WEBVTT 1 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:19.559 At a. 2 00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:28.879 Book. 3 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:29.519 Before we bring on Tonight's guest, I want to put 4 00:01:29.519 --> 00:01:32.560 something out there for you. For some time now, since 5 00:01:32.599 --> 00:01:35.879 I started hearing live stream episodes, I've seen comments put 6 00:01:35.879 --> 00:01:40.680 out there where people seemingly think that I've stopped putting 7 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:44.359 out regular episodes of the show. They've made comments about, oh, 8 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:46.799 it's good to see you posting episodes again. Well, I 9 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:50.200 never did stop. Apparently, if you think that, then you're 10 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:53.879 missing all the live stream episodes. Most of the time anymore, 11 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:58.799 I am hearing live stream episodes with occasional pre recorded 12 00:01:58.840 --> 00:02:02.400 episodes sprinkled. 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Now, Tonight's guest wishes to remain anonymous, 23 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:40.639 and with that in mind, I'm just gonna call her Lynn. Lynn. 24 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:41.759 Welcome to the show. 25 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:44.360 Thank you, Vic Well. 26 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:47.439 Thanks for being here. Lynn. Please give us a brief 27 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:48.520 bio on yourself. 28 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:56.840 I've spent most of my life in Alaska. Oh, I've 29 00:02:56.840 --> 00:02:59.520 been in Uluwer forty eight for a little bit because 30 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:03.599 I was caring for a very sick family member who 31 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:08.000 just passed away. I lost her five months ago. 32 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:11.520 Well, like I told you before we started this, I'm 33 00:03:11.520 --> 00:03:14.599 so sorry to hear about you losing her, but I'm 34 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:17.280 sure she's so proud of you. And don't forget you're 35 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:19.719 going to see her again. I know it's not easy, 36 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:22.800 it's not easy at all, but you will see her again, 37 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:26.560 So please try to keep that in mind. Considering how 38 00:03:26.599 --> 00:03:28.800 you spent most of your life in Alaska, do you 39 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:31.080 see that as being a plus or a drawback? 40 00:03:31.879 --> 00:03:32.479 Plus? 41 00:03:33.080 --> 00:03:35.319 Yeah, Alaska is a beautiful place. I've been there a 42 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:38.400 few times and it's just amazingly beautiful. 43 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:45.560 Yeah, it's like another place on the earth. You only 44 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:50.080 place I love more than only only I think it 45 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:54.719 means our said individual means more to me than Alaska 46 00:03:54.800 --> 00:04:00.400 was my mom, and that's the only person who ever 47 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:01.680 gotten me out of Alaska. 48 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:05.719 Very unique, So I can understand why you would say that. 49 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:09.080 And speaking of you living there, from what I understand, 50 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:12.319 you worked as a longshoreman while you were there. What 51 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:14.960 was the most frightening close call that you had while 52 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:16.120 doing that kind of work? 53 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:24.120 Well, almost got hit by a palette see what else. Yeah, 54 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:29.040 we practice a lot of safety. We're pretty safe. I 55 00:04:29.079 --> 00:04:33.800 would say more dangerous was when I commercial fish. Yeah, 56 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:40.079 that was dangerous, but long showing isn't really dangerous. There's 57 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:44.879 a lot of safety protocols in place compare to take 58 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:50.079 commercial fishing. But there's a reason you don't see a 59 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:55.519 lot of old decans working on boats because once you 60 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:59.959 get a certain age, you can't do it. You can't 61 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:07.319 take the long hours. Yeah, you know, I mean physically demanding. 