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we're gonna go ahead and jump into today's discussion. My

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guest today is the man himself, Jeff Harman. Jeff, Welcome

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to the Truth to Cold podcast. Man, how are you?

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I'm doing good? Having a video with a video issue here.

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Why can't hear you, Jeff, you're pretty low. Jeff, Jeff,

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you're there, man, hear me now, No, it still sounds

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like you're far away. What to say here? We just

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had a computer. Let's see. I don't see your video

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hang on where.

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Speaker 3: All right? Okay, I hear you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now you can hear me.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if we can get the video back here. Now,

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the video is not coming in. What happened is the

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have to do it just with audio. Okay, am I

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way it is. It's real life. Yeah, what's going on? Brother?

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Speaker 3: Do you work in radio?

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Speaker 1: Do I work in radio? I do a lot of radio.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got the perfect voice. I know. I was

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on your website and seeing some of the different media

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appearances that you've been on in you definitely have a

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wide range and list of some amazing shows that you've

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been on, and so you definitely are no stranger to

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the podcast in radio world though, right.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, Yeah, it's been a lot of fun, good stuff.

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stuff that you bring to the table, it's a little

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bit of everything. It's a little bit of everything that

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we talk about on the show. So I'd like to

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cover at all. You was talking about where we can start.

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What's a good place to tackle. I think astrology it

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seems to be one of your strong points, and wondering

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if maybe we can talk about that from a beginner's

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standpoint for somebody who was just totally green to astrology

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and how it affects our lives and things like that.

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I was actually a skeptic of astrology. It was in

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the mid seventies. I had just gotten my driver's license.

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I'm dating myself here, and my mother was very accurate

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at describing issues with girlfriends to the point to where

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way past mother's intuition. And she said, well, I've got

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their charts. I said, well, what do you mean you

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have their charts. She says, well, I'm doing their astrology.

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doesn't work right. And I've always been into mystics's since

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a young child, but I never knew that astrology could really,

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you know, interact with the real world. And she said,

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she kind of laughed, and she said, well before you

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debunk it, try it. And that's when I started studying it.

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most young guys are. You know, it's motorcycles and horses.

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into many mystical experiences that I had when I was

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in that area, and my mother had said to me,

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guinea pig that died in a cage, and I was

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read voraciously many many books and studied many many things.

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of varied types. I got to work with Mother Teresa

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of Calcutta in the early early eighties, I think it

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was seventy nine or eighty, right when she had won

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the Nobel Peace Prize. I actually was on my company.

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a series of different things with a lot of theologians

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from Rome's and I've done a lot of things with

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rabbinical texts and studying and recording people through the studio,

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it's really something that found me, particularly in the nineties.

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I found that when I got into vedic astrology and

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some of the more ancient Egyptian astrologies in the late

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eighties and early nineties is when it really started taking

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off for me. And I've really never advertised or pushed

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or written any books yet, and it just I'm kind

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of amazed. I have clients from all over the world

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and business clients, and I do a lot of different

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I have clients in the government and military and business,

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and a lot of personal readings. And I think where

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it all ends up for me is everyone seeking, Like

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I like the name of your show, Truthsick, We're all

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seeking to find out who the heck we are. I

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think vedic astrology is one area that really helps explain

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who we are as souls having a physical experience, And

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to me, I think that's something we're all, you know,

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either actively or somehow subconsciously seeking because you know, there's

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a challenging place to be, but it's also an amazing

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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, uh man, I you know appreciate those

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genesis stories man of where like tracing it back to

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where it started. And usually you know, someone when you

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were a child, I had some type of supernatural, otherworldly experience,

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and for me, I trace everything back to my childhood

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and this seed was planned, something was birthed in me

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when I, you know, was four or five years old.

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shadow beings and things like that, it just I think

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it opens you up to ask ask the bigger questions,

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and so you do, do you trace everything back to

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that first experience.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had a lot of experiences. A lot of

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people would say they're UFOs or I've had a lot

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of experiences with demons and spirits and angels, and it's

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been pretty wild stuff. And that really got me into

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studying that stuff, particularly in the eighties, and I don't

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think anyone can ever stop studying that stuff. It's very humbling.

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very instructive was the Kabbalistic models, the very ancient ones.

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of the ancient Hebrew texts are very informaive, like the

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believe that it came from Adam and the whole genesis story,

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like you were saying, and it really ancient astrology is

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so much I think richer than modern astrology. And I

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don't mean to bash modern astrology. Most people know their

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sun signs right, but in vadic astrology, you're likely not

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to be the sun sign that you were in tropical astrology.

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in vadic astrology, it's using a sidereal zodiac. And if

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I may here, I'll just show you if you can

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allow me to do screen sharing, I could actually put

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something on the screen here. That's kind of interesting. This

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I have, you know, clients all over the world that

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I'm able to share things with. And there's a model

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where our solar system is going around the central Sun.

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It's known as the procession of the equinoxes. It happens

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about every twenty six thousand years, is about twenty five

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thousand and seven hundred and something years. No one's completely

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in agreement, and yeah, you just allow me to share it.

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That's perfect. So what you'll see here, and probably the

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you will, in glyph form, this is the sun alti Pluto,

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and you can see this is the central Sun. Well,

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we go around that every twenty five thousands have earned

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something years and NASA has corobrated that. It's actually they say,

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we're doing almost a half of a billion miles an

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hour around it, so fast so that the planets are

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spiraling well. In Vedic astrology they use this outer wheel

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experience and you could see the soul force energy leaving

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death to rebirth, and of course on and on and

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on over the hills. And the real name of Ata

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castrology is actually called Joe Tisha, which means that's a

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of the soul. And I have to say it really,

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it really is. It's very amazing because all of us

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are here by the premise of ada astrology, purifying and

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rectifying the soul. And when I got into that branch

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of astrology, it really changed my viewpoint and it made

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me say, wow, we really are spiritual beings having this

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physical experience. Well, one of my favorite diagrams to show

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is this one. No matter which your religious faith is,

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everyone believes, well, let's hope, everyone believes that there's a

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God right and God is a course above all creation,

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and it is believed that our souls are created right

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about here. And there's no astrology up here. This is

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called this is an Aramaic or Hebrew word called absolute,

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which means divinity. And they say there's forty nine dimensions

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in forty nine subdimensions. And we've all heard of the seraphims,

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the cherubims, the thrones, and the ore fantoms that surround

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the throne of God. Beneath that there's briah, which is

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an Aramaic word or Hebrew word that means actually creation.

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nine dimensions in forty nine dimensions here. And of course

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these are the classes of angels that are believed to

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rule this. It's way down here in what they call

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the yetserratic worlds or the world of Yetsira, and that

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is where the rotating galaxies are and the the you know,

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the planets, and all the black holes and all the

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physical stuff physics refers to. And that's and they say

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there could be forty nine parallel dimensions in the universe

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and forty nine subdimensions in each one, which is almost

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incomprehensible when you think about that, and our Milky Way

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just as a little picture of that may be way

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way down here, and of course our solar systems on

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the edge of it, and the last worlds is a

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saya is the astral planes. It is the place of

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demons and spirits and goats, ghosts, and of course that's

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where assayah means action. This is where the spiritual action

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really intermixes to the earth. And of course we've all

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heard of the fallen demons. A lot of people say

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it's just the devil, Well, it's actually Lucid for Satan

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Blilah Leviathan, And I think what I like about a

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model like this is. You know, even though different cultures

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do this differently, Like if you get into Vedantic or

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Tibetan or many other models, they're similar, different names, but similar.

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our souls are created up here, we're certainly not our astrology.

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of the karmic energies of our astrology. And that's kind

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of why in this plate it shows the psyche spirit

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and souls kind of spiritual dna reincarnating over and over

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and over again until we purify and rectify the blemishes

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in the soul. And that's the philosophy. And I actually

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think that that is correct. I mean, look at the planet.

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There's so many things going on here. It's constant war

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and division and all that, and yet it's so many

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wonderful things going on on this planet, you know.

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Speaker 3: Man, very interesting. I know that astrology is the way

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to go. I know that it's telling our stories. It's

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telling the story that we're that we're journeying on collectively

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and individually spiritually. It's playing out in the stars and

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those things, and so I know that we everyone should

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should at least look into it to some degree. When

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I look at the Vedic stuff versus you know, classical

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or whatever, what we have now, it actually looks like

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a whole bunch of gebras. It's really hard for me.

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I don't know where to start. It can't be Yes, yeah,

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it looks it looks intimidating, I'll say that is it

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it hard? Is it hard? Do you have to be

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a master? Do you really have to give your life

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over to it? Or is it something that anyone can

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pay up and just with a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I think anyone could pick it up. The key is,

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like anything, to be good at anything, you have to

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have the dedication to learn. The biggest issue with Veda

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astrology or Joe Tishyae is there's many branches of it,

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and I think the nomenclature is the hardest thing because

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you're dealing with a very ancient, ancient science that comes

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from that. There's many people who believe it could be

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an ancient form of Tamil. Then it migrated into Sanskrit,

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then it's now blended with Hindi, so you're dealing with

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an ancient culture. We have to transpose all these terminologies

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into English to just comprehend it. It's vast there's many branches.

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There's maharishi Parashara, which was probably the main most people

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studying Veda astrology would study parashaar' that's the main one.

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Then there's Maharishi Jaimini, there's Tajika, there's Prashana. Prashna is divinational.

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It literally is answering question. And then you have Maherta,

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which is electional astrology picking times to get married, picking

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times to take a trip, or picking times to you know,

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commence an event. And that's called electional astrology in the West.

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So yeah, it's a whole other world, it really is.

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And I started BC before computers, and I always like

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to tell the story. I had one teacher he's now gone,

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amazing guy, and what happened. He said, Jeff, you must

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always cast chart by hand. So we would draw the

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charts out, you know, and color in all the planets

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from the what they call it ephemeris or ponchanga. And

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he says, see, now you get the feel of this.

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like somewhere around ninety seven to ninety nine, I came

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in with the first Vedic astrology program on a laptop

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and he's got like, oh my god. He goes, that

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is so fast. He said, that's amazing. He says, I

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want to copy. I said no, no, no, grasshopper, just

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to always cast start by hand, and he started laughing.

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He goes, no, no, I want to I want to copy.

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I says, yes, you do. So computers have really revolutionized astrology,

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and it's wonderful because people studying it they get these

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programs and they're just daunted. They're like, oh my god,

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what do I do? All these different terms and things

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that you can do. And the problem with astrology programs

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is you have to set them up appropriately. There's so

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many different settings and once you get them right, very

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very amazing tool to have because you can I can

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calculate things now in seconds that used to take me

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literally forty five minutes.

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Speaker 3: Can you use all of them? All of what the

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different modes of astrology, like the like the classical ones

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that we have now versus some of the different the

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Vedic or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I do. My main core go to systems are location astrology,

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which I find absolutely amazing. Location astrology is extrapolating your

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here I'll show you people can actually see it. It's

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kind of nice to see the visual on this, so

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you can see here, I'm going to start a program,

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and this is one that I use a lot, and

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you can see here. This is literally a map that'll

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come up here and you can look anywhere in the

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world now, of course I'm looking at the US right now,

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and you could see you could see like any planet

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with mc rule's career, relationships are affected by the DS nomenclature.

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which is different for every individual. Every single person has

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their own unique footprint of energy based on the time

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they were brought in. And what's fascinating about that is

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you also have latitude crossings and then last but not least,

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you have transits. It's very complex, like you can actually

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see if I am make this, I'm going in monthly increments.

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So as planets retrograde and go direct across the globe

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depending on where one lives, it drastically affects the energies

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coming in. And you also have what we call progressions too,

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which is synonymous with prashna. Interrogation means literally asking a

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question for instance. You know, I get this all the

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time where people are in various situations and they'll say,

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you know, is this relationship going to work out? Or

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where's my cat? Or you know, is my mother's health

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going to be okay? You can ask all kinds of questions,

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and you know, I can't give anyone medical or legal advice,

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but you can certainly get some really good insights into

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the probability of which way something is going to go.

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And that again, many people today call that horrorary. Horrorary

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is a Latinized word that means interrogation or questions, and

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I never liked that word, so I always call it interrogation,

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which is actually a hand me down from a very

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ancient astrologer named Rabbi ibn Isra, which I like a lot,

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and he kind of coined that phrase in the eleven hundreds.

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and he would work with generals in the king or

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the queen on many many different things. Also, electional times

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were used to pick times for coronations, laying foundations. In fact,

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there's actually a mirror where George Washington. Fact, you can

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see it right there.

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Speaker 3: That was it.

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Speaker 1: I just blew by it. Here there's a mirror where

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George Washington had laid the foundation in the United States

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Capital a very specific time. Where is it? I keep

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blowing by it here there.

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Speaker 3: It is right there.

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Speaker 1: So they actually laid the cornerstone of the capital at

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a very auspicious time. You can see he's got his

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Masonic apron on there and interesting stuff. So, you know,

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Benjamin Franklin, one of the fore founders or you could

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say founding framers, was adamant about using electional astrology. I

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find free will has to be in there that you know.

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I don't think people should live their life by astrology,

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but I think it's it's a very powerful tool to

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see when things can work out. And every time I

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haven't used it, I've seen disasters results in my life.

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And that's why I always go back and say, wow,

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I mean I should have used it, And it's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 3: Are these cycles the same every year or or they

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different every year?

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Speaker 1: Oh? God, this constantly changing. It's an absolute kaleidoscope of change.

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I mean, take the world right now. I have been

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you know, people years ago we're asking me. I was

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on coast to coast, got it had to be ten

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years ago or fifteen years ago. It was a long

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time ago. And several radio shows and everyone was asking me,

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what do you think of the Mayan calendar? And I

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said not much. I said, I can't come up with

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a single thing that is directly going to affect the

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world with the Mayan calendar. And of course twenty twelve

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came in. Twenty twelve went and you know, he said, well,

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when when does the astrology look like the cycles are coming?

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And you know, you mentioned Genesis and we talked a

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little bit about Enoch. Well, the ancient text in astrology

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said that God made changes to the world on Saturn

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Jupiter conjunctions, which anyone study astrology will know happens about

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every twenty years, but about every thousand years. They happened

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in very specific configurations. And on the radio shows, I said,

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the time that I would be concerned about the world

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going through transformation and change is twenty twenty. And they

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said why, I said, because we have a two hundred

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and forty year sub cycle of Saturn in Jupiter the

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last time, and that's exactly what happened this January. We

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had a Saturn plutal conjunction. Which do we have. We're

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all wearing masks. The whole country, the whole world was

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shut down, not just the country, and of course we

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had the pandemic breakout we've had. I'm kind of amazed

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at how accurate the astrology was this year. We had

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a Saturn plutal conjunction. Every time those happened, major transformations

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happened in the world. And at the end of this year,

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on the winter solstice of literally on December twenty first,

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this year, we have a two hundred and forty year

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Saturn Jupiter conjunction. And people say, well, what does that mean. Well,

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the last time we had something like that was the

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beginning of the Industrial Revolution, and we went from horses,

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you know, to literally flying through the skies and going

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to the moon and all the other things that we do.

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And look at the communications. You and I are sitting

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across the country with vivid clarity, hearing ourselves, you know,

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in excellent detail, and the world has changed, and I

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think we're going to see a high tech revolution that

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is going to be mind boggling over the next well,

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clearly in the next two hundred years, but for the

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next we're about ready to rocket forward. It's going to

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be like the Jetsons. I really think in ten twenty

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years we're going to be astounded at where we're at.

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And the astrology shows that, the cycle showing.

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Speaker 3: Did you happen to watch that latest interview with Joe

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Rogan and Elam.

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Speaker 1: No, he did not know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's there. They're trying to come up with the technology,

471
00:29:06,599 --> 00:29:08,279
which they already have it. They're just trying to implement

472
00:29:08,319 --> 00:29:10,920
it where they can put the biotips within the brains

473
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,960
and fix your body, cure Alzheimer's dementia, will be no more,

474
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,920
living longer, all types of its, allcom capabilities downloaded with

475
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,119
the new program. Far to listen to that podcast, that's intriguing.

476
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,519
It's beautiful and scary at the same time and scary.

477
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:33,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's the problem is it's a double

478
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,000
edged sword. You know we're gonna see I personally think

479
00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:39,319
it's it's very interesting.

480
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:39,519
Speaker 3: You know.

481
00:29:39,599 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into politics because a lot

482
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,960
of people love Trump a lot of people hate Trump,

483
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,039
especially here in California. If I say anything that sounds

484
00:29:47,079 --> 00:29:48,920
like I like Trump, I'm gonna get bricks thrown through

485
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,359
my window. But the bottom line is, it's very fascinating

486
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:58,359
to me what happened with Tesla. Speaking of Musk, Tesla,

487
00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:05,160
I think really cracked the dielectric secrets to the atomic

488
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:10,559
structures of physical matter. And today many people refer to

489
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,240
that as free energy cold fusion. There's many names for it.

490
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,720
And I think he had it, and I think he

491
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,920
presented that to JP Morgan and many others, and they

492
00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:22,240
quashed it. They said, wait, wait a minute, we're pumping

493
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:24,160
oil out of the ground, and you want to come

494
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,519
along with something that negates it.

495
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:26,599
Speaker 3: No way.

496
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,279
Speaker 1: And I don't think the world was ready. It's interesting

497
00:30:30,359 --> 00:30:32,839
that and why I brought up Trump is because John Trump,

498
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,480
which was Donald Trump's uncle, was in the CIA, and

499
00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:41,119
he was part of the team that confiscated all of

500
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,599
the Tesla documents, or at least probably had access to

501
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,240
many of them when Tesla passed away in the New

502
00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:53,880
York hotel. And I think there's a lot of things

503
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,680
that have been shelved that are probably going to be

504
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:04,839
introduced to society very soon. This Saturn Jupiter conjunction that's

505
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,880
happening is really truly ushering in a new age, and

506
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,960
we're going to see a lot of innovators like Elon

507
00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:14,480
Musk and many others. Can you imagine what the military

508
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,279
actually really has, I mean, think about having I know,

509
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,359
I have a couple of clients in black ops and

510
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,720
I can't say anything, but I can tell you that

511
00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:27,319
the United States is in a unique position because it

512
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,759
prints its own money and it sets the global standard

513
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,559
for the dollars. And I've heard the amount of money

514
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,160
poured into black ops. It's just staggering, and no one knows,

515
00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:42,519
you know, no one really knows what it is. And

516
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:49,039
when you have that kind of research power and resources,

517
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,240
it's got to be mind boggling. What's really there. I

518
00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:55,880
think the reason the society doesn't have it is the structures.

519
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,640
I mean, we go to a gas pump, we don't

520
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,759
realize when we run that credit card, we're paying road

521
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:04,480
taxes and so many other things in the infrastructure. So

522
00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:08,079
in order for this to happen, it's gonna take time.

523
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,839
It's going to take you know, a lot of changes

524
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,759
which I think are coming and I think that's why

525
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,279
we're seeing America and the world go through so much

526
00:32:18,599 --> 00:32:22,200
drama right now. Even the George Floyd I could I

527
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:24,839
was amazed because everybody said to me, what do you

528
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,400
think of the pandemic? Is it ever going to end?

529
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:32,880
And in vadic astrology, the Moon's north and south nodes,

530
00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:35,799
which are known as eclipse points, that's where the Sun

531
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,960
and the moon join, where they went into two very

532
00:32:39,079 --> 00:32:42,880
malific lunar mansions. And just for anyone here, this is

533
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,079
kind of cool, I'll show you this. These are known

534
00:32:46,319 --> 00:32:49,440
as the lunar mansions that surround the Earth. And I

535
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,240
always joke around with the astronomers because a lot of

536
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:55,799
astronomers laugh at astrology. They really do. They think, I'll

537
00:32:55,839 --> 00:32:58,559
come on, it's a joke. You know, the constellations don't

538
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,359
line up. Well, they're right, they don't. It's a spiritual construct. Well,

539
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,960
this is the twenty seven lunar mansions that surround the Earth.

540
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,480
And of course I just want a picture of the

541
00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:10,440
Earth here. So as the moon, which by the way,

542
00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:13,000
the moon's doing almost mock two and a half around

543
00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:18,000
the Earth, which is quite fast. The moon is they say,

544
00:33:18,039 --> 00:33:21,720
the soul passes through the body at the first breath.

545
00:33:21,839 --> 00:33:24,839
The angel ties the spirit, psyche and the soul to

546
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,559
the body at first breath in Veda castrology, and that's

547
00:33:28,599 --> 00:33:32,359
also a Kabbalistic legend too, And I absolutely believe it's true.

548
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,480
I was in the delivery room when my son was

549
00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:38,720
born and witnessed that, which was amazing. So the lunar

550
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:44,160
mansions are very sacred, and they surround the Earth. And again,

551
00:33:44,279 --> 00:33:47,799
no matter how much the astronomers polish the lenses on

552
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,319
their telescopes, they're never going to see this zodiac either,

553
00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:53,599
because it's a spiritual construct. Well why did I tell

554
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,240
you this is because this year, right when the pandemic

555
00:33:57,599 --> 00:34:02,279
broke out, in fact decisely, we had two very important

556
00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:05,839
things happen. One, we had a collis sarpa yoga that's

557
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,000
a strange term in Veda castrology. That means all the

558
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:13,000
planets were in between the Moon's north and south nodes.

559
00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:15,320
In fact, here I can actually show that to you.

560
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,719
Watch and everybody said to me, when do you think

561
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,800
this is going to start to break? And I said, right,

562
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,679
it'll start to break in April, but it'll really start

563
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,840
to break right at the end of May. Now, watch

564
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,280
this you can actually see if you look, every single

565
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,280
planet here on this wheel is in between this little

566
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,760
horseshoe and this little horseshoe. See that every planet's on

567
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,599
that side of the art. There's no planets right here.

568
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,599
That's known as a Collis sarpa yoga. And what does

569
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:48,840
that mean. Well, often they call it a serpent curse,

570
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:53,039
but they also mean that it's a very powerful karmic

571
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:57,039
time when energy is released. Well, the nodes, meaning the

572
00:34:57,159 --> 00:35:00,599
Moon's north and south nodes, were also in these malific

573
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,159
lunar mansions, and every time they get in them, there's

574
00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:07,360
some kind of a strange occurrence on the Earth. Good

575
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,159
good example, Aids broke out on this, Kennedy was killed

576
00:35:11,199 --> 00:35:13,760
on this. We had strange stuff in the fifties on that.

577
00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:18,440
I think the Hiroshima happened on that. The pandemic of

578
00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:23,159
nineteen seventeen, which would kill almost one hundred million people

579
00:35:23,559 --> 00:35:27,880
they g uestimate they documented over fifty million globally.

580
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,679
Speaker 3: Can we chart that? Like, can you go back?

581
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure you can't. Yeah. And I went back

582
00:35:33,679 --> 00:35:35,960
and looked at the plague, the Black plague, the quote

583
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,519
unquote black Peg of London was the same thing. They

584
00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:45,159
had those same conditions. So these have the nodes actually

585
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,480
go around the zodiac about meaning the moon's north and

586
00:35:48,559 --> 00:35:51,400
south node, which by the way, for anyone listening who's

587
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,960
into Vedic astrology, they called the north note of the

588
00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:58,800
moon Rahu and the south node of the moon K two,

589
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,599
and Rahu and K two are known as the serpent.

590
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,920
In fact, there's an ancient legend that when God gave

591
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:11,480
the immortal potion to the planets, this demon snuck in

592
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:18,599
and drunk the potion, and the Sun told God this

593
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,199
demon snuck it and drank it and threw a discus

594
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,719
at it and cut it in half. The head became

595
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,760
the north node, and of course the south node became

596
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,039
the south node or K two. They had to became

597
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:32,360
Rahu and k tu, and they're known as the serpent.

598
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,079
And that's because they kind of serpentine back and forth

599
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,119
around the zodiac every eighteen and a half years. So

600
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,599
what's unique is every eighteen and a half years we're

601
00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:45,039
not going to get a major pandemic, but this one

602
00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:47,920
was so severe because of the confluence of events. You

603
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,400
can actually see look at this is Pluto, that's stupid

604
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,719
or that's Saturday. They're all right together right now, and

605
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,760
watch what happens here right on May twenty seventh. Here,

606
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,760
if I go forward May twenty six, twenty seven, you

607
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,199
can see the moon shoots out past the north node.

