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Speaker 1: and only Professor John Ellis. Are we done with tribalism
Speaker 1: in our world?
Speaker 2: Are we here? Aren't we?
Speaker 1: He says in a short History of Relations between Peoples
Speaker 1: that tribalism is dead. It just doesn't know it yet.
Speaker 1: We will talk to him to start the show in
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Speaker 1: Sunday morning at nine on seven hundred WLW, the home
Speaker 1: of the best Bengals coverage. It's the Markin Ellis, Distinguished
Speaker 1: Professor Emeritus of German Literature at the University of California,
Speaker 1: Santa Cruz. He taught at universities all around the world, England, Wales,
Speaker 1: Canada before joining the University of California, Santa Cruz back
Speaker 1: in the mid sixties. He is the author of eleven books,
Speaker 1: including The Breakdown of Higher Education. And that's the last
Speaker 1: time we had Professor Ellis on the show when that
Speaker 1: book rolled out. Right now there is a brand new one.
Speaker 1: We want to talk about a short history of relations
Speaker 1: between peoples, how the world began to move beyond tribalism.
Speaker 1: And once again, welcome to John m Ellis. How are you, John, I'm.
Speaker 3: Fine, Thanks, and thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2: Yep, it's a great pleasure to have you.
Speaker 1: We tackled all kinds of different topics on this show,
Speaker 1: and this is the one that I'm particularly interested in
Speaker 1: because maybe some definitions for people who don't quite get
Speaker 1: what you mean by tribalism, even though it should be
Speaker 1: self explanatory to most people, is tribalism the same thing
Speaker 1: as put America first?
Speaker 2: Is that tribalism.
Speaker 3: No, I think Tribalism is just a sense that people
Speaker 3: once universally have of looking to people like themselves, close
Speaker 3: to themselves for their safety and prosperity, and especially for
Speaker 3: their protection against foreigners, who, you know, in say, five
Speaker 3: hundred years ago, a foreigner was likely to be someone
Speaker 3: who was a danger to you, an invading army or
Speaker 3: something of the kind of marauding marauding people that uh,
Speaker 3: you know, we're off to your food supply or or
Speaker 3: your possessions. So, I mean, tribalism is so very old force,
Speaker 3: and it's just simply a sense that you need to
Speaker 3: be protected against the great outside world, and people like
Speaker 3: you are the you know, the source of your protection.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let me let me put it in
Speaker 1: in the lens of what we have seen the last
Speaker 1: three and a half years, Professor ellis uh with a
Speaker 1: wide open American border, in fact, no border really at all,
Speaker 1: allowing all kinds of unvetted people from all over the
Speaker 1: world into our country with not knowing who they are
Speaker 1: or what they are. Necessarily, for one hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: different countries have been flooding into our southern border because
Speaker 1: of policies generated in Washington, d C. And It's a big,
Speaker 1: big element and decision maker for a lot of people
Speaker 1: in this upcoming presidential election, don't you think.
Speaker 3: Absolutely well, that raises a lot of you know, quite
Speaker 3: different issues. I mean there's the issue of crime. I mean,
Speaker 3: these people are not vetted. So I mean, if I
Speaker 3: go back to when I first came to America about
Speaker 3: sixty years ago, I mean I had to pass tests
Speaker 3: of you know, had I committed crimes and so on,
Speaker 3: and my background was looked into and I was only
Speaker 3: allowed into the country when they were quite clear that
Speaker 3: I was, you know, a civic minded, law abiding person.
Speaker 3: To let unvetted people pour over your border is insanity.
Speaker 3: I mean it's from a point of view of the
Speaker 3: safety of the citizens of the country, this is a
Speaker 3: horrible thing to do to people. But there's also a
Speaker 3: question of cultures. I mean, you know, we have a
Speaker 3: very strong tradition in this country. Institution is based on
Speaker 3: older concepts like like Migricarto. You know, the government must
Speaker 3: be able to prove before it acts against you. The
Speaker 3: government must be able to prove to people like yourself,
Speaker 3: a jury of the peers, that it's acting reasonably. Now
Speaker 3: that's you know, the legacy of our part legacy of
Speaker 3: our system, another one of habeas corpus that you have
Speaker 3: a right to exist in your life and your property
Speaker 3: and so on unless the government has very very good
Speaker 3: reason for interfering with that. Now, those traditions are very
Speaker 3: important to us as a country, and to let millions
Speaker 3: of people come in suddenly who don't have those traditions,
Speaker 3: who are from totally different cultures is crazy. I mean,
Speaker 3: what we should be doing is letting in people in
Speaker 3: sufficient numbers that they can assimilate and not change our
Speaker 3: culture by swamping it with a different set of values.
Speaker 3: Our political traditions and our social setup is so important
Speaker 3: to us that we should never be allowing something, you know,
Speaker 3: millions to come in who belong in a completely different culture,
Speaker 3: completely different expectations of what the government is going to
Speaker 3: be like and what law enforcement is going to be like, Yeah,
Speaker 3: what the political situation is going to be like. I mean,
Speaker 3: you just don't do that. That's awfully stupid.
Speaker 1: Well, America described as the Great melting Pot because of
Speaker 1: its history of immigrants coming into this continent and being
Speaker 1: assimilated into an American culture. We should be very proud
Speaker 1: of that. As a country, I think. But the thing
Speaker 1: is in the massive wave of immigration, say in the
Speaker 1: late nineteenth and early twentieth century in this country, there
Speaker 1: there was vetting going on and some people waited on
Speaker 1: Ellis Island for six weeks and they still didn't get
Speaker 1: in because either they were sick or they it was
Speaker 1: found that they had a criminal history where they'd come from,
Speaker 1: be it England or one of the other European countries
Speaker 1: where they had migrated from. And you know that what
Speaker 1: happened in that situation was that those people saw becoming
Speaker 1: a part of the American culture as a gift from God.
Speaker 1: They saw it as I want to assimilate and the
Speaker 1: melting pot. The melting pot only works if the incoming
Speaker 1: ingredients add to the flavor of the stew, not dominate
Speaker 1: or detract from it. And I think when you've got
Speaker 1: a wide open situation that has been invited by the
Speaker 1: current presidential administration and a vice president who's running for president,
Speaker 1: what has happened there? You have these cultures and peoples
Speaker 1: who do not want to assimilate. They just want to
Speaker 1: come into the country and make it, make it their
Speaker 1: own instead of adding, instead of adding to the stew,
Speaker 1: they are in the places where they are highly concentrated
Speaker 1: and been flown all over the country. They are dominating
Speaker 1: the flavor, and Americans don't like the taste.
Speaker 3: Well, that's why when you talk about the vetting, for example,
Speaker 3: people coming to Ellis Island in the old days, I mean,
Speaker 3: to some extent, the vetting was already in place, just
Speaker 3: in the fact that these people coming from countries that
Speaker 3: have similar political traditions to ours. I mean, if you
Speaker 3: people come from Britain, you know that their their political
Speaker 3: traditions are closely thenked already to Americas, So that in
Speaker 3: a sense, is a form of vetting already. There's there's
Speaker 3: just no doubt that if you're going to have people
Speaker 3: coming in from cultures that have no relationship whatever to
Speaker 3: our political traditions, you need to have them come in
Speaker 3: in small numbers so they can assimilate. But if you
Speaker 3: haven't come in very large numbers, that's that's real trouble.
Speaker 3: You have a real cultural clash.
Speaker 1: And you know, especially if they happen to be gang
Speaker 1: men members from Venezuela or one of these other countries,
Speaker 1: or terrorists you know from African and Islamic countries that
Speaker 1: have expressed their desire to see America die. So I
Speaker 1: mean we've had all of that in the last three
Speaker 1: and a half years.
Speaker 3: Professor Yeah, well again, I mean you these gangs, I
Speaker 3: mean trendy Aragua, they're characteristic of South American countries. They're
Speaker 3: characteristic of you know, countries in other parts of the
Speaker 3: world in Asia, but they're not characteristic of England or
Speaker 3: Germany or France. I mean, oh this again, if you
Speaker 3: have large numbers of people coming in from northern Europe,
Speaker 3: you automatic don't have that gang problem. So again, another
Speaker 3: reason why you don't. You know, you don't have large
Speaker 3: numbers of a culture coming in suddenly in ways that
Speaker 3: you can't really assimblate quickly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't have a lot of violent Norwegian gangs infiltrating
Speaker 1: America at this point.
Speaker 2: So let's get back.
Speaker 1: Let's get back to your book just for a second.
Speaker 1: Here a short history of relations between peoples and how
Speaker 1: the world began to move away from tribalism. When did
Speaker 1: this really start occurring, Professor ellis.
Speaker 4: Well, I.
Speaker 3: Go back to the fifteen hundred and at that time.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, one of the things about history
Speaker 3: is if I were teaching history, I say the kids,
Speaker 3: look before you start to talk about any historical period,
Speaker 3: just to ask yourselves, did cars exist in that time?
Speaker 3: Did did railways exist in that time? Did social legislation
Speaker 3: exist in that time? What was the what was medicine
Speaker 3: like in that time? Fifteen hundred, I mean, the fact
Speaker 3: of the matter is you don't have television, you don't
Speaker 3: have radio, you don't have the internet, you don't have railways.
Speaker 3: So in other words, people in fifteen hundred know very
Speaker 3: very little about the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: Well, they didn't travel far from their homes for the
Speaker 1: most part because there was no way to get there.
Speaker 3: But you had to walk, so you probably didn't go
Speaker 3: more than thirty miles. So basically, the average person in
Speaker 3: fifteen hundred sits there and knows almost nothing about other
Speaker 3: countries except that occasionally you get an army from a
Speaker 3: foreign country invading you. So from the point of view
Speaker 3: of the average person fifteen hundred, other countries are a
Speaker 3: menace and there's something to be very apprehensive about if
Speaker 3: and that might even be stronger. You might even load
Speaker 3: the idea of seeing strangers because they're dangerous. Now, so
Speaker 3: my book is about how do you get from that
Speaker 3: state of mind that most people had very tribal, very
Speaker 3: likely to cling to their own people and be afraid
Speaker 3: of other cultures. How do you get from that to
Speaker 3: the modern world where we have We certainly have lots
Speaker 3: of tribalismes as you said, I mean, you know, Africa
Speaker 3: is still riddled with tribal conflicts. But we do have
Speaker 3: a kind of theoretical orthodoxy. Right You mustn't say that
Speaker 3: one culture is better than another, and if you start
Speaker 3: to talk about one group being inferior to another, you
Speaker 3: get called a racist. So in other words, we have
Speaker 3: an orthodoxy that all people are equally valuable, and you
Speaker 3: know that they're all worthy of respect and dignity, which
Speaker 3: is which is a fine, fine orthodoxy. All human beings
Speaker 3: are God's creechures and they all deserve respect as such.
Speaker 3: Now that that's when I say it's an orthodoxy. What
Speaker 3: I really mean is that a lot of people don't
Speaker 3: believe it. I mean, in practice, there's still a lot
Speaker 3: of tribalism going on in the world, people clinging to
Speaker 3: their own people and really not appreciating other people. Wandered
Speaker 3: a bit. The point of an orthodoxy is that you know,
Speaker 3: there's a strong pressure not to oppose it openly, so
Speaker 3: you otherwise there's a lot of hypocrisy, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of inconsistency. But everybody knows that if you make a
Speaker 3: remark that a certain country is inferior to yours, you
Speaker 3: get called a racist. And that's what I'm me by saying,
Speaker 3: there's an Orthodox, There's there's a certain belief system you
Speaker 3: have to subscribe to, and you know that if you
Speaker 3: if you ever go against it publicly, Uh, You're going
Speaker 3: to be in trouble. That a situation like that does
Speaker 3: not mean that everyone really believes in the Orthodox. It
Speaker 3: just means that everyone knows that they better not oppose
Speaker 3: it publicly.
Speaker 1: Well, how how do you how do you dismantle everything
Speaker 1: that CRT Critical Race Theory tries to tell us about
Speaker 1: race and racism, both in the past and up to
Speaker 1: modern day. How does this book address that? And uh,
Speaker 1: and kind of take it take it down?
Speaker 3: Well, Look, Critical Race Theory tells us a couple of things.
Speaker 3: One that all our problems as far as racisms are concerned,
Speaker 3: are white racism, and white racism is all about maintaining
Speaker 3: white privilege. Uh, And and and white superiority, white supremacy.