62 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:11.480 I mean you don't worry about what's in the water 63 00:05:11.519 --> 00:05:15.319 because the water will kill you. And when you put 64 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:18.639 on the survival suits, because your boat's going down and 65 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:21.399 you better pray to God there's another boat close by 66 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:25.519 to save your butt because you only last salon in 67 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:29.680 those suits. Our captain used to tie us getting into them. 68 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:33.600 Yeah, those can be some really bad waters. I can 69 00:05:33.639 --> 00:05:35.720 only imagine one must be like to put a suit 70 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:38.360 like that on and have to step off the deck 71 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:40.720 of a boat and into the water and there's no 72 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:42.160 going back to you never had. 73 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:45.319 To do it. I was on a very good boat, 74 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:50.040 very well maintained boat. But if I had to do it, 75 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:55.399 I was prepared to. When I heard about that show 76 00:05:55.480 --> 00:06:00.439 that they is on the you know, TV, putting somebody 77 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:02.879 in a survival suit and floating them across because they 78 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:07.480 wear that hand short, I went, oh my god, why 79 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:12.759 would they do that. You either work at that hand 80 00:06:12.839 --> 00:06:18.120 short and then get that member, you know, after you 81 00:06:18.199 --> 00:06:21.480 finish yourself, and or you just drop everything and you 82 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:26.920 get them in the Dutch and out on I mean immediately, 83 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:32.959 you know. I mean, there's no getting a crew member 84 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:39.680 from another boat, and it's no less bring or no, 85 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:43.519 we don't do that. Just one example of that show 86 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:45.800 is kind of a fallacy. 87 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:50.079 Yeah, sure, it does look like a totally different way 88 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:52.439 of life. I can only imagine what it must be 89 00:06:52.600 --> 00:06:53.720 like to do that kind of work. 90 00:06:55.000 --> 00:07:01.519 That's not realistic that show. A real working boat wouldn't 91 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:05.000 do the things that they do on this show. I 92 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:08.560 mean some of it. Yeah, But the thing like putting 93 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:11.560 that guy in the survival suit floating up to another boat. 94 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:12.959 That's laughable. 95 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:15.720 You mean you can't believe everything you see on. 96 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:21.319 TV, especially when it comes to Alaska. 97 00:07:22.439 --> 00:07:26.600 Yeah, i'd say imagine that. Now. Lynn, you've always impressed 98 00:07:26.600 --> 00:07:30.439 me whenever we've spoken, is a no nonsense type of lady. 99 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:34.240 Before you had your first experience with a cryptid, did 100 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:36.480 you believe that they could possibly even be out there? 101 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:43.959 Well, Harryman, yeah, I could. You know, I'd heard stories, 102 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:48.040 I'd spoken with a lot of Native Alaskan friends, and 103 00:07:48.959 --> 00:07:55.040 you could continue it. But nothing quite prepares you for 104 00:07:55.360 --> 00:08:01.680 actually seeing that because we're thought that they don't exists, 105 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:07.680 and it's purposely being kept quiet by powers it be. 106 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:09.399 I mean that's obvious. 107 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:12.199 Oh, no doubt. They definitely don't want you to know 108 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:15.720 about their existence, and I think I think it's frant 109 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:18.120 Why it's so hard to wrap your mind around them 110 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:20.600 being out there is because when you do have your 111 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:23.279 first experience, you realize that you've been living a lie. 112 00:08:23.399 --> 00:08:25.759 You've been lied to your whole life. You've been told 113 00:08:25.839 --> 00:08:28.240 ever since you were small that they aren't out there, 114 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:29.439 that they can't exist. 115 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:31.920 So you wonder what else you've been lied to about. 116 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:36.080 Well, yeah, that's only natural. Well, you've got a lot 117 00:08:36.159 --> 00:08:39.120 of dog men experiences to share with us, so let's 118 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:41.639 get down to the meat and potatoes. Now. When you're 119 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:44.559 telling us about your experiences, please tell us every last 120 00:08:44.600 --> 00:08:45.919 detail that you can recall. 