Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray.
Speaker 2: I'm Boston Radio.
Speaker 1: Well, of course, one of the big stories that we
Speaker 1: have been dealing with in the last a few weeks
Speaker 1: has been the assassination of the CEO of the healthcare
Speaker 1: company down in New York, Brian Thompson. And let's having
Speaker 1: a conversation last week with a friend and a frequent
Speaker 1: guest in this program, doctor Alfred Miller from Texas. He's
Speaker 1: the person who I can target anything dealing with any
Speaker 1: any questions dealing with lyme disease. He's studied this, He's
Speaker 1: Mayo trained physician. And doctor Miller was suggesting that I
Speaker 1: also contacted doctor uh not doctor Robert Brandsvelt Bransfield, excuse me,
Speaker 1: who is a psychiatrist recognized in the community as being
Speaker 1: in the forefront of treating patients with the neuropsychiatric symptoms
Speaker 1: of tickborn illness. So I'm going to talk to two
Speaker 1: highly qualified individuals. Uh And for those of you who
Speaker 1: remember my friend, doctor Alfred Miller, let me reintroduce doctor
Speaker 1: Alfred Miller to you. First, Doctor Miller, welcome back Tonight's
Speaker 1: that how are you?
Speaker 3: I'm fine, Dan, Thank you so much for inviting me
Speaker 3: to come back tonight. Well, I might say something if
Speaker 3: I can. I'd like to say something about my co
Speaker 3: person to be on your program tonight, Dr Brandsfield. The
Speaker 3: man is brilliant. He deserves the Nobel Prize. He has
Speaker 3: contributed so much to this field. And he's the first
Speaker 3: UH physician that I encountered who advocated the treatment for
Speaker 3: autistic children using antibiotics to clear barillia, to eradicate barillia,
Speaker 3: and these patients have had remarkable success. So he is truly,
Speaker 3: truly remarking, I think he deserves an Obel Prize.
Speaker 1: Well that's high praise. And we're going to get to
Speaker 1: doctor Bransfield in just a moment, but let's talk for
Speaker 1: a moment. You know, lime disease is obviously every year
Speaker 1: more and more prevalent in this country. You know that
Speaker 1: better than anyone. And I believe that there is now
Speaker 1: a diagnosis or a developing diagnosis called lime disease rage
Speaker 1: or lime rage. Explain to us what you mean by that.
Speaker 1: And by the way, this is not in any way
Speaker 1: to excuse the actions of the shooter, the alleged shooter
Speaker 1: in this case, Luigi Manngioni. But let's talk about what
Speaker 1: your suspicions are in this case, and then I want
Speaker 1: to get doctor Brandsfield involved in this as well.
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you. Lime disease rage. They well recognize the
Speaker 3: definitive diagnosis of patients who have a berrillia. And by
Speaker 3: the way, I use the word barrillia instead of line
Speaker 3: because there's forty eight different species of brillia, one of
Speaker 3: which is lying. However, the patients who have this illness
Speaker 3: develop a rage when the organism infects a certain part
Speaker 3: of the brain, and they These people often present as
Speaker 3: boy scouts virtually. I mean, they've had exceptional rearing, they've
Speaker 3: had exceptional accomplishments, and out of the blue, they suddenly
Speaker 3: do something horrible. As an example, not too long ago,
Speaker 3: when Adam Lanza in Connecticut, Newtown, Connecticut shot twenty students
Speaker 3: at an elementary school. He got up in the morning
Speaker 3: and his mother and then he went to shoot these kids.
Speaker 3: And he didn't just shoot him once. He shot him
Speaker 3: multiple times as though he was in a rage. And
Speaker 3: his mother and.
Speaker 1: Also we should mention there were also six teachers who
Speaker 1: who lands A killed that morning.
Speaker 3: Yes, and his mother, while pregnant, had multiple hroses. So
Speaker 3: that's caused by bailli in faction and it was transmitted
Speaker 3: to adam Lanza via the placenta. And also right around
Speaker 3: that time, if you recall, there was a chimpanzee in
Speaker 3: Connecticut who was a member of the family. I mean,
Speaker 3: he was a family pet that he ate his meals
Speaker 3: at the table with the family and he greeted their friends.
Speaker 3: And one day one of his familiar friends walked in
Speaker 3: and he toure off her face. And I looked into
Speaker 3: his history and he had been treated for lime disease.
Speaker 3: So again he had a severe rage reaction. And oftentimes
Speaker 3: if the rage is directed out, these people perpetrate these
Speaker 3: horrible crimes. If it's perpetrated in, they commit suicide. And
Speaker 3: we don't always we're not always blessed with the history
Speaker 3: of documenting this illness, like in the case of man Geomy,
Speaker 3: where everyone knew that he developed a severe lime disease
Speaker 3: associated with brain fog, and then his grades began to fail,
Speaker 3: and then he had this horrible thing when he killed
Speaker 3: the executive. So and if we don't have that kind
Speaker 3: of a history, I've looked at pictures of the perpetrators
Speaker 3: of these other horrible crimes and they show signs of
Speaker 3: lime disease even though it's not documented in their history.
