Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, June twenty third, twenty twenty six.
Welcome to the Giant Bomb Cast. I'm your host, Jan
oh CHOA Happy fishing week to all that celebrate. And
that's redundant because we're all celebrating fishingweek here at giant
bomb dot com. I hope you all have your reels out,
your lines are ready to catch the big tuna of
pod casts, which is us joining me co captain of
the ship. Especially appropriate because it's fishing week.
Speaker 2: Jeff Crabbe, I'm catching a big one. I've been fishing
all week and I'm very excited about a Jan that's right.
Speaker 1: He bought a fishing rod just for this week in
preparation to celebrate Dan record.
Speaker 3: It is true, and I found out you have to
buy a real in line afterwards, and so the next
step is figuring out how that all works.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be fun. Don't worry, folks. You can also
go crabbing. That counts as fishing, and we got the
master of.
Speaker 3: Crabs here, Jeff Backalor.
Speaker 4: There's a shampoo you can buy that takes care of that.
Speaker 1: Talking about like the snow and dungeness kind.
Speaker 4: Maybe where you play ball.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I crabs only means one thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, there's only one definition for that stuff.
It's cleared up. It's fine. I'm allowed back in the pool.
Thanks for having.
Speaker 1: Me, Jan, Thank you very much. We've got the boy
of games media my likenati.
Speaker 5: Hi, it's me Mike manaughty. We're not live on YouTube,
by the way, what I'm doing?
Speaker 3: Good? Now? We are?
Speaker 1: I pressed the button. Don't worry.
Speaker 3: I saw the chat messages. Yay. Oh.
Speaker 5: I thought I was the one who's I thought I
was a good boy. I was the one who's gonna
bring you the news. Now it is just a bother.
Now I'm just that guy who's telling you that you
already know. No one likes that guy.
Speaker 3: Everyone.
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm glad you finally realized that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't worry, Mike. There's multiple means of communicating to me.
You don't have to do it on the podcast that's
getting recorded right now.
Speaker 2: I should have mad at me. I don't know you really.
Speaker 3: Early, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I clicked it when I looked at the stone outlive.
All right, Charle's mad at me? And what's mad at me?
Speaker 2: Fuey.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna sit here.
Speaker 1: Hey, Mike Man, I'll forgive you if you could tell
folks what's happening and how they can celebrate fishing Week.
Speaker 2: Oh, veryitch, the big one.
Speaker 3: Reil it on in here.
Speaker 5: It's fishing Week on gime Bomb, and that means you
gotta cast your line over the store on giant bomb
dot com because the biggest fish of all is sexy merchandise.
You can enjoy a new shirt pack, even a tank top,
trucker hat, fishing hat, all with the very fetching Giant
Bomb Fishing Week logo.
Speaker 3: Seriously amazing, amazing art there.
Speaker 2: Reil it on in. It's a real big fish and
you'll look cool.
Speaker 3: You have kids, I've always heard that they can, like
the mood shifts are insane where it's like they'll just
be screaming and throwing a tantrument and then they'll just
be totally fine, Like the next second. Is that like
what we saw with him just being flailing man and
yelling to phish promo? Is that kind of what we're saying?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think maybe you notice that. Like
a lot of times, I'll just have to no sell
Mike because I know if I wait thirty seconds the
storm will pass.
Speaker 3: YEA sure, that's yeah, absolutely true.
Speaker 1: That's like my favorite thing to do after Mike says
something outlandish is just like who's going to be the
first one to say.
Speaker 3: Something exactly yeah?
Speaker 1: And like I know you guys aren't physically in the
room with me, but I'll look to my left and
right imagining you guys, and then I'll look at imaginary
yeah right, yes, exactly yeah. Fun fun at times, folks. Uh,
Jeff Grupp tell the folks at home how they can
also support us here at giant bomb dot com if
they perhaps are, I'll have already celebrated and bought stuff
at store Doug giant bomb dot com to celebrate fishing Week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should go to giant bomb dot com slash
join and become a premium member. If you do so,
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thing because we want to keep doing it. I know
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to us. You can make sure it's going to keep
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If you become a premium member you also get access
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Speaker 2: Yes, there is a reason I'm wearing this shirt. Yes,
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Speaker 3: Who knew.
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Speaker 3: To soult puzzles.
Speaker 1: Shouts out to Mary, you want to hear someone say
the most outlandis shit all the fucking time. Go watch
portal Pals and just all of everything. Mary says, Uh,
Thank Mary for Mary's what I say. Thank Mary for
Mary speak about premium people out there, we uh because
of Mike Manatti's DK sixty four marathon stream, we hit
a certain goal where we would do a premium blight
on one of us five the owners and you at home,
you premium members out there, YouTube members, however you were
supporting us. We put the vote to y'all.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm.
Speaker 1: Go fuck yourself, and we have the results. So the
voting was on the website on the Premium discord. Chuck
Surface that multiple methods here. Let's start from the bottom,
shall we.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, me.
Speaker 1: Coming coming in fifth with fifty one votes.
Speaker 3: Mike and hundred people voted right, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no.
Speaker 1: A lot of people voted in fourth place Jeff Grubb
with eight votes.
Speaker 2: I understand that I am I'm in bladed in the
why almost twice as much as Mike.
Speaker 3: Wow, I've played the most blake club of anyone now
in history.
Speaker 1: We're in third place myself with three hundred and sixty
nine votes. Nice.
Speaker 4: That's surprising. I mean, this is all unscientific, but it's
it's surprising.
Speaker 1: I'm the Internet's darling more or less.
Speaker 4: Backlar, I was expecting a little more for Jan.
Speaker 3: Really want that for Jan.
Speaker 1: No one wants to hurt me. I'm uncancelable.
Speaker 4: This isn't hurting. Keep going with this.
Speaker 1: Poll, all right, I'm gonna say the numbers here, and
this is kind of close. Second place got one thousand
and one hundred and seventy two votes, and then first
place got one thousand and five and eighty four votes.
Speaker 2: Quite a jump from third place to second and then noticeable.
Speaker 1: The person that is getting blighted this is between Dan
Reiker Jeff Backlar. The person getting the premium blight is.
Speaker 3: Je Time.
Speaker 4: There's just so exciting, there's just so much to like
still review, I mean, this is just you give law
Georgia the wait wait, oh, Marikopa County.
Speaker 2: There's some funny business happening over there, hanging chads.
Speaker 4: I wish you was as simple as a hanging chad,
my little Mikey. There's just so many variables that are
unaccounted for, dead bodies, cemeteries, raided, people sharing passwords and stuff.
It's I mean, look like, on its face, I could
understand how the casual, giant bomb premium voter would look
at the results of this poll and think, well, this,
this tracks, this makes sense. But a really keen eye
will notice something nefarious afoot. And I know you're all thinking, like, oh,
isn't it insane that if we were to trust the
results of this election, that still over a thousand people
wanted to see d and continue to suffer even though
he's guaranteed to be on this program over and over
and over again until the end of probably time. We
got yeah, right, So, I mean again, there's just so
many we have to you know, a pretty big dan. Yeah.