Speaker 3: Uh and and the CRT people also tell us this
Speaker 3: such a thing as white rage because our privileges are
Speaker 3: slipping away and so on. Now and part of this,
Speaker 3: part of this is it was what privileges that white
Speaker 3: people have, most of the wealth which they've were course
Speaker 3: stolen from other other other cultures. Ah, and they occupied
Speaker 3: positions of power, which again they have squeezed other people
Speaker 3: out of power. Now, in my book, what I do
Speaker 3: is show how the how the modern orthodoxy of all
Speaker 3: you know, we're all one, we're all one human race,
Speaker 3: how that orthodoxy developed, where it started, and how it developed,
Speaker 3: and how it took over the modern world and shoved
Speaker 3: out tribalism as as an orthoxy. And my whole point
Speaker 3: about critical race theory being absolutely wrong is that the
Speaker 3: history of this shows that it was the English speaking
Speaker 3: world that developed this kind of ethic, the ethic of
Speaker 3: anti racism. It was the British Enlightenment of the eighteenth
Speaker 3: century that started to talk about the rights of all
Speaker 3: people and the evil of one person being subjected to
Speaker 3: the will of another. And so a movement began in
Speaker 3: England and nowhere else to abolish slavery. And by about
Speaker 3: seventeen seventy, which about you, but maybe sixty seventy years
Speaker 3: after the movement began, already you were starting to see
Speaker 3: slavery being abolished in various places.
Speaker 1: The founders of this country, Professor Ellis, knew that slavery
Speaker 1: had to be abolished in this country. Even the people
Speaker 1: who were slave owners and are appointed to now as
Speaker 1: awful racist endemic racism in America. From the very beginning
Speaker 1: of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, they all knew that
Speaker 1: this had to go.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and they were just yeah.
Speaker 3: Point of my book is on this argument is that
Speaker 3: that sentiment slavery's got to go. It starts in only
Speaker 3: one place, Britain. It doesn't start in Africa, on the country.
Speaker 3: Slavery's practiced in Africa for one hundred years to come.
Speaker 3: It doesn't start in Asia, it doesn't start among North
Speaker 3: American tribes. It starts only in Britain. That's the one
Speaker 3: place it starts. It gathers steamed very quickly in England,
Speaker 3: and it produces results by late eighteenth century. And at
Speaker 3: that point the rest of the world is still indulging
Speaker 3: in slavery. So CLT and know the worst has things
Speaker 3: backwards scribe.
Speaker 2: All right, if you want to learn about it. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to cut you short, but I'm running
Speaker 1: kind of short on time, and that's probably my fault,
Speaker 1: not yours. But the book is a short history of
Speaker 1: relations between peoples, how the world began to move beyond tribalism.
Speaker 1: The author's professor John M. Ellis, and our guest tonight,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate your time so much and great success
Speaker 1: with the book.
Speaker 3: It's out now, yes it is indeed, yes, all.
Speaker 1: Right, fantastic Professor Ellis, have a wonderful evening. And all
Speaker 1: I'll say at this and see if you can give
Speaker 1: me a yay or nay on this quick comment. I
Speaker 1: think that Donald Trump is having success because he is
Speaker 1: talking to all Americans and to not any particular group.
Speaker 3: And well absolutely absolutely the anti racist in this political
Speaker 3: scene of ours is Trump. He is talking to all racists,
Speaker 3: all people's all America. Opposition. His opposition is trying to
Speaker 3: single out particular group.
Speaker 1: Apps and they've been doing that to pander. Absolutely, Professor Ellis,
Speaker 1: thank you, we got a roll. It's the night Cap,
Speaker 1: thank you, it's the Nightcap. On seven hundred WLW Tuesday,
Speaker 1: October the twenty ninth, twenty twenty four, Gary Jeff with
Speaker 1: our next guest, author of the Pfiser Papers, Pfizer's Crimes
Speaker 1: against Humanity, one of the world's most influential feminists, doctor
Speaker 1: Naomi Wolfe, who comments on almost everything. And you know,
Speaker 1: like many of us, there's always we run the risk
Speaker 1: when we comment on everything, especially supposedly controversial topics and subjects.
Speaker 1: There's a chance that somebody is going to try and
Speaker 1: silence this. And I know this has happened for doctor
Speaker 1: wolf numerous times, especially especially during COVID and what I
Speaker 1: called the the scamdemic of twenty twenty and Pfiser's involvement
Speaker 1: in that. And right now we welcome in doctor Naomi
Speaker 1: wolf How are you good.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: Oh thanks for coming back on the show. This new
Speaker 1: book is the Pfiser Papers. As I mentioned at the top,
Speaker 1: Pfizer's Crimes against Humanity. I'll also mention doctor Wolf is
Speaker 1: the co founder and CEO of Dailyclout dot io, successful
Speaker 1: civil civic tech company. We'll get into that in just
Speaker 1: a moment, doctor Wolf. But first and foremost, I Harken
Speaker 1: back to the end of Dwight D. Eisenhower's presidency when
Speaker 1: he warned, as he was outgoing against the rise of
Speaker 1: the military industrial complex, how come no one warned us
Speaker 1: about the rise of the big pharma hospital industrial complex
Speaker 1: that we are living under, right, question?
Speaker 6: That is a great question, and in fact his his.
Speaker 5: His warning was prescient.
Speaker 6: But it really fantastasized, didn't it. I mean, these vaccines
Speaker 6: were actually commissioned by.
Speaker 5: The Department of Defense.
Speaker 6: I gathered from my husband that that's not unusual that
Speaker 6: the DoD commissions, you know, large government contracts of medicine
Speaker 6: like that all the time. But it's it could have
Speaker 6: been impossible in Eisenhower's spirit to foresee how the military
Speaker 6: industrial complex fantastasized and incorporated a government pharmaceutical complex, or
Speaker 6: you know, has been out done by a government pharmaceutical complex,
Speaker 6: because arguably the attack on humanity via Pfizer and Maderna,
Speaker 6: you know, in concert with global governments and transnational organizations,
Speaker 6: which again Eisenhewer couldn't have scene kind of out does
Speaker 6: anyone more?
Speaker 2: Oh, oh my.
Speaker 1: Gosh, I mean the damage caused by COVID and then
Speaker 1: the damage caused by the mRNA vaccine that they came out,
Speaker 1: you know, to allay everyone's fears of this dread disease,
Speaker 1: which was you know, a manipulated a human manipulated common
Speaker 1: cold basically and turned into this this killer disease that
Speaker 1: was going to wipe out the globe if we don't,
Speaker 1: you know, come up with something fast, doctor Wolfe, I
Speaker 1: will tell you one of the things, and it's probably
Speaker 1: the only thing that I saw and regretted in my
Speaker 1: vote for Donald Trump in twenty twenty was his I
Speaker 1: don't know, just acquiescence to these people like doctor Fauci
Speaker 1: and doctor Burke's and the of them who were you know,
Speaker 1: and this operation warp speed to get this vaccine done
Speaker 1: quickly and all of that. To me, that was the
Speaker 1: one thing about the Trump presidency that I detest. So
Speaker 1: many other things I was a big fan of, And
Speaker 1: you know your thoughts on.
Speaker 6: That, well, I guess I have a lot of empathy
Speaker 6: for President Trump actually about that. I was a White
Speaker 6: House spouse during the clin era, and then I advised
Speaker 6: the Clinton campaign for reelection and Gore's presidential campaign, so
Speaker 6: I watched what it's like for what we call the
Speaker 6: principles right, the president's vice president close up. And you know,
Speaker 6: how can I put it?
Speaker 7: A president has to rely on his special advisors sometimes,
Speaker 7: especially with our keen information regarding epidemiology or vaccinology or
Speaker 7: you know, virology.
Speaker 6: Like he can't know everything, I think, right, and it
Speaker 6: would kind of cripple a president. He did try to
Speaker 6: know everything, so he especially with science and medicine.
Speaker 5: You know these This is how our system is supposed
Speaker 5: to work.
Speaker 6: The special advisors to the president are supposed to give
Speaker 6: him their best opinion and then you know he's supposed
Speaker 6: to trust them.
Speaker 5: He couldn't know.
Speaker 6: And we all didn't know till r FP Chuni Road
Speaker 6: the real Anthony Sauci that the people advising him were
Speaker 6: grossly conflicted receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars in royalty
Speaker 6: payments from the very companies that they were tasked with
Speaker 6: overseeing and regulating. He couldn't know that. Well, you know,
Speaker 6: the deep dive into the CDC and the FDA. You know,
Speaker 6: the CDC has a nonprofit side that Bill Gates and
Speaker 6: other vaccine manufacturers pay into. I mean it's a massive
Speaker 6: and then you look at the revolving door right the
Speaker 6: you know the people who run the FDA go on
Speaker 6: to sit on the boards of the vaccine and pharmaceutical
Speaker 6: companies and vice versa. So it's a big corrupt mess.
Speaker 5: And he was being told, you know, this is a horrible,
Speaker 5: deadly pandemic.
Speaker 6: If you don't act in the following way, you know,
Speaker 6: you're going to kill a lot of people.
Speaker 5: That said, you know, I look back at some of
Speaker 5: his decisions, and to his credit, he did a lot
Speaker 5: of the right things.
Speaker 6: For example, he tried to block flights from China when
Speaker 6: you know where the virus originated.
Speaker 5: He was called a racist. I know, he also right.
Speaker 6: He also rightly said that the decisions of how to
Speaker 6: handle it was in the hands of the states, which
Speaker 6: is exactly constitutionally correct. The CDC doesn't have the right
Speaker 6: to close down our society. The president doesn't have the
Speaker 6: right to close down our society. These are state by
Speaker 6: state decisions about how they want to handle a public
Speaker 6: health you know, crisis, and he was attacked for that.
Speaker 6: He tried to withdraw from the World Health Organization, which
Speaker 6: turns out to be the most corrupt driver of the
Speaker 6: push for lockdowns and forced vacciny and mandates and the
Speaker 6: rollout of these terrifying, sterilizing, disabling, lethal injections, and you know,
Speaker 6: he was attacked for that, so his instincts were quite good.
Speaker 6: But at a certain point, again, you know, he was
Speaker 6: dealing with a bunch of other things. No president has
Speaker 6: the time to not listen to his special advisors.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I absolutely agree with you on that wholeheartedly,
Speaker 1: doctor Wolf.
Speaker 2: But I would also say that.
Speaker 1: Some of his original instincts about this were correct. You know,
Speaker 1: he said, you know, I don't think we need to
Speaker 1: shut down the country. He said, you know, let's give
Speaker 1: it a little bit of time.
Speaker 2: Maybe.
Speaker 1: But his initial thing was he thought that it was
Speaker 1: a hoax. Now, while the virus was real, there were
Speaker 1: elements of this as we get into the mRNA and
Speaker 1: Pfizer and the things you point out in the book
Speaker 1: that were very hoax ish. And you know, why wouldn't
Speaker 1: they be pulling another hoax on him in an election year?
Speaker 5: Very interesting. I hadn't thought of that.
Speaker 6: But I guess what I would also say, you know,
Speaker 6: to your overall point, which you know really makes sense,
Speaker 6: is if all we did was obey our own constitution.
Speaker 5: You can face crises.
Speaker 6: You can face hoaxes, right, you can face whatever history
Speaker 6: throws at you and you won't go very far astray.
Speaker 5: What I mean is they could have rolled out this horrible.
