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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's.

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<v Speaker 2>On sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 3>Now here's Nick coffee, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm looking here at sportsline dot com, a good resource,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, pre plug for them. And when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to they've got their own formula that gives you

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<v Speaker 2>a projected score after I think like a thousand simulations

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<v Speaker 2>between teams when it comes to a matchup, and they

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<v Speaker 2>have the projected score for the Louisville Kentucky Governor's Cup

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<v Speaker 2>game at twenty five twenty three Louisville, which means, of

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<v Speaker 2>course the Cards would win but not cover because they

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<v Speaker 2>are currently favored by three and a half. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at you look at you know in it's early,

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<v Speaker 2>but right now, the percentage of wagers on this game,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as the spread, seventy three percent of those

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<v Speaker 2>wagering on spread here are taking Louisville to cover and

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<v Speaker 2>money line and I'm sorry not money line, but the money,

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<v Speaker 2>the money that has come through. It's the other way around.

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<v Speaker 2>Those that are betting on Kentucky. There's not as many

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<v Speaker 2>of them, but they're putting up a lot more money.

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<v Speaker 2>And that doesn't surprise me because I would imagine that

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a Kentucky fan, you probably, no matter what

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<v Speaker 2>would have happened this year, wanted to bet on Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>to win because you know you're a Kentucky fan. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad I've never really been that way, because, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's a little because it's clearly an

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<v Speaker 2>emotional bet. But if you're doing it, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a known thing, like Hey, I'm gonna put

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<v Speaker 2>twenty bucks or whatever down on my team because if

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<v Speaker 2>they win, I'm gonna be happy in general, but also, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get paid to watch my team win because

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<v Speaker 2>we prove the books were wrong about us. But I've

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<v Speaker 2>just tried to stay away from wagering on teams that

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<v Speaker 2>I have any feeling towards, whether it be I love

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<v Speaker 2>them or hate them, because clearly there's no way to,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, remove emotion totally from that decision. But if

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<v Speaker 2>it's just for fun, you know, and you know going

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<v Speaker 2>in you're doing it because you're a fan or you're

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<v Speaker 2>a hater, then you know, I get it. But yes,

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<v Speaker 2>there's more money coming in on Kentucky to cover this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as just the amount wagered but the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of bets themselves still still I say still, it's first

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<v Speaker 2>TI I've looked at it, but seventy three percent have Louisville.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, it is hour number two here Coffee and Company,

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<v Speaker 2>philby Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. Appreciate you hanging

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<v Speaker 2>out with us, Nick Coffee. That's me the company man,

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<v Speaker 2>mister John Alden alongside. Today we'll get back into the

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<v Speaker 2>Governor's Cup stuff coming up here shortly. If you are

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<v Speaker 2>just now joining us and you have been working all day,

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<v Speaker 2>been busy, who knows whatever you're doing. You may not

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<v Speaker 2>have heard the news from Mark Stoops's press conference. They

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<v Speaker 2>are going to start meaning Kentucky. A true freshman at quarterback,

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<v Speaker 2>Cutter Bowley will start for Kentucky, making his first career

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<v Speaker 2>start in the Governor's Cup game. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>brilliant move by Stoops because from when I saw Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>the kid looks like he's got a pretty good arm. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a big time recruit coming out of high school.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what you have with Brock vandergriff and

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<v Speaker 2>that's a guy who has not been able to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to help you win at any I mean, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>he made a big play hit Bury and Brown there

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<v Speaker 2>unfourd down against Ole Miss, and that was huge for them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really how they won that game, which it's crazy

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<v Speaker 2>to think about where their season would be had they

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<v Speaker 2>not won that game. But they did win the game,

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<v Speaker 2>and he made a big play with his arm. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think Vandergrift's bad. He's not. He's just not that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just not certainly not elite. And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you end up see him because he's gonna transfer

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<v Speaker 2>elsewhere now right Like he hasn't announced that, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>him getting benched in the finale and it being a

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<v Speaker 2>true freshman. I mean, I would imagine he's going to transfer.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know why you'd stick around. And

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he ends up elsewhere and has success. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>another reason people can point and look at Stoops and say, look, man,

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<v Speaker 2>you're holding our offense back. Look at what Liam Cohen's

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<v Speaker 2>doing in the NFL. I mean, I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>if that would be true or not, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a brilliant move by Stoops because I think it

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<v Speaker 2>does give you the best chance to potentially view this

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<v Speaker 2>as a new season, you can say all along, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing else, everything that happened before doesn't matter. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a new season, one game season, and I'm sure I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, I know coaches do that every week, right.

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<v Speaker 2>The most important game in the history of our program

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<v Speaker 2>is the next game. Like Pat Kelsey says that a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can say all that, and it's still really

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<v Speaker 2>difficult to you know, believe it and really go out

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<v Speaker 2>on the field and have the mindset as if you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't already lost, you know, a bunch of games this year.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think if you've got a new guy leading

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<v Speaker 2>the offense on that side of the ball, it may

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<v Speaker 2>be a little easier for these guys to have a

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<v Speaker 2>fresh start because they'll know, hey, yeah, we know we

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<v Speaker 2>got ability, and I know they've got ability. That's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that worries me about Kentucky. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they have good players. Man. It actually makes March Toops

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<v Speaker 2>look really bad that his team was as bad as

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<v Speaker 2>they are this year because you know, again I talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it earlier in the press conference or earlier this

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<v Speaker 2>this in the show. At his press conference today, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this is a guy who's been complaining about

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<v Speaker 2>the new world of college sports for quite some time,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, it's been pretty clear that his fans

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<v Speaker 2>have picked up on it, and they're just thinking, like, look, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't have like it's fine, we love you.

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<v Speaker 2>You did a great job here. But if you are

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<v Speaker 2>not embracing this change and trying like hell to get

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<v Speaker 2>act climate it and succeed in this new world, then like,

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<v Speaker 2>have a nice life. Like we can't change it. It

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<v Speaker 2>is what it is. Boohoo went about, it isn't gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make it productive for anybody. So he went from being

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<v Speaker 2>that guy to today saying that they've never been in

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<v Speaker 2>a better spot when it comes to resources to go

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<v Speaker 2>fix the roster in the portal. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that's like a crazy thing to say. In fact, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's probably what fans want him to say. But also,

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<v Speaker 2>your roster didn't need to be fixed for you to

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<v Speaker 2>avoid one and seven in league play, four and seven

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<v Speaker 2>overall right now. And that's why I think this season's

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<v Speaker 2>a real outlier for Kentucky and I hope that that

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<v Speaker 2>continues to be the case. And one thing that Stoops

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<v Speaker 2>is all because when Stoops's teams were ever this bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It was because they had Joker Phillips players. They have

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<v Speaker 2>good players now, and they're terrible as far as how

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<v Speaker 2>you're valued winning and losing, and Stoops for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>has always had his guys ready to play against Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>even when games they've lost. The only year they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>was in twenty seventeen, the last time Louisville won, Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>came on glued. They had players throwing trash cans. They

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<v Speaker 2>were getting embarrassed by Lamar Jackson, and they were like

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<v Speaker 2>taunting him as if they were the ones up three scores.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really embarrassing. And I get Mad Jones a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of credit because I remember him on his postgame show.