I mean that campaign went on, you know, and again
we're still not done tabulating. I think like this will
probably run into maybe February of March next year.
Speaker 2: To really understand, we got to figure out the short
list of games you can play.
Speaker 1: You didn't you didn't read.
Speaker 4: The fine print. You didn't read the fine print. Mike
digits just like everyone else. You read the headline, but
you don't read the story.
Speaker 1: Did you want to change to like an electoral premium
college vote?
Speaker 4: Oh sure, no this no, you leave, you leave the
electoral college out of this. The way this is good,
the way it works. And again, if you really just
read the fine print, you would realize that there is
a caveat the caveat was and it is written in
plain English, certified by a notary that if the list
of games was not presented along with the voting, it
would default to Dan.
Speaker 3: Let's go, let's get a cart game boy color chat
throughout some ideas.
Speaker 4: You're cramming. You're cramming before the test. You can't change
the result.
Speaker 3: You can wear.
Speaker 1: It would be hilarious because he hates.
Speaker 4: Cats I.
Speaker 6: Have.
Speaker 2: You'd be great if he was Aquaman. That would be
another one for Justice.
Speaker 3: Reboot one. I'm riting all these down. We're going to
search before.
Speaker 4: I'm going to be the bigger blake and I'm gonna
just say fuck it, I'll do it. Okay, let's look.
Speaker 3: At the candy. Would be fun at the calendar. Let's
see what the future three for Genesis. Yeah, he could
be I'm not every Hill's cop guy.
Speaker 5: Look, I'm not saying that backlars, like maybe not like
as good a gamer as some of us.
Speaker 3: But let's make sure he can you guys, how he
could do a space ace or anything.
Speaker 4: Are you guys good? May of twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3: Hey, we're pre recording.
Speaker 4: This the eighth of May.
Speaker 3: Fantas for your schedule, we're pre recording this one. Yeah,
saying good for you. Yeah the yeah.
Speaker 5: So yeah, we'll work on that shortlist everybody, and then
there will be another vote for that backward. Do you
think your strategy of calling our audience ugly be backfired
on you?
Speaker 4: I mean, it's amazing that that's it still was close after.
Speaker 2: That, I played five hundred.
Speaker 4: You know, I got what I wanted. I played these
motherfuckers like a fiddle. Okay, I wanted because I wanted
a break from all the other bullshit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we have dad work on our texts.
Speaker 3: Well whatever, sign whatever, It's fine.
Speaker 4: I know you'll sign whatever. Yeah, we're not going to
do that, obviously, I will have did do that before.
Resort to that.
Speaker 3: He's like, sometimes journalist, Now I'm a tectoralist.
Speaker 2: Your kids beat dependents for our company. Does it work
like that?
Speaker 4: No, you can be adopted yet it should be a
tax break. Honestly, Mike, I'll adopt you, bro. I mean, yeah,
we've had this confa your dad, I'll be your dad.
Speaker 2: The first time you've offered to a doct me.
Speaker 1: It's a reoccurring thing. Honestly, it doesn't happen.
Speaker 7: If it can't happen if you don't ask. Okay, that's right,
shoot you shot back whatever you know. Dan wants to wrestle,
he wants to take a bump, and I don't.
Speaker 3: Have done it. It sucks. I don't want that.
Speaker 4: And I want to be Mike's dad. Okay, everyone's got
their dreams.
Speaker 2: We all have our fantasy folks.
Speaker 1: That is the type of hilarity that you were supporting
by supporting us at Giant bomb dot com. Boys, what's happening?
What's what's going on? What are we doing before we
get to the video games, what's happening?
Speaker 2: I had a garage sale and it was a lot
of weirk.
Speaker 1: It went.
Speaker 2: It went pretty well. It was it was like, look,
we want, I want. We have a bunch of stuff
in that like storage room over on the other side.
We got two storage rooms down here, and the other
one was a lot of stuff stuff, and that one
needed to be cleared out. And we did a good
job doing that. We were gonna do to do that
no matter what. We might as well make some money.
But as were getting ready for it, the night before,
my HVAC system started leaking water everywhere. So I had
to like stop helping and go downstairs and figure that out.
And I almost just like was like, I need to
call somebody, But I tried to figure it out. I
think I think I think I figured it out. It
was Hey, when the thing tells you to change your
air filter, change your air filter, because I think I
think it was not letting enough air get through, and
the coils froze over, and then there was a little
bit of a clog in the drain pipe, so that
the drain got backed up because it was frozen. There
was so much water, so when it fell, it just
got everywhere.
Speaker 3: Anyone tells you that that it's clogged.
Speaker 2: Nothing told me it was clogged the.
Speaker 4: Filter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the my nest thermostat was like, hey, it's
been about six months since you last changed your air filter.
It's time to do it, and I was like, yeah,
I mean you just say that on a time where
you don't really know whatever. I'll get to it when
I get through it. And it's like, no, there's a
reason they tell you at that time. And then that
abount a time. That about the amount of time it
takes for those things to get completely jammed up with gunk.
And it was real bad.
Speaker 4: So I do it like once a year, but six
months is probably even better.
Speaker 2: I mean, this one was like, oh, I clearly it
probably had been about a year. I might have like
dismissed it last time back, or I could have easily
have done that and just forgot about it. But yeah,
it was it told me to do that. In like
two weeks later, I started noticing water on the ground,
so it was like, okay, yeah, that that tracks. And
I replaced the filter and I got the HVAC out
and sucked a bunch of gunk out of the pipes
and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: That was satisfying, right, and I'm like, all right, I'm
getting this figured out, gunky.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I turned the A C back on and it hasn't
leaked yet.
Speaker 3: I forgot how to fix this thing, so it's good.
Hell yeah, filters.
Speaker 4: Now, filters, make sure they're facing the right way. There's there.
They're one directional.
Speaker 2: Filt scary because there's an eer. The thing has an
arrow on it.
Speaker 5: It's my h fact that I'm like, not that isn't
helping me out as much the other way.
Speaker 4: You know, Mike, you just got to know which way
it sucks.
Speaker 5: Bro's got to feel it, feel.
Speaker 1: Just what you have put it to the air.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 2: You have that big return register that like vent in
your house, and then like that's where the air comes from,
and like the air needs to point away from that.
The air needs to point toward like all the electronics
that that makes okay, electronics, the pipes, Like the HVAC
cabinet has all like electronics and stuff inside of it
and the blower and all that stuff. Yeah, just make
sure the air is flowing from the return register into
the page back cabinet.
Speaker 5: I think I still have some down there that can
just swap in. You always have to like buy two.
You can't just buy one film exactly.
Speaker 3: I was very happy they get one. They can't.
Speaker 2: You ten hot dog buns but only eight hot dogs?
Speaker 3: Bullshit?
Speaker 4: Oh, just do what I do, don't.
Speaker 3: That's not an option option. I had.
Speaker 2: Father's Day happened. It was just mine, I think, and
my present was a stadium style hot dog steamer house
and the.
