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<v Speaker 1>Michael the news break says that the Iranians moved most

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<v Speaker 1>of the uranium or the nuclear products before the air strike.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Israel had air dominance.

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<v Speaker 1>Why didn't they take out all those trucks.

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<v Speaker 2>This sounds like a cluster.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's walk through that, because I spent probably too much

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<v Speaker 3>time last night trying to figure out what, what do

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<v Speaker 3>we know or what's being said about the strikes on

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<v Speaker 3>Iran's nuclear facilities back on June twenty second. Remember it

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<v Speaker 3>targeted three sites, Fordeau, the Tons and Isfahan, Operation Midnight

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<v Speaker 3>Hammer B two Spirit stealth bombers, fourteen bunker buster bombs,

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<v Speaker 3>the GBU fifty seven massive ordnance penetrators. We had a

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<v Speaker 3>submarin that more I think more than two dozen Tomahawk

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<v Speaker 3>cruise missiles. And then Trump comes out. The President comes

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<v Speaker 3>out and claims the strikes quote completely and totally obliterated

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<v Speaker 3>Rand's nuclear enrichment capabilities. But then when I start digging,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not yet willing to fall on one side

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<v Speaker 3>or the other, and let me explain why, because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not trying to be you know, wishy washy here, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not trying to be.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the lawyer well, you know, consider this.

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<v Speaker 3>But on the other hand, it's because I know how

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<v Speaker 3>intelligence reports are given. I know how intelligence is collected,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know that sometimes intelligence is the facts may

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<v Speaker 3>be there, but nobody asks the right questions, and so

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<v Speaker 3>the summary, the briefing doesn't get to the heart of

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<v Speaker 3>what you really want to know. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>whether that's the case here or not. And I also

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<v Speaker 3>don't know whether politics is playing a part of this

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<v Speaker 3>or not. So I just went through every publicly available

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<v Speaker 3>source that I can have access to. I ask a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of people that might have some tangential knowledge about

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<v Speaker 3>it to find out what's real and what's not real.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's just think in terms of damage assessment, and

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<v Speaker 3>let's go first to FOURDEH, because that's around's most fortified

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<v Speaker 3>nuclear facility, very deep, with than a mountaineer calm, and

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<v Speaker 3>it is designed specifically to withstand air strikes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an uranium enrichment.

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<v Speaker 3>Site capable of holding up to two thousand, nine hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and seventy six centrifuges. It is probably the most critical

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<v Speaker 3>part of Iran's nuclear program because of the hardened structure.

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<v Speaker 3>So on that particular site, we deployed twelve mops on

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<v Speaker 3>four doh each wayh you know, thirty thousand pounds each

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<v Speaker 3>capable of penetrating up to sixty meters of earth or

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen meters of concrete. We dropped twelve of those twelve

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<v Speaker 3>times well sixty meters depending on how many you know

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<v Speaker 3>initially of earth, and then twelve times however many that

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<v Speaker 3>you know through eighteen meters of concrete. Maxar Technologies, part

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<v Speaker 3>of which is actually Colorado, I think. Their satellite imagery

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<v Speaker 3>captured on June twenty second shows six large craters clustered

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<v Speaker 3>around two entry points on the ridge above the facility,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you see dustined debris scattered all across the

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<v Speaker 3>mountain side. Tunnel entrances appear on the satellite imagery to

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<v Speaker 3>be blocked now because of the strike shock waves or

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<v Speaker 3>where there are preemptive Iranian actions to seal the entryways. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really sure it makes any difference. The entry points

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<v Speaker 3>appear to be shut down, sealed off. So what's the

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<v Speaker 3>damage assessment? Well, the damage as assessment itself is the

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<v Speaker 3>significant surface damage craters blocked tunnel entrances. The so called

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<v Speaker 3>experts suggest that the mops likely targeted ventilation structures or

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<v Speaker 3>other infrastructure on the surface to maximize penetration. The extent

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<v Speaker 3>of the damage to the underground centrifuge halls and the

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<v Speaker 3>enrichment equipment, honestly, I think remains unclear now. The director

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<v Speaker 3>of the International Atomic Energy Agency, the IAEA, a guy

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<v Speaker 3>by the name of Raphael Grossi, he has stated, and

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<v Speaker 3>I quote, no one could be able to tell you

