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Speaker 1: the biggest event on the calendar on Saturday, but enough
Speaker 1: about Eurovision is of course the FA Cup final. So
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Speaker 1: So we will be talking the FA Cup, of course,
Speaker 1: and we will have our full playoff episode to come
Speaker 1: on Monday when we know the finalist.
Speaker 2: What say it?
Speaker 1: Say the word magic of the Cup? Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 1: I was meant to say something. We'll discuss the magic
Speaker 1: of the Cup and what a magical campaign. This has
Speaker 1: been warm and fuzzy inside now so magical. Very shortly,
Speaker 1: we will have the full playoff episode on Monday, because
Speaker 1: we will know the finalists on Monday, we will look
Speaker 1: ahead to those three games, picking out our best bets,
Speaker 1: selections and stuff like that, before we do quick recap
Speaker 1: on what we've seen so far. It's been a really,
Speaker 1: really good playoffs. It usually never disappoints sheffields like Bristol
Speaker 1: City from the neutral's perspective, that was dead and buried,
Speaker 1: but the Blades absolutely superb in a six nil aggregate
Speaker 1: win three nil either side. We are recording on Thursday,
Speaker 1: so we've also had Sunderland Coventry which was we just say,
Speaker 1: by the way, seconds away from penalty.
Speaker 3: Anyone who listens to this podcast will know that Tom
Speaker 3: and myself are not great Frank Lampard fans. And Tom
Speaker 3: beat me to the anti Frank Lampard gift post in
Speaker 3: the WhatsApp chat by milliseconds, literally milliseconds.
Speaker 1: It was absolutely incredible.
Speaker 3: He said something like, oh my god, he's in tears.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 1: He was holding back the I'm just disappointed for them,
Speaker 1: you know, and the one mine I need, well, I've
Speaker 1: won everything, so I'm fine. I've just got it for
Speaker 1: them more than anything. When he said that, I actually
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it.
Speaker 4: He literally said, well, I've had loaded success in my career,
Speaker 4: so it probably won't hit me as hard. But for
Speaker 4: them then, I mean, this is big. He's basically this
Speaker 4: is the biggest nights in their lives. For me, you know,
Speaker 4: it's just, you know, one of the championships. I'm not
Speaker 4: really that asked the office, isn't it where he goes?
Speaker 4: Did do you have your wages come through this morning?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: A few? You're all right? So why have I got
Speaker 1: Coventry lads coming in complaining that they've never won anything?
Speaker 1: He needs remarkable, some sort of.
Speaker 4: Training course about how he comes across, I think, because
Speaker 4: by all Accountcy.
Speaker 1: Is actually a good bloke, but he's not good at
Speaker 1: giving interviews. Don't say the thing that you really think.
Speaker 4: Just say what you need to say to not seem
Speaker 4: like you're coming across like a twap.
Speaker 1: If you have avoided this, I don't know how you've
Speaker 1: done it. But some land with well, not literally, because
Speaker 1: they did allow, for some reason Coventry to kick off
Speaker 1: before blowing the full time whistle, which just seemed completely
Speaker 1: pointless the penultimate touch of the game, as both teams
Speaker 1: were preparing for penalties. You saw it down on the
Speaker 1: door out there, speaking to players, making notes and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. Some of them get corner. Enzo Lafe crosses
Speaker 1: it in and Dan Ballard with the most unorthodox header ever,
Speaker 1: completely misstimes the jump, kind of heads it. It's the
Speaker 1: back of his neck and then goes in to.
Speaker 3: Score as well, where you weren't sure if it was
Speaker 3: in or not. You had Ben for you and crossbar
Speaker 3: and it came down. It didn't hit any net or anything.
Speaker 2: Literally, Yeah, but I was like that.
Speaker 1: And then you had the period of Ben Wilson, the
Speaker 1: Coventry goalkeeper, and that's like the moment where he could
Speaker 1: look and then just couldn't was helpless just watching it
Speaker 1: in has to be up there with one of the
Speaker 1: all time playoff moments, surely. Oh yeah, it just it
Speaker 1: literally did spring. It felt like out of nowhere because
Speaker 1: by that point games just typically die down and then
Speaker 1: nobody really wants to lose as opposed to win. It
Speaker 1: will be a really memorable moment because.
Speaker 4: It's so late, last second. Basically, like you've described, he's
Speaker 4: so unbelievably contorted in the way that he gets his
Speaker 4: body and then just to add to the overall awkwardness
Speaker 4: of it, he couldn't get his shirt off. Yeah, he's
Speaker 4: trying so hard to get his shirt off to celebrate.
Speaker 1: He's one of his teammates got it off for him.
Speaker 1: He had his shoulder heavily strategy.
Speaker 4: Like this someone else just comes and like king it
Speaker 4: off him and he's obviously massive in his upper body.
Speaker 4: So it was brilliant and he was unbelievable for the
Speaker 4: two legs of the playoffs. And he's second choice. So
Speaker 4: he's come in for the playoffs because they've picked him
Speaker 4: ahead of Chris Mepham. So like fair play to him
Speaker 4: stepping up at the right time of the season. So
Speaker 4: that game was awful as well, so like he's got
Speaker 4: at that moment at the end, but the game itself
Speaker 4: was horrifically bad, which nobody will remember that in the
Speaker 4: in the history books. So it's great.
