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Speaker 3: guest today is the man himself, Jeff Harman. Jeff, Welcome
Speaker 3: to the Truth to Cold podcast. Man, how are you?
Speaker 3: I'm doing good? Having a video with a video issue here.
Speaker 3: Why can't hear you, Jeff, you're pretty low. Jeff, Jeff,
Speaker 3: you're there, man, hear me now, No, it still sounds
Speaker 3: like you're far away. What to say here? We just
Speaker 3: had a computer. Let's see. I don't see your video
Speaker 3: or hear you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hang on where.
Speaker 3: All right? Okay, I hear you.
Speaker 1: Okay, now you can hear me.
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 1: Let's see if we can get the video back here. Now,
Speaker 1: the video is not coming in. What happened is the
Speaker 1: computer went down. I don't know why. So let's see
Speaker 1: if we can't get that to work, well, we may
Speaker 1: have to do it just with audio. Okay, am I
Speaker 1: coming to clear on the audio? Yeah, you sound good
Speaker 1: on the audio, just no video. Maybe try turning the
Speaker 1: video off and back on. See if it picks me back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have been. I've actually been. There. We go. We
Speaker 1: got it, fantastic.
Speaker 3: All right, technically the difficulties of doing a live stream
Speaker 3: way it is. It's real life. Yeah, what's going on? Brother?
Speaker 3: How are you today?
Speaker 1: I'm doing very good, very good. Thanks thanks for having
Speaker 1: me on.
Speaker 3: Do you work in radio?
Speaker 1: Do I work in radio? I do a lot of radio.
Speaker 1: I used to do a lot of radio commercials. I
Speaker 1: had a recording studio for years, and we did a
Speaker 1: lot of commercials, but I never did a lot of narration.
Speaker 1: Everybody says I should do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got the perfect voice. I know. I was
Speaker 3: on your website and seeing some of the different media
Speaker 3: appearances that you've been on in you definitely have a
Speaker 3: wide range and list of some amazing shows that you've
Speaker 3: been on, and so you definitely are no stranger to
Speaker 3: the podcast in radio world though, right.
Speaker 1: Right, right, Yeah, it's been a lot of fun, good stuff.
Speaker 3: So when I've seen your bio and some of the
Speaker 3: stuff that you bring to the table, it's a little
Speaker 3: bit of everything. It's a little bit of everything that
Speaker 3: we talk about on the show. So I'd like to
Speaker 3: cover at all. You was talking about where we can start.
Speaker 3: What's a good place to tackle. I think astrology it
Speaker 3: seems to be one of your strong points, and wondering
Speaker 3: if maybe we can talk about that from a beginner's
Speaker 3: standpoint for somebody who was just totally green to astrology
Speaker 3: and how it affects our lives and things like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, you know, that's an interesting topic.
Speaker 1: I was actually a skeptic of astrology. It was in
Speaker 1: the mid seventies. I had just gotten my driver's license.
Speaker 1: I'm dating myself here, and my mother was very accurate
Speaker 1: at describing issues with girlfriends to the point to where
Speaker 1: I said, what are you doing. I said, this is
Speaker 1: way past mother's intuition. And she said, well, I've got
Speaker 1: their charts. I said, well, what do you mean you
Speaker 1: have their charts. She says, well, I'm doing their astrology.
Speaker 1: And I said, well, come on. I said, that stuff
Speaker 1: doesn't work right. And I've always been into mystics's since
Speaker 1: a young child, but I never knew that astrology could really,
Speaker 1: you know, interact with the real world. And she said,
Speaker 1: she kind of laughed, and she said, well before you
Speaker 1: debunk it, try it. And that's when I started studying it.
Speaker 1: And I was at the time very much into like
Speaker 1: most young guys are. You know, it's motorcycles and horses.
Speaker 1: I grew up in the north Woods of Wisconsin. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like Duke's Hazard up there, you know where
Speaker 1: it's just a really rural place. And long story short,
Speaker 1: the more I got into it, it really intrigued me.
Speaker 1: And then as the eighties came in, I really started
Speaker 1: studying with many different people and it started dovetailing back
Speaker 1: into many mystical experiences that I had when I was
Speaker 1: a child, Like I did an astral travel when I
Speaker 1: was about seven or eight years old. It was somewhere
Speaker 1: in that area, and my mother had said to me,
Speaker 1: you know, you probably astro projected. I had a little
Speaker 1: guinea pig that died in a cage, and I was
Speaker 1: dreaming that I was standing actually, and I saw it,
Speaker 1: and then I woke up and I ran down the
Speaker 1: stairs and it was exactly that way. So that was
Speaker 1: kind of my beginning of my mystical journey. And I
Speaker 1: read voraciously many many books and studied many many things.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because throughout my life I've always been
Speaker 1: brought to a lot of different spiritual and religious things
Speaker 1: of varied types. I got to work with Mother Teresa
Speaker 1: of Calcutta in the early early eighties, I think it
Speaker 1: was seventy nine or eighty, right when she had won
Speaker 1: the Nobel Peace Prize. I actually was on my company.
Speaker 1: We actually recorded and filmed her, and I was doing
Speaker 1: a series of different things with a lot of theologians
Speaker 1: from Rome's and I've done a lot of things with
Speaker 1: rabbinical texts and studying and recording people through the studio,
Speaker 1: So it was a lot of fun for me, and
Speaker 1: it's really something that found me, particularly in the nineties.
Speaker 1: I found that when I got into vedic astrology and
Speaker 1: some of the more ancient Egyptian astrologies in the late
Speaker 1: eighties and early nineties is when it really started taking
Speaker 1: off for me. And I've really never advertised or pushed
Speaker 1: or written any books yet, and it just I'm kind
Speaker 1: of amazed. I have clients from all over the world
Speaker 1: and business clients, and I do a lot of different
Speaker 1: I have clients in the government and military and business,
Speaker 1: and a lot of personal readings. And I think where
Speaker 1: it all ends up for me is everyone seeking, Like
Speaker 1: I like the name of your show, Truthsick, We're all
Speaker 1: seeking to find out who the heck we are. I
Speaker 1: think vedic astrology is one area that really helps explain
Speaker 1: who we are as souls having a physical experience, And
Speaker 1: to me, I think that's something we're all, you know,
Speaker 1: either actively or somehow subconsciously seeking because you know, there's
Speaker 1: a challenging place to be, but it's also an amazing
Speaker 1: place to be.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, uh man, I you know appreciate those
Speaker 3: genesis stories man of where like tracing it back to
Speaker 3: where it started. And usually you know, someone when you
Speaker 3: were a child, I had some type of supernatural, otherworldly experience,
Speaker 3: and for me, I trace everything back to my childhood
Speaker 3: and this seed was planned, something was birthed in me
Speaker 3: when I, you know, was four or five years old.
Speaker 3: Having this experience in the middle of the night with
Speaker 3: shadow beings and things like that, it just I think
Speaker 3: it opens you up to ask ask the bigger questions,
Speaker 3: and so you do, do you trace everything back to
Speaker 3: that first experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had a lot of experiences. A lot of
Speaker 1: people would say they're UFOs or I've had a lot
Speaker 1: of experiences with demons and spirits and angels, and it's
Speaker 1: been pretty wild stuff. And that really got me into
Speaker 1: studying that stuff, particularly in the eighties, and I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone can ever stop studying that stuff. It's very humbling.
Speaker 1: One of the models that I always really found was very,
Speaker 1: very instructive was the Kabbalistic models, the very ancient ones.
Speaker 1: When you get into the Enochian, very ancient texts, many
Speaker 1: of the ancient Hebrew texts are very informaive, like the
Speaker 1: Sepher Ratzil is actually a book from the archangel Rotzil,
Speaker 1: and that's probably some of the earliest astrology. Many people
Speaker 1: believe that it came from Adam and the whole genesis story,
Speaker 1: like you were saying, and it really ancient astrology is
Speaker 1: so much I think richer than modern astrology. And I
Speaker 1: don't mean to bash modern astrology. Most people know their
Speaker 1: sun signs right, but in vadic astrology, you're likely not
Speaker 1: to be the sun sign that you were in tropical astrology.
Speaker 1: Like everyone will say, I'm a liber arm a scorpiel,
Speaker 1: in vadic astrology, it's using a sidereal zodiac. And if
Speaker 1: I may here, I'll just show you if you can
Speaker 1: allow me to do screen sharing, I could actually put
Speaker 1: something on the screen here. That's kind of interesting. This
Speaker 1: is a diagram I often use in sessions with people.
Speaker 1: And of course zoom today is such an amazing tool.
Speaker 1: I have, you know, clients all over the world that
Speaker 1: I'm able to share things with. And there's a model
Speaker 1: where our solar system is going around the central Sun.
Speaker 1: It's known as the procession of the equinoxes. It happens
Speaker 1: about every twenty six thousand years, is about twenty five
Speaker 1: thousand and seven hundred and something years. No one's completely
Speaker 1: in agreement, and yeah, you just allow me to share it.
Speaker 1: That's perfect. So what you'll see here, and probably the
Speaker 1: best diagram to show you is this one right here.
Speaker 1: You can actually see this is the solar system if
Speaker 1: you will, in glyph form, this is the sun alti Pluto,
Speaker 1: and you can see this is the central Sun. Well,
Speaker 1: we go around that every twenty five thousands have earned
Speaker 1: something years and NASA has corobrated that. It's actually they say,
Speaker 1: we're doing almost a half of a billion miles an
Speaker 1: hour around it, so fast so that the planets are
Speaker 1: spiraling well. In Vedic astrology they use this outer wheel
Speaker 1: and also a lunar zodiac. And the whole premise of
Speaker 1: ada astrology is that were spiritual beings having a physical
Speaker 1: experience and you could see the soul force energy leaving
Speaker 1: death to rebirth, and of course on and on and
Speaker 1: on over the hills. And the real name of Ata
Speaker 1: castrology is actually called Joe Tisha, which means that's a
Speaker 1: Sanskrit word that actually means the science of the light
Speaker 1: of the soul. And I have to say it really,
Speaker 1: it really is. It's very amazing because all of us
Speaker 1: are here by the premise of ada astrology, purifying and
Speaker 1: rectifying the soul. And when I got into that branch
Speaker 1: of astrology, it really changed my viewpoint and it made
Speaker 1: me say, wow, we really are spiritual beings having this
Speaker 1: physical experience. Well, one of my favorite diagrams to show
Speaker 1: is this one. No matter which your religious faith is,
Speaker 1: everyone believes, well, let's hope, everyone believes that there's a
Speaker 1: God right and God is a course above all creation,
Speaker 1: and it is believed that our souls are created right
Speaker 1: about here. And there's no astrology up here. This is
Speaker 1: called this is an Aramaic or Hebrew word called absolute,
Speaker 1: which means divinity. And they say there's forty nine dimensions
Speaker 1: in forty nine subdimensions. And we've all heard of the seraphims,
Speaker 1: the cherubims, the thrones, and the ore fantoms that surround
Speaker 1: the throne of God. Beneath that there's briah, which is
Speaker 1: an Aramaic word or Hebrew word that means actually creation.
Speaker 1: So this is divinity creation. And they say there's forty
Speaker 1: nine dimensions in forty nine dimensions here. And of course
Speaker 1: these are the classes of angels that are believed to
Speaker 1: rule this. It's way down here in what they call
Speaker 1: the yetserratic worlds or the world of Yetsira, and that
Speaker 1: is an Aramaic or Hebrew word that means formation. This
Speaker 1: is where the rotating galaxies are and the the you know,
Speaker 1: the planets, and all the black holes and all the
Speaker 1: physical stuff physics refers to. And that's and they say
Speaker 1: there could be forty nine parallel dimensions in the universe
Speaker 1: and forty nine subdimensions in each one, which is almost
Speaker 1: incomprehensible when you think about that, and our Milky Way
Speaker 1: just as a little picture of that may be way
Speaker 1: way down here, and of course our solar systems on
Speaker 1: the edge of it, and the last worlds is a
Speaker 1: saya is the astral planes. It is the place of
Speaker 1: demons and spirits and goats, ghosts, and of course that's
Speaker 1: where assayah means action. This is where the spiritual action
Speaker 1: really intermixes to the earth. And of course we've all
Speaker 1: heard of the fallen demons. A lot of people say
Speaker 1: it's just the devil, Well, it's actually Lucid for Satan
Speaker 1: Blilah Leviathan, And I think what I like about a
Speaker 1: model like this is. You know, even though different cultures
Speaker 1: do this differently, Like if you get into Vedantic or
Speaker 1: Tibetan or many other models, they're similar, different names, but similar.
Speaker 1: And what we find is who are we? Well, if
Speaker 1: our souls are created up here, we're certainly not our astrology.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. We are at the effect
Speaker 1: of the karmic energies of our astrology. And that's kind
Speaker 1: of why in this plate it shows the psyche spirit
Speaker 1: and souls kind of spiritual dna reincarnating over and over
Speaker 1: and over again until we purify and rectify the blemishes
Speaker 1: in the soul. And that's the philosophy. And I actually
Speaker 1: think that that is correct. I mean, look at the planet.
Speaker 1: There's so many things going on here. It's constant war
Speaker 1: and division and all that, and yet it's so many
Speaker 1: wonderful things going on on this planet, you know.
Speaker 3: Man, very interesting. I know that astrology is the way
Speaker 3: to go. I know that it's telling our stories. It's
Speaker 3: telling the story that we're that we're journeying on collectively
Speaker 3: and individually spiritually. It's playing out in the stars and
Speaker 3: those things, and so I know that we everyone should
Speaker 3: should at least look into it to some degree. When
Speaker 3: I look at the Vedic stuff versus you know, classical
Speaker 3: or whatever, what we have now, it actually looks like
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of gebras. It's really hard for me.
Speaker 3: I don't know where to start. It can't be Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: it looks it looks intimidating, I'll say that is it
Speaker 3: it hard? Is it hard? Do you have to be
Speaker 3: a master? Do you really have to give your life
Speaker 3: over to it? Or is it something that anyone can
Speaker 3: pay up and just with a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think anyone could pick it up. The key is,
Speaker 1: like anything, to be good at anything, you have to
Speaker 1: have the dedication to learn. The biggest issue with Veda
Speaker 1: astrology or Joe Tishyae is there's many branches of it,
Speaker 1: and I think the nomenclature is the hardest thing because
Speaker 1: you're dealing with a very ancient, ancient science that comes
Speaker 1: from that. There's many people who believe it could be
Speaker 1: an ancient form of Tamil. Then it migrated into Sanskrit,
Speaker 1: then it's now blended with Hindi, so you're dealing with
Speaker 1: an ancient culture. We have to transpose all these terminologies
Speaker 1: into English to just comprehend it. It's vast there's many branches.
Speaker 1: There's maharishi Parashara, which was probably the main most people
Speaker 1: studying Veda astrology would study parashaar' that's the main one.
Speaker 1: Then there's Maharishi Jaimini, there's Tajika, there's Prashana. Prashna is divinational.
Speaker 1: It literally is answering question. And then you have Maherta,
Speaker 1: which is electional astrology picking times to get married, picking
Speaker 1: times to take a trip, or picking times to you know,
Speaker 1: commence an event. And that's called electional astrology in the West.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a whole other world, it really is.
Speaker 1: And I started BC before computers, and I always like
Speaker 1: to tell the story. I had one teacher he's now gone,
Speaker 1: amazing guy, and what happened. He said, Jeff, you must
Speaker 1: always cast chart by hand. So we would draw the
Speaker 1: charts out, you know, and color in all the planets
Speaker 1: from the what they call it ephemeris or ponchanga. And
Speaker 1: he says, see, now you get the feel of this.
Speaker 1: And then I think it was in the late nineties,
Speaker 1: like somewhere around ninety seven to ninety nine, I came
Speaker 1: in with the first Vedic astrology program on a laptop
Speaker 1: and he's got like, oh my god. He goes, that
Speaker 1: is so fast. He said, that's amazing. He says, I
Speaker 1: want to copy. I said no, no, no, grasshopper, just
Speaker 1: to always cast start by hand, and he started laughing.
Speaker 1: He goes, no, no, I want to I want to copy.
Speaker 1: I says, yes, you do. So computers have really revolutionized astrology,
Speaker 1: and it's wonderful because people studying it they get these
Speaker 1: programs and they're just daunted. They're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: what do I do? All these different terms and things
Speaker 1: that you can do. And the problem with astrology programs
Speaker 1: is you have to set them up appropriately. There's so
Speaker 1: many different settings and once you get them right, very
Speaker 1: very amazing tool to have because you can I can
Speaker 1: calculate things now in seconds that used to take me
Speaker 1: literally forty five minutes.
Speaker 3: Can you use all of them? All of what the
Speaker 3: different modes of astrology, like the like the classical ones
Speaker 3: that we have now versus some of the different the
Speaker 3: Vedic or whatever.
Speaker 1: I do. My main core go to systems are location astrology,
Speaker 1: which I find absolutely amazing. Location astrology is extrapolating your
Speaker 1: here I'll show you people can actually see it. It's
Speaker 1: kind of nice to see the visual on this, so
Speaker 1: you can see here, I'm going to start a program,
Speaker 1: and this is one that I use a lot, and
Speaker 1: you can see here. This is literally a map that'll
Speaker 1: come up here and you can look anywhere in the
Speaker 1: world now, of course I'm looking at the US right now,
Speaker 1: and you could see you could see like any planet
Speaker 1: with mc rule's career, relationships are affected by the DS nomenclature.
Speaker 1: So you have the planets on what we call angle sunrise, noon, sunset, midnight,
Speaker 1: which is different for every individual. Every single person has
Speaker 1: their own unique footprint of energy based on the time
Speaker 1: they were brought in. And what's fascinating about that is
Speaker 1: you also have latitude crossings and then last but not least,
Speaker 1: you have transits. It's very complex, like you can actually
Speaker 1: see if I am make this, I'm going in monthly increments.
Speaker 1: Here you can see the planets moving back and forth.
Speaker 1: So as planets retrograde and go direct across the globe
Speaker 1: depending on where one lives, it drastically affects the energies
Speaker 1: coming in. And you also have what we call progressions too,
Speaker 1: So it's an amazing tool that's one that I use.
Speaker 1: The other one that I use a lot is interrogation astrology,
Speaker 1: which is synonymous with prashna. Interrogation means literally asking a
Speaker 1: question for instance. You know, I get this all the
Speaker 1: time where people are in various situations and they'll say,
Speaker 1: you know, is this relationship going to work out? Or
Speaker 1: where's my cat? Or you know, is my mother's health
Speaker 1: going to be okay? You can ask all kinds of questions,
Speaker 1: and you know, I can't give anyone medical or legal advice,
Speaker 1: but you can certainly get some really good insights into
Speaker 1: the probability of which way something is going to go.
Speaker 1: And that again, many people today call that horrorary. Horrorary
Speaker 1: is a Latinized word that means interrogation or questions, and
Speaker 1: I never liked that word, so I always call it interrogation,
Speaker 1: which is actually a hand me down from a very
Speaker 1: ancient astrologer named Rabbi ibn Isra, which I like a lot,
Speaker 1: and he kind of coined that phrase in the eleven hundreds.
Speaker 1: He was actually brought around by kings and queens in kingdoms,
Speaker 1: and he would work with generals in the king or
Speaker 1: the queen on many many different things. Also, electional times
Speaker 1: were used to pick times for coronations, laying foundations. In fact,
Speaker 1: there's actually a mirror where George Washington. Fact, you can
Speaker 1: see it right there.
Speaker 3: That was it.
