1 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: And Hi, Welcome to the Big Podcast. Happy Thursday to you. 2 00:00:29,679 --> 00:00:35,159 Today's the twenty ninth day of Take me a second, 3 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,520 twenty ninth day of January, Year of Our Lord, twenty 4 00:00:38,679 --> 00:00:42,920 twenty six. My name is Tom Sullivan. And while we 5 00:00:43,039 --> 00:00:46,439 have a lot to go over, I was hoping to 6 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,920 wind down on Minnesota. It looks like I hope we're 7 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,200 going to be able to. Tom Holman had a news 8 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:59,119 conference earlier this morning, and I have some news about 9 00:00:59,159 --> 00:01:03,799 the economy. We have some updates about whether or not 10 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,439 the government's going to shut down tomorrow night or not. 11 00:01:07,519 --> 00:01:11,680 But I do want to start and then I've got 12 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:19,640 a personal sad moment that about Tesla, and we'll unveil 13 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:20,040 all of that. 14 00:01:20,159 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: Elon Musk has an announcement that we'll play for you. Meantime. 15 00:01:26,159 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: Let's start with with Alex Pretty, who is the man 16 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:36,799 who was shot and killed by federal officers in Minneapolis 17 00:01:36,879 --> 00:01:41,079 last Saturday. By now, everybody knows about the story. But 18 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:46,879 last yesterday evening, a new videotape was released and it 19 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:52,079 went back eleven days before mister Pretty was shot and killed. 20 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,439 And one of the things that we did see in 21 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,359 the first video was that he was out in the 22 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,400 middle of the state and he was waving at cars 23 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,120 through to get through, but he was staying far back 24 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,919 from where the agents were apparently operating to do some 25 00:02:10,039 --> 00:02:14,159 sort of pickup of some illegal so he wasn't close by. 26 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:15,199 Speaker 2: But he ran up. 27 00:02:15,319 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: After he waved a couple of cars through, he ran 28 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,439 up the middle of the street to where the agents 29 00:02:21,479 --> 00:02:25,479 were and they were going after two women. One of 30 00:02:25,479 --> 00:02:29,879 the women they knocked down, and that's when mister Preddy 31 00:02:30,199 --> 00:02:33,639 got involved and tried to help the woman, and then 32 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,639 they got on him, and then he fought them, and 33 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,120 the rest of the story has said, but we know 34 00:02:39,199 --> 00:02:45,439 what happened. He was killed eleven days before. There's a 35 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,039 video of him. By the way, let me stop there, 36 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,120 because what we have learned about about Alex Pretty is 37 00:02:52,159 --> 00:02:57,120 that he was an ICU nurse, worked for at the 38 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,439 VA hospital. He worked with veterans, He did all these 39 00:03:00,759 --> 00:03:07,000 nursed all these wonderful things, and so he was portrayed 40 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,520 us and everybody that knew him came out and said, 41 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:15,039 what a wonderful man. It was very calm, he was quiet, 42 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,520 he wasn't violent, he wasn't any of that. And then 43 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,319 all of a sudden last night, we get this tape 44 00:03:21,039 --> 00:03:24,120 of him from eleven days before. It was at a 45 00:03:24,159 --> 00:03:28,520 location a couple of miles away from where he eventually 46 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,719 was killed this last Saturday, so a couple of miles away, 47 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:40,439 different situation, and he is having some confrontation with federal 48 00:03:40,479 --> 00:03:43,599 agents Ice Border patrol I don't know, but they were 49 00:03:43,639 --> 00:03:47,560 federal agents and he's They're getting in their car and 50 00:03:47,599 --> 00:03:51,960 he spits at them. They closed the door, they start 51 00:03:52,039 --> 00:03:55,319 to pull away, and he's ticking the side of their 52 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,280 car and running again, kicking it again, kicking the tail 53 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,879 light off of the automobile, doing physical damage. I mean 54 00:04:03,919 --> 00:04:08,599 with the way the cost of getting car body repair 55 00:04:08,719 --> 00:04:11,400 where probably one hundred dollars worth of damage, maybe more. 56 00:04:12,479 --> 00:04:15,000 And so that did it. They stopped, they got out, 57 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,639 they went and they grabbed him, and that's where the 58 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,720 tape ended. But what I've got a couple of reactions 59 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:28,480 to that. First of all, he obviously is a man 60 00:04:28,519 --> 00:04:32,959 that is not necessarily nonviolent. That was a very violent 61 00:04:33,079 --> 00:04:36,480 thing to do. Have you ever gone up and started 62 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,079 kicking at cars somebody's car while they're in the car 63 00:04:40,439 --> 00:04:44,240 and then doing damage to it, I would expect they 64 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,240 would stop and get out and you would have a confrontation. 