Speaker 3: I've got to deal with an entire red and white Wembley.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'd like the smart remarks of people going,
Speaker 1: I think the team in red and white stripes are
Speaker 1: gonna win? What Sheffield United then not gonna be wearing
Speaker 1: the same kit, are they about it?
Speaker 2: It would be funny though, get the ref in red
Speaker 2: and white.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's just clete mix things up.
Speaker 2: Also, we didn't touch.
Speaker 3: On this before the playoffs started, but Bristol City doing
Speaker 3: a pitching masion for getting into the playoffs? Is that
Speaker 3: worthy of actually cheering against?
Speaker 1: In my in my column for the playoffs because.
Speaker 4: The few people have done reactions to this saying, oh,
Speaker 4: well they they've not been in the playoffs for so
Speaker 4: many years and all this in the Bean mid table
Speaker 4: and blah blah blah. But too much, it's too much.
Speaker 1: I don't I've never liked it. And the playoffs full stop,
Speaker 1: you see it a lot of I mean, but it's
Speaker 1: particularly common because the highest seeded team always plays at
Speaker 1: home second right, so you get a lot of the
Speaker 1: history shows the better teams do progress. So you do
Speaker 1: get a lot of second legs where it's at home,
Speaker 1: and you get a lot of pitch invasions and people
Speaker 1: running on. And it's one thing I've never ever understood
Speaker 1: because it's a great time to celebrate, and yes we're
Speaker 1: all delighted, Yes we've done it, but it is the
Speaker 1: cliche you've you've not done it, achieved anything. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: both teams do it, so Monday night, one team does it,
Speaker 1: choosing out the other team does it. There's fifty percent
Speaker 1: of those fans have done it for no reason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was the case of I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3: I was watching it the on Soccer Saturday and the double.
Speaker 2: Checkers like, is that Bristol City. They're on the pitch
Speaker 2: at Bristol.
Speaker 1: It's even worse. Yeah, it's not even the playoffs SEVERI final,
Speaker 1: it's just.
Speaker 3: In the playoffs and then we got smash six the
Speaker 3: biggest defeat and aggregate history.
Speaker 4: Max, Isn't it The big problem for Bristol City were
Speaker 4: It's highly unlikely they weren't going to get beaten comfortably
Speaker 4: by Sheffield United just because of the I mean.
Speaker 1: It's twenty two points, the difference between literally the biggest
Speaker 1: gap in history. At the same time then the very
Speaker 1: short gap between that last day of the season and
Speaker 1: that if you've got you know, that huge emotional outlay
Speaker 1: they just got in everybody on the pitch. It's massive.
Speaker 4: I think that the two teams that have made it's
Speaker 4: the Championship playoff final, they've got a big gap. Anyway,
Speaker 4: nearly two weeks until the final, but they were actually
Speaker 4: really calm. Chef and I had new for ages. But
Speaker 4: Sundland you think how last gasp it was, but they
Speaker 4: were actually pretty There was a few more ons that
Speaker 4: go on the pitch. They kept trying to get in
Speaker 4: on all the interviews and one that was having trying
Speaker 4: to have a real go at Frank Lampard, basically trying
Speaker 4: to antagonize into a fight, which was it.
Speaker 1: You cannot comment where I was that was too far,
Speaker 1: but they were just the right level.
Speaker 4: I think back a year and when Bolton beat Barnsley
Speaker 4: they had a pitch invasion. The players were up drinking
Speaker 4: beers in the stand and you could see them. This
Speaker 4: is a bit much when you've got the final to play.
Speaker 4: And then they delivered the most flat performance when we
Speaker 4: were all like, oh yeah, Bolton will beat Oxford, They're
Speaker 4: way better than them, and they never ever got going.
Speaker 4: So it is a very careful line to tread going
Speaker 4: into the to the final.
Speaker 1: Then we've seen we weren't too much about League One
Speaker 1: because Laighton Oriente Stockport stop for Laton Orange Shoulday was
Speaker 1: last night. That is an upset Thi's being third on
Speaker 1: penalties in a game. The first leg was brilliant too too.
Speaker 1: It was one one draw on Wednesday night, but an upset.
Speaker 1: I don't think we were pretty confident. I know we
Speaker 1: bat Charlton to do it, and by the time you
Speaker 1: listen to this, Charlton maybe out of the playoffs. But
Speaker 1: I think the expectation was on risingly Charlton and probably Stockport.
Speaker 1: If they didn't lose that first leg, they'd take them
Speaker 1: back to Edgeley Park and they should win. Hasn't been
Speaker 1: the case and late in Ora absolutely riding a hot
Speaker 1: street going into Wembley.
Speaker 2: Flying, absolutely flying.
Speaker 3: I feel a bit sorry for Jim because he put
Speaker 3: up Stockport to him from behind him both legs and
Speaker 3: they went behind both times.
Speaker 1: He's even worse the first leg as well because up
Speaker 1: eighth or something.
Speaker 3: It was like nearly twenty to one in the first
Speaker 3: legs stop Port from behind. So yeah, next time, Jim,
Speaker 3: just back the opposition team back Orient, score first goal
Speaker 3: and then core quick. Yeah that's that's maybe in a
Speaker 3: Nichilles heel.
Speaker 2: That's come back to bike.
Speaker 3: Stockporks think they've conceded the first goal in the last
Speaker 3: eight nine games down in the league or something like that,
Speaker 3: so just leave themselves too much to do.
Speaker 1: You're completely right, they were. They were really unlucky.
