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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Boston Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, of course, one of the big stories that we

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<v Speaker 1>have been dealing with in the last a few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>has been the assassination of the CEO of the healthcare

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<v Speaker 1>company down in New York, Brian Thompson. And let's having

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation last week with a friend and a frequent

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<v Speaker 1>guest in this program, doctor Alfred Miller from Texas. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the person who I can target anything dealing with any

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<v Speaker 1>any questions dealing with lyme disease. He's studied this, He's

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<v Speaker 1>Mayo trained physician. And doctor Miller was suggesting that I

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<v Speaker 1>also contacted doctor uh not doctor Robert Brandsvelt Bransfield, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>who is a psychiatrist recognized in the community as being

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<v Speaker 1>in the forefront of treating patients with the neuropsychiatric symptoms

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<v Speaker 1>of tickborn illness. So I'm going to talk to two

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<v Speaker 1>highly qualified individuals. Uh And for those of you who

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<v Speaker 1>remember my friend, doctor Alfred Miller, let me reintroduce doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred Miller to you. First, Doctor Miller, welcome back Tonight's

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<v Speaker 1>that how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fine, Dan, Thank you so much for inviting me

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<v Speaker 3>to come back tonight. Well, I might say something if

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<v Speaker 3>I can. I'd like to say something about my co

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<v Speaker 3>person to be on your program tonight, Dr Brandsfield. The

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<v Speaker 3>man is brilliant. He deserves the Nobel Prize. He has

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<v Speaker 3>contributed so much to this field. And he's the first

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<v Speaker 3>UH physician that I encountered who advocated the treatment for

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<v Speaker 3>autistic children using antibiotics to clear barillia, to eradicate barillia,

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<v Speaker 3>and these patients have had remarkable success. So he is truly,

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<v Speaker 3>truly remarking, I think he deserves an Obel Prize.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's high praise. And we're going to get to

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Bransfield in just a moment, but let's talk for

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<v Speaker 1>a moment. You know, lime disease is obviously every year

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<v Speaker 1>more and more prevalent in this country. You know that

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<v Speaker 1>better than anyone. And I believe that there is now

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<v Speaker 1>a diagnosis or a developing diagnosis called lime disease rage

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<v Speaker 1>or lime rage. Explain to us what you mean by that.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, this is not in any way

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<v Speaker 1>to excuse the actions of the shooter, the alleged shooter

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, Luigi Manngioni. But let's talk about what

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<v Speaker 1>your suspicions are in this case, and then I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get doctor Brandsfield involved in this as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, thank you. Lime disease rage. They well recognize the

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<v Speaker 3>definitive diagnosis of patients who have a berrillia. And by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, I use the word barrillia instead of line

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<v Speaker 3>because there's forty eight different species of brillia, one of

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<v Speaker 3>which is lying. However, the patients who have this illness

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<v Speaker 3>develop a rage when the organism infects a certain part

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<v Speaker 3>of the brain, and they These people often present as

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<v Speaker 3>boy scouts virtually. I mean, they've had exceptional rearing, they've

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<v Speaker 3>had exceptional accomplishments, and out of the blue, they suddenly

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<v Speaker 3>do something horrible. As an example, not too long ago,

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<v Speaker 3>when Adam Lanza in Connecticut, Newtown, Connecticut shot twenty students

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<v Speaker 3>at an elementary school. He got up in the morning

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<v Speaker 3>and his mother and then he went to shoot these kids.

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<v Speaker 3>And he didn't just shoot him once. He shot him

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<v Speaker 3>multiple times as though he was in a rage. And

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<v Speaker 3>his mother and.

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<v Speaker 1>Also we should mention there were also six teachers who

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<v Speaker 1>who lands A killed that morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and his mother, while pregnant, had multiple hroses. So

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<v Speaker 3>that's caused by bailli in faction and it was transmitted

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<v Speaker 3>to adam Lanza via the placenta. And also right around

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<v Speaker 3>that time, if you recall, there was a chimpanzee in

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<v Speaker 3>Connecticut who was a member of the family. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>he was a family pet that he ate his meals

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<v Speaker 3>at the table with the family and he greeted their friends.

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<v Speaker 3>And one day one of his familiar friends walked in

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<v Speaker 3>and he toure off her face. And I looked into

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<v Speaker 3>his history and he had been treated for lime disease.

