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great and Super Bowl champion Brady Papina to discuss the
victory over to.
Speaker 5: The U of A Wildcats. Be pop. How is your weekend?
Speaker 3: It was excellent. There's like a like a like you'd mentioned,
it's topped off by the by U in Victorian like
afford to transpitioning into rivalry week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, at six and oh back to back seasons under
Kalani Sitake. This has never been done in BYU football history.
When you when you hear that stat and it coming
within a P four schedule, right, Uh, what's your reaction?
I mean, this has never been done in BA footballzterers,
even going into the seventies and eighties, the glory or
of BYU football, they have not been able to go
back to back.
Speaker 5: Seasons going six and oh to start the season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean it makes sense, It's what I've
been seeing over the last three year years as DYU
is assented in the P four world lobehole, I think
independent and anything that happened before that prepared us to
survive and thrive in a P four world where we're
able to pay guys, We're able to go out and
build and accumulate one of the best coaching staff, so
you can imagine. I mean, I wish I could pull
back some of these soundbites that I had three years
ago when they went five to seven where I was
embedded with them, and I was like, man, this coaching staff,
no egos, locked in a lot of cohesion, and it's
just I was thinking, man, it's a matter of time
that they're going to be able to figure this out,
get the right players in here the lobhole. That second year,
we see some players evolve and ascend, we see some
new players, and then this year, like we were talking
about during the training camp, I've never seen a DYE
team as talented on all three levels and also in
our depth, and I think that was tested and they
passed the test very well. Kafusie number eight teams specifically
against U of A where we didn't have Jack Kelly playing,
but man Kafusi was lights out and then sixty four
us Sarah that they probably deserves the MVP at the defense,
but the deal was all over the field and it
was that to me, is the most oppressive part of
about it is our depths and also our top of
our talent, and that should be the result. You know,
when you when you have that kind of coaching staff, team,
the investment in development, the ability to develop guys, this
is what happens. You have historical things happen, and A
was only going to continue to see historical things happen
because right now BYU sports in general, YU football specifically,
is that levels that we've never seen before in the
history of BUYU and that the rector now is reflecting that.
Speaker 4: Let's discuss this BYU victory. I mean, they were up
fourteen to zero before the uh the storm break, you know,
Hurricane Priscilla coming in. There was a thunderstorm and moisture
and man, he was delayed one and a half two
hours before.
Speaker 5: They got into the second quarter.
Speaker 4: You have, they roared back and had twenty four unanswered
points before midway through the fourth quarter when BYU's offense
came alive again and they they got the dub and
doublet uh. Let's break this game down. What did you see?
What did you like? What did you dislike?
Speaker 3: Well overall, I mean it's a very challenging thing to
going to going to the road in a in a
conference game on a team that's rolling like you have
the will, so that that's your first challenge already there boom,
then you got the weather's a lay. People don't realize
that your body as a football player, Ben you know
this your condition to basically ramp up, go play and
perform and then calm down. It is not in the
routine to ramp up, go perform, calm down, ramp up again,
go That is that extra ramping up is not there,
and so you could see that. I mean that to
me is a huge challenge to have to overcome. And
granted both teams had to go through it, but the
fact that you're by here.
Speaker 2: You're on the road, unfamiliarity.
Speaker 3: I do believe it affected by us offense more than
it effected anything. It's because they were in rhythm, they
were in flow, and then it kind of chopped them
up a little bit. And then you got to get
the credit to you know, Arizona too, they kind of
got into the flow and uh, but you know you
have to anticipate it. All of Arizona's going to make
that run. And then there were some unfortunate calls that
went against Bye might supposed specifically to one of Isaiah Glaska.
I mean, we had him in a first twenty five
and the next play he gets this ghost you know,
roughing call, which the refs would probably admit it to
it too that the ramping up, stopping and ramping up
probably affects them because the mechanics on that play. I
hope everybody understands that if there's any question of roughing
the passer and there's targeting associated with it, you don't
throw the flag because you know you're going to be
able to on the back end go review that and
if there is targeting, then throw the flag. The problem
is you throw the flag and you get it wrong
like that ref did. After the video reviews, you can't
pick up the flat, so these reven crews have to
go over that again. Like, look, if there's any question
of the roughing the pass or with target getting, don't
call rough in the passer. Let's let the video evidence
guide us there and then we'll drop the flag if
the fact that targeting, and then you know, give out
the appropriate penalties and punishments. Right, and so that was
against them, and then the fact that they're down two scores.
Our offense really hasn't been an explosive offense. And then
lo and behold, you know what they figured out. I mean,
that's that's special, man Like. It's hard to say that's
a negative because I don't believe it was self induced.
The interceptions I thought were aggressive throws by Bear. That yeah,
he underthrew them both. One was a little inside the
first interception, the other one he grossly underthrew the tight end.
But you know what, they're aggressive throws. I don't see
them as being reckless at all, and so I don't
I don't Outside of Bear's fumble and fortunately we got
it back, I didn't really see much self afflicted you know,
things happening that really put us in that position. I
think Arizona's good. I think the circumstances were tough, our
guys responded, and I think that was one of the
best victories in the history bore you football, by the way,
based off of all those challenges and circumstances and surprises
and things that they had to deal with, and they
still found a way to win.
Speaker 4: You mentioned the fumble by Bear and the subsequent recovery.
How about Kyle super choke. I don't think that ball
was in his hands when he went into the pile,
but somehow someway in the muck of it all in the.