Speaker 4: Well they were unlucky, but their equalizer was a massive
Speaker 4: deflection when it looked like they were going to lose
Speaker 4: in normal time. They should have won it in extra time.
Speaker 4: But there's only so long that he can keep getting
Speaker 4: away with conceding for so fair place Late and Orient
Speaker 4: it's a massive achievement for them. I remember when they
Speaker 4: made the playoff final in League one, Oh God, aging
Speaker 4: myself now, it'll probably almost fifteen years ago under Russell Slade,
Speaker 4: and it seemed like that was their one chance to
Speaker 4: get into the championship and then they just dropped down
Speaker 4: through the divisions after that, all the way into non league.
Speaker 4: So he kind of feels like this is going to
Speaker 4: be their chance again. If they don't get into the championship,
Speaker 4: squad probably gets picked apart. They've made some brilliant loan
Speaker 4: signings this season, they've got a fantastic manager who probably
Speaker 4: gets poached, so there's every chance it's now on.
Speaker 1: Ever for them, let's move on because I say we
Speaker 1: will talk full playoffs on Monday, because I do want
Speaker 1: to talk about Saturday's main event. It feels like I
Speaker 1: don't want to kind of have show, you know, do
Speaker 1: this old It was better in the olden days because
Speaker 1: it wasn't even like this when I was growing up,
Speaker 1: but it felt like the entire day was dedicated to
Speaker 1: the build up to the event. It was like everyone
Speaker 1: kind of stops what they're doing from nine am all
Speaker 1: the way up to the start time. It's all kind
Speaker 1: of people are watching all day on television and Saturday
Speaker 1: of course feels like it's dwindled a little bit in
Speaker 1: kind of recent times, but in a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago did quite well. Interest has peaked again and that
Speaker 1: is course at the Saint Jakob Taller Hall in Switzerland.
Speaker 1: Eurovision is on Saturday night, I mean finals, well last night, yeah,
Speaker 1: and tonight of course. Just wanted to get any if
Speaker 1: we've got any tips for Eurovision, any insight? Well, what
Speaker 1: are we back in here because presumably we're all gonna
Speaker 1: watch it?
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, Well I was listening closely this morning to
Speaker 4: the like the updates from the semifinals on Radio one
Speaker 4: on my drive in and forgotten the name of the
Speaker 4: British entrance, but they were saying that it's helped them
Speaker 4: because of performing at the semi finals.
Speaker 1: I heard this, Yes, qualification, it has.
Speaker 4: Helped them performing in these five six thousand capacity venues
Speaker 4: because people already know the words to the song, which
Speaker 4: I don't know the name of. But that's about as
Speaker 4: much as I can tell you.
Speaker 1: I don't even know remember Monday with what the hell
Speaker 1: just happened?
Speaker 4: There we go?
Speaker 1: I should have known that.
Speaker 2: I don't even know it was happening this week.
Speaker 1: I thought, were you not a regular Eurovision watcher? Parties?
Speaker 2: No parties?
Speaker 3: But when when I was really young, you used to
Speaker 3: stop over with you used to record it on the BCR.
Speaker 3: I used to watch it in the morning. That was
Speaker 3: my memories of Eurovision. But since then it's just kind
Speaker 3: of fallen by the way they do that thing. Have
Speaker 3: you seen that recent trend on? Someone did it?
Speaker 1: The first one I saw was a Leeds fan did
Speaker 1: it for their lad or whoever it was saying, You
Speaker 1: know that has to go to bed quite early, so
Speaker 1: I'll put the result on and I'll leave it, slide
Speaker 1: it in a note under the door, because my dad
Speaker 1: did it. Did They used to do that for Eurovision,
Speaker 1: so you'd wake up in the morning and you go, oh,
Speaker 1: Sweden again.
Speaker 3: They've done not now, but it would it would be
Speaker 3: a somewhat clash between what do we watch first, the
Speaker 3: recorded match of the day or the record of Eurovision.
Speaker 1: They always got the vote. What would give me a nation?
Speaker 1: I want a Eurovision with no insight and knowledge? Who
Speaker 1: are we backing to win Eurovision Italy?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Okay, one hundred and twenty five hundreds hundreds.
Speaker 4: If you get to each way, it's usually a nation
Speaker 4: that's got no kind of like political leanings, isn't it.
Speaker 4: You have to go for a sayer one that everyone's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: they're all right, because.
Speaker 1: If you do, if you're doing televote, yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of block voting.
Speaker 4: So I'll go somewhere. Scandinavian Sweden. Sweden are the favorites,
Speaker 4: so you're in.
Speaker 1: You knew that another favorites.
Speaker 4: I promise no nobody takes a dislike to Sweden and
Speaker 4: do this well and abba famously Eurovision entrant. There you go,
Speaker 4: open for anyone to put quiz team if you want
Speaker 4: other We did fail to win our local one a
Speaker 4: few weeks ago, which still stings.
Speaker 1: I'll take the Dutch the Netherlands eleven to one bit
Speaker 1: of each way value. Bit of interest. There we go.
Speaker 1: We will actually talk the FA Cup, of course, we'll
Speaker 1: have a little break, get our thoughts together, and we'll
Speaker 1: pick out a little multiple for the final. Next Saturday
Speaker 1: is the FA Cup Final. They are taking it seriously
Speaker 1: in the Premier League. No other games on that day
Speaker 1: to kind of ensure full focus is on it. Of course,
Speaker 1: can't build a multi game backer for the game. But
Speaker 1: what we're going to do is see what kind of
Speaker 1: picks we have, what kind of fancies we have, put
Speaker 1: together a little multiple for the game. Well house it
Speaker 1: in the usual kind of place for you to back
Speaker 1: as Crystal Palace, who are the home team take on
Speaker 1: Manchester City. Thoughts on this game? Oh my god, you're
Speaker 1: going thoughts on this game? How do we think it's going.
