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<v Speaker 1>Billy Cunningham, the Great America, of course announced it made

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<v Speaker 1>a few days back to Evanor Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>Dwine, let's picked the new lieutenant governor. And when we

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<v Speaker 2>spoke with the governor, he kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of indicated he was thinking outside the box a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jim Trussel is a name well known in the

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<v Speaker 1>Buckeye State. She spent many years as a football coach

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<v Speaker 1>at Youngstown State, had some moderate success in Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 1>won the national title, and thereafter he went back to

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<v Speaker 1>Youngstown State and served as president there for about ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>And now he's the new lieutenant governor in Ohio. And

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, Lieutenant Governor, Jim Trussell, can you tell

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<v Speaker 1>the American people how the process began that Mike DeWine

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<v Speaker 1>asked you to serve as the lieutenant governor kind of

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<v Speaker 1>walked us through what happened to be goes this pick

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<v Speaker 1>is somewhat out of the box.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, absolutely, But first I would be remissed if I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't say, it's an honor to be on with the

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<v Speaker 3>great American and on this Abraham Lincoln time, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the greatest Americans as well. But I have

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<v Speaker 3>to tell you I know part of your viewing listening

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<v Speaker 3>audience is up near where my dad grew up, and

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<v Speaker 3>today would be his one hundredth birthday. And I always

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<v Speaker 3>thought my dad was a great American. He grew up

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<v Speaker 3>in Aida, Ohio and went to Ohio State. Paul Brown

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<v Speaker 3>recruited him there, and then, like all those great Americans,

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<v Speaker 3>decided to enlist in the war efforts and went over

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<v Speaker 3>and served so that we can have a dis free

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<v Speaker 3>country we live in. So it's an honor to be

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<v Speaker 3>with the great American on this great American Day. And

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<v Speaker 3>the process that occurred started February first, actually maybe the

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<v Speaker 3>day before that. The governor said he was going to

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<v Speaker 3>be in my neighborhood. I had just gotten done with

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<v Speaker 3>two days of Baldwin Wallace University board meetings. He said

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<v Speaker 3>he was going to be in the neighborhood and could

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<v Speaker 3>he stop by, And of course, the governor says, he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to stop by, absolutely, and he was going to

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<v Speaker 3>be with Fran and I think they're going to a

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<v Speaker 3>basketball game with grandkids or something. And so he stopped

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<v Speaker 3>by and he sat down and kind of looked me

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<v Speaker 3>in the eye, and I could tell this wasn't a

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<v Speaker 3>social call, and he said, I've really been given this

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of thought. I've been thinking about what we

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<v Speaker 3>need and what I need and so forth. And he said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, I'd like you to consider the lieutenant

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<v Speaker 3>governor position. And then we talked for ninety minutes or so,

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<v Speaker 3>and I had a chance to visit with my wife,

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<v Speaker 3>who Ellen said, you know, it sounds like God's got

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<v Speaker 3>more work for you to do, and you love trying

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<v Speaker 3>to help people, and you're a workaholic. Why don't you

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<v Speaker 3>go do it?

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<v Speaker 1>So here we are, Jim Trust before that conversation, did

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<v Speaker 1>you have any idea, any hope, any inkling you were

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<v Speaker 1>to get into politics, not just politics, but you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the lieutenant governor state of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that even on the horizon before that meeting?

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<v Speaker 3>No? No, you know, I've always felt like I've been

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<v Speaker 3>in public service because I've been trying to serve students,

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<v Speaker 3>serve university, serve communities, and so you know, at every

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<v Speaker 3>turn I try to find ways where I can add

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<v Speaker 3>value and serve. You know, never was it the idea

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<v Speaker 3>that I thought I would serve in government. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>what do they say if you think you have plans

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<v Speaker 3>God's up there laughing, you know, And I think that

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<v Speaker 3>was the case.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as I asked Mike DeWine this question, and

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<v Speaker 1>other politico as I talked to Alex Streutzafiel, who, as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is the chair the Republican Party, does Lieutenant

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<v Speaker 1>Governor Trussel have any desire to run for governor next year?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you'd be surprised that this is the first

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<v Speaker 3>time someone asked me this. No, I'm just kidding. This

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<v Speaker 3>the probably the hundredth time. And you know what's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>What's funny is when I got my first real job

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<v Speaker 3>of my life. I had been a paper boy and

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<v Speaker 3>i'd you know, cut grass and all that. But my

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<v Speaker 3>first real job was as a graduate assistant teacher and

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<v Speaker 3>coach at the University of Akron and I had to

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<v Speaker 3>meet the athletic director to get the final approval. And

