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<v Speaker 1>It's night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks very much, Nicole. As we started Tuesday night four

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<v Speaker 2>hour ride, we're gonna take you all the way to midnight,

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<v Speaker 2>well just about two minutes before midnight. My name is

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Ray, host of Nightside, heard every Monday through Friday

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<v Speaker 2>night here on WBC Boston's news radio ten thirty. It's

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<v Speaker 2>get to about half the country, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 2>with a fifty thousand watt clear channel signal. Rob Brooks

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<v Speaker 2>is back in the control room in the broadcast house,

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<v Speaker 2>all set to take your calls, but not until nine o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>We have four very interesting guests with four very interesting topics.

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<v Speaker 2>As always here in the eight o'clock hour, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>start off with Kate Wiseman of the American Cancer Society

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<v Speaker 2>Cancer Action Network. She's a state lead Ambassador for Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 2>and a cervical cancer survivor. Kate Wiseman, welcome to Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to Nightside. Big Day, Big Days.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Yeah, Big Day, Big Day, Big evening too.

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<v Speaker 3>We're at the UH. We're in downtown Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 3>At the lights of Hope ceremony, which is a beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>celebration of our of our efforts today in honor of

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<v Speaker 3>all of the loved ones we're doing it all for.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was a long day and it's a beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>night here.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned you anticipated my first question, So how many

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<v Speaker 2>folks from Massachusetts are down there and how many folks

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<v Speaker 2>were working throughout the day lobbying legislators.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, in Massachusetts we had fifteen volunteers representing all nine

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<v Speaker 3>districts very proudly meeting with our federal lawmakers. But we

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<v Speaker 3>had over seven hundred danas all across the country and

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<v Speaker 3>from Puerto Rico and Guam and Washington, d C. Meeting

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<v Speaker 3>with lawmakers. Pretty much every member of Congress was met with.

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<v Speaker 3>Today we have over four hundred and seventy meetings amongst

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<v Speaker 3>all the volunteers. So we certainly had a strong showing

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<v Speaker 3>in Massachusetts, but really it was so wonderful to come

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<v Speaker 3>together with all volunteers across the country.

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<v Speaker 2>So obviously, you know, cancer is a horrific disease that

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<v Speaker 2>has touched properly every family in America in some form

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<v Speaker 2>of fashion, in some cases on multiple occasions. What is

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<v Speaker 2>the goal to be accomplished today. Is I understand that

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<v Speaker 2>the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network wants more cancer

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<v Speaker 2>screenings of various types of cancer available, particularly to Americans

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five and older.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's exactly right. So we were pretty clear with

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<v Speaker 3>two apps today to our federal lawmakers. The first would

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<v Speaker 3>be to really receive their support for the highest amount

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<v Speaker 3>of funding possible for the NIH and the NCI. That

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<v Speaker 3>is where the research and prevention FOLK programs come from.

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<v Speaker 3>That are the reasons so many of us cancer survivors

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<v Speaker 3>are still here today. So that was one of our

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<v Speaker 3>first asks. And then we were also asking them to

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<v Speaker 3>finally get across the finish line a bill that we've

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<v Speaker 3>been working on for a long time called the Multicare

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry Medicare mult Cancer Early Detection Screening Coverage app

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<v Speaker 3>which would basically expand Medicare access to cancers based on

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<v Speaker 3>blood tests and so they would be able to test

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<v Speaker 3>for cancers via blood test and that would be mean

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<v Speaker 3>earlier screening, earlier detection, which means more people would survive

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<v Speaker 3>the disease. So we are really looking to get that

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<v Speaker 3>bill passed across the finish line.

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<v Speaker 2>Now those blood tests are available on today, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>expensive and not every American can afford them. What sort

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<v Speaker 2>of a price tag? I mean, obviously, if we could

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<v Speaker 2>ever eradicate cancer or save some people's wives from can answer,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no cost that that you would not be willing

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<v Speaker 2>to bear. But what sort of price tag do you

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<v Speaker 2>think is on what you were advocating today in Washington?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? Currently, I mean thousands you know of dollars, and

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<v Speaker 3>so we really need to make sure that Medica.

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<v Speaker 2>Did we just lose her? Okay, well, let's let's see

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<v Speaker 2>if she might be able to connect back with us again.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever we do these interviews and sometimes the guests are

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<v Speaker 2>in a place where there's a lot of cell phone activity,

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to Kate? We lost the connection. So we

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<v Speaker 2>will just emphasize that if you are interested in any

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<v Speaker 2>of this, which I hope you are, you can contact

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<v Speaker 2>the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network. It's pretty simple

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<v Speaker 2>home age Fight cancer dot org. There should be you know,

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<v Speaker 2>more screening available. Uh, there is screening available for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we've we've made some progress, but we need to have

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<v Speaker 2>more screening available because we're we lose people every day

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure all of us we have Kate back. Okay, great,

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<v Speaker 2>I vamped a little bit. Kate. We got you back here.

