Speaker 1: As a hiding place. This highway is ideal.
Speaker 2: A body might not be found ever or maybe never.
Speaker 3: For years, Lauren was kind of a free spirit, and
Speaker 3: we didn't worry about her when probably we should have
Speaker 3: worried about her more.
Speaker 4: From the very beginning, Cody starts saying things about sex
Speaker 4: to Lauren, very very graphic things about sex. It's so
Speaker 4: frightening to hear the story.
Speaker 5: It appears that Cody was a proverbial taking time bomb,
Speaker 5: just waiting to go off.
Speaker 3: There wasn't poaching, it was it was murder. You can't
Speaker 3: learn that you have to be born that way. You
Speaker 3: can't learn that evil.
Speaker 1: And if one is already killed, then how many other
Speaker 1: victims may still be out there.
Speaker 4: British Columbia is really a fascinating place and it's incredibly isolated.
Speaker 6: We're in the middle of a sea of trees.
Speaker 7: British Columbia is about one point seven times the size
Speaker 7: of France.
Speaker 4: You know how these little communities that for years didn't
Speaker 4: have running water or update electricity.
Speaker 2: I go back along way and there were just small
Speaker 2: little villages even till I was fourteen week traveled to
Speaker 2: town once a week by horse and buggy or horse
Speaker 2: and slay. Never heard of anyone go missing like this.
Speaker 8: Cutting through these rural communities is a highway that the
Speaker 8: last few decades has become increasingly.
Speaker 5: Notorious, Highway sixteen.
Speaker 1: Between Prince George and Prince Rupery. It is seven hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty five kilometers long.
Speaker 4: Highway sixteen in British Columbia has a much more well
Speaker 4: known name. It's often referred to as the Highway of Tears.
Speaker 5: It relates back to the incredible amount of murdered and
Speaker 5: missing women and girls that have simply just disappeared on
Speaker 5: that highway. When these cases happen, it takes a very
Speaker 5: It hits close to home.
Speaker 7: Usually they're a hitch hiking and doing so at a desperation.
Speaker 7: They really have no other form of transportation. Can you
Speaker 7: imagine as seven and twenty kilometers stretch, there's maybe a
Speaker 7: town every hour.
Speaker 1: As a hiding place.
Speaker 5: This highway is ideal.
Speaker 2: A body might not be found ever, or maybe never
Speaker 2: for years.
Speaker 8: Fort Saint James, a small village just off the Highway
Speaker 8: of Tears, is home to Cody Lechebakhov. He's born in
Speaker 8: nineteen ninety and grows up close to this infamous stretch
Speaker 8: of road.
Speaker 5: By all appearances, Cody came from a great family, didn't
Speaker 5: want for much growing up, had everything, all the comforts
Speaker 5: of home, essentially his full life ahead of them.
Speaker 2: I didn't know him personally. I didn't know his father
Speaker 2: or mother personally, but his grandparents I knew extremely well.
Speaker 2: I can't say anything bad about.
Speaker 5: My dog.
Speaker 4: Legendbikoff was in some respects a normal kid. He was
Speaker 4: a big kid, an early bloomer in some ways. But
Speaker 4: one of the things that kind of stood out about
Speaker 4: him is he loved to play hockey. But he stood
Speaker 4: out in terms of his level of violence on the
Speaker 4: hockey rink.
Speaker 1: Other parents would take their children off the ice when
Speaker 1: he was participating in hockey because of his aggressive nature.
Speaker 1: We all can come out out and be very very
Speaker 1: aggressive at certain times. The difference is are we able
Speaker 1: to control our anger and not have it come out
Speaker 1: that serious violent acts occur to other people. Here you
Speaker 1: have someone who's a deer hunter, and he is hunting
Speaker 1: the deer, but maims them first and then goes with
Speaker 1: his hands to finish the deal of killing them.
Speaker 4: This is somebody who would literally beat a deer to death.
Speaker 5: The fact that he's a hunter doesn't surprise me. But
Speaker 5: the fact that he took pleasure in seeing those animals suffer,
Speaker 5: that is that's staggering.
Speaker 4: Actually, it is a marker. It is a risk factor
Speaker 4: for violence against humans. And yet in some respects it
Speaker 4: was compartmentalized because he was very well liked and got
Speaker 4: along and had plenty of friends.
Speaker 2: I think the hardest part of all is anyone that
Speaker 2: knew him never suspected for a minute that any of
Speaker 2: this would have ever gone on.
