> 02:00:52.239 leg to stand on because there's so much multiplayer stuff 2651 02:00:52.239 --> 02:00:53.920 and it's like a, well, we can send people in 2652 02:00:54.520 --> 02:00:58.439 some songs all single player, So yeah, I get like 2653 02:00:59.159 --> 02:00:59.880 I would never play. 2654 02:01:00.079 --> 02:01:01.039 I don't know why I don't. 2655 02:01:00.880 --> 02:01:03.039 Put in an easy mode in or a story mode thing 2656 02:01:03.079 --> 02:01:05.079 for people who just want to play the game that way. 2657 02:01:05.159 --> 02:01:05.479 Whatever. 2658 02:01:05.560 --> 02:01:07.079 I don't care. I'm not going to take it as 2659 02:01:07.119 --> 02:01:08.720 some personal insult. 2660 02:01:08.960 --> 02:01:12.560 Is difficulty and accessibility thing? 2661 02:01:12.880 --> 02:01:14.920 Yeah, well, I mean, like I think what we're saying 2662 02:01:14.960 --> 02:01:16.960 is like instead of an easy mode, the way Celeste 2663 02:01:16.960 --> 02:01:18.479 does it is it doesn't have an easy mode. It 2664 02:01:18.479 --> 02:01:21.000 has so you get that double jump you have, We'll 2665 02:01:21.000 --> 02:01:23.600 give you a triple jump, George quadriple jump or in 2666 02:01:23.720 --> 02:01:24.279 quad jump. 2667 02:01:24.359 --> 02:01:26.960 It's like, yeah, Mario, Like Nintendo did that a lot 2668 02:01:27.199 --> 02:01:28.920 for a while, like the weu Era where it's like, oh, 2669 02:01:28.920 --> 02:01:30.960 you died a bunchiers, like the Magic Wing that shows 2670 02:01:31.039 --> 02:01:33.800 up a level that's almost a pandering way too. 2671 02:01:34.119 --> 02:01:39.359 I think, yeah, I know, like fighting games, you know, 2672 02:01:39.439 --> 02:01:42.079 some on my perspective on it will even have like 2673 02:01:42.159 --> 02:01:45.439 in offline only modes, especially training mode. I believe Tech 2674 02:01:45.479 --> 02:01:48.319 and Aid has this where you just adjust game speed, 2675 02:01:48.720 --> 02:01:51.880 like you're not understanding how to string stuff together to 2676 02:01:51.920 --> 02:01:55.279 land combos, just turn the speed down while you're playing 2677 02:01:55.279 --> 02:01:57.159 offline and learning this stuff, and then you can go 2678 02:01:57.159 --> 02:01:58.880 into online matches and actually like try to do a 2679 02:01:58.880 --> 02:02:01.840 little bit faster and I think not everything needs to 2680 02:02:01.840 --> 02:02:04.960 be as in depth as that. Sometimes it can just 2681 02:02:05.000 --> 02:02:07.199 be an easy mode where yeah, we just knocked every 2682 02:02:07.520 --> 02:02:10.000 you know, everyone's health down fifty percent, your damage off 2683 02:02:10.039 --> 02:02:12.560 fifty percent, and that's what they do. Just you know, 2684 02:02:12.920 --> 02:02:14.560 having something like that is good. 2685 02:02:14.800 --> 02:02:17.560 Yeah, because I asked that question with the with the 2686 02:02:17.600 --> 02:02:21.359 dance with the answer I wanted was like, yes, right, 2687 02:02:21.760 --> 02:02:23.279 it is inaccessibility. 2688 02:02:23.359 --> 02:02:26.000 Yeah, it would be so easy for them to make 2689 02:02:26.039 --> 02:02:29.560 an easy mode that was just damage values, right, you take, 2690 02:02:29.640 --> 02:02:32.199 you take less damage and deal more damage there, and. 2691 02:02:32.199 --> 02:02:34.359 Then that's kind of like what the change that they 2692 02:02:34.399 --> 02:02:35.880 made here is one of the things that the bosses 2693 02:02:35.920 --> 02:02:38.920 were doing early on is a double damage. So taking 2694 02:02:38.920 --> 02:02:41.479 one pit of damage, sure it was doing double and 2695 02:02:41.520 --> 02:02:43.520 people were like, holy shit, I wasn't expecting that. And 2696 02:02:43.520 --> 02:02:46.119 that's like, now my guy's melting and I'm getting hit 2697 02:02:46.159 --> 02:02:47.840 by that. So I'm gonna go install this mod that 2698 02:02:47.920 --> 02:02:49.159 gets rid of that and a lot that's one of 2699 02:02:49.199 --> 02:02:52.520 the most popular mods now, it's just the game. 2700 02:02:52.720 --> 02:02:55.319 I like how Death Stranding two does this where you 2701 02:02:55.399 --> 02:02:57.680 are having trouble with a boss, you just go to 2702 02:02:57.720 --> 02:02:59.920 the menu, like, no, I'm gonna pretend that I beat 2703 02:03:03.520 --> 02:03:05.840 that Crab Souls like game. 2704 02:03:06.199 --> 02:03:09.479 You're just shut Yeah. 2705 02:03:10.920 --> 02:03:14.560 You pointed a gun. Sure, But what I was trying 2706 02:03:14.600 --> 02:03:16.640 to say earlier, when Sean, when you bring up early 2707 02:03:16.680 --> 02:03:20.199 access in Hades, Dan, I know that you tend to 2708 02:03:20.239 --> 02:03:24.319 avoid a game until it is fully out out Holy Ship. Guys, 2709 02:03:24.359 --> 02:03:26.000 can't wait for you all to check out Hades too. 2710 02:03:26.199 --> 02:03:26.760 That gave. 2711 02:03:28.079 --> 02:03:30.159 Ye you talk about game of the Year, Dan, you're 2712 02:03:30.199 --> 02:03:31.960 going to come out this year schedule? 2713 02:03:32.439 --> 02:03:35.159 Honestly, honestly, I won't be surprised if it's at this 2714 02:03:35.239 --> 02:03:36.279 Nintendo Direct this week. 2715 02:03:36.359 --> 02:03:36.479 Yo. 2716 02:03:36.640 --> 02:03:38.279 It's really happening, the. 2717 02:03:38.159 --> 02:03:42.840 Progress they made with that game, Holy fucking Ship. Okay 2718 02:03:43.279 --> 02:03:43.800 this year? 2719 02:03:44.399 --> 02:03:44.479 Ye. 2720 02:03:44.960 --> 02:03:47.000 Did they have a date? No, but I think we 2721 02:03:47.079 --> 02:03:48.079 make it the date. But like. 2722 02:03:49.560 --> 02:03:51.640 Especially drop, so maybe. 2723 02:03:52.479 --> 02:03:54.399 It could very easily be like you were playing Silk 2724 02:03:54.439 --> 02:03:55.399 Song into Hades too. 2725 02:03:55.399 --> 02:03:59.359 Maybe second indie game has hit the switch to. 2726 02:04:00.439 --> 02:04:02.319 Everybody else is still lays there in the game by 2727 02:04:02.359 --> 02:04:03.000 another month. 2728 02:04:03.159 --> 02:04:09.439 Now, that's wild, that's say that is exciting. All right, Well, 2729 02:04:09.439 --> 02:04:12.359 we'll see what happens with that. I think, you know, 2730 02:04:12.720 --> 02:04:15.520 the conversation will be ongoing and the common thing will be, 2731 02:04:15.640 --> 02:04:18.000 you know, this is the game intended by the developer. 2732 02:04:18.079 --> 02:04:20.359 But they just made changes to their own difficulties, so 2733 02:04:21.159 --> 02:04:23.359 we know that's something that can change and they'll be 2734 02:04:23.439 --> 02:04:25.199 won in that feedback. And they want their game to 2735 02:04:25.239 --> 02:04:26.800 be a have a certain feeling to it, and that's 2736 02:04:26.800 --> 02:04:29.000 hard to dial that stuff in. I bet there will 2737 02:04:29.039 --> 02:04:31.000 be more of these adjustments going forward. 2738 02:04:31.600 --> 02:04:34.119 PlayStation six is that a number? Is that a name? You? 2739 02:04:34.119 --> 02:04:36.880 Doys want to hear you. I'm excited to hear PlayStation six. 2740 02:04:37.000 --> 02:04:37.720 I am. 2741 02:04:38.039 --> 02:04:38.520 I'm ready. 2742 02:04:38.720 --> 02:04:41.119 I love hearing crazy shit all the time. 2743 02:04:42.119 --> 02:04:44.199 It's like it's like I both want to hear it 2744 02:04:44.239 --> 02:04:46.399 because the Polation five is underwhelming, and don't want to 2745 02:04:46.399 --> 02:04:48.399 hear it because the PlayStation five is underwhelming. 2746 02:04:49.000 --> 02:04:50.560 Dan, are you serious? You're like ready for it? 2747 02:04:50.600 --> 02:04:52.680 You said, I just like getting new stuff. 2748 02:04:52.439 --> 02:04:54.760 And one with the you're the only one with the 2749 02:04:54.760 --> 02:04:57.000 PlayStation five Pro and you're like, oh now I'm ready 2750 02:04:57.000 --> 02:04:57.960 for PlayStation. 2751 02:04:59.680 --> 02:05:01.039 Yeah. 2752 02:05:01.359 --> 02:05:02.279 I just like new stuff. 2753 02:05:02.399 --> 02:05:06.159 I mean that is the only thing that is like 2754 02:05:06.239 --> 02:05:10.680 this tangible advantage that like physical consoles possess the new 2755 02:05:10.720 --> 02:05:12.600 shiny toy and the feeling. 2756 02:05:14.199 --> 02:05:14.720 Could be real. 2757 02:05:14.840 --> 02:05:18.319 Yeah, all that matters. It's fantasy. It's it's it's right. 2758 02:05:18.399 --> 02:05:21.159 It's just fantasy. It's just a vibe that it's. 2759 02:05:21.000 --> 02:05:22.960 A lot of it. You're right, a lot of its packaging, right, 2760 02:05:23.039 --> 02:05:26.399 Like we want the O S, the UI to feel 2761 02:05:26.439 --> 02:05:28.359 different because then that makes it feel like it's new. 2762 02:05:28.600 --> 02:05:32.439 Who cares if it's better or worse different? 2763 02:05:32.600 --> 02:05:35.439 Yeah, that's what with the switch to was like, yeah, 2764 02:05:35.439 --> 02:05:37.000 this U I should be different. So I feel like 2765 02:05:37.039 --> 02:05:37.439 it's more. 2766 02:05:37.359 --> 02:05:40.039 Of that too. It's just like, yeah, this is all 2767 02:05:40.079 --> 02:05:41.359 this all works well, but it's like. 2768 02:05:42.000 --> 02:05:43.920 It's a mental thing and it's like they could make 2769 02:05:43.960 --> 02:05:45.560 it worse, but if they made it different, we would 2770 02:05:45.600 --> 02:05:47.680 be like, Okay, well I see where the work went 2771 02:05:47.720 --> 02:05:49.199 into this, and it's so silly. 2772 02:05:49.239 --> 02:05:51.319 But this is going to feel like a smaller jump 2773 02:05:51.319 --> 02:05:53.079 than the PS five Though ps PS five is a 2774 02:05:53.119 --> 02:05:55.560 good system, S X is just going to be accentia 2775 02:05:55.560 --> 02:05:57.960 of that. PS four was not a good system so 2776 02:05:58.079 --> 02:05:59.239 far felt like a huge and I. 2777 02:05:59.199 --> 02:06:02.279 Think I think it's even more like fundamental to their 2778 02:06:02.319 --> 02:06:04.520 strategy this time, that it will feel like less of 2779 02:06:04.560 --> 02:06:07.199 a jump, because why would they want it to feel 2780 02:06:07.199 --> 02:06:08.800 like more of a jump, so they have to spend 2781 02:06:08.920 --> 02:06:11.880 more money on video games to take even longer to produce. 2782 02:06:12.159 --> 02:06:14.159 I think this is this next generation will very much 2783 02:06:14.159 --> 02:06:17.359 be set up around the idea of let's sell most 2784 02:06:17.399 --> 02:06:20.239 people a PS five. Again, we don't have to call it. 2785 02:06:20.239 --> 02:06:20.880 A PS five. 2786 02:06:20.960 --> 02:06:24.279 It'll be called PS six S and it'll be cheaper, 2787 02:06:24.319 --> 02:06:27.600 but not that cheap. There'll be five hundred dollars, but 2788 02:06:27.680 --> 02:06:30.000 it's going to play all the bullshit that they want. 2789 02:06:30.079 --> 02:06:32.000 And then we'll have a higher one for all of 2790 02:06:32.000 --> 02:06:34.039 our freaks who spend all the money on all our 2791 02:06:34.039 --> 02:06:37.079 stuff no matter what. That'll be there too, and but 2792 02:06:37.159 --> 02:06:38.880 we're going to focus on the one that's more like 2793 02:06:38.880 --> 02:06:40.600 a PS five because we expect the PS five to 2794 02:06:40.640 --> 02:06:42.720 stick around for another ten years. 2795 02:06:43.279 --> 02:06:44.079 That's the strategy. 2796 02:06:44.199 --> 02:06:46.239 We've hit the boy oft dimishing returns, where the next 2797 02:06:46.239 --> 02:06:48.199 console is going to have better rate racing. You know, 2798 02:06:48.279 --> 02:06:51.920 I mentioned that's a weaker point of the current systems. 2799 02:06:51.960 --> 02:06:53.680 They're just going to get better at doing that and 2800 02:06:53.800 --> 02:06:56.760 up scaling and everything stuff. It's going to backslide kind of. 2801 02:06:56.800 --> 02:06:58.960 I think, Kim, like a lot of psfis pro stuff 2802 02:06:59.039 --> 02:07:00.880 is going to be in the P six by default, 2803 02:07:00.920 --> 02:07:02.920 and that'll be cool. But man, tell you what, this 2804 02:07:02.960 --> 02:07:06.560 comes out twenty twenty seven, two years. That's a generation 2805 02:07:06.720 --> 02:07:08.520 right there, folks, that's seven years. 