Speaker 1: Or whatever. Yes, okay, well live, Hey guys, welcome back
Speaker 1: to another episode of the Typical Skeptic Podcast. I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry for the delays. I would call it, you know,
Speaker 1: targeting or government interference or I don't know, entity interference.
Speaker 1: I'm not even short to know at this point, but
Speaker 1: all kinds of computer issues and everything else like so,
Speaker 1: but regardless, to say, the good news is we're here.
Speaker 1: And who I have with me. I have an all
Speaker 1: star cast day. I have with me making his first
Speaker 1: appearance ever. I had with me Matthew Bustos, and then
Speaker 1: I have from the other side of the pond, I
Speaker 1: have with me Michael Cameron. And then I also have
Speaker 1: with me the amazing Olivia James. And I also have
Speaker 1: with me Nathan Sizzek, my good friend and podcast buddy.
Speaker 1: We do a lot of shows together. So today all
Speaker 1: four of them are They're going to do an amazing
Speaker 1: presentation for you guys. They're gonna be presenting a lot
Speaker 1: of different topics and stuff. And I'll try to share
Speaker 1: this link out now to you know, all the all
Speaker 1: the links to the stream yard so everybody gets to
Speaker 1: be able to join in and everything. But thank you
Speaker 1: everybody for joining me. How is everybody tonight?
Speaker 2: Thank you really good?
Speaker 3: Thanks bye?
Speaker 2: It is Michael.
Speaker 1: Hello, So who wants to start off? And like where
Speaker 1: does this?
Speaker 4: I'll start, I'll start. So I was kind of going
Speaker 4: to explain like a little bit how I was. Me
Speaker 4: and Matthew have been kind of practicing sessions, and so
Speaker 4: we had sessions with both Nathan and Michael, and I
Speaker 4: just want to kind of explain like some of the
Speaker 4: abilities it takes to do these sessions. I'm using just
Speaker 4: different things that I've learned. I work a lot with
Speaker 4: Misha Johnson, and she's actually helped me kind of progress
Speaker 4: in a lot of my psychic abilities and other skills.
Speaker 4: But it's really it's not channeling, because I think some
Speaker 4: people get confused. If I'm channeling, it's called hosting. And
Speaker 4: I also use bylocation. I'm also doing trance medium ship,
Speaker 4: so and when I'm doing that by local, I'm sometimes
Speaker 4: using that ghost dimension because I can see ghosts and
Speaker 4: they can see me like I'm just like a normal person.
Speaker 4: And a lot of it now that I'm doing is
Speaker 4: called remote viewing, So that's a new skill that I'm learning.
Speaker 4: So we were able to go very far with some
Speaker 4: of the sessions and they came out really amazing. We've
Speaker 4: got some of the most intriguing information I've ever seen,
Speaker 4: and we were able. I was able to travel very
Speaker 4: far to some of the outer realms that I haven't
Speaker 4: been to before. So I think it's really interesting. So
Speaker 4: I'm going to let these guys kind of start and
Speaker 4: then I'll chime in as much as I remember from
Speaker 4: doing it, because you know, they kind of have the words,
Speaker 4: but I was the one that kind of saw it,
Speaker 4: so I can always, you know, kind of give more
Speaker 4: additional information and details based on what I saw when
Speaker 4: I was doing the remote viewing.
Speaker 1: For So, let me ask you where you were you, facilitator.
Speaker 1: Were you kind of like being like the were you
Speaker 1: the were you doing like a hypnosis on them in this?
Speaker 1: In this? In this?
Speaker 4: You know, I was the one. I'm the one under
Speaker 4: hypnotic trance doing this. So so I'm doing the hypnotic trance.
Speaker 4: Matthew's helping me do kind of the induction, and I'll
Speaker 4: go and I'll travel to whereever I'm pulled. You know,
Speaker 4: sometimes I get a connection to something somebody says, to
Speaker 4: their home or to one of their loved ones. Something
Speaker 4: like that, or even sometimes an entity that wants to speak,
Speaker 4: I'll kind of just my body will just be pulled
Speaker 4: to where that is. It's like almost putting a coordinate
Speaker 4: in your head and you just you'd go. It wooshes you.
Speaker 4: It's almost like a woosh. I'm just there in a second.
Speaker 4: It's really amazing.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing. That's really cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I guess I'll let Matt start with his
Speaker 4: but I can try. Like I said, I'll chime in
Speaker 4: and back up everyone when they need additional details.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you all right, it sounds good, how everybody.
Speaker 5: I'm Matthew Bustos. I'm actually a physical, evidential medium, so
Speaker 5: I'm coming at this from a totally spiritual side, just
Speaker 5: kind of what I know and what I've learned based
Speaker 5: you know, over the years of experiencing. Everything that I
Speaker 5: have on. My story is a little unique. It started
Speaker 5: when I turned forty two years old. Basically, I had
Speaker 5: a premonition about the number forty two ten years prior
Speaker 5: to my forty second birthday, and I always thought that
Speaker 5: something strange was going to happen to me at that time,
Speaker 5: and it kind of stuck with me. I'd you know,
Speaker 5: joke around with my friends and stuff like that, being
Speaker 5: like it was a countdown to D Day because I
Speaker 5: wasn't sure what was going to happen. Like at that time,
Speaker 5: I didn't believe in psychics and mediums and anything like
Speaker 5: that whatsoever.
Speaker 2: I was just a normal person.
Speaker 5: And on my forty second birthday, I woke up and
Speaker 5: I had walked out of my bedroom to go make
Speaker 5: some coffee.
Speaker 2: In the kitchen.
Speaker 5: There's a glass sliding door that I had just installed,
Speaker 5: and I saw these handprints all over the glass and
Speaker 5: they were not normal handprints. They were like a child's
Speaker 5: hand prints, right, So I started taking pictures of them,
Speaker 5: and as I was doing this, all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: I was able to see entities on the other side
Speaker 5: of the class. Just spirits were starting to form all
Speaker 5: over on the other side of this class, and I
Speaker 5: was kind of just like frozen in fear. At the time,
Speaker 5: I didn't know what I was experiencing. I kind of
Speaker 5: find out I had fallen into it, like a transike state,
Speaker 5: and that's kind of how the beginning of everything happened
Speaker 5: for me with it. I do have some pictures I
Speaker 5: could show and share with you guys, this first image
Speaker 5: is actually the very first picture that I ever saw
Speaker 5: of spirits on the other side.
Speaker 2: And I want to share that with you real quick.
Speaker 5: Here one second, see if I can share this on
Speaker 5: the screen here, Robert, see if this pops up here, let's.
Speaker 1: See you're at your screen. Share and that's great.
Speaker 2: There we go.
Speaker 5: Okay, So this, this photo here is basically what I
Speaker 5: saw that that first day of me and able to
Speaker 5: see into the spiritual world, and this is what was
Speaker 5: forming on the other side of the glass for me.
Speaker 5: So if you look on the right hand side towards
Speaker 5: the bottom, you see that female spirit there. So they
Speaker 5: were appearing like smoke. For me, I was seeing black
Speaker 5: smoke as they were appearing, and I wasn't sure what
Speaker 5: was happening. I just kind of sat there, you know,
Speaker 5: looking at these entities forming on the other side. And
Speaker 5: I didn't realize at the time, but I had fallen
Speaker 5: into like a trance like state. And that's kind of
Speaker 5: how my gifts work, right, So as I was sitting
Speaker 5: there looking at all this stuff, I kind of freaked
Speaker 5: out walked away from it. I sat down and started
Speaker 5: reviewing my photos and come to find out everything that
Speaker 5: I was seeing was still, you know, on my camera.
Speaker 5: So when I was looking with my physical eyes, I
Speaker 5: couldn't actually see any of these spirits, you know, with
Speaker 5: my physical eyes. But when I looked through my camera
Speaker 5: of the phone that I was holding at the time,
Speaker 5: I was able to see like reality change in a way.
Speaker 5: So everything that I was experiencing was like almost like
Speaker 5: going into the spirit world that way.
Speaker 2: So does that make sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing. It's amazing.
Speaker 5: Okay, one second, Sorry about that. Trying to figure out
Speaker 5: how to get it back in here. Sorry, I guess
Speaker 5: there we go. So, as I was seeing these spirits
Speaker 5: and everything, I started experiencing it for like eight months
Speaker 5: of just kind of being scared of everything that I
Speaker 5: was seeing. They were appearing all around me. I didn't
Speaker 5: understand it. I had to do a lot of research
Speaker 5: into spiritual gifts and mediumship gifts and psychic gifts and
Speaker 5: stuff like that, and come to find out what I
Speaker 5: was doing was a combination of physical mediumship and something
Speaker 5: that wasn't seen before. Usually, physical mediumship was done in
Speaker 5: popular like in the eighteen nineties, and they used to
Speaker 5: do seances back then where they'd have the medium sit
Speaker 5: inside of a cabinet, and they'd use an audience that
Speaker 5: would produce energy for the medium, and this medium would
Speaker 5: produce ectoplasm, okay, And what would happen is that ectoplasm
Speaker 5: that they produce is what the spirit world is able
Speaker 5: to use to make themselves visible in our reality. So
Speaker 5: the type of gifts that I have, I'm able to
Speaker 5: materialize spirits basically for people to see once again but
Speaker 5: from the other side, so they're able to cross dimensions
Speaker 5: from their side to our side to make themselves visible.
Speaker 5: But my gift only works through electronic devices, so to speak.
Speaker 5: So any phone that I'm holding or any electronic device
Speaker 5: that I'm holding, I'm able to see into the spirit
Speaker 5: realm that way. And I could actually show you a
Speaker 5: few more photos here what I'm talking about. A lot
Speaker 5: of these photos were of basically just the first experiences
Speaker 5: that I had, beginning in the first eight months. So
Speaker 5: this one here that I'm going to share with you
Speaker 5: is a photo of a spirit. I was just sitting
Speaker 5: in the room, and they appear like energy, almost like
Speaker 5: energy holograms for me. So this is a woman's spirit
Speaker 5: that's just sitting on the bed right across from you
Speaker 5: can almost see through her? Can you make her out?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's weird. Right.
Speaker 5: You can see her hands, her arms, her elbow, and
Speaker 5: her shoulders, her face, everything.
Speaker 1: And why do you think this is coming through Matt? Like,
Speaker 1: what do you think is causing? Do you think it's
Speaker 1: an ability you have or do you feel like you've
Speaker 1: opened a portal? Or what do you think is? How
Speaker 1: do you think this is happening?
Speaker 5: Okay, So yeah, I didn't understand it at all, right,
Speaker 5: And a lot of people that I talked to in
Speaker 5: the beginning didn't have any way to explain it to
Speaker 5: me because physical mediumship is a very very rare gift.
Speaker 5: There's only a handful of physical mediums that are actually
Speaker 5: practicing today that are doing it publicly. It's a really
Speaker 5: taboo type of mediumship. So what I realized is that
Speaker 5: all this black smoke that I was seeing was actually
Speaker 5: what's called ectoplasm that I produce, right, and it comes
Speaker 5: out of my body, So it comes out of like
Speaker 5: the pores of my skin. And what the sphere world
Speaker 5: does is they are able to use this substance and
Speaker 5: manipulate it in their realm to make themselves physical in
Speaker 5: our realm. So I'm going to go back to another
Speaker 5: photo here real quick, and I'll show you exactly what
Speaker 5: I mean by that. The ectoplasm that I produced in
Speaker 5: these photos is actually coming out of my pant legs
Speaker 5: and it appears like a black, smoky Suthence, So when
Speaker 5: I first started seeing this stuff, I really wasn't sure,
Speaker 5: you know, what was going on until I actually got
Speaker 5: to know the two guides that were.
Speaker 2: Kind of trying to teach me everything that I know today.
Speaker 2: Can you see that?
Speaker 1: What am I?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 5: Those are actually my pant legs and if you look,
Speaker 5: that black smoke is coming off of my pant legs.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I see that, Yeah, I do see that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's interesting.
Speaker 5: So that's the ectoplasm that I'm able to produce as
Speaker 5: a physical medium that I didn't realize in the beginning
Speaker 5: that I was doing.
Speaker 1: So this is unheard of. I've never heard of anybody
Speaker 1: being able to do this, and rarely people come with receipts.
Speaker 1: So this is really amazing evidence. Thank you. This is awesome,
Speaker 1: Like this is blown away you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was crazy, man.
Speaker 5: It honestly took me like eight months of being scared
Speaker 5: out of my mind to be honest, when this happened,
Speaker 5: like I had no idea what was going on, like
Speaker 5: at all. It really freaked me out. I'd pull out
Speaker 5: my phone at night. I'd be sitting there in the
Speaker 5: room and all of a sudden, I just see full
Speaker 5: body images of spirits, you know, materializing like everywhere around
Speaker 5: me at one time. And I had no idea what
Speaker 5: was happening until I started searching through like all the
Speaker 5: photos during my sessions. Right, So, like when i'd have
Speaker 5: a session and I connect, I'd fall into like a
Speaker 5: trans like state, and this trans like state it would
Speaker 5: allow me to connect to that spirit world. But I
Speaker 5: wasn't able to remember anything after the sessions. It was
Speaker 5: like it was wiped completely from my mind afterwards. So
Speaker 5: I'd have to go back in and look at all
Speaker 5: the photos and kind of go through everything until I
Speaker 5: could figure out what was happening. And when I was
Speaker 5: doing this, I came to find two spirits that were
Speaker 5: in every single photo that I had, And I'm going
Speaker 5: to show those here real quick now.
Speaker 1: So the ask you this, when when did this start
Speaker 1: happening for you? What do you think brought this on
Speaker 1: before you? Before you do that, like sometimes people have
Speaker 1: a traumatic accident that brings things on. Some people have
Speaker 1: a Kunduini experience that brings things on. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of things. Or it could be something with your age
Speaker 1: where you got to a certain point your abilities, what
Speaker 1: that brought it on? I mean, do you have have
Speaker 1: you ever thought about what might have started to bring
Speaker 1: this ability on?
Speaker 5: So so, I remember as a kid being real, real
Speaker 5: scared of things that I would see around the house.
Speaker 5: I was raised by my grandparents, and I remember I
Speaker 5: was so little when I was seeing these spirits around.
Speaker 5: Now that I know that their spirits. Anyway, I wasn't
Speaker 5: even able to reach like the light switch in the room.
Speaker 5: So I'd be like going to the restroom or something
Speaker 5: like that and I couldn't reach the lights. But I'd
Speaker 5: see people standing in the living room and I'd get
Speaker 5: scared because.
Speaker 2: I was real little man.
Speaker 5: I was probably like five or six years old, and
Speaker 5: I can run running back, and you know, my grandparents
Speaker 5: would just be like, Oh, it's all in your mind.
Speaker 5: You're just being scared of the dark. But come to
Speaker 5: find out now, I think that those abilities I had
Speaker 5: back then as a kid, and they were kind of suppressed,
Speaker 5: and I think they were suppressed by people, you know,
Speaker 5: people just not believing me in that realm and teaching you, hey,
Speaker 5: this stuff isn't real. It's an imaginary. You're just letting
Speaker 5: your mind get away from you. And it was completely
Speaker 5: something that wasn't that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is amazing. So I mean, this is I'm
Speaker 1: blown away, Like I didn't realize we were going to
Speaker 1: get into this. This is amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it totally is.
Speaker 5: Like it's it's really hard to explained to people. So,
Speaker 5: like on my Facebook page, I started off real slow.
Speaker 5: This stuff happened to me in twenty seventeen. So I've
Speaker 5: been practicing now for like seven years. And like I said,
Speaker 5: when it first happened, I didn't understand. It took me
Speaker 5: about eight months to kind of get a fill for it.
Speaker 5: And what would happen is I'd connect, these spirits would
Speaker 5: form around me, and I noticed that my.
Speaker 2: Two spirit guides.
Speaker 5: I had two spirits that were in every photo that
Speaker 5: I took that I review right, and they started communicating
Speaker 5: with me. So I have a spirit guide whose name
Speaker 5: is Lily May. She's a five year old little girl,
Speaker 5: and another one who's a twenty six year old Native
Speaker 5: American girl named Laila, And they're the ones that are
Speaker 5: actually doing all of this, so they use me as
Speaker 5: a bridge. I'm a bridge basically between those two realms.
Speaker 5: They're the ones who bring everything through. They just use
Speaker 5: me as a vessel pretty much. So they shook me
Speaker 5: so many things. Man. I was able to open portals
Speaker 5: into that realm even and I have photos of that
Speaker 5: as well. But I spent probably about five years of
Speaker 5: just connecting and trying to learn about that realm as
Speaker 5: much as possible and understand it for myself because I
Speaker 5: couldn't find anybody else that was familiar with this type
Speaker 5: of mediumship. Nobody has really ever seen this before, so
Speaker 5: it was very new, very hard to understand, and it
Speaker 5: was quite the journey, you know. Now it's completely different
Speaker 5: for me. I mean, I do so much good work
Speaker 5: with bringing loved ones through for people doing readings and
Speaker 5: things like that where they can actually physically see their
Speaker 5: loved ones now during a Facebook live session with me.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's amazing. So let me ask you this
Speaker 1: real quick before we get into it. This is a
Speaker 1: really important question. So how has this affected your opinion
Speaker 1: of what happens to us when we die like because
Speaker 1: some people think that, you know, we're in a reincarnation cycle,
Speaker 1: which we could be. You know, it's like you know,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot that goes into that. But I mean,
Speaker 1: do you feel like some spirits don't reincarnate, some hang back,
Speaker 1: some take around, or some have jobs to do or
Speaker 1: something like that, and that's why you're able to be
Speaker 1: in touch with these things or what do you think?
Speaker 5: You know, I'm still trying to understand that, you know,
Speaker 5: the best that I can as far as you know,
Speaker 5: everything that I've seen, you know, we're energy on that side.
Speaker 5: Everything is based on frequency and vibration. So I think
Speaker 5: that when we pass that we're just this eternal energy,
Speaker 5: we're always going to be around. We keep the personality
Speaker 5: that we have. And that's kind of what I seen
Speaker 5: working with spirits over this time, is that it's just
Speaker 5: a completely different realm. It's almost layered on top of
Speaker 5: our reality right now. So it's here, it's physically here
Speaker 5: with us. We're just unable to see it because it's
Speaker 5: at a higher frequency and vibration. Then we're able to
Speaker 5: you know, pick up and visually see For some reason,
Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm able to vibrate higher than
Speaker 5: a normal person, So I'm able to kind of cross
Speaker 5: that dimension and see into that realm. But that's kind
Speaker 5: of what's happening. That's that's what I figured out, is
Speaker 5: I'm able to just connect with that realm, see into it,
Speaker 5: and capture on photos what I'm seeing. So I did
Speaker 5: ask them, like at one time, like how does this
Speaker 5: gift work for me?
Speaker 2: Because I didn't really understand it.