Speaker 8: After graduating high school, Legenbokhov moves one hundred miles from
Speaker 8: rural Fort Saint James to the city of Prince George.
Speaker 5: My name is Todd Doherty. I'm the Member of Parliament
Speaker 5: for Carebrew Prince George. We have a tremendous amount of
Speaker 5: First Nations communities in and around our area, and gradually,
Speaker 5: over time, as our forestry industry has been decimated, we've
Speaker 5: seen a lot of economic hardship. You've got families that
Speaker 5: are finding it harder to make ends meet. You have
Speaker 5: substance abuse issues, you have domestic abuse issues.
Speaker 8: Cody gets a job as a mechanic, starts a relationship,
Speaker 8: and appears to quickly adapt to city life.
Speaker 7: If you want to find trouble, that's not difficult to
Speaker 7: find a Prince George.
Speaker 6: It could be a bit of a party town.
Speaker 7: There are certainly escort services in the city. It's not
Speaker 7: difficult to find drugs in this town.
Speaker 1: So imagine moving to this urban environment, this environment with
Speaker 1: all of these different stimulus, all these different ideas, all
Speaker 1: these different things coming at you from you coming from
Speaker 1: a small rural environment. That's a lot. We can now
Speaker 1: see the potential as he's in this urban area for
Speaker 1: him to escalate.
Speaker 7: Cody eligible CoV seemed to like the party a lot.
Speaker 7: He was fairly popular with the girls. He really got
Speaker 7: into the cocaine.
Speaker 4: I think Legibikov, he almost lived a double life. I
Speaker 4: think you have somebody who is working at a Ford dealership,
Speaker 4: who's got a relationship, who people see as very personable,
Speaker 4: is likable, is funny, and then you have this other side.
Speaker 4: It's like the dark depths of the soul that you
Speaker 4: start seeing.
Speaker 1: Here you have an individual who is now working, but
Speaker 1: the cocaine addiction is there girlfriend in the middle. The
Speaker 1: idea to juggle all of those this is more stress
Speaker 1: on an individual. This anger, this this aggression is already there.
Speaker 1: You have elements starting to line up now that can
Speaker 1: lead someone to be involved in very violent activities.
Speaker 3: My name is Doug Leslie and I am Lauren don
Speaker 3: Leslie's father. From what I can understand, she did meet
Speaker 3: him online and he went.
Speaker 4: And picked her up. It's so frightening to hear the story.
Speaker 5: It appears that you know Cody was a taking time bomb,
Speaker 5: just waiting to go off.
Speaker 8: Cody lejobock Off, now aged twenty, has a girlfriend and
Speaker 8: is working as a mechanic. He's also hiding a cocaine addiction,
Speaker 8: and it started chatting with the fifteen year old girl online,
Speaker 8: Lauren Leslie.
Speaker 2: Lauren was special from day one. As she grew, she
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time at my house visiting. She
Speaker 2: was a unique girl, very unique girl.
Speaker 4: She was always awesome, very thoughtful.
Speaker 3: She had a vision problem. She was legally blind, but
Speaker 3: you'd really never know it by watching her because she
Speaker 3: never let on. It never really slowed her down at all.
Speaker 2: When she was four, she went to school with a
Speaker 2: little boy and liked this little boy. But when this
Speaker 2: boy was nine, he drowned in the lake. When it
Speaker 2: came to the the funeral, she wanted to sit with
Speaker 2: the parents, and she sat beside the mother in stroke
Speaker 2: her arm. And this is how unique. She's nine years old.
Speaker 2: This is the unique little girl.
Speaker 4: Lauren Leslie is a very innocent fifteen year old girl.
Speaker 4: She meets this predator on a Canadian internet site called Nexopia.
Speaker 4: From the very beginning, it is clear that the agendas
Speaker 4: are very, very different. From the very beginning, Cody starts
Speaker 4: saying things about sex to Lauren, very very graphic things
Speaker 4: about sex. You can see that this makes Lauren very
Speaker 4: very uncomfortable. And the way she handles that in their
Speaker 4: communication online is she tries to ignore it, and then
Speaker 4: she tries to kind of say to him, Hey, that's
Speaker 4: not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for something different.
Speaker 4: And you know, it's just a dramatic to see the
Speaker 4: differences in what these two people are saying.
Speaker 3: Well, the last time I saw her was about three
Speaker 3: o'clock in the afternoon, and she was hanging around with
Speaker 3: friends and walking downtown.