Speaker 5: Scrum, he was able to.
Speaker 4: Take it away and h and retain the football for
BYU and pick up the first down at the same time.
How about the real MVP Kyle Surferick show.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's you know obviously that that's not
one play, But man, I mean I look at it.
An offensive line, by the way, kicked ass the whole
game's they were throwing around. Arizona's pretty good front that
you know, Arizona's front. If you had to rate him
out of a ten, they're an eight and a half.
They're pretty darn good. And our guys were I mean,
I just I can't say enough good about our offensive
lineman guys and our defense. Again, they are defensive front guys.
They're what I because what I love about them is
their mentality is a scrappy mentality. But these are big,
physically imposing offensive climen. You know what I'm saying, You
got to get Coach Woods a ton of gret able
to ingrain in these guys. That mentality is kind of
being like the underdogs scrapper, but they combo that. Look
at their size and their ability to deliver the you know,
these big blows because they are so powerful, and the
same with their defensive front guys. But you know, I've
always talked about you always kind of associate these bigger
guys of not having the best of voters. But Kirklin,
you know, J T. Tonavassa, some of our I mean,
those guys in there, man, they are you know Beeley
and and you can go down the whole list body.
You're all those big and chierior guys, both offensive and defensively. Man,
they just play with a high motor, excellent effort from
the start to the finish. And it's it's like I said,
it reminds me of like the old like New Mexico
defense is that they were always really shorthanded in terms
of talent, but because the Bronco's ability to inspire them,
just played probably twice as good as their talent. You know,
and so and I, and you can almost start going
in almost every position group. But it's just impressive to
see that with those big guys, because they're not compelled
to be that way, if you know what I mean.
They're they're they're they're choosing to be that way, and
they're they're they're God has been huge, and especially it
was huge, you know, the tight end of the fourth
quarter where there was no roof air and and you
hit them on the head their ability to because a
lot of times the people don't realize is just as
it is important on the defensive side of the ball
to pursue the ball because this could happen. The guy
could fumble, or you don't get to the guy down
to the ground and you need help to get unto
the ground. On the offensive side, it's just as important
for the offensive lineman to pursue the ball for that
exact reason, in case the ball spurts out or you
got to kind of push guys forward, whatever it is.
And our guys do that constantly. So that extra effort
had been on the displayed throughout the whole game, and
then that ended up being where it really was important
to retain possession as we were on the brink of
of scoring there. So you just can't say enough good
about our interior or our whole offensive line, a defensive
liance up until this point, and they're going to be
needed again this week to continue to play it.
Speaker 4: As you mentioned, Sarah Brady, and with Isaiah Glasger being injured,
I mean, he was notn one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: He was out there doing his best.
Speaker 4: Jack Kelly sitting Sally just stepped up sixteen total tackles,
six solo, a half TfL and a past defended. Let's
elaborate a little bit more on what he was doing defensively.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I want everybody to know I've been like,
you know, I have inside information about it, Sarah, and
quite frankly, at the beginning of the year, I think
he was overthinking things. He was experienced, and this is
very common for young players. There's this paralysis by over
analysis and they're you know, it's kind of like you
don't booze and the play happens and you know, justin
and it did such a job, just a strong job
with him and just working with and being patient. You
hear like after practice I was when I was here,
I hear Justich go up and talk to him like, hey, man,
just keep with it, you know, don't think you can't
and you can't just turn your brain off of this defense.
There's a lot of layers to it. And the light
bulb turned on for him against Arizona. Man, he was
not just the tackling machine. Like there's guys that get
a bunch of tackles, right they're like, oh wow, he
had sixteen docs. This dude was flying around like a
heat seeking missile all over the place. I mean, he's
a guy where if you just turn on the tape
and you just sit back and you're just like, Okay,
I'm gonna just look at this from a very macro
like kind of a dist interview, and I'm just gonna
see who's playing at a different speed, Who's all over
the place? That number five to four was all over
the place, man all over silight of the sidelight, in
coverage against the past in the I mean, it was
a beautiful thing to see for him so or finally,
and I mean that's why I think everybody is expected
out of him, to finally see him just explode and
come out of his growing phase. And now he's in
a phase where he can be an absolute game changer,
a guy who really kills the game in your favor
as long as he continues to play that way. And
so and you know, there's unfortunately he missed the tackle
on that long run there for a olla that short
yardage play. But I mean there was other plays, tons
of others where he made that same tackle, and so
I think my point of bringing that up is that's
that's how good he was. There's not a lot of
those tackles broke out, but that's kind of sometimes the
position he's put into where he's got to make the
player else plays out, you know. And so he did
a phenomenal job. I have to say, he's, like I
said to me, he's the MVP of the defense in
that game, because like you said, if you bring you know,
Jack Kelly's out, you know, Glaskar is a little banged up,
and we need somebody off the ball just just to
fill because like I said, our defensively for the most part,
absolutely dismantles, you know, and they were doing it there
is on it dismantling their offensive front. I don't know
if you guys caught the play where there is a
power play and Logan absolutely literally Ko ko talk the
dude out to where he's out of the game, their
offside guard because he hit them right under the chin
and just blocked them out. Which that's what you want. Sorry,
ladies and gentlemen. This is a violent game. And by
the way, Bogland did it with all the love, all
the passion that you'd never want somebody to deal with.