Speaker 4: I'm feeling a bit bad because I made my thoughts,
Speaker 4: like really clear to Tom earlier in the week that
Speaker 4: I really really want Crystal Palace to win, and then
Speaker 4: I remembered the next day that Tom's got man City
Speaker 4: in the outright.
Speaker 1: I'd like, Vinyl, I mean, I'm a romantic, I'd like
Speaker 1: we don't.
Speaker 4: From a this Week's Acer Sporting Live perspective, then it's
Speaker 4: a it's win win, isn't it? Because Jake's got it
Speaker 4: in and outright that he put up in the quarter
Speaker 4: final stage Crystal Palace to win and Man City up
Speaker 4: in the outright, So Nail, that's worked out pretty well.
Speaker 4: But bother with this, it's it's really, it's really hard.
Speaker 4: That's what I was saying to Tom the other day
Speaker 4: is I actually struggle to think of a game, like
Speaker 4: a Major final where I'm not rooting for a team
Speaker 4: that's not my own team as much as Crystal Palace.
Speaker 4: It's it's really They're really a really really likable team
Speaker 4: for lots of reasons because they're not a traditional big side,
Speaker 4: haven't ever won a trophy, major trophy, that haven't got
Speaker 4: a big stadium. They've had loads of players that they
Speaker 4: pluck from the EFL that you feel like you know
Speaker 4: because you've been watching them play against.
Speaker 1: Your team for years.
Speaker 4: And they've got a manager that has come in from
Speaker 4: Europe played a really like smart style of football and
Speaker 4: like turn them into a team that can legitimately threaten
Speaker 4: big opposition. But it is the main thing for me
Speaker 4: is the the leaning towards the thefl that they can
Speaker 4: take Michael Alisa make him amazing for them to buy
Speaker 4: Munich and then well as A becomes the focal point
Speaker 4: of the team exactly the same.
Speaker 2: So the same next year Romanesque as well.
Speaker 4: Exactly, it's definitely hunting Ground, Adam Warton and another one.
Speaker 4: So there's so many players like that. I just really
Speaker 4: like Pallace and I think they'll make a really good
Speaker 4: game of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am obviously rooting for Palace.
Speaker 3: I'm on Palace, but I just think that it'd be
Speaker 3: really really nice change if both Cup competitions were won
Speaker 3: by teams that weren't part of the established so called
Speaker 3: Big Six. Obviously we've had Newcastle beat Liverpool. It'd be
Speaker 3: great if we had Palace BATC and it would be
Speaker 3: a massive like fuck Q to the teams that wanted
Speaker 3: to finish eighth as well, because that would mean they
Speaker 3: don't get an European football and Palace have gone straight
Speaker 3: into the Europa League, and I think that'd be really
Speaker 3: really good just to get someone else involved in Europe that.
Speaker 2: Probably deserves it.
Speaker 3: I think over the last was it like twenty odd
Speaker 3: games they have been the top five, top sixteen based
Speaker 3: on the points collecting in the league. I just think, yeah,
Speaker 3: I like the fact that the FA Cup has such
Speaker 3: an important Obviously the trophy is important, that the prize
Speaker 3: when he's minimal compared to some of the other trophies
Speaker 3: on offer, but the fact that you do get qualification
Speaker 3: to the Europa League. I like that fact because I
Speaker 3: think it does if Pallace were to win this, get
Speaker 3: into Europa League and then kind of kick on from there,
Speaker 3: I think you're going to see the mid class of
Speaker 3: the prem and maybe even the top of the Championship
Speaker 3: starts to take this Cup really really seriously over the
Speaker 3: next few years. And it's just going to make it
Speaker 3: even more. It's gonna the magic's going to come back
Speaker 3: even more. So, Yeah, I'm rooting for Palace. It's going
Speaker 3: to be difficult, but to be fair, I've got more
Speaker 3: question marks about City ahead of the game than I
Speaker 3: have about Palace. You know exactly how Palace is gonna play.
Speaker 3: You know how they're gonna line up with City. You
Speaker 3: know last week Caji came in alongside Dias and I
Speaker 3: thought Guardiol has been playing center half, been doing a
Speaker 3: great job against alongside Das. They looked very, very good
Speaker 3: and obviously the left back o'riley's been playing really really well.
Speaker 3: Does Foden start Bernardo Silver played central midfield last last week.
Speaker 3: I think that'd be a problem if he does that
Speaker 3: is he going to play at all. There's so many
Speaker 3: question marks around City and their team selection, like Harlan factor.
Speaker 3: They've been on this really good run City without Harland
Speaker 3: and then Harlan comes in against Southampton and obviously City
Speaker 3: should have won the games greatly enough chances, but firing
Speaker 3: a blank. You know, would they be better playing more
Speaker 3: fluid without Harland? I'm not too Obviously is a brilliant striker,
Speaker 3: but so many question marks, whereas Palace you just know
Speaker 3: exactly what you're gonna get.
