1 00:00:28,559 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Martin willis here, your host. Welcome to Show 2 00:00:32,039 --> 00:00:35,520 B tonight with Captain Ron Janics. We're gonna be talking 3 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,600 about contact in the Desert and my good friend Dean 4 00:00:38,679 --> 00:00:41,960 Alioto is joining in with us today and I'm going 5 00:00:42,039 --> 00:00:43,799 to bring them both in here. 6 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: We all are welcome everyone, O, gentlemen, how are you doing? Wonderful? 7 00:00:50,359 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: Getting pretty excited because how many days do we have left? 8 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:54,679 Speaker 2: It's coming right up. 9 00:00:54,799 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I leave in like six days, so 10 00:00:57,479 --> 00:00:59,600 it's full panic over here. 11 00:01:00,399 --> 00:01:03,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. I put on events before, but nothing like this. 12 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,879 Speaker 1: So and I did help out with the International UFO 13 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,519 Congress in the background, setting that up and breaking it 14 00:01:09,599 --> 00:01:13,400 down and working on the tell Us something telecaster or 15 00:01:13,439 --> 00:01:15,760 whatever it was. I can't even remember what it's called. 16 00:01:15,799 --> 00:01:20,319 But what a lot of work. No one knows what 17 00:01:20,359 --> 00:01:24,239 that's like unless they do it, you know. And and 18 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,280 Gordon was there, who helps you know, Gordon's part of 19 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,239 this content absolutely what a great guy. 20 00:01:29,799 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 3: So yeah, Gordon's you know, he did Megaicon for years 21 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:36,040 and years and years. So Gordon's been doing this for 22 00:01:36,079 --> 00:01:36,840 a long time. 23 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 4: And no one in the UFL community who speaks and 24 00:01:40,239 --> 00:01:42,439 they don't have any special needs at all. 25 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 5: Everything's just oh right. 26 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,519 Speaker 3: They're all very easy going and super prepared and ready, 27 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,560 and they respond immediately to email, which is fantastic. 28 00:01:52,239 --> 00:01:54,719 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, not like. 29 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 3: At the last minute they come up with ninety new ideas. 30 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it should be interesting. I can't wait. 31 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: You know, I've heard about this for you know, since 32 00:02:02,719 --> 00:02:05,400 it started, basically, and people always ask me, you're going 33 00:02:05,439 --> 00:02:06,840 to be there, You're going to be there, And I 34 00:02:06,879 --> 00:02:08,319 have a lot of people that you know, a lot 35 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,199 of listeners that have contacted me, and so there's going 36 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,599 to be a lot of connecting there. And I tell 37 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,120 people this all the time, and I'm sure you can 38 00:02:16,159 --> 00:02:19,199 relate both of you that it's the same thing with 39 00:02:19,319 --> 00:02:22,400 going to the hearings in Washington, d C. It's the 40 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,800 people in the hall, the people that breakfast, the people 41 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,719 at lunch, the people that you talk to that just 42 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,159 make these things. It's icing on the cake. Besides hearing 43 00:02:31,159 --> 00:02:32,159 really great speakers. 44 00:02:32,599 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: I love all that. 45 00:02:33,719 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 6: It really is. It really is. 46 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 3: It's a very unique situation where we have all these people, 47 00:02:37,599 --> 00:02:40,840 you know, the event. Everybody there is for this event. 48 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,960 It's not like we're we have a little part of 49 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,240 the hotel or a little segment of a casino or something. 50 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,800 We have the whole the whole property we rent, so 51 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,680 everybody there is part of contact in the desert and 52 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,759 that kind of makes it even more interesting. 53 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,759 Speaker 1: I was so lucky that I booked the hotel room 54 00:02:58,879 --> 00:03:01,639 when I did, because I know they're they're sold out, 55 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:02,599 which is we. 56 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,039 Speaker 3: Have a fifty person waiting list, and they cut it 57 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:05,560 off at that. 58 00:03:06,039 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 6: There were more. It's it's you got to get that earlier. 59 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:09,879 It goes. 60 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:11,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's talk about it. 61 00:03:11,719 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to bring up the uh you know, of 62 00:03:14,039 --> 00:03:16,560 course this isn't going to be all about contact the desert, 63 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,639 but uh, you know, because I want to ask you 64 00:03:18,719 --> 00:03:21,080 a number of questions and I'm sure Dean has some too, 65 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,039 but so here it is right here, just to bring 66 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,280 it up. You know your website and you still have 67 00:03:27,319 --> 00:03:29,759 tickets available, of course, and I saw there's like a 68 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,960 special going on or something, and I don't know if 69 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,560 that's going to continue on, but anyway. 70 00:03:35,319 --> 00:03:37,479 Speaker 3: Have social ten running right now, so you get ten 71 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,639 percent off. So that's that's what they're running. 72 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So I'm bringing up the speakers and there's 73 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,520 some people I'm really looking forward to meet that I've 74 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:50,400 interviewed in the past, like Ross Coltheart. I'm really looking 75 00:03:50,439 --> 00:03:53,520 forward to meeting him, and Auviy Lobe I've interviewed like 76 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,719 ten times and I'm really excited to meet him in person. 77 00:03:57,199 --> 00:03:59,439 Speaker 3: Hold On, hold on, brother, Just so you know, Avi 78 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,840 cannot make it. He's the only one that's not coming. 79 00:04:01,879 --> 00:04:04,919 Everybody else will be there. He's doing his lecture via 80 00:04:05,879 --> 00:04:06,599 a zoom. 81 00:04:06,719 --> 00:04:08,319 Speaker 5: He's dead to us. 82 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,039 Speaker 6: All right, We only one who's not going to be 83 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,240 there in person. Everybody else will be there. 84 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: Okay, well he's worth doing this. One to call out. 85 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 6: One guy I want to meet in person is the. 86 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: I think I actually wrote him. 87 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm excited to meet him, but anyway, maybe he does 88 00:04:24,959 --> 00:04:26,680 the get back to me yet. Here's I'm just pulling 89 00:04:26,759 --> 00:04:28,680 up all these speakers. One of these people I know 90 00:04:28,759 --> 00:04:32,519 and have interviewed a bunch of times. But actually, Stephen Bassett, 91 00:04:32,519 --> 00:04:34,920 I have to tell you this quick story when I 92 00:04:34,959 --> 00:04:39,800 first in twenty eleven, when I first started this podcast. 93 00:04:39,959 --> 00:04:42,800 Basically I started this podcast. I already did an antique 94 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,160 podcast since two thousand and nine twenty eleven. When I 95 00:04:46,199 --> 00:04:48,279 started this, I had a sighting in two thousand and 96 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,639 seven and I thought Wow. 97 00:04:50,399 --> 00:04:51,759 Speaker 2: This is really fascinating. 98 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,079 Speaker 1: I got to, you know, I think I should do 99 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,079 a podcast on UFOs. Is anyone else doing it? And 100 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,120 there was like a very you know, it was a 101 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,639 handful of people and some of them gone now, but anyway, 102 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,160 I reached out to everyone and the only one that 103 00:05:07,319 --> 00:05:09,600 returned an email was Steven Bassett. 