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<v Speaker 2>We lost a couple of minutes or so. I've just

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<v Speaker 2>plugged the website Fight cancer dot org. Give me an

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<v Speaker 2>idea what we're talking about just in terms of this

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<v Speaker 2>cannot be a big ticket item. Congress deals with trillions

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<v Speaker 2>of dollars billions of dollars. Is there a number that

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<v Speaker 2>we're that you can associate this with or no?

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<v Speaker 3>In terms of the cost of.

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<v Speaker 2>The Eh, it's all in. If if today everything that

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<v Speaker 2>you folks are advocating and suggesting, if it was all in,

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<v Speaker 2>what are we talking about billions? I mean, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>it's billions of dollars, but how many billions of dollars

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<v Speaker 2>I assume it's going to be in terms of the

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<v Speaker 2>federal budget of four point seven trillion, It's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a fraction of a fraction.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, So we're asking for fifty one billion dollars

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<v Speaker 3>for the National Institute of Health, including seven point nine

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<v Speaker 3>billion dollars for cancer research at the NCI. And we're

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<v Speaker 3>also asking for two hundred and seventy two million dollars

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<v Speaker 3>for the Centers for Disease Control and prevention program in

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<v Speaker 3>cancer programs, including two hundred and thirty million dollars for

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<v Speaker 3>the National Breast in Cervical Cancer Early Detection Program. So

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<v Speaker 3>we're certainly talking big numbers here.

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, now, is that is that about shit? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that fifty one billion all in or is it fifty

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<v Speaker 2>one billion plus those few other billion you threw in

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<v Speaker 2>which will probably get you up around sixty billion.

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<v Speaker 3>The fifty one billion is all in for the NIH

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<v Speaker 3>and the NCI, and then the four hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 3>two million for the CDC cancer programs are a separate ask.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, those expenses, those expenditures are the sort of

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<v Speaker 2>expenditures that government should be looking at. Did you get

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<v Speaker 2>a sense today that again not that you talked to

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<v Speaker 2>all five hundred and thirty five members of Congress, but

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<v Speaker 2>did you get a sense today that you're making some

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, and especially in Massachusetts. I mean, look, at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day, in Massachusetts, we have, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the hub of research and innovation, especially in the cancer space.

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<v Speaker 3>So our Massachusetts lawmakers were certainly on board to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that the funding is there to make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>we are saving lives. We're preventing people from you know,

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<v Speaker 3>having to go through really expensive treatments as well. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we were feeling that there is a movement, and the

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<v Speaker 3>needles certainly got pushed today a bit with us meeting

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<v Speaker 3>with them and sharing our stories as to why we

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<v Speaker 3>really need to get this funding through else.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Kate, congratulations on the effort, and we wish you

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<v Speaker 2>all the best of luck because you're down there advocating

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<v Speaker 2>really for all of us. The website that I just

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<v Speaker 2>gave before, i'd like to give one more time Fight

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<v Speaker 2>cancer dot org and hope you have a safe trip home.

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<v Speaker 2>And congratulations on you being a survivor of a horrific

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<v Speaker 2>form of cancer. Thanks so much for your courage. Appreciate it. Kate, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you're more than welcome give you a voice anytime of

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<v Speaker 2>the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network. We get back.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk about insomnia, Insomnia in America and

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<v Speaker 2>what keeps Americans up at night. It might not be

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<v Speaker 2>what you think. We're gonna be talking with Julia Forbes

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<v Speaker 2>of the US News. She's the sleep editor. I always

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<v Speaker 2>want to say US News and World Report, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's now formerly the US News, and she's

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<v Speaker 2>the US News sleep editor. Back on Nightside right after this.

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<v Speaker 4>Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World

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<v Speaker 4>Nightside Studios on DOBBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, all of us, of course, occasionally occasionally have

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<v Speaker 2>trouble falling asleep. I mean that's just normal. However, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a new survey that reveals the worries that keep most Americans,

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<v Speaker 2>or many Americans, I should say, up at night with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Now is Julia Forbes of US News, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>still US News and World Report. She's the sleep editor. Julia,

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<v Speaker 2>you're the first sleep editor. I've worked with some sleepy editors,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've never interviewed a sleep editor before. How are

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<v Speaker 2>you tonight?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you so much for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I hope you didn't take that comment personally. I

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<v Speaker 2>was intended as a compliment. What are the big worries

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<v Speaker 2>that are keeping all of us? Well, not all of us?