2806 02:07:09.319 --> 02:07:10.199 It doesn't feel like it. 2807 02:07:10.840 --> 02:07:13.399 That's why I think it's all about like it's similar 2808 02:07:13.439 --> 02:07:16.279 to phones, where now it's just like the feature, like, 2809 02:07:16.319 --> 02:07:18.199 what's the feature that you can only get? 2810 02:07:18.279 --> 02:07:20.560 Yeah, it's going to be the game camera is on 2811 02:07:20.600 --> 02:07:22.239 these things, right, so they just can't talk about many 2812 02:07:22.239 --> 02:07:24.680 megapixels or literally. 2813 02:07:24.800 --> 02:07:27.199 Apples going on right now? Yeah, right now, And I'm 2814 02:07:27.199 --> 02:07:29.359 gonna buy one and. 2815 02:07:28.840 --> 02:07:32.479 Something button or whatever that does something random. 2816 02:07:33.159 --> 02:07:35.159 They got rid of the buttons. What are you saying. 2817 02:07:36.159 --> 02:07:38.000 Now now they're back. You missed the buttons. 2818 02:07:38.000 --> 02:07:39.520 They're back. Now they're got to get because those but 2819 02:07:39.720 --> 02:07:40.880 were ship actually. 2820 02:07:42.000 --> 02:07:44.279 Phones now small phones, good phone. 2821 02:07:46.079 --> 02:07:47.399 Still expect the big. 2822 02:07:47.920 --> 02:07:50.920 Big flash you cowards there. I'll buy your PlayStation six 2823 02:07:51.000 --> 02:07:55.039 if you get me disk drive. Jeff, thank you. Yes. 2824 02:07:55.239 --> 02:07:58.359 So this PlayStation six is planned to have a detachable 2825 02:07:58.359 --> 02:08:01.319 disk drive. It sounds like it might even use the 2826 02:08:01.359 --> 02:08:05.159 PlayStation five detachable disc drive at the very least. It's 2827 02:08:05.159 --> 02:08:08.119 gonna have its own. But why wouldn't it just be 2828 02:08:08.159 --> 02:08:11.920 the same thing Because there's not new optical media, which 2829 02:08:12.000 --> 02:08:14.439 is I think kind of a sign of Okay, when 2830 02:08:14.439 --> 02:08:16.560 this thing does come out, it's not Sony trying to sell. 2831 02:08:16.479 --> 02:08:18.039 Us yet a new version of the Blu Ray. 2832 02:08:18.119 --> 02:08:20.000 It is still that old version of the of the 2833 02:08:20.039 --> 02:08:22.000 you know, Blu Ray four K or what however they 2834 02:08:22.039 --> 02:08:25.479 phrase it. But they will continue to sell you that 2835 02:08:25.520 --> 02:08:27.800 because they think they see that there is enough of 2836 02:08:27.800 --> 02:08:29.640 the audience and still wants physical They don't want to 2837 02:08:29.680 --> 02:08:32.520 leave that out. But the fact that they did set 2838 02:08:32.520 --> 02:08:34.680 this up at the back half of this generation of 2839 02:08:35.000 --> 02:08:36.800 we're not going to include the drive. It'll be a 2840 02:08:36.840 --> 02:08:39.479 separate thing you can attach, maybe you could plug it in. 2841 02:08:39.520 --> 02:08:41.760 Maybe it does become part of the system, but it 2842 02:08:41.800 --> 02:08:44.960 will be a separate purchase. We're not trying to focus 2843 02:08:44.960 --> 02:08:47.960 on that. We're focused on digital that they have primed 2844 02:08:47.960 --> 02:08:51.560 the generation to be to work that way. They will 2845 02:08:51.560 --> 02:08:54.520 take advantage of that by saving money and charging more 2846 02:08:54.560 --> 02:08:57.079 for digital games. So yeah, not too surprised by that. 2847 02:08:57.119 --> 02:08:58.760 But I don't know when you guys get your PS six, 2848 02:08:58.880 --> 02:09:00.800 are you gonna get one with the dis drive. I 2849 02:09:00.840 --> 02:09:02.159 guess we just do it to be safe. 2850 02:09:02.399 --> 02:09:03.880 I do. I do a lot of like, you know, 2851 02:09:04.039 --> 02:09:06.800 four K Blu Rays and stuff like that. I will, yeah, 2852 02:09:06.880 --> 02:09:08.880 I saw, usually my PS five is what I use 2853 02:09:09.039 --> 02:09:10.920 as my Blu Ray player anyway. 2854 02:09:10.720 --> 02:09:13.479 Right, I saw my PS four games, you know, some 2855 02:09:13.600 --> 02:09:16.479 that are still PS four exclusive, and so i'll i'll 2856 02:09:16.479 --> 02:09:19.000 want the option for discrive at least to play those, 2857 02:09:19.039 --> 02:09:21.920 even if I am buying games digitally or getting codes 2858 02:09:22.000 --> 02:09:22.319 or whatever. 2859 02:09:22.840 --> 02:09:25.720 Yeah, I see myself. You know, I just keep buying, 2860 02:09:25.720 --> 02:09:27.880 buying more and more of my games digitally, especially for 2861 02:09:28.520 --> 02:09:31.760 like these consoles. I've you know, resigned myself the fact 2862 02:09:31.760 --> 02:09:34.199 that I'm never going to have some impressive Xbox Series 2863 02:09:34.319 --> 02:09:37.920 X or Polay Station five physical library, right And you know, 2864 02:09:38.039 --> 02:09:39.479 as long as they gave me the option, I am 2865 02:09:39.520 --> 02:09:41.800 probably gonna take it just to be safe. But I 2866 02:09:41.840 --> 02:09:43.920 don't expect that option to be around forever. 2867 02:09:44.399 --> 02:09:48.399 I don't want to fine the reporter here. 2868 02:09:48.439 --> 02:09:50.760 I did say that the PS five detachable disk drive 2869 02:09:51.159 --> 02:09:54.640 met all of Sony's internal expectations and surpassed them, so 2870 02:09:55.199 --> 02:09:58.199 the thing was selling. So I think this strategy is 2871 02:09:58.199 --> 02:10:02.039 working as far as Sony is concerned. Speaking of Sony 2872 02:10:02.039 --> 02:10:05.359 and their consoles, the PS five Digital Edition is going 2873 02:10:05.399 --> 02:10:08.439 to get kind of a quiet downgrade in Europe. They 2874 02:10:08.439 --> 02:10:11.119 are going to bring it from one terabyte of internal 2875 02:10:11.199 --> 02:10:13.920 SSD storage down to eight hundred and twenty five gigabytes, 2876 02:10:14.119 --> 02:10:17.520 which is around what the PlayStation five launched with originally, 2877 02:10:17.520 --> 02:10:20.359 and as that is the exact launch people were saying 2878 02:10:20.359 --> 02:10:21.920 eight sixty five, I thought it was a twenty five, 2879 02:10:21.960 --> 02:10:24.359 thank you. So they are going back to the launch 2880 02:10:24.560 --> 02:10:28.920 storage solution, so about six hundred ish gigabytes of free 2881 02:10:28.960 --> 02:10:32.600 space in there. This is very much about shrink flation. 2882 02:10:32.760 --> 02:10:36.159 It's about reducing costs so they don't have to raise 2883 02:10:36.199 --> 02:10:41.439 the price yet. Again, why storage especially is expensive, There's 2884 02:10:41.439 --> 02:10:44.680 a million reasons for that. But yeah, they are using 2885 02:10:44.720 --> 02:10:49.920 the more expensive MVME GIN for you know, Gin for SSDs. 2886 02:10:50.079 --> 02:10:52.439 Those could be expensive, but one terabyt you would figure 2887 02:10:52.439 --> 02:10:54.119 it by now they'd be able to make that work. 2888 02:10:54.640 --> 02:10:55.159 I guess not. 2889 02:10:55.840 --> 02:10:58.840 It's the proprietary tech they're using this. They're not just 2890 02:10:58.960 --> 02:11:01.439 using an off the shelf drive. They are using their own, 2891 02:11:01.560 --> 02:11:04.640 very specific stuff that makes the Interel stores the fastest 2892 02:11:04.720 --> 02:11:08.520 SSD you can get in any console. And what's I 2893 02:11:09.119 --> 02:11:11.319 didn't follow this super closely, but I did hear that 2894 02:11:11.359 --> 02:11:13.880 apparently when they went to eight twenty five up to 2895 02:11:13.960 --> 02:11:16.439 one terabyte, they did so just by like adding a 2896 02:11:16.640 --> 02:11:20.840 chip or two storage And which is weird because, like 2897 02:11:20.880 --> 02:11:24.840 I thought, eight twenty five existed because they need some mathematical. 2898 02:11:24.319 --> 02:11:26.560 If like fit into the number of PCI E lanes 2899 02:11:26.760 --> 02:11:29.079 yes connected with the CPU, not to get two in 2900 02:11:29.079 --> 02:11:31.399 the weeds. But like Mark Serny is like, this is 2901 02:11:31.479 --> 02:11:34.079 perfectly divisible if it's in there. So when they went 2902 02:11:34.159 --> 02:11:36.359 up to one terabyte, the understanding was maybe they had 2903 02:11:36.399 --> 02:11:39.600 to add another controller chip in there to handle that 2904 02:11:39.640 --> 02:11:42.000 and make it work fewer PCI lanes. 2905 02:11:42.079 --> 02:11:45.560 Seemingly they're just taking out what they previously add to 2906 02:11:45.640 --> 02:11:48.039 give consoles one terabyte, which is how they're going to 2907 02:11:48.119 --> 02:11:48.680 save costs. 2908 02:11:48.960 --> 02:11:49.199 Yep. 2909 02:11:50.000 --> 02:11:53.279 I have a question for the group here, how often 2910 02:11:53.439 --> 02:11:56.560 in a console's life cycle does it seem like it 2911 02:11:56.600 --> 02:12:01.439 becomes more expensive and the initial good parts are taken out. 2912 02:12:01.720 --> 02:12:08.279 So more expensive is never? We have gotten worst versions 2913 02:12:08.319 --> 02:12:13.159 of consoles before three Backwards compatibility Genesis three like a 2914 02:12:13.159 --> 02:12:15.720 lot of like older like the we that took out 2915 02:12:15.880 --> 02:12:18.359 the Canadian Wei, the Red one took out Wi Fi 2916 02:12:18.399 --> 02:12:19.039 and stuff like that. 2917 02:12:23.399 --> 02:12:25.920 Is a good phrase, even just the regular we got 2918 02:12:26.119 --> 02:12:28.199 backwards compability to So this does happen. 2919 02:12:28.119 --> 02:12:32.159 Yeah, but all those situations just somehow still feel different 2920 02:12:32.159 --> 02:12:34.560 for this where it's like PS five is still the 2921 02:12:34.640 --> 02:12:37.800 console and like people are supposed to still be buying 2922 02:12:37.840 --> 02:12:40.479 this thing. Uh, and you know when you do a revision, 2923 02:12:40.520 --> 02:12:42.600 that's worse. Usually you do a full revision and you 2924 02:12:42.880 --> 02:12:45.680 like make it even slimmer, and you use a lot 2925 02:12:45.720 --> 02:12:48.359 of cheap components. This just feels like trying to continue 2926 02:12:48.359 --> 02:12:51.199 to make this thing work when it should be breaking 2927 02:12:51.239 --> 02:12:52.159 in the cash because. 2928 02:12:52.000 --> 02:12:53.439 It should be cheaper to produce than ever. 2929 02:12:53.680 --> 02:12:54.920 That's just not happening though. 2930 02:12:55.039 --> 02:12:57.520 So I think it feels differently because it's not like, 2931 02:12:57.600 --> 02:12:58.840 you know, they would never do this so it would 2932 02:12:58.840 --> 02:13:01.199 be insane. But just for example, if they drop PS 2933 02:13:01.239 --> 02:13:03.720 four backwards compatibility and they're like, yeah, but now it's 2934 02:13:03.720 --> 02:13:06.279 the PS five Super slim, it's like one hundred dollars cheaper. 2935 02:13:06.520 --> 02:13:10.359 It's not that it's the exact same console with everything's 2936 02:13:10.520 --> 02:13:13.479 just a little bit worse as time goes on, and 2937 02:13:13.520 --> 02:13:15.920 then it's going up in price. It just feels like 2938 02:13:15.920 --> 02:13:18.439 a kickling teeth to like, hey, you didn't get PS 2939 02:13:18.479 --> 02:13:20.880 five yet you're getting a worse deal. 2940 02:13:20.680 --> 02:13:23.600 No, right, and that's uh. That will also play unto 2941 02:13:23.640 --> 02:13:25.600 their favor with the PS six. Right when the PS 2942 02:13:25.640 --> 02:13:27.760 six launches, you're one of the most common things you're 2943 02:13:27.800 --> 02:13:29.720 going to hear is you should get it now because 2944 02:13:29.720 --> 02:13:30.800 it's going to get more reports. 2945 02:13:32.319 --> 02:13:38.000 Okay, so so bad, feels so bad. 2946 02:13:38.079 --> 02:13:40.600 Yep, and it's but it's going to work for them 2947 02:13:40.640 --> 02:13:42.439 at least with that audience that shows up in the 2948 02:13:42.439 --> 02:13:43.720 first year or two of a console. 2949 02:13:43.920 --> 02:13:45.800 Will I even have a game to play on a 2950 02:13:45.840 --> 02:13:52.479 PS six Watch Part two Faster eight game? Maybe? 2951 02:13:53.399 --> 02:13:58.560 Now, all right, let's keep going here. Nintendo's latest Switch 2952 02:13:58.600 --> 02:14:02.399 Online news could have just confirmed a leak. Basically, they 2953 02:14:02.439 --> 02:14:04.560 are what was the game that they're adding here? For 2954 02:14:04.720 --> 02:14:11.359 sixty Future sixty Yeah, I was thinking a Trespasser because 2955 02:14:11.399 --> 02:14:14.079 girls and tattoos and stuff like that. Yeah, but for 2956 02:14:14.159 --> 02:14:17.439 sac and sixty four. That was part of an image 2957 02:14:17.880 --> 02:14:21.039 that was in a Nintendo Update video on YouTube about 2958 02:14:21.159 --> 02:14:24.920 Nintendo Switch Online, and people were seeing a blurry image 2959 02:14:25.079 --> 02:14:27.239 of game boxes and one of those games was for 2960 02:14:27.319 --> 02:14:28.960 Sake and sixty four. There was a bunch of other 2961 02:14:29.000 --> 02:14:32.079 games in there, including Donkey Kong sixty four, Glover Super 2962 02:14:32.119 --> 02:14:36.079 Smash bro Bros. Uh Scars, and then for Saken sixty four. 2963 02:14:36.399 --> 02:14:39.039 So now that Forsaken is confirmed, people are thinking, hey, 2964 02:14:39.479 --> 02:14:41.399 all those other ones are going to happen. Yeah, and 2965 02:14:41.520 --> 02:14:43.079 I think that is probably correct. 