Speaker 1: It feels like the last time, one of the last
Speaker 1: time is going to see this City team in its
Speaker 1: current form, isn't it. It feels like it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a huge summer turnover and a core group that have
Speaker 1: been there for so long. De Bruyner particularly. It's kind
Speaker 1: of the last time we're going to see it in
Speaker 1: this form, isn't it on the big stage?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Very odd, Yeah, it is it is. I think
Speaker 2: they're already starting the development as a team.
Speaker 3: The movement. You know, they've moved again tactically from being
Speaker 3: quite a direct they're very very slow now and possession
Speaker 3: and I think that's going to play into Palot's hands
Speaker 3: and Palace. They fared well against the season they were
Speaker 3: two two Etcelhurst. They went tune it up against against
Speaker 3: City at the he had only a few months ago.
Speaker 3: As it was like a tiny, tiny bit offside. He
Speaker 3: was going to be three nil and that would have
Speaker 3: been curtains and then obviously City came back in the
Speaker 3: second half. But there was no Mark Gahey that game.
Speaker 3: And I think if Gay he plays Palace probably end
Speaker 3: up winning that game. But yeah, I think for the
Speaker 3: purpose of building a multi I'm quite happy to just
Speaker 3: lead the teams out of it, not only because we've
Speaker 3: got skin in the game, but also because I find
Speaker 3: it difficult to pick a team confidently.
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's plenty of other markets to get stuck into.
Speaker 1: Where should we go? Then you lead us off if
Speaker 1: you said there's planes to get stuck into. What we're thinking.
Speaker 4: Just the final thing on the picking the winner, Tom
Speaker 4: that only one of the favorites has won in ninety
Speaker 4: minutes in the last five f A Cup finals, which,
Speaker 4: to be honest, I was staggered by having a look.
Speaker 1: That City against United. Maybe yes, well done? Is that
Speaker 1: the Gunderwan one where he scores two years ago?
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, I know that I wouldn't say
Speaker 4: it for the multi same reason as Jake said. I
Speaker 4: think there's enough reason to avoid that. But as a bet,
Speaker 4: if people are betting on this game, the price that
Speaker 4: Pallas are the well worth getting behind in some way
Speaker 4: as a single bet, because yeah, they look well overpriced
Speaker 4: for me, Where.
Speaker 1: Should we go to them? How do you want to
Speaker 1: start this? I say, we'll build kind of the same game,
Speaker 1: build a bet. We'll put it out on site for
Speaker 1: you to get involved in. If we put something together,
Speaker 1: what are we all fancying we'll go first because we Okay,
Speaker 1: we've rabbited on a lot. I mean, the options are.
Speaker 1: There's a number of ways you're going to approach this.
Speaker 1: If I I'm kind of unsure if I'm getting attached
Speaker 1: too much to the past and how he was. But ultimately,
Speaker 1: this is surely a game where Kevin de Bruyne starts.
Speaker 1: Surely a game where he gets a significant amount, if
Speaker 1: not all, of the minutes unless they're three en all
Speaker 1: up and in the seventy fifth minute you know, well done,
Speaker 1: gets the random applause from Wembley and he's off. But
Speaker 1: it's eleven to ten on sky Bet that Kevin de
Speaker 1: Bruyner score or assist in this contest. Cup finals I
Speaker 1: know can be typically low scoring. It's more of a
Speaker 1: case of teams don't want to lose so much as
Speaker 1: they want to win, and maybe more of the case
Speaker 1: of Pallas considering that the city and everyone kind of
Speaker 1: takes the piss them. Oh look at the you know,
Speaker 1: the fans don't come and stuff like that. They're there
Speaker 1: every year, sometimes multiple times a year, but it still
Speaker 1: important to them. But particularly for Pallas, there is probably
Speaker 1: that element of let's just try and get through the
Speaker 1: ninety minutes however we can. But still de Bruyner eleven
Speaker 1: to ten to score assists if City are to find
Speaker 1: the net, which you'd imagine that they will do. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you look at the prices, not just on a
Speaker 1: City win, but score two plus is four to six
Speaker 1: sir expected. All the bookmakers certainly are them to get involved.
Speaker 1: You'd imagine de Bruner surely has some involvement from both
Speaker 1: open place set piece situations. It just feels like on
Speaker 1: what is his last big game for Manchester City. He
Speaker 1: usually does turn up on these occasions. Any thoughts on that,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's more of a pricing eleven to ten
Speaker 1: on that. I was thinking we'd be pushing odds on
Speaker 1: because you'd imagine he's starting here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no it's not. It's not a bad shout at all.
Speaker 2: We've definitely seen.
Speaker 3: Glimmers of the old Kevin der Broyan, haven't we the
Speaker 3: last couple of games. Well, obviously it's margin international break
Speaker 3: really since he's got back full fitness, I think did
Speaker 3: he did he score twice and get an assist in
Speaker 3: the recent etsy head game with Pallas?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has.
Speaker 1: Got Golden assist maybe, but yeah he's definitely had a few.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't mind that at all.
Speaker 3: My my doubt, I guess, is just around the fact
Speaker 3: that you said the butt makers have set the line
Speaker 3: at two for City.
Speaker 2: I'd be surprised if they scored twice.