Speaker 4: On the night of November twenty seventh, she tells her
Speaker 4: mom she's going to have coffee with a friend, and
Speaker 4: she goes and she meets this person, this predator, at
Speaker 4: a school on the playground. He offers to get her
Speaker 4: some alcohol, which you know she's much too young to
Speaker 4: be drinking, but she finally says, okay, I'll have some
Speaker 4: mud sliders. What is it about to happen? I think
Speaker 4: is something that's very, very scary.
Speaker 5: There were two RCP officers, one from the Prince Hur's detachment,
Speaker 5: one from the boundary of Detachment that we're meeting on
Speaker 5: Highway sixteen late at night. It is amongst one of
Speaker 5: the darkest highways I've ever been on. Just ahead of them,
Speaker 5: this truck pulls out of a isolated logging road and
Speaker 5: at a high rate of speed, kind of fish tailing
Speaker 5: down the road.
Speaker 4: To his credit, this cops spidy senses just start going off,
Speaker 4: puts his lights on, calls her back up, and pulls
Speaker 4: over this black truck.
Speaker 1: Think about the remoteness of the Highway of tears, but
Speaker 1: can you imagine making a traffic stop in a remote
Speaker 1: area like this.
Speaker 4: The police officer comes up to the window, he's shining
Speaker 4: his light. He looks at his credentials and he notices
Speaker 4: that there's this kind of red smudge on this person,
Speaker 4: the driver's chin, and it looks like his blood Meanwhile,
Speaker 4: his backup person comes. They start looking around and they
Speaker 4: find blood. There's a knife in the car that's got
Speaker 4: blood on it, there's a wrench in the car that's
Speaker 4: got blood on it. They plum blood just about everywhere.
Speaker 1: The first response from him is, well, I've been hunting,
Speaker 1: been poaching deer, and that's what happened. Okay, blood on
Speaker 1: a wrench. The officer continues on.
Speaker 4: Even though the police don't at all believe Cody's story,
Speaker 4: they're going to check it out. They go back to
Speaker 4: this logging road and they discover the worst case scenario.
Speaker 4: They discover the body of a young girl who's in
Speaker 4: the snow. She has been beaten so badly that her
Speaker 4: face is unrecognizable. They have some clue though, in terms
Speaker 4: of who she is, because they also had found this
Speaker 4: really adorable monkey backpack. They find a wallet, a polka
Speaker 4: dot wallet, and in that has got Lauren Leslie's identification card,
Speaker 4: her medical card.
Speaker 3: I got a car all from the cops that I
Speaker 3: don't know. It was probably midnight, dish. I went up
Speaker 3: to the to the site and that when I got there,
Speaker 3: the cops are at the end of the road.
Speaker 2: My son Doug called me by phone quite early in
Speaker 2: the morning to tell me what had happened. At the end.
Speaker 2: It was devastating to hear that news.
Speaker 5: Lauren was so young, Absolutely devastated that family, Absolutely devastated
Speaker 5: that family in so many ways. I couldn't imagine what
Speaker 5: Lauren's last moments were.
Speaker 7: Late. I remember vividly that the photo that they issued
Speaker 7: of Cody Legibokoff, he looked like an absolute trade wreck.
Speaker 7: You could tell he did a lot of drugs.
Speaker 3: I ended up in the police station in Vanaru for
Speaker 3: about thirty feet from Ledgerbokoff. He was in the cell
Speaker 3: in the next couple of rooms over, and you know,
Speaker 3: I told the cop to let me in for five minutes,
Speaker 3: and I found out later on and that's all he
Speaker 3: could do is to not let me in. But it was,
Speaker 3: you know, to have that thirty feet away from me
Speaker 3: at that time was pretty rough.
Speaker 4: This is somebody who was not out of control of
Speaker 4: his life. This was somebody who had a girlfriend. This
Speaker 4: was somebody who was holding down a job. So this
Speaker 4: is not somebody whose life is going off the rails
Speaker 4: because of their cocaine use. When you look at the
Speaker 4: premeditated and calculating way that this offender, that this predator
Speaker 4: goes online, needs somebody, and that's not the kind of
Speaker 4: murder that you see with somebody who's psychotic because of
Speaker 4: some dragon fueled frenzy.