Speaker 3: And the sign they show is Bell's palsy. Bell's policy
Speaker 3: is caused by baillia and it runs its course and
Speaker 3: then the organism remains in the patient and in the
Speaker 3: dormant stage. But if you look at the photographs of
Speaker 3: these perpetrators, you'll see one eye lid low and the
Speaker 3: side of the mouth down, and that's characteristic of Bell's palsy.
Speaker 3: So this is it's very very significant.
Speaker 1: Was the article about Mangonian and lime disease? That was
Speaker 1: a CNN article that you that you're referring to.
Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: Let me get doctor Brince Bransfield in Doctor Bransfield, I
Speaker 1: know that you're very familiar with these cases, and I
Speaker 1: know that you have been an expert witness in these cases.
Speaker 1: And we're not here to do anything to support, at least,
Speaker 1: I'm not to support Luigi Mangioni, who committed a horrific,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, murder. He enjoys the presumption of innocence.
Speaker 1: But comment, if you will, on what doctor Miller has
Speaker 1: just proposed. I know that that you have been a
Speaker 1: expert witness in some very high profile murder cases around
Speaker 1: the country in which you feel lime rage may have
Speaker 1: been a propos a.
Speaker 4: Factor right now.
Speaker 5: Sometimes it's time rage, it's other There's more than one
Speaker 5: form it can take, and I've treated I've done a
Speaker 5: study with patients who committed homicides or who were homicidal.
Speaker 5: One study, I looked at fifty line patients who were
Speaker 5: homicidal and actually forty nine of the fifty were also suicidal.
Speaker 5: So they often go into this rage. And when I've
Speaker 5: seen lime rage, I've seen in my office and it's
Speaker 5: frightening where there's a there's a powder control quality. But
Speaker 5: sometimes it's not just lime rage. There's different forms that
Speaker 5: the aggressiveness can take.
Speaker 4: There's uh, how do.
Speaker 1: You diagnose a lot? You know, do you have to
Speaker 1: know that the patient has had either undiagnosed or diagnosed
Speaker 1: lime disease or untreated lime disease. I know that doctor
Speaker 1: Miller has talked to us a many occasions about the
Speaker 1: intu inatic equisy, inadequacy of some of the line tests
Speaker 1: of the Western Block test, for example, fairly unreliable, and
Speaker 1: that people either do not know they've been bitten and
Speaker 1: they're not treated. How are you able to isolate this
Speaker 1: form of rage.
Speaker 5: Well, you look at the history of it and usually
Speaker 5: what begins. It may begin years before where someone gets
Speaker 5: an infection it's not necessarily adequately recognized or treated, or
Speaker 5: they may just give an inadequate treatment, and then it
Speaker 5: can be relapsing remitting over a period of years. And
Speaker 5: then the average person I see is nine years post infection,
Speaker 5: some more, some less. The psychiatric symptoms are delayed, just
Speaker 5: like what you see that syphilis. It can begin with
Speaker 5: certain symptoms and years later you get the norro psychiatric symptoms.
Speaker 5: And now LINE can take many different courses. The average
Speaker 5: LINE patient with laid stage disease is not homicidal, although
Speaker 5: quite higher fairly eye number can become suicidal. But when
Speaker 5: it does take that path, it affects the brain. It
Speaker 5: can affect the body and the brain differently in different people,
Speaker 5: and in some people you see that aggressiveness develop. And
Speaker 5: I've had people describe it like one person described it
Speaker 5: to me, and I've heard this description repeatedly from different patients.
Speaker 5: They can feel there's this intrusive feeling that comes and
Speaker 5: they have this urge. And he described it as if
Speaker 5: I want to kill every living thing in the house
Speaker 5: and myself, and they want to kill the dog, the household, pets,
Speaker 5: and themselves and it overtakes them. Now it can fit
Speaker 5: with a biochemical change with and this is what we
Speaker 5: found in an autopsy with a case recently. It was
Speaker 5: a combined homicide, assault and suicide, and we looked at
Speaker 5: the brain. We found increased quinlinic acid that shouldn't be
Speaker 5: there and that can go with that where that orders
Speaker 5: the brain functioning and can bring on that homicidal and
Speaker 5: suicidal tendency. And it can be in different forms, like
Speaker 5: rage is more acute and when you see it, you
Speaker 5: never forget it. I have had I've seen it in
Speaker 5: my office and it's an out of control anger that
Speaker 5: can just overtake someone and they're sometimes almost in an
Speaker 5: altered state where they're not really there, but other times
Speaker 5: it's you know, it takes other forms. There's three basic
Speaker 5: forms of aggression that you see. One form of aggression
Speaker 5: is impost control disorder. Another form is where it's psychotic
Speaker 5: and paranoid pollusional and a person feels their acting defensively.