And so I mean that to me is like a
beautiful thing. And when you get that happening up front,
where you get Jake taking on two blocks, you get
you know, all the other guys kurkling, just penetrating and handling,
you know, the pressure where you're you're making the quarterback
step back or you make that running back change, change
speed and after shoveler feet, then you get the off
the ball guys sitting accordingly, it becomes a beautiful thing. Now,
they weren't perfect, but you saw glimpses there where they
can just choke the defense or excuse me, choking offense
out and absolutely take over a game regardless of what
offense does. And that's means a beautiful thing. And they're
just starting to get a feel for that and if
we can get more consistent there, this defense could really
be special. And obviously we get guys back with Jack
and so on and so forth. But yeah, Sarah really
elevating his game and coming out of that kind of
growth phase down into the we're going to affect the
game phase. That's a big time for us, and I
thought that was the day he did it. Hopefully that
continues into next week.
Speaker 4: kPa or sorry Brady Papinka Here on ESPN the fan
talking BYU versus U of a Keanu Tonavasa gets ejected
in this game due to targeting.
Speaker 5: I've had to field some questions about Keanu.
Speaker 4: Some people feel like, hey, is Keanu living up to
the hype that has that surrounded him. I'm like, look,
in tier, defensive linemen are unsung heroes. You have to
really evaluate the line of scrimmage weekend and week out.
Speaker 5: This is rivalry week.
Speaker 4: I imagine Keanu is going to have his best week of
practice and his best game of the season. But evaluate
Keanu's play thus far the year and what his potential
is in a rivalry week Holy War week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll give you two things that being very aware of.
First is his presidence alone has created a toughness, a
level of motor that these and tier guys have all
responded to. Like I think JT, especially the presence of Tonavasa,
has made JT a better player. JT right now is
playing out of his mind and a lot of people
in you understand, Like so as I mentioned about A. Sarah,
how he was kind of figuring things out for the
first two games and finally light bulb turned on yesterday,
excuse me on Saturday. It's hard to tell a lot
of times because you're not getting your backtors feeling correctly,
which we've had issues with that, then you're not going
to really notice what those defensive linemen are doing up
from I'm gonna tell you this, when you turned on
the film and you see a ton of astin there,
he's the ninety four, you see fifty five JT and Kirkland.
Now that he's come back, we create problems for every
offenseive line. They can't move us. We take on two dudes.
There was one play we took on three gaps, three dudes. Yeah,
I think it was JT took on three dudes. It
ended up being a kind of a rough place for
us because we didn't get some good off the ball fit,
but it's like what else do you want from these
guys to do?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: And then they're pushing the pocket in the pass game,
you know. And so I mean it's he's been as
advertised kind of offer has and I think he's been
even more so than just his stats on the field,
there is even his presence on the field in terms
of his production. He's influencing guys around him to play better.
We've had we haven't had an interior front play as
well as they are right now in the history view
or your football just so everybody can kind of put
that into perspective. So, yeah, he's he's been more than
worth it. This guy's special and I'm really excited to
see him play against his former teammates.
Speaker 4: Offensively, Bear had to tote the ball twenty two times
in order to get this victory. Some people, you know,
they were they were thinking, hey, like eventually we got
to find an RB too. It's working. The rush games
were that was a stingy you of a defense. I
think the most they had given up all season was
I believe one hundred and sixteen yards on the ground.
B Why you put up two hundred and sixty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think you got to do whatever
you got to do, you know, And I think Roderick
knows that, and Bear understands that. Bear's tough man. I
mean his ability to accelerate, change the direction, and then
is I just think the overall girth of his body
is hard and people don't understand that. Like I don't
know if you guys remember Betterroethlisberger, but he was one
of the toughest guys to sack. And the reason is
is because when you had his flapjacket on, which protects
his rids, with already his big you know, kind of
like barrel body, you can't wrap your arms around him.
That's a tough guy to bring down. And the Bears
got that from foot to his head to toe. And
so I mean you saw on both of those touchdown runs.
Is that the one to steal the game? And then
also one there at the end that if you're coming
in from the side as a defender, you really are
going to have aime getting him down. You have to
butt him up straight on to have a chance to
slow his momento at if not, he's gonna run right
through your tackle and I mean, if you look at
the last couple of weeks, he he six guys missed
on a few runs that are really good tacklers otherwise
just because of his lower body strength to girl, So
I don't know why you you know, I'm about twenty
three is fine? That guy is made to pound the ball.
I mean he is Tim Tebow on steroids. I mean
except yeah, but I think Tim Tebow can pass better,
you know, because he's very very similar skill set, except
he's a better passer. You know, He's not Taysom Hill
that I takem Hills the superhero. I don't think anybody's
gonna be like Jayson Hill. But man, Tim people, I
think lower body stuff to bring down. And like I said,
if you have to run him twenty times to win
a game, you're gonna do that. He's He's more than capable.
And I got to say this, man, at that last
touchdown run that we had with him to win the game,
you got to give Roderick a lot of credit. I
hope everybody, if you could look at the twenty two
or go back on your you know, whatever TV service
you use and watch this play, I want you to
know something from the offensive perspective that free wide receivers
out to the left. Okay, you was in ban demand.
They motioned out to where there's now a four receiver
side and on the backside where they run the ball.
Guess what, it was completely vacated. That wasn't by accident,
and there was pretty much only one guy who was there.