2966 02:14:43.199 --> 02:14:45.640 I love to seeing the like internet sleuthing going on 2967 02:14:45.720 --> 02:14:48.039 with it because it's like, yeah, this sometimes it seems 2968 02:14:48.039 --> 02:14:50.279 like a stretch. This one. It's like I've seen these 2969 02:14:50.319 --> 02:14:52.159 boxes a lot, and it looks like those boxes. 2970 02:14:52.239 --> 02:14:54.880 Yeah, the only like possible thing could have been like, 2971 02:14:54.960 --> 02:14:56.479 oh they were those games were just in there for 2972 02:14:56.600 --> 02:15:00.560 Nintendo testing place and they are real. But otherwise it's 2973 02:15:00.680 --> 02:15:02.479 they're gonna happen because they Why would they do the 2974 02:15:02.520 --> 02:15:04.239 work of putting that stuff in there unless they were 2975 02:15:04.279 --> 02:15:06.279 intending to release those things would be one thing. 2976 02:15:06.319 --> 02:15:08.359 I was like, oh, Monkey Kong sixty four is real. 2977 02:15:08.399 --> 02:15:10.079 It's like, well, that doesn't mean all these are. But 2978 02:15:10.159 --> 02:15:12.000 the fact that we got for sake in sixty four, 2979 02:15:12.039 --> 02:15:14.119 which is one of the weirder ones in there, it's like. 2980 02:15:14.119 --> 02:15:18.600 Wow, we got that one, right. I never heard of Forsaken? Yeah? 2981 02:15:18.960 --> 02:15:19.119 Did you? 2982 02:15:19.319 --> 02:15:20.960 No one play everyone knows the box art? 2983 02:15:21.039 --> 02:15:21.399 Yeah? 2984 02:15:22.560 --> 02:15:24.880 You ever played Descent back in the day. I like 2985 02:15:25.000 --> 02:15:28.720 it's basically it's like, uh, it's like Quake, but with 2986 02:15:28.880 --> 02:15:30.520 three sixty degrees of movement you fly. 2987 02:15:31.239 --> 02:15:34.239 It's like that, Oh okay, somebody Chad saying it's the 2988 02:15:34.319 --> 02:15:36.720 Kate Winsley game. I think everyone thought that she really 2989 02:15:36.760 --> 02:15:37.079 looked like. 2990 02:15:38.319 --> 02:15:41.640 Yeah, I like, Mike going, did you play Descent back 2991 02:15:41.680 --> 02:15:43.560 in the day when you were three years old? 2992 02:15:44.600 --> 02:15:47.039 I mean people were talking about the Scent for decades, right, 2993 02:15:48.720 --> 02:15:49.399 we were talking. 2994 02:15:49.199 --> 02:15:50.439 About much back then, Michael. 2995 02:15:50.479 --> 02:15:54.079 Yeah, it is definitely like a sixty four, like all 2996 02:15:54.159 --> 02:15:56.279 time rental game for me. Yes, that's when I. 2997 02:15:56.399 --> 02:15:58.560 Really there's gonna be multiplayer in this. We should we 2998 02:15:58.600 --> 02:16:00.640 should check out for Saken sixty for sure. 2999 02:16:00.720 --> 02:16:05.159 Hell yeah, all right. Sega is Tokyo Game Show lineup 3000 02:16:05.199 --> 02:16:08.560 teases four mystery titles. Sega plans to exhibit four mystery 3001 02:16:08.600 --> 02:16:11.560 titles in Tokyo Game Show in addition to games like 3002 02:16:11.680 --> 02:16:15.560 Sonic Racing, Cross Worlds, A Virtual Fighter five Revo, Persona 3003 02:16:15.640 --> 02:16:18.520 three Reload, and Persona five The Phantom X. Then they 3004 02:16:18.800 --> 02:16:21.880 had those games and a grid with four blank slots 3005 02:16:21.880 --> 02:16:24.239 that said, hey, there will be four other games. I 3006 02:16:24.319 --> 02:16:26.279 think it's safe to assume there probably will be other 3007 02:16:26.520 --> 02:16:30.239 RGG stuff, whether that's Project Century, which I forget what 3008 02:16:30.279 --> 02:16:35.639 it's called now, or the Stranger is wait, no, that's 3009 02:16:35.680 --> 02:16:42.719 a that's a Will had Gate. 3010 02:16:42.879 --> 02:16:43.799 Is it stranger than fiction? 3011 02:16:43.959 --> 02:16:44.639 Okay? Maybe? 3012 02:16:45.799 --> 02:16:46.200 Either way? 3013 02:16:46.319 --> 02:16:48.639 I don't know what are you guys hoping for what 3014 02:16:48.719 --> 02:16:49.879 do you expecting. 3015 02:16:51.200 --> 02:16:53.920 It? Strange wasn't there like a leak or there was 3016 02:16:53.959 --> 02:16:56.639 like an initiative that Sega was like, hey, we want 3017 02:16:56.680 --> 02:16:58.639 to bring back these games. And Crazy tax he was 3018 02:16:58.680 --> 02:17:03.840 one of those. Yeah, super Game the first, the first 3019 02:17:03.879 --> 02:17:06.840 one of those. Yes, Crazy Taxi DoD they say like jet. 3020 02:17:06.719 --> 02:17:09.840 Rynd Radio and Crazy Taxi is supposed to be like 3021 02:17:09.920 --> 02:17:12.440 really big found out one off. 3022 02:17:12.440 --> 02:17:17.319 It's Victor Man, I remember Possible they did this. It 3023 02:17:17.440 --> 02:17:19.239 was like two Game Awards ago. 3024 02:17:19.520 --> 02:17:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was like a montage like wait 3025 02:17:22.000 --> 02:17:24.159 what crazy There was a bunch of those we still 3026 02:17:24.200 --> 02:17:26.159 do something Golden Acts. 3027 02:17:26.239 --> 02:17:28.840 There was another Streets of Rage that was actually a 3028 02:17:28.920 --> 02:17:31.920 part of that. So yeah, there are more. I bet 3029 02:17:31.959 --> 02:17:34.040 we're gonna at least hear from one or two of those, 3030 02:17:34.159 --> 02:17:37.280 especially now it seems like Shanoby's doing well. I assume, right, 3031 02:17:37.280 --> 02:17:38.520 it's a good start to that whole thing. 3032 02:17:39.040 --> 02:17:42.120 Yeah, we know Virtue Fighter is going to be one 3033 02:17:42.159 --> 02:17:44.680 of them, the new one. But they're also doing Is 3034 02:17:44.719 --> 02:17:48.799 this separate from the RGG like direct thing that they announced. 3035 02:17:48.479 --> 02:17:51.000 Yeah, this is this would just be their presence at 3036 02:17:51.120 --> 02:17:55.000 Tokyo Game Show. Although I bet RGG stuff will blend 3037 02:17:55.079 --> 02:17:55.360 into this. 3038 02:17:55.719 --> 02:17:55.879 Yeah. 3039 02:17:55.959 --> 02:17:59.079 So maybe it is like Stranger than Heaven and Virtual 3040 02:17:59.200 --> 02:18:03.319 Fighter and and maybe it is one of those unannounced sorry, 3041 02:18:04.159 --> 02:18:06.200 one of those announced retro revivals. 3042 02:18:09.200 --> 02:18:12.760 What about Persona for remake? Have we gotten that confirmed? 3043 02:18:12.959 --> 02:18:13.440 I can't. 3044 02:18:14.799 --> 02:18:17.079 Show that the revival. 3045 02:18:17.559 --> 02:18:18.879 Yeah, that one leaked a bunch of times, so I 3046 02:18:18.920 --> 02:18:19.479 can't remember. 3047 02:18:20.360 --> 02:18:23.200 Okay, revealed. I don't think we're going to see anything 3048 02:18:23.440 --> 02:18:24.959 more of that yet. 3049 02:18:25.079 --> 02:18:28.319 Yeah, okay, yeah, maybe Echo Echo the Dolphins back. 3050 02:18:28.879 --> 02:18:32.200 Yeah, I think independent of the second stuff. That guy 3051 02:18:32.280 --> 02:18:34.959 said something about bringing Echo pack. I can't remember, Yes 3052 02:18:35.040 --> 02:18:36.319 he did. I don't believe it. 3053 02:18:36.959 --> 02:18:40.440 No, that was definitely like just what old men say sometimes. 3054 02:18:40.799 --> 02:18:47.920 I remembering off about Echo the Real Quick, the announced 3055 02:18:47.959 --> 02:18:49.479 classic revival from Sega. 3056 02:18:49.639 --> 02:18:53.000 It is crazy Taxi jet Set Radio, Golden Axe, Shanobi, 3057 02:18:53.159 --> 02:18:55.840 Art of Vengeance, and Streets of Rage. There were some 3058 02:18:56.040 --> 02:18:57.280 other ones rumored. 3059 02:18:59.200 --> 02:19:00.719 Was one of the rumored one for a little bit, right, 3060 02:19:01.120 --> 02:19:03.600 that's not really part of this initiative, per se Yeah, 3061 02:19:03.600 --> 02:19:04.520 it feels a little bit different. 3062 02:19:04.639 --> 02:19:08.360 It feels like he's like another playing game. Yeah, all right, 3063 02:19:08.520 --> 02:19:12.239 let's see here, we have a story to tell, says 3064 02:19:12.319 --> 02:19:15.440 Machine Games about Wolfenstein and with the idea of they 3065 02:19:15.479 --> 02:19:18.600 need to finish the trilogy. That's according to Machine Games 3066 02:19:18.680 --> 02:19:22.280 studio head Jerk Gustavsen, who has stated that the developer 3067 02:19:22.399 --> 02:19:24.680 is not finished with the Wolfenstein story and they did 3068 02:19:24.799 --> 02:19:26.680 one at least at one point, intend to make a 3069 02:19:26.760 --> 02:19:30.319 third entry in the series. He made it sound very 3070 02:19:30.399 --> 02:19:32.520 open ended and made it sound like it's something they 3071 02:19:32.920 --> 02:19:34.799 plan to get back to. But I don't know if 3072 02:19:34.799 --> 02:19:38.520 there's like hard concrete plans. But he's like, it was 3073 02:19:38.639 --> 02:19:41.040 always meant to be a trilogy and we want to 3074 02:19:41.079 --> 02:19:43.920 finish that now. I'm a huge fan of these games. 3075 02:19:44.040 --> 02:19:46.440 I hope they can get back. I had accepted the 3076 02:19:46.520 --> 02:19:49.760 fate that they weren't going to. This has renewed my hope. 3077 02:19:50.000 --> 02:19:52.040 But is this does is this another thing developers just 3078 02:19:52.239 --> 02:19:54.200 say when now they don't really know if they're going. 3079 02:19:54.159 --> 02:19:54.440 To do it. 3080 02:19:54.559 --> 02:19:56.799 I was assumed they would be a trilogy, because they 3081 02:19:56.840 --> 02:19:58.479 would they were going to do Mecca Hit. 3082 02:19:58.559 --> 02:20:00.120 They were going to do Mecca Hit. They happ you 3083 02:20:00.799 --> 02:20:05.639 kill him and to him piece himself. He knew there 3084 02:20:05.680 --> 02:20:06.319 was a Hitler. 3085 02:20:06.600 --> 02:20:09.639 He's like clearly like sick and like an old man 3086 02:20:09.920 --> 02:20:11.600 and like and and there's all these people like yes 3087 02:20:11.680 --> 02:20:14.319 men around him and stuff like that, and it's really embarrassing. 3088 02:20:14.360 --> 02:20:16.719 And I think, like there's something like Ronald Reagan calls 3089 02:20:16.799 --> 02:20:19.440 him or something. I don't know, it's weird, but it's 3090 02:20:19.520 --> 02:20:22.360 like it's clearly like he's dying, so they're gonna have 3091 02:20:22.399 --> 02:20:23.680 to put him in the next suit and keep him 3092 02:20:23.680 --> 02:20:25.319 alive for the third game so you can fuck him 3093 02:20:25.360 --> 02:20:28.639 up then. And I was like, just so meeting that 3094 02:20:28.959 --> 02:20:32.559 so bad And listen, I love Indiana Jones. I hope 3095 02:20:32.600 --> 02:20:33.760 they go back to Wolfenstein and. 3096 02:20:33.760 --> 02:20:38.000 Get I like Indiana Jones. I love Wolfenstein exactly. 3097 02:20:38.079 --> 02:20:40.600 Yes, right, so that's that whole scene was, yeah, you're 3098 02:20:40.639 --> 02:20:43.760 on Venus or something. Kiss isn't a bucket? And then 3099 02:20:44.000 --> 02:20:46.840 Ronald Reagan just as an actor comes in then Hitler 3100 02:20:47.000 --> 02:20:47.520 suits him. 3101 02:20:48.280 --> 02:20:51.159 Yeah, it was pretty cool. 3102 02:20:52.360 --> 02:20:55.639 Is just an all times, and it came right when 3103 02:20:55.639 --> 02:20:58.000 I needed the most. What a game game? 3104 02:20:58.239 --> 02:21:01.079 Maybe the devs are realizing, oh oh, we didn't get 3105 02:21:01.120 --> 02:21:04.120 it through people's heads that Nazis are bad. We gotta 3106 02:21:04.159 --> 02:21:07.440 make another one to just cement that Nazis are bad. 3107 02:21:08.040 --> 02:21:11.520 Yep. And I mean god, I think coming off of 3108 02:21:11.600 --> 02:21:13.760 Indiana Jones and having a chance to get a break, 3109 02:21:13.959 --> 02:21:17.159 letting people miss the series. I am flipping back over 3110 02:21:17.280 --> 02:21:19.920 to like, I believe this can happen, and I'm almost 3111 02:21:19.959 --> 02:21:21.319 at a point where I think it will happen. 