65 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:52,079 But I mean, this was a guy who obviously has 66 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,199 another side to him other than the calm, cool, wonderful, 67 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:02,920 icy unurse. He had a violent streak to him. I mean, 68 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,959 it's I've seen people well, I mean, I know this 69 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,439 is ridiculous, but it's true. I spent most of a 70 00:05:10,519 --> 00:05:15,800 day with OJ Simpson number of years ago. He was 71 00:05:15,959 --> 00:05:21,759 very nice, he was polite, He's a nice man. He 72 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:26,439 also happened to murder his ex wife and a waiter. 73 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,879 So I mean, you can have somebody that's perfectly nice 74 00:05:31,439 --> 00:05:34,759 and calm, maybe ninety percent of the time. But boy, 75 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,199 something got this guy going and he was active about 76 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,160 this whole thing about ice. He wasn't sitting around in 77 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:50,399 his home. He was out trying to violently protest against 78 00:05:50,439 --> 00:05:56,639 these guys. So that changes the story somewhat. Now, there's 79 00:05:56,639 --> 00:05:58,879 a lot of people that view today came out and 80 00:05:58,879 --> 00:06:03,000 said no relationship to the fact that they murdered him 81 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,000 eleven days later. Yes, it does. It says that the guy. 82 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,480 When I was in law enforcement, there were always not always, 83 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:17,079 but there was a lot of people who wanted to 84 00:06:17,199 --> 00:06:21,480 be involved. They wanted to they didn't like cops or 85 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,199 they wanted to support the police, but they were in 86 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,279 your way. They got in your way. They were playing cop. 87 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,319 This guy was playing I don't know, do Gooder or whatever. 88 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,360 Obviously there was another side to Alex pretty that showed 89 00:06:37,439 --> 00:06:41,439 up in this second second videotape, and so did it 90 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,839 relate because it was two miles away and eleven days later. 91 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,120 A lot of people are going, no, it had no relationship. 92 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,800 Yes it did. It showed that the guy had a 93 00:06:51,879 --> 00:06:56,160 violent streak in him. I think it makes a big difference. 94 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:03,319 So that's changing the tone of Alex PRATDIY. The fact 95 00:07:03,399 --> 00:07:06,680 he was spitting at these agents and then kick the 96 00:07:06,759 --> 00:07:12,920 tail light off certainly showed violence, and I will criticize 97 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,839 him for that. I will also criticize the agents. This 98 00:07:16,879 --> 00:07:19,120 is where I go. They didn't seem like they were 99 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:24,079 well trained. If you're gonna stop, get out and go 100 00:07:24,519 --> 00:07:29,879 grab the person who is damaging your vehicle, these are 101 00:07:30,079 --> 00:07:35,199 law enforcement officers. They knocked him down, they wrestled with him. 102 00:07:35,399 --> 00:07:37,920 The video stopped. I don't know whatever happened, but they 103 00:07:37,959 --> 00:07:41,800 did not arrest him. And I'm telling you, if you're 104 00:07:41,839 --> 00:07:44,519 a police officer and you're gonna put your hands on somebody, 105 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,879 it's only to arrest them. You don't put your hands 106 00:07:47,879 --> 00:07:53,439 on citizens unless you are going to take them into custody. 107 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,800 And so they did not. And if they had taken 108 00:07:56,839 --> 00:08:01,040 him into custody, maybe he would have not been standing 109 00:08:01,079 --> 00:08:03,720 out there in the middle of the road this past Saturday. 110 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,720 So he was wrong. The agents, I think were wrong. 111 00:08:08,759 --> 00:08:12,279 They should have arrested him. Both of them handled the 112 00:08:12,399 --> 00:08:18,319 situation I think poorly. But the big news today is 113 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:24,319 really from Tom Holman. Holman's in town in Minneapolis. He 114 00:08:26,079 --> 00:08:28,519 let me play just a couple. I edited it down 115 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,160 for time, but let me just play a couple of 116 00:08:31,199 --> 00:08:35,840 the clips from Tom Holman's news conference earlier this morning. 117 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 3: President in the United States call me Monday morning and 118 00:08:38,639 --> 00:08:42,759 asked me to deploy here. Got here on Monday evening 119 00:08:44,039 --> 00:08:49,360 and I'm staying. So the problem's gone. But we've made 120 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,480 a lot of progress, a lot of progress last week. 121 00:08:53,519 --> 00:08:57,200 The bottom line is, you can't fix problems if you 122 00:08:57,279 --> 00:09:02,519 don't have discussions. I didn't come to Minnesota for photo 123 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,559 ops or headlines. You haven't seen me. I came here 124 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,159 to seek solutions, and that's what we're going to do. 125 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,879 One thing we did agree on. Though everybody had talked 126 00:09:12,879 --> 00:09:18,399 to agreed on, it's a community safety's paramount. One thing 127 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,759 we all agreed on was US Immigration customers force them 128 00:09:22,799 --> 00:09:26,120 as a legitimate law enforce agency that has a duty 129 