Speaker 4: Oh that's interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just like put water in the bottom and
it like steams on your so you can put the
buns on top. I actually spotted on my hunt. Are
we stilling that in the garage Dale?
Speaker 3: Nope?
Speaker 2: I got it for Father's Day? Hell yet? Yeah, yeah,
I did it that night.
Speaker 1: It was hard. Happy Daddy's Day to the daddy's on
the podcast and the.
Speaker 4: Daddy thanks Mikey, I got your card.
Speaker 3: Honestly, it was touching. That's how you know it?
Speaker 1: You better crazy? There we go.
Speaker 3: I'm getting choked up, man.
Speaker 4: Uh gang.
Speaker 1: I did something over the weekend that uh maybe some
of the most pain and uncomfort I felt, only to
not get the right result that I wanted because I
couldn't take the pain. I don't know if you can
tell with this lighting here, but I did die and
bleach and dye my hair. Let me turn this light on.
Did It's okay? It doesn't look as black. I wanted
to get silver, and it's like a silverish silverish purple
shit hurts, like fuck. I don't know if anyone tells
you that.
Speaker 4: I mean bleach, yes, oh yeah on your scalp right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I used to do that a bunch back in the
old days.
Speaker 3: Really.
Speaker 1: And then the kind woman at the salon was like,
are you sure you're not in pain? Uh? And then
I was like, no, I'm fine, it's okay. And then
she told me all this. I have no idea the
probably what are you asking the pain?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yes, as long as you have it on. Oh, Like
normally I've been told bleach is just supposed to be
on your hair for like thirty to forty minutes. Because
I had really dark black hair, she left it on
for sixty minutes.
Speaker 4: Damn.
Speaker 1: But you know, it is what it is. And then
she told me because I told her I wanted to
get silver, and she was like, we're gonna have to
do a second round of bleach. Dog, I'm like, she said,
she said, it's no use, and I told her I
can't do that. It hurts too much. And she was like,
all right, we'll sell it for this and then maybe
you can use this purple shampoo because apparently they sell
special purple shampoo that neutralizes colors in your hair.
Speaker 3: I don't understand it.
Speaker 2: Is that that purpose like that purple toothpaste that was
on social media a while back where they're like.
Speaker 1: This is what really it's color theory. Yeah, I don't know,
but I have a picture here. Let me try and
put this in focus. This is when my hair was
just bleached, and I almost thought about this, Yeah, Cody
looking motherfucker. Yeah, style, I thought about doing that.
Speaker 4: Did you get the when I used to die it
it felt like your head was just kind of getting
real hot.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, And it didn't help that like all the
hair dryers were going off in the salon, so like
it was just warm and I just generate a lot
of heat. Anyway.
Speaker 4: You gotta suffer for the beauty, baby, you know, don't
I know it? Don't I know it? You you less
so than others.
Speaker 3: But sure so it looks, you know, super so over there.
And then it just got dark again.
Speaker 1: So she added, like a hair dye after the bleach.
Speaker 4: The bleach is like the blank canvas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's the white Jesso. So this is it, like,
because the bleach is like permanent like that, like that
the hair that has been bleached, will not like wear off.
The dye will wear off, so you'll go back to
that bleach color here eventually, right like three months or so.
Speaker 3: And at that point obviously I'm.
Speaker 1: Just gonna go Guy Fieri at that point.
Speaker 3: Hell so for Virtuoso, we needed to send him bleach
also to Mononyous.
Speaker 4: That was.
Speaker 1: I don't think he would have bleached his beard though.
Speaker 3: No, I wasn't going to bleach my beard.
Speaker 2: It's wild. I was like it in my mind where
the just fer meant thing was going to work and was.
Speaker 3: Just going to dye my beard blonde for that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Uh. The lady was very nice that the salon
was very busy. Shouts out to the salon. It's near
the I Hop and Daily City. I don't want to
say this ship, uh anything else popping off board?
Speaker 3: Could I do that? I'm looking at if I did bleached,
could I do the Scott Steiner or I just haven't
here and then just what he did?
Speaker 1: Yeah, funny, you could do like the seth Rawlins, but
your beard so you just have one blonde streak.
Speaker 4: No, I think I want you should shape your beard.
It could go long enough where you could shape it What.
Speaker 3: Does that mean though, because it's like I go to
the place and get it like, you know, kind of
cleaned up and stuff. It's been a few months, but
you know, like just.
Speaker 4: Just just like just the shape, you know what shape like? Uh,
maybe like an Easter Island statue kind of thing.
Speaker 5: I saw a lady who has hair get her hair
first was made all frizzy. Then the person just turned
it into a cube around her entire heads. It was
just walking with like a marble of hair. Couldn't that's cool?
Speaker 4: Cool?
Speaker 3: Band? Here? Should I be able.
Speaker 1: To like might hurt though?
Speaker 3: Because yeah, but again beauty pay don't hurt. Don't hurt man,
And now you're Captain Lou Yeah yeah, face it was
sucked up Dan.
Speaker 1: If you ever like trim trim the beer to something smaller,
you should just do the Steiner.
Speaker 2: Oh this looks you look like the basis from System
of a Down.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't like this at all. This is bad.
Speaker 4: Gosh, that's exactly what I had in mind.
Speaker 3: Damn, I don't like, don't hurt? What do you do?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: The other thing I want to tell you all boys,
I bought I bought an espresso machine.
Speaker 4: Oh you did you did you get the hack?
Speaker 1: Yes, I bought specific brand so I could hack it.
Speaker 4: Tell me what this is. I want to see a
hack in espresso machine?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So so I blame all of this, by
the way, Will Smith, Right, Will Smith in the og
Whiskey Media tested days he'd make Ryan Davis like a
special cup of coffee and everything coffee, thank you. And
that got me interested in coffee gadgets and living in
San Francisco. It's just flowing in the streets. Uh. So,
then you know I saw the heat on the street
that there's a specific espresso machine that people are hacking
to turn a five hundred dollars ish machine into one
that does the job of like a three K machine.
So people will like adjust the temperature, the pressure that
this steam is coming out of by just getting into
the guts of the machine and adding other electronics to it,
so you can adjust like the pressure that it's pushing
out at on top of like making sure the water
is getting preheated appropriately. You could set it all up
on Bluetooth as well, so you can set up yo,
I want a shot to be pulled in twenty five
seconds and stop it or stop a shot as soon
as it gets to like thirty six grams, it's fucked wow.
Speaker 4: How do you hack it? Though?
Speaker 2: It's like an open source thing. You can like like
the crowd has like done the work here. You just
got to buy the stuff and then do it yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, source expressive.
Speaker 4: I you got to like get up in its firm
where it gets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally yeah. So wait where are you in the process.
You purchased one, have you begun the work?
Speaker 1: So what I want to do first is I want
to just get acquainted with the machine at the baseline,
like the stock default, just to be able to tell
the differences. I've ordered the parts to mod it and everything.
For folks at home, they are curious. It's the uh
gagia g a g g I a classic pro. It's
is the base machine, Jane. I'll send you the story
that Chris Person did about this. I've read that multiple times.