3112 02:21:21.440 --> 02:21:22.280 Sure, I hope it does. 3113 02:21:22.520 --> 02:21:24.479 I mean, it seems like India Joe said, well, but 3114 02:21:24.600 --> 02:21:26.959 it's not like, get that next sequel out here immediately. 3115 02:21:27.159 --> 02:21:29.719 Well, I think it's probably get the next Seagull out 3116 02:21:29.719 --> 02:21:33.040 there immediately. Well, but not like, let's greenlight the next 3117 02:21:33.079 --> 02:21:35.520 two games. Well like that's I think they were helping 3118 02:21:35.600 --> 02:21:37.000 for that, and they're like, well, we're definitely going to 3119 02:21:37.040 --> 02:21:39.159 do another one of these, but I don't know if 3120 02:21:39.559 --> 02:21:41.479 I don't know if it's the very next thing, but 3121 02:21:41.559 --> 02:21:43.360 I expect it to be still and then they do 3122 02:21:43.399 --> 02:21:44.319 Wolfenstein after that. 3123 02:21:44.479 --> 02:21:46.799 Maybe all right, last couple of stories. 3124 02:21:47.079 --> 02:21:51.040 We're making great progress, says the director of Final Fantasy 3125 02:21:51.079 --> 02:21:55.000 seven remake Part three and Kingdom Hearts Flor. That's Tetsia Nimura. Uh, 3126 02:21:55.440 --> 02:21:58.200 should you're laughing? Should I believe him? What you don't 3127 02:21:58.239 --> 02:21:58.760 believe about? 3128 02:22:01.159 --> 02:22:02.479 I don't believe lies? 3129 02:22:02.799 --> 02:22:02.920 Uh? 3130 02:22:04.040 --> 02:22:04.600 I believe them. 3131 02:22:04.639 --> 02:22:07.639 I mean I believe, but they're making maybe great progresses 3132 02:22:07.639 --> 02:22:10.760 a lot, but I bet they're making Proggy's backwards. 3133 02:22:11.040 --> 02:22:14.040 He said, Final Fantasy seven Remake, Part three. We don't 3134 02:22:14.040 --> 02:22:15.920 know what the name is going to be, Revival whatever is, 3135 02:22:16.040 --> 02:22:18.079 whatever it is. He says they do have a date though, 3136 02:22:18.159 --> 02:22:19.959 locked in for when they're going to talk about that 3137 02:22:20.120 --> 02:22:22.719 game next. Is that probably the Game Awards. 3138 02:22:23.280 --> 02:22:26.479 I'm trying to think maybe a little early, so it 3139 02:22:26.520 --> 02:22:29.120 might be a little really still, it's only three months away. 3140 02:22:29.920 --> 02:22:31.559 Yeah, yeah, I mean they could have a tease. 3141 02:22:31.840 --> 02:22:32.280 They could. 3142 02:22:32.440 --> 02:22:34.440 Yeah, you're right, they could. I wouldn't necessarily expect it 3143 02:22:34.479 --> 02:22:36.319 wouldn't be like some absurd thing. 3144 02:22:36.399 --> 02:22:38.079 But do you guys think that game's not coming out 3145 02:22:38.159 --> 02:22:38.520 next year? 3146 02:22:38.920 --> 02:22:38.959 No? 3147 02:22:39.520 --> 02:22:40.719 No, I think it's twenty seven. 3148 02:22:40.719 --> 02:22:42.520 I think it's gonna be another four year dev cycle, 3149 02:22:42.600 --> 02:22:46.479 So it's gonna be twenty twenties, seven or eight, you know, 3150 02:22:46.600 --> 02:22:47.239 depending on how long. 3151 02:22:47.319 --> 02:22:50.879 Right, I could see a name drop this U. 3152 02:22:52.399 --> 02:22:52.760 Begainning. 3153 02:22:52.959 --> 02:22:55.159 Yeah, that's that's what I'm thinking. Yeah, that's I think 3154 02:22:55.200 --> 02:22:56.799 that's what he's saying too. It's like they'll have something 3155 02:22:56.799 --> 02:22:58.680 along those lines revengeance. 3156 02:22:59.000 --> 02:23:00.840 I mean, we kind of want to hear more. I 3157 02:23:00.879 --> 02:23:03.440 mean maybe not when I say we, I mean always, 3158 02:23:03.479 --> 02:23:05.719 but I think it Kenawart's four is when we hear 3159 02:23:05.760 --> 02:23:07.840 about more again before that. 3160 02:23:08.879 --> 02:23:10.639 Yeah, he did not say that they have a date 3161 02:23:10.719 --> 02:23:12.559 for that one, but he said we'll have something to say, 3162 02:23:12.680 --> 02:23:15.440 you know, at some point soon. So yeah, maybe it could. 3163 02:23:15.520 --> 02:23:18.040 It could also be super teasery stuff because we know 3164 02:23:18.200 --> 02:23:21.040 they're just doing weird stuff with the remake trilogy now, 3165 02:23:21.120 --> 02:23:24.200 so they could just like show some imagery of a 3166 02:23:24.319 --> 02:23:26.719 character doing a weird thing as just like a picture, 3167 02:23:27.000 --> 02:23:29.040 like something pre rendered and it just gets you a 3168 02:23:29.120 --> 02:23:31.719 hype or something like that. But yeah, I also see 3169 02:23:31.840 --> 02:23:34.360 Chat points out that twenty twenty seven is the thirtieth 3170 02:23:34.399 --> 02:23:36.040 anversary of f F seven. 3171 02:23:37.959 --> 02:23:39.840 Three years because they did build a lot of. 3172 02:23:39.920 --> 02:23:42.719 They would would have been able to foresee that and 3173 02:23:42.799 --> 02:23:44.719 could have like planned ahead and make sure they were 3174 02:23:44.760 --> 02:23:47.159 really working on that third game. And you know, they 3175 02:23:47.239 --> 02:23:48.920 talked so much about how the second game they were 3176 02:23:48.959 --> 02:23:51.200 able to get out quicker than they expected because they 3177 02:23:51.239 --> 02:23:52.920 had the whole team together and they learned a lot 3178 02:23:53.680 --> 02:23:55.799 that could compound. And now it's like they don't take 3179 02:23:55.840 --> 02:23:57.040 too many ambitious. 3180 02:23:56.639 --> 02:23:59.360 Risks with them where they are in the story right now. 3181 02:23:59.479 --> 02:24:01.719 They got through most of the like open world stuff. 3182 02:24:01.719 --> 02:24:03.840 There's still some places we haven't seen yet, like Bu 3183 02:24:03.920 --> 02:24:06.239 Tai that they need to go to. But the end 3184 02:24:06.319 --> 02:24:08.399 of the game is much more linear, so they could 3185 02:24:08.479 --> 02:24:10.280 just like, you know, narrow and scope to get out 3186 02:24:10.559 --> 02:24:11.600 with a quicker turnaround. 3187 02:24:12.079 --> 02:24:16.239 Now forget everything Final Fantasy. Of course, I need Kingdom 3188 02:24:16.319 --> 02:24:21.440 Hearts for I need I need Nomura to give Donald 3189 02:24:21.559 --> 02:24:26.200 Duck an even mightier spell to further prove that he 3190 02:24:26.360 --> 02:24:28.959 is one of the most powerful mages in the Final 3191 02:24:29.040 --> 02:24:32.600 Fantasy universe. Fair super Zeta Flair, Megazeta Flair. 3192 02:24:36.040 --> 02:24:37.479 There you go, just keep going now. 3193 02:24:38.000 --> 02:24:40.399 Initial trailer looked kind of interesting though, they like gave 3194 02:24:40.479 --> 02:24:41.879 so a grappling hook or something like. 3195 02:24:41.959 --> 02:24:45.680 I was like, yeah, I want to see what. 3196 02:24:48.559 --> 02:24:50.200 Interested Let's go. 3197 02:24:50.959 --> 02:24:51.879 That's a real genre. 3198 02:24:52.479 --> 02:24:56.479 What if it comes with the keyboard about I'm still out. 3199 02:24:59.280 --> 02:24:59.719 What it did. 3200 02:24:59.760 --> 02:25:04.399 Get Super into Kingdom Hearts. I mean, it's certainly within 3201 02:25:04.479 --> 02:25:07.280 the realm of possibility. He would make a good Rocksis 3202 02:25:07.360 --> 02:25:07.959 for Halloween. 3203 02:25:08.639 --> 02:25:12.879 What are the outstanding Disney properties that you expect to 3204 02:25:12.920 --> 02:25:14.879 be in the next and. 3205 02:25:14.920 --> 02:25:16.959 The first tea Mowana will certainly be in this one 3206 02:25:17.200 --> 02:25:19.280 and that teaser troth though everybody thought they saw what 3207 02:25:19.399 --> 02:25:22.399 looked like the Moon of Endor, so you know, everyone's 3208 02:25:22.479 --> 02:25:24.799 expecting Star Wars to finally get in here, and it's 3209 02:25:24.799 --> 02:25:26.479 they're doing Star Wars and it's like, well, do we 3210 02:25:26.559 --> 02:25:28.520 get a Marble level as well? 3211 02:25:28.600 --> 02:25:29.159 Aliens? 3212 02:25:29.399 --> 02:25:29.600 Yeah? 3213 02:25:29.760 --> 02:25:30.559 Yeah, but there's been some. 3214 02:25:30.639 --> 02:25:32.879 Hits since Kingdom Hearts three, like you can do and 3215 02:25:33.440 --> 02:25:36.639 on Conto level, right, that kind of thing with Coco 3216 02:25:36.799 --> 02:25:39.079 level Coke, Yeah, I have Coco. I think would be 3217 02:25:39.120 --> 02:25:41.760 a big one. Pardon me, you know, Keenum Arts two 3218 02:25:41.840 --> 02:25:43.200 is very much like that, like what are the most 3219 02:25:43.239 --> 02:25:45.799 recent hits? And then you know a couple Pixar movies 3220 02:25:45.840 --> 02:25:48.239 from back in the day and then oddly enough parts 3221 02:25:48.239 --> 02:25:51.399 of the Caribbean three, So nothing like super weird like 3222 02:25:51.440 --> 02:25:54.000 how Keenum Arts two did Tron back then? And even 3223 02:25:54.239 --> 02:25:57.559 Steamboat Willy. I hope he gets some deep cuts this time, 3224 02:25:57.680 --> 02:26:00.280 as I would like, what if we do pray? What 3225 02:26:00.399 --> 02:26:02.159 if you fight a predator with like. 3226 02:26:04.760 --> 02:26:14.159 Simpsons, this Family Guy, No, the Cleveland Show, the level 3227 02:26:16.000 --> 02:26:19.040 all right, last story here. Nintendo Direct is still expected 3228 02:26:19.079 --> 02:26:22.360 this week. Either Thursday or Friday are the dates to 3229 02:26:22.479 --> 02:26:25.879 keep going around the several insiders are saying this now. 3230 02:26:26.239 --> 02:26:29.360 One insider is also saying that the number seven will 3231 02:26:29.399 --> 02:26:32.760 factor in into many of the announcements saying that there 3232 02:26:32.799 --> 02:26:34.920 are there will be three seven games. 3233 02:26:35.200 --> 02:26:39.920 Are Meekers now marketing people like basically for Nintendo directs? 3234 02:26:40.040 --> 02:26:44.559 Yes for so yeah, three seven games as in games 3235 02:26:44.600 --> 02:26:46.639 that like relate to the number seven in some way. 3236 02:26:47.040 --> 02:26:50.159 I think Final Fantasy seven Integrade release date on the 3237 02:26:50.200 --> 02:26:52.719 switch to feels like a lock. What do you guys 3238 02:26:52.760 --> 02:26:53.680 think the other ones? Oh? 3239 02:26:53.760 --> 02:26:55.719 God, that's right, we got double a seven first light 3240 02:26:56.000 --> 02:26:57.440 is like a switch to thing? 3241 02:26:57.639 --> 02:26:59.159 So yeah, how is that not one? 3242 02:27:00.280 --> 02:27:02.879 Be when you said something recently, grow that, I'm open 3243 02:27:03.479 --> 02:27:05.239 it's real and the Soul caliber. 3244 02:27:05.239 --> 02:27:08.239 No, Soul Caliber was deconfirmed, said it's not so caliber. 3245 02:27:08.479 --> 02:27:11.159 Deconfirmed got the guy who was teasing this said nope, 3246 02:27:11.159 --> 02:27:13.399 it's not Soul caliber. It's not Soul caliber. Or it's 3247 02:27:13.440 --> 02:27:14.159 Attorney seven. 3248 02:27:15.399 --> 02:27:16.639 Okay, what about seventh Guests? 3249 02:27:16.680 --> 02:27:18.559 I like that one on here now, I'm thinking about 3250 02:27:19.319 --> 02:27:21.440 seventh Guests just got remastered like twenty nineteen. I don't 3251 02:27:21.440 --> 02:27:23.479 think they need to do something with the seventh guessing. 3252 02:27:23.280 --> 02:27:25.079 What if it's seventh Heaven? Huh? What if? What if 3253 02:27:25.120 --> 02:27:28.479 we're just putting sick on the switch to right? All 3254 02:27:28.559 --> 02:27:31.559 right here here me I said this during the chat 3255 02:27:31.799 --> 02:27:34.520 yesterday when you were talking about this. All right, we 3256 02:27:34.639 --> 02:27:36.879 have the number seven. What happens when you turned that 3257 02:27:37.000 --> 02:27:41.680 number seven upside down, right, because it becomes out Is 3258 02:27:41.719 --> 02:27:44.200 it the year of Luigi again? We're getting another year 3259 02:27:44.239 --> 02:27:48.639 of Luigi, that's what he said year. Hell, yeah, it's time. 3260 02:27:49.000 --> 02:27:52.079 It's been a while seven years of Luigi had a 3261 02:27:52.120 --> 02:27:55.319 twelve anniversary of the Year of Luigi. It's time, you know, 3262 02:27:55.559 --> 02:27:58.559 because maybe Nintendo was realizing, all right, it's been some 3263 02:27:58.799 --> 02:28:01.840 time since the name Luigi was a little bit hot 3264 02:28:01.920 --> 02:28:05.319 in the streets. Maybe we can recapitalize off of our 3265 02:28:05.520 --> 02:28:07.559 our guy over here, you know. 3266 02:28:07.600 --> 02:28:11.000 I mean they are going to announce a Lugi's Mission four, 3267 02:28:11.360 --> 02:28:13.360 like within the next year or two. 3268 02:28:13.920 --> 02:28:14.760 Yeah, we should be. 3269 02:28:15.159 --> 02:28:17.319 So that what was that studio's last game. It was 3270 02:28:17.399 --> 02:28:21.319 Strikers and that was a couple of years ago, and 3271 02:28:21.399 --> 02:28:23.239 they did that a couple of years after Luigi's Man 3272 02:28:23.280 --> 02:28:26.120 from three Definite. Right away they would have known they 3273 02:28:26.159 --> 02:28:28.200 were making a four. So yeah, I think we hear 3274 02:28:28.239 --> 02:28:29.360 about that next year and. 3275 02:28:29.520 --> 02:28:33.200 It's Charlie Day in the game. Yeah, wild. 3276 02:28:34.200 --> 02:28:36.120 I think I think these seven games are kind of 3277 02:28:36.200 --> 02:28:38.680 like the three most obvious, last least interesting ones. It 3278 02:28:38.719 --> 02:28:41.719 will be a seven rebirth first Light and then maybe yeah, 3279 02:28:41.760 --> 02:28:44.120 Kuzza seven or Resident Evil seven getting a native switch 3280 02:28:44.159 --> 02:28:44.680 to version. 