One guy, and he did not have an angle. That
was Paul Roderick setting that up with the trips to
the left posting out of LJ and he knew, man,
if we could run on the backside, we got numbers,
we got more blockers base well, we got a blocker
for each defender plus there and that was the reason
why he got in the end though. So I mean
you can't just you know, players make plays. But also, man,
you got to give credit to these coaches for putting
these guys in position and setting them up for success,
which Broderick did on that last play.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've made some declarative statements about a Rod this season.
I stated preseason, this is the year that a Rod
proves to everyone that he is a phenomenal play caller.
Speaker 5: He's got a true freshman quarterback.
Speaker 4: He lost his red shirt senior quarterback right before kickoff
of the season. He didn't even get a spring ball
with his quarterback, and now look at what he's doing
with a true freshman quarterback.
Speaker 3: Crazy, crazy, It's just mind blowing. It doesn't happen. Ladies
and gentlemen, all that can hear my voice, This is
an anomaly. This does not happen. If you want to
know how it looks, go look at Michigan, Go look
at other schools who have had true freshman start even
us at you are, you've never seen this, And you
bring up such a valid point. There's no springball, very
limited time after the spring boath to do much because
of the restrictions at the NCAA puts on these guys
and the coaching, and then in training camp you're you're
kind of having a competition to start off the first
couple of weeks, so he's not getting the full reps
with the first team. And now you go out there
with P four schedule and you have him in two
scenarios and two very difficult places to play, in Colorado
and in Arizona. But two good teams. Calade is a
good team. I mean they just beat I was excuse me,
uh I was stay yeah at beet Iowa State and
they're down, and yet they find he helps lead the
comeback to win both those games with both his arm
and his legs. Because he can't forgive out his arm
then he just can't. I don't. I don't know if
you remember that fourth and seventh play. Can I I'm
gonna describe that fourth and seventh player for everybody. You're
on the right hash. Remember in college football, hash marks
are wider, okay, so you're on the right hash. There
was a route by h I believe it was Parker,
and he just ran a real quick butt took and
this was a timing butt hook for out. The defense
for U of A was in a cover three, so
you got a corner on the top of Parker. You
have a curl the flat fender that is buzzing or
trying to get underneath that out or or that butt
took by Parker. Bear throws from the opposite hash over
the top the undercover curl of flat defender in front
of the third defender right to the chest the Parker
first hand. And if you look at because on the
twenty two, which I get, if you can see the
reaction of Arizona, and they were just like boldy crack.
Their whole sideline was like petrified, Like what just what
I mean that throw is I don't care who you are.
That is a phenomenal throw and that's critical, that's forts,
that's the game. And you know so, I mean, everybody's
talking about Bear's feet, but no, his arm was just
as impressive, and especially when it mattered both.
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Welcome in former b YU great the quarterback scientist of
three DQB. We got John Beck on the line. John,
how that was your weekend?
Speaker 6: It was good, man.
Speaker 2: It was obviously full of football. Fun to watch the
Cougars get a big win. Sometimes I don't always get
to watch the game live because of my Popworner game
since so a lot of the times I'm watching the game,
you know, replayed and people have already texted me and
you know what, Hey, this is what happened or this
or that, you know, Like, I love just getting to
sit there with my boys and watch the game live
and watching DYU have a comeback win on the road.
Speaker 6: It was It was a great way to finish off
the night.
Speaker 2: It was awesome.
Speaker 5: John.
Speaker 4: What was the most rushing attempts you ever had in
your BYU career in a game?
Speaker 5: Do you remember?
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, you know that's kind of a
I just know that in my first two years as
a starter, we struggled to run the football and so
a lot of the times, and truly it's kind of
how I find I found my way on the field
as a freshman was because of my involvement in some
of the running game type stuff. We would run a
lot of gun speed option. We had some built in
QB design runs my freshman year where even the games
I wasn't starting, I would get put in the game
to run some of these design runs. So I don't
know about how many, you know, times I ran it,
but I I do know those first two years, just
trying to find ways to get yards, we would utilize
the QB run game, And I mean, I don't know,
I definitely wasn't running at twenty two or however many
times Bear Man, that's for Dyke, Sure, twenty two times.
Speaker 6: I think it was.
Speaker 4: Through the third quarter in this game, he had only
ran the ball seven times, and I tweeted out at
the end of the third quarter, I'm like, hey, Bear
is averaging, you know, in the teams sometimes getting up
into fifteen or so carries, and I'm like, I feel
like they're gonna run him a little bit, even though
they're playing from behind, inclement weather on the road.
Speaker 5: Couple I iNTS.
Speaker 4: I was like that they're gonna start running him in
some ways shape before I didn't think it would be
twenty two though, in order to win the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, And look, I don't think that that's the
game plan to say, hey, let's let's go run Bear
close to twenty five times this game to kickoffs kind
of some hard dig twelve games, right, that's a lot
of hits that a quarterback is taken in the run game.
Speaker 6: But what I think happened is you have weather issues,
you know.
Speaker 2: Yes, Bear had a couple turnovers, and I think that
the completion percentage, right, it was just I don't want
to call it an off night because he had some
really really good throws, But it was for a young quarterback,
probably the first time this year that things weren't going
pretty smooth. For the most part, BYU's passing attack has
been able to, you know, keep Bear in a place
where he's doing a lot of safe throws. A lot
of the throws are we know where.
Speaker 5: We want to go.
Speaker 6: If it's not there, we go to the outlet, or
it's quick screens.
Speaker 2: That game on Saturday was actually requiring him to I
think see a little bit more.