Speaker 8: Ledgebokoff is held in custody, his apartment is searched and
Speaker 8: he swabbed for DNA as police began preparing evidence for
Speaker 8: his trial twelve months after Lauren's death. After examining new evidence,
Speaker 8: police contact Laurence family was shocking news.
Speaker 3: About a year later, we got called in when they
Speaker 3: connected the dots and found out that he was in
Speaker 3: fact being charged with three more murders.
Speaker 5: It's unbelievable stumbled upon what turned out to be Canada's
Speaker 5: youngest serial killer. You never know what's going on in
Speaker 5: the house beside you. With this case, that's probably one
Speaker 5: of the most terrifying things.
Speaker 8: Cody Leedjebakhov is in custody charged with the first green
Speaker 8: murder of fifteen year old Lauren Leslie. Police now suspects
Speaker 8: Lauren isn't his first victim. They've been investigating the murders
Speaker 8: and missing persons cases of three other women.
Speaker 5: This happened over a course of a long period of
Speaker 5: time when you have one body turn up and then
Speaker 5: maybe you have another body and completely unrelated. You don't
Speaker 5: believe that you have a serial killer of walking amongst us.
Speaker 5: And it was only after the discovery of Lauren that
Speaker 5: investigators were they able to really piece together that, holy smokes,
Speaker 5: we have a serial killer amongst us.
Speaker 8: The unsolved murders and missing person cases back to over
Speaker 8: a year before Lauren Leslie was killed. On October ninth,
Speaker 8: two thousand and nine, local woman Jills Touchinko is reported missing.
Speaker 7: Jill Stutchenko a thirty five year old mother of five
Speaker 7: who was very much deep into your addictions.
Speaker 6: She was kind of known and I actually kind of
Speaker 6: known and liked.
Speaker 7: She had friends who wanted to get the word out
Speaker 7: about her disappearance, and of course turned to us to
Speaker 7: get that word out.
Speaker 4: This is a woman who had had some struggles in
Speaker 4: her life. She had a pretty significant cocaine addiction that
Speaker 4: she was battling, but she was also the mother of
Speaker 4: five children and she really really wanted to get her
Speaker 4: life straightened out so she could take care of her children,
Speaker 4: and she was just having a difficult time with it.
Speaker 1: Stitchenko was found half buried in a gravel pit just
Speaker 1: outside Prince George.
Speaker 4: She had been completely mutilated. There was evidence that she
Speaker 4: had been beaten with a blunt object, she had been stabbed,
Speaker 4: There was evidence that she had been sexually assaulted. It
Speaker 4: was just an absolutely horrendous crime scene.
Speaker 7: Whenever they find a body, they do a lot of forensics.
Speaker 7: They just gather as much evidence as they can. They'll
Speaker 7: close the scene down for a day or so.
Speaker 8: By comparing DNA records from Jill Stucchinko to a stain
Speaker 8: found on Legibakhov's sofa, police now believe he is Jill's killer.
Speaker 4: This is Cody Lejebikov's first murder, at least first confirmed murder.
Speaker 4: Cody would often contact women who were sex workers. He
Speaker 4: also would get them to get crack cocaine for him.
Speaker 4: He seemed to have a pretty significant addiction around this
Speaker 4: time to crack cocaine, and so those both may have
Speaker 4: been in play in terms of when she came over
Speaker 4: to his apartment. We know that she died an absolutely horrendous,
Speaker 4: horrendous death based on autopsy results.
Speaker 5: The first murder was probably very opportunistic and he found
Speaker 5: that will wait a second, I got away with this.
Speaker 5: It was easy to do, and he had it in
Speaker 5: him and that just fueled the passion to do more.
Speaker 8: Another vulnerable woman is reported missing from Prince George.
Speaker 7: Natasha Montgomery was a girlfriend Quinnell, which is a small
Speaker 7: community probably about an hour hour and a half drive
Speaker 7: south of Prince George.
Speaker 6: Came from a good.
Speaker 7: Family, did a lot of figure skating as a youngster,
Speaker 7: and sort of lost her way once she came up
Speaker 7: to Prince George.
Speaker 4: Natasha Montgomery was twenty three years old. She had struggled
Speaker 4: with crack cocaine that was kind of a monkey on
Speaker 4: her back that she had a really hard and time
Speaker 4: getting rid of. She sometimes resorted to sex work as
Speaker 4: a way to supplement her income, So she was really
Speaker 4: somebody who was in a high risk category.
Speaker 7: She was missing, and we you know, quite honestly, every
Speaker 7: couple of weeks somebody goes missing, and more often than
Speaker 7: not they sort of resurface.