3281 02:28:44.799 --> 02:28:45.760 Yeah, that sounds right. 3282 02:28:45.959 --> 02:28:48.399 I think it's I think it's Final Fantasy seven Resident 3283 02:28:48.520 --> 02:28:51.280 Evil seven to set up the you know, the coming 3284 02:28:51.319 --> 02:28:52.760 of all the other Resident Evil games. 3285 02:28:53.520 --> 02:28:53.680 You know. 3286 02:28:53.799 --> 02:28:56.440 I know that's got a cloud version on the one. 3287 02:28:56.479 --> 02:28:57.239 We don't count those. 3288 02:28:57.600 --> 02:28:59.959 We don't count those. And then Dragon Quests seven remake 3289 02:29:00.120 --> 02:29:02.200 has got enough smoke that I know that's a weird one. 3290 02:29:02.280 --> 02:29:04.559 I think I can't. I see so much smoke for it. 3291 02:29:04.600 --> 02:29:07.399 But boy, that's a weird one to me to do, 3292 02:29:07.639 --> 02:29:10.399 which I know. Look, you've got your hands on your head. 3293 02:29:10.479 --> 02:29:14.440 Over seven is a weird game that was even the 3294 02:29:14.520 --> 02:29:17.600 PS one era, when most jerrpg's were still just you know, 3295 02:29:17.879 --> 02:29:20.399 twenty five thirty hours long. That one is like one 3296 02:29:20.479 --> 02:29:24.280 hundred hours long. It's got this really weird structure to it. 3297 02:29:24.639 --> 02:29:28.239 It opens with a kind of four hour puzzle only sequence. 3298 02:29:29.600 --> 02:29:32.520 You know, it's it's good, but it's just such a 3299 02:29:32.600 --> 02:29:34.799 weird one to remake. I'm not saying it's like the 3300 02:29:34.879 --> 02:29:37.559 Black Sheep of the series, but it's Black Sheep adjacent 3301 02:29:37.879 --> 02:29:41.760 is the rumblings on that that is a remake, because 3302 02:29:41.799 --> 02:29:43.559 well they remade it I think three DS already, So 3303 02:29:43.600 --> 02:29:46.159 maybe it's That's what I'm saying, because like there was 3304 02:29:46.239 --> 02:29:49.200 rumblings that Final Fantasy Tactics was a remake, and I 3305 02:29:49.239 --> 02:29:51.959 wouldn't really call what's coming out a remake. And yeah, 3306 02:29:52.000 --> 02:29:54.879 this does have a three DS and iOS slash Android version. 3307 02:29:55.040 --> 02:29:57.479 I wonder if me it's like a spruced up maybe 3308 02:29:57.639 --> 02:30:01.079 that like there's just so many more popular or dragon 3309 02:30:01.120 --> 02:30:04.639 Quit like you know eight was also remastered for the 3310 02:30:04.760 --> 02:30:06.600 three DS, and like I think you would rather have 3311 02:30:06.840 --> 02:30:09.200 that one on switch to before seven. But maybe they 3312 02:30:09.239 --> 02:30:11.399 want to go in kind of order. I don't know. 3313 02:30:12.120 --> 02:30:15.959 I mean, the this is from two months ago. Jason 3314 02:30:16.000 --> 02:30:18.680 Schreer implies the dragon Quest seven remake is real, just 3315 02:30:18.840 --> 02:30:22.280 in a smaller scope. So the Square wants to remake 3316 02:30:22.280 --> 02:30:25.200 as many dragon Quest games as possible from modern platforms. 3317 02:30:25.479 --> 02:30:27.360 Doesn't mean all or any of them are going to 3318 02:30:27.399 --> 02:30:29.920 be big ambitious revamps like Final Fantasy seven remake. I 3319 02:30:29.920 --> 02:30:30.239 don't think. 3320 02:30:30.600 --> 02:30:32.239 I mean, it's the right that's definitely the right decision 3321 02:30:32.280 --> 02:30:34.159 here is that you do just take that through des Versure, 3322 02:30:34.159 --> 02:30:36.959 which did iron out some of the pacing and made 3323 02:30:37.000 --> 02:30:41.200 that four hour puzzle sequence a one hour puzzle seeks exactly. 3324 02:30:41.479 --> 02:30:43.799 You dis expect up res that thing up, but kind 3325 02:30:43.799 --> 02:30:47.200 of when we have a Dragon or a badly default remastered, right. 3326 02:30:47.600 --> 02:30:49.680 Yeah, I mean it could be like even it could 3327 02:30:49.719 --> 02:30:52.600 be like a complete asset asset reswap where they like 3328 02:30:52.719 --> 02:30:56.360 all the assets are upgraded HD like modern console clause. 3329 02:30:56.399 --> 02:30:58.920 Oh sure, like Crisis Core did, like Crisis Core. 3330 02:30:58.920 --> 02:31:01.799 Exactly, and then and then some edits here are there. 3331 02:31:02.000 --> 02:31:04.680 But I don't know, we'll see, hopefully we do find out. 3332 02:31:04.920 --> 02:31:07.479 It's when does Nintendo announce a direct? 3333 02:31:07.559 --> 02:31:08.040 Who knows? 3334 02:31:08.920 --> 02:31:11.200 You know? It is September. We usually get a September direct. 3335 02:31:11.239 --> 02:31:13.440 There's no reason to think there won't be one, but 3336 02:31:14.000 --> 02:31:15.799 we'll see. Maybe Thursday or Friday. If there is one, 3337 02:31:15.840 --> 02:31:16.479 we'll talk over it. 3338 02:31:17.479 --> 02:31:19.959 Okay, Well, I guess small one to sneak in here. 3339 02:31:20.000 --> 02:31:24.479 Breaking news tiny tiny, breaking news two XKO. Their beta 3340 02:31:24.559 --> 02:31:27.120 invites are going out right now, so if you sign 3341 02:31:27.159 --> 02:31:29.120 up for that, check your emails. This is an interesting one. 3342 02:31:29.760 --> 02:31:32.559 Unlike the Marvel TOCM beta, they're just leaving this one 3343 02:31:32.760 --> 02:31:35.440 up like once. Once you have access to it, you 3344 02:31:35.600 --> 02:31:39.479 just basically place getting early access. In early access basically interesting. 3345 02:31:39.520 --> 02:31:41.360 They're only taking down for like maintenance and stuff, so 3346 02:31:41.479 --> 02:31:43.360 you have an interesting way to do a beta. But yeah, 3347 02:31:43.639 --> 02:31:47.079 check your emails. You signed up, okay, and I guess 3348 02:31:47.120 --> 02:31:49.680 real quick gain. Nintendo did settle a couple of lawsuits 3349 02:31:49.719 --> 02:31:52.799 this week, but well that's barely news. They settled out 3350 02:31:52.879 --> 02:31:56.840 for two million dollars. Yeah, it's exactly. It's Tuesday for Nintendo. 3351 02:31:57.319 --> 02:31:59.040 They settled for two million dollars with the guy that 3352 02:31:59.079 --> 02:32:01.319 made the MiG switch with I think if I say 3353 02:32:01.399 --> 02:32:03.000 our four card, most people will know it. 3354 02:32:03.159 --> 02:32:06.600 Oh yeah, exactly, look at our four card, our four card. 3355 02:32:06.639 --> 02:32:07.319 But for the switch. 3356 02:32:07.879 --> 02:32:09.559 If you were using on your switch to good chance 3357 02:32:09.639 --> 02:32:11.879 you could get get hit and your thing will get 3358 02:32:11.920 --> 02:32:14.360 locked off online. But yeah, they settled with that guy 3359 02:32:14.399 --> 02:32:17.200 for two million. I think he's the one that represented himself. 3360 02:32:17.600 --> 02:32:20.159 And then there was another lawsuit that they settled with 3361 02:32:20.200 --> 02:32:21.799 a kind of a similar sort of thing. But yep, 3362 02:32:21.840 --> 02:32:24.360 that's just Nintendo doing their stuff this week. All right, 3363 02:32:24.479 --> 02:32:26.079 jan back over to you folks. 3364 02:32:26.079 --> 02:32:27.920 We're going to take another quick pricky break and we 3365 02:32:28.000 --> 02:32:31.440 will be back with some emails, some super chats if 3366 02:32:31.479 --> 02:32:33.440 we have them, and we'll see you on the other chat. 3367 02:32:39.600 --> 02:32:44.079 These are the emails or the show emails. Bombcasts, Giant 3368 02:32:44.120 --> 02:32:46.440 Bomb dot com is email dress. Send your emails too. 3369 02:32:46.920 --> 02:32:49.360 If you want to write in about something we've said 3370 02:32:49.399 --> 02:32:52.079 on a cross Giant Bomb programming, you have a quiz, 3371 02:32:52.120 --> 02:32:54.399 you got some miscallaneous cues that you want to ask 3372 02:32:54.440 --> 02:32:56.760 the crew, or if you have any some nice messages, 3373 02:32:56.840 --> 02:32:58.799 you know I'll take them. I love them. I'll send 3374 02:32:58.840 --> 02:33:03.040 them to who they are directed to. Thank you everyone 3375 02:33:03.239 --> 02:33:06.879 for writing in. We've been getting a boatload of emails 3376 02:33:06.920 --> 02:33:09.120 over the last couple of weeks, and uh that uh 3377 02:33:09.520 --> 02:33:13.120 tickles me in a very positive way. First email of 3378 02:33:13.280 --> 02:33:16.799 the show comes from Joe in Michigan. Joe writes in, 3379 02:33:17.120 --> 02:33:20.360 I had no idea doctor's offices measured height by the 3380 02:33:20.520 --> 02:33:23.479 half inch until Dan mentioned it on last week's Dumb Truck. 3381 02:33:23.760 --> 02:33:26.159 Does anybody else's doctor just guess how tall they are? 3382 02:33:26.559 --> 02:33:29.040 The nurse that takes height weight is always five feet 3383 02:33:29.079 --> 02:33:31.280 tall and has written down anything from six three to 3384 02:33:31.440 --> 02:33:34.200 six six on my chart. Can't wait for Giant Bombs 3385 02:33:34.399 --> 02:33:36.520 the Giant Bomb story to get tall sized merch now 3386 02:33:36.600 --> 02:33:38.799 that they're independent. Much love, Joe in Michigan. 3387 02:33:40.719 --> 02:33:42.520 I mean the first thing they do is they take 3388 02:33:42.639 --> 02:33:44.360 that little scale measuring thing. 3389 02:33:44.479 --> 02:33:47.280 Yeah, right, that has the numbers on them, So no one. 3390 02:33:54.120 --> 02:33:56.399 Guess your weight, yes, and it's there's numbers. 3391 02:33:56.719 --> 02:34:01.639 Are you at a carnival understanding someone in there? 3392 02:34:02.079 --> 02:34:05.479 You know, I don't know, thirties to fifties, just not 3393 02:34:05.920 --> 02:34:10.159 getting measured the hide wise, especially if that has been 3394 02:34:10.239 --> 02:34:12.040 collected within the last five years. 3395 02:34:12.120 --> 02:34:14.399 That usually doesn't tend to change. 3396 02:34:14.559 --> 02:34:18.760 Although they still measure me everything sure without sure. 3397 02:34:18.559 --> 02:34:20.760 And that's and that's fine. It's okay to to measure 3398 02:34:20.799 --> 02:34:21.319 every year. 3399 02:34:21.719 --> 02:34:26.319 I would probably not complete the physical if my doctor 3400 02:34:26.440 --> 02:34:30.799 was guessing my height, I would yeah, yeah, I'd be like, 3401 02:34:30.879 --> 02:34:33.959 good luck collecting this cope, goodbye. 3402 02:34:35.879 --> 02:34:38.200 Physical on Thursday. You guys do the yearly physicals? 3403 02:34:38.319 --> 02:34:38.840 Yeah, try to? 3404 02:34:38.959 --> 02:34:40.319 Yeah, I should try to as well. 3405 02:34:40.680 --> 02:34:46.719 Are very informal. Wait, so what do you mean? 3406 02:34:46.799 --> 02:34:48.559 You just go to his house and he's like all right, 3407 02:34:48.639 --> 02:34:50.840 get on the get on, tell us about he's feeling. 3408 02:34:50.840 --> 02:34:54.879 And his de's like, okay, well that's emotional or physically. 3409 02:34:55.239 --> 02:34:56.959 I get squeezed in a lot, you know, it's like 3410 02:34:57.559 --> 02:34:58.440 something's wrong, your death. 3411 02:34:58.520 --> 02:34:59.040 I come on in. 3412 02:34:59.159 --> 02:35:01.959 And then just so your dad is like, you know 3413 02:35:02.040 --> 02:35:04.319 it's Sunday night. You bring over a vial of blood 3414 02:35:04.360 --> 02:35:06.479 for your dollar work hours. 3415 02:35:06.520 --> 02:35:06.760 I'll just. 3416 02:35:09.040 --> 02:35:10.360 Now, he's got to do blood. 