Speaker 5: And a third is predatory where there's a stalking and
Speaker 5: a it's and you can see combinations of those three.
Speaker 5: It depends on how the brain and north circuits are affected.
Speaker 1: I'm speaking with two guests, doctor Alfred Miller and doctor
Speaker 1: Robert Bransfield, and we're talking about a set of characteristics.
Speaker 1: I hope I'm describing this accurately, but both of them
Speaker 1: have worked on separately. How long have both of you
Speaker 1: been interacting? I assume that both of you had come
Speaker 1: to similar conclusions and at some point intersected. How long
Speaker 1: have you you two been been known to one another?
Speaker 5: I know, fifteen years. I'm not sure. I've been doing
Speaker 5: this since the nineteen eighties with the patients send it
Speaker 5: up and more involved since the nineties.
Speaker 1: Okay, just what I want? What the point I'm trying
Speaker 1: to make is that both of you, in effect have
Speaker 1: come to the same medical conclusions independently and and and
Speaker 1: then became aware of each other's work. Is that a
Speaker 1: correct characterization, Doctor Miller?
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, that's perfectly correct, exactly correct.
Speaker 1: Good, Okay, that's all same. Let me do this. I
Speaker 1: got to take quick break and we come back. We'll
Speaker 1: talk a little bit more, and then I want to
Speaker 1: get to phone calls. If you'd like to join the
Speaker 1: conversation six one, seven, two, five, four to ten thirty
Speaker 1: or six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. My
Speaker 1: name is Dan Ray. This is night Side. I said
Speaker 1: earlier today in one of our Zoom conferences that this
Speaker 1: is a night I wanted to challenge people to think.
Speaker 1: I'm not asking you to in any way, shape or
Speaker 1: form to quit an individual in your mind or say, well,
Speaker 1: what he did was was was not wrong, because clearly
Speaker 1: it was wrong and probably the insanity defense. I'm not
Speaker 1: I don't practice in New York. I practice law in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: I don't know how successful. He apparently has now taken
Speaker 1: on or a high a fuirly well known former prosecutor
Speaker 1: now criminal defense lawyer, and apparently he will waive extradition
Speaker 1: to go back to New York tomorrow. It will be
Speaker 1: interested to see if at his trial, or growing up
Speaker 1: to his trial, this becomes part of his defense. We
Speaker 1: will see. We'll be back with my guests more phone
Speaker 1: and phone calls right after this.
Speaker 2: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 2: night Side Studios on w PZ News Radio.
Speaker 1: My guest tonight during this hour dr Alfred Miller. He's
Speaker 1: a lime disease expert Mayo Clinic trained. You can see
Speaker 1: his his videos all over YouTube. He explains the this
Speaker 1: concept to you very clearly. Doctor Robert brands v who's
Speaker 1: a psychiatrist who is recognized within the lin community as
Speaker 1: being really in the forefront of treating patients with the
Speaker 1: neuropsychiatric symptoms of tickborne illness. Let me start this brief
Speaker 1: segment and we'll take phone calls right after the ten
Speaker 1: thirty news. Doctor br Branchfield, you have been involved in
Speaker 1: some of these very high profile cases. I think you
Speaker 1: told me that you had a guy who had killed
Speaker 1: four people. He's incarcerated in New Jersey, uh and one.
Speaker 5: In New Jersey, three were another state.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, Okay, juries at all sympathetic? Is that
Speaker 1: I don't view this as a defense, or maybe it
Speaker 1: should be viewed as a defense. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: of insanity as a defense, but in most states it's
Speaker 1: the right. You know, do you can you understand the
Speaker 1: duce between right and wrong? And if even though you're
Speaker 1: you're furious and you're angry, if you know what you're
Speaker 1: doing and you take someone's life, that insanity defense is
Speaker 1: not likely to work. How does this interact with an
Speaker 1: insanity defense in your in your experience, if.
Speaker 5: I could ask, well, the past few cases I had,
Speaker 5: two were attempted murder and two were sexual assault. And
Speaker 5: the two that were clearly line was a part of
Speaker 5: it and it resulted in a diminished capacity. But often
Speaker 5: they don't quite meet the insanity defense criteria, and so
Speaker 5: you have to kind of look at this the way
Speaker 5: you look at the airplane.
Speaker 1: Were these defendants convicted or or yes?