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<v Speaker 2>I sleep like a like a log. I fall asleep

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<v Speaker 2>pretty quickly and I'm gone for the night. But those

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<v Speaker 2>who are not sleeping, what is keeping them up at night?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, first, you're going to have to impart some of

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<v Speaker 6>your wisdom and sleep secrets to all of us. Because

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<v Speaker 6>actually we found in our survey that twenty two percent

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<v Speaker 6>of Americans we reported this year or never report wake

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<v Speaker 6>up feeling well arrested. So you must be doing something

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<v Speaker 6>that we need to catch on.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it all on.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's clean living and getting into the gym

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<v Speaker 2>and getting out and breathing fresh air. I think, seriously, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of tied to the chair for four hours

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<v Speaker 2>at night on my talk show, but during the day,

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<v Speaker 2>I pretty much do what I want, go where I want,

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<v Speaker 2>And of course I got a prep for the talk show. Now, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I finish at midnight. All kidding aside, I might do

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<v Speaker 2>a crossword puzzle. That's my secret. Do a crossword puzzle,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe catch a late game somewhere on the West Coast,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of innings of baseball or a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of basketball or hockey. At the bitch of time, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>ready to snooze. It's as simple as that.

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<v Speaker 6>That's great. We'll circle back to the importance of sleep

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<v Speaker 6>routine later on in our conversation. But to answer your question, so,

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<v Speaker 6>the number one top worry amongst our respondents this year

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<v Speaker 6>was the cost of living. And actually we've been doing

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<v Speaker 6>this poll for a few years now, since twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 6>and have had the opportunity to survey thousands of Americans,

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<v Speaker 6>and believe it or not, since twenty twenty two, this

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<v Speaker 6>remains the number one concern a month. Data that we've

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<v Speaker 6>gotten back is the cost of living just increasing year

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<v Speaker 6>every year.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything's been going up. With that, We've had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of inflation. I can understand that absolutely absolutely. What's number two.

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<v Speaker 6>Number two for this year is gun violence in America

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<v Speaker 6>and that is followed also by the twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 6>presidential election. Number four we found the four inside is

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<v Speaker 6>climate change. So very heavy topics that of course keep

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<v Speaker 6>people up at night. But I'm happy to impart some

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<v Speaker 6>wisdom on how we can settle down, wind down, and

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<v Speaker 6>ultimately start sleeping better.

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<v Speaker 2>It's here. Well look, I'm all ears.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, great, I'm glad because usually I can talk for

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<v Speaker 6>hours about sleep and mattresses. So here we go. So

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<v Speaker 6>I want to talk about the importance of sleep routine,

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<v Speaker 6>which you just talked about. It's so important not to

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<v Speaker 6>look at a screen than an hour out before bedtime.

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<v Speaker 6>And I know that you said you like your late

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<v Speaker 6>Next show and that worked for you. But we have

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<v Speaker 6>something called circadian rhythm. It's like an internal thought going

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<v Speaker 6>we may be stressed late at night. But if you're

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<v Speaker 2>So that's rhythm, right. I thought circadian rhythm was a

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<v Speaker 6>So come on, gang, we can do it. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 6>start recognizing, Hey, I should start winding down to ten

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<v Speaker 6>o'clock PM. Wouldn't it be nice? But ten o'clock PM

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<v Speaker 6>go ahead and start falling asleep. Number two for this

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<v Speaker 6>year and twenty twenty three bad habit was screen time

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<v Speaker 6>in bed. So, like I said, go ahead and put

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<v Speaker 6>that way you're like not doing skull and like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>side you go to bed at ten o'clock, that will

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<v Speaker 2>probably soothe your nerves just by sitting there in the dark,

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<v Speaker 2>listening to the radio, and you'll drift off to sleepland right.

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<v Speaker 6>your adrenaline going or in the case of our survey,

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<v Speaker 6>your stress levels rising. Right, you want to be relaxed,

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<v Speaker 6>so it's something that's soothing, relaxing, and who's to say,

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<v Speaker 6>find part of the very team that works for you.