Speaker 5: And I used to take pictures of smoke and I
Speaker 5: used to see spirits in the smoke. And I remember
Speaker 5: I had a session. I had just asked that a question,
Speaker 5: and during that session, I had taken three photos and
Speaker 5: they had Actually I'm going to share this photo with
Speaker 5: you because this is kind of what showed me how
Speaker 5: my gift worked after you know, asking them, and what
Speaker 5: this is is they showed me this photo. So I
Speaker 5: ended up snapping these.
Speaker 2: So this photo is me.
Speaker 5: So what this answered for me is that I was
Speaker 5: able to ask or project.
Speaker 2: Myself and what I was saying.
Speaker 5: With my spiritual eyes, I was able to capture on
Speaker 5: camera and my physical body here, So that's actually a
Speaker 5: picture of me in my spirit form.
Speaker 1: Holy fuck man, that's insane.
Speaker 2: Can you see the resemblance in the face and everything
Speaker 2: the beer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely, that's amazing, man.
Speaker 6: So that the face that little girl is below you,
Speaker 6: that's just a picture on the wall.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Oh, I was just gonna say, is that another because
Speaker 1: there's a couple of them that looks like there could
Speaker 1: be like ET's or something.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot of spirits actually in this photo.
Speaker 5: If you don't have to look at it, if you
Speaker 5: re lecture, I'll see a lot of a lot of
Speaker 5: stuff happening in here.
Speaker 2: But you know it.
Speaker 5: The way it explained to me, like I say, is
Speaker 5: I was I was taking the photo and I was
Speaker 5: posing for the photo at the same time. So it
Speaker 5: made me realize I was allowed to be in two
Speaker 5: places at once.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question, Matt, can you still
Speaker 1: hear me? I don't know if I'm muted or not.
Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Now? I thought I was muted.
Speaker 1: I didn't know I was going to say, do you
Speaker 1: ever see like intermingling between the et world and the
Speaker 1: in the sphere world. The reason why I asked is
Speaker 1: because it looks like there's like I can, like I said,
Speaker 1: I can spot some ets out in this picture. But
Speaker 1: do you ever see like a mixing of the blending
Speaker 1: of the two or you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Absolutely I do, and I have some photos of that
Speaker 5: as well, and I'll put those up for you real quick.
Speaker 5: So I was able to open portals, is what they
Speaker 5: showed me, and I'm going to share that with you
Speaker 5: real quick now.
Speaker 2: So this is a photo I took when I connected.
Speaker 1: If you look at that's insane.
Speaker 5: So that's what it looks like for me when I connect.
Speaker 5: So I'm looking through my phone, and like I say,
Speaker 5: if I'm looking with my eyes, the reality of nothing changes.
Speaker 5: But when I concentrate through the phone, what I'm looking
Speaker 5: at physically changes on the phone. So it's like I'm
Speaker 5: able to go into a different reality while I'm concentrating
Speaker 5: my energy and focus through any electronic device and I'm
Speaker 5: holding So this is the way I saw of how
Speaker 5: it looked when you go into the spear world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just say real quick, Olivia, Michael or Nate,
Speaker 1: does anybody have anything to I know I've been talking
Speaker 1: a lot, so no.
Speaker 4: After after he does his picks, then we'll kind of
Speaker 4: chime in with some stories.
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, So that's the portal one. And then let's
Speaker 5: see here one second. You were talking about the ets, right, yeah,
Speaker 5: so I would open up these portals. I was experiencing
Speaker 5: things that were coming through, and uh, as far as
Speaker 5: I know, like these these are definitely ET's that I
Speaker 5: was I was experiencing, And let me.
Speaker 2: Find that photo for your reput here.
Speaker 5: So I know some one might be a little bit
Speaker 5: tough to see, but these are all entities that appeared
Speaker 5: right in front of me in the room. They look
Speaker 5: almost like shadow forms, but the way they would appear
Speaker 5: was like almost like liquid metal and color. I know
Speaker 5: this is a little bit tough to make out, guys,
Speaker 5: and I'm sorry about that. I mean, if you if
Speaker 5: you're able to zoom in, can you see that if
Speaker 5: I zoom in a little bit?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, So if you look.
Speaker 5: Right here, that's actually a face right up towards the
Speaker 5: top here, I'll move. I don't know if you can
Speaker 5: kind of make that out. It's it's pretty dark, but
Speaker 5: the whole like background and everything opened up into a
Speaker 5: different reality there.
Speaker 1: So all the stuff is like a different reality, is
Speaker 1: that right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, So so they materialize in front of me, So
Speaker 5: let me show you one more here and I'll see
Speaker 5: if you can see this one a little bit, the.
Speaker 4: Four sequence transfiguration.
Speaker 2: If you can the which one.
Speaker 4: The transfiguration of the woman that for four picture sequence?
Speaker 2: Gotcha, Okay, I know which one you're talking about.
Speaker 5: Yeah. These maybe be a little bit tough to see
Speaker 5: because you know, there's just let's see hold on one second, guys, I.
Speaker 6: Just when it adds and I think what it's it's
Speaker 6: important for everybody who's looking at these images to remember
Speaker 6: these aren't being photographed with the lens of the cell phone.
Speaker 6: This is you holding your phone and your mind, your
Speaker 6: your spirit putting this into the files of your of
Speaker 6: your phone in the form of an image.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So so here's here's.
Speaker 5: Some photos I can show you of what it looks
Speaker 5: like during the materialization of a spirit. So that ectoplasm
Speaker 5: that I was talking about, if you look at this,
Speaker 5: this is a spirit actually forming through that ectoplasm.
Speaker 2: So when they when they draw it out of my body,
Speaker 2: they form like little by little. Okay, So this is
Speaker 2: the body.
Speaker 5: You could see the body, and then the head is
Speaker 5: just black smoke, and that's it's like a push and
Speaker 5: pull system.
Speaker 2: So right, towards the right. You can see the spirit's
Speaker 2: face forming in this photo.
Speaker 1: That person or is that a regular spirit?
Speaker 5: Would you say, well, this is actually the first time
Speaker 5: my guides had ever materialized for me real, So.
Speaker 1: I'll show you the when ask you were a legitimate question,
Speaker 1: were you ever scared when the shit started happening to you?
Speaker 1: Because I would be freaked out, honestly.
Speaker 5: Man, I couldn't tell you like how scared I was.
Speaker 5: It took me, like I said, like eight months to
Speaker 5: not be scared of it, to kind of just kind
Speaker 5: of go with the flow and everything and learn about it.
Speaker 5: So this is the second photo of that same materialization.
Speaker 5: You could see the neck area forming and where the
Speaker 5: face would kind of be. The face is still kind
Speaker 5: of smoke here. Can you make that out?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 5: And then there's just two more I'm going to share
Speaker 5: with you, and that's basically when they form fully.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, this stuff was scaring me because.
Speaker 5: I didn't understand it, and I'd only get to a
Speaker 5: certain point and then I'd stop connecting because I didn't
Speaker 5: know what was coming through at first. Right, So as
Speaker 5: there those two photos that I shared right there, this
Speaker 5: is like the next step, and these were taking in
Speaker 5: sequence as I was connected.
Speaker 2: So now you can.
Speaker 5: See the face starting to form and come through the
Speaker 5: materialization process.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: And like I say, it was scary at first until
Speaker 5: I let it happen. And once I let it happen,
Speaker 5: it was just a completely different story. It was like
Speaker 5: one of the most beautiful things that I had ever experienced,
Speaker 5: to be honest with. Wowt's see what was happening, and
Speaker 5: then this is the next one, and then there's just
Speaker 5: one more after this.
Speaker 2: So this is my guide Leila. Is she the American
Speaker 2: Indian guy? Yeah, she's a native American guide.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Lily May.
Speaker 4: You should touch on a little bit with Lily's picture
Speaker 4: about how you recorded her for that long recording with
Speaker 4: her voice which she was.
Speaker 2: Talking, and this is Leyla when she formed fully for me.
Speaker 1: Look at her hands. Oh my god, it's look bizarre,
Speaker 1: don't they you know?
Speaker 5: Yeah, So so it's like almost like an energy hologram
Speaker 5: the way they form.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is freaking me out. It's like
Speaker 1: proven that, like the paranormal is very real. You know
Speaker 1: that that that there's there's these other worldly realms really exist.
Speaker 1: You know, I never doubted it. Before. It's just I
Speaker 1: guess I was always always been skeptical, but I've always
Speaker 1: been open minded, and I've interviewed so many people I've
Speaker 1: never really you know, you don't see this kind of
Speaker 1: evidence on ghost shows. Let's put it that way. Like
Speaker 1: the people that are watching this show tonight are really
Speaker 1: lucky because you don't get to see stuff like this anywhere.
Speaker 1: So this is like really amazing, you know, this is uh,
Speaker 1: it's really it's really fascinating. Thank you so much. This
Speaker 1: is really awesome.
Speaker 2: So that no reason to be freaked out here. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I just have to say that. I mean, I get
Speaker 2: touched when I say this.
Speaker 5: So this one here is where she was going back
Speaker 5: through the spirit realm after after I was connected. So
Speaker 5: if you look, she she formed just like she was
Speaker 5: in life. Right, So if you look at her legs,
Speaker 5: like her legs are still smoke, her hands isn't formed
Speaker 5: yet in her heads disappearing back through almost like that
Speaker 5: portal into the sphere world.
Speaker 2: Now, this is the succubist. So that's the interesting thing.
Speaker 5: So do you think this woman, this one, this isn't
Speaker 5: the suckubist one?
Speaker 2: Oh I thought it was. No, So she does show
Speaker 2: up into onesie.
Speaker 4: Okay, can you show the front picture of Lily May
Speaker 4: with her pigtails.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, So that was the first time that my
Speaker 5: guye Leila had formed and then my spirit guy Lily May.
Speaker 5: This is the first photo that I ever took with
Speaker 5: her when I was connected astray, and it was the
Speaker 5: first time she had realized that I was actually able
Speaker 5: to see her. This is this is my little girl's
Speaker 5: fairit guide.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: And that's how clear I see them and I'm able
Speaker 5: to capture them when I'm connected.
Speaker 4: Tell them about how strong Lily May is, how she's
Speaker 4: able to disconnect you from discarnates that are kind.
Speaker 5: Of a Yeah, she's a little badass to be honest with.
Speaker 5: She's the one that keeps me protected from everything when
Speaker 5: I'm connected. So I've seen her with like a sword,
Speaker 5: like just like fighting off spirits that different times. So
Speaker 5: they act like almost like a bouncer at a nightclub,
Speaker 5: or are the people that take an ID at a nightclub.
Speaker 5: So it's like they'll stand on this side of what
Speaker 5: I call the veil. It's like an energy curtain, right,
Speaker 5: So I'm on the side with them, and through that
Speaker 5: curtain is the spirit realm. So they stand on this
Speaker 5: side with me and spirits will come through to try
Speaker 5: to make contact with me, and they make sure that
Speaker 5: they're safe for me to make contact with. They don't
Speaker 5: let anything through that's negative or bad for anything that
Speaker 5: I'm doing, which is a good thing.
Speaker 1: That's amazing.
Speaker 2: Wow, so many photos to share with you, man, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: This is great, This is great. I'm so intrigued.
Speaker 5: All right, let's see here. I'm just looking through these
Speaker 5: other photos real quicker. Okay, So here's another cool example
Speaker 5: of what it's like for me when I cross dimensions.
Speaker 5: So on that side, if you take a look at
Speaker 5: the photo, this is actually my legs going through the
Speaker 5: veil of what I was talking about.
Speaker 2: Now you see how they look like they're sliced up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: That on that side, I noticed that there's a team
Speaker 5: that I work with that that is working with me
Speaker 5: from that side to bring spirits through. So what I
Speaker 5: notice is they have like this bed area with like
Speaker 5: this light ring around it. And what they'll do is
Speaker 5: they'll have a spirit on that side lay in that
Speaker 5: bed and this light ring will bring them piece by
Speaker 5: piece into our reality to materialize. So when that happens,
Speaker 5: it's in sections, and this is when they were taking
Speaker 5: me to that side. If you could look, you see
Speaker 5: my legs, how they're in sections. They were bringing me
Speaker 5: piece by piece to their realm so to speak.
Speaker 1: Actually liked liked de materializing you to some extent.
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much that I mean. Yeah, when I first
Speaker 5: saw this, I freaked out because.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what was happening.
Speaker 5: But that's exactly what's happening. You could see like where
Speaker 5: my feet are that they're going through the veil right there, and.
Speaker 1: It makes sense, is like, but now I hear like
Speaker 1: when the people would talk about when they would be
Speaker 1: abducted and my gray aliens would be able to take
Speaker 1: them through walls and stuff like that, So it seems
Speaker 1: like the mirrors might be using the same kind of
Speaker 1: like technology or maybe there's a there's some kind of
Speaker 1: resonance that all the spirits and aliens are using, you know,
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm talking about though when people
Speaker 1: would talk about stuff like.
Speaker 5: That, Yeah, absolutely, And that's exactly what it felt. What
Speaker 5: it seems like because on that stuff, like I said,
Speaker 5: it was just like a metal bed and this ring
Speaker 5: around it and it would go from the base of
Speaker 5: their body, starting from their feet, and it would like
Speaker 5: cut them into a section and then they materialize and
Speaker 5: like the room that I was in, and piece by
Speaker 5: piece and section by section until was a complete materialization
Speaker 5: of a spirit.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty crazy experiences, man for sure.
Speaker 1: Amazing though, that's amazing.
Speaker 5: Let's see here what else I could share with you guys.
Speaker 5: Let's see so you know, after a while when I
Speaker 5: started working with them, they started coming through a lot,
Speaker 5: a lot lot clearer. And I'll show you an example
Speaker 5: of that. These are recent ones that I've taken. So
Speaker 5: if you look, this is a spirit that's actually coming
Speaker 5: from the spirit realm into our reality. She has her
Speaker 5: hands on the energy curtain of what I was calling
Speaker 5: the veil. Wow, see how it looks like just like
Speaker 5: blurriness around her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like she's in a car wash. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm trying to say. I guess I'm joking,
Speaker 1: but like you know what I mean, Like it's like
Speaker 1: she's coming through like a veil. You can tell you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, but like it's like you
Speaker 1: can tell that that was a bad That was a
Speaker 1: bad phnology by me. Like, but I mean you can
Speaker 1: tell she's coming through a veil or like a you know,
Speaker 1: like coming through like a you know, like it's it's
Speaker 1: like materializing from another realm.
Speaker 5: You know, absolutely, yeah, that's exactly what was happening in
Speaker 5: this one. And like I say, when I connecting, you know,
Speaker 5: these are just practice sessions that I was having for myself,
Speaker 5: so whatever would come through would come through. I wasn't
Speaker 5: quite sure what would happen. And like I say, after
Speaker 5: the session, I usually forget right away what I've experienced
Speaker 5: until the next day, and then I go through my
Speaker 5: photos and this is the type of stuff that I
Speaker 5: realized that I caught, and then I kind of have
Speaker 5: to make sense of everything as.
Speaker 2: It happens and put it all together.
Speaker 5: And that's what I spent I've spent the last seven
Speaker 5: years doing, is trying to make sense of that realm
Speaker 5: and what I'm experiencing and everything like that.
Speaker 1: Have you had more questions and answers though, I mean,
Speaker 1: because it seems like it seems like from what you
Speaker 1: showed me, I'm like worried about asking on NOU. I'm like,
Speaker 1: how complicated is the spirit world? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It seems like it might be like you know, like
Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff that the Tibetan Book of
Speaker 1: the Dead talks about, like you know, different bardoes and
Speaker 1: different realms and different I don't know, I'm so confused
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 5: But you know what I've learned from that side is
Speaker 5: that everybody's had a different frequency and vibration in your
Speaker 5: spirit personal right, So like that's like considered your higher self,
Speaker 5: your higher self, is you your main spirit that never
Speaker 5: leaves that spirit realm.
Speaker 2: It's always in that realm, so they know it. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So like the life that we're living right now,
Speaker 5: what I've learned is I'll give you an example. So,
Speaker 5: like imagine your higher self there never leaves. That higher
Speaker 5: self breaks off the little pieces of itself, right, and
Speaker 5: everything's based off of frequency and vibration, based off of
Speaker 5: where you are spiritually on that side. So so like
Speaker 5: when you pass, you're going to be put in a
Speaker 5: community of like minded spirits who are at the same
Speaker 5: vibration and frequency that you resonate at. Okay, So your
Speaker 5: higher self will break bops little pieces of itself and
Speaker 5: it'll select the lifetime to live. It'll see that lifetime
Speaker 5: happen from beginning to end, and it'll select to take
Speaker 5: that life depending on what the higher self has to
Speaker 5: learn spiritually to gain more knowledge for themselves for yourself, does.
Speaker 1: Each because each person or being, would you say like
Speaker 1: splinter off into multiple lives, like do you what do
Speaker 1: you feel like I have like parallel lives right now
Speaker 1: that I would be willing to learn, you know what.
Speaker 1: I wanted to share this with you, Matt. I have
Speaker 1: these dreams where I've told Nate about this, and I've
Speaker 1: talked about this is people in my podcast where I'll
Speaker 1: go into the dream world and I feel like I'll
Speaker 1: be there for two weeks, but then I'll wake up
Speaker 1: and it's only been like five hours. But so it
Speaker 1: seems like time's not linear on this other side or
Speaker 1: whatever this is, because it seems like in my astrol
Speaker 1: I'm doing a lot of work, but then I'm gone
Speaker 1: for like two weeks, but then, like I said, when
Speaker 1: I wake up, it's been like five hours, six hours tops.
Speaker 5: You know, it's right, yeah, yeah, time it's almost like
Speaker 5: it's non existent. It's there, but it moves very very slowly.
Speaker 5: So like when somebody passes and we lose somebody to
Speaker 5: them on that side, it can only feel like maybe
Speaker 5: like a week has gone by and we're already there.
Speaker 5: Joining wow, you know what I mean, Like the time, it.
Speaker 2: Doesn't seem like it exists on that side.
Speaker 5: And that's kind of what happened to me the first
Speaker 5: time that I experienced these spirits is I thought I
Speaker 5: was there for like maybe ten minutes taking photos of everything,
Speaker 5: and I had realized that after I had went outside
Speaker 5: just kind of take a break from what I was
Speaker 5: seeing and kind of process everything, like two hours had
Speaker 5: went by and I didn't even realize it, like I
Speaker 5: thought I had only been ten minutes, Like time just
Speaker 5: just flew. So yeah, I absolutely agree with what you're
Speaker 5: saying there.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's really cool. Wow, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: sharing on This is amazing. This was amazing.
Speaker 4: This was like, do you want to talk about the
Speaker 4: kind of darker stuff now, Matt with the kidnapping stuff.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, you have for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So this is where the shit hits the fan everybody,
Speaker 6: because the progress could leave this alone. So I when
Speaker 6: I was connecting with spirits in.
Speaker 5: The beginning, I ended up, I guess, not protecting myself
Speaker 5: the way I should have, not realizing it. So when
Speaker 5: I was connecting with loved ones and bringing them through.