608
00:37:04,599 --> 00:37:08,599
And right after that, literally days later, Mercury broke the

609
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:15,000
Collisarpa yoga and that's it. So and then people say, well, okay, great,

610
00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:19,719
the pandemic ended, and then the George Floyd riots broke out. Well,

611
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:23,599
notice Venus is retrograde too, So it's like we went

612
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:27,760
from one thing to the next, and the all the

613
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,480
rioting and the insanity happened right when Venus went retrograde.

614
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,719
And Venus retrograde was also synonymous with Lucifer falling or

615
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,480
the ancient cuts a quaddle mayan myth where something happens,

616
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,800
someone in power commits an atrocious act and then there's

617
00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:50,480
retribution for it. Well, it's exactly what happened. You know,

618
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,000
that video was played and everyone went crazy. And now

619
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,280
the other reason I think the unrest is going on

620
00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:01,920
is because we have the Saturn Jupiter conjunction coming in

621
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,519
and there's a lot more things. Astrology is not simple.

622
00:38:06,599 --> 00:38:11,079
We also have the United States chart see the signing

623
00:38:11,199 --> 00:38:17,280
of the Declaration of the Independence is another thing that

624
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,280
astrologers use to look at the cycles. Just like the

625
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,199
birth chart of you and me or anyone else, you

626
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,920
can look at the birthchart of the nation. And because

627
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,159
the United States is so new, it's only two hundred

628
00:38:28,159 --> 00:38:31,960
and forty something years old, we have that data. And

629
00:38:32,199 --> 00:38:35,320
there's dispute between astrologers as to which one to use,

630
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,679
but no matter which one we use, I use the Siby.

631
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,639
It's named after a mystic name, Ebenezer Sibley, and that's

632
00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:45,480
why they call it the sibly Chart. He's believed to

633
00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:49,519
have recorded the exact time they documented or worth signing it.

634
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,440
And long story short, the United States is going through

635
00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:56,840
some serious transformation here over the next two years. So

636
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,599
no matter who gets in I tell you, they're going

637
00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:04,159
to have a real situation to deal with here with

638
00:39:04,519 --> 00:39:08,519
the US going through some very powerful transits.

639
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 3: That's interesting. One of the first times that I've heard

640
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:18,119
the h I guess the moons referred to as mansions.

641
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,119
And one of the interesting inscription the Bible says, in

642
00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:26,599
my father's house are many mansions, and it's speaking about astrology.

643
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,559
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and I think it's beyond astrology. You know.

644
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,880
I mean, when you look at that model I had

645
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:39,480
spoken about before, which you talk about mansions, there's literally worlds,

646
00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:45,039
dimensions and worlds here. Yeah, just the astrol planes alone

647
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,199
are elabyrinth. I mean, if you have forty nine dimensions

648
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,440
and forty nine sub dimensions down here. This is also

649
00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:55,039
known as the pouch of the slingshot in many ancient

650
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:59,719
Egyptian and rabbinical texts. The pouch of the slingshot is

651
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,320
this astral world down here between what they call the

652
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,519
sub lunar world of the Moon and the Earth, in

653
00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:11,679
an astral sense. And many physicists are saying that this

654
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,920
is quite probable, particularly in quantum physics, where there are

655
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:23,559
multiple dimensions in the astral worlds. And again many psychics

656
00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:26,280
intuitives are very familiar with this, and this is the

657
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,519
world of the ghosts, of the demons and all that

658
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:33,559
other stuff. And I really believe that that is so.

659
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,920
And the lunar position in the physical world seems to

660
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:44,679
really coincide with something in Vedic astrology known as the

661
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,320
vim shatory dashas, which are time lords that every soul

662
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:55,440
will experience throughout their lives. I'm amazed at how accurate

663
00:40:55,519 --> 00:40:58,599
it is again, I was a skeptic of astrology. I'm like,

664
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,559
you know, I really was in to physics and electronics

665
00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:08,079
growing up, and always music. I love music, and you know,

666
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,280
I don't believe in just theory. I have to see

667
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,519
some result. And the thing with astrology is you see

668
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:19,880
concrete results in these cycles. I've seen it in my

669
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,960
own life. It's absolutely mind boggling. And the religions have

670
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:27,880
demonized it or what's the work of the devil? Well,

671
00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:31,400
that's kind of interesting because you know, talk about Rome

672
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:37,079
here for a minute, the early Roman Church. We've heard

673
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:40,880
of like the Niocene councils and many different councils that

674
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,719
had existed in Rome, and they basically took the doctrines

675
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,760
of reincarnation and threw them out the window. And they

676
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,679
are one of the few religions on the earth that

677
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,880
had done that. Almost every other culture believes in the

678
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:57,440
potential of reincarnation and after life and all of that.

679
00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:02,039
And this world here of Asaya is called the pouch

680
00:42:02,159 --> 00:42:05,639
of the slingshot and rabbinical texts, which means where souls

681
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,079
leave when they exit of course life known as death

682
00:42:09,159 --> 00:42:15,360
to us, and they will oftentimes be in these astral

683
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,599
worlds for whatever amount of time it would be. And

684
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,079
they say, the guardian Angel there's a celestial court, and

685
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,119
no one knows exactly where that is, but the celestial

686
00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:29,280
court appears to be at least with this dimension lined

687
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:35,559
up with this solar system. And what's fascinating is they

688
00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:40,800
say the angel will attach the spirit, soul and psyche

689
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,199
like an assignment to the embryo at conception, not at birth,

690
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,719
and you're not in the embryo, but you're attached to

691
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,760
it like with the silver cord analogy, and then the

692
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,199
nine lunch of gestation. You're in converse with this angel.

693
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,599
And then right when the child exits the mother's womb,

694
00:43:02,559 --> 00:43:07,000
the angel ties the spirit psyche and sold to the

695
00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:13,159
body permanently at first breath. And I never knew if

696
00:43:13,159 --> 00:43:16,599
that legend was true. It's actually anyone can see that

697
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,119
that's or read about that. That's actually in a text

698
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:24,440
called the Sepher Hagada. Sepher means book and Hebrew and

699
00:43:24,559 --> 00:43:29,800
Hagada means legends. And it's a fascinating text written by

700
00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:33,639
two rabbis out of Russia in the late eighteen hundreds,

701
00:43:34,639 --> 00:43:37,480
and there's several versions of it. But I never knew

702
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,280
if that was true until my son was born. I

703
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,960
was holding my wife's hand and I literally saw I

704
00:43:43,039 --> 00:43:45,159
didn't see any wings or shapes, but I saw two

705
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,639
spheres of light and they joined right when he cried,

706
00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:51,800
and my hair and my skin just went I just, oh,

707
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,679
my god, it's true. And I wasn't even thinking about it,

708
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,360
you know, because my wife had to go with an

709
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,239
epidural and sea section and it was of traumatic. And

710
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,079
of course I'm watching a doctor slice my wife's stomach

711
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,159
wide open, kind of graphic, and yank the baby out

712
00:44:08,199 --> 00:44:10,039
and all the blood and the fluid. So the last

713
00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:12,320
thing on my mind was angels, right, and then I

714
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,119
see that, I'm going, oh my god, you know, this

715
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:20,519
is amazing. And the energy in the room was so sacred,

716
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:26,000
it was so enlightening, and I'll never forget going around

717
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:27,760
the table.

718
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 3: They had.

719
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: They put my boy on this little table and he

720
00:44:32,559 --> 00:44:35,960
was crying and he reached I went up over him,

721
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,960
and he reached up and grabbed my thumbs and stopped

722
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,079
crying to look right at me. And they can't see,

723
00:44:40,639 --> 00:44:43,039
you know, when when they were first born. At least

724
00:44:43,079 --> 00:44:45,760
that's what they say. And that was that was the

725
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,679
most profound experience of my life. I have to say

726
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,840
that was absolutely amazing. Oh yeah, they see the guardian

727
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,159
I mean a country up. I just want to add

728
00:44:56,199 --> 00:44:59,360
this before I forget. They say that the positions of

729
00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:03,920
the plan, if you take the Hebrew letters, you can

730
00:45:04,039 --> 00:45:06,960
actually get the name of the guardian angel from the

731
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:09,079
moment in time you're born. I do that a lot

732
00:45:09,159 --> 00:45:14,360
for people on pendants with astral gemstones that I set

733
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,840
for people. You can actually get the name of your

734
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,199
guardian angel. How do you do that, Well, you take

735
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:22,320
the astrology.

736
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 3: See what you do.

737
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,119
Speaker 1: Let's just pretend this is someone's birth tard. You order

738
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,159
the twenty two airmaker Hebrew letters repeatedly around the wheel.

739
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,239
It's a mathematical task. It takes me about forty five minutes.

740
00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:39,280
And then you take each planet's position and degree and

741
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,800
you order that in what we call the Egyptian Essential Dignities.

742
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,480
And I'm not so sure they're Egyptian, but you can

743
00:45:46,519 --> 00:45:49,199
see down here this is the Egyptian Essential Dignity. So

744
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,480
you order that planet's letter that it's in in the

745
00:45:53,559 --> 00:45:57,800
Egyptian Essential Dignities. What's even more mind boggling is there's

746
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:04,079
correspondences in the numerology to the Bible, in Genesis, the

747
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:09,800
Psalms and many different Old Testament that's called the Torah,

748
00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:15,280
and also in the Psalms that numerologically relate to the Angel.

749
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,199
And I've done this for many people, and it's kind

750
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,119
of mind boggling because a lot of the phrases match

751
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,000
some of the destinies of the soul. So I always say,

752
00:46:26,039 --> 00:46:30,280
forget Trinity, Neo and Morpheus, this is the real matrix.

753
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,880
They actually say the Angel and this is this is cool.

754
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,960
I'll watch this. If you've ever seen I'm sure you've

755
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,840
seen the Tree of Life most people have. They actually

756
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:45,360
say the human form is imbued with spirit, and the

757
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,960
positions of the planets on the Tree of Life align

758
00:46:50,119 --> 00:46:54,239
with the merits of the soul as it's incarnated. And

759
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,519
then that becomes like a print. So your birth chart

760
00:46:56,599 --> 00:46:59,719
is literally like a resonant print. It's not you, it's

761
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,079
the resonant print of the journey of the soul in

762
00:47:03,159 --> 00:47:07,079
this incarnation. So when you look at transits and progressions

763
00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:11,639
and dawshes, it's completely amazing because what it does is

764
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:17,079
it shows the journey of the soul. Like primary directions

765
00:47:17,199 --> 00:47:20,280
and astrology are kind of mind boggling. I just lost

766
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,280
two really good friends. They were very young, they were

767
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,400
only in their sixties, and both died of a heart attack,

768
00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:31,000
and I was astounded at the primary directions that were

769
00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:35,320
in their charts. Both of them passed away. And you know,

770
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,679
I don't like to look at that for people. I mean,

771
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,559
most people, they kind of want to know when they're

772
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:42,320
going to check out, and I think you can alter

773
00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:46,159
that stuff. But it's pretty amazing how accuratey astrology is.

774
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,079
It really is, and I'm kind of mind blowing up

775
00:47:49,079 --> 00:47:49,280
by it.

776
00:47:51,199 --> 00:47:55,079
Speaker 3: Looking at this human experience and this journey of the

777
00:47:55,159 --> 00:47:58,159
soul that we're undergoing. Do you think that once we

778
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,119
pass do you think that we stepped into other worlds,

779
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,840
incarnate there to learn things and with different experiences as well,

780
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,000
or do we just heap coming back to this realm

781
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:10,920
and this world as we know it to be Earth.

782
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,599
Do you think there's other expressions and the missions that

783
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:17,480
we enter into and got to pass through to learn

784
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:20,079
other things? Here we learned how to love, here, we

785
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,199
learned how to overcome our fears, and you know, those

786
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,880
kind of things. And it's so much that we're learning,

787
00:48:25,159 --> 00:48:28,559
but a different existence where there's other things to learn,

788
00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:30,679
and we're incarnated differently with the same soul.

789
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: Oh. Absolutely. In fact, here's an interesting world of texts.

790
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:42,039
Let me show you this. This is a text for

791
00:48:42,159 --> 00:48:45,000
anyone that wants to This is called the share he

792
00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:48,960
Gilgam or shar ar in air mak and Hebrew means

793
00:48:49,039 --> 00:48:53,440
gat or gates, and Gilgam means cycling or recycling. So

794
00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:56,280
you can see the text is the gate of reincarnations.

795
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,960
And in this what it talks about there's a model.

796
00:49:00,199 --> 00:49:03,599
See then, the feesh is known as the lower psyche.

797
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,079
There's another analogy I can show you. See in psychology,

798
00:49:07,559 --> 00:49:11,199
this big thick dark line is kind of the demarcation

799
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,000
between what maybe a psychiatrist or psychologist would call our

800
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:19,960
conscious mind below here and our subconscious mind is above here.

801
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,719
Notice this planet, if anyone knows astrology, that is Saturn.

802
00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:28,440
Saturn is the cross over the crescent of the moon.

803
00:49:28,679 --> 00:49:31,719
In fact, all the glyphs of the planets come from

804
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:34,400
the circle, the crescent and the cross, every one of

805
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:39,280
them the sun. They see. The physicists, certain ones are

806
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:45,639
beginning to agree that the suns aren't just nuclear fission.

807
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,639
They could be and I don't know if you've heard

808
00:49:48,639 --> 00:49:51,719
of the electrical universe, but they could be an interaction

809
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,920
that's much different than they originally fought. There is other

810
00:49:57,119 --> 00:49:59,800
texts that say the reason that the stars and the

811
00:50:00,039 --> 00:50:04,159
suns are so bright is because they're shining down into

812
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,159
these lower dimensions from the upper dimensions above. We hear

813
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,960
this about ascended masters, and you know, like when Christ

814
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:14,599
let out his energy and different people let out their energy,

815
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,280
they're so bright people can't even see. Well, isn't try

816
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,639
to looking at the sun. Sometime they say the sun

817
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,960
is like a portal, if you will, to the upper realms,

818
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:27,239
and that's why it gives life and heat and vitality.

819
00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:30,320
Any scientists will tell you the sun is much more

820
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,960
than heat. We couldn't live but for seconds without the Sun.

821
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:40,599
It's putting so much energy into these lower worlds, or

822
00:50:40,599 --> 00:50:42,760
at least our lower world for sure, and the other ones.

823
00:50:43,079 --> 00:50:45,880
So the principle, and this is deep stuff To answer

824
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,239
own question, I certainly don't claim to have all the answers.

825
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,159
But they say the lower psyche is than the fesh,

826
00:50:51,679 --> 00:50:55,559
the raws is the spirit, the neshma is the lower

827
00:50:55,719 --> 00:51:00,920
portion of the soul, and incarnations on earth keep happening,

828
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,599
and how we purify and rectify the soul so that

829
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,800
we can move on to these upper worlds. And I

830
00:51:09,159 --> 00:51:14,159
to answer your question, I believe absolutely we could incarnate

831
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,599
one time. We could incarnate thousands. I certainly don't know.

832
00:51:18,199 --> 00:51:21,840
I know Vedic astrology is astounding. You can see where

833
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,360
your sole root comes from on the tree of life.

834
00:51:26,159 --> 00:51:29,199
And here I'll just cast a chart in Veda astrology

835
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,719
so people can see. Since we've got the ability to

836
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:38,400
go visual here, I'll just cast a chart here to

837
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,840
just show you what this is. One type of Vedic astrology.

838
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,960
It's the Northern Indian. You also have the Southern Indian

839
00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:49,639
charts that look like this, but either one can be used.

840
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:54,840
But again, Vedic astrology has these over here. They're known

841
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,519
as karacas. You can see what karaka means in plain

842
00:51:58,639 --> 00:52:03,639
English is indicator and ak means the Atma kark which

843
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:08,199
is the soul roots indicator. So every one of us

844
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:14,280
has the zodiac, and I should say, the entire heavens

845
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:20,199
is this exceedingly complex matrix of angelic forces that the

846
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:25,639
soul is imprinted through as it incarnates. So we're not

847
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,840
our astrology modern astrology. I call it love, light and cluelessness.

848
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,719
Everyone all my Sun's sign, and the Internet has become

849
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,760
so enladened with sun sign astrology. And there is some

850
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:41,119
truth to it because the lower psyche is definitely the

851
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,079
egoic sense of self is the Sun. So we all

852
00:52:44,159 --> 00:52:47,199
have an ego, and we all have our sense of self,

853
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,400
but that's not us. And I think once we get

854
00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:55,840
past that, all the great spiritual teachers tell us that,

855
00:52:56,039 --> 00:53:00,519
you know, once we become more stoic, less reactive, and

856
00:53:01,519 --> 00:53:05,079
learn to be in connection with our higher self or

857
00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:09,800
our higher consciousness, we stop becoming so angry and violent

858
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,199
and all that, and we start really receiving maybe the

859
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,079
upper consciousness that we all have, and that is blocked

860
00:53:17,079 --> 00:53:20,719
a lot by the ego. And what's interesting is Saturn

861
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:24,480
seems to be the escape from Alcatraz planet. If I

862
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:26,559
go back to this diagram, this will kind of blow

863
00:53:26,639 --> 00:53:28,880
your mind. You know what Malachus means. That's the Earth,

864
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,079
so does the moon. That is Venus, that's Mercury, that's

865
00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:36,440
the Sun, that is Jupiter, that's Mars. Guess what Binya

866
00:53:36,559 --> 00:53:39,480
is Saturn. So when you look at the psyche, the

867
00:53:39,639 --> 00:53:42,920
spirit and the lower portion of the soul, we come

868
00:53:43,079 --> 00:53:48,840
here to rejoin this in incarnations through the purifications. Every

869
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,719
reading I do, including in my own life, we all say, God,

870
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:56,440
why do we have to endure this relationship or this situation?

871
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,719
Why is so and so mad at me? Or why

872
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,800
did I end up? You know, in a situation that

873
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,400
I grew up like this? In Vedic astrology, people always

874
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,280
think I'm psychic. They go, how did you know? My

875
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,039
mom was that way? My dad was that How did

876
00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:11,119
you know that you know this happened? And I'm saying

877
00:54:11,159 --> 00:54:14,239
because it showed up in the progressions and transits in

878
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,239
your Veda castrology, and they're like, wow. Like I met

879
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,599
my wife about twenty three years ago now at a

880
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:26,440
gas station in Malibu, And you know, I guess meeting

881
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,639
someone at a gas station is too intriguing sounding, but

882
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,119
if you put Malibu in there, it sounds better. So anyways,

883
00:54:33,199 --> 00:54:37,480
we ended up meeting at a coffee shop later, and

884
00:54:38,679 --> 00:54:42,000
I brought my computer with me and I cast her

885
00:54:42,159 --> 00:54:45,039
chart and the first thing I noticed was, Wow, what

886
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,119
happened to you at about two and a half three

887
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,320
years old? And you know, she gets a little bit

888
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,440
of a tear in her eye and she says, that's

889
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,639
when I was giving up for adoption and my aunt

890
00:54:54,679 --> 00:54:57,719
adopted me. Well, how would I know that? Because the

891
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,239
primary see the positions of the planets, to keep this

892
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:05,159
simple in plain English, when you're born, the positions of

893
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:10,360
all the planets will progress in what we call primary directions,

894
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,079
which is a fancy term for the motion of the

895
00:55:13,159 --> 00:55:17,599
earth daily. And when you view these you can see

896
00:55:17,679 --> 00:55:21,079
the riddles of life unfolding. And she had the primary

897
00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:24,880
directed moon conjuncting Saturn almost precisely two and a half

898
00:55:25,039 --> 00:55:27,840
years later after birth, right off the bat. I just

899
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,519
had a client the other day. I said, oh my god,

900
00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:32,159
what happened to you? Poor girl? At about three years old,

901
00:55:33,079 --> 00:55:37,920
just before four, she had the primary directed moon opposing Mars. Well,

902
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,280
her mother left her and she was raised by her father.

903
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,440
Her mother just left. So I see this all the time,

904
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,679
Like I had a horrible motorcycle accident in the late

905
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,199
seventies and I'm going, what the he cause it? And

906
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:55,079
I noticed primary directed Mars was conjuncting Mercury almost to

907
00:55:55,159 --> 00:55:59,480
the teeth. And I see this throughout all. We all

908
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,960
are h given challenges, and a lot of the religious

909
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,280
stuff is really accurate that we are here to you know,

910
00:56:07,559 --> 00:56:12,239
purify and become more spiritual and holy. You know, the

911
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,599
problem is is everyday life doesn't lend to that. We're

912
00:56:15,679 --> 00:56:19,119
all in this modality of you know, attack and balance

913
00:56:19,199 --> 00:56:21,840
the checkbook, get the job that we don't like, or

914
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,239
you know, endure all these things, and a lot of

915
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:29,960
them are karmic lessons. They really are, and it's our

916
00:56:30,039 --> 00:56:31,800
reaction to them that makes the difference.

917
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 3: Man, so many questions and uh, so much good stuff.

918
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,960
There's a bunch of people enjoying it in the chat.

919
00:56:39,039 --> 00:56:41,880
There's some people here who are familiar with the Vedic

920
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:43,599
astrology as well.

921
00:56:43,559 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: So really cool.

922
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so you know we spent we spent the

923
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,800
first hour talking about astrology and that we can keep

924
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,360
going on about it. There's some other things that that

925
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:58,000
we mentioned as well. And uh, you mentioned having these

926
00:56:58,119 --> 00:57:02,400
experiences with what some people call UFOs and things like that,

927
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:05,960
and how that took you to another level of whether

928
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,880
it's spirituality or just these experiences and things like that.

929
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,119
What were some of those encounters with UFOs and things

930
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:13,400
like that.

931
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,519
Speaker 1: I've had a lot. God, let me where can I start. Well,

932
00:57:18,639 --> 00:57:20,360
I'll tell you one that happened to me that was

933
00:57:20,519 --> 00:57:24,199
really kind of mind blowing. I used to be in

934
00:57:24,239 --> 00:57:29,599
a musical group and we would play and I was

935
00:57:29,679 --> 00:57:32,800
coming home from a girlfriend's house late one night on

936
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,079
a motorcycle. This is God has said to me, like

937
00:57:35,239 --> 00:57:39,400
nineteen seventy five, nineteen seventy six, it was a long

938
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:44,079
time ago. And I'm going along. This is way up

939
00:57:44,119 --> 00:57:47,159
in northern Wisconsin, and I'm going along a lake called

940
00:57:47,199 --> 00:57:50,800
Big Saint Germain, and I noticed out of my review

941
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,159
or out of my mirror on my left side, I

942
00:57:53,199 --> 00:57:56,239
saw a flash of yellow light. That's weird, you know.

943
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,159
It's three o'clock in the morning. And I look up

944
00:57:58,199 --> 00:57:59,760
and I'm in the middle of the woods, right CRUs

945
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:03,119
on this really desolate road. It was like sleepy hollow

946
00:58:03,199 --> 00:58:06,119
up there. And I look and I see this triangular

947
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,000
shape up above the trees. I thought, okay, that's kind

948
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,440
of weird, and it had this luminescent look. So then

949
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,760
I hit the gas and I'm going along. And there's

950
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,679
a lot of lakes up where we lived, this way

951
00:58:17,719 --> 00:58:20,079
up in the woods. And I got to our lake,

952
00:58:20,119 --> 00:58:22,519
which is called Lost Lake, and I was coming down

953
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,880
the road and I took a left going now going

954
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:30,719
along the lake shore and about probably a quarter mile up,

955
00:58:31,199 --> 00:58:35,960
the bike dies completely dies, just done, I mean, no lights, nothing,

956
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,559
And I thought, okay, And at the time I smoked.