Speaker 6: Disabling injection that my book and I'm the editor with
Speaker 6: Amy Kelly. The book was written by thirty two hundred
Speaker 6: and fifty doctors and scientists who volunteer to be through
Speaker 6: the Pfizer documents released under court order, and it reveals
Speaker 6: the greatest crime against humanity ever. But they could have
Speaker 6: you know, the government could have rolled this out but
Speaker 6: not mandate it right, and not encourage universities and hospitals
Speaker 6: to mandate it, and threatened tech companies if they didn't
Speaker 6: censor people like me who were warning about of early
Speaker 6: reports of side effects, like all you have to do
Speaker 6: is obey the constitution, right, you could have had a
Speaker 6: rampeaching like we've had tuberculosis, we've had cholera, we've had
Speaker 6: yellow peeper. You know, we don't go back in American
Speaker 6: history and say, oh, back during tuberculosis or back during cholera,
Speaker 6: you know, because eight million other things were going on
Speaker 6: and we had the constitution. So people were dealing with
Speaker 6: cholera or tuberculosis or typhus, but they were also you know,
Speaker 6: not shutting down all of America. That never happened before
Speaker 6: because the constitution says you can't, right, So as a result,
Speaker 6: we didn't have giant chunks of our history yielded to
Speaker 6: these much more serious infectious diseases. So yeah, I would
Speaker 6: just say, like, yes, there was so much lying, as
Speaker 6: you see in the Pfizer peepers, like, it's not even
Speaker 6: bad science, it's like satanic science.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 6: For instance, they hid the bodies of eight dead vaccinated
Speaker 6: people who died infected with COVID in order to tell
Speaker 6: the FDA that you were more likely to get hospitalized
Speaker 6: or die if you were unvaccinated. They had not hidden
Speaker 6: those deaths, they would have had to report that you're
Speaker 6: more likely to die or get very sick if you're vaccinated,
Speaker 6: which is what the.
Speaker 5: Data now show.
Speaker 6: You know, they lost the records of two hundred and
Speaker 6: thirty four women who got pregnant even you know, with vaccinations,
Speaker 6: though PISA told them not to, and even though they
Speaker 6: have only thirty four records. Of those thirty four records,
Speaker 6: over eighty percent of the women lost their babies. Right,
Speaker 6: they hid the fact that they knew. In April of
Speaker 6: twenty twenty one that minors were sustaining heart damage, and
Speaker 6: they called a press conference at the highest level, including
Speaker 6: probably the president, to cover it up. Right, They hid
Speaker 6: and lied, they buried things. They invented new categories like
Speaker 6: resolved slash resolving to hide the fact that people were
Speaker 6: still very, very sick with serious adverse events. I mean
Speaker 6: points is they could have done all of this, but
Speaker 6: if if we had stuck to our constitution, it would
Speaker 6: have it would have still hurt people because people would
Speaker 6: have been lied to. It's still fraud, right and manslaughter,
Speaker 6: but there wouldn't have been the whole sale catastrophe. We're
Speaker 6: millions of excess deaths around the world, you know, thousands
Speaker 6: of excess deaths according to Ed Dowd's analysis of government
Speaker 6: reports in our own country, a million people a month
Speaker 6: according to his records, identifying as disabled, and a thirteen
Speaker 6: to twenty percent drop in live births, which our book
Speaker 6: that Pfizer pepers explains exactly. You know that that says
Speaker 6: they say in Tech not above, it's a feature. This
Speaker 6: injection is designed, clearly from what we found in the
Speaker 6: Plazure papers, to cause damage to menstruation, which Pfizer guarded
Speaker 6: thousands tens of thousands of women. They charted their menstrual damage,
Speaker 6: horrific menstrual damage. They charted the miscarriages. They said that
Speaker 6: the deaths of babies in utero were due to quote
Speaker 6: maternal exposure end quote to the vaccine. They sent that
Speaker 6: report to the White House and too doctor Lensky. Doctor
Speaker 6: Lensky gave a press conference three days later from the
Speaker 6: White House saying to American women that there was no
Speaker 6: bad time to get a COVID injection before your pregnancy,
Speaker 6: during your pregnancy.
Speaker 5: Or after your baby is born.
Speaker 6: They knew all of this right, So we'd still have
Speaker 6: a lot of damage, but it wouldn't be as catastrophic
Speaker 6: if we had just if our leaders and we ourselves
Speaker 6: had obeyed the constitution.
Speaker 1: And among those who succumbed after getting the vaccine, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you have seen the reports from embalmers around the country.
Speaker 1: These these large white blood clots that they'd never seen
Speaker 1: in cadavers in their patients before.
Speaker 2: These people were all jabbed.
Speaker 1: Ninety percent of placebo recipients by March of twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one were vaccinated by Pfizer, which means that they eliminated
Speaker 1: the control group, making impossible, you say, for comparative safety
Speaker 1: determinations be made about the vaccine itself. This is going
Speaker 1: back to talk.
Speaker 5: About satantic science.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 6: All of us learn in each grade what a scientific
Speaker 6: study is A you have a group that gets the
Speaker 6: act ingredient. You have a group that is a placebo
Speaker 6: group that is the control. So Pfiser injected the placbo group.
Speaker 6: They vaccinated the placquot that no one could follow over
Speaker 6: time if the ones that got injected were sicker than
Speaker 6: the ones that didn't.
Speaker 5: And you ever heard of that. THEA had all of this.
Speaker 9: The FDA knew about all of it, and they know
Speaker 9: all about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry to interrupt, No, no, I'm interrupting you. You
Speaker 1: you've got the information here.
Speaker 5: Well, it's so.
Speaker 6: Important to recognize this isn't a rogue corporation, this is
Speaker 6: our own Food and Drug Administration. A lot of these
Speaker 6: secret internal documents say FDA confidential at the bottom. The
Speaker 6: lawsuit by Attorney Aaron Siri that got these into the
Speaker 6: public wasn't against Pfiser, it was against the Food and
Speaker 6: Drug Administration. And a week after our book that Pfiser
Speaker 6: papers was published, the FDA went back to that judge
Speaker 6: and asked that judge to stop releasing the documents.
Speaker 5: That's how open and transparent they are.
Speaker 6: So what people should really understand, what I've certainly taken
Speaker 6: away in my own life and advising my loved ones,
Speaker 6: especially those were vaccinated, is that you can't trust the
Speaker 6: FDA to protect you from anything. You can't trust our government.
Speaker 6: You know, if they say something is safe and effective,
Speaker 6: you literally cannot know. And you know, case number one
Speaker 6: is what we reveal in Pfiser papers, because the FDA
Speaker 6: knew they were killing babies.
Speaker 5: They knew they were.
Speaker 6: Twelve hundred and twenty five deaths in three months. They
Speaker 6: knew that the adverse events were not what they were
Speaker 6: telling the world, you know, pain at the injection site,
Speaker 6: a little fatigues and chills and fever. No, they knew.
Speaker 6: The adverse events in the Phiser papers were thousands of
Speaker 6: blood clots, lung clots, le cloths, blood damage of all kinds,
Speaker 6: heart damage, paracarditis, myocarditis, florid neurological events at industrial scale, epilepsies, strokes,
Speaker 6: nerve damage. Everyone listening knows people who have tremors now
Speaker 6: and tremors since the injection.
Speaker 5: We know that Pizer documents revealed how that happened.
Speaker 6: The lipid nanoparticles degrade the milin sheath of the nerves,
Speaker 6: and they get harder for the nerves to conduct electrical impulses,
Speaker 6: which is how nerves work. There's so much skin damage,
Speaker 6: there's eye damage, there's liver damage, there's kidney damage. There's
Speaker 6: the lipid nanoparticles across the blood brain barrier. People have
Speaker 6: noticed changes in the personalities and reasoning of their vaccinated
Speaker 6: loved ones. We now know the mechan it's because these
Speaker 6: injections caused brain damage essentially and make it harder for
Speaker 6: people to engage in nuanced reasoning.
Speaker 3: Sorry, go ahead, No, I've just got to tell him.
Speaker 1: We're close to wrapping up here talking with doctor Naomi Wolf,
Speaker 1: the Pfizer papers, Pfizer's crimes against humanity, and all I
Speaker 1: got to tell you, doctor Wolf, is I am so
Speaker 1: glad without all this information being provided by Pfizer or
Speaker 1: the government or anyone else, that I denied the jab
Speaker 1: and I never I never took the bait because my
Speaker 1: BS detector was just going off. It was like four
Speaker 1: five alarm fire in March of twenty twenty, and I said, no,
Speaker 1: this is not something that I am going to be
Speaker 1: involved with. I just you know, whether it was the mask,
Speaker 1: whether it was the mask mandates, whether it was six
Speaker 1: feet from somebody, whether it was staying inside your house,
Speaker 1: whether it was getting the job. I just said no,
Speaker 1: and because I knew internally without any knowledge, which I knew,
Speaker 1: And I'm just thankful, I.
Speaker 6: Mean thank god, but for everyone listening who did and
Speaker 6: for a lot of good reasons. Right, A lot of
Speaker 6: people did feed their families. A lot of people did
Speaker 6: it to take care of their families. Right, that's something
Speaker 6: we're being told.
Speaker 5: Don't kill grandma. I just want to say, like, end
Speaker 5: on a hopeful note, because this is so depressing.
Speaker 6: You will see from the prize of papers you'll understand
Speaker 6: more about what was done to you. But you'll also
Speaker 6: understand more about how to stay healthy. If we've really
Speaker 6: broken down what these injections do. So you know you,
Speaker 6: I mean, just wrap up. I tell my loved ones.
Speaker 6: You know, anti inflammatory diet. You keep your lymphatic system
Speaker 6: working well, right, whether it's saunas or trampolines or walking
Speaker 6: or you know, steaming, whatever you can do with that,
Speaker 6: and you know, don't take any more of these.
Speaker 5: Right, No more flu injections, no more mRNA, nothing right.
Speaker 6: The human body is miraculous, but we have to wake
Speaker 6: up and and take care of ourselves and each other.
Speaker 1: Doctor, Thank you so much. This is a acious conversation
Speaker 1: that needed to be had. And good luck with the books.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: o'clock hour on the Tuesday nights a week from election night,
Speaker 1: which way we will be here live on election night
Speaker 1: from ten to one with results for you. Are you
Speaker 1: nervous yet, but right now to talk about one of
Speaker 1: the candidates for president in the twenty twenty four election.
Speaker 1: And we're not talking about Donald J. Trump because I
Speaker 1: already I already like his salads. Let's talk about the
Speaker 1: word salads of Kamala Harris. And you know that has
Speaker 1: become a new phrase in this political election season as
Speaker 1: word salad. People probably never heard that before. And I
Speaker 1: recommend the grilled chicken with the word salad because then
Speaker 1: at least there will be something of substance there on
Speaker 1: your plate. We have with us JT. Young, who has
Speaker 1: been a political advisor campaign advisor. He's been writing about
Speaker 1: politics for some thirty years in Washington, d C. JT.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: And first off, how do you keep from becoming a
Speaker 1: swamp monster yourself after thirty years in Washington, d C.
Speaker 12: I really appreciate you having me on this evening. Gary.
Speaker 12: I don't know how you do it. I'm just fortunate
Speaker 12: that it hasn't take and I think living outside of
Speaker 12: Washington probably helps a little bit a little.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the book is there's a new book that JT
Speaker 1: has written called Unprecedented, a saulteal, a big government unleashed
Speaker 1: America's socialist left and we'll get into the book here
Speaker 1: a little bit, but have a thing out in town
Speaker 1: Hall today, and you're right for town Hall the Federalist.
Speaker 1: You're all over the place quite often. But the full
Speaker 1: article is Kamala harris most important and overlooked words salad.
Speaker 1: And I will tell you, as I was reading through
Speaker 1: some of this, I got to tell you I was
Speaker 1: right there with you. I don't know if I was
Speaker 1: ahead of the curve, but I was right there with
Speaker 1: you when ask about important issues. Of course, she never
Speaker 1: answers the question, but she did give a substantive answer
Speaker 1: in the one interview, and she's said it a couple
Speaker 1: of different times on fracking, on gun rights, on everything
Speaker 1: that she has been asked about the economy is her
Speaker 1: values haven't changed. So to me, that says, okay, you're
Speaker 1: the same leftist you were in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen, you have said.
Speaker 1: That's the only time I feel like Kamala Harris has
Speaker 1: been honest with the American voters. When she said in
Speaker 1: that interview, my values have not changed, I would.
Speaker 12: Agree with you. And I don't think she meant to
Speaker 12: be honest in that. I think you know what she's
Speaker 12: trying to do in that was to claim that she's
Speaker 12: changed her positions on fracking, on gender surgeries for inmates,
Speaker 12: on decriminalizing illegal immigrants, immigration, and other issues. She's trying
Speaker 12: to claim she's changed those position and then in order
Speaker 12: to hold her political left, she comes around with that
Speaker 12: wrap around, which is, but my values haven't changed, which
Speaker 12: in a very short period is a seemingly small word
Speaker 12: salad for Kamala Harris to toss, but it's a really
Speaker 12: important one because if you think about it, how do
Speaker 12: your positions change if your values haven't changed. I mean,
Speaker 12: you need to explain that. She refuses to do it.