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<v Speaker 6>And if you ever have big concerns like hey, insomnia,

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<v Speaker 6>through the process of, you know, really establishing a healthy

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<v Speaker 2>The materials that you sent, and one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that I didn't see there, which I thought I would

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<v Speaker 2>have seen, was problems at work, either people who were

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<v Speaker 2>their job was a dead end, and they weren't going anywhere. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>they were afraid that their company might be going out

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<v Speaker 2>of business and getting shipped overseas. So job loss, surprisingly

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<v Speaker 2>to me, was not a topic that kept people awake

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<v Speaker 2>at night. Does that surprise you or no.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it could pop up in our data, but from

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<v Speaker 6>what we gathered did the five topics that I've presented

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<v Speaker 6>to you were the most prevalent. So it's not to

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<v Speaker 6>say that they didn't pop up on our radar. It's

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<v Speaker 6>just majority factored into these five. So who knows. It

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<v Speaker 6>sure to report back. But as always, you know, try

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<v Speaker 2>You know, is this sleep survey? Is that done by

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<v Speaker 2>US News and World Report or are you reporting on

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<v Speaker 2>a sleep survey that survey that's been done by some

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<v Speaker 2>form of sleep organization.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's done by us, it's done by our organization.

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<v Speaker 6>We use a third party survey tool of course, go

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<v Speaker 6>ahead and pull thousands of Americans, get a wide data

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<v Speaker 6>and also in a way brings everyone together because we're

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<v Speaker 6>all going to experience sleeplessness and sleep is so important

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<v Speaker 6>for our health, so we can all come together, share tips,

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<v Speaker 6>tricks and vice versa, because it's universal. At the end

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<v Speaker 6>and man, I wish we can all get ten hours.

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<v Speaker 6>So we're working towards it.

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<v Speaker 5>Guys, we'll get it, but oh my god, better.

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<v Speaker 2>Once again, Julia anticipated my final question, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>growing up, you always told eight hours of sleep, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I used to think, you know, eight is great,

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<v Speaker 2>nine is fine, and eleven is heaven on weekends. What

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<v Speaker 2>very at different times in your life? Obviously, new parents

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<v Speaker 2>with newborns don't get a lot of good night's sleep,

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<v Speaker 2>we understand that. But do older folks, people who are

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<v Speaker 2>on the wrong side of fifty, that they need less

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<v Speaker 6>That's a great question, and it's actually one that we

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<v Speaker 6>cover in my article. So essentially, anywhere from if you're

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<v Speaker 6>the CDC. But let's caveat that. Maybe you have some

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<v Speaker 6>long race or just athletic activity. There are some nuances

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<v Speaker 6>just fine. So again, seven hours minimum is usually baseline,

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So what you're saying is there is a point

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<v Speaker 2>in time as folks get a little older, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>average here, right, so you know people don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>take these numbers literally. But as you move, you know

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<v Speaker 2>into retirement, you don't need the eight hours as what

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<v Speaker 2>you might have needed in your twenties. Very interesting subject, Julia, really,

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<v Speaker 2>and you've been a great guest and you've been fun

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to, which which which for me is what

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<v Speaker 2>makes a great guest, the great information and when they're fun.

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<v Speaker 2>So thanks for joining us and we'll have you back.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to you back anytime.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, thank you so much for having me on.

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<v Speaker 5>It's been to blast all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, sweet dreams great. Thanks Julian again, if you ever

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<v Speaker 2>con sleep, listen to my show I Go All the

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<v Speaker 2>Way to Midnight. Okay. We're easy to pick up on

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<v Speaker 2>AM radio. Okay, thanks, Thanks, Okay, And if you're having

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<v Speaker 2>trouble sleeping Shore you can listen to Nightside. You can

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<v Speaker 2>anytime on iHeart. We have a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 2>listen on iHeart. My name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside.

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<v Speaker 2>We got the newscast coming at you. Coming up on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side, we have kind of a shocking report.

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<v Speaker 2>This one says that there's a twenty percent hike, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>percent increase in calls for kids at poison control centers

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<v Speaker 2>for kids chugging energy drinks. This is somewhat something I

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<v Speaker 2>with our guest, who's a registered dietitian nutritionist, right after

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<v Speaker 2>the news at the bottom of the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WZ Boston's

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<v Speaker 2>I want to welcome Uma Kalin's who's a registered dietitian

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<v Speaker 2>and also a nutritionist, which means she knows a lot

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<v Speaker 2>about food, amongst other things. She is with a group

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<v Speaker 2>called Well Rooted Health and Nutrition. And I guess poison

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<v Speaker 2>control centers. Poison control centers are reporting a shocking twenty

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<v Speaker 2>percent hike in calls for kids chucking energy drinks. Uma, Uma,

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, welcome to nightside. And when they say

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<v Speaker 2>a twenty percent hike in calls for kids, how are

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<v Speaker 2>we defining kids? Little kids, big kids? What's what's thet

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<v Speaker 2>of the age range we're talking here?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so I mean, really, caffeine isn't recommended for kids

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<v Speaker 7>at all younger than twelve years old. So when we

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<v Speaker 7>see those statistics, it's definitely speaking to kids who are

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<v Speaker 7>younger than twelve years old. Of course they're included in

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<v Speaker 5>I think it just.