104 00:05:09,639 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: He was my first guest and. 105 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 5: Now you can't get rid of him. 106 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: I can't get rid of him now. 107 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, yep. 108 00:05:16,519 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: If you have a birthday party and more than two 109 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,920 people will be there, Steve Bassett will be happy to 110 00:05:20,959 --> 00:05:23,959 come and talk about UFOs with you. 111 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so here Ben Hansen, I would be hanging 112 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:28,600 out with him. 113 00:05:28,759 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: Robert Sallas, great guy. 114 00:05:30,079 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: All these people are just Paul Heinik is a treasure. 115 00:05:36,439 --> 00:05:39,079 But I'm just you know, skimming through all these just 116 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,959 so people who are watching the video can see who's there. 117 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: We're really I mean, I mean, you know, I'm standing 118 00:05:44,959 --> 00:05:47,920 all of these things too. So we are ecstatic about 119 00:05:47,959 --> 00:05:51,600 this lineup. I've never seen an assembly like this before, 120 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,600 just sort of fell together and we're just very happy 121 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:56,000 about it. 122 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 6: We really are. 123 00:05:57,519 --> 00:05:58,079 Speaker 2: That's great. 124 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:05,079 Speaker 1: And Rizwan Verk very interesting guy. Futurists excited to meet 125 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,519 him as well. So and there's so many I mean, 126 00:06:07,519 --> 00:06:09,199 it just goes on and on and on. And I 127 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,639 have never met Whitley before and this will be a 128 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:13,040 time I'll get to meet him in person. 129 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 6: Legend. 130 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so great. And I don't know how. 131 00:06:16,639 --> 00:06:18,959 Speaker 1: Let me just ask you how, what is it like 132 00:06:19,079 --> 00:06:22,240 to put something together like this, because you know, once 133 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,360 you get all the speakers and you have to figure 134 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,920 out all the logistics, who's speaking when, and someone can't 135 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,000 do this because they're not coming into that. I mean, 136 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,079 there's so much and it. 137 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,319 Speaker 3: Is in a situation five D tetris is what it is. Yeah, 138 00:06:35,319 --> 00:06:37,279 it definitely is difficult if people coming in from all 139 00:06:37,319 --> 00:06:39,160 over the world. We have people that are coming from 140 00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:42,600 the UK, so they're you know, Ross is coming from Australia, 141 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,319 so he's like a day and a half ahead of 142 00:06:44,399 --> 00:06:47,519 us now. So there's a lot of logistics to figure out. 143 00:06:47,639 --> 00:06:50,680 And then who's talking when are they up against them? 144 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,800 Are they talking about the same subject? You got to 145 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,480 mix that up. So it's quite a challenge to get 146 00:06:55,519 --> 00:06:57,920 all that dialed in, to be honest. 147 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,639 Speaker 1: And you have situations where there's a couple of times 148 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,480 I've heard this from the past. I don't know if 149 00:07:03,519 --> 00:07:05,759 this is the way it's going to be, but there's 150 00:07:06,199 --> 00:07:09,319 you know, more than one person speaking at a time, 151 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,600 but they're talking basically on different topics. 152 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 6: That's correct. 153 00:07:13,279 --> 00:07:17,079 Speaker 3: We have you know, six stages pretty much going at 154 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,439 the same time all day. 155 00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:19,879 Speaker 2: Six yes, wow. 156 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: And then there's also the Crystal skulls are going at 157 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,240 the same time. Yeah, there's six going. You have to 158 00:07:25,279 --> 00:07:26,319 decide which you. 159 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 6: Want to choose. 160 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: That's the hardest part about coming to contact is you 161 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,639 have to make decisions do I want to see him then? 162 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 6: And you know, every single. 163 00:07:32,839 --> 00:07:35,519 Speaker 3: Speaker speaks for free, so if you have our five 164 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,360 day past, you can see every single speaker if you 165 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,959 plan it out properly, and then you have an opportunity 166 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,240 to get intimate workshops and intensives with them if you 167 00:07:45,319 --> 00:07:48,680 choose to. But everybody does speak, so you can. You 168 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,959 got to pick your path. It's I remember doing that 169 00:07:52,079 --> 00:07:55,639 myself years ago and having to make these tough choices. 170 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,199 Speaker 2: Hmm, very very interesting. So what are some of the 171 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,519 extra things going on? 172 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: You know, I mean, like I've heard I listened to 173 00:08:04,399 --> 00:08:08,279 you and Dan doing an interview, Dan Harrari and a. 174 00:08:08,319 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 6: Lot of people for us to go to sleep. 175 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: A lot of people turn that on and then they 176 00:08:11,959 --> 00:08:12,839 doze right off. 177 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: So well, I heard that there's like a meditation thing 178 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:18,800 going on there's so. 179 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:19,839 Speaker 6: They do that every night. 180 00:08:19,959 --> 00:08:21,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, they do that every night, and they do they 181 00:08:21,759 --> 00:08:24,759 do the bulls to let people you know, sound baths, 182 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,519 and they do yoga in the morning, doing the SkyWatch 183 00:08:29,519 --> 00:08:33,000 stuff as well. Yeah, with Mark D'Antonio, we've got multiple 184 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,279 busses going out Friday and Saturday and you can go 185 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,919 with those two guys out over this giant hill, so 186 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,960 you're in the desert and you know, away from the 187 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,919 city lights and everything, and they'll tell you this is 188 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,159 the space station, this is Venus, this is what to 189 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,000 look for, this is what's normal, this is what's an anomaly. 190 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,480 People love the bust thing. It's fantastic. 191 00:08:54,799 --> 00:08:56,879 Speaker 2: And what about Giant Rock? Did I hear you going 192 00:08:56,879 --> 00:08:57,600 to Giant Rock? 193 00:08:57,919 --> 00:09:00,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, they go on Thursday and they go again on 194 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,399 with Eric Rinkin and they go out there and they 195 00:09:03,399 --> 00:09:04,039 go to the. 196 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:04,919 Speaker 6: Original Giant Rock. 197 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 3: You know, that's sort of the I think, part of 198 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:12,240 the creation of contact in the desert. When what's that 199 00:09:12,279 --> 00:09:16,120 guy's name, Ron Martin Antassel, Yeah, van Tassel did this, 200 00:09:16,159 --> 00:09:18,080 you know, in the fifties. He had this gathering of 201 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,240 people at Giant Rock. So they go out there and 202 00:09:20,279 --> 00:09:22,600 then they also go to the Integratron on Monday, which 203 00:09:22,639 --> 00:09:25,039 is closed, but they open for us and you get 204 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:29,639 a unique opportunity to go into the Integratron and experience 205 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,679 that whole thing, which is people love that as well. 206 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: I got to tell you this great story. I just 207 00:09:34,399 --> 00:09:38,559 love this story. It's really fascinating to me. Ray Stamford 208 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,120 are you familiar with Ray Stamford. Yeah, he did a 209 00:09:41,159 --> 00:09:43,440 great book on the Soakoro incident. Was there just a 210 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,200 couple of weeks after so I was talking to Ray. 211 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,279 I went and visited him at his house and was 212 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,600 sitting and talking to him, and he started talking about 213 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,399 going to Giant Rock when he was seventeen years old 214 00:09:55,399 --> 00:09:57,919 with his twin brother. Em and his twin brother went 215 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,720 there and they listened to the whole thing. There's like 216 00:10:00,759 --> 00:10:05,559 a thousand people there or something, you know, And they're afterwards, 217 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,799 everyone's leaving and they're both kind of hanging out waiting 218 00:10:07,799 --> 00:10:09,600 to talk to George, and George comes up to him 219 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,120 and he said, you guys seem like really nice guys. 220 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,200 He says, you know, there's really nothing to this. This 221 00:10:15,279 --> 00:10:17,320 is all just bs. You probably don't want to waste 222 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,039 your life on this. 223 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,879 Speaker 2: No way, that was what he said to them. 224 00:10:20,879 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's incredible, isn't that something? 