Speaker 12: But she keeps laying down that same marker over and over.
Speaker 12: Just as you mentioned, you will hear this over and over.
Speaker 12: She'll come back to that, but my values haven't changed.
Speaker 1: Were you impressed when she told America that she was
Speaker 1: multiple times on the subject to the economy, that she
Speaker 1: was raised in a middle class neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Were you impressed?
Speaker 12: You know, it's just so, it's so like her. She
Speaker 12: will just keep going back and back to that, and
Speaker 12: you'll notice so often that comes up completely out of context.
Speaker 12: It will have nothing to do with the question that
Speaker 12: she's being asked, but she'll come back. They're almost like
Speaker 12: they're little touchstones for her. The same way as the
Speaker 12: values versus positions is that it almost seems like it's
Speaker 12: a comfort, a safe place.
Speaker 2: So it's like her, it's like her mental OCD.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think there is a lot of that, you know.
Speaker 12: She she clearly gets nervous in uh, she gets nervous
Speaker 12: in public settings. And when she's pressed, and this will
Speaker 12: often you'll see this that she'll laugh or she will
Speaker 12: want to make it as though it wasn't a serious question.
Speaker 12: One of the most famous was her interview when she
Speaker 12: went down to the southern border, or she hadn't gone
Speaker 12: with Lester Holt and he interviewed her and she comes
Speaker 12: off when he pressed her several times about when you're
Speaker 12: going to go to the southern border. She said she
Speaker 12: had gone, and he points out, no, no, you didn't.
Speaker 12: She gets she's very thin skinned. She said, either exactly,
Speaker 12: it's exactly it, and she'll laugh and she'll then she says,
Speaker 12: I don't get your point. Well, I mean, the point's
Speaker 12: very clear. You were saying that you went to the
Speaker 12: southern border when you hadn't, And he presses her and
Speaker 12: corrects the record on that. She's then quickly upset and
Speaker 12: she goes and says, just what you said, Well, I
Speaker 12: haven't been to Europe either, and she laughs, I don't
Speaker 12: get your point. Well, the point's very clear. You've been
Speaker 12: made the borders are you haven't been to the border?
Speaker 12: People are naturally questioned when you'll go, and she tries
Speaker 12: to deflect off of it and act like act like
Speaker 12: you know, there's something funny in her refusal to answer
Speaker 12: a question.
Speaker 1: It is truly amazing how she continues to dodge every question.
Speaker 1: I mean, she was being she was pretty successful at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the nomination if she'd been anointed without
Speaker 1: winning a single vote in any primary, and the Democrat
Speaker 1: Party said, okay, well we can't let this cognitive mess
Speaker 1: known as President forty six Joe Biden to run because
Speaker 1: it's obvious he's not up to the challenge mentally, and
Speaker 1: so they just installed her, which was quite Soviet Union
Speaker 1: style of politicking the Party of Democracy the Democrats. So
Speaker 1: but she avoided any kind of press dings and her
Speaker 1: campaign was humming right along.
Speaker 2: And the second that they.
Speaker 1: Were pressed and they had to put her on with
Speaker 1: Lester Holt or they had to you put her out
Speaker 1: at any number of interviews she's done in the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, We've seen the result, and the result
Speaker 1: is not good for the Harris campaign or the Democrats.
Speaker 1: It has been a total disaster the longer it goes.
Speaker 1: They thought that they had enough time to hide her,
Speaker 1: I think, and and then even the biased mainstream media
Speaker 1: wasn't going to let that happen, So, you know, good
Speaker 1: for them, they decided to be journalists again the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks.
Speaker 12: No, I think you're right, and I think the real
Speaker 12: key in both of these is where the polls were.
Speaker 12: And I'll go back to what you were saying about Biden.
Speaker 12: I'm fully convinced if Biden had been up by as
Speaker 12: much as he was down to Trump, they would have
Speaker 12: stayed with him. They would they would have told us
Speaker 12: all that were crazy, that you're not seeing what you're seeing.
Speaker 12: They would have stayed. The same applied to Harris doing
Speaker 12: her interviews if she was never able to open a
Speaker 12: comfortable margin in the polls and they had to put
Speaker 12: her out there to try to move the needle. So
Speaker 12: I don't think they did it because they wanted to.
Speaker 12: I think they did it out of necessity in both cases,
Speaker 12: and both of those necessities came out of the poor
Speaker 12: polling that they had against Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: It's moving the needle, all right, but not in their direction.
Speaker 1: I don't think I have said no. I have said
Speaker 1: for a month and a half with no reason to
Speaker 1: say this, especially with the left's history of subverting our
Speaker 1: elections with fakes like twenty twenty. Sorry, but I have
Speaker 1: said for a month and a half that I thought
Speaker 1: this was going to be one of the biggest landslides
Speaker 1: in history and managy, and it should well be for
Speaker 1: Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on that you got a crystal ball out there, bo.
Speaker 12: Let me polish it a little bit, Gar. I think
Speaker 12: what we're going to see is it will not be
Speaker 12: a landslide in the popular vote, but I think the
Speaker 12: potential is there for the electoral vote. The reason I
Speaker 12: say it on the popular vote is that Democrats run
Speaker 12: a surplus in the overall popular vote of about four
Speaker 12: and a half percent from California and New York alone.
Speaker 12: Both Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden did it in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 12: In twenty twenty, I'm guessing that Harris will do you know,
Speaker 12: within that range. So probably popular vote can't be a landslide,
Speaker 12: but the electoral vote you were just talking about could be.
Speaker 12: If she underperforms as she clearly is relative to Biden
Speaker 12: and the Clinton in the previous two elections. If she
Speaker 12: underperforms like she's currently underperforming, you could see you could
Speaker 12: easily see Trump sweeping the seven battel ground states and
Speaker 12: potentially moving into the second tier states as well, and
Speaker 12: that would include, you know, potentially Virginia, Minnesota, New Hampshire,
Speaker 12: even on the out chants New Mexico.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, can you imagine the hue and the
Speaker 1: cry from the Democrats if they lose Minnesota.
Speaker 12: I saw a poll I think just yesterday which had
Speaker 12: them up only three points in Minnesota, you know, which
Speaker 12: is that's margin of error sort of thing.
Speaker 2: And their governor's the vice presidential candidate, right, that guy.
Speaker 12: And they have and to your point, Minnesota has every
Speaker 12: incentive to make him vice president and get him out
Speaker 12: of Minnesota.
Speaker 2: So you're right, you're right about that.
Speaker 12: Now.
Speaker 1: President Trump had the huge rally at Madison Square Garden
Speaker 1: over the weekend on Sunday, and I saw it. It
Speaker 1: was it was electric. I can't imagine what it would
Speaker 1: have been like to be in that arena while that
Speaker 1: was happening, with all the star power and with President
Speaker 1: Trump's strong positive message that he conveyed to those and
Speaker 1: how how well it was received. And you mentioned California
Speaker 1: and New York. Is there is there any thinking within
Speaker 1: the Trump campaign do you believe that they think that
Speaker 1: maybe outside of New York City they could take the state.
Speaker 12: I would not be surprised outside of New York City,
Speaker 12: in fact, from having lived in New York State for
Speaker 12: you know, a while in upstate New York. The rest
Speaker 12: of New York has very little relation to New York
Speaker 12: City and performs much more like a Atlantic or rust
Speaker 12: belt state. It's completely different. And so to your point,
Speaker 12: it would not surprise me at all if he beats
Speaker 12: her everywhere but New York City. In fact, you see
Speaker 12: this sort of thing in so many states. Illinois. You know,
Speaker 12: if you took away Chicago, Republicans would run Illinois. If
Speaker 12: you took away New York City, Republicans would run New
Speaker 12: York State.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, I mean, I don't even know that. There's
Speaker 1: a whole lot of love for Kamala Harris and New
Speaker 1: York City. From what I've seen recently, you know.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 12: Obviously you know, they are feeling the illegal immigrant crisis
Speaker 12: on a daily basis. There. All you have to do
Speaker 12: is read, read the papers that are willing to cover it,
Speaker 12: and you will see it all right.
Speaker 2: Talking to JT.
Speaker 1: Young on the Nightcap here on seven hundred W l
Speaker 1: W and JT tell me about the unprecedented assault, how
Speaker 1: big government unleashed America's socialists left, and the points you
Speaker 1: make in the book.
Speaker 12: Well, I really appreciate that.
Speaker 11: Gary.
Speaker 12: The book just came out today was its release day,
Speaker 12: and I appreciate you bringing it up. It came out
Speaker 12: of I think the same questions that you have and
Speaker 12: so many of your listeners probably have, which is, how
Speaker 12: do you have a defund the police movement? How do
Speaker 12: you have a radical DEI movement that puts quota's overqualifications,
Speaker 12: an extremist environmental agenda, an open border policy. And the
Speaker 12: more I looked at these and thought with each one,
Speaker 12: you think, oh, this is an aberration, this can't be real.
Speaker 12: The more you looked at it, the more you saw
Speaker 12: in it the socialist left handiwork. And that brought me
Speaker 12: back to an age old question that has always been
Speaker 12: asked about America, which is how is there no socialism
Speaker 12: in America? Which was our history from the beginning of
Speaker 12: our country until well into this century. And I turned
Speaker 12: the question on the heads, which was how is there
Speaker 12: socialism now? And so the book is really meant as
Speaker 12: an explanation as to how the socialist left has now
Speaker 12: the ability to move into political I don't want to
Speaker 12: say mainstream, but into the political consciousness of America for
Speaker 12: the first time in our history.
Speaker 1: Well, and here's the thing, JT is that big government
Speaker 1: is exactly what socialism is. And my friend says, you know,
Speaker 1: bigger is better, but not necessarily in government. He said,
Speaker 1: we don't have big government. We have obese government, and
Speaker 1: we do and that breeds socialism and ultimately Marxism. Every
Speaker 1: time the government becomes bigger and becomes more more centralized
Speaker 1: and more controlling of everyone's lives, we need I mean,
Speaker 1: there needs to be a giant axe taken to Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. To these agencies and these departments. God, I
Speaker 1: hope Donald Trump can fix that with a slashing of regulation.
Speaker 1: And listen, wouldn't you like to see, for example, the
Speaker 1: Department of Education ended immediately upon Trump taking office the
Speaker 1: Department of Energy too. We can do without both of
Speaker 1: those bureaucracies, and they are only their big government issued
Speaker 1: socialist type of agencies that are not necessary to a
Speaker 1: constitutional republic like the United States of America.
Speaker 2: Do you agree or not?
Speaker 12: What I'd love to see from both of those agencies
Speaker 12: is a thorough review within their where are the regulations
Speaker 12: that are inhibiting the things that allow the sectors that
Speaker 12: we're supposed to oversee succeed. In the case of education,
Speaker 12: how do we promote school choice? You see it on
Speaker 12: a state by state basis, and you see this movement going,
Speaker 12: which is something conservatives should embrace, which is from the
Speaker 12: supply side, we need competition and on the demand side,
Speaker 12: we need choice, and that is school choice. In the
Speaker 12: Department of Energy, how do we start to fully develop
Speaker 12: all of America's resources and we don't have a better
Speaker 12: clean energy source than natural gas? What are we doing
Speaker 12: that promotes this? What can we do that they're prohibiting.
Speaker 1: This and we have trillions of cubic gallons of it
Speaker 1: right under our feet in America and Trump has made
Speaker 1: that very clear.
Speaker 12: I mean, we have it here. Any other country that
Speaker 12: had what we have is laughing at us right now, thinking,
Speaker 12: how at the world could you be sitting on an
Speaker 12: asset of such a magnitude that would create jobs here,
Speaker 12: That if you had it and we're developing it to
Speaker 12: its absolute fullest potential, would also help you geopolitically, because
Speaker 12: Europe would love to buy as much as we can get.
Speaker 12: We would give them a secure source. It would help
Speaker 12: our balance of trade, It would create jobs here, it
Speaker 12: would secure our alliances. They would not be dependent on
Speaker 12: insecure oil. Oil and gas that's coming and we all
Speaker 12: know where it used to be from Russia. It's such
Speaker 12: so obvious, and yet we don't do on it.
