Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Nicole. As we started Tuesday night four
Speaker 2: hour ride, we're gonna take you all the way to midnight,
Speaker 2: well just about two minutes before midnight. My name is
Speaker 2: Dan Ray, host of Nightside, heard every Monday through Friday
Speaker 2: night here on WBC Boston's news radio ten thirty. It's
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Speaker 2: get to about half the country, believe it or not,
Speaker 2: with a fifty thousand watt clear channel signal. Rob Brooks
Speaker 2: is back in the control room in the broadcast house,
Speaker 2: all set to take your calls, but not until nine o'clock.
Speaker 2: We have four very interesting guests with four very interesting topics.
Speaker 2: As always here in the eight o'clock hour, we're gonna
Speaker 2: start off with Kate Wiseman of the American Cancer Society
Speaker 2: Cancer Action Network. She's a state lead Ambassador for Massachusetts
Speaker 2: and a cervical cancer survivor. Kate Wiseman, welcome to Welcome
Speaker 2: to Nightside. Big Day, Big Days.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Yeah, Big Day, Big Day, Big evening too.
Speaker 3: We're at the UH. We're in downtown Washington, d C.
Speaker 3: At the lights of Hope ceremony, which is a beautiful
Speaker 3: celebration of our of our efforts today in honor of
Speaker 3: all of the loved ones we're doing it all for.
Speaker 3: So it was a long day and it's a beautiful
Speaker 3: night here.
Speaker 2: You mentioned you anticipated my first question, So how many
Speaker 2: folks from Massachusetts are down there and how many folks
Speaker 2: were working throughout the day lobbying legislators.
Speaker 3: Well, in Massachusetts we had fifteen volunteers representing all nine
Speaker 3: districts very proudly meeting with our federal lawmakers. But we
Speaker 3: had over seven hundred danas all across the country and
Speaker 3: from Puerto Rico and Guam and Washington, d C. Meeting
Speaker 3: with lawmakers. Pretty much every member of Congress was met with.
Speaker 3: Today we have over four hundred and seventy meetings amongst
Speaker 3: all the volunteers. So we certainly had a strong showing
Speaker 3: in Massachusetts, but really it was so wonderful to come
Speaker 3: together with all volunteers across the country.
Speaker 2: So obviously, you know, cancer is a horrific disease that
Speaker 2: has touched properly every family in America in some form
Speaker 2: of fashion, in some cases on multiple occasions. What is
Speaker 2: the goal to be accomplished today. Is I understand that
Speaker 2: the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network wants more cancer
Speaker 2: screenings of various types of cancer available, particularly to Americans
Speaker 2: sixty five and older.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's exactly right. So we were pretty clear with
Speaker 3: two apps today to our federal lawmakers. The first would
Speaker 3: be to really receive their support for the highest amount
Speaker 3: of funding possible for the NIH and the NCI. That
Speaker 3: is where the research and prevention FOLK programs come from.
Speaker 3: That are the reasons so many of us cancer survivors
Speaker 3: are still here today. So that was one of our
Speaker 3: first asks. And then we were also asking them to
Speaker 3: finally get across the finish line a bill that we've
Speaker 3: been working on for a long time called the Multicare
Speaker 3: I'm sorry Medicare mult Cancer Early Detection Screening Coverage app
Speaker 3: which would basically expand Medicare access to cancers based on
Speaker 3: blood tests and so they would be able to test
Speaker 3: for cancers via blood test and that would be mean
Speaker 3: earlier screening, earlier detection, which means more people would survive
Speaker 3: the disease. So we are really looking to get that
Speaker 3: bill passed across the finish line.
Speaker 2: Now those blood tests are available on today, but they're
Speaker 2: expensive and not every American can afford them. What sort
Speaker 2: of a price tag? I mean, obviously, if we could
Speaker 2: ever eradicate cancer or save some people's wives from can answer,
Speaker 2: there's no cost that that you would not be willing
Speaker 2: to bear. But what sort of price tag do you
Speaker 2: think is on what you were advocating today in Washington?
Speaker 3: Well? Currently, I mean thousands you know of dollars, and
Speaker 3: so we really need to make sure that Medica.
Speaker 2: Did we just lose her? Okay, well, let's let's see
Speaker 2: if she might be able to connect back with us again.
Speaker 2: Whenever we do these interviews and sometimes the guests are
Speaker 2: in a place where there's a lot of cell phone activity,
Speaker 2: what happened to Kate? We lost the connection. So we
Speaker 2: will just emphasize that if you are interested in any
Speaker 2: of this, which I hope you are, you can contact
Speaker 2: the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network. It's pretty simple
Speaker 2: home age Fight cancer dot org. There should be you know,
Speaker 2: more screening available. Uh, there is screening available for you know,
Speaker 2: we've we've made some progress, but we need to have
Speaker 2: more screening available because we're we lose people every day
Speaker 2: and I'm sure all of us we have Kate back. Okay, great,
Speaker 2: I vamped a little bit. Kate. We got you back here.