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,039 to enforce the laws and act in my Congress, I 130 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,320 keep this community safe. To be clear, we did not 131 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:36,519 agree with Minnesota state and local officials that they would 132 00:09:36,519 --> 00:09:38,960 be involved in immigration enforcement. I didn't ask them to 133 00:09:38,919 --> 00:09:42,200 beam of grace officers. I'm asking them the cops. Working 134 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,200 with the cops, I hope to stake criminal aliens up 135 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:52,240 the street. What we did agree upon is not to 136 00:09:52,279 --> 00:09:55,279 release public stafety rest back in the community and they 137 00:09:55,279 --> 00:09:56,840 could be lawfully transferred ized. 138 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:03,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting point because Mayor Fry keeps repeating over 139 00:10:03,919 --> 00:10:07,240 and over again he wants ICE out of Minneapolis because 140 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,080 he wants to keep the people in Minneapolis safe. Well, 141 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,879 what about these criminals that are wanted, that have committed 142 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,000 crimes that are in Minneapolis. I guess he's okay with 143 00:10:20,159 --> 00:10:24,559 keeping them there. So it looks like Holman made some progress. 144 00:10:24,639 --> 00:10:25,600 Let me continue. 145 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,519 Speaker 3: I had a very good meeting with Attorney General Attorney 146 00:10:29,519 --> 00:10:35,960 General Helison, and he has clarify for me at county 147 00:10:36,039 --> 00:10:41,120 jails may notify ICE other release dates of criminal public 148 00:10:41,159 --> 00:10:46,720 safety ristks so ICE can take cussion upon the release 149 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:47,480 in the jail. 150 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: That is a big breakthrough. 151 00:10:50,639 --> 00:10:57,159 Speaker 1: They are now going to notify ICE about people that 152 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,919 are in their jails that are here illegally and are 153 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,559 about to be released. That is a huge change on 154 00:11:04,639 --> 00:11:06,360 the part of Minnesota officials. 155 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,919 Speaker 3: Homan continues, rhetoric and dangerous threats and hate must stop, 156 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,799 and we all agreed to that. All everybody met to 157 00:11:14,799 --> 00:11:17,080 tay we can't. We got to stop the record. I 158 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:21,679 begged for the last two months on TV for the 159 00:11:21,759 --> 00:11:25,240 rhetoric to stop. I said in March that the rhetoric 160 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,440 doesn't stop, but it's going to be bloodshed, and there has. 161 00:11:32,159 --> 00:11:38,720 I wish I wasn't right. I don't want see anybody die. 162 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,200 Gun officers, not members of the community, and not the 163 00:11:45,279 --> 00:11:46,559 targets of our operations. 164 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:52,279 Speaker 1: So it was good for Tom Holman to change up people, UH, 165 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:57,000 to send Greg Bovino back to the border. That's where 166 00:11:57,039 --> 00:12:00,320 he does his best work. I think he he was 167 00:12:00,399 --> 00:12:03,480 the reason why the border is sealed. So he's very 168 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,320 good at that. He just not very good at what 169 00:12:07,639 --> 00:12:12,919 was happening in Minneapolis, and so Holman even said they're 170 00:12:12,919 --> 00:12:17,840 going to do their operations by the book, and he's 171 00:12:17,919 --> 00:12:21,960 the kind of kind of leader that will require that 172 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,919 the officers under him will do their operations by the book. 173 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:33,039 They will wind down the number of immigration officers, ICE officers, 174 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:39,720 Border patrol officers in Minneapolis as they get proof of 175 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,159 the fact that the jails are going to notify ICE 176 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,440 to come to the jails and in the calm and 177 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:51,039 quiet of a jail transfer the prisoners over to federal custody. 178 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:56,720 There won't be any ruckus, no riots, no protesters. It 179 00:12:56,759 --> 00:12:59,399 will just be done by the book. It's the way 180 00:12:59,399 --> 00:13:02,000 it's been done for a long time up until in 181 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:09,240 recent times. So Steve Moore, former FBI supervisor, was asked 182 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,759 what he thought about Homan's comments today. 183 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,799 Speaker 4: Well, I was kind of led to believe that we 184 00:13:16,919 --> 00:13:23,240 were doing targeted operations exclusively, so apparently they had gotten 185 00:13:23,279 --> 00:13:26,120 away from that. I think that was one of my 186 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,240 big takeaways. 