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<v Speaker 3>So again he had a severe rage reaction. And oftentimes

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<v Speaker 3>if the rage is directed out, these people perpetrate these

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<v Speaker 3>horrible crimes. If it's perpetrated in, they commit suicide. And

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<v Speaker 3>we don't always we're not always blessed with the history

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<v Speaker 3>of documenting this illness, like in the case of man Geomy,

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<v Speaker 3>where everyone knew that he developed a severe lime disease

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<v Speaker 3>associated with brain fog, and then his grades began to fail,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he had this horrible thing when he killed

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<v Speaker 3>the executive. So and if we don't have that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a history, I've looked at pictures of the perpetrators

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<v Speaker 3>of these other horrible crimes and they show signs of

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<v Speaker 3>lime disease even though it's not documented in their history.

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<v Speaker 3>And the sign they show is Bell's palsy. Bell's policy

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<v Speaker 3>is caused by baillia and it runs its course and

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<v Speaker 3>then the organism remains in the patient and in the

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<v Speaker 3>dormant stage. But if you look at the photographs of

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<v Speaker 3>these perpetrators, you'll see one eye lid low and the

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<v Speaker 3>side of the mouth down, and that's characteristic of Bell's palsy.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is it's very very significant.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the article about Mangonian and lime disease? That was

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<v Speaker 1>a CNN article that you that you're referring to.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, Yes, yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me get doctor Brince Bransfield in Doctor Bransfield, I

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<v Speaker 1>know that you're very familiar with these cases, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know that you have been an expert witness in these cases.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're not here to do anything to support, at least,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not to support Luigi Mangioni, who committed a horrific,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, murder. He enjoys the presumption of innocence.

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<v Speaker 1>But comment, if you will, on what doctor Miller has

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<v Speaker 1>just proposed. I know that that you have been a

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<v Speaker 1>expert witness in some very high profile murder cases around

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<v Speaker 1>the country in which you feel lime rage may have

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<v Speaker 1>been a propos a.

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<v Speaker 4>Factor right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes it's time rage, it's other There's more than one

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<v Speaker 5>form it can take, and I've treated I've done a

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<v Speaker 5>study with patients who committed homicides or who were homicidal.

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<v Speaker 5>One study, I looked at fifty line patients who were

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<v Speaker 5>homicidal and actually forty nine of the fifty were also suicidal.

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<v Speaker 5>So they often go into this rage. And when I've

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<v Speaker 5>seen lime rage, I've seen in my office and it's

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<v Speaker 5>frightening where there's a there's a powder control quality. But

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes it's not just lime rage. There's different forms that

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<v Speaker 5>the aggressiveness can take.

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<v Speaker 4>There's uh, how do.

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<v Speaker 1>You diagnose a lot? You know, do you have to

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<v Speaker 1>know that the patient has had either undiagnosed or diagnosed

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<v Speaker 1>lime disease or untreated lime disease. I know that doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Miller has talked to us a many occasions about the

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<v Speaker 1>intu inatic equisy, inadequacy of some of the line tests

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<v Speaker 1>of the Western Block test, for example, fairly unreliable, and

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<v Speaker 1>that people either do not know they've been bitten and

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<v Speaker 1>they're not treated. How are you able to isolate this

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<v Speaker 1>form of rage.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you look at the history of it and usually

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<v Speaker 5>what begins. It may begin years before where someone gets

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<v Speaker 5>an infection it's not necessarily adequately recognized or treated, or

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<v Speaker 5>they may just give an inadequate treatment, and then it

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<v Speaker 5>can be relapsing remitting over a period of years. And

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<v Speaker 5>then the average person I see is nine years post infection,

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<v Speaker 5>some more, some less. The psychiatric symptoms are delayed, just

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<v Speaker 5>like what you see that syphilis. It can begin with

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<v Speaker 5>certain symptoms and years later you get the norro psychiatric symptoms.

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<v Speaker 5>And now LINE can take many different courses. The average

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<v Speaker 5>LINE patient with laid stage disease is not homicidal, although

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<v Speaker 5>quite higher fairly eye number can become suicidal. But when

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<v Speaker 5>it does take that path, it affects the brain. It

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<v Speaker 5>can affect the body and the brain differently in different people,

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<v Speaker 5>and in some people you see that aggressiveness develop. And

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<v Speaker 5>I've had people describe it like one person described it

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<v Speaker 5>to me, and I've heard this description repeatedly from different patients.