Speaker 4: I just been to put in the show notes for people. Yes,
the colors, you get to have all these fun colors.
Speaker 1: I got a stainless steel baby.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: It goes like the retro baby blue.
Speaker 3: Nah. I don't like blue.
Speaker 4: Store, the store name that that returned the first result
is called whole latte love. Okay, I like it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jane, I need to know how this goes because
I'm i might be following in your footsteps.
Speaker 3: I've been considering this for a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what does it have?
Speaker 4: Like a USB somewhere?
Speaker 1: How do you You just got to get into the
electronics inside the machine? Uh? The specific mod that I'm
looking for, I'll uh is the guy mate? So you
wind up adding like a little screen to your machine? Yes,
I'll post that here.
Speaker 4: Can you make a can you make a video tutorial?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: That's sure there's a billion in them? What I'm intending
to do?
Speaker 4: Because yeah, I'm sure there's a billion of those now right.
Speaker 1: But you know, uh, Dan, I I learned this when
we went to WrestleMania and no offense to most wrestling media,
I can't stand them.
Speaker 3: I can't also yes offense, Yes offense.
Speaker 1: There's some coffee people out there cannot stand them either.
And I think we have developed a specific tone that
I look for on the internet no matter what industry
of just dufis is having fun doing things they like.
And whenever someone and you know, don't get me wrong,
I like it when someone gets super granular and gets
super into the science when someone is just super fucking dry.
I can't fucking stand this ship. So yeah, I intend
to make a VID and everything.
Speaker 4: It's only espresso.
Speaker 8: You can't do coffee, you, I mean you can make
an Americano. I guess yeah, sure, sure, sure, it's neat.
I wish you luck on your on your journey.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I'm very excited. Also, you could get a
specific Bluetooth scale that will feed into the electronics as well,
so you can just make sure everything is weighed out properly.
I also want to learn how to do a rosetta,
which is like the latte art and stuff. As soon
as y'all come over here, make lattes for everybody except
those that don't want to. I don't have one. I
want to zero. I'll get you a coke.
Speaker 4: Zero, don't worry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll put Milton.
Speaker 3: To make me a coke zero. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'll hack into the machine some more to make a
coke zero just for mikey ye boys speaking about a
machine that shoots steam. Wow, thank you, thank you, thank you,
thank you. Dan Reikert. You have been playing around and
reviewed and made a video A banger of a video.
By the way, folks at home, thank you. Just you
go check that out.
Speaker 4: You've checked out the Steam machine.
Speaker 3: Yes, uh, definitely check out the video for the kind
of long thoughts on everything and seeing it in action
and all that good stuff. I did say I did
posit it in the video that I thought this was
going to become my most used gaming device, and the
couple weeks i've had it now it has very much
been playing out that way. I've got various and bargoed
games I'm playing right now on it. I've been playing
retro games on it. Just everything works wonderfully on that machine.
I love it, and I think the whole craux of
the video was that, like, look, if you are a
hardcore PC guy and you're trying to you know, max
out everything and you've got your you know, if you're
trying to compare it to like a forty ninety and
things like that, it's going to disappoint you. That's not
what this thing is. This is a box to put
under your TV and access your Steam library and play
things at pretty good settings. I kind of equate it
to like a Base PS five for most games, but
they've been putting out like a ton of up base
and stuff already, things that are like improving the ray
tracing performance and all that. But the thing I would
say to anyone that winds up getting it, because I
know they're doing the lottery system and I think people
are finding out Thursday if they get them run things
at fourteen forty P if it doesn't bother you. I
mean that's basically like the quality of performance mode thing
on like a PS five Pro, and I always pick performance.
I always want frame rate over resolution. And that's kind
of the choice you gotta make with this, like do
you want to run things at four K? Like if
we're talking like a modern big you know, like a
double seven first Light or something. Are you gonna want
to play a game like that at four K resolution
and like medium settings and kind of like maybe a
thirty to forty five frame rate? Or do you want
to bump it down to fourteen forty P have it
run around sixty? And I tried that with a ton
of different games, and it's every time I preferred fourteen
forty P. So again, this is not going to outperform
any you know, upper middle or upper tier PC as
far as graphical power. But what this thing is for
like a cool little box that sits on your shelf
and is extremely easy to set up and uses that
steam ui that if you've used a Steam deck or
anything like that, you've used it and you're used to it.
It is exactly as advertised. Like the thing that sucks
is obviously the timing. It just wound up being terrible
in terms of components and price and things like that.
Announced The five twelve base is one forty nine grab.
You're probably gonna go over this in the news, but
it's expensive. All forms of this are between like one
thousand and fifteen hundred, you know, the different the five twelve,
the two terribies, bundles and all that stuff. So it's
fucking expensive for sure. Yeah, But for what this thing is,
it is like it is as advertised and I love it.
It is definitely my going to be my most played
game console for a while.
Speaker 1: I think, Dan, I think I've seen this question asked
around the internet now, But how how does it sound like?
Do you notice like worrying up when like.
Speaker 3: Like the console itself, the costole itself. Yes, you don't
hear a fucking thing. It is, like, I don't think
I have heard this thing once, yeah, you know, and
it's like there's just like little bells and whistles, Like
I just love the way he kind of Valve does
their hardware and software and everything now where it's like
I realize yesterday they're like, oh, if I hold the
Steam button and I flicked the left analog stick up
and down, that adjusts the volume. And so that's just
another thing where it's like, you know, I had a
PC hooked up to my TV for the last like
fifteen years or whatever, and I'm just very used to
having to have like, Okay, well here's my remotes, here's
my game controller, here's my Bluetooth mouse and keyboard, and
I just get all the shit all over the couch
and everything, and now it's just like pretty much everything's
consolidated to like the CEC stuff works great. Where I
sit down on my couch, I press the Steam button,
TV turns on, Steam machine turns on. I'm just sinking
the volume from the controller. It all just kind of
works and simplifies the whole setup.
Speaker 5: And yeah, go ahead, just with the price, because like
I see people saying different things and I'm kind of
it's hard for me to sort of parse what's happening,
because obviously the price is expensive because of component prices
all these other things. But is it a case of
this is still a pretty good deal for a PC
of this performance, or you could spend that money and
build your own PC and it might even be better
grub yees.
Speaker 2: So it's like, if you were to build a PC
with a budget of one fifty dollars, you're probably coming
out with something that's right around this. So like that
conversation is a little bit moot, Like obviously that everyone's
situation is different. Right, If you're someone who has any PC,
like literally any PC from the last seven eight years,
you can probably upgrade that thing with one or two
components for a lot less money and get a huge boost,
and that would probably be much better. If you are
someone who's coming in like I just want a way
to play PC games on my TV in a way
that makes sense, this is still in the conversation. It's
just not the lam dunk it would have been. Otherwise
it was it would have been like honestly a part
of it when he was like, hey, if you just
want to play indie games on your TV, maybe still
just get a steam deck like a used Steam deck,
because this is the exact same thing as a steam
machine that they work the exact same way as long
as you have a doc. Maybe get the controller instead
and then there you go, you're off to the races.
