Speaker 1: This is Dan Caples, and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 1: American way, require the arrest and prosecution of James Comy,
Speaker 1: former FBI director, will be talking about that shortly. He
Speaker 1: posted today on Instagram what I believe is clearly a
Speaker 1: call for the assassination of Donald Trump. He posted an
Speaker 1: Instagram post and it says a cool shell formation on
Speaker 1: my beach walk and the shells spell out very clearly
Speaker 1: eight six four seven obviously eighty six the numerical for
Speaker 1: kill and four to seven a reference to President Trump.
Speaker 1: So what should be done legally to James Comy? And
Speaker 1: you know, as I go to our special guest, what's
Speaker 1: so extraordinarily dangerous about this? And Comy knows this is
Speaker 1: that you've obviously had these two very serious assassination attempts already,
Speaker 1: and you have all of these unhinged haters out there,
Speaker 1: and to have the former FBI director appear to greenlight
Speaker 1: the assassination of Donald Trump, Comey's a smart man. He
Speaker 1: understands the effect of the former FBI director appearing to
Speaker 1: call for the assassination of the sitting president.
Speaker 2: He gets that.
Speaker 1: Now he believes, I'm sure that he has legal protection
Speaker 1: here that he can simply say, oh, political speech, I
Speaker 1: never meant it in a violent way, and that's going
Speaker 1: to be his legal play.
Speaker 2: So we'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 1: We have our regularly scheduled segment with one of the
Speaker 1: great heroes of the pro life movement, doctor Catherine Wheeler.
Speaker 2: And what's so cool about this segment.
Speaker 1: If you haven't been part of it before, is you
Speaker 1: know we're not debating the usual critical issues when it
Speaker 1: comes to ideology, policy, law on abortion. We're getting to
Speaker 1: the medical because doctor Wheeler is a doctor, and doctor
Speaker 1: Wheeler used to perform abortions, so doctor Wheeler knows of
Speaker 1: what she speaks medically. Now she's using her skills to
Speaker 1: save babies and mothers from the fallout from abortion.
Speaker 2: Doctor.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Dan Kapla Show. Hello, doctor, how
Speaker 1: you doing today?
Speaker 3: I'm great, Thank you. It's a great day in Colorado.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, it is beautiful, isn't it?
Speaker 1: And I love these segments right because we get into
Speaker 1: the medical aspects of this that don't get talked about enough. Now,
Speaker 1: in this week's segment, we're going to zero in on
Speaker 1: abortion complications because part of the pitch we hear all
Speaker 1: the time from this killing machine, this abortion industry, is ah,
Speaker 1: this is so quote safe, yeah for whom so doctor,
Speaker 1: please take it and run, thank.
Speaker 3: You so much. So I was actually with some medical
Speaker 3: students up in Denver this week and it gave a
Speaker 3: presentation and what they were they actually were not told
Speaker 3: any details about what actually happens in an abortion. So
Speaker 3: these are medical students, these for our future doctors. There
Speaker 3: was no mention of any complications. So apparently it's assumed
Speaker 3: that abortion is safe. So I found that fascinating. What
Speaker 3: I'd like to start with is actually drug induced abortion,
Speaker 3: which is the mythipristone mis aprostyl, also called medication abortion,
Speaker 3: And I want to start with that because in Colorado,
Speaker 3: over seventy percent of abortions that we have statistics on
Speaker 3: our estimates on are done with these drugs.
Speaker 2: Now, what's that number again, it's.
Speaker 3: Over seventy percent, seventy three percent, and across the country
Speaker 3: it's over sixty percent. So this is now the most
Speaker 3: common way that abortions are done, and of course with
Speaker 3: COVID there was a great liberalization. So when this was
Speaker 3: first approved in two thousands, there were a lot of
Speaker 3: safety regulations that had to be done, but those have
Speaker 3: been gradually decreased, and so now what happened with COVID
Speaker 3: is there's actually no doctor visit, there's no direct contact needed.
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty three it became available by mail order,
Speaker 3: which you can get it from somebody from out of
Speaker 3: the country or out of the state. In Colorado has
Speaker 3: special protections for abortionists who do this. So it's something
Speaker 3: that most people think, because they've been promoting it's safer
Speaker 3: than Thailand all, which is not true. We can get
Speaker 3: into that another day. That women are taking it liberally
Speaker 3: and they're taking it without knowing how far along they are.
Speaker 3: We know that complications go up very rapidly as the
Speaker 3: pregnancy goes on. We know that people are having rupture
Speaker 3: decktopic pregnancies because they're not seeing a doctor and making
Speaker 3: sure they're pregnancies within the uterine cabin We know women
Speaker 3: are getting severe infections and dying, and that women are hemorrhaging.