225 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 6: Well? Who knows? 226 00:10:25,159 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, he's part of that whole fifties 227 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,279 abductee thing, which is you know. 228 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: Contact eee. I guess they called them. 229 00:10:32,399 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, back in the day. Sure, so you know, who's 230 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:37,399 to say. You know, it's hard to say. 231 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: I I it's hard for me to put stock in 232 00:10:40,039 --> 00:10:43,320 anything like that. But it is fascinating and it is 233 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,320 interesting and Giant Rock's amazing. Anyway, Yeah, you know. 234 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: I know, I'm really excited to see it. 235 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,519 Speaker 1: And I don't mean to put any typic of Bosh 236 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,279 on that, Oh no, no, because I know there's definitely 237 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,799 enough going on and has been enough going on, and 238 00:10:54,879 --> 00:10:58,120 probably things going on there that have happened. You know, 239 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,960 you get out in the desert, you never know which 240 00:11:00,039 --> 00:11:00,600 are going to see. 241 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,759 Speaker 3: Joshua Tree alone has a lot of sightings and experiences. 242 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,720 Joshua Tree is notorious for this, and that's where this 243 00:11:07,759 --> 00:11:08,600 event used to be. 244 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,399 Speaker 4: As you know, right, that's right, and it was, Yeah, 245 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,399 Dave Foley and Jeremy Corbell. 246 00:11:14,519 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 5: They had a sign in the desert as well. 247 00:11:16,879 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 6: That's right. I think they were in Joshua Tree. 248 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so it does happen. In fact, I'm going 249 00:11:23,799 --> 00:11:25,639 to be this will be my first time coming to 250 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,840 contact in the desert, and I'm very excited about that because. 251 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,799 Speaker 3: Your your your credentials are very limited. It's the men's 252 00:11:32,879 --> 00:11:35,159 room and then that one time when you play your 253 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,480 film I think is pretty much your access. 254 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 5: And it's roped off their security as well. That's what 255 00:11:40,519 --> 00:11:41,039 I was told. 256 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: I have a whole list of what I can and 257 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,799 cannot do. What's great about this festival, the reputation anyway, 258 00:11:46,919 --> 00:11:48,879 and we'll do a post mortem after and we'll see 259 00:11:48,879 --> 00:11:51,240 if this is true. But I keep hearing that this 260 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,559 is like fun filmmaking camp that you can go up 261 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,360 and you can approach any of these guys, and there's 262 00:11:56,519 --> 00:12:00,559 there's sections and stuff time a lot. There's a words gallop, 263 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:01,960 but we're not going to talk about that because it's 264 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:02,840 plain opposite. 265 00:12:02,919 --> 00:12:03,879 Speaker 6: My screens. 266 00:12:04,919 --> 00:12:09,519 Speaker 3: But yeah, before you're screening, before your second screening yet. 267 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,639 Speaker 5: But the second screen yeah and. 268 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,759 Speaker 4: Then uh, but but it's really a place where you 269 00:12:14,799 --> 00:12:19,120 can come. As an example, the UFO community is the 270 00:12:19,159 --> 00:12:23,840 greatest community. I mean there there's there's several different there's 271 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,440 music communities, this or that, but there's something about this 272 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:27,279 community where the. 273 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 5: Conversations are insane. 274 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 4: It's like beyond what you would normally do. There's no 275 00:12:32,519 --> 00:12:35,480 one's holding back. It's all just free, you know, free throwing. 276 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,039 But everyone just we're all there for the same reason. 277 00:12:39,799 --> 00:12:42,559 And so you know, seeing the list of people who 278 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,080 are going to be there, I know a chunk of 279 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,759 these guys and they're all good people. Uh, it just 280 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:53,399 seems like it is it is the perfect what is 281 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,159 that the perfect confabulation of everything when you come and 282 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:58,840 if you want to get fed on UFO, as you can, 283 00:12:58,879 --> 00:13:03,440 if you want to get fed on telepathy, you've got Diana, 284 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:09,120 doctor Zion Powell coming, which is studying. I mean, the 285 00:13:09,159 --> 00:13:12,879 research that she's been doing is just amazing nuts. And 286 00:13:12,919 --> 00:13:15,320 so anyway, there's a little some it's like a smorgasport. 287 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,840 There's something you know for everyone there is. 288 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,879 Speaker 3: There are people talk about all kinds of topics, the afterlife, 289 00:13:20,879 --> 00:13:23,759 you know, and a lot of these topics. As you 290 00:13:23,799 --> 00:13:26,919 two gentlemen know, because you've done research on this. Uh, 291 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,600 they really do seem to overlap. It's that what do 292 00:13:29,639 --> 00:13:33,480 they call ven diagram where uh, there's overlap. And even 293 00:13:33,519 --> 00:13:37,639 people like Whitley have stated publicly that they feel that 294 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,440 the afterlife may in fact have something to do with 295 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,360 the visitors. A lot of these abductees contactees seem to 296 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,679 say that. So there's there's there's a lot of these 297 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,960 different aspects that kind of touch each other in one 298 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:50,519 way or another. 299 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 4: We all see loved ones that will be on these 300 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,000 crafts are around them. I remember one of the first 301 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,519 conversations I had with lou Elisondo. I said to him, 302 00:13:58,519 --> 00:14:01,480 I go, you know that's really resonating with me, is 303 00:14:01,519 --> 00:14:05,000 maybe they're traveling through the astral plane. If you can 304 00:14:05,039 --> 00:14:07,440 do that, you don't need that the hardware as much 305 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,000 as you know the nuts and bolts. 306 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 5: This frees up a whole bunch of thinking once we 307 00:14:11,639 --> 00:14:13,080 can you know, navigate through that. 308 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,759 Speaker 4: And so the overlap, which they kind of call high 309 00:14:16,799 --> 00:14:19,279 strangeness right when it gets a little bit too much, 310 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,720 But no, there definitely is overlap, and that's I want 311 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,120 to see more of that coming out. 312 00:14:25,279 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 5: And so I'm glad that the program this year is featuring. 313 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,519 Speaker 3: And also you know, then we even touch on things 314 00:14:30,559 --> 00:14:34,480 like the government disclosure, what's happening in Congress, what's happening 315 00:14:34,559 --> 00:14:38,240 you know in the mainstream world, as far as we've 316 00:14:38,279 --> 00:14:43,360 had an unprecedented level of Congress people talk about this. 317 00:14:44,159 --> 00:14:47,879 There's like eighteen different people in Congress right now where 318 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:53,600 the Senate who have publicly spoke you know, pro UAP disclosure. 