Speaker 6: If you go into the lineage of.
Speaker 2: The defensive coordinator for that team and how he came up,
there's a lot of rocky long New Mexico San Diego
State like that defense, like.
Speaker 6: You have to see a lot.
Speaker 2: They're going to throw a lot of different looks at you,
and at times you don't get the cleanest coverage details
and that's by design. And so you know, it showed
a little bit a young quarterback kind of having those
moments of some adversity, and I think what Byu did
was very smart. You are a I think a top
fifteen rushing attack in the country with LJ. Martin the
offensive line. You have a quarterback that is really good
carrying the football. How do we take some of this
pressure off him so that we're not throwing it on
his shoulders to try to come back and win.
Speaker 6: We're not asking him to see the defense perfectly.
Speaker 2: We're not asking him to have pinpoint perfect throws in
a difficult weather game. Let's lean on one of our
biggest strengths, and that's the run game. And it's Bear
Bachmeier Layton games. Running the football. If you want to
talk about where Bear is comfortable. And I know that Ben,
you and I have had this conversation before of just
how he played in high school. Bear did so many
things in high school utilizing his legs late in games.
At San Clemente, he torched us twice in really close
games late in games and even overtime with what he's
able to do with him his legs, and he did
that on Saturday night.
Speaker 6: For BYU, how.
Speaker 4: Would you describe the play calling in this game? Then
let's evaluate a Rod what he was doing late in
the game. He received a little bit of criticism for
you know, time management, but it seemed like that kept
Bear Bachmeier more so in a groove and maybe even
allowed LJ to get a reprieve. I mean, LJ was
probably pretty tired in this game, having totoe twenty five times,
so going into a.
Speaker 5: Huddle not in hurry up.
Speaker 4: You have a few issues with turnovers and inclement weather.
It seemed like a Rod was really calculated, very stoic,
very calm, and you saw that maybe with Bear and
the play calling.
Speaker 2: Give me your eval well, I think when you look
at some of the plays that Bear, you know, maybe
slightly missed on or like one of the interceptions, you know,
the one interception that was you know, a snap that
was you know, through his hands, if you want to
call it bosch, Like he's trying to make a play.
He sees a guy that flashes hands. We always tell
receivers you have to be so careful when you flash
hands and you think you're so wide open because you
don't really truly realize what coverages around you. Sometimes as
a quarterback, when a guy flashes hands, you like, you
see that. And so I think there there was a
moment where he was trying to you know, he probably
felt that the team was down and he's trying to
make plays and then it ends up resulting in a
negative play. So I think it's smart if you can
create a feeling in a game that even though you're down,
you don't feel rushed. That's going to help a young
quarterback when you're talking calmly through the headset. You know,
it's crazy now in college football that they have headsets.
You know, that's all pro from my era. But when
you can communicate clearly in a non rush tone, a
non panic tone, to a young player.
Speaker 6: That helps.
Speaker 2: So what I would say to the criticism is you know,
if there's criticism for why aren't they going faster, whatever
seconds might have been saved, there's a benefit to the
calmness of the approach. And yes, we can go back
right now and say, hey, it all worked out. And
the reason why that nobody's being too critical is because
it was a win. Well, what if you could get
into the mind of the quarterback and he is like, man,
that really helped me that it didn't feel rushed. The
other thing is there was a drive where they ran
every single play as a running play. So if you
want to keep the other team off the field, you
know you're gonna go constant run plays and late in
the game, you know you're going to go run, run heavy. Well,
take the time to let your offensive line have a
few more breaths, take the time to let your quarterback
who's running the football get a little bit of recovery
in the sports science of it. All right, we're going
to go with the one a run right here, the
clock's going to be going, why not just hey, let's
recover and then let's go attack. So I, you know,
I don't think there's anything wrong with it BYU made
the plays when they needed to Yes, there was some
fortunate ones. You know, when Bear put the ball on
the ground there close to the goal line BYU is fortunate.
I don't know the lineman's name that jumped on it,
but you know, you talk about big time plays, that
was a big time play for that guy to recover
that football, you know, Will Farrin. I loved the way
that he bounced back from the miss earlier in the game,
you know, to go into overtime and in three plays,
I think Dyu only lost yards if my memory is right.
I think it was like, was it fourth and thirteen?
Speaker 1: Was that?
Speaker 2: Was that? What it was when he had to go
kick the like forty four or forty five whatever it was?
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, that was that was kick.
Speaker 6: Oh it was a huge kick, guys.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just like when I was watching that.
How many times do we watch games where when a
team gets no positive yards and they put their kicker
in a forty five yard field goal just to send
it to another overtime?
Speaker 6: Is that kick missed?
Speaker 2: And for a kick to have missed an earlier one
to come out and nail it that, like, that's huge.
That was nails of that kid to do that. So
by you found a way in a lot of different
ways to win a game differently than they had won
all these previous games. And to me, when you talk
about special seasons, when you talk about maintaining a undefeated record,
there is usually always a game or two where that
stuff has to happen. A phase of the game is
not as good as it has been, and the other
phases and other players step up to make plays to
quite honestly preserve save it and find a way to win,
and defensively as well. I mean, so many good plays
were made late in that game. And that's where I
think if you want to look at a team's competitive nature,
you know, their belief that late in games they can
still win it. I think Kolani has done a tremendous
job of you know, and it's not a perfect record,
but I would say his teams as of late have
done such a good job of late in game as
opposed to leaning on panic or worry, they lean.