Speaker 3: Hemorrhage is actually the number one complication. So I should
Speaker 3: say that there's no good data. We don't collect good
Speaker 3: data in the United States, so we have to go
Speaker 3: to other countries that have universal health coverage so we
Speaker 3: can actually follow the patients and that then have registry
Speaker 3: so we can match patients with complications. And this has
Speaker 3: been done in Finland with over forty two thousand women
Speaker 3: and what they found is that twenty percent of women
Speaker 3: had a complication and sixteen percent of them it was
Speaker 3: a hemorrhage. Somewhere around five percent needed a surgical procedure
Speaker 3: to complete the abortion, and other studies has been as
Speaker 3: high as eight percent and one percent of women they
Speaker 3: had an ongoing pregnancy, so we know that they're not
Speaker 3: as safe as what's being told. But this report came
Speaker 3: out about two weeks ago and not from the medical journals,
Speaker 3: but it's based on insurance claim data in the United States,
Speaker 3: and so they can within forty five days of insurance
Speaker 3: paying for the drugs, they can watch and see if
Speaker 3: complications are being paid for. And the study was fascinating.
Speaker 3: The FDA says there's zero point five percent of women
Speaker 3: will have a complication that's serious, but this study actually
Speaker 3: found eleven percent.
Speaker 4: Wow, well that's a huge.
Speaker 2: Difference in the serious complication.
Speaker 1: And you know, the insurance companies can have their data right, right,
Speaker 1: because their money is at stake. And so eleven percent,
Speaker 1: eleven out of one hundred women are having serious complications correct.
Speaker 3: And that does not include deaths because obviously insurance is
Speaker 3: not paying for death is complication, right, and we know
Speaker 3: those are not being well reported. So we don't know
Speaker 3: how many women in the US are dying from this. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So I think what's important about that is, you know,
Speaker 3: the FDA really needs to go back re look at
Speaker 3: their safety data. When you look at what actually the
Speaker 3: FDA study showed, they actually showed much higher complication rates,
Speaker 3: but for some reason on the label they put twenty
Speaker 3: five percent. Oh political right, get reevaluated. I know you wonder,
Speaker 3: don't you.
Speaker 1: I think we know, But doctor, I know the data
Speaker 1: is not good because the left doesn't want it to
Speaker 1: be good in my opinion, But what is your best
Speaker 1: guess on the number of abortions eachier in Colorado?
Speaker 3: So in Colorado, and I recall we had about thirty
Speaker 3: five hundreds last year. That's on the top of my head.
Speaker 3: I can look that up for you next turn.
Speaker 2: Well, that's fine, and.
Speaker 1: I did not give you a headswack on that, and
Speaker 1: I know the data isn't that precise anyway. And we've
Speaker 1: talked before. We did an entire segment on late term abortion.
Speaker 1: What's your best current guests on how many late term
Speaker 1: abortions eachier in Colorado?
Speaker 3: Support was about five hundred. Well, so yeah, that's you know,
Speaker 3: at least one a day. Yeah, it's and I think,
Speaker 3: you know, the hard thing for me is women are
Speaker 3: being told, you know, it's a drug induced abortions, it's
Speaker 3: totally safe, you can do it at home, and they're
Speaker 3: literally being abandoned by the medical profession. They're allowed to
Speaker 3: get it with no contact with a medical profession. There's
Speaker 3: nobody to call. If they have complications. They're often told
Speaker 3: if you go to the emergency department, don't tell them
Speaker 3: you took the abortion drugs, it looks like a miscarriage.
Speaker 3: Just tell them you're having a miscarriage, which, of course,
Speaker 3: use the data. And also it's more risky if they're
Speaker 3: having complications from these drugs and with a miscarriage. So
Speaker 3: if they're saying I had a miscarriage, the doctor may
Speaker 3: not think they need a DNC. If they told them
Speaker 3: they took the abortion drugs, they probably better get a DNC.
Speaker 3: Can you explain to folks is well, I'm sorry, thank you.
Speaker 3: A DNC is a dilationing cur a top. So it
Speaker 3: means that in an operating room, you dilate the woman's
Speaker 3: cervix the opening of her uterus, and you use such
Speaker 3: an instrument to remove tissue that's in there, which could
Speaker 3: be the baby, it could be just there's clocental tissue
Speaker 3: left in the ugine cavity, which again happens somewhere around
Speaker 3: five to eight percent of the time according to the
Speaker 3: study in Finland.