Speaker 5: I had a spirit that came through back with me,
Speaker 5: and I'm going to show you photos of the spirit here.
Speaker 5: So what ended up happening is it ended up coming
Speaker 5: through and it ended up staying in my reality. So
Speaker 5: if you look at this, you'll see the smoke kind
Speaker 5: of flowing in through the air and everything like that. Now,
Speaker 5: this is the spirit that came through without me knowing it,
Speaker 5: and it kind of stood where I was and it
Speaker 5: affected my life in a lot of negative ways. And
Speaker 5: I didn't understand what was happening at the time. I
Speaker 5: had actually only learned about this recently. So what had
Speaker 5: happened is I got a message from my guy saying, hey,
Speaker 5: go back and look at the.
Speaker 2: Beginning of your experience.
Speaker 5: And when I did this, I was seeing all these
Speaker 5: photographs of things that I didn't remember happening at all,
Speaker 5: Like it seemed like they had just kind of like
Speaker 5: appeared on my phone out of nowhere, and I was
Speaker 5: trying to make sense of it. So what this is
Speaker 5: is a female spirit fear of forming in my reality
Speaker 5: that ended up just not wanting to go back to
Speaker 5: the spirit world. They wanted to spend time here in
Speaker 5: this reality with me. But they affected me in a
Speaker 5: lot of a lot of negative ways you or something
Speaker 5: like that, you know, it felt like it was feeding
Speaker 5: off my life force at me. It made me super sick.
Speaker 5: My luck believed it or not, like changed for the worst.
Speaker 5: I kind of lost interest in connecting for people and
Speaker 5: staying on track with everything I did. I and I
Speaker 5: actually end up calling this a suckybus that that ended
Speaker 5: up saying with me. So I'm going to share another
Speaker 5: photo with you real quick. That was just the spirit
Speaker 5: forming there. This photo here is actually a photo that
Speaker 5: I took of her for the first time as well.
Speaker 5: So that was almost like the way my guide had
Speaker 5: a pet can you see your faith? The pitch black waes?
Speaker 5: And these were photos that I was that I hadn't
Speaker 5: seen until recently. So I wasn't even aware of that
Speaker 5: this had happened until my guides had told me to
Speaker 5: go back and look to see what had actually happened.
Speaker 1: Well, I got a question, well, can the guides interfere
Speaker 1: when something like this happens or they kind of their
Speaker 1: hands kind of.
Speaker 5: Cot So what it ended up happening, I think is
Speaker 5: that the sucubus that came into my area, kind of
Speaker 5: blocked out my guy from being able to contact me.
Speaker 5: And I remember at the time, I kind of like
Speaker 5: out of nowhere, lost interest in doing you know, readings
Speaker 5: for anybody or anything out of that at that time.
Speaker 5: I'm going to show you another photo of it, So
Speaker 5: this is actually a picture of the face of that spirit.
Speaker 1: Oh God, can I ask you a question. Did you
Speaker 1: ever find yourself getting like real triggered really easily?
Speaker 2: You know, there there's a lot of side effects with it.
Speaker 5: I'm absolutely like I I felt like I couldn't concentrate
Speaker 5: on anything. It seemed like, you know, simple tasks like
Speaker 5: even like cleaning and stuff like that, Like things were
Speaker 5: just started getting real messy and kind of out of
Speaker 5: sorts and I and I didn't realize it at the time,
Speaker 5: but this is, you know, that's the way that she
Speaker 5: wanted it, so to speak.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said that because I felt like I was
Speaker 1: dealing with the suckybist here where somebody got it out
Speaker 1: of here. But like it was, uh, it was draining
Speaker 1: on my energy and it was making me like real
Speaker 1: triggered and angry. But I was already harnessing anger from
Speaker 1: like something that happened, So you know, I think they
Speaker 1: just found like an opportunity and like looshed off me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, If that makes any sense?
Speaker 2: Can you see that one?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, that one absolutely makes sense.
Speaker 2: So this is Ya. This is the dark form of it,
Speaker 2: like a shadow.
Speaker 1: That's amazing.
Speaker 5: So it was hiding in my reality too from me,
Speaker 5: so I wasn't even aware that it was there at
Speaker 5: the time.
Speaker 2: But this is kind of a picture of the way
Speaker 2: it looks in its natural.
Speaker 5: Form, so it would take the form of a human woman,
Speaker 5: but it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: Talk about how you cleared her though a little bit.
Speaker 5: So yeah, that when I realized after everything, after all
Speaker 5: this had happened and what I you know, I had
Speaker 5: experienced and what was around me, I ended up connecting
Speaker 5: with my guides. They brought an angel through and they
Speaker 5: were able to help me get get rid of this
Speaker 5: this entity, which was a really amazing experience. And I'm sorry,
Speaker 5: I'm trying to it's when I connect, like I say,
Speaker 5: it's like they wipe my memory, so I'm only able
Speaker 5: to go off of the photos that I've seen. But
Speaker 5: they ended up help me clear it out. And then Olivia,
Speaker 5: actually I did a session with her and kind of
Speaker 5: was able to confront it and get rid of it
Speaker 5: in a different type of way. You remember how we
Speaker 5: did that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I did a hosting session for him where
Speaker 4: I let the suckubist take over my body. That way
Speaker 4: he could speak to it directly instead of letting it
Speaker 4: kind of like skirt around and jump around the room.
Speaker 4: So if I had it there in one spot, he
Speaker 4: could have a whole conversation and he you know, in
Speaker 4: order to tell this thing. And I think it's really
Speaker 4: important for people to know that it wasn't even to us.
Speaker 4: It wasn't that hard to get rid of this finally,
Speaker 4: because you just you literally have to tell it directly.
Speaker 4: You're not wanted here. Get out of here. Because whether
Speaker 4: it's people we know it or not, sometimes you draw
Speaker 4: these things to you. Because when I was a gin,
Speaker 4: I would do that. I would wait for people to
Speaker 4: be a weak moment or to want someone to take
Speaker 4: over and help them, and that's when I would sneak in.
Speaker 4: So's it's a lot easier to get rid of them
Speaker 4: than we think. I think we watch, you know, based
Speaker 4: on movies and stuff, we kind of get stuck in
Speaker 4: kind of like a belief. You know that they're kind
Speaker 4: of more powerful than they are in our realm anyways,
Speaker 4: and their realm they're more powerful, but here we have
Speaker 4: more of the power. So he was able to confront
Speaker 4: it directly and let her know that she wasn't wanted,
Speaker 4: and she ended up leaving. I mean, we've had run
Speaker 4: ins with her quite a few times, like I've done
Speaker 4: sessions before, and you know, she is very strong because
Speaker 4: she has almost in the astral realm. She has a
Speaker 4: layer that she can pull us to if she wants to,
Speaker 4: and it's like a old it looks like an old
Speaker 4: haunted farmhouse kind of thing, a near a cornfield on
Speaker 4: the left, and she will pull you there. And that's
Speaker 4: kind of where she's created, like a world for herself.
Speaker 4: So when she pulls, anytime I see that, I know
Speaker 4: that's that's her. She's trying to connect to me or
Speaker 4: talk to me or be around me. So we're able.
Speaker 4: She had I think she choked me once during a
Speaker 4: hypnosis session. It was right at the beginning of the
Speaker 4: session and I'm I'm doing an induction and I was
Speaker 4: working with actually working with Misha Johnston, and I'm going
Speaker 4: down a flight of stairs, and I keep telling them stop, stop, stop,
Speaker 4: hold on, And it's because she was choking me. And
Speaker 4: you don't think that because it's in the astral that
Speaker 4: it's really harming you. But it's real, it's real, it's
Speaker 4: real physical, you know, I felt. I felt it the
Speaker 4: whole time. So it's she does have power in other realms,
Speaker 4: just not as much here.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, and you you would know me, uh, Olivia,
Speaker 1: because you you've had a lot of experience. For the
Speaker 1: audience that doesn't know, I'm really familiar with your story,
Speaker 1: and the people in the audience that read your book,
Speaker 1: they're familiar with your story. But you've had a lot
Speaker 1: of experience with entities hosting your your body, and that's right,
Speaker 1: and so you you you're really familiar with this, this,
Speaker 1: this this idea.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I just want to make sure people know
Speaker 4: she is very strong because letting her use my body
Speaker 4: was the very first time, very first time I've ever
Speaker 4: felt anyone have like a physical control of some of
Speaker 4: my muscle movements. And there were certain things that the
Speaker 4: way I was moving it wasn't like natural to me,
Speaker 4: you know, it was just different. I couldn't control my
Speaker 4: facial movements. She was controlling my face, so she this
Speaker 4: was a really strong entity.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: Wow, I'm wondering if I felt more real to you
Speaker 5: that way as well, because being at the physical mediumship,
Speaker 5: they you know, formed real in our reality too, So
Speaker 5: I'm wondering if that's what was happening at that time
Speaker 5: as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the very, very first time I felt
Speaker 4: physically controlled along with you know, spiritually, I mean just
Speaker 4: in the current reality and other you know programs, I
Speaker 4: was able to, you know, be physically controlled, but in
Speaker 4: terms of like what I'm experiencing now, it was the
Speaker 4: first time and with someone else too as a witness.
Speaker 5: So after that session, though, like we're able to get
Speaker 5: rid of it, and like everything changed like right away
Speaker 5: from me, Like my luck started coming back.
Speaker 2: I mean I felt more energetic.
Speaker 5: Just everything in my life started changing for the positive again,
Speaker 5: which was a blessing.
Speaker 2: Disguise, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Like if my guys wouldn't have shown me that this
Speaker 5: was even happening, I mean, who knows how long this
Speaker 5: could have been going on for me, you know, I
Speaker 5: would have just been kind of lost in limbo so
Speaker 5: to speak.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's interesting. Like, yeah, that makes me think
Speaker 1: how many people are attached by entities and they don't
Speaker 1: even know it, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot that that are.
Speaker 5: Like I am able to take pictures that people send me,
Speaker 5: and I could show them the entities that are around
Speaker 5: them and how they're affecting their lives at this time.
Speaker 5: So like if you were to just take photos of
Speaker 5: your room around you, you'd send them to me. I'd
Speaker 5: be to make the spirits appear in those photos, and
Speaker 5: then I could point out everything to you and show
Speaker 5: you what's around you at the time, like it's their
Speaker 5: family spirits, of their negative entities, light beings.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'd like you know, I'd like to do that.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see what I have in my studio here,
Speaker 1: because I do so many podcasts, I wonder what I
Speaker 1: bring in here, you know what I mean. I'll do
Speaker 1: that actually tonight. I'll send you some pictures and see
Speaker 1: what you can come up with if you want to.
Speaker 1: If you yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm totally open for that. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 5: And you know the reason I wanted to connect with
Speaker 5: you guys too is you know, I'm coming from a
Speaker 5: spiritual side of this, and I did have a few
Speaker 5: things happened that made me think that there was some
Speaker 5: government involvement. Possibly I'm using my abilities for something that
Speaker 5: I am completely unaware of. So after I got rid
Speaker 5: of the Suckubus, I ended up moving and when I
Speaker 5: arrived where I was supposed to be, I was staying
Speaker 5: at this hotel and I ended up going back and
Speaker 5: looking through my photographs and I found the pictures of
Speaker 5: me in this hotel and an entity forming in.
Speaker 2: The room with me. But I was asleep.
Speaker 5: So what I'm thinking that I was doing is I
Speaker 5: was astral projecting and catching what was happening around me.
Speaker 5: And I'm going to show you what I'm talking about
Speaker 5: it here. So I call this a kidnapping. Okay, this
Speaker 5: is a photo from the first time that it happened,
Speaker 5: because it's happened a couple of times to me so far.
Speaker 5: Do you remember this one, Olivia, Yeah, that was.
Speaker 4: The underground base. Yeah, so the mountain base, excuse me,
Speaker 4: the mountain base.
Speaker 5: I ended up finding photographs of myself being taken in
Speaker 5: a in like a black suv. I have photographs of
Speaker 5: myself in this suv with like tubes that were attached
Speaker 5: to my head and kind of coming down to my
Speaker 5: neck and there were.
Speaker 4: Two people on each one person on each side of
Speaker 4: you sitting in the backseat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's more people with me.
Speaker 5: But I looked completely like out of it, like I
Speaker 5: was drugged or something. This photo here is a photo
Speaker 5: through the window of that black jeep and what it
Speaker 5: looks like to me is it looks like a soldier
Speaker 5: and like on the on the next thing, you could
Speaker 5: see that round You see that round thing. It looks
Speaker 5: like a pin, like a like some kind of a
Speaker 5: military pin, and it looks like they're wearing some kind
Speaker 5: of a military hat. But it almost looks spiritual in
Speaker 5: a way. Can you make that out?
Speaker 2: So what I'm talking about is this right here.
Speaker 4: I see it clear it's an eagle. I think it's
Speaker 4: an ego with its wings up.
Speaker 2: And then.
Speaker 6: To really get it, what's that I said, you need
Speaker 6: to sing away from this image and you have to
Speaker 6: give it a few feet from my vantage point from
Speaker 6: where I'm sitting at the Really.
Speaker 1: The guy looks like he has an alien head though,
Speaker 1: That's what That's what I'm I'm finding like bizarre, Like
Speaker 1: it looks like a like a like a gray alien
Speaker 1: head or something. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what is weird about it that it looks
Speaker 4: like something disguised as a soldier.
Speaker 5: So the other photos that I have during this time
Speaker 5: were very weird. It was like they had taken me
Speaker 5: into some kind of like underground concrete base, but it
Speaker 5: was in like a mountainous area, but it was snowy
Speaker 5: house ide. Did it looked like Antarctica?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was snow. There was snow every round, and
Speaker 4: there was two towers, two large towers on the side.
Speaker 5: Two towers in the gate. I remember the gate, and
Speaker 5: then I just have like very small memories of what
Speaker 5: was happening in there.
Speaker 2: I remember being in a room arguing with somebody. I
Speaker 2: was in a chair.
Speaker 5: So I don't know what exactly happened with this just
Speaker 5: based off of the you know, photos that I had taken,
Speaker 5: I can only put so much together. But this was
Speaker 5: the first time that I had something happened to me
Speaker 5: where they had actually physically taken me out of my
Speaker 5: home to somewhere else to do things to me that
Speaker 5: I wasn't aware of.
Speaker 4: You said they were kind of had you tied to
Speaker 4: a chair, almost like an interrogation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yep, absolutely, But I like, I say that my
Speaker 5: memory was kind of wiped from everything, so I don't
Speaker 5: I don't, unfortunately, remember everything that happened.
Speaker 2: I'm still trying to make sense of it.
Speaker 1: Wow, this is a this is strange. I mean, what
Speaker 1: what what have you been able to? What do you
Speaker 1: give you guys been able to uncover? Like does a
Speaker 1: Libya know? Or like did you guys have been able
Speaker 1: to Yeah.
Speaker 4: We kind of did. I don't know if you want
Speaker 4: to talk about it, Matt, but or if you want
Speaker 4: to save it, it's up to you. No, you go,
Speaker 4: it's it's your story. I want you to tell it,
Speaker 4: So go ahead about did you want it? Because you've
Speaker 4: got to bring it into the second kidnapping. I think
Speaker 4: that's where we found the most information.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, so the second kidnapping, I'm going to show you.
Speaker 5: Here's a photo of the hotel room I was in
Speaker 5: and the entity that was forming on the other side.
Speaker 5: It's a little bit blurry, but you see that blob
Speaker 5: that's the entity that came through. Now, I was sleeping
Speaker 5: in this bed at the time, and I was able
Speaker 5: to take this photo of it astray, right, So this
Speaker 5: is the first photo in the set that I had
Speaker 5: taken of the entity that had appeared in the room
Speaker 5: with me. And what it seemed like is that in
Speaker 5: the other photos that I have, it was like they
Speaker 5: had dematerialized my body out of that room and they
Speaker 5: re materialized me into.
Speaker 2: A car.
Speaker 5: Now I'm going to show you the second sets of
Speaker 5: photos from this. Let me find them real quick.
Speaker 2: You're sorry.
Speaker 5: So when I'm in this car, what I found out
Speaker 5: that they were doing is they were bringing this entity
Speaker 5: through my face. Now this is me sitting in the
Speaker 5: front seat of this car, and my face is completely changed.
Speaker 5: I have the first photos of me, you know, where
Speaker 5: I look completely normal, but again it looked like I
Speaker 5: was like completely drugged at the time. My eyes were
Speaker 5: glazed out, and I have no memory of any of
Speaker 5: this happening. So this photo here, if you look at this, yeah,
Speaker 5: my face is like morphing and that ectoplasm I produce,
Speaker 5: like I have that smoke coming out of my mouth right,
Speaker 5: and I didn't understand what was happening during it. But
Speaker 5: I'm going to go ahead and post the second photo.
Speaker 5: I have three photos to show you on this. Let's
Speaker 5: see if I can find it real quick. So that
Speaker 5: was the first one who here's the second one, and
Speaker 5: this is like I say, this is out in my vehicle,
Speaker 5: And what I think they were doing is they were
Speaker 5: bringing some kind of an entity through my body. Okay,
Speaker 5: so this third photo will show you what I was saying.
Speaker 5: So after those two photos, can you see this, Yeah,
Speaker 5: so my face completely changed. It's like this entity came
Speaker 5: like through my face and they brought it forward. So
Speaker 5: that's what kind of had me confused, and I really
Speaker 5: wasn't sure what was happening at that time. What I'm
Speaker 5: thinking is that they were using me for something, for
Speaker 5: my abilities somehow, So they were taking me without me
Speaker 5: realizing it, bringing forth this entity. And I don't know
Speaker 5: if it's to open portals for them or what it is.
Speaker 5: I really don't know. And that's what I'm trying to
Speaker 5: find out. I'm trying to get information on it. Learned
Speaker 5: as much as I can, but I really don't know
Speaker 5: what they're doing with me. The Spare World did communicate
Speaker 5: with me, and they did say like they flat out
Speaker 5: printed out like CI for me, So that made me
Speaker 5: think that that's who's using me for something that I'm
Speaker 5: unaware of.
Speaker 4: Can I tell that story about the Mars thing? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: So there's this story in my book where I and
Speaker 4: this was a conscious recall actually that I had. There
Speaker 4: was this person I met when I worked on Mars
Speaker 4: as a profiler. I met this guy that was working
Speaker 4: on a cargo ship and we had a relationship on
Speaker 4: Mars while during my term of service there, and he
Speaker 4: would go and pick up cargo. And one of the
Speaker 4: times he went, he came back and he gave me
Speaker 4: a Raspberry Singer and that's Matthew.
Speaker 5: And she had told me about this before and I
Speaker 5: had no memory of it. But when I started seeing
Speaker 5: these pictures of the portals opening around me when that
Speaker 5: suckybus was around, I actually had a Raspberry Singer at
Speaker 5: the time, and I'm wondering when they took me through
Speaker 5: that portal, if I was time jumping, if I was
Speaker 5: going back into different timelines, are forward in the timelines?