Speaker 1: I just blew by it. Here there's a mirror where
Speaker 1: George Washington had laid the foundation in the United States
Speaker 1: Capital a very specific time. Where is it? I keep
Speaker 1: blowing by it here there.
Speaker 3: It is right there.
Speaker 1: So they actually laid the cornerstone of the capital at
Speaker 1: a very auspicious time. You can see he's got his
Speaker 1: Masonic apron on there and interesting stuff. So, you know,
Speaker 1: Benjamin Franklin, one of the fore founders or you could
Speaker 1: say founding framers, was adamant about using electional astrology. I
Speaker 1: find free will has to be in there that you know.
Speaker 1: I don't think people should live their life by astrology,
Speaker 1: but I think it's it's a very powerful tool to
Speaker 1: see when things can work out. And every time I
Speaker 1: haven't used it, I've seen disasters results in my life.
Speaker 1: And that's why I always go back and say, wow,
Speaker 1: I mean I should have used it, And it's pretty amazing.
Speaker 3: Are these cycles the same every year or or they
Speaker 3: different every year?
Speaker 1: Oh? God, this constantly changing. It's an absolute kaleidoscope of change.
Speaker 1: I mean, take the world right now. I have been
Speaker 1: you know, people years ago we're asking me. I was
Speaker 1: on coast to coast, got it had to be ten
Speaker 1: years ago or fifteen years ago. It was a long
Speaker 1: time ago. And several radio shows and everyone was asking me,
Speaker 1: what do you think of the Mayan calendar? And I
Speaker 1: said not much. I said, I can't come up with
Speaker 1: a single thing that is directly going to affect the
Speaker 1: world with the Mayan calendar. And of course twenty twelve
Speaker 1: came in. Twenty twelve went and you know, he said, well,
Speaker 1: when when does the astrology look like the cycles are coming?
Speaker 1: And you know, you mentioned Genesis and we talked a
Speaker 1: little bit about Enoch. Well, the ancient text in astrology
Speaker 1: said that God made changes to the world on Saturn
Speaker 1: Jupiter conjunctions, which anyone study astrology will know happens about
Speaker 1: every twenty years, but about every thousand years. They happened
Speaker 1: in very specific configurations. And on the radio shows, I said,
Speaker 1: the time that I would be concerned about the world
Speaker 1: going through transformation and change is twenty twenty. And they
Speaker 1: said why, I said, because we have a two hundred
Speaker 1: and forty year sub cycle of Saturn in Jupiter the
Speaker 1: last time, and that's exactly what happened this January. We
Speaker 1: had a Saturn plutal conjunction. Which do we have. We're
Speaker 1: all wearing masks. The whole country, the whole world was
Speaker 1: shut down, not just the country, and of course we
Speaker 1: had the pandemic breakout we've had. I'm kind of amazed
Speaker 1: at how accurate the astrology was this year. We had
Speaker 1: a Saturn plutal conjunction. Every time those happened, major transformations
Speaker 1: happened in the world. And at the end of this year,
Speaker 1: on the winter solstice of literally on December twenty first,
Speaker 1: this year, we have a two hundred and forty year
Speaker 1: Saturn Jupiter conjunction. And people say, well, what does that mean. Well,
Speaker 1: the last time we had something like that was the
Speaker 1: beginning of the Industrial Revolution, and we went from horses,
Speaker 1: you know, to literally flying through the skies and going
Speaker 1: to the moon and all the other things that we do.
Speaker 1: And look at the communications. You and I are sitting
Speaker 1: across the country with vivid clarity, hearing ourselves, you know,
Speaker 1: in excellent detail, and the world has changed, and I
Speaker 1: think we're going to see a high tech revolution that
Speaker 1: is going to be mind boggling over the next well,
Speaker 1: clearly in the next two hundred years, but for the
Speaker 1: next we're about ready to rocket forward. It's going to
Speaker 1: be like the Jetsons. I really think in ten twenty
Speaker 1: years we're going to be astounded at where we're at.
Speaker 1: And the astrology shows that, the cycle showing.
Speaker 3: Did you happen to watch that latest interview with Joe
Speaker 3: Rogan and Elam.
Speaker 1: No, he did not know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's there. They're trying to come up with the technology,
Speaker 3: which they already have it. They're just trying to implement
Speaker 3: it where they can put the biotips within the brains
Speaker 3: and fix your body, cure Alzheimer's dementia, will be no more,
Speaker 3: living longer, all types of its, allcom capabilities downloaded with
Speaker 3: the new program. Far to listen to that podcast, that's intriguing.
Speaker 3: It's beautiful and scary at the same time and scary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's the problem is it's a double
Speaker 1: edged sword. You know we're gonna see I personally think
Speaker 1: it's it's very interesting.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into politics because a lot
Speaker 1: of people love Trump a lot of people hate Trump,
Speaker 1: especially here in California. If I say anything that sounds
Speaker 1: like I like Trump, I'm gonna get bricks thrown through
Speaker 1: my window. But the bottom line is, it's very fascinating
Speaker 1: to me what happened with Tesla. Speaking of Musk, Tesla,
Speaker 1: I think really cracked the dielectric secrets to the atomic
Speaker 1: structures of physical matter. And today many people refer to
Speaker 1: that as free energy cold fusion. There's many names for it.
Speaker 1: And I think he had it, and I think he
Speaker 1: presented that to JP Morgan and many others, and they
Speaker 1: quashed it. They said, wait, wait a minute, we're pumping
Speaker 1: oil out of the ground, and you want to come
Speaker 1: along with something that negates it.
Speaker 3: No way.
Speaker 1: And I don't think the world was ready. It's interesting
Speaker 1: that and why I brought up Trump is because John Trump,
Speaker 1: which was Donald Trump's uncle, was in the CIA, and
Speaker 1: he was part of the team that confiscated all of
Speaker 1: the Tesla documents, or at least probably had access to
Speaker 1: many of them when Tesla passed away in the New
Speaker 1: York hotel. And I think there's a lot of things
Speaker 1: that have been shelved that are probably going to be
Speaker 1: introduced to society very soon. This Saturn Jupiter conjunction that's
Speaker 1: happening is really truly ushering in a new age, and
Speaker 1: we're going to see a lot of innovators like Elon
Speaker 1: Musk and many others. Can you imagine what the military
Speaker 1: actually really has, I mean, think about having I know,
Speaker 1: I have a couple of clients in black ops and
Speaker 1: I can't say anything, but I can tell you that
Speaker 1: the United States is in a unique position because it
Speaker 1: prints its own money and it sets the global standard
Speaker 1: for the dollars. And I've heard the amount of money
Speaker 1: poured into black ops. It's just staggering, and no one knows,
Speaker 1: you know, no one really knows what it is. And
Speaker 1: when you have that kind of research power and resources,
Speaker 1: it's got to be mind boggling. What's really there. I
Speaker 1: think the reason the society doesn't have it is the structures.
Speaker 1: I mean, we go to a gas pump, we don't
Speaker 1: realize when we run that credit card, we're paying road
Speaker 1: taxes and so many other things in the infrastructure. So
Speaker 1: in order for this to happen, it's gonna take time.
Speaker 1: It's going to take you know, a lot of changes
Speaker 1: which I think are coming and I think that's why
Speaker 1: we're seeing America and the world go through so much
Speaker 1: drama right now. Even the George Floyd I could I
Speaker 1: was amazed because everybody said to me, what do you
Speaker 1: think of the pandemic? Is it ever going to end?
Speaker 1: And in vadic astrology, the Moon's north and south nodes,
Speaker 1: which are known as eclipse points, that's where the Sun
Speaker 1: and the moon join, where they went into two very
Speaker 1: malific lunar mansions. And just for anyone here, this is
Speaker 1: kind of cool, I'll show you this. These are known
Speaker 1: as the lunar mansions that surround the Earth. And I
Speaker 1: always joke around with the astronomers because a lot of
Speaker 1: astronomers laugh at astrology. They really do. They think, I'll
Speaker 1: come on, it's a joke. You know, the constellations don't
Speaker 1: line up. Well, they're right, they don't. It's a spiritual construct. Well,
Speaker 1: this is the twenty seven lunar mansions that surround the Earth.
Speaker 1: And of course I just want a picture of the
Speaker 1: Earth here. So as the moon, which by the way,
Speaker 1: the moon's doing almost mock two and a half around
Speaker 1: the Earth, which is quite fast. The moon is they say,
Speaker 1: the soul passes through the body at the first breath.
Speaker 1: The angel ties the spirit, psyche and the soul to
Speaker 1: the body at first breath in Veda castrology, and that's
Speaker 1: also a Kabbalistic legend too, And I absolutely believe it's true.
Speaker 1: I was in the delivery room when my son was
Speaker 1: born and witnessed that, which was amazing. So the lunar
Speaker 1: mansions are very sacred, and they surround the Earth. And again,
Speaker 1: no matter how much the astronomers polish the lenses on
Speaker 1: their telescopes, they're never going to see this zodiac either,
Speaker 1: because it's a spiritual construct. Well why did I tell
Speaker 1: you this is because this year, right when the pandemic
Speaker 1: broke out, in fact decisely, we had two very important
Speaker 1: things happen. One, we had a collis sarpa yoga that's
Speaker 1: a strange term in Veda castrology. That means all the
Speaker 1: planets were in between the Moon's north and south nodes.
Speaker 1: In fact, here I can actually show that to you.
Speaker 1: Watch and everybody said to me, when do you think
Speaker 1: this is going to start to break? And I said, right,
Speaker 1: it'll start to break in April, but it'll really start
Speaker 1: to break right at the end of May. Now, watch
Speaker 1: this you can actually see if you look, every single
Speaker 1: planet here on this wheel is in between this little
Speaker 1: horseshoe and this little horseshoe. See that every planet's on
Speaker 1: that side of the art. There's no planets right here.
Speaker 1: That's known as a Collis sarpa yoga. And what does
Speaker 1: that mean. Well, often they call it a serpent curse,
Speaker 1: but they also mean that it's a very powerful karmic
Speaker 1: time when energy is released. Well, the nodes, meaning the
Speaker 1: Moon's north and south nodes, were also in these malific
Speaker 1: lunar mansions, and every time they get in them, there's
Speaker 1: some kind of a strange occurrence on the Earth. Good
Speaker 1: good example, Aids broke out on this, Kennedy was killed
Speaker 1: on this. We had strange stuff in the fifties on that.
Speaker 1: I think the Hiroshima happened on that. The pandemic of
Speaker 1: nineteen seventeen, which would kill almost one hundred million people
Speaker 1: they g uestimate they documented over fifty million globally.
Speaker 3: Can we chart that? Like, can you go back?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure you can't. Yeah. And I went back
Speaker 1: and looked at the plague, the Black plague, the quote
Speaker 1: unquote black Peg of London was the same thing. They
Speaker 1: had those same conditions. So these have the nodes actually
Speaker 1: go around the zodiac about meaning the moon's north and
Speaker 1: south node, which by the way, for anyone listening who's
Speaker 1: into Vedic astrology, they called the north note of the
Speaker 1: moon Rahu and the south node of the moon K two,
Speaker 1: and Rahu and K two are known as the serpent.
Speaker 1: In fact, there's an ancient legend that when God gave
Speaker 1: the immortal potion to the planets, this demon snuck in
Speaker 1: and drunk the potion, and the Sun told God this
Speaker 1: demon snuck it and drank it and threw a discus
Speaker 1: at it and cut it in half. The head became
Speaker 1: the north node, and of course the south node became
Speaker 1: the south node or K two. They had to became
Speaker 1: Rahu and k tu, and they're known as the serpent.
Speaker 1: And that's because they kind of serpentine back and forth
Speaker 1: around the zodiac every eighteen and a half years. So
Speaker 1: what's unique is every eighteen and a half years we're
Speaker 1: not going to get a major pandemic, but this one
Speaker 1: was so severe because of the confluence of events. You
Speaker 1: can actually see look at this is Pluto, that's stupid
Speaker 1: or that's Saturday. They're all right together right now, and
Speaker 1: watch what happens here right on May twenty seventh. Here,
Speaker 1: if I go forward May twenty six, twenty seven, you
Speaker 1: can see the moon shoots out past the north node.
Speaker 1: And right after that, literally days later, Mercury broke the
Speaker 1: Collisarpa yoga and that's it. So and then people say, well, okay, great,
Speaker 1: the pandemic ended, and then the George Floyd riots broke out. Well,
Speaker 1: notice Venus is retrograde too, So it's like we went
Speaker 1: from one thing to the next, and the all the
Speaker 1: rioting and the insanity happened right when Venus went retrograde.
Speaker 1: And Venus retrograde was also synonymous with Lucifer falling or
Speaker 1: the ancient cuts a quaddle mayan myth where something happens,
Speaker 1: someone in power commits an atrocious act and then there's
Speaker 1: retribution for it. Well, it's exactly what happened. You know,
Speaker 1: that video was played and everyone went crazy. And now
Speaker 1: the other reason I think the unrest is going on
Speaker 1: is because we have the Saturn Jupiter conjunction coming in
Speaker 1: and there's a lot more things. Astrology is not simple.
Speaker 1: We also have the United States chart see the signing
Speaker 1: of the Declaration of the Independence is another thing that
Speaker 1: astrologers use to look at the cycles. Just like the
Speaker 1: birth chart of you and me or anyone else, you
Speaker 1: can look at the birthchart of the nation. And because
Speaker 1: the United States is so new, it's only two hundred
Speaker 1: and forty something years old, we have that data. And
Speaker 1: there's dispute between astrologers as to which one to use,
Speaker 1: but no matter which one we use, I use the Siby.
Speaker 1: It's named after a mystic name, Ebenezer Sibley, and that's
Speaker 1: why they call it the sibly Chart. He's believed to
Speaker 1: have recorded the exact time they documented or worth signing it.
Speaker 1: And long story short, the United States is going through
Speaker 1: some serious transformation here over the next two years. So
Speaker 1: no matter who gets in I tell you, they're going
Speaker 1: to have a real situation to deal with here with
Speaker 1: the US going through some very powerful transits.
Speaker 3: That's interesting. One of the first times that I've heard
Speaker 3: the h I guess the moons referred to as mansions.
Speaker 3: And one of the interesting inscription the Bible says, in
Speaker 3: my father's house are many mansions, and it's speaking about astrology.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and I think it's beyond astrology. You know.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you look at that model I had
Speaker 1: spoken about before, which you talk about mansions, there's literally worlds,
Speaker 1: dimensions and worlds here. Yeah, just the astrol planes alone
Speaker 1: are elabyrinth. I mean, if you have forty nine dimensions
Speaker 1: and forty nine sub dimensions down here. This is also
Speaker 1: known as the pouch of the slingshot in many ancient
Speaker 1: Egyptian and rabbinical texts. The pouch of the slingshot is
Speaker 1: this astral world down here between what they call the
Speaker 1: sub lunar world of the Moon and the Earth, in
Speaker 1: an astral sense. And many physicists are saying that this
Speaker 1: is quite probable, particularly in quantum physics, where there are
Speaker 1: multiple dimensions in the astral worlds. And again many psychics
Speaker 1: intuitives are very familiar with this, and this is the
Speaker 1: world of the ghosts, of the demons and all that
Speaker 1: other stuff. And I really believe that that is so.
Speaker 1: And the lunar position in the physical world seems to
Speaker 1: really coincide with something in Vedic astrology known as the
Speaker 1: vim shatory dashas, which are time lords that every soul
Speaker 1: will experience throughout their lives. I'm amazed at how accurate
Speaker 1: it is again, I was a skeptic of astrology. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, I really was in to physics and electronics
Speaker 1: growing up, and always music. I love music, and you know,
Speaker 1: I don't believe in just theory. I have to see
Speaker 1: some result. And the thing with astrology is you see
Speaker 1: concrete results in these cycles. I've seen it in my
Speaker 1: own life. It's absolutely mind boggling. And the religions have
Speaker 1: demonized it or what's the work of the devil? Well,
Speaker 1: that's kind of interesting because you know, talk about Rome
Speaker 1: here for a minute, the early Roman Church. We've heard
Speaker 1: of like the Niocene councils and many different councils that
Speaker 1: had existed in Rome, and they basically took the doctrines
Speaker 1: of reincarnation and threw them out the window. And they
Speaker 1: are one of the few religions on the earth that
Speaker 1: had done that. Almost every other culture believes in the
Speaker 1: potential of reincarnation and after life and all of that.
Speaker 1: And this world here of Asaya is called the pouch
Speaker 1: of the slingshot and rabbinical texts, which means where souls
Speaker 1: leave when they exit of course life known as death
Speaker 1: to us, and they will oftentimes be in these astral
Speaker 1: worlds for whatever amount of time it would be. And
Speaker 1: they say, the guardian Angel there's a celestial court, and
Speaker 1: no one knows exactly where that is, but the celestial
Speaker 1: court appears to be at least with this dimension lined
Speaker 1: up with this solar system. And what's fascinating is they
Speaker 1: say the angel will attach the spirit, soul and psyche
Speaker 1: like an assignment to the embryo at conception, not at birth,
Speaker 1: and you're not in the embryo, but you're attached to
Speaker 1: it like with the silver cord analogy, and then the
Speaker 1: nine lunch of gestation. You're in converse with this angel.
Speaker 1: And then right when the child exits the mother's womb,
Speaker 1: the angel ties the spirit psyche and sold to the
Speaker 1: body permanently at first breath. And I never knew if
Speaker 1: that legend was true. It's actually anyone can see that
Speaker 1: that's or read about that. That's actually in a text
Speaker 1: called the Sepher Hagada. Sepher means book and Hebrew and
Speaker 1: Hagada means legends. And it's a fascinating text written by
Speaker 1: two rabbis out of Russia in the late eighteen hundreds,
Speaker 1: and there's several versions of it. But I never knew
Speaker 1: if that was true until my son was born. I
Speaker 1: was holding my wife's hand and I literally saw I
Speaker 1: didn't see any wings or shapes, but I saw two
Speaker 1: spheres of light and they joined right when he cried,
Speaker 1: and my hair and my skin just went I just, oh,
Speaker 1: my god, it's true. And I wasn't even thinking about it,
Speaker 1: you know, because my wife had to go with an
Speaker 1: epidural and sea section and it was of traumatic. And
Speaker 1: of course I'm watching a doctor slice my wife's stomach
Speaker 1: wide open, kind of graphic, and yank the baby out
Speaker 1: and all the blood and the fluid. So the last
Speaker 1: thing on my mind was angels, right, and then I
Speaker 1: see that, I'm going, oh my god, you know, this
Speaker 1: is amazing. And the energy in the room was so sacred,
Speaker 1: it was so enlightening, and I'll never forget going around
Speaker 1: the table.
Speaker 3: They had.
Speaker 1: They put my boy on this little table and he
Speaker 1: was crying and he reached I went up over him,
Speaker 1: and he reached up and grabbed my thumbs and stopped
Speaker 1: crying to look right at me. And they can't see,
Speaker 1: you know, when when they were first born. At least
Speaker 1: that's what they say. And that was that was the
Speaker 1: most profound experience of my life. I have to say
Speaker 1: that was absolutely amazing. Oh yeah, they see the guardian
Speaker 1: I mean a country up. I just want to add
Speaker 1: this before I forget. They say that the positions of
Speaker 1: the plan, if you take the Hebrew letters, you can
Speaker 1: actually get the name of the guardian angel from the
Speaker 1: moment in time you're born. I do that a lot
Speaker 1: for people on pendants with astral gemstones that I set
Speaker 1: for people. You can actually get the name of your
Speaker 1: guardian angel. How do you do that, Well, you take
Speaker 1: the astrology.