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, it's the word salads and JT. Young, the
Speaker 1: author of Unprecedented Assault, how big government unleashed America's socialists left,
Speaker 1: enjoyed the conversation, JT.
Speaker 2: And hopefully we can do it again soon.
Speaker 12: I hope so too, Gary, And have a good evening.
Speaker 1: Hey you too, and maybe we'll do it in a
Speaker 1: free America with Donald Trump as president.
Speaker 12: Let's talk after the election, all right, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. It's the nightcap and it continues
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Speaker 1: meant for the Trump campaign? And we'll probably get into
Speaker 1: some other things as well while we're at it. He's
Speaker 1: author of the best selling book Broken Windows, Broken Business.
Speaker 1: Now that's going back, that's going back aways, Michael, that
Speaker 1: particular book, what was that?
Speaker 2: What was that particular book about?
Speaker 12: Well?
Speaker 11: Broken Windows? Broken Business is a book.
Speaker 4: It's a business book, and it's predicated on the broken
Speaker 4: windows theory of criminology, which simply says that if you
Speaker 4: go into a neighborhood and you see some graffiti or
Speaker 4: a broken window and the authorities don't repair it quickly,
Speaker 4: meaning within say seventy two hours, it sends a signal
Speaker 4: to the neighbors to the tourist to the business owners
Speaker 4: that the bad guys are in charge, and further in
Speaker 4: greater crime ensues. And so I took that theory and
Speaker 4: moved it into business and said, if you go into
Speaker 4: a restaurant, you go into their bathroom, it's a bit dirty.
Speaker 4: You start to think, well, maybe the kitchen isn't too clean,
Speaker 4: and so forth and so on. Little details matter a
Speaker 4: lot in business, and Broken Windows has been an international bestseller.
Speaker 11: Now, well, you can't believe I'm going to say this
Speaker 11: for eighteen years.
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 1: What are the broken windows and broken businesses in a
Speaker 1: city like San Francisco? Say, since you're a California resident.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think our friends, my friends in San
Speaker 4: Francisco are too pleased with me right now, No, because
Speaker 4: that is a city once one of the most beautiful
Speaker 4: cities in the world, I think, and now a below
Speaker 4: a third world nation.
Speaker 11: It is actually below a third world nation. I mean,
Speaker 11: the third world nations do not have.
Speaker 3: It's.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's so tragic. And then, of course I
Speaker 4: could do if I wanted to with you. Yeah, San Francisco,
Speaker 4: we got Okay, that's horrible, horrible. Who would have ever
Speaker 4: thought San Francisco would be basically a.
Speaker 12: No go zone.
Speaker 11: Okay, yeah, yeah, yes, sir, yes sir.
Speaker 4: Then we go, of course to Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles,
Speaker 4: New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, New Orleans, Atlanta.
Speaker 11: Should I continue?
Speaker 2: I think you're on the right track. I mean, you
Speaker 2: miss you miss Baltimore.
Speaker 1: But outside of the crab cakes, there's no reason to
Speaker 1: go to Baltimore outside of the crab cakes. But go ahead,
Speaker 1: well yeah.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, first of all, you should go to
Speaker 11: none of these cities without without a shotgun. It's really
Speaker 11: quite something and horrible thought.
Speaker 4: I just can't imagine how we could have allowed ourselves
Speaker 4: to permit this, and yet we did, and yet we did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's still continuing in some of those places
Speaker 1: that it's full on, and yet the voters keep on
Speaker 1: voting for the same people that put.
Speaker 4: That is correct, that it's there must be some psychological explanation,
Speaker 4: like almost like a death wish, almost a suicide urge,
Speaker 4: because at this point in the story, to not recognize, listen,
Speaker 4: I would vote, if I would recommend that whichever party
Speaker 4: brought this decay to your city, these cities, major urban areas,
Speaker 4: and that is with all respect. I say, this is
Speaker 4: a political independent. It's one party and one party only.
Speaker 4: It's the Democratic Party. Dear friends, facts are stubborn things.
Speaker 11: Now, if if I were voting in that city, I
Speaker 11: would vote for anything. I would vote for my pet.
Speaker 4: Then another Democrat who is going to continue policies maybe
Speaker 4: well intentioned.
Speaker 11: They may well be well intentioned.
Speaker 4: But they're policies that are miserable failures, that are bringing
Speaker 4: about decay that is literally unprecedented in our American experiment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and it's just it is me.
Speaker 1: I like the analogy of maybe these voters have some
Speaker 1: court of sort of a death wish.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe it's a it's a it's a psychological conundrum.
Speaker 11: I don't understand it.
Speaker 8: It's I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Michael. Let's talk about your latest
Speaker 1: piece about it about the power of Elon Musk in
Speaker 1: this election and how it affects the vote. We are
Speaker 1: one week away from election night and voting is already ongoing.
Speaker 1: How much does Elon Musk move the needle you think
Speaker 1: in this particular campaign for Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: On a scale of zero to ten, it's my opinion
Speaker 4: that Elon Musk is a twelve. Wow, Now why do
Speaker 4: I say that. Let's let's calm down a minute here
Speaker 4: and say.
Speaker 1: Why do I say that?
Speaker 4: Well, because, whether you like or hate Elon Musk, everyone
Speaker 4: recognizes any fair person that he's a genius. He is
Speaker 4: a genius, that he's accomplished things that no reasonable person
Speaker 4: could have ever.
Speaker 11: Imagined, and then some. And so when he comes out.
Speaker 4: And endorses Donald Trump as emphatically as he has, I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 11: I don't know of any living person in the world
Speaker 11: who you could get to compete with that.
Speaker 4: Elon Musk is in a category, unto himself, arguably bigger
Speaker 4: and more impactful than Steve Jobs.
Speaker 11: I never thought I'd say that in my life, but
Speaker 11: yet I did.
Speaker 4: Maybe the greatest capitalist for creative force, creat a business
Speaker 4: force in the history of the world.
Speaker 10: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Let's let's compare it.
Speaker 1: Let's compare and contrast Elon Musk, Michael with some of
Speaker 1: Kamal Ahead Paris is surrogates, so big, big power, political.
Speaker 13: Power beyond Yeah, George Clooney, Taylor Swift, Springsteen, Taylor Swift,
Speaker 13: these are very, very, very big celebrity names.
Speaker 4: But the question becomes, do they have the credibility that
Speaker 4: will make your life better.
Speaker 11: Taylor Swift's life is fine, Darling.
Speaker 3: You have to trust me on that.
Speaker 11: Taylor George Clooney's life is fine.
Speaker 4: I'm worried about missus mcgillicutty's life. Who lives in Detroit
Speaker 4: or Chicago or Baltimore, San Francisco, or Portland or Seattle
Speaker 4: or Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: I actually know missus McGillicutty. She's doing okay, but her
Speaker 1: husband had a great life insurance policy.
Speaker 11: She does, she's not. Let me tell you something different,
Speaker 11: and we may differ on this. She is not doing okay.
Speaker 1: He's not.
Speaker 11: If she's living she's not. If she's living in those cities, right,
Speaker 11: andalties are not doing okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we will go back to the beginning of our conversation.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Yeah, and America is not doing okay if
Speaker 4: you believe that living in a nation called the United
Speaker 4: States of America, in which we are now ranked, I
Speaker 4: believe thirtieth.
Speaker 11: In the world's public education systems. Thirtieth. Wow, we are below.
Speaker 4: Listen to this, brother, we are ranked. Currently, the United
Speaker 4: States of America's public education system is ranked below Vietnam
Speaker 4: and for those of us of a certain age. I
Speaker 4: remember bombing Vietnam back into the Stone Age, right.
Speaker 1: Right, and it's they're ranked above and it's a communist nation.
Speaker 2: It's a communist nation.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 1: In America, the thing that needs to happen in our
Speaker 1: public education is number one. We need to get government
Speaker 1: more and more out of public education in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Correct and correct. We also need school.
Speaker 1: Choice and competition so parents can be there's their own
Speaker 1: tax dollars to put their children where they feel like
Speaker 1: they're being taught the real lessons that are needed and
Speaker 1: that they values that these parents espouse.
Speaker 4: What can I give you a couple of other recommendations
Speaker 4: for restoring American education?
Speaker 11: These are pretty simple fixes.
Speaker 1: Let's try these out.
Speaker 8: Ready to go.
Speaker 4: Number one, starting tomorrow, from kindergarten to twelfth grade, there
Speaker 4: will be school uniforms. Oh okay, starting tomorrow, no more
Speaker 4: cut off T shirts and holy.
Speaker 11: This and and jeans and see through top.
Speaker 8: No no, no, no, no no no. We're going to
Speaker 8: have school uniforms.
Speaker 11: Kindergarten to twelfth grade.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that's right.
Speaker 4: Number two, every child in America from kindergarten to twelfth
Speaker 4: grade will be either asked to stand for the Pledge
Speaker 4: of allegiance or or if you choose not to stand,
Speaker 4: you can leave the classroom, you can leave, you can
Speaker 4: stand outside in a gym or something. But we will
Speaker 4: have a pledge of allegiance starting tomorrow in America, and
Speaker 4: I promise you those two things would have enormous impact
Speaker 4: on the culture, on the mindset of American education.
Speaker 11: So the union they cost the.
Speaker 2: Uniform are because.
Speaker 4: Because God sees the inside and humans see the outside,
Speaker 4: if you dress like a thug, you.
Speaker 11: Will be treated like a thug.
Speaker 4: You may be the sweetest person in the world, the
Speaker 4: most heavenly kind, moral person in the world, but if
Speaker 4: you dress like a thug, you're going to be treated
Speaker 4: like a thug. If you dress like a loser, you're
Speaker 4: going to be treated like a loser. As school uniform
Speaker 4: answers that question completely and totally.
Speaker 2: So everybody's the same.
Speaker 10: I E.
Speaker 1: Uniform And yes, you're not focused on fashion. You're focused
Speaker 1: on till.
Speaker 4: I want you focused on one thing, education, not in doctrination,
Speaker 4: Education not indoctrination.
Speaker 1: Well, we have a whole lot of doctrination going on
Speaker 1: right now in our public schools. Your c RT and
Speaker 1: other these woke policies, the social engineering and.
Speaker 4: DEI Diversity Equity Inclusion, a very lovely sounding, poetic sounding movement, right,
Speaker 4: d EI Diversity Edge Equity Inclusion.
Speaker 11: Who could be opposed to that? I don't sound so good, but.
Speaker 4: In fact it's nothing more than gift raptor disguised racism.
Speaker 2: And and it guarantees mediocrity.
Speaker 11: Oh, you're being kind, you're being kind, mediocrity. I wish
Speaker 11: it it produced mediocrity.
Speaker 4: Okay, Now, as Wilson friends, we've got big, big, big,
Speaker 4: big problems. And if you want to believe certain gas
Speaker 4: lighting statements by others.
Speaker 11: Everything's great and doestic wonderful. By the way, do you
Speaker 11: remember all that a few months ago, just a few months.
Speaker 4: Ago, everybody, including Vice President Harris, Oh, Joe Biden's great,
Speaker 4: never been better, everything's great, never been sharper right?
Speaker 11: Really really? How gas lighting America? How the love of
Speaker 11: the Lord?
Speaker 1: How can anyone who is that close to that man
Speaker 1: after what we've seen publicly deny his cognitive abilities?
Speaker 4: Have There's only there's only two explanations. Okay, you're either
Speaker 4: corrupt or you're stupid. You're either corrupt. You you know
Speaker 4: that it will benefit you to lie, So you're that
Speaker 4: would be corrupt or you're stupid. Now, since I don't
Speaker 4: think miss Harris is brilliant, but I certainly don't think
Speaker 4: she's stupid.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Well, listen, friend, I choose to be generous in my
Speaker 4: assessments people. And look, a bright ten year old, a
Speaker 4: bright ten year old should have been able to figure
Speaker 4: out Daddy, that man is not well. And if you're
Speaker 4: trying to tell me that Kamala Harris did not know,
Speaker 4: did not recognize, did not see that. The chief of
Speaker 4: staff didn't know, none of the aides knew. The Vice president,
Speaker 4: the Secretary of State didn't know.
Speaker 8: Really, and you want me to believe this, Billy, this
Speaker 8: is fascinating.
Speaker 1: Well, Michael, I tell you what, give me, Give me
Speaker 1: one more minute on Elon Musk where we started this conversation.