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<v Speaker 7>Really varies, but all in all, more younger kids, kids

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<v Speaker 7>in ages six, eight, nine, even, we're starting to see

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<v Speaker 7>more cases. Yeah, so it's definitely alarming.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think most of us when we think about

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<v Speaker 2>the energy drinks, you see them in stores, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know there's some of them that everybody knows about. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to mention any of their names. First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>why are kids drinking energy? I mean, what's the kick here?

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<v Speaker 7>I really think it's just the increase in marketing. It's

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<v Speaker 7>very appealing, even in gaming communities. If you think about that,

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<v Speaker 7>it's definitely a thing. Hey, let's stay alert and be

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<v Speaker 7>able to continue to play these games. The list goes

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<v Speaker 7>on and on, just more availability being in the household

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<v Speaker 7>or just readily available in stores. Sometimes kids will just

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<v Speaker 7>grab them and take a sip, not thinking it's a

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<v Speaker 7>big deal, but not knowing that even what we considered

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<v Speaker 7>to be a lesser amount as adults is a high, high,

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<v Speaker 7>non safe amount for kids.

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<v Speaker 2>So with all of this stuff going on, generations of

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<v Speaker 2>kids have grown up without energy drinks. We didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>energy drinks when I was a kid. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>you had a Pepsi or a coke, I guess that's

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<v Speaker 2>an energy drink of some sort, but nothing like what's

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<v Speaker 2>young people today who are again using these They're going

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<v Speaker 2>for this stuff. For us, I assume some of them

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<v Speaker 2>are hooked for life.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean with any type of caffeine source, we develop

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<v Speaker 7>a tolerance, and typically people want higher amounts. You think

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<v Speaker 7>about coffee coffee drinkers, it's usually let's have a cup

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<v Speaker 7>to start the day morning, a cup at noon, and

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<v Speaker 7>so the same thing definitely can apply with these other

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<v Speaker 7>sources of caffeine in the form of energy drinks. And

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<v Speaker 7>that's actually a really great point that you bring up.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's going to be really interesting just to

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<v Speaker 7>kind of see how this plays out throughout their adulthood

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<v Speaker 7>as they continue to get older.

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<v Speaker 2>When did energy drinks become so popular that we now

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<v Speaker 2>are are concerned. I'm assuming that you have been thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about energy drinks before twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 5>Four, Oh for sure.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean I can even recall when I was in

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<v Speaker 7>high school. I think the energy drinks that were really

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<v Speaker 7>popular back then, which is many years ago, was Red

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<v Speaker 7>Bull Monster. Those are probably the two big ones that

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<v Speaker 7>were real popular. I even remember seeing a Red Bull

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<v Speaker 7>truck come to our high school and pass them out

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<v Speaker 7>for free to the students. I basically remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, remember they used to pass out cigarettes for free

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<v Speaker 2>in the streets.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, exactly, So those are the ones that I remember,

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<v Speaker 7>but I think over the years it's just been more

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<v Speaker 7>and more different ones that have come on the market.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was now red Bull still around, I assume

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<v Speaker 2>in Monster so for sure. Okay, so they just maybe

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<v Speaker 2>don't have as much of the market, but it's a

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<v Speaker 2>huge What are the what did the whole numbers say?

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<v Speaker 2>What percentage of teenage kids? And when I do these interviews,

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<v Speaker 2>I ask questions that I think my audience wants to answer,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't necessarily clear these questions with my guest.

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<v Speaker 2>What percentage of kids, let's call them teenagers seriously dabbling

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<v Speaker 2>it with these sorts of energy drinks? How high a percentages?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure there's a percentage which you're telling how

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<v Speaker 2>many of them are smoke in marijuana? How many of

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<v Speaker 2>them have done this that or the other thing. Is

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<v Speaker 2>there a reliable number as to how many of them,

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<v Speaker 2>what percentage of site just teens or whatever, are using

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<v Speaker 2>these energy drinks?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, well, I don't have those exact statistics in front

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<v Speaker 7>of me. What I can definitely say is that it

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<v Speaker 7>is incredibly popular teenagers, especially for thinking, you know, high

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<v Speaker 7>school driving age. They have the ability to go to

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<v Speaker 7>a convenience store, They're able to go off campus oftentimes

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<v Speaker 7>and get lunch and get these different types of options.