957
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:42,760
Everybody smoked in the seventies. So I took my big

958
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,480
lighter out and I lighted, and I checked, and I

959
00:58:46,719 --> 00:58:48,440
remember I had a little tool kid. It was a

960
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:52,159
little tool kid underneath the battery, and I arked the

961
00:58:52,239 --> 00:58:55,760
battery with two with a wrench and a screwhart nothing,

962
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,800
I mean, just dead. I thought, wow, that's strange. So

963
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:01,639
just a little waist up the road. I knew a

964
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,559
friend was there, and you know, at three o'clock in

965
00:59:03,599 --> 00:59:05,519
the morning, I come knocking on the door and I

966
00:59:05,639 --> 00:59:07,639
said to mister Lara Matis, I said, hey, do you

967
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,480
do you mind if I saw to wake you up?

968
00:59:09,679 --> 00:59:12,159
Do you mind if I put my bike down here?

969
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,800
Because you know, I explained what happened, and he was

970
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,480
he said, yeah, I'll help you push it down. So

971
00:59:16,719 --> 00:59:18,880
he comes up to the road with me. This is

972
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,000
a long driveway and he's the one to notice it.

973
00:59:21,079 --> 00:59:24,440
He saw the same thing up there, way off above

974
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,599
the trees. He says, what the heck is that? And

975
00:59:26,679 --> 00:59:28,719
I said, well, that's interesting because I saw the thing

976
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,480
up above me over on Big Saint Germaine, and he said, wow,

977
00:59:32,559 --> 00:59:34,840
that's kind of weird looking, and it was coming down

978
00:59:35,039 --> 00:59:38,239
really really slowly. I used to track these things, so

979
00:59:39,239 --> 00:59:41,000
put the bike there. He gave me a ride home

980
00:59:41,039 --> 00:59:44,920
because I still had a few miles ago. And next

981
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,800
morning I took the pickup truck and came with my mother.

982
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,320
It came over because she was going to drive the

983
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,119
truck home and in case it started. And I went

984
00:59:53,159 --> 00:59:56,000
over there and was ready to load the bike up,

985
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,320
and I figured, well, maybe I'll just try it. I

986
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,280
hit the key. It just starts right up, perfect battery,

987
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,360
perfect and of course, you know, no explanation, but I

988
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,719
think that thing shut me down. So I've had many

989
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,360
experiences like that. I've had missing time where we've ended

990
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:15,159
up on other sides of roads. I've had spiritual demons

991
01:00:15,199 --> 01:00:17,320
come in and like grab me by the neck when

992
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:21,039
I'm sleeping and drive it away, and that got me.

993
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,760
This now enters the eighties. I had this really interesting

994
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:31,960
and fascinating journey. I was hired by this spiritual organization,

995
01:00:32,079 --> 01:00:34,159
actually a couple of them, to do all these radio

996
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,599
shows and with my studio, and we would do audio

997
01:00:37,679 --> 01:00:41,000
visual stuff and radio and some video a little bit

998
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,400
of film. That's how I ended up filming Mother Teresa

999
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:47,599
of Calcutta, and I started recording all these theologians coming

1000
01:00:47,679 --> 01:00:51,360
over from Rome in the place called the Bellermine Retreat

1001
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:56,280
House in Chicago, and it was really fascinating because I

1002
01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:02,079
was exposed to all this different religious theologies. And of

1003
01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:05,679
course meating Mother Teresa was really cool. She was very

1004
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,320
very sweet, hardly said anything, and I got the recorder

1005
01:01:09,519 --> 01:01:11,639
and film her for about two and a half hours

1006
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:16,199
in a little town called Kenosha, Wisconsin. And long story short,

1007
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,519
as time went on, I just was really blessed to

1008
01:01:19,599 --> 01:01:26,480
be exposed to so many different things, both in Christianity,

1009
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:32,440
Judaism and Hinduism and Tibetan you know, all Daoists, all

1010
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:36,239
these different things, and Buddhism. And it's always been a

1011
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,199
fascination to me that they all believe in God, but

1012
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:45,039
they all believe in it completely different and there's truths

1013
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:47,800
every one of them. And I'm all, this, where does

1014
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:52,239
all this fit with astrology? And clearly we are in

1015
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:59,280
a very divine diverse place here that it's all going

1016
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:00,199
on here on earth.

1017
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 3: It really is.

1018
01:02:01,119 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: This is a really amazing place of such diverse karmic energies.

1019
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,880
I mean, you can do anything here. You can get

1020
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,079
angry and kill someone, which I would highly recommend no

1021
01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:18,400
one do, because the karmic implication beyond that alone, let

1022
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:23,960
alone the horribleness of that is not recommended. And then

1023
01:02:24,039 --> 01:02:26,079
you can do the most divine things you can. Heal,

1024
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,599
you can you know, be kind to people and really

1025
01:02:30,199 --> 01:02:34,079
nurture and make wonderful things on this planet. So it's

1026
01:02:34,119 --> 01:02:36,880
the place of free will, it really is. And I

1027
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:41,079
think the ghosts and demons are pissed off at us,

1028
01:02:41,239 --> 01:02:42,880
and a lot of them, not so much the ghost

1029
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,119
as much as the demons, because I really think they

1030
01:02:45,159 --> 01:02:48,159
were cast down. I think the Genesis story is much

1031
01:02:48,199 --> 01:02:52,199
more accurate than meets the eye, and it appears that

1032
01:02:52,519 --> 01:02:58,280
they really don't like human beings. They despise us because

1033
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,559
we have the free will. Whether if they can lead us,

1034
01:03:01,599 --> 01:03:02,400
they certainly will.

1035
01:03:03,159 --> 01:03:05,199
Speaker 3: You think they're jealous of us, and they need a

1036
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,920
host to kind of like feel what it feels like

1037
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,159
to be human again or not human but have a

1038
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,119
physical existence again.

1039
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. Yeah, I mean we

1040
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,320
hear these The books of Enoch are very fascinating. And

1041
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:24,280
there's overwhelming evidence that has been presented by some really

1042
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:28,639
good minds that the New Testament was largely influenced by

1043
01:03:28,679 --> 01:03:32,440
the Book of Enoch. And they found Ethiopian texts, there's

1044
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:37,719
Egyptian and different versions of it, and that appears to

1045
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,719
be pre and Aluvian, and it speaks about how the

1046
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:45,599
demons have copulated with women. And of course we hear

1047
01:03:45,639 --> 01:03:48,480
the story of the giants. Well, there's military guys. We'll

1048
01:03:48,519 --> 01:03:54,119
tell you that they've seen strange phenomena underground giants different places.

1049
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,960
This stuff is kept very, very secret. I know I've

1050
01:03:58,079 --> 01:04:01,440
seen a lot of people have heard a bigfoot, right,

1051
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:03,840
but I've seen some stuff up in the woods that

1052
01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:08,880
was pretty inexplicable. I'm not that tall. I'm about maybe

1053
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,239
six three six three and a half and I was

1054
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:16,360
walking in the again in the seventies and I saw

1055
01:04:16,559 --> 01:04:20,360
this huge individual. I mean he had to be eight

1056
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:25,159
feet tall. I mean just towered over me and hardly crunched.

1057
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,159
I just heard the snow crunch a little bit. I

1058
01:04:27,239 --> 01:04:29,199
was walking up on a dark night to a friend's

1059
01:04:29,239 --> 01:04:33,679
house and this guy turned around. Whatever he was, he

1060
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,679
didn't look like a sasquatch. He just looked like a

1061
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,440
huge individual. He turned around and saw me. It was

1062
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,719
probably about one hundred yards away, so I couldn't see it.

1063
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,639
It was pretty dark. He turned around and ran silently

1064
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,760
and went through the brush. And I know that brush.

1065
01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:51,000
You could not a deer couldn't go through that brush

1066
01:04:51,079 --> 01:04:53,960
and not break a twig. And that dude was gone.

1067
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,039
And I went up to my friend's house. We went

1068
01:04:56,119 --> 01:04:57,960
down there with lights and we're looking. We saw these

1069
01:04:58,039 --> 01:05:02,039
huge footprints and pretty wild stuff. So there's a lot

1070
01:05:02,079 --> 01:05:04,599
of stuff going on on this planet that is very secret.

1071
01:05:05,199 --> 01:05:08,000
I believe the Black ops and the military are very

1072
01:05:08,079 --> 01:05:10,199
familiar with this stuff. I mean, we've heard all the

1073
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,639
stories about the underground bases and all this crazy stuff

1074
01:05:13,679 --> 01:05:16,239
going on. There's probably a lot more truth to it

1075
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:20,639
than we know. For some reason, it's not allowed to

1076
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:25,440
be exposed at this time to the secular public. I mean,

1077
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:27,039
we know they go out of their way to keep

1078
01:05:27,079 --> 01:05:32,800
it secret, and I think the government has probably been interacting.

1079
01:05:33,159 --> 01:05:36,440
I mean, we've heard about Lieutenant Philip Corsol. I'm sure

1080
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:40,079
you've heard of him, right, the ole Roswell thing. In fact,

1081
01:05:40,119 --> 01:05:44,239
my wife Camille, who wrote for UFO magazine in the

1082
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:48,880
late nineties early two thousands, I was exposed to a

1083
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:53,719
lot of really wonderful researchers, and I work with remote

1084
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:59,039
viewing people both outside of the military and some I

1085
01:05:59,119 --> 01:06:03,559
can't mention, but I've done research and we found that

1086
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:07,960
the celestial energy is meaning astrology and positioning of fixed

1087
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,639
stars and planets have a huge effect on remote viewing,

1088
01:06:11,239 --> 01:06:14,719
and they see all kinds of stuff. It's pretty bizarre

1089
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,559
what goes on in this planet, and it's also bizarre

1090
01:06:18,639 --> 01:06:21,880
to me how it's kept so secret. Many guys in

1091
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:25,920
the military will tell you they have seen phenomena documented

1092
01:06:26,039 --> 01:06:30,159
on radar and scientific instruments. Right off the coast of

1093
01:06:30,239 --> 01:06:35,280
Malibu here there's this huge underground tunnel and they've documented

1094
01:06:35,559 --> 01:06:37,679
these craft come out of there and they go from

1095
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:41,760
like nothing to you know, warp speed if you will.

1096
01:06:42,119 --> 01:06:44,840
I mean, it's just thousands of miles an hour. Anything

1097
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:46,480
we'd have would burn up trying.

1098
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:51,159
Speaker 3: To do that. Have you been up to Mount Adams

1099
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,719
where James Gillilan is in Washington?

1100
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:55,159
Speaker 1: Oh? No, I have not.

1101
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,639
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, it's pretty pretty interesting. They're seeing all these

1102
01:06:58,719 --> 01:07:02,079
type of UFOs and craft and things like that that

1103
01:07:02,199 --> 01:07:05,519
they are kind of summoning, if you will, going out

1104
01:07:05,599 --> 01:07:08,000
under the night sky and kind of making contact. And

1105
01:07:08,039 --> 01:07:11,679
there's a lot of activity in and around mountains which

1106
01:07:11,679 --> 01:07:14,920
are interesting. There's portals and opening up that they're catching

1107
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,639
on camera, and lights coming out of the mountain and

1108
01:07:17,679 --> 01:07:20,360
flying away and coming into the top of a mountain

1109
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,519
and things like that. Even around volcanoes. We've seen UFO

1110
01:07:23,639 --> 01:07:25,679
activities around volcanoes and such as well.

1111
01:07:27,079 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: You know, that's a great topic. You bring up mountains.

1112
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,280
What's in a mountain all kinds of minerals, crystals, right,

1113
01:07:36,719 --> 01:07:40,400
when you think about minerals and crystals. I mean even

1114
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,360
in our computers, the chips still use crystals to time.

1115
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,679
So it's amazing when you look at they could be

1116
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:57,400
very complex switches, dimensional switches that the mineral compositions allow.

1117
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:02,679
I mean, we're just began to understand. I think the

1118
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,960
future is very bright when it comes to technology and science,

1119
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:09,800
as I really do. I think we're unfolding. We're just

1120
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,320
scratching the surface of what this whole world is all

1121
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:17,279
about and existence. You know, quantum physicists will tell you

1122
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:21,039
that everything is made up of molecules and atoms, right,

1123
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:25,720
but what's really connecting them what's holding them in these patterns.

1124
01:08:26,279 --> 01:08:28,680
They're all like little solar systems, if you will. The

1125
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,479
only difference between gold and plastic and air is the

1126
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:37,279
molecular construct. It's all just energy. It's all just energy.

1127
01:08:38,039 --> 01:08:41,359
And to manipulate that if one knew, and I believe

1128
01:08:41,399 --> 01:08:46,479
Tesla was cracking into that, and that's the golden secrets

1129
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,880
that I think are going to become unfolded. I personally

1130
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,680
think it's angels holding everything together. I really really do.

1131
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,560
We ain't smart enough to figure that one out.

1132
01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:01,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, have you had any experiences or any counters, encounters,

1133
01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:06,600
any visions of that kind of kind of thing. Well, yeah,

1134
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:10,560
I know you've talked about the demonic ryan, these ets

1135
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:14,000
or oh goblins, but what about like the beautiful and

1136
01:09:14,199 --> 01:09:16,920
well make you feel good type of beings as well.

1137
01:09:17,399 --> 01:09:21,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've actually been saved by some of them, miraculously.

1138
01:09:21,159 --> 01:09:23,399
I think we all have, or we wouldn't be drawing breath.

1139
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,399
We're just so far out of touch with it, you know.

1140
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,840
When you take that model again, this is just a

1141
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,000
nice way to speak about it. They say the upper

1142
01:09:32,159 --> 01:09:38,520
angelic realms hold these guys in abeyance, And I don't

1143
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:42,039
think the world would exist if they didn't they they

1144
01:09:42,159 --> 01:09:46,520
say the guardian Angel of the Thrones brings us souls

1145
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:51,479
down into creations, and I do say that plurally. So

1146
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,319
there isn't just Earth. And I think once we get

1147
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,720
done with the work that we need to do here,

1148
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,640
I think, like you mentioned earlier, we move on to

1149
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,720
many other worlds and many other dimensions and heavens, and

1150
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:08,399
I mean God would only know literally what those are.

1151
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:12,640
And I think those upper angels, thank God, literally hold

1152
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,279
these guys in abeyance. You know, we hear the stories.

1153
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:20,640
One of the most probably utilized magical texts is The

1154
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,640
Keys of Solomon, and I think it's very dangerous. I

1155
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:29,039
really do not subscribe to magic. And everyone who's familiar

1156
01:10:29,079 --> 01:10:31,479
in the Western world with the Bible will certainly know

1157
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:36,880
what Exodus is. Well, Exodus has seventy two encrypted angel names.

1158
01:10:37,279 --> 01:10:39,800
There's actually seventy two to the good and seventy two

1159
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,279
to the evil. And there's many ancient texts that describe this.

1160
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:48,560
And if you permeate the three letters in the well,

1161
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,720
there's permeations of the three verses, I should say, not

1162
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:55,159
three letters, three verses that give you the names of

1163
01:10:55,239 --> 01:10:58,880
all these angels. Well, they're known in Hebrew as the

1164
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:03,760
shem Hemophore. Well, that's the cornerstone of many medieval grim

1165
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:07,720
mars and magic, and it's very dangerous stuff because what

1166
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,680
happens is people get a hold of this stuff and

1167
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,920
they start summoning demons and spirits, and this stuff's really real.

1168
01:11:15,119 --> 01:11:19,199
And the angels appear to protect us from that other

1169
01:11:19,319 --> 01:11:22,680
than maybe our karma, until we open those doors. That's

1170
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,560
why I run into a lot of folks. Hey, what

1171
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,840
do you think of this? I'd stay away from it. Buddy,

1172
01:11:27,039 --> 01:11:30,760
you open that you dial that number. And this again

1173
01:11:31,239 --> 01:11:35,600
goes right back to many Christians will remember what did

1174
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,319
Christ do? He cast out legion, he did this, he

1175
01:11:38,399 --> 01:11:43,279
did that, And this is all about spiritual depossession and

1176
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:47,560
spiritual cleansing. Well, if the upper angels weren't allowing that,

1177
01:11:48,159 --> 01:11:52,159
this place would wouldn't even exist. You know, all these

1178
01:11:52,279 --> 01:11:56,199
horrible wars and things seem to it seems to be

1179
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,439
free will is allowed here. I mean, look at the

1180
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:01,439
things we do to each other. We sue each other,

1181
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,800
we kill each other, we do horrible things. But on

1182
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,359
the other hand, no one looks at the beauty that's

1183
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:10,800
going on here. I mean, just life itself. I don't

1184
01:12:11,079 --> 01:12:16,199
you find me any educated, pompous, arrogant person. And many

1185
01:12:16,279 --> 01:12:18,279
of them are, though a lot of them are very humble.

1186
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,760
Who can design life? I mean, just look at we

1187
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:26,479
can split genes and do genetics. But you find me

1188
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:31,199
somebody who can actually take raw substance materials out of

1189
01:12:31,239 --> 01:12:36,439
the elemental universe and design life. Not a chance, Not

1190
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,079
a chance. I mean the genetics that unfold in you.

1191
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:43,079
We were all little babies, and that seed just grows.

1192
01:12:43,279 --> 01:12:46,159
I mean, the doctors can tell you why you're alive,

1193
01:12:46,279 --> 01:12:48,600
and they can analyze you in the allopathic sense of

1194
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:52,520
what's wrong, but they sure can't create life or maintain

1195
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,960
it when it's over, when that spirit vacates the body.

1196
01:12:56,199 --> 01:12:59,319
And I think that's all the angels. We're all experiencing

1197
01:12:59,359 --> 01:13:01,159
it all the time, we're just so blocked from it.

1198
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,239
Speaker 3: What do you think about you talking about, like, you

1199
01:13:04,279 --> 01:13:06,319
know what I'm saying, being careful with magic and things

1200
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,279
like that. What about channeling? I know, you help people

1201
01:13:09,279 --> 01:13:12,239
who have gone through a lot of spiritual crazy stuff

1202
01:13:12,239 --> 01:13:13,920
that they've kind of opened up doors and just kind

1203
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,239
of helping them out and things like that. What about channeling?

1204
01:13:16,319 --> 01:13:20,039
Do you think that people can become demonically possessed or

1205
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:23,359
oppressed by opening up their mind and their spirit to

1206
01:13:24,199 --> 01:13:27,119
letting other spirits inhabit their body and give them downloads

1207
01:13:27,119 --> 01:13:29,720
of secret information or privy information and things like that.

1208
01:13:31,319 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: I think it's a dangerous area. I know I could

1209
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,199
do that, and I do not choose to do so.

1210
01:13:38,159 --> 01:13:43,199
I know I do clearings on people, and I have

1211
01:13:43,359 --> 01:13:48,520
seen sometimes you just can't do it until the time

1212
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,680
is right. That's where astrology is really interesting. There seems

1213
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:59,760
to be here's an interesting thing the Invedic astrology at

1214
01:14:00,199 --> 01:14:02,640
but in the Vedantic literature. So you've got to remember

1215
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,319
Vedic astrology is only a small branch of Vedanta. It's

1216
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:13,520
so amazing the secrets that were in the ancient Vedantic texts.

1217
01:14:14,159 --> 01:14:17,239
And many people may have heard of the Upanishads or

1218
01:14:17,279 --> 01:14:20,960
the Jupanishads. There's the Major and Miter Jupanishads. They're kind

1219
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:25,199
of like scriptures, and there's one called the Tatriaca where

1220
01:14:25,239 --> 01:14:30,560
it mentions in Sanskrit the word graha actually means planet,

1221
01:14:31,079 --> 01:14:35,279
and Graha also means Caesar or grasper of the aura.

1222
01:14:36,039 --> 01:14:39,279
And a lot of times the dashes that were in

1223
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:43,720
there are certain you could say karmic things going on.

1224
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:47,039
See in Hebrew they call it an impure. They say

1225
01:14:47,119 --> 01:14:51,279
that at thirteen years old. That's why Judaism has the

1226
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:56,920
bar Mitzvah bat Mitzvah ritual. But that's actually not just

1227
01:14:57,079 --> 01:15:01,039
germane to Judaism. That was actually known that that happened

1228
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,279
in the Danta, and also knew that Tibetan, Lamas and

1229
01:15:04,359 --> 01:15:08,720
many other cultures knew that at that time different angelic

1230
01:15:09,279 --> 01:15:12,960
forces would join the body. This is why when puberty happens,

1231
01:15:13,079 --> 01:15:15,960
it's such a I mean, teenagers has completely changed. Any

1232
01:15:16,039 --> 01:15:19,279
parent could admit when you watch your little children turn

1233
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:23,239
to teenagers, they change, They drastically change. Not only do

1234
01:15:23,359 --> 01:15:27,520
they go through puberty, but they also personally really change.

1235
01:15:28,319 --> 01:15:33,640
And these angels and spirits, they're called the bures, some

1236
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,359
people call them dubuque, some people call them different things.

1237
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:40,000
But there's a mirror of different things that join us

1238
01:15:40,079 --> 01:15:43,760
throughout our lives. And I really believe the celestial angelic

1239
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:48,079
courts show that. And the text I was referring to earlier,

1240
01:15:48,239 --> 01:15:52,760
the Sharih Gilgem, is all about that. It speaks about

1241
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:58,239
how we're all here purifying and rectifying and rejoining the

1242
01:15:58,359 --> 01:16:02,520
fragments of the soul's in psyche as we go through

1243
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:08,279
these incarnations, and we're definitely connected from a soul roots

1244
01:16:08,279 --> 01:16:12,960
standpoint to our parents and our lineage. You know, Like

1245
01:16:13,039 --> 01:16:15,039
we get our DNA tests and we say, oh, I'm

1246
01:16:15,079 --> 01:16:21,039
from France or from you know wherever. That's just the

1247
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:25,520
physical DNA. I'm talking about the spiritual DNA, the actual

1248
01:16:26,119 --> 01:16:29,399
spiritual soul root connections which may or may not be

1249
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:35,520
genetically traceable, but they're spiritually traceable. And Vedic astrology really

1250
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,960
taps into that, even though I don't think we can

1251
01:16:38,039 --> 01:16:40,680
go too far, but you can see a lot. And

1252
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:44,159
I know when I try and get around channeling, I

1253
01:16:44,319 --> 01:16:48,960
get danger. I think you're now agreeing to open up

1254
01:16:49,079 --> 01:16:53,800
your aura, and other things can jump in. One of

1255
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:58,520
my favorite texts was doctor Carl Wickland. He was a

1256
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:04,640
psychiatrist who documented a book called Thirty Years among the Dead,

1257
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:10,159
and his wife was a channel and she, like Abraham Hicks.

1258
01:17:10,199 --> 01:17:11,720
I noticed you have her in one of your songs.

1259
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:13,239
I was listening to your songs. You got good music,

1260
01:17:13,319 --> 01:17:15,840
by the way, Yeah, I was checking out your music

1261
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:19,520
before I got on the show, and I love that

1262
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,279
you have Abraham Hicks embedded in, you know, chanting in

1263
01:17:23,359 --> 01:17:26,279
one of your songs. That's really awesome. And she was

1264
01:17:27,039 --> 01:17:31,760
quite amazing, because it still is because she There's many channels,

1265
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,640
like I've met dear Uncle who is of course Bashar,

1266
01:17:35,199 --> 01:17:38,840
and many others, and I think there's some wonderful channels

1267
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,920
out there. I just personally think it's dangerous. There's some

1268
01:17:42,039 --> 01:17:46,079
people who may be karmically set up for that. But

1269
01:17:46,239 --> 01:17:52,039
I do believe, like doctor Carl Wickland's wife, after thirty

1270
01:17:52,199 --> 01:17:56,840
years of taking in disincarnate souls and allowing them to

1271
01:17:57,119 --> 01:18:03,439
give their you know, messages and various different things, I

1272
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:05,840
would recommend anybody who read that book. It's called Thirty

1273
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,279
Years among the Dead by doctor Carl Wickland. It is

1274
01:18:08,359 --> 01:18:14,840
a psychiatrist's absolute documentation, in my opinion, of all these

1275
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:21,319
people disincarnate souls and their stories are astounding. And by

1276
01:18:21,359 --> 01:18:24,319
the way, doctor Wickland was the head of the Los

1277
01:18:24,359 --> 01:18:28,520
Angeles County Mental Institution from I think nineteen eighteen or

1278
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:33,920
nineteen twenty up until the late thirties or forties, it

1279
01:18:34,079 --> 01:18:36,840
might even have been later than that. And he was

1280
01:18:37,039 --> 01:18:39,199
really here during the birth of Hollywood, and he had

1281
01:18:39,239 --> 01:18:43,479
many stars show up and warn people don't get into drugs,

1282
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,720
stay away from alcohol. All these different people would come

1283
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,039
through his wife channeling. Well in the very end, she

1284
01:18:50,199 --> 01:18:53,920
ended up possessed and insane and they couldn't cure her.