Speaker 3: See what you do.
Speaker 1: Let's just pretend this is someone's birth tard. You order
Speaker 1: the twenty two airmaker Hebrew letters repeatedly around the wheel.
Speaker 1: It's a mathematical task. It takes me about forty five minutes.
Speaker 1: And then you take each planet's position and degree and
Speaker 1: you order that in what we call the Egyptian Essential Dignities.
Speaker 1: And I'm not so sure they're Egyptian, but you can
Speaker 1: see down here this is the Egyptian Essential Dignity. So
Speaker 1: you order that planet's letter that it's in in the
Speaker 1: Egyptian Essential Dignities. What's even more mind boggling is there's
Speaker 1: correspondences in the numerology to the Bible, in Genesis, the
Speaker 1: Psalms and many different Old Testament that's called the Torah,
Speaker 1: and also in the Psalms that numerologically relate to the Angel.
Speaker 1: And I've done this for many people, and it's kind
Speaker 1: of mind boggling because a lot of the phrases match
Speaker 1: some of the destinies of the soul. So I always say,
Speaker 1: forget Trinity, Neo and Morpheus, this is the real matrix.
Speaker 1: They actually say the Angel and this is this is cool.
Speaker 1: I'll watch this. If you've ever seen I'm sure you've
Speaker 1: seen the Tree of Life most people have. They actually
Speaker 1: say the human form is imbued with spirit, and the
Speaker 1: positions of the planets on the Tree of Life align
Speaker 1: with the merits of the soul as it's incarnated. And
Speaker 1: then that becomes like a print. So your birth chart
Speaker 1: is literally like a resonant print. It's not you, it's
Speaker 1: the resonant print of the journey of the soul in
Speaker 1: this incarnation. So when you look at transits and progressions
Speaker 1: and dawshes, it's completely amazing because what it does is
Speaker 1: it shows the journey of the soul. Like primary directions
Speaker 1: and astrology are kind of mind boggling. I just lost
Speaker 1: two really good friends. They were very young, they were
Speaker 1: only in their sixties, and both died of a heart attack,
Speaker 1: and I was astounded at the primary directions that were
Speaker 1: in their charts. Both of them passed away. And you know,
Speaker 1: I don't like to look at that for people. I mean,
Speaker 1: most people, they kind of want to know when they're
Speaker 1: going to check out, and I think you can alter
Speaker 1: that stuff. But it's pretty amazing how accuratey astrology is.
Speaker 1: It really is, and I'm kind of mind blowing up
Speaker 1: by it.
Speaker 3: Looking at this human experience and this journey of the
Speaker 3: soul that we're undergoing. Do you think that once we
Speaker 3: pass do you think that we stepped into other worlds,
Speaker 3: incarnate there to learn things and with different experiences as well,
Speaker 3: or do we just heap coming back to this realm
Speaker 3: and this world as we know it to be Earth.
Speaker 3: Do you think there's other expressions and the missions that
Speaker 3: we enter into and got to pass through to learn
Speaker 3: other things? Here we learned how to love, here, we
Speaker 3: learned how to overcome our fears, and you know, those
Speaker 3: kind of things. And it's so much that we're learning,
Speaker 3: but a different existence where there's other things to learn,
Speaker 3: and we're incarnated differently with the same soul.
Speaker 1: Oh. Absolutely. In fact, here's an interesting world of texts.
Speaker 1: Let me show you this. This is a text for
Speaker 1: anyone that wants to This is called the share he
Speaker 1: Gilgam or shar ar in air mak and Hebrew means
Speaker 1: gat or gates, and Gilgam means cycling or recycling. So
Speaker 1: you can see the text is the gate of reincarnations.
Speaker 1: And in this what it talks about there's a model.
Speaker 1: See then, the feesh is known as the lower psyche.
Speaker 1: There's another analogy I can show you. See in psychology,
Speaker 1: this big thick dark line is kind of the demarcation
Speaker 1: between what maybe a psychiatrist or psychologist would call our
Speaker 1: conscious mind below here and our subconscious mind is above here.
Speaker 1: Notice this planet, if anyone knows astrology, that is Saturn.
Speaker 1: Saturn is the cross over the crescent of the moon.
Speaker 1: In fact, all the glyphs of the planets come from
Speaker 1: the circle, the crescent and the cross, every one of
Speaker 1: them the sun. They see. The physicists, certain ones are
Speaker 1: beginning to agree that the suns aren't just nuclear fission.
Speaker 1: They could be and I don't know if you've heard
Speaker 1: of the electrical universe, but they could be an interaction
Speaker 1: that's much different than they originally fought. There is other
Speaker 1: texts that say the reason that the stars and the
Speaker 1: suns are so bright is because they're shining down into
Speaker 1: these lower dimensions from the upper dimensions above. We hear
Speaker 1: this about ascended masters, and you know, like when Christ
Speaker 1: let out his energy and different people let out their energy,
Speaker 1: they're so bright people can't even see. Well, isn't try
Speaker 1: to looking at the sun. Sometime they say the sun
Speaker 1: is like a portal, if you will, to the upper realms,
Speaker 1: and that's why it gives life and heat and vitality.
Speaker 1: Any scientists will tell you the sun is much more
Speaker 1: than heat. We couldn't live but for seconds without the Sun.
Speaker 1: It's putting so much energy into these lower worlds, or
Speaker 1: at least our lower world for sure, and the other ones.
Speaker 1: So the principle, and this is deep stuff To answer
Speaker 1: own question, I certainly don't claim to have all the answers.
Speaker 1: But they say the lower psyche is than the fesh,
Speaker 1: the raws is the spirit, the neshma is the lower
Speaker 1: portion of the soul, and incarnations on earth keep happening,
Speaker 1: and how we purify and rectify the soul so that
Speaker 1: we can move on to these upper worlds. And I
Speaker 1: to answer your question, I believe absolutely we could incarnate
Speaker 1: one time. We could incarnate thousands. I certainly don't know.
Speaker 1: I know Vedic astrology is astounding. You can see where
Speaker 1: your sole root comes from on the tree of life.
Speaker 1: And here I'll just cast a chart in Veda astrology
Speaker 1: so people can see. Since we've got the ability to
Speaker 1: go visual here, I'll just cast a chart here to
Speaker 1: just show you what this is. One type of Vedic astrology.
Speaker 1: It's the Northern Indian. You also have the Southern Indian
Speaker 1: charts that look like this, but either one can be used.
Speaker 1: But again, Vedic astrology has these over here. They're known
Speaker 1: as karacas. You can see what karaka means in plain
Speaker 1: English is indicator and ak means the Atma kark which
Speaker 1: is the soul roots indicator. So every one of us
Speaker 1: has the zodiac, and I should say, the entire heavens
Speaker 1: is this exceedingly complex matrix of angelic forces that the
Speaker 1: soul is imprinted through as it incarnates. So we're not
Speaker 1: our astrology modern astrology. I call it love, light and cluelessness.
Speaker 1: Everyone all my Sun's sign, and the Internet has become
Speaker 1: so enladened with sun sign astrology. And there is some
Speaker 1: truth to it because the lower psyche is definitely the
Speaker 1: egoic sense of self is the Sun. So we all
Speaker 1: have an ego, and we all have our sense of self,
Speaker 1: but that's not us. And I think once we get
Speaker 1: past that, all the great spiritual teachers tell us that,
Speaker 1: you know, once we become more stoic, less reactive, and
Speaker 1: learn to be in connection with our higher self or
Speaker 1: our higher consciousness, we stop becoming so angry and violent
Speaker 1: and all that, and we start really receiving maybe the
Speaker 1: upper consciousness that we all have, and that is blocked
Speaker 1: a lot by the ego. And what's interesting is Saturn
Speaker 1: seems to be the escape from Alcatraz planet. If I
Speaker 1: go back to this diagram, this will kind of blow
Speaker 1: your mind. You know what Malachus means. That's the Earth,
Speaker 1: so does the moon. That is Venus, that's Mercury, that's
Speaker 1: the Sun, that is Jupiter, that's Mars. Guess what Binya
Speaker 1: is Saturn. So when you look at the psyche, the
Speaker 1: spirit and the lower portion of the soul, we come
Speaker 1: here to rejoin this in incarnations through the purifications. Every
Speaker 1: reading I do, including in my own life, we all say, God,
Speaker 1: why do we have to endure this relationship or this situation?
Speaker 1: Why is so and so mad at me? Or why
Speaker 1: did I end up? You know, in a situation that
Speaker 1: I grew up like this? In Vedic astrology, people always
Speaker 1: think I'm psychic. They go, how did you know? My
Speaker 1: mom was that way? My dad was that How did
Speaker 1: you know that you know this happened? And I'm saying
Speaker 1: because it showed up in the progressions and transits in
Speaker 1: your Veda castrology, and they're like, wow. Like I met
Speaker 1: my wife about twenty three years ago now at a
Speaker 1: gas station in Malibu, And you know, I guess meeting
Speaker 1: someone at a gas station is too intriguing sounding, but
Speaker 1: if you put Malibu in there, it sounds better. So anyways,
Speaker 1: we ended up meeting at a coffee shop later, and
Speaker 1: I brought my computer with me and I cast her
Speaker 1: chart and the first thing I noticed was, Wow, what
Speaker 1: happened to you at about two and a half three
Speaker 1: years old? And you know, she gets a little bit
Speaker 1: of a tear in her eye and she says, that's
Speaker 1: when I was giving up for adoption and my aunt
Speaker 1: adopted me. Well, how would I know that? Because the
Speaker 1: primary see the positions of the planets, to keep this
Speaker 1: simple in plain English, when you're born, the positions of
Speaker 1: all the planets will progress in what we call primary directions,
Speaker 1: which is a fancy term for the motion of the
Speaker 1: earth daily. And when you view these you can see
Speaker 1: the riddles of life unfolding. And she had the primary
Speaker 1: directed moon conjuncting Saturn almost precisely two and a half
Speaker 1: years later after birth, right off the bat. I just
Speaker 1: had a client the other day. I said, oh my god,
Speaker 1: what happened to you? Poor girl? At about three years old,
Speaker 1: just before four, she had the primary directed moon opposing Mars. Well,
Speaker 1: her mother left her and she was raised by her father.
Speaker 1: Her mother just left. So I see this all the time,
Speaker 1: Like I had a horrible motorcycle accident in the late
Speaker 1: seventies and I'm going, what the he cause it? And
Speaker 1: I noticed primary directed Mars was conjuncting Mercury almost to
Speaker 1: the teeth. And I see this throughout all. We all
Speaker 1: are h given challenges, and a lot of the religious
Speaker 1: stuff is really accurate that we are here to you know,
Speaker 1: purify and become more spiritual and holy. You know, the
Speaker 1: problem is is everyday life doesn't lend to that. We're
Speaker 1: all in this modality of you know, attack and balance
Speaker 1: the checkbook, get the job that we don't like, or
Speaker 1: you know, endure all these things, and a lot of
Speaker 1: them are karmic lessons. They really are, and it's our
Speaker 1: reaction to them that makes the difference.
Speaker 3: Man, so many questions and uh, so much good stuff.
Speaker 3: There's a bunch of people enjoying it in the chat.
Speaker 3: There's some people here who are familiar with the Vedic
Speaker 3: astrology as well.
Speaker 1: So really cool.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so you know we spent we spent the
Speaker 3: first hour talking about astrology and that we can keep
Speaker 3: going on about it. There's some other things that that
Speaker 3: we mentioned as well. And uh, you mentioned having these
Speaker 3: experiences with what some people call UFOs and things like that,
Speaker 3: and how that took you to another level of whether
Speaker 3: it's spirituality or just these experiences and things like that.
Speaker 3: What were some of those encounters with UFOs and things
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: I've had a lot. God, let me where can I start. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one that happened to me that was
Speaker 1: really kind of mind blowing. I used to be in
Speaker 1: a musical group and we would play and I was
Speaker 1: coming home from a girlfriend's house late one night on
Speaker 1: a motorcycle. This is God has said to me, like
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five, nineteen seventy six, it was a long
Speaker 1: time ago. And I'm going along. This is way up
Speaker 1: in northern Wisconsin, and I'm going along a lake called
Speaker 1: Big Saint Germain, and I noticed out of my review
Speaker 1: or out of my mirror on my left side, I
Speaker 1: saw a flash of yellow light. That's weird, you know.
Speaker 1: It's three o'clock in the morning. And I look up
Speaker 1: and I'm in the middle of the woods, right CRUs
Speaker 1: on this really desolate road. It was like sleepy hollow
Speaker 1: up there. And I look and I see this triangular
Speaker 1: shape up above the trees. I thought, okay, that's kind
Speaker 1: of weird, and it had this luminescent look. So then
Speaker 1: I hit the gas and I'm going along. And there's
Speaker 1: a lot of lakes up where we lived, this way
Speaker 1: up in the woods. And I got to our lake,
Speaker 1: which is called Lost Lake, and I was coming down
Speaker 1: the road and I took a left going now going
Speaker 1: along the lake shore and about probably a quarter mile up,
Speaker 1: the bike dies completely dies, just done, I mean, no lights, nothing,
Speaker 1: And I thought, okay, And at the time I smoked.
Speaker 1: Everybody smoked in the seventies. So I took my big
Speaker 1: lighter out and I lighted, and I checked, and I
Speaker 1: remember I had a little tool kid. It was a
Speaker 1: little tool kid underneath the battery, and I arked the
Speaker 1: battery with two with a wrench and a screwhart nothing,
Speaker 1: I mean, just dead. I thought, wow, that's strange. So
Speaker 1: just a little waist up the road. I knew a
Speaker 1: friend was there, and you know, at three o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning, I come knocking on the door and I
Speaker 1: said to mister Lara Matis, I said, hey, do you
Speaker 1: do you mind if I saw to wake you up?
Speaker 1: Do you mind if I put my bike down here?
Speaker 1: Because you know, I explained what happened, and he was
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, I'll help you push it down. So
Speaker 1: he comes up to the road with me. This is
Speaker 1: a long driveway and he's the one to notice it.
Speaker 1: He saw the same thing up there, way off above
Speaker 1: the trees. He says, what the heck is that? And
Speaker 1: I said, well, that's interesting because I saw the thing
Speaker 1: up above me over on Big Saint Germaine, and he said, wow,
Speaker 1: that's kind of weird looking, and it was coming down
Speaker 1: really really slowly. I used to track these things, so
Speaker 1: put the bike there. He gave me a ride home
Speaker 1: because I still had a few miles ago. And next
Speaker 1: morning I took the pickup truck and came with my mother.
Speaker 1: It came over because she was going to drive the
Speaker 1: truck home and in case it started. And I went
Speaker 1: over there and was ready to load the bike up,
Speaker 1: and I figured, well, maybe I'll just try it. I
Speaker 1: hit the key. It just starts right up, perfect battery,
Speaker 1: perfect and of course, you know, no explanation, but I
Speaker 1: think that thing shut me down. So I've had many
Speaker 1: experiences like that. I've had missing time where we've ended
Speaker 1: up on other sides of roads. I've had spiritual demons
Speaker 1: come in and like grab me by the neck when
Speaker 1: I'm sleeping and drive it away, and that got me.
Speaker 1: This now enters the eighties. I had this really interesting
Speaker 1: and fascinating journey. I was hired by this spiritual organization,
Speaker 1: actually a couple of them, to do all these radio
Speaker 1: shows and with my studio, and we would do audio
Speaker 1: visual stuff and radio and some video a little bit
Speaker 1: of film. That's how I ended up filming Mother Teresa
Speaker 1: of Calcutta, and I started recording all these theologians coming
Speaker 1: over from Rome in the place called the Bellermine Retreat
Speaker 1: House in Chicago, and it was really fascinating because I
Speaker 1: was exposed to all this different religious theologies. And of
Speaker 1: course meating Mother Teresa was really cool. She was very
Speaker 1: very sweet, hardly said anything, and I got the recorder
Speaker 1: and film her for about two and a half hours
Speaker 1: in a little town called Kenosha, Wisconsin. And long story short,
Speaker 1: as time went on, I just was really blessed to
Speaker 1: be exposed to so many different things, both in Christianity,
Speaker 1: Judaism and Hinduism and Tibetan you know, all Daoists, all
Speaker 1: these different things, and Buddhism. And it's always been a
Speaker 1: fascination to me that they all believe in God, but
Speaker 1: they all believe in it completely different and there's truths
Speaker 1: every one of them. And I'm all, this, where does
Speaker 1: all this fit with astrology? And clearly we are in
Speaker 1: a very divine diverse place here that it's all going
Speaker 1: on here on earth.
Speaker 3: It really is.
Speaker 1: This is a really amazing place of such diverse karmic energies.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can do anything here. You can get
Speaker 1: angry and kill someone, which I would highly recommend no
Speaker 1: one do, because the karmic implication beyond that alone, let
Speaker 1: alone the horribleness of that is not recommended. And then
Speaker 1: you can do the most divine things you can. Heal,
Speaker 1: you can you know, be kind to people and really
Speaker 1: nurture and make wonderful things on this planet. So it's
Speaker 1: the place of free will, it really is. And I
Speaker 1: think the ghosts and demons are pissed off at us,
Speaker 1: and a lot of them, not so much the ghost
Speaker 1: as much as the demons, because I really think they
Speaker 1: were cast down. I think the Genesis story is much
Speaker 1: more accurate than meets the eye, and it appears that
Speaker 1: they really don't like human beings. They despise us because
Speaker 1: we have the free will. Whether if they can lead us,
Speaker 1: they certainly will.
Speaker 3: You think they're jealous of us, and they need a
Speaker 3: host to kind of like feel what it feels like
Speaker 3: to be human again or not human but have a
Speaker 3: physical existence again.
Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. Yeah, I mean we
Speaker 1: hear these The books of Enoch are very fascinating. And
Speaker 1: there's overwhelming evidence that has been presented by some really
Speaker 1: good minds that the New Testament was largely influenced by
Speaker 1: the Book of Enoch. And they found Ethiopian texts, there's
Speaker 1: Egyptian and different versions of it, and that appears to
Speaker 1: be pre and Aluvian, and it speaks about how the
Speaker 1: demons have copulated with women. And of course we hear
Speaker 1: the story of the giants. Well, there's military guys. We'll
Speaker 1: tell you that they've seen strange phenomena underground giants different places.
Speaker 1: This stuff is kept very, very secret. I know I've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of people have heard a bigfoot, right,
Speaker 1: but I've seen some stuff up in the woods that
Speaker 1: was pretty inexplicable. I'm not that tall. I'm about maybe
Speaker 1: six three six three and a half and I was
Speaker 1: walking in the again in the seventies and I saw
Speaker 1: this huge individual. I mean he had to be eight
Speaker 1: feet tall. I mean just towered over me and hardly crunched.
Speaker 1: I just heard the snow crunch a little bit. I
Speaker 1: was walking up on a dark night to a friend's
Speaker 1: house and this guy turned around. Whatever he was, he
Speaker 1: didn't look like a sasquatch. He just looked like a
Speaker 1: huge individual. He turned around and saw me. It was
Speaker 1: probably about one hundred yards away, so I couldn't see it.
Speaker 1: It was pretty dark. He turned around and ran silently
Speaker 1: and went through the brush. And I know that brush.
Speaker 1: You could not a deer couldn't go through that brush
Speaker 1: and not break a twig. And that dude was gone.
Speaker 1: And I went up to my friend's house. We went
Speaker 1: down there with lights and we're looking. We saw these
Speaker 1: huge footprints and pretty wild stuff. So there's a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff going on on this planet that is very secret.