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<v Speaker 3>how much it has been damaged underground, as the IAEA

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<v Speaker 3>inspectors have not yet accessed the site. The facility's depth

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<v Speaker 3>estimated that forty five to ninety meters of bedrock. An

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<v Speaker 3>iron's use of high strength concrete concrete may have limited

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<v Speaker 3>the bomb's effectiveness. I emphasized may have because we don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>There are a few experts. Jeffrey Lewis from Middlebury Institute

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<v Speaker 3>of International Studies. He says the strikes did not appear

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<v Speaker 3>to target RAN's highly enriched uranium stockpiles, which are likely

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<v Speaker 3>sorted underground tunnels. Now, I tried to figure out what

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<v Speaker 3>was he talking about, tunnels inside the facility, Tunnels that

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, tentacles somehow go outside, still beneath the mountain,

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<v Speaker 3>still within the mountain, but outside, you know, like like

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<v Speaker 3>imagine a big giant room in the middle, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what would to be forty five or ninety meters below bedrock,

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<v Speaker 3>and then from their tentacles out in those titles they

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<v Speaker 3>throw of those titles.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's what he says.

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<v Speaker 3>The Institute for Science and International Security YAHOO by the

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<v Speaker 3>name of I shouldn't say YEAHO docause David Albright. He

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<v Speaker 3>suggests that thousands of the uninstalled centrifuges may remain intact elsewhere, which,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, he argues, would allow Iran to reconstitute its

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<v Speaker 3>enrichment capacity. The only Israeli commentary is anonymous speakers that

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<v Speaker 3>describe the damage as serious but not complete destruction, which

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<v Speaker 3>obviously would contradict Trump's claim of literated. And of course

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<v Speaker 3>it gets to the definition of obliterated, which in my

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<v Speaker 3>vernacular is under destruction, totally destroyed. Aron's Atomic Energy Organization says, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>just minor damage. But what would you what would you

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<v Speaker 3>expect them to say? So for FEDOR, it's sustained severe

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<v Speaker 3>surface damage, probably disruption to underground operations. The core underground

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<v Speaker 3>enrichment capabilities, including the centrifuges and the uranium stockpiles may

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<v Speaker 3>not have been fully destroyed, and part of the facility

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<v Speaker 3>may remain partially intact. But is it accessible and is

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<v Speaker 3>it operational? My guess is that it is not operational.

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<v Speaker 3>It's certainly probably not accessible at all, but that doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>mean that parts of it inside the very core may

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<v Speaker 3>some of it may remain undamaged. It just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know when you blow something up that you know

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<v Speaker 3>you have pieces and parts whatever that remain intact and

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<v Speaker 3>other pieces are just shredded. So that's my assessment of

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<v Speaker 3>for door Matons. The Isfahan province now, it is Iran's

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<v Speaker 3>primary uranium enrichment site. It has both above and underground facilities.

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<v Speaker 3>It housed cascades ofentrifuges, including those at sixty percent enriched,

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<v Speaker 3>and that was what some have described as the cornerstone

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<v Speaker 3>of the urine Iranian nuclear program. So two mops were

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<v Speaker 3>dropped into Tons targeting in an underground centrifuge facility. Israel had

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<v Speaker 3>drop bombs prior to that, back a couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 3>while she s maybe nine or ten days earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>If it already.

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<v Speaker 3>Damaged the above ground infrastructure, including the Iranian's pilot fuel

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<v Speaker 3>enrichment plant. And they also attacked all the electrical substations.

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<v Speaker 3>So what's the damage assessment? Again, you go to Maxar Technologies.

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<v Speaker 3>You can find all these photos online. Significant damage to

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<v Speaker 3>the above ground structures, including that facility that was in

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<v Speaker 3>producing the sixty percent enriched uranium. The IAEA confirmed that

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<v Speaker 3>the above ground part was destroyed, the electrical infrastructure, all

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<v Speaker 3>the substations, the power supplied buildings, all the backup generators

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<v Speaker 3>they were and they used the term obliterated, which I

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<v Speaker 3>just found interesting. So the IAEA says that in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of the toons, the infrastructure was obliterated, But what about

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<v Speaker 3>the underground. Go back to the IAEA, Grossie, the same

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<v Speaker 3>director director general, I think is its title. Notice that

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<v Speaker 3>the sudden loss of external power would have severely damaged,

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<v Speaker 3>if not destroyed, altogether, the underground centrifuge cascades. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the IAEA destroyed all, you know, probably destroyed altogether.