Speaker 5: The well, the one I'm not sure what the final
Speaker 5: outcome was that was outside of this country, but the
Speaker 5: others they were, although I think it's a mitigating factor
Speaker 5: where it's understanding that so it would make it a
Speaker 5: lesser degree of intenability. Y, yes.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, doctor Miller. Before we go to break here
Speaker 1: and just quickly in a couple of minutes, can you
Speaker 1: just give us a sense because I think you can
Speaker 1: answer this as well as anyone I know in terms
Speaker 1: of the percentages of the country that is now impacted
Speaker 1: by line disease, in terms of the percentage of the
Speaker 1: American public, is there any way to quantify how quickly
Speaker 1: and thoroughly this disease is spreading compared to where it
Speaker 1: was ten years ago or twenty years ago. My sense
Speaker 1: is that it's becoming omnipresent.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think it is becoming omnipresent, and at different
Speaker 3: parts of the country has a have a different specie
Speaker 3: of the berrillia. The northeast is loaded with Berrillia Burgdorfrey,
Speaker 3: known as lime disease. However, as I said before, there's
Speaker 3: forty eight species of Brillia, and this is very very important.
Speaker 3: If you live in Texas, for instance, and you have
Speaker 3: a Berrilli infection and you go to the doctor and
Speaker 3: say I want to be tested, they'll test you for
Speaker 3: lime disease that's Ballia bergdarfrey and it's come back completely negative.
Speaker 3: So you have to have a laboratory that's willing to
Speaker 3: look at all the different species. That's very important. Also,
Speaker 3: I want to tell the audience that the Brillia can
Speaker 3: be transmitted three ways. One is from a tick bite
Speaker 3: that we all know, the other is from mother to
Speaker 3: feed us through the placenta, and then lastly is through
Speaker 3: sexual intercourse. And proper testing is extremely important. The Western
Speaker 3: blot that's approved by the CDC eliminates bands thirty one
Speaker 3: and thirty four, and those are two characteristic bands for
Speaker 3: lime disease from Brillia Burg Darfrey. It's very very important
Speaker 3: to get proper testing. And with regards to the mental illnesses,
Speaker 3: it's interesting. You know, they've done some cultures. The cell
Speaker 3: in the body that guards against infection produces a substance
Speaker 3: called IL six interluken six, and that helps that cell.
Speaker 3: When the cell excrete that it helps it round up
Speaker 3: the invading organism. The cells in the brain are called
Speaker 3: glio cells. They don't produce IL six generally, but they
Speaker 3: did a culture of the glio cells and when they
Speaker 3: added berrillia, the brillias started producing IL six and it's amazing.
Speaker 3: They've done some autopsy impatients with mental illness and their
Speaker 3: brain has a very high level of interluken six. So
Speaker 3: many of these psychiatric illnesses that doctor Bransfield has written
Speaker 3: about are due to an infection and it is sexually transmitted.
Speaker 3: It's found in the semen of the male and the
Speaker 3: vaginal fluid of the email. And the treatment well, all
Speaker 3: treatments will fail unless the sexual partner is simultaneously treated.
Speaker 3: I want to say out those points in because they're
Speaker 3: very important.
Speaker 1: Well, you got them in and you got them in
Speaker 1: time because we got to jump to the ten thirty newscast. Gentlemen,
Speaker 1: I hope you can stick with us. We have phone
Speaker 1: calls and love to get as many questions as possible.
Speaker 1: I'll ask the callers to if you can direct the
Speaker 1: question either to doctor Miller or to doctor Brandsfield, that
Speaker 1: would be helpful. If you want to direct it to both,
Speaker 1: that's okay as well questions comments. Again, not looking for
Speaker 1: speeches from my callers. I think all of you understand that,
Speaker 1: particularly when we have experts of this caliber or the program,
Speaker 1: we don't often get experts on a subject of this caliber.
Speaker 1: So I'm delighted that both doctor Miller and doctor Bransfield
Speaker 1: are with us tonight. The only lines that are open
Speaker 1: right now are six one, seven, nine three, one ten
Speaker 1: thirty six one, seven, nine three, one, ten thirty. Be
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Speaker 2: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's
Speaker 2: news radio.
Speaker 1: I have two really interesting guests for you, Doctor Alfred Miller,
Speaker 1: Mayo Clinic trained a physician, Doctor Robert Brandsfield. He is
Speaker 1: a psychiatrist. Both of them have substantial expertise in the
Speaker 1: field of lime and lime disease. Gentlemen, we have packed
Speaker 1: lines from Maine to Florida, so let's get to as
Speaker 1: many as we can. If it's okay, here we go
Speaker 1: to Dave. He starts us up in Maine. Dave, you
Speaker 1: are first is hour with doctor Alfred Miller, doctor Robert Brandsfield.
Speaker 6: Go right ahead, Hey, Dan, thank you, Thank you doctors,
Speaker 6: longtime listener, first time caller, and and Dan, I want
Speaker 6: to thank you for inviting me. So you know, I
Speaker 6: almost drove off the road with your previous guests thought
Speaker 6: Elon Musk's technology was pedestrian, but I made it home
Speaker 6: into you know, unscaated. But my background is thirty five
Speaker 6: years in the healthcare field, mostly in the technology space
Speaker 6: with claims administration, and United Healthcare was one of my clients,
Speaker 6: and I know that they they are deeply entrenched in
Speaker 6: government business. They're the largest Medicare client, you know processor,
Speaker 6: but they have a huge commercial business as well, And
Speaker 6: you know, I want to get the opinions of the doctors.