187 00:13:28,279 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: The other one was the. 188 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 4: Was the decision they say to avoid ICE agents becoming 189 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:42,879 involved with agitators, and again I don't think that was 190 00:13:43,039 --> 00:13:48,639 ever their intent, but it was allowed to happen, and 191 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,919 I think that's a large part of why we are 192 00:13:52,039 --> 00:13:53,799 where we are now. 193 00:13:53,879 --> 00:13:55,919 Speaker 1: He was referring to what Holman was talking about the 194 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,960 fact that the targeted operations. I forget the exact word, 195 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,000 but he basically indicated we got away from that. In 196 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,720 other words, they were not doing just targeted operations, and 197 00:14:08,039 --> 00:14:09,120 they're going to go back to that. 198 00:14:09,879 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 4: You know, it's hard to say by what he means 199 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:18,360 by that, but you know, in the targeted enforcement and 200 00:14:19,279 --> 00:14:22,360 with Sarah or I believe one of your other people 201 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,039 on the last segment said they used to do this 202 00:14:25,679 --> 00:14:26,879 at like three in the morning. 203 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,799 Speaker 2: Get up. Yeah, and as you saw, you didn't see 204 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:30,879 the sun out when you did that. 205 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:36,759 Speaker 4: In all of my years on FBI SWAT, I don't 206 00:14:36,879 --> 00:14:40,080 think of a planned operation that started while the sun 207 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,960 was out. And the reason is, you want to get 208 00:14:43,039 --> 00:14:46,039 your job done, you want to have minimum interference, and 209 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,639 you want to go home. You don't want to stay 210 00:14:48,679 --> 00:14:52,639 out there and continue to just be a target. And 211 00:14:53,799 --> 00:14:56,399 I was a little bit confused as to why they 212 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:02,000 were doing targeted operations all day. And you know the 213 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,039 other thing, it's it's sometimes hard to get warrants for 214 00:15:07,759 --> 00:15:09,039 nighttime operations. 215 00:15:09,639 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: So Holman did mention that they were definitely going to 216 00:15:15,519 --> 00:15:19,480 continue their operations, are going to be hold on, let 217 00:15:19,519 --> 00:15:22,000 me reach pat myself on the back. They're going to 218 00:15:22,559 --> 00:15:26,159 wind it down, but they're not going to stop their 219 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:31,639 operations of looking for illegal criminals that are in this country. 220 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,000 And the other part about it was that the people 221 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,720 that are funding a lot of the professional protesters that 222 00:15:39,919 --> 00:15:44,519 are making life difficult for law enforcement to operate in Minneapolis. 223 00:15:44,879 --> 00:15:48,919 He says that they will bring justice to those funding 224 00:15:49,159 --> 00:15:52,639 the violence. He repeated that a couple of times, so 225 00:15:52,759 --> 00:15:55,399 they're finding out who it is it's writing the checks 226 00:15:55,720 --> 00:16:00,240 to get the protesters out there to interfere with with 227 00:16:00,399 --> 00:16:06,480 the federal operations. Although going back again to mister pretty 228 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,960 the fact that I think he was just one of 229 00:16:09,039 --> 00:16:15,480 those overly I excited about everything and wanted to get 230 00:16:15,559 --> 00:16:18,039 in the middle of stopping Ice on his own. I 231 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,720 don't think anybody was funding him. But the big takeaway 232 00:16:21,759 --> 00:16:25,919 for me was that the Attorney General has agreed to 233 00:16:26,159 --> 00:16:32,600 detainer notices. That should change things rapidly. That should give 234 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:39,159 Tom Homan the reason to pull back a lot of 235 00:16:39,279 --> 00:16:42,080 their federal officers that are in Minneapolis. I think it'll 236 00:16:43,039 --> 00:16:48,159 quiet it down overnight. I hope and pray. So with that, 237 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:53,600 we've got the shutdown that's supposed to take place tomorrow night, 238 00:16:53,639 --> 00:16:57,679 Friday night at eleven to fifty nine pm, and the 239 00:16:57,799 --> 00:17:03,919 Democrats are saying that they're not going to In the Senate, 240 00:17:04,279 --> 00:17:09,079 the House has already passed the budget bills. The appropriations 241 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,160 bills are broken down by various government entities. They've done 242 00:17:13,279 --> 00:17:17,359 all but six. There's six more to go. So the 243 00:17:17,759 --> 00:17:21,000 one of the deals being talked about behind the scenes 244 00:17:21,799 --> 00:17:26,799 is passing five of the six, and the one that 245 00:17:27,039 --> 00:17:31,279 involves Department of Homeland Security, they'll do some sort of 246 00:17:31,519 --> 00:17:35,480 continuing resolution. That's kind of the buzz coming out of 247 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,480 out of the Republican Democrat and negotiations in the Senate. 248 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,240 The point that's worth repeating though, is that ICE has 249 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,039 already been funded through twenty twenty nine. 250 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: Now. 251 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security has a lot of different things 252 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,079 like FEMA, and right now with the big storm that 253 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,200 came through the South and the East and another one 254 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,960 coming up this next weekend, FEMA would probably like to 255 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:08,000 be funded and not be shut down. TSA. Those blue 256 00:18:08,039 --> 00:18:10,920 shirts at the airport, they always have to go without pay, 257 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,839 so they may go without pay. Maybe some of them 258 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,599 will call in sick, and you're going to have more 259 