Speaker 1: Well, doctor, I love these segments, and I hope we
Speaker 1: keep doing them every week. What I'd like to do
Speaker 1: soon maybe as soon as our next segment I'm in
Speaker 1: trial next week, but maybe the week after that is
Speaker 1: I'd like to go back and repeat our segment.
Speaker 2: I think we made it two segments.
Speaker 1: Where we cover just the medical reality of prenatal development and.
Speaker 2: How we know for.
Speaker 1: Certain from a scientific standpoint that this is a living
Speaker 1: human that's being killed in all of these abortions, but
Speaker 1: from the medical standpoint, So why don't we go back
Speaker 1: and repeat you know that segment the next time we
Speaker 1: get together. Had a lot of great feedback on that,
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that people just didn't know or
Speaker 1: had forgotten.
Speaker 3: That's great, I would love that. That's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Good. Well, look forward to that and have yourself a
Speaker 2: great weekend.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Daniel.
Speaker 2: Thank you. That is doctor Katherin Wheeler. She is phenomenal.
Speaker 1: And imagine that the courage choose to perform abortions, and
Speaker 1: the courage it takes to say, wait a second, note
Speaker 1: that this is not right. And not only that, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to now speak up for innocent life.
Speaker 2: I mean that to me is kind of ultimate courage.
Speaker 1: Three all three someone three eight two five five. And
Speaker 1: when we come back textda in five seven, seven, three nine,
Speaker 1: we're going to continue to talk about what I consider
Speaker 1: to be, from what the information we have publicly, one
Speaker 1: of the most grave miscarriages of justice we've seen in
Speaker 1: Colorado with this precious young woman, Caitlin Weaver killed by
Speaker 1: a reckless driver and then the eure EPODA just gives probation.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's going on there? Did it have anything
Speaker 1: to do with the illegal immigrant status of the driver
Speaker 1: who killed this woman, and then James Comy clearly, in
Speaker 1: my opinion.
Speaker 2: Calling for the assassination of Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: What should happen to him? What do you expect will
Speaker 1: happen to him within the legal system? You're on the
Speaker 1: Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5: And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast all.
Speaker 1: Of the worst senses of that word. Afternoon on this show,
Speaker 1: when it comes to justice in America, we're talking about
Speaker 1: what appears to be my constitutionally protected opinion, one of
Speaker 1: the worst miscarriages of justice we've seen here in Colorado.
Speaker 1: Sean Boyd did a great story on CBS four about it,
Speaker 1: and will air that story again during the show. But
Speaker 1: the bottom line, as I understand it, is, this beautiful,
Speaker 1: innocent young woman, Caitlin Weaver, is killed. She is killed
Speaker 1: by a fifteen year old here illegally driving ninety miles
Speaker 1: an hour in a residential area forty five mile zone,
Speaker 1: obviously no license, no insurance, etc. And the new a
Speaker 1: Repo County DA Democrat Amy padd in her office probation,
Speaker 1: not a single day in juvenile detention. And then, as
Speaker 1: you'll hear in the story that the father of this
Speaker 1: completely innocent young woman Caitlin Weaver says no apology, not
Speaker 1: even an apology, and so we're digging deeper into that.
Speaker 1: And at the same time we're talking about and here's
Speaker 1: the latest from FBI Director Kash Patel. We are aware
Speaker 1: of the recent social media post by former FBI Director
Speaker 1: James Comy directed at President Trump. We are in communication
Speaker 1: with the Secret Service and director current primary jurisdiction is
Speaker 1: with the Secret Service on these matters, and we will
Speaker 1: provide all necessary support. Here's from Christine Nome a bit
Speaker 1: more direct. Secretary Nome disgraced former FBI director James Comy
Speaker 1: just called for the assassination of the President of the
Speaker 1: United States. DHS and Secret Services investigating this threat.
Speaker 2: And will respond appropriately. No gray area in that.
Speaker 1: What Komy did was he posted on Instagram cool shell
Speaker 1: formation on my walk on the beach today, and then
Speaker 1: he posted shells that he clearly organized. There's somebody at
Speaker 1: his direction clearly organized to read eight six four seven
Speaker 1: numeric for kill Donald Trump eight six four seven.
Speaker 2: And now Comy said, oh.
Speaker 1: I had no idea that anyone would interpret that violently.
Speaker 1: I oppose all violence. So you can see his play
Speaker 1: right call for the assassination of Trump and try to
Speaker 1: trigger some of those mentally unstable people out there who
Speaker 1: might be planning it leaning toward Oh my goodness, the
Speaker 1: former FBI director says, killed Donald Trump. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the kind of active green lighting. I think he knows
Speaker 1: he's engaged.