Speaker 6: You know, it's it's a little bit curious that you
Speaker 6: know this this happened, and then three days later he's
Speaker 6: in the same close he's you know, the backpack is
Speaker 6: the same the murder weapons in there the manifesto. You
Speaker 6: know he didn't go Okay.
Speaker 1: Let's get their response on that. Let me start with
Speaker 1: doctor Bradsfield, because I think you're getting into this psychiatry
Speaker 1: of this behavior, Doctor Brandsfield, your comma.
Speaker 5: It doesn't sound if someone were well planned and organized,
Speaker 5: they wouldn't be carrying a murder weapon with them a
Speaker 5: week after or several days after the incident occurred, and
Speaker 5: they wouldn't be eating in a public restaurant. So it
Speaker 5: sounded like there was a certain amount of disorganization there,
Speaker 5: and so you question about how organized the person was.
Speaker 5: And I think there was some reference to Ted Kazinski,
Speaker 5: which which was quite a concern where and you'd wonder
Speaker 5: what happened with Ted Kazinski. He was a right person
Speaker 5: that just went downhill. Something happened. You'd wonder did he
Speaker 5: have some infection that got to him and caused him
Speaker 5: to deterrorate.
Speaker 1: Now they both are are Ivy League graduates, obviously Harvard
Speaker 1: or University of Pennsylvania, so both of them probably have
Speaker 1: pretty high IQs.
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, and I'm not an Ivy League guy, But
Speaker 6: but what what we're experiencing, and this is again, this
Speaker 6: is just my opinion, and I invite discourse and conversation,
Speaker 6: and Dan, I appreciate your program that invites that. Is
Speaker 6: you know, we're in the kind of the era of
Speaker 6: the whistleblower, right, and I happened to understand that, you know,
Speaker 6: in the age of vaccine injuries and a number of
Speaker 6: pressures that are forcing costs up in the healthcare system.
Speaker 6: It was curious that he was assassinated right before he
Speaker 6: went into an investor's conference. And that's very curious, and
Speaker 6: I just want to invite other callers to maybe way.
Speaker 1: In on that and read curiosity into it. I read
Speaker 1: opportunity into it, and that that probably was a publicized event. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know that there was a message. Necessarily. My
Speaker 1: question is how he knew exactly what door this the
Speaker 1: CEO was walking into and at what time, because he
Speaker 1: literally hit you a position himself across the street. And
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully if there's if he was able to
Speaker 1: glean information, either intentionally or inadvertently. I think that's part
Speaker 1: of the story. Dave, great call, first time caller. I
Speaker 1: look forward to dan subsequent calls. Thanks very much. Whereabouts
Speaker 1: in May? How far up are you how far up.
Speaker 7: I'm in York.
Speaker 6: I'm in York, Maine and over the border.
Speaker 1: That's easy. You're like a suburb of Boston. Hey, thanks, Dave,
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thank good night. Let me go to Karen
Speaker 1: a little closer to home in Watertown. Karen, your own
Speaker 1: doctor Alfred Miller and doctor Robert Bransfield.
Speaker 8: Go right ahead, Karen, Hi, I have a question for
Speaker 8: both doctors. So, people diagnosed with lime disease, they one
Speaker 8: hundred percent have Barrellia bird or ferry the aterium in
Speaker 8: the system. So what percentage can you estimate of people
Speaker 8: with barellia infection with lime disease commit violent acts?
Speaker 1: Great question, Great question, Karen.
Speaker 5: Homicide on one. Okay, but well, now that's late stage disease,
Speaker 5: but lesser degrees. It is a greater percentage excause of anger,
Speaker 5: late stage disease, I've seen thirty nine percent. But low
Speaker 5: frustration tolerance, you see that fairly often more commonly you
Speaker 5: just seek a little bit of irritability, and many people
Speaker 5: who have it don't have much of a problem. Now,
Speaker 5: one study out of China looks at the global SERA
Speaker 5: positive rate, which is fourteen and a half percent in
Speaker 5: the world now, however, it's even a very small percent
Speaker 5: of that of people get aggressiveness or violence. It's a
Speaker 5: huge number of people, but your average line patient does
Speaker 5: not have aggressiveness. And this affects different people in different ways.
Speaker 5: So we don't want to think everyone has arme disease,
Speaker 5: has this and my disease and have very minimal symptoms
Speaker 5: or no psych symptoms. But other people have react very strongly.
Speaker 5: But who knows. Maybe they're a different co infection, different susceptibility.
Speaker 5: There's a complicated formula.
Speaker 1: Well, let me see if doctor Miller wants to take
Speaker 1: a shot at that question.
Speaker 3: Doctor Miller, no, I agree one percent with doctor Brandskill.