Speaker 6: But she hadn't resurfaced.
Speaker 8: Natasha Montgomery is still missing and presumed dead. When Legen
Speaker 8: balk Off is charged with Lauren's murder, Police find Natasha's
Speaker 8: DNA on Ledgenbakoff's clothing and in various places in his apartment.
Speaker 7: They blue lighted it and there was swabs everywhere, and
Speaker 7: it was it looked like he basically started chasing her
Speaker 7: from his bedroom into the kitchen and beat.
Speaker 6: Her to death.
Speaker 1: Now we have another victim that's linked to him because
Speaker 1: of DNA evidence found in his apartment. If we have
Speaker 1: Montgomery's body that has never been found, we just never
Speaker 1: know how many others are out there, whether it be
Speaker 1: on the Highway of Tears or some other place that
Speaker 1: if one is already killed, then how many other victims
Speaker 1: may still be out there.
Speaker 4: There is eleven months between Cody's first murder and a
Speaker 4: second one. Is it possible that he did other murmurders
Speaker 4: during this time? It is. There certainly have been serial
Speaker 4: killers who have started out slowly and then ramped up.
Speaker 4: They did one one year, one the next year, one
Speaker 4: six months later, and ramped up. So it's possible that
Speaker 4: he waited for a year. But it's also possible that
Speaker 4: there are other victims that we don't know about.
Speaker 2: It would be horrifying for parents do not be able
Speaker 2: to find their children, regardless of what has happened to them,
Speaker 2: you know, to not know anything. It would be very,
Speaker 2: very difficult.
Speaker 7: The best way to describe hers is through her sister.
Speaker 7: The way she described Cynthia was a very trusting, you know,
Speaker 7: a bit of a happy It sounds like, you know,
Speaker 7: she was quite the pleasant person.
Speaker 4: Cynthia seemed to struggle at times with cocaine addiction and
Speaker 4: also would engage in sex work is a way to
Speaker 4: supplement her income. On September the tenth, two thousand, Cynthia
Speaker 4: Moss was murdered, leaving behind one child to now be
Speaker 4: without a mom.
Speaker 1: Moss is found in a wooded park in Prince George.
Speaker 8: One of Legebokov's socks is found to contain DNA matching Cynthia's.
Speaker 8: Her DNA is also found on an axe in Ledgebahkov's bedroom.
Speaker 1: What we see with the brutal murder of miss Moss
Speaker 1: is just pure aggression and violence coming out. We have
Speaker 1: seen his violence with animals and the way that he
Speaker 1: hunts and the way he kills with his hands. We
Speaker 1: hope that we don't see that move to a human being,
Speaker 1: but we do with the victim of Moss.
Speaker 4: These three victims are clearly targeted. I believe they're vulnerable,
Speaker 4: and they're individuals that Cody knows he can hand take
Speaker 4: advantage of.
Speaker 1: Most of his victims are mothers who now leave behind
Speaker 1: children who will never see the smile the affection of
Speaker 1: their mother again.
Speaker 8: Ledgibokhov arranged to meet Lauren Leslie less than three months
Speaker 8: after murdering Cynthia Moss. Lauren had no way of knowing
Speaker 8: that the guys she met online was already a serial killer,
Speaker 8: because until he met Lauren, he'd gotten away with it.
Speaker 7: I'm certain that Cody Legebokov was really counting on nobody
Speaker 7: finding Laura Lesley's body. The way he was trying to
Speaker 7: get away from the scene, it sounded like he had
Speaker 7: a probably a lot of guilt on his mind, a
Speaker 7: lot of fear.
Speaker 5: It's challenging for those that go missing that maybe on
Speaker 5: the street and maybe do not have ragilar content act
Speaker 5: with loved ones. It also speaks to how uh incredibly
Speaker 5: fortunate that that rhamp officer on the on the on
Speaker 5: the road was, because if they hadn't caught him that night,
Speaker 5: they likely wouldn't have caught him for a while.
Speaker 7: The way the bodies were positioned and the injuries that
Speaker 7: they suffered, and what he did to them afterwards, you know,
Speaker 7: it was all it was definitely the signs of the pattern.
Speaker 1: If he was not stopped, would we have the ability
Speaker 1: to catch this individual because he is moving on from
Speaker 1: people being involved women being involved in the sex trade
Speaker 1: to people who are not involved in the sex trade.