Speaker 6: On competitiveness and belief, and I think that's awesome.
Speaker 4: John Beck, former b YU Great talking some BYU Football
here on ESPN The Fan, brought to you by Odeon Men'swear.
Odeon Menswear dot Com John b Yu six and oh
back to back, in back to back seasons. I mean
that that's that's a feat. Man. It's the first time
in BYU football history, and that includes the the golden
era of the late seventies and early eighties, mid eighties,
where BYU seemed to be unstoppable.
Speaker 5: They had the best LDS.
Speaker 4: Recruits coming to them, they were throwing the ball at
a high level, and they were in a in the
whack right like they were in the whack.
Speaker 6: And that's what I was gonna see you what I mean?
Speaker 2: Conference, Yeah, I would add this is also the strongest conference.
Speaker 6: And I know that, like you know this year, BYU.
Speaker 2: Hasn't seen yet the tougher teams in the Big Twelve.
But regardless whether it's your non conference schedule, conference schedule,
to have a program with as many wins as BYU
has had over the years and as many great bowl
seasons and to say that BYU is for the first
time in history. I started off six and oh, there
are Big Twelve wins in those twelve games that we're
talking about six and oh last year, six and oh
this year. I think it's an amazing accomplishment for a
team that you know what years is.
Speaker 6: This year three or two?
Speaker 2: This year two in the Big twelve three three, Yeah,
you're three because Keidon had the first year, so year
three still kind of you're saying, this is new to
the conference a little bit, and to have two six
and oh starts, it's awesome. And to do it with
the freshman quarterback, Like I know that its has hasn't
been the toughest schedule, but for a freshman quarterback to
step in that was not with the program until June,
for the coaches to have confidence in him and for
him to go out and execute the offense regardless of
how it's shaped, regardless of how much has had to
be placed on his shoulders.
Speaker 6: In the past game.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. He's executing the offense, he's distributing the ball,
he's making very sound decisions. You know. The first game
that you saw some freshman this right, like putting the
ball on the ground in a run play, having a
snap go through his hands and kind of scrambling and
then forcing a ball like those are just football plays
that happen to everybody, you know.
Speaker 6: I mean, that's you know, but you tend to see
it a little bit more with young guys.
Speaker 2: I still think it's awesome what BYU has been able
to accomplish, and it's hats off to the program, to
the recruiting, to the culture, to the players that are there,
to you know, to Killanne as the head of all
of this. I mean, what an amazing era of BYU
football to be in the Big twelve. And I know
this sounds silly, but as a player that didn't get
to play in the Royal colors, I think it's also
awesome that all of this is happening. When BYU is
representing a jersey, a sticker of everything with the Royal
I just to me, like my childhood memories of watching
BYU football through an Intenda that my dad had in
the backyard and watching you know, those late eighties, early
nineties games and mid nineties and those jerseys. I mean,
our generation of kids, this is what's cool for me.
And I know I'm giving a really long answer. When
I sit on the couch with my kids and we
watch awesome BYU comebacks, I can't help but remember the
amazing moments that I got to witness.
Speaker 6: And it's like the same jerseys. It's just it's so
cool to me probably because.
Speaker 2: I never got to play in it, you know, and
I played that era of like just some strange jerseys
in a row. I think it's so cool the uniforms
that like bused rocking right now as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we finally at least got the two stripes on
the shoulder pad and a little bit of tradition with
this wretch y on our helmets.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, Bronco did an amazing job of bringing that back.
I still remember that press conference when they unveiled it,
and I remember this feeling of like, Dude, this is
awesome because that's what I grew up watching. Like quite honestly,
the quarterback that made me say that is absolutely what
I want to do for my entire life was tight Emm.
And uh, it's just it's it's got something special about it. John.
Speaker 4: We were able to pull stats, uh, bred Hammer and
Ronald the three man we were You actually toaded the
ball seventeen times in two games in two thousand and four.
Speaker 5: Do you remember those games? By chance?
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm gonna guess, hold on seventeen times.
Speaker 2: Hold on a seconds? Well, don't I think that's sacks
count as that too?
Speaker 6: Don't they don't?
Speaker 2: They count as that because like I think, because like
I don't even know if my career rushing yard which
is in the positive, because I think I think that
the sacks go against the rushing yard is but if
I had yeah they do, yeah, yeah they do. But yeah,
but if I had to guess, I think against Boise State,
we were struggling to run the ball and I remember,
uh because I had a turf toe and I remember
just running feeling like bro I am like beat up
and I'm run.
Speaker 6: In the option and was is that one of them?
Yot one of them?
Speaker 5: And what else?
Speaker 6: Boise State?
Speaker 2: Uh, possibly New Mexico at the end of the year
to try to get some wins.
Speaker 4: Ye eligible seventeen man, that's a lot of hits, John,
That's a lot of hits.
Speaker 5: Whether it's sacks or rush is speed hops, you know.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna I'm going to use this to talk
about bear Bachmeer because I don't like talking.
Speaker 6: About my own stuff on the radio.
Speaker 2: But like in like in those like in that era,
I remember feeling like I was not utilized as a
rushing quarterback in high school. I mean we ran a
little bit, but you wouldn't have ever been like, Oh,
that guy's gonna end up going and being a dull
threat guy.
Speaker 6: But because I was.