1285
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,800
So even though I think a lot of people get

1286
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:06,119
some benefit and validation of the other worlds, it's it's

1287
01:19:06,159 --> 01:19:08,119
a dangerous place to be, you know, and I have

1288
01:19:08,199 --> 01:19:11,239
great respect for those who can do it and not

1289
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:12,119
get possessed.

1290
01:19:12,239 --> 01:19:14,159
Speaker 3: Let's put it that way. I think I think there's

1291
01:19:14,279 --> 01:19:17,199
I think there's there's a lot going on too then

1292
01:19:17,319 --> 01:19:19,680
than just you know, I'm opening up my mind to

1293
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,479
these other spirits. I think that a lot of people

1294
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:24,199
actually put together a little documentary that I did, where

1295
01:19:24,319 --> 01:19:27,760
like it almost seems that a lot of these this

1296
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:31,479
information that these some of these channeling channelers are getting

1297
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,159
is already within them, like they are are, like it's

1298
01:19:35,399 --> 01:19:38,479
it's a part of their psyche that they're not confident

1299
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:42,399
in sharing. But as you have the scapegoat, as Bashar

1300
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,960
Bhar will tell you, like it is, I'm I'm a

1301
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:49,479
little I'm I'm you know, kind of withdrawn. I'm not confident.

1302
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,720
But as I step into this persona this character that

1303
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:56,399
I've created I can. I can freely receive information in

1304
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:58,880
parts of things that I believe and things like that.

1305
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,319
But even even in you going into some type of

1306
01:20:01,399 --> 01:20:03,319
a trance state like that, you're able to kind of

1307
01:20:03,399 --> 01:20:06,319
even begin to flow, and stuff just kind of moves

1308
01:20:06,399 --> 01:20:08,560
like in that flow state as well. So I think

1309
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,439
there's a lot of people doing that and calling it

1310
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,319
channeling other entities, but it's they're kind of using that

1311
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:18,359
entity as a scapegoat, as a mask, if you will.

1312
01:20:20,279 --> 01:20:24,239
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I've seen that too. I think we're all

1313
01:20:25,039 --> 01:20:29,680
so divinely unique. Every one of us has skill sets

1314
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,039
that someone else doesn't have. And you know, I think

1315
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:37,439
one of the things that is so important today more

1316
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,600
than ever with AI coming in and technology, and I

1317
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:45,479
think this world, we're seeing the suppression of our own

1318
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:51,119
individualities and the suppression of our own consciousness is the

1319
01:20:51,239 --> 01:20:55,359
danger because your unique in your unique ways. Everyone else

1320
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:58,239
is unique in their unique ways, and we're all here

1321
01:20:59,159 --> 01:21:02,399
for a special reason. And I think the more we

1322
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,720
honor that and respect that in each one of us,

1323
01:21:05,239 --> 01:21:07,760
Because there are some people I've met who do channeling,

1324
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:12,239
they're astounding, they're stounding, And you know, I have my

1325
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:14,840
skill sets and I have my limitations. We all do.

1326
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:18,319
And I think one of the things I like doing

1327
01:21:18,399 --> 01:21:23,359
in readings to people is pointing out certain things. There's

1328
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:28,039
angels that are on the degree rising, and there's angels

1329
01:21:28,079 --> 01:21:32,880
that rule every single degree of the maderial and lunar mansions.

1330
01:21:33,359 --> 01:21:37,399
It's very complex, but these have great insights to show

1331
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:41,760
someone where their skills might lie that they didn't even

1332
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,560
realize that they had. You know, one of the things

1333
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,600
I like about America is you can be anything you want.

1334
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,960
I mean, nobody's telling you you can't do something. And

1335
01:21:51,199 --> 01:21:52,880
you know, one of the things that kind of bothers

1336
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,079
me right now is, you know, we need to maintain

1337
01:21:56,279 --> 01:21:58,880
that freedom in this country to where not to get

1338
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,680
political or anything, but as long as we can always

1339
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,680
maintain that people have a right no matter what their race,

1340
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,079
with their creed, what their color, doesn't matter. We're all

1341
01:22:07,239 --> 01:22:10,680
just souls having a physical experience, and I think we're

1342
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:12,720
going to find as time goes on, we're all just

1343
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,840
going to integrate. And I think if we become more

1344
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:20,079
aware that we are spiritual beings having this physical experience,

1345
01:22:20,199 --> 01:22:24,760
the more we can stop looking at education and all

1346
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:29,239
these very lower level programming things, not that education's bad

1347
01:22:29,279 --> 01:22:32,279
because I think education is wonderful, but I also think

1348
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:37,680
it limits true innate, spiritual talents we're all born with

1349
01:22:38,399 --> 01:22:44,439
and have that you know, could be cultivated. And that's

1350
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,840
where astrology really can shine is seeing that, you know,

1351
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:52,319
seeing that seeing your path, or being more open to

1352
01:22:52,399 --> 01:22:53,760
the possibilities of your path.

1353
01:22:54,199 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 3: That's awesome, really good. Well, Jeff, if somebody wanted to

1354
01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,800
book a session with you, wanted to check out more

1355
01:23:00,279 --> 01:23:01,680
of your work, what would be a good place for

1356
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:02,079
them to go.

1357
01:23:03,199 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 1: Jeff at Jeffharmon dot com. That's h A R M

1358
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:09,000
A N dot com, Jeff at Jeffharmon dot com. And

1359
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:13,680
emails always the best. My wife Camille is amazing with people,

1360
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:17,000
and she handles all the scheduling, which is wonderful, but

1361
01:23:17,399 --> 01:23:19,960
it's funny. You know. One last thing I'd like to say,

1362
01:23:20,279 --> 01:23:23,680
I've always, you know, had a diverse set of talents.

1363
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:27,840
I've always worked in film and music and audio, and

1364
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,520
I used to do forensics work. I used to go

1365
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:35,079
into maximum security prisons and print prisoners, and it's so

1366
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:39,479
I've been so blessed to see this wide verse diversity

1367
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:43,920
of life, and I always wondered, and that's where astrology

1368
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,439
always kept with me. I'm like, why does this one

1369
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:49,000
poor individual end up, you know, in this situation, and

1370
01:23:49,039 --> 01:23:50,960
another one on them in that one, another one into

1371
01:23:51,039 --> 01:23:54,880
this one. And when you start looking at astrology not

1372
01:23:55,039 --> 01:23:58,600
as us, but as a lesson we all are here

1373
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:02,039
to learn in a very divine way, it starts making

1374
01:24:02,119 --> 01:24:05,279
more sense. And I think the most powerful thing in

1375
01:24:05,319 --> 01:24:09,159
the universe is reaction. There's one thing they will never control,

1376
01:24:09,399 --> 01:24:13,640
and that is your ability to react to things. You know,

1377
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:18,680
the way we respond to a given situation is everything.

1378
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,399
You know, it really is. It's it's our ability to

1379
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:26,239
respond in the appropriate ways that that help us a lot.

1380
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:29,039
Speaker 3: I agree. I think free will is one of the

1381
01:24:29,119 --> 01:24:32,079
most holy and precious things that we have. And again

1382
01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:34,880
mentioning those other entities, they don't really have it. They're

1383
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:39,199
kind of created to carry out jobs and and things

1384
01:24:39,359 --> 01:24:42,239
like that, and and they can't go outside of that,

1385
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:44,960
and so I think a lot of them are jealous

1386
01:24:45,319 --> 01:24:47,399
of and when they do, they step out of the

1387
01:24:48,199 --> 01:24:51,600
you know, the the order of things, if you will,

1388
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:53,880
and then they get punished in the punishments for them

1389
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,119
as well. And and just like us, when we step

1390
01:24:56,159 --> 01:25:00,159
out of our duties, and jobs and our push our

1391
01:25:00,239 --> 01:25:03,319
limitations to different realms, or whether you talk about some

1392
01:25:03,359 --> 01:25:05,520
of this dark magic and trying to create bonds and

1393
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:09,079
get secret information from demons or gin or something like that.

1394
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:12,279
You know, we we fall into trouble many times as well.

1395
01:25:12,359 --> 01:25:16,279
So it's that whole hierarchy in order. I'm I'm intrigued

1396
01:25:16,319 --> 01:25:18,880
with it, and I've experienced and encountered a bunch just

1397
01:25:19,039 --> 01:25:21,800
like you. And it seems like you, uh, you have

1398
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:28,119
a soft spot for the cabalistic way way of thinking.

1399
01:25:28,239 --> 01:25:30,560
Is that is that a safe place, h place to

1400
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:31,680
to study?

1401
01:25:32,399 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 1: Well, I would say of a soft spot for both

1402
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:41,439
the Vedantic and the Cobbalistic and Egyptian and Sheldon. The

1403
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:48,560
reason why is because it's a system that is more

1404
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:52,079
cohesive you can relate to it. I only use those

1405
01:25:52,119 --> 01:25:55,640
diagrams because it is is a really cohesive way to

1406
01:25:55,800 --> 01:26:00,479
look at something that's so vast and so incomprehensive. I mean,

1407
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,560
when you start talking about the possibility of forty nine

1408
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:07,640
parallel universes forty nine subdimensions within each one, I mean

1409
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,079
it's mind boggling. And the same thing when you look

1410
01:26:10,119 --> 01:26:14,239
at the astral worlds, and it's very interesting because a

1411
01:26:14,359 --> 01:26:20,159
lot of very rational psychiatrists. Doctor Edith Fiori. If anyone

1412
01:26:20,239 --> 01:26:22,920
wants to read a wonderful book, it's called The Unquiet

1413
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,479
Dead by doctor Edith Fiori. You may have heard of it.

1414
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:30,760
Doctor Louise Frye, who just passed away in her nineties.

1415
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,600
Wonderful lady was a medical doctor who got sick and

1416
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,680
tired of medicating and doing surgeries and said, there's something

1417
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:40,159
else going on here. She became a hypnotherapist. She started

1418
01:26:40,199 --> 01:26:45,000
doing regressions and finding out that people were actually possessing

1419
01:26:45,119 --> 01:26:52,159
other people. And the reason I leaned most towards the

1420
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:57,680
Vedantic and Cobbalistic and Tibetan stuff is because it's so old,

1421
01:26:58,159 --> 01:27:01,520
and it's so structured that you can talk about vast

1422
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:07,279
things like this and easier ways. And it also, nowhere

1423
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:12,119
can you come up with and this will blow your

1424
01:27:12,159 --> 01:27:21,840
hair back, the exceedingly complex numerological web of angelic forces

1425
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:27,680
and things that intertie with the Western Bible. Then you

1426
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:32,199
can in the Aramaic and Hebrew ciphers. A lot of

1427
01:27:32,239 --> 01:27:35,800
people don't know the Psalms was originally called tahilim, what

1428
01:27:36,039 --> 01:27:39,479
still is in Judaism and in Hebrew, but the shimushti

1429
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:45,039
Hilim predates the Bible as we know it. The some

1430
01:27:45,199 --> 01:27:48,479
of the psalms can date back to fifteen hundred BC.

1431
01:27:49,199 --> 01:27:51,359
Let's do the math here, folks, that's almost four thousand

1432
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:55,119
years ago. It's thirty five hundred years ago, and they

1433
01:27:55,159 --> 01:27:58,680
don't know, but that's the best guess from many scholars.

1434
01:27:59,359 --> 01:28:02,800
And there are secrets embedded in that where you can

1435
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:06,239
use ciphers, and many people are familiar with this. They're

1436
01:28:06,319 --> 01:28:09,479
called the Well. There's many types of ciphers, but the

1437
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:14,640
most common ones used where you rearrange you like an otbash.

1438
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:18,039
Just one that's used the most. That's a liftov bet

1439
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:21,960
and shin, where you literally order the Hebrew alphabet and that,

1440
01:28:22,079 --> 01:28:25,239
and you pass a verse or scripture through that. You

1441
01:28:25,279 --> 01:28:28,319
will come up with an angelic name or a numerological

1442
01:28:28,399 --> 01:28:31,640
equivalent to that. And now, when you get back to

1443
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:35,600
ancient astrology and you forget about pisces and ares and

1444
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,720
all this area fairy stuff, you start seeing, oh my god,

1445
01:28:39,239 --> 01:28:41,439
there was a matrix that your soul came in on.

1446
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:48,560
That's pretty mind boggling. And it ties into these ancient texts,

1447
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:54,239
particularly in the rabbinical texts where the pouch of the

1448
01:28:54,319 --> 01:28:57,840
slingshot is the astral world's souls dwell in until they're

1449
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:01,520
reincarnated or until they peer and move on. They and

1450
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:05,960
Saturn seems to be the escape from Alcatraz planet. And

1451
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,520
what's interesting many ufologists say, well, we see all these

1452
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,680
crafts coming in and out of there. Well, there's something

1453
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,199
coming in and out of there. I can tell you

1454
01:29:13,319 --> 01:29:18,359
that I've seen it, and whatever it is, it certainly

1455
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:22,680
seems to be a very divine place here where a

1456
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:24,920
lot of pain, a lot of love, and all points

1457
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:28,680
in between go on to purify and rectify the soul.

1458
01:29:29,239 --> 01:29:34,760
And I think the ancient rabbinical texts. There's a library

1459
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,600
that was found in the seventeen hundreds that was over

1460
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:40,479
two thousand years old. It was known as the chiro

1461
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:45,680
Genzia Synagogue in Egypt. Blow your hairback, blow. I mean,

1462
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:49,720
I've been pilfering through those things forever. And I mean,

1463
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:54,600
oh my God, talk about journey of the souls. It

1464
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:58,960
is and Rome will not look at it. They throw

1465
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:01,159
everything in the bottom of the ba and you're all

1466
01:30:01,239 --> 01:30:03,119
sinners and you're all going to hell, you know. So,

1467
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:07,039
I mean it's not that I think Christianity is the problem.

1468
01:30:07,119 --> 01:30:11,199
I just think some of the forefathers throughout critical documents

1469
01:30:11,279 --> 01:30:12,640
that you know, blow your hair back.

1470
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:16,279
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, have you heard of the recognitions of Clement?

1471
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,279
Have you heard of that writing? No? I have not.

1472
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:23,239
That's interesting, it's yeah, really interesting. There's some really cool

1473
01:30:23,279 --> 01:30:26,560
parts in there that talk about how demons get access

1474
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:30,640
to a person's body through the digestive system and gorging

1475
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:34,319
oneself and things like that, and wine and stuff, and

1476
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:36,760
so there's some really intricate stuff in there. I think

1477
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:41,239
he was a disciple of Peter and barnabas uh as

1478
01:30:41,279 --> 01:30:41,520
it were.

1479
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 1: Well, I know where he got that stuff. I can

1480
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:47,880
tell you that if if you crack into the the

1481
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:52,520
older texts, which is the again Shariah Gilgum, the Nephessa

1482
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:55,960
sits is where a lot of these Christian writers had

1483
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:59,600
gotten that stuff. And they're right, They're absolutely right. You

1484
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,239
can get that from plants. This is where blessing of

1485
01:31:02,319 --> 01:31:06,159
food came from. See in the Shariha Gilgum, it talks

1486
01:31:06,239 --> 01:31:10,479
about how evil souls will be possibly incarnate, and this

1487
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,880
will blow your hair back. In the mineral kingdom, the

1488
01:31:13,039 --> 01:31:17,319
animal kingdom, or the plant kingdom, or the human kingdom.

1489
01:31:18,359 --> 01:31:22,479
There are stories that are mind boggling where a person

1490
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:27,000
will actually get incarnated in some inanimate object in their

1491
01:31:27,079 --> 01:31:29,720
consciousness or in a leaf and they'll blow and this

1492
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,279
stuff sounds incredible, like how could you possibly put the

1493
01:31:32,319 --> 01:31:35,279
consciousness of human being into something like that? And then

1494
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:39,159
when that leaf dies, that is over with. I just

1495
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:41,960
I'll tell you a quick story that just happened to

1496
01:31:42,079 --> 01:31:46,000
me that is really amazing. My son went into an

1497
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:51,319
animal shelter about, oh, what was it, probably fift fourteen

1498
01:31:51,399 --> 01:31:54,520
years ago, and this beautiful little kitty was going to

1499
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,720
be killed and he just looked at it and said,

1500
01:31:57,760 --> 01:31:59,640
oh my god. Mom, and Daddy says, can I take

1501
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,159
it home? They're going to kill it? And I said, sure,

1502
01:32:02,359 --> 01:32:04,279
so bring her home. When we named her Katie, right,

1503
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:07,960
and that was a very unusual cat, and we always

1504
01:32:08,039 --> 01:32:10,600
kept her in the house and just the last few

1505
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:13,239
years here in California, we started letting her out and

1506
01:32:13,359 --> 01:32:17,760
I said, I'm worried about this cat. She's domesticated. Something's

1507
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:18,880
going to get her because we got a lot of

1508
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:21,720
coyotes where we live. And I was petting her on

1509
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:27,560
the couch about a year ago and she looked up

1510
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:31,039
at me, and I looked into her aura and I

1511
01:32:31,239 --> 01:32:34,600
saw this tortured soul inside of her, and I'm patting her,

1512
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:37,479
and I went, oh, my god, someone's in you. I

1513
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:40,840
could see this soul, this human soul. I could see it,

1514
01:32:41,399 --> 01:32:44,039
and I actually saw the eyes it through her and

1515
01:32:44,119 --> 01:32:47,079
I know what I saw, and I just had such

1516
01:32:47,119 --> 01:32:50,199
a change and I thought, Wow, what a tortured soul

1517
01:32:50,319 --> 01:32:54,279
inside of her. And then she would be outside. Well,

1518
01:32:55,000 --> 01:33:00,159
just about a week ago, our dog got sick. She

1519
01:33:01,399 --> 01:33:03,600
she had diarrhye and very gross. Anyways, we had to

1520
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:05,399
clean it up in the bedroom because she sleeps in

1521
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:08,760
the bedroom with us. And outside, I heard Katie, the cat,

1522
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:13,920
making these wild sounds and I let the dog out,

1523
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,720
and our dogs started barking like crazy, and I knew

1524
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:20,039
something's not right here, something really. The energy felt really

1525
01:33:20,199 --> 01:33:23,960
kind of demonic and strange. And I saw Katie flying

1526
01:33:24,119 --> 01:33:27,239
through the air and she grabs onto this tree and

1527
01:33:27,359 --> 01:33:31,319
then the dog was barking. It was very weird energy

1528
01:33:31,399 --> 01:33:33,800
and I know that's like demonic energy. I could tell.

1529
01:33:34,399 --> 01:33:36,239
And that was the last time we ever saw Katie.

1530
01:33:36,279 --> 01:33:40,119
And I then saw coyote right underneath the tree outside

1531
01:33:40,199 --> 01:33:42,239
the fence, and I think she came down and it

1532
01:33:42,319 --> 01:33:45,119
got her, and she's gone. And I actually looked at

1533
01:33:45,159 --> 01:33:47,520
a chart the cat's gone, and I think that soul

1534
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:51,359
was released. Now that sounds crazy, but if you look

1535
01:33:51,399 --> 01:33:54,439
at some of the ancient Egyptian, Tibet and Vedantic and

1536
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:58,840
rabbinical text, they'll talk about how cats have a very

1537
01:33:59,119 --> 01:34:06,199
interesting parallel of imbuing souls at times. That's why cats

1538
01:34:06,239 --> 01:34:09,680
have always been said they're mysterious, they're very strange. And

1539
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,680
I know Katie and we miss her so much because

1540
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:14,880
I know she was killed and I heard it. I

1541
01:34:15,239 --> 01:34:16,920
heard and I couldn't get to her because it was

1542
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:19,359
outside the fence. I heard it, and then God she

1543
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:23,720
died quickly. But death, they actually say, is a purification.

1544
01:34:24,319 --> 01:34:26,640
And you know, to those who want to end their

1545
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:28,960
lives early, I would say, do not do that, because

1546
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:32,600
God has a plan for when we are to vacate

1547
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:36,680
this body. And I think it's very important that we

1548
01:34:37,079 --> 01:34:41,399
live out our lives and get this releasement because a

1549
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:44,479
lot of evil souls, you know, they may escape the

1550
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:47,920
courts of human beings, but from what I see in astrology,

1551
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:52,279
we're not going to escape the divine court. They actually say,

1552
01:34:52,359 --> 01:34:55,479
angels beat the heck out of us when we lie

1553
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:57,880
in front of the celestial court when we're brought there.

1554
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:03,239
And food is to be blessed to release souls, they say,

1555
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:08,560
in salads and meats or whatever else your diet is,

1556
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:12,760
you're supposed to bless the food to release any spiritual

1557
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:15,000
energy that's on it, so it doesn't come in you.

1558
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:18,159
So you know, only thank you God for the food.

1559
01:35:18,279 --> 01:35:21,960
You're blessing it to release any energies on it. And

1560
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:27,439
there's you say, I like the cabalistic stuff, and I'll

1561
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:30,079
tell you why. There are rabbinical texts that I have.

1562
01:35:30,279 --> 01:35:36,079
They're called unifications and purifications where you can actually unify

1563
01:35:36,239 --> 01:35:42,319
fragments of your soul through certain very deep numerological prayers

1564
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:47,079
and permutations. And then there's also what they call unifications

1565
01:35:47,119 --> 01:35:50,880
where you can unify with certain angelic forces and saints.

1566
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:53,039
Very fascinating stuff.

1567
01:35:54,039 --> 01:35:57,359
Speaker 3: We can talk about that. Yeah, yeah, there's so much

1568
01:35:57,439 --> 01:35:59,640
to talk about it. And I think there's you know,

1569
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:01,640
I think we have a lot of pieces of truth,

1570
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:04,439
you know that. I think it's enough for us to

1571
01:36:05,279 --> 01:36:08,039
you know that that actually leads us into discovery, to

1572
01:36:08,159 --> 01:36:11,079
ask the questions or to try things. I mean, I

1573
01:36:11,199 --> 01:36:13,439
can't tell you, I mean how I know it sounds crazy,

1574
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:16,239
but trying to communicate with my animals as well, like hey,

1575
01:36:16,399 --> 01:36:18,479
are you a person? Just want to know, like if

1576
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:21,840
you are you you know, cognitive, do you remember English?

1577
01:36:22,079 --> 01:36:24,840
Like all of these things. And then even like I

1578
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:27,680
had one dog who man, she was the cutest little

1579
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:33,399
puppy and uh we uh uh she had a she

1580
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:36,359
was vicious though, cutest little dog, but vicious. I mean

1581
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:39,479
she would just attack other animals. Her name was Casey

1582
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:42,880
and we called her Katie. That's interesting, you said, But

1583
01:36:43,199 --> 01:36:45,520
I remember, like because she had this anger that she

1584
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:49,159
was just attacked, man, And I remember burning sage around her,

1585
01:36:49,279 --> 01:36:52,600
and she like she did not like it, like she

1586
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:55,560
would panic, but the other dogs would be okay. But

1587
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:57,960
I would hold the sage close to her and try

1588
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,039
to like pray over her or see if they it

1589
01:37:00,159 --> 01:37:02,000
was a demon that needed to come out, because she

1590
01:37:02,199 --> 01:37:05,560
was the cutest little animal. And but yeah, it just

1591
01:37:06,039 --> 01:37:09,439
you know, makes you ask the bigger questions and just

1592
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:12,399
to try it, like you never know, you feel silly

1593
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:14,920
doing it, you know, but what if you know, I

1594
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:17,760
think like Jesus, like spinning in the ground and making

1595
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:21,319
the mud and putting in somebody's eyes, like seems silly,

1596
01:37:21,399 --> 01:37:23,000
right if one of our friends did that, But what

1597
01:37:23,159 --> 01:37:25,720
if the person gets healed after he does it, Like,

1598
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:28,479
hold on, there's some kind of alchemy. He knew something,

1599
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:30,840
there was some kind of connection with his faith with

1600
01:37:31,039 --> 01:37:33,680
that mud, or something was going on that he understood.