3417 02:35:10.159 --> 02:35:12.680 Work every now and then go there and be like 3418 02:35:12.959 --> 02:35:14.600 you need to get blood work. Go upstairs at the 3419 02:35:14.639 --> 02:35:15.799 doctor does do blood work. 3420 02:35:15.799 --> 02:35:19.760 You go to the last, of course, analyze the results 3421 02:35:20.479 --> 02:35:23.280 for he takes good care of me. Okay, your dad 3422 02:35:23.319 --> 02:35:26.159 squeezed me in Please maybe if he came here. I 3423 02:35:26.280 --> 02:35:28.760 just want your dad to squeeze me. Everyone moved to Ohio. 3424 02:35:29.079 --> 02:35:31.639 Get your great medical care for the next I don't know, 3425 02:35:31.840 --> 02:35:33.360 five years he's still practicing. 3426 02:35:33.399 --> 02:35:39.120 How much long you can he go threatening your father? 3427 02:35:39.319 --> 02:35:42.159 Oh my god? Five four years? So I killed my dad. 3428 02:35:43.479 --> 02:35:45.559 Clean read find like the catdown man. 3429 02:35:45.639 --> 02:35:48.239 People are going to find this podcast. It's gonna be 3430 02:35:53.799 --> 02:35:55.600 all right. Stand from Tumwater, Washington. 3431 02:35:55.680 --> 02:35:55.799 Right. 3432 02:35:55.879 --> 02:35:59.760 So, did you know Paul Thomas Anderson's upcoming adaptation of 3433 02:36:00.000 --> 02:36:04.479 Thomas Pensions postmodern novel Vineland, is bringing its beloved characters 3434 02:36:04.520 --> 02:36:05.479 to Fortnite next week? 3435 02:36:05.799 --> 02:36:05.959 Yes? 3436 02:36:06.040 --> 02:36:06.079 What? 3437 02:36:06.600 --> 02:36:10.360 And it looks like it's actually happening, they copied in 3438 02:36:10.440 --> 02:36:14.840 Instagram link and there what out of left field literary 3439 02:36:15.159 --> 02:36:17.959 or movie characters would you like to see come to 3440 02:36:18.040 --> 02:36:21.120 Fortnite next. Personally, I love to hit the Gritty at 3441 02:36:21.159 --> 02:36:24.079 Tilted Towers as Phantom Threads. Reynolds would cock say it 3442 02:36:24.120 --> 02:36:25.200 from Tom Water Washington. 3443 02:36:25.639 --> 02:36:30.840 Daniel plain View would be good. Yeah, the uncut Gems 3444 02:36:30.879 --> 02:36:35.040 Adam Sandler character would be good. Yeah, like legit, good dude, 3445 02:36:35.959 --> 02:36:38.600 the little women. Give me all of the little women. 3446 02:36:38.840 --> 02:36:40.200 Let me play as Joe Marsh. 3447 02:36:40.840 --> 02:36:46.159 I think Smashing Machine and cockfo from Catcher in the 3448 02:36:46.280 --> 02:36:51.559 Rye right the other. Yeah, I mean that's what I 3449 02:36:51.600 --> 02:36:55.159 can see. You had absolutely eventually just joined a murder Island. 3450 02:36:55.559 --> 02:36:58.319 Spielberg watched this movie and like was won't shut up 3451 02:36:58.319 --> 02:37:00.319 about how amazing he thinks it is. One bad after 3452 02:37:00.319 --> 02:37:02.920 another from Pta. I'm like, oh my god, I gotta 3453 02:37:03.000 --> 02:37:03.280 see that. 3454 02:37:03.399 --> 02:37:04.760 Curious that's the DiCaprio one. 3455 02:37:04.879 --> 02:37:08.520 Right, what's that? That's the Diprio DiCaprio. Is this man 3456 02:37:08.600 --> 02:37:11.360 in the flannel in this tier for this? 3457 02:37:11.559 --> 02:37:11.840 Okay? 3458 02:37:12.280 --> 02:37:12.840 Yeah, what this is? 3459 02:37:12.959 --> 02:37:15.079 Now? I'm getting very excited. Have you seen the like 3460 02:37:15.159 --> 02:37:17.520 Venice Film Festival stuff with the Smashing Machine where it's 3461 02:37:17.559 --> 02:37:19.559 like you want the Silver Lion like saft he did, 3462 02:37:19.680 --> 02:37:21.479 and like everyone's saying, this is going to be the 3463 02:37:21.600 --> 02:37:25.680 Rocks Oscar thing, and like, imagine how obnoxious the rock 3464 02:37:25.799 --> 02:37:27.440 is going to be if he wins a fucking Oscar. 3465 02:37:30.000 --> 02:37:34.200 The ego situation is unbelievable right now, If that motherfucker 3466 02:37:34.239 --> 02:37:36.399 wins an Oscar, it's gonna be incredible. 3467 02:37:36.520 --> 02:37:39.040 Now, I want to specify. I think that this stuff 3468 02:37:39.120 --> 02:37:42.399 is being made. It made in for Fortnite creative. It's 3469 02:37:42.399 --> 02:37:44.440 not like, you know what, it's a license. 3470 02:37:44.520 --> 02:37:49.840 The kill was added inefficient, Warner Brothers did this work 3471 02:37:50.319 --> 02:37:52.120 this warning. 3472 02:37:52.319 --> 02:37:54.440 I was getting a lot of stories that games me 3473 02:37:54.479 --> 02:37:56.639 towards my my time there. It'll be like, dude Perfect 3474 02:37:56.760 --> 02:37:58.920 has a Level one Fortnite. It always kind of makes 3475 02:37:58.959 --> 02:38:01.319 it seem like official thing, but it's like, oh, well, 3476 02:38:01.360 --> 02:38:02.760 because there's creation tools in. 3477 02:38:02.760 --> 02:38:05.479 That, It's like yeah, it's like the equivalent of uploading 3478 02:38:05.479 --> 02:38:08.239 a YouTube video, like, oh, dude Perfect has put up 3479 02:38:08.239 --> 02:38:11.079 a YouTube video because it's a community created thing. 3480 02:38:12.600 --> 02:38:15.159 I'm looking at an image on his Instagram post of 3481 02:38:15.840 --> 02:38:19.719 a pregnant woman with the Warner Brothers branding ad that 3482 02:38:19.799 --> 02:38:22.479 says this is not sponsored endorser advertised back games in 3483 02:38:22.760 --> 02:38:24.879 that you will be able to fire guns as and 3484 02:38:25.000 --> 02:38:29.799 also shoot in Fortnite huh where, Oh. 3485 02:38:29.760 --> 02:38:38.680 My god, Yeah, I have a meeting after this. That's crazy. 3486 02:38:38.719 --> 02:38:44.719 I didn't do this. This is unhinged behavior by the 3487 02:38:44.920 --> 02:38:50.559 Warner Brothers. The Brothers. All right, Cameron, right sin Hello 3488 02:38:50.680 --> 02:38:54.520 bomcast Cameron from smalltown, Minnesota. Do you think with acclaim 3489 02:38:54.600 --> 02:38:57.600 coming back and the recent success from the t HPS 3490 02:38:57.879 --> 02:39:00.799 Tony Oprascada remakes that there's a big we'll bring back 3491 02:39:01.200 --> 02:39:05.200 classics like aggressive inline or in Matt Hoffman's BMX game, 3492 02:39:06.200 --> 02:39:08.159 thank you. And I know they're not ks, but I 3493 02:39:08.319 --> 02:39:11.360 refuse to believe it's spelled a claim with two c's 3494 02:39:11.479 --> 02:39:11.719 love you. 3495 02:39:12.440 --> 02:39:13.760 I mean that was the joke back there. It was 3496 02:39:13.799 --> 02:39:18.120 like acclaim like ak gross, you know, like Kathy, Yeah, yeah, 3497 02:39:18.639 --> 02:39:20.639 I can't wait for this fucking thing tomorrow. We're gonna 3498 02:39:20.680 --> 02:39:24.799 talk over it. The Acclaim direct Jeff Jared better like 3499 02:39:24.840 --> 02:39:27.360 if we do the Bengo for that, Jeff Jared appears 3500 02:39:27.399 --> 02:39:31.399 better beyond the Bengo card, so so excited, like the teaser, 3501 02:39:31.559 --> 02:39:33.840 like bringing up like NBA JAM and Mortal Combat and 3502 02:39:34.040 --> 02:39:36.600 all these other things we can't do anything with, Like 3503 02:39:36.879 --> 02:39:37.559 I can't wait. 3504 02:39:38.399 --> 02:39:41.559 I hope they try. I loved Matt Hoffman's BMX, So 3505 02:39:41.680 --> 02:39:43.399 I want to see them try to bring back some 3506 02:39:43.520 --> 02:39:45.399 of these franchise to compete with the. 3507 02:39:45.440 --> 02:39:49.520 Modern I thought you were just saying you hope that 3508 02:39:49.600 --> 02:39:51.799 they try in general, and I do too. I hope 3509 02:39:51.840 --> 02:39:52.079 they just. 3510 02:39:55.239 --> 02:39:55.719 Real hard. 3511 02:39:58.360 --> 02:40:00.680 Any other hopes and wishes for a we will talk 3512 02:40:00.760 --> 02:40:01.040 over that. 3513 02:40:01.399 --> 02:40:04.520 No, I just don't even know what to expect. I 3514 02:40:05.799 --> 02:40:08.840 hope they just don't know it's illegal to use other people's. 3515 02:40:11.120 --> 02:40:16.600 It's Mortal Combat two, right, I'm just jared. This is mine. Now, 3516 02:40:18.879 --> 02:40:24.200 that's a Mario game. Do you think do you think 3517 02:40:24.239 --> 02:40:25.159 he's going to break a guitar? 3518 02:40:25.680 --> 02:40:26.000 Actually? 3519 02:40:26.120 --> 02:40:28.840 Yes, chancey? 3520 02:40:29.200 --> 02:40:31.200 I think that's over on the over under. 3521 02:40:32.719 --> 02:40:36.000 All right. Travis and Farago wrote in with five cues, 3522 02:40:36.159 --> 02:40:39.920 I picked one of them. Travis Ritz and Hello gigantisic 3523 02:40:40.040 --> 02:40:44.399 Bomb apparently Norwegian. What's the biggest, most glaring, grand canyon 3524 02:40:44.479 --> 02:40:47.559 sized blind spot in your gaming experience? Like a classic 3525 02:40:47.600 --> 02:40:50.200 game you've never played, or even an entire genre you've 3526 02:40:50.239 --> 02:40:53.360 never dipped your tiny little toes into. Travis and Fargo, 3527 02:40:53.559 --> 02:40:57.280 exhausted after a seven year old's birthday party quake. Probably 3528 02:40:58.079 --> 02:41:01.520 mine's metal metal gear Solitude. Yeah, I guess it's like 3529 02:41:01.600 --> 02:41:05.159 Doom and Quake, Yeah, yeah, the original Dooms. Yeah. 3530 02:41:05.719 --> 02:41:09.079 I have barely touched the Yakuza games really, so that's 3531 02:41:09.120 --> 02:41:11.760 when I gotta get to it. So there's some like 3532 02:41:12.000 --> 02:41:14.760 old PC stuff too, where like I feel bad about 3533 02:41:14.799 --> 02:41:19.280 like original boulders Gate that were played through Planescape Torment 3534 02:41:19.440 --> 02:41:20.360 some some things. 3535 02:41:20.200 --> 02:41:23.719 Like that, I got too many of the lists. It's 3536 02:41:23.719 --> 02:41:24.360 not even worth it. 3537 02:41:25.559 --> 02:41:29.559 Right, Yeah, I haven't played Geist yet, you piece of shit. 3538 02:41:29.959 --> 02:41:35.079 Yeah, I try everything. It was metal Gear before a 3539 02:41:35.120 --> 02:41:37.239 couple of years ago. I just had never played through 3540 02:41:37.399 --> 02:41:39.600 any of them, just straight shout all the way through 3541 02:41:39.719 --> 02:41:40.719 and loved the series. 3542 02:41:40.879 --> 02:41:42.600 I mean, it's definitely dark Souls for me a bit ago, 3543 02:41:42.600 --> 02:41:44.639 which is why I made a whole like initiative to 3544 02:41:44.760 --> 02:41:45.719 play those on my own. 3545 02:41:46.319 --> 02:41:48.760 I'd say, like a lot of classic charpy. But even then, 3546 02:41:48.799 --> 02:41:50.680 you know, I played through Corona Trigger, I played that. Yeah, 3547 02:41:50.959 --> 02:41:52.920 I played like twenty plus hours of a lot of 3548 02:41:52.959 --> 02:41:55.920 different final fantasies. I played the first disc of several 3549 02:41:55.959 --> 02:41:58.840 final that's good. Yeah, you get it then, Yeah, I 3550 02:41:58.920 --> 02:41:59.120 get it. 3551 02:41:59.239 --> 02:42:04.920 Yeah, Okay, moving on, Regi McFly rights in Deer Bomb Squad, 3552 02:42:05.319 --> 02:42:08.719 can you agree on an official way to tap up 3553 02:42:08.799 --> 02:42:12.399 a giant bomber, whether fan, secondary agent or main crew member, 3554 02:42:12.760 --> 02:42:14.200 yours REGI McFly. 3555 02:42:14.079 --> 02:42:15.680 Like they're saying we need our own like two sweet 3556 02:42:15.719 --> 02:42:16.799 situation or much. 3557 02:42:17.040 --> 02:42:19.200 I say, keep it simple with a fist bomb. 3558 02:42:19.319 --> 02:42:21.799 That's all I'm really is a safe one, right, because 3559 02:42:21.799 --> 02:42:23.879 that's the one where like everyone will feel comfortable and 3560 02:42:23.959 --> 02:42:24.280 you can't. 3561 02:42:27.120 --> 02:42:29.479 Well, I'll kiss you on the mouth, but that's not it. 3562 02:42:31.760 --> 02:42:33.840 We were talking about doing like the forearm thing for 3563 02:42:33.959 --> 02:42:36.079 a second, like the yeah that guy. 3564 02:42:36.200 --> 02:42:38.479 Yeah, there's a lot of coordination involved in that. 3565 02:42:38.600 --> 02:42:38.920 I don't know. 3566 02:42:40.360 --> 02:42:42.879 You can you can hear this difficult spot, you know? 3567 02:42:43.040 --> 02:42:46.639 Yeah, all right. Mike from Texas writes in Hello, due 3568 02:42:46.680 --> 02:42:50.639 to the recent MTG gathering talk uh magic, the gathering 3569 02:42:50.680 --> 02:42:53.399 talk about what color identity matches each member of the crew, 3570 02:42:53.559 --> 02:42:57.440 I figured i'd share thoughts. Jan is white red counters 3571 02:42:57.559 --> 02:43:00.280 because he lifts the whole team. Mike is blue white 3572 02:43:00.920 --> 02:43:03.360 hug because he's having a great time and wants everyone 3573 02:43:03.399 --> 02:43:06.959 else to be happy that he's there. Grub is Mono 3574 02:43:07.159 --> 02:43:10.440 green or go Big because he's always got something that 3575 02:43:10.520 --> 02:43:16.200 will blow you away. Jeff Jeff is Mono black, reanimate 3576 02:43:16.319 --> 02:43:19.120 because he's never out of the fight. Dan is blue 3577 02:43:19.200 --> 02:43:22.600 black control because he doesn't want anyone else to play 3578 02:43:22.719 --> 02:43:28.680 or have fun. Mostly, you know that's not true. What's 3579 02:43:28.719 --> 02:43:31.159 with the mono in front of all the colors? So 3580 02:43:31.879 --> 02:43:43.879 you're just that color? I'm black now? Everyone kidding, Love 3581 02:43:43.959 --> 02:43:46.799 you all. Mike from Texas sit from my iPhone. Shouts 3582 02:43:46.840 --> 02:43:50.479 out to everyone that actually sent in their color pied 3583 02:43:50.719 --> 02:43:53.280 definitions for the gang. One of them that I just 3584 02:43:53.559 --> 02:43:58.760 giggled at was Mike is white and that's just the truth. 