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,920 trouble at the airport. But I already been funded. So 260 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,039 the Democrats are trying to make a point, and it's 261 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:29,920 just they're trying to just get more something out of 262 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,279 the Republicans in order for them to sign off on this. 263 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,599 I wish they would just sign off and we move 264 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,119 on with the government operated. But we may get a 265 00:18:39,319 --> 00:18:43,079 partial shutdown. I don't remember having any impact, and I 266 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,119 know number of you probably did. The last time we 267 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,279 had the shutdown. It did not impact me one iota, 268 00:18:49,279 --> 00:18:51,720 and I'm sure I'm not alone. So if they do 269 00:18:51,799 --> 00:18:55,880 a partial shutdown, I doubt that many people are actually 270 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:00,200 going to feel the impact of a government shutdown. But 271 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,480 there are some Democrats that are on their high horse 272 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,200 about Ice and the funding bill. And the thing about 273 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,119 it is is the House has already passed all of 274 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,279 the appropriation's bills. This is totally in the Senate. But 275 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,640 Seth Magazine or he's a Democrat from Rhode Island, he's 276 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,240 on his high horse about Ice. 277 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,839 Speaker 5: I'm not going to vote for another dime of Homeland 278 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,119 Security funding until there are real reforms included in the bill. 279 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,640 Look Republicans have control of the House. They can pass 280 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,119 it whatever they want with Republican votes, and they already have. 281 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,480 That's my feeling again, speaking for myself. I'm not speaking 282 00:19:37,519 --> 00:19:41,039 for our leadership or anyone else. The other funding bills, fine, 283 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,240 already voted for those. We should pass the others. But 284 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,079 we cannot take the administration at its word and take them. 285 00:19:49,279 --> 00:19:52,920 You know, when they say that they're promising to make reforms. 286 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,759 We need it in writing in law, and I'm not 287 00:19:55,759 --> 00:19:57,920 going to vote for any other funding until I see 288 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,039 that language in the bill. 289 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: So he's not being reasonable, Like he said. The House 290 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,240 has already passed it, So what's he talking about. He's 291 00:20:06,319 --> 00:20:10,160 in the House, They've already passed the appropriations bills, so 292 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,839 he somehow wants to make sure that they don't they 293 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,759 do something about reforming a government agency in twenty four hours. 294 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,519 Is this guy on smoking something? I mean, it doesn't 295 00:20:23,519 --> 00:20:26,640 make any sense to me. There's another story floating around 296 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,519 today that doesn't make a lot of sense. It comes 297 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,039 down to the state of Georgia, and it comes down 298 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,759 to the twenty twenty election. And remember that's the state 299 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,960 where Donald Trump called up Brad Rasenberger the Secretary of 300 00:20:43,039 --> 00:20:45,839 State and was looking for I forget the number, but 301 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,920 a few thousand votes that he needed in order to 302 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,880 make it so that he would win Georgia. So Georgia 303 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,960 has been in the crosshairs of the president ever since 304 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,680 because they said, sorry, we have We've looked, and they 305 00:20:58,799 --> 00:21:01,720 went and they did another audit, they did another, they 306 00:21:01,799 --> 00:21:05,839 did three audits. And the state has a Republican governor, 307 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,839 has a Republican secretary of State, and they still could 308 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:13,359 not find a way to give Georgia to Donald Trump 309 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:20,720 in twenty twenty. So obviously the President has dispatched. Maybe 310 00:21:20,839 --> 00:21:23,720 Cash Betel did it on his own, maybe he's just saying, 311 00:21:23,759 --> 00:21:26,279 I know the Boss will like this. But the FBI 312 00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:33,799 showed up at the department that does voter records in 313 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:39,680 Georgia and they took out seven hundred boxes of twenty 314 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,720 twenty ballots. Today, the FBI is doing the search. The 315 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,200 strange part about this story is the D and I 316 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:53,720 that a Director of National Intelligence, Tulsei Gabbard, was on 317 00:21:54,079 --> 00:21:58,920 the scene kind of supervising this whole thing. What's she 318 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,720 doing there? It's