Speaker 1: I believe the Black ops and the military are very
Speaker 1: familiar with this stuff. I mean, we've heard all the
Speaker 1: stories about the underground bases and all this crazy stuff
Speaker 1: going on. There's probably a lot more truth to it
Speaker 1: than we know. For some reason, it's not allowed to
Speaker 1: be exposed at this time to the secular public. I mean,
Speaker 1: we know they go out of their way to keep
Speaker 1: it secret, and I think the government has probably been interacting.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've heard about Lieutenant Philip Corsol. I'm sure
Speaker 1: you've heard of him, right, the ole Roswell thing. In fact,
Speaker 1: my wife Camille, who wrote for UFO magazine in the
Speaker 1: late nineties early two thousands, I was exposed to a
Speaker 1: lot of really wonderful researchers, and I work with remote
Speaker 1: viewing people both outside of the military and some I
Speaker 1: can't mention, but I've done research and we found that
Speaker 1: the celestial energy is meaning astrology and positioning of fixed
Speaker 1: stars and planets have a huge effect on remote viewing,
Speaker 1: and they see all kinds of stuff. It's pretty bizarre
Speaker 1: what goes on in this planet, and it's also bizarre
Speaker 1: to me how it's kept so secret. Many guys in
Speaker 1: the military will tell you they have seen phenomena documented
Speaker 1: on radar and scientific instruments. Right off the coast of
Speaker 1: Malibu here there's this huge underground tunnel and they've documented
Speaker 1: these craft come out of there and they go from
Speaker 1: like nothing to you know, warp speed if you will.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just thousands of miles an hour. Anything
Speaker 1: we'd have would burn up trying.
Speaker 3: To do that. Have you been up to Mount Adams
Speaker 3: where James Gillilan is in Washington?
Speaker 1: Oh? No, I have not.
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, it's pretty pretty interesting. They're seeing all these
Speaker 3: type of UFOs and craft and things like that that
Speaker 3: they are kind of summoning, if you will, going out
Speaker 3: under the night sky and kind of making contact. And
Speaker 3: there's a lot of activity in and around mountains which
Speaker 3: are interesting. There's portals and opening up that they're catching
Speaker 3: on camera, and lights coming out of the mountain and
Speaker 3: flying away and coming into the top of a mountain
Speaker 3: and things like that. Even around volcanoes. We've seen UFO
Speaker 3: activities around volcanoes and such as well.
Speaker 1: You know, that's a great topic. You bring up mountains.
Speaker 1: What's in a mountain all kinds of minerals, crystals, right,
Speaker 1: when you think about minerals and crystals. I mean even
Speaker 1: in our computers, the chips still use crystals to time.
Speaker 1: So it's amazing when you look at they could be
Speaker 1: very complex switches, dimensional switches that the mineral compositions allow.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're just began to understand. I think the
Speaker 1: future is very bright when it comes to technology and science,
Speaker 1: as I really do. I think we're unfolding. We're just
Speaker 1: scratching the surface of what this whole world is all
Speaker 1: about and existence. You know, quantum physicists will tell you
Speaker 1: that everything is made up of molecules and atoms, right,
Speaker 1: but what's really connecting them what's holding them in these patterns.
Speaker 1: They're all like little solar systems, if you will. The
Speaker 1: only difference between gold and plastic and air is the
Speaker 1: molecular construct. It's all just energy. It's all just energy.
Speaker 1: And to manipulate that if one knew, and I believe
Speaker 1: Tesla was cracking into that, and that's the golden secrets
Speaker 1: that I think are going to become unfolded. I personally
Speaker 1: think it's angels holding everything together. I really really do.
Speaker 1: We ain't smart enough to figure that one out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, have you had any experiences or any counters, encounters,
Speaker 3: any visions of that kind of kind of thing. Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: I know you've talked about the demonic ryan, these ets
Speaker 3: or oh goblins, but what about like the beautiful and
Speaker 3: well make you feel good type of beings as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've actually been saved by some of them, miraculously.
Speaker 1: I think we all have, or we wouldn't be drawing breath.
Speaker 1: We're just so far out of touch with it, you know.
Speaker 1: When you take that model again, this is just a
Speaker 1: nice way to speak about it. They say the upper
Speaker 1: angelic realms hold these guys in abeyance, And I don't
Speaker 1: think the world would exist if they didn't they they
Speaker 1: say the guardian Angel of the Thrones brings us souls
Speaker 1: down into creations, and I do say that plurally. So
Speaker 1: there isn't just Earth. And I think once we get
Speaker 1: done with the work that we need to do here,
Speaker 1: I think, like you mentioned earlier, we move on to
Speaker 1: many other worlds and many other dimensions and heavens, and
Speaker 1: I mean God would only know literally what those are.
Speaker 1: And I think those upper angels, thank God, literally hold
Speaker 1: these guys in abeyance. You know, we hear the stories.
Speaker 1: One of the most probably utilized magical texts is The
Speaker 1: Keys of Solomon, and I think it's very dangerous. I
Speaker 1: really do not subscribe to magic. And everyone who's familiar
Speaker 1: in the Western world with the Bible will certainly know
Speaker 1: what Exodus is. Well, Exodus has seventy two encrypted angel names.
Speaker 1: There's actually seventy two to the good and seventy two
Speaker 1: to the evil. And there's many ancient texts that describe this.
Speaker 1: And if you permeate the three letters in the well,
Speaker 1: there's permeations of the three verses, I should say, not
Speaker 1: three letters, three verses that give you the names of
Speaker 1: all these angels. Well, they're known in Hebrew as the
Speaker 1: shem Hemophore. Well, that's the cornerstone of many medieval grim
Speaker 1: mars and magic, and it's very dangerous stuff because what
Speaker 1: happens is people get a hold of this stuff and
Speaker 1: they start summoning demons and spirits, and this stuff's really real.
Speaker 1: And the angels appear to protect us from that other
Speaker 1: than maybe our karma, until we open those doors. That's
Speaker 1: why I run into a lot of folks. Hey, what
Speaker 1: do you think of this? I'd stay away from it. Buddy,
Speaker 1: you open that you dial that number. And this again
Speaker 1: goes right back to many Christians will remember what did
Speaker 1: Christ do? He cast out legion, he did this, he
Speaker 1: did that, And this is all about spiritual depossession and
Speaker 1: spiritual cleansing. Well, if the upper angels weren't allowing that,
Speaker 1: this place would wouldn't even exist. You know, all these
Speaker 1: horrible wars and things seem to it seems to be
Speaker 1: free will is allowed here. I mean, look at the
Speaker 1: things we do to each other. We sue each other,
Speaker 1: we kill each other, we do horrible things. But on
Speaker 1: the other hand, no one looks at the beauty that's
Speaker 1: going on here. I mean, just life itself. I don't
Speaker 1: you find me any educated, pompous, arrogant person. And many
Speaker 1: of them are, though a lot of them are very humble.
Speaker 1: Who can design life? I mean, just look at we
Speaker 1: can split genes and do genetics. But you find me
Speaker 1: somebody who can actually take raw substance materials out of
Speaker 1: the elemental universe and design life. Not a chance, Not
Speaker 1: a chance. I mean the genetics that unfold in you.
Speaker 1: We were all little babies, and that seed just grows.
Speaker 1: I mean, the doctors can tell you why you're alive,
Speaker 1: and they can analyze you in the allopathic sense of
Speaker 1: what's wrong, but they sure can't create life or maintain
Speaker 1: it when it's over, when that spirit vacates the body.
Speaker 1: And I think that's all the angels. We're all experiencing
Speaker 1: it all the time, we're just so blocked from it.
Speaker 3: What do you think about you talking about, like, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, being careful with magic and things
Speaker 3: like that. What about channeling? I know, you help people
Speaker 3: who have gone through a lot of spiritual crazy stuff
Speaker 3: that they've kind of opened up doors and just kind
Speaker 3: of helping them out and things like that. What about channeling?
Speaker 3: Do you think that people can become demonically possessed or
Speaker 3: oppressed by opening up their mind and their spirit to
Speaker 3: letting other spirits inhabit their body and give them downloads
Speaker 3: of secret information or privy information and things like that.
Speaker 1: I think it's a dangerous area. I know I could
Speaker 1: do that, and I do not choose to do so.
Speaker 1: I know I do clearings on people, and I have
Speaker 1: seen sometimes you just can't do it until the time
Speaker 1: is right. That's where astrology is really interesting. There seems
Speaker 1: to be here's an interesting thing the Invedic astrology at
Speaker 1: but in the Vedantic literature. So you've got to remember
Speaker 1: Vedic astrology is only a small branch of Vedanta. It's
Speaker 1: so amazing the secrets that were in the ancient Vedantic texts.
Speaker 1: And many people may have heard of the Upanishads or
Speaker 1: the Jupanishads. There's the Major and Miter Jupanishads. They're kind
Speaker 1: of like scriptures, and there's one called the Tatriaca where
Speaker 1: it mentions in Sanskrit the word graha actually means planet,
Speaker 1: and Graha also means Caesar or grasper of the aura.
Speaker 1: And a lot of times the dashes that were in
Speaker 1: there are certain you could say karmic things going on.
Speaker 1: See in Hebrew they call it an impure. They say
Speaker 1: that at thirteen years old. That's why Judaism has the
Speaker 1: bar Mitzvah bat Mitzvah ritual. But that's actually not just
Speaker 1: germane to Judaism. That was actually known that that happened
Speaker 1: in the Danta, and also knew that Tibetan, Lamas and
Speaker 1: many other cultures knew that at that time different angelic
Speaker 1: forces would join the body. This is why when puberty happens,
Speaker 1: it's such a I mean, teenagers has completely changed. Any
Speaker 1: parent could admit when you watch your little children turn
Speaker 1: to teenagers, they change, They drastically change. Not only do
Speaker 1: they go through puberty, but they also personally really change.
Speaker 1: And these angels and spirits, they're called the bures, some
Speaker 1: people call them dubuque, some people call them different things.
Speaker 1: But there's a mirror of different things that join us
Speaker 1: throughout our lives. And I really believe the celestial angelic
Speaker 1: courts show that. And the text I was referring to earlier,
Speaker 1: the Sharih Gilgem, is all about that. It speaks about
Speaker 1: how we're all here purifying and rectifying and rejoining the
Speaker 1: fragments of the soul's in psyche as we go through
Speaker 1: these incarnations, and we're definitely connected from a soul roots
Speaker 1: standpoint to our parents and our lineage. You know, Like
Speaker 1: we get our DNA tests and we say, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: from France or from you know wherever. That's just the
Speaker 1: physical DNA. I'm talking about the spiritual DNA, the actual
Speaker 1: spiritual soul root connections which may or may not be
Speaker 1: genetically traceable, but they're spiritually traceable. And Vedic astrology really
Speaker 1: taps into that, even though I don't think we can
Speaker 1: go too far, but you can see a lot. And
Speaker 1: I know when I try and get around channeling, I
Speaker 1: get danger. I think you're now agreeing to open up
Speaker 1: your aura, and other things can jump in. One of
Speaker 1: my favorite texts was doctor Carl Wickland. He was a
Speaker 1: psychiatrist who documented a book called Thirty Years among the Dead,
Speaker 1: and his wife was a channel and she, like Abraham Hicks.
Speaker 1: I noticed you have her in one of your songs.
Speaker 1: I was listening to your songs. You got good music,
Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah, I was checking out your music
Speaker 1: before I got on the show, and I love that
Speaker 1: you have Abraham Hicks embedded in, you know, chanting in
Speaker 1: one of your songs. That's really awesome. And she was
Speaker 1: quite amazing, because it still is because she There's many channels,
Speaker 1: like I've met dear Uncle who is of course Bashar,
Speaker 1: and many others, and I think there's some wonderful channels
Speaker 1: out there. I just personally think it's dangerous. There's some
Speaker 1: people who may be karmically set up for that. But
Speaker 1: I do believe, like doctor Carl Wickland's wife, after thirty
Speaker 1: years of taking in disincarnate souls and allowing them to
Speaker 1: give their you know, messages and various different things, I
Speaker 1: would recommend anybody who read that book. It's called Thirty
Speaker 1: Years among the Dead by doctor Carl Wickland. It is
Speaker 1: a psychiatrist's absolute documentation, in my opinion, of all these
Speaker 1: people disincarnate souls and their stories are astounding. And by
Speaker 1: the way, doctor Wickland was the head of the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles County Mental Institution from I think nineteen eighteen or
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty up until the late thirties or forties, it
Speaker 1: might even have been later than that. And he was
Speaker 1: really here during the birth of Hollywood, and he had
Speaker 1: many stars show up and warn people don't get into drugs,
Speaker 1: stay away from alcohol. All these different people would come
Speaker 1: through his wife channeling. Well in the very end, she
Speaker 1: ended up possessed and insane and they couldn't cure her.
Speaker 1: So even though I think a lot of people get
Speaker 1: some benefit and validation of the other worlds, it's it's
Speaker 1: a dangerous place to be, you know, and I have
Speaker 1: great respect for those who can do it and not
Speaker 1: get possessed.
Speaker 3: Let's put it that way. I think I think there's
Speaker 3: I think there's there's a lot going on too then
Speaker 3: than just you know, I'm opening up my mind to
Speaker 3: these other spirits. I think that a lot of people
Speaker 3: actually put together a little documentary that I did, where
Speaker 3: like it almost seems that a lot of these this
Speaker 3: information that these some of these channeling channelers are getting
Speaker 3: is already within them, like they are are, like it's
Speaker 3: it's a part of their psyche that they're not confident
Speaker 3: in sharing. But as you have the scapegoat, as Bashar
Speaker 3: Bhar will tell you, like it is, I'm I'm a
Speaker 3: little I'm I'm you know, kind of withdrawn. I'm not confident.
Speaker 3: But as I step into this persona this character that
Speaker 3: I've created I can. I can freely receive information in
Speaker 3: parts of things that I believe and things like that.
Speaker 3: But even even in you going into some type of
Speaker 3: a trance state like that, you're able to kind of
Speaker 3: even begin to flow, and stuff just kind of moves
Speaker 3: like in that flow state as well. So I think
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people doing that and calling it
Speaker 3: channeling other entities, but it's they're kind of using that
Speaker 3: entity as a scapegoat, as a mask, if you will.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I've seen that too. I think we're all
Speaker 1: so divinely unique. Every one of us has skill sets
Speaker 1: that someone else doesn't have. And you know, I think
Speaker 1: one of the things that is so important today more
Speaker 1: than ever with AI coming in and technology, and I
Speaker 1: think this world, we're seeing the suppression of our own
Speaker 1: individualities and the suppression of our own consciousness is the
Speaker 1: danger because your unique in your unique ways. Everyone else
Speaker 1: is unique in their unique ways, and we're all here
Speaker 1: for a special reason. And I think the more we
Speaker 1: honor that and respect that in each one of us,
Speaker 1: Because there are some people I've met who do channeling,
Speaker 1: they're astounding, they're stounding, And you know, I have my
Speaker 1: skill sets and I have my limitations. We all do.
Speaker 1: And I think one of the things I like doing
Speaker 1: in readings to people is pointing out certain things. There's
Speaker 1: angels that are on the degree rising, and there's angels
Speaker 1: that rule every single degree of the maderial and lunar mansions.
Speaker 1: It's very complex, but these have great insights to show
Speaker 1: someone where their skills might lie that they didn't even
Speaker 1: realize that they had. You know, one of the things
Speaker 1: I like about America is you can be anything you want.
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody's telling you you can't do something. And
Speaker 1: you know, one of the things that kind of bothers
Speaker 1: me right now is, you know, we need to maintain
Speaker 1: that freedom in this country to where not to get
Speaker 1: political or anything, but as long as we can always
Speaker 1: maintain that people have a right no matter what their race,
Speaker 1: with their creed, what their color, doesn't matter. We're all
Speaker 1: just souls having a physical experience, and I think we're
Speaker 1: going to find as time goes on, we're all just
Speaker 1: going to integrate. And I think if we become more
Speaker 1: aware that we are spiritual beings having this physical experience,
Speaker 1: the more we can stop looking at education and all
Speaker 1: these very lower level programming things, not that education's bad
Speaker 1: because I think education is wonderful, but I also think
Speaker 1: it limits true innate, spiritual talents we're all born with
Speaker 1: and have that you know, could be cultivated. And that's
Speaker 1: where astrology really can shine is seeing that, you know,
Speaker 1: seeing that seeing your path, or being more open to
Speaker 1: the possibilities of your path.
Speaker 3: That's awesome, really good. Well, Jeff, if somebody wanted to
Speaker 3: book a session with you, wanted to check out more
Speaker 3: of your work, what would be a good place for
Speaker 3: them to go.
Speaker 1: Jeff at Jeffharmon dot com. That's h A R M
Speaker 1: A N dot com, Jeff at Jeffharmon dot com. And
Speaker 1: emails always the best. My wife Camille is amazing with people,
Speaker 1: and she handles all the scheduling, which is wonderful, but
Speaker 1: it's funny. You know. One last thing I'd like to say,
Speaker 1: I've always, you know, had a diverse set of talents.
Speaker 1: I've always worked in film and music and audio, and
Speaker 1: I used to do forensics work. I used to go
Speaker 1: into maximum security prisons and print prisoners, and it's so
Speaker 1: I've been so blessed to see this wide verse diversity
Speaker 1: of life, and I always wondered, and that's where astrology
Speaker 1: always kept with me. I'm like, why does this one
Speaker 1: poor individual end up, you know, in this situation, and
Speaker 1: another one on them in that one, another one into
Speaker 1: this one. And when you start looking at astrology not
Speaker 1: as us, but as a lesson we all are here
Speaker 1: to learn in a very divine way, it starts making
Speaker 1: more sense. And I think the most powerful thing in
Speaker 1: the universe is reaction. There's one thing they will never control,
Speaker 1: and that is your ability to react to things. You know,
Speaker 1: the way we respond to a given situation is everything.
Speaker 1: You know, it really is. It's it's our ability to
Speaker 1: respond in the appropriate ways that that help us a lot.
Speaker 3: I agree. I think free will is one of the
Speaker 3: most holy and precious things that we have. And again
Speaker 3: mentioning those other entities, they don't really have it. They're
Speaker 3: kind of created to carry out jobs and and things
Speaker 3: like that, and and they can't go outside of that,
Speaker 3: and so I think a lot of them are jealous
Speaker 3: of and when they do, they step out of the
Speaker 3: you know, the the order of things, if you will,
Speaker 3: and then they get punished in the punishments for them
Speaker 3: as well. And and just like us, when we step
Speaker 3: out of our duties, and jobs and our push our
Speaker 3: limitations to different realms, or whether you talk about some
Speaker 3: of this dark magic and trying to create bonds and
Speaker 3: get secret information from demons or gin or something like that.
Speaker 3: You know, we we fall into trouble many times as well.
Speaker 3: So it's that whole hierarchy in order. I'm I'm intrigued
Speaker 3: with it, and I've experienced and encountered a bunch just
Speaker 3: like you. And it seems like you, uh, you have
Speaker 3: a soft spot for the cabalistic way way of thinking.
Speaker 3: Is that is that a safe place, h place to
Speaker 3: to study?