Speaker 2: We lost a couple of minutes or so. I've just
Speaker 2: plugged the website Fight cancer dot org. Give me an
Speaker 2: idea what we're talking about just in terms of this
Speaker 2: cannot be a big ticket item. Congress deals with trillions
Speaker 2: of dollars billions of dollars. Is there a number that
Speaker 2: we're that you can associate this with or no?
Speaker 3: In terms of the cost of.
Speaker 2: The Eh, it's all in. If if today everything that
Speaker 2: you folks are advocating and suggesting, if it was all in,
Speaker 2: what are we talking about billions? I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 2: it's billions of dollars, but how many billions of dollars
Speaker 2: I assume it's going to be in terms of the
Speaker 2: federal budget of four point seven trillion, It's going to
Speaker 2: be a fraction of a fraction.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, So we're asking for fifty one billion dollars
Speaker 3: for the National Institute of Health, including seven point nine
Speaker 3: billion dollars for cancer research at the NCI. And we're
Speaker 3: also asking for two hundred and seventy two million dollars
Speaker 3: for the Centers for Disease Control and prevention program in
Speaker 3: cancer programs, including two hundred and thirty million dollars for
Speaker 3: the National Breast in Cervical Cancer Early Detection Program. So
Speaker 3: we're certainly talking big numbers here.
Speaker 2: But okay, now, is that is that about shit? Is
Speaker 2: that fifty one billion all in or is it fifty
Speaker 2: one billion plus those few other billion you threw in
Speaker 2: which will probably get you up around sixty billion.
Speaker 3: The fifty one billion is all in for the NIH
Speaker 3: and the NCI, and then the four hundred and seventy
Speaker 3: two million for the CDC cancer programs are a separate ask.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, those expenses, those expenditures are the sort of
Speaker 2: expenditures that government should be looking at. Did you get
Speaker 2: a sense today that again not that you talked to
Speaker 2: all five hundred and thirty five members of Congress, but
Speaker 2: did you get a sense today that you're making some
Speaker 2: progress here?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and especially in Massachusetts. I mean, look, at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, in Massachusetts, we have, you know,
Speaker 3: the hub of research and innovation, especially in the cancer space.
Speaker 3: So our Massachusetts lawmakers were certainly on board to make
Speaker 3: sure that the funding is there to make sure that
Speaker 3: we are saving lives. We're preventing people from you know,
Speaker 3: having to go through really expensive treatments as well. So yeah,
Speaker 3: we were feeling that there is a movement, and the
Speaker 3: needles certainly got pushed today a bit with us meeting
Speaker 3: with them and sharing our stories as to why we
Speaker 3: really need to get this funding through else.
Speaker 2: Well, Kate, congratulations on the effort, and we wish you
Speaker 2: all the best of luck because you're down there advocating
Speaker 2: really for all of us. The website that I just
Speaker 2: gave before, i'd like to give one more time Fight
Speaker 2: cancer dot org and hope you have a safe trip home.
Speaker 2: And congratulations on you being a survivor of a horrific
Speaker 2: form of cancer. Thanks so much for your courage. Appreciate it. Kate, Well,
Speaker 2: you're more than welcome give you a voice anytime of
Speaker 2: the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network. We get back.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about insomnia, Insomnia in America and
Speaker 2: what keeps Americans up at night. It might not be
Speaker 2: what you think. We're gonna be talking with Julia Forbes
Speaker 2: of the US News. She's the sleep editor. I always
Speaker 2: want to say US News and World Report, but it's
Speaker 2: I guess it's now formerly the US News, and she's
Speaker 2: the US News sleep editor. Back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 4: Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
Speaker 4: Nightside Studios on DOBBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, all of us, of course, occasionally occasionally have
Speaker 2: trouble falling asleep. I mean that's just normal. However, there's
Speaker 2: a new survey that reveals the worries that keep most Americans,
Speaker 2: or many Americans, I should say, up at night with us.
Speaker 2: Now is Julia Forbes of US News, but it is
Speaker 2: still US News and World Report. She's the sleep editor. Julia,
Speaker 2: you're the first sleep editor. I've worked with some sleepy editors,
Speaker 2: but I've never interviewed a sleep editor before. How are
Speaker 2: you tonight?
Speaker 5: I'm good.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much for having me on.
Speaker 2: Okay, I hope you didn't take that comment personally. I
Speaker 2: was intended as a compliment. What are the big worries
Speaker 2: that are keeping all of us? Well, not all of us?
Speaker 2: I sleep like a like a log. I fall asleep
Speaker 2: pretty quickly and I'm gone for the night. But those
Speaker 2: who are not sleeping, what is keeping them up at night?
Speaker 6: Well, first, you're going to have to impart some of
Speaker 6: your wisdom and sleep secrets to all of us. Because
Speaker 6: actually we found in our survey that twenty two percent
Speaker 6: of Americans we reported this year or never report wake
Speaker 6: up feeling well arrested. So you must be doing something
Speaker 6: that we need to catch on.