Speaker 6: Keep in mind the recent historical context. There have been
Speaker 6: two credible assassination attempts against Donald Trump.
Speaker 5: Including one where he was actually shot.
Speaker 6: So for James Comy to post the following dan this
Speaker 6: follow up, he says, quote, I posted earlier a picture
Speaker 6: of some shells I saw today on a beach walk,
Speaker 6: which I assumed were a political message. I didn't realize
Speaker 6: some folks associate those numbers with violence. It never occurred
Speaker 6: to me, but I opposed violence of any kind, so
Speaker 6: I took the post down. But this goes to like
Speaker 6: the media, you know, front page New York Times, total
Speaker 6: fake news about Trump retraction page seventeen ten days later,
Speaker 6: fine print.
Speaker 5: Nobody reads that.
Speaker 6: So for Comy to pretend like putting eighty six forty
Speaker 6: seven out against a guy who was almost killed in Butler, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 6: he's not that snub.
Speaker 2: No, he knows nobody's going to believe that statement right.
Speaker 2: But his play, I believe from.
Speaker 1: The beginning was was green light an assassin. That's my
Speaker 1: constitutionally protected opinion. I think he was actively trying to
Speaker 1: green light an assassin, their un mentally unstable assassins while
Speaker 1: protecting himself legally. And I think he probably did it here.
Speaker 1: I think he probably protected himself legally because political speech
Speaker 1: is the most highly protected form of speech. So from
Speaker 1: the beginning, whenever he hatched this plot in his mind,
Speaker 1: from the beginning, the plan was to remain legally bulletproof
Speaker 1: by claiming, oh no, he just meant defeat Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Politically killed Donald Trump's political agenda, and he will probably
Speaker 1: get away with it for that reason.
Speaker 2: So, but just think.
Speaker 1: About how evil, how evil a person must turn to
Speaker 1: sit there and hatch a plot like this. And he knows,
Speaker 1: I mean, as Ryan alluded to everybody, I can see it.
Speaker 1: He knows there've already been these two attempts. And when
Speaker 1: a former FBI director sends a signal, a direct command
Speaker 1: eighty six Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he knows what he's doing. There can be no
Speaker 2: doubt in my mind.
Speaker 1: But he's welcome to come on to and see if
Speaker 1: he can defend the indefensible three H three someone three
Speaker 1: A two five five the number text d an five
Speaker 1: seven seven three nine.
Speaker 2: But it's so interesting, isn't Orion.
Speaker 1: It's it's what I predicted a long, long time ago
Speaker 1: year and a half, two years ago, that Joe Biden
Speaker 1: wouldn't make it to election day, that Donald Trump would win,
Speaker 1: that Democrats in the meantime would would be exposed as
Speaker 1: what they really are, not your typical Democrat, but the
Speaker 1: powers in the party. And we're seeing that happen on
Speaker 1: multiple levels. So how much does Trump have to be
Speaker 1: succeeding right now for the former FBI director to openly
Speaker 1: call for the killing of Donald Trump?
Speaker 2: Right? I mean, why is that happening right now?
Speaker 1: It's happening right now because Trump is succeeding at historic levels.
Speaker 1: And here's what's happening. People like Comy, I believe, can
Speaker 1: see it that in all of this, by the way,
Speaker 1: is my opinion, right, I mean, I don't have access
Speaker 1: to James Comy's email, I don't have subpoena power.
Speaker 2: I can't get them under oath.
Speaker 1: I'm just interpreting these facts the way I think any sane, logical,
Speaker 1: fair minded person would, but.
Speaker 2: The left can see it right.
Speaker 1: Not only is Trump succeeding, he is exposing the left
Speaker 1: in such a way that threatens to undermine the Left
Speaker 1: for decades to come in numerous different ways. And that's
Speaker 1: why they were losing their minds over all this dose stuff,
Speaker 1: because finally, with Elon Musk and his team, you had
Speaker 1: people with the ESI skills, the electronically stored information, the
Speaker 1: electronically stored evidence skills to be able to get in
Speaker 1: identify patterns and electronically stored information start exposing Democrats for
Speaker 1: their corruption. And now with the success Trump's habit, and
Speaker 1: can you imagine if he reshapes the Middle East and
Speaker 1: turns it into a positive, all you need is his
Speaker 1: successor to win a couple of terms, somebody of like
Speaker 1: mind with the same policies, whether it's JD. Vans, Marco Rubio, whatever,
Speaker 1: Left's going to get buried for decades to come, not
Speaker 1: only on the court but in current the minds of voters,
Speaker 1: et cetera. Because the conservative stuff works when it's done
Speaker 1: right and courageously, and this leftist stuff it fails every time.