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<v Speaker 3>Now what got interesting was and the Wall Street Journal

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<v Speaker 3>has a headline today. I've not yet read the story,

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<v Speaker 3>but the let me just pull it up, just saying

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<v Speaker 3>team what the headline is? Wall Street Journal today has

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<v Speaker 3>a headline. The reason this is important, is Hegsath? The

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<v Speaker 3>Defense Secretary says FBI is probing leak of Iran strike report.

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<v Speaker 3>The preliminary preliminary report said strikes on three Iranian nuclear

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<v Speaker 3>facilities step back to RAN's ambitions by only a few months.

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<v Speaker 3>The Israel Iran cease fire appeared to hold for another

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<v Speaker 3>So apparently this information I'm about to share with you

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<v Speaker 3>is information that was supposedly leaked and now the FBI

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<v Speaker 3>is investigating it.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is that?

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<v Speaker 3>A Defense intelligence agency, the DEA, they released a report

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<v Speaker 3>or leaked a report, or somebody got a report on

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<v Speaker 3>June twenty four, that's yesterday, which indicated that core components,

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<v Speaker 3>including some centrifuges, remained intact and could be restarted within months.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are That's the only general quote that I can

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<v Speaker 3>find about the destruction there. So let's go to the

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<v Speaker 3>Institute for Science and International Security. A guy by the

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<v Speaker 3>name of Spencer Farragassa estimated that reconstituting that which could

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<v Speaker 3>remain intact and which could be restarted could take years.

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<v Speaker 3>But he is the one that has suggested that the

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<v Speaker 3>Uranians might have uninstalled centrifuges stored elsewhere, reducing a setback,

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<v Speaker 3>not that they moved any He in particular says that

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<v Speaker 3>they may have uninstalled centrifuges that were stored elsewhere. They

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<v Speaker 3>emphasize that the strikes did not target enriched uranium stockpiles,

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<v Speaker 3>which could and may have been moved to covert sites. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the Iranians, of course, you know, know, nothing happened, kind

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<v Speaker 3>of Bagdad Bob here, nothing happened. So I would just

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<v Speaker 3>conclude this Natan suffered very extensive damage, particularly to the

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<v Speaker 3>above ground infrastructure and likely to the underground centrifuges because

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<v Speaker 3>of the power disruptions, because those centrifuges need remain powered

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<v Speaker 3>up and if you destroy the power source, then you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to damage the centrifuges. There may be some underground

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<v Speaker 3>capabilities and some uninstalled equipment that may remain intact, but

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<v Speaker 3>that will that limits the long term impact, and that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't define or I can't find any definition that if

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<v Speaker 3>you took those First of all, let's go back again

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<v Speaker 3>about natons. I don't believe they have access to the

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<v Speaker 3>internal core facility. Now, that will take time to get

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<v Speaker 3>access to that core facility. Once they get in there,

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<v Speaker 3>they may or may not find that there is some

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<v Speaker 3>destruction and it may be obliterated, it may not, but

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<v Speaker 3>we just don't know yet. So some underground capabilities and

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<v Speaker 3>some uninstalled equipment may remain intact, which over I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>a period of time which I'm not willing to define,

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<v Speaker 3>they could reconstitute.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Fahn.

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<v Speaker 3>Is a key nuclear research and production center. It housed

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<v Speaker 3>the uranium conversion facility, fuel fabrication plants, and again another

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<v Speaker 3>storage area for enriched uranium. It is probably the least

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<v Speaker 3>fortified of the three structures. However, it is critical for

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<v Speaker 3>preparing raw materials and converting uranium into a form for enrichment,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's kind of like it's the least secure, the

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<v Speaker 3>least fortified, and is the initial starting point for their

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<v Speaker 3>conversion process. It was hit by more than two dozen

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<v Speaker 3>Tomahawk cruise missiles. The missiles targeted key surface infrastructure. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>Israel had hit that site earlier in June, damaged four buildings,

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<v Speaker 3>including the uranium conversion facility. So what's the damage assessment? Again,

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<v Speaker 3>go back to MAXR and their satellite imagery. It shows