But the controller sold out till twenty twenty seven, so yeah,
not as simple as all that.
Speaker 4: I do think you're obviously paying a little bit of
a premium too, on top of the you know, overpriced
currently you are.
Speaker 3: Not they are not subsidizing you.
Speaker 2: So that this is where it looks rough compared to
a console like the PS five Pro obviously more powerful,
obviously less money. That is, it's just a tough comparison
for this thing. And the reason is like PlayStation feels
comfortable subsidizing that somewhat, although they're probably still making a profit.
Speaker 3: They have the economy of scale.
Speaker 2: Sounds like what happened here is the RAM manufacturer, specifically
all three kind of said to valve you're a newer customer,
We're just here's the take it or leave it price,
and you have to take it or leave it. And
that left them in a situation where they had no
choice but to charge this amount. They were not going
to get Sony PlayStation prices here.
Speaker 4: So and yeah, and I do think you could rationalize
a bit of the premium up cell with like, you know,
some of the bespoke features of this thing, the lighting,
the whisper quiet operation that Dan is saying it. It
performs as like there's there's certainly value there, I think,
or at least you could make the case that it's there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think I think you're you know again, like and
we'll get into this in the in the new section,
but like presumably like you will be able to load
stems on a PC very soon, yes, and you can
kind of like take your best crack at building one
of these sort of adjacent machines.
Speaker 1: You know, if you even if you just sort of.
Speaker 4: Do like a surface level uh exploration on you know,
PC park picker, you can find similar builds in that
price range maybe one hundred dollars one hundred fifty dollars below.
It's kind of all within the ballpark.
Speaker 3: I think it's all right there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we kind of put it.
Speaker 2: And you know that is before you buy windows, which
is when you're gonna windows on that machine. And so
for me, this whole thing is like you know, hearing
about it from the beginning, it's like, okay, is this
going to be the time where Linux really takes off
on PCs? And and I still feel like that that's
that's part of the story here where we can sort
of begin the process of leaving windows behind, or at
least pushing it aside and making room for something else.
It's just it's just not going to be the title
wave of that taking over the way I thought it
was going to be. When we did think the price
was going to be around seven hundred and fifty dollars
in that range, which is what Steam thought it was
going to be. Valve thought it was going to be
around there, and they got blindsided by all this as well.
Speaker 5: You know what I feel like a piece of shit
is I was pretty certain I was not going to
get one of these, didn't need one. Then I found
out it was a lottery to see if you can
buy one, and I'm like, well, I better enter than
a lottery, right.
Speaker 4: It's funny, right, Like I've heard that sentiment from a
number of people where it's like, there's no fucking way
on earth I'm buying one of these things. And then
it's like, oh, I could win the right to send
money out. Well, that might be just all dynamic. Yeah,
I've heard that from like a number of people, which
is a really interesting, uh, really interesting way to kind
of release this thing.
Speaker 1: I'm curious as to how many people are also interested
in getting the Steam Machine to use it as like
a PC on top of just like the gaming functionality,
because then like.
Speaker 3: You can't do that.
Speaker 1: In my head, that kind of starts to I don't
want to say justify as the price, but it's like
it just starts to think like, okay, if you only
have maybe like a laptop or something like when any
and every time I've gone to Valve, they show off
like how the steam Deck or the Steam Machine can do.
It can run Blender, it can run Premiere, it can
do all this other stuff. So I'm curious.
Speaker 3: I am surprised that that was some and I didn't
expect to use it for it's minor. But like normally,
like let's say like a Manati or Kayla is streaming,
I'll put them up on the Twitch app on the TV,
and then to be in the chat, I'll like flip
up my iPad next to me and I'll just pull
up the chat like browser Window or whatever, and that's
how I type. And I realized now it's like, oh wait,
I can just go into desktop mode on the Steam
Machine and I could just have like a tiny Bluetooth
keyboard on the couch and so of the whole iPad
and I can just like sign into Twitch there and
just use it like a computer hooked up with the
TV like super easy. So there's there have been a
lot of little things like that where it's like, oh,
that's nice too. Oh that's nice too. Oh I like this,
you know. And also just like I freed up, you know,
like I've tried laptops, I've tried full towers and everything,
and just it's just nicer having a little box on
the show. Yeah too.
Speaker 1: I've seen some people that are kind of insane and
they'll take like the newest Mac Mini that a lot
of folks like, and they'll use that as a portable computer.
So they'll have like an iPad, a bluetooth keyboard, tiny,
it's tiny, it's small, and they'll use that as their
primary computer like a makeshift laptop. So I wonder if
there's going to be a world where people will start
to use like a Steam machine with like a low
profile set up to like as kind of like like
a mobile ish PC or whatever.
Speaker 4: They have to be heavy, right though, it is pretty bold,
like not significantly heavier.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I was holding that in a game cube
in each hand and it's like significantly heavier than a GameCube.
No handle, Yeah.
Speaker 4: There's not a handle yet. Three D printed file.
Speaker 3: When when we went to valve Jan, they had it
set up for like, oh, here's like a video editing station.
We had a two monitor set up with a mouse
and keyboard, a full on camera for the premiere or
Mike's weird whatever the fuck you found, right, Mike's a
big MOVAVI guy.
Speaker 4: You don't talk about that.
Speaker 2: That's a desert Mica video editor that got tricked in
installing and him just continuing to use Now incredible. Sure,
but yeah, I'll tell you guys about the mouffly fee.
Speaker 3: What are you wait? No, keep out, just keep going.
Speaker 4: No, no, son of mind gets tricked like that, Just
just have your browser pain who to another?
Speaker 2: Oh I should get.
Speaker 4: That, Oh Mike, Oh Mike, do better? Uh? Dan.
Speaker 2: The thing I'm most curious about, curious about is like
just using it with a TV so VR r h
hdr al. He's like, it does it flash when it
does swap between resolutions stuff like that, And.
Speaker 3: That's the ship that drove me nuts about Like, yes,
all these years of having a PC or laptop hooked up,
it works, but I can't tell you, like i'd say
fifty percent of the time I boot it up, and
I'm like, why am I not getting audio? Why is
this flashing? Why is all of a sudden I shut
the lid and it used to be fine that way
and only display on monitor two, and now it's not working.
Like that type of shit was always always happening. As
much as I was updating drivers and looking up you know,
Reddit threads and support or bugging you guys about it
and stuff, I'd get it working and then nothing would change.
In the next day it would be broken again, some
handshake issue or some fucking thing or can't go through
the splitter or whatever. This I have had zero problems.
I gotta go splitter.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're just talking about Windows like that's kind of
what and.
Speaker 3: Not dealing with Windows. It's fantastic. I saw Pete in
the chat. Here's a huge part of the appeal for
me was the box being a self contained thing. I
don't need to build it. I don't need to fiddle
with drivers and whatever. It just works. That's the case.
So you open it up. It is an HDMI cable.
It is a power cable. That is fucking it. And
then button yes, it just it starts updating. You plug
in the controller once to sink it, and it's just oh,
there's my entire Steam library and I'm just playing games.