Speaker 1: Well, I would say of a soft spot for both
Speaker 1: the Vedantic and the Cobbalistic and Egyptian and Sheldon. The
Speaker 1: reason why is because it's a system that is more
Speaker 1: cohesive you can relate to it. I only use those
Speaker 1: diagrams because it is is a really cohesive way to
Speaker 1: look at something that's so vast and so incomprehensive. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you start talking about the possibility of forty nine
Speaker 1: parallel universes forty nine subdimensions within each one, I mean
Speaker 1: it's mind boggling. And the same thing when you look
Speaker 1: at the astral worlds, and it's very interesting because a
Speaker 1: lot of very rational psychiatrists. Doctor Edith Fiori. If anyone
Speaker 1: wants to read a wonderful book, it's called The Unquiet
Speaker 1: Dead by doctor Edith Fiori. You may have heard of it.
Speaker 1: Doctor Louise Frye, who just passed away in her nineties.
Speaker 1: Wonderful lady was a medical doctor who got sick and
Speaker 1: tired of medicating and doing surgeries and said, there's something
Speaker 1: else going on here. She became a hypnotherapist. She started
Speaker 1: doing regressions and finding out that people were actually possessing
Speaker 1: other people. And the reason I leaned most towards the
Speaker 1: Vedantic and Cobbalistic and Tibetan stuff is because it's so old,
Speaker 1: and it's so structured that you can talk about vast
Speaker 1: things like this and easier ways. And it also, nowhere
Speaker 1: can you come up with and this will blow your
Speaker 1: hair back, the exceedingly complex numerological web of angelic forces
Speaker 1: and things that intertie with the Western Bible. Then you
Speaker 1: can in the Aramaic and Hebrew ciphers. A lot of
Speaker 1: people don't know the Psalms was originally called tahilim, what
Speaker 1: still is in Judaism and in Hebrew, but the shimushti
Speaker 1: Hilim predates the Bible as we know it. The some
Speaker 1: of the psalms can date back to fifteen hundred BC.
Speaker 1: Let's do the math here, folks, that's almost four thousand
Speaker 1: years ago. It's thirty five hundred years ago, and they
Speaker 1: don't know, but that's the best guess from many scholars.
Speaker 1: And there are secrets embedded in that where you can
Speaker 1: use ciphers, and many people are familiar with this. They're
Speaker 1: called the Well. There's many types of ciphers, but the
Speaker 1: most common ones used where you rearrange you like an otbash.
Speaker 1: Just one that's used the most. That's a liftov bet
Speaker 1: and shin, where you literally order the Hebrew alphabet and that,
Speaker 1: and you pass a verse or scripture through that. You
Speaker 1: will come up with an angelic name or a numerological
Speaker 1: equivalent to that. And now, when you get back to
Speaker 1: ancient astrology and you forget about pisces and ares and
Speaker 1: all this area fairy stuff, you start seeing, oh my god,
Speaker 1: there was a matrix that your soul came in on.
Speaker 1: That's pretty mind boggling. And it ties into these ancient texts,
Speaker 1: particularly in the rabbinical texts where the pouch of the
Speaker 1: slingshot is the astral world's souls dwell in until they're
Speaker 1: reincarnated or until they peer and move on. They and
Speaker 1: Saturn seems to be the escape from Alcatraz planet. And
Speaker 1: what's interesting many ufologists say, well, we see all these
Speaker 1: crafts coming in and out of there. Well, there's something
Speaker 1: coming in and out of there. I can tell you
Speaker 1: that I've seen it, and whatever it is, it certainly
Speaker 1: seems to be a very divine place here where a
Speaker 1: lot of pain, a lot of love, and all points
Speaker 1: in between go on to purify and rectify the soul.
Speaker 1: And I think the ancient rabbinical texts. There's a library
Speaker 1: that was found in the seventeen hundreds that was over
Speaker 1: two thousand years old. It was known as the chiro
Speaker 1: Genzia Synagogue in Egypt. Blow your hairback, blow. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've been pilfering through those things forever. And I mean,
Speaker 1: oh my God, talk about journey of the souls. It
Speaker 1: is and Rome will not look at it. They throw
Speaker 1: everything in the bottom of the ba and you're all
Speaker 1: sinners and you're all going to hell, you know. So,
Speaker 1: I mean it's not that I think Christianity is the problem.
Speaker 1: I just think some of the forefathers throughout critical documents
Speaker 1: that you know, blow your hair back.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, have you heard of the recognitions of Clement?
Speaker 3: Have you heard of that writing? No? I have not.
Speaker 3: That's interesting, it's yeah, really interesting. There's some really cool
Speaker 3: parts in there that talk about how demons get access
Speaker 3: to a person's body through the digestive system and gorging
Speaker 3: oneself and things like that, and wine and stuff, and
Speaker 3: so there's some really intricate stuff in there. I think
Speaker 3: he was a disciple of Peter and barnabas uh as
Speaker 3: it were.
Speaker 1: Well, I know where he got that stuff. I can
Speaker 1: tell you that if if you crack into the the
Speaker 1: older texts, which is the again Shariah Gilgum, the Nephessa
Speaker 1: sits is where a lot of these Christian writers had
Speaker 1: gotten that stuff. And they're right, They're absolutely right. You
Speaker 1: can get that from plants. This is where blessing of
Speaker 1: food came from. See in the Shariha Gilgum, it talks
Speaker 1: about how evil souls will be possibly incarnate, and this
Speaker 1: will blow your hair back. In the mineral kingdom, the
Speaker 1: animal kingdom, or the plant kingdom, or the human kingdom.
Speaker 1: There are stories that are mind boggling where a person
Speaker 1: will actually get incarnated in some inanimate object in their
Speaker 1: consciousness or in a leaf and they'll blow and this
Speaker 1: stuff sounds incredible, like how could you possibly put the
Speaker 1: consciousness of human being into something like that? And then
Speaker 1: when that leaf dies, that is over with. I just
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a quick story that just happened to
Speaker 1: me that is really amazing. My son went into an
Speaker 1: animal shelter about, oh, what was it, probably fift fourteen
Speaker 1: years ago, and this beautiful little kitty was going to
Speaker 1: be killed and he just looked at it and said,
Speaker 1: oh my god. Mom, and Daddy says, can I take
Speaker 1: it home? They're going to kill it? And I said, sure,
Speaker 1: so bring her home. When we named her Katie, right,
Speaker 1: and that was a very unusual cat, and we always
Speaker 1: kept her in the house and just the last few
Speaker 1: years here in California, we started letting her out and
Speaker 1: I said, I'm worried about this cat. She's domesticated. Something's
Speaker 1: going to get her because we got a lot of
Speaker 1: coyotes where we live. And I was petting her on
Speaker 1: the couch about a year ago and she looked up
Speaker 1: at me, and I looked into her aura and I
Speaker 1: saw this tortured soul inside of her, and I'm patting her,
Speaker 1: and I went, oh, my god, someone's in you. I
Speaker 1: could see this soul, this human soul. I could see it,
Speaker 1: and I actually saw the eyes it through her and
Speaker 1: I know what I saw, and I just had such
Speaker 1: a change and I thought, Wow, what a tortured soul
Speaker 1: inside of her. And then she would be outside. Well,
Speaker 1: just about a week ago, our dog got sick. She
Speaker 1: she had diarrhye and very gross. Anyways, we had to
Speaker 1: clean it up in the bedroom because she sleeps in
Speaker 1: the bedroom with us. And outside, I heard Katie, the cat,
Speaker 1: making these wild sounds and I let the dog out,
Speaker 1: and our dogs started barking like crazy, and I knew
Speaker 1: something's not right here, something really. The energy felt really
Speaker 1: kind of demonic and strange. And I saw Katie flying
Speaker 1: through the air and she grabs onto this tree and
Speaker 1: then the dog was barking. It was very weird energy
Speaker 1: and I know that's like demonic energy. I could tell.
Speaker 1: And that was the last time we ever saw Katie.
Speaker 1: And I then saw coyote right underneath the tree outside
Speaker 1: the fence, and I think she came down and it
Speaker 1: got her, and she's gone. And I actually looked at
Speaker 1: a chart the cat's gone, and I think that soul
Speaker 1: was released. Now that sounds crazy, but if you look
Speaker 1: at some of the ancient Egyptian, Tibet and Vedantic and
Speaker 1: rabbinical text, they'll talk about how cats have a very
Speaker 1: interesting parallel of imbuing souls at times. That's why cats
Speaker 1: have always been said they're mysterious, they're very strange. And
Speaker 1: I know Katie and we miss her so much because
Speaker 1: I know she was killed and I heard it. I
Speaker 1: heard and I couldn't get to her because it was
Speaker 1: outside the fence. I heard it, and then God she
Speaker 1: died quickly. But death, they actually say, is a purification.
Speaker 1: And you know, to those who want to end their
Speaker 1: lives early, I would say, do not do that, because
Speaker 1: God has a plan for when we are to vacate
Speaker 1: this body. And I think it's very important that we
Speaker 1: live out our lives and get this releasement because a
Speaker 1: lot of evil souls, you know, they may escape the
Speaker 1: courts of human beings, but from what I see in astrology,
Speaker 1: we're not going to escape the divine court. They actually say,
Speaker 1: angels beat the heck out of us when we lie
Speaker 1: in front of the celestial court when we're brought there.
Speaker 1: And food is to be blessed to release souls, they say,
Speaker 1: in salads and meats or whatever else your diet is,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to bless the food to release any spiritual
Speaker 1: energy that's on it, so it doesn't come in you.
Speaker 1: So you know, only thank you God for the food.
Speaker 1: You're blessing it to release any energies on it. And
Speaker 1: there's you say, I like the cabalistic stuff, and I'll
Speaker 1: tell you why. There are rabbinical texts that I have.
Speaker 1: They're called unifications and purifications where you can actually unify
Speaker 1: fragments of your soul through certain very deep numerological prayers
Speaker 1: and permutations. And then there's also what they call unifications
Speaker 1: where you can unify with certain angelic forces and saints.
Speaker 1: Very fascinating stuff.
Speaker 3: We can talk about that. Yeah, yeah, there's so much
Speaker 3: to talk about it. And I think there's you know,
Speaker 3: I think we have a lot of pieces of truth,
Speaker 3: you know that. I think it's enough for us to
Speaker 3: you know that that actually leads us into discovery, to
Speaker 3: ask the questions or to try things. I mean, I
Speaker 3: can't tell you, I mean how I know it sounds crazy,
Speaker 3: but trying to communicate with my animals as well, like hey,
Speaker 3: are you a person? Just want to know, like if
Speaker 3: you are you you know, cognitive, do you remember English?
Speaker 3: Like all of these things. And then even like I
Speaker 3: had one dog who man, she was the cutest little
Speaker 3: puppy and uh we uh uh she had a she
Speaker 3: was vicious though, cutest little dog, but vicious. I mean
Speaker 3: she would just attack other animals. Her name was Casey
Speaker 3: and we called her Katie. That's interesting, you said, But
Speaker 3: I remember, like because she had this anger that she
Speaker 3: was just attacked, man, And I remember burning sage around her,
Speaker 3: and she like she did not like it, like she
Speaker 3: would panic, but the other dogs would be okay. But
Speaker 3: I would hold the sage close to her and try
Speaker 3: to like pray over her or see if they it
Speaker 3: was a demon that needed to come out, because she
Speaker 3: was the cutest little animal. And but yeah, it just
Speaker 3: you know, makes you ask the bigger questions and just
Speaker 3: to try it, like you never know, you feel silly
Speaker 3: doing it, you know, but what if you know, I
Speaker 3: think like Jesus, like spinning in the ground and making
Speaker 3: the mud and putting in somebody's eyes, like seems silly,
Speaker 3: right if one of our friends did that, But what
Speaker 3: if the person gets healed after he does it, Like,
Speaker 3: hold on, there's some kind of alchemy. He knew something,
Speaker 3: there was some kind of connection with his faith with
Speaker 3: that mud, or something was going on that he understood.
Speaker 3: And so if you don't try it, if you don't
Speaker 3: step out after having these experiences, whether it's the UFO
Speaker 3: or ghost or ancestors or anything like that, it'll just
Speaker 3: be something that's fleeting. But I think it goes to
Speaker 3: show someone like yourself, someone like me and many others
Speaker 3: who I would say have been privileged to have many
Speaker 3: experiences versus some people who haven't had any in their
Speaker 3: entire life, at least they're not cognitive of it. But
Speaker 3: how can some people not have any? And then we
Speaker 3: go on to have like every day is a magical
Speaker 3: experience and expectancy of entities and angels and aliens and
Speaker 3: UFOs and those things. And so I think that just
Speaker 3: taking that step out, you know, to say hello, or
Speaker 3: to try to find that repeatability, if you will, with
Speaker 3: the different realms that we're in contact with throughout the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we all have them. I think it's
Speaker 1: just a matter of being open to them. You know,
Speaker 1: I mentioned doctor Carl Wickland. He absolutely did not believe
Speaker 1: in anything spiritual. Here's a died in the world psychiatrist.
Speaker 1: In order to be psychiatrists, you first have to be
Speaker 1: a medical doctor. And then after he became a medical doctor,
Speaker 1: he went, you know, into psychiatry. And during his internship,
Speaker 1: he said, they were doing dissection on cadavers and there's
Speaker 1: all kinds of paranormal things like the papers would blow
Speaker 1: eat her voices of the person's spirit that was next
Speaker 1: to the body they were working on. And he just
Speaker 1: pooh poohed that that stuff's nonsense. Right, And so doctor
Speaker 1: Carl Wickland moved to Los Angeles, I think this is
Speaker 1: nineteen eighteen, don't quote me, it's in the book, and
Speaker 1: talk about psychics and spirit and channels. As fate would
Speaker 1: have it, he went to a party and met this
Speaker 1: beautiful woman, became smitten with her and wanted to marry her. Right, well,
Speaker 1: here's a guy who didn't believe in anything spiritual, nothing
Speaker 1: out of the norm. And what is she She's a channel,
Speaker 1: She's a spiritual psychic channel, and apparently because of his
Speaker 1: love for her and he respected, you know that she
Speaker 1: was very intelligent, he later undertook a very detailed scientific
Speaker 1: analysis as to whether she was crazy or not. And
Speaker 1: this is all in the book. And I'm paraphrasing, of course,
Speaker 1: so if I'm not one hundred percent accurate, anyone could
Speaker 1: get the book and read it. And the story was
Speaker 1: he had I've got to remember this is the late teens,
Speaker 1: early twenties. This is before recording, you know, this is
Speaker 1: back you know when you had the dictaphone just coming
Speaker 1: in from Thomas Edison, you know. So he apparently he
Speaker 1: had someone taking shorthand or something. It's in the book.
Speaker 1: And what happened was his wife took in a spirit
Speaker 1: who looked at doctor Carl Wickland. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I didn't mention this. Doctor Carl Wickland is the guy
Speaker 1: who popularized shock therapy treatment, which is being used to
Speaker 1: this day. Some hideous stuff, right, Why did they use
Speaker 1: shock therapy treatment? Well, when people get schizophrenic or they
Speaker 1: get multiple personality disorder, there when they shock them, it
Speaker 1: somehow changes it. Well, here's why. It drives out the
Speaker 1: possessing entity and oftentimes they are disincarnate souls rather than monics,
Speaker 1: and which we would call dead people or ghosts. Right. Well,
Speaker 1: so here's here's the way this all came about. This book.
Speaker 1: Doctor Carl Wickland is listening and this person in his
Speaker 1: wife's body said, you're the one who's been shocking me
Speaker 1: with that body. And he says, well, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: And the person says, well, don't you remember you You
Speaker 1: came out with these probes and you were hitting me
Speaker 1: with this lightning. And then the person began to describe
Speaker 1: in grave detail all the things that went wrong. I
Speaker 1: guess something really went wrong and things were knocked over,
Speaker 1: and the person went crazy and he said, there's no
Speaker 1: way you could know this, all these details and what
Speaker 1: I said to you unless you were there. And the
Speaker 1: person says, well, of course I was there. And he says,
Speaker 1: by any chance, do you wear a wedding ring and
Speaker 1: a dress? And he looked down and he said no.
Speaker 1: He says, but oh my god, you're right, I'm controlling
Speaker 1: someone who has a wedding ring and a dress. He says, well,
Speaker 1: apparently you're dead as people know it, and you're possessing
Speaker 1: my wife's body. And the guy said well, that makes
Speaker 1: sense because nobody listens to me anymore. And I apparently
Speaker 1: he was owned a drug store and all his employees
Speaker 1: couldn't hear him anymore because he was a ghost. He
Speaker 1: was literally running around trying to talk to people. A
Speaker 1: lot of folks don't even know they're dead from many
Speaker 1: of these reports. And I find the same thing when
Speaker 1: I do clearing on properties and people. A lot of
Speaker 1: these I've seen literally people from four hundred years ago
Speaker 1: still dwelling on properties that they don't even know they're dead.
Speaker 1: They're guarding the place. You know, They're just in their
Speaker 1: own psychoanoetic dimension, if you will, If anybody wants to
Speaker 1: read about some of this stuff. One of my favorite books.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of The Magus of Stroblos?
Speaker 3: I have not.
Speaker 1: It's an amazing text. He's a Christian mystic who lived
Speaker 1: on the island of Cyprus. He lived in the city
Speaker 1: of Strobolos, and I encourage anyone to read that book
Speaker 1: if anyone wants to question whether or not we're spiritual
Speaker 1: beings having a physical experience, and that book will blow
Speaker 1: your hairbag. The truths in that will blow your hairback.
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite texts commend he's now gone.
Speaker 1: He died in two thousand and one, but his work
Speaker 1: is carried on by many. But he was amazing, and
Speaker 1: he back to doctor Carl Wicklan. He talked about how
Speaker 1: the person in his wife's body, you know, no one
Speaker 1: could hear him. And he then saw his mother who
Speaker 1: had died like forty fifty years earlier, and he said,
Speaker 1: oh my god, there's my mom. And so in dialogue,
Speaker 1: the doctor got this disincarnate soul to leave his wife's
Speaker 1: body and go off into the light. And here's what's
Speaker 1: the clincher. The patient in the PS psychiatric ward in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles cleared up, no more multiple personality disorder, no
Speaker 1: more psychotic reactions. And he ended up discharging a very
Speaker 1: short time afterwards. And that was the beginning of thirty
Speaker 1: years of research among disincarnate souls through his wife channeling.
Speaker 1: And I encourage anyone to read that because it is
Speaker 1: an amazingly well written texts that went out of print
Speaker 1: I think in the seventies and now it's back in print.
Speaker 1: It's uh. I've talked to many psychiatrists. I have a
Speaker 1: lot of clients who are in psychiatchiatry and psychology in prisons,
Speaker 1: and we discussed things in data ch astrology and other
Speaker 1: types about cycles and why certain souls are doing what
Speaker 1: they're doing, and very fascinating stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm into.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I approach it from the Christian mystic or Hebrew perspective
Speaker 3: as well. And so when I first started out, I
Speaker 3: got into summoning spirits and all types of different magic.
Speaker 3: I was combining a bunch and ended up getting possessed,
Speaker 3: if you will, and almost lost my mind and things
Speaker 3: like that. And this was back That's what happens that
Speaker 3: I ended up coming back home and like crying out
Speaker 3: to God for help, and it was through church and
Speaker 3: prayer and Jesus and things like that I was able
Speaker 3: to find solace. And so there's a right way and
Speaker 3: the wrong way to dance with the other realms. We're
Speaker 3: I think we are dancing with them, whether we know
Speaker 3: it or not. Right, some people are just victims and
Speaker 3: other people are victors. When it comes to it, I
Speaker 3: think it comes down to whether you know it or
Speaker 3: not plays a big role. So then you can learn
Speaker 3: maybe some of the rules of engagement astrology, right, some
Speaker 3: of the ancient texts and demons and how they operate, angels,
Speaker 3: all of that. So that's where it comes in for
Speaker 3: me and many other people who are intrigued. But there
Speaker 3: is a right way and the wrong way to do it,
Speaker 3: and possession is very real, you know, and very real.