Speaker 2: Tell me, tell me well, his health.
Speaker 11: He is unique, He's unique.
Speaker 4: And for him to come out with this level of passion,
Speaker 4: with this level of intensity, with this level of risk, Frankly, remember,
Speaker 4: if Donald Trump doesn't win, Elon Musk remains in business
Speaker 4: and the Democrats will be out for him as.
Speaker 11: A target number one.
Speaker 4: And we know their record on targeting people when they
Speaker 4: when they choose.
Speaker 11: So, Uh, he's taken a all in bold.
Speaker 4: Gamble and I think it's tremendously impactful, powerful.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 11: For the momentum.
Speaker 14: If you said, if I said to you today or
Speaker 14: to your listeners, any listener, who do you believe in
Speaker 14: the last two weeks, over the last two weeks till
Speaker 14: today has the momentum.
Speaker 4: Not who's winning, not who's going to be better, not
Speaker 4: who's smarter, not who's more attractive, more joy filled, but
Speaker 4: who has the momentum over the last two weeks, I'd say, Well,
Speaker 4: I'm you know, obviously I'm not I'm not sure.
Speaker 11: But if you're asking me.
Speaker 4: Intuitively, who has the momentum, I would say Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question. Michael Levine, thank you
Speaker 1: so much. And you know, Elon Musk didn't have to
Speaker 1: do this, just like Donald Trump, he did not have
Speaker 1: to run for president.
Speaker 12: Again, he didn't.
Speaker 11: That is correct, correct, that is accurate.
Speaker 1: And you're talking about Harry talking about how bold this
Speaker 1: was for him to come out there knowing that if
Speaker 1: Trump loses, he could be in the the sights of
Speaker 1: the Democrats for the rest of his life. Could be,
Speaker 1: will be, will be Yes, Michael Levine, Thank you, sir,
Speaker 1: great bless God, bless you. Take care Andy Furman coming
Speaker 1: up in just a little bit. As we continue on
Speaker 1: this nightcap on seven hundred, WLW feeds it down the
Speaker 1: side into the final hour of the nightcap. Here at
Speaker 1: the top of this eleven o'clock hour, it is time
Speaker 1: to turn to a place that we often turn to
Speaker 1: when we have questions, when we have concerns, when we
Speaker 1: want to know about the important things, the truly important things,
Speaker 1: you know, that matter to most Americans, like sports. And
Speaker 1: when we talk about sports and we have questions and
Speaker 1: we have concerns that we need answered and addressed, we
Speaker 1: often go to our next guest. As we start this
Speaker 1: hour of the nightcap, please welcome back to our Era waves,
Speaker 1: the one and only fur Ball, Andy Furman. Good evening.
Speaker 8: Thank you you read it just the way I wrote it.
Speaker 8: Thank you so very much. You're a good man. I
Speaker 8: don't care. I don't care what Scott Reinhart says you
Speaker 8: are a good man.
Speaker 2: I mean, he hasn't talked to me in months, so.
Speaker 8: Well, you want to know why I don't want to
Speaker 8: go into that. I don't want to bring it up.
Speaker 8: All right, there's a reason why.
Speaker 1: Obviously, Scott, I have a wonderful relation.
Speaker 8: He is the he is as long as you think
Speaker 8: so boss.
Speaker 1: As he is the boss, I am the employee, and
Speaker 1: he treats me with fairness and respect. And that's all
Speaker 1: I ask.
Speaker 8: Andy, And I'll tell you what. I'm just glad you're
Speaker 8: here because you have a tendency of not being able
Speaker 8: to read the cock correctly. But that's another story.
Speaker 1: Read what correctly?
Speaker 8: Well, I'm turtally ready. I want on Friday, I believe
Speaker 8: it was, and you were like late.
Speaker 11: I mean, come on, really, well it was Thursday, Yeah,
Speaker 11: you were working.
Speaker 8: You forgot you got to work that day.
Speaker 1: It was Thursday. I was filling in for Sloan and
Speaker 1: it slipped through the crow act. You know what I do?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Two thousand straight performances on time and I'm I miss
Speaker 1: one and all of a sudden, I'm a slacker?
Speaker 12: Is that?
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying? You're trying to.
Speaker 8: Okay, wait, it's always what have you done for me lately?
Speaker 8: Just like Aaron Judge in the post, I was going.
Speaker 1: To say, my average has been a lot better than
Speaker 1: Aaron Judges over the past.
Speaker 8: His paychecks and a lot bigger than yours.
Speaker 1: So you know, even probably other things on him that
Speaker 1: are a lot bigger than mine, too, Andy, But I
Speaker 1: don't want to talk.
Speaker 2: About that either.
Speaker 8: I'm not going to leave that with Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Why can't Aaron Judge shine under the biggest spotlight in
Speaker 1: the sport? I mean, this is not the only World
Speaker 1: Series where he has been somewhat missing and deficient up
Speaker 1: to this point.
Speaker 8: You know, you're exactly right. I think there are several
Speaker 8: athletes you need, a lot of athletes really that could
Speaker 8: not handle pressure under the big life. One of them,
Speaker 8: in particular, I think it's Lamar Jackson. But when m
Speaker 8: VP and m VP and m VP, but when it
Speaker 8: comes to like the big playoffso perhaps even trying to
Speaker 8: get to the super Bowl, he cringes, and look, I
Speaker 8: get it. Sometimes as to play here or play there,
Speaker 8: can't get it done. But Aaron Judge has been very
Speaker 8: consistent of being very inconsistent in the.
Speaker 2: Postseason indeed to this point, I mean, right.
Speaker 8: Which is not taking away anything about his stardom. He's
Speaker 8: a tremendous player, really, he really is. But you know,
Speaker 8: really and truly he carries the Yankees and so much
Speaker 8: that on his back. If it wasn't for Wan Soto,
Speaker 8: they wouldn't even be in the postseason right now, in
Speaker 8: the World Series. But honestly, you know, if you're a
Speaker 8: Yankee fan, you got to be somewhat frustrated and down,
Speaker 8: you know, going into tonight three in the three Zip
Speaker 8: and no team is going to come back.
Speaker 2: I figured that.
Speaker 1: That maybe you, originally being from Brooklyn, would be rooting
Speaker 1: for the Dodgers anyway, Andy.
Speaker 8: Of course, Oh sure, well, yeah, the Kofax you see, Yes,
Speaker 8: of course, yes, So, I mean I love the Dodgers.
Speaker 8: I mean, it was the time of my life. I
Speaker 8: was a little bitter the way they packed up and left.
Speaker 8: But you know, sometimes you have to go to greeted pastures.
Speaker 8: And you know, the people of Brooklyn, in particular, some
Speaker 8: of the politicians didn't want to build in the stadium
Speaker 8: where they wanted it in downtown Brooklyn, where eventually Barclay
Speaker 8: Center with the Nets play. That's basically where the Dodgers
Speaker 8: wanted to have a stadium. So I think Brooklyn's probably
Speaker 8: better served anyway with basketball. Is the city gained in baseball,
Speaker 8: So everything works out everything happens for a reason.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, anything other than Aaron Judges World Series
Speaker 1: impotence that you wanted to talk about tonight.
Speaker 8: Well, the impotence of our own Cincinnati Bengals. I don't
Speaker 8: get it, you know, I honestly think that people in
Speaker 8: this city have to back off a little bit and
Speaker 8: stopped talking about worrying about the expectations of this team. Really,
Speaker 8: I mean, prior to the season, it was like Super
Speaker 8: Bowl or bust.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 8: Right now it's playoffs for a bust, and it looks
Speaker 8: like it's going to be busted. Really, I mean, I
Speaker 8: get it. I mean you're excited, you're happy, you're looking
Speaker 8: forward to the season. But let's face it. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 8: I mean the roster looks pretty good. There's something missing,
Speaker 8: and look, I'll say you what the missing the missing
Speaker 8: links are. They don't have a running game, and the
Speaker 8: defense thinks bingo. That's basically it.
Speaker 2: Why don't you.
Speaker 1: Lay the blame where it always goes on NFL coaches
Speaker 1: who do not rise to the occasion and rally their
Speaker 1: teams together for wins. I just see no life at
Speaker 1: all in this Zach Taylor world. For the Bengals to
Speaker 1: do anything. They got to the Super Bowl once. That
Speaker 1: was on the back of Joe Burrow, by the way,
Speaker 1: and they're never going to see it again as long
Speaker 1: as that man is in charge on the sidelines either offensively.
Speaker 8: I want to back off. I want to give Zach
Speaker 8: Taylor some credit, all right, went to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 8: He's won several playoff games, which basically his criticism Marvel
Speaker 8: Lewis was owing seven in the playoffs. So basically he's
Speaker 8: accompassed more than Marvin Lewis has done. Whatever that means,
Speaker 8: I don't know, but he's done well.
Speaker 1: Right, So it's time. It's time for a next level coach.
Speaker 1: While Burrow still has some career left and Jamar Chase
Speaker 1: is going to be signed with a big contract, perhaps
Speaker 1: at the end of this year, and maybe that doesn't
Speaker 1: happen depending on what the Bengals final season record is
Speaker 1: this season, Andy, I mean, Marvin Lewis got him to
Speaker 1: a certain place with the players he had. Zach Taylor
Speaker 1: has got them to a certain place once with the
Speaker 1: players they have, and maybe it's time for somebody else
Speaker 1: to take them to that next level. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 8: I will say this, This team was built on the
Speaker 8: offensive side of the football. I think you have to
Speaker 8: have balance to win in the National Football League. Well,
Speaker 8: I mean by balance you have to have a good
Speaker 8: running game balancing out with a passing game. This game
Speaker 8: was built the choke bow and T Higgins and Jamar
Speaker 8: Chase and the bottom line, once they were gonna win
Speaker 8: games like for a score of forty one to thirty
Speaker 8: eight and shootouts, they know the defense was going to
Speaker 8: be bad.
Speaker 11: T Higgins has been down.
Speaker 8: I would venture to say that if T. Higgins was
Speaker 8: healthy on Sunday, they probably would have won. They probably
Speaker 8: would have won that game. Now forget the term money back,
Speaker 8: because he ain't anything but money this year. I don't
Speaker 8: know what happened to his leg. Maybe he's got gout.
Speaker 8: I don't know what the hell's wrong with him. But
Speaker 8: the point is you can't, no, really, you can't count
Speaker 8: on him anymore. But I'll say this, there are certain
Speaker 8: coaches that when they're dismissed from one team, you really
Speaker 8: kind of hope they don't go in the same division
Speaker 8: as you will play against you. For example, Vic Fangio,
Speaker 8: the defensive coordinator of the Eagles, tremendous, tremendous coach, and
Speaker 8: he really adapted defensively against the Bengals on Sunday. Bengals
Speaker 8: in the third quarter, I think it was, they went
Speaker 8: third and one twice and they couldn't make it for
Speaker 8: a first down third and one and then fourth and
Speaker 8: one that they missed twice. I mean, these are unbelievable
Speaker 8: situations that shouldn't happen in the National Football League. If
Speaker 8: you look statistically, teams that are three third down and
Speaker 8: won to go no matter where they're at in the field,
Speaker 8: eighty five percent of the time they make it. They
Speaker 8: didn't make it. So the play calling is questionable right there,
Speaker 8: to say the least. But the running game is non existent.
Speaker 8: And that's the problem. And I remember way back in
Speaker 8: July when the Bengals had their preseason lunch. I went
Speaker 8: to that lunch and I is point blank to Zach Taylor,
Speaker 8: you know what about the loss of your running back
Speaker 8: who is now in Houston, right, Joe Mixon, exactly to
Speaker 8: affect this ball. Go oh, we'll be fine, you know,
Speaker 8: we'll be fine in the run game. That's what he
Speaker 8: told me. All right, and far be it for me,
Speaker 8: you know, do not believe it because the next play
Speaker 8: that I call, the next game I coached in the
Speaker 8: National Football they would go on first. So I believed it.
Speaker 8: But you know what it wasn't you. He's been mixed,
Speaker 8: he's been missed. Joe Mixon has been missed. There's no
Speaker 8: running game. And again, I hate to be long winded here,
Speaker 8: but I'll go one more example. When the Philadelphia Eagles
Speaker 8: parted ways with Andy Reid, Andy Reid found the new
Speaker 8: life in Kansas City. I'm also certain Kansas City would
Speaker 8: be successful.