It just fucking works. I haven't had any weird issues
with the TV or vr R or or anything like that.
Speaker 2: And like so when you when it does swap into HDR,
that just worked.
Speaker 3: Like I flipped that on up because like the whole
time I was recording the direct feed stuff for the
video also wouldn't be watched out. Yeah, and I flipped
it on and off a million times, never had an issue.
Speaker 4: I wonder if you, if you do the customs Steam
OS box, will it behave that way too, you think?
Speaker 2: Or uh, yeah, I think so. Uh you know, obviously
that's gonna there's gonna be a bunch of other hardware
and dependencies there. But I think as long as you
do stuff the way you're supposed to when you're yeah,
that should be fun.
Speaker 4: It'd be interesting because this the Steam machine is obviously
it is a lockdown thing, right, Like there is hardware
that it's like, you know, design to work with the saw,
you know, so that is sort of a lockdown environment.
I wonder what that what changes when you sort of
bring your own per uh perfer uh sorry parts?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. That probably would mostly work. But again,
like we know it's gonna work here, Like this is
the whole point of this thing is you plug it
in and they've done all the work for you. All
the drivers are getting updated in one contained update button
that is going to just tell you when it's ready
to go.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: That's that's been great, like about the steam Deck, but
you expect it on something like the Steam Deck. I
have not expected it on a PC, although I expect
it on the Steam Deck. And then I go use
what the a sous roger or whatever, and they don't
even have that because they have updates from four different
spots and stuff like that. So this is this is
the exciting thing about this is it can be the
Linux box, that can be a desktop over there, but
when you're in the gaming mode, it's a real true
gaming console like experience right in a way that Windows
is just not figured out. They keep talking about it
for years now, talk about it. It's nowhere near.
Speaker 4: That Windows always been playing the game of like walking
like backing into that experience right where this is just
that in mind first and foremost, where you know, every
Windows box you are playing a game on is just
sort of meant to be connected to a monitor, and
that's relatively it. And everyone's sort of being like, all right, well,
this is going to be my living room PC or whatever.
Speaker 1: It is. Like everyone's just used to.
Speaker 4: Dealing with all of the bullshit that comes along with
trying to shoehorn that experience in. So it makes sense.
Speaker 3: I cancel my movavi subscription, thank god.
Speaker 4: Oh good for you, Bud.
Speaker 3: Thanks it's in a few days.
Speaker 4: You were like, I got to give them a credit
card number.
Speaker 3: I think it seems repeatable. Oh.
Speaker 2: I was like mess around with Dreamcast stuff over the weekend.
I got my Magic Dreamcast and I was there's a
tool to like mess with stuff, and it's like, all
right now, if you want to do anything above thirty
two megabytes, you're gonna have to pay. I'm like, that
doesn't sound right, and I went and looked and it's like, yep,
you got the wrong one. Don't get the right one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaking about the dream Cast, Jeff Grub earlier this morning,
to celebrate Fishing Week, you and Mikey played Sega Bass Fishing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was That was a lot of fun, Sega
Bass Fishing on a real Dreamcast with the Sega Bass
Fishing Arcade style controller that has like motion control and
all that stuff, and it's fun. You just you catch
your bass in that game that burns out, turns out,
and you get the different kinds of lures and you
have to sort of learn how to use them where
it's like, okay, the most basic one, you're just doing
the real and that that bait will sort of behave
the way it's supposed to, where it sort of shakes
around and attracts the fish. And then as if you
want to catch bigger fish though, or ones there are
maybe a deeper down in the lake, you have to
use this different kind of lure that requires you to
like okay, yeah, real at a certain pace and then
also flick the stick in a way that makes it
behave like it's a realistically wounded animal or something. Like that,
and dialing that stuff in was was cool. But I'll
jump to the other game that's related to this that
we played on the same stream, a Sega Marine Fishing
jan that is that was almost better because it was
a lot they're bigger fish. You're catching like forty fifty
sixty pound fish, you know, I got a marlin on
the line once I lost it. But that one I
was really able to sort of feel how moving the
controller around and leaning it left or right or sticking
it straight up, so it felt like I'm like really
just pulling it in. And then when this when the
line tension is getting too high and it's about to break,
it's like, okay, I'm gonna let go and sort of
put it down and then let off the reel at
the same time. And I was really beginning beginning to
dial it in and that felt really cool, actually, uh,
really really cool. Yeah, it kind of surprised me how
much that translated over to the experience of it. Oh,
that's why people like these games so much. It really
does sort of do an excellent job of mimicking the motions.
Speaker 3: You would go through while really fishing. Right. Yeah, music
like amazing in those three games.
Speaker 2: Yes, there's some incredible Sega Arcade band house music or
whatever that they put in there, and it's really really
excellent in the mics.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Like then, on Saga Marine Fishing, we went to the
Coral reef and it was just tropical. Mike, you said
it was like that Serenity movie with Matthew McConaughey. Yeah,
it's like, could you kill your wife's new husband on there?
Speaker 3: That'd be great watch that.
Speaker 2: Yes, but yeah, those are those are some classic fishing games,
and I was glad I was able to make them.
Speaker 3: Have but I kind of want to play some more
Saga Marine Fishing. I assume Grub you're going to be
setting up Dreamcast games also on your Steam Machine very soon, correct, Yes, yeah,
I will be curious different peripher stuff and everything, because
I talked to Valve last week and I was asking
questions about like I kind of just assumed I wouldn't
be able to plug in I've got the thrust Master
wheel and everything. I've been using that for FORTSA and
I assumed I wouldn't be able to just plug that
into the Steam Machine and it works, and they were like, no,
that should just work, And You're like anything that works
with Steam. Any like peripheral should work with this thing.
So curious if you're trying to have peripheral stuff and everything,
I don't know if you'll be able to use like,
you know, your fishing thing or something.
Speaker 2: I'll give that sh I did get the adapter for this, Yeah,
the control. Let me try it and see what happens.
Speaker 3: I bet it.
Speaker 2: I bet it works because Valve has done so much
work for Steam input That is another thing where it's
just like, uh, you can, sure you can go play
your things through games through the Epic Game Store or
that Windows store, but if you do, you should probably
still add them through steams so you can use Steam inputs.
So your controllers just work the way you expect them to.
And that's especially actually true for peripherals.
Speaker 1: Speaking about fishing, four of us went down to the
bayou and went fishing in Voodoo Fishing. That video is
now up on the website. We did a little streamy
stream yesterday. I had a lot of trouble figuring out
how to actually play the game. But you boys were
collecting rods, getting lures, getting eaten by miscellaneous monsters and voodomen.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I kept getting taken to heaven
by giant bugs, which was scary.
Speaker 3: I guess Heaven's reels. That's nice, real, it was.
Speaker 1: It was fun.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: There's kind of like a basic loop of oh, you
have some tools here to catch some shitty fish. You
could sell those that make enough money to upgrade your stuff,
and then you can maybe go get some bigger fish.