Speaker 1: So I think it all on.
Speaker 2: I think it's clean living and getting into the gym
Speaker 2: and getting out and breathing fresh air. I think, seriously, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of tied to the chair for four hours
Speaker 2: at night on my talk show, but during the day,
Speaker 2: I pretty much do what I want, go where I want,
Speaker 2: And of course I got a prep for the talk show. Now, no, no,
Speaker 2: I finish at midnight. All kidding aside, I might do
Speaker 2: a crossword puzzle. That's my secret. Do a crossword puzzle,
Speaker 2: maybe catch a late game somewhere on the West Coast,
Speaker 2: a couple of innings of baseball or a little bit
Speaker 2: of basketball or hockey. At the bitch of time, I'm
Speaker 2: ready to snooze. It's as simple as that.
Speaker 6: That's great. We'll circle back to the importance of sleep
Speaker 6: routine later on in our conversation. But to answer your question, so,
Speaker 6: the number one top worry amongst our respondents this year
Speaker 6: was the cost of living. And actually we've been doing
Speaker 6: this poll for a few years now, since twenty twenty two,
Speaker 6: and have had the opportunity to survey thousands of Americans,
Speaker 6: and believe it or not, since twenty twenty two, this
Speaker 6: remains the number one concern a month. Data that we've
Speaker 6: gotten back is the cost of living just increasing year
Speaker 6: every year.
Speaker 2: Everything's been going up. With that, We've had a lot
Speaker 2: of inflation. I can understand that absolutely absolutely. What's number two.
Speaker 6: Number two for this year is gun violence in America
Speaker 6: and that is followed also by the twenty twenty four
Speaker 6: presidential election. Number four we found the four inside is
Speaker 6: climate change. So very heavy topics that of course keep
Speaker 6: people up at night. But I'm happy to impart some
Speaker 6: wisdom on how we can settle down, wind down, and
Speaker 6: ultimately start sleeping better.
Speaker 2: It's here. Well look, I'm all ears.
Speaker 6: Okay, great, I'm glad because usually I can talk for
Speaker 6: hours about sleep and mattresses. So here we go. So
Speaker 6: I want to talk about the importance of sleep routine,
Speaker 6: which you just talked about. It's so important not to
Speaker 6: look at a screen than an hour out before bedtime.
Speaker 6: And I know that you said you like your late
Speaker 6: Next show and that worked for you. But we have
Speaker 6: something called circadian rhythm. It's like an internal thought going
Speaker 6: on in your body, and it responds to daylight. So
Speaker 6: believe it or not, there's something called blue light that's
Speaker 6: being emitted from devices. So if you're just scrolling through
Speaker 6: social media, some would call it doom scrolling, hence why
Speaker 6: we may be stressed late at night. But if you're
Speaker 6: looking at your device, maybe reading the book, if you're
Speaker 6: getting some of that blue light and it's telling your brain, oops,
Speaker 6: it's not time to go to stika. It's still daylight,
Speaker 6: it's still time to get things done.
Speaker 2: So that's rhythm, right. I thought circadian rhythm was a
Speaker 2: band from the late seventies. Now I know what it
Speaker 2: really is. Go ahead.
Speaker 6: I mean, honestly, it could be both.
Speaker 5: I'll check, but.
Speaker 6: You never know. I mean, anything's possible. But what I
Speaker 6: would encourage listeners to do is number one, the most
Speaker 6: important thing to do is set a recurring bedtime. The
Speaker 6: number one bad sleep habit that is actually third year
Speaker 6: running reporters for this year is people said that going
Speaker 6: to bed at different times each night was really messing
Speaker 6: with their overall sleep health and sleep schedule. And that's
Speaker 6: been the case for the past two years with our surveys.
Speaker 6: So come on, gang, we can do it. We're gonna
Speaker 6: get routine down, So go ahead, do your best, set
Speaker 6: a time and try and stick with that time every
Speaker 6: single night, because well, and behold, your brain is gonna
Speaker 6: start recognizing, Hey, I should start winding down to ten
Speaker 6: o'clock PM. Wouldn't it be nice? But ten o'clock PM
Speaker 6: is when I'd like to start, you know, trying to
Speaker 6: go ahead and start falling asleep. Number two for this
Speaker 6: year and twenty twenty three bad habit was screen time
Speaker 6: in bed. So, like I said, go ahead and put
Speaker 6: that device away at least an hour before bed. And
Speaker 6: that way you're like not doing skull and like I said,
Speaker 6: you're focused on getting your sleep routine down and hitting
Speaker 6: the hay as they say.
Speaker 2: Let me just ask one point here, which I think
Speaker 2: is important for me. Yeah, and that is I get
Speaker 2: the idea that if you're sitting in front of the
Speaker 2: computer or you're sitting in front of a TV, it
Speaker 2: impacts you. However, if you listen to the radio night
Speaker 2: side you go to bed at ten o'clock, that will
Speaker 2: probably soothe your nerves just by sitting there in the dark,
Speaker 2: listening to the radio, and you'll drift off to sleepland right.