Speaker 2: Such a late developer on my mission, all of a
sudden strength and speed and all of this kind of
like came back. So like, as a youth player, I
ran a ton, but in high school I hardly did.
And then it came back when I finally matured, And
so that was, like I said, that was my way
to be on the field, was running around a ton,
But I quite honestly did not have much experience in
high school playing that style of football. Now this is
where it comes to Bear. Bear entered football as a
running back.
Speaker 6: Bear all throughout.
Speaker 2: High school was utilized a ton. I bet every season
except his senior year. He was deemed up a little
bit and he had to miss a bunch of games.
But I would almost bet that kid was running between
five hundred to seven hundred and fifty yards and probably
carrying the ball one.
Speaker 6: Hundred plus a season.
Speaker 2: So you take somebody with that type of running experience,
you know there's a shiftiness. I'll use Zach Wilson. Go
watch Zach Wilson's high school highlights. He is running and
scrambling all over the place. Why was he a good
runner in scrambler in college because he had tons of
experience doing it. Now go to the play caller. A
Rod knows where Bear has tons of experience. The way
to help a guy handle pressure situation, put him in
situations he's been in before. It's like, you don't ask
the Air Force, army or Navy quarterback to go bring
you back from a twenty one point deficit throwing the
football all the time.
Speaker 6: That's not where they have their experience.
Speaker 2: And so I think there was a savviness and a
really smart moves by a Rod to recognize where his
young quarterback was at and say here's where I know
the play calls will help him, and he's comfortable in
that space.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been It's been fun to watch the utilization
of Bear's skill sets and and quite honestly, Bear enjoys that.
I mean I think even on that fake sprint out
keeper that he tucked and ran for a touch, I
mean like he loves that diving across the goal line
like that. I mean that gets that dude hyped and elevated.
And he's he's a pretty stoic young man.
Speaker 6: So I don't think that was a fake rollout.
Speaker 2: I don't legitimate that's a two yeah, that's a two way.
So what they do is they give you, like if
you can take that quick pick, that quick now pick,
because what they're doing is they're sending one person along
the line of scrimmage that allows you to block everybody,
so you can pick the defender over him if it's
not there. They want the quarterback. Number one is the throw.
Number two is the quarterback run. I think why Bear
cut it up so quick was because that outside edge
got extended, and so as soon as he saw that
that pick play wasn't there, he just put his foot
in the ground. Again. Going back to Bear's experience, I mean,
I wish I could shows like highlights of the kid
like it happened.
Speaker 6: So many times, so many times that he.
Speaker 2: Would do that, and so I think that's where he
knew right away the look.
Speaker 6: And here's the other thing.
Speaker 2: Young quarterbacks, when they enter college football and they're playing
an offense that has so many things that are different
from what they've done, different reads, different progressions.
Speaker 6: A lot of the times young quarterbacks are trying.
Speaker 2: To gain the experience of seeing what it looks like
because they haven't been in that situation before. So a
young guy that hasn't been in that situation before, he's
actually gonna put his foot in the ground a step
later there.
Speaker 6: He's not going to see it as defined.
Speaker 2: But somebody that's been in that situation maybe has had
similar plays in high school that are we're going to.
Speaker 6: Give you this look and then you're gonna take off
and go.
Speaker 2: They actually play a step ahead because they've seen that
look so many times, they've repped it more.
Speaker 6: And that's that's the cool part about experience.
Speaker 2: Experience allows you, even when you're not faster speed wise,
you can play the game a step faster because you've
seen it, you've experienced it.
Speaker 6: And you've felt it.
Speaker 2: And that's why I think you know for him, he
made such a quick decision and that people.
Speaker 6: Thought like, oh, that must be designed. No, no, it's
still one to.
Speaker 2: The pick play.
Speaker 6: Then he can quarterback run right there.
Speaker 4: John Beck, he're on ESPN the Fan, John, A couple
last things before we let you go. This b way
you foot team is winning with complimentary football, offense, defense,
and special teams, and you alluded to that in some
of your comments earlier in this interview. Like, what stands
out to you about this team as a collective. You
gave a lot of credit to Kilani. Obviously you got
to give credit to all these coaches that are essentially
governing their their own team. Obviously A Rod on the offense,
Jay Hill on the defense, and then k Pop on
the special teams. But really, what stands out to you
about this complimentary style of team over the last few
years under Klane.
Speaker 2: Well, something that I really like is this football team
had high hopes and expect because last year, the belief
was this is the best team. Like, even though last
year's team had a great season, everybody kind of knew
that this year's team was going to be the really
special best team and they were excited for that. And
the reason I bring this point is because there are
a lot of teams that enter a season with high hopes,
with great expectations. I have done a lot of work
with the Penn State program because of their quarterback, and
I'm watching them go through something where they had playoff
in national championship hopes heading into the season, and you
look at the situation that they're in now. The coach
is no longer with the program. They're three and three.
Sometimes high hopes also bring a lot of expectation and pressure.
And I think what's really cool about this football team
is look how many smiles are on their faces. Look
at when a player makes a play, how many guys
are running down the sideline pumped up for him.
Speaker 6: I love the team that BYU is.
Speaker 2: I love the joy that they feel. I think it's
an embodiment of who Kilanie Sataki is. You look at
the fire of Kilane when he had a player that
was being accused of targeting and you saw him going
after the refs. You have to have that type of
fire intendency to play that game. That has to be
in the program carried by key players. But you also
have to have that team atmosphere, that chemistry, that love
of playing with your brother, that makes special teams really
come together and win games and critical moments because everybody's
playing for each other a certain way. And also I
talked about it earlier with the competitiveness, do you enjoy
the opportunity of coming from behind late in a game?