1601
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:35,640
And so if you don't try it, if you don't

1602
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:39,239
step out after having these experiences, whether it's the UFO

1603
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:43,199
or ghost or ancestors or anything like that, it'll just

1604
01:37:43,279 --> 01:37:45,840
be something that's fleeting. But I think it goes to

1605
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:49,239
show someone like yourself, someone like me and many others

1606
01:37:49,279 --> 01:37:52,600
who I would say have been privileged to have many

1607
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:57,640
experiences versus some people who haven't had any in their

1608
01:37:57,840 --> 01:37:59,920
entire life, at least they're not cognitive of it. But

1609
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:02,560
how can some people not have any? And then we

1610
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,319
go on to have like every day is a magical

1611
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:10,159
experience and expectancy of entities and angels and aliens and

1612
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:12,920
UFOs and those things. And so I think that just

1613
01:38:13,319 --> 01:38:16,319
taking that step out, you know, to say hello, or

1614
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:20,600
to try to find that repeatability, if you will, with

1615
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:25,239
the different realms that we're in contact with throughout the day.

1616
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we all have them. I think it's

1617
01:38:30,039 --> 01:38:32,880
just a matter of being open to them. You know,

1618
01:38:33,279 --> 01:38:37,520
I mentioned doctor Carl Wickland. He absolutely did not believe

1619
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:42,159
in anything spiritual. Here's a died in the world psychiatrist.

1620
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:44,479
In order to be psychiatrists, you first have to be

1621
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:49,319
a medical doctor. And then after he became a medical doctor,

1622
01:38:49,359 --> 01:38:54,640
he went, you know, into psychiatry. And during his internship,

1623
01:38:54,800 --> 01:39:01,199
he said, they were doing dissection on cadavers and there's

1624
01:39:01,239 --> 01:39:04,000
all kinds of paranormal things like the papers would blow

1625
01:39:04,039 --> 01:39:08,560
eat her voices of the person's spirit that was next

1626
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:10,159
to the body they were working on. And he just

1627
01:39:10,239 --> 01:39:13,800
pooh poohed that that stuff's nonsense. Right, And so doctor

1628
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:17,640
Carl Wickland moved to Los Angeles, I think this is

1629
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:20,199
nineteen eighteen, don't quote me, it's in the book, and

1630
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:25,800
talk about psychics and spirit and channels. As fate would

1631
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,119
have it, he went to a party and met this

1632
01:39:28,239 --> 01:39:33,560
beautiful woman, became smitten with her and wanted to marry her. Right, well,

1633
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:37,000
here's a guy who didn't believe in anything spiritual, nothing

1634
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:40,760
out of the norm. And what is she She's a channel,

1635
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:48,439
She's a spiritual psychic channel, and apparently because of his

1636
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:51,479
love for her and he respected, you know that she

1637
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:56,279
was very intelligent, he later undertook a very detailed scientific

1638
01:39:56,359 --> 01:39:59,359
analysis as to whether she was crazy or not. And

1639
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:01,680
this is all in the book. And I'm paraphrasing, of course,

1640
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:04,119
so if I'm not one hundred percent accurate, anyone could

1641
01:40:04,119 --> 01:40:08,439
get the book and read it. And the story was

1642
01:40:09,199 --> 01:40:13,279
he had I've got to remember this is the late teens,

1643
01:40:13,359 --> 01:40:15,880
early twenties. This is before recording, you know, this is

1644
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,640
back you know when you had the dictaphone just coming

1645
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:22,319
in from Thomas Edison, you know. So he apparently he

1646
01:40:22,399 --> 01:40:25,640
had someone taking shorthand or something. It's in the book.

1647
01:40:26,039 --> 01:40:30,119
And what happened was his wife took in a spirit

1648
01:40:31,039 --> 01:40:33,760
who looked at doctor Carl Wickland. And by the way,

1649
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:36,199
I didn't mention this. Doctor Carl Wickland is the guy

1650
01:40:36,319 --> 01:40:39,319
who popularized shock therapy treatment, which is being used to

1651
01:40:39,359 --> 01:40:42,000
this day. Some hideous stuff, right, Why did they use

1652
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:45,640
shock therapy treatment? Well, when people get schizophrenic or they

1653
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:49,840
get multiple personality disorder, there when they shock them, it

1654
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:54,039
somehow changes it. Well, here's why. It drives out the

1655
01:40:54,239 --> 01:41:00,560
possessing entity and oftentimes they are disincarnate souls rather than monics,

1656
01:41:01,119 --> 01:41:03,960
and which we would call dead people or ghosts. Right. Well,

1657
01:41:04,159 --> 01:41:07,479
so here's here's the way this all came about. This book.

1658
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:12,359
Doctor Carl Wickland is listening and this person in his

1659
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:14,720
wife's body said, you're the one who's been shocking me

1660
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:16,720
with that body. And he says, well, what do you mean?

1661
01:41:17,399 --> 01:41:19,600
And the person says, well, don't you remember you You

1662
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:22,119
came out with these probes and you were hitting me

1663
01:41:22,199 --> 01:41:25,840
with this lightning. And then the person began to describe

1664
01:41:26,039 --> 01:41:28,720
in grave detail all the things that went wrong. I

1665
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:31,600
guess something really went wrong and things were knocked over,

1666
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,239
and the person went crazy and he said, there's no

1667
01:41:34,359 --> 01:41:37,319
way you could know this, all these details and what

1668
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:39,159
I said to you unless you were there. And the

1669
01:41:39,239 --> 01:41:41,560
person says, well, of course I was there. And he says,

1670
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:43,319
by any chance, do you wear a wedding ring and

1671
01:41:43,359 --> 01:41:45,279
a dress? And he looked down and he said no.

1672
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:47,760
He says, but oh my god, you're right, I'm controlling

1673
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:50,159
someone who has a wedding ring and a dress. He says, well,

1674
01:41:50,199 --> 01:41:54,000
apparently you're dead as people know it, and you're possessing

1675
01:41:54,079 --> 01:41:57,680
my wife's body. And the guy said well, that makes

1676
01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:00,439
sense because nobody listens to me anymore. And I apparently

1677
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:03,359
he was owned a drug store and all his employees

1678
01:42:03,359 --> 01:42:05,199
couldn't hear him anymore because he was a ghost. He

1679
01:42:05,319 --> 01:42:07,640
was literally running around trying to talk to people. A

1680
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:10,079
lot of folks don't even know they're dead from many

1681
01:42:10,159 --> 01:42:12,560
of these reports. And I find the same thing when

1682
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:15,199
I do clearing on properties and people. A lot of

1683
01:42:15,239 --> 01:42:20,159
these I've seen literally people from four hundred years ago

1684
01:42:20,279 --> 01:42:23,960
still dwelling on properties that they don't even know they're dead.

1685
01:42:24,279 --> 01:42:26,279
They're guarding the place. You know, They're just in their

1686
01:42:26,359 --> 01:42:30,479
own psychoanoetic dimension, if you will, If anybody wants to

1687
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:33,359
read about some of this stuff. One of my favorite books.

1688
01:42:33,399 --> 01:42:35,159
Have you ever heard of The Magus of Stroblos?

1689
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:36,159
Speaker 3: I have not.

1690
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:41,600
Speaker 1: It's an amazing text. He's a Christian mystic who lived

1691
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:45,159
on the island of Cyprus. He lived in the city

1692
01:42:45,199 --> 01:42:47,880
of Strobolos, and I encourage anyone to read that book

1693
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,239
if anyone wants to question whether or not we're spiritual

1694
01:42:51,279 --> 01:42:54,000
beings having a physical experience, and that book will blow

1695
01:42:54,359 --> 01:42:58,600
your hairbag. The truths in that will blow your hairback.

1696
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:01,840
It's one of my favorite texts commend he's now gone.

1697
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:05,680
He died in two thousand and one, but his work

1698
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,600
is carried on by many. But he was amazing, and

1699
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:12,800
he back to doctor Carl Wicklan. He talked about how

1700
01:43:14,279 --> 01:43:17,039
the person in his wife's body, you know, no one

1701
01:43:17,079 --> 01:43:20,279
could hear him. And he then saw his mother who

1702
01:43:20,359 --> 01:43:23,039
had died like forty fifty years earlier, and he said,

1703
01:43:23,039 --> 01:43:26,439
oh my god, there's my mom. And so in dialogue,

1704
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:29,560
the doctor got this disincarnate soul to leave his wife's

1705
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:32,960
body and go off into the light. And here's what's

1706
01:43:33,199 --> 01:43:37,000
the clincher. The patient in the PS psychiatric ward in

1707
01:43:37,079 --> 01:43:42,479
Los Angeles cleared up, no more multiple personality disorder, no

1708
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:46,880
more psychotic reactions. And he ended up discharging a very

1709
01:43:47,199 --> 01:43:50,840
short time afterwards. And that was the beginning of thirty

1710
01:43:51,079 --> 01:43:55,840
years of research among disincarnate souls through his wife channeling.

1711
01:43:56,279 --> 01:43:58,960
And I encourage anyone to read that because it is

1712
01:43:59,239 --> 01:44:03,239
an amazingly well written texts that went out of print

1713
01:44:03,319 --> 01:44:07,079
I think in the seventies and now it's back in print.

1714
01:44:07,199 --> 01:44:11,079
It's uh. I've talked to many psychiatrists. I have a

1715
01:44:11,119 --> 01:44:15,560
lot of clients who are in psychiatchiatry and psychology in prisons,

1716
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:19,119
and we discussed things in data ch astrology and other

1717
01:44:19,239 --> 01:44:23,640
types about cycles and why certain souls are doing what

1718
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:25,880
they're doing, and very fascinating stuff.

1719
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:28,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm into.

1720
01:44:30,199 --> 01:44:30,359
Speaker 1: You know.

1721
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 3: I approach it from the Christian mystic or Hebrew perspective

1722
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:37,960
as well. And so when I first started out, I

1723
01:44:38,079 --> 01:44:43,720
got into summoning spirits and all types of different magic.

1724
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:47,000
I was combining a bunch and ended up getting possessed,

1725
01:44:47,039 --> 01:44:50,319
if you will, and almost lost my mind and things

1726
01:44:50,399 --> 01:44:52,720
like that. And this was back That's what happens that

1727
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:55,960
I ended up coming back home and like crying out

1728
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,560
to God for help, and it was through church and

1729
01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:00,600
prayer and Jesus and things like that I was able

1730
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:03,079
to find solace. And so there's a right way and

1731
01:45:03,159 --> 01:45:07,800
the wrong way to dance with the other realms. We're

1732
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:10,800
I think we are dancing with them, whether we know

1733
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:13,479
it or not. Right, some people are just victims and

1734
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:15,439
other people are victors. When it comes to it, I

1735
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:17,680
think it comes down to whether you know it or

1736
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:20,359
not plays a big role. So then you can learn

1737
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:23,760
maybe some of the rules of engagement astrology, right, some

1738
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:26,880
of the ancient texts and demons and how they operate, angels,

1739
01:45:27,279 --> 01:45:29,000
all of that. So that's where it comes in for

1740
01:45:29,159 --> 01:45:31,239
me and many other people who are intrigued. But there

1741
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:33,640
is a right way and the wrong way to do it,

1742
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:36,920
and possession is very real, you know, and very real.

1743
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:39,720
Speaker 1: Oh that's an interesting background you've got.

1744
01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:42,159
Speaker 3: There, trying to help people navigate through this, Like you

1745
01:45:42,239 --> 01:45:44,840
don't want to just do the Christian approach and just

1746
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:48,720
say don't mess with anything at all. It's all demonics,

1747
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:51,319
stay away from it, because it's not like it's our birthright.

1748
01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:54,680
We are these spiritual beings, but it's about you know,

1749
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:56,920
I don't want to stifle exploration, but we have to

1750
01:45:57,039 --> 01:45:58,560
use precaution in things as well.

1751
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:04,079
Speaker 1: Well. That's an interesting topic you bring up there, because

1752
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:12,119
I was exposed to some really rural folks back in

1753
01:46:12,199 --> 01:46:16,840
the eighties and I was warned angelically not to get

1754
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:19,680
involved with it, and they were approaching me. We've all

1755
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:23,680
been around these cults, these different things, and I also

1756
01:46:24,119 --> 01:46:26,199
was working and I don't want to mention any names

1757
01:46:26,359 --> 01:46:30,239
or sex or religions that I've studied and been around,

1758
01:46:30,359 --> 01:46:33,640
and I've always been warned stay at a distance, look

1759
01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:37,600
from the distance, don't get in there. But look and see.

1760
01:46:38,319 --> 01:46:40,920
And I was like prying the lid back and looking

1761
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:44,279
in and studying some of their documents and texts, but

1762
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:51,359
not getting engaged. One of the things that is exceedingly dangerous,

1763
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:56,000
like a nocchi and magic, the Keys of Solomon, the

1764
01:46:56,079 --> 01:46:59,359
Lesser Greater Keys, all these the Golden Dawn, Golden Dawn

1765
01:46:59,399 --> 01:47:03,039
everyone knows about. Of course, as we know, the Golden

1766
01:47:03,119 --> 01:47:07,560
Dawn was really created by a e. Wait and Mathers

1767
01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:09,920
and I think one other individual finding a bunch of

1768
01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:12,159
books in a bookstall in London. That's how the Golden

1769
01:47:12,199 --> 01:47:14,960
Non came about in the eighteen hundreds. And everybody thinks, oh,

1770
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:17,840
they were all these great mystics. Well they might have been,

1771
01:47:18,079 --> 01:47:22,720
but they stumbled onto these documents and texts, which interestingly enough,

1772
01:47:23,279 --> 01:47:25,800
was from a lady out of Germany. Now go back

1773
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:28,680
to Hitler, go back to Germany and all the occult

1774
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:33,319
stuff that's gone on there. Germany's a very interesting little place.

1775
01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:37,560
I mean, it's created two World wars, but a cult wise,

1776
01:47:38,079 --> 01:47:41,000
let's take Luther. Let's just take the Christian religion. Do

1777
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:44,479
you ever hear the City of Worms in Germany? It's

1778
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:47,520
an amazing little city. That's where Luther was tried for

1779
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:51,560
hear see there the Romans sent a brigade of Roman

1780
01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:55,479
soldiers and killed every man, woman and child by the sword,

1781
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:59,359
take them out because they believed that Jesus was the

1782
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:02,600
son of God rather than God. That's been pretty harsh

1783
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:05,680
treatment there. So when we look at the dogma that

1784
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:10,399
has been inflicted upon different societies, I mean, the same

1785
01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:13,199
thing happened in Spain with the expulsion of the Jews,

1786
01:48:13,279 --> 01:48:16,199
with the whole thing. So we look back in history,

1787
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:19,680
this is strong arm stuff, just like we're seeing now,

1788
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:22,680
this strong arming on political sides. And I don't want

1789
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:24,760
to get into politics and who's right and who's wrong,

1790
01:48:25,239 --> 01:48:28,039
but this is the astrology showing this right now that

1791
01:48:28,199 --> 01:48:33,039
we are at a critical crisis point of change in

1792
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:37,399
many of the dogmas in society. And this is why

1793
01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:42,119
we're seeing this clash here between many different factions around

1794
01:48:42,159 --> 01:48:45,600
the world, not just in the United States. And what's

1795
01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:51,039
fascinating is Germany was so full of occult stuff that

1796
01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:56,960
in magic. See, one of my favorite guys was Rabbi Maharel.

1797
01:48:57,399 --> 01:49:02,079
He lived in the thirteen hundreds and many people will

1798
01:49:02,159 --> 01:49:05,119
know him by the text The Sacred Magic of Abramel

1799
01:49:05,199 --> 01:49:08,720
and the Age. I'm sure you've heard of that, right, Yeah, yeah,

1800
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:15,039
very very fascinating text. But those texts are are astounding.

1801
01:49:15,319 --> 01:49:17,720
And this is all about getting your guardian angel to

1802
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:21,079
come to you. And uh, you know this, this is deep,

1803
01:49:21,159 --> 01:49:26,000
deep stuff, very dangerous stuff when people go down these paths.

1804
01:49:26,359 --> 01:49:32,359
And thank God, literally we are protected by the angelic forces,

1805
01:49:32,399 --> 01:49:34,920
so we wouldn't be drawing breath, nothing would exist.

1806
01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:40,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost. What what I found is that these entities,

1807
01:49:42,239 --> 01:49:45,079
you know, they will exchange information and power and things

1808
01:49:45,199 --> 01:49:49,119
like that, renown but in exchange for something, right, there's

1809
01:49:49,119 --> 01:49:51,239
always something that you have to pay, right, it's a

1810
01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:56,119
whether it's a blood covenant, blood sacrifice or something, or

1811
01:49:56,199 --> 01:49:58,119
even like a trinket like I just I wear this

1812
01:49:58,359 --> 01:50:02,199
ring because not so now that entity has a physical

1813
01:50:02,239 --> 01:50:06,880
representation in the physical world through you. But what I've

1814
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:08,680
seen for the most part is they want to live

1815
01:50:08,720 --> 01:50:11,159
within your psyche, they want to live within the mind

1816
01:50:11,279 --> 01:50:12,319
and so causes.

1817
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:15,359
Speaker 1: They want to suck off your energy things like that.

1818
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:18,399
Speaker 3: So it never it never ends, well, especially when there's

1819
01:50:18,399 --> 01:50:21,520
a clever way to do it, like to receive higher information,

1820
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:25,640
beautiful clean information, right, I do think that that's possible

1821
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:28,399
as well from the angelic, from the uh not having

1822
01:50:28,479 --> 01:50:31,920
to you know, deal with the lower level entities which

1823
01:50:32,039 --> 01:50:35,600
are so easily accessible. It seems like it seems like

1824
01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:38,520
that you have to have a lifestyle of things that

1825
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:41,760
you can and cannot do to access the higher realms.

1826
01:50:42,159 --> 01:50:47,359
Whether it's lying, cheating, stealing, debauchery, murder, drunkenness and things

1827
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:49,520
like that that are all attached to the lower level

1828
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:50,439
entities and things.

1829
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they do. They influence a lot of this.

1830
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:59,279
I've had that discussion with psychiatrists and prisons where you know,

1831
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:02,800
we've literally said, you know, there's possession going on here,

1832
01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:05,920
and you know they can't enter that into the secular

1833
01:51:06,039 --> 01:51:08,600
left brain world of psychiatry. You know, you can't put

1834
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:10,600
in a report while we think this person is best.

1835
01:51:11,479 --> 01:51:14,159
But I mean, Charles Manson was a perfect example. I

1836
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:17,359
factually I knew one of the Federal Asians that had

1837
01:51:17,399 --> 01:51:20,319
worked on that. He was quite old, and in fact

1838
01:51:20,479 --> 01:51:23,399
I met him up in Majave Motorcycling here about five

1839
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:27,600
years ago or no Pismo Beach, and he was saying,

1840
01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:29,319
he said, Jeff, I've been in that cell. He said

1841
01:51:29,359 --> 01:51:32,119
that dude is possessed. He said, there you can feel it,

1842
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:36,279
and this is the danger of the occult. And this

1843
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:39,239
is where I think a lot of religions are correct

1844
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:42,159
that if you stick to God, and I really believe

1845
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:46,079
one central thing, there is one God, you know, and

1846
01:51:46,359 --> 01:51:50,600
all of the rest is subservient angelic forces. And the

1847
01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:55,159
story of the demonic fall really seems to be true.

1848
01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:58,760
And it seems to be that our souls got intertwined

1849
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:01,880
with portions and fragments of this, and that's the purpose

1850
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:04,920
of Earth is to repurify that. You know. There's many

1851
01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:07,600
theories and this is so deep stuff I don't claim,

1852
01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:10,159
and no one I've ever heard has had the direct answer.

1853
01:52:10,279 --> 01:52:14,520
But my theory at this point is that this particular

1854
01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:18,239
three dimensional five cents reality, even though it's many more

1855
01:52:18,279 --> 01:52:23,199
dimensions than three, is a place where we get to

1856
01:52:23,359 --> 01:52:27,720
come experience the egoic sense of free will, and then

1857
01:52:28,319 --> 01:52:31,880
come back. There's an ancient story that I love where

1858
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:34,760
the angels, the upper angels, and the thrones were talking

1859
01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:36,520
to God and they said, what the heck did you?

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Why do you support these humans? You know, it's only

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do they go down there, they kill each other. They

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don't believe in creation. They don't even know we exist.

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They're just horrible and why do you support this? And

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God said yes. But they come back. They come back,

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They come back with the experience of what evil is

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and what the other side is, and they become more

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holy because of it. Now, some souls get lost, they

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actually say a lot of souls. That is. The prize

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of a demon is to get a soul to go

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into deep magic sacrifices, and you can actually lose the soul.

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You know, one of my favorite little texts anybody can

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read this, it's called the screw Tape Letters by the

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wonderful writer C. S. Lewis, who wrote you know, Narnia,

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and C. S. Lewis was really into astrology and in

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the right way. He looked at it for what it is.

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It's just the path of the soul. And in the

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Screwtape Letters there's a great story about this little demon. Uncle,

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one of my human subjects has just joined the religion

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and I don't know what to do. We could lose

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them to the enemy. Ah, I don't worry about a thing,

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my friend. We've taken good care of the religions. We've

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neuted it all. We've possessed those that were in control,

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and all these little books that someone come bustling up

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is really about us. But nobody can really figure out anymore.

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And so don't worry about the religion. They all sit

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in the pews, and notice how they're hypocritical on you know,

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the rest of the week, and then they come in

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and act all holy and now on Sunday, and you

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treat each other like crap the rest of the week.

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So it's a really it's a book written in satire.

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But what I love is the opening. He says, I

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cannot tell you where this book came from. I cannot

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tell you his factor fiction. Just read the book and

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understand where it goes. And I always, I always enjoyed

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that book. It's a great book.

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Speaker 3: There's a there's a Christian writing, and I'm pretty pretty

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sure it came from that. I don't know if you've

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ever read it, though, but it's a It's a book

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called The Final Quest by Rick Joyner. Have you heard

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of that.

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Speaker 1: I've heard of it, but I have not read it.

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Speaker 3: Very so many books, yeah, yeah, yeah, very similar with

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the uh looking at the demonic chords and how they

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interact with humanity. But it's written as a just a

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01:54:48,239 --> 01:54:52,000
work of just analogy and metaphor of the spirit world

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and how it's happening. But he I'm pretty sure it

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was a I want to say, a rip off, but

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it was definitely influenced by by the Screwtape letters and

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I still have and read that. I need to read that.

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That's what I'm doing here.

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Speaker 1: Get the Magas of Strugglers. You you will absolutely adore

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that book.

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Speaker 3: It's it is everybody mentioned and I don't know why

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I haven't read it yet, so I'm going to get

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it probably right when we get off of here. That's

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one thing that You've definitely blessed us with on this

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There's a lot of different reference points and I'm writing

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down some for myself, some of these different cabalistic texts

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to check out and stuff as well. That's what a

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lot of people get a gym of something that resonated

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with them through something that you said, especially when we

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cover so many topics like we do on here, something

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that they're like, hey, what is that book? Let me

1924
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check that out, or let me check out astrology or

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vedic astrology. I mean, how many people don't that are listening,

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didn't even know that that was an actual thing. We

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like most of us, just think that there's only one

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form of astrology, stay away from it, and that's it.

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You knows all types of different astrologies and levels and

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all of that stuff too. So yeah, so much to

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choose from. Again, Man, hey, I really enjoyed this. Anytime

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you want to out with me, man, I'm over to

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it and I'll send you a.

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Speaker 1: Well you're you're a good soul, no question about that.