Speaker 11: Without Andy Reid.
Speaker 8: You Patrick, European Kids City fans, Patrick Mahlmes is very
Speaker 8: creative thanks to Andy Reid. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 8: Remember one thing a Texas Tech. They were a losing
Speaker 8: team in record when he played at Texas Tech. So
Speaker 8: Andy Reid brought the I guess the best out of
Speaker 8: them if you will. And he's done that over the
Speaker 8: years with quarterbacks Donovan Nab in Philadelphia, he was there.
Speaker 8: He was there. So when you're losing Andy Reid and
Speaker 8: he goes to another team, he brings a lot with them.
Speaker 8: I'm not so certain if the Bengals lose Zach Taylor,
Speaker 8: he's going to bring a lot to another team if
Speaker 8: in fact, he either gets a job with another team.
Speaker 1: I love it when you're long winded because it proves
Speaker 1: that you're you're breathing fine, and that's nice.
Speaker 8: I'm taking a rest now.
Speaker 1: You don't have to push a mirror under your nose
Speaker 1: to make sure you're still alive.
Speaker 8: You know, if no, I get really frustrated with this situation.
Speaker 8: I really did, because you know, it's the same old,
Speaker 8: same old every year in this town. And I'm not
Speaker 8: upset with the players as much. They're getting their big
Speaker 8: paid chips, and honestly, I don't think they should. Because
Speaker 8: I watched that game in the fourth quarter, I can
Speaker 8: honestly say it looked like they quit. I feel bad
Speaker 8: for the fans that are lining up. I've heard the
Speaker 8: promotions on the radio during the games. On radio. You know,
Speaker 8: it's one hundred dollars deposit to get online, get on
Speaker 8: the get on the list for season tickets. That list
Speaker 8: is going to disappear real soon, it's going to disappear.
Speaker 8: We've seen it. Five years ago. They were obtably thirty
Speaker 8: thousand a game. Really, you know, it happens.
Speaker 2: The list isn't going to disappear.
Speaker 1: The list is just going to get longer as they
Speaker 1: try to encourage people to come back for a subpar product.
Speaker 1: And and you talk about coaches going to another team, Boy,
Speaker 1: Brian Callahan's really helped the Tennessee Titans this year, Andy,
Speaker 1: and he was part of Zach Taylor's coaching squad.
Speaker 8: Well, I will say this, I would say that give
Speaker 8: give Callahan another year or two. I mean, he's got
Speaker 8: nothing to work with. He really doesn't. He's had no
Speaker 8: cornerback over there. I mean, you know, really, I mean,
Speaker 8: you give him a break. I mean, so to give
Speaker 8: him the first is going to be a learning experience.
Speaker 1: The Bengals coaching tree right now is it's like the
Speaker 1: Charlie Brown Christmas tree on the Christmas Special. That's that's
Speaker 1: what it is. It's it's pathetic. It can't even hold
Speaker 1: an ornament. And Zach Taylor is the head of that
Speaker 1: coaching staff. So you tell me where that is, huh.
Speaker 8: I will compliment the Bengals and what they have done
Speaker 8: everything off the football field, the Ring of Honor, the
Speaker 8: promotions of the excitement they've brought, you know, with the
Speaker 8: fans and the fan relationships, the social media everything that
Speaker 8: they have done is really great off the field. But
Speaker 8: you know what that means, Diddley, if you don't win.
Speaker 11: And all cares.
Speaker 8: It's all about winning in sports right now. I remember
Speaker 8: as a kid, I'd go to the Yankee Games as
Speaker 8: a kiddy Yankee seam and they did win, but I
Speaker 8: didn't care if they won or lost. I probably even
Speaker 8: know what their record was. I was just so excited
Speaker 8: to go. I don't think right now is the same.
Speaker 8: I think the mindset now is I want to go,
Speaker 8: and I want to see a good product. Why I'm
Speaker 8: paying good, hard earned money to see this, and I've
Speaker 8: better be good. It better be worth my while to
Speaker 8: spend my time and my hard earned money to see
Speaker 8: him play. I think that's the mindset now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it ain't. It ain't cheap.
Speaker 1: Uh So, I wanted to ask you about some burgeoning
Speaker 1: controversy in some quarters over this the Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: quarterback Tom Prady, who has become now a color commentator
Speaker 1: on the NFL games, living his best life making millions
Speaker 1: of dollars for sitting in a booth instead of taking
Speaker 1: sacks and running for his life and throwing touchdown passes
Speaker 1: and winning Super bowls, but in taking a break in
Speaker 1: the booth, he got in trouble for apparently using what
Speaker 1: was called by some an ablest slur. I'd never heard
Speaker 1: of an ablest slur before, but this was in reference
Speaker 1: to his comment about Josh Allen, the quarterback of the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, where he said, yeah, Josh Allen used to
Speaker 1: be a spaz but he so the word spaz is
Speaker 1: a slur. Uh Number one. I know lots of people
Speaker 1: that are are a spaz like and that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: they've got a disability. But the writer, whoever, whoever struck
Speaker 1: this out in the latest woke word salad cancel culture
Speaker 1: in which we live thought that spaz was a slur
Speaker 1: and he was shocked to Tom Brady used that on
Speaker 1: live television.
Speaker 2: Your thoughts, Sandy first, too.
Speaker 8: Long to say, Hey, Tom, welcome to the wonderful world
Speaker 8: of media.
Speaker 12: I love it.
Speaker 8: I love it. He's part of the group, he's part
Speaker 8: of our club. You've been chastised. I've been chastised bit
Speaker 8: DoD be for out of the throughout of the ring
Speaker 8: at times. Okay, so welcome to that. Because everybody's got
Speaker 8: their eyes on you. Everybody wants to say I got you,
Speaker 8: I got you. What he did say is sometimes he
Speaker 8: played like a spaz, like a great schooler on a
Speaker 8: sugar high. But now he's controlled the chaos. Okay, and
Speaker 8: all of a sudden now by saying that Tom Brady
Speaker 8: has created his own chaos by people who just don't
Speaker 8: have a life they really don't have. First of all,
Speaker 8: I want to say this. If the word is poorer
Speaker 8: and the word is bad, I want to know about it.
Speaker 11: Make up a book.
Speaker 8: Give me a book with people with things I can't say. Certainly,
Speaker 8: I know the obvious you can't say, right, the seven
Speaker 8: gifted words that you can't say what, But give give
Speaker 8: me a list of words I can't say, so I
Speaker 8: won't say them. But don't don't go out there and
Speaker 8: just slop me around. Therefore, I say something which I
Speaker 8: don't even think is that bad people got to just
Speaker 8: take a breath and step back a little bit. And
Speaker 8: what's going on.
Speaker 1: This is what we get when we allow people in
Speaker 1: the society to dictate societal norms. When they're criticizing or
Speaker 1: canceling people for using the wrong pronouns with somebody. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is the world in which we live, and I
Speaker 1: think if I were Tom Brady, I would said, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, screw you? I would I don't know
Speaker 1: if i'd say that, but I would say, you know what.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean it in any kind of slur type meaning,
Speaker 1: I didn't think that I was de writing or or
Speaker 1: you know, saying bad things about disabled people, because it
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with disabled people. He said that
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's Josh Allen has exhibited spastic behavior like a
Speaker 1: spaz in the past, a kid on a sugar high,
Speaker 1: as he went on to describe on the air, and
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, maybe Josh Allen
Speaker 1: might have an issue with it, but nobody listening to
Speaker 1: that should have had an issue.
Speaker 8: People who complain about this have no idea what the
Speaker 8: word means. It should if the spastic, which really means clumsy, stupid,
Speaker 8: or perhaps losing physical or emotional control. And basically that's
Speaker 8: what the quarterback probably did at that time. You know,
Speaker 8: in some circles it's used to describe medical conditions. It
Speaker 8: really is, so back off, leave them alone. I'm not
Speaker 8: hit the defense on Brady, but I'm defending what he
Speaker 8: had said because I don't think it's that big. I
Speaker 8: think these people with the word police got to get
Speaker 8: a life. They really get a life. The people that
Speaker 8: let lipers. That's the problem with this country right now.
Speaker 8: Everybody's on everybody's rear end. How do you like that
Speaker 8: they're on their rear end? I was gonna say the
Speaker 8: word as says, but I'm afraid the word police are
Speaker 8: gonna my Assai.
Speaker 2: Andy, you're you're a white man of a certain age.
Speaker 2: You don't have an ass.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: You can't spell.
Speaker 1: You can't spell Furman without a few folks, it's Andy
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Speaker 2: Thank you again, my friend?
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Speaker 1: to wrap things up tonight. It was such a great
Speaker 1: chance to talk about Peter Bronson's new book. I thought
Speaker 1: we would re air yesterday morning's interview from the Scott
Speaker 1: Sloan Show, Part one with Peter Bronson about his new book,
Speaker 1: So here you go. We start with one of my
Speaker 1: favorite guests all time. He was He was an editor
Speaker 1: and a columnist for the Cincinnati Inquirer for years, the
Speaker 1: Tucson Citizen before that, and then he formed Chili Dog Press,
Speaker 1: and through that outlet he has written and published great
Speaker 1: books about local history, including not in Our Town, as
Speaker 1: I like to say, from organized Crime and Forbidden Fruit
Speaker 1: to organized Crime. Yeah, yeah, that's a good way to
Speaker 1: put it. In Not in Our Town, the Man who
Speaker 1: Saved Cincinnati, about the Civil War. It's our conversation with
Speaker 1: Peter Bronson. How you doing.
Speaker 16: I'm here and I'm glad to be here with you,
Speaker 16: Gary Jeff. We always have a good time.
Speaker 1: New book is Promised Land, How the Midwest was One,
Speaker 1: and it's talking about everything right here in the Cincinnati area.
Speaker 1: In its very origins, the beginnings of the founding of
Speaker 1: you know, towns and absolutely settlements.
Speaker 16: Very first people who moved to Cincinnati when this was
Speaker 16: a danger zone unlike any other called the Miami Slaughterhouse
Speaker 16: because of the attacks by the Shawnee and Miamia Indian
Speaker 16: tribes were so vicious and so brutal. These people risked
Speaker 16: everything to come and settle Cincinnati, and their lives were unbelievable.
Speaker 1: They were some fantastic people. So you're telling me that
Speaker 1: the indigenous peoples who inhabited this particular piece of the
Speaker 1: continent at the time were not necessarily peaceful, fellow human being,
Speaker 1: loving kind of folks. That you know that the Indian
Speaker 1: may have had a tear in his eye, but that's
Speaker 1: maybe just blood spattered from the person that he just
Speaker 1: took care of. These wonderful, conserving and thoughtful human beings
Speaker 1: who were run over by the white settler.
Speaker 16: Those people, they were very brutal, not only to the settlers,
Speaker 16: but they had been brutal to each other for centuries
Speaker 16: before that. Yes, and you have to also throw in
Speaker 16: the wild card here, which is that the British were
Speaker 16: in citing a lot of this violence because they had
Speaker 16: lost the Revolutionary War and they were not happy about that.
Speaker 16: So at their ford in Detroit, they paid the Indians
Speaker 16: one hundred dollars for live hostages and fifty dollars for
Speaker 16: each scalp. So they were just a lot like terrorism today.
Speaker 16: They were incentivizing these terrorists, these Indians, to go ahead
Speaker 16: and take scalps as many as they could get and hostages,
Speaker 16: especially women and children. So it's the same thing as
Speaker 16: say George Soros using uninformed college students as a foil. Yeah,
Speaker 16: or the way that suicide bombers in the Middle East
Speaker 16: are paid by Hamas and these other terrorist organizations ISAs
Speaker 16: same thing. Only this goes all the way back to
Speaker 16: the seventeen eighties and seventeen nineties. And I was really
Speaker 16: fascinated by the research because I always knew about the scalping.
Speaker 16: I always knew that it was dangerous, I had no
Speaker 16: idea how dangerous, how many people were taken, tortured, killed,
Speaker 16: and the degree of violence, the barbarity of it is
Speaker 16: really breathtaking. Now, there were there was violence on both sides.
Speaker 16: A lot of the whites also scalped because but.