319 00:14:53,759 --> 00:14:56,720 That's that's unheard of. Ten years ago, that would never 320 00:14:56,759 --> 00:14:58,039 have happened. You wouldn't have got one. 321 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,919 Speaker 1: When I went to the hearing in DC, I just 322 00:15:01,919 --> 00:15:06,240 felt like it was so historic. Yeah, just historic, like 323 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,080 and you know when they have thirty five seats and 324 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,000 a thousand people show up for them, I feel like 325 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,480 I was really really lucky to be the second to 326 00:15:14,519 --> 00:15:15,799 the last person in the door. 327 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,519 Speaker 6: So awesome, but I. 328 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,279 Speaker 2: Had to pay for it. 329 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: I had to get up at five whatever it was 330 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,759 five in the morning and be in line, and people 331 00:15:23,799 --> 00:15:24,879 cut in line all day. 332 00:15:24,919 --> 00:15:27,759 Speaker 5: You know, you threw down on them pretty hard though 333 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:29,320 I did. 334 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, yeah, you're right. 335 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: But anyway, it's yeah, I think it's a real interesting 336 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:40,960 time to be involved in this topic, you know, since 337 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,440 twenty eleven, Well, Ron you've been paying attention to it. 338 00:15:44,399 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: A long time. 339 00:15:44,879 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how long you've actually, you know, I've 340 00:15:48,159 --> 00:15:50,759 done a podcast on I'm not really sure, but I 341 00:15:50,799 --> 00:15:52,559 know you've been podcasting a long time. 342 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: But still, you know, do you follow this? 343 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:00,919 Speaker 1: This What's happened in twenty seventeen comes along, that that 344 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,679 article comes out, and then the doors, the floodgates open 345 00:16:04,759 --> 00:16:07,480 to actually people paying attention to this. 346 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: It's remarkable how much of an impact that had. That 347 00:16:10,879 --> 00:16:14,000 just like kicked off all of these different things right 348 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,080 in sixty minutes, and then the next thing, and then 349 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,080 the videos come out, and then you know. 350 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,279 Speaker 1: Abby Low and you know, people like him see you 351 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,440 people taking it, you know, really serious. And I remember 352 00:16:25,559 --> 00:16:28,320 the best conversation I had. Oh god, am I going 353 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:29,559 to forget his name right now? 354 00:16:30,519 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: He's a professor in Aliotto, Professor. 355 00:16:36,679 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 4: Ruddy Shields the professors. 356 00:16:40,919 --> 00:16:43,879 Speaker 2: No, he's a professor and he's involved in the science 357 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:44,399 part of it. 358 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,559 Speaker 5: I just like Michael Masters. No. 359 00:16:47,559 --> 00:16:49,759 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm just making fool of myself because I can't 360 00:16:49,759 --> 00:16:51,480 think of his name. But he's been on my show 361 00:16:51,519 --> 00:16:53,960 a bunch of times, and I'm going to apologize to 362 00:16:54,039 --> 00:16:56,399 him for this. But anyway, he said he wanted to 363 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:01,480 be on the ground floor when this, you know, because 364 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,879 he saw earthquake lights. He go to these conventions and 365 00:17:03,919 --> 00:17:05,880 there was a guy and they were saying, this guy's crazy, 366 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,319 these earthququake lights are nothing. And then found out that 367 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,920 this guy really did have something. He said, I want 368 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,039 to be that guy when it comes to UFOs, So 369 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,440 I'm going to talk about it. 370 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 5: Kevin Kanu that's him. 371 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 6: There you go or Kevin? 372 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: Thank you Dean. Yeah, yeah, great guy. 373 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: But I mean so he spoke at Contact before, Oh 374 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,359 he did. Yeah, I mean he's a great guy. And 375 00:17:28,519 --> 00:17:31,759 but see you just this is what that did. They 376 00:17:31,799 --> 00:17:34,359 got all these people. Now, I used to ask people 377 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,160 prior to twenty seventeen. I used to ask people like 378 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:41,160 I spoke with one astronaut, but you know scientists and 379 00:17:41,559 --> 00:17:45,119 you know astronomers, and what would it take for science 380 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,960 to get interested in. 381 00:17:46,839 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: The UFO topic. That's what I used to ask them. 382 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:54,319 Speaker 1: And they would say, well, it doesn't have any there's 383 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,960 no like end game here, and when there's no endgame, 384 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,759 you're not going to get funding. So that's why you're 385 00:18:00,759 --> 00:18:03,880 not going to have any science take this seriously because 386 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,720 it's not repeatable. It's you know, it's not predictable. It's 387 00:18:07,759 --> 00:18:10,839 not this or that. That's all changed now, you know, 388 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,680 because they decided, well, hey, you know there's at least 389 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,640 something to this, and let's take a better look. 390 00:18:17,759 --> 00:18:21,319 Speaker 4: Well, also, I think we would rely on people who 391 00:18:21,799 --> 00:18:23,960 kind of do this as a side hobby, who would 392 00:18:24,039 --> 00:18:28,240 look at at like, as an example, material exotic material. 393 00:18:29,039 --> 00:18:32,799 Kevin Kanuth, if you've seen The Oily Perspective, part one, 394 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,759 my documentary, Kevin Kanuth has material. Three samples of material 395 00:18:37,319 --> 00:18:41,640 that tested the two tests that were done beforehand tested 396 00:18:41,799 --> 00:18:44,519 very oddly. It shouldn't have been. The numbers came back 397 00:18:44,759 --> 00:18:47,599 what they did. But Kevin is someone who like, if 398 00:18:47,599 --> 00:18:49,519 we're going through and he's like, okay, that's not a 399 00:18:49,599 --> 00:18:52,480 correct test, let's take that out. 400 00:18:53,519 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 5: A lot of these what's. 401 00:18:54,519 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 4: Great about Kevin and and a lot of other people 402 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,680 is they want to weed out the other stuff that 403 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,440 it isn't as much as going right towards leaping to conclusions. 404 00:19:05,039 --> 00:19:07,759 And so that has allowed other people to come in 405 00:19:07,839 --> 00:19:09,720 because you can also blanket a lot of these and 406 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,200 it was a way that we were able to get 407 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,039 people for this doc and other people got it for 408 00:19:15,079 --> 00:19:18,160 other docks is to say, as a hypothetical, let's look 409 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:23,839 at this applying your skill set, and we are finding 410 00:19:23,839 --> 00:19:27,359 that people are because they've been talking about this between 411 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,880 themselves for years, but they've never come out of the 412 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,079 pott and now they are. And so it could not 413 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,920 be a better time, I think to embrace this. But again, 414 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,559 you're right, what is the end game? 415 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:40,559 Speaker 2: Yeah? 416 00:19:40,599 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 3: Well I remember it with an unknown Even the people 417 00:19:43,279 --> 00:19:45,680 that claim to know about this, we don't know what 418 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,839 it is, you know, I don't know that anybody really does. 419 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,680 You know, even if we have craft, if we have 420 00:19:52,839 --> 00:19:55,680 all these things, there's still got to be so much 421 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,599 we don't know or understand or be able to get 422 00:19:57,599 --> 00:20:01,200 our brains around. So it's difficult dealing with an unknown 423 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:01,920 subject like that. 424 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we know just so little about everything 425 00:20:05,279 --> 00:20:08,000 going around us, going on around us. That's how I 426 00:20:08,039 --> 00:20:10,720 feel like we just know, just a little tiny fragment 427 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,359 of reality. 