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed it, and I.

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Speaker 1: Think it's great you're doing the work you're doing. I mean,

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and I think I think your message. I love your

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story about how you played with magic and you got

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possessed every single every single client.

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Speaker 3: And I've had.

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Speaker 1: Clients who've been in some really dark places in vedic astrology.

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Blow your here back. I'll never forget. Well. I don't

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want to mention too much on air, but I had

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one client come in to in particular. I said, oh

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my god, I said, what happened to you right at

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this time? Tears would poor? You wouldn't believe it, I said,

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try me, I might. Now, how would I know that? Okay,

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it's not my genius, it's vedic astrology. And it takes

1949
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years to learn this, but this person was in a horrible,

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horrible dawsha with horrible aspects. So this God isn't sitting

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in the sky making you or me tall or short

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of fat and intelligent, you know whatever, loving or hateful.

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It's our souls that do it. And the astrology mirrors that. Well.

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This person was actually involved in a Satanic sacrifice and

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I saw it in the chart and the tears were pouring.

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She was actually impregnated and she had the child and

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was forced to sacrifice it. I've seen this now two

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or three times now. This stuff is hideous. But when

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you speak about demons and magic and the dangers of this,

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this is where this stuff goes. And people have to

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know this where and all these stories that we hear

1962
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on the internet about you know, the Pizzagate and all

1963
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this stuff. I hate to say it, and I wish

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I were wrong, but I think it's true. And this

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is the hideous dark paths that happen when people play

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around with magic, and just like yourself, you, whatever your

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belief in God is, it can save you. And I

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urge people to not go down that path. I've had

1969
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so many clients who there's prayers that I give out

1970
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in readings when I see these yogas to help people

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not only purify their own karmic journey, but their families.

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And I'm not just talking mom and Dad and Grappa

1973
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and Grandma. I'm talking about your family of soul lineage,

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which is really sacred stuff, and it involves a lot

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of these secrets in the scriptures and the psalms. And

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it's true you mentioned the christ energies. I mean, if

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we could ever get to the bottom of what really

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happened there, I mean, that's why I urge you to

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read The Magasin of Struggles. You'll see just how mystical

1980
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and sacredly magic this stuff. Is it true sacred holy magic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they were some deep individuals, Tolkien and C. S. Lewis,

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Like they all learned from the mystics of old and

1983
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like they were into some deep stuff like they I

1984
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think they really understood. And so a lot of the

1985
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people that you know, I'm influenced by some of the

1986
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Jordan Maxwell's or the Michael Serien which and those kind

1987
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of guys. They're definitely influenced by the Tolkiens and the C.

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S Lewis and those guys. So they were onto some

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stuff man, especially, you know, but being able to tell

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it in a story like that, like if you was

1991
01:59:15,039 --> 01:59:17,359
just to tell like sit down and hey, we're being

1992
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attacked by demons right now, Like people gonna think you're crazy.

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But then you put it in a movie. You're talking

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about the technology and what we have right now, and

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it would be hard for us to fathom. Just watch

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Star Wars. Just watch Star Wars and we you know

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what I'm saying, So we have that stuff, that technology,

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even them Like communing with the dead in Star Wars.

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That was a big one for me. Like there was

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a part and I forgot what episode it was. But

2001
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at the end, Yoda was going to teach who is this,

2002
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uh the disciple of Qui Gon who was it Obi Wan?

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01:59:55,199 --> 01:59:57,159
They're walking off into the sunset, and he said, come

2004
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with me. I got to show you some stuff. I

2005
01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:01,439
want to show you how to commune with your master

2006
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who is who's gone on to the other side. He's

2007
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like Qui God. He's like, yeah, I'm gonna teach you

2008
02:00:05,640 --> 02:00:08,760
how to do it. And so like that's something that

2009
02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:11,680
was practice all throughout religion and I'm even finding things

2010
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in the in the scriptures, in a New Testament, where

2011
02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:17,680
Jesus did similar things with his masters and stuff of

2012
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things that were echoed. And it's in our art, in literature. Obviously,

2013
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it's not in religion anymore. That's heresy to speak of

2014
02:00:25,159 --> 02:00:27,399
that in the in the churches now, but it's within

2015
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the movies, and it's within a lot of these ancient

2016
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texts like you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Sure, Sure, I have a client. He wrote a book

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that is the Missing Years of Christ that they believe

2019
02:00:40,119 --> 02:00:44,359
could possibly have been in India and paralleling. That's why

2020
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the Magas of Struggles you'll find so interesting to people

2021
02:00:48,199 --> 02:00:52,079
who read it. He's nicknamed Doscolos. Doscalos just means Greece.

2022
02:00:52,359 --> 02:00:56,840
It's the Grecian name for teacher, and he is. When

2023
02:00:56,920 --> 02:01:01,239
you read Doscolos, he's a Christian mystic, clearly, but he

2024
02:01:01,479 --> 02:01:06,199
also speaks with great reverence to all the other religions.

2025
02:01:06,279 --> 02:01:09,680
And he said a term that I believe is very correct.

2026
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He said, trying to figure out God is like trying

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to figure out a multifaceted diamond. You won't, you will not.

2028
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In fact, the more I learn about all this stuff,

2029
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the more humble I get, and the more I realize

2030
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that we're with these things called gray matter. You will

2031
02:01:24,119 --> 02:01:27,720
never figure it out from an intellectually deductive reasoning standpoint.

2032
02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:30,399
You will never figure it all out. From a spiritual one.

2033
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You can receive how divine and vast it is. And

2034
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wisdom is much different than logic. You know, logic, we're

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all trained to get a job and get a degree

2036
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and follow all the rules, which is all great. But

2037
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wisdom is another portion of the psyche and the consciousness

2038
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that is much much different than deductive reasoning and logic.

2039
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And I think that's again what many of the ancients,

2040
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particularly the bat and India, talked about Muksha was enlightenment.

2041
02:02:03,119 --> 02:02:06,520
This is maybe many of the references that we see

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in Rabbinical texts and Christian texts is the world's beyond

2043
02:02:11,479 --> 02:02:15,560
is where we commune and know, where the higher self

2044
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is much broader than the lower intellectual mind will ever be.

2045
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We can never go there in an intellectual sense. It

2046
02:02:23,520 --> 02:02:26,039
always ends up in ego, and it will always end

2047
02:02:26,119 --> 02:02:29,479
up in some logical deduction of what it is, what

2048
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:31,720
does it mean? And you know, all of us are

2049
02:02:31,760 --> 02:02:35,800
seeking the truth. And I think when we look at

2050
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it from that viewpoint. It's a much safer place to go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I like how you mentioned the diamond. I got

2052
02:02:43,239 --> 02:02:45,159
a good friend of mine. Every time we do a

2053
02:02:45,199 --> 02:02:47,560
live with him, he pulls out the diamond. He's got

2054
02:02:47,600 --> 02:02:50,800
this deep breakdown of how we're all facets of that

2055
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:53,760
diamond and the color and the shape and the reflection,

2056
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and we can't see the other side unless we go

2057
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to that perspective, but then we're missing all the other sides.

2058
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So I think the diamond is definitely a beautiful perspective

2059
02:03:04,000 --> 02:03:08,520
of our individuality and our own perspective of the one. Like,

2060
02:03:08,600 --> 02:03:11,000
we're all still part of that diamond, but with these

2061
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different reflections, And so is your religion, so so is

2062
02:03:14,800 --> 02:03:17,640
your experience or your faith or whatever the case is.

2063
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Especially you're never gonna you're never gonna get to the

2064
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bottom of it, like you said, But I think that

2065
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I think that the bottom of it is love, though,

2066
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is universal love. I think that's like, that's the worldview

2067
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of responding with love, of answering with love to everything,

2068
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to all, to the people that wronged you, to to

2069
02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:36,680
your God, to your former self, to your childhood, to

2070
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the trauma, embracing the future with love and expectancy and

2071
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childlike faith. So I think that that that's at least

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some of the rules of engagement. And once you understand

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that love is what leads you and gives you grace

2074
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to look into some of the deeper truths and mysteries

2075
02:03:51,640 --> 02:03:54,079
and uh, and not to look down on anything or

2076
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anyone else because that's their perspective or story. I think that, Uh.

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I think that opens you up to have more beautiful encounters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, stoicism comes to mind. You know a lot of

2079
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the really deep sacred places. I don't care if you're

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talking about the monks, or the Tibetans, or the Egyptians

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or the you know, certain classes, they certain groups they

2082
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would talk about stoicism where you know, when you negate

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the ego to where you're not so reactive. Like if

2084
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you ask someone, well, how do you feel when someone

2085
02:04:31,000 --> 02:04:34,199
hates you and calls you names and it's mean to you. Well,

2086
02:04:34,279 --> 02:04:37,079
nobody likes that, right. How do you feel when someone

2087
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praises you and tells you you're just so wonderful? Well,

2088
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everybody loves that one. Right, Pet's the ego. But stop

2089
02:04:43,159 --> 02:04:46,920
for a second and just think, like an airline pilot,

2090
02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:49,560
if you were fifty thousand feet above watching all of this,

2091
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and you kind of raise your consciousness in that vibration

2092
02:04:53,520 --> 02:04:55,520
and you say, well, Okay, someone hates you, someone loves you,

2093
02:04:55,600 --> 02:04:57,600
what does that really mean. That's their opinion of their

2094
02:04:57,640 --> 02:04:59,880
ego extensive self at that time, and not that we

2095
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:02,439
should all run around and be zombies or not be emotional,

2096
02:05:02,560 --> 02:05:06,039
because emotions are magical and they're wonderful and we have

2097
02:05:06,159 --> 02:05:08,800
a right to that. But I think when we stop

2098
02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:13,680
becoming so engaged in our egoic sense of self, we

2099
02:05:13,960 --> 02:05:16,960
bind with the upper levels of the soul. And that's

2100
02:05:17,079 --> 02:05:21,359
what they're speaking about. And see, if you read the

2101
02:05:21,439 --> 02:05:24,880
Magasu struggle, it's one of the most important things is elementals,

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02:05:25,359 --> 02:05:28,239
the third eye chakra. We look at people when we

2103
02:05:28,439 --> 02:05:31,560
look at them, but what we're really doing is projecting

2104
02:05:31,640 --> 02:05:35,279
out of the third eye etheric energy. Those are literally

2105
02:05:35,399 --> 02:05:38,920
thought for energies. If you've ever seen doctor Emoto's work,

2106
02:05:38,960 --> 02:05:43,439
you know, the Japanese scientist who messages in water. Yeah, yeah,

2107
02:05:43,479 --> 02:05:44,319
exactly amazing.

2108
02:05:44,640 --> 02:05:45,319
Speaker 3: So what did he do?

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Speaker 1: He had people pray over water and take a Petri

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02:05:48,079 --> 02:05:50,560
disk and he would, you know, freeze it. And to

2111
02:05:50,640 --> 02:05:52,319
the skeptics, I say, well, how could he have come

2112
02:05:52,399 --> 02:05:56,520
up with so many so diverse? All sacred thoughts had

2113
02:05:56,720 --> 02:06:02,000
varying shapes of sacred geometry, Worry, anger, feared, discord always

2114
02:06:02,039 --> 02:06:04,840
looks like gobbledegook. And you know, just for anybody who

2115
02:06:04,920 --> 02:06:06,920
hasn't seen, let me just take a second. I actually

2116
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:09,239
have a picture of a couple of his things that

2117
02:06:09,359 --> 02:06:12,720
I love to show people. You'll see here this is

2118
02:06:12,800 --> 02:06:17,960
it right being wrong there, So again here's an example.

2119
02:06:18,439 --> 02:06:21,800
And for anybody's interested, get you know, messages and water? Well,

2120
02:06:22,640 --> 02:06:26,159
what am I talking about here? Well, we emit out

2121
02:06:26,199 --> 02:06:31,800
of our third eye chakra elementals known as etheric energy.

2122
02:06:31,840 --> 02:06:33,960
Do you ever notice when someone's really really mad, that's

2123
02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:37,159
what they call the evil eye? Right, you're projecting very

2124
02:06:37,359 --> 02:06:40,600
angry elementals at someone, even though you don't know it.

2125
02:06:41,640 --> 02:06:45,359
In fact, our oric field, this is a whole subject

2126
02:06:45,399 --> 02:06:48,439
called physiogomy in the medieval times, which is, you know,

2127
02:06:48,520 --> 02:06:50,359
you look at a person, you can see what they're like.

2128
02:06:51,079 --> 02:06:54,560
You can detect right away before they open their mouths

2129
02:06:54,640 --> 02:06:57,880
a lot of what they're like. Though sometimes we can

2130
02:06:57,960 --> 02:06:59,960
be wrong. You can't always judge a book by its caver,

2131
02:07:00,520 --> 02:07:04,199
but in general you can see that they're stressed or

2132
02:07:04,239 --> 02:07:08,079
they've lived a life of bliss or happiness or stress

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02:07:08,159 --> 02:07:10,680
or anger. It shows up. I mean you can see

2134
02:07:10,680 --> 02:07:13,199
it on people and are heavy drinkers and smokers especially.

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02:07:13,520 --> 02:07:15,600
Not only is it the physical, but it's also the

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02:07:15,880 --> 02:07:20,600
energy that they permeated. So what's so fascinating is that

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02:07:22,239 --> 02:07:28,359
when I go into this, it's basically we project what

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02:07:28,520 --> 02:07:33,640
our lower egoic self believes. And this is why the

2139
02:07:33,720 --> 02:07:37,039
conscious mind is such a powerful tool. And I think

2140
02:07:37,079 --> 02:07:41,239
the more we realize that, the more we can direct

2141
02:07:41,359 --> 02:07:46,359
it to healthier ways of being conscious. You know what

2142
02:07:46,399 --> 02:07:49,159
I'm saying. The Megas of Crevelos is a wonderful book,

2143
02:07:49,439 --> 02:07:51,960
and those elementals there's an old saying, stiff necked in

2144
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:55,039
this world, you will be in the next. It's amazing

2145
02:07:55,159 --> 02:08:00,199
how much we take with us through these incarnations. What

2146
02:08:00,479 --> 02:08:05,000
we believe belief is a very interesting word. You know.

2147
02:08:05,319 --> 02:08:09,560
We tend to believe what we believe based on deductive reasoning,

2148
02:08:10,239 --> 02:08:12,439
but that's not truth and that's not true wisdom.

2149
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Speaker 3: You know, what do you think about Blavotsky's work on

2150
02:08:16,720 --> 02:08:19,199
the elementals or just her work in general, But I

2151
02:08:19,239 --> 02:08:21,840
think I think the elemental stuff is really interesting that

2152
02:08:21,920 --> 02:08:22,800
she brought to the table.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Blavotsky went that whole movement, started the spiritualist movement

2154
02:08:30,239 --> 02:08:34,079
in the eighteen hundreds, excuse me, and she went over

2155
02:08:34,159 --> 02:08:37,319
to India. I think a lot of her work was

2156
02:08:38,359 --> 02:08:41,359
regurgitated from what she picked up from many of the

2157
02:08:41,439 --> 02:08:43,479
yogi's there's a lot of truth to it. But I

2158
02:08:43,560 --> 02:08:50,279
also Leavotsky's work, I have it all. It kind of

2159
02:08:50,359 --> 02:08:53,279
left me a little cold. It's like there was too

2160
02:08:53,359 --> 02:08:55,479
much ego in it. And she actually came back. Believe

2161
02:08:55,479 --> 02:08:58,159
it or not, Doctor Kyl Wickland channeled her with his wife.

2162
02:08:58,439 --> 02:09:01,000
She came back and she admitted a lot of what

2163
02:09:01,760 --> 02:09:05,840
was given out was accurate, but it was regurgitated that

2164
02:09:06,079 --> 02:09:09,079
that she she felt that there was too much ego

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02:09:09,199 --> 02:09:11,560
in it. And but there are a lot of truths.

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02:09:11,600 --> 02:09:14,239
I mean, what's great about Blevatski's work is it's something

2167
02:09:14,279 --> 02:09:17,600
you can pick up and read. But I urge people

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02:09:17,680 --> 02:09:20,159
to read The Magus of Strolos because it is a

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02:09:20,319 --> 02:09:23,199
profound the profound work. And another one if you go

2170
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to stoas series dot com it's s t o A

2171
02:09:26,359 --> 02:09:29,760
e R series. Just STOA s t o A and

2172
02:09:29,840 --> 02:09:32,840
then series. You can get the book words of truth,

2173
02:09:33,520 --> 02:09:36,960
which in fact, people can google Dosclos on the internet.

2174
02:09:37,239 --> 02:09:39,319
You can. He's a little hard to understand because he's

2175
02:09:39,399 --> 02:09:42,279
very Grecian, so his English is a bit broken. But

2176
02:09:42,680 --> 02:09:46,000
the wisdom that comes through that man is astounding. That is,

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02:09:46,079 --> 02:09:49,159
you know that Doscolos, the Magus of Solos, is the

2178
02:09:49,359 --> 02:09:52,800
only written text I've ever seen where he had re

2179
02:09:53,359 --> 02:09:58,640
He reincarnated as a child and actually met Christ.

2180
02:10:00,119 --> 02:10:00,840
Speaker 3: That's in that text.

2181
02:10:00,920 --> 02:10:04,079
Speaker 1: It'll blow your hair back. And he was actually taken

2182
02:10:04,359 --> 02:10:07,159
by him when he died of gangrene. A Roman soldier

2183
02:10:07,279 --> 02:10:10,680
stamped on his foot and he got gangreen. As he

2184
02:10:10,840 --> 02:10:14,359
went back home, he said there was earthquakes. So it's interesting.

2185
02:10:14,520 --> 02:10:16,960
You know a lot of people ridicule the Christian myth.

2186
02:10:17,439 --> 02:10:19,279
I personally think it happened.

2187
02:10:19,319 --> 02:10:19,720
Speaker 3: I really do.

2188
02:10:20,399 --> 02:10:26,119
Speaker 1: And what I'm sad about is how twisted and blocked

2189
02:10:26,359 --> 02:10:29,439
the Church did. What they did to a lot of

2190
02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:35,399
the documents and the connectedness between the older texts of

2191
02:10:35,520 --> 02:10:40,159
the Torah of the ancient world. They just chopped it

2192
02:10:40,439 --> 02:10:45,840
and made it a very politicized, changed religion. Hence why

2193
02:10:45,920 --> 02:10:48,359
we've seen so many versions. We've seen the same thing

2194
02:10:48,399 --> 02:10:52,319
in Judaism and other religions and Hinduism. People get a

2195
02:10:52,359 --> 02:10:57,279
hold of these truths, they make them so dogmatic that

2196
02:10:57,560 --> 02:11:00,279
then someone breaks off like Buddha or you take Luther,

2197
02:11:00,680 --> 02:11:03,159
or you take you know, so many others that had

2198
02:11:03,239 --> 02:11:05,840
broken offrom the Christian religion and so many others in Judaism,

2199
02:11:05,920 --> 02:11:08,399
the same thing happened. You have the Hasidics, you have

2200
02:11:08,479 --> 02:11:12,560
the Stoics, you have the you know, the Orthodox, and

2201
02:11:13,119 --> 02:11:15,439
yet there's core truths in every one of them that

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02:11:15,479 --> 02:11:16,039
are magical.

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02:11:17,439 --> 02:11:20,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think with the Internet now and online

2204
02:11:20,720 --> 02:11:23,239
communities and groups like that, and you can literally either

2205
02:11:23,399 --> 02:11:26,039
pick and choose or piece together your own faith or

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02:11:26,079 --> 02:11:30,039
religion now because just by doing the research, and what

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02:11:30,119 --> 02:11:32,520
I mean by that is taking the good stuff from

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02:11:32,560 --> 02:11:35,399
every religion and just there, you know, getting rid of

2209
02:11:35,479 --> 02:11:37,279
all the bs, and I think we can make a

2210
02:11:37,399 --> 02:11:40,000
really cool religion we put all the good stuff together. Right.

2211
02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:42,119
So there's a lot of people doing that, and a

2212
02:11:42,159 --> 02:11:44,319
lot of people waking up and using the Internet to

2213
02:11:44,479 --> 02:11:48,680
kind of break away from some of the more traditional

2214
02:11:49,880 --> 02:11:55,199
Christian westernized understandings and looking back to the East. There's

2215
02:11:55,199 --> 02:11:57,279
a lot of Christians now looking to the East. They're

2216
02:11:57,399 --> 02:12:01,279
looking at Hinduism, and even kind of using that as

2217
02:12:01,319 --> 02:12:05,479
a filter to read the Bible even right of this

2218
02:12:06,159 --> 02:12:08,560
h you know, we talked about mountains and things like that.

2219
02:12:09,000 --> 02:12:12,600
You know, why was Jesus infatuated with going into a

2220
02:12:12,680 --> 02:12:14,720
mountain to prey and going on top of a mountain

2221
02:12:14,800 --> 02:12:17,399
to prey? Right where there's types of energies there that's

2222
02:12:17,439 --> 02:12:20,760
higher frequencies. And then we look at you know, some

2223
02:12:21,000 --> 02:12:23,479
people who may be Buddhist or Hindu, they literally go

2224
02:12:24,279 --> 02:12:26,520
into a mountain or to a cave and or on

2225
02:12:26,680 --> 02:12:29,279
top of a mountain what you know, in like the

2226
02:12:29,359 --> 02:12:31,479
Himalayas to meditate and praise. So we're seeing all these

2227
02:12:31,520 --> 02:12:36,239
different similarities within the Biblical text, and then it becomes

2228
02:12:36,399 --> 02:12:39,399
a little bit more spiritual for us because we have

2229
02:12:39,520 --> 02:12:43,560
some ways to interpret this through a Eastern lens versus

2230
02:12:44,079 --> 02:12:47,000
this westernized religion that we've all been kind of entrapped

2231
02:12:47,039 --> 02:12:50,039
into with Christianity anyway.

2232
02:12:50,520 --> 02:12:53,600
Speaker 1: Right, Well, George Carlin might have might not have been

2233
02:12:53,640 --> 02:12:55,199
too far off base when he said the best thing

2234
02:12:55,279 --> 02:12:57,199
that come out of the religions was the music, right,

2235
02:12:59,159 --> 02:13:01,439
But there's a lot of t Yeah, I mean great

2236
02:13:01,479 --> 02:13:05,800
respect for certain ones that don't get too dogmatic. I

2237
02:13:06,159 --> 02:13:11,760
love the Again, some of the richness in the messages

2238
02:13:11,840 --> 02:13:14,880
of souls and the old rabbinical texts are pretty profound.

2239
02:13:15,039 --> 02:13:18,479
They really are. You cannot make this stuff up, and

2240
02:13:18,600 --> 02:13:22,960
it's supported by the angelic hierarchies that actually can be

2241
02:13:23,119 --> 02:13:28,039
extrapolated into the heavens, the astrology, the souls, the journeys

2242
02:13:28,079 --> 02:13:30,560
of the souls, and you start seeing what astrology is

2243
02:13:30,600 --> 02:13:32,479
and what it isn't you know a lot of people

2244
02:13:32,600 --> 02:13:35,600
find in readings that you know, I'm actually telling them

2245
02:13:36,199 --> 02:13:39,119
that you're not your astrology, and they're very surprised at that.

2246
02:13:39,239 --> 02:13:42,039
I'm like, no, you free will You know, astrology doesn't

2247
02:13:42,119 --> 02:13:46,680
make you do anything. It influences you. And it's really

2248
02:13:47,039 --> 02:13:50,720
wonderful to look at what those influences are because here's

2249
02:13:50,800 --> 02:13:53,800
here's the magic right here, the sacred magic, and that

2250
02:13:54,079 --> 02:13:58,760
is if you understand that you have molific times or

2251
02:13:58,840 --> 02:14:03,000
transits going on, and you react to those in a

2252
02:14:03,079 --> 02:14:05,640
more conscious way, you're likely to do a lot better

2253
02:14:05,840 --> 02:14:09,479
than had you not known they were there. You know,

2254
02:14:09,560 --> 02:14:12,760
there's a reason the pope takes a bath and a bathtub.