Speaker 6: I've heard plenty of people who listen to podcasts, audio books.
Speaker 6: I would just caution whether I prefer to read a
Speaker 6: book before falling asleep, just make sure it's not a
Speaker 6: whore or a thriller or anything that's going to get
Speaker 6: your adrenaline going or in the case of our survey,
Speaker 6: your stress levels rising. Right, you want to be relaxed,
Speaker 6: so it's something that's soothing, relaxing, and who's to say,
Speaker 6: find part of the very team that works for you.
Speaker 6: And if you ever have big concerns like hey, insomnia,
Speaker 6: I think I might have it, or sleep apnia, this
Speaker 6: is really what's keeping up me up that night, talk
Speaker 6: to your doctor and they'll be able to guide you
Speaker 6: through the process of, you know, really establishing a healthy
Speaker 6: sleeper team. But in terms of the day to day
Speaker 6: that we can all achieve. Yeah, I looked at.
Speaker 2: The materials that you sent, and one of the things
Speaker 2: that I didn't see there, which I thought I would
Speaker 2: have seen, was problems at work, either people who were
Speaker 2: not getting along with their bosses or who felt that
Speaker 2: their job was a dead end, and they weren't going anywhere. Well,
Speaker 2: they were afraid that their company might be going out
Speaker 2: of business and getting shipped overseas. So job loss, surprisingly
Speaker 2: to me, was not a topic that kept people awake
Speaker 2: at night. Does that surprise you or no.
Speaker 6: Well, it could pop up in our data, but from
Speaker 6: what we gathered did the five topics that I've presented
Speaker 6: to you were the most prevalent. So it's not to
Speaker 6: say that they didn't pop up on our radar. It's
Speaker 6: just majority factored into these five. So who knows. It
Speaker 6: could be something for hopefully not, but you know, next
Speaker 6: year we'll just keep a pulse on it and be
Speaker 6: sure to report back. But as always, you know, try
Speaker 6: and wind down.
Speaker 2: You know, is this sleep survey? Is that done by
Speaker 2: US News and World Report or are you reporting on
Speaker 2: a sleep survey that survey that's been done by some
Speaker 2: form of sleep organization.
Speaker 6: So it's done by us, it's done by our organization.
Speaker 6: We use a third party survey tool of course, go
Speaker 6: ahead and pull thousands of Americans, get a wide data
Speaker 6: samples so we can report back to readers. And it's
Speaker 6: something unique that really informs readers about what's going on
Speaker 6: and also in a way brings everyone together because we're
Speaker 6: all going to experience sleeplessness and sleep is so important
Speaker 6: for our health, so we can all come together, share tips,
Speaker 6: tricks and vice versa, because it's universal. At the end
Speaker 6: of the day, everyone needs to wind down and relax,
Speaker 6: and man, I wish we can all get ten hours.
Speaker 6: So we're working towards it.
Speaker 5: Guys, we'll get it, but oh my god, better.
Speaker 2: Once again, Julia anticipated my final question, and that is
Speaker 2: growing up, you always told eight hours of sleep, and
Speaker 2: you know, I used to think, you know, eight is great,
Speaker 2: nine is fine, and eleven is heaven on weekends. What
Speaker 2: is does the amount of sleep you need begin to
Speaker 2: very at different times in your life? Obviously, new parents
Speaker 2: with newborns don't get a lot of good night's sleep,
Speaker 2: we understand that. But do older folks, people who are
Speaker 2: on the wrong side of fifty, that they need less
Speaker 2: sleep or more sleep than people who are, you know,
Speaker 2: on the what I call the right side of fifty.
Speaker 6: That's a great question, and it's actually one that we
Speaker 6: cover in my article. So essentially, anywhere from if you're
Speaker 6: eighteen to sixty, minimum of seven hours as recommended by
Speaker 6: the CDC. But let's caveat that. Maybe you have some
Speaker 6: health concerns, or you're in recovering, maybe you had a
Speaker 6: long race or just athletic activity. There are some nuances
Speaker 6: that might require you to get more sleep. But if
Speaker 6: you're above sixty five seventy hours max. You should be
Speaker 6: just fine. So again, seven hours minimum is usually baseline,
Speaker 6: and then it can go up from there depending on
Speaker 6: what you need.
Speaker 2: Right, So what you're saying is there is a point
Speaker 2: in time as folks get a little older, they don't
Speaker 2: need as much sleep on average. I know we're talking
Speaker 2: average here, right, so you know people don't have to
Speaker 2: take these numbers literally. But as you move, you know
Speaker 2: into retirement, you don't need the eight hours as what
Speaker 2: you might have needed in your twenties. Very interesting subject, Julia, really,
Speaker 2: and you've been a great guest and you've been fun
Speaker 2: to talk to, which which which for me is what
Speaker 2: makes a great guest, the great information and when they're fun.
Speaker 2: So thanks for joining us and we'll have you back.