428 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,079 Speaker 3: I talk about this all the time, Martin, how things 429 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,160 have changed and how far off. You know, one hundred 430 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,599 years ago we thought our galaxy was the entirety of 431 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,359 the universe. Yeah, and now we think there are two 432 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,839 trillion galaxies. So look at the margin that we are 433 00:20:29,839 --> 00:20:33,039 off in in under one hundred years. So you can 434 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,640 just imagine extrapolating that out something like this, How we 435 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,279 can't even get our brain around it. 436 00:20:39,079 --> 00:20:41,799 Speaker 1: And just you know, think of where we're observing from 437 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,880 a little arm uh you know, oriyan just a little 438 00:20:45,319 --> 00:20:47,799 and we can actually see as much as we can 439 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:52,119 and think of all like the James Webb telescope. How 440 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,680 many things were saying, well, that doesn't make any sense. 441 00:20:54,759 --> 00:20:57,480 But you know that's why science has to be malleable 442 00:20:57,519 --> 00:21:01,599 and you know, self correcting as and more information comes along. 443 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 3: It's great to have guys like AVI and stuff pushing this. 444 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:08,480 They've got new telescopes coming online soon that the extra 445 00:21:08,599 --> 00:21:12,319 Large telescope in Chile and a couple others. Obviously this 446 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,480 is going to move things way forward because we able 447 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,920 to see so much more and scan the skies and 448 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,480 things like that. And it's fun to think about these things, 449 00:21:19,759 --> 00:21:23,559 let's say, from an alien perspective. You know, it's fun 450 00:21:23,559 --> 00:21:25,160 to think about these from a different way. You know, 451 00:21:25,319 --> 00:21:30,200 Dean's films amazing and it really just is very thought 452 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,079 provoking and it's really something to think about. 453 00:21:32,839 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I yes, it is really and to think that 454 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:43,160 you know, this is some of the things I think about, 455 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,799 you know, when it comes to this topic, is you know, 456 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,519 I mean, if we are being observed, which I do 457 00:21:50,559 --> 00:21:54,559 think is very possible, you know, have we you know, 458 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,880 maybe I'm going down the rabbit hole a little bit, 459 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,440 but have we been seated here and to be observed? 460 00:22:01,839 --> 00:22:02,039 Speaker 2: You know? 461 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: I mean that was actually something I wrote in high 462 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:09,079 school for an essay when I wasn't even really into 463 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,440 this topic, you know, trying to well, maybe that's why 464 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:16,200 there's different races and different continents, because you know, we're 465 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,319 all planted here as an experiment, you know. 466 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: And I actually got an a which was really rare 467 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,160 for me. Martin. 468 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 3: You know, I think you could go back one hundred 469 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,279 thousand years as soon as our brains were working. I 470 00:22:27,319 --> 00:22:30,440 got to think the first questions, the first two questions 471 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,839 are the two big questions. What happens when we die? 472 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 473 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,839 Speaker 6: And then are we alone? Yeah? Those are the two biggies. 474 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,559 Speaker 3: I mean, you don't need to be studying the stuff 475 00:22:39,599 --> 00:22:43,319 or anything to have that just feels inert, right, yeah? 476 00:22:43,319 --> 00:22:45,559 Speaker 2: But why is it that? I mean, I think this 477 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:46,519 is really funny. 478 00:22:46,519 --> 00:22:48,559 Speaker 1: When I talked to like people out there, friends, and 479 00:22:48,599 --> 00:22:51,440 things like that, said, hey did you see that? You 480 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,119 know there was a hearing on the UFO topic. 481 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:54,839 Speaker 6: No. 482 00:22:54,839 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: No, And it's like, you know, my sister, whose husband 483 00:22:57,799 --> 00:23:00,759 is a scientist, who actually thinks they're could be something 484 00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:03,640 to this, she could care less about, you. 485 00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: Know, and there's so many people that. 486 00:23:05,319 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: Most people interact with her that way. And I don't understand. 487 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,039 You have Eric Davis sitting before Congress saying we have 488 00:23:12,319 --> 00:23:15,640 we know of four types of alien beings face to 489 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,519 face with a congressman. And I didn't see that story anywhere. 490 00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:22,200 Why is that not on every evening news. 491 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,279 Speaker 6: Across the country. That shocks me. 492 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:29,039 Speaker 4: It's really weird because I look at the whole phenomenon 493 00:23:29,079 --> 00:23:31,880 as a menu, and some people just don't want to 494 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,400 order off the menu. They're just like, this is too much, 495 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,599 this isn't something I would normally eat, and they're they're 496 00:23:37,759 --> 00:23:39,839 not adventure or they just want to park it here. 497 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,880 I'm only going to have that egg tuna salad with 498 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:42,640 a little bit of. 499 00:23:43,559 --> 00:23:47,519 Speaker 5: You know, rye bread on the side. Whatever. So people 500 00:23:47,519 --> 00:23:49,519 are going to be selective about it. 501 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 4: Or it comes and then they hit it really hard 502 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,000 and they're in it for a moment. And then here 503 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,079 comes another shiny object, and then we go over here, 504 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,119 pivot over here, and yet everyone, all of us are 505 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,960 still on that first shiny object that is letting us 506 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:05,400 go Dean. 507 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: It's very shocking to me how it seems through doing 508 00:24:09,519 --> 00:24:11,960 all this stuff, you see how everybody's just sort of 509 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,920 so dug in with their position in a movie will 510 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,519 come out like Deans. That's very eye opening and incredible, 511 00:24:19,839 --> 00:24:22,119 and I think, well, wow, that should move the needle, 512 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,359 because that really showed us this, and it just reinforces 513 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,920 people that believe in this and then the other like 514 00:24:29,079 --> 00:24:32,200 they don't care. It's you know, until you pull off 515 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,359 the ship and the bodies on the White House lawn, 516 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,279 it doesn't move the needle at all. Eric Davis seeing 517 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,559 that publicly in front of Congress, all these things that 518 00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:45,279 have been happening in Congress does not seem to move 519 00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:45,759 the needle. 520 00:24:45,799 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 6: And that is. 521 00:24:46,599 --> 00:24:49,519 Speaker 3: Utterly shocking to me. How dug in people are at 522 00:24:49,519 --> 00:24:51,359 their position. They're just like, yeah, wow. 523 00:24:51,279 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to tell you a funny situation. Do 524 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,599 you remember when the Alien Autopsy film came out? Yeah, 525 00:24:56,599 --> 00:24:58,720 I'm going to say it was like ninety five, nineteen 526 00:24:58,799 --> 00:24:59,920 ninety five, something like that. 527 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,039 Speaker 4: I was there when the producer told me he's got 528 00:25:02,039 --> 00:25:05,359 his hands on some footage. He told it to me, Yeah, 529 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,160 Bob Kiviat, and I told him at the moment, I said, yeah, 530 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,400 that's bullshit. And I haven't even seen a lick of frame. 531 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,559 Speaker 2: Okay, So I'll tell you this, man. Yeah, I got 532 00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:16,599 to just tell you this story. 