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<v Speaker 2>We went on around the same time at that point,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember going in the hallway to go to

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<v Speaker 2>was in the seven ninety studio, and he said something

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<v Speaker 2>that I thought was really true, that, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people claim he's a homer, which he is.

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<v Speaker 2>I am too, Like, you know, he's a Kentucky fan,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a Louisville fan. Like nobody's ever made that a secret.

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<v Speaker 2>But he said that a lot of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>people said about Bobby Patrino's players whenever he went to

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville and he came back to Louisville, like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that Kentucky fans would make fun of

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville players and just say that their stereotypical, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>criminals and bad guys, and they behave like, you know, fools,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's exactly what their team did that day, and

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<v Speaker 2>they looked like it. And it was the guy's named

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Jones who like wanted to like he would not

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<v Speaker 2>stop trying to fight Lamar Jackson on the football field

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<v Speaker 2>despite getting embarrassed by Lamar like every play. So anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>that was the one year where I feel like they

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<v Speaker 2>kind of weren't ready to play in that game. But

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<v Speaker 2>every other year they've been one just better because Crackthorpe

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<v Speaker 2>was here, or the last year of Bobby, or they've

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, come like last year, you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't play great, but they made enough plays and Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>gave him opportunities and you were able to we all

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<v Speaker 2>saw what happened. So when I say that, I hope

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<v Speaker 2>that this is this this outlier year continues for Stoops

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<v Speaker 2>because if they come out flat and aren't ready and

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<v Speaker 2>they get boat raced, that would be that would be

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<v Speaker 2>another sign that, man, this is just this is like

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<v Speaker 2>Stoops has had years where they're not great, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not really sure how good they ever were in certain seasons,

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<v Speaker 2>but man, this is just really bad. Like and this

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<v Speaker 2>is another thing I'll say before we get to basketball again,

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<v Speaker 2>this is that's what this game is.

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<v Speaker 4>Like.

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<v Speaker 2>I say, we're gonna get to it, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>start talking and can't stop. But there are Kentucky fans

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<v Speaker 2>right now that if you just go and look at

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<v Speaker 2>the toxic wasteland that is Twitter, like, there's all kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of Kentucky fans talking about how Stoops needs to go,

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<v Speaker 2>he needs to move on. John summerl should be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Stoops is a bums Like there's a lot of fans

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<v Speaker 2>that are already out on Stoops. I'm sure they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to eventually buy in once again if he starts landing

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<v Speaker 2>players in the portal, because that's what fans do. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even mean that as a criticism, like what

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<v Speaker 2>are you gonna do not be a fan because they

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<v Speaker 2>kept a coach that you wanted to move on, so

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<v Speaker 2>they're already out on him as of now. It'll likely change,

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<v Speaker 2>but here's one thing I do know. If he wins

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<v Speaker 2>this game, it will prove what we already know, that

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<v Speaker 2>this game is that important to both sides, and they

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<v Speaker 2>will not be wanting him gone like they did for

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<v Speaker 2>the last I don't know month or so really since

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<v Speaker 2>their season fell off the rails. If he loses, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you will hear a level because look in years

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<v Speaker 2>where they haven't been good or they were decent, or

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<v Speaker 2>even years that you know they were, they were pretty good,

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<v Speaker 2>like they really love to beat Louisville like it's in.

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<v Speaker 2>Even in years where they don't feel like they accomplished much.

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<v Speaker 2>If they have that, they feel better about themselves, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't blame them. That's what this rivalry game is.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think if they were to lose this game,

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<v Speaker 2>even though they're already bad, because it's something they've been

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<v Speaker 2>accustomed to for a long time. Again, twenty seventeen's last

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<v Speaker 2>time Olevlle won this game. If they lose to Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it's like a close game and they lose,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you will hear a level of volume you

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<v Speaker 2>did not know existed or you did not know possible

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<v Speaker 2>as far as Kentucky fans that want that man out

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<v Speaker 2>of town, and they may not know it because they're thinking, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we already suck. I've watched us play all year. We

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<v Speaker 2>lost to Vandy at home. We can lose to and

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<v Speaker 2>we can lose to Louisville. You're saying that now, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think some of them you don't really know what

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to do to you till it happens. Because

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<v Speaker 2>even in years you didn't feel like you were great,

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<v Speaker 2>you could always punk Louisville. And that's why I've hated

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<v Speaker 2>that Louisville's been in this situation because I've never felt

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<v Speaker 2>like Kentucky during the Stoops era was ever as good

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<v Speaker 2>as they thought they were or as good as they

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<v Speaker 2>acted like. And it really doesn't have any to do

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<v Speaker 2>with with Louisville. But you know, I know how this works,

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<v Speaker 2>Like who am I to say that Kentucky's underwhelming or

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky stinks? And you know their bums whenever they've beatn

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville for the last time or many times they played

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<v Speaker 2>them like it, you know it falls flat. So we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see what happens on Saturday, all right, Louisville basketball, Pat Kelsey,

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<v Speaker 2>they will. In fact, they arrived earlier today. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they landed earlier this afternoon in the Bahamas. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Pat's gonna have a press conference tomorrow to get set

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<v Speaker 2>for the matchup against Indiana. We'll certainly let you guys

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<v Speaker 2>here's some of that. I think it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have some sound to share with you guys on

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<v Speaker 2>the show tomorrow. But right now, no spread yet, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, too early. But Ken Palm Louisville and

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<v Speaker 2>Indiana projected score. Have you seen this, John, I have it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it might surprise you because it does surprise me.

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<v Speaker 2>But then again, it's early.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet the deficit. I bet it's like a four

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<v Speaker 1>point win for Indiana.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty damn close. Three point okay. Seventy seven. Seventy four

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<v Speaker 2>is the projected score in Kent for Ken Palm. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we'll get into Indiana coming up here, because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm certainly gonna lean on you to to talk a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about this Indiana basketball team. What we've got

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<v Speaker 2>you today, John won't be with us tomorrow or Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll certainly get his thoughts because he can tell

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<v Speaker 2>us more about the Hoosiers than anybody else, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>the best at covering the Hoosiers. So we're gonna we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna utilize him. We're gonna use him while we can.