Speaker 2: I'd love to you back anytime.
Speaker 6: Okay, thank you so much for having me on.
Speaker 5: It's been to blast all.
Speaker 2: Right, sweet dreams great. Thanks Julian again, if you ever
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Speaker 2: We got the newscast coming at you. Coming up on
Speaker 2: the other side, we have kind of a shocking report.
Speaker 2: This one says that there's a twenty percent hike, twenty
Speaker 2: percent increase in calls for kids at poison control centers
Speaker 2: for kids chugging energy drinks. This is somewhat something I
Speaker 2: really want to talk about. We're going to be talking
Speaker 2: with our guest, who's a registered dietitian nutritionist, right after
Speaker 2: the news at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WZ Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio.
Speaker 2: I want to welcome Uma Kalin's who's a registered dietitian
Speaker 2: and also a nutritionist, which means she knows a lot
Speaker 2: about food, amongst other things. She is with a group
Speaker 2: called Well Rooted Health and Nutrition. And I guess poison
Speaker 2: control centers. Poison control centers are reporting a shocking twenty
Speaker 2: percent hike in calls for kids chucking energy drinks. Uma, Uma,
Speaker 2: First of all, welcome to nightside. And when they say
Speaker 2: a twenty percent hike in calls for kids, how are
Speaker 2: we defining kids? Little kids, big kids? What's what's thet
Speaker 2: of the age range we're talking here?
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I mean, really, caffeine isn't recommended for kids
Speaker 7: at all younger than twelve years old. So when we
Speaker 7: see those statistics, it's definitely speaking to kids who are
Speaker 7: younger than twelve years old. Of course they're included in
Speaker 7: that two twelve to fifteen eighteen.
Speaker 5: I think it just.
Speaker 7: Really varies, but all in all, more younger kids, kids
Speaker 7: in ages six, eight, nine, even, we're starting to see
Speaker 7: more cases. Yeah, so it's definitely alarming.
Speaker 2: So I think most of us when we think about
Speaker 2: the energy drinks, you see them in stores, and you
Speaker 2: know there's some of them that everybody knows about. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to mention any of their names. First of all,
Speaker 2: why are kids drinking energy? I mean, what's the kick here?
Speaker 7: I really think it's just the increase in marketing. It's
Speaker 7: very appealing, even in gaming communities. If you think about that,
Speaker 7: it's definitely a thing. Hey, let's stay alert and be
Speaker 7: able to continue to play these games. The list goes
Speaker 7: on and on, just more availability being in the household
Speaker 7: or just readily available in stores. Sometimes kids will just
Speaker 7: grab them and take a sip, not thinking it's a
Speaker 7: big deal, but not knowing that even what we considered
Speaker 7: to be a lesser amount as adults is a high, high,
Speaker 7: non safe amount for kids.
Speaker 2: So with all of this stuff going on, generations of
Speaker 2: kids have grown up without energy drinks. We didn't have
Speaker 2: energy drinks when I was a kid. I mean, if
Speaker 2: you had a Pepsi or a coke, I guess that's
Speaker 2: an energy drink of some sort, but nothing like what's
Speaker 2: on the market today. What's the long term implications for
Speaker 2: young people today who are again using these They're going
Speaker 2: to continue to use these drinks as they move into
Speaker 2: their twenties and get their first job, and they hooked
Speaker 2: for this stuff. For us, I assume some of them
Speaker 2: are hooked for life.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I mean with any type of caffeine source, we develop
Speaker 7: a tolerance, and typically people want higher amounts. You think
Speaker 7: about coffee coffee drinkers, it's usually let's have a cup
Speaker 7: to start the day morning, a cup at noon, and
Speaker 7: so the same thing definitely can apply with these other
Speaker 7: sources of caffeine in the form of energy drinks. And
Speaker 7: that's actually a really great point that you bring up.
Speaker 7: I think it's going to be really interesting just to
Speaker 7: kind of see how this plays out throughout their adulthood
Speaker 7: as they continue to get older.
Speaker 2: When did energy drinks become so popular that we now
Speaker 2: are are concerned. I'm assuming that you have been thinking
Speaker 2: about energy drinks before twenty twenty.
Speaker 5: Four, Oh for sure.
Speaker 7: I mean I can even recall when I was in
Speaker 7: high school. I think the energy drinks that were really
Speaker 7: popular back then, which is many years ago, was Red
Speaker 7: Bull Monster. Those are probably the two big ones that
Speaker 7: were real popular. I even remember seeing a Red Bull
Speaker 7: truck come to our high school and pass them out
Speaker 7: for free to the students. I basically remember that.
Speaker 2: Well, remember they used to pass out cigarettes for free
Speaker 2: in the streets.
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, So those are the ones that I remember,
Speaker 7: but I think over the years it's just been more
Speaker 7: and more different ones that have come on the market.
Speaker 2: So it was now red Bull still around, I assume
Speaker 2: in Monster so for sure. Okay, so they just maybe
Speaker 2: don't have as much of the market, but it's a
Speaker 2: huge What are the what did the whole numbers say?