Speaker 3: I've also come to the inclusion that whenever that whenever
Speaker 3: you see you turn on the news and there's a horrible,
Speaker 3: tragic shooting, whether it's in a school or elsewhere, the
Speaker 3: first thing that comes to my mind is line disease raised.
Speaker 3: And I look at the perpetrators, and most of them
Speaker 3: to show some subtle sign of having had lime disease.
Speaker 1: All right, go ahead, follow up.
Speaker 8: You know the thing is too We have a new
Speaker 8: doctor Branskill can answer to this. We have a twenty
Speaker 8: six year old his prefrontal cortex, especially males, does not develop.
Speaker 8: It's not probably fully developed. And we have a young
Speaker 8: man who's very bright, very passionate. I think he I
Speaker 8: think his motives. Perhaps his intention was to like like
Speaker 8: like Dave Main said, like a whistleblower, like he wants
Speaker 8: to put call attention to the plight of people who
Speaker 8: are denied coverage.
Speaker 1: Interesting attention.
Speaker 8: Consider not a cold blooded This is first to be
Speaker 8: murder in my opinion. But but you know we have
Speaker 8: so there's that it's prese of a cortex is not
Speaker 8: fully developed. You can't really anticipate or know that the
Speaker 8: implications of his actions.
Speaker 5: Well, sometimes it's pre funded cortex. One area you may
Speaker 5: think of as cognitive functioning. Now, a lot of people
Speaker 5: that are homicidal if you go in a prison system,
Speaker 5: are often cognitively impaired, but that you can have emotional impairment,
Speaker 5: and both of those can be an added risk. You're
Speaker 5: it's it's someone's achieved at a higher level, which I
Speaker 5: think in this case was occurred. It's hard to say
Speaker 5: there was a lack of development of the prefundal cortex.
Speaker 5: It seems like maybe damage you have circuits that say
Speaker 5: attack and circuits that restraint, and there can be damage
Speaker 5: that gets them out of balance, and that's usually what
Speaker 5: can make someone more aggressive. But there's a lot of
Speaker 5: different ways to get to that formula. There's contributors, the
Speaker 5: terrence and a cue triggers, and you have to look
Speaker 5: at that formula. It's different formula, different people.
Speaker 9: I got a great, great epic, and if I were
Speaker 9: his defensilar, I would definitely go with this, this Baillia defense.
Speaker 3: But I'm as they told, there's no logical reason. There's
Speaker 3: no logical reason. It's tyfinitely out of the blue. It's
Speaker 3: lines of these rates.
Speaker 5: Here's what comes up with a lot of these cases
Speaker 5: often is bizarre and census. That's a phrase. It comes
Speaker 5: up a lot where it's not as well planned out
Speaker 5: orchestrated thing. It's bizarre and census. It's like, who would
Speaker 5: do that? That's just so crazy or absurd it makes
Speaker 5: no sense. That's what I particularly see with these cases.
Speaker 5: All right, comes up again and again.
Speaker 1: Gentlemen, I got it. I got a boss with quick break.
Speaker 1: I want to thank you called it as always carry,
Speaker 1: Thank you much. Talk soon. We've got coming up next.
Speaker 1: We got Tracy and Nashua, Edin, Norwood and Dennis from Florida.
Speaker 1: We'll be back with my guest, doctor Alfred Miller, doctor
Speaker 1: Robert Brandsfield, and we are talking about lime disease rage
Speaker 1: or simply lime rage, and is it attributable to what
Speaker 1: happened in New York? What's it now? Nearly two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Coming back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 2: Now bent to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 2: night Side Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the calls. Going to go to
Speaker 1: Tracy up in New Hampshire. Tracy, you're with doctor Alfred
Speaker 1: Miller and doctor Robert Brinsfield. Go right ahead.
Speaker 8: Hi, I'm a registered nurse. I had late stage disseminated
Speaker 8: line for the better part of twenty years, and I'm
Speaker 8: not homicidal, nor are most of the people and none
Speaker 8: of the people that I've met, and I've met many
Speaker 8: people who have had longe disease fellow patients. So I
Speaker 8: think it's important that we don't leave this segment without
Speaker 8: with it giving people the impression that are listening that
Speaker 8: they need to be afraid of everybody they know who
Speaker 8: has lime disease if they could snap any minute, and
Speaker 8: do something terrible. And the reason that that's important is
Speaker 8: because the incidents of linemen its country is approaching half
Speaker 8: a million people every year they get diagnosed. That's twice
Speaker 8: the incidents of breast cancer. So think about all the
Speaker 8: people that you know with breast cancer. Now double that.
Speaker 8: That's all the people that you know with lime.
Speaker 3: You may not know they have a lie.
Speaker 1: Tracy. I think your point is well made. And I
Speaker 1: suspect that both doctor Miller and doctor Brinsfield would concur.
Speaker 5: Yes, very strongly.
Speaker 3: Yes, I agreed. An infection can take many pants, depending
Speaker 3: upon what part of the brain, what part of the individual,
Speaker 3: the berrillia concentrate, right, And I think.