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<v Speaker 2>Just you know, he's getting used all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>He's doing his own show, he's doing has he's with

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<v Speaker 2>us now, So we're just you know, we're just working

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<v Speaker 2>him to death around here, and we're going to take

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<v Speaker 2>advantage of him because that's what they do in this business.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll learn that if you haven't already, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>you have. Actually I said it, not him. I said

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<v Speaker 2>it not him. But anyways, you know the Winthrop game,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really have a whole lot to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really hope a whole lot to to. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's I have thoughts, but I don't you know, those

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<v Speaker 2>two games against Winthrop and against who was it Bellerman,

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<v Speaker 2>those were games that weren't really gonna tell you anything,

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<v Speaker 2>and all you can do is players on your schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hope, I was hopeful that we would see

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<v Speaker 2>some things in both of those game. That's encouraging for

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<v Speaker 2>when you get to the bigger tests, like games against

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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee and everybody else that's in the field in the

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<v Speaker 2>Battle for Atlantis, and I do think we saw some

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<v Speaker 2>of those things, but like I'm trying not to go

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<v Speaker 2>one way or the other in a far direction, meaning

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<v Speaker 2>anything that was really encouraging, like looks it's Winthrop, it's Bellerman.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything that was you know, a big concern, you still

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<v Speaker 2>won without much trouble. And I just think when you

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<v Speaker 2>play teams like Bellerman, especially Bellerman this year, and even

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<v Speaker 2>Winthrop at times, like when you see Bellerman go to

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<v Speaker 2>the rack on you and just take one of your

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<v Speaker 2>dudes off the bounce to the bucket, it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's never good. But when it's Bellerman doing and you're thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>oh god, what's what's Indiana gonna do? Whenever you see

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<v Speaker 2>Winthrop with what was it? Let's see, I mean, because

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<v Speaker 2>the rebounding the rebounding issue is a real issue. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville gave up most of these by the way we're

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<v Speaker 2>in the first half, but still to give up nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>offensive rebounds to Winthrop and you only had ten. Like again,

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<v Speaker 2>when you see that, that's never good no matter who

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<v Speaker 2>you're playing. But you're probably gonna worry, Oh man, if

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<v Speaker 2>Winthrop's doing that, yikes, what's Indiana going to do on

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<v Speaker 2>the glass? What's West Virginia or Gonzaga gonna do on

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<v Speaker 2>the glass? So you know, those are still some concerns.

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<v Speaker 2>The concerns I've had about Louisville against teams of this caliber,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll find out over these next few days. Really, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>have they have they made big improvements to where they

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<v Speaker 2>can be much more competitive, because they clearly weren't against

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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee at least not very competitive, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>how good has Tennessee been? I mean, they fraddled Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>which again I still think that was impressive that they

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<v Speaker 2>did it. But who knows, maybe that won't be even

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<v Speaker 2>looked at as like a great win for them when

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<v Speaker 2>it's all said and done. But they beat Baylor by fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and they beat Virginia by twenty two, and you know, again,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe both those teams aren't great, but Tennessee has not.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody's played close with them, which you know, what else

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<v Speaker 2>could be looked at as kind of a scary thing

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<v Speaker 2>is that Indiana beat Tennessee in that exhibition game, did

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<v Speaker 2>they not? They did, yeah, And I feel like nobody

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<v Speaker 2>even felt like Indiana played good in that game. So

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Indiana's this scary team Indiana. And then again, this

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<v Speaker 2>is probably something I can wait to get to, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if I'll remember it when we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking Indiana because any has done this under Woodsin since

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<v Speaker 2>he's been there. They played at the level of their competition.

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<v Speaker 1>They do, and they've done that this year.

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<v Speaker 2>They've done Yeah, like they'll they'll They'll be in a

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<v Speaker 2>game with a bum team early on and all the

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<v Speaker 2>all the with the dockets call them all the bogga

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<v Speaker 2>bullys that cover the Hoosiers are talking about it's inexcusable,

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<v Speaker 2>what since Scotty's guys not ready to play again? And

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<v Speaker 2>then they win by fifty and everybody's saying, what a

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<v Speaker 2>great response by the Hoosiers. So, like, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>just what they do and that's not what you want

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<v Speaker 2>to do. But their early struggles at times against teams

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<v Speaker 2>that aren't good, have never really mean, they've never lost

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<v Speaker 2>a game like that, have they.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they've had a few, thankfully so far this year

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't had a scare like where they only beat

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<v Speaker 1>more Red State by two or barely beat Army, but

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<v Speaker 1>they they were down against Eastern Illinois at halftime in

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<v Speaker 1>their second game, and you haven't seen Greensboro had them

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<v Speaker 1>at forty a piece early on in their most recent game.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean they've had their fair share of struggles,

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<v Speaker 1>but they also dominated South Carolina. And I know South

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina is not a good SEC team by any stretch

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<v Speaker 1>of the imagination, but they have seemed to play, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, to the level of their competition so far.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, yeah, South Carolina, Lamont Parris had it

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<v Speaker 2>roll in last year was probably the probably one of

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<v Speaker 2>the candidates for Coach of the Year with their big improvement,

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<v Speaker 2>but this year they got beat by North Florida and

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<v Speaker 2>their opener and then Indiana had no mean, Indiana had

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<v Speaker 2>less trouble with them than they had against the teams

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, like South Eastern Illinois who they ended

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<v Speaker 2>up killing, but I think that game was actually kind

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<v Speaker 2>of close early too. So anyways, back back to the

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville side of it, with Winthrop, I will say this

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<v Speaker 2>and this this trust me. I'm not trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>you feel more confident about this Tennessee game and whoever

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<v Speaker 2>else you play in the Bahamas, because it's a big

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<v Speaker 2>step up from Winthrop, from Morehead, from Bellerman.

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<v Speaker 3>It just is.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think that it's worth the least mentioning

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<v Speaker 2>that the game Friday was weird for Pat Kelse. You know, Winthrop,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know we talked about it beforehand, but Winthrop

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<v Speaker 2>is a special place to him, and I think he

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<v Speaker 2>honestly felt I shouldn't say like weird, but he did

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<v Speaker 2>talk after the game. I got a chance to listen

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<v Speaker 2>to his postgame interview with Bob Albano, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't say anything that like confirms this, but I

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<v Speaker 2>could sense that that was a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>different day for him because of who they were playing.

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<v Speaker 2>He's obviously very very close with the Prosser family. Mark

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<v Speaker 2>Prosser is Skip Prosser's son. Who Skip Prosser's is Pat

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey's You know, I don't want to say idle, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he would say that he's his idle. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that for certain, but I bet he

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<v Speaker 2>would say, yeah, he was my idol. He was a

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<v Speaker 2>guy he learned a lot from. It's a guy who

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<v Speaker 2>really got him into the coaching business. That Skip Prosser

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<v Speaker 2>coaching tree. I mean that includes some big names like

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Mack who was here before. So if you don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>Skip Prosser passed away unexpectedly many years ago, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was obviously hard on everybody. And the Prosser family is

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<v Speaker 2>basically family to Pat Kelsey and his family, So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he was out there taking it easy on him.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean that at all, but I think the

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<v Speaker 2>routine in the day itself was probably a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>different for them, and I think he actually might have

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<v Speaker 2>said that word for word because of the opponent. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>again that probably wouldn't have anything with anything to do

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<v Speaker 2>with his team, but you know, maybe he wasn't his

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<v Speaker 2>normal self because of that game didn't matter. You still

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<v Speaker 2>won by fifteen and really used a late run in

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<v Speaker 2>the first half to kind of put it away to

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<v Speaker 2>where you never really felt like you were going to

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<v Speaker 2>lose it. So you know, that's really is an excuse

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<v Speaker 2>to get out rebounded by Winthrop on the offensive side

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<v Speaker 2>of the glass. In fact, you got out now you