Speaker 3: To be honest, I think it's going to be a
Speaker 3: very controlled type of performance from them. I think they're
Speaker 3: going to be well aware of the counter attacking threat
Speaker 3: of Palace and I think it's going to make them
Speaker 3: actually a little bit more defensive. So yeah, that would
Speaker 3: be my only slight concern. And again when it comes
Speaker 3: to Cup finals, I'm probably not on my own I'm
Speaker 3: immediately thinking unders, I don't want to get involved in
Speaker 3: goal scorers because I think the chances of a high
Speaker 3: scoring game, which obviously increases the chance of your goal
Speaker 3: scorer actually find in the net. I think they're so
Speaker 3: low when it comes to cup finals, and FA Cup
Speaker 3: finals have been that way for a while now.
Speaker 1: If you want last ten Premier League starts to Bruner
Speaker 1: has had goal involvement in five of those, so half
Speaker 1: of his last ten Premier League starts. Of course he's
Speaker 1: had a fair few substitute appearances in that, and even
Speaker 1: then he's tried to make an effort from the bench.
Speaker 1: But half of his last ten I think it is
Speaker 1: Premier League games have seen at least a goal or assist.
Speaker 4: Did you know that generally if we're looking at goals,
Speaker 4: players to score, players to assist. Then this is the
Speaker 4: twentieth final at the New Wembley in the FA Cup,
Speaker 4: So ten of nineteen have gone over two and a
Speaker 4: half goals in ninety minutes, but recently, more often than
Speaker 4: not they have. So of the last six have gone
Speaker 4: over to and a half, five of the last eight,
Speaker 4: seven of the last eleven, eight of thirteen, which just
Speaker 4: shows you that only like two of the first seven, sorry,
Speaker 4: first six did so it's a really slow start. The
Speaker 4: fact that four of the last six have gone over
Speaker 4: two and a half goals, it's actually more common than
Speaker 4: we would initially expect. It seems like the Caraveo Cup
Speaker 4: final is the one that is a really really tight
Speaker 4: one because they've been so many nil nills the last
Speaker 4: few years. So I don't I don't know if the
Speaker 4: value is there over two and a half goals is
Speaker 4: three to four, both teams to score is seven to ten.
Speaker 4: But I wouldn't be leaning away from player goal involvements
Speaker 4: because historically then there have been goals no matter what
Speaker 4: the matchup has been, big team against smaller team, big
Speaker 4: team against big team.
Speaker 1: Maybe my mind's warped a bit from just looking at
Speaker 1: so much playoff stuff because it's just the best, but
Speaker 1: it feels like the opposite the playoffs. They're typically low
Speaker 1: scoring affairs at Wembley and without trying to be this
Speaker 1: snobby kind of higher up football, but it could actually
Speaker 1: maybe then be a case of it's not as daunting
Speaker 1: for elite level players to turn up at a national
Speaker 1: stadium with the greatest respect. League two who turn up
Speaker 1: and go. It's the biggest stadium and the crowds that
Speaker 1: these players are going to play in front. There's more
Speaker 1: nerves of making a mistake. You don't want to be
Speaker 1: the one that does it. Whereas suppose when you've got
Speaker 1: world class players Manchester City turning up basically every year
Speaker 1: in some form for them, it's just I suppose another trip.
Speaker 1: In't it that? It's I mean you have to go
Speaker 1: back and count it. But particularly in de Bruyne's case,
Speaker 1: how many times is this guy now played at Wembley?
Speaker 4: I think it's a great point that even not the
Speaker 4: you know, the regularity of them playing on a big
Speaker 4: stage like that, But when you're a player in the EFL,
Speaker 4: and especially a playoff final, it's all about you've.
Speaker 1: Got so much to lose. Your entire season comes down
Speaker 1: to that moment where the Cup's like a nice little
Speaker 1: bonus level.
Speaker 4: That like the Championship, it's even bigger, isn't it the stakes?
Speaker 4: But it's all about not making an error that being
Speaker 4: risk averse, especially like the lower.
Speaker 1: I don't want to that costs US one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty million.
Speaker 4: Fake Cup final, then there will be more of an
Speaker 4: opportunity that I can be that man, to be the
Speaker 4: one who makes a difference, and you think of the
Speaker 4: attacking players and the ability that they have, then you're
Speaker 4: more likely to see that happen. And you've got no
Speaker 4: disrespect to the EFL managers, more like elite level coaches
Speaker 4: that can expose defensive weaknesses. You look at Mannu Nite
Speaker 4: last year. I think anybody saw them scoring those two
Speaker 4: goals that they just lined up to expose man City's frailties.
Speaker 4: So that's probably the couple of explanations for why there
Speaker 4: are more goals.
Speaker 1: So that's eleven to ten on that one. As here
Speaker 1: any other suggestions, So we can obviously then kind of
Speaker 1: put together hopefully multiple I mean, there feels like a
Speaker 1: number of angles we could go at.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd quite like big price cards.
Speaker 2: Seems like there's quite a few players that are overpriced
Speaker 2: to me to be carded.
Speaker 3: The first one's Diashi Kamada seven to one to be carded.
Speaker 3: The bloke has been booked in three of his last
Speaker 3: four starts for Palace, including in the recent meeting against
Speaker 3: Manchester City and the FA Cup semi final.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 3: I can't quite understand why he's seven to one, he's
Speaker 3: averaging one point seven files. Pinti at Wells, the referee
Speaker 3: Stuart at Wells averaging four cards four point three cards. Well,
Speaker 3: he's fresh off a nine card game last week and
Speaker 3: he also oversaw Cities quarter final against Bournemouth and showed
Speaker 3: six cards. So I think cards have generally been quite low.