533 00:25:16,839 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: I had a very busy auction company at the time, 534 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,920 Antiques Auction, Art Auction all that. I was just so busy, 535 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,319 and I was like a one man show. I did 536 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,720 have like four or five people working for me and stuff. 537 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,119 But I was like running like crazy and I come 538 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,640 through the living room in my house and I see 539 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,200 the alien autopsy film on the thing and I stop 540 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,799 and I'm looking at it and I go, huh wow, wow, 541 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,400 that's interesting. Well I got to get back to work, 542 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,039 and I just like that was it. And so I 543 00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:49,480 am right there with the people that you know, kind 544 00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:51,440 of pass this stuff off. 545 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,759 Speaker 2: But you know, the funny thing and just. 546 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: A spoiler alert, that is a fake video. Everyone, So 547 00:25:57,079 --> 00:25:59,640 if you don't get fooled on that one, that's a 548 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,359 good it's a good fake, but it's fake. 549 00:26:01,599 --> 00:26:02,759 Speaker 5: Well, even Bob said to me. 550 00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 4: He goes, yeah, I'm sure you're right, but I'm going 551 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,640 to make an fload of money and I. 552 00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:07,279 Speaker 6: Go do it. 553 00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 5: If that's what you're doing it for, then yeah, that's sad. 554 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 3: But Martin, uh, we're talking with the king of that 555 00:26:14,839 --> 00:26:17,720 sort of genre almost right, right, Dean. 556 00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 4: That is. 557 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,519 Speaker 3: The found footage idea, and I think it's it's an 558 00:26:23,599 --> 00:26:26,079 excellent idea for a film. I think you could have 559 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,519 just done it and been honest about it upfront instead 560 00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:30,319 of trying to hoax everybody. 561 00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:34,759 Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, well there's no money in not hoaxing people, 562 00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:36,119 and so you have to really. 563 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: Lean into it. I guess No, George Fantassel, you know. 564 00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:42,839 Speaker 4: I'm still the only filmmaker that's gone on national TV 565 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,640 to debunk his own movies. So and that's on record. 566 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,799 But no, it's interesting, Martin, because it will come in 567 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,279 and then it's like, how do I fit this into 568 00:26:54,319 --> 00:26:55,720 my wardrobe of my life? 569 00:26:56,319 --> 00:26:57,839 Speaker 5: And people don't make room for it. 570 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,799 Speaker 4: They just go yeah, And I am stand that it's 571 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,079 it's ontological shock, right as John Mack said it. 572 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,519 Speaker 5: I think it's something. 573 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:11,559 Speaker 4: That is a slow, gradual thing that'll that'll come for people. 574 00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:13,920 But I just know, amongst my friends who would give 575 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,119 me crap, I had this one documentary filmmaker. He used 576 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,200 to give me shit all the time and go, are 577 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,000 you still doing that? I'm like, I know, I'm seven 578 00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:21,839 years into this. I don't know what the hell's going on, but. 579 00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:22,759 Speaker 5: It's got me. 580 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,039 Speaker 4: And then he called me like four months six months later, 581 00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:28,720 and he says, hey, Dan, can we can we talk? 582 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,279 And I said, yeah, we're talking right now. 583 00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 5: Go ahead. And he says, so I saw something and I'm. 584 00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 4: Like, god, I haven't seen anything good for you. And 585 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,440 he goes, no, no, it's really bad. And I go 586 00:27:39,799 --> 00:27:43,240 what And he says, it's jacked me up. I saw 587 00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:46,680 something that should not exist. He says, my whole life. 588 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,880 I just thought this whole thing was crap. And I 589 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,160 saw something off my balcony with my roommate. We were 590 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,319 both looking at this thing. It was a silver craft 591 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,279 moving along really slow and it was about maybe seventy 592 00:27:57,279 --> 00:27:58,079 five yards away. 593 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 5: You could clearly see it. 594 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,599 Speaker 2: Wow things. 595 00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, then a blue light went around and it took 596 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,400 off and he said, I've just been sitting with this 597 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,079 and I'm not sure. I mean, it really jacked him up. 598 00:28:09,519 --> 00:28:12,480 And so some people can handle this, and some people 599 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,880 you know, can't, and so it becomes a matter of 600 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,920 us not saying you need to accept this, not at all. 601 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,359 We just present it and say, if you're interested, if 602 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,160 you're UFO by curious, this is you've got a welcome placer. 603 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,920 And I think that you know, contact in the desert 604 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,200 in some of these other places, they're there for that 605 00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:32,319 because there are so many answer it's a puzzle and 606 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,319 everyone's got a piece, and that's what's exciting about it 607 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,720 doesn't have to be just one puzzle. 608 00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:37,519 Speaker 6: It's all another brick in the wall. There's no doubt 609 00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:37,839 about it. 610 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,119 Speaker 3: But I feel Dean that there's I think it's uh 611 00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:45,359 disingenuous to not at least entertain this. The people that 612 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,519 dismissed this out of hand without looking at that, that 613 00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:50,720 frustrates the hell out of me, because listen, I sit 614 00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:53,359 right in the middle. I am not you know, it's 615 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,400 very hard to convince me of a lot of these things. 616 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,279 But there's something here. And you know, you have this 617 00:28:58,319 --> 00:29:00,839 film in the Age of Disclosure coming out, another film 618 00:29:01,319 --> 00:29:04,599 that has what thirty two or thirty four guys that 619 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,960 all of their credentials are ridiculous. Why do these gentlemen 620 00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:16,200 get and women get to these places, have these credentials 621 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,119 behind them, they get to these places in life. Why 622 00:29:19,119 --> 00:29:21,640 do we just dismiss that out of hand? That part 623 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,759 I don't understand. If Avolobe saying these things, and John 624 00:29:24,839 --> 00:29:27,200 Mack is saying these things, and these guys in agent 625 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,240 disclosure of saying these things, well that makes an idiot 626 00:29:30,279 --> 00:29:32,839 like myself say, well, wait a minute. These guys are 627 00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:34,400 a lot smarter than me, and they got a lot 628 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,920 further in life than I did. Maybe I should listen 629 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,160 to what they say. There must be something to this. 630 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,400 These guys don't have time to blow smoke. I don't 631 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,519 have time to look at social media. How do these 632 00:29:43,559 --> 00:29:46,759 guys have time to look into all these things? There 633 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,160 must be something there. And the people that just dismiss 634 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,319 that out of hand, I think is really unfair. 