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<v Speaker 2>ended uout rebounding them forty four to forty one. So look,

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<v Speaker 2>they made some adjustments in the second half to where

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't getting bullied on the backboard. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hopeful that they are competitive on the glass. Clearly,

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<v Speaker 2>rebounding is not going to be a strength of this team.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think, you know, physicality is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the strength of this team. But it's not because I

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<v Speaker 2>think that they don't try. It's not because I think

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<v Speaker 2>that they're soft. I just think it's the roster and

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<v Speaker 2>how it's built. And I mean that's also what worries

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<v Speaker 2>me most, if I'm being honest with you, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want your guys to ever be in a

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<v Speaker 2>situation where you just worry, like, hey, are they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to hang in there when they play

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<v Speaker 2>against teams that are just built differently within the roster

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<v Speaker 2>to where their guys are a lot bigger and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more physical and just you know, imposing presences. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have any guys like that, So, like, no matter

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<v Speaker 2>how that ends up being the case, it's still a bummer.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like knowing that it's not because of

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<v Speaker 2>lack of trying, you know, that's what you want, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's also a little more worrisome because man, I think

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<v Speaker 2>they are trying. I think they are, you know, competing,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just kind of getting you know, not bullied, but

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<v Speaker 2>at times they just like they just get pushed around

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. And that's you know, doesn't mean they're soft,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just and I guess technically it does mean they're

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<v Speaker 2>soft in the eyes of some. But I really don't

414
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<v Speaker 2>know how you fix that. And that's what I'm most

415
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<v Speaker 2>anxious to see these next few games in the Bahamas.

416
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<v Speaker 2>How can you counter that, because everybody you play is

417
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<v Speaker 2>gonna give you a chance to really show what your

418
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<v Speaker 2>counter is to you know, counter those teams they can

419
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<v Speaker 2>just simply push you around a little bit. And I

420
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<v Speaker 2>don't mean like, you know, beat you up, but like

421
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<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be teams you play throughout the year where

422
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<v Speaker 2>physicality is a big part of who they are, that's

423
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<v Speaker 2>their brands. Louisville doesn't have that, and you're gonna have

424
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<v Speaker 2>to find a way to work around it. And I

425
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<v Speaker 2>don't really know what that answer is, but hopefully Pat

426
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<v Speaker 2>Kelsea can figure it out. Speaking of Pat Kelsey, I

427
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<v Speaker 2>didn't think it was a big deal, but it was

428
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<v Speaker 2>the first time that he'd kind of gotten well I'll

429
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<v Speaker 2>just let you hear he had an exchange with somebody

430
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<v Speaker 2>in the press conference after the game on Friday that,

431
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<v Speaker 2>you know, was something we hadn't seen before from Pat Kelsey.

432
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<v Speaker 2>So I'll let you hear that. On the other side,

433
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<v Speaker 2>it's coffee and Company we are. I feel about Thornton's

434
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<v Speaker 2>right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Well done, John.

435
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<v Speaker 2>I've never been to the Bahamas. It's a place my

436
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<v Speaker 2>wife has always mentioned that she'd like to go at

437
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<v Speaker 2>some point. But and I could be wrong, but I

438
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<v Speaker 2>feel like you can get a and I'm sure there's

439
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of beach vacation Bahamas snobs out there that

440
00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:40.599
<v Speaker 2>will look at me like a peasant when I say this,

441
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<v Speaker 2>And maybe you're right. I don't know. But if I'm

442
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<v Speaker 2>going to the Bahamas to do like an all inclusive

443
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<v Speaker 2>resort kind of like what they've got here at the

444
00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Battle for Atlantis, I mean you get basketball too, which

445
00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:51.039
<v Speaker 2>that makes it great. Like when we used to go

446
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<v Speaker 2>on those trips a couple times a year, and we

447
00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:55.200
<v Speaker 2>still try to go every now and then, but it's

448
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<v Speaker 2>just a little, well one, it's a little more difficult

449
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<v Speaker 2>to do with kids, and also we don't really want

450
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<v Speaker 2>to go on that trip very long without our kids

451
00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:03.680
<v Speaker 2>because it's just you know, it's we miss our kids.

452
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<v Speaker 2>But like I could whenever we used to look into

453
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<v Speaker 2>that those kind of trips, like I could get I

454
00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:11.640
<v Speaker 2>could get play Adel Carbon Mexico or even can Kun

455
00:20:12.119 --> 00:20:15.240
<v Speaker 2>for like substantially cheaper, and it's again not the same thing,

456
00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:17.319
<v Speaker 2>but it kind of is like the experience, like you're

457
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<v Speaker 2>in a tropical beach and you have all inclusive and

458
00:20:20.279 --> 00:20:23.079
<v Speaker 2>like it's still beautiful. So I'm sure the Bahamas is awesome,

459
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<v Speaker 2>but like it's always kind of been a little bit

460
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<v Speaker 2>out of my price range. So maybe we won't end

461
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<v Speaker 2>up there, but I don't know. Maybe Louisvell's back in

462
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<v Speaker 2>this event at some point down the line, and I'm

463
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<v Speaker 2>in a position where I can make the trip because

464
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<v Speaker 2>it would be a lot of fun. Now, I think

465
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<v Speaker 2>it'd be weird with Thanksgiving, just because you know, it

466
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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't feel like Thanksgiving and I would miss my family.

467
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<v Speaker 2>But if I could ever make it work, I would

468
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<v Speaker 2>love to go to the Bahamas, really just for this

469
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<v Speaker 2>event specifically, because it's awesome.

470
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<v Speaker 1>Is this the second time Louisvill's played in the Battle

471
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<v Speaker 1>for Atlantis? Yes, this will be Indiana's first time.

472
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<v Speaker 2>I believe it's theirs. I mean, I know when they

473
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<v Speaker 2>played in it. No, this is the third time, because

474
00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:56.200
<v Speaker 2>they played in it in twenty thirteen when they won

475
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<v Speaker 2>the title. They lost to Duke that year Gorky Jang

476
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<v Speaker 2>got hurt and SPT had to start, and I remember

477
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<v Speaker 2>Gorky actually came back relatively quickly. I think he came

478
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<v Speaker 2>back for the Kentucky game actually, and then they played

479
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<v Speaker 2>in it in twenty seventeen. Rix last year and they

480
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<v Speaker 2>were up, which is funny. It got brought up by

481
00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:17.759
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people on I guess it was Thursday

482
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<v Speaker 2>night because Rick was playing. Well, I don't know what

483
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<v Speaker 2>event it. Well, it's the Saint John's Baylor.

484
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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's the Baja mar Yeah, Thomas Championship.

485
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<v Speaker 2>Couvill played in that when they were the Baja Bullies

486
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<v Speaker 2>back in the day, whenever Chris Max last season when

487
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<v Speaker 2>Mike Mike Begeese was the coach because of Max suspension.