Speaker 5: Does Does that make sense? And that could have been
Speaker 5: the time where she remembers having that experience.
Speaker 1: That's fascinating. I remember you telling that story, Olivia on
Speaker 1: the on the podcast like that. I remember that was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's interesting. I mean, you know when you originally told
Speaker 1: me about that you someone had given you one of
Speaker 1: those the rat for his anger. Yeah. One thing I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, Olivia, was do you see like
Speaker 1: so so so you so you think Matt might have
Speaker 1: been involved in the programs. I was gonna say, do
Speaker 1: you see involvement of people who might not necessarily be
Speaker 1: involved in the programs that the military is kind of
Speaker 1: glamoring onto to use them for their abilities? Like, so,
Speaker 1: say someone's not really involved in the programs, or do
Speaker 1: you think if someone's being used for their abilities, they're
Speaker 1: always in the programs you think, I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: I just yeah, but I just I would assume. So
Speaker 4: I know, I can't speculate because I'm not sure unless
Speaker 4: I've seen it for sure. But I just know I've
Speaker 4: seen him, and I remembered he was on Mars and
Speaker 4: he worked for Mars Defense Force. That's why I remember him.
Speaker 4: And you know this is he's known this for years,
Speaker 4: Like what is it like three years now? You've known this,
Speaker 4: and it's just because he didn't have a direct memory
Speaker 4: of it himself, you know, until recently when you've actually
Speaker 4: found a picture, you know, with the Raspberry Singer. Then
Speaker 4: it kind of was like he was kind of like
Speaker 4: whoa kind of thing. So he's known it for a
Speaker 4: long time, but you know, he's just more on the
Speaker 4: spiritual side.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And like I said, I can only make sense
Speaker 5: of what I what I see visually, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, because I have no memory of it when
Speaker 5: I'm actually connected and doing it. So it's just like
Speaker 5: little bits and pieces coming back to me. And that's
Speaker 5: you know, what I'm kind of working on now, is
Speaker 5: just trying to make sense of everything I see here too.
Speaker 5: One second, see if I can go back to my
Speaker 5: photos here, so also rob that that time when they
Speaker 5: took me check this out. So I have pictures of
Speaker 5: my car right and see those three dots on my car. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so those aren't on my vehicle at all, but during
Speaker 5: that kidnapping, those photos. These are what I found in
Speaker 5: the photographs. So I'm thinking that this is some kind
Speaker 5: of astral tracking system.
Speaker 1: What is that white stuff?
Speaker 5: So that's snow on the vehicle. Three dots that are below,
Speaker 5: So those aren't on my vehicle at all, but in
Speaker 5: the photographs they're on the vehicle.
Speaker 1: I wonder what the hell that is.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: So the other photos that I have of this are
Speaker 5: of my car in the parking lot of that hotel.
Speaker 5: The car door's open, there's nobody in the car, but
Speaker 5: I have a bunch of pictures of the outside of
Speaker 5: the car with these things all over them, and it
Speaker 5: almost looks like it almost feels like it's from a
Speaker 5: different dimension. So that's what makes me think that it's
Speaker 5: some kind of like if they are using me for
Speaker 5: some type of a government program. Maybe this is the
Speaker 5: way they're tracking me. But these things aren't visible in
Speaker 5: our reality. Just because of the way my gifts are
Speaker 5: of being able to see into a different dimension. I'm
Speaker 5: wondering if that's how I caught this photo.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what to say. Did you comment about it?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 6: I told him, I said, welcome the programs. But it
Speaker 6: seems like I just need to say welcome to the
Speaker 6: awakening of the programs because this is obvious. What's going
Speaker 6: on with you? I mean, I will I won't even speculate.
Speaker 6: I mean they they are using you for something that
Speaker 6: we're trying to figure out that that's interconnected with a
Speaker 6: lot of us, and I think they want to weaponize
Speaker 6: these entities or use them for intel purposes.
Speaker 2: Or whatever use they can.
Speaker 6: They want control over them, just like they want control
Speaker 6: over everybody. And I think they're using you to get
Speaker 6: that control and uh, you know, to conduct experiments. That's
Speaker 6: that's my hypothesis, and it's an educated guess.
Speaker 1: That's a good that's a good point. Why do you
Speaker 1: think they would want to weaponize the entities though, just
Speaker 1: for like astral warfare or something spiritual warfare or something.
Speaker 4: Like that power power conquest.
Speaker 6: Right, I mean if you think about, like, you know,
Speaker 6: what I went through. I went through a cult that
Speaker 6: was an in and ochy cult to use a satanism
Speaker 6: and psychological camouflage, so there was entities interacting with us.
Speaker 6: I was under the impression that it was you know,
Speaker 6: alien stagecraft technology. Ay, but you know, it's very likely
Speaker 6: and very well and very possible that it was a
Speaker 6: lot more than that. So I think that they use
Speaker 6: these entities in a variety of programs, and I think
Speaker 6: that's the goal. It's complete weaponization of any type of
Speaker 6: resource that they can find, and the spiritual realm is
Speaker 6: loaded with it. I also think that we are in
Speaker 6: a type of a nested simulation. The question is who's
Speaker 6: controlling it and what the nature of it is there's
Speaker 6: a lot of unanswered questions. But it seems like we're
Speaker 6: in a nested reality and they're picking from those nested
Speaker 6: regions or you know, those nested subrealities. So you know,
Speaker 6: my question is is who's setting up the structure, Who
Speaker 6: created the structure that we're all existing in for them
Speaker 6: to be able to do this. And I also think too, like,
Speaker 6: for example, if you inadvertently create a habitat for a
Speaker 6: pest in your house, like say you have hornous nests,
Speaker 6: it's up in the eve of your house.
Speaker 2: And you had a perfect spot for it.
Speaker 6: It's the same analogy that I'm using for this. If
Speaker 6: you have a nested simulation, you're going to get entities
Speaker 6: that are going to take refuge in there, that that
Speaker 6: can feed off of it. You know, they have a
Speaker 6: habitat that can feed off a loosh or whatever it is,
Speaker 6: and so you're you're creating a place for them, you know,
Speaker 6: to congregate. And this could be very well an artificial
Speaker 6: type of simulation construct where we have these nested levels
Speaker 6: and then once they get in there and they take
Speaker 6: you know, refuge, and they start feeding off of the population,
Speaker 6: then the programs step into the ets and they work out,
Speaker 6: you know, some sort of deal with with you know,
Speaker 6: the militaries are involved in this, and they they showed
Speaker 6: them how to weaponize these other types of entities. So
Speaker 6: this isn't just utilizing the population. They're utilizing the various
Speaker 6: populations that we don't see. And that's why I think
Speaker 6: has happen.
Speaker 2: They have a.
Speaker 4: Lot of like I don't know what you call it,
Speaker 4: like all knowing, and I think Michael will be able
Speaker 4: to go with into a little bit of that with
Speaker 4: his information about what kind of information these entities can
Speaker 4: provide and why they might be seeking them out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Michael, did you want to tell us a little bit? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Yeah?
Speaker 2: We can.
Speaker 3: Hi. Yeah, So, you know, I was going to say, hello,
Speaker 3: my name is Michael Cameron. I'm for these people in
Speaker 3: the chapter and that know me. But you know it's
Speaker 3: the second time I've been on your show, isn't it, Robert?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, so you know mine.
Speaker 3: You know, I describe myself as an alien abductee from birth,
Speaker 3: from a baby, and I'm also a veteran of the
Speaker 3: Secret Space Program.
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 3: Secret Space Program when I was four years old. This
Speaker 3: is some information that I'm you know, obviously researching at
Speaker 3: this time.
Speaker 1: But you know.
Speaker 3: Three was probably and then now spoke about my experiences,
Speaker 3: you know, with the infamous Grays, them I had encounters
Speaker 3: with as a child, teenager, you know, in a host
Speaker 3: of other creatures.
Speaker 1: But Michael, Michael, I'm sorry. I mean, you're up to
Speaker 1: your your microphone's going in and out something. I don't
Speaker 1: know something you're doing, but we couldn't hardly hear you.
Speaker 1: Can you kind of rewind there a little bit and
Speaker 1: say that again, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me try this on second. Mm.
Speaker 1: Well yeah me, now now I can't Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was saying that, you know, in the
Speaker 3: pages of my book, I was speaking about, you know,
Speaker 3: there was I had experiences that alluded to, you know,
Speaker 3: military experiences within these type of abductions. You know, there
Speaker 3: was one instance where I was being abducted by what
Speaker 3: would look like free Grays, but they were using your know,
Speaker 3: like a black stretcher. And you know, the Grays don't
Speaker 3: need to need they don't need to use these type
Speaker 3: of you know, instruments to move you from your bed
Speaker 3: to a craft. You know, this seemed more like a
Speaker 3: something that our own military would use. So you know,
Speaker 3: I believe that particular experience said being a screen memory
Speaker 3: and the military had been involved in this one, you know.
Speaker 3: So I always knew that there being another part of
Speaker 3: my life, you know, that had been hidden in military
Speaker 3: classified projects, because I had lots of fractured memories that
Speaker 3: would have you know, at times of stress, would allow
Speaker 3: me to peek, you know, into the bottomless pit, as
Speaker 3: I would say, of despair from trauma, and I had
Speaker 3: a lot of out of body experiences that would take
Speaker 3: me off world to locations you know that would I
Speaker 3: find myself on battlefields, fighting against monument soldiers and at
Speaker 3: times be below you know, in the dumbs and the
Speaker 3: deep underground military bases. But I have memories as well
Speaker 3: that you know that was bleed that bled into my
Speaker 3: conscious mind, you know, where I was leading soldiers through
Speaker 3: stargates into another location, sometimes retrieving alien artifacts and looked
Speaker 3: like on rescue missions and fighting you know, with non
Speaker 3: human entities. So you know, there being many times when
Speaker 3: strangers would tell me that I was deeply involved, you know,
Speaker 3: with the military, and other other currencies would present themselves
Speaker 3: to me. I had a lot of times unusual job offers,
Speaker 3: you know, and sometimes I didn't have on this level.
Speaker 3: I didn't have the skills for these particular jobs, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean one of these particular jobs that I was
Speaker 3: offered during the nineteen nineties was to travel through Russia
Speaker 3: to basically work with the Russian police down the Russian mafia.
Speaker 3: So you know, this was offered to me a military contract,
Speaker 3: and at the time, I didn't have the skills on
Speaker 3: this level to you know, to do a job like that.
Speaker 3: But you know, when it was getting closer to the
Speaker 3: time of me actually doing anything, the job offer was
Speaker 3: then you know, taken away and I never heard anything
Speaker 3: of it again, you know. But I've spoken to some
Speaker 3: other people, you know, within the SSP community, and they've
Speaker 3: had these type of experiences as well, with these unusual
Speaker 3: job offers. So so in you know, in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 3: I had the opportunity to become friends with Olivia, and
Speaker 3: it was then I asked her if she'd be able
Speaker 3: to assist me in rediscovering what had been hidden from me,
Speaker 3: you know, including any information about my altars or related projects.
Speaker 3: So this here is what I'm what I'm going to
Speaker 3: be talking about, just briefly touching upon some of it,
Speaker 3: because there's a lot more information contained with you know
Speaker 3: what discovered, which you know, I e. You know, had
Speaker 3: experiences that are you know, that match what Olivia found.
Speaker 3: So you know, one of the experiences that she had
Speaker 3: first of all with me when we started to do this,
Speaker 3: is that she, you know, she found herself back at
Speaker 3: my childhood home where I grew up in London. She
Speaker 3: entered a bedroom where she discovered me. I was eighty
Speaker 3: years old, sitting up in bed reading the book. But
Speaker 3: she could see at this time that I had already altered.
Speaker 3: So actually inside of me was an altar named George
Speaker 3: and he had been created through the Monarch Project. So
Speaker 3: for me, you know, I was told that I entered
Speaker 3: the Monarch Project when I was eight years old, but
Speaker 3: the actual abuse that caused you know me to disassociate
Speaker 3: happened actually when I was a baby and then moving
Speaker 3: through into infancy. So so at an early age then
Speaker 3: I guess I was I was asking and calling out
Speaker 3: to be sexually touched. And as it happened, many intruders
Speaker 3: came through humans and non humans, and they, you know,
Speaker 3: they did exactly that they started to touch me sexually,
Speaker 3: you know, I guess bordering along what would be you know,
Speaker 3: sexual abuse or rape. And so that you know, that's
Speaker 3: obviously caused a lot of trauma in me, as it
Speaker 3: as in many other people that have been in the
Speaker 3: Secret Space program, super soldiers that have you know, been
Speaker 3: on these projects. So but I believe George although he
Speaker 3: was asking for that, you know, he was actually programmed
Speaker 3: through the Monarch project to ask for this, you know.
Speaker 3: So you know, it's a sorry state affairs in a way,
Speaker 3: as children you know, were used and abused to create
Speaker 3: the perfect soldiers or super soldiers in our case, so
Speaker 3: you know, there were in natural fact, there had been
Speaker 3: in my bedroom close to my bed, on the on
Speaker 3: the wall next to my bed, there actually had been
Speaker 3: an active portal where many of these creatures actually entered
Speaker 3: into my room to abduct me, including the Grace. So
Speaker 3: you know, Olivia, when she was in my room, she
Speaker 3: entered through this space which was who guided through I
Speaker 3: guess by by my eye of mind, and I was
Speaker 3: telling her based you know, to go down on one
Speaker 3: side of this portal, and when she did, she found
Speaker 3: herself in another dimension, which and the dimension where she
Speaker 3: found herself was actually below the sea, you know, and
Speaker 3: it's actually known as the Deep or the Abyss, which
Speaker 3: was parallel, parallel location to the earth. So it was
Speaker 3: actually a prison for a very powerful and dangerous creature
Speaker 3: who had imprisoned here in biblical times or just before
Speaker 3: biblical times. And you know, when I was doing some
Speaker 3: research on it, and you know, legends speak of this
Speaker 3: creature being a demon, whilst others say it had been
Speaker 3: created by the Ananaki prince and they're as a military
Speaker 3: weapon to keep the humans in their place or members
Speaker 3: of his own bloodline from taking his power away. But
Speaker 3: you know, when this being communicated with Olivia, he actually
Speaker 3: described it as a god and not a demon as
Speaker 3: many people believe it is, you know, and it came
Speaker 3: its name was Loviephon, so you know, Levithen, you know,
Speaker 3: gave us some information. So but from the information he provided,
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's any speculation on my part,
Speaker 3: but from what he was saying, you know, I believe
Speaker 3: in some ways he is connected with a monarch project
Speaker 3: and some other projects, and I believe, you know, there
Speaker 3: is an element of control with this particular being who
Speaker 3: is you know, a very powerful being, very dangerous from
Speaker 3: the military. I believe the military do in some ways
Speaker 3: or able to contact this particular being and you know,
Speaker 3: and have it helped them in some cases. So so,
Speaker 3: you know, but the thing is this, this particular being,
Speaker 3: it actually reminds me of you know, the the immortal
Speaker 3: creature Penny Wise, because it's you know, although this place
Speaker 3: is a prison and it seems to be you know,
Speaker 3: chained up there in some sort of maze with bars
Speaker 3: that are going right across it, but it seems to
Speaker 3: have the ability to move out of here and and
Speaker 3: affect our reality. And it's also has the ability to
Speaker 3: shape shift into many different forms, and you know, that's
Speaker 3: why it reminds me a little bit of Penny Wise,
Speaker 3: who is able to shape shift, and you know he
Speaker 3: shaped shifts into a clown.
Speaker 4: But can I chime in just to give a visual bathin.
Speaker 4: So when I saw him, I remote bi located and
Speaker 4: kind of astral traveled to his kind of realm, and
Speaker 4: he looked like he was behind this gait and he's
Speaker 4: so huge, and he looked like he was just floating
Speaker 4: above the ground and he almost looks like this not
Speaker 4: really an octopus, but just like a huge kind of
Speaker 4: blob with a lot of arms. But from what he
Speaker 4: tells us, he's very I consider him probably like an
Speaker 4: elder god, and what he considered, you know, an elder god.
Speaker 4: He just is very strong, and he's not as chained
Speaker 4: up as he says. Yes, he's chained in a way,
Speaker 4: and we were trying to figure out how he got
Speaker 4: to this place and how he got in this situation.
Speaker 4: But in looking further, we discovered that he is not
Speaker 4: actually as chained up as he lets people believe, and
Speaker 4: that's a way for him to stay in contact and
Speaker 4: keep himself connected to certain individuals. By them thinking he's chained,
Speaker 4: he's able to use them and they use him, you know,
Speaker 4: back and forth, kind of like siphoning situation.
Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, that's right. Yeah, So so you know it's
Speaker 3: I think in some ways he's playing with the military.
Speaker 3: So what we discovered as well is that when I
Speaker 3: was a baby, like many others on the programs, I
Speaker 3: had been identified quite early from my medical records to
Speaker 3: my Monarch solutions, you know, so my DNA and related
Speaker 3: medical information information some highlighted my abilities I had. He
Speaker 3: was stated in my military files that they had discovered
Speaker 3: I was a portal person who are highly sought after
Speaker 3: on the projects. So it's also noted idea ability to
Speaker 3: withstand pain at a very eye level, which was measurable
Speaker 3: in terms of how they could utilize this. They said
Speaker 3: that my my threshold of pain was a lot different
Speaker 3: from the other children that they had on the projects,
Speaker 3: so I was able to with stand a larger amount
Speaker 3: of pain when they were actually torturing me. So that
Speaker 3: was interesting. And also find interesting that my medical records
Speaker 3: now it actually states that I have a hole in
Speaker 3: my heart, and the military found I was able to
Speaker 3: open portals with the pressure from my heart, you know,
Speaker 3: which was different from others. They found that this ability
Speaker 3: to produce better results when I was in a state
Speaker 3: of pain or when they were torturing me. So I
Speaker 3: was able to open up you know, stargate you know,
Speaker 3: portals or multiple portals that they were then using for
Speaker 3: you know, for whatever reason. So you know, so I
Speaker 3: believe now, you know, I believe I actually opened up
Speaker 3: the port in my bedroom obviously because of the abuse
Speaker 3: that I had suffered and maybe was continuing to, you know,
Speaker 3: undergo from these various creatures, and you know, it just
Speaker 3: wasn't aware of it that I'd done that, and so,
Speaker 3: you know, so you know, it was explained to me
Speaker 3: as well by this love life and preacher that you know,
Speaker 3: i'd been identified at an early age and then I'd
Speaker 3: been broken, like he said, like a glass china doll,
Speaker 3: and fractured into many pieces, you know, and the stronger
Speaker 3: parts of me were taken from the core, and you know,
Speaker 3: and from that there were many more splits that were
Speaker 3: taken and programmed, and eventually, you know, I even created
Speaker 3: systems for my altars to inhabit inside of my own mind. So,
Speaker 3: you know, interesting enough. In in my book, on page
Speaker 3: sixty two, I relate experience that occurred when I was
Speaker 3: five years old when my dad at the time took
Speaker 3: me to the hospital to see a doctor because i'd
Speaker 3: been you know, for a better word, soil in my underwear,
Speaker 3: which is often a sign of you know, sexual abuse
Speaker 3: or some other type of a psychological or emotional disturbance.