Speaker 1: There were also very fine people on both sides, right, people,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 16: I don't know if I'd go that far. There were,
Speaker 16: no doubt, some good people on both sides. But what
Speaker 16: the thing is, the white people did scalp Indians, but
Speaker 16: they did not win in Rome. Yes, they did not
Speaker 16: take captives and torture them for days at a time.
Speaker 16: That's what really separated this is that the ritual torture
Speaker 16: of their captives became a big entertainment for the tribes,
Speaker 16: where the whole tribe would turn out and enjoy this
Speaker 16: and participate.
Speaker 9: That kind of thing is really shocking.
Speaker 1: You'll see the occasional historical marker in northern Kentucky and
Speaker 1: around Greater Cincinnati. I think the one in Newport says
Speaker 1: founded in it's seventeen eighty eight ers.
Speaker 16: Yes, yeah, Northern Kentucky was settled first, right, And that's
Speaker 16: because the Ohio River marked the boundary at which the
Speaker 16: Shawnee and Miami said you shall not enter or enter
Speaker 16: at your own risk because that was their territory. Kentucky
Speaker 16: was considered a neutral kind of honting ground that was
Speaker 16: shared by all the tribes. So although they they called
Speaker 16: him depredations, which were the attacks they had as many
Speaker 16: depredations in some ways more in northern Kentucky and as
Speaker 16: far south as Lexington when Boone and Simon Kenton settled
Speaker 16: Kentucky and blazed that path. But it was the Revolutionary
Speaker 16: War veterans who came to Ohio and they were first
Speaker 16: to step on the northern bank and set up what
Speaker 16: they called station which were forts like Fort Washington. And
Speaker 16: they were the first ones to do that, and boy
Speaker 16: did they pay a price. We know that Cincinnati was.
Speaker 1: A spot during our Civil War, yes, where slaves could
Speaker 1: come across from slave territory to free territory, the Front
Speaker 1: Dard to Freedom Front, Order Freedom, And you've written about
Speaker 1: that extensively in the past. But in this book and
Speaker 1: Promised Land How the Midwest was Won by Peter Bronson,
Speaker 1: you talk about a national conspiracy to create a slave
Speaker 1: empire was born in Cincinnati. This is a fantastic chapter.
Speaker 16: It was a guy named George Washington Bickley, and he
Speaker 16: founded an organization called the Knights of the Golden Circle.
Speaker 16: Now I only touched on that in The Man who
Speaker 16: Saved Cincinnati and mentioned it, but I was fascinated by it,
Speaker 16: so I dug deeper. And this was a tremendously large organization.
Speaker 16: They had chapters in Illinois, Indiana, New York City, New York,
Speaker 16: State of New York, California, Texas, all throughout the South,
Speaker 16: and their chapters could have as many as ten thousand
Speaker 16: people in these states.
Speaker 1: Ohio had a huge chapter.
Speaker 16: Cincinnati was well represented in the Knights of the Golden Circle.
Speaker 16: And it was a secret society whose goal it was
Speaker 16: to create a slave empire that would encompass all the
Speaker 16: southern states of the Confederacy and then extend into Central
Speaker 16: and South America and Cuba.
Speaker 12: Wow.
Speaker 16: And this slave empire was meant to be as prosperous
Speaker 16: and powerful as North America, so that they would set
Speaker 16: up a country, a region that would rival the North
Speaker 16: and have as much political power and military power so
Speaker 16: they could protect their slave empire. And it was it
Speaker 16: was quite a conspiracy. They also plotted to kill Abraham Lincoln. Well,
Speaker 16: I mean that's probably not surprising, you know. In the
Speaker 16: same respect, while it is almost unconstonable to think of
Speaker 16: the two attempts be they failed on President Trump during
Speaker 16: this campaign, that very much mirrors, I think the sentiments
Speaker 16: of a divided nation that we were facing in eighteen
Speaker 16: sixty with the election of Abraham Lincoln, and it gives
Speaker 16: me worry and gives me pause to think about what
Speaker 16: the other side is going to do should Donald Trump
Speaker 16: win the election next week. I don't worry about whether
Speaker 16: Donald Trump accepts the results of the election. I'm more
Speaker 16: concerned with whether the left accepts the results of an
Speaker 16: election if they don't win, because they are seemingly a
Speaker 16: win at all cost. Crew and I agree, there's a
Speaker 16: lot of concern and a lot of people have brought
Speaker 16: up this comparison of the Civil War Antebellum Antebellum era
Speaker 16: which was proceeding leading up to the Civil War, and
Speaker 16: how divided we were. I'm telling you, Gary, Jeff, there
Speaker 16: were so many parallels when I researched these books. In
Speaker 16: eighteen sixty, Lincoln was so unpopular that in Kentucky, where
Speaker 16: he was born, he only received one percent of the vote.
Speaker 16: He was stricken from the ballot in eleven states. Remember
Speaker 16: they tried to do that with Trump exactly. People began
Speaker 16: threatening him even before he took office. In fact, there
Speaker 16: was a threat, an attempt to assassinate him in Cincinnati
Speaker 16: in eighteen sixty when he was on his way to
Speaker 16: his inauguration, and this is very similar to what we're
Speaker 16: seeing today. This was a nation so divided. We had
Speaker 16: violence breaking out all across the country. We had bloodshed,
Speaker 16: we had brother against brother, family against family.
Speaker 9: And this was all leading up to the Civil War.
Speaker 1: We had.
Speaker 16: A government that suspended basic civil rights, that suppressed the
Speaker 16: right of free speech.
Speaker 9: Free speech was extremely dangerous.
Speaker 16: If you went on Fountain Square in Cincinnati and gave
Speaker 16: a speech about abolition, you could be stoned. If you
Speaker 16: gave a speech about secession, you could be shot. These
Speaker 16: are the things that happened in those days that we
Speaker 16: can say, hmm, that sounds very familiar.
Speaker 1: It also sounds like areas that we do not need
Speaker 1: to venture back into as a country, but have sadly
Speaker 1: just in the era of Donald Trump. And I don't
Speaker 1: blame the president for that. I blame the just, the
Speaker 1: violent and unforgiving left for that. Oh, directly rhetoric and
Speaker 1: the Trump derangement syndrome that does not have a valid
Speaker 1: leg to stand on. No matter what people on the
Speaker 1: left have said, well, of course I have trumped arrangement syndrome.
Speaker 1: Any sane person would. Yes, I saw that, thank you.
Speaker 16: That is like a confession like, yes, I'm a Trump
Speaker 16: Trump Arrangement syndrome person.
Speaker 1: My name is I can't help myself, Like it's like
Speaker 1: an AA meeting. Yes for polydios. My wife calls him politiots.
Speaker 1: So back to the Promised Land. How the Midwest was
Speaker 1: one Peter Brons and our guest, the mysterious mound builders
Speaker 1: you're talking about, and this is going back even beyond
Speaker 1: the Miami and the Shawnee.
Speaker 16: Absolutely, these would be the ancestors of the Indian tribes
Speaker 16: that we're familiar with. And the mound builders culture was
Speaker 16: existing as far as thirteen thousand years ago.
Speaker 9: But the mounds we can trace to about three thousand
Speaker 9: years ago.
Speaker 1: Okay, and it's a.
Speaker 16: Amazing but we don't even most of us don't know
Speaker 16: this history right in our backyard, but in all of
Speaker 16: our communities Indian Hill, Terrace Park, Marymont, Milford, right down
Speaker 16: to downtown Cincinnati. These mounds existed when these settlers arrived.
Speaker 1: They were huge.
Speaker 16: Many of them were amazingly designed to almost unbelievable exact specifications.
Speaker 16: They'd have perfect circles that were half a mile across.
Speaker 16: They had these incredible mounds and earthworks that they didn't
Speaker 16: have modern engineering tools, They didn't have any of the
Speaker 16: equipment were accustomed to, and yet they built these incredibles
Speaker 16: like the Serpent Mound. Yeah exactly, And so I got
Speaker 16: into researching who were these people and what were they
Speaker 16: all about. Well, what we can figure out is that
Speaker 16: they worshiped serpents. We can tell that they engaged in
Speaker 16: human sacrifice. We found that out from the excavations.
Speaker 2: Nice people.
Speaker 16: Yeah, many of the sacrifices were young women and children,
Speaker 16: and mass graves they may have they probably it's almost
Speaker 16: certain that they engaged in cannibalism of eating their victims
Speaker 16: and their prisoners and their enemies. And we can tell
Speaker 16: this from the way that you'll find bones near fires,
Speaker 16: evidence of fires, and the bones show evidence of being
Speaker 16: scraped and used as a meal.
Speaker 1: You know, cannibals know how good people really are. So
Speaker 1: these are the ancestors of these vicious tribes. And some
Speaker 1: of that stuff hangs over you can see it. The torture,
Speaker 1: the entertainment of torturing victims who are their enemies. So
Speaker 1: that kind of brutality still existed.
Speaker 9: Well, I mean, you.
Speaker 1: Didn't have Netflix. You needed something dinner to right everybody
Speaker 1: let's get together. We got a new prisoner, who's got
Speaker 1: any ideas.
Speaker 2: Come on by the hut. Yeah, we're gonna do some
Speaker 2: torture to night. It'll be a blast, oh man.
Speaker 1: Also in The Promised Land, you write about Cincinnati's twin
Speaker 1: sisters who saved Texas? Yes, how did twin sisters from
Speaker 1: Cincinnati saved Texas?
Speaker 16: Another another amazing forgotten chapter in Cincinnati history. So in
Speaker 16: eighteen thirty six, Texas was fighting for its life against
Speaker 16: Santa Ana and the Mexican army. We all know the
Speaker 16: story of the Alamo, Yep, we may not know the
Speaker 16: story of Goliad, which was as bad or worse, where
Speaker 16: hundreds of Texians they call them Texians because they were
Speaker 16: Mexicans Mexico. Mexico owned Texas territory at that time and
Speaker 16: it was a province of Mexico, so they were Texians
Speaker 16: meaning Mexicans Texans and hundreds of those guys who fought
Speaker 16: Mexico were taken prisoner at Goliad and marched out under
Speaker 16: the pretense of gathering wood and executed.
Speaker 1: This was when people say remember the Alamo.
Speaker 16: Back in those days, they would say remember the Alamo,
Speaker 16: or they would say remember Goliad, So Texas was struggling.
Speaker 16: They were being defeated by Santa Anna. He had thousands
Speaker 16: against their hundreds, and he was marching through Texas taking
Speaker 16: no prisoners.
Speaker 1: He was a brutal, brutal guy.
Speaker 16: So at this time Texas sent their ambassador an amazing name.
Speaker 9: He can't make this up. His name was Picky Yun Smith.
Speaker 2: Picky Un Smith.
Speaker 1: Yes, I remember Picky Un Smith back in the fall
Speaker 1: of fifty four, and we were all gathered around the fire.
Speaker 1: Picky Un Smith. What a great name.
Speaker 16: So he comes up and he sent to Cincinnati, which
Speaker 16: was then a huge city. It was the westernmost city
Speaker 16: in the US that was as powerful as it was.
Speaker 16: And he sent to Cincinnati, and he comes and he
Speaker 16: tells these leading families of Cincinnati who are all descended
Speaker 16: from these same settlers who had fought for their liberty
Speaker 16: and independence in Ohio to free Ohio from oppression of
Speaker 16: the British.
Speaker 9: And the Indians. And he comes and tells him what's
Speaker 9: going on in Texas well.
Speaker 16: Contrary to the National Neutrality Act, even our local congressmen
Speaker 16: participated in a conspiracy that was illegal that they could
Speaker 16: have lost everything and been sent to prison. They participated
Speaker 16: in a conspiracy to raise arms for Texas, which was
Speaker 16: in effect was buying cannons that they named the Twin Sisters.
Speaker 16: Texas had no cannons, and they bought these two cannons.
Speaker 16: They forged him right here in Cincinnati. They put them
Speaker 16: on a boat and took them all the way down
Speaker 16: to New Orleans and then shipped them over to Texas.
Speaker 16: And the cannons save Texas at the Battle of Sanya
Speaker 16: Sinto at Sanya Sinto. Without those cannons, Texas independence would
Speaker 16: not even have existed. And it's very possible that a
Speaker 16: lot of Texas as we know it today would probably
Speaker 16: be part.
Speaker 1: Of Mexico still be part of Mexico if not for Cincinnati.
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