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<v Speaker 7>And so with them being so readily available just about everywhere,

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<v Speaker 7>I can definitely say that it is a very very

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<v Speaker 7>high percentage. That specific percentage, I don't know just quite

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<v Speaker 7>at this time.

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<v Speaker 2>I have different states in an effort to maybe dissuade

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<v Speaker 2>kids from dabbling with these energy drinks a getting hooked

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<v Speaker 2>in the first place. Are there deposits? You know? When

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<v Speaker 2>I buy a you know, a case of pepsi light,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, diet pepsi. I was going to say course life,

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<v Speaker 2>but let's keep it diet Pepsi. I have to pay

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<v Speaker 2>a nickel here in Massachusetts and Nikola can as a deposit.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I don't bring this, it's you know, it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very popular innovative in the nineteen eighties because

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<v Speaker 2>we were people seeing cans strewn across the landscape, Red

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<v Speaker 2>Bull and Monster in these energy drinks. They do they

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<v Speaker 2>have to pay a deposit on their those containers or

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<v Speaker 2>in most in most states or do you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, I'm not quite ture on that answer.

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<v Speaker 7>I know in my own state that's definitely not the case.

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<v Speaker 7>I do think that that would vary vice from state

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<v Speaker 7>to state, but that would be really really interesting, just

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<v Speaker 7>because I mean, I could even distinctly remember Jess. A

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<v Speaker 7>couple of weeks ago, I spoke to a group of

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<v Speaker 7>high school athletes and it was a combination of freshmen

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<v Speaker 7>all the way through seniors. And in this presentation there,

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<v Speaker 7>I literally just did a quick glance and at least

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<v Speaker 7>seven or eight of them had an energy drink sitting

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<v Speaker 7>on their desk. So I know that in class, in class,

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<v Speaker 7>that was almost like teenager's version of coffee. They prefer

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<v Speaker 7>that it tastes good, that these different types of energy

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<v Speaker 7>drinks have such a huge variety of appealing flavors and

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<v Speaker 7>these different health claims and benefits. It's not just energy

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<v Speaker 7>boost but it's okay, it's got vitamins, it's got minerals,

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<v Speaker 7>and so these other flashity, flashy marketing terms that can

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<v Speaker 7>very well draw in these younger kids, these teenagers. So

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<v Speaker 7>it's really interesting how much it's become so popular. And

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<v Speaker 7>I feel like just about every time I go to

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<v Speaker 7>the store, at least on a monthly basis, I see

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<v Speaker 7>a new variation of an energy drink that's on the market.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's definitely competitive.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a tough question. It's not intended to discourage you,

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<v Speaker 2>but are you finding a losing battle?

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<v Speaker 7>You know, that's a really great question. I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 7>I feel like it provides a huge opportunity for awareness

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<v Speaker 7>and education. So specifically, to give you an example, in

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<v Speaker 7>that classroom, we were specifically talking about fueling for performance

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<v Speaker 7>and sport and how as opposed to relying on caffeine,

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<v Speaker 7>they really would benefit from being more focused on a

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<v Speaker 7>balanced diet, fueling their body with healthy carbohydrates and really

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<v Speaker 7>just giving them that knowledge that they can apply and understand.

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<v Speaker 7>So awareness is really important for not only the kids,

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<v Speaker 7>but the parents so that they understand, Okay, we don't

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<v Speaker 7>need to be doing this. We potentially are drinking too

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<v Speaker 7>much of these energy drinks and leaving them in the house. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 7>our teenagers and kids have access to it and think

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<v Speaker 7>it's okay, and it can be this positive domino fact

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<v Speaker 7>if that education and awareness is more of a more

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<v Speaker 7>of a push.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've never I drink a lot of pepsi on weekends,

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<v Speaker 2>I have. You know, my drink of choice is coarse light.

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<v Speaker 2>But energy drinks have no appeal to me, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>I have enough energy about energy.

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<v Speaker 5>Drinks, right, that's great segment.

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<v Speaker 2>I just did a segment last My last guest was

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<v Speaker 2>about Americans, uh, not being able to sleep well at night.

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<v Speaker 2>I assume that there's an adverse impact on kids or

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<v Speaker 2>anyone who's having energy drinks during the week, never mind

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<v Speaker 2>what it's going to do to their hot palpitations right around.