Speaker 1: We often like to put our serial killers in a
Speaker 1: box where we can find that these similar characteristics are
Speaker 1: telling us of giving us some sort of profile or
Speaker 1: indication of where he she may go next. This switch
Speaker 1: up is a difficult one to take, and thank goodness
Speaker 1: he was taken into custody.
Speaker 3: It's bittersweet because I mean, it's terrible to have a
Speaker 3: child gone, but that she was a catalyst to stop him,
Speaker 3: that was the good part.
Speaker 4: One of the really impressive things about the story is
Speaker 4: that Lauren Leslie's family has said a couple of times
Speaker 4: that the one thing they've held on to is the
Speaker 4: fact that their daughter's murder prevented additional murders and that
Speaker 4: that has been somewhat comforting to them. And I am
Speaker 4: sure that if they had not caught him at this point,
Speaker 4: he would have continued to murder until he was caught.
Speaker 3: During court, we were pretty much all together, so many
Speaker 3: people were impacted by it.
Speaker 7: He was living with three girls, and one of the
Speaker 7: girls testified that she saw him his nose was bleeding
Speaker 7: into a toilet and she said, Cody, you know, just
Speaker 7: kind of warned him, like, you're doing way too much cocaine.
Speaker 6: He was a bit of a puzzle.
Speaker 7: I remember during that during the trial, there was a
Speaker 7: you know, a sex worker who supplied drugs to them,
Speaker 7: and she said, yeah, I owe you three hundred bucks
Speaker 7: and he said, oh, don't worry about it. You know,
Speaker 7: I'll catch you on the rebound. I just don't quite understand.
Speaker 7: I think it was a little bit of probably a
Speaker 7: bit impulsive.
Speaker 8: Friends of Jill Stachinko, Natasha Montgomery, and Cynthia Moss also
Speaker 8: testify in court.
Speaker 7: They really wanted to get their stories out and really.
Speaker 6: They were scared.
Speaker 7: They were really worried that they could be the next victim,
Speaker 7: and I think they really wanted to put them away.
Speaker 6: Pretty much.
Speaker 7: The first thing that the Crown prosecutor says was, we
Speaker 7: have three thousand pages of forensic evidence. You know, they
Speaker 7: weren't going to miss a beat on this one basically said, well, uh,
Speaker 7: these three women were in trouble with the local drug
Speaker 7: dealers and uh, you know they wanted to get them
Speaker 7: because they owed them money. Uh and a mister X
Speaker 7: and a mister Y and a mister Z. Uh said, Cody,
Speaker 7: you got to help us out. He said that he was.
Speaker 7: He was the one who handed them in the weapons,
Speaker 7: and they these characters actually did did these three n
Speaker 7: and uh disposed of the bodies? It was it was,
Speaker 7: you know, so outrageous and so ridiculous.
Speaker 8: Ledja Bokoff has another explanation for Lauren's death.
Speaker 1: He claims that her death is because she brought a
Speaker 1: knife with her and self inflicted this harm on herself.
Speaker 7: She you know, somehow escaped from the track and she
Speaker 7: was doing this to her stall and he decided, well, okay,
Speaker 7: she's done for I'm.
Speaker 6: Going to just put her out of her messy with
Speaker 6: us wrench.
Speaker 4: He truly seems to have a lack of understanding about
Speaker 4: normal emotions, and he also seems to have a limited
Speaker 4: ability to feel them. You know, when you hear him
Speaker 4: talk about the murders, there's just no sense of emotion, remorse, regret, guilt,
Speaker 4: or any of the things that we would hope to see.
Speaker 7: He was going to roll the dice and see if
Speaker 7: he could fool everybody.
Speaker 8: The jury are considering their verdict. At Legebokov's murder trial,
Speaker 8: his defense claimed Lauren Leslie tried to take her own
Speaker 8: life and that three unnamed individuals are responsible for the
Speaker 8: murders of Jill Stachinko, Natasha Montgomery, and Cynthia Moss.
Speaker 1: Ledger Balkoff is convicted in September of twenty fourteen of
Speaker 1: four counts of murder.
Speaker 4: I think what's interesting is how rare it is for
Speaker 4: a serial killer to start in their teens, and I
Speaker 4: think that speaks to the level of depravity to some extent.
Speaker 4: And Cody about fourteen percent of serial killers start in
Speaker 4: their teens.