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<v Speaker 5>They can feel there's this intrusive feeling that comes and

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<v Speaker 5>they have this urge. And he described it as if

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<v Speaker 5>I want to kill every living thing in the house

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<v Speaker 5>and myself, and they want to kill the dog, the household, pets,

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<v Speaker 5>and themselves and it overtakes them. Now it can fit

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<v Speaker 5>with a biochemical change with and this is what we

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<v Speaker 5>found in an autopsy with a case recently. It was

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<v Speaker 5>a combined homicide, assault and suicide, and we looked at

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<v Speaker 5>the brain. We found increased quinlinic acid that shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 5>there and that can go with that where that orders

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<v Speaker 5>the brain functioning and can bring on that homicidal and

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<v Speaker 5>suicidal tendency. And it can be in different forms, like

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<v Speaker 5>rage is more acute and when you see it, you

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<v Speaker 5>never forget it. I have had I've seen it in

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<v Speaker 5>my office and it's an out of control anger that

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<v Speaker 5>can just overtake someone and they're sometimes almost in an

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<v Speaker 5>altered state where they're not really there, but other times

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<v Speaker 5>it's you know, it takes other forms. There's three basic

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<v Speaker 5>forms of aggression that you see. One form of aggression

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<v Speaker 5>is impost control disorder. Another form is where it's psychotic

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<v Speaker 5>and paranoid pollusional and a person feels their acting defensively.

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<v Speaker 5>And a third is predatory where there's a stalking and

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<v Speaker 5>a it's and you can see combinations of those three.

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<v Speaker 5>It depends on how the brain and north circuits are affected.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm speaking with two guests, doctor Alfred Miller and doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Bransfield, and we're talking about a set of characteristics.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope I'm describing this accurately, but both of them

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<v Speaker 1>have worked on separately. How long have both of you

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<v Speaker 1>been interacting? I assume that both of you had come

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<v Speaker 1>to similar conclusions and at some point intersected. How long

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<v Speaker 1>have you you two been been known to one another?

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<v Speaker 5>I know, fifteen years. I'm not sure. I've been doing

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<v Speaker 5>this since the nineteen eighties with the patients send it

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<v Speaker 5>up and more involved since the nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, just what I want? What the point I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make is that both of you, in effect have

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<v Speaker 1>come to the same medical conclusions independently and and and

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<v Speaker 1>then became aware of each other's work. Is that a

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<v Speaker 1>correct characterization, Doctor Miller?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Yes, that's perfectly correct, exactly correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, Okay, that's all same. Let me do this. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to take quick break and we come back. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit more, and then I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get to phone calls. If you'd like to join the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation six one, seven, two, five, four to ten thirty

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<v Speaker 1>or six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. My

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<v Speaker 1>name is Dan Ray. This is night Side. I said

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<v Speaker 1>earlier today in one of our Zoom conferences that this

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<v Speaker 1>is a night I wanted to challenge people to think.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not asking you to in any way, shape or

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<v Speaker 1>form to quit an individual in your mind or say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what he did was was was not wrong, because clearly

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<v Speaker 1>it was wrong and probably the insanity defense. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>I don't practice in New York. I practice law in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how successful. He apparently has now taken

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<v Speaker 1>on or a high a fuirly well known former prosecutor

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<v Speaker 1>now criminal defense lawyer, and apparently he will waive extradition

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to New York tomorrow. It will be

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<v Speaker 1>interested to see if at his trial, or growing up

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<v Speaker 1>to his trial, this becomes part of his defense. We

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<v Speaker 1>will see. We'll be back with my guests more phone

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<v Speaker 1>and phone calls right after this.

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<v Speaker 2>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 2>night Side Studios on w PZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>My guest tonight during this hour dr Alfred Miller. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a lime disease expert Mayo Clinic trained. You can see

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<v Speaker 1>his his videos all over YouTube. He explains the this

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<v Speaker 1>concept to you very clearly. Doctor Robert brands v who's

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<v Speaker 1>a psychiatrist who is recognized within the lin community as

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<v Speaker 1>being really in the forefront of treating patients with the

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<v Speaker 1>thirty news. Doctor br Branchfield, you have been involved in

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<v Speaker 5>In New Jersey, three were another state.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fair enough, Okay, juries at all sympathetic? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>of insanity as a defense, but in most states it's

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<v Speaker 5>I could ask, well, the past few cases I had,

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<v Speaker 5>they don't quite meet the insanity defense criteria, and so

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<v Speaker 1>Were these defendants convicted or or yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure, doctor Miller. Before we go to break here

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<v Speaker 1>and just quickly in a couple of minutes, can you

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<v Speaker 1>of the percentages of the country that is now impacted

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I think it is becoming omnipresent, and at different

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<v Speaker 3>of the berrillia. The northeast is loaded with Berrillia Burgdorfrey,

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<v Speaker 3>known as lime disease. However, as I said before, there's

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<v Speaker 3>forty eight species of Brillia, and this is very very important.