Speaker 3: I think you've got some stats only here for cards
Speaker 3: in finals, but I think Crystal Palace play with such
Speaker 3: tenacity that I could see them racking up a few
Speaker 3: cards here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was why I started looking at actually that
Speaker 4: last year there were four but three in the last
Speaker 4: ten minutes, including a keeper card.
Speaker 1: Years before one to to.
Speaker 4: Six in the season where there were no fans, five
Speaker 4: for the losing team, season before three, season before three
Speaker 4: with a keeper card season before That's this is where
Speaker 4: it was a bit different. This is twenty seventeen, twenty sixteen,
Speaker 4: twenty fifteen six cards. That was another Arsenal Chelsea where
Speaker 4: there was six cards the time before that, and then
Speaker 4: ten cards in Man United against Palace in twenty sixteen final. Yeah,
Speaker 4: let's give it its proper name please. The Pard You
Speaker 4: Dancing Final, it was six after ninety minutes and five
Speaker 4: the year before that, all for the losing team when
Speaker 4: aston Villa got thrashed for nail by Arsenal. So more
Speaker 4: recently there haven't been that many, but I sided looking
Speaker 4: at it because I thought the same like Crystal Palace
Speaker 4: with for want of a better phrase, feel like they're
Speaker 4: going to try to kick the shit out in man
Speaker 4: City at any opportunity they can.
Speaker 1: In central midfield the highest tackles team. They are quite engaged,
Speaker 1: so I think the right bad third maybe in the
Speaker 1: Premier League.
Speaker 3: I was looking at the fields key as well, because I
Speaker 3: think they could over runs that the midfield players.
Speaker 4: I was looking at Will Hughes three plus tackles at
Speaker 4: seven to four because he's averaging two point eight per
Speaker 4: ninety in the Premier League this season, and the difficulty
Speaker 4: with Man City isn't sorry. With Palaces known exactly who
Speaker 4: they're going to select in central midfield, could could go Hughes.
Speaker 1: This is the only thing about Commander Will Will they
Speaker 1: go for.
Speaker 4: It three two plus. I think that I might have
Speaker 4: even pulled mixed two stats together there two point eight
Speaker 4: fouls per ninety and then I've pulled out the tackles line,
Speaker 4: so I'll have to go and check that now that
Speaker 4: I've been honest, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Well, there you go.
Speaker 3: The other player I had down was Gray. He to
Speaker 3: be carded as well. Six to one.
Speaker 1: I mean there's more confidence definitely going to start with Gay.
Speaker 1: He's got seven yellows and a red this season in
Speaker 1: the league alone.
Speaker 2: Six to one to be carded.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that that was one option. He's discipline in
Speaker 3: the record was actually quite surprising, surprisingly bad. Usually think
Speaker 3: of him as quite a clean, clean player.
Speaker 2: But yeah, six to one. But I like the Kammada one.
Speaker 3: I think the price is huge on Kamada, especially because
Speaker 3: he's every chance he's going to be snapping at the
Speaker 3: heels of cover chich de Bruyner. Who else might play Gunzales.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would boost the multi that is for certain.
Speaker 1: Okay, there are options then on that one. Commada's seven's
Speaker 1: mark Gehe's six is. But there's more guarantee we he's
Speaker 1: going to play. I guess is the balancing act to
Speaker 1: have I see a couple more then we'll kind of
Speaker 1: put something together. The one, A couple of the ones
Speaker 1: I had Tyreek Mitchell to commit fouls five to six.
Speaker 1: That was quite big when they lost five to two
Speaker 1: last month. He had two fouls in that game. Very
Speaker 1: high tackles player, so you'd imagine he'll be heavily involved
Speaker 1: in that five to six. Just to commit a foul
Speaker 1: like that, that seems a little bit big considering how
Speaker 1: engaged he'll be likely kind of opponents Savini're trying to
Speaker 1: cut inside or whatever, and Josco vardiol Is wants to
Speaker 1: have a shot. When you're thinking multiple multis if he's
Speaker 1: going to push back to left back, even if he's
Speaker 1: at center back, I think maybe you know, they'll probably
Speaker 1: get a few corners as there's opportunities there, but particularly
Speaker 1: left back, we've seen him getting forward contributing with goals.
Speaker 1: It's been an FBL delight for the past couple of years.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of selections there that I think you
Speaker 1: know as singles, maybe you would on Mitchell but not
Speaker 1: vardiol But when you're making up a multiple, I think
Speaker 1: that they are two decent prices that do jump up.
Speaker 1: I quite like these.
Speaker 4: The props where we're looking at shots and fouls, because
Speaker 4: there's more certain unless the price is incredibly good for
Speaker 4: a goal or a goal or assist, then the cards
Speaker 4: when it's like traditionally, I think that referees, as we
Speaker 4: know this does happen. They really don't want to show
Speaker 4: yellow cards in a major final, like they're coaching themselves
Speaker 4: through the final so that they don't have to send
Speaker 4: anybody off. So however, Mitchell, it's drifted now like the numbers.
Speaker 4: The numbers bear out, don't they, But the other things
Speaker 4: have They will still give fouls when they're correct fouls.