Speaker 1: Oh that's an interesting background you've got.
Speaker 3: There, trying to help people navigate through this, Like you
Speaker 3: don't want to just do the Christian approach and just
Speaker 3: say don't mess with anything at all. It's all demonics,
Speaker 3: stay away from it, because it's not like it's our birthright.
Speaker 3: We are these spiritual beings, but it's about you know,
Speaker 3: I don't want to stifle exploration, but we have to
Speaker 3: use precaution in things as well.
Speaker 1: Well. That's an interesting topic you bring up there, because
Speaker 1: I was exposed to some really rural folks back in
Speaker 1: the eighties and I was warned angelically not to get
Speaker 1: involved with it, and they were approaching me. We've all
Speaker 1: been around these cults, these different things, and I also
Speaker 1: was working and I don't want to mention any names
Speaker 1: or sex or religions that I've studied and been around,
Speaker 1: and I've always been warned stay at a distance, look
Speaker 1: from the distance, don't get in there. But look and see.
Speaker 1: And I was like prying the lid back and looking
Speaker 1: in and studying some of their documents and texts, but
Speaker 1: not getting engaged. One of the things that is exceedingly dangerous,
Speaker 1: like a nocchi and magic, the Keys of Solomon, the
Speaker 1: Lesser Greater Keys, all these the Golden Dawn, Golden Dawn
Speaker 1: everyone knows about. Of course, as we know, the Golden
Speaker 1: Dawn was really created by a e. Wait and Mathers
Speaker 1: and I think one other individual finding a bunch of
Speaker 1: books in a bookstall in London. That's how the Golden
Speaker 1: Non came about in the eighteen hundreds. And everybody thinks, oh,
Speaker 1: they were all these great mystics. Well they might have been,
Speaker 1: but they stumbled onto these documents and texts, which interestingly enough,
Speaker 1: was from a lady out of Germany. Now go back
Speaker 1: to Hitler, go back to Germany and all the occult
Speaker 1: stuff that's gone on there. Germany's a very interesting little place.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's created two World wars, but a cult wise,
Speaker 1: let's take Luther. Let's just take the Christian religion. Do
Speaker 1: you ever hear the City of Worms in Germany? It's
Speaker 1: an amazing little city. That's where Luther was tried for
Speaker 1: hear see there the Romans sent a brigade of Roman
Speaker 1: soldiers and killed every man, woman and child by the sword,
Speaker 1: take them out because they believed that Jesus was the
Speaker 1: son of God rather than God. That's been pretty harsh
Speaker 1: treatment there. So when we look at the dogma that
Speaker 1: has been inflicted upon different societies, I mean, the same
Speaker 1: thing happened in Spain with the expulsion of the Jews,
Speaker 1: with the whole thing. So we look back in history,
Speaker 1: this is strong arm stuff, just like we're seeing now,
Speaker 1: this strong arming on political sides. And I don't want
Speaker 1: to get into politics and who's right and who's wrong,
Speaker 1: but this is the astrology showing this right now that
Speaker 1: we are at a critical crisis point of change in
Speaker 1: many of the dogmas in society. And this is why
Speaker 1: we're seeing this clash here between many different factions around
Speaker 1: the world, not just in the United States. And what's
Speaker 1: fascinating is Germany was so full of occult stuff that
Speaker 1: in magic. See, one of my favorite guys was Rabbi Maharel.
Speaker 1: He lived in the thirteen hundreds and many people will
Speaker 1: know him by the text The Sacred Magic of Abramel
Speaker 1: and the Age. I'm sure you've heard of that, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: very very fascinating text. But those texts are are astounding.
Speaker 1: And this is all about getting your guardian angel to
Speaker 1: come to you. And uh, you know this, this is deep,
Speaker 1: deep stuff, very dangerous stuff when people go down these paths.
Speaker 1: And thank God, literally we are protected by the angelic forces,
Speaker 1: so we wouldn't be drawing breath, nothing would exist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost. What what I found is that these entities,
Speaker 3: you know, they will exchange information and power and things
Speaker 3: like that, renown but in exchange for something, right, there's
Speaker 3: always something that you have to pay, right, it's a
Speaker 3: whether it's a blood covenant, blood sacrifice or something, or
Speaker 3: even like a trinket like I just I wear this
Speaker 3: ring because not so now that entity has a physical
Speaker 3: representation in the physical world through you. But what I've
Speaker 3: seen for the most part is they want to live
Speaker 3: within your psyche, they want to live within the mind
Speaker 3: and so causes.
Speaker 1: They want to suck off your energy things like that.
Speaker 3: So it never it never ends, well, especially when there's
Speaker 3: a clever way to do it, like to receive higher information,
Speaker 3: beautiful clean information, right, I do think that that's possible
Speaker 3: as well from the angelic, from the uh not having
Speaker 3: to you know, deal with the lower level entities which
Speaker 3: are so easily accessible. It seems like it seems like
Speaker 3: that you have to have a lifestyle of things that
Speaker 3: you can and cannot do to access the higher realms.
Speaker 3: Whether it's lying, cheating, stealing, debauchery, murder, drunkenness and things
Speaker 3: like that that are all attached to the lower level
Speaker 3: entities and things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they do. They influence a lot of this.
Speaker 1: I've had that discussion with psychiatrists and prisons where you know,
Speaker 1: we've literally said, you know, there's possession going on here,
Speaker 1: and you know they can't enter that into the secular
Speaker 1: left brain world of psychiatry. You know, you can't put
Speaker 1: in a report while we think this person is best.
Speaker 1: But I mean, Charles Manson was a perfect example. I
Speaker 1: factually I knew one of the Federal Asians that had
Speaker 1: worked on that. He was quite old, and in fact
Speaker 1: I met him up in Majave Motorcycling here about five
Speaker 1: years ago or no Pismo Beach, and he was saying,
Speaker 1: he said, Jeff, I've been in that cell. He said
Speaker 1: that dude is possessed. He said, there you can feel it,
Speaker 1: and this is the danger of the occult. And this
Speaker 1: is where I think a lot of religions are correct
Speaker 1: that if you stick to God, and I really believe
Speaker 1: one central thing, there is one God, you know, and
Speaker 1: all of the rest is subservient angelic forces. And the
Speaker 1: story of the demonic fall really seems to be true.
Speaker 1: And it seems to be that our souls got intertwined
Speaker 1: with portions and fragments of this, and that's the purpose
Speaker 1: of Earth is to repurify that. You know. There's many
Speaker 1: theories and this is so deep stuff I don't claim,
Speaker 1: and no one I've ever heard has had the direct answer.
Speaker 1: But my theory at this point is that this particular
Speaker 1: three dimensional five cents reality, even though it's many more
Speaker 1: dimensions than three, is a place where we get to
Speaker 1: come experience the egoic sense of free will, and then
Speaker 1: come back. There's an ancient story that I love where
Speaker 1: the angels, the upper angels, and the thrones were talking
Speaker 1: to God and they said, what the heck did you?
Speaker 1: Why do you support these humans? You know, it's only
Speaker 1: do they go down there, they kill each other. They
Speaker 1: don't believe in creation. They don't even know we exist.
Speaker 1: They're just horrible and why do you support this? And
Speaker 1: God said yes. But they come back. They come back,
Speaker 1: They come back with the experience of what evil is
Speaker 1: and what the other side is, and they become more
Speaker 1: holy because of it. Now, some souls get lost, they
Speaker 1: actually say a lot of souls. That is. The prize
Speaker 1: of a demon is to get a soul to go
Speaker 1: into deep magic sacrifices, and you can actually lose the soul.
Speaker 1: You know, one of my favorite little texts anybody can
Speaker 1: read this, it's called the screw Tape Letters by the
Speaker 1: wonderful writer C. S. Lewis, who wrote you know, Narnia,
Speaker 1: and C. S. Lewis was really into astrology and in
Speaker 1: the right way. He looked at it for what it is.
Speaker 1: It's just the path of the soul. And in the
Speaker 1: Screwtape Letters there's a great story about this little demon. Uncle,
Speaker 1: one of my human subjects has just joined the religion
Speaker 1: and I don't know what to do. We could lose
Speaker 1: them to the enemy. Ah, I don't worry about a thing,
Speaker 1: my friend. We've taken good care of the religions. We've
Speaker 1: neuted it all. We've possessed those that were in control,
Speaker 1: and all these little books that someone come bustling up
Speaker 1: is really about us. But nobody can really figure out anymore.
Speaker 1: And so don't worry about the religion. They all sit
Speaker 1: in the pews, and notice how they're hypocritical on you know,
Speaker 1: the rest of the week, and then they come in
Speaker 1: and act all holy and now on Sunday, and you
Speaker 1: treat each other like crap the rest of the week.
Speaker 1: So it's a really it's a book written in satire.
Speaker 1: But what I love is the opening. He says, I
Speaker 1: cannot tell you where this book came from. I cannot
Speaker 1: tell you his factor fiction. Just read the book and
Speaker 1: understand where it goes. And I always, I always enjoyed
Speaker 1: that book. It's a great book.
Speaker 3: There's a there's a Christian writing, and I'm pretty pretty
Speaker 3: sure it came from that. I don't know if you've
Speaker 3: ever read it, though, but it's a It's a book
Speaker 3: called The Final Quest by Rick Joyner. Have you heard
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 1: I've heard of it, but I have not read it.
Speaker 3: Very so many books, yeah, yeah, yeah, very similar with
Speaker 3: the uh looking at the demonic chords and how they
Speaker 3: interact with humanity. But it's written as a just a
Speaker 3: work of just analogy and metaphor of the spirit world
Speaker 3: and how it's happening. But he I'm pretty sure it
Speaker 3: was a I want to say, a rip off, but
Speaker 3: it was definitely influenced by by the Screwtape letters and
Speaker 3: I still have and read that. I need to read that.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm doing here.
Speaker 1: Get the Magas of Strugglers. You you will absolutely adore
Speaker 1: that book.
Speaker 3: It's it is everybody mentioned and I don't know why
Speaker 3: I haven't read it yet, so I'm going to get
Speaker 3: it probably right when we get off of here. That's
Speaker 3: one thing that You've definitely blessed us with on this
Speaker 3: There's a lot of different reference points and I'm writing
Speaker 3: down some for myself, some of these different cabalistic texts
Speaker 3: to check out and stuff as well. That's what a
Speaker 3: lot of people get a gym of something that resonated
Speaker 3: with them through something that you said, especially when we
Speaker 3: cover so many topics like we do on here, something
Speaker 3: that they're like, hey, what is that book? Let me
Speaker 3: check that out, or let me check out astrology or
Speaker 3: vedic astrology. I mean, how many people don't that are listening,
Speaker 3: didn't even know that that was an actual thing. We
Speaker 3: like most of us, just think that there's only one
Speaker 3: form of astrology, stay away from it, and that's it.
Speaker 3: You knows all types of different astrologies and levels and
Speaker 3: all of that stuff too. So yeah, so much to
Speaker 3: choose from. Again, Man, hey, I really enjoyed this. Anytime
Speaker 3: you want to out with me, man, I'm over to
Speaker 3: it and I'll send you a.
Speaker 1: Well you're you're a good soul, no question about that.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it, and I.
Speaker 1: Think it's great you're doing the work you're doing. I mean,
Speaker 1: and I think I think your message. I love your
Speaker 1: story about how you played with magic and you got
Speaker 1: possessed every single every single client.
Speaker 3: And I've had.
Speaker 1: Clients who've been in some really dark places in vedic astrology.
Speaker 1: Blow your here back. I'll never forget. Well. I don't
Speaker 1: want to mention too much on air, but I had
Speaker 1: one client come in to in particular. I said, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I said, what happened to you right at
Speaker 1: this time? Tears would poor? You wouldn't believe it, I said,
Speaker 1: try me, I might. Now, how would I know that? Okay,
Speaker 1: it's not my genius, it's vedic astrology. And it takes
Speaker 1: years to learn this, but this person was in a horrible,
Speaker 1: horrible dawsha with horrible aspects. So this God isn't sitting
Speaker 1: in the sky making you or me tall or short
Speaker 1: of fat and intelligent, you know whatever, loving or hateful.
Speaker 1: It's our souls that do it. And the astrology mirrors that. Well.
Speaker 1: This person was actually involved in a Satanic sacrifice and
Speaker 1: I saw it in the chart and the tears were pouring.
Speaker 1: She was actually impregnated and she had the child and
Speaker 1: was forced to sacrifice it. I've seen this now two
Speaker 1: or three times now. This stuff is hideous. But when
Speaker 1: you speak about demons and magic and the dangers of this,
Speaker 1: this is where this stuff goes. And people have to
Speaker 1: know this where and all these stories that we hear
Speaker 1: on the internet about you know, the Pizzagate and all
Speaker 1: this stuff. I hate to say it, and I wish
Speaker 1: I were wrong, but I think it's true. And this
Speaker 1: is the hideous dark paths that happen when people play
Speaker 1: around with magic, and just like yourself, you, whatever your
Speaker 1: belief in God is, it can save you. And I
Speaker 1: urge people to not go down that path. I've had
Speaker 1: so many clients who there's prayers that I give out
Speaker 1: in readings when I see these yogas to help people
Speaker 1: not only purify their own karmic journey, but their families.
Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking mom and Dad and Grappa
Speaker 1: and Grandma. I'm talking about your family of soul lineage,
Speaker 1: which is really sacred stuff, and it involves a lot
Speaker 1: of these secrets in the scriptures and the psalms. And
Speaker 1: it's true you mentioned the christ energies. I mean, if
Speaker 1: we could ever get to the bottom of what really
Speaker 1: happened there, I mean, that's why I urge you to
Speaker 1: read The Magasin of Struggles. You'll see just how mystical
Speaker 1: and sacredly magic this stuff. Is it true sacred holy magic.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they were some deep individuals, Tolkien and C. S. Lewis,
Speaker 3: Like they all learned from the mystics of old and
Speaker 3: like they were into some deep stuff like they I
Speaker 3: think they really understood. And so a lot of the
Speaker 3: people that you know, I'm influenced by some of the
Speaker 3: Jordan Maxwell's or the Michael Serien which and those kind
Speaker 3: of guys. They're definitely influenced by the Tolkiens and the C.
Speaker 3: S Lewis and those guys. So they were onto some
Speaker 3: stuff man, especially, you know, but being able to tell
Speaker 3: it in a story like that, like if you was
Speaker 3: just to tell like sit down and hey, we're being
Speaker 3: attacked by demons right now, Like people gonna think you're crazy.
Speaker 3: But then you put it in a movie. You're talking
Speaker 3: about the technology and what we have right now, and
Speaker 3: it would be hard for us to fathom. Just watch
Speaker 3: Star Wars. Just watch Star Wars and we you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, So we have that stuff, that technology,
Speaker 3: even them Like communing with the dead in Star Wars.
Speaker 3: That was a big one for me. Like there was
Speaker 3: a part and I forgot what episode it was. But
Speaker 3: at the end, Yoda was going to teach who is this,
Speaker 3: uh the disciple of Qui Gon who was it Obi Wan?
Speaker 3: They're walking off into the sunset, and he said, come
Speaker 3: with me. I got to show you some stuff. I
Speaker 3: want to show you how to commune with your master
Speaker 3: who is who's gone on to the other side. He's
Speaker 3: like Qui God. He's like, yeah, I'm gonna teach you
Speaker 3: how to do it. And so like that's something that
Speaker 3: was practice all throughout religion and I'm even finding things
Speaker 3: in the in the scriptures, in a New Testament, where
Speaker 3: Jesus did similar things with his masters and stuff of
Speaker 3: things that were echoed. And it's in our art, in literature. Obviously,
Speaker 3: it's not in religion anymore. That's heresy to speak of
Speaker 3: that in the in the churches now, but it's within
Speaker 3: the movies, and it's within a lot of these ancient
Speaker 3: texts like you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Sure, Sure, I have a client. He wrote a book
Speaker 1: that is the Missing Years of Christ that they believe
Speaker 1: could possibly have been in India and paralleling. That's why
Speaker 1: the Magas of Struggles you'll find so interesting to people
Speaker 1: who read it. He's nicknamed Doscolos. Doscalos just means Greece.
Speaker 1: It's the Grecian name for teacher, and he is. When
Speaker 1: you read Doscolos, he's a Christian mystic, clearly, but he
Speaker 1: also speaks with great reverence to all the other religions.
Speaker 1: And he said a term that I believe is very correct.
Speaker 1: He said, trying to figure out God is like trying
Speaker 1: to figure out a multifaceted diamond. You won't, you will not.
Speaker 1: In fact, the more I learn about all this stuff,
Speaker 1: the more humble I get, and the more I realize
Speaker 1: that we're with these things called gray matter. You will
Speaker 1: never figure it out from an intellectually deductive reasoning standpoint.
Speaker 1: You will never figure it all out. From a spiritual one.
Speaker 1: You can receive how divine and vast it is. And
Speaker 1: wisdom is much different than logic. You know, logic, we're
Speaker 1: all trained to get a job and get a degree
Speaker 1: and follow all the rules, which is all great. But
Speaker 1: wisdom is another portion of the psyche and the consciousness
Speaker 1: that is much much different than deductive reasoning and logic.
Speaker 1: And I think that's again what many of the ancients,
Speaker 1: particularly the bat and India, talked about Muksha was enlightenment.
Speaker 1: This is maybe many of the references that we see
Speaker 1: in Rabbinical texts and Christian texts is the world's beyond
Speaker 1: is where we commune and know, where the higher self
Speaker 1: is much broader than the lower intellectual mind will ever be.
Speaker 1: We can never go there in an intellectual sense. It
Speaker 1: always ends up in ego, and it will always end
Speaker 1: up in some logical deduction of what it is, what
Speaker 1: does it mean? And you know, all of us are
Speaker 1: seeking the truth. And I think when we look at
Speaker 1: it from that viewpoint. It's a much safer place to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I like how you mentioned the diamond. I got
Speaker 3: a good friend of mine. Every time we do a
Speaker 3: live with him, he pulls out the diamond. He's got
Speaker 3: this deep breakdown of how we're all facets of that
Speaker 3: diamond and the color and the shape and the reflection,
Speaker 3: and we can't see the other side unless we go
Speaker 3: to that perspective, but then we're missing all the other sides.
Speaker 3: So I think the diamond is definitely a beautiful perspective
Speaker 3: of our individuality and our own perspective of the one. Like,
Speaker 3: we're all still part of that diamond, but with these
Speaker 3: different reflections, And so is your religion, so so is
Speaker 3: your experience or your faith or whatever the case is.
Speaker 3: Especially you're never gonna you're never gonna get to the
Speaker 3: bottom of it, like you said, But I think that
Speaker 3: I think that the bottom of it is love, though,
Speaker 3: is universal love. I think that's like, that's the worldview
Speaker 3: of responding with love, of answering with love to everything,
Speaker 3: to all, to the people that wronged you, to to
Speaker 3: your God, to your former self, to your childhood, to
Speaker 3: the trauma, embracing the future with love and expectancy and
Speaker 3: childlike faith. So I think that that that's at least
Speaker 3: some of the rules of engagement. And once you understand
Speaker 3: that love is what leads you and gives you grace
Speaker 3: to look into some of the deeper truths and mysteries
Speaker 3: and uh, and not to look down on anything or
Speaker 3: anyone else because that's their perspective or story. I think that, Uh.