Speaker 1: So I think that's what drove James Comy to call
Speaker 1: for the killing of Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Call me should be prosecuted.
Speaker 5: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1: I half expect to wake up and it's three point
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, which is when I normally get
Speaker 1: up to do my trial prep, and all this craziness
Speaker 1: today would have been a bad dream.
Speaker 2: But it is real.
Speaker 1: And we're talking about two big breaking stories, one out
Speaker 1: of Repo County, John Fabricatory here to speak with us
Speaker 1: about that, and then the other James Comy, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: and quite clearly Christy Noman's coming right out and said it,
Speaker 1: calling for the assassination of Donald Trump. And we're talking
Speaker 1: about where that will now go legally. John, Welcome back
Speaker 1: to the Dan Capel Show. Hey, are you with the
Speaker 1: administration now? I know that we're all hoping. Man, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of talk about it.
Speaker 7: You're putting me on the line here.
Speaker 2: On your show.
Speaker 7: I'll announce it on your show since you brought it up.
Speaker 7: So yes, yes, I am. I am in DC right now.
Speaker 7: I was offered a position with the administration.
Speaker 2: Fantastic.
Speaker 7: I'm going to be sworn in on Monday and I
Speaker 7: will be a senior advisor over at Health and Human
Speaker 7: Services with Robert F. Kennedy. But I will be advising
Speaker 7: on the Office of Refugee Resettlement so that we can
Speaker 7: go and find these three hundred thousand kids that have
Speaker 7: been missing since the Biden administration lost them.
Speaker 1: Fantastic and what a horrific crime that is. But I'm
Speaker 1: so glad you're in the administration. We need more like you.
Speaker 1: And let me start with this lead question for those
Speaker 1: who haven't heard the tremendous piece done on CBS four
Speaker 1: by Sean Boyd. The quick version is precious, beautiful, innocent
Speaker 1: young lady Caitlin Weaver killed by a fifteen year old
Speaker 1: here illegally, unlicensed, uninsured, going ninety in a forty five
Speaker 1: in Arepo County. The new Arepo County DA Amy Patten
Speaker 1: her office says probation not a single day in juvie detention.
Speaker 1: So that's the starting point, John, your reaction today.
Speaker 7: Yeah, this was on purpose by the eighteenth District Dan.
Speaker 7: They know that him being an illegal alien and not
Speaker 7: US ICE, well not US, but Ice not having juvenile
Speaker 7: detention that can keep him in detention for any long,
Speaker 7: determinate amount of time if they can't deport him. That
Speaker 7: he would have to be released to the streets. So
Speaker 7: I kind of relies on the state and locals to
Speaker 7: do the right thing and keep these juveniles in custody
Speaker 7: until they are an adult so that they can be deported.
Speaker 7: They chose not to do this. The eighteenth District, Amy
Speaker 7: pit Patten decided that they were just going to give
Speaker 7: this this trouvenile, you know, probation and tell him he's
Speaker 7: got to go to school. Uh and you know, you know,
Speaker 7: be part of the community in which he just took
Speaker 7: a you know, an innocent life. And and it's it's wrong. Look,
Speaker 7: this is this is the left playing games. This is
Speaker 7: this is the left, you know, bumping back against Donald
Speaker 7: Trump and what he wants to do with immigration enforcement.
Speaker 7: And it's it's terrific and it's wrong.
Speaker 1: Now, the DA's office, if I heard their statement, right,
Speaker 1: I heard it through Sewan Boyd's reports, seemed to be
Speaker 1: saying Amy Patten didn't even know anything about this.
Speaker 2: Does that ring true to you?
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't believe.
Speaker 7: So there's they had then they had to know that
Speaker 7: this was going to be a media case. Say, they
Speaker 7: had to know, and uh, you know, you would think
Speaker 7: and if she didn't know that, then shame on.
Speaker 3: The office for not filling her in, right, right.
Speaker 7: Right, No, well you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm with you on that, Johnet.
Speaker 1: And to me, it is so heart breaking and just
Speaker 1: so outrageous, right because what's the most precious thing on
Speaker 1: to every single parent, it's their children. So when your
Speaker 1: child is killed in vacuo homicide, which is how I
Speaker 1: view this, I don't know how they charged it, but
Speaker 1: ninety and a forty five in a residential area, my lord,
Speaker 1: you know, when your child is killed and the DA
Speaker 1: says your child's life is not even worth a single
Speaker 1: day in juvenile detention for the perpetrator, I mean that
Speaker 1: that is like spinning in the face of the victim.
Speaker 7: It absolutely is. And there's even more to this story
Speaker 7: when you really look at it. So now all of
Speaker 7: a sudden, his family is going to try to seek asylum.