Speaker 8: Because it is so common in our society, and you know,
Speaker 8: it's just getting more common, we sort of have to
Speaker 8: normalize it. And and I didn't want people to leave
Speaker 8: and think, well, gosh, now you know all the people
Speaker 8: that know with lime, I need to be afraid of
Speaker 8: them because they're gonna snap like the sky.
Speaker 3: I think. I think, you know, the beryllia can remain
Speaker 3: dormant in the body and then come out. You know.
Speaker 3: For instance, another example would be shingles, you know, chicken pockets, hits,
Speaker 3: you when you're eight six and age six that you
Speaker 3: get shingles so that the organism can be suppressed by
Speaker 3: the immune system or other things, and then bang. So
Speaker 3: it's unpredictable, all right.
Speaker 1: But you it's Tracy, we're an agreement.
Speaker 8: Now you're going to get muscular skeletal pain, not a
Speaker 8: psychiatric reaction.
Speaker 1: Right, Tracy, we're ingreble with you. I think the point
Speaker 1: both doctors and I am and am agreeing with you.
Speaker 1: So I think you made your point. I think it
Speaker 1: was an important point to make. But I need to
Speaker 1: move on and get a couple more calls in here.
Speaker 4: Okay, thanks so much, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Tracy, appreciate for what you do. Let me go next
Speaker 1: to I got to go to Dennis in Florida. Dennis,
Speaker 1: you got to be quick for me because they have
Speaker 1: room for you. And one more, go ahead, Dennis.
Speaker 7: Everything comes from something, nothing comes from nothing. And the
Speaker 7: problem that I see is that, in fifty years of
Speaker 7: practicing dentistry and seeing patients with very strange symptoms, when
Speaker 7: it came to just diagnosing a lime disease, the infectious
Speaker 7: disease wrote or there's lime disease, doctors being wax and quax,
Speaker 7: and I don't think that it is. My question is
Speaker 7: how can we get doctor Brandsfield and doctor Miller to
Speaker 7: our new administration to help to make the science and
Speaker 7: history of diseases like the lime pertinent so they can
Speaker 7: be treated and not just blown away. Because if you
Speaker 7: look at history, you see the diseases that have come
Speaker 7: from Mosquitos, like yellow fever and not just his lime disease.
Speaker 7: Everything is coming from it. Yeah, hilarios, and these have
Speaker 7: been catastrophic diseases, and we need to learn from history.
Speaker 7: And in medical school and dental school, they don't teach
Speaker 7: that kind of history. So how can you help doctor
Speaker 7: Brandsfield and doctor Miller get to our new government and
Speaker 7: to the idea of giving this nation a healthier aspect
Speaker 7: for the future. So I think that's the most important thing,
Speaker 7: And so that the doctors and say infects is disease
Speaker 7: and other portions of the medical society can understand that
Speaker 7: this is a real problem and many people.
Speaker 1: Is what we're doing tonight is exactly that I've had
Speaker 1: doctor Miller on my program on many occasions. Is the
Speaker 1: first time that I've had the opportunity to speak with
Speaker 1: doctor Brandsfield and I'm hoping. Look, this radio station has
Speaker 1: heard not only in places like Florida and Maine, but
Speaker 1: it's heard all up anywhere east of the Mississippi River.
Speaker 1: And it's programs like this that hopefully I do not
Speaker 1: have Donald Trump or Elon Musk's private number, but hopefully
Speaker 1: there will be some people who will take note of this,
Speaker 1: and that's what we're doing. Have you ever before, I
Speaker 1: don't recall.
Speaker 7: I have not, but I shall again. And I think
Speaker 7: it's such an important subject, which is why I called
Speaker 7: in to have such pretty doctors as doctor Miller and
Speaker 7: doctor Bransfield on. I think that the world needs to
Speaker 7: understand that when we looked the most if you look history,
Speaker 7: when people looked at pont scum water, they saw pond
Speaker 7: scum water. When John Leewodhook invented the microscope, he saw
Speaker 7: the animals and the bugs that live in there. And
Speaker 7: we need to see the animals and bugs that are
Speaker 7: affecting our health, and perhaps then we can have a
Speaker 7: medical society that is more united in helping their patients
Speaker 7: in all dimensions and not blowing off things as being quackery,
Speaker 7: which is what happened to lyme disease and except for
Speaker 7: the people who have been affected by it in their families.
Speaker 7: The other people don't know, and many of the doctors
Speaker 7: don't either. So I'm hoping that somebody listening take doctor
Speaker 7: Branfield and doctor Miller and bring them to Washington. Let
Speaker 7: him speak with RSK and say what can we do
Speaker 7: and how can we make the medical group people understand
Speaker 7: this better so they can see thet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dennis, you've made your points really well. I appreciate.