got everybody scratching their head, going, do 319 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,839 they have I mean, if it's d and I then 320 00:22:07,599 --> 00:22:10,759 do they have a foreign entity that somehow is involved 321 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:16,519 in fixing the election? In twenty twenty, Elliott William's former 322 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,799 federal prosecutor weighs in. 323 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,079 Speaker 6: It is not part of her job unless there's some 324 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,240 evidence or knowlexpidus, because I don't really quite know what 325 00:22:26,279 --> 00:22:29,200 they're looking for because these issues have been so well 326 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,680 trod over the last six years at this point. Now 327 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,240 is there some national security and access to what they 328 00:22:35,319 --> 00:22:38,319 think they're finding in this election office in Georgia? I 329 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,480 don't know, but certainly this is the kind of thing 330 00:22:41,519 --> 00:22:44,440 that the FBI, if anybody in the federal government wild investigating, 331 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,000 the FBI would have it under control. So why the 332 00:22:47,079 --> 00:22:49,400 Director of National Intelligence is there is a little bit odd. 333 00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 2: So it's a mystery. Why was she there? 334 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: And with all of the investigations that have done about 335 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,799 Georgia in the past, and the court cases and the 336 00:22:58,839 --> 00:23:02,799 civil lawsuits and everything else, Elliott Williams is kind of 337 00:23:02,839 --> 00:23:06,319 scratching his head, going he doesn't know what this is 338 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,839 all about. It's a mystery. 339 00:23:08,599 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 6: I have no idea what's going on. And you know, 340 00:23:10,759 --> 00:23:12,920 forgive me for just giving such an inconclusive answers on 341 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,559 But think about the number of times that various people, 342 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,319 both inside and outside of the executive branch the White House, 343 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,599 have looked at this issue. Multiple lawsuits have been filed 344 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,799 by the President and people around him alleging some sort 345 00:23:28,839 --> 00:23:31,799 of fraud in Fulton County, Georgia, and they were all 346 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:38,400 or overwhelmingly dismissed as not having grounds to succeed. The 347 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,359 president's former Attorney General, William Barr, also looked into this issue, 348 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,680 and he himself found that there was not evidence or 349 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,279 to support allegations of widespread fraud in Fulton County, Georgia. 350 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,519 It's just simply not there. Based on all of the 351 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,799 entities that have looked at this, now, it seems that 352 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,759 there's a little bit of a grievance mission here happening 353 00:23:59,759 --> 00:24:03,880 from President who has been outspoken about his concerns about 354 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,319 the leadership in Fulton County, Georgia, and how that was 355 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,279 one of the entities that prosecuted him. That may be 356 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,720 what's going on here, just a vendetta against these folks 357 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:16,039 in Georgia. But as of right now on January what 358 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,200 is it, twenty ninth, twenty twenty six, there simply has 359 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:24,400 not been evidence of widespread voter irregularities or fraud in 360 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,960 Fulton County, Georgia in the twenty twenty election. It just 361 00:24:27,519 --> 00:24:29,960 isn't or hasn't been demonstrated to be there yet. 362 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, but what are they looking for? Are they going 363 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,359 to demonstrate it now? 364 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't matter which side of the aisle 365 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,319 you're on regarding you think the twenty twenty election was 366 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:44,119 stolen or not. This is just stirs up the whole 367 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,839 mystery part of it one more time, all right. The economy, 368 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,640 we have a couple of things. Came out for a 369 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,400 Thursday morning initial job as claims two hundred and nine thousand. 370 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,400 It's about word where it's been lately, a little bit 371 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:08,160 more than what was estimated. Third quarter productivity exactly what 372 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,200 was expected four point nine percent. Productivity is way up, 373 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,680 which is helping a lot of companies turn in some 374 00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:19,839 pretty nice profits. Our trade deficit, even though we've got 375 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,240 all these tariffs going worldwide, trade deficit went way up 376 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:29,640 to fifty six billion, up from forty two billion. So 377 00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:37,480 trade deficit is not changing because of the tariffs. Roger Ferguson, 378 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,359 former Vice Chair of the FED, was asked if he 379 00:25:41,559 --> 00:25:43,920 was surprised by the fact that the Fed did not 380 00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:48,680 cut interest rates at their meeting, that they announced the 381 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,799 unchanged interest rates yesterday. 