Does that level of competitiveness and grit it's going to
take to accomplish that, Does that excite you or are
you fearful? Of what the outcome could be if you
somehow lose, and what that might mean for your season.
Everybody experiences pressure with high expectations. Who enjoys it and
looks forward to the opportunities and who fills that pressure
mount week in and week out. I think this BYU
football team loves to play, loves to play for each other,
and has a belief that it's no matter what the
situation is, we have a way that we can come
back and battle and win. And you know when I
talked about those players playing for each other, because Preston
Rex is the San Clementy kid and we love the
Rex family, and you know, like anything those boys do
were following it. I loved when I saw Preston Rex
catch that catch that ball out into the flat the flat,
watch the sideline of people recognize how cool of a
moment was that for prep was for Preston and the team.
That is what creates that that that that bond between players,
that special teams, special teams have special.
Speaker 6: Bonds between players.
Speaker 2: And I think that when I watch by U, I
can see that and I think that's why games like
this game coming up, this Utah game, like this is
what it's going to take Utah's already what they're already
like a two and a half three point favorite or
something like that in our in BYU's own stadium. Right like,
this is going to be a challenge, big new kickoff
is going to be there, The atmosphere is going to
be electric, the fans are going to be going crazy,
The Rock is going to be doing everything they do.
Quite honestly, guys, I'm doing everything I can to try
to find a flight up there and crossing my fingers cross,
crossing my fingers that my boys Pop Warner games get
done early and I can get up there, because.
Speaker 6: I think it is going to be an awesome environment.
Speaker 2: Does that environment excite you as a team or does
that environment worry you as a team? Of what if
this season has a hiccup and I think Kilani's teams
they choose the first one. I think, by nature the
way that they're wired right now, they love opportunities like this.
Speaker 4: What's your message to the Cougar football team heading into
Rivalry week and the Holy War Week?
Speaker 2: Just be who you are when a team already has momentum,
which BYU does, just be who you are. I remember
it was my senior year and we had lost the
previous however many and I don't remember who was asking
me the interviews, but it was you know how you
kind of would sit on those chairs and you have
all the cameras around you and all the microphones that
are holding up their little things back then, and they're
asking me questions. And I just remember this feeling of
like you guys are talking to me as if this
is like somehow a different game, like the field stays
the same, the ball stays the same, Like it's like
it's a game that stays the same.
Speaker 6: We are going to be who we've been this entire year,
and trust it.
Speaker 2: And you know, we and we were in a game
when we were down late and had to have that
hope and that belief and all those things. And because
of that, it's been a special game for us that
we're on that team. And I think, DYU guys, like, guys,
you know, just be who you've been this whole time.
You guys have so many good things going for you
right now. Keep playing for each other, keep the excitement going.
You don't have to add pressure again. I hope I'm
not answering too long, but I'll just kind of give
insight when I help players play for big games, like
it's a quarterback playing in the Michigan Ohio State game,
it's a quarterback playing in a Rose Bowl, it's a
quarterback playing in a playoff college game. When I have
conversations with them, we always talk about what can we
do to depressurize the situation. We hold the tools within
ourselves as an individual and also collectively as a team,
to the way that we commut municate with each other,
the way that we communicate on our own minds. How
do we depressurize the situation so we can go perform
at our best. Unfortunately, when pressure mounts, people.
Speaker 6: Can have bad tactics.
Speaker 2: They don't use the right tools, and they over pressurize
the situation and they don't realize they've done it. And
then so they try to turn to well, I'll work
really hard, I'll just I'll try to do this extra
I'll and they're heaping so much pressure on themselves. What
are your tactics to depressurize situations and just be you?
I love the thing of great players. We don't remember
them because they go over and beyond in those pressure moments.
Speaker 6: We remember them because.
Speaker 2: They are who they are, who they've always been. In
those pressure moments, the pressure doesn't make them significantly drop.
And I think that's the key.
Speaker 6: Just be you. Just go play this big time game
and just be you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, there's an info email. We get requests, We
get things all the time where people, you know, shoot
us information. Hey, you know I've trained with you guys.
Speaker 6: I know you guys have done this stuff.
Speaker 2: My son is experiencing.
Speaker 6: You know, there's so much pressure on him.
Speaker 2: Right now because it's the end of the season and
these wins for the playoffs and all this stuff.
Speaker 6: I mean, look, we can help in every area.
Speaker 2: Just shoot us an email. We have coaches that are
always always helping players improve and work to be their best,
and especially right now late in the season, even if
it's something like arm fatigue, spiral is getting a little
bit wobbly for some reason, it feels like I've lost
five yards on my deep ball all of those things happen,
and there's things that.
Speaker 4: We can do to help John Beck, Ladies and gentlemen,
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Speaker 5: Get the things for hopping on.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you guys are welcome.
Speaker 5: John Beck, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 4: Hopefully he's able to arrive in style, maybe a little
bit late, but prior to kickoff in this Holy War
down in Provo.
Speaker 5: He would love it. He's he's making sure you know,
there's a.
Speaker 4: Flight available, probably be pretty costly to head kind of
in a in a late in a late afternoon type
of game, you know, without this being pre planned.
Speaker 5: But hopefully he can get down to rep the y
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