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<v Speaker 3>I walked in and he told me not to sit down,

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<v Speaker 3>and he said, I only have one piece of advice.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to reach your potential, if you want

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<v Speaker 3>to have success here and in life, keep your mind

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<v Speaker 3>and your rear end in the same place. And he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't say rear end, by the way, And then he

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<v Speaker 3>told me to leave, and as I walked out, I said,

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<v Speaker 3>for the rest of my life, I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 3>all I can do to keep my mind in my

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<v Speaker 3>rear end in the same place. So the answer is

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<v Speaker 3>my mind in my rear end, just like they were

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<v Speaker 3>at Youngstown State when I was coaching there, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>dreaming about going to Ohio State. When I was at

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<v Speaker 3>Ohio State coaching there, I wasn't dreaming about being a

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<v Speaker 3>president someday. And I certainly haven't been dreaming about being

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<v Speaker 3>a lieutenant governor or a governor. But I can promise

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<v Speaker 3>you this, I'll keep my mind in my rear end,

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<v Speaker 3>in the place that I am, and that hopefully I

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<v Speaker 3>can add value. And just like all the other chapters

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<v Speaker 3>of my life, when I turned to the next chapter,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of times it's the unknown.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're not foreclosing the possibility of you putting together

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<v Speaker 1>an exploratory committee in the next few months and running

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<v Speaker 1>for governor. I hear the answer is you don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're not saying no. You're not saying yes. You're

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<v Speaker 1>saying you don't know. You know what I'm saying. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not saying yes. You're not saying no, you're saying I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. So by saying you don't know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a no or a yes. So is the answer yes

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<v Speaker 1>or no? Or is it I don't know?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'll tell you the answers. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 3>what an exploratory committee is. You mean we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>go sail somewhere and find an island? I mean, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what an exploratory committee is. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's funny. I remember when I got to Youngstown State

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<v Speaker 3>as the coach and they said, you know, I had

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<v Speaker 3>been at Ohio State as an assistant, and they said,

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<v Speaker 3>is your goal to get to a house state as

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<v Speaker 3>the head coach someday? I said, I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you this. If I'm not very good at

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<v Speaker 3>Youngstown State, that's not I'm not gonna have to worry

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<v Speaker 3>about that anyway. So I'm going to try to get

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<v Speaker 3>as good as I can at what I'm doing, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the future holds.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what do you How would you respond to some

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<v Speaker 1>in the state of Ohio. There's about twelve million of

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<v Speaker 1>us here that would say, what does Jim Trussell know

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<v Speaker 1>about politics? What does Jim Trussell know about lieutenant governor?

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<v Speaker 1>What does Jim Trussell know about public policy? What does

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<v Speaker 1>he know about the budget? What does he know about

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<v Speaker 1>the marijuana reform laws? What does he know about sales

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<v Speaker 1>tax or the equalization formula of public education? So how

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<v Speaker 1>do you respond to those who say Jim Trussell doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know anything about what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>How would you respond to that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I would start with the first one you had,

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<v Speaker 3>You said, what do you know about politics? I guess

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<v Speaker 3>I don't look at this as politics. I look at

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<v Speaker 3>this as serving and trying to keep in mind the

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<v Speaker 3>needs of every Ohioan, of every conversation. And then you

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<v Speaker 3>rattled off a bunch of the things, and it's been fun.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just sitting in on an ed board meeting,

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<v Speaker 3>which I learned as editorial board, you know, I hadn't

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<v Speaker 3>done those, And I listened to the governor talk about

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<v Speaker 3>the school funding. I listened to him talk about the

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<v Speaker 3>marijuana situation and the tax for the potential help for

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<v Speaker 3>stadium in the state, and on and on and on

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<v Speaker 3>and so I'm not an expert really on anything. I

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<v Speaker 3>never was. I'm a good listener, I'm a good learner.

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<v Speaker 3>I've had the ability to connect people together and try

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<v Speaker 3>to work hard together. I think the expertise that the

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<v Speaker 3>governor hopes I can bring is the expertise and education

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<v Speaker 3>and workforce as it pertains to the outcomes. To me,

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<v Speaker 3>the number one outcome this state needs is we better

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<v Speaker 3>increase our workforce to meet the opportunities that are great

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<v Speaker 3>leaders on both sides of the Isle and Jobs Ohio

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<v Speaker 3>and everyone else have brought to us in the form

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<v Speaker 3>of whether it's Intel or Andreil or keeping Sherlin Williams

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<v Speaker 3>in Cleveland. Though the things going on in Cincinnati and

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<v Speaker 3>the Dayton Coalition, we've been brought some unbelievable opportunities. My

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<v Speaker 3>hope is that I can contribute toward us making sure

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<v Speaker 3>we can execute on those and that begins with education

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<v Speaker 3>and building a workforce. And that's where I'm fairly certain

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to ask me to spend a lot of time.