2255
02:14:12,920 --> 02:14:17,000
Throughout history, they've busted popes constantly studying, especially the ancient

2256
02:14:17,000 --> 02:14:21,680
ones assiduously the ancient Egyptian and medieval astrology and Greek stuff,

2257
02:14:22,159 --> 02:14:26,239
and they buried it. They really have. I mean, come on,

2258
02:14:26,359 --> 02:14:30,680
they've got so much esoteric stuff involved with that. And

2259
02:14:31,920 --> 02:14:35,760
what I like about the Rabbinical texts is it puts

2260
02:14:35,800 --> 02:14:41,960
astrology in a clear place that it's really the interaction

2261
02:14:42,239 --> 02:14:46,000
of the energies of the angelic forces on the soul.

2262
02:14:46,960 --> 02:14:49,479
And the Vedantic does that as well too, the ancient

2263
02:14:49,560 --> 02:14:55,279
Vedic scriptures. You really begin to see that we're really

2264
02:14:55,399 --> 02:14:59,399
sojourners on a journey, and that when we view it

2265
02:14:59,520 --> 02:15:01,439
that way, it's it's a lot healthier.

2266
02:15:03,159 --> 02:15:06,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. I uh, man, so many questions and comments that

2267
02:15:06,960 --> 02:15:09,159
I'm forgetting them all. I usually try to write them

2268
02:15:09,159 --> 02:15:11,319
all down, but I got my notepad all filled up.

2269
02:15:12,239 --> 02:15:14,079
But there's so many good places to go with that.

2270
02:15:14,319 --> 02:15:17,239
But man, but I'm I'm with you, and uh and

2271
02:15:17,479 --> 02:15:20,279
that that's what my heart is, you know, the the

2272
02:15:20,399 --> 02:15:23,439
Hebrew and and and I think we have pieces of

2273
02:15:23,560 --> 02:15:26,840
that throughout our Christian literature. But like you said, going

2274
02:15:27,000 --> 02:15:29,800
to see where they got some of this from. I mean,

2275
02:15:29,840 --> 02:15:32,840
I'm really I love the Testament of Solomon. I don't

2276
02:15:32,840 --> 02:15:34,800
know if you now I do like that one, not

2277
02:15:34,880 --> 02:15:37,560
the Keys of Solomon. I'm with you, stay away, but yeah,

2278
02:15:37,640 --> 02:15:38,000
I'm with you.

2279
02:15:38,119 --> 02:15:39,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a lot of stuff on him.

2280
02:15:39,840 --> 02:15:42,960
Speaker 3: And uh yeah, just hearing the story. Like even in

2281
02:15:43,039 --> 02:15:47,279
the Bible, there's mention of these different uh deities, whether

2282
02:15:47,319 --> 02:15:50,439
it's bels Above and things like that that you only

2283
02:15:50,479 --> 02:15:54,039
here mentioned once in the scripture, but going into Testament

2284
02:15:54,079 --> 02:15:57,079
of Solomon or some of these other he break books

2285
02:15:57,159 --> 02:16:00,920
that were taken out or once had and high regard,

2286
02:16:01,239 --> 02:16:02,960
you know, going back and reading though to see where

2287
02:16:03,000 --> 02:16:05,640
the influence came from the Book of Enoch even you know.

2288
02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:09,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, heavy duty stuff. Yeah, I mean you can

2289
02:16:09,439 --> 02:16:11,920
get weighed on the rabbit hole on that one.

2290
02:16:12,239 --> 02:16:12,760
Speaker 3: Like you take.

2291
02:16:14,079 --> 02:16:17,159
Speaker 1: Everyone's heard, like you know, most most people we see,

2292
02:16:17,239 --> 02:16:19,119
you know, they got a suit, tie and a microphone

2293
02:16:19,199 --> 02:16:22,800
and they're talking about the devil right. Well, the you know,

2294
02:16:22,920 --> 02:16:25,640
it gets a little deeper in that, folks. You got Lucifer, Satan,

2295
02:16:25,720 --> 02:16:28,640
belile On, Leviathan. There, that's the four what they call

2296
02:16:29,399 --> 02:16:32,280
princes of the fourth hierarchy that was cast down. Then

2297
02:16:32,319 --> 02:16:34,840
you have eight beneath that, and you have legions upon

2298
02:16:34,959 --> 02:16:39,639
legions upon legions upon legions of them underneath that, and

2299
02:16:39,760 --> 02:16:43,440
I mean they say the terrestrial spirits, it's uncomfortable. It

2300
02:16:43,479 --> 02:16:47,680
could be trillions, and thank God, literally the upper angels

2301
02:16:47,680 --> 02:16:50,479
are there holding all this in a bance. It's you know,

2302
02:16:51,319 --> 02:16:54,440
one of my friends, Claude Swanson, who wrote a book,

2303
02:16:54,520 --> 02:16:57,200
a couple of books. One is called the Synchronized Universe,

2304
02:16:57,559 --> 02:17:00,879
and he just takes it from a very left brain

2305
02:17:01,040 --> 02:17:08,799
physics perspective and views the probability of the order of

2306
02:17:09,120 --> 02:17:13,680
just physical matter is impossible to stay in its order

2307
02:17:13,799 --> 02:17:18,079
like it does without something exceedingly intelligent and maintaining it. Well,

2308
02:17:18,120 --> 02:17:20,399
when you get into this stuff, you go, well, you bet,

2309
02:17:20,600 --> 02:17:23,920
I mean, look at I mean, these angelic forces are

2310
02:17:24,000 --> 02:17:28,520
amazingly powerful, and that's why the Earth. I don't think

2311
02:17:28,559 --> 02:17:31,479
the Earth will ever end, you know, like it might.

2312
02:17:31,799 --> 02:17:34,239
What do I know? But from what I can see,

2313
02:17:34,399 --> 02:17:40,879
the next real cataclysmic like cataclysm would be somewhere very

2314
02:17:41,079 --> 02:17:43,840
close when we process into the next true age of

2315
02:17:43,879 --> 02:17:47,200
Aquarius in the Maderial zodiac, which is going to be

2316
02:17:47,280 --> 02:17:50,360
about when the Hebrew calendar runs out, which is about

2317
02:17:50,360 --> 02:17:53,280
two hundred and something years from now. So I don't

2318
02:17:53,319 --> 02:17:55,399
think it's right around the corner. Yes, we're going to

2319
02:17:55,440 --> 02:17:58,559
have dissension and war and all the political stuff that

2320
02:17:58,639 --> 02:18:01,159
we have and all that, and we could certainly end

2321
02:18:01,239 --> 02:18:03,040
up with another major war. I hope we don't. I

2322
02:18:03,079 --> 02:18:06,079
hope we never do. But these things come and go

2323
02:18:06,399 --> 02:18:09,360
and a lot of souls get exchanged on that. But

2324
02:18:10,479 --> 02:18:12,200
it keeps on going on.

2325
02:18:12,559 --> 02:18:12,719
Speaker 3: You know.

2326
02:18:12,959 --> 02:18:17,120
Speaker 1: My mother had a little device that was really cool

2327
02:18:17,360 --> 02:18:19,799
when I was a kid. It was called a rock tumbler.

2328
02:18:20,040 --> 02:18:21,760
And she would take all these jagged rocks and she

2329
02:18:21,799 --> 02:18:23,680
would throw it in this little tumbler, and then she'd

2330
02:18:23,680 --> 02:18:25,120
put a bunch of grid in there, and she'd fill

2331
02:18:25,159 --> 02:18:26,399
it up with the water, and she'd put it on

2332
02:18:26,479 --> 02:18:29,079
this little roller, and the rocks would roll around for

2333
02:18:29,159 --> 02:18:31,559
about two weeks, and then he'd come back two weeks later,

2334
02:18:31,840 --> 02:18:33,680
and all the rocks were polished. Well, let's I.

2335
02:18:40,239 --> 02:18:59,159
Speaker 3: Oh you there, I seem to have lost your brother. Yeah,

2336
02:18:59,239 --> 02:19:01,319
let me know, ify'a can still hear me in chat

2337
02:19:02,840 --> 02:19:23,040
if we're disconnected or something? Are you there? Jeff? It's

2338
02:19:23,159 --> 02:19:28,000
not its computer restarted again? He was having computer troubles.

2339
02:19:29,200 --> 02:19:32,920
Can y'all still hear me? Though? Let me know so

2340
02:19:33,239 --> 02:19:38,360
much information, so much information, shout out to everybody hanging

2341
02:19:38,399 --> 02:19:41,120
out with us. In chat, Chris Gardner says, we hear you.

2342
02:19:41,760 --> 02:19:45,360
Somebody else says, yeah, yeah, hear me. Cool cool man.

2343
02:19:45,479 --> 02:19:48,840
So many gems in this episode, and so I'm writing

2344
02:19:48,920 --> 02:19:55,000
down stuff. Graspers of the aura or grasper of the ara.

2345
02:19:55,319 --> 02:19:58,120
That's an interesting term that sounds like a truth seeker song,

2346
02:19:58,239 --> 02:20:00,280
don't it. It might be I might have to use

2347
02:20:00,319 --> 02:20:03,440
that one. These different terms and things that you know,

2348
02:20:03,520 --> 02:20:07,879
get brought up that everybody's different. There's some people, I

2349
02:20:07,959 --> 02:20:11,120
mean most people listening to stuff like this, and there's

2350
02:20:11,600 --> 02:20:13,680
one thing that they take away other people the whole

2351
02:20:13,719 --> 02:20:15,440
time that mind's are blown. You can let your mind

2352
02:20:15,520 --> 02:20:19,239
be blown, but try to take something away. Reading here

2353
02:20:20,680 --> 02:20:25,639
in the chat, Marque says, my mind is blown away.

2354
02:20:25,719 --> 02:20:28,879
That's what I just said. Synchronicity. Synchronicity is are always

2355
02:20:28,959 --> 02:20:32,959
up with the chat. But you can let your mind

2356
02:20:33,040 --> 02:20:35,840
be blown, or you can grab something and take it.

2357
02:20:37,319 --> 02:20:39,799
Grab something and take it like whatever it is, because

2358
02:20:39,799 --> 02:20:44,159
there's a lot take one thing. If you're a og

2359
02:20:44,440 --> 02:20:46,440
like the homie Chris Garner and Chat, you'll take a

2360
02:20:46,520 --> 02:20:49,799
bunch of things and apply it. You'll take a bunch

2361
02:20:49,879 --> 02:20:52,120
of things and break it open like a fortune cookie.

2362
02:20:52,120 --> 02:20:54,200
And get the fortune out of it. You'll look at

2363
02:20:54,239 --> 02:20:58,760
a little bit closer, but just take one thing, almost

2364
02:20:58,799 --> 02:21:01,559
like a lucid dream, you know, almost like a deep

2365
02:21:01,760 --> 02:21:06,520
state of meditation with the higher self. Like so much

2366
02:21:06,559 --> 02:21:12,040
stuff is coming at you, ayahuasca trip, you know, peyote,

2367
02:21:12,879 --> 02:21:17,879
you know psilocybin. You know, you can just keep name

2368
02:21:17,959 --> 02:21:21,200
in medicines. There's so much stuff that comes. And it's

2369
02:21:21,200 --> 02:21:23,520
a cool experience because you come back like what the

2370
02:21:23,680 --> 02:21:27,159
heck was that? Literally, what the hell? What's going on?

2371
02:21:27,920 --> 02:21:32,159
What is this? But if you can take one thing

2372
02:21:32,360 --> 02:21:35,520
out of that dream, if you can take one thing

2373
02:21:35,680 --> 02:21:41,680
out of that astral projection, that sacred plant journey, one

2374
02:21:41,760 --> 02:21:44,200
thing and apply it to your life, Listen, you and

2375
02:21:44,280 --> 02:21:46,159
og because I think the more that you do it,

2376
02:21:46,959 --> 02:21:51,799
you get better at taking more things. But you know,

2377
02:21:52,040 --> 02:21:55,040
even with we're saying, what the heck is this, just

2378
02:21:55,159 --> 02:21:57,479
looking at these tithes that that whole thing is manna.

2379
02:21:58,479 --> 02:22:01,040
That's what the word man means in the Bible.

2380
02:22:01,440 --> 02:22:01,959
Speaker 1: What is this?

2381
02:22:03,479 --> 02:22:05,680
Speaker 3: What the heck is this? There's this stuff that we're

2382
02:22:05,719 --> 02:22:10,200
being fed, these wafers of whatever this is. I don't

2383
02:22:10,239 --> 02:22:12,079
know what it is? What is this? Every morning it

2384
02:22:12,159 --> 02:22:14,959
was manna. But one of the rules of mana you

2385
02:22:15,040 --> 02:22:17,040
don't know what it is, but one of the rules

2386
02:22:17,239 --> 02:22:20,319
is that you can only take as much for that day.

2387
02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:24,200
You only could take as much as you need it

2388
02:22:24,280 --> 02:22:26,520
for the day, because every day you had to keep

2389
02:22:26,639 --> 02:22:30,079
coming back to eat of the bread of life, if

2390
02:22:30,120 --> 02:22:33,639
you will. And so again in the dream states in

2391
02:22:33,719 --> 02:22:37,719
a podcast and information and dialect and wisdom and knowledge

2392
02:22:37,760 --> 02:22:39,799
and all of this stuff. What is this? What are

2393
02:22:39,840 --> 02:22:42,559
you talking about? How many times are there concepts that

2394
02:22:42,680 --> 02:22:47,399
you've heard many times over many time and time again,

2395
02:22:47,440 --> 02:22:51,399
but it just didn't click. It didn't click until it

2396
02:22:51,520 --> 02:22:56,040
all clicked, until it made sense until like even for me,

2397
02:22:56,120 --> 02:22:57,600
what I do. There's a lot of people who would

2398
02:22:57,639 --> 02:22:59,719
tune into something like this and they make fun, like

2399
02:22:59,799 --> 02:23:03,120
from the religious perspective, they make fun of it or whatever,

2400
02:23:03,159 --> 02:23:07,040
blah blah blah blah, until hey, man, I need to

2401
02:23:07,079 --> 02:23:09,799
talk to you. Man this I'm experiencing some things that

2402
02:23:09,920 --> 02:23:12,600
I don't know who to talk to. Hey, glad you

2403
02:23:12,840 --> 02:23:16,600
uh glad, you hit me up. You know, to make

2404
02:23:16,719 --> 02:23:19,959
sense of what it is, to understand what it is.

2405
02:23:20,079 --> 02:23:22,760
But if you don't ask the questions, you'll never receive

2406
02:23:22,840 --> 02:23:25,680
the answers, and so to be one that just kicks

2407
02:23:25,920 --> 02:23:28,440
out all new information that comes to you. That's a

2408
02:23:28,520 --> 02:23:30,840
form of cognitive dissonance, thinking that you have it all

2409
02:23:31,280 --> 02:23:34,120
figured out. You know, we don't in it, and it's here,

2410
02:23:34,120 --> 02:23:36,319
a little there, a little for I mean, this is

2411
02:23:36,360 --> 02:23:40,239
so even I, you know, if I could, if even me,

2412
02:23:40,600 --> 02:23:43,799
as you know, the one who's leading this conversationation or

2413
02:23:43,879 --> 02:23:46,760
leading this podcast, anyway of just to take one of

2414
02:23:46,840 --> 02:23:50,600
those things. And I wrote down many you might you

2415
02:23:50,760 --> 02:23:54,959
might hear a song titled Graspers of the Aura. I

2416
02:23:55,120 --> 02:23:57,600
just think that's a I never heard that term. I'm

2417
02:23:57,639 --> 02:23:59,120
gonna look it up. I'm gonna look into it. I'm

2418
02:23:59,120 --> 02:24:00,799
gonna read on it, see what it is. And I'm

2419
02:24:01,079 --> 02:24:05,159
articulated because it's something that stood out to me. Put

2420
02:24:05,200 --> 02:24:06,959
it in a song, you know what I'm saying, teach it.

2421
02:24:08,520 --> 02:24:17,159
But there's so much of the magnus of storm storm Melos.

2422
02:24:17,639 --> 02:24:21,440
I'm gonna look it up. Not I'm sorry, not magic magnets,

2423
02:24:22,079 --> 02:24:24,760
the magnets of Stormos. I'm looking it up, screwtape letters.

2424
02:24:24,879 --> 02:24:26,559
I'm looking it up. Even though I've heard that so

2425
02:24:26,680 --> 02:24:29,959
many times, but I've never it's kind of it's kind

2426
02:24:29,959 --> 02:24:32,280
of appalling that I haven't read that yet because it's

2427
02:24:32,360 --> 02:24:37,319
definitely one of the mystical writings that for many it's

2428
02:24:37,399 --> 02:24:39,920
it's like a it's like an elementary writing many people.

2429
02:24:40,360 --> 02:24:43,639
I think books like that have gotten people into mysticism.

2430
02:24:43,840 --> 02:24:47,520
Books like that have gotten people into spirituality and asking

2431
02:24:47,559 --> 02:24:50,639
the bigger questions because it's something that resonates for them.

2432
02:24:50,719 --> 02:24:52,920
I think, you know, me paying it forward in a

2433
02:24:53,000 --> 02:24:56,479
plug my book, spirit Realm has been something that ties

2434
02:24:56,559 --> 02:24:59,120
a lot of loose ends and then it leaves people

2435
02:24:59,239 --> 02:25:01,840
even with a lot more more questions when it comes

2436
02:25:01,879 --> 02:25:05,000
to things like that. But it's about fostering too and

2437
02:25:05,079 --> 02:25:10,159
catering to that desire within you to want to know,

2438
02:25:10,399 --> 02:25:13,360
to ignite that flame that when to fan the flame

2439
02:25:13,440 --> 02:25:16,479
within you, as the Bible says. And so there's many

2440
02:25:16,520 --> 02:25:18,799
different things that we do that. And that's one of

2441
02:25:18,840 --> 02:25:20,520
the things that I tell people. They're like, look, I

2442
02:25:20,600 --> 02:25:22,879
want to be spiritual, I want to I want to learn,

2443
02:25:22,959 --> 02:25:24,559
I want to grow deeper. Like what do I do?

2444
02:25:25,600 --> 02:25:30,600
And I'm just a simple formula meditate, read spiritual material,

2445
02:25:31,399 --> 02:25:34,360
and listen to spiritual music. And you know, I do

2446
02:25:34,479 --> 02:25:36,319
all of those things and I teach all of those things,

2447
02:25:36,360 --> 02:25:41,000
and I lead those things. But that's what helps you

2448
02:25:42,760 --> 02:25:45,000
stir up the awe and wonder. And I think that

2449
02:25:45,120 --> 02:25:48,319
our spirituality and all of these materials and the sepher

2450
02:25:48,319 --> 02:25:51,559
Wrath and all of these things stirs up intrigue. It's

2451
02:25:51,639 --> 02:25:53,639
not to be lost in any of those things. It's

2452
02:25:53,719 --> 02:25:57,319
not to be confused in any of those things, but

2453
02:25:57,559 --> 02:26:00,920
just taking what you need for the day, because it's like,

2454
02:26:01,000 --> 02:26:04,680
what is this You don't understand. It's the manner take

2455
02:26:04,719 --> 02:26:05,799
what you need for today.

2456
02:26:06,200 --> 02:26:06,719
Speaker 1: What is it?

2457
02:26:07,319 --> 02:26:11,239
Speaker 3: There's something in a podcast like this again two and

2458
02:26:11,280 --> 02:26:13,440
a half hours now that we've been talking about so much,

2459
02:26:14,440 --> 02:26:16,600
that there's something that that you can apply. And again

2460
02:26:16,639 --> 02:26:19,840
for many of you, there's multiple things that you can

2461
02:26:19,879 --> 02:26:23,360
fly apply and Chris Garner and Chat says too many

2462
02:26:23,399 --> 02:26:29,399
things sometimes so so it's Dave Vulkner, shout out to Dave,

2463
02:26:29,520 --> 02:26:31,440
love you, bro to you. When Chat he says, uh

2464
02:26:32,600 --> 02:26:39,079
Magnuson of stormolos m A g n U s O

2465
02:26:39,280 --> 02:26:43,600
n Magnuson of s t r O v O l

2466
02:26:43,639 --> 02:26:50,000
O s strovlos. So you know, books, reading, meditating, praying,

2467
02:26:50,120 --> 02:26:52,600
listening to music. When I say meditating, that's like really,

2468
02:26:52,719 --> 02:26:55,360
you know, that's a spending time in that secret, quiet

2469
02:26:55,399 --> 02:26:59,559
place with God and with the Holy Spirit and things,

2470
02:26:59,639 --> 02:27:03,680
and so walking in the spirit as the Bible talks about,

2471
02:27:03,840 --> 02:27:07,239
includes all of that stuff. Stirring up yourself, singing spiritual

2472
02:27:07,360 --> 02:27:09,959
songs as the Bible talks about, all of that stuff

2473
02:27:10,000 --> 02:27:12,040
comes into play if you're wanting to go deeper, if

2474
02:27:12,040 --> 02:27:14,840
you wanting to know even where to start. It's simple,

2475
02:27:15,760 --> 02:27:18,559
it's just doing life. It's part of your daily life.

2476
02:27:18,799 --> 02:27:21,600
But again, all of that stuff in the midst of

2477
02:27:23,000 --> 02:27:26,479
simplicity of seeing the beauty and the blueprint, seeing the

2478
02:27:26,520 --> 02:27:29,760
beauty in all things, even in the bad things, even

2479
02:27:29,840 --> 02:27:31,600
in these times you feel like a victim or you

2480
02:27:31,719 --> 02:27:37,079
feel like you're confused, look, find beauty in it, appreciate it,

2481
02:27:37,159 --> 02:27:39,159
because it's not until you're in a state of confusion

2482
02:27:39,479 --> 02:27:42,159
that you're going to ask for the answers. You're not

2483
02:27:42,239 --> 02:27:43,799
going to seek the truth, You're not going to ask

2484
02:27:43,879 --> 02:27:46,479
the the you know what I'm saying, the bigger questions,

2485
02:27:46,559 --> 02:27:49,559
until you're in a state of confusion. You as a

2486
02:27:49,760 --> 02:27:52,399
member in the churches that tell us that the Bible

2487
02:27:52,440 --> 02:27:55,159
says God is not the author of confusion. So any

2488
02:27:55,440 --> 02:27:57,520
time and people would use that as a cop out.

2489
02:27:57,520 --> 02:27:59,920
There would come to a Bible study or a place

2490
02:28:00,120 --> 02:28:01,959
or listen to a teacher and they would get confused

2491
02:28:02,079 --> 02:28:04,399
just because they didn't understand it. And then they would

2492
02:28:04,479 --> 02:28:07,680
negate that teacher and say, hey, God's not the author

2493
02:28:07,719 --> 02:28:10,959
of confusion, and I'm confused, so this person isn't of God.

2494
02:28:11,360 --> 02:28:13,559
Really strange that they would do that, but they did.

2495
02:28:15,600 --> 02:28:18,000
And h But now I see again, confusion is a

2496
02:28:18,040 --> 02:28:21,879
good thing. God uses confusion. He may not be the author.

2497
02:28:22,200 --> 02:28:24,120
He ain't the one that comes down from the throne

2498
02:28:24,120 --> 02:28:26,879
of Heaven and confuses you. I think that even in

2499
02:28:27,159 --> 02:28:29,840
this hierarchy of angels, there are other beings and angels

2500
02:28:29,879 --> 02:28:32,600
that are here to send you for a whirlwind.

2501
02:28:32,799 --> 02:28:33,000
Speaker 1: You know.

2502
02:28:33,200 --> 02:28:35,200
Speaker 3: That's what they do, That's what they were created to do.

2503
02:28:36,319 --> 02:28:38,920
So no, God is not the author of that. But

2504
02:28:39,280 --> 02:28:41,520
it all is an expression. It comes back to the

2505
02:28:41,639 --> 02:28:44,600
one that's over it all. But until you're in that

2506
02:28:44,680 --> 02:28:48,159
state of confusion and chaos are you're not gonna seek order,

2507
02:28:48,840 --> 02:28:51,920
You're not gonna seek truth. And until you're in the

2508
02:28:52,000 --> 02:28:54,600
midst of the darkness, you're not gonna appreciate the light

2509
02:28:56,239 --> 02:28:58,040
you live in the light. You dwell in the light.