Speaker 1: I want to get one more caller in. I hope
Speaker 1: you'll continue to listen to Night Side because we try
Speaker 1: to do programs like this, uh and sometimes getting men
Speaker 1: of this caliber not the easiest thing in the world
Speaker 1: to do. Trust me on that. So thank your friend
Speaker 1: for many years. And he's he's he's been on this
Speaker 1: program for many years, and I have tremendous faith in him.
Speaker 1: Uh as he will. I'm sure would have test you
Speaker 1: if if you have a spoke, had a chance to
Speaker 1: speak with him. Thank you so much.
Speaker 7: I appreciate it. Thank you, You're welcome.
Speaker 1: You're welcome. Great great compliment, gentlemen, coming from someone in
Speaker 1: the in the medical community. Edward ed in Norwood, Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: Ed got to be quick for us.
Speaker 4: We're getting tight on time here, thanks Dan. Uh. I
Speaker 4: guess this for doctor Miller's I heard the three ways
Speaker 4: you can acquire line disease, But is there any way
Speaker 4: like you could get it from your tent like a
Speaker 4: dog at it, you know LNE disease and died of it.
Speaker 4: Is there any way for the ticks, saint ticks to
Speaker 4: get on to you?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, is yes, if the dog brings into the
Speaker 3: house picks and they get on you, they're gonna if
Speaker 3: there's a brilliant inside that tick, it's gonna tansfer to you.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 4: Now is that the ticks ever do like for like myasis,
Speaker 4: with their attached to human body under the skin, they
Speaker 4: can't see him or they always attached to the outside,
Speaker 4: we can see them.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, repeat.
Speaker 1: That they attached, they attached the outside, They burrow into
Speaker 1: the into the skin. Go ahead. Doctor's question was how
Speaker 1: to ticks invade the body?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great. It made and made from the outside.
Speaker 4: Yes, I realized that. It's just since shortly after my
Speaker 4: dog died five years ago, I've had an infection off
Speaker 4: and on where it seems like there's something that has
Speaker 4: borrowed onto my skin. They've done the tested me flying
Speaker 4: all kinds of different things, and uh, most of the
Speaker 4: time they just kind of blow it off, like you know,
Speaker 4: you feel like they're not.
Speaker 3: But the testing, the testing is critical. Every test for
Speaker 3: a line disease or any brillian infection uses anti looking
Speaker 3: for antibodies, and this organism can bury itself deep into
Speaker 3: your tissue and become a microscopic cyst and it no
Speaker 3: longer challenges your immune system, so there are no antibodies.
Speaker 3: So the blood tests come back negative. But if you
Speaker 3: open up that cyst and bring out the spira keep
Speaker 3: expose it to the immune system, suddenly the test is bright,
Speaker 3: bright positive.
Speaker 4: Now it's funny you say that, because I did acquire
Speaker 4: a system on my stomach and did a PA checked
Speaker 4: with the ultrasound and just said, it's just a lump
Speaker 4: vatue lump, but I feel it.
Speaker 1: Let me, let me do this. We can't diagnose over
Speaker 1: the year, but doctor Miller has talked to many of
Speaker 1: my listeners over the years, and you can find doctor Miller.
Speaker 1: Doctor Miller easiest way for people to contact you directly
Speaker 1: if you would.
Speaker 3: It's all lower case letters. Doctor al Miller, No punctuating
Speaker 3: doctor al Miller at gmail dot com.
Speaker 4: One more quick question.
Speaker 1: No, if we don't have time for another quick question
Speaker 1: because it's eleven o'clock, so I got to let you go.
Speaker 1: I hate to do this to you, but it's doctor
Speaker 1: al Miller and my l E. R at gmail dot com.
Speaker 4: Okay, yea, that's okay, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Feel free to contact gentlemen. I would love to keep
Speaker 1: you into the next hour, but I know that you're
Speaker 1: both quite busy and I don't want it. We pose,
Speaker 1: but thank you so much for your time tonight.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you Dan for doing this. It helps
Speaker 5: a lot of people. And I think one closing the
Speaker 5: mark is I think line more commonly causes disability. That's
Speaker 5: the greater problem with it. And I think there are
Speaker 5: other infections other than mine that are more commonly associated
Speaker 5: with violence. And I'm looking at globally with with CONFIICT zones, World,
Speaker 5: Middle East, Holy Lean, Central America, and there's I think
Speaker 5: there's other infections there that contribute to making violence the
Speaker 5: endemic in those parts of the world that are not
Speaker 5: fun right, probably Brelli or some other parasitic infection.
Speaker 1: I'd love to have both of you back. At some point,
Speaker 1: I know i'll have doctor millerback, Doctor Bransfield. I hope
Speaker 1: that you'll become a regular as well.
Speaker 5: Sure, i'd be happy to thank.
Speaker 1: You both both very very much. Thank you, gentlemen. If
Speaker 1: you're on the line and you'd like to talk about
Speaker 1: lyme disease, I'm up for it. Six one, seven, two, five,
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