488
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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it was the Baja Mart Classic on CBS

489
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<v Speaker 2>Sports Network. So Rick played, if you remember, on the

490
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<v Speaker 2>first night against Baylor and they were kicking their ass

491
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<v Speaker 2>in the first half, up big and then somehow lost

492
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<v Speaker 2>the game, like in a way that if you didn't

493
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<v Speaker 2>see it, you would think, okay, wait a second, they're

494
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<v Speaker 2>up five with the ball with nine seconds and lost,

495
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<v Speaker 2>And yes, that's what happened. So a tough, tough loss

496
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<v Speaker 2>for Patino on a buzzer beater from Jeremy Roach who

497
00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:01.720
<v Speaker 2>transferred to Baylor from Duke. But you know, I would

498
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<v Speaker 2>have never thought of it. But once somebody I saw

499
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<v Speaker 2>make the reference, you know, mention of it, I was like, oh, yeah,

500
00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:08.559
<v Speaker 2>that is crazy. The last time Rick was in the

501
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<v Speaker 2>Bahamas coaching before that was when they were in the

502
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<v Speaker 2>Bahamas for the for the Battle Fortlantis in twenty seventeen,

503
00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:17.599
<v Speaker 2>and the same thing happened. Louisville was a big on Baylor,

504
00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:19.240
<v Speaker 2>a Baylor team that I don't think was supposed to

505
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<v Speaker 2>be that good, and they end up being really good,

506
00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:23.039
<v Speaker 2>but he a big lead slipped away and they ended

507
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<v Speaker 2>up losing. So Rick Patino going up against Rick Barnes,

508
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<v Speaker 2>not Rick Barnes, but Scott Drew in the Bahamas has

509
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<v Speaker 2>not been a good recipe for a coach. Patino, which

510
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<v Speaker 2>you know, they had a good bounce back win against

511
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<v Speaker 2>I think it was a Virginia after they lost to Baylor.

512
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<v Speaker 2>But the lost to Baylor was a real gut punch,

513
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<v Speaker 2>And then I watched yesterday they played at eleven AM

514
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<v Speaker 2>against Georgia, which I thought was kind of cool. Those

515
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<v Speaker 2>two teams stuck around an extra day or two in

516
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<v Speaker 2>the Bahamas just to do a standalone game because I

517
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<v Speaker 2>guess George is playing in an event that's not the

518
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<v Speaker 2>Bahama or it's not the Battle Fortlantis. I don't know

519
00:22:57.000 --> 00:22:58.880
<v Speaker 2>how many tournaments they have going on down there, but

520
00:22:58.920 --> 00:23:01.640
<v Speaker 2>they were just both by and agreed to do a

521
00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:04.440
<v Speaker 2>standalone game, non conference, neutral site game at the resort.

522
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<v Speaker 2>So they played yesterday morning, and Georgia was just better

523
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<v Speaker 2>from start to finish. So I still think Rick's got

524
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<v Speaker 2>a really good team, and I think they'll end up

525
00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:13.799
<v Speaker 2>being honestly one of the better teams in the Big East.

526
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<v Speaker 2>Because the Big East, despite being a good league and

527
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<v Speaker 2>obviously having Yukon win the back, you know, back to

528
00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:23.240
<v Speaker 2>back national championships, outside of the top tier, I think

529
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<v Speaker 2>it's not great in the ACE in the Big East.

530
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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, I wish and I've just looked at the

531
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<v Speaker 2>pictures during the break there of of the UFL posted

532
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<v Speaker 2>on the Twitter account showing them arriving. And yes, certainly

533
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<v Speaker 2>some jealousy on my end because it looks beautiful and

534
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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to be in the Mahamas. But hey, you know,

535
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<v Speaker 2>maybe next time. All right, So I'm probably giving this

536
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<v Speaker 2>more life than than than it needs to have because

537
00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:48.359
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't really it's not a thing. But I know

538
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<v Speaker 2>at least it's been talked about, and for those who

539
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<v Speaker 2>don't have contexts didn't hear it themselves, I feel like

540
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<v Speaker 2>it's worth it's worth letting you guys here. So Pat

541
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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey was asked by Matt mcgavick, who covers the cards

542
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<v Speaker 2>for Sports Illustrated. Matt does a great job, and you know,

543
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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying this because I want I consider him

544
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<v Speaker 2>a friend, but he's he works his ass off covering

545
00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:08.519
<v Speaker 2>u of L and does a great job, and he's

546
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<v Speaker 2>the one who of course, there was no intent. He

547
00:24:10.839 --> 00:24:12.720
<v Speaker 2>did nothing wrong at all when he posted that team

548
00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:15.839
<v Speaker 2>picture at media day that wasn't the official team photo,

549
00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:19.119
<v Speaker 2>and you know, that created a life of its own,

550
00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:21.279
<v Speaker 2>and he got hounded by some of LOIVEL fans who

551
00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:22.920
<v Speaker 2>acted like he was doing something to try to make

552
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<v Speaker 2>him look bad, which was nonsense, but he does a

553
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<v Speaker 2>great job. And he asked a question to to Pat

554
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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey that I thought was just, you know, absolutely a

555
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<v Speaker 2>very fair and honestly a question that I was expecting

556
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<v Speaker 2>somebody to ask. And I don't really know that Matt

557
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<v Speaker 2>could have asked the question any better than he did.

558
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<v Speaker 2>And maybe it's not fair to say that Pat Kelsey,

559
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<v Speaker 2>you know, got mad about it, but not a shocker.

560
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<v Speaker 2>Once I heard it that it became a talking point

561
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<v Speaker 2>from fans online who realized, hey, we've never really seen

562
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<v Speaker 2>Pat kelcey kind of you know, I don't even know

563
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<v Speaker 2>if it would be accurate to say that he questioned

564
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<v Speaker 2>a question that was asked to him or he was

565
00:25:02.359 --> 00:25:04.240
<v Speaker 2>bothered by it, but it was just clearly a little

566
00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:07.880
<v Speaker 2>different back and forth that we've heard from from PK.

567
00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:09.720
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think it's an issue at all. I

568
00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:12.039
<v Speaker 2>don't think either people are at fault here. But of course,

569
00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:15.359
<v Speaker 2>again it became at least somewhat of a talking point online.

570
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<v Speaker 2>But here here's the exchange ball sample size.

571
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<v Speaker 4>But in that time, the toughness and physicality on both

572
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<v Speaker 4>ends of the floor, especially like around the rim, kind

573
00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:25.400
<v Speaker 4>of has some some ebb and flow to it not

574
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<v Speaker 4>super super consistent. What's something you guys have to do

575
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<v Speaker 4>moving forward in order to get a little bit more

576
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<v Speaker 4>consistent in that department.

577
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's your opinion. I think I think I'm

578
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<v Speaker 3>pretty freaking gratty at the rim. James had five blocks.

579
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<v Speaker 3>We're making hard plays on the ball, like we call

580
00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:47.119
<v Speaker 3>it beating stuff up at the rim. You know, we

581
00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:49.519
<v Speaker 3>take a bunch of charges tonight, can I ruse ring

582
00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Smith took two? You know, you might not think it's consistent.

583
00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:56.680
<v Speaker 3>I think our guys are playing your butts off defensively.