121 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:52.320 First time that I encountered them, was was going to 122 00:08:52.320 --> 00:09:00.799 see well my father in an area of East Texas 123 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:07.480 or was he owns a ranch there and he's had 124 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:12.159 it since what I see Dad about that in the eighties, 125 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:18.679 early eight no, late late seventies, late seventies, when I 126 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:21.840 first kind of heard about them, but I didn't know 127 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:24.240 what I was hearing about. I didn't understand what I 128 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:31.519 was hearing about. Was I was on Dutch? Was what mid? 129 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:39.480 I think it was like nineties seven, ninety six, and 130 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:46.320 my father and I were talking every weekend, and one 131 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:52.960 that weekend he asked me, he goes, kid, you're look 132 00:09:53.000 --> 00:09:59.159 at these big black dogs down here in Texas. I said, well, 133 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:03.600 I'm trying to confused that. Are you talking like, are 134 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:07.200 they the neighbors dogs or are they like wild pheral? 135 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:11.559 I mean, what exactly are we talking about here? He said, well, 136 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:17.840 they're not the neighbors dogs, and they're big, really big. 137 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:25.600 I said, well, what do they look like like big 138 00:10:25.639 --> 00:10:30.639 black wolves? And I said that there's no wolves in 139 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:34.200 Texas to my knowledge, it hasn't been wolves there in 140 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:41.919 probably one hundred years. And I said, what, you know, 141 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:46.480 we're pretty good about guesstimating, uh, you know, wait time cattle, 142 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:50.480 because when we ship in the fall, we kind of 143 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:55.759 write down approximately what each cow waits so that we 144 00:10:55.840 --> 00:11:02.120 didn't get you know, ripped off by the stockyards. So 145 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:04.519 we had a pretty good idea of what we should 146 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:15.519 be getting money wise from each cow. Anyway, he said, 147 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:20.759 so I said, well, based you know, on that, I said, 148 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:27.200 what's the approximate weight of these dogs? And he says 149 00:11:27.879 --> 00:11:30.480 about the size of a two year old blackening as 150 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:36.279 bull cap And I said, that's impossible. That that's we 151 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:41.360 don't have bulls that being in Alaska. Are you sure 152 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:45.960 that maybe distance you know, the perception that it looked 153 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:51.200 bigger than they actually are five hundred pounds, that's just 154 00:11:52.879 --> 00:12:00.720 it's just impossible. And then in the background, my stepmother 155 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:04.399 goes and they walk around on two legs like human beings, 156 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:10.960 and I went, oh, I said, Dad, maybe is the 157 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:13.879 doctor giving Dorothy some new kind of medication or something, 158 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:20.440 because stucks walk around on two legs like humans. You know, 159 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:26.879 maybe should have the doctor checker medication. It sounds like she's, 160 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:33.399 you know, maybe hallucinating. I mean, what else would you think? Honestly, 161 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:37.559 what would you think? And then all of a sudden 162 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:41.559 he just shut up. He wouldn't didn't say another word. 163 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:46.279 And I thought about it all that week. So next 164 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:50.879 week when we spoke, so it's nothing. Whatever they are, 165 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:55.240 they they're gone, they moved on. I haven't seen them, 166 00:12:55.559 --> 00:13:01.360 and I was the end of it, or so I thought. So, 167 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:08.960 you know, years go by, my mother gets sick. I 168 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:15.279 ended up staying here to take care of her and 169 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:19.679 protect her and all this other stuff. You know, that's 170 00:13:19.960 --> 00:13:26.639 another story in itself. But she said you should go 171 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:32.799 see your father. So I went. And so my dad, yeah, 172 00:13:34.039 --> 00:13:39.559 flew into Dallas, uh, running a small limo and roll 173 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:43.240 out there. By the way. It's actually cheap route is 174 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:45.960 to run a lousine than it is to take uber, 175 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:55.639 at least there it is. So I think it was 176 00:13:55.679 --> 00:13:59.080 like a third night when we were having a good time. 177 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:04.879 We laughed, joke to talk about the old days, you know, buying, 178 00:14:06.159 --> 00:14:13.759 selling cattle and trading horses and just that that kind 179 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:20.240 of life is. Ah, it's a good life for those 180 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:24.200 that can afford to still live it. Yeah, they're making 181 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:26.120 it