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<v Speaker 3>heavily damaged buildings, infrastructure, and again the IAEA General Director

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<v Speaker 3>or Director General confirms extensive damage to six additional buildings,

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<v Speaker 3>including a fuel rod production facility. The strikes targeted the

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<v Speaker 3>facilities that with minimal or no nuclear material, so of

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<v Speaker 3>course there was no radiological release. By the way, I

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<v Speaker 3>would just make a comment here that the IAEA says

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<v Speaker 3>they've seen no release of radiation anywhere, and people have

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<v Speaker 3>jumped to the conclusion that means that wasn't damaged. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's erroneous because if you have the facilities that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, ninety meters below ground, all contained within concrete,

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<v Speaker 3>that's like a nuclear reactor, and so if you then

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<v Speaker 3>bomb that and everything is now piled on top of

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<v Speaker 3>that concrete, than the concrete itself is now damaged and

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<v Speaker 3>is piled onto the uranium, then you're probably not going

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<v Speaker 3>to have any radiation exposure. You're not going to have

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<v Speaker 3>any radiation leaks, because that's how nuclear reactors are designed

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<v Speaker 3>that you know, it keeps it all contained, and if

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<v Speaker 3>more contained. But that's just my assessment. They go back

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<v Speaker 3>to the Defense Intelligence Agency, they say the underground structures,

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<v Speaker 3>including storage for the highly enriched uranium, were largely unaffected. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I made the mistake. That's not a mistake. I decided

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<v Speaker 3>to see what are some of these people saying on

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<v Speaker 3>go back to one account back on June fifteenth, claim

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<v Speaker 3>that a key facility for converting ninety percent enriched uranium

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<v Speaker 3>gas to metal, which is a step weaponization, that it

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<v Speaker 3>was damaged. But I can't find that verified anywhere. Lewis

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<v Speaker 3>and Albright, those two experts I cited earlier, they emphasized

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<v Speaker 3>that the strikes did not destroy the enriched uranium stockpiles,

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<v Speaker 3>which they say may have not that they were, but

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<v Speaker 3>they may have been moved to other secret locations, and

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<v Speaker 3>of course the uraniums. Once again, well, there's nothing wrong here.

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<v Speaker 3>So I would conclude that in terms of ISFAHAN, it

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<v Speaker 3>did sustain severe damage to the above ground infrastructure, but

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<v Speaker 3>the underground storage and some of the critical components may emphasize,

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<v Speaker 3>may remain intact. But that may be so what because

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<v Speaker 3>ISFAHAN their role in uranium conversion and storage makes it

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<v Speaker 3>less central to enrichment. That means it's still important, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's not that sign Now, what is the president, what's

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<v Speaker 3>of the overall damage.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where it gets dicey Michael.

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<v Speaker 4>It seems perfectly fitting for Trump to use a term

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<v Speaker 4>like total obliteration for the destruction and Iran. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>what else is you going to say, big, beautiful obliteration.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, that's just Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree wholeheartedly, it is just Trump. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's worth because any anyone who wants to

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<v Speaker 3>use that language against him by showing that there was

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<v Speaker 3>not and I think it's redundant to say complete the

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<v Speaker 3>blitterate because obliteration implies that you've totally destroyed something. They're

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<v Speaker 3>going to use that against him politically, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's what's going on, which is why I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to go through and see what I could find

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<v Speaker 3>from whatever sources I can access, to see whether or

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<v Speaker 3>not we've really stopped the Iranians or have we paused

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<v Speaker 3>the Iranians? Have we slowed them down? I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a whole spectrum of possibilities here. And I just again

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<v Speaker 3>because the cabal, and in this case, I mean every

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<v Speaker 3>aspect of the cabal, the you know, the tech companies,

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<v Speaker 3>all of the ruling elites, Democrat and Republican They're all

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<v Speaker 3>over the place, and the media is all over the place,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I thought one thing I would try to

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<v Speaker 3>do today is just give objective, an objective survey of

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<v Speaker 3>what I really think has happened, which leads to the

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<v Speaker 3>next thing I wanted to do is just let's look

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<v Speaker 3>at the overall damage assessment from the administration, independent sources

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<v Speaker 3>and the IAEA satellite imagery, and what was what were

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<v Speaker 3>the Iranians doing beforehand? So, as you point out, both

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<v Speaker 3>Trump and the Deaf sect have said that the strikes

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<v Speaker 3>obliterated the facilities, and Trump went on, of course, to

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<v Speaker 3>your point, describing the operation as a spectacular military success.