Speaker 3: But I remember, after a few examinations, the doctor, who
Speaker 3: was actually wearing a white lab coat, approached my dad
Speaker 3: and spoke with him for a little while, and then
Speaker 3: he kneeled down, and you know, he spoke with me
Speaker 3: and he said you know, well, young man, it would
Speaker 3: see you do not exist anywhere on our records, despite
Speaker 3: being born in this hospital. And then he paused, and
Speaker 3: he smiled at me, then said, do you know what
Speaker 3: you could do if he did not officially exist and
Speaker 3: were you know, and you were a spook? You know,
Speaker 3: at the time, you know, I didn't have a clue
Speaker 3: what he was going on about. I just wanted to
Speaker 3: get out of there. But you know, when I was
Speaker 3: writing this part of the book, you know, I was
Speaker 3: thinking that, you know, he may have been alluding to
Speaker 3: the CIA, you know, hence the word spook, but you know,
Speaker 3: I think he was actually referring to something else, which
Speaker 3: was actually similar to a ghost. So, you know, many
Speaker 3: times throughout my life, from being a child to an adult,
Speaker 3: I would that have these odd encounters with strangers who,
Speaker 3: at times, you know, seem to know more about me
Speaker 3: than I consciously knew about myself. And it felt that
Speaker 3: they were enjoying this, you know, they were getting some
Speaker 3: psychological kick out of it, like you know, But looking
Speaker 3: back now and looking back and looking forward, it did
Speaker 3: you know, I think that these people may have been
Speaker 3: handlers for me. You know, you know how many times
Speaker 3: have we all been handled, you know, even by those
Speaker 3: close to us? You know, how many love bites have
Speaker 3: we been involved with? Were ones that have been covidly
Speaker 3: designed to destroy us? So, you know, so I had
Speaker 3: been measured by the times I had cried when I
Speaker 3: was a child and noted that when I did, portals
Speaker 3: would open, so that these were being used by you know,
Speaker 3: they were being used by the military and groups within
Speaker 3: the Illuminati. So they said in nineteen eighty seven, they
Speaker 3: said that I had an implant fitted in my jaw
Speaker 3: on the right hand side of my jaw, you know, Matthew,
Speaker 3: you know, asked me, you know, at that time, did
Speaker 3: I go to the dentists, so have any type of
Speaker 3: work done on my teeth? And I think I did.
Speaker 3: But they actually said that this particular implant inside my jaw,
Speaker 3: they said it was actually standard for everyone or every
Speaker 3: super soldier in the secret space program, that they fit
Speaker 3: these in the jaw of each of the super soldiers.
Speaker 3: So they said it's actually just standard. But they did
Speaker 3: say also they they fitted another one which was in
Speaker 3: my right fight and they placed this on a meridian line,
Speaker 3: so like a you know, like a chakra or a
Speaker 3: dragon line, and they said the reason they'd done this
Speaker 3: was to block my ability in becoming stronger and moving
Speaker 3: forward in a way that would allow me to express myself,
Speaker 3: you know, much more fully. They said, it was designed
Speaker 3: to block my true nature in this world. And they said,
Speaker 3: both of these implants are being fitted in my physical
Speaker 3: body by a man who of mature years. He actually
Speaker 3: spoke with an American accent, but he wasn't American, and
Speaker 3: his name was Dr Western. But you know, it's very
Speaker 3: possible he had been a military doctor from the Tavistock
Speaker 3: Institute in London, you know, which is a place where
Speaker 3: where a lot of programming is actually carried out on
Speaker 3: super soldiers, even from the United States, who have gone
Speaker 3: to this location to be you know, programmed. I think
Speaker 3: there's an exchange where people from the United Kingdom go
Speaker 3: to to you know, bases in the United States as
Speaker 3: well too, you know, to be programmed as well. So so,
Speaker 3: you know, but what I wanted to speak about now
Speaker 3: is actually what I call the shadow.
Speaker 5: So this.
Speaker 3: What I'm going to read out here was actually taken
Speaker 3: from a computer terminal, and it says what we have
Speaker 3: accomplished is by far the most challenging endeavor we have
Speaker 3: understood so far, we have pushed past the limitations or
Speaker 3: the limits of the known reality, and he has helped
Speaker 3: us with this, so that he is they were referring to.
Speaker 3: So what Olivia discovered was on you know, several military
Speaker 3: files on me, is that the first experiments for this
Speaker 3: particular project took place when I was aged between five
Speaker 3: and ten years old. And at this time I had
Speaker 3: been the first test subject for what would then eventually
Speaker 3: become this particular project. So I was actually restrained on
Speaker 3: a gurney and you know, both my wrists and ankles
Speaker 3: were bound, and there was actually a device on my
Speaker 3: head which I'm which I think actually amplified my brain
Speaker 3: waves in some manner. And you know what, and there
Speaker 3: is like an experience, there is something I had actually
Speaker 3: where I had a similar device fitted on my head.
Speaker 3: Back in you know, the two thousands, I actually met
Speaker 3: a warman who was she was a military remote viewer
Speaker 3: for Pine Gap, the NSA National Security Agency site in Australia,
Speaker 3: one of the you know was it five Eyes of
Speaker 3: the World. And you know, she she gave me various
Speaker 3: information about myself. You know, one some of the information
Speaker 3: she provided for me was that I was a very
Speaker 3: gifted and powerful remote viewer, and she took me under
Speaker 3: a wing as a private student. And she but you know,
Speaker 3: when when she was when I was at a place
Speaker 3: and you know, we were she was teaching me various
Speaker 3: things about the remote viewing. She actually placed this a
Speaker 3: device on my head and she told me that this device,
Speaker 3: you know, it's not available to the public. It's actually
Speaker 3: a device they used that the pine gap or base
Speaker 3: for people when they're training in their remote viewers. And
Speaker 3: again I think it was again amplifying the signals in
Speaker 3: the right side of my brain and the left side
Speaker 3: of my brain to bring them, you know, maybe to
Speaker 3: an answer that frequency for me better to be able
Speaker 3: to do this particular you know, going out and looking
Speaker 3: at various things. But you know, there was a time though,
Speaker 3: I remember she had a female assistant and for some reason,
Speaker 3: it felt like she was trying to create a love
Speaker 3: bite situation between me and this assistant. And I remember
Speaker 3: saying to my friend, a friend of mine who was
Speaker 3: also you know, he's a super soldier in the UK,
Speaker 3: and you know, I was saying to him that there's
Speaker 3: something not right here, you know, I mean, there was
Speaker 3: there were times actually when she put this device on
Speaker 3: my head and I lost consciousness, and I you know,
Speaker 3: I don't actually know what happened, but when I did
Speaker 3: come out, when I did back from being you know, asleep,
Speaker 3: I did feel something had happened. There seemed to be
Speaker 3: some sort of strange energy between her and her assistant.
Speaker 3: So I wasn't sure what happened there. But that's I'm
Speaker 3: just pointing out really that, you know what, the similar
Speaker 3: device was placed on my head. Anyway, I eventually got
Speaker 3: out of that. I didn't feel safe, and I think
Speaker 3: she was actually still active with the Pine Gap facility
Speaker 3: as a remote viewer. So anyway, they so the first experience,
Speaker 3: from what we could see, were failures. They they wasn't
Speaker 3: going anywhere because for some reason, I wasn't responding in
Speaker 3: a way that they wished. And I mean, I think
Speaker 3: this may have been because, you know, maybe a part
Speaker 3: of me didn't want to be involved in these particular project.
Speaker 3: You know, I think my higher mind was in some
Speaker 3: way pushing against this. So I was taken to a location.
Speaker 3: It was actually an industrial site and from what Olivia
Speaker 3: could see, it was a seven story building, a warehouse effect,
Speaker 3: which had broken windows. It was abandoned, so no one would,
Speaker 3: you know, would have ventured here. But below the building
Speaker 3: was actually a military scientific land where these experiments were
Speaker 3: taking place with me.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like even today, many you know, many of the
Speaker 3: bases are hidden a lot of the time below you know,
Speaker 3: seemingly ordinary looking buildings, you know, and you know, more
Speaker 3: often than not accessible to the public, you know, and
Speaker 3: even the staff often don't know that actually in the
Speaker 3: buildings that they work there are access points that exist
Speaker 3: into some of the most sensitive and secret bases on
Speaker 3: the planet, so you know, very much hidden in plain sight.
Speaker 3: So they're in this particular scientific lab below this industrial site.
Speaker 3: So there was when I was actually on this you know,
Speaker 3: gurney and strapped to it whilst they were doing these experiments.
Speaker 3: There were actually large machines that were slamming against metal,
Speaker 3: so the sound waves acted as a trigger for me,
Speaker 3: so you know, and Olivia said, it sounded like a
Speaker 3: sledgehammer hitting metal over and over again. So they were
Speaker 3: trying to produce a particular sound that would eventually trigger
Speaker 3: me into what would then be what is called the shadow.
Speaker 3: And they actually referred to this method as smashing as
Speaker 3: smashing the plates, so not to be confused with you know,
Speaker 3: actually smashing china plates. So these were the machines were
Speaker 3: slamming at all, smashing the plates together to create a
Speaker 3: specific type of frequency. So the experiments over a course
Speaker 3: of time were eventually successful. And this this particular site
Speaker 3: it had been it was situated located in the country
Speaker 3: town of Wiltshire in the southwest of England and which
Speaker 3: is known as Strowbridge or or Trowbridge, and the project
Speaker 3: became known as Project Stranger. So the projects was actually
Speaker 3: based here in the physical world. So just to emphasize
Speaker 3: that for a moment, it was in the physical here,
Speaker 3: in the physical world here, not in the astral and
Speaker 3: my record states everything I did was real, so they're
Speaker 3: telling you, you know, everything I did was on this level,
Speaker 3: on the physical level. So I was used at the
Speaker 3: time for multiple purposes including travel, espionage, and intelligent gathering
Speaker 3: and much more. You know, they described me as a
Speaker 3: as a military weapon. So when when you're looking at
Speaker 3: my body, the body was blacker than black, you know,
Speaker 3: and Olivia seeing me in this in this form, and
Speaker 3: you know, Matthew he felt my energy and both of
Speaker 3: them said it was quite strange the frequency that I
Speaker 3: was given off, and Olivia described me as looking like
Speaker 3: almost like ash and a coal like substance. But you know,
Speaker 3: but my body also in this form of the shadow,
Speaker 3: it also had a type of physical structure to it
Speaker 3: with a powerful electrical charge. And this was noted also
Speaker 3: in the beginning in my medical records. They they discovered
Speaker 3: that my body actually produced a higher voltage of electrical
Speaker 3: energy than than most people. You know, perhaps in this form,
Speaker 3: I don't know, but they said, this is one of
Speaker 3: the things that I have. I have a very powerful
Speaker 3: electrical charge to me. And even the guide actually come
Speaker 3: through and described me as electrical. He said that this
Speaker 3: man here is electrical. So so the project was based
Speaker 3: here in the physical world and not in the you know,
Speaker 3: multi dimensional But you know that I'll put a twist
Speaker 3: on this in a moment to tell you where in
Speaker 3: fact the project actually started to go. So so what
Speaker 3: they just said is that me in this form, I
Speaker 3: was able to spy in a unique way that other
Speaker 3: people wasn't able to do. And so it was a
Speaker 3: based around warfare and advanced technology, you know. But you know,
Speaker 3: over a period of time, though with missions that I
Speaker 3: had carried out with this particular project, the scope and
Speaker 3: objectives of it started to change when they were able
Speaker 3: to see the potential of what I could do, and
Speaker 3: so further advances you know, were made into unknown territory
Speaker 3: even for them. I was able to go into unknown
Speaker 3: territory that even the Illuminati add up to this point,
Speaker 3: had never thing or I'd never sing. So they actually
Speaker 3: said that I was actually very strong in what I
Speaker 3: was able to do in terms of you know, in warfare.
Speaker 3: So what what I was able to do, I was
Speaker 3: able to enter into any location on the planet in
Speaker 3: the physical in this particular form and literally become a
Speaker 3: part of any any type of room that I entered into.
Speaker 3: So the advanced technology on many of the military bases
Speaker 3: were not able to detect me when I entered bases,
Speaker 3: and I did. Actually it is actually seeing in one
Speaker 3: of my one of my military records and files that
Speaker 3: another member another another secret space program, we were asked for,
Speaker 3: you know, they wanted me to enter into Area fifty one,
Speaker 3: and it is noted on my records that I actually
Speaker 3: you know, wasn't happy about doing this, but obviously I did,
Speaker 3: and I think what we have here is is that
Speaker 3: we have various types of you know, each nation has
Speaker 3: are involved with the You know, they have their own
Speaker 3: secret space programs, whether you know we know it or not.
Speaker 3: You know, obviously the United States has this, and there
Speaker 3: are various secret space programs that are interlinked together. But
Speaker 3: I think what you have here is is that there
Speaker 3: are certain bases like Area fifty one where certain people,
Speaker 3: even in the secret space program they're not allowed access
Speaker 3: to these sites. So what do you do? You find
Speaker 3: someone like me in the shadow form who was able
Speaker 3: to enter these sites without being detected. So the technology
Speaker 3: wasn't able to detect me, and neither were any of
Speaker 3: the alien groups that were there. I was able to
Speaker 3: go in unnoticed, gather intelligence, and come out of that
Speaker 3: base again, and then pass this information onto these other
Speaker 3: secret space programs, and whatever they did with it, I
Speaker 3: don't know. And you know, the Area fifty one base
Speaker 3: is not the first time I've been into that. I
Speaker 3: did enter the Area fifty one base many many decades ago,
Speaker 3: but I was actually in my astral form, and then
Speaker 3: on that particular time, I was actually captured in one
Speaker 3: of their containment units that are there to detect and
Speaker 3: capture an old almost like an interrogation room, either a
Speaker 3: remote viewer or an astrois projector. And you know, I was,
Speaker 3: I actually was caught in one of these containment tanks
Speaker 3: and I was questioned, but I was lucky because I
Speaker 3: actually was released. I got out from it. But you know,
Speaker 3: if you were not released from it, and if you're
Speaker 3: a nactual projector and you're held within this containment, so
Speaker 3: your your astral form will stay in that base indefinitely
Speaker 3: for however long they want you there, but your physical body,
Speaker 3: wherever that may be, that will die that you know,
Speaker 3: you're just you're just dying because you're you know that
Speaker 3: you're no longer there in it, and so you know
Speaker 3: that would just be probably you know, recorded as a
Speaker 3: you know, a natural death of some sort, and then
Speaker 3: your actual self will still be at this particular base.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if they have containment you know,
Speaker 3: chambers like this in everywhere, but I do know they
Speaker 3: do have them in Area fifty one. But when I
Speaker 3: was in the shadow form, containments chambers and detectors were
Speaker 3: not able to detect my presence at that time on
Speaker 3: that base. Some of my my body as well, is
Speaker 3: able to ouse, is able to contain certain abilities because
Speaker 3: of the amount of electricity surrounding it when it is
Speaker 3: in that form, you know. So I'm pretty sure my
Speaker 3: handlers will be you know, pissed off at me really
Speaker 3: for revealing parts of this secret project. And you know,
Speaker 3: I've at the moment, I've only touched upon a very
Speaker 3: tiny amount of the information that we've been able to uncover. Again,
Speaker 3: but you know, some of my handlers are actually overseeing
Speaker 3: by an old order. They're actually a group or a sect,
Speaker 3: an elite unit of and you know, they consist of
Speaker 3: members of the round Table like the Builder Bugs grew.
Speaker 3: These are part of who are in charge of me
Speaker 3: among others is you know, Monic Solutions. And again you know,
Speaker 3: uh who is it? Kruger Kruger International. You know, OLIVERA
Speaker 3: has more Olivia has more information than that. I think
Speaker 3: they actually they actually call themselves the Order of the Shadow.
Speaker 3: My operational code name within this project is Nemesis, So
Speaker 3: I am you know, I'm known as the Shadow, but
Speaker 3: my project's name is actually the Nemesis, So you know,
Speaker 3: and some of the objectives that they are working with
Speaker 3: at the moment is is to destroy the is actually
Speaker 3: to destroy the divine energy on planet Earth. That's one
Speaker 3: of it. You know, this is one of the goals
Speaker 3: of the New World Order. But under this particular project,
Speaker 3: this is one of their mission objectives to destroy the
Speaker 3: the you know, the divine energy on the Earth. Another
Speaker 3: one of their objectives, which is much more ambitious, is
Speaker 3: actually to enter into the ah Angelic realms and create
Speaker 3: a second war there. Now, you know, it must emphasize
Speaker 3: this is quite difficult, but I must point out it's
Speaker 3: not impossible. It can be done with you know, with
Speaker 3: the right information, you can enter those realms, those iron realms,
Speaker 3: and you can bring war there. It's very you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, there is another piece of information that we've
Speaker 3: gathered about about something. I mean, Olivia, I think, can
Speaker 3: you know, update you on that in the moment. But
Speaker 3: what I wanted to say is also is you know,
Speaker 3: this particular project, it was actually based around the physical
Speaker 3: so it wasn't based around the inter dimensional realms like
Speaker 3: the astral realms or or you know, the metaverse. But
Speaker 3: what I actually did was I actually took the projects
Speaker 3: in a different direction, so they were they were concentrating there,
Speaker 3: you know, they were concentrating on the physical here and
Speaker 3: wanting me to do you know, various tasks in the
Speaker 3: physical world. But you know, I actually went further than this.
Speaker 3: I actually started to move myself without their you know,
Speaker 3: without their mission objectives or their orders which are given
Speaker 3: to me. I actually took it into the astral realm.
Speaker 3: I took it into the metaverse. It was noted in
Speaker 3: my records as well that I was able to fold
Speaker 3: space in a way that it wasn't never it's not
Speaker 3: being done before. I was actually able to take this
Speaker 3: project into a different direction to what they actually believed
Speaker 3: could be actually achieved. But you know, so I started
Speaker 3: to do this. So whatever what I did, I started
Speaker 3: to go against it orders. I started to basically fuck
Speaker 3: them over basically, and in the physical, in this form,
Speaker 3: in the physical in even you know, in the shadow form,
Speaker 3: they can control me. They have control over me, they
Speaker 3: can dictate to me and and you know, and and
Speaker 3: keep me in place, they can keep me in line.