harder and harder for people to hang out to 182 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:29.120 their family farms and stuff. So I don't know how 183 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:36.200 much longer that's gonna last. Thing's going corporation. So that 184 00:14:36.360 --> 00:14:42.879 third night, oh okay, let me backtrack. Like, for like 185 00:14:42.960 --> 00:14:47.279 three days, he kept saying everything has to be inside 186 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:55.519 the fence before dark. And I said, Dad, why do 187 00:14:55.519 --> 00:14:57.759 you keep saying that? He goes, Do I say that all? 188 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:03.080 I said, yeah, like three or four times day. Why 189 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:06.919 do you Why do you say that so much? I said, Well, 190 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:10.200 he didn't lie to me. He said, well, he thought 191 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:14.399 about it for a moment. He said, I either find 192 00:15:14.440 --> 00:15:23.399 them dead or I never see them again. Interesting. I'm like, hmm, 193 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:26.200 that's strange. I said, So it sounds like you got 194 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:29.720 a coyote problem. Maybe we should clean him out on 195 00:15:29.840 --> 00:15:35.639 him here, you know, And you just kind of smiled 196 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:41.159 and yeah, it's probably not a bad idea. And so 197 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:46.120 that third night, or wait, I think i'd had like 198 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:49.240 two beers. You know, you know how you look you're 199 00:15:49.399 --> 00:15:53.000 you're talking and you'll be sipping. I mean the whole 200 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:57.200 night I had like two beers. Was not drunk. Neither 201 00:15:57.320 --> 00:16:02.399 was he. We we were talking about the old days, 202 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:08.200 talking about talking about that laugh and having a good time. 203 00:16:09.639 --> 00:16:15.919 And I'm one of those people that's constantly surveying my surroundings. 204 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:20.120 I'm always like my peripheral I catch things on my 205 00:16:20.159 --> 00:16:25.320 peri field. Most people never catch because they're not they 206 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:31.000 haven't had to be aware. They I don't think they've 207 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:33.840 been in situations where they had to be alert like that, 208 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:39.799 so they come I think what they have is a 209 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:46.960 tunnel vision. Well me, I'm trying to always keep aware. 210 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:53.159 I noticed these like twenty sets eyes out in the field. 211 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:59.200 My dad's got like three of those big farm lights. 212 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:03.120 I should be will see these. What was what came 213 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:09.160 with those those sets of eyes? And uh, it was 214 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:13.000 like a I mean, try to hit him with a flashlight. 215 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:18.480 I couldn't see. It was really weird it so it 216 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:24.240 was really black or something. It was a full moon 217 00:17:24.279 --> 00:17:27.680 that night too. That was the other thing I said 218 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:33.480 that he was sitting down, what's out there? What is that? 219 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:36.799 He gets up when he comes over and he kind 220 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:44.079 of smiles. He wasn't afraid he wasn't nervous, completely relaxed, 221 00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:52.880 which in you know, you know, after I was analyzing 222 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:56.599 all this in my head, putting this all together, and 223 00:17:56.839 --> 00:18:00.519 one thing that struck me is very strange. I met 224 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:03.440 one of his neighbors like the day before, and he 225 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:07.599 told me the story about my father let a five thousand, 226 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:12.599 five thousand dollars bull left him die out in the field. 227 00:18:13.799 --> 00:18:17.240 I said, that, don't the guy. I know my dad 228 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:20.640 would have done anything and everything humanly possible to save 229 00:18:20.720 --> 00:18:24.680 one of his cows. I remember was a kid pulling 230 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:28.160 cows out of snow banks because Dad's business partner put 231 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:30.599 the bull and it heard the wrong time of the year. 232 00:18:31.319 --> 00:18:33.839 We had cows coming in in snow banks, I mean 233 00:18:33.960 --> 00:18:39.039 dropping calves and snowmakers. It was. It was. We all 234 00:18:39.160 --> 00:18:42.680 managed to just to only lose one. We were very fortunate. 