584
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<v Speaker 2>So John, I'm sure you heard that for the first time. Yes,

585
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<v Speaker 2>do you take anything from that, like, you know, from

586
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<v Speaker 2>an objective ear who doesn't care one way or the other.

587
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<v Speaker 2>Like it wasn't a contentious situation, but he basically asked

588
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<v Speaker 2>a question, and pat Kelsey responded by, Baby, you know,

589
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<v Speaker 2>I'm basically I'm not going to really answer that because

590
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<v Speaker 2>I totally disagree with the premise of your question that

591
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<v Speaker 2>we're not tough.

592
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't.

593
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<v Speaker 2>I don't think like nobody did anything wrong though.

594
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I could tell that Pat pat Kelsey was annoyed

595
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<v Speaker 1>with the question because I'm sure he wants everyone on

596
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<v Speaker 1>the outside looking in to see that his team is

597
00:26:31.640 --> 00:26:34.559
<v Speaker 1>giving maximum effort all the time. So I can see

598
00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:37.839
<v Speaker 1>where he would be upset. But it is interesting to

599
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<v Speaker 1>hear him be that way kind of for the same.

600
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and and here's here's the way I see it.

601
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<v Speaker 2>And this is just my opinion. And you know, I

602
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<v Speaker 2>have this opinion from what I know of him. I

603
00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:52.359
<v Speaker 2>don't think that he would tell you that you're wrong

604
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<v Speaker 2>to look at the rebounding numbers and say, Okay, that

605
00:26:56.079 --> 00:26:57.920
<v Speaker 2>needs to be better. He would he agrees with that, Like,

606
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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he would tell you that, like, no,

607
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<v Speaker 2>we want to give up more offensive rebounds than what

608
00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:05.160
<v Speaker 2>we get. That's our like no, course not. But I

609
00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:08.880
<v Speaker 2>just think his brand, the way he coaches, just everything

610
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:15.440
<v Speaker 2>about him is that he's going to have instincts that

611
00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:19.400
<v Speaker 2>are going to always show to defend his guys even

612
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:22.240
<v Speaker 2>if it doesn't seem necessary. Because again, Matt didn't ask

613
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:25.759
<v Speaker 2>a question or make a comment leading to his question

614
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:30.640
<v Speaker 2>that insulted or like disrespected his guys. In fact, he

615
00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:32.799
<v Speaker 2>probably could have been a little bit more direct about

616
00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:35.640
<v Speaker 2>just the numbers. In fact, I thought, I mean, I'm

617
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<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing mcgavick up here. But it's just the truth.

618
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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he could have asked that question any

619
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<v Speaker 2>better as far as not coming off like, hey, you

620
00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:45.519
<v Speaker 2>guys are soft and pat just instincts kicked in. He's

621
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<v Speaker 2>going to defend his guys because that's who he is

622
00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:50.960
<v Speaker 2>as a pert, Like that's just him. So he'll challenge

623
00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:53.519
<v Speaker 2>them internally, Like there's no doubt in my mind that

624
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:55.960
<v Speaker 2>he's not letting them know, you got a rebound, we

625
00:27:55.960 --> 00:27:58.279
<v Speaker 2>got to box out, we got to fight because we're

626
00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:00.920
<v Speaker 2>going to be playing teams that are you know, going

627
00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:03.599
<v Speaker 2>to really try to clean the glass against cause we've

628
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:05.200
<v Speaker 2>got to come ready to work. Now, does that mean

629
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:07.200
<v Speaker 2>that they come out there and they can neutralize the

630
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:09.440
<v Speaker 2>issue that they have as far as you know, just

631
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:12.240
<v Speaker 2>teams are going to have pound for pound more size

632
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:14.680
<v Speaker 2>than them in the post. That's just the reality of it.

633
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:17.440
<v Speaker 2>So you know, does he get results that make you

634
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:19.640
<v Speaker 2>feel better? Only time will tell, But I just think

635
00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:21.559
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be him. I don't think he's going

636
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:23.160
<v Speaker 2>to be defensive, and I don't really know if he

637
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:25.240
<v Speaker 2>was defensive there, but I just think instincts like he's

638
00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:27.319
<v Speaker 2>going to defend his guys because that's who he is.

639
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:30.079
<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't mean he's not like he's not in

640
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.079
<v Speaker 2>you know. The direct answer there makes you think is

641
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:35.359
<v Speaker 2>if he thinks there's no problem with winthro about rebounding

642
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:37.839
<v Speaker 2>them on the offensive glass. And I don't believe that's

643
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:39.279
<v Speaker 2>the case at all. I think he knows it's a problem.

644
00:28:39.319 --> 00:28:41.000
<v Speaker 2>They're going to work on it. But he's always going

645
00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:44.039
<v Speaker 2>to be positive. That's just his nature. And if he

646
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:46.400
<v Speaker 2>wasn't that, he wouldn't be genuine. And I think this

647
00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:48.680
<v Speaker 2>day and age, especially with the way college sports has

648
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:51.160
<v Speaker 2>changed so much, players are going to sniff out if

649
00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:53.039
<v Speaker 2>you're genuine or not, and it matters because they now

650
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:55.559
<v Speaker 2>can sense that and move on from you if they want.

651
00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:59.119
<v Speaker 2>You could be whatever. Whenever players had no control over anything,

652
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:01.920
<v Speaker 2>couldn't lead with that, sitting out, couldn't make any money.

653
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:04.079
<v Speaker 2>So I think in a way it's actually, you know,

654
00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:05.920
<v Speaker 2>the timing of this new world. Who knows what either

655
00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:08.200
<v Speaker 2>coach does long term, but I think Mark Pope and

656
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:12.599
<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey, both from a personality standpoint, are the kind

657
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:15.400
<v Speaker 2>of guys that would have a chance to really thrive

658
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:17.400
<v Speaker 2>in this new world, maybe more so than the ogs

659
00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:20.119
<v Speaker 2>that think they can just you know, be drill sergeants

660
00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:23.079
<v Speaker 2>and not expect guys to take advantage of the opportunity

661
00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:25.680
<v Speaker 2>to leave. Now, maybe some of these guys will down

662
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:27.759
<v Speaker 2>the line realize they shouldn't have ran when they were

663
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.720
<v Speaker 2>being challenged and being held accountable. But either way, they

664
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:31.720
<v Speaker 2>have the right to do it, and they're going to

665
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:34.480
<v Speaker 2>continue to do it if they can so. And look,

666
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:36.519
<v Speaker 2>he gets on them a lot during games. I mean

667
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.359
<v Speaker 2>it's not like he's I just think that hearing that,

668
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:44.000
<v Speaker 2>fans were already kind of worried about it about like, hey,

669
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:46.000
<v Speaker 2>we got we got a rebound, we got to bucks out,

670
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:48.039
<v Speaker 2>we got to make sure we can't give up offensive

671
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:50.599
<v Speaker 2>rebounds at this rate to teams like this, and then

672
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:53.000
<v Speaker 2>for him to kind of act like, a't your opinion?