Speaker 3: But when I'm outside in this form in the astral levels,
Speaker 3: they can't control me. Their technology can't touch me, and
Speaker 3: they can't control me. And they found me down a
Speaker 3: threat to their projects because I was actually going into
Speaker 3: these realms where they couldn't do soddle about it. They
Speaker 3: couldn't touch me, and but they pointed out they can
Speaker 3: touch me in the physical. But then again, you know,
Speaker 3: there's another twist on this that will come up at
Speaker 3: some point in the physical. Even so, what they started
Speaker 3: to do, they started to you know, note my you know,
Speaker 3: subordination on the project. I started to break with protocol.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do what they wanted me to do, and
Speaker 3: I found an escape route from from them by traveling
Speaker 3: into these other areas where you know, basically I was
Speaker 3: giving them the you know, the bird, really the finger,
Speaker 3: and they couldn't do soddle about it, you know, because
Speaker 3: I again, you know, like many of the projects we've
Speaker 3: been involved in, you know, the super Soldiers, we you know,
Speaker 3: we we've not you know, for myself anywhere I can speak,
Speaker 3: I didn't volunteer for these projects. I was brought into
Speaker 3: them as a child obviously. You know. They they've sought
Speaker 3: us out through through Monarch's solutions to you know, they
Speaker 3: call us assets, you know, commodities, you know, and they
Speaker 3: you know, they they are you know, they use their
Speaker 3: skill sets because you know what you have to understand
Speaker 3: is and I think you know this as well, that
Speaker 3: many of those that control these projects they cannot work
Speaker 3: with this technology these with you know, they don't have
Speaker 3: the skill that we have to work the technology that
Speaker 3: they have. So they need us to do that, you know.
Speaker 3: So they've set up all these projects, all these programs,
Speaker 3: all these sub programs, and they use us, you know,
Speaker 3: they they they use our altars and you know, and
Speaker 3: and program then with you know, quantum type technology, upload
Speaker 3: them into avatar bodies and send them off to do
Speaker 3: whatever it is they do, whilst we have some altars
Speaker 3: that are still you know, inactive inside us, within our system,
Speaker 3: within our mind, you know, ready and waiting to be
Speaker 3: called upon for military duty god knows where, you know.
Speaker 3: So so in a way, they lost control of me.
Speaker 3: You know, this was noted that although my mission objectives
Speaker 3: were always successful and I was to do what they
Speaker 3: wanted me to do because of I guess the ability
Speaker 3: I had. And so when they lost control of me,
Speaker 3: you know, the project suddenly, you know, it was noted
Speaker 3: as well in my records that the project was abandoned.
Speaker 3: It was abandoned because they could no longer control me.
Speaker 3: So what I was done. I was actually partially removed,
Speaker 3: only partially from this particular project or you know, the
Speaker 3: military programs. So in a way, I was, you know,
Speaker 3: on the fence, I guess, waiting to be recalled back,
Speaker 3: if necessary, into this project, to be reactivated again for
Speaker 3: mission for active duty. So so another thing, you know,
Speaker 3: another another thing I need to emphasize is that when
Speaker 3: I was in this form, this wasn't an altar. This
Speaker 3: was a skill set I have in this body which
Speaker 3: I can do even to this day. But what they
Speaker 3: what they've been doing, it is that over six there
Speaker 3: have been six times now that they've actually changed my timelines.
Speaker 3: My timelines have been changed and altered, which you know,
Speaker 3: which has been against my will. The reason they've done
Speaker 3: this is because on each of these timelines, I've actually
Speaker 3: been trying to bring I've actually been trying to bring
Speaker 3: in this form into this world, into the physical. On
Speaker 3: each time line that's been changed, I've got closer and
Speaker 3: closer to doing this without there, you know, without them
Speaker 3: using me. So I'm so, you know, I guess this
Speaker 3: would be now the seventh time they have not changed
Speaker 3: my timeline yet, but the handlers that and only have
Speaker 3: told me. You know that that is a possibility that
Speaker 3: they would do that again because frightened that. You know,
Speaker 3: if I'm able to bring myself on my own merits
Speaker 3: back into the shadow form, you know, you just got
Speaker 3: to think, really what I could do with that. I
Speaker 3: could do amazing things with that. And it seems like
Speaker 3: on this particular timeline I'm on now, it has been
Speaker 3: noted that I will be able to do this very soon.
Speaker 3: I will be able to bring it back into the
Speaker 3: physical without their help, and I will be able to
Speaker 3: run with it. Now they consider that a threat, and
Speaker 3: it would be a threat because I would actually use
Speaker 3: it against them. And another thing is is that when
Speaker 3: I entered into the astral realms and the metaverse, I
Speaker 3: wasn't in and I wasn't an autar, I wasn't in
Speaker 3: the astral body. I was in my physical body in
Speaker 3: this shadow form. I was able to enter the astral
Speaker 3: realms in the physical type body, and I was able
Speaker 3: to enter the metaverse and other areas of these particular
Speaker 3: dimensions that for actually outside of many of the projects
Speaker 3: that we have today. But but they have, you know now,
Speaker 3: they have actually from what we understand, they have other
Speaker 3: types of shadow being started working with them as well.
Speaker 3: You know that they've actually taken on into the projects,
Speaker 3: but in a different shape and form to myself. And
Speaker 3: you know, other what we've discovered as well, other types
Speaker 3: of projects that I've been involved with. I mean, any
Speaker 3: of you guys in the chat room, you know, may
Speaker 3: know more about these than what we do.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: One of them was called Project Grand Dom d O M.
Speaker 3: One was called Project light Switch. Another ones on what
Speaker 3: was noted on my records was Project Plain Clothes, Project
Speaker 3: which Blade. So you know, these are just a few
Speaker 3: that we've discovered so far. I mean, if you any
Speaker 3: of you guys know what they are, you know, please,
Speaker 3: you know, if you if possible, give me it ends
Speaker 3: up please, you know, I'd like to know more about
Speaker 3: these particular projects that I've been involved in because at
Speaker 3: the moment, you know, I don't really know anything about these,
Speaker 3: only that I've been involved with them at some point.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, a lot more information come up
Speaker 3: as well about being involved with you know, the Secret
Speaker 3: Space program and as a super soldier, and again there
Speaker 3: were at times I was utilized on Mars in actually
Speaker 3: the shadow form, you know, I guess as a super
Speaker 3: soldier in that form, and I worked mostly on my
Speaker 3: on my own. From what we can understand is that
Speaker 3: I was taken to a military base in the United
Speaker 3: Them where actually a lot of super soldiers go, including
Speaker 3: those from the United States, and then they are then
Speaker 3: brought you know, over to Mars to you know, to
Speaker 3: carry out various projects. But whilst I was actually on
Speaker 3: this particular base, they actually kept me. They kept me
Speaker 3: separated from other super soldiers, and it was also noted
Speaker 3: that when I was on the base, you know, there
Speaker 3: were a few super soldiers there that actually called me
Speaker 3: a freak because you know, they knew I was part
Speaker 3: of a sub type project involving the secret space program.
Speaker 3: But you know, nevertheless, we were on the same team.
Speaker 3: It's just that, you know, it wasn't my fault. I
Speaker 3: was separated. I was separated, and I think they kept
Speaker 3: me in, you know, in a different part of the base,
Speaker 3: away from the other super soldiers, you know, for for
Speaker 3: I don't know, for maybe for control purposes. I think
Speaker 3: Olivia might have more information than why you know they
Speaker 3: do that. But you know, nevertheless, you know I was
Speaker 3: also you know, I have many authors that were was
Speaker 3: involved in the secret Space program and on Mars as
Speaker 3: a super Soldier, I was actually an officer, a commanding
Speaker 3: officer many times in many of the roles that I've
Speaker 3: carried out. Another another piece of information that I was
Speaker 3: given is that, you know, they said that my IQ
Speaker 3: is very I It's higher, is higher up than what
Speaker 3: I've been led to believe for most of my life.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not stupid, of course, but it's actually
Speaker 3: at a higher level. I mean when I was doing
Speaker 3: research as well. It actually states that, you know, my
Speaker 3: my IQ was higher than one forty and that this
Speaker 3: was recorded from when I was a child, because they
Speaker 3: said the game it was measured, My IQ was measured,
Speaker 3: and it was something they were able to utilize. Again,
Speaker 3: but it was also I was programmed to believe that
Speaker 3: my IQ was a lot lower than what it is,
Speaker 3: so that I wasn't able to cause them problems. And
Speaker 3: also because I wouldn't be able to do certain things,
Speaker 3: it would isolate me, it would cause me a lot
Speaker 3: of pain. And again we come back to, you know,
Speaker 3: the this ability of being a portal person. And I
Speaker 3: know that many of us in the Secret Space program,
Speaker 3: in the super Soldier programs, I know there's many people,
Speaker 3: many you know, super soldiers that are portal people. They
Speaker 3: have the ability to open and close portals. You know,
Speaker 3: this is a skill set that we all possess, and
Speaker 3: it's one that they also, you know, they use for
Speaker 3: their own purposes, along with many of the other skill
Speaker 3: sets that we have. They use this for their own benefits.
Speaker 3: And obviously they're making money out of it as well.
Speaker 3: So you know, this is something you know that is
Speaker 3: obviously wrong and it's something that we need to do
Speaker 3: something about. You know, it's all very well having disclosure,
Speaker 3: but you know, I'm looking at something a little bit
Speaker 3: more colorful to do with this anyway. But you know,
Speaker 3: this is where you know, I'm going to end my discussion.
Speaker 3: But as I said, there is a lot more information
Speaker 3: that I have that we've uncovered about this particular project
Speaker 3: and myself in the form of the shadow or you know,
Speaker 3: the Nemesis as they would call me. And you know,
Speaker 3: this is something I'd like to share later on with
Speaker 3: you and you know, go over a lot more of
Speaker 3: the details involved in this particular project, you know, and
Speaker 3: I think, you know, Olivia, if you'd like to, you know,
Speaker 3: tell them a little bit more about I was going to.
Speaker 4: Talk about what happened when I went in the base.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, you want to help me with this one.
Speaker 4: So when I was doing this session for Michael, I
Speaker 4: wanted to try this thing called remote influencing. So because
Speaker 4: we were kind of getting there were some places we
Speaker 4: were getting stuck. And I'm telling you what I've been doing.
Speaker 4: I've been practicing a lot, and some of these handlers
Speaker 4: they have abilities to and some of them are really
Speaker 4: tough to get past their wall because what I do
Speaker 4: when I do this, it's sometimes I can interact with
Speaker 4: the other person by doing something I call talking to
Speaker 4: their brain. I don't know how else to describe it
Speaker 4: except I'm able to connect with their their higher self
Speaker 4: and get information from them, you know, in that way.
Speaker 4: So I wanted to go in this base, and we
Speaker 4: were able to get into a base called Pine Gap,
Speaker 4: so remote, I remote viewed and kind of astral travel though,
Speaker 4: so I was there. It's not just looking at it.
Speaker 4: I actually traveled to this place. So once I got inside,
Speaker 4: there was this an the inside of this place, there
Speaker 4: was this huge locked door and it had a number
Speaker 4: red code at the top, and I couldn't get in.
Speaker 4: I couldn't see a way into it. I kept, you know,
Speaker 4: kind of fumbling around and I couldn't get into you know,
Speaker 4: I couldn't figure out. So Matthew kind of guided me.
Speaker 4: He told me to kind of do something different and
Speaker 4: to go underneath, you know, kind of like in the dirt,
Speaker 4: to go underneath it and come up through the top.
Speaker 4: So that's kind of what I tried, and I end
Speaker 4: up I was in the middle of this huge It
Speaker 4: looked like a bunch of not even an office room,
Speaker 4: almost like a government well it did look like a
Speaker 4: government building. And they had all these different levels and
Speaker 4: there are different people sitting at different computers and I
Speaker 4: the place is so locked down, and even on the
Speaker 4: outside of the base, they have their own like own
Speaker 4: I don't even know. It's almost like a unit of
Speaker 4: people that are blocking, you know, some one like me
Speaker 4: who they A lot of times I hear the word lurkers.
Speaker 4: That's what they call us as a lurker. So they're
Speaker 4: trying to block other people that have abilities such as
Speaker 4: remote viewing, astral travel and things like that. They have
Speaker 4: their own unit. When I first came upon the base,
Speaker 4: I saw this huge eyeball and it just was like
Speaker 4: an impressed in my mind, they watching you, they know,
Speaker 4: you know kind of thing. But when we were able
Speaker 4: to go underneath and come back up, I was in
Speaker 4: this big, huge room with all these people working at
Speaker 4: their computers, and I kind of had to scan out
Speaker 4: and it was a little bit difficult. I'm just learning
Speaker 4: how to do this, this remote influencing. So I was
Speaker 4: kind of looking for somebody that was I felt like,
Speaker 4: in my way of detecting, was able to see somebody
Speaker 4: that was a little bit less guarded or without less
Speaker 4: walls in order to let me in their body. And
Speaker 4: you know, I don't want to freak people out, but
Speaker 4: it's almost like a like a possession in a way.
Speaker 4: I kind of get inside their body and kind of
Speaker 4: take over, just like I allow entities to do with me.
Speaker 4: So I found this woman. She was kind of sitting
Speaker 4: towards the middle, and she had glasses, dark hair, She
Speaker 4: had her hair pulled up in a bun, and she
Speaker 4: seemed like she she seemed the way the reason I
Speaker 4: chose her because she seemed like she was off focus
Speaker 4: because of what was going on in her personal life.
Speaker 4: I could, you know, I could hear her talking about
Speaker 4: you know, you know, thinking about her boyfriend and things
Speaker 4: like that. So this was the person that I chose
Speaker 4: to kind of influence. So when I got inside her body,
Speaker 4: I kind of started typing right at the computer with
Speaker 4: her hands, and she didn't know, so I kind of
Speaker 4: made her go in and search, you know, different project
Speaker 4: names and things and things like that, and she had
Speaker 4: no clue. It took her. I don't even think she
Speaker 4: realized it before somebody else caught it. As we were
Speaker 4: going through this, I think it was maybe we lasted.
Speaker 4: I think I lasted maybe four minutes before somebody caught it.
Speaker 4: Because as soon as I, as soon as I saw this,
Speaker 4: it was we had to back out. There was a
Speaker 4: big notice on the on her screen. It said break screen,
Speaker 4: and which means she had to stop everything. And she
Speaker 4: then she knew, and she, you know, she was kind
Speaker 4: of like startled, and then I just jumped out and
Speaker 4: then we left, but not before we were able to
Speaker 4: get a lot of information from the computer and just
Speaker 4: from being able to enter this place and see what
Speaker 4: it's real and see that it's way locked down behind
Speaker 4: all these different doors and panels, and that they have
Speaker 4: their own unit that are trying to block remote viewers,
Speaker 4: you know, and they're remote viewers themselves, and they when
Speaker 4: you're doing remote viewing, you you're sometimes you can push
Speaker 4: out these energies. They're called almost like energy assassins, if
Speaker 4: you've ever heard of anything like that. They can even
Speaker 4: make energetic voodoo dolls. So some of these people were
Speaker 4: able to they can push out energy that I've encountered
Speaker 4: them on Mars. When I'm trying to get into a door.
Speaker 4: They'd have their own team that they can actually hit
Speaker 4: you with astral bats. And it feels real in the
Speaker 4: astral It's not to me, it doesn't feel fake. I
Speaker 4: feel sore sometimes when I get up out of trance
Speaker 4: or you know, in this particular session, and when I
Speaker 4: got out of trance, I had my I had a
Speaker 4: tear in my leg. So, you know, it's really interesting
Speaker 4: how some things can creep into from the astro into
Speaker 4: the physical world.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely real for sure.
Speaker 3: Is there anything else, Olivia you can add to, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe speak about the time you saw me in China?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So when I remote viewed you in China, I
Speaker 4: saw you in this huge club and when I was there,
Speaker 4: it's almost felt like I was like standing behind you,
Speaker 4: and you were very buttoned up, kind of like fancy
Speaker 4: shirt type and you know, kind of hanging out with
Speaker 4: these really kind of really pretty tall, you know, blonde women,
Speaker 4: and it looked like you were kind of I don't
Speaker 4: want to say for sure, but it looked like almost
Speaker 4: like you were setting these women up, you know, with
Speaker 4: some of these men that were sitting at a table.
Speaker 4: So it was just a real kind of like lively place,
Speaker 4: a lot of drinking going on, a lot of music
Speaker 4: and things like that. But I think that one of
Speaker 4: those people that you were at the table with you
Speaker 4: had known in a on a different base that you
Speaker 4: guys had some type of connection on a bass that
Speaker 4: you knew her already. So that's kind of what I
Speaker 4: remember from that from seeing it with my eyes.
Speaker 3: Okay, let me thank you. So I'm finishing my presentation
Speaker 3: at the moment, Robert.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I was gonna wait, let me see, can
Speaker 1: you guys hear me. I don't know if whoever wants
Speaker 1: to go next, Nate, did you want to talk a
Speaker 1: little bit, or did you have anything you wanted to
Speaker 1: do or Matthew or we've been going for a while.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, we might want to do
Speaker 1: a part two, but if you guys want to. Nate
Speaker 1: really didn't get a chance to talk yet, so maybe
Speaker 1: you Nate could talk and then maybe we could wrap
Speaker 1: it up or I don't know, Like where, what do
Speaker 1: you want to do? Olivia? What do you think? Like you?
Speaker 1: What do you think about?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds good. Let Nathan talk a little bit
Speaker 4: about what he discovered.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's back here. It's hot in here, everybody.
Speaker 6: So I just wanted to mention one thing I've been
Speaker 6: reading years ago that these underground installations have something called
Speaker 6: a neutrino light detector and that to detect people remote viewing,
Speaker 6: astral projecting, and so forth. So what Michael was talking
Speaker 6: about apparently is the ability to master your neutrino light signature.
Speaker 6: So I just wanted to add that. And apparently neutrino's
Speaker 6: what I understand, and I could be wrong about this,
Speaker 6: are the fundamental particles of the soul and basically the
Speaker 6: conscious reality. And I think neutrinos don't have a charge,
Speaker 6: which is why they're called neutrinos, but they have the
Speaker 6: ability to I think, manifest into matter. And if you
Speaker 6: think about it, what comes out of which is just
Speaker 6: a flood of neutrinos, so you know what's on the
Speaker 6: other side of that. And we hear that stars actually
Speaker 6: give you the ability to go from one plane of
Speaker 6: existence over to another, like a hyperspace or like a
Speaker 6: neutrino universe, and you come back in. You can come
Speaker 6: in at any point in time and space. So I
Speaker 6: just wanted to add that. But if you want, I
Speaker 6: can get started with my stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be great.
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, Well, I don't know how long it's been.
Speaker 6: Probably it's probably been about two months now, maybe a
Speaker 6: little longer. But you know, I went through kind of
Speaker 6: a rough period of my life and a lot of
Speaker 6: spiritual receptions, and then I had this epiphany. I won't
Speaker 6: get into the whole deal of it, but I had
Speaker 6: to make some very very abrupt, you know, changes in
Speaker 6: my life in regard to what I was doing in
Speaker 6: regard to all of this. And immediately after I did that,
Speaker 6: I got three nasty messages. They were one day apart,
Speaker 6: and it was actually three different handlers that I have
Speaker 6: in the military. The one was portraying himself as a
Speaker 6: draco and made a bunch of threats and then the
Speaker 6: second one just it was it was a lot of
Speaker 6: profanity and you know, more threats. And then the last
Speaker 6: one came in, which was more of the you know,
Speaker 6: chilling message, and I talked about that in the last
Speaker 6: podcast and I was here. So what I did was
Speaker 6: is I remembered your podcast with Olivia rov and I
Speaker 6: remember her being able to you know.