235 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:47.759 Normally you had lost a lot more. But we were 236 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:51.559 constantly on most horses out there looking they get back 237 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:53.599 in those clients. And the only way to get get 238 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:56.480 back in there is on horseback. That's it. You couldn't 239 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:02.960 even get back in that a four wheeler. So he 240 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:06.480 told tells me this story, and I'm like, I said, 241 00:19:06.519 --> 00:19:10.240 my dad did that. I don't sound like the guy 242 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:16.880 I know at all. I just couldn't imagine my dad 243 00:19:16.960 --> 00:19:20.039 doing something like that, just left him out there to die. 244 00:19:20.640 --> 00:19:27.240 It all made sense later on. So he had contacted 245 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:35.640 these guys since mid mid late nineties, but he never 246 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:37.960 mentioned her again to me. I suppose he didn't want 247 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:41.519 to be called crazy, because that's the first thing I got. 248 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:46.960 I thought my stepmother is being over medicated or something. 249 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:56.880 So anyway, he looks and, like I said, totally nonstant relaxed. 250 00:19:57.359 --> 00:20:00.440 He goes, Oh, that's just the young, young, young kid 251 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:04.880 down the road. I'm listening to some some grazing land, 252 00:20:05.160 --> 00:20:09.160 you know. And I say, those are cattle. I know, 253 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:14.160 predator's eyes when I see them. You know, those those 254 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:18.359 are forward facing eyes. And then he says, oh, probably 255 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:21.240 just coyotes. Say pretty big eyes for coyotes, wouldn't you say? 256 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:27.839 And these are big gold eyes. And I was getting 257 00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:36.240 this odd feeling when I was looking at them. I'm 258 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:40.839 pretty fearless. I mean, to me, fear is like a 259 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:49.200 survival tool, but fear to the point of being incapacitated. No, 260 00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:53.720 I just won't allow it. I won't allow that. I 261 00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:58.279 won't allow myself to go there, because that's a dangerous situation. 262 00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:04.000 When you're incapacity treated and income, incapable of moving even 263 00:21:05.160 --> 00:21:10.400 you're in a bad situation, that's fear in the extreme. 264 00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:15.160 That's like terror. I would put that in actually that category. 265 00:21:16.759 --> 00:21:20.680 And I said, I remember saying to Dad, speaking of coyotes, 266 00:21:21.640 --> 00:21:25.680 we should go clean clean them out a little bit. 267 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:28.079 Sounds like you got a problem with them around here, 268 00:21:28.799 --> 00:21:31.759 and that part almost I think Texas has a problem 269 00:21:31.759 --> 00:21:35.720 with coyotes these days. But I said, I can't stand them. 270 00:21:35.720 --> 00:21:39.680 There's nothing but scavengers, nothing like our beautiful, noble Alaskan wolves. 271 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:43.960 And then right after I said that, okay, this grass 272 00:21:44.039 --> 00:21:49.960 was about waist high. What it came out fast. I mean, 273 00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:54.240 I have never seen anything move that fast in my life. 274 00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:59.799 About halfway between where came out of the deep deep 275 00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:06.839 grass and dead Stark trailer, which is I'm guessing around 276 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:14.279 forty foot fifty foot probably seven foot high. No, it 277 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:21.079 went by Peter halfway there. I'm marked where when it 278 00:22:21.200 --> 00:22:25.680 passed the Stark trailer, its head was above Stark trailer. 279 00:22:28.839 --> 00:22:33.079 Next day I went, not do it measured that When 280 00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:37.359 that happened, I'm like, what, And I mean I was 281 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:42.279 just like, I'm looking at them out there, I'm looking 282 00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:47.720 at I'm looking at that. I'm like, what is going 283 00:22:47.759 --> 00:22:58.240 on here? Now? I know what I saw? That's it 284 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.839 around I'd say around five five hundred, just like Dad said, 285 00:23:05.400 --> 00:23:10.000 backward facing hawks like a dog. I've heard of people 286 00:23:10.039 --> 00:23:13.680 seeing the woes that have like legs like a human. 