Speaker 3: I think that opens you up to have more beautiful encounters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, stoicism comes to mind. You know a lot of
Speaker 1: the really deep sacred places. I don't care if you're
Speaker 1: talking about the monks, or the Tibetans, or the Egyptians
Speaker 1: or the you know, certain classes, they certain groups they
Speaker 1: would talk about stoicism where you know, when you negate
Speaker 1: the ego to where you're not so reactive. Like if
Speaker 1: you ask someone, well, how do you feel when someone
Speaker 1: hates you and calls you names and it's mean to you. Well,
Speaker 1: nobody likes that, right. How do you feel when someone
Speaker 1: praises you and tells you you're just so wonderful? Well,
Speaker 1: everybody loves that one. Right, Pet's the ego. But stop
Speaker 1: for a second and just think, like an airline pilot,
Speaker 1: if you were fifty thousand feet above watching all of this,
Speaker 1: and you kind of raise your consciousness in that vibration
Speaker 1: and you say, well, Okay, someone hates you, someone loves you,
Speaker 1: what does that really mean. That's their opinion of their
Speaker 1: ego extensive self at that time, and not that we
Speaker 1: should all run around and be zombies or not be emotional,
Speaker 1: because emotions are magical and they're wonderful and we have
Speaker 1: a right to that. But I think when we stop
Speaker 1: becoming so engaged in our egoic sense of self, we
Speaker 1: bind with the upper levels of the soul. And that's
Speaker 1: what they're speaking about. And see, if you read the
Speaker 1: Magasu struggle, it's one of the most important things is elementals,
Speaker 1: the third eye chakra. We look at people when we
Speaker 1: look at them, but what we're really doing is projecting
Speaker 1: out of the third eye etheric energy. Those are literally
Speaker 1: thought for energies. If you've ever seen doctor Emoto's work,
Speaker 1: you know, the Japanese scientist who messages in water. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly amazing.
Speaker 3: So what did he do?
Speaker 1: He had people pray over water and take a Petri
Speaker 1: disk and he would, you know, freeze it. And to
Speaker 1: the skeptics, I say, well, how could he have come
Speaker 1: up with so many so diverse? All sacred thoughts had
Speaker 1: varying shapes of sacred geometry, Worry, anger, feared, discord always
Speaker 1: looks like gobbledegook. And you know, just for anybody who
Speaker 1: hasn't seen, let me just take a second. I actually
Speaker 1: have a picture of a couple of his things that
Speaker 1: I love to show people. You'll see here this is
Speaker 1: it right being wrong there, So again here's an example.
Speaker 1: And for anybody's interested, get you know, messages and water? Well,
Speaker 1: what am I talking about here? Well, we emit out
Speaker 1: of our third eye chakra elementals known as etheric energy.
Speaker 1: Do you ever notice when someone's really really mad, that's
Speaker 1: what they call the evil eye? Right, you're projecting very
Speaker 1: angry elementals at someone, even though you don't know it.
Speaker 1: In fact, our oric field, this is a whole subject
Speaker 1: called physiogomy in the medieval times, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: you look at a person, you can see what they're like.
Speaker 1: You can detect right away before they open their mouths
Speaker 1: a lot of what they're like. Though sometimes we can
Speaker 1: be wrong. You can't always judge a book by its caver,
Speaker 1: but in general you can see that they're stressed or
Speaker 1: they've lived a life of bliss or happiness or stress
Speaker 1: or anger. It shows up. I mean you can see
Speaker 1: it on people and are heavy drinkers and smokers especially.
Speaker 1: Not only is it the physical, but it's also the
Speaker 1: energy that they permeated. So what's so fascinating is that
Speaker 1: when I go into this, it's basically we project what
Speaker 1: our lower egoic self believes. And this is why the
Speaker 1: conscious mind is such a powerful tool. And I think
Speaker 1: the more we realize that, the more we can direct
Speaker 1: it to healthier ways of being conscious. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. The Megas of Crevelos is a wonderful book,
Speaker 1: and those elementals there's an old saying, stiff necked in
Speaker 1: this world, you will be in the next. It's amazing
Speaker 1: how much we take with us through these incarnations. What
Speaker 1: we believe belief is a very interesting word. You know.
Speaker 1: We tend to believe what we believe based on deductive reasoning,
Speaker 1: but that's not truth and that's not true wisdom.
Speaker 3: You know, what do you think about Blavotsky's work on
Speaker 3: the elementals or just her work in general, But I
Speaker 3: think I think the elemental stuff is really interesting that
Speaker 3: she brought to the table.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Blavotsky went that whole movement, started the spiritualist movement
Speaker 1: in the eighteen hundreds, excuse me, and she went over
Speaker 1: to India. I think a lot of her work was
Speaker 1: regurgitated from what she picked up from many of the
Speaker 1: yogi's there's a lot of truth to it. But I
Speaker 1: also Leavotsky's work, I have it all. It kind of
Speaker 1: left me a little cold. It's like there was too
Speaker 1: much ego in it. And she actually came back. Believe
Speaker 1: it or not, Doctor Kyl Wickland channeled her with his wife.
Speaker 1: She came back and she admitted a lot of what
Speaker 1: was given out was accurate, but it was regurgitated that
Speaker 1: that she she felt that there was too much ego
Speaker 1: in it. And but there are a lot of truths.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's great about Blevatski's work is it's something
Speaker 1: you can pick up and read. But I urge people
Speaker 1: to read The Magus of Strolos because it is a
Speaker 1: profound the profound work. And another one if you go
Speaker 1: to stoas series dot com it's s t o A
Speaker 1: e R series. Just STOA s t o A and
Speaker 1: then series. You can get the book words of truth,
Speaker 1: which in fact, people can google Dosclos on the internet.
Speaker 1: You can. He's a little hard to understand because he's
Speaker 1: very Grecian, so his English is a bit broken. But
Speaker 1: the wisdom that comes through that man is astounding. That is,
Speaker 1: you know that Doscolos, the Magus of Solos, is the
Speaker 1: only written text I've ever seen where he had re
Speaker 1: He reincarnated as a child and actually met Christ.
Speaker 3: That's in that text.
Speaker 1: It'll blow your hair back. And he was actually taken
Speaker 1: by him when he died of gangrene. A Roman soldier
Speaker 1: stamped on his foot and he got gangreen. As he
Speaker 1: went back home, he said there was earthquakes. So it's interesting.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people ridicule the Christian myth.
Speaker 1: I personally think it happened.
Speaker 3: I really do.
Speaker 1: And what I'm sad about is how twisted and blocked
Speaker 1: the Church did. What they did to a lot of
Speaker 1: the documents and the connectedness between the older texts of
Speaker 1: the Torah of the ancient world. They just chopped it
Speaker 1: and made it a very politicized, changed religion. Hence why
Speaker 1: we've seen so many versions. We've seen the same thing
Speaker 1: in Judaism and other religions and Hinduism. People get a
Speaker 1: hold of these truths, they make them so dogmatic that
Speaker 1: then someone breaks off like Buddha or you take Luther,
Speaker 1: or you take you know, so many others that had
Speaker 1: broken offrom the Christian religion and so many others in Judaism,
Speaker 1: the same thing happened. You have the Hasidics, you have
Speaker 1: the Stoics, you have the you know, the Orthodox, and
Speaker 1: yet there's core truths in every one of them that
Speaker 1: are magical.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think with the Internet now and online
Speaker 3: communities and groups like that, and you can literally either
Speaker 3: pick and choose or piece together your own faith or
Speaker 3: religion now because just by doing the research, and what
Speaker 3: I mean by that is taking the good stuff from
Speaker 3: every religion and just there, you know, getting rid of
Speaker 3: all the bs, and I think we can make a
Speaker 3: really cool religion we put all the good stuff together. Right.
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of people doing that, and a
Speaker 3: lot of people waking up and using the Internet to
Speaker 3: kind of break away from some of the more traditional
Speaker 3: Christian westernized understandings and looking back to the East. There's
Speaker 3: a lot of Christians now looking to the East. They're
Speaker 3: looking at Hinduism, and even kind of using that as
Speaker 3: a filter to read the Bible even right of this
Speaker 3: h you know, we talked about mountains and things like that.
Speaker 3: You know, why was Jesus infatuated with going into a
Speaker 3: mountain to prey and going on top of a mountain
Speaker 3: to prey? Right where there's types of energies there that's
Speaker 3: higher frequencies. And then we look at you know, some
Speaker 3: people who may be Buddhist or Hindu, they literally go
Speaker 3: into a mountain or to a cave and or on
Speaker 3: top of a mountain what you know, in like the
Speaker 3: Himalayas to meditate and praise. So we're seeing all these
Speaker 3: different similarities within the Biblical text, and then it becomes
Speaker 3: a little bit more spiritual for us because we have
Speaker 3: some ways to interpret this through a Eastern lens versus
Speaker 3: this westernized religion that we've all been kind of entrapped
Speaker 3: into with Christianity anyway.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, George Carlin might have might not have been
Speaker 1: too far off base when he said the best thing
Speaker 1: that come out of the religions was the music, right,
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of t Yeah, I mean great
Speaker 1: respect for certain ones that don't get too dogmatic. I
Speaker 1: love the Again, some of the richness in the messages
Speaker 1: of souls and the old rabbinical texts are pretty profound.
Speaker 1: They really are. You cannot make this stuff up, and
Speaker 1: it's supported by the angelic hierarchies that actually can be
Speaker 1: extrapolated into the heavens, the astrology, the souls, the journeys
Speaker 1: of the souls, and you start seeing what astrology is
Speaker 1: and what it isn't you know a lot of people
Speaker 1: find in readings that you know, I'm actually telling them
Speaker 1: that you're not your astrology, and they're very surprised at that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, you free will You know, astrology doesn't
Speaker 1: make you do anything. It influences you. And it's really
Speaker 1: wonderful to look at what those influences are because here's
Speaker 1: here's the magic right here, the sacred magic, and that
Speaker 1: is if you understand that you have molific times or
Speaker 1: transits going on, and you react to those in a
Speaker 1: more conscious way, you're likely to do a lot better
Speaker 1: than had you not known they were there. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a reason the pope takes a bath and a bathtub.
Speaker 1: Throughout history, they've busted popes constantly studying, especially the ancient
Speaker 1: ones assiduously the ancient Egyptian and medieval astrology and Greek stuff,
Speaker 1: and they buried it. They really have. I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: they've got so much esoteric stuff involved with that. And
Speaker 1: what I like about the Rabbinical texts is it puts
Speaker 1: astrology in a clear place that it's really the interaction
Speaker 1: of the energies of the angelic forces on the soul.
Speaker 1: And the Vedantic does that as well too, the ancient
Speaker 1: Vedic scriptures. You really begin to see that we're really
Speaker 1: sojourners on a journey, and that when we view it
Speaker 1: that way, it's it's a lot healthier.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I uh, man, so many questions and comments that
Speaker 3: I'm forgetting them all. I usually try to write them
Speaker 3: all down, but I got my notepad all filled up.
Speaker 3: But there's so many good places to go with that.
Speaker 3: But man, but I'm I'm with you, and uh and
Speaker 3: that that's what my heart is, you know, the the
Speaker 3: Hebrew and and and I think we have pieces of
Speaker 3: that throughout our Christian literature. But like you said, going
Speaker 3: to see where they got some of this from. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm really I love the Testament of Solomon. I don't
Speaker 3: know if you now I do like that one, not
Speaker 3: the Keys of Solomon. I'm with you, stay away, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a lot of stuff on him.
Speaker 3: And uh yeah, just hearing the story. Like even in
Speaker 3: the Bible, there's mention of these different uh deities, whether
Speaker 3: it's bels Above and things like that that you only
Speaker 3: here mentioned once in the scripture, but going into Testament
Speaker 3: of Solomon or some of these other he break books
Speaker 3: that were taken out or once had and high regard,
Speaker 3: you know, going back and reading though to see where
Speaker 3: the influence came from the Book of Enoch even you know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, heavy duty stuff. Yeah, I mean you can
Speaker 1: get weighed on the rabbit hole on that one.
Speaker 3: Like you take.
Speaker 1: Everyone's heard, like you know, most most people we see,
Speaker 1: you know, they got a suit, tie and a microphone
Speaker 1: and they're talking about the devil right. Well, the you know,
Speaker 1: it gets a little deeper in that, folks. You got Lucifer, Satan,
Speaker 1: belile On, Leviathan. There, that's the four what they call
Speaker 1: princes of the fourth hierarchy that was cast down. Then
Speaker 1: you have eight beneath that, and you have legions upon
Speaker 1: legions upon legions upon legions of them underneath that, and
Speaker 1: I mean they say the terrestrial spirits, it's uncomfortable. It
Speaker 1: could be trillions, and thank God, literally the upper angels
Speaker 1: are there holding all this in a bance. It's you know,
Speaker 1: one of my friends, Claude Swanson, who wrote a book,
Speaker 1: a couple of books. One is called the Synchronized Universe,
Speaker 1: and he just takes it from a very left brain
Speaker 1: physics perspective and views the probability of the order of
Speaker 1: just physical matter is impossible to stay in its order
Speaker 1: like it does without something exceedingly intelligent and maintaining it. Well,
Speaker 1: when you get into this stuff, you go, well, you bet,
Speaker 1: I mean, look at I mean, these angelic forces are
Speaker 1: amazingly powerful, and that's why the Earth. I don't think
Speaker 1: the Earth will ever end, you know, like it might.
Speaker 1: What do I know? But from what I can see,
Speaker 1: the next real cataclysmic like cataclysm would be somewhere very
Speaker 1: close when we process into the next true age of
Speaker 1: Aquarius in the Maderial zodiac, which is going to be
Speaker 1: about when the Hebrew calendar runs out, which is about
Speaker 1: two hundred and something years from now. So I don't
Speaker 1: think it's right around the corner. Yes, we're going to
Speaker 1: have dissension and war and all the political stuff that
Speaker 1: we have and all that, and we could certainly end
Speaker 1: up with another major war. I hope we don't. I
Speaker 1: hope we never do. But these things come and go
Speaker 1: and a lot of souls get exchanged on that. But
Speaker 1: it keeps on going on.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: My mother had a little device that was really cool
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. It was called a rock tumbler.
Speaker 1: And she would take all these jagged rocks and she
Speaker 1: would throw it in this little tumbler, and then she'd
Speaker 1: put a bunch of grid in there, and she'd fill
Speaker 1: it up with the water, and she'd put it on
Speaker 1: this little roller, and the rocks would roll around for
Speaker 1: about two weeks, and then he'd come back two weeks later,
Speaker 1: and all the rocks were polished. Well, let's I.
Speaker 3: Oh you there, I seem to have lost your brother. Yeah,
Speaker 3: let me know, ify'a can still hear me in chat
Speaker 3: if we're disconnected or something? Are you there? Jeff? It's
Speaker 3: not its computer restarted again? He was having computer troubles.
Speaker 3: Can y'all still hear me? Though? Let me know so
Speaker 3: much information, so much information, shout out to everybody hanging
Speaker 3: out with us. In chat, Chris Gardner says, we hear you.
Speaker 3: Somebody else says, yeah, yeah, hear me. Cool cool man.
Speaker 3: So many gems in this episode, and so I'm writing
Speaker 3: down stuff. Graspers of the aura or grasper of the ara.
Speaker 3: That's an interesting term that sounds like a truth seeker song,
Speaker 3: don't it. It might be I might have to use
Speaker 3: that one. These different terms and things that you know,
Speaker 3: get brought up that everybody's different. There's some people, I
Speaker 3: mean most people listening to stuff like this, and there's
Speaker 3: one thing that they take away other people the whole
Speaker 3: time that mind's are blown. You can let your mind
Speaker 3: be blown, but try to take something away. Reading here
Speaker 3: in the chat, Marque says, my mind is blown away.
Speaker 3: That's what I just said. Synchronicity. Synchronicity is are always
Speaker 3: up with the chat. But you can let your mind
Speaker 3: be blown, or you can grab something and take it.
Speaker 3: Grab something and take it like whatever it is, because
Speaker 3: there's a lot take one thing. If you're a og
Speaker 3: like the homie Chris Garner and Chat, you'll take a
Speaker 3: bunch of things and apply it. You'll take a bunch
Speaker 3: of things and break it open like a fortune cookie.
Speaker 3: And get the fortune out of it. You'll look at
Speaker 3: a little bit closer, but just take one thing, almost
Speaker 3: like a lucid dream, you know, almost like a deep
Speaker 3: state of meditation with the higher self. Like so much
Speaker 3: stuff is coming at you, ayahuasca trip, you know, peyote,
Speaker 3: you know psilocybin. You know, you can just keep name
Speaker 3: in medicines. There's so much stuff that comes. And it's
Speaker 3: a cool experience because you come back like what the
Speaker 3: heck was that? Literally, what the hell? What's going on?
Speaker 3: What is this? But if you can take one thing
Speaker 3: out of that dream, if you can take one thing
Speaker 3: out of that astral projection, that sacred plant journey, one
Speaker 3: thing and apply it to your life, Listen, you and
Speaker 3: og because I think the more that you do it,
Speaker 3: you get better at taking more things. But you know,
Speaker 3: even with we're saying, what the heck is this, just
Speaker 3: looking at these tithes that that whole thing is manna.
Speaker 3: That's what the word man means in the Bible.
Speaker 1: What is this?
Speaker 3: What the heck is this? There's this stuff that we're
Speaker 3: being fed, these wafers of whatever this is. I don't
Speaker 3: know what it is? What is this? Every morning it
Speaker 3: was manna. But one of the rules of mana you
Speaker 3: don't know what it is, but one of the rules
Speaker 3: is that you can only take as much for that day.
Speaker 3: You only could take as much as you need it
Speaker 3: for the day, because every day you had to keep
Speaker 3: coming back to eat of the bread of life, if
Speaker 3: you will. And so again in the dream states in
Speaker 3: a podcast and information and dialect and wisdom and knowledge
Speaker 3: and all of this stuff. What is this? What are
Speaker 3: you talking about? How many times are there concepts that
Speaker 3: you've heard many times over many time and time again,
Speaker 3: but it just didn't click. It didn't click until it
Speaker 3: all clicked, until it made sense until like even for me,
Speaker 3: what I do. There's a lot of people who would
Speaker 3: tune into something like this and they make fun, like
Speaker 3: from the religious perspective, they make fun of it or whatever,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah, until hey, man, I need to
Speaker 3: talk to you. Man this I'm experiencing some things that
Speaker 3: I don't know who to talk to. Hey, glad you
Speaker 3: uh glad, you hit me up. You know, to make
Speaker 3: sense of what it is, to understand what it is.
Speaker 3: But if you don't ask the questions, you'll never receive
Speaker 3: the answers, and so to be one that just kicks
Speaker 3: out all new information that comes to you. That's a
Speaker 3: form of cognitive dissonance, thinking that you have it all
Speaker 3: figured out. You know, we don't in it, and it's here,
Speaker 3: a little there, a little for I mean, this is
Speaker 3: so even I, you know, if I could, if even me,
Speaker 3: as you know, the one who's leading this conversationation or
Speaker 3: leading this podcast, anyway of just to take one of
Speaker 3: those things. And I wrote down many you might you
Speaker 3: might hear a song titled Graspers of the Aura. I
Speaker 3: just think that's a I never heard that term. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna look it up. I'm gonna look into it. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna read on it, see what it is. And I'm
Speaker 3: articulated because it's something that stood out to me. Put
Speaker 3: it in a song, you know what I'm saying, teach it.