Speaker 7: They've been here for a number of years and never
Speaker 7: decided to come forward and seek asylum to have a
Speaker 7: credible fear hearing. And now all of a sudden they're.
Speaker 3: Going to try to seek asylum so they can keep him.
Speaker 7: Here in the United States. They never tried it before.
Speaker 7: They were more than willing to stay here illegally and
Speaker 7: in the shadows until they committed a horrific crime. And
Speaker 7: now and now they're going to try to claim asylum.
Speaker 4: It's just crap.
Speaker 2: Do you think they'll be granted asylum?
Speaker 7: I don't believe so under this administration. But you know,
Speaker 7: you know, if there's a good attorney who's on this case,
Speaker 7: they will drag this through the courts for potentially for years,
Speaker 7: for years we're going to have to deal with this,
Speaker 7: you know, when as soon as he becomes an adult,
Speaker 7: ICE can pick him up because that we have the
Speaker 7: adult adult detention facilities, they can put him in a facility,
Speaker 7: they can have a faster trial because he'll be in custody.
Speaker 7: But for these next few years while he's a juvenile,
Speaker 7: because we just don't have the bandwidth with the juvenile
Speaker 7: detention facilities, ICE cannot We will not take him into
Speaker 7: custody as a juvenile. And you know, so basically he
Speaker 7: gets to be free until he's eighteen.
Speaker 1: Well, could ICE take his parents if they are here?
Speaker 1: I legally, I don't know whether they are or not,
Speaker 1: But could they take his parents into custody if they're here?
Speaker 7: I legally, absolutely absolutely, Dan, So I actually said that
Speaker 7: on next today.
Speaker 4: I put that up.
Speaker 7: I said, if I were ICE, I would arrest the mother,
Speaker 7: put her in removal proceedings, find her removable, and then
Speaker 7: remove her juvenile children with her.
Speaker 2: But the mother now applying for asylum.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well you know apparently, yeah, yeah, you know, but
Speaker 7: if they take her into custody, then she'll have a
Speaker 7: faster asylum hearing than leaving her on the street, which
Speaker 7: could be you know, an asylum hearing w won't come
Speaker 7: up on the non detained docket for you know years.
Speaker 1: Well, John, I am so glad you're with the administration now,
Speaker 1: and will you still be able.
Speaker 2: To come on with us.
Speaker 3: I'll have to see what my poss think about that.
Speaker 7: I'll definitely feel them out on how they feel about
Speaker 7: me doing media. But yeah, yeah, we will see if
Speaker 7: I can, Dan, I definitely will.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: I sure hope you can. Man appreciate you being here today.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Dan, Thank you you take care of that is.
Speaker 1: John Fabricatory used to be used to be a senior
Speaker 1: with ICE, used to be the field off director for Denver,
Speaker 1: if I remember right, so knows of what he speaks.
Speaker 2: George Brockler will join us on this as well.
Speaker 1: At five point forty five, I have not had the
Speaker 1: opportunity to speak with my law partner. John Kellner, who
Speaker 1: was the REPODA until January when his term expired, is
Speaker 1: now my friend. Well he's always been my friend, but
Speaker 1: my law partner, and he's managing director of our firm.
Speaker 1: Managing partner of our firm.
Speaker 2: We're both in.
Speaker 1: Trial prep on separate cases that are about to go
Speaker 1: to trial, so we haven't had a chance to talk
Speaker 1: about this today.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to get his take.
Speaker 6: Only George is going to join us. But Kellner himself
Speaker 6: dan this. The charges originally were going to be on
Speaker 6: his watch. He handed it over to Amy Padden and
Speaker 6: she lit them on fire. Basically, I mean, this is
Speaker 6: just disgraceful.
Speaker 2: Well, I can't wait for Amy Padden to join us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, because if there are some facts and I
Speaker 1: literally cannot even imagine what they would.
Speaker 2: Be that could justify what that office has just done.
Speaker 1: But if there are some if there's some big public misconceptions,
Speaker 1: she can clear it up right here.
Speaker 2: But did I hear the on board story?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: And we'll play it right out of this next break.
Speaker 1: Her office is claiming she didn't know anything about this.
Speaker 6: Yes, it was handled by another prosecutor within the office.
Speaker 1: But I think they said, and we'll listen to the
Speaker 1: story together. See if I heard it right. They're saying
Speaker 1: she didn't even know about this case.
Speaker 6: That's what her deputy district attorney said.
Speaker 2: Yes, how many people do you think will believe that?
Speaker 6: It's like if she didn't know, she should have known.