287 00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:23.640 I've not seen them. I have not seen them. I 288 00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:27.279 suspect they're not the same as a dog. Man. I 289 00:23:27.279 --> 00:23:32.400 think there's something else, but I can't say because just 290 00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:35.359 from what I've heard, it sounds like they are something 291 00:23:36.559 --> 00:23:48.920 entirely different. So it was weird the way. It was 292 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:52.119 almost like he was showing me he wasn't a manging 293 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:55.759 COI or something. I don't know. It's the impression I got. 294 00:23:57.440 --> 00:24:02.720 So I'm looking at them and I'm counting eyes, and 295 00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:06.559 I'm like thinking, how ask can I get Dad's gun room? 296 00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:09.640 And I went, that's not gonna do any good. There's 297 00:24:09.680 --> 00:24:11.720 twenty of them. I just seen what that wanted to do. 298 00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:16.079 And then all of a sudden, I felt this wave 299 00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:20.240 of fear, no terror hit me, like I am I 300 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:23.880 am never feel fear like that in my life, and 301 00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:28.720 I like I screamed, in my head. Stop now, get 302 00:24:28.759 --> 00:24:32.920 out of my head. And then it immediately was stopped, 303 00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:41.039 and and then I felt this overwhelming sense of curiosity. 304 00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:48.200 They can they can mind speak, they can convey feelings too. 305 00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:53.759 That's that's just tired. It's so strange to me. But 306 00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:58.480 at the time it felt completely normal, and that makes 307 00:24:58.519 --> 00:25:03.440 any sense. They said you're not like other humans. I said, no, 308 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:14.960 I'm not, and I said what are you? Yeah, remember 309 00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:21.160 they said that they were old, very old. They've been 310 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:33.039 here a long time. And I remember at one point 311 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:35.519 I said, you know, you're not going to be safe here. 312 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:39.440 It's going to come time. You're going to have to 313 00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:43.920 leave this area because the military will probably try to 314 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:52.440 use you. And I heard like a chuckle, like soft laughter, 315 00:25:54.440 --> 00:26:02.559 and I said, seriously, I'm serious here, you guys. I said, 316 00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:07.200 let me show you my home. And I started showing 317 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:15.839 them like features in my mind of Alaska, endless flat mountains, rivers, 318 00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:20.319 lakes and no roads anywhere, like what you'd see flying 319 00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:29.799 in a plane. And I said, probably a lot safer here. 320 00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:38.400 As you know, you guys are seem pretty capable. But 321 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:45.240 when it comes to power, as it be, I don't 322 00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:48.880 think you hold you're gonna hold your home better. You'd 323 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:54.519 be better off just to try to stay away. I 324 00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:58.200 didn't get the impression that these guys were evil. They're 325 00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:05.279 definitely carnivorous, and no doubt about that, they're meteors. But 326 00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:09.400 I've seen dealt with that all over Alaska. So I mean, 327 00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:13.799 we have bearers, we got well, you name it, we 328 00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:19.960 got it. But evil from what I've heard on your 329 00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:23.119 shoulder there, I definitely are some that are. But I 330 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:28.119 did not get the impression from these guys. I think 331 00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:30.160 they like to see if they can scare people. Though 332 00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:35.119 they'd definitely like to see it. I think they find 333 00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:44.039 it amusing that most humans become afraid so easily. I 334 00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:47.920 think it's a test in some cases. In other cases, 335 00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:50.599 I think they want I just want the people out 336 00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:56.680 of their area. Maybe they have their mates, you're young, 337 00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:01.359 I don't know, but those would be good reasons scare 338 00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:09.359 somebody out of your area rather than harm them. Because 339 00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:13.759 so many people get harmed, there's going to start to 340 00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:16.920 be a trail, and that trail is going to lead 341 00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:23.000 right to their doorstep. So that'd be another reason for 342 00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:30.440 them not to actively be going after people. These guys, 343 00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:36.359 Like I said, you know impression I got said they 344 00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:45.119 weren't like out to get humans. But I've heard some 345 00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:51.160 really disturbing stories on your show that I think a 346 00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:54.039 lot there are a lot like humans in the fact 347 00:28:54.039 --> 00:29:01.640 that there's good and there's bad. There's good and bad elements. 