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<v Speaker 3>If you live in Texas, for instance, and you have

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<v Speaker 3>lime disease that's Ballia bergdarfrey and it's come back completely negative.

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<v Speaker 3>look at all the different species. That's very important. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>sexual intercourse. And proper testing is extremely important. The Western

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<v Speaker 3>blot that's approved by the CDC eliminates bands thirty one

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<v Speaker 3>and thirty four, and those are two characteristic bands for

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<v Speaker 3>to get proper testing. And with regards to the mental illnesses,

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<v Speaker 3>it's interesting. You know, they've done some cultures. The cell

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<v Speaker 3>called IL six interluken six, and that helps that cell.

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<v Speaker 3>When the cell excrete that it helps it round up

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<v Speaker 3>the invading organism. The cells in the brain are called

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<v Speaker 3>glio cells. They don't produce IL six generally, but they

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<v Speaker 3>did a culture of the glio cells and when they

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<v Speaker 3>added berrillia, the brillias started producing IL six and it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>They've done some autopsy impatients with mental illness and their

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<v Speaker 3>brain has a very high level of interluken six. So

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<v Speaker 3>many of these psychiatric illnesses that doctor Bransfield has written

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<v Speaker 3>about are due to an infection and it is sexually transmitted.

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<v Speaker 3>It's found in the semen of the male and the

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say out those points in because they're

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you got them in and you got them in

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<v Speaker 1>time because we got to jump to the ten thirty newscast. Gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you can stick with us. We have phone

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<v Speaker 1>I'll ask the callers to if you can direct the

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<v Speaker 1>question either to doctor Miller or to doctor Brandsfield, that

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<v Speaker 1>would be helpful. If you want to direct it to both,

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay as well questions comments. Again, not looking for

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<v Speaker 1>speeches from my callers. I think all of you understand that,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly when we have experts of this caliber or the program,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm delighted that both doctor Miller and doctor Bransfield

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<v Speaker 1>are with us tonight. The only lines that are open

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<v Speaker 2>You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's

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<v Speaker 1>I have two really interesting guests for you, Doctor Alfred Miller,

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<v Speaker 1>Mayo Clinic trained a physician, Doctor Robert Brandsfield. He is

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<v Speaker 1>a psychiatrist. Both of them have substantial expertise in the

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<v Speaker 1>field of lime and lime disease. Gentlemen, we have packed

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<v Speaker 1>lines from Maine to Florida, so let's get to as

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<v Speaker 1>many as we can. If it's okay, here we go

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<v Speaker 1>to Dave. He starts us up in Maine. Dave, you

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<v Speaker 1>are first is hour with doctor Alfred Miller, doctor Robert Brandsfield.

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<v Speaker 6>Go right ahead, Hey, Dan, thank you, Thank you doctors,

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<v Speaker 6>longtime listener, first time caller, and and Dan, I want

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<v Speaker 6>to thank you for inviting me. So you know, I

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<v Speaker 6>almost drove off the road with your previous guests thought

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<v Speaker 6>Elon Musk's technology was pedestrian, but I made it home

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<v Speaker 6>into you know, unscaated. But my background is thirty five

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<v Speaker 6>years in the healthcare field, mostly in the technology space

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<v Speaker 6>with claims administration, and United Healthcare was one of my clients,

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<v Speaker 6>and I know that they they are deeply entrenched in

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<v Speaker 6>government business. They're the largest Medicare client, you know processor,

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<v Speaker 6>but they have a huge commercial business as well, And

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I want to get the opinions of the doctors.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, it's it's a little bit curious that you

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<v Speaker 6>know this this happened, and then three days later he's

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<v Speaker 6>in the same close he's you know, the backpack is

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<v Speaker 6>the same the murder weapons in there the manifesto. You

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<v Speaker 6>know he didn't go Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get their response on that. Let me start with

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Bradsfield, because I think you're getting into this psychiatry

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<v Speaker 1>of this behavior, Doctor Brandsfield, your comma.