635 00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 6: You don't have to believe in all this. 636 00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:58,079 Speaker 3: But you do have to acknowledge that there must be 637 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,839 something somewhere to warrant it right. 638 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 4: What you're doing and what Martin does and everyone else 639 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,400 in this community. Unfortunately, we're all burdened with counter having 640 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,599 to do counter programming because for decades, anytime the subject 641 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,680 was brought up in a new situation at a level 642 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,079 of respectability. 643 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 5: It had the music score of the X Files. 644 00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:24,319 Speaker 6: Right, So we're. 645 00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:26,559 Speaker 4: Having a counter program and then we're having to create 646 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,839 new brain grooves for this. 647 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 3: I think, in my view, it shouldn't be counter program. 648 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 6: Though. 649 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,319 Speaker 3: I don't understand why some of these things aren't front 650 00:30:34,359 --> 00:30:36,680 page of the news, you know, not some crazy wacky 651 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,680 story that some crazy incident happened, but the fact that 652 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,359 people are in Congress saying these words, the fact that 653 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,319 a guy like hell put off. Now, how does that 654 00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:47,720 guy get to where he is? And then he goes 655 00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:51,839 on Rogan and says, we have more than ten craft 656 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,720 in our possession that should at least be something worth 657 00:30:55,759 --> 00:30:59,680 talking about, and just goes away. 658 00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:00,759 Speaker 6: Yeah. 659 00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always path on me. 660 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: But you know, going back to what I was talking about, 661 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,440 walking by that alien autopsy film and then jumping right 662 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,759 back into work. Do you know that until I started 663 00:31:12,759 --> 00:31:16,240 doing this program, I never really looked into that, you know, 664 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,200 And even after I had my UFO sighting, I never 665 00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:20,960 looked into it. 666 00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: You know. 667 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: It's kind of like you're so busy with your life. 668 00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:26,759 I understand the people being busy with their life because 669 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:27,799 I you know, that's. 670 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,039 Speaker 3: What Mart and I do too. Absolutely. I get the 671 00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:32,960 mundane concerns of our lives. People are raising kids, people 672 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,200 have two jobs. I get all that. But I'm talking 673 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,000 about people who are dismissive of this topic. Oh yeah, 674 00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:44,079 nonsense or silliness. I'm like, why based on what? Yeah, 675 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:50,480 I find that position, the extreme position there as nutty 676 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,519 as the far believer position. Who have all these beliefs, 677 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,279 you know what I mean? I think people all should 678 00:31:56,359 --> 00:31:57,880 just kind of bring it in a little bit and 679 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,599 just take a rational view of this. 680 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: That's yeah, No, I get, I get that makes total sense. 681 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, like, but what you said 682 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,559 in toward the beginning of when we started talking about 683 00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:13,880 people already have their mindset, you know. And there's I 684 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,599 don't know if you've noticed, but there's a lot of 685 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,599 division in the UFO community, but there is in all 686 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,599 aspects of our society and social media. You know, there's 687 00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:25,880 I'm right, are wrong, I'm bad, you're good. You know, 688 00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:28,559 I mean I'm good, you're bad. I mean, you know 689 00:32:28,759 --> 00:32:29,400 the type of thing. 690 00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 3: I've chose my team and that's it, and and and 691 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,799 nothing will change me. And I find that just really 692 00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:38,720 hard for me. I'm somebody that's very open minded to 693 00:32:38,839 --> 00:32:43,160 this stuff and other topics in life. Nothing supernatural, just 694 00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:46,240 in life. I'd like to hear both political views and 695 00:32:46,279 --> 00:32:48,640 make your points. To me, It's just how do you 696 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,799 subscribe to one set of beliefs only and everything else 697 00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:54,839 on the other side is wrong. I can't get my 698 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,039 head around that. I don't know how people can't. Well, 699 00:32:57,079 --> 00:32:59,240 I agree with this side for these issues and this 700 00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:01,720 side for these issues. You know there should be some 701 00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:02,359 gray there. 702 00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:04,839 Speaker 2: Nope, Yeah, it's no flying. Yeah. 703 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 4: And what's interesting is the alien messaging for decades maybe longer, 704 00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:13,519 has been two things. Your technology is not helping you, 705 00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:18,039 and you're screwing up your planet. And so I am 706 00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:21,480 going to in my mind, if i'm you know, if 707 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,759 this keeps coming, this messaging keeps coming, and I want 708 00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:28,480 to benefit from our elders if you will more advanced. 709 00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:30,359 Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna take heed to that. 710 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 4: And so I don't want to politicize this but at all, 711 00:33:34,759 --> 00:33:38,039 and it shouldn't be. But it's our planet needs to 712 00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:41,400 come first at some point. Because when I hear of 713 00:33:41,799 --> 00:33:43,599 you know, like Elon Musks have talking about, oh, we're 714 00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:45,359 going to go to Mars and we can do terra firming. 715 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,559 Speaker 5: You really can't. You can't do that. 716 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,559 Speaker 4: Because when you think about where the Earth is situated, 717 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,200 you have to factor in azilion things. You have to 718 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,240 factor in gravity. The gravity has to be identical within 719 00:33:56,279 --> 00:33:59,160 a pound or we're going to be all jacked up, right. 720 00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:02,400 It's got to have the right amount of sun. It's 721 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,200 got to have the right amount of temperature. It's a 722 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,640 whole litany of things. And so when we find these 723 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,320 other planets that look like they have life in the globalux, 724 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,559 they're not identical to us. 725 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,679 Speaker 5: So it's good for other living beings, but it's not 726 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,519 going to be good for us. 727 00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 3: Dean, that's a great point. Do you know that even 728 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,960 on Earth? I always find it fascinating how literally I 729 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,559 live pretty close. You know, I live in La so 730 00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:28,039 I'm fairly close to Death Valley. You know nothing, you 731 00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:31,039 can't live there, And that's just because elevation changed a 732 00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:33,000 little bit. You go up on a mountain and that's 733 00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:36,079 no good either. So even on our planet we have 734 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,760 like this band of above sea level that we can 735 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,679 live at. If you go below above, hardly anything can 736 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,800 live there. So it's amazing how narrow those margins are. 737 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,280 You know another thought I thought of when you were 738 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,840 talking there, Martin, is that do you know, throughout roughly 739 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,639 two hundred thousand years of humanity existing, we all believed 740 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,599 up till nineteen ninety two that there were no planets 741 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,320 in the universe outside of our solar system. Only in 742 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,280 nineteen ninety two did we first discover our first exo planet. 