382 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's absolutely right. It was no surprise to me, 383 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,759 to be fair, is no surprise to the market. What 384 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,440 I did find interesting was a general upgrade in the 385 00:25:58,599 --> 00:26:01,599 tone of how they see the economy, and then the 386 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,319 ward stabilization at Steve just mentioned being applied to the 387 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,279 labor market after several meetings where that was an area 388 00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:11,319 of great concern, and so probably the market I think 389 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,240 took all this astride. I think initially they're just going 390 00:26:14,319 --> 00:26:16,240 to stamp pat That's the first thing I was trying 391 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,200 to signal. He when I asked the question, he did 392 00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:21,799 suggest that, you know, a great increase was not the 393 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,720 base case, and he also laid out at least his 394 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,319 own personal judgment that if things don't play out and 395 00:26:28,519 --> 00:26:31,279 the labor market continues to weaken, they'd be open to 396 00:26:31,319 --> 00:26:34,240 another cut. So I don't think there's a strong bias 397 00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:36,039 one way or the other. But I don't think they're 398 00:26:36,079 --> 00:26:38,640 ready yet to talk about a pivot to raising rage. 399 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,440 I think it's a stamp pad for a few meetings 400 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,799 for sure, and now will see what happens. 401 00:26:43,759 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: So speaking of the economy, we are also awaiting a 402 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,160 lot of earnings rewards coming out of the techs world today. 403 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:56,240 Apple they just announced moments ago that their sales jumped, 404 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,559 powered by what they called staggering iPhone Man. Their iPhone 405 00:27:01,599 --> 00:27:03,720 that they're out with right now seems to be a 406 00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:07,960 hot number, So good for Apple. Tesla came out with 407 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:14,920 their earnings last night and Elon Musk I started the 408 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,599 podcast by saying, there's a very I'm unhappy. Let me 409 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,480 put it that way. I have told this audience that 410 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:30,319 I am on I believe my fourth Tesla. I leased 411 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,920 them for three years, so four times three. I'm not 412 00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:38,799 quite twelve years, but maybe eleven years into owning Teslas 413 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,799 or leasing Teslas. And the reason I started leasing them, 414 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,960 I wasn't sure if the company was going to be around. 415 00:27:44,039 --> 00:27:48,359 Well they're still around, but on the earnings call last night, 416 00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:54,039 Elon Musk made an announcement that I kind of thought 417 00:27:54,559 --> 00:27:57,880 was going to happen, but it's still I'm very disappointed. 418 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,839 Here's Elon's call from last night, basically saying they are 419 00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:08,440 going to stop making the S model and the X model. 420 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,440 I've had the S ever since day one. Is it's 421 00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:15,440 the top of the line Tesla, it's their luxury model. 422 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 2: I love that car. That's why I'm on my fourth one. 423 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,480 And they're going to stop making them AH. 424 00:28:23,839 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 4: And the X. 425 00:28:24,599 --> 00:28:27,759 Speaker 1: They're going to do both of them and instead listen 426 00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:31,559 to what he wants to do with the factory where 427 00:28:31,599 --> 00:28:34,960 they currently make the Model S and the Model ACT. 428 00:28:35,559 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 8: And then I guess I have like one. I guess 429 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,519 it's not exactly it's it's not exactly bad news, but 430 00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:46,200 it's it's a it's it's it's what. It's time to 431 00:28:46,279 --> 00:28:51,279 basically bring the Model S n X programs to an 432 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,759 end with an honorable discharge because we're really moving into 433 00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:59,680 a future that is based on autonomy and and so 434 00:28:59,799 --> 00:29:01,960 if if you're interested in buying a Model SNX, now 435 00:29:02,039 --> 00:29:04,799 would be the time to order it, because we expect 436 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,000 to wind down SNX production in the next quarter and 437 00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:12,440 uh and and basically self production of Model SNX next quarter. 