2510
02:28:58,159 --> 02:28:59,840
That's all you do is in the light. You're out

2511
02:28:59,879 --> 02:29:05,079
of touch, religious folks, You're out of touch with humanity.

2512
02:29:05,440 --> 02:29:08,440
You're out of touch with the crack addict, out of

2513
02:29:08,520 --> 02:29:12,079
touch with the drug dealer, the drug addict, the porn addict.

2514
02:29:12,120 --> 02:29:15,319
You out of touch. You're just in the light. You

2515
02:29:15,799 --> 02:29:21,280
have no conception of the gradients that exists within on

2516
02:29:21,440 --> 02:29:24,799
the spectrum of spirituality, of life in the dance. That

2517
02:29:25,159 --> 02:29:28,120
you're so heavenly minded, that you're no earthly good, and

2518
02:29:28,200 --> 02:29:30,159
we got to be careful of that. I try to,

2519
02:29:30,280 --> 02:29:32,399
and even there's a part of me that's out of touch,

2520
02:29:32,479 --> 02:29:36,920
and I have to continually remind myself. I forgot how

2521
02:29:37,000 --> 02:29:39,440
it is to be addicted to dope. I forgot how

2522
02:29:39,520 --> 02:29:44,360
it is to be, you know, tormented by evil spirits.

2523
02:29:44,879 --> 02:29:47,079
But I remind myself of it, you know what I'm saying.

2524
02:29:47,079 --> 02:29:50,719
I try to remember because other people are still there

2525
02:29:51,600 --> 02:29:53,159
and I want to have a compassion. I want to

2526
02:29:53,159 --> 02:29:56,639
be able to help those people. But many people, you're

2527
02:29:56,680 --> 02:29:59,000
so busy in the light. You don't give a damn

2528
02:29:59,399 --> 02:30:02,559
because everything going good for you. Your blessings and your

2529
02:30:02,920 --> 02:30:06,360
your finances are blessed. Everything's a blessing, you know, And

2530
02:30:06,479 --> 02:30:09,479
so there is no there's no compassion. Even if there

2531
02:30:09,559 --> 02:30:12,239
is a compassion, there's no way to articulate it. There's

2532
02:30:12,319 --> 02:30:15,959
no uh know how to to step down and and

2533
02:30:16,280 --> 02:30:19,319
and be real with people and use spirituality in practical way.

2534
02:30:19,360 --> 02:30:22,680
It's all of this deep mysticism and astrology and stuff

2535
02:30:22,680 --> 02:30:25,639
that seems so crazy. But to take all of that

2536
02:30:25,719 --> 02:30:28,680
stuff and and and bring it into the simplicity of

2537
02:30:29,000 --> 02:30:32,159
an everyday life. Hold on to you simplicity, people. There

2538
02:30:32,200 --> 02:30:34,920
are beings and spirits that want to take that from you.

2539
02:30:35,440 --> 02:30:37,040
And so that's what I'm here to do. I'm here

2540
02:30:37,079 --> 02:30:39,600
to help you get lost within the mystery, but found

2541
02:30:39,639 --> 02:30:42,719
within the simplicity. That's what it's about. It's this great

2542
02:30:42,799 --> 02:30:44,920
song and dance. And you can either be a victim

2543
02:30:45,000 --> 02:30:48,000
or a victor. But I think balance is key. If

2544
02:30:48,079 --> 02:30:50,680
balance is key, listen, listen, I ain't gonna lead you wrong, man,

2545
02:30:51,399 --> 02:30:53,239
I'm gonna tell you. I'm just gonna let you know

2546
02:30:53,319 --> 02:30:56,760
what worked for me. I'm gonna tell you what worked

2547
02:30:56,799 --> 02:30:58,479
for me and uh and hopefully it'll work for you.

2548
02:30:58,879 --> 02:31:00,159
And I want you to do the same. Let me

2549
02:31:00,200 --> 02:31:02,239
know what works for you. You know, I think that's

2550
02:31:02,280 --> 02:31:06,760
what this podcast exists out of. And there's there's dues

2551
02:31:06,799 --> 02:31:14,040
and don'ts listen. It's what it's about. Somebody speaking of that.

2552
02:31:15,399 --> 02:31:17,959
Somebody in Chattle while ago was talking about wrestling with

2553
02:31:18,239 --> 02:31:21,719
uh with demons or aliens or entities in the middle

2554
02:31:21,760 --> 02:31:24,479
of the night, and they want help, They need help

2555
02:31:25,159 --> 02:31:28,840
navigating through that. We definitely can pray, but it's a

2556
02:31:28,840 --> 02:31:30,200
little bit about walking it out.

2557
02:31:30,399 --> 02:31:30,559
Speaker 1: You know.

2558
02:31:30,639 --> 02:31:32,719
Speaker 3: Praying and rebuking something like that is one thing, but

2559
02:31:32,799 --> 02:31:35,360
being able to walk it out, being in a community

2560
02:31:35,760 --> 02:31:40,040
of like minded people, being in a place where you

2561
02:31:40,159 --> 02:31:43,639
shut those doors to whatever's opening doors to that, to

2562
02:31:43,760 --> 02:31:48,760
those things. I really do believe that. So whatever it is,

2563
02:31:49,159 --> 02:31:50,719
you want to shut the doors and you want to

2564
02:31:50,719 --> 02:31:53,079
make sure that you walk out victory. So I can pray.

2565
02:31:53,159 --> 02:31:55,680
I will pray. I do have some resources on my

2566
02:31:55,760 --> 02:31:58,280
website too that you can check out that help you

2567
02:31:58,559 --> 02:32:02,760
walk in victory. I have I actually have meditations and

2568
02:32:02,879 --> 02:32:04,600
prayers that you can put on that a lot of

2569
02:32:04,639 --> 02:32:11,159
people listen to about spiritual warfare, My Encountering Jesus Meditation.

2570
02:32:11,319 --> 02:32:12,959
It's free if you go to the website. You can

2571
02:32:13,000 --> 02:32:14,719
get it for free if you sign up for the

2572
02:32:14,799 --> 02:32:18,120
email list. It'll go straight to your inbox. But I

2573
02:32:18,200 --> 02:32:22,639
think that the testimonies and things that I'm getting back

2574
02:32:22,639 --> 02:32:25,600
from people who listen to those meditations and who sit

2575
02:32:25,680 --> 02:32:30,200
in them to find a tremendous, tremendous healing and and

2576
02:32:30,399 --> 02:32:34,680
and and being refreshed. So I do have resources available

2577
02:32:34,719 --> 02:32:37,079
for you to walk this stuff out and to understand

2578
02:32:37,120 --> 02:32:40,879
what you're going through and how to walk in and

2579
02:32:41,000 --> 02:32:43,639
freedom in those areas. And so also have our School

2580
02:32:43,680 --> 02:32:46,159
of the Mystics. It's every Thursday night you have and

2581
02:32:46,280 --> 02:32:48,520
we have discord like you can get direct access to

2582
02:32:48,639 --> 02:32:51,440
me throughout the day. I'm on it the majority of

2583
02:32:51,520 --> 02:32:53,840
the time I'm doing work. I have it pulled up.

2584
02:32:53,920 --> 02:32:56,280
So that's the way you can get access to me.

2585
02:32:56,920 --> 02:32:59,159
You have to be a patron, a supporter. It's only

2586
02:32:59,200 --> 02:33:01,760
a dollar. It for a dollar, so but if you

2587
02:33:01,840 --> 02:33:04,399
can't afford a dollar, there's other free things that you

2588
02:33:04,479 --> 02:33:06,879
can download at your disposal as well to help you

2589
02:33:07,680 --> 02:33:09,639
navigate and try to make sense of what's going on.

2590
02:33:09,799 --> 02:33:12,760
So that's the least that I can do. And so

2591
02:33:14,120 --> 02:33:16,879
Ali says in chat, I encourage everyone to do the meditation.

2592
02:33:17,079 --> 02:33:20,239
I listened to them often. Thank you Ali. One of

2593
02:33:20,280 --> 02:33:24,360
the most popular videos on my channel is my h

2594
02:33:25,120 --> 02:33:28,239
what is it a spiritual warfare? Meditation? And what it is?

2595
02:33:28,319 --> 02:33:31,639
It's an affirmation, It's it's reading scriptures over you like

2596
02:33:31,719 --> 02:33:34,000
there's power in that. You know, I wanted that's when

2597
02:33:34,000 --> 02:33:35,360
they I want to talk to him about as well.

2598
02:33:35,399 --> 02:33:37,600
It's reading the Psalms and he talk about how magical

2599
02:33:38,319 --> 02:33:41,399
the Bible is and taking the passages apart. Listen, just

2600
02:33:41,559 --> 02:33:45,920
reading the Bible out loud, especially the Psalms. It releases things,

2601
02:33:46,000 --> 02:33:48,920
it shuts doors like there is power in that. Man.

2602
02:33:49,079 --> 02:33:52,000
So with a lot of those meditations and affirmations, they're

2603
02:33:52,120 --> 02:33:55,280
just me reciting scriptures that helped me out of a

2604
02:33:56,079 --> 02:33:59,040
hard time in my life, that are magical, that have

2605
02:33:59,159 --> 02:34:02,360
the ability to open and closed doors that we've opened

2606
02:34:02,440 --> 02:34:06,360
knowingly or unknowingly. So there's so much to it. A

2607
02:34:06,440 --> 02:34:09,120
lot of those resources are free. I'm and uh there's

2608
02:34:09,200 --> 02:34:12,280
other stuff too. I'm available for one on one consultations

2609
02:34:12,360 --> 02:34:15,520
and guided meditations and spirit journeys and whatever you want

2610
02:34:15,559 --> 02:34:17,959
to do. I'm available for those things as well. So

2611
02:34:18,040 --> 02:34:21,600
definitely check out the website for sure. But there's a

2612
02:34:21,600 --> 02:34:23,760
bunch of free stuff on put that out there as well.

2613
02:34:24,479 --> 02:34:26,760
One thing he said too, and I threw it up

2614
02:34:26,799 --> 02:34:29,040
on the screen for those of you watching. But he

2615
02:34:29,239 --> 02:34:33,520
mentioned it's so much man, you know. But he mentioned

2616
02:34:33,559 --> 02:34:36,479
that Ken and Ryhu or something like that, Ken and

2617
02:34:36,600 --> 02:34:40,079
ry who were like these two dualities of the moons

2618
02:34:40,159 --> 02:34:42,319
or something. I don't know, guys, y'all. I'll do a

2619
02:34:42,360 --> 02:34:44,520
bad job of explaining a lot of this stuff. I

2620
02:34:44,600 --> 02:34:48,440
just try my best, But my mind immediately went to

2621
02:34:48,600 --> 02:34:52,600
Ken and Ryu or the two dualities in these two

2622
02:34:53,479 --> 02:34:59,440
enemies in uh street fighter in street fighter that you know,

2623
02:34:59,559 --> 02:35:02,959
and understanding where these names and terms terms come from.

2624
02:35:03,879 --> 02:35:06,879
It all comes from astrology, man, like, that's where we

2625
02:35:07,040 --> 02:35:11,959
come from out there. It's when heaven touches earth. Our

2626
02:35:12,079 --> 02:35:17,639
souls are from heaven. We're etheric, but we're made out

2627
02:35:17,680 --> 02:35:20,479
of the dust of the earth. So it's with the

2628
02:35:20,639 --> 02:35:25,280
it's it's the polarities that exist within the hearts and

2629
02:35:25,399 --> 02:35:28,479
souls of men. And understanding that it's not a bad thing.

2630
02:35:28,680 --> 02:35:31,559
The duality is not bad. But don't get lost in it.

2631
02:35:32,280 --> 02:35:35,719
Don't get lost within the duality. Don't find yourself fighting yourself.

2632
02:35:36,239 --> 02:35:40,639
Being at one and understanding the energies, understanding your your

2633
02:35:40,879 --> 02:35:43,120
likes and your dislikes and your distaste and the things

2634
02:35:43,159 --> 02:35:45,840
that God has put within you are different from other people.

2635
02:35:46,479 --> 02:35:49,319
But understanding responding with love and universal law and all

2636
02:35:49,360 --> 02:35:53,520
of those things. That's for everybody. So take that embodyment embody.

2637
02:35:53,520 --> 02:35:56,840
It is the embodiment of all the religions of Jesus

2638
02:35:57,000 --> 02:36:02,000
and all of those texts. Respond with love. Man. With that,

2639
02:36:02,079 --> 02:36:04,200
I'm gonna say, peace, y'all. We got some more stuff

2640
02:36:04,200 --> 02:36:07,680
I like to share, but we're almost at two hours

2641
02:36:07,719 --> 02:36:11,399
and thirty six minutes at this point. Shout out man,

2642
02:36:11,440 --> 02:36:13,440
Thank you guys for believing in the work. Everybody for

2643
02:36:13,559 --> 02:36:19,159
supporting on whatever level or platform that you do. So

2644
02:36:19,399 --> 02:36:21,799
if you're just sharing out my material, if you're just

2645
02:36:21,840 --> 02:36:24,239
hanging out in the chat with us, making these live

2646
02:36:24,319 --> 02:36:26,879
streams fun, if you're listening on the podcast apps, and

2647
02:36:27,520 --> 02:36:30,120
you know that's definitely where the biggest audience is. May

2648
02:36:30,159 --> 02:36:32,159
shout out to everybody, no matter what you're doing and

2649
02:36:32,280 --> 02:36:34,520
what you're bringing to the table. If you're praying for

2650
02:36:34,639 --> 02:36:37,879
me and my family, if you're supporting financially, no matter

2651
02:36:38,120 --> 02:36:42,360
no matter what you're doing, I appreciate everyone equally, you know,

2652
02:36:42,639 --> 02:36:45,200
And so I'll just say thank you for that, and

2653
02:36:46,920 --> 02:36:50,840
I'm just excited about the future we have. Speaking of

2654
02:36:50,879 --> 02:36:53,280
the future, we have the Men's Retreat coming up. Only

2655
02:36:53,319 --> 02:36:55,520
got four beds left, guys. If you want to get

2656
02:36:55,559 --> 02:36:57,879
lost in the woods and go on a spirit journey

2657
02:36:57,959 --> 02:37:02,239
with me and really just connect, I have a Men's Retreat.

2658
02:37:02,280 --> 02:37:04,879
We have four tickets left for anybody who is interested

2659
02:37:04,959 --> 02:37:08,600
in that. It's going to be August fifteenth. Tickets are

2660
02:37:08,600 --> 02:37:11,840
at truthseca dot com also too. I want to just

2661
02:37:11,920 --> 02:37:13,479
let people know too, because some people want to know

2662
02:37:13,520 --> 02:37:15,319
what's coming up and I'm booked out, man. I think

2663
02:37:15,360 --> 02:37:20,040
I got like I may have fifteen sixteen episodes booked

2664
02:37:20,280 --> 02:37:22,280
back to back right now with guests and stuff. So

2665
02:37:22,680 --> 02:37:27,440
I'm trying to get these guests on my website so

2666
02:37:27,559 --> 02:37:29,239
you can actually go to the site and see some

2667
02:37:29,360 --> 02:37:31,479
of the upcoming guests that I have now. So if

2668
02:37:31,520 --> 02:37:33,360
you go to truthseeca dot com or just click on

2669
02:37:33,440 --> 02:37:35,280
any of the posts, I think you'll be able to

2670
02:37:35,319 --> 02:37:38,959
see the schedule and some of the next ones that

2671
02:37:39,040 --> 02:37:40,879
I have coming up. I got Chris Carter book back

2672
02:37:40,920 --> 02:37:45,920
on here talking to head about coming on head from corn.

2673
02:37:45,959 --> 02:37:48,479
He's supposed to be on here as soon as I

2674
02:37:48,520 --> 02:37:50,360
have dates for everybody, I'm going to try to put

2675
02:37:50,399 --> 02:37:51,760
them on there. It's a lot of work. I got

2676
02:37:51,879 --> 02:37:54,360
to sit down and put images up and fix the

2677
02:37:54,879 --> 02:37:57,440
dates and it's a lot of work. So also looking

2678
02:37:57,479 --> 02:37:59,399
for people to help again. Still need people to make

2679
02:38:00,120 --> 02:38:04,200
snippets from my podcast and uh, you know, help help

2680
02:38:04,280 --> 02:38:05,760
me get the word out about what I'm doing. If

2681
02:38:05,799 --> 02:38:08,559
you have any interesting or exciting ways that that that

2682
02:38:08,920 --> 02:38:11,159
that you can help, things that you're good at, you

2683
02:38:11,280 --> 02:38:12,920
know how you know your way around a computer. You

2684
02:38:13,040 --> 02:38:14,440
got some extra time and you want to pay it

2685
02:38:14,520 --> 02:38:17,280
forward if you whatever it is, man, let me know

2686
02:38:17,360 --> 02:38:19,280
because I do need help doing some of this it

2687
02:38:19,639 --> 02:38:21,239
stuff and I always put that out there and every

2688
02:38:21,280 --> 02:38:23,680
time I do, people come through. So thanks everybody for

2689
02:38:23,799 --> 02:38:25,760
doing that. But hit me up if you want to help.

2690
02:38:25,840 --> 02:38:29,159
It's pretty easy to do that. Hit me up. Thank

2691
02:38:29,200 --> 02:38:32,399
you guys. We'll do it again. Chris Garner says, happy

2692
02:38:32,399 --> 02:38:36,120
belated birthday to spirit Wolf. For sure, my wife's birthday

2693
02:38:36,239 --> 02:38:39,799
was yesterday. We had a blast. Our anniversary was the

2694
02:38:39,879 --> 02:38:44,159
twenty third. We went on a short short vacation celebrating

2695
02:38:44,200 --> 02:38:46,920
her birthday and our anniversary, and so we're back now

2696
02:38:47,000 --> 02:38:48,520
in the swing of things, ready to get it moving.

2697
02:38:49,319 --> 02:38:52,200
I'm toying with the idea to just try it out.

2698
02:38:52,559 --> 02:38:53,959
Let me know if you think it'll be good in

2699
02:38:54,040 --> 02:38:57,280
the in the show notes and the comment section, discord

2700
02:38:57,319 --> 02:38:58,920
wherever you are, let me know if you think this

2701
02:38:59,000 --> 02:39:01,840
will be cool. Thinking about doing a test run of

2702
02:39:01,959 --> 02:39:07,319
doing like a five day stream every day for a week,

2703
02:39:07,559 --> 02:39:10,040
just to see how it goes, See if the algorithms

2704
02:39:10,079 --> 02:39:13,079
help it, see if people hang out. You know, I

2705
02:39:13,120 --> 02:39:15,639
don't know if there could be too much content for me. Again,

2706
02:39:15,719 --> 02:39:18,239
that's probably why I need some help too on the

2707
02:39:18,319 --> 02:39:21,520
social media side, because I'm putting out the content, but

2708
02:39:21,639 --> 02:39:23,799
I feel like it doesn't get promoted the right way.

2709
02:39:24,159 --> 02:39:26,559
Like it's almost a full time job to promote and

2710
02:39:26,879 --> 02:39:29,879
share these episodes and get new ears and new listeners

2711
02:39:29,959 --> 02:39:32,920
and so especially when the algorithms are working against you.

2712
02:39:33,079 --> 02:39:35,319
So I need people for that. But thinking about it,

2713
02:39:35,360 --> 02:39:37,920
I mean, I would hate to through a whole week

2714
02:39:37,959 --> 02:39:41,000
of interviews and then nobody. I don't really spend the

2715
02:39:41,040 --> 02:39:44,920
time promoting this episode because this episode was really really cool,

2716
02:39:45,239 --> 02:39:47,360
and all of the three hundred and thirty episodes that

2717
02:39:47,479 --> 02:39:50,120
I have, which as far as I'm concerned, all of

2718
02:39:50,200 --> 02:39:52,879
over cool his gems in every single one of them.

2719
02:39:53,239 --> 02:39:55,520
So let me know, guys, give me some feedback, let

2720
02:39:55,559 --> 02:39:57,399
me know in chat, let me know how you can help,

2721
02:39:57,440 --> 02:39:59,559
if you want to help, whatever it is, Love you, guys,

2722
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:11,959
and I would do it again very soon. Peace piece. Wow.

2723
02:40:12,120 --> 02:40:16,079
So the Throne Room Meditation, man, this was just like

2724
02:40:16,280 --> 02:40:19,840
a new level for me of creating encounter. Really, the

2725
02:40:19,920 --> 02:40:23,120
process behind it is going in for myself, having an

2726
02:40:23,239 --> 02:40:26,399
encounter with the Lord, tapping into the spirit and getting

2727
02:40:26,440 --> 02:40:29,639
in his presence and really just petitioning the Father's heart

2728
02:40:29,719 --> 02:40:33,440
and saying, God, would you say, commercially, if I'm bringing

2729
02:40:33,520 --> 02:40:36,319
these people with me here, if they're doing this guided meditation,

2730
02:40:36,959 --> 02:40:39,600
we're going through this journey, we're having fun, we're seeing things,

2731
02:40:39,680 --> 02:40:43,959
we're experiencing new feelings and emotions and sensations, what would

2732
02:40:43,959 --> 02:40:47,520
you say to him? So it's channeling the Father's heart

2733
02:40:48,159 --> 02:40:50,360
and relating it back to the people. So, man, it's

2734
02:40:50,399 --> 02:40:54,200
just a beautiful encounter. And I remember when I wrote

2735
02:40:54,239 --> 02:40:56,920
the first one, I was so excited about it and

2736
02:40:57,000 --> 02:40:59,360
it was just God speaking to my heart. I was

2737
02:40:59,399 --> 02:41:02,479
able to channel the Father's heart and I would read

2738
02:41:02,520 --> 02:41:04,879
the script to people because I was just so excited

2739
02:41:04,920 --> 02:41:07,360
while I was working on it, and every time that

2740
02:41:07,440 --> 02:41:09,559
I would just read the script the presence of God

2741
02:41:09,600 --> 02:41:12,559
would just invade me and I just burst into tears

2742
02:41:12,600 --> 02:41:15,200
and I couldn't even read it. I'm just like, let

2743
02:41:15,280 --> 02:41:17,200
me copy and paste it and send it to you.

2744
02:41:17,680 --> 02:41:21,079
But every time I listen to it, I'm immediately translated

2745
02:41:21,680 --> 02:41:25,399
back into the throne room of God and everything's good there.

2746
02:41:26,319 --> 02:41:29,079
That's the place where everything is okay. Where in the

2747
02:41:29,159 --> 02:41:31,760
scriptures it says that we are to hide under the

2748
02:41:31,840 --> 02:41:34,840
shadow of the Almighty. This is the throne room of God.

2749
02:41:35,159 --> 02:41:37,680
This is the place that we can encounter for ourselves,

2750
02:41:38,000 --> 02:41:40,079
but this is also a place in which we dwell,

2751
02:41:40,479 --> 02:41:42,920
so a part of us is always there and we

2752
02:41:43,040 --> 02:41:45,479
have access to that. Now. There's people who have never

2753
02:41:45,600 --> 02:41:48,479
encountered this before in their life, and it's a totally

2754
02:41:48,760 --> 02:41:53,040
new experience for them. And almost every time I get

2755
02:41:53,079 --> 02:41:56,079
a testimony back from someone, they just say how God

2756
02:41:56,639 --> 02:41:58,879
wrecked their lives, that they didn't know what they were

2757
02:41:58,920 --> 02:42:01,559
getting into. The next thing they know, They're in the

2758
02:42:01,639 --> 02:42:05,680
presence of God, wrapped up in his glory. He's communicating

2759
02:42:05,760 --> 02:42:09,120
his love to them, and it just totally wrecks their lives,

2760
02:42:09,239 --> 02:42:13,360
so make sure you check out the Throne Room guided

2761
02:42:13,440 --> 02:42:16,600
meditation visualization that I brought to the table.