673
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:54.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think we you know, I think we're

674
00:29:54.200 --> 00:29:57.559
<v Speaker 2>pretty physical. I think we work our tails off. You know,

675
00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:00.000
<v Speaker 2>it probably made some fans, and it did clearly because

676
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:02.960
<v Speaker 2>it became a thing online, which happens this day and age.

677
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:04.680
<v Speaker 2>But it made people think that he doesn't believe that

678
00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:06.480
<v Speaker 2>there's that that's something they got to get better at.

679
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:08.920
<v Speaker 2>And I just think, you know, I think that's I mean,

680
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I get why you have why you came to that conclusion,

681
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:13.279
<v Speaker 2>But I believe that he's well aware that they got

682
00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:15.119
<v Speaker 2>to be better at that, and I would be willing

683
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:17.640
<v Speaker 2>to bet that they've worked their tails off at making

684
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:20.759
<v Speaker 2>sure that they are. And look, I'll I mean, I

685
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:23.039
<v Speaker 2>would say it to him as well, like sometimes I

686
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:25.680
<v Speaker 2>don't think your guys are not getting rebounds because they're

687
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:27.960
<v Speaker 2>not fighting. I don't think it's because they're soft.

688
00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:28.079
<v Speaker 4>Now.

689
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:31.079
<v Speaker 2>The reality is just from a physicality standpoint, like Cason

690
00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:34.200
<v Speaker 2>Pryor is not a big physical presence, neither's James Scott.

691
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:35.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you really don't have that guy this year,

692
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:37.960
<v Speaker 2>and that's that's just something you're gonna have to counter.

693
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:41.960
<v Speaker 2>But it's nice to know that one they're not not

694
00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:45.960
<v Speaker 2>giving effort. I think this may I'm probably simplifying this

695
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:49.799
<v Speaker 2>more so than than than most are, but I think

696
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:52.000
<v Speaker 2>these dudes, every one of them that's out there playing,

697
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:54.839
<v Speaker 2>and I mean it, every one of them, especially now

698
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:57.839
<v Speaker 2>that Trail is hurt, They've never had a role where

699
00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:00.920
<v Speaker 2>they are really needed on the glass. They've been able

700
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:03.680
<v Speaker 2>to rebound here and there, but like they don't have

701
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:06.240
<v Speaker 2>the instincts to just turn and box out right away,

702
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:08.240
<v Speaker 2>because again it's you know, you should always do that,

703
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:10.880
<v Speaker 2>but you haven't always had to do that because you've

704
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:13.079
<v Speaker 2>played your whole career wherever it was, and you've never

705
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:16.680
<v Speaker 2>really been somebody that has been needed to be a

706
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:22.200
<v Speaker 2>seven eight rebound per game guy. I mean, I hate

707
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:25.519
<v Speaker 2>saying they're finesse biggs because that sounds insulting. Like Caseon

708
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Pryor is an athlete, he can go get rebounds like that,

709
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:29.519
<v Speaker 2>but like James Scott, he's a good athlete too, but

710
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:31.200
<v Speaker 2>like he's got to box somebody out. Like sometimes these

711
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:33.480
<v Speaker 2>guys get rebounds and that's what you want. But I'm like, man,

712
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:35.519
<v Speaker 2>he got that rebound because he's bigger. He got that

713
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:37.160
<v Speaker 2>rebound because he was in the right place right time.

714
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:40.279
<v Speaker 2>Like you got to box out and clearly, I mean

715
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:42.839
<v Speaker 2>that's basic stuff. That's stuff you learn whenever you're really young.

716
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:44.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's a scenario where Pat Kelsey is

717
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:46.960
<v Speaker 2>not emphasizing, hey, we got to turn and box out

718
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:49.119
<v Speaker 2>when a shot goes up. But I just think instincts

719
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:51.680
<v Speaker 2>are are not there for these guys yet, because again

720
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:54.799
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be by committee. There's no one guy on

721
00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:56.319
<v Speaker 2>your team this year that's just going to clean the

722
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:58.920
<v Speaker 2>backboard for you. So everybody's got to be able to

723
00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:00.920
<v Speaker 2>have the mindset of, like got it's gonna be a

724
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:03.400
<v Speaker 2>collective effort. Who knows, maybe one night Rain Smith, just

725
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:05.079
<v Speaker 2>because he's boxing his guy out, maybe he ends up

726
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:08.680
<v Speaker 2>with six rebounds and treyor I think could have been

727
00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:11.279
<v Speaker 2>that guy, because I think he is somebody that is

728
00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:13.799
<v Speaker 2>just a really gifted rebounder. He's not super physical, but

729
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:16.799
<v Speaker 2>he's a great athlete, has insane length, has good instincts.

730
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:23.200
<v Speaker 2>So you know, it's it's it's understandable that that's a

731
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:25.880
<v Speaker 2>concern for everybody, but I don't think if we go

732
00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:29.920
<v Speaker 2>down there and see them, can you know, and by

733
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:31.279
<v Speaker 2>the way, I'm not going hopefully you guys are going

734
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:33.400
<v Speaker 2>to be great, But if we see this team continue

735
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:37.079
<v Speaker 2>to have some physicality issues and maybe one of the

736
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:38.720
<v Speaker 2>reasons why they come up short in a game or

737
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:41.559
<v Speaker 2>two is because of the rebounding, it's still gonna be

738
00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:43.400
<v Speaker 2>an issue. But like, I don't think it's gonna be

739
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:46.039
<v Speaker 2>because they're not addressing it. And I think his answer

740
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:48.480
<v Speaker 2>put a little bit of worry in some fans that like, oh,

741
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:50.119
<v Speaker 2>he didn't think we have a problem on the glass

742
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:52.039
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think it's the case. I think he

743
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.000
<v Speaker 2>hears what he heard. He heard what he heard from Matt,

744
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:55.240
<v Speaker 2>even though Matt was I think trying to be as

745
00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:57.359
<v Speaker 2>nice as possible, and he was very professional. But he's

746
00:32:57.359 --> 00:32:59.920
<v Speaker 2>just gonna always defend his guys because that's who he is.

747
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:02.200
<v Speaker 2>All Right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side,

748
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:04.079
<v Speaker 2>wrap up the four o'clock hour. We've got some sound

749
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:06.480
<v Speaker 2>I want you guys to hear from both Jeff Brohm

750
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:10.400
<v Speaker 2>and Mark Stoops. Five days away from the Governor's Cup game,

751
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:13.839
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to be a wreck before this thing

752
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:19.880
<v Speaker 2>kicks off with the Governor's Cup game just five days away,

753
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:24.000
<v Speaker 2>as well as Louisville basketball getting back out there against

754
00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:26.759
<v Speaker 2>a really good team for just the second time this season. Obviously,

755
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:28.839
<v Speaker 2>that's been a big part of our conversation throughout the

756
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:31.519
<v Speaker 2>first two hours. But it was a wild last weekend

757
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:35.039
<v Speaker 2>in college football on Saturday that I'm not sure really

758
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:38.839
<v Speaker 2>anybody knows what it did to like the playoff. I mean,

759
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:43.279
<v Speaker 2>could there be so much chaos that you know, they

760
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:45.799
<v Speaker 2>just kind of, you know, leave it as is. I