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<v Speaker 3>But remember that the next day when I played the

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<v Speaker 3>briefing from I played the entire eight minutes of General

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<v Speaker 3>dan Kine determine the Joint Chiefs. When you think back

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<v Speaker 3>on that, he was actually more measured. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 3>to play the whole thing again, except he said this

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<v Speaker 3>that all three sites sustained quote extremely severe damage and destruction,

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<v Speaker 3>but that a full battle damage assessment was pending. And

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<v Speaker 3>then he went on to say, generally speaking to until

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<v Speaker 3>we get that full battle damage assessment, we won't know

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<v Speaker 3>the extent of the extremely severe damage and destruction, which is,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, slightly different than what Trump said, but again

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<v Speaker 3>not surprising the Defense Intelligence Agency. I've got this under

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<v Speaker 3>independent assessments, but I only say that because the DA

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<v Speaker 3>having worked with them, they really do try to be objecting. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>they had a preliminary classified report that was leeure somehow

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<v Speaker 3>obtained yesterday by CNN, The Washington Post, New York Times,

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<v Speaker 3>the Guardian, the usual suspects in the cabal. Now I've

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<v Speaker 3>not seen the report itself, but they conclude that the

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<v Speaker 3>strikes did not destroy core components of the Iranian nuclear program,

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<v Speaker 3>including the centrifuges and the highly enretigrate uranium stockpiles. They

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<v Speaker 3>say the program was set back by a few months

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<v Speaker 3>tops that's a quote from the Times and others, rather

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<v Speaker 3>than years. They do say that the entrances to Fordeau

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<v Speaker 3>and the Times were sealed, but that doesn't necessarily mean

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<v Speaker 3>that the internal underground structures collapsed entirely. Those two experts

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<v Speaker 3>fort Lewis and Albright, they argue that the strikes were incomplete,

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<v Speaker 3>because they still argue their contention is that the Iranians

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<v Speaker 3>likely moved the enriched uranium and retains uninstalled centrifuges that

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<v Speaker 3>were never put into use, so they could take the

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<v Speaker 3>enriched uranium, use those in the uninstalled centrifuges and start

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<v Speaker 3>back up again. The IAEA reported, as I said earlier,

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<v Speaker 3>no off site radiation increases, no major radiological release grows.

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<v Speaker 2>See.

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<v Speaker 3>The Director General noted significant damage at all three sites,

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<v Speaker 3>and he says the toms's above ground facilities were destroyed

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<v Speaker 3>and potential centrifuge damage underground, and they too, as I

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<v Speaker 3>said earlier, waiting to access underground access or at least

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<v Speaker 3>access as far as they can get so they can

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<v Speaker 3>do a damage assessment. And the satellite imagery both from

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<v Speaker 3>Maxar which I've quoted earlier and Planet Labs PBC, does

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<v Speaker 3>show all the surface damage, the craters, the debris, the

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<v Speaker 3>destroyed buildings at all three sides, But obviously that cannot

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<v Speaker 3>show the underground damage, so that's going to be harder

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<v Speaker 3>to gauge because of the depth and the fortification. It

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<v Speaker 3>was interesting that I found satellite and you may have

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<v Speaker 3>seen these, the satellite images from days before the strikes.

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<v Speaker 3>They showed this unusual what they call unusual truck activity

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<v Speaker 3>at four dou Now some will argue that suggests that

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<v Speaker 3>the Uranians were moving enriched uranium or equipment, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 3>a senior IRGC, the Iranian Guard Corps, they actually claim

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<v Speaker 3>back on June twentieth, that all enriched uranium was transferred.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that's unverified, and it's unbelievable because I would expect

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<v Speaker 3>them to say that. But I've looked closely at those trucks.