Speaker 6: And that's maybe even more of an indictment. She doesn't
Speaker 6: know what her office is doing on her behalf. She's
Speaker 6: the leader of that office.
Speaker 1: Dan, Well, listen, a case like this innocent young lady
Speaker 1: killed ninety in a forty five and you're not going
Speaker 1: to have even a single day in juvenile detention. If
Speaker 1: you've got a DA's office where the DA isn't going
Speaker 1: to hear about that case, you got bigger problems, right.
Speaker 1: But to me, listen, My last up before we pop
Speaker 1: this break is I've been saying this for decades on.
Speaker 2: Air, and you know it's true.
Speaker 1: These DA's offices they are a sacred trust. They're different
Speaker 1: than any other elected office. They are truly a sacred
Speaker 1: trust because a DA can ruin you and your family
Speaker 1: with one word, one false allegation.
Speaker 2: And so I've seen a.
Speaker 1: Lot of Democrat das who did not let political ideology
Speaker 1: influence them. I've seen a lot of Republican das who
Speaker 1: did not let political ideology influence them. But we see
Speaker 1: more and more Democrat das who do. And that is,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, such a perversion of justice and fairness,
Speaker 1: and it is so so wrong to the victims.
Speaker 2: But it undermines.
Speaker 1: Society because if people lose confidence in the justice system,
Speaker 1: if they believe there's a two tiered system of justice.
Speaker 2: And in this upside down.
Speaker 1: World the left has created in Colorado where the state
Speaker 1: legislature and in some DA's offices, people here illegally who
Speaker 1: commit other crimes, including vehicular homicide like that I seventy
Speaker 1: case man or the two eighty five case I'm referencing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where people here illegally you commit other crimes are now
Speaker 1: the favored party. They're now protected by some Democrat das
Speaker 1: and certainly by the Democratic legislature. And the innocent victims,
Speaker 1: innocent citizens who are victims of those criminals are viewed
Speaker 1: as the second class citizens. It's a world upside down,
Speaker 1: But that is what the left has wrought in Colorado.
Speaker 2: You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1: Glad you're here on this pretty afternoon. The Jamal Murray
Speaker 1: of DA's kind enough to join us. George Brockler, he's
Speaker 1: playing sick today as Jamal Murray will tonight, which is
Speaker 1: why George. If Jamal plays sick tonight, I think he's
Speaker 1: going to light it up, right. I mean we saw
Speaker 1: that with Jordan in the Flu game. It's just something
Speaker 1: kind of psychological, right, there are no expectations and you
Speaker 1: can just let it fly. And I think that's what
Speaker 1: we'll see from Jamal. And I know that's what we'll
Speaker 1: see from you right now, because that's what you always do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, boil from your lips to God's ears.
Speaker 1: Now, what is this that you have here? Should this
Speaker 1: be like Ferris Bueller? Should we all be lighting candles?
Speaker 4: Or no? I don't know. It hit me a couple
Speaker 4: of days ago. I don't feel bad. I mean I
Speaker 4: still work out and stuff, but it sounds like I
Speaker 4: am harboring something akin to the Andromeda strain. I just
Speaker 4: don't know when it goes away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that's so interesting because I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people now, same thing, but they feel fine
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, and I'm sure.
Speaker 2: You look good, except we can't see you right now.
Speaker 1: But hey, I want to talk to you about something that,
Speaker 1: from everything publicly reported right now, seems to me to
Speaker 1: be one of the most outrageous miscarriages of justice I've
Speaker 1: ever seen in this state. Sean Boyd, is you know
Speaker 1: reporting on Channel four that Amy Padden's office that the
Speaker 1: DA in the eighteenth had this fifteen year old here
Speaker 1: illegally driving illegally who was going ninety and a forty
Speaker 1: five in a residential kills this innocent young woman, Caitlin Weaver,
Speaker 1: and then gets probation, gets it not even a day
Speaker 1: in juvie detention.
Speaker 2: What do you make of that?
Speaker 4: Listen? If Dan, it's weird because I'm not normally a
Speaker 4: guy that wants to comment on the dispositions in cases
Speaker 4: and other jurisdictions, because I don't know those facts and
Speaker 4: I don't know how they came to their conclusions. However,
Speaker 4: this one's different because there's a guy named John Kilner,
Speaker 4: who you happen to know pretty well, who was DA
Speaker 4: when this thing came in the front door, and according
Speaker 4: to the victims. Their approach under John was, Yeah, this
Speaker 4: kid is going to be incarcerated, he's going to be detained,
Speaker 4: and we're going to go get justice for miss Weaver.