3585 02:43:59.159 --> 02:44:05.799 Okay what you're trying to say that you're right, couldn't 3586 02:44:05.799 --> 02:44:08.440 make that clear. Let's go two more emails and super chests? 3587 02:44:08.479 --> 02:44:11.840 Have we got them? High podcast Crew. Since hitting forty, 3588 02:44:11.879 --> 02:44:14.040 I've been making a real effort to look after myself, 3589 02:44:14.280 --> 02:44:16.559 and I've actually been working to be healthier. I've lost 3590 02:44:16.639 --> 02:44:19.200 twenty kilograms about forty four pounds through a mix of 3591 02:44:19.280 --> 02:44:25.200 ozebic exercise and a cocaine habit I know that and 3592 02:44:25.559 --> 02:44:27.760 eating restrictions that come with invisil line. On top of that, 3593 02:44:27.959 --> 02:44:30.120 I'm finally getting my teeth trained after all these years. 3594 02:44:30.159 --> 02:44:32.520 It feels pretty great to be ticking off those grown 3595 02:44:32.600 --> 02:44:35.280 up health boxes. Got me thinking about how you've all 3596 02:44:35.319 --> 02:44:37.719 been sharing your own journeys. Backler has been out there 3597 02:44:37.959 --> 02:44:41.520 regularly playing sports, Dans run marathons, Grub's been on weight 3598 02:44:41.600 --> 02:44:44.159 loss kick Jan sounds like he might have cut down 3599 02:44:44.200 --> 02:44:46.239 on smoking, and Mike well, Mike seems to be able 3600 02:44:46.280 --> 02:44:47.680 to look at apples sometimes. 3601 02:44:49.040 --> 02:44:51.360 Maybe fictional video game ones at least. 3602 02:44:52.000 --> 02:44:54.319 So I love to hear what's the thing you're most 3603 02:44:54.360 --> 02:44:57.959 proud of in terms of being a healthy adult? Big, small, physical, mental? 3604 02:44:58.120 --> 02:45:02.559 What's your personal brag? Cheers from Sydney Tony. I think 3605 02:45:02.639 --> 02:45:05.440 the thing I'm on right now is boredom. I'm trying 3606 02:45:05.520 --> 02:45:08.360 to be deliberately bored sometimes because I have not been 3607 02:45:08.479 --> 02:45:12.680 bored and let me check my watch here thirty years. Yeah, 3608 02:45:13.799 --> 02:45:16.799 and that seems maybe not good. So I'm trying to 3609 02:45:16.879 --> 02:45:20.120 do nothing at all, like not even meditating. I'm trying 3610 02:45:20.120 --> 02:45:22.559 to do nothing and just seeing if I can handle it. 3611 02:45:22.879 --> 02:45:25.079 And you start immediately having thoughts you don't want to have, 3612 02:45:25.200 --> 02:45:26.639 and I'm like, oh, that's why I don't do this. 3613 02:45:26.840 --> 02:45:29.079 It's a bad sign that like, yeah, when you did 3614 02:45:29.120 --> 02:45:31.280 do stop distracting yourself for two seconds, like, wait, this 3615 02:45:31.319 --> 02:45:31.959 doesn't feel good. 3616 02:45:32.000 --> 02:45:35.000 Where did you get this idea from? That? I? 3617 02:45:35.319 --> 02:45:37.479 You know, like everything like, I'm sure, I like saw 3618 02:45:37.559 --> 02:45:40.440 like a tweet or a skiet or a YouTube short 3619 02:45:40.520 --> 02:45:42.559 or some bullshit. I'm like, you know, that's free, I'll 3620 02:45:42.639 --> 02:45:44.200 try it. That's my thing with most of these, like 3621 02:45:44.680 --> 02:45:47.840 anything new age, I'm like, if it's free, I'll give 3622 02:45:47.879 --> 02:45:50.000 it a shot and we'll see what happens. And if 3623 02:45:50.040 --> 02:45:52.840 it's bad, oh well, and if it's just if it's 3624 02:45:53.000 --> 02:45:56.879 just the placebo effect, oh well, I'll take it. That's well, 3625 02:45:56.920 --> 02:45:58.680 that's a little bit of something, and if it's real, 3626 02:45:58.760 --> 02:46:00.639 I'll keep doing it, so we'll see. 3627 02:46:00.680 --> 02:46:01.879 I'm very early on it. 3628 02:46:02.000 --> 02:46:03.799 I'm actually still trying to figure out how to do 3629 02:46:03.959 --> 02:46:07.200 it because interesting I'm surrounded by things that I'm interested in. 3630 02:46:07.440 --> 02:46:09.920 Meditation is like, you know, I think I would fit 3631 02:46:10.040 --> 02:46:10.479 in with that. 3632 02:46:10.600 --> 02:46:13.799 You know, no, I think meditation is non negotiable, like 3633 02:46:13.879 --> 02:46:15.559 that is something I have to be doing these days. 3634 02:46:15.760 --> 02:46:18.559 So yes, but I'm trying to do this separate from that, 3635 02:46:18.680 --> 02:46:23.360 because that feels like when those bad thoughts come, say, 3636 02:46:23.399 --> 02:46:26.079 I acknowledge you, you can go all about your leave me, 3637 02:46:26.159 --> 02:46:28.159 you can leave me now. I think boredom is like 3638 02:46:28.600 --> 02:46:31.079 what if you kept considering those things and thought about 3639 02:46:31.079 --> 02:46:33.120 them and you were forced to confront them. At least 3640 02:46:33.120 --> 02:46:35.520 that's the idea I'm having right now. We'll see, who 3641 02:46:35.600 --> 02:46:37.440 knows if it does anything, but I'm just gonna try 3642 02:46:37.479 --> 02:46:37.879 it for a bit. 3643 02:46:38.920 --> 02:46:41.799 I would say last year is definitely the marathon stuff, 3644 02:46:41.799 --> 02:46:44.040 and this year the intention was to round the marathon, 3645 02:46:44.159 --> 02:46:46.559 but then the injuries and stuff kind of piled up. 3646 02:46:46.639 --> 02:46:49.200 So now I'm just trying to kind of like treat 3647 02:46:49.239 --> 02:46:51.440 myself right, Like I'm just kind of like walking every day. 3648 02:46:51.520 --> 02:46:53.079 Now I'm doing a lot of shit to try to 3649 02:46:53.120 --> 02:46:54.680 like work out all these fucking like you know, I'm 3650 02:46:54.680 --> 02:46:57.440 going to physical therapy and all this shit wrong with me, 3651 02:46:57.559 --> 02:46:59.959 trying to get that fixed up. I tried something last 3652 02:47:00.200 --> 02:47:02.959 night that I want to keep doing because it felt 3653 02:47:03.040 --> 02:47:07.520 so good. I did a night shower. Okay, well I did, 3654 02:47:07.559 --> 02:47:09.559 I did? Okay, so you normally I played video games 3655 02:47:09.600 --> 02:47:11.520 every single night my entire life until I fall asleep. 3656 02:47:11.719 --> 02:47:12.440 That's basically what I do. 3657 02:47:12.639 --> 02:47:14.399 Is this about in the cold shower? Burst out the end? 3658 02:47:14.440 --> 02:47:15.959 Cause I feel like you told us about no, no, 3659 02:47:16.000 --> 02:47:16.159 no no. 3660 02:47:16.440 --> 02:47:18.639 We took one that Greb and I talked about how 3661 02:47:18.680 --> 02:47:20.639 we've done that in the past or even now. That's 3662 02:47:20.719 --> 02:47:22.959 usually a morning thing. So this time is like, I 3663 02:47:23.079 --> 02:47:26.159 take a nice hot shower. But before that, so I 3664 02:47:26.159 --> 02:47:28.520 stopped playing video games. At like ten last night, I 3665 02:47:28.760 --> 02:47:30.559 went into that steam room thing grubbed, the one that 3666 02:47:30.600 --> 02:47:33.120 I made you play Mario Win yep, And just twenty 3667 02:47:33.280 --> 02:47:35.559 twenty five minutes being in the steam room I brought in, 3668 02:47:35.639 --> 02:47:37.360 I got all these gimmicks for working out, all the 3669 02:47:37.600 --> 02:47:39.239 muscle knots and stuff like that, and I just kind 3670 02:47:39.280 --> 02:47:41.639 of like, you know, no music, no podcast, no anything, 3671 02:47:41.760 --> 02:47:43.399 just kind of like working on the muscles and stuff 3672 02:47:43.399 --> 02:47:46.319 there steamroom. Then a hot shower, taking my time in there, 3673 02:47:46.719 --> 02:47:50.799 going to bed nice clean, just you know, the hot 3674 02:47:50.920 --> 02:47:52.520 water and all that stuff and breathing in the hot 3675 02:47:52.559 --> 02:47:54.120 air and everything. And then I woke up today and 3676 02:47:54.319 --> 02:47:55.840 I felt like I had the best sleep I've ever had, 3677 02:47:56.000 --> 02:47:58.079 nice forever. So I'm going to start trying to do 3678 02:47:58.159 --> 02:47:59.399 the night shower steamroom thing. 3679 02:47:59.440 --> 02:48:02.760 I think, all right, yeah, if it worked to work, 3680 02:48:02.799 --> 02:48:03.280 that's awesome. 3681 02:48:03.360 --> 02:48:09.920 Oh great. Yeah, similar to grub I I don't want 3682 02:48:09.920 --> 02:48:11.879 to air too much dairy laundry. But I've had a 3683 02:48:12.120 --> 02:48:17.680 very interesting year personally, and I don't think I let 3684 02:48:17.799 --> 02:48:20.639 my brain be quiet on its own for too long. 3685 02:48:20.799 --> 02:48:23.399 So like if I'm not on a podcast or a 3686 02:48:23.440 --> 02:48:25.719 show with you guys, I have like a podcast where 3687 02:48:25.719 --> 02:48:28.639 I'm listening to music, and for like the last couple 3688 02:48:28.680 --> 02:48:30.280 of days, I will just kind of sit in the 3689 02:48:30.360 --> 02:48:33.760 silence and just like think. And maybe that's why I 3690 02:48:33.799 --> 02:48:40.079 actually liked raw dogging planes. But yeah, that has been helpful. 3691 02:48:40.120 --> 02:48:42.399 And also what I did or started doing, is I 3692 02:48:42.520 --> 02:48:46.440 will pick up my telephone and call a friend and 3693 02:48:46.559 --> 02:48:49.559 chat a second instead of texting, I'll just be like, yo, 3694 02:48:49.680 --> 02:48:52.520 can I shoot you a call? Real quick? Turns out 3695 02:48:52.879 --> 02:48:55.239 talking to people about the stuff going on in your 3696 02:48:55.280 --> 02:48:58.040 life is very useful instead of just keeping it rattling 3697 02:48:58.079 --> 02:48:58.959 around in your noggin. 3698 02:49:00.920 --> 02:49:04.559 Boy, I've had too many professional lifestyle changes recently to 3699 02:49:04.639 --> 02:49:06.040 think much about personal ones. 3700 02:49:06.159 --> 02:49:06.559 I don't know. 3701 02:49:06.959 --> 02:49:08.079 I guess I should think about that. 3702 02:49:08.239 --> 02:49:08.399 Now. 3703 02:49:09.600 --> 02:49:10.760 What did you guys fix about me? 3704 02:49:11.520 --> 02:49:13.719 We didn't have any professional changes the rest of us. 3705 02:49:16.120 --> 02:49:18.000 This very clearly only happened to you. 3706 02:49:18.600 --> 02:49:18.799 Yeah. 3707 02:49:19.120 --> 02:49:20.239 I don't know what you guys have been up to, 3708 02:49:20.319 --> 02:49:21.479 but it's been an interesting year. 3709 02:49:23.360 --> 02:49:23.920 What would you guys? 3710 02:49:23.959 --> 02:49:25.959 What do you guys think it should change? Nothing? 3711 02:49:26.079 --> 02:49:27.639 Don't change a giant bomb mug. 3712 02:49:28.120 --> 02:49:32.399 Oh yeah, how change your feelings? About mugs. 3713 02:49:32.760 --> 02:49:33.680 Absolutely not. 3714 02:49:34.319 --> 02:49:35.600 I'm always on team Meditate. 3715 02:49:36.559 --> 02:49:38.319 Yeah, I just I'll tell you why. 3716 02:49:38.319 --> 02:49:39.000 I don't think it's for me. 3717 02:49:40.520 --> 02:49:42.799 You are way wrong, But that's my think, that. 3718 02:49:44.959 --> 02:49:45.120 One. 3719 02:49:45.200 --> 02:49:47.440 But I don't knock it. If you haven't tried it, 3720 02:49:47.600 --> 02:49:50.079 isn't it. I really don't want it's not fruit. 3721 02:49:53.239 --> 02:49:55.239 You don't have to do anything, and you can do 3722 02:49:55.280 --> 02:49:56.239 it in ten minutes a day. 3723 02:49:56.399 --> 02:49:56.559 You know. 3724 02:49:56.600 --> 02:49:58.159 That's you know what Grub said about not being boor 3725 02:49:58.280 --> 02:49:59.360 thirty years. That's true for me. 3726 02:49:59.520 --> 02:50:03.719 And I'm like that that rules. It's great. I'm like, 3727 02:50:03.920 --> 02:50:05.239 I used to be really proud of it, but now 3728 02:50:05.239 --> 02:50:07.879 I'm like, can I be bored? I don't know. 3729 02:50:07.920 --> 02:50:08.799 And that's those things. 