Speaker 2: What percentage of teenage kids? And when I do these interviews,
Speaker 2: I ask questions that I think my audience wants to answer,
Speaker 2: and I don't necessarily clear these questions with my guest.
Speaker 2: What percentage of kids, let's call them teenagers seriously dabbling
Speaker 2: it with these sorts of energy drinks? How high a percentages?
Speaker 2: And I'm sure there's a percentage which you're telling how
Speaker 2: many of them are smoke in marijuana? How many of
Speaker 2: them have done this that or the other thing. Is
Speaker 2: there a reliable number as to how many of them,
Speaker 2: what percentage of site just teens or whatever, are using
Speaker 2: these energy drinks?
Speaker 7: Well, well, I don't have those exact statistics in front
Speaker 7: of me. What I can definitely say is that it
Speaker 7: is incredibly popular teenagers, especially for thinking, you know, high
Speaker 7: school driving age. They have the ability to go to
Speaker 7: a convenience store, They're able to go off campus oftentimes
Speaker 7: and get lunch and get these different types of options.
Speaker 7: And so with them being so readily available just about everywhere,
Speaker 7: I can definitely say that it is a very very
Speaker 7: high percentage. That specific percentage, I don't know just quite
Speaker 7: at this time.
Speaker 2: I have different states in an effort to maybe dissuade
Speaker 2: kids from dabbling with these energy drinks a getting hooked
Speaker 2: in the first place. Are there deposits? You know? When
Speaker 2: I buy a you know, a case of pepsi light,
Speaker 2: you know, diet pepsi. I was going to say course life,
Speaker 2: but let's keep it diet Pepsi. I have to pay
Speaker 2: a nickel here in Massachusetts and Nikola can as a deposit.
Speaker 2: And if I don't bring this, it's you know, it's yeah.
Speaker 2: It was very popular innovative in the nineteen eighties because
Speaker 2: we were people seeing cans strewn across the landscape, Red
Speaker 2: Bull and Monster in these energy drinks. They do they
Speaker 2: have to pay a deposit on their those containers or
Speaker 2: in most in most states or do you.
Speaker 5: Know, I'm not quite ture on that answer.
Speaker 7: I know in my own state that's definitely not the case.
Speaker 7: I do think that that would vary vice from state
Speaker 7: to state, but that would be really really interesting, just
Speaker 7: because I mean, I could even distinctly remember Jess. A
Speaker 7: couple of weeks ago, I spoke to a group of
Speaker 7: high school athletes and it was a combination of freshmen
Speaker 7: all the way through seniors. And in this presentation there,
Speaker 7: I literally just did a quick glance and at least
Speaker 7: seven or eight of them had an energy drink sitting
Speaker 7: on their desk. So I know that in class, in class,
Speaker 7: that was almost like teenager's version of coffee. They prefer
Speaker 7: that it tastes good, that these different types of energy
Speaker 7: drinks have such a huge variety of appealing flavors and
Speaker 7: these different health claims and benefits. It's not just energy
Speaker 7: boost but it's okay, it's got vitamins, it's got minerals,
Speaker 7: and so these other flashity, flashy marketing terms that can
Speaker 7: very well draw in these younger kids, these teenagers. So
Speaker 7: it's really interesting how much it's become so popular. And
Speaker 7: I feel like just about every time I go to
Speaker 7: the store, at least on a monthly basis, I see
Speaker 7: a new variation of an energy drink that's on the market.
Speaker 5: So it's definitely competitive.
Speaker 2: Here's a tough question. It's not intended to discourage you,
Speaker 2: but are you finding a losing battle?
Speaker 7: You know, that's a really great question. I don't think so.
Speaker 7: I feel like it provides a huge opportunity for awareness
Speaker 7: and education. So specifically, to give you an example, in
Speaker 7: that classroom, we were specifically talking about fueling for performance
Speaker 7: and sport and how as opposed to relying on caffeine,
Speaker 7: they really would benefit from being more focused on a
Speaker 7: balanced diet, fueling their body with healthy carbohydrates and really
Speaker 7: just giving them that knowledge that they can apply and understand.
Speaker 7: So awareness is really important for not only the kids,
Speaker 7: but the parents so that they understand, Okay, we don't
Speaker 7: need to be doing this. We potentially are drinking too
Speaker 7: much of these energy drinks and leaving them in the house. Therefore,
Speaker 7: our teenagers and kids have access to it and think
Speaker 7: it's okay, and it can be this positive domino fact
Speaker 7: if that education and awareness is more of a more
Speaker 7: of a push.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never I drink a lot of pepsi on weekends,
Speaker 2: I have. You know, my drink of choice is coarse light.
Speaker 2: But energy drinks have no appeal to me, I feel
Speaker 2: I have enough energy about energy.
Speaker 5: Drinks, right, that's great segment.
Speaker 2: I just did a segment last My last guest was
Speaker 2: about Americans, uh, not being able to sleep well at night.