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't sound if someone were well planned and organized,

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<v Speaker 5>they wouldn't be carrying a murder weapon with them a

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<v Speaker 5>week after or several days after the incident occurred, and

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<v Speaker 5>they wouldn't be eating in a public restaurant. So it

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<v Speaker 5>sounded like there was a certain amount of disorganization there,

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<v Speaker 5>and so you question about how organized the person was.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think there was some reference to Ted Kazinski,

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<v Speaker 5>which which was quite a concern where and you'd wonder

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<v Speaker 5>what happened with Ted Kazinski. He was a right person

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<v Speaker 5>that just went downhill. Something happened. You'd wonder did he

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<v Speaker 5>have some infection that got to him and caused him

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<v Speaker 5>to deterrorate.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they both are are Ivy League graduates, obviously Harvard

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<v Speaker 1>or University of Pennsylvania, so both of them probably have

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<v Speaker 6>Well, yeah, and I'm not an Ivy League guy, But

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<v Speaker 6>but what what we're experiencing, and this is again, this

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<v Speaker 6>is just my opinion, and I invite discourse and conversation,

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<v Speaker 6>and Dan, I appreciate your program that invites that. Is

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<v Speaker 6>you know, we're in the kind of the era of

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<v Speaker 6>the whistleblower, right, and I happened to understand that, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>in the age of vaccine injuries and a number of

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<v Speaker 6>It was curious that he was assassinated right before he

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<v Speaker 6>went into an investor's conference. And that's very curious, and

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<v Speaker 6>I just want to invite other callers to maybe way.

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<v Speaker 1>In on that and read curiosity into it. I read

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity into it, and that that probably was a publicized event. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that there was a message. Necessarily. My

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<v Speaker 1>question is how he knew exactly what door this the

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<v Speaker 1>CEO was walking into and at what time, because he

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<v Speaker 1>literally hit you a position himself across the street. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hopefully if there's if he was able to

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<v Speaker 1>glean information, either intentionally or inadvertently. I think that's part

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<v Speaker 1>of the story. Dave, great call, first time caller. I

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to dan subsequent calls. Thanks very much. Whereabouts

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<v Speaker 1>in May? How far up are you how far up.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm in York.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm in York, Maine and over the border.

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<v Speaker 1>That's easy. You're like a suburb of Boston. Hey, thanks, Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. Thank good night. Let me go to Karen

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<v Speaker 1>a little closer to home in Watertown. Karen, your own

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<v Speaker 8>Go right ahead, Karen, Hi, I have a question for

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<v Speaker 8>both doctors. So, people diagnosed with lime disease, they one

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<v Speaker 8>hundred percent have Barrellia bird or ferry the aterium in

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<v Speaker 8>the system. So what percentage can you estimate of people

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<v Speaker 8>with barellia infection with lime disease commit violent acts?

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<v Speaker 1>Great question, Great question, Karen.

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<v Speaker 5>Homicide on one. Okay, but well, now that's late stage disease,

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<v Speaker 5>but lesser degrees. It is a greater percentage excause of anger,

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<v Speaker 5>late stage disease, I've seen thirty nine percent. But low

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<v Speaker 5>frustration tolerance, you see that fairly often more commonly you

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<v Speaker 5>just seek a little bit of irritability, and many people

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<v Speaker 5>who have it don't have much of a problem. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>one study out of China looks at the global SERA

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<v Speaker 5>positive rate, which is fourteen and a half percent in

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<v Speaker 5>the world now, however, it's even a very small percent

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<v Speaker 5>of that of people get aggressiveness or violence. It's a

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<v Speaker 5>huge number of people, but your average line patient does

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<v Speaker 5>not have aggressiveness. And this affects different people in different ways.

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<v Speaker 5>So we don't want to think everyone has arme disease,

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<v Speaker 5>or no psych symptoms. But other people have react very strongly.

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<v Speaker 5>But who knows. Maybe they're a different co infection, different susceptibility.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me see if doctor Miller wants to take

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<v Speaker 1>a shot at that question.

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor Miller, no, I agree one percent with doctor Brandskill.

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<v Speaker 3>I've also come to the inclusion that whenever that whenever

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<v Speaker 3>And I look at the perpetrators, and most of them

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<v Speaker 3>to show some subtle sign of having had lime disease.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, go ahead, follow up.

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<v Speaker 8>You know the thing is too We have a new

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<v Speaker 8>doctor Branskill can answer to this. We have a twenty

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<v Speaker 8>six year old his prefrontal cortex, especially males, does not develop.

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<v Speaker 8>It's not probably fully developed. And we have a young

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<v Speaker 8>like Dave Main said, like a whistleblower, like he wants

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<v Speaker 8>are denied coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting attention.