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<v Speaker 3>I've already spent a lot of time with JP, Mascife

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<v Speaker 3>and Jobs Ohio. Over the years. We've got our region

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<v Speaker 3>up in Youngstown that I worked with, the LAKEA River Region,

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<v Speaker 3>I've worked with the team Neil, I've worked with the

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<v Speaker 3>Central office there I've tried to talk about how do

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<v Speaker 3>we integrate all the way down into the early years

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<v Speaker 3>of making young people aware of the advanced manufacturing that's happening,

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<v Speaker 3>the AI, all the different things, because we've got an

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<v Speaker 3>amazing opportunity. We have an amazing opportunity in Ohio. We've

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<v Speaker 3>got Ohio River, We've got Lake Erie, we've got natural gas,

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<v Speaker 3>We've got all these new companies who are in a

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<v Speaker 3>location that is within five hundred miles of I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how many million people. Now. My biggest thrill as

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<v Speaker 3>a coach who's going and trying to win the Big

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<v Speaker 3>ten or the national championship, my biggest thrill now is

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<v Speaker 3>to see if we can go and create that workforce

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<v Speaker 3>that will allow us to be winners in these opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, since you're now the Lieutenant governor, there's a bill

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<v Speaker 1>coming through the General Assembly that would fundamentally change the

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<v Speaker 1>marijuana money distribution from the townships and the cities all

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<v Speaker 1>into the state fund. There are many township officials I

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<v Speaker 1>know quite unhappy with that. I expressed this to Governor

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Dwain. A lot of city leaders are unhappy. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a law passed by the voters, and now the

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<v Speaker 1>legislature wants to change it. They want increase by fifty

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<v Speaker 1>to one percent the tax on marijuana. The bill took

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and twenty five million dollars out of the

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<v Speaker 1>pockets of drug dealers and put it in the sales

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<v Speaker 1>column of the state of Ohio. And now many in

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<v Speaker 1>the industry are saying, the State of Ohio is going

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<v Speaker 1>to kill the golden goose by increasing the price in

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<v Speaker 1>marijuana is so much that individuals that use marijuana. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course I'm not one of them. I assume you're not

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<v Speaker 1>one of them. They're going to go back to the

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<v Speaker 1>dark market. There's going to be more people, more money,

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<v Speaker 1>a hand of drug dealers. And so do you have

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<v Speaker 1>an established position yet on the marijuana reform bill coming

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<v Speaker 1>through the legislature?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't. In fact, the first time I

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<v Speaker 3>heard in in depth conversation about it was earlier today.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the things that I've grown to learn here

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<v Speaker 3>in the first few days of being in this opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>is I got a lot of reading to do. I've

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<v Speaker 3>got a lot of learning to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Learning and yep, oh, I've.

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<v Speaker 3>Got to listen. I've got to learn and I've got

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that I understand. And then people love

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<v Speaker 3>anecdotes and they love data. I just want to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that the data is verifiable, that the anecdotes are

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<v Speaker 3>that makes sense, They're not just you know, one offs.

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<v Speaker 3>And but uh, it seemed to me listening to the

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<v Speaker 3>editorial board questions to the governor, uh, that there'll be

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<v Speaker 3>some good conversation about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Have are you a registered Republican for the last decade

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<v Speaker 1>or so?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you been a registered Republican.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as I know? Yeah? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>And did you vote for Mike the Wine each time?

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<v Speaker 3>I believe so? Yeah, I mean each time for governor

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<v Speaker 3>that I voted for more than one time. You have

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<v Speaker 3>a number of great American I'm one hundred years old.

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<v Speaker 3>I vote. I might have voted for Mike Dwaine seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>times for all I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think he's one in seventeen. All right, we

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<v Speaker 2>got to run.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jim Tressel, new Lieutenant Governor of high let's get

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<v Speaker 1>the lines of communication open. I love the idea you say, essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>you got two ears and you got one mouth, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you have a learning curve. But you're bright and

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna you're gonna learn and you're gonna get on.

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<v Speaker 1>But thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Lieutenant

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<v Speaker 1>Governor Jim Trestle of Ohio State and Young Sound State.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do it again in the next few months.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, sir, you're a great American.

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<v Speaker 1>And God bless Abraham Lincoln and God bless Jim Trestle. Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much. All righty, goodbye, Let's continue with

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