Speaker 2: I assume that there's an adverse impact on kids or
Speaker 2: anyone who's having energy drinks during the week, never mind
Speaker 2: what it's going to do to their hot palpitations right around.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, absolutely, those are major concerns. And the and the
Speaker 7: kind of confusing part about it is is that sometimes
Speaker 7: depending on how young the child is, they may not
Speaker 7: know what's going on. You know, we see kids as
Speaker 7: naturally being energetic, very full of energy, so then we
Speaker 7: add that to the mix. It could definitely be a
Speaker 7: lot of issu use that that come about the consumption
Speaker 7: of routine energy drink drinking energy drink. So sleep is
Speaker 7: definitely concerned because that's going to affect how they function
Speaker 7: in class, their mood in general. And so yeah, there's
Speaker 7: a lot of things that could definitely go wrong in
Speaker 7: the long run.
Speaker 2: But well, you've been a great guest, Oma Collins, thank
Speaker 2: you for your time. Is there a website that we
Speaker 2: can send there, Yes, you can take we can go
Speaker 2: to and get more information let's have it.
Speaker 7: Yes, it's well rooted so r O O T as
Speaker 7: a tom E D as a dog H isn't haring
Speaker 7: and as a Nancy dot com so well rooted HN
Speaker 7: dot com.
Speaker 2: Okay, which stands for health and nutrition health and also
Speaker 2: the word so well rooted HN dot com. Great. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed my station. Uh. And I'm a huge
Speaker 2: proponent of what you're trying to do and make people
Speaker 2: aware because I got to tell you this is these
Speaker 2: are not good habits to develop.
Speaker 7: It's a civilis definitely, and I appreciate your support. We're
Speaker 7: doing what we can for sure.
Speaker 2: Doing great well. Thank you, Uma Collins. We'll be back
Speaker 2: on Nightside and I'm going to ask the question and
Speaker 2: I know what your answer is, and I think the
Speaker 2: answer will be a little surprising. There's a survey where
Speaker 2: which is the rudest city in the United States? No,
Speaker 2: Boston is not number one. Trust me on that. We're
Speaker 2: going to talk with an etiquette expert and a best
Speaker 2: selling author, keynote speaker who runs a group called Show
Speaker 2: Up Well Consulting. Her name is Jan Goss. Talk with
Speaker 2: her on the other side of this break on Nightside.
Speaker 4: Now back to Dan ray Mine from the Window World
Speaker 4: Nightside Studios on w b Z to news Radio.
Speaker 2: We're about to talk about the rudest cities in America. Now,
Speaker 2: I know this is a generalization, but it's always interesting
Speaker 2: with us. Is Jan Goss? Jane, Welcome to Nightside. How
Speaker 2: are you?
Speaker 5: Thank you? Dan? I'm great. We're going from Boston to
Speaker 5: Austin tonight.
Speaker 2: Oh you're in Austin. Well that's great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm in the Austin area.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, absolutely, Willie Nelson's hometown.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, that's I am not far from him at all.
Speaker 2: Well, say hello to Willie when you see him.
Speaker 5: Okay, I will do it sometimes I do.
Speaker 2: He's still going strong. Well, Austin is not on the
Speaker 2: list of the rude cities, but bost Thank god.
Speaker 5: I did check, Dan, I checked, No, I did it.
Speaker 2: I like it. I like it. So we're not number one.
Speaker 2: This is not something you want to be number one
Speaker 2: in my six How first, we're number six. The rudest
Speaker 2: city right now, according to this is Miami, followed by Philadelphia, Tampa,
Speaker 2: which I wouldn't have expected, Louisville, Kentucky, which I definitely
Speaker 2: would have expected, Oakland, and then Boston. How did they decide,
Speaker 2: how did they do this? How is it done scientifically?
Speaker 2: Or is this you know, kind of a fun little
Speaker 2: exercise every couple of years.
Speaker 5: Well, I wasn't part of that part I of the poll,
Speaker 5: and I read.
Speaker 2: The sad news, is what you're telling me?
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, exactly, I read. I did read the report,
Speaker 5: and they did explain how they got it. It is
Speaker 5: subjective because it's a you know, on a scale of
Speaker 5: one to ten, how do you write? But it was
Speaker 5: pretty comprehensive. But I do think, whether your city was
Speaker 5: on there or not, that we could all use a
Speaker 5: great lesson in protocol.
Speaker 2: Well, you're an adequate expert, So tell us some of
Speaker 2: the things that maybe we could fix, not only here
Speaker 2: in Boston, but we're hearing a lot, we're heard in
Speaker 2: a lot of these cities. Actually, what can we do
Speaker 2: uh to uh? I'm I'm a Bostonian, I'm a life Bostonian,
Speaker 2: and I got to tell you, when I meet people
Speaker 2: from other parts of the country, I really am delighted
Speaker 2: and I'm welcoming, and I really have fun talking to
Speaker 2: people from other cities. I really mean that. You know,
Speaker 2: we're supposedly cold and puritanical and I just don't think
Speaker 2: that's really Boston. But tell us what we can do
Speaker 2: to shed this image of being a rude city.