Speaker 2: To remote you military records.
Speaker 6: So I thought this would be the perfect person to contact,
Speaker 6: and I reached out to her on Facebook and within
Speaker 6: I don't know, an hour or two, she got back
Speaker 6: with me, and within no time at all, we were
Speaker 6: on the phone the same day and she offered, you know,
Speaker 6: to do a session. And I had no idea that
Speaker 6: she worked you know, with any anybody else. I didn't
Speaker 6: know that she was in that you know.
Speaker 2: She worked with.
Speaker 6: Nisha for example, so you know, I just said sure.
Speaker 6: So you know, we started the session and you know,
Speaker 6: Matt was there, and the first thing that happened was
Speaker 6: is that the succubists came through. And when she was
Speaker 6: describing it earlier in the podcast here, she said, there
Speaker 6: was a farmhouse and there was a cornfield next to it,
Speaker 6: and I actually saw that. I thought I was imagining
Speaker 6: it because she described this, you know, like a farmhouse
Speaker 6: she was in and what happened was the suckubist pulled
Speaker 6: her into this farmhouse I was trying to get, you know,
Speaker 6: messages to Matt and was obscuring her ability to move around,
Speaker 6: and she had to get out of there. So I
Speaker 6: saw that, and you know which I was just saying earlier,
Speaker 6: I said to Matt. I sent them a text and
Speaker 6: I said, you know, a lot of these things that
Speaker 6: I think I'm imagining, I'm actually seeing. And so that
Speaker 6: was an interesting thing I wanted to mention. But as
Speaker 6: we got into the session, the first goal was to
Speaker 6: reach out to my handlers and uh to find out
Speaker 6: what the story was, because they said they were going
Speaker 6: to kill me in December. They said, you'll you'll reach
Speaker 6: the month of December for this year, but she won't
Speaker 6: make it to Christmas. And it was it was a
Speaker 6: scare tactic, is what it was. So that was my
Speaker 6: main motivation was to figure this out. So she contacts
Speaker 6: a handler named Jarrett. Jared's the head guy that actually
Speaker 6: handles me. He's been in charge of me for a
Speaker 6: very long time, according to him, since the beginning and
Speaker 6: there's another one, Alex, and there's another one called Roger.
Speaker 6: I know this because they came through after and they started,
Speaker 6: you know, to communicate with me every day to the
Speaker 6: point where I would have one or the other and
Speaker 6: they would run shifts and then I would hear, you know,
Speaker 6: from the main guy, Jarrett. But she was able to
Speaker 6: get his home street address where he lived, and it
Speaker 6: was shree Sport, Louisiana, and we looked the address up,
Speaker 6: but it wasn't in Louisiana. I think it was a
Speaker 6: Florida address that we were seeing. And so then I
Speaker 6: found out later that that because I asked him about it,
Speaker 6: why didn't your address show up? And he says, we're
Speaker 6: on a different We're on another timeline. And what they're
Speaker 6: doing is is they compartmentalize these companies, you know, like
Speaker 6: a cruger or a monarch. They'll be on one timeline,
Speaker 6: but they'll be functioning and having an effect on all
Speaker 6: the others. So it's like a time corporation is the
Speaker 6: way people refer to it as. So that way, it's
Speaker 6: the ultimate compartmentalization. If you put a corporation as a
Speaker 6: military contractor on a different timeline and then it interacts
Speaker 6: with timelines that it's not physically on. You have the
Speaker 6: ultimate way to keep it secret. You don't really have
Speaker 6: to worry about a paper trail of any kind of
Speaker 6: if there ever was an investigation to figure this out.
Speaker 6: So you know, that was the reason for some of
Speaker 6: these discrepancies, and because I asked Luly at one point,
Speaker 6: which timeline is the end?
Speaker 2: And she said this one.
Speaker 6: But I think, you know, according to what they told me,
Speaker 6: they were obscuring that aspect of it. I don't know
Speaker 6: if they got much more. I don't think they're really
Speaker 6: successful in other ways to secure things. But that would
Speaker 6: be the reason why we couldn't look up those addresses
Speaker 6: and actually find the ones that you know, like I said,
Speaker 6: there wasn't a shreet sport in Louisiana. There wasn't an
Speaker 6: address to match the one that we had. But anyway,
Speaker 6: he was really pissed off that she got his first
Speaker 6: and last name and his address. So it was rather funny,
Speaker 6: but he was very profane.
Speaker 2: It was f U f this. He put on a
Speaker 2: fairly good show.
Speaker 6: And the only issue with that was is that the
Speaker 6: first thirty minutes I didn't set the recorder on for
Speaker 6: the zoom meeting, so I had to go by memory.
Speaker 2: A lot of that stuff.
Speaker 6: The one of the things that came out is that
Speaker 6: I have two hundred and ninety seven altars, and I
Speaker 6: would assume I'm two hundred ninety seven and there's two
Speaker 6: hundred ninety six besides me. That was something that came out.
Speaker 6: Another thing that came out, and this had to do
Speaker 6: with the monarch stuff. And what's interesting about this is
Speaker 6: that somebody could say, you know, if you're skeptical, you
Speaker 6: could say, well, you know, you're doing a channeling session.
Speaker 6: These were evil spirits coming through. They're just feeding you nonsense.
Speaker 6: They're giving you what you want to hear, what you
Speaker 6: think you're going to hear. Well, that was completely opposite
Speaker 6: of what happened with this. I had for for a while.
Speaker 6: I knew that there was some type of assassin related usage,
Speaker 6: that they were using me as an assassin, That's what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. So I knew that. I also knew that
Speaker 6: there was a lot of monarch stuff going on because
Speaker 6: of the things that when I analyze my life and
Speaker 6: I go back to at age seven, I can look
Speaker 6: and I can see where these behaviors started. The surface
Speaker 6: there were were program related. It's seven. You know, a
Speaker 6: seven year old has never been molested or never been
Speaker 6: had any of those issues, should not have the type
Speaker 6: of thoughts in sexual fantasies that I had. And there
Speaker 6: was something I never talked about with adults or therapists
Speaker 6: or anything like that, any of it, and it was
Speaker 6: just something that I had to solve on my own.
Speaker 6: And there was something that they used against me throughout
Speaker 6: my life. So what happened was is is that interesting?
Speaker 6: And interestingly enough, an alter name Jesse or Jessica came out.
Speaker 6: I think she went by a named Jesse, and she
Speaker 6: was basically the female version of me, fair skin, long
Speaker 6: line hair, you know, you know, just sort of like
Speaker 6: an ample figure and stuff. And she was used in
Speaker 6: some very very violent sexual type of activity. And this
Speaker 6: alter was inside me, not physically external to me. And
Speaker 6: the things that she said were very very disturbing and
Speaker 6: they hurt to hear because when I heard them and
Speaker 6: I just kind of felt the energy and the mood
Speaker 6: and everything that was happening, I knew that this was
Speaker 6: one of the reasons why there was so many problems
Speaker 6: with me during my childhood and throughout my life. With
Speaker 6: things of the sexual nature because of what they were
Speaker 6: doing to me, and they were bringing out these aspects,
Speaker 6: these behaviors in me which I had to keep secret
Speaker 6: and I couldn't. I mean, they drove a wedge in
Speaker 6: my marriage. It was just like, you want to do
Speaker 6: one thing that's completely unnatural and completely twisted, and you're
Speaker 6: thinking of that, and you're fixated on that because you're
Speaker 6: programmed with that, and yet you want to have a
Speaker 6: normal sexual life. You want to have a normal life,
Speaker 6: but you're not allowed to have that because they're constantly
Speaker 6: messing with you. And that was where they take these aspects,
Speaker 6: these personality traits of alters, they mix it with you,
Speaker 6: and I went through a period of a couple of
Speaker 6: different personality shifts about my life and fact they've been
Speaker 6: doing stuff to me recently, taking little bits out, and
Speaker 6: there's been an internal struggle of trying to hold on
Speaker 6: to aspects of myself that I don't want them to take,
Speaker 6: and other aspects that they put in that I don't
Speaker 6: want in me that I've pushed out. So I'm actively
Speaker 6: in that struggle right now. So anyway, as we got
Speaker 6: into the session, something really, really really unfortunately came out
Speaker 6: because there's when I was a kid, and I've talked
Speaker 6: about this before and it's not it's not something I
Speaker 6: talk about often. But when I was around, say, between
Speaker 6: when I got to about nine years old, I started
Speaker 6: to exhibit a lot of violent.
Speaker 2: Behavior in school.
Speaker 6: And it was it started around fourth grade, and I
Speaker 6: would I would literally exhibit violent street fighting skills with
Speaker 6: with you know kids, and it was always unprovoked. It
Speaker 6: wasn't anything justifiable. I mean, if if you can imagine
Speaker 6: a nine year old taking another child's head in like
Speaker 6: slamming it into the hand on a urinal and you know,
Speaker 6: to where the kid nearly loses his teeth and things
Speaker 6: like that, that's the kind of things that was happening.
Speaker 6: And they put a block in me to make me
Speaker 6: nonviolent as a child. I'm talking about the programs. That is,
Speaker 6: I could not defend myself when there was a confrontation.
Speaker 6: My voice would give out, it would it would just
Speaker 6: I couldn't talk. It was like I nothing came out
Speaker 6: when I tried to speak, and I'd be humiliated. I
Speaker 6: couldn't offend myself. I couldn't tap into that anger response
Speaker 6: where you fight, and they did this to me up
Speaker 6: until I'd say probably my mid forties when it actually
Speaker 6: came out. So we figured out why, at least one
Speaker 6: of the reasons why. And during the session, Olivia tapped
Speaker 6: into this altar that is used by Kruger National. Let
Speaker 6: me see if I got some relevant notes here, just
Speaker 6: a couple of things. She came up with information. In
Speaker 6: nineteen fifty three, the Kruger Joint Planetary Commission was founded,
Speaker 6: and I don't know much about that. I mean, it
Speaker 6: sort of speaks for itself, a joint planetary commission. It's
Speaker 6: obviously off planet type of activities. There was another thing
Speaker 6: that came up in a session with Michael. I think
Speaker 6: it was the name Robert Kruger, which could be the
Speaker 6: founder of this company. And of course this is a
Speaker 6: private military contractor it's involved with the secret space program.
Speaker 6: There was another thing that came out too. There was
Speaker 6: a supervisor that my main handler, Jarrett, had turned this
Speaker 6: over to, and she had spoke through Olivia.
Speaker 2: She came out very robotically. Her name was.
Speaker 6: What was it, Amy Jasper. And another thing that came
Speaker 6: out too is that these handlers of mine worked for
Speaker 6: a company called soft Cell International. When we looked up
Speaker 6: soft Cell International and we didn't get anything except for
Speaker 6: this Indian company that had the same name, and I
Speaker 6: don't remember what they did. It might have been it
Speaker 6: related or marketing.
Speaker 2: But okay, was tech and so it was spot on. Okay.
Speaker 2: The thing is that that.
Speaker 6: Is I mean, that's either a front company for something else,
Speaker 6: or it could be that this is on a different timeline.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I do know it wasn't a
Speaker 4: different timeline.
Speaker 2: So you think that was it as a front company.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't work for the company, but if we looked further,
Speaker 4: we'd probably see Yeah, because.
Speaker 6: I didn't, I didn't see anything whether obviously not going
Speaker 6: to show anything that that would be.
Speaker 4: No, you can't. It's that's why we got the name.
Speaker 4: It's we got it.
Speaker 6: So so anyway, you went into somebody, do you remember
Speaker 6: was it Alex or something?
Speaker 2: I think he said it was a black guy was
Speaker 2: sitting in a desk.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember him. Yeah, he had a suit on,
Speaker 4: like a like a tie.
Speaker 2: Kind of Do you remember.
Speaker 6: Because they're they're using the name Alex as one of
Speaker 6: my handlers, do you think that's one of them? Or
Speaker 6: do you just think this was somebody who did.
Speaker 4: Some type of no separate. It was separate, all right?
Speaker 6: Do you remember much about that because I remember you
Speaker 6: took over his ability. I think he took his hands there,
Speaker 6: didn't you where he typed in some information, was able
Speaker 6: to was.
Speaker 2: Able to pull it up.
Speaker 4: I took over his body, didn't I?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember you were really no.
Speaker 4: But he didn't let me go very no. I think
Speaker 4: I got it was like one of my first time
Speaker 4: and I didn't. I think I came into heavy. I
Speaker 4: think Matt tells me that's what, because he helps me practice.
Speaker 4: I think I come into heavy and my first time
Speaker 4: I came into heavy and it was detectable, so I
Speaker 4: had to back out. I think the second time I
Speaker 4: tried it, it was a little bit better.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I remember you being you're you were excited
Speaker 6: that you were able to be successful with it because
Speaker 6: you said it was something new that you were working on,
Speaker 6: which is remote influencing. So we got through all that,
Speaker 6: and you know, and I'm going to save the rough
Speaker 6: stuff to last. But so family members came through it,
Speaker 6: and Ramenin came through. They claimed to know me. I
Speaker 6: had the recollection of him and the spir guy came through.
Speaker 6: I think his name is Harold, I don't know who
Speaker 6: that is. And a very loving presence came through. Who's
Speaker 6: you know, la Verne Higgins, my grandmother. And it's unfortunate
Speaker 6: because I mean I wept when she spoke. The problem
Speaker 6: was that I felt bad about this because with all
Speaker 6: the deception that I've had, I couldn't express anything to
Speaker 6: her as I I feel like I had to protect myself,
Speaker 6: and I regret.
Speaker 4: She felt it. She felt everything, though, and I've never
Speaker 4: felt so much emotion come through one person. I was
Speaker 4: literally laying in a trance crying. The mask I was
Speaker 4: where it was wet. It was so wet just from
Speaker 4: tears of this person and how much motion and how
Speaker 4: much pride she had for you in your journey and
Speaker 4: your experience. So you have to know that she was
Speaker 4: proud of everything you've done, and her main message is,
Speaker 4: you know, keep going and keep doing what you have
Speaker 4: to do. And I didn't. The whole thing to me
Speaker 4: was like one of the most amazing things I've ever done,
Speaker 4: is to allow her to speak to you and or
Speaker 4: show you how much she loved you. Matt can chime
Speaker 4: it a little bit if he remembers that part and
Speaker 4: how intense the emotion once, how intense the emotionless.
Speaker 5: Very much like the transfer that I've been able to witness,
Speaker 5: you know, throughout my experiences.
Speaker 2: It was a really amazing thing, I thought.
Speaker 6: So anyway, Oh.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I just had to get myself together.
Speaker 1: So this is a lot, Nate. I just want to
Speaker 1: say that, like, you're you're very courageous for like that,
Speaker 1: you know, doing this, and all the audience is behind you.
Speaker 1: Everybody's like really supportive, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: so everybody wants to be able to tell your story.
Speaker 1: So take your time whatever, whateverever time you need, you know,
Speaker 1: and uh and we support you one hundred you know.
Speaker 6: So thank you, Rob, and thank you everybody out there.
Speaker 6: Yeah that that is a really hard subject for me
Speaker 6: to talk about, h.
Speaker 4: M hm.
Speaker 6: And it's something that I'm gonna have to just kind
Speaker 6: of put on ice. I don't have the emotional strength
Speaker 6: to carry this conversation on in that direction because there's
Speaker 6: there's a lot of unfinished Yeah, there's there. There there's
Speaker 6: a lot.
Speaker 2: Of unfinished things that her and I need to do
Speaker 2: to heal yah yah h.
Speaker 5: M hm h m hm.
Speaker 2: Hm h I have I have to get off of that.
Speaker 6: So anyway, we may as well go into the dark
Speaker 6: stuff because I think it might be easier to talk
Speaker 6: about it.
Speaker 2: I just I'm not able to deal with that.
Speaker 6: So anyway, she taps into this other aspect to me,
Speaker 6: and this is an altar that's physically living I think
Speaker 6: in Russia, at least that's what these hailers have told me.
Speaker 2: So there's actually a physical.
Speaker 6: Copy of men, possibly physically enhanced, clearly not targeted or
Speaker 6: anything like that, or sick and actually younger and more muscular,
Speaker 6: the same bildle bit, just somebody who has been working
Speaker 6: out and possibly, like I said, possibly physically enhanced for
Speaker 6: these programs. She picked up this very cold individual, this
Speaker 6: version of me, and he's used by Kruger National as
Speaker 6: an assassin. He's used and see Olivia said, the United States,
Speaker 6: Poland and Russia. The handlers have only talked about Poland
Speaker 6: and Russia with me. I don't know what the activities
Speaker 6: are in the United States, but he's a contract killer
Speaker 6: for Kruger National and the Libya was coming up with
Speaker 6: a couple of names. Unfortunately I didn't have I wasn't
Speaker 6: recording at that point. First thirty minutes was lost, but
Speaker 6: she named several divisions of Kruger just kind of rifled
Speaker 6: them off, and I wrote down when I could, but
Speaker 6: we missed most of it and we were lying.
Speaker 5: On the recording.
Speaker 6: Then I realized that I wasn't recording, so I got
Speaker 6: the rest of him in at the first half hour.
Speaker 6: But there was a lot of good information here, so
Speaker 6: I'm just going from memory with that. But the thing
Speaker 6: that I found really disturbing was is that he killed
Speaker 6: mostly women. There was a lot of people that he killed.
Speaker 6: There was also children which was referred to as as others,
Speaker 6: and I guess she was looking at a file there
Speaker 6: was men as well. And the really disturbing part of
Speaker 6: it is is is that was the you know, it
Speaker 6: was the method of killing, which was strangulation, and she
Speaker 6: had gotten from him directly that he chose that particular
Speaker 6: method because it was efficient, easy for him to do.
Speaker 6: I guess more or less the main reason is is
Speaker 6: because there was less of a cleanup, so there's not
Speaker 6: you know, you're not really making a big mess. And
Speaker 6: then she described that there was a cleanup crew that
Speaker 6: would come in. And the way this was done is
Speaker 6: is that this Alto would get a phone call and
Speaker 6: I got some of the I got to the activation codes.
Speaker 6: You're obviously there in English, and I think that's what
Speaker 6: these were for the fog is rolling in, bring the
Speaker 6: rain in the sunshine, So I guess he would get
Speaker 6: these in Russian by a phone call. Then he would
Speaker 6: completely go into his full program mode and a controlled
Speaker 6: state of consciousness, open up a portal, step through it,
Speaker 6: and then step out into a portal wherever the the
Speaker 6: victim was, and then finish the job and then exit
Speaker 6: through the portal and a clean up crew would come in.