438 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,480 We will obviously continue to support the Model sn X 439 00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:18,240 programs for as long as people have the vehicles, but 440 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,759 we're going to take the Model SNX production space in 441 00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:26,839 our Freemont factory and convert that into an Optimist factory, 442 00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:31,960 which will with the long term goal of having a 443 00:29:32,079 --> 00:29:35,599 million units a year of Optimists robots in the current 444 00:29:35,759 --> 00:29:37,480 SX space in Fremont. 445 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 3: So that is. 446 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,599 Speaker 8: Slightly sad, but it's but it is it is. It 447 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,079 is time to bring the SX programs to an end 448 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,119 and shift shift. Really, it's part of our overall shift 449 00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:53,480 to an autonomous future. 450 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,119 Speaker 1: I feel like you pulled the rugout from underneath me. 451 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,920 I have never had a better automobile, and they're going 452 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,759 to stop making them. So where am I? Where am 453 00:30:03,759 --> 00:30:06,079 I going to go? Where else can I get a 454 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,880 car that's as good as the Tesla Model S. I 455 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,240 haven't bought some of the smaller models. I know some 456 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,720 of you are you love your smaller Teslas. I prefer 457 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:21,160 the Model S. And the factory is he kept talking 458 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,440 about Freemont. Fremont is a little small city in the 459 00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:27,599 San Francisco Bay areas. That's the first factory for Tesla. 460 00:30:28,279 --> 00:30:35,519 And so they are going to make these these robots there. 461 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,920 Hold on, let me get the announcement out here phasing 462 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:44,359 out Model S and X and they were introduced twenty 463 00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:49,480 twelve in twenty fifteen, respectively. And what they're going to 464 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:55,880 do is focus their efforts on robo taxis and humanoid robots. 465 00:30:56,119 --> 00:31:02,759 They're called the Optimist line of robots, and these are humanoid. 466 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,799 So we're not talking about the kind of robots you 467 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,960 see in the factory. These are the kinds of humanoids 468 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,440 that act and look kind of like we do. And 469 00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:19,640 he wants to make in this factory one million humanoid 470 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,200 robots a year. 471 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:22,559 Speaker 2: Now. 472 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: I know Elon is out there, and I know he 473 00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:31,079 thinks differently than most of us do, but I'm going 474 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,279 do we really are you? Are you in the in 475 00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:36,680 the market for a humanoid robot? 476 00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:38,079 Speaker 2: I'm not. 477 00:31:39,559 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: I what are you going to do with a humanoid robot? 478 00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:46,799 I mean, so, I'm all upset about what's going on 479 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,839 with Tesla, but people are going to bet on Elon 480 00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:55,759 and his and his vision and his genius. 481 00:31:56,559 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: I guess. 482 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:02,319 Speaker 1: The stock was up on the announcement. Meantime, talking about 483 00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:06,480 the stock market, the Dow did not go far, but 484 00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:10,119 it was positive. It finished up fifty five. The Dow 485 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,880 at forty nine thousand and seventy one, SMP five hundred down, 486 00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:21,119 nine NASDAK down one hundred and seventy two. Gold is 487 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:27,519 unbelievable up another one hundred and twenty dollars, new record 488 00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:31,160 high at setting records in leaps and bounds five thousand 489 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,319 and four to twenty five for one ounce of gold, 490 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,000 and the price of oil also climbing up two and 491 00:32:39,079 --> 00:32:42,480 a quarter up to sixty five dollars and some change 492 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,759 for one barrel of oil. So that's it for today. 493 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,519 Thank you for coming by. We will be back again tomorrow, 494 00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:54,519 and I'll be by myself. I won't have my humanoid 495 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,759 robot with me. I hope, however, to see you. We'll 496 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,240 try it again tomorrow. We'll see you. 497 00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:10,559 Speaker 3: The h