761
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:47.759
<v Speaker 2>doubt it, but nothing would really shock me when it

762
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:49.440
<v Speaker 2>comes to the Committee as far as what they do,

763
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:53.160
<v Speaker 2>and I know the AP pole is not the playoff rankings,

764
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:58.680
<v Speaker 2>and they're really seemingly done differently. But if the AP

765
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:02.839
<v Speaker 2>poll voters are feeling the same way that the or

766
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:04.640
<v Speaker 2>if the committee members are feeling the same way that

767
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:07.720
<v Speaker 2>AP poll voters are feeling about the weekend, then they're

768
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:09.840
<v Speaker 2>going to show us that yes, they don't hold the

769
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:12.320
<v Speaker 2>same standard for everybody. The SEC is going to get

770
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:14.559
<v Speaker 2>a benefit of the doubt that others just don't get,

771
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:21.280
<v Speaker 2>because I mean, Alabama has had enough shortfalls this year

772
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:23.639
<v Speaker 2>to where like we know, they're not even worthy of

773
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:27.800
<v Speaker 2>a playoff, like they shouldn't be considered at all, and

774
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:32.000
<v Speaker 2>yet they still seem to get this benefit that has

775
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:35.760
<v Speaker 2>to be because they're Alabama and because of the history

776
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:39.000
<v Speaker 2>and because of what has been done years prior, which

777
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:41.159
<v Speaker 2>does like I would say that, you know, I feel

778
00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:44.400
<v Speaker 2>better about Bama and their ability and their talent than

779
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:49.239
<v Speaker 2>I do about you know, Vandy, because you know it's Baman,

780
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:51.960
<v Speaker 2>it's Vandy. But this year when the two teams played

781
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:55.119
<v Speaker 2>each other, guess who won Vandy? And I know people say, well,

782
00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:59.039
<v Speaker 2>look if they play that game none times and they

783
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:02.079
<v Speaker 2>play you know, they're they played ten games, there's no

784
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:04.360
<v Speaker 2>way Vandy sniff's another victory. Well, you may be right,

785
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:05.639
<v Speaker 2>but if that's the way you look at it, then

786
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:07.519
<v Speaker 2>why don't we play any games at all? Why don't

787
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:11.119
<v Speaker 2>we just have the SEC Invitational? And then what would

788
00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:12.760
<v Speaker 2>you say if you lost to Vandy in that? Like,

789
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:14.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I could just Again, I'm not telling you

790
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:20.039
<v Speaker 2>that I believe that Alabama is a terrible team, but

791
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:22.360
<v Speaker 2>you got to line up and play, and you got

792
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:24.239
<v Speaker 2>to win or you look you win or you lose,

793
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:27.360
<v Speaker 2>and then that has to matter. And like Alabama has

794
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:29.440
<v Speaker 2>shown us this year that they're not anywhere close to

795
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:31.639
<v Speaker 2>being what they typically are, and even if they were

796
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Speaker 2>and it was just bad luck, it doesn't matter. They've lost.

797
00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:37.599
<v Speaker 2>Losses have to matter. So again, the AP voters, let

798
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:41.039
<v Speaker 2>me just give you comparison here. Miami lost their first

799
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:44.239
<v Speaker 2>game of the year when they lost to Georgia Tech

800
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:47.800
<v Speaker 2>George Tech seven and four. Now George Tech at the

801
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:51.719
<v Speaker 2>time was solid, but that dropped Miami from number four

802
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:55.119
<v Speaker 2>to number twelve. Alabama's now lost their third game of

803
00:35:55.639 --> 00:36:01.079
<v Speaker 2>the year and humiliating fashion, twenty four to three to Oklahoma,

804
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:06.280
<v Speaker 2>who was five hundred at the time. And by the way,

805
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma only picked up their second was it their second

806
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:15.480
<v Speaker 2>or third victory at SEC? Either way, Now Alabama has

807
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:19.719
<v Speaker 2>two losses to unranked teams and they drop from number

808
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:23.760
<v Speaker 2>seven to number thirteen. Like I'm not saying they should

809
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:27.000
<v Speaker 2>be outside the top twenty five, but like other teams,

810
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:32.360
<v Speaker 2>what they with the same results, same situation. If they

811
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:35.280
<v Speaker 2>don't have the brand of Alabama and they don't reside

812
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:39.039
<v Speaker 2>in the Southeastern Conference, they're going to be held to

813
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:41.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're going to be punished more so than

814
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:44.760
<v Speaker 2>than Alabama would be. And look, I'm not I'm not

815
00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:48.000
<v Speaker 2>disagreeing with anybody that claims, like, come on, you can't

816
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:50.159
<v Speaker 2>tell me if Alabama played well, then why are we

817
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:52.199
<v Speaker 2>playing any games? If we're just gonna base it off

818
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:55.880
<v Speaker 2>of like, well, I know this team and that like okay, well,

819
00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:58.320
<v Speaker 2>then like the games don't matter then right, like we

820
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:02.559
<v Speaker 2>just we For some people who claim that preseason rankings

821
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:06.280
<v Speaker 2>are stupid and preseason rankings don't matter and the ape

822
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:07.519
<v Speaker 2>pole stupid, it doesn't matter.

823
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:08.039
<v Speaker 1>It does.

824
00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:13.400
<v Speaker 2>It creates the perception and the SEC and preseason rankings

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<v Speaker 2>and in the AP pole, and really, since the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>of time, they're not held accountable like other other leagues are.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, it is the best league in college football.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody would tell you otherwise. But if that's just what

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<v Speaker 2>if we're all just going to accept that and then realize, well,

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<v Speaker 2>because we know the league is the top league, we

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<v Speaker 2>just can't hold them accountable like we do the other teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Then again, why are you even playing games? Just go

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<v Speaker 2>in your go have your own like the SEC should

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<v Speaker 2>just play itself. I mean, that will never happen because

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<v Speaker 2>then who would they be able to claim that they're

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<v Speaker 2>better there? Like, it's just this is a year where

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<v Speaker 2>the committee playoff committee, those who you know, decide who

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<v Speaker 2>gets in. They're gonna there's gonna be no gray area.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be quite clear. Either they finally did hold

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<v Speaker 2>the SEC accountable, just like they hold other leagues accountable,

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<v Speaker 2>or they're confirming what we've accused them of since the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>which is that they just clearly think the SEC is.

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<v Speaker 4>Work.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, I'm not saying it's not the best league,

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<v Speaker 2>But if that's your counter to why you shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>held accountable the same way a Miami is when they

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<v Speaker 2>lose to Georgia Tech. The same way in Indiana is

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<v Speaker 2>when they lose to Ohio State at Ohio State, then

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<v Speaker 2>you're telling us the games don't matter, and last time

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<v Speaker 2>I check, they do. Maybe I'm wrong. All Right, we

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<v Speaker 2>got another hour left and a lot more to get into.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll let you hear from Jeff Brohm, Mark Stoops, both

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<v Speaker 2>guys talking about this rivalry matchup on Saturday, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>let you guys be a part of the show as well.

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