Speaker 4: The shots one that I was really looking at because
Speaker 4: I feel like I just want to get Asa on
Speaker 4: side in this game. His prices for things that I
Speaker 4: wouldn't necessarily say they're not worth going in a multi
Speaker 4: is that he's six to one for assist. He's more
Speaker 4: been scoring lately on a brilliant hot streak four to
Speaker 4: one to score, fifteen to eight to score or assist,
Speaker 4: and for three plus shots he's twenty one to twenty
Speaker 4: best price five to six with sky Bet. He's had
Speaker 4: four shots in his last game against Spurs, three against
Speaker 4: Forrest in the game before, three against Starts on the
Speaker 4: game before that, and he's had at least two in
Speaker 4: ten of his last twelve games. I just would find
Speaker 4: it really unlikely that he's not gonna have like two
Speaker 4: or three shots in this match, so I would be shocked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my only worry is that will Palace having enough
Speaker 3: of the ball to get him in those shooting positions
Speaker 3: two or three times. I actually went down a similar route,
Speaker 3: but I went shot on target eight to eleven and
Speaker 3: then he's to have one and he's generally got a
Speaker 3: good record of it in the target. Is ten games
Speaker 3: all competition since the last international break, he's got seven
Speaker 3: goals on three assists, so maybe goal involvement could be
Speaker 3: of interest as well. One shot on targeting seven of
Speaker 3: those ten and remarkably, every single shot on target he
Speaker 3: has had in those ten games have gone in.
Speaker 2: Hell of a strike rate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Wembley goals. It's enticing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know one point zero four shots on target
Speaker 3: Pennini this season, so he's averaging over the average. That's
Speaker 3: eight to eleven for a shot on target. Yeah, that
Speaker 3: was one that I quite liked to buy. But yeah,
Speaker 3: that weird stat that all of his last seven shots
Speaker 3: on target gone in well, keep has not saved any
Speaker 3: of them.
Speaker 1: I said, try and potentially wrap us up and kind
Speaker 1: of taking all points made you could kind of dilute
Speaker 1: some of the card shouts downes a taking for the
Speaker 1: shot and target that if you put De Bruyner score assists,
Speaker 1: Vardi Old to have a shot, Ezi to have a
Speaker 1: shot on target, Tirek Mitchell to commit a foul, and
Speaker 1: Mark Gaye to commit a foul. That is thirteen to
Speaker 1: one with Skybit as a multi and it seems I know,
Speaker 1: score and assist, but the others just feel such low
Speaker 1: lines that it feels well worth getting involved in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds good to me.
Speaker 1: What is it without the de Bruyner one. Without de Bruyner,
Speaker 1: it's thirteen to two? Just add move up the one
Speaker 1: to two. So yeah, thirteen to two on that. If
Speaker 1: you'd prefer kind of a prop style one, we could
Speaker 1: potentially take that as it thirteen to two is you know,
Speaker 1: seven zish eights wouldn't be an unusual acha that we
Speaker 1: put together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the de Bruyner one, I think we're just boxing
Speaker 4: ourselves in there, especially as he probably they don't play
Speaker 4: much beyond an hour, does he. So if imagine he's
Speaker 4: gets taken off after twenty five minutes and all the
Speaker 4: others have come in, you're just raging, aren't you? So yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know whether we want to put another one
Speaker 4: in for a slightly bigger prize or whether we just
Speaker 4: take the the others to be fair for that for
Speaker 4: low lines on is one plus on all the other ones.
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's not like we're saying all three
Speaker 4: four plus hours or whatever.
Speaker 2: What about one more?
Speaker 3: Chris Richards to have a shot? Eleven to eight. He's
Speaker 3: had a shot in eleven of his last sorry Chris
Speaker 3: Richard's okay, Alice sent off. He's had a shot in
Speaker 3: eleven of his last What's going on?
Speaker 1: Where are we?
Speaker 3: Had a shot in eleven of his last sixteen, including
Speaker 3: at the he had when he scored Okay, the massive
Speaker 3: set piece, through It and Palace have three of them
Speaker 3: to pfay Ghee Laqua and Richards. Richards sometimes gets overlooked
Speaker 3: because of that and eleven shots in his last sixteen matches.
Speaker 2: It's a pretty good record.
Speaker 1: Eleven to eight for that which I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: I tell you what takes it back up to thirteen
Speaker 1: to one if you feel that it's more realistic to
Speaker 1: have Chris Richards in to have a shot, who is
Speaker 1: just like, it's just a really good record of it
Speaker 1: and having de Bruyns to actually have to either kick
Speaker 1: it in the goal himself or pass to someone else
Speaker 1: to kick it in the goal. This guy can just
Speaker 1: flick on aheader that goes fifteen miles wide.
Speaker 2: Oh, stride forward, shoot.
Speaker 1: And just hit it. Just hit it.
Speaker 2: Please.
Speaker 1: When the two kniel down and they're getting desperate, hit it, boy,
Speaker 1: hit it, I reckon, look it in? Should we go
Speaker 1: for it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Right?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Then our FA Cup build a bet is as follows.
Speaker 1: We are taking ever each year's eight to have a
Speaker 1: shot on target. We've got Josco Vardiol to have one
Speaker 1: plus shots same as Chris Richards one plus shots. There
Speaker 1: they don't have to be on target. And in the
Speaker 1: fowls Market, Tyrek Mitchell to commit a foul and Mark
Speaker 1: Gage commit a foul as well. Thirteen to one the
Speaker 1: FA Cup multi do we like it? Do?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: Who's going to win the final?
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good Actually we didn't. Mancy Pallas think
Speaker 1: we're a head man, think we ahead and City our digo.
Speaker 1: I forgot to actually round up what we think is
Speaker 1: going to happen. So there we are.
Speaker 4: Yep.
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