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<v Speaker 8>Consider not a cold blooded This is first to be

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<v Speaker 8>murder in my opinion. But but you know we have

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<v Speaker 8>so there's that it's prese of a cortex is not

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<v Speaker 8>fully developed. You can't really anticipate or know that the

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<v Speaker 8>implications of his actions.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, sometimes it's pre funded cortex. One area you may

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<v Speaker 5>think of as cognitive functioning. Now, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 5>that are homicidal if you go in a prison system,

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<v Speaker 5>are often cognitively impaired, but that you can have emotional impairment,

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<v Speaker 5>and both of those can be an added risk. You're

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<v Speaker 5>it's it's someone's achieved at a higher level, which I

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<v Speaker 5>think in this case was occurred. It's hard to say

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<v Speaker 5>there was a lack of development of the prefundal cortex.

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<v Speaker 5>It seems like maybe damage you have circuits that say

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<v Speaker 5>attack and circuits that restraint, and there can be damage

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<v Speaker 5>that gets them out of balance, and that's usually what

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<v Speaker 5>can make someone more aggressive. But there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>different ways to get to that formula. There's contributors, the

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<v Speaker 5>terrence and a cue triggers, and you have to look

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<v Speaker 5>at that formula. It's different formula, different people.

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<v Speaker 9>I got a great, great epic, and if I were

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<v Speaker 9>his defensilar, I would definitely go with this, this Baillia defense.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm as they told, there's no logical reason. There's

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<v Speaker 3>no logical reason. It's tyfinitely out of the blue. It's

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<v Speaker 3>lines of these rates.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's what comes up with a lot of these cases

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<v Speaker 5>often is bizarre and census. That's a phrase. It comes

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<v Speaker 5>up a lot where it's not as well planned out

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<v Speaker 5>orchestrated thing. It's bizarre and census. It's like, who would

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<v Speaker 5>do that? That's just so crazy or absurd it makes

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<v Speaker 5>no sense. That's what I particularly see with these cases.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, comes up again and again.

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<v Speaker 1>Gentlemen, I got it. I got a boss with quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank you called it as always carry,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you much. Talk soon. We've got coming up next.

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<v Speaker 1>We got Tracy and Nashua, Edin, Norwood and Dennis from Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back with my guest, doctor Alfred Miller, doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Brandsfield, and we are talking about lime disease rage

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<v Speaker 1>or simply lime rage, and is it attributable to what

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<v Speaker 1>happened in New York? What's it now? Nearly two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming back on Nightside right after this.

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<v Speaker 2>Now bent to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 2>night Side Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get back to the calls. Going to go to

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<v Speaker 1>Tracy up in New Hampshire. Tracy, you're with doctor Alfred

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<v Speaker 1>Miller and doctor Robert Brinsfield. Go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 8>Hi, I'm a registered nurse. I had late stage disseminated

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<v Speaker 8>line for the better part of twenty years, and I'm

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<v Speaker 8>not homicidal, nor are most of the people and none

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<v Speaker 8>of the people that I've met, and I've met many

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<v Speaker 8>people who have had longe disease fellow patients. So I

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<v Speaker 8>think it's important that we don't leave this segment without

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<v Speaker 8>with it giving people the impression that are listening that

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<v Speaker 8>they need to be afraid of everybody they know who

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<v Speaker 8>has lime disease if they could snap any minute, and

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<v Speaker 8>do something terrible. And the reason that that's important is

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<v Speaker 8>because the incidents of linemen its country is approaching half

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<v Speaker 8>a million people every year they get diagnosed. That's twice

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<v Speaker 8>the incidents of breast cancer. So think about all the

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<v Speaker 8>people that you know with breast cancer. Now double that.

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<v Speaker 8>That's all the people that you know with lime.

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<v Speaker 3>You may not know they have a lie.

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<v Speaker 1>Tracy. I think your point is well made. And I

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<v Speaker 1>suspect that both doctor Miller and doctor Brinsfield would concur.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, very strongly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I agreed. An infection can take many pants, depending

486
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<v Speaker 3>upon what part of the brain, what part of the individual,

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<v Speaker 3>the berrillia concentrate, right, And I think.

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<v Speaker 8>Because it is so common in our society, and you know,

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<v Speaker 8>it's just getting more common, we sort of have to

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<v Speaker 8>normalize it. And and I didn't want people to leave

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<v Speaker 8>and think, well, gosh, now you know all the people

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<v Speaker 8>that know with lime, I need to be afraid of

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<v Speaker 8>them because they're gonna snap like the sky.

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<v Speaker 3>I think. I think, you know, the beryllia can remain

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<v Speaker 3>dormant in the body and then come out. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>For instance, another example would be shingles, you know, chicken pockets, hits,

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<v Speaker 3>you when you're eight six and age six that you

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<v Speaker 3>get shingles so that the organism can be suppressed by

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<v Speaker 3>the immune system or other things, and then bang. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's unpredictable, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>But you it's Tracy, we're an agreement.