3730 02:50:10.559 --> 02:50:14.440 Like this quieting you think about it. I want it 3731 02:50:14.600 --> 02:50:15.079 was waight there? 3732 02:50:15.159 --> 02:50:15.399 That's it. 3733 02:50:15.479 --> 02:50:16.239 That's what I gotta do. 3734 02:50:16.360 --> 02:50:18.879 But you know, I got both the cardio actually the 3735 02:50:19.040 --> 02:50:21.200 Disrep's coming up. I get back into Disney shape. I 3736 02:50:21.239 --> 02:50:24.239 gotta get walking again Disney shape. 3737 02:50:27.680 --> 02:50:28.440 I want to ask. 3738 02:50:30.719 --> 02:50:32.239 I tell you, you're on your feet so much and 3739 02:50:32.319 --> 02:50:34.680 you're walking around like you kind of have to like start, 3740 02:50:34.920 --> 02:50:36.319 you know, I sit down off for works. 3741 02:50:36.920 --> 02:50:39.000 Don't you have to leave? I think you had a meeting, right, 3742 02:50:39.840 --> 02:50:40.360 are you trying to. 3743 02:50:42.040 --> 02:50:42.280 Listen to? 3744 02:50:42.600 --> 02:50:45.479 I have some steroids from like some butt things, so 3745 02:50:45.559 --> 02:50:47.760 I could just take those instead and they kind. 3746 02:50:47.639 --> 02:50:50.479 Of remember walk like thirty thousand steps a day at Disney. 3747 02:50:51.280 --> 02:50:51.479 Yep. 3748 02:50:51.959 --> 02:50:56.319 You know what was the question, what's a health brag? 3749 02:50:57.200 --> 02:50:58.200 A health brag? 3750 02:50:58.399 --> 02:51:00.360 Well, just what are you working on right now? Health 3751 02:51:00.399 --> 02:51:01.200 wise or personal? 3752 02:51:01.559 --> 02:51:04.000 I'm just gonna stop working so much, is what I guys, not, 3753 02:51:05.399 --> 02:51:09.159 you know, health wise? Liken't I play with I play 3754 02:51:09.200 --> 02:51:10.600 hockey with kids who are nineteen and. 3755 02:51:10.719 --> 02:51:12.319 I could keep up and I feel good about that. 3756 02:51:12.559 --> 02:51:14.959 That's good, That's right good. 3757 02:51:15.159 --> 02:51:17.719 I definitely like, well, I've been having like long nights 3758 02:51:17.760 --> 02:51:19.360 where I'm like working on a bunch of different stuff 3759 02:51:19.520 --> 02:51:21.520 and I'm like, oh, I am in this chair too much. 3760 02:51:21.520 --> 02:51:24.440 So I've been activating the standing desk at least once 3761 02:51:24.479 --> 02:51:27.239 a day now. It's I'm like this, and I've been 3762 02:51:27.319 --> 02:51:29.319 like hanging from bar as well, like I got to 3763 02:51:29.360 --> 02:51:31.479 just strengthen these muscles because I don't I don't do something, 3764 02:51:31.559 --> 02:51:33.200 this back is going to be fucked up. 3765 02:51:33.879 --> 02:51:36.680 I'm sorry. Grant kind of just like broke a Grant 3766 02:51:36.799 --> 02:51:39.120 NP in the twitch chat just broke my brain because 3767 02:51:39.200 --> 02:51:42.799 he's they typed Americans love Disneyland because it's the only 3768 02:51:42.879 --> 02:51:45.840 walkable neighborhood they'll ever it's grant. 3769 02:51:46.719 --> 02:51:50.559 That is a that is a Picasso comment. That is 3770 02:51:50.639 --> 02:51:51.600 a masterpiece. 3771 02:51:52.000 --> 02:51:52.680 I do like that. 3772 02:51:53.239 --> 02:51:54.600 It's a big part of the appeal. 3773 02:51:54.840 --> 02:51:57.479 Yeah, take it from someone who tries to make every 3774 02:51:57.520 --> 02:51:58.520 neighborhood walkaball. 3775 02:51:58.600 --> 02:51:59.399 It does not work. 3776 02:52:00.399 --> 02:52:02.559 She said that there was an Instagram reel of someone 3777 02:52:02.639 --> 02:52:05.360 being like, every neighborhood in America is walkable. I'm going 3778 02:52:05.399 --> 02:52:08.200 to walk to Applebee's. It's seventeen miles away. And the 3779 02:52:08.319 --> 02:52:11.680 videos just like, yeah, going through highway overpasses and stuff 3780 02:52:11.959 --> 02:52:12.760 and almost dine. 3781 02:52:13.319 --> 02:52:16.040 So I don't know if granted someone gift granted sub 3782 02:52:16.120 --> 02:52:18.319 Oh my lord, that's good stuff. 3783 02:52:18.959 --> 02:52:21.239 Last email of the show before we get the super chats. 3784 02:52:21.840 --> 02:52:25.680 This comes from Shagatron. Hi Bombardos. I fell asleep listening 3785 02:52:25.719 --> 02:52:28.040 to Knowledge Fight and had a dream that Dan became 3786 02:52:28.120 --> 02:52:33.879 known as the Cuck Destroyer. Signed Shagatron cool, that's reality. 3787 02:52:34.000 --> 02:52:35.360 All right, that's a lot. 3788 02:52:35.399 --> 02:52:36.479 I don't really understand here. 3789 02:52:38.879 --> 02:52:40.879 He has no reason to destroy cucks. 3790 02:52:41.959 --> 02:52:42.840 What's Knowledge Fight? 3791 02:52:44.440 --> 02:52:44.879 I don't know that. 3792 02:52:45.280 --> 02:52:49.000 Oh okay, folks, that does it for emails Bombcasta. Giant 3793 02:52:49.000 --> 02:52:51.040 bomb dot com is the email dress send your emails too. 3794 02:52:51.200 --> 02:52:53.440 Thank you for writing in, Mike Minaudi. Do we have 3795 02:52:53.520 --> 02:52:54.600 any super chats? 3796 02:52:55.639 --> 02:52:58.280 Yes, we got a few here from Eric Washenko to 3797 02:52:58.360 --> 02:53:01.440 start off. We are sick of this anti mug slander 3798 02:53:01.760 --> 02:53:02.239 and naughty. 3799 02:53:02.399 --> 02:53:02.879 That's fine. 3800 02:53:03.040 --> 02:53:05.559 I've been sick of mugs for a long time. We 3801 02:53:05.639 --> 02:53:08.479 can all have a similar distinct feeling. 3802 02:53:09.479 --> 02:53:11.719 Giant Bond I had this morning. I had coffe out 3803 02:53:11.719 --> 02:53:13.879 of my Giant Bond mugg and it was delightful. Everyone 3804 02:53:13.920 --> 02:53:14.600 should have that joint. 3805 02:53:14.639 --> 02:53:17.120 We could make that happen again. We can again. 3806 02:53:17.719 --> 02:53:19.479 No one else does say that merch star works. I'm 3807 02:53:19.479 --> 02:53:19.840 a master. 3808 02:53:20.000 --> 02:53:21.280 I actually definitely do. 3809 02:53:22.799 --> 02:53:25.840 Next up, it's from Chase Kennedy. Lions suck butt ps 3810 02:53:26.079 --> 02:53:27.399 packers suck to skull. 3811 02:53:28.079 --> 02:53:28.399 Dammit. 3812 02:53:29.799 --> 02:53:32.360 I think lions are great. They're big jungle cats. There's 3813 02:53:32.399 --> 02:53:33.639 no nothing to do with anything else. 3814 02:53:33.680 --> 02:53:35.520 But none of you, none of you lost worse than 3815 02:53:35.559 --> 02:53:37.159 the Browns. I don't know, I guess, but the Browns 3816 02:53:37.200 --> 02:53:38.399 had such an awful. 3817 02:53:38.159 --> 02:53:41.639 Loss, are pretty embarrassing. 3818 02:53:42.120 --> 02:53:43.120 Nine they were. 3819 02:53:43.239 --> 02:53:48.159 There is nothing better than the separation of emotion between 3820 02:53:48.920 --> 02:53:52.479 you know. Wednesday of NFL Week one, and then Monday 3821 02:53:52.799 --> 02:53:54.959 event the best. 3822 02:53:55.719 --> 02:53:58.440 Yep, my fancy teams did well. At least I'll take 3823 02:53:58.520 --> 02:54:01.000 that same the last year from Sleepmick. 3824 02:54:01.000 --> 02:54:01.319 Awesome. 3825 02:54:01.360 --> 02:54:03.360 Now that you've beaten Riven, will you be playing a 3826 02:54:03.479 --> 02:54:05.879 sequel where you have to discover how the bad guy 3827 02:54:06.000 --> 02:54:13.559 hurt his lower leg. It's called gans shin impact. That's good. 3828 02:54:14.000 --> 02:54:14.440 That's good. 3829 02:54:15.000 --> 02:54:17.799 Like that. Don't worry about it, Dan, it's really nice. 3830 02:54:19.000 --> 02:54:19.840 Yeah, don't worry about it. 3831 02:54:19.879 --> 02:54:23.120 And I already forgot all right, that's it, Thank you everybody. 3832 02:54:23.319 --> 02:54:25.120 All right, thank you everyone for the super chats. What 3833 02:54:25.159 --> 02:54:27.200 do we got going on for the rest of this week? Boys? Game? 3834 02:54:27.239 --> 02:54:33.959 This morning dreams, dream Cast games and a binder here 3835 02:54:34.079 --> 02:54:35.200 we could play all sorts of. 3836 02:54:35.360 --> 02:54:38.280 I might buy a Dreamcast live during this stream. We'll 3837 02:54:38.280 --> 02:54:42.520 see cool. Okay, probably the worst time to buy a 3838 02:54:42.600 --> 02:54:46.159 dream Cast. Oh like this day of the year, for sure. Yeah. 3839 02:54:46.840 --> 02:54:48.399 Oh man, I have semen here. 3840 02:54:48.399 --> 02:54:52.079 I don't think I have my uh my microphone. Unfortunately 3841 02:54:52.680 --> 02:54:54.879 it first for your dad. 3842 02:54:55.040 --> 02:55:01.520 Come on, here's something called Soul Caliber, Crazy Taxi, Frog 3843 02:55:02.000 --> 02:55:06.920 Frogger too. I got the Hedge Sonic Adventure to Trial 3844 02:55:07.079 --> 02:55:08.399 disc that's fine. 3845 02:55:08.719 --> 02:55:10.959 I was I was last night talking to Bank about 3846 02:55:11.000 --> 02:55:13.000 nine nine ninety nine because she was a Dreamcast kid, 3847 02:55:13.360 --> 02:55:15.479 and uh, I really She was like, when's the next 3848 02:55:15.479 --> 02:55:17.200 time that's gonna happen? And I was like, oh wait, 3849 02:55:17.760 --> 02:55:19.840 I was like, I guess it would be March third, 3850 02:55:19.920 --> 02:55:22.360 twenty thirty three, wouldn't it three three three three? 3851 02:55:22.479 --> 02:55:22.600 Oh? 3852 02:55:24.000 --> 02:55:26.000 Not specifically the nine, but like that because we would 3853 02:55:26.000 --> 02:55:28.239 have had two two twenty two and nothing happened. Somebody 3854 02:55:28.280 --> 02:55:30.319 needs to release a console on three three thirty three. 3855 02:55:30.479 --> 02:55:33.040 Oh, okay, that's the three DS two. 3856 02:55:33.399 --> 02:55:36.239 Yeah. Yeah, And I guess we had four four forty four, 3857 02:55:36.280 --> 02:55:37.639 So I guess every like, yeah, ten years or so, 3858 02:55:37.719 --> 02:55:38.200 we'll get something. 3859 02:55:38.280 --> 02:55:41.239 Yeah, I'm sorry. I heard like three nines in quick succession, 3860 02:55:41.280 --> 02:55:45.159 and then I started, uh having PTSD of eating hot dogs. 3861 02:55:46.000 --> 02:55:49.559 This morning's popping off from Wednesday Thursday Friday. Later today 3862 02:55:49.600 --> 02:55:54.399 we have a Dreamcast anniversary stream, uh, and then we 3863 02:55:54.559 --> 02:55:57.319 continue Mike's journey through Blake Club. We're going to talk 3864 02:55:57.399 --> 02:56:00.000 over the acclaimed stuff. We're gonna do a GB plus 3865 02:56:00.360 --> 02:56:03.120 he is us and then voicemail dump truck with friend 3866 02:56:03.159 --> 02:56:07.719 of the site, Samantha Coleman. On Thursday upf it will 3867 02:56:07.799 --> 02:56:10.680 do Borderlands. We'll see uh, and then maybe there will 3868 02:56:10.719 --> 02:56:13.239 be a direct. There is a best of Jeff Passer 3869 02:56:13.319 --> 02:56:14.600 out on the website. 3870 02:56:14.879 --> 02:56:15.079 Now. 3871 02:56:15.559 --> 02:56:18.280 We finished Riven yesterday, go check that out. Mike had 3872 02:56:18.319 --> 02:56:20.120 a mega man. He played Path of Eggs out to 3873 02:56:20.319 --> 02:56:22.920 go check that out. A lot of lovely fun shorts 3874 02:56:22.959 --> 02:56:25.520 that Sewn has pudding together. They're all great. He's so 3875 02:56:25.680 --> 02:56:27.639 good at them. I need everyone to type it. Thank you, 3876 02:56:27.760 --> 02:56:31.079 Sean into the chats right now? What else? Boys? What else? 3877 02:56:31.159 --> 02:56:31.639 We got. 3878 02:56:33.239 --> 02:56:34.000 It? Okay? 3879 02:56:34.120 --> 02:56:34.319 Cool? 3880 02:56:34.520 --> 02:56:38.799 All right? Put this streamcast and again that about does 3881 02:56:38.840 --> 02:56:41.200 it for the end of the show. We'll shoe you 3882 02:56:41.280 --> 02:56:43.559 next week for another episode of the Giant BombCast. He's 3883 02:56:43.559 --> 02:56:45.559 been Jeff, He's been Jeff, he's been Sewn, he's been 3884 02:56:45.600 --> 02:56:48.680 Mikey's but Dan, I've been dead. And hey, thanks for listening. 3885 02:56:48.959 --> 02:56:49.440 I love you. 3886 02:56:50.399 --> 02:56:55.040 Patrick's side, that's right, Patra side. It's on the menu, folks, 3887 02:56:55.920 --> 02:56:59.879 watch out Papa's We'll see next week the JOT podcast 3888 02:57:00.360 --> 02:57:05.280 good bye You're on in week Now it's our time.