743 00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:15,440 So all of that time we were contemplating this with 744 00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:17,960 the belief that there were no other planets out there. 745 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 2: Well, there were people speculating there were, but. 746 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,639 Speaker 4: No, yeah, it wasn't accepted until ninety two, yep, until 747 00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:28,559 they saw the wabble. 748 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 3: That's incredible that so for thirty five years we've been 749 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,239 able to get our mindset well, maybe there are other planets, 750 00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:38,559 so now we can start thinking in those terms. So 751 00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:43,719 it's just it's amazing how you know that can change 752 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,239 our perspective so much just with that little bit of knowledge. 753 00:35:46,679 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 5: So sorry, General Martin. 754 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 4: I know that Martin wants to ask you, and I'm 755 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,719 curious as well, how did you get what was the 756 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,239 gateway for you? What got you into this? 757 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 6: I've always liked these things since I was a kid. 758 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:00,400 I liked. 759 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,199 Speaker 3: I like things that I don't understand or don't know about. 760 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,559 I don't like hearing something I already know about. Let's 761 00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:07,239 talk about it again. I already know that. Tell me 762 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,039 something I don't know. It is something I grew up with. 763 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,280 And then, you know, like everyone, I read Whitley Strieber's 764 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,440 Communion and I read Van Dan against Jerry to the Gods, 765 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,559 and I thought, well, wow, this makes sense. Why isn't 766 00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:24,119 anyone talking about this? And then I started listening to 767 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,639 Ard Bell and you know, all of these things that 768 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,119 a lot of us have gone through. I find it 769 00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:33,719 very interesting and curious. And now, luckily I was in 770 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,440 the cell at the right time, because, like you said, 771 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:40,000 martin twenty seventeen, everything's changed and everything is really expanded 772 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,079 in this whole community, and it's really interesting to be 773 00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:43,559 part of it. 774 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:44,559 Speaker 6: Right. 775 00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, now I can't really remember. 776 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,639 Speaker 1: Oh yes, I know what I was going to say, 777 00:36:48,679 --> 00:36:50,800 just real quickly, and then we're basically going to be 778 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,960 wrapping up here. But you know, getting back to different planets, 779 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,280 you said one pound difference, you know all that. 780 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,599 Speaker 2: You know I spoke with, you know, Mark. 781 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: D' antonio, just saying, well, what kind of life would 782 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,119 be you know, most most solar systems of binary you know, 783 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,400 so then you got gravity doing this type of thing. 784 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,000 You know, I said, what kind of differences do you 785 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,840 think it would make in developing? And it's all you know, 786 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,199 I mean, it's just such I can't remember exactly what 787 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,079 he said, but you know, all these things are factors. 788 00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:24,320 Are moon with the tide, you know, the tides. If 789 00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:27,679 we didn't have that, you know, would the oceans be stagnant? 790 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 6: What? You know? 791 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: I mean, all these different things. It's really quite amazing 792 00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:33,920 to think about. But the odds are that there is 793 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,880 you know, I mean there I have a feeling. I 794 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,639 can't say that I have proof, but I have a 795 00:37:40,639 --> 00:37:44,119 feeling that there's tons of life out there, and I'm 796 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,320 very curious to know intelligent life. You know, what things 797 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:53,280 would be like, what's what's music like in another you know, uh, 798 00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:55,400 you know, alien species? 799 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 2: What's the. 800 00:37:58,079 --> 00:37:59,079 Speaker 5: Just to let you know, it's like a. 801 00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:04,079 Speaker 2: Sorry, what's the equivalent of the first kiss? The first car? 802 00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 6: You know? 803 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you know all these things that I just 804 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,960 love thinking about all that type of thing. You know, 805 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,039 it's all such a puzzle, and you know, I don't 806 00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:14,280 know who said it maybe Dean. You know, the people 807 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,760 in this community are really amazing, and I feel so 808 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,360 lucky that I had that UFO sighting. 809 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:21,599 Speaker 2: You know. 810 00:38:21,639 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: I have the love of my life because of that 811 00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:28,320 UFO sighting, you know, and I just. 812 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,039 Speaker 2: Feel really blessed. And it's been a pleasure talking to 813 00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:31,920 both of you guys. 814 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 6: This is great. 815 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,639 Speaker 3: I love talking about this stuff all the time. And 816 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,360 Dean's movie is amazing. That's reason enough to go to 817 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,760 Contact right there, because we're going to see Part two 818 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,760 world premiering at Contact, which we're really genuinely excited about. 819 00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 6: Yeah. 820 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 2: I haven't even seen that, even though I'm good friends 821 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,360 with Dean, so. 822 00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:49,760 Speaker 5: We're not that good friends. 823 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 2: Okay, I guess not good enough, buddy. 824 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thank you guys so much, and we'll 825 00:38:55,679 --> 00:38:57,880 see you in ten days or whatever it is. 826 00:38:58,519 --> 00:39:01,039 Speaker 2: But ye, what's the first day? 827 00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 6: Thursday? Thursday? 828 00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:08,679 Speaker 1: And just for our listeners, we have Danny Sheen coming up. 829 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,719 He's going to be there too, but he's coming up 830 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,239 next week as a guest. Thanks so much everyone. 831 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 6: We'll see you guys. Thanks man. 832 00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: All right, keep your eyes to the sky.