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<v Speaker 8>Now you're going to get muscular skeletal pain, not a

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<v Speaker 8>psychiatric reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Tracy, we're ingreble with you. I think the point

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<v Speaker 1>both doctors and I am and am agreeing with you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think you made your point. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was an important point to make. But I need to

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<v Speaker 1>move on and get a couple more calls in here.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, thanks so much, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Tracy, appreciate for what you do. Let me go next

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<v Speaker 1>to I got to go to Dennis in Florida. Dennis,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to be quick for me because they have

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<v Speaker 1>room for you. And one more, go ahead, Dennis.

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<v Speaker 7>Everything comes from something, nothing comes from nothing. And the

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<v Speaker 7>problem that I see is that, in fifty years of

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<v Speaker 7>practicing dentistry and seeing patients with very strange symptoms, when

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<v Speaker 7>it came to just diagnosing a lime disease, the infectious

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<v Speaker 7>disease wrote or there's lime disease, doctors being wax and quax,

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<v Speaker 7>and I don't think that it is. My question is

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<v Speaker 7>how can we get doctor Brandsfield and doctor Miller to

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<v Speaker 7>our new administration to help to make the science and

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<v Speaker 7>history of diseases like the lime pertinent so they can

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<v Speaker 7>be treated and not just blown away. Because if you

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<v Speaker 7>look at history, you see the diseases that have come

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<v Speaker 7>from Mosquitos, like yellow fever and not just his lime disease.

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<v Speaker 7>Everything is coming from it. Yeah, hilarios, and these have

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<v Speaker 7>been catastrophic diseases, and we need to learn from history.

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<v Speaker 7>And in medical school and dental school, they don't teach

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<v Speaker 7>that kind of history. So how can you help doctor

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<v Speaker 7>Brandsfield and doctor Miller get to our new government and

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<v Speaker 7>to the idea of giving this nation a healthier aspect

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<v Speaker 7>for the future. So I think that's the most important thing,

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<v Speaker 7>And so that the doctors and say infects is disease

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<v Speaker 7>and other portions of the medical society can understand that

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<v Speaker 7>this is a real problem and many people.

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<v Speaker 1>Is what we're doing tonight is exactly that I've had

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Miller on my program on many occasions. Is the

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<v Speaker 1>first time that I've had the opportunity to speak with

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Brandsfield and I'm hoping. Look, this radio station has

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<v Speaker 1>heard not only in places like Florida and Maine, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's heard all up anywhere east of the Mississippi River.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's programs like this that hopefully I do not

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<v Speaker 1>have Donald Trump or Elon Musk's private number, but hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>there will be some people who will take note of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what we're doing. Have you ever before, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't recall.

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<v Speaker 7>I have not, but I shall again. And I think

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<v Speaker 7>it's such an important subject, which is why I called

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<v Speaker 7>in to have such pretty doctors as doctor Miller and

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<v Speaker 7>doctor Bransfield on. I think that the world needs to

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<v Speaker 7>understand that when we looked the most if you look history,

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<v Speaker 7>when people looked at pont scum water, they saw pond

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<v Speaker 7>scum water. When John Leewodhook invented the microscope, he saw

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<v Speaker 7>the animals and the bugs that live in there. And

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<v Speaker 7>we need to see the animals and bugs that are

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<v Speaker 7>affecting our health, and perhaps then we can have a

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<v Speaker 7>medical society that is more united in helping their patients

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<v Speaker 7>in all dimensions and not blowing off things as being quackery,

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<v Speaker 7>which is what happened to lyme disease and except for

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<v Speaker 7>the people who have been affected by it in their families.

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<v Speaker 7>The other people don't know, and many of the doctors

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<v Speaker 7>don't either. So I'm hoping that somebody listening take doctor

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<v Speaker 7>Branfield and doctor Miller and bring them to Washington. Let

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<v Speaker 7>him speak with RSK and say what can we do

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<v Speaker 7>and how can we make the medical group people understand

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<v Speaker 7>this better so they can see thet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Dennis, you've made your points really well. I appreciate.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get one more caller in. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you'll continue to listen to Night Side because we try

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<v Speaker 1>to do programs like this, uh and sometimes getting men

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<v Speaker 1>of this caliber not the easiest thing in the world

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Trust me on that. So thank your friend

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<v Speaker 1>for many years. And he's he's he's been on this

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<v Speaker 1>program for many years, and I have tremendous faith in him.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh as he will. I'm sure would have test you

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<v Speaker 1>if if you have a spoke, had a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>speak with him. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 7>I appreciate it. Thank you, You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>You're welcome. Great great compliment, gentlemen, coming from someone in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the medical community. Edward ed in Norwood, Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 1>Ed got to be quick for us.