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, absolutely, those are major concerns. And the and the

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<v Speaker 7>kind of confusing part about it is is that sometimes

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<v Speaker 7>depending on how young the child is, they may not

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<v Speaker 7>know what's going on. You know, we see kids as

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<v Speaker 7>naturally being energetic, very full of energy, so then we

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<v Speaker 7>add that to the mix. It could definitely be a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of issu use that that come about the consumption

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<v Speaker 7>of routine energy drink drinking energy drink. So sleep is

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<v Speaker 7>definitely concerned because that's going to affect how they function

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<v Speaker 7>in class, their mood in general. And so yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of things that could definitely go wrong in

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<v Speaker 7>the long run.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, you've been a great guest, Oma Collins, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for your time. Is there a website that we

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<v Speaker 2>can send there, Yes, you can take we can go

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<v Speaker 2>to and get more information let's have it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, it's well rooted so r O O T as

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<v Speaker 7>and as a Nancy dot com so well rooted HN

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<v Speaker 7>dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, which stands for health and nutrition health and also

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<v Speaker 2>the word so well rooted HN dot com. Great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I really enjoyed my station. Uh. And I'm a huge

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<v Speaker 2>proponent of what you're trying to do and make people

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<v Speaker 2>aware because I got to tell you this is these

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<v Speaker 2>are not good habits to develop.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a civilis definitely, and I appreciate your support. We're

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<v Speaker 7>doing what we can for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing great well. Thank you, Uma Collins. We'll be back

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<v Speaker 2>on Nightside and I'm going to ask the question and

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<v Speaker 2>I know what your answer is, and I think the

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<v Speaker 2>answer will be a little surprising. There's a survey where

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<v Speaker 2>which is the rudest city in the United States? No,

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<v Speaker 2>Boston is not number one. Trust me on that. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk with an etiquette expert and a best

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<v Speaker 2>selling author, keynote speaker who runs a group called Show

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<v Speaker 2>Up Well Consulting. Her name is Jan Goss. Talk with

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<v Speaker 2>her on the other side of this break on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 4>Now back to Dan ray Mine from the Window World

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<v Speaker 4>Nightside Studios on w b Z to news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>We're about to talk about the rudest cities in America. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I know this is a generalization, but it's always interesting

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<v Speaker 2>with us. Is Jan Goss? Jane, Welcome to Nightside. How

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<v Speaker 2>are you?

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you? Dan? I'm great. We're going from Boston to

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<v Speaker 5>Austin tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're in Austin. Well that's great.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm in the Austin area.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, absolutely, Willie Nelson's hometown.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, that's I am not far from him at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, say hello to Willie when you see him.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I will do it sometimes I do.

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<v Speaker 2>He's still going strong. Well, Austin is not on the

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<v Speaker 2>list of the rude cities, but bost Thank god.

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<v Speaker 5>I did check, Dan, I checked, No, I did it.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it. I like it. So we're not number one.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not something you want to be number one

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<v Speaker 2>in my six How first, we're number six. The rudest

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<v Speaker 2>city right now, according to this is Miami, followed by Philadelphia, Tampa,

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<v Speaker 2>which I wouldn't have expected, Louisville, Kentucky, which I definitely

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<v Speaker 2>would have expected, Oakland, and then Boston. How did they decide,

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<v Speaker 2>how did they do this? How is it done scientifically?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is this you know, kind of a fun little

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<v Speaker 2>exercise every couple of years.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I wasn't part of that part I of the poll,

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<v Speaker 5>and I read.

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<v Speaker 2>The sad news, is what you're telling me?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yes, exactly, I read. I did read the report,

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<v Speaker 5>and they did explain how they got it. It is

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<v Speaker 5>subjective because it's a you know, on a scale of

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<v Speaker 5>one to ten, how do you write? But it was

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<v Speaker 5>pretty comprehensive. But I do think, whether your city was

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<v Speaker 5>on there or not, that we could all use a

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<v Speaker 5>great lesson in protocol.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're an adequate expert, So tell us some of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that maybe we could fix, not only here

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<v Speaker 2>in Boston, but we're hearing a lot, we're heard in

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of these cities. Actually, what can we do

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<v Speaker 2>uh to uh? I'm I'm a Bostonian, I'm a life Bostonian,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got to tell you, when I meet people

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<v Speaker 2>from other parts of the country, I really am delighted

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm welcoming, and I really have fun talking to

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<v Speaker 2>people from other cities. I really mean that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're supposedly cold and puritanical and I just don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that's really Boston. But tell us what we can do

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<v Speaker 2>to shed this image of being a rude city.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we need more people like you, Dan, That's the

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<v Speaker 5>thing is. And I'm a firm believer. I do listen

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<v Speaker 5>to statistics, I listen to other people's thoughts, but I

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<v Speaker 5>travel and I'm in different cities, and I'm still a

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<v Speaker 5>firm believer that most people are good, most people are kind,

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<v Speaker 5>Most people care about other people. We just hear about

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<v Speaker 5>the ones that aren't because they're so obnoxious perception.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the people you're sitting in the traffic light

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<v Speaker 2>and they have the music on their radio tuned up, blasting,

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<v Speaker 2>and the windows are rolled down. I'm actually dak Raib

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<v Speaker 2>who said, do you like the music? And he's loved

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<v Speaker 2>the music. I said, why'd you roll your windows up

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<v Speaker 2>so you can enjoy it even more?