348 00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:04.680 So you know, I went and sat back down with 349 00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:15.160 Dad and we started talking about different horses and this 350 00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:19.880 and that. Every once in a while I get up 351 00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:24.119 and I look still out there they were listening to 352 00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:28.799 our conversation. We finally broke off at three o'clock in 353 00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:33.839 the morning because we're both pretty tired. It was a 354 00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:37.720 good talk. I mean, we hadn't talk like that in years. 355 00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:48.559 So next night there was one at my window or 356 00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:51.920 Dad's in the room. I was staying in my dad's house. 357 00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:58.079 I just kind of ignored. I didn't know what else 358 00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:02.720 to do. I was just like just ignored him, and 359 00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:04.759 then I finally just won't sleep. 360 00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:16.400 Let's Seeah, So, okay, spend a couple of weeks with 361 00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:20.720 my father, then came back here. 362 00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:36.920 Because while I was gone, this neighbor kid renting. We 363 00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:42.240 own our property. These people were like renting from this 364 00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:46.640 guy who bought a property next to us. Shoved my 365 00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:55.200 mother knocked her down while I was gone. This kid 366 00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:58.759 is about my size, but if I'd have done anything 367 00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:02.359 to him, you know where I would end up in jail. Right, 368 00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:10.359 this seventy seventy nine year old woman knocked her down. 369 00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:18.319 I was furious. The second night I was back, all 370 00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:21.000 of a sudden, I have this. I had this big 371 00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:25.200 German shepherd. In fact, she's so big everybody always thought 372 00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:28.440 she was male. My mom used to call her high stepper, 373 00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:33.359 like a high stepping horse because she would she was 374 00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:38.519 beautiful German shepherd. So all of a sudden, I hear 375 00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:44.200 amber at my door, like you know how like dogs 376 00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:48.200 are scared, you know, they whine and they get frantic, 377 00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:50.680 and that's what she was doing. And I've never heard 378 00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:54.200 this dog do that before. So I opened the door. 379 00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:59.319 She comes in like really fast and then curls up 380 00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:02.240 in a ball in the middle of the out and 381 00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:07.640 I'm like, okay, that's the wrong Amby. And she's kind 382 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.720 of looked at me and looked back on the you know, 383 00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:16.440 either had her face or muscle in our paws. So 384 00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:21.200 that was weird. That was about I almost went upside 385 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:27.759 just to see when I caught a We also have 386 00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.839 those you know, the big form lights you know, light 387 00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:38.160 up the area. And I caught a silhouette our shadow, 388 00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:40.920 you know, like the light behind you know, like if 389 00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:43.400 you're standing in front of a light, cast a shadow 390 00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:51.920 right on the h Yeah, we called the blinds. That's 391 00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:56.160 over the sink, the window like this in front of 392 00:32:56.200 --> 00:33:03.400 the sink, our shade. Shade. That's the way I'm I went, ah, 393 00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:08.680 I didn't know what that is, so I just laid 394 00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:13.920 down and I said, I know you're out there, Please 395 00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:20.160 don't hurt my animals. And the boy said, you don't 396 00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:24.799 have to worry about that. I said, good, And I 397 00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:28.920 knew Mom in her beds and I knew she was safe, 398 00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:33.599 so I just went to sleep. Funny thing is, next 399 00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:37.920 day the neighbor was the kid that knocked my mother 400 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:44.640 down while I was gone, and his wife they were 401 00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:53.880