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<v Speaker 3>Those trucks, now this is concluded. I'm obviously not an expert,

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<v Speaker 3>but those trucks don't look like the kinds of trucks

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<v Speaker 3>that you would use if you're going to be transformed, transforming,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're going to be transferring enrich uranium, either in

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<v Speaker 3>centrifuges or in rich uranium and whatever containers they keep

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<v Speaker 3>them in and centrifuges, those just didn't look like the

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<v Speaker 3>kind of trucks you would use. I would think you

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<v Speaker 3>would have, you know, some sort of more sophisticated equipment

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<v Speaker 3>to move them. So the uranium preparations, based on my

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<v Speaker 3>past experience with.

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<v Speaker 2>The Iraq WMD issue.

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<v Speaker 3>In which we had intelligence that said some of this

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<v Speaker 3>may have been moved to both Russia and into Syria.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, I still believe to this day that some

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<v Speaker 3>of the some of the WMD, particularly the nerve gases

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<v Speaker 3>and others, probably were moved into Syria because the Syrians

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<v Speaker 3>eventually use those nerve gases against the Kurds and others.

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<v Speaker 3>So I wouldn't be surprised if the Iranians did something

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<v Speaker 3>like the Iraqis did, and you know, in anticipation of

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<v Speaker 3>some strike either by the United States or by the Israelis,

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<v Speaker 3>may indeed move some of it. But I'm want to

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<v Speaker 3>emphasize the only basis on which that claim is made

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<v Speaker 3>is the satellite imagery showing trucks lined up, which they

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<v Speaker 3>claim to be as unusual. I have no clue whether

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<v Speaker 3>it's unusual, unusual or not, but there were indeed trucks

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<v Speaker 3>in some of the satellite imagery days before the strike,

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<v Speaker 3>and they may have been doing something. They may have

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<v Speaker 3>been reinforcing, They may have been bringing more dirt in

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<v Speaker 3>for all I know. But that is the extent of

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<v Speaker 3>the uranium preparations enriched uranium stockpiles. According to the Defense

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<v Speaker 3>Intelligence Agency and all their experts in their analysis, they

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<v Speaker 3>are being quoted saying that Iran moved much of its

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<v Speaker 3>highly indur itched uranium before the strikes, possibly to secret facilities,

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<v Speaker 3>and Lewis, again from I forget whether he was from

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<v Speaker 3>which group he was from, noted that significant amounts of

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<v Speaker 3>this in uranium still exists, but the location remains unknown.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>That stockpile, if it really is intact, would allow Aran

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<v Speaker 3>to potentially enrich to ninety percent according to the experts,

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<v Speaker 3>in days two weeks, using any surviving or covert centrifuges

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<v Speaker 3>that they may have hidden elsewhere. So, while the Tonza's

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<v Speaker 3>centrifuges were probably I shouldn't say likely damaged, the Uranians

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<v Speaker 3>probably have uninstalled centrifuges stored elsewhere. I think they probably

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<v Speaker 3>have done that simply because I know that we do

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<v Speaker 3>that sort of thing. You know, we have just to

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<v Speaker 3>take something that's not That's the total opposite pharmaceuticals. We

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<v Speaker 3>have pharmaceutical stockpiles, and some are in incredibly secure facilities

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<v Speaker 3>and some are not in so secure facilities in order

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<v Speaker 3>to have easier access. Well, if we would do with

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<v Speaker 3>that with pharmaceuticals, I know we do that with other

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<v Speaker 3>dangerous things, Well, why wouldn't the Uranians do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>We do know that the Iranians were well, I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>say we know. It was reported so to the extent

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<v Speaker 3>that the reports are correct, that Iran had had begun

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<v Speaker 3>constructing some new underground centri feud facilities near Neatons before

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<v Speaker 3>the strikes, and that area was not targeted. And again

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<v Speaker 3>the Defense Intelligence Agency reported that Iran may maintain really

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<v Speaker 3>small covert enrichment sites that they purposely put together, so

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<v Speaker 3>they would have some redundancy, some you know, like having

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<v Speaker 3>a generator, you have some ability to keep the power on,

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<v Speaker 3>to keep the process going, albeit at a smaller, more

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<v Speaker 3>discreet level. There is one weaponization expert, Kenneth Pollock from

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<v Speaker 3>the Middle East Institute. He's quoted as emphasizing that the

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<v Speaker 3>Iranian nuclear knowledge is very widespread and that you cannot

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<v Speaker 3>eliminate the knowledge by bombing. Now we know that we've

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<v Speaker 3>killed some scientists. We know we killed, or shouldn't say