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly? Well, and I think you hit the nail on

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<v Speaker 5>the head. The number one issue, Dan, is awareness. It's

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<v Speaker 5>raising awareness. People are so self consumed that they are

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<v Speaker 5>unaware of how their behavior affects other people around them.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we just get caught up in our own world,

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<v Speaker 5>in our own minds, And of course then you throw

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<v Speaker 5>in the electronic devices, and you know it really compounds

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<v Speaker 5>the problem.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, there's no question, and I know that that I

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<v Speaker 8>feel that, you know like you do that most Americans

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<v Speaker 8>are really good people, you know, put aside the people

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<v Speaker 8>who are going to try to rob you or something

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<v Speaker 8>like that, you know, but the average American is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Good person and they will lend a hand. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I can remember when I lived in Boston and one

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<v Speaker 2>day they had a parade in Boston of a group

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<v Speaker 2>that dealt with a hospital here, and there was one

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<v Speaker 2>gentleman that really had The older gentleman had to go

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<v Speaker 2>to the bathroom and I said, well, you come up

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<v Speaker 2>in my condominium and you can use the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean right, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>When I lived in downtown Boston, someone would stop me

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<v Speaker 2>and ask me for directions. In Boston is a confusing city.

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<v Speaker 2>If I was out just for say a walk, which

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<v Speaker 2>I often was, I'd say, you know what instead of

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<v Speaker 2>me telling you, let me jump in your cry and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll show you, and they would let they would you

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<v Speaker 2>drive them? I mean, you drive with them and get

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<v Speaker 2>them to where they want And they say, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to drive? No, you'll never find your way

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<v Speaker 2>back and walk back. Don't worry about it. Yeah, why not?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, Dan, I know that firsthand experience because you

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<v Speaker 5>don't know this about me. But I started school. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>talking kindergarten, first grade in Boston and as a little child. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>I remember one day I got lost walking home from

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<v Speaker 5>school and a kind of course, now i'd be scared

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<v Speaker 5>to death to tell my children and the grandchildren to

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<v Speaker 5>get in the car with anybody. But you know, here

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<v Speaker 5>I was in the Boston area and someone helped me

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<v Speaker 5>find my mom and they were so kind, and I

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<v Speaker 5>just I do believe there's kindness all around us. But

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<v Speaker 5>we can do some things to shift this.

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<v Speaker 2>Amount of time. Here's you. But I got to ask,

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<v Speaker 2>what time did you grow up at? What part of Boston?

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<v Speaker 5>I was in Natick?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I know Natick. We lived in Sherlin for many years.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, absolutely, Maybe that's where my dad taught it BEU

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<v Speaker 5>for a while. Yes, up there.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, that's my law school. That's where I graduated from

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<v Speaker 2>law school. Wow, yeah, we get there's these connections here. Jen. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>I am flat out of time, but I love to

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<v Speaker 2>have you again because I love your enthusiasm. I really

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<v Speaker 2>love your enthusiasm. That's that's so important in a guest.

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<v Speaker 2>And how can folks get in touch with you, cook,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're an etquin expert, how can they how can

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<v Speaker 2>they maybe talk to you directly?

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<v Speaker 5>Come see me at show upwell dot com. Don't just

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<v Speaker 5>show up in life. We want to show up well, Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, Jan, I really do. You sound like

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<v Speaker 2>a great guest and a great human being. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think you learned well growing up in Boston. Thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. Okay, we'll have you, bet I would

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Be aware. There we go.

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<v Speaker 2>You bet you? We bet you? All right, we come

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<v Speaker 2>back on to talk with John Deaton. He's the Republican

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<v Speaker 2>candidate for the United States Senate running against Elizabeth Warren.

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<v Speaker 2>We invited Senator Warren to join us tonight. I'll let

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<v Speaker 2>you know what her reply was right after the nine

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock news, right after I introduced you to John Dee

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<v Speaker 2>and we would be back right after the night