There's kind of like a scary factor of well, you
can lose some of your upgrades though, because you have
like the starter stuff is all infinite use and like
the better allures you get, well, if you snap the
line or if you get abducted or fall into the
water as you're carrying it, you'll lose all that. You
even lose the fish you've collected so far, dude. So
there are some tense moments. I mean, right at the
end there, I had a cooler full of some of
my best catches. Yet I saw some tentacles, like what
the hell's that? And I was like, don't worry, Mike,
I'll clear the way. I know fish right right. So
I followed you and like they did go away, and
then as soon as you clear and I was behind you,
they came back and killed me, and I like to.
Speaker 2: Kill you buy me and Dan in front of me,
and I was like, well, I was trying to I
was trying to sacrifice myself for the boys, and that
shouldn't work.
Speaker 3: Out very well. I can't believe how mad I was.
I was like, how dare I can't do that to me.
Speaker 2: I could believe it because I felt that same way.
I had a cooler of awesome. I like went away
from you guys. I'm like, I'm gonna go get the
best fish, and I did. I met a voodoo man
and I was I was fishing in the water catching
these excellent fish and they were huge and I was like,
oh my god, I'm getting one that are like twenty
plus pounds and I'm filling up my cooler.
Speaker 3: This is great.
Speaker 2: And I headed back and I got killed by yes,
the plants reaching out to kill me. And I respond
next to you guys, and I was so surly and
I was kind of short with you guys, and then
I uh, I'm like I ran away again and I
tied to me like came back and you guys were
talking about seems kind of upset today, what's wrong with them?
Speaker 3: And I was like, how do I explain I lost
so many fish.
Speaker 2: I don't know why it matters to me, but it does.
Speaker 1: We did it, buddy, we'd understand what you.
Speaker 2: Didn't know what they were worse and now I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, before we found out there was a junk shop,
and we just kept killing ourselves anytime we got too many.
Speaker 1: Bras, Yeah, yeah, yeah, the bolder holders, yeah, holders like.
Speaker 2: I caught a bra and I'm like, this is a
bra and you guys just can't be like, we came
up with five other explanations like no, guys, it's a
boulder holder.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right back week coming never to joint bomback. Turns
out that idea got squashed immediately. It's just like all
of his opponents speaking about playing games multiplayer and together,
grub Minati, myself and Chuck got the chance to check
out the multiplayer in star Fox. Grub you did a
game mess minute yesterday talking about our experience here. But gang,
we didn't quite exert our dominance. It took us a
hot second.
Speaker 3: To get Nintendo didn't go easy, honest, we didn't know
which I mean.
Speaker 2: I'm glad, I'm glad they didn't do them. They were like, wow,
you guys are so good they sent.
Speaker 1: Their shooters after us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, put us on our plates, like you
might be out of jail, but don't forget who the
warden is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was pretty fun, especially, you know, like original
Star Fox sixty four. My recollection is that multiplayer mode
was just dog fighting. It was fun, it was relatively simple,
and here we played two maps, two of maybe three,
I think, but there was an objective and you would
get points by just killing like some of the NPC's
flying around, or you can the enemy get points by
killing somebody on the other team. But then like the one,
it was almost kind of a capture of the flag
is capture the flag, that's what they call it.
Speaker 5: Capture the Yeah, there was like an energy cell that
would spawn in the middle of the map. You had
to grab it and then take.
Speaker 2: It back to your space station thing, and that took
place in the sector why which yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And then like the other one there meteors would
start falling to the Earth and you could shoot the
sort of crashed meteors and collect energy from that. So
you know it's like, oh, now everybody's swarming in this location,
are you gonna do that?
Speaker 3: You're gonna focus on just.
Speaker 2: Killing the other team in that moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it actually I felt pretty good.
Speaker 5: And then there was a bunch of upgrade items, right,
but it could be the bombs, or it could be
like just like a teleport, like a quick short range teleport.
Speaker 2: With a hy button and you can leap forward like
quite a bit. And that's what I did on the
one time where I scored during Capture the Flag after
going through a wormhole and took me to the.
Speaker 3: Other side of the map. Was like, is that our goal?
Speaker 2: It's like, now that's the enemy goal, but I still
I still got back and scored, So I want to
hear good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Someone that doesn't have a lot of experience, if any,
playing Star Fox, I had a lot of fun playing
through that. If anything, it just made me want to
play more of the actual game as well, just because
it was so much fun just riding around in space
and shooting and both things felt good. Also, we got
a chance to check out the virtual game chat avatars
as well, and those were fun. If you were playing
that multiplayer mode, you wind up getting mapped to the
specific character you choose, so I was Fox Grub, you
were with the rabbits, hoppy heppy hair. I'll get to
know them all right. Mike Chuck was Falco and then
Mikey was Slippy.
Speaker 2: Everyone insisted I'd be slippy, and I got it, but
it's still hurt. But it was just like a fun
slippy Yeah. I wish we all could have been slippy.
Of a team full of slippies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, they can't catch, but it was a
fun little wrinkle on like game chat. And I'm interested
to see if, like Nintendo is any interest because I
guess it makes sense in Star Fox because of the
little portraits that pop up in the game right where
like the character's just chatting to you. So I'm curious
if like maybe they'll do another game where you can
have game chat avatars as well. Boys, we got a
lot of games to talk about. How do you feel
about we take a quick break and then we'll get
back with the games and the news. I love that, Okay, okay,
all right, all right, fade and a black Right now,
we're still talking about fishing games. In fact, one more
fishing game. And Jeff Grubb, you've been playing this so
far every morning of fishing week. Oomi gari, Yeah, Umagari
is a Japanese spear fishing game which I thought would
be a change of pace. You have a ship, you
start off on an island.
Speaker 3: There is a.
Speaker 2: Gas station to to gas up your boat, which you
need to do pretty frequently. And there's one man on
this island who I will say looks like a fish.
Doesn't have like scales or anything like that, but it's
facial like ratio is fish like he's got Yeah, see
more fishier than Benedict cumber Batch. Okay, so the around
this area around this island is sort of it's sort
of roped off, and then there's these gates you can
go through, and the gates tell you, oh, you need
to upgrade your ship to like speed level one or
speed level two. You go through there, before like completing
some objectives that might give you a bell that you
can use to scare off some fish, you will be
chased by a giant scary head that will pop out
of the water and eat you. So that that happened
pretty early on. I'm like, this is a different fishing
game than what I was expecting, and it kind of
maybe realized what the tone was much creepier. Uh I
was able to get out of that first area where
I'm basically I was spearing puffer fish and maybe they
just try or tuna, just tuna, and the tuna's worth
like five hundred Yeah, yeah, that's great. Once I was
able to find a bell and use that to scare
off the giant head that was chasing me, I got
to the other side the second area that had this
submerged school, and on top of that school was a
man who was in a schoolgirl uniform who told me
how he was bullied in school and I should catch
the fish around him that bullied him when he was
in school.
Speaker 3: And on the he showed me.
Speaker 2: Three desks that had these accessories on them, like a
hat and glasses or of flowers that you would wear
in your hair. And it's like, okay, go find the
fish that are wearing these things in the school. And
I took the boat around or I explored on foot
and speared them and brought him back to him. Turns
out he was the bully and then he ate those fish.