Speaker 1: Remember, the brain does not fully form until about age
Speaker 1: twenty five, so he has the impulsivity of a teenager
Speaker 1: with the anger that's developed that usually doesn't make its
Speaker 1: way to criminal activity of this nature until one is
Speaker 1: in their late twenties or thirties. That shows itself in
Speaker 1: the aggressive nature of how these people were killed.
Speaker 4: I think that we often do tend to look primarily
Speaker 4: at circumstances, trauma and those kinds of things, and I
Speaker 4: think it's easy to forget that there are people who
Speaker 4: seem to for whatever reason biologically to seem to have
Speaker 4: something missing, and I do think that Cody is an
Speaker 4: example of that.
Speaker 5: I would say he's a predator. He prayed on the week,
Speaker 5: he prayed on the most vulnerable, and he took full
Speaker 5: advantages of their disadvantages as his methods and modus operandi
Speaker 5: kind of evolved with their others.
Speaker 7: What they do is they give prisoners a bit of
Speaker 7: a faint hope as a way to make them behave
Speaker 7: themselves and kind of do the right things and you know,
Speaker 7: not being corrigible and not make it difficult or on
Speaker 7: the staff. It gives him that a bit of incentive
Speaker 7: and keeps amount of trouble.
Speaker 1: It seems he's following the rules and therefore he is
Speaker 1: rewarded with being in a less secure prison. What that
Speaker 1: means more privileges, a better environment. Years is a long time.
Speaker 1: Some people become institutionalized and follow the rules and make
Speaker 1: their way toward rehabilitation. Others take the time to simply say,
Speaker 1: let me go along with this, let me play the
Speaker 1: game if you will, and do my time and then
Speaker 1: go back to whatever.
Speaker 3: I just want him to stay in jail for the
Speaker 3: rest of his life. I'm working with MPs to try
Speaker 3: to get him back in maximum security where he belongs.
Speaker 6: I think a lot of.
Speaker 7: People are very angry that this has happened, just on principle,
Speaker 7: the whole turmoil that he caused these people.
Speaker 5: I've raised this in Parliament a number of times as
Speaker 5: Cody has gone through the system. You know, how can
Speaker 5: correct this? Canada transfer this horrific killer, Canada's youngest serial killer.
Speaker 5: He's shown no signs of remorse, still holds the information
Speaker 5: to whereabout so one of his victims. You know, when
Speaker 5: you speak with the victims' families, it's absolutely heartbreaking and
Speaker 5: overwhelmingly the question is who fights for us? Where's our voice?
Speaker 5: You know, it's just you can't help but get emotional
Speaker 5: and get drawn into it.
Speaker 4: We've never seen any remorse from this person. This is
Speaker 4: somebody who to this day is saying he didn't do it.
Speaker 4: He's blaming it on three other people. There's no evidence
Speaker 4: that even exist, and so when you look at risk
Speaker 4: factors for recidivism, they're all over the place. I think
Speaker 4: he has the capacity to kill again.
Speaker 3: How many more are there actually out there that he
Speaker 3: has murdered. I don't think it's done. You can't learn
Speaker 3: that you have to be born that way because you
Speaker 3: can't learn that evil.
Speaker 4: I think the word psychopath gets used and overused all
Speaker 4: the time. I have not personally evaluated him, but I
Speaker 4: will tell you there is something about him I think
Speaker 4: that is very scary.
Speaker 5: We have so many people that seemingly just disappear in
Speaker 5: our neck of the woods, and there's lots of different
Speaker 5: there resis to what's happening with that. Did he use
Speaker 5: that as a cover, did that motivate him? Did that
Speaker 5: fuel him to try it himself? That's something to ask
Speaker 5: Cody Lejah Balkoff, And I don't think he'll ever tell that.
Speaker 3: Lauren was kind of a free spirit and we didn't
Speaker 3: worry about her when probably we should have worried about
Speaker 3: her more. And you know, you take it for granted
Speaker 3: that people are what you see, but they're not really.
Speaker 3: We got to pay more attention to our kids, for sure.
Speaker 2: Definitely has affected everyone around people that I never knew
Speaker 2: before that I've come in contact know about Lauren.
Speaker 4: Certainly, it's made an impact.
Speaker 2: What would she be doing today if she was still here,
Speaker 2: she would still be going around helping people. That's what
Speaker 2: she would be doing. In some way or another. I
Speaker 2: try not to think about that. It's too much to
Speaker 2: think about it.
Speaker 6: To do what you want me