Speaker 4: And then it looks like the only thing that changes,
Speaker 4: no new facts, no nothing, just a new DA from
Speaker 4: a different party with a different perspective of our criminal
Speaker 4: justice steps in and decides, no, we think this kid
Speaker 4: out to be able to walk out and enjoy the
Speaker 4: rest of his life. That makes it an incredibly unique
Speaker 4: and troublesome because it looks more and more like politics
Speaker 4: is weighing in on some of these prosecution decisions.
Speaker 1: And to me, that's one of the most dangerous things
Speaker 1: for society, right, And you and I have talked about this.
Speaker 1: I've always viewed this office as a sacred trust because you,
Speaker 1: guys and gals, you can ruin somebody with a word, right,
Speaker 1: and it's got to be treated as something above politics.
Speaker 1: And I know plenty of them das who treated as
Speaker 1: a sacred trust, plenty of Republican das who do. But
Speaker 1: I see more and more dem das who just view
Speaker 1: it as an extension of politics, and political ideology enters
Speaker 1: into it, and at that point society just loses faith.
Speaker 4: I think that's the big concern, Dan, because if folks
Speaker 4: out there stop trusting that they can get justice from
Speaker 4: our courts, then they're going to go try to get
Speaker 4: justice on their own. And we don't want that anywhere
Speaker 4: in society. We don't want vigil anism. In fact, you
Speaker 4: know your reference to Comy is right on point. It's like,
Speaker 4: if you can't beat the guy at the system and
Speaker 4: at the ballot box, well let's start making veiled threats.
Speaker 4: It's just not the direction we want America to go.
Speaker 2: And let's talk about Kmy for a second. Dina gets
Speaker 2: your take on that.
Speaker 1: If folks are new to this story at this point,
Speaker 1: Christy Nomas come out and just said it. James Comy
Speaker 1: has called for the assassination of Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Call me.
Speaker 1: Posted today on social media a picture of seashells organized
Speaker 1: as eight six four seven, so eighty six kill forty
Speaker 1: seven Donald Trump?
Speaker 2: Do you think there should be an interest in prosecution here?
Speaker 4: Hard to know more without more investigation. I want him
Speaker 4: to have an opportunity to sit down and talk with
Speaker 4: people that were probably hired when he was the FBI
Speaker 4: director and just answer some questions about this because at
Speaker 4: best for him, it's a veiled threat. At worse, for him,
Speaker 4: it's an intentional message to God knows who. And I
Speaker 4: don't know that about Jim Colemy. I don't know him.
Speaker 4: I just know what I've seen from him, and this
Speaker 4: seems so reckless and so dangerous a thing for him
Speaker 4: to put out there, given the rhetoric of the time
Speaker 4: and two assassination attempts on this president. It just I
Speaker 4: hope he was drunk when he did it. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's just it's crazy.
Speaker 1: And George, we only have about forty five seconds. But
Speaker 1: would it require a grand jury here to get his
Speaker 1: electronically stored information, you know, his emails, his text is
Speaker 1: other electronically stored information to at least get to the
Speaker 1: bottom of this.
Speaker 4: No, Fed's could have seek a search warm like we could. Okay,
Speaker 4: Feds can only indict with a grand jury, and because
Speaker 4: they had super search powers, that's the direction that they
Speaker 4: would go, probably to get into his phone.
Speaker 1: Okay, So they don't even need the grand jury to
Speaker 1: do it. They can just issue the warrant, go in,
Speaker 1: get into everything.
Speaker 2: I assume that he had this.
Speaker 4: Plan search warrant signed by Judge Right, probably right now.
Speaker 1: But they wouldn't need the grand jury vehicle at this point.
Speaker 1: They would just need the search warrant and then they
Speaker 1: could make.
Speaker 2: The call from there.
Speaker 4: That's how I see it, you know, Okay.
Speaker 2: Do you think we'll see that?
Speaker 4: I think if they're going to pursue anything more than
Speaker 4: a face to face meeting, which he'd be a fool
Speaker 4: to turn down, I think they should probably jem up
Speaker 4: the grand jury and see what superpowers they can stretch
Speaker 4: out into something.
Speaker 2: I think you have to.
Speaker 1: I think you have to get to the bottom of this, because,
Speaker 1: first of all, I think that's exactly what he did,
Speaker 1: was to try to encourage or green light somebody, but George.
Speaker 1: One of the many reasons I really wish I knew
Speaker 1: this new pope because I think he's awesome, so I
Speaker 1: could ask him to pray for George Brockler.
Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us, my friend. Do you take care?
Speaker 1: Thank you ran great job as always, Kelly, you as well,
Speaker 1: go Nuggets to catch you tomorrow.