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<v Speaker 4>We're getting tight on time here, thanks Dan. Uh. I

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<v Speaker 4>guess this for doctor Miller's I heard the three ways

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<v Speaker 4>you can acquire line disease, But is there any way

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<v Speaker 4>like you could get it from your tent like a

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<v Speaker 4>dog at it, you know LNE disease and died of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there any way for the ticks, saint ticks to

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<v Speaker 4>get on to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, is yes, if the dog brings into the

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<v Speaker 3>house picks and they get on you, they're gonna if

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<v Speaker 3>there's a brilliant inside that tick, it's gonna tansfer to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Now is that the ticks ever do like for like myasis,

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<v Speaker 4>with their attached to human body under the skin, they

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<v Speaker 4>can't see him or they always attached to the outside,

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<v Speaker 4>we can see them.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, repeat.

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<v Speaker 1>That they attached, they attached the outside, They burrow into

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<v Speaker 1>the into the skin. Go ahead. Doctor's question was how

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<v Speaker 1>to ticks invade the body?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's great. It made and made from the outside.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I realized that. It's just since shortly after my

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<v Speaker 4>dog died five years ago, I've had an infection off

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<v Speaker 4>and on where it seems like there's something that has

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<v Speaker 4>borrowed onto my skin. They've done the tested me flying

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<v Speaker 4>all kinds of different things, and uh, most of the

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<v Speaker 4>time they just kind of blow it off, like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you feel like they're not.

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<v Speaker 3>But the testing, the testing is critical. Every test for

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<v Speaker 3>a line disease or any brillian infection uses anti looking

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<v Speaker 3>for antibodies, and this organism can bury itself deep into

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<v Speaker 3>your tissue and become a microscopic cyst and it no

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<v Speaker 3>longer challenges your immune system, so there are no antibodies.

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<v Speaker 3>So the blood tests come back negative. But if you

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<v Speaker 3>open up that cyst and bring out the spira keep

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<v Speaker 3>expose it to the immune system, suddenly the test is bright,

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<v Speaker 3>bright positive.

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<v Speaker 4>Now it's funny you say that, because I did acquire

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<v Speaker 4>a system on my stomach and did a PA checked

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<v Speaker 4>with the ultrasound and just said, it's just a lump

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<v Speaker 4>vatue lump, but I feel it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me, let me do this. We can't diagnose over

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<v Speaker 1>the year, but doctor Miller has talked to many of

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<v Speaker 1>my listeners over the years, and you can find doctor Miller.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Miller easiest way for people to contact you directly

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<v Speaker 1>if you would.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all lower case letters. Doctor al Miller, No punctuating

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<v Speaker 3>doctor al Miller at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>One more quick question.

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<v Speaker 1>No, if we don't have time for another quick question

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<v Speaker 1>because it's eleven o'clock, so I got to let you go.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to do this to you, but it's doctor

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<v Speaker 1>al Miller and my l E. R at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yea, that's okay, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel free to contact gentlemen. I would love to keep

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<v Speaker 1>you into the next hour, but I know that you're

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<v Speaker 1>both quite busy and I don't want it. We pose,

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<v Speaker 1>but thank you so much for your time tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, Thank you Dan for doing this. It helps

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of people. And I think one closing the

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<v Speaker 5>mark is I think line more commonly causes disability. That's

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<v Speaker 5>the greater problem with it. And I think there are

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<v Speaker 5>other infections other than mine that are more commonly associated

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<v Speaker 5>with violence. And I'm looking at globally with with CONFIICT zones, World,

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<v Speaker 5>Middle East, Holy Lean, Central America, and there's I think

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<v Speaker 5>there's other infections there that contribute to making violence the

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<v Speaker 5>endemic in those parts of the world that are not

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<v Speaker 5>fun right, probably Brelli or some other parasitic infection.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to have both of you back. At some point,

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<v Speaker 1>I know i'll have doctor millerback, Doctor Bransfield. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>that you'll become a regular as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, i'd be happy to thank.

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<v Speaker 1>You both both very very much. Thank you, gentlemen. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the line and you'd like to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>lyme disease, I'm up for it. Six one, seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 1>four ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten

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<v Speaker 1>thirty Back on Night's side right after this