Speaker 6: I would assume either physically or through a portal to
Speaker 6: clean it up physically. And you know, I found that
Speaker 6: pretty disturbing and stuff. But I mean, it wasn't a
Speaker 6: surprise because I knew about it. I knew about it,
Speaker 6: and it was an intuitive sensation. And I had been
Speaker 6: dealing with some emotions with it, because not only the
Speaker 6: you know, behaviors when I was younger and stuff and
Speaker 6: everything like that. That's all been pretty much resolved. But
Speaker 6: I just felt this and there was periods where I
Speaker 6: would break down and I would become emotional over it.
Speaker 6: And this is before we had the session So what
Speaker 6: I figured out was is that the handlers that I
Speaker 6: had obviously knew that we were going to do this.
Speaker 6: They make use of everything. So whether you're doing something
Speaker 6: they want you to do, or you're not doing something
Speaker 6: you want you to do, they're going to try to
Speaker 6: use whatever it is, you know, for their purposes. And
Speaker 6: what I believe is this was a way of kind
Speaker 6: of like telling me about myself, because after this session,
Speaker 6: more and more came through, and I remember really clearly
Speaker 6: Matthews saying to me, like as soon as this came
Speaker 6: out in the session, he asked me, do you wake
Speaker 6: up with like marks on yourself, like scratches and things?
Speaker 6: And I'm like, now, I've never had that. You know,
Speaker 6: even when I was a child, there was inductions. I
Speaker 6: never had any obvious marks on me that I remembered.
Speaker 6: There was something like a scar I thought I had
Speaker 6: on my shoulder. People said it was a dimple, and
Speaker 6: early on when I went to public, I assume that
Speaker 6: that may have been a mark, but I like a
Speaker 6: scoop mark or a scar or something, but I could
Speaker 6: never find anything what people were talking about. It was
Speaker 6: on my back afterwards so faded or if it was
Speaker 6: there in the first place, but I never had any
Speaker 6: of his marks, so, you know, leading up to this.
Speaker 6: Just about a week ago, I woke up and my
Speaker 6: hand was sore. My left hand was sore, and I
Speaker 6: went out my day and it got much much worse.
Speaker 6: And then it just developed into a full blown sprain.
Speaker 6: I mean, a pretty bad sprain. I didn't have any injuries.
Speaker 6: I didn't I didn't sleep on it wrong. I didn't
Speaker 6: wake up with my hand bent back underneath my body
Speaker 6: or anything like that that would cause this, And even
Speaker 6: if I did, it wouldn't have caused this. I also
Speaker 6: noticed too that my right arm was strained, and I
Speaker 6: was I was opening the door let the dog out,
Speaker 6: and right in the inside bringing inside. My elbow was
Speaker 6: really sore, and I could tell that I had injured
Speaker 6: my arm. And my hand is obviously spring and I still,
Speaker 6: even now it's been over a week, I can't grab
Speaker 6: something without pain. I still have a lot of pain
Speaker 6: in my hand. It isn't really severe at this point,
Speaker 6: but it's it's a real sprain. So this just wasn't,
Speaker 6: you know, some kind of fluke. And so a few
Speaker 6: days went by and I kept questioning this, questioning this
Speaker 6: and you know, they would they would say something to
Speaker 6: me like, if you want to know how that happened,
Speaker 6: go with it. And I don't like listening to them
Speaker 6: because they play mind games and they've done that with
Speaker 6: me for a very long time, but lately.
Speaker 2: It's been a little bit different. Lately.
Speaker 6: They they would me to see some things and learn
Speaker 6: about myself. So what they said is we want you
Speaker 6: to meet your other your other parts, the other aspects
Speaker 6: of yourself that we were using. So in other words,
Speaker 6: meet some of your alters. And it started out with
Speaker 6: the one you know who was the sex worker in
Speaker 6: the session, but what happened next was really really bizarre.
Speaker 6: And uh so I have this injury. It's a couple
Speaker 6: of days and I have to take my dog to
Speaker 6: the vet and he had to get the second round
Speaker 6: of shots Irish setter. He's like got less than three
Speaker 6: months old. So my wife was there and I just
Speaker 6: let her take care of the whole appointment. I just
Speaker 6: sat there and I was thinking about different things that
Speaker 6: were happening in my life and thought about an argument
Speaker 6: that I have with some money. And while I was
Speaker 6: sitting there and I was just thinking about this argument,
Speaker 6: and all of a sudden I was someplace else. I
Speaker 6: wasn't in I wasn't sitting in the veterinarian's office anymore.
Speaker 6: And it took me a wall to really process this
Speaker 6: and figure it out. I thought that I had some
Speaker 6: kind of like post traumatic stress disorder, like flashback or something,
Speaker 6: or I was just having this violent fantasy, which I
Speaker 6: don't like to have, and I tried to not think
Speaker 6: of these things.
Speaker 1: And I have to do that.
Speaker 6: I have to police my mind because they'll put stuff
Speaker 6: in there, and so I'm always on guard like that.
Speaker 6: But suddenly I wasn't even in the room anymore. And
Speaker 6: I didn't even realize that I was someplace else right away,
Speaker 6: because it was like I lost sense of who I was.
Speaker 6: I didn't really remember myself for a few seconds. Suddenly
Speaker 6: I was in a room I don't know, I feel
Speaker 6: like an apartment, and I didn't see my surroundings. It
Speaker 6: was just looking down at this person.
Speaker 2: And there was a man.
Speaker 1: He looked like he was.
Speaker 6: He looked like Armenian. Maybe he had that kind of
Speaker 6: a Caucasian white skin with that little bit of an
Speaker 6: olive tinge to it. He wasn't like a pure Caucasian person.
Speaker 6: You know, he had like a little bit of a
Speaker 6: you know, some color, some natural color into his skin.
Speaker 6: And he had black hair. It was maybe two inches
Speaker 6: in the back. It wasn't real short, but it wasn't
Speaker 6: real long, kind of moderate length short hair. And he
Speaker 6: had his shirt off, and I was standing over top
Speaker 6: of him, and I had the top of his head
Speaker 6: with my left hand, and I had his chin. What
Speaker 6: the other said was like this, and I was literally
Speaker 6: breaking his neck. I was literally separating his skull from
Speaker 6: the top you know, vertebrates on his neck and snapping it.
Speaker 6: And I felt this incredible rush of adrenaline and this
Speaker 6: intense rage. And then before the neck separated from his head,
Speaker 6: I popped out of it, and I was back in
Speaker 6: the room, and I realized that, you know, like I said,
Speaker 6: I didn't slip. I didn't feel myself slip into this.
Speaker 6: But when I came out of it, I realized that
Speaker 6: I hadn't heard anything that this woman who'd said, because
Speaker 6: that you know, the veterinarian had been talking for at
Speaker 6: least five or ten minutes, and I must have missed
Speaker 6: ten or fifteen seconds of it. But it was all
Speaker 6: of a sudden. It was because when I had this experience.
Speaker 6: It was totally quiet. There wasn't there wasn't any noise
Speaker 6: at all. It was just it was all emotion and
Speaker 6: visuals and there wasn't no I wasn't in the veterinarian anymore.
Speaker 6: I was some I was literally there, and it was
Speaker 6: very it was real, but there was a kind of
Speaker 6: a subreal level to it where it wasn't completely I
Speaker 6: wasn't completely there. I would say maybe eighty percent there.
Speaker 6: I wasn't fully aware of my surroundings. I was just
Speaker 6: focused on that moment and what it felt like. And
Speaker 6: then I was back and I realized that I had
Speaker 6: missed some of the conversation in the room and the
Speaker 6: woe was talking loudly.
Speaker 1: So there.
Speaker 6: I mean, I've never had that before. I mean, I've
Speaker 6: had people talking and I'm zoned out a little bit
Speaker 6: and hear what they said, but I was aware of
Speaker 6: them talking. This I never and this was complete silence.
Speaker 6: I went into it from a loud room to total
Speaker 6: silence and this experience, and when I popped back into myself,
Speaker 6: I sort of flinched because it was a startling experience
Speaker 6: and I didn't say anything. And the other thing was
Speaker 6: that was odd about it. Normally, something like that would
Speaker 6: stir up a lot of emotions in me, and I
Speaker 6: felt nothing other than just that memory of the rage
Speaker 6: and the adrenaline I had. But there was no association
Speaker 6: of pity, empathy, any of those things. There was nothing.
Speaker 6: And it was just pure programming, is what it was.
Speaker 6: And it took me a few days to think about it,
Speaker 6: and I had to pick through it, and I had
Speaker 6: to look at the way that the way the person looked,
Speaker 6: and I had to analyze all of all of the
Speaker 6: fine details of this in order to kind of do that.
Speaker 6: And as I was doing that, these handlers are coming
Speaker 6: through and like kind of just encouraging me to do
Speaker 6: this as well as giving me tibets of information.
Speaker 2: So earlier today, before this.
Speaker 6: I was sitting around and uh, Matt called me on
Speaker 6: the phone because he was concerned about you know, this
Speaker 6: his first podcast and and so on and so forth,
Speaker 6: and he just he just wanted to get like a
Speaker 6: little bit more you know, like a pep talk just
Speaker 6: where he went in and asked a few questions about
Speaker 6: how the zoom was going to work and stuff, and
Speaker 6: I started telling him about it, and and you know,
Speaker 6: at that point, I had already gotten information this was
Speaker 6: a Russian mafia hit. Kruger National had been contracted by
Speaker 6: the Russian government to take out somebody into.
Speaker 2: Mafia, and that's what they used me for. And uh,
Speaker 2: that's what I that's what I remember doing.
Speaker 6: And yeah, it it's been difficult to deal with this
Speaker 6: because at the same see, there's what they do is
Speaker 6: is that they will show you doing horrific things and
Speaker 6: they will try to make it feel good. They will
Speaker 6: try to disassociate you from your core being who you
Speaker 6: really are. And you know, because I'm not what they've
Speaker 6: made me into in these altars, they claim there's aspects
Speaker 6: of this in me because of what I was before
Speaker 6: they captured me, which was an enemy of theirs, and
Speaker 6: I believe that I believe that there was then you know,
Speaker 6: I have some kind of military background on the opposite
Speaker 6: side of this against these negative groups and you know,
Speaker 6: they have occupation over this earth. But at the same time,
Speaker 6: it's you know, I'm like searching for myself in there.
Speaker 6: It's like where's my empathy at?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 6: And what I'm realizing is is they're they're literally just
Speaker 6: breaking me apart, programming me completely and having me do
Speaker 6: whatever the hell they want me to do. And you know,
Speaker 6: I have to process all of this, but I have
Speaker 6: to prevent them from taking, you know, the good that's
Speaker 6: inside me and doing anything to contaminate this version of me.
Speaker 6: So it's it's and that's one of the things that
Speaker 6: they've tried to do throughout my life. They tried to
Speaker 6: make me negative. They tried to bring out these these
Speaker 6: behaviors and traits of these alters just to see what
Speaker 6: they do or just to change me for their benefit.
Speaker 6: Because the more negative you are, the easier you are
Speaker 6: to control. The more angry you are, the easier to manipulate,
Speaker 6: and it just you know, that's the game right there.
Speaker 6: And so for me, this has been a struggle, but
Speaker 6: learning this has been very beneficial. And I just wanted
Speaker 6: to thank Olivia for jumping into action. She didn't have to,
Speaker 6: she didn't have to answer my text, she didn't have
Speaker 6: to offer this. But I thank you, Olivia, you know
Speaker 6: so much, because there's a lot has come out of this.
Speaker 6: And it also eventually this this sort of led to
Speaker 6: me being you know, kind of working out an agreement
Speaker 6: where I'm not being targeted anymore, which is an im
Speaker 6: mental help to me because they weren't going to let
Speaker 6: me live, and I just kind of had to come
Speaker 6: to kind of an agreement to save my own self
Speaker 6: because if and what they want is obedience, and you know,
Speaker 6: they're not ever going to get that for me, but
Speaker 6: they're going to get some cooperation for a little bit.
Speaker 6: And it was just a kind of an emergency measure
Speaker 6: to save myself because they've destroyed my life and a
Speaker 6: lot of the people in this community have gotten a
Speaker 6: chance to live and not be targeted that much. But me, literally,
Speaker 6: I'm lucky to be alive, and I'm lucky to at
Speaker 6: least have a roof over my head and some assemblance
Speaker 6: of normalcy. But it's not normal at all under the surface.
Speaker 6: It's completely chaotic. And I'd reached a point in my
Speaker 6: life where something big had to change and I couldn't
Speaker 6: continue to go the same direction I was going. So,
Speaker 6: you know, this was an important This was an important event,
Speaker 6: and it was a crossroads in my life. Unfortunately I
Speaker 6: have to deal with all this other stuff. But you know,
Speaker 6: because when when you realize you're in this and you're like, well,
Speaker 6: what would I like to remember, it's like, oh, I
Speaker 6: like to remember Mars, maybe a pyramid or something something unusual,
Speaker 6: something fun, something fascinating, And now it's it's you know,
Speaker 6: you're you're literally a Russian asset killing somebody, or you
Speaker 6: know you're a private military contractor asked killing somebody for
Speaker 6: the Russian government. That isn't what I wanted to see
Speaker 6: or learn about myself, but that's it answers a lot
Speaker 6: of questions. And I know there's a lot more than that.
Speaker 6: So this just scratches. This just scratches the surface. And uh,
Speaker 6: I don't know, it's pretty much it. I mean, there's
Speaker 6: there's more that I could talk about, but I think
Speaker 6: pretty much everybody has already said something like that. So
Speaker 6: if you have any questions, Rob or anybody else, or
Speaker 6: for Olivia, if you want to jump in and add anything, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Think you did a good job.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We've been going since like oh my way I
Speaker 1: went out. I was gonna say, we've been going since
Speaker 1: like a little bit after seven o'clock. Well, we had
Speaker 1: technical difficulties at first. I didn't think we were going
Speaker 1: to go this long. I got to go to the
Speaker 1: store before it closes, and it closes at eleven. It's
Speaker 1: ten here now. So I wanted to give you guys
Speaker 1: time to like for everybody to tell where they can
Speaker 1: find you and everything. But you know, yeah, like everybody,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I think everybody, like everybody did
Speaker 1: a great job at presenting between Matthew and Olivia and
Speaker 1: then Michael had a very great, great, great you know,
Speaker 1: telling of his his what he's been going through, and
Speaker 1: then you Nate, so like, yeah, let's just wrap it
Speaker 1: up and uh and let's do a part two to
Speaker 1: this if you guys want.
Speaker 3: To, you know, yeah, that'd be great.
Speaker 5: Thank you, it'd be great.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 6: So it was good.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having us on. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was amazing. I think the fans really liked
Speaker 1: it too.
Speaker 2: You know, so, you know, good good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't know. You can find me on
Speaker 5: Facebook under Matthew Bustos or under Beyond the Veil of
Speaker 5: Spirit at Gmail.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. And Michael, do you want to tell every
Speaker 1: where they can find you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on Facebook. I'm on the gating Michael Cameron
Speaker 3: with a K and it's got two ends at the
Speaker 3: at the end of it. And my you know, email
Speaker 3: address is Michael Cameron Lower Kis twenty twenty three at
Speaker 3: gmail dot com. If anyone wants to reach out, especially
Speaker 3: if you have any knowledge about any of those projects
Speaker 3: as well, or if you want to know anything more
Speaker 3: about this shadow beer, you can do so. And obviously,
Speaker 3: you know, thank you for having me on your show
Speaker 3: and for everyone that came to listen. And you know, Matthew,
Speaker 3: don't You've done an excellent job presenting. And I think, Nathan,
Speaker 3: you know what I think, are you and you know,
Speaker 3: stay strong my friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Olivia of course, thank you for you know, helping me
Speaker 3: and rediscovering my memories. So you know, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, Yeah, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: Lilia definitely, Yeah, Olivia, I just want to say, it
Speaker 1: seems like like like what you learned from Misha you're
Speaker 1: turning now into helping out all these other people. Is
Speaker 1: that kind of what happened real quick? Is that like
Speaker 1: from what you ask Misha, you're just like you're just
Speaker 1: like transmuting that or like you're taking what you earned
Speaker 1: and like, you know what I mean, And I think
Speaker 1: it's amazing, by the way, that's awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I just you know, I know I kind
Speaker 4: of travel into the darker realms. But for me, I'm
Speaker 4: taking this risk to help the world, and I'm okay
Speaker 4: with taking the risk. I don't nobody has to see
Speaker 4: me as a good person or a bad person or
Speaker 4: whatever just because of the things I do. But I'm
Speaker 4: risking this for everybody to make sure you all get
Speaker 4: the information that you need about what's going on in
Speaker 4: the world. And I made a commitment to know my
Speaker 4: father who passed, and he told me to do this,
Speaker 4: and I'm going to stay true to that mission.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Ill said, Yeah. Does anybody else want to
Speaker 1: tell whether they can find them or anything like that,
Speaker 1: or any links to books.
Speaker 4: Or I'm on Facebook, Olivia James and my book Gray
Speaker 4: Mouse Sex Space in my controls on Amazon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm gonna put links for everything. It's just
Speaker 1: because I had when we did the link on stream Yard,
Speaker 1: I had everything listed and then we switched to Zoom,
Speaker 1: so I Zoom doesn't let you put the links in.
Speaker 1: So guys, it's not me being unprofessional, like when you
Speaker 1: go live from I just wanted I don't want everybody
Speaker 1: to notice like it if they watch it's like I'll
Speaker 1: have the links in it. Right after. But yeah, when
Speaker 1: you do a live from zoom, they won't let you
Speaker 1: put stuff in the description, so it's weird. But uh,
Speaker 1: and Nate, do you want to tell everybody where they
Speaker 1: can find you?
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you can. You can find me at Nathan Sizzik.
Speaker 2: That's c I s z is in Zebra e K
Speaker 2: and an at h and there is.
Speaker 6: Nathan and you can find me there on Facebook, Telegram,
Speaker 6: Planetary Consciousness Project Jay in contact e on YouTube, and
Speaker 6: there's a bit shoot channel which I don't put much on.
Speaker 6: And back to the apparently somebody uploaded some videos for
Speaker 6: me there. I believe it was the FEDS, but you
Speaker 6: know that's either here or there. But I also have
Speaker 6: a Rumble channel and those two are I think there
Speaker 6: are voices of a Ryan, but I haven't done much
Speaker 6: with so. And I've still got a lot of updating
Speaker 6: into my YouTube channel as well. There's so much content
Speaker 6: that I haven't put up there. A lot of it's
Speaker 6: on your channel run and so yeah, I'm a I'm
Speaker 6: a bit behind, but that's how you can reach me there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Nate's also a moderator for my telegraph.
Speaker 2: That's right too.
Speaker 1: I forgot and like I mean, you know, we're both grown.
Speaker 1: Our group's pretty uh fast, so it's pretty cool. But well,
Speaker 1: thank you all for to this. This was amazing, and
Speaker 1: thank you everybody for tuning in the night. And until
Speaker 1: next time, everyone and I'll see it. We'll see you
Speaker 1: next time and have a good night, everybody. Car guys,