Speaker 3: But there's so much of the magnus of storm storm Melos.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look it up. Not I'm sorry, not magic magnets,
Speaker 3: the magnets of Stormos. I'm looking it up, screwtape letters.
Speaker 3: I'm looking it up. Even though I've heard that so
Speaker 3: many times, but I've never it's kind of it's kind
Speaker 3: of appalling that I haven't read that yet because it's
Speaker 3: definitely one of the mystical writings that for many it's
Speaker 3: it's like a it's like an elementary writing many people.
Speaker 3: I think books like that have gotten people into mysticism.
Speaker 3: Books like that have gotten people into spirituality and asking
Speaker 3: the bigger questions because it's something that resonates for them.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, me paying it forward in a
Speaker 3: plug my book, spirit Realm has been something that ties
Speaker 3: a lot of loose ends and then it leaves people
Speaker 3: even with a lot more more questions when it comes
Speaker 3: to things like that. But it's about fostering too and
Speaker 3: catering to that desire within you to want to know,
Speaker 3: to ignite that flame that when to fan the flame
Speaker 3: within you, as the Bible says. And so there's many
Speaker 3: different things that we do that. And that's one of
Speaker 3: the things that I tell people. They're like, look, I
Speaker 3: want to be spiritual, I want to I want to learn,
Speaker 3: I want to grow deeper. Like what do I do?
Speaker 3: And I'm just a simple formula meditate, read spiritual material,
Speaker 3: and listen to spiritual music. And you know, I do
Speaker 3: all of those things and I teach all of those things,
Speaker 3: and I lead those things. But that's what helps you
Speaker 3: stir up the awe and wonder. And I think that
Speaker 3: our spirituality and all of these materials and the sepher
Speaker 3: Wrath and all of these things stirs up intrigue. It's
Speaker 3: not to be lost in any of those things. It's
Speaker 3: not to be confused in any of those things, but
Speaker 3: just taking what you need for the day, because it's like,
Speaker 3: what is this You don't understand. It's the manner take
Speaker 3: what you need for today.
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 3: There's something in a podcast like this again two and
Speaker 3: a half hours now that we've been talking about so much,
Speaker 3: that there's something that that you can apply. And again
Speaker 3: for many of you, there's multiple things that you can
Speaker 3: fly apply and Chris Garner and Chat says too many
Speaker 3: things sometimes so so it's Dave Vulkner, shout out to Dave,
Speaker 3: love you, bro to you. When Chat he says, uh
Speaker 3: Magnuson of stormolos m A g n U s O
Speaker 3: n Magnuson of s t r O v O l
Speaker 3: O s strovlos. So you know, books, reading, meditating, praying,
Speaker 3: listening to music. When I say meditating, that's like really,
Speaker 3: you know, that's a spending time in that secret, quiet
Speaker 3: place with God and with the Holy Spirit and things,
Speaker 3: and so walking in the spirit as the Bible talks about,
Speaker 3: includes all of that stuff. Stirring up yourself, singing spiritual
Speaker 3: songs as the Bible talks about, all of that stuff
Speaker 3: comes into play if you're wanting to go deeper, if
Speaker 3: you wanting to know even where to start. It's simple,
Speaker 3: it's just doing life. It's part of your daily life.
Speaker 3: But again, all of that stuff in the midst of
Speaker 3: simplicity of seeing the beauty and the blueprint, seeing the
Speaker 3: beauty in all things, even in the bad things, even
Speaker 3: in these times you feel like a victim or you
Speaker 3: feel like you're confused, look, find beauty in it, appreciate it,
Speaker 3: because it's not until you're in a state of confusion
Speaker 3: that you're going to ask for the answers. You're not
Speaker 3: going to seek the truth, You're not going to ask
Speaker 3: the the you know what I'm saying, the bigger questions,
Speaker 3: until you're in a state of confusion. You as a
Speaker 3: member in the churches that tell us that the Bible
Speaker 3: says God is not the author of confusion. So any
Speaker 3: time and people would use that as a cop out.
Speaker 3: There would come to a Bible study or a place
Speaker 3: or listen to a teacher and they would get confused
Speaker 3: just because they didn't understand it. And then they would
Speaker 3: negate that teacher and say, hey, God's not the author
Speaker 3: of confusion, and I'm confused, so this person isn't of God.
Speaker 3: Really strange that they would do that, but they did.
Speaker 3: And h But now I see again, confusion is a
Speaker 3: good thing. God uses confusion. He may not be the author.
Speaker 3: He ain't the one that comes down from the throne
Speaker 3: of Heaven and confuses you. I think that even in
Speaker 3: this hierarchy of angels, there are other beings and angels
Speaker 3: that are here to send you for a whirlwind.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: That's what they do, That's what they were created to do.
Speaker 3: So no, God is not the author of that. But
Speaker 3: it all is an expression. It comes back to the
Speaker 3: one that's over it all. But until you're in that
Speaker 3: state of confusion and chaos are you're not gonna seek order,
Speaker 3: You're not gonna seek truth. And until you're in the
Speaker 3: midst of the darkness, you're not gonna appreciate the light
Speaker 3: you live in the light. You dwell in the light.
Speaker 3: That's all you do is in the light. You're out
Speaker 3: of touch, religious folks, You're out of touch with humanity.
Speaker 3: You're out of touch with the crack addict, out of
Speaker 3: touch with the drug dealer, the drug addict, the porn addict.
Speaker 3: You out of touch. You're just in the light. You
Speaker 3: have no conception of the gradients that exists within on
Speaker 3: the spectrum of spirituality, of life in the dance. That
Speaker 3: you're so heavenly minded, that you're no earthly good, and
Speaker 3: we got to be careful of that. I try to,
Speaker 3: and even there's a part of me that's out of touch,
Speaker 3: and I have to continually remind myself. I forgot how
Speaker 3: it is to be addicted to dope. I forgot how
Speaker 3: it is to be, you know, tormented by evil spirits.
Speaker 3: But I remind myself of it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I try to remember because other people are still there
Speaker 3: and I want to have a compassion. I want to
Speaker 3: be able to help those people. But many people, you're
Speaker 3: so busy in the light. You don't give a damn
Speaker 3: because everything going good for you. Your blessings and your
Speaker 3: your finances are blessed. Everything's a blessing, you know, And
Speaker 3: so there is no there's no compassion. Even if there
Speaker 3: is a compassion, there's no way to articulate it. There's
Speaker 3: no uh know how to to step down and and
Speaker 3: and be real with people and use spirituality in practical way.
Speaker 3: It's all of this deep mysticism and astrology and stuff
Speaker 3: that seems so crazy. But to take all of that
Speaker 3: stuff and and and bring it into the simplicity of
Speaker 3: an everyday life. Hold on to you simplicity, people. There
Speaker 3: are beings and spirits that want to take that from you.
Speaker 3: And so that's what I'm here to do. I'm here
Speaker 3: to help you get lost within the mystery, but found
Speaker 3: within the simplicity. That's what it's about. It's this great
Speaker 3: song and dance. And you can either be a victim
Speaker 3: or a victor. But I think balance is key. If
Speaker 3: balance is key, listen, listen, I ain't gonna lead you wrong, man,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you. I'm just gonna let you know
Speaker 3: what worked for me. I'm gonna tell you what worked
Speaker 3: for me and uh and hopefully it'll work for you.
Speaker 3: And I want you to do the same. Let me
Speaker 3: know what works for you. You know, I think that's
Speaker 3: what this podcast exists out of. And there's there's dues
Speaker 3: and don'ts listen. It's what it's about. Somebody speaking of that.
Speaker 3: Somebody in Chattle while ago was talking about wrestling with
Speaker 3: uh with demons or aliens or entities in the middle
Speaker 3: of the night, and they want help, They need help
Speaker 3: navigating through that. We definitely can pray, but it's a
Speaker 3: little bit about walking it out.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Praying and rebuking something like that is one thing, but
Speaker 3: being able to walk it out, being in a community
Speaker 3: of like minded people, being in a place where you
Speaker 3: shut those doors to whatever's opening doors to that, to
Speaker 3: those things. I really do believe that. So whatever it is,
Speaker 3: you want to shut the doors and you want to
Speaker 3: make sure that you walk out victory. So I can pray.
Speaker 3: I will pray. I do have some resources on my
Speaker 3: website too that you can check out that help you
Speaker 3: walk in victory. I have I actually have meditations and
Speaker 3: prayers that you can put on that a lot of
Speaker 3: people listen to about spiritual warfare, My Encountering Jesus Meditation.
Speaker 3: It's free if you go to the website. You can
Speaker 3: get it for free if you sign up for the
Speaker 3: email list. It'll go straight to your inbox. But I
Speaker 3: think that the testimonies and things that I'm getting back
Speaker 3: from people who listen to those meditations and who sit
Speaker 3: in them to find a tremendous, tremendous healing and and
Speaker 3: and and being refreshed. So I do have resources available
Speaker 3: for you to walk this stuff out and to understand
Speaker 3: what you're going through and how to walk in and
Speaker 3: freedom in those areas. And so also have our School
Speaker 3: of the Mystics. It's every Thursday night you have and
Speaker 3: we have discord like you can get direct access to
Speaker 3: me throughout the day. I'm on it the majority of
Speaker 3: the time I'm doing work. I have it pulled up.
Speaker 3: So that's the way you can get access to me.
Speaker 3: You have to be a patron, a supporter. It's only
Speaker 3: a dollar. It for a dollar, so but if you
Speaker 3: can't afford a dollar, there's other free things that you
Speaker 3: can download at your disposal as well to help you
Speaker 3: navigate and try to make sense of what's going on.
Speaker 3: So that's the least that I can do. And so
Speaker 3: Ali says in chat, I encourage everyone to do the meditation.
Speaker 3: I listened to them often. Thank you Ali. One of
Speaker 3: the most popular videos on my channel is my h
Speaker 3: what is it a spiritual warfare? Meditation? And what it is?
Speaker 3: It's an affirmation, It's it's reading scriptures over you like
Speaker 3: there's power in that. You know, I wanted that's when
Speaker 3: they I want to talk to him about as well.
Speaker 3: It's reading the Psalms and he talk about how magical
Speaker 3: the Bible is and taking the passages apart. Listen, just
Speaker 3: reading the Bible out loud, especially the Psalms. It releases things,
Speaker 3: it shuts doors like there is power in that. Man.
Speaker 3: So with a lot of those meditations and affirmations, they're
Speaker 3: just me reciting scriptures that helped me out of a
Speaker 3: hard time in my life, that are magical, that have
Speaker 3: the ability to open and closed doors that we've opened
Speaker 3: knowingly or unknowingly. So there's so much to it. A
Speaker 3: lot of those resources are free. I'm and uh there's
Speaker 3: other stuff too. I'm available for one on one consultations
Speaker 3: and guided meditations and spirit journeys and whatever you want
Speaker 3: to do. I'm available for those things as well. So
Speaker 3: definitely check out the website for sure. But there's a
Speaker 3: bunch of free stuff on put that out there as well.
Speaker 3: One thing he said too, and I threw it up
Speaker 3: on the screen for those of you watching. But he
Speaker 3: mentioned it's so much man, you know. But he mentioned
Speaker 3: that Ken and Ryhu or something like that, Ken and
Speaker 3: ry who were like these two dualities of the moons
Speaker 3: or something. I don't know, guys, y'all. I'll do a
Speaker 3: bad job of explaining a lot of this stuff. I
Speaker 3: just try my best, But my mind immediately went to
Speaker 3: Ken and Ryu or the two dualities in these two
Speaker 3: enemies in uh street fighter in street fighter that you know,
Speaker 3: and understanding where these names and terms terms come from.
Speaker 3: It all comes from astrology, man, like, that's where we
Speaker 3: come from out there. It's when heaven touches earth. Our
Speaker 3: souls are from heaven. We're etheric, but we're made out
Speaker 3: of the dust of the earth. So it's with the
Speaker 3: it's it's the polarities that exist within the hearts and
Speaker 3: souls of men. And understanding that it's not a bad thing.
Speaker 3: The duality is not bad. But don't get lost in it.
Speaker 3: Don't get lost within the duality. Don't find yourself fighting yourself.
Speaker 3: Being at one and understanding the energies, understanding your your
Speaker 3: likes and your dislikes and your distaste and the things
Speaker 3: that God has put within you are different from other people.
Speaker 3: But understanding responding with love and universal law and all
Speaker 3: of those things. That's for everybody. So take that embodyment embody.
Speaker 3: It is the embodiment of all the religions of Jesus
Speaker 3: and all of those texts. Respond with love. Man. With that,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, peace, y'all. We got some more stuff
Speaker 3: I like to share, but we're almost at two hours
Speaker 3: and thirty six minutes at this point. Shout out man,
Speaker 3: Thank you guys for believing in the work. Everybody for
Speaker 3: supporting on whatever level or platform that you do. So
Speaker 3: if you're just sharing out my material, if you're just
Speaker 3: hanging out in the chat with us, making these live
Speaker 3: streams fun, if you're listening on the podcast apps, and
Speaker 3: you know that's definitely where the biggest audience is. May
Speaker 3: shout out to everybody, no matter what you're doing and
Speaker 3: what you're bringing to the table. If you're praying for
Speaker 3: me and my family, if you're supporting financially, no matter
Speaker 3: no matter what you're doing, I appreciate everyone equally, you know,
Speaker 3: And so I'll just say thank you for that, and
Speaker 3: I'm just excited about the future we have. Speaking of
Speaker 3: the future, we have the Men's Retreat coming up. Only
Speaker 3: got four beds left, guys. If you want to get
Speaker 3: lost in the woods and go on a spirit journey
Speaker 3: with me and really just connect, I have a Men's Retreat.
Speaker 3: We have four tickets left for anybody who is interested
Speaker 3: in that. It's going to be August fifteenth. Tickets are
Speaker 3: at truthseca dot com also too. I want to just
Speaker 3: let people know too, because some people want to know
Speaker 3: what's coming up and I'm booked out, man. I think
Speaker 3: I got like I may have fifteen sixteen episodes booked
Speaker 3: back to back right now with guests and stuff. So
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get these guests on my website so
Speaker 3: you can actually go to the site and see some
Speaker 3: of the upcoming guests that I have now. So if
Speaker 3: you go to truthseeca dot com or just click on
Speaker 3: any of the posts, I think you'll be able to
Speaker 3: see the schedule and some of the next ones that
Speaker 3: I have coming up. I got Chris Carter book back
Speaker 3: on here talking to head about coming on head from corn.
Speaker 3: He's supposed to be on here as soon as I
Speaker 3: have dates for everybody, I'm going to try to put
Speaker 3: them on there. It's a lot of work. I got
Speaker 3: to sit down and put images up and fix the
Speaker 3: dates and it's a lot of work. So also looking
Speaker 3: for people to help again. Still need people to make
Speaker 3: snippets from my podcast and uh, you know, help help
Speaker 3: me get the word out about what I'm doing. If
Speaker 3: you have any interesting or exciting ways that that that
Speaker 3: that you can help, things that you're good at, you
Speaker 3: know how you know your way around a computer. You
Speaker 3: got some extra time and you want to pay it
Speaker 3: forward if you whatever it is, man, let me know
Speaker 3: because I do need help doing some of this it
Speaker 3: stuff and I always put that out there and every
Speaker 3: time I do, people come through. So thanks everybody for
Speaker 3: doing that. But hit me up if you want to help.
Speaker 3: It's pretty easy to do that. Hit me up. Thank
Speaker 3: you guys. We'll do it again. Chris Garner says, happy
Speaker 3: belated birthday to spirit Wolf. For sure, my wife's birthday
Speaker 3: was yesterday. We had a blast. Our anniversary was the
Speaker 3: twenty third. We went on a short short vacation celebrating
Speaker 3: her birthday and our anniversary, and so we're back now
Speaker 3: in the swing of things, ready to get it moving.
Speaker 3: I'm toying with the idea to just try it out.
Speaker 3: Let me know if you think it'll be good in
Speaker 3: the in the show notes and the comment section, discord
Speaker 3: wherever you are, let me know if you think this
Speaker 3: will be cool. Thinking about doing a test run of
Speaker 3: doing like a five day stream every day for a week,
Speaker 3: just to see how it goes, See if the algorithms
Speaker 3: help it, see if people hang out. You know, I
Speaker 3: don't know if there could be too much content for me. Again,
Speaker 3: that's probably why I need some help too on the
Speaker 3: social media side, because I'm putting out the content, but
Speaker 3: I feel like it doesn't get promoted the right way.
Speaker 3: Like it's almost a full time job to promote and
Speaker 3: share these episodes and get new ears and new listeners
Speaker 3: and so especially when the algorithms are working against you.
Speaker 3: So I need people for that. But thinking about it,
Speaker 3: I mean, I would hate to through a whole week
Speaker 3: of interviews and then nobody. I don't really spend the
Speaker 3: time promoting this episode because this episode was really really cool,
Speaker 3: and all of the three hundred and thirty episodes that
Speaker 3: I have, which as far as I'm concerned, all of
Speaker 3: over cool his gems in every single one of them.
Speaker 3: So let me know, guys, give me some feedback, let
Speaker 3: me know in chat, let me know how you can help,
Speaker 3: if you want to help, whatever it is, Love you, guys,
Speaker 3: and I would do it again very soon. Peace piece. Wow.
Speaker 3: So the Throne Room Meditation, man, this was just like
Speaker 3: a new level for me of creating encounter. Really, the
Speaker 3: process behind it is going in for myself, having an
Speaker 3: encounter with the Lord, tapping into the spirit and getting
Speaker 3: in his presence and really just petitioning the Father's heart
Speaker 3: and saying, God, would you say, commercially, if I'm bringing
Speaker 3: these people with me here, if they're doing this guided meditation,
Speaker 3: we're going through this journey, we're having fun, we're seeing things,
Speaker 3: we're experiencing new feelings and emotions and sensations, what would
Speaker 3: you say to him? So it's channeling the Father's heart
Speaker 3: and relating it back to the people. So, man, it's
Speaker 3: just a beautiful encounter. And I remember when I wrote
Speaker 3: the first one, I was so excited about it and
Speaker 3: it was just God speaking to my heart. I was
Speaker 3: able to channel the Father's heart and I would read
Speaker 3: the script to people because I was just so excited
Speaker 3: while I was working on it, and every time that
Speaker 3: I would just read the script the presence of God
Speaker 3: would just invade me and I just burst into tears
Speaker 3: and I couldn't even read it. I'm just like, let
Speaker 3: me copy and paste it and send it to you.
Speaker 3: But every time I listen to it, I'm immediately translated
Speaker 3: back into the throne room of God and everything's good there.
Speaker 3: That's the place where everything is okay. Where in the
Speaker 3: scriptures it says that we are to hide under the
Speaker 3: shadow of the Almighty. This is the throne room of God.
Speaker 3: This is the place that we can encounter for ourselves,
Speaker 3: but this is also a place in which we dwell,
Speaker 3: so a part of us is always there and we
Speaker 3: have access to that. Now. There's people who have never
Speaker 3: encountered this before in their life, and it's a totally
Speaker 3: new experience for them. And almost every time I get
Speaker 3: a testimony back from someone, they just say how God
Speaker 3: wrecked their lives, that they didn't know what they were
Speaker 3: getting into. The next thing they know, They're in the
Speaker 3: presence of God, wrapped up in his glory. He's communicating
Speaker 3: his love to them, and it just totally wrecks their lives,
Speaker 3: so make sure you check out the Throne Room guided
Speaker 3: meditation visualization that I brought to the table.