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<v Speaker 3>we although there may be some of the facilities. We

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<v Speaker 3>know that the Israelis targeted some of they had scientists.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's all I can find reported is that the

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<v Speaker 3>is Rayley's targeted and did assassinate some of the key

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<v Speaker 3>scientific experts that were in charge of the programs. How

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<v Speaker 3>many assistants did they have. How much knowledge do the

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<v Speaker 3>assistants have Are they capable of stepping into the place

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<v Speaker 3>of those that were assassinated. I can't find any publicly

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<v Speaker 3>available information about that, but I would think again, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to build redundancy into your program, you would

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<v Speaker 3>have some of that. You would have some other scientists

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<v Speaker 3>that you know, maybe are just you know, they're fill ins,

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<v Speaker 3>they are understudies, and they follow along to see what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on. So I think we've set it back. The

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<v Speaker 3>question is whether we've obliterated it, totally destroyed it or not.

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<v Speaker 3>And if we accept that there may be redundant sites

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<v Speaker 3>on a smaller scale that remain untouched, then technically, in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of obliterating are we talking about obliterating those three sites?

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<v Speaker 3>Are we talking about obliterating their nuclear program? If it's

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<v Speaker 3>the latter, we probably haven't done that.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael, nothing will change in Iran, and tell there's a

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<v Speaker 1>regime change. When that happens, we have a change of leadership,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a possibility of peace. Until then, they're just

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<v Speaker 1>going to keep working away on, you know, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>kill Americans and Jews.

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<v Speaker 3>Their cockroaches, and that is precisely what they will do

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<v Speaker 3>sixty nine to twenty seven rites that might so we

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<v Speaker 3>can drop a bomb from thirty thousand feet into a

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<v Speaker 3>washing machine, but we can't watch where some trucks went.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't believe it, Well you shouldn't believe it. The satellite

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<v Speaker 3>imagery that's taken by our satellites is constant, so we

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<v Speaker 3>know of the movement, which is why I go back

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<v Speaker 3>to the point about the trucks. The trucks just don't

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<v Speaker 3>period of me to be the type of trucks that

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<v Speaker 3>we would that they would use, or anybody would use

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<v Speaker 3>to transport that kind of dangerous equipment and supplies. So

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe that things removed, although they may have tried.

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<v Speaker 3>The bottom line would be this. The strikes back on

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<v Speaker 3>the twenty second indeed cause severe damage to their nuclear

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<v Speaker 3>facilities at those three sites, particularly to the above ground structure,

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<v Speaker 3>and I believe to the underground components, but I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think that it was obliterated completely destroyed.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of that blow ground once and if they can.

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<v Speaker 3>Get access to it, can be salvaged, can be used again.

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<v Speaker 3>So the program was set back for a period of time,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't have the expertise to say whether it's

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<v Speaker 3>months or years or whatever it is. But to the

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<v Speaker 3>talk back point, I do believe this. The Molas are

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<v Speaker 3>like cockroaches. They can survive anything, and they will continue

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<v Speaker 3>to survive, and when they can, they'll sit it out. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>if if Masade or the diaspora outside the country can

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<v Speaker 3>get some sort of revolution going, then we have to

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<v Speaker 3>support that because to your point, the way to ensure

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<v Speaker 3>that they do not reconstitute, restart or pick up the

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<v Speaker 3>program where it left off is regime change. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>advocating boots on the ground, but I am advocating that

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<v Speaker 3>Right now the Molas are in I mean, they have

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<v Speaker 3>no air force, the IRGC has been, their leadership is

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<v Speaker 3>completely disrupted.

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<v Speaker 2>There have to be some.

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<v Speaker 3>Within the IRGC that are willing and waiting to defect,

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<v Speaker 3>but there needs to be some tipping point that will

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<v Speaker 3>get them doing that, and Masad in the Israelis are

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<v Speaker 3>in the best place to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my take on the damage assessment.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think we ought to all just recognize that

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<v Speaker 3>probably not obliterated, Yes, sat back not totally destroyed, and

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<v Speaker 3>the only way to completely stop it.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if we can, even if it was obliterated.

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<v Speaker 3>If they remain in powered, they'll turn to their allies

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<v Speaker 3>and start it all over again. May take years, but

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<v Speaker 3>they will