Speaker 5: Well, we need more people like you, Dan, That's the
Speaker 5: thing is. And I'm a firm believer. I do listen
Speaker 5: to statistics, I listen to other people's thoughts, but I
Speaker 5: travel and I'm in different cities, and I'm still a
Speaker 5: firm believer that most people are good, most people are kind,
Speaker 5: Most people care about other people. We just hear about
Speaker 5: the ones that aren't because they're so obnoxious perception.
Speaker 2: I love the people you're sitting in the traffic light
Speaker 2: and they have the music on their radio tuned up, blasting,
Speaker 2: and the windows are rolled down. I'm actually dak Raib
Speaker 2: who said, do you like the music? And he's loved
Speaker 2: the music. I said, why'd you roll your windows up
Speaker 2: so you can enjoy it even more?
Speaker 5: Exactly? Well, and I think you hit the nail on
Speaker 5: the head. The number one issue, Dan, is awareness. It's
Speaker 5: raising awareness. People are so self consumed that they are
Speaker 5: unaware of how their behavior affects other people around them.
Speaker 5: You know, we just get caught up in our own world,
Speaker 5: in our own minds, And of course then you throw
Speaker 5: in the electronic devices, and you know it really compounds
Speaker 5: the problem.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's no question, and I know that that I
Speaker 8: feel that, you know like you do that most Americans
Speaker 8: are really good people, you know, put aside the people
Speaker 8: who are going to try to rob you or something
Speaker 8: like that, you know, but the average American is a.
Speaker 2: Good person and they will lend a hand. I mean,
Speaker 2: I can remember when I lived in Boston and one
Speaker 2: day they had a parade in Boston of a group
Speaker 2: that dealt with a hospital here, and there was one
Speaker 2: gentleman that really had The older gentleman had to go
Speaker 2: to the bathroom and I said, well, you come up
Speaker 2: in my condominium and you can use the bathroom.
Speaker 5: I mean right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: When I lived in downtown Boston, someone would stop me
Speaker 2: and ask me for directions. In Boston is a confusing city.
Speaker 2: If I was out just for say a walk, which
Speaker 2: I often was, I'd say, you know what instead of
Speaker 2: me telling you, let me jump in your cry and
Speaker 2: I'll show you, and they would let they would you
Speaker 2: drive them? I mean, you drive with them and get
Speaker 2: them to where they want And they say, what do
Speaker 2: you want to drive? No, you'll never find your way
Speaker 2: back and walk back. Don't worry about it. Yeah, why not?
Speaker 5: You know, Dan, I know that firsthand experience because you
Speaker 5: don't know this about me. But I started school. I'm
Speaker 5: talking kindergarten, first grade in Boston and as a little child. Yes,
Speaker 5: I remember one day I got lost walking home from
Speaker 5: school and a kind of course, now i'd be scared
Speaker 5: to death to tell my children and the grandchildren to
Speaker 5: get in the car with anybody. But you know, here
Speaker 5: I was in the Boston area and someone helped me
Speaker 5: find my mom and they were so kind, and I
Speaker 5: just I do believe there's kindness all around us. But
Speaker 5: we can do some things to shift this.
Speaker 2: Amount of time. Here's you. But I got to ask,
Speaker 2: what time did you grow up at? What part of Boston?
Speaker 5: I was in Natick?
Speaker 2: Oh, I know Natick. We lived in Sherlin for many years.
Speaker 5: Sure, absolutely, Maybe that's where my dad taught it BEU
Speaker 5: for a while. Yes, up there.
Speaker 2: Really, that's my law school. That's where I graduated from
Speaker 2: law school. Wow, yeah, we get there's these connections here. Jen. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: I am flat out of time, but I love to
Speaker 2: have you again because I love your enthusiasm. I really
Speaker 2: love your enthusiasm. That's that's so important in a guest.
Speaker 2: And how can folks get in touch with you, cook,
Speaker 2: and you're an etquin expert, how can they how can
Speaker 2: they maybe talk to you directly?
Speaker 5: Come see me at show upwell dot com. Don't just
Speaker 5: show up in life. We want to show up well, Dan.
Speaker 2: I love it, Jan, I really do. You sound like
Speaker 2: a great guest and a great human being. And I
Speaker 2: think you learned well growing up in Boston. Thanks so much.
Speaker 2: I love that. Okay, we'll have you, bet I would
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 5: Be aware. There we go.
Speaker 2: You bet you? We bet you? All right, we come
Speaker 2: back on to talk with John Deaton. He's the Republican
Speaker 2: candidate for the United States Senate running against Elizabeth Warren.
Speaker 2: We invited Senator Warren to join us tonight. I'll let
Speaker 2: you know what her reply was right after the nine
Speaker 2: o'clock news, right after I introduced you to John Dee
Speaker 2: and we would be back right after the night