Speaker 3: As soon as I rocked him.
Speaker 2: But he did give me another bell that I could
use to get to the next area, which is a
submerged mall, and now there is a lady who was
asking me to uh kill an octopus because the man
she's obsessed with is obsessed with octopus. And uh yeah,
and so I have to go find a to go
find this.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm talking fish.
Speaker 1: They're smart.
Speaker 2: I know. I feel bad about all.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 2: I don't know where that's going. I have not done
that yet. Let me just see what my options are.
But I got a deep sea like son art thing
recently from fixing a man who had his jeeps tires
taken away by a bunch of fish. And these fish
are no good.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: These fish have fingers coming out and humans like that
growing like scabs on them. It's rough business for nine
in the morning. Guys, I gotta say, you know, with.
Speaker 3: The spooky fishing and there's this, there's voodoo, there's a dredge,
and there's a lot of snaky fishing. Is that also
exists another like books and stuff is there like totally books.
Speaker 2: I mean they think like like any sort of like
like when I think of like Cape cod or whatever,
like movies like that where it's like, oh it's foggy
and the ocean is so or whatever. It's Yeah, there's this. Yeah,
this endless depth under which you do not know what
is in it, and anything could be aligned like spears surface.
Speaker 3: There could be a sphere in there.
Speaker 2: It could be a sphere down there. Michael cran could
be writing another book down there and you just can't
stop him.
Speaker 3: Only death.
Speaker 1: As you were describing your time in umagari h, I
could easily see someone just assuming that's how you spent
your weekend as well, based on how you're talking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm doing. That's how I live my life.
Absolutely on the boat by myself.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out if I'm going to help
a lady get together with the man instead of an octopus.
I get it, I got it. Fishing continues that games.
That game is pretty cool. It's very basic. It's not
trying to like do more than what it's trying to do.
It's trying to be creepy, and then it's sort of
slapped together to serve that purpose, but in a way
that I find charming.
Speaker 1: Sure the fishing games will continue throughout the week. Do
not worry every body getting back to games that I
you know, this game might have fishing. I have no idea.
I have been checking out the adventures of Elliott the
Millennium tails. Oh this is the game with Philabelphia Bryan. Yeah, yeah,
born and raised gang. This hurts unfortunately, no tailgating so far.
Just orphans, you know, not as fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Lame was the word I was
looking for.
Speaker 1: Exciting at a little bit of a bummer, baby.
Speaker 3: More of a bummer than tailgating orphans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lame orphans, Buffalo chicken dip feeling better, more interesting orphans?
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I wish go find some parents.
Speaker 1: And I wish this game was kind of less of
a bummer and more entertaining. For folks that don't know,
this is a two and a half D action RPG.
It's if you're looking. If you have like an itching
to play a Zelda game, this might satiate that craving.
That being said, it is very, very very talky right
from the joont okay.
Speaker 5: That was my big concern. This was like, stop me
from playing this is Look, I don't mind talkie, sure,
but I just kind of got the idea, like my
BET's kind of bland talkie. It's talking just to hear
yourself talk, right, It's like in that talk I don't
know if you guys know talking heads. It's like in
Psycho Killer, right, like you say something piece of shit, Wow,
I don't have any to say. My lips are sealed.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: You conversation came and finish it.
Speaker 1: I don't like this guy, all right, do you think
you are? Yes, Mikey, this is the type of yappy
and chatty kind for the sake of just filling up space.
Speaker 3: After the first Octopath, Like is that type of like, Okay,
we're saying a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: Here, but yeah, yeah, they're saying a lot of stuff
and it feels like none of it actually matters.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I know, folks feel mixed on alloy being very chatty
or Mamir being very chatty, But you get a Mamir
in this game very quickly, and the way that they're talking,
it feels like the relationship is like longer than it
actually is. Like, Lady, I just met you ten minutes ago.
Why are you saying like, wow, I remember the first
time we opened a treasure chest that was amazing. I'm like, no,
it's not, Oh my god, please stop button through at
least it's it's just like when you were in the Overworld.
It just it's just going as you are adventuring around
and I there are so many well we'll get to
another Zelda inspired game in a second after this. But
the combat, at least where I am so far, it's
very light. You were just pressing a button. There's a
arge attack where you can shoot a projectile. There is
a shield where you can block enemy attacks and they'll
get stunned. But nothing right now from the jump is
grabbing me about Adventures of Elliott the Millennium Tales, and
just like the writing, I cannot get with at all.
It's also funny that everyone has very fancy names like Hitchard,
like Richard, but with a hi in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3: They're just changing one letter. This is you can do
better than.
Speaker 1: That, And the other part is like the one of
your friends is called Eugene, so it's like Eugene, but
the why. So I just don't understand why Elliott has
such a normal name. I'll try and spend a little
bit more time with it, but I'm not really enjoying it.
I already had felt some type of way about two
and a halfty games, and for the combat and this
to be a little light and everyone to just be
talking constantly is just a little annoying. It made me
instead want to circle back to a different Zeld inspired
game that Dan Reikert you have beaten and you've been
Mina the Hollower.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I you know, I talked about it a few
times on this podcast of like how I kind of
fell off and I'd find myself coming back and you know,
just had complicated thoughts on I think a lot of
us here did read Mike's review, and yeah, I think
at the end of the day, I do appreciate that game.
I'm glad I beat it. It is a flawed It
made some design decisions that I think were deliberate, and
they were going for things that led to it being
more frustrating than fun. But to their credit, they also
put in a ton of those accessibility things, so if
you did want to, just like I was stubborn, I
didn't flip any of them on at any point because
I'm just like, I want to be this as intended.
But it's good that they're there, because I mean, there's
really good stuff in this game. I love the look
of the game, even though it's not like a big
GB color guy. I don't know, I think the design
of the dungeons and the characters are great in this
It's great and the way I want, the way it
wraps things up at the end is cool, and that
it like kind of refers back to some of the
actions he took during the game and everything some solid
boss fights. So overall, I am positive on Man of
the Hollower. I don't think it's gonna be like the
top half of my top ten or anything like that, though.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, turning the clock back a bit, and you've
also been playing Twisted Metal five.
Speaker 3: That is not turning the clock back. Jan Oh, that
is a twenty twenty six release. Oh, it's not a
real it's not a real game. It's a fan made game.
So it is one of the more impressive like fan made,
like labor of love projects I've seen. I don't really
know the story behind it in terms of like who
made it if I assume it was a small team
or one person or something like that. But it is
like the perfect Twisted Metal game for me in that
it's got kind of the tone of Twisted Metal two,
just kind of that like World Tour, kind of more
campy than like more campy than like the darkness of
kind of the edgeloord stuff from like Twist Metal Black
and stuff like that. But it's got kind of the
gameplay and car feel of a Twist Meddal black, and
it's got just like all all the stars you know
a Twist Metal are there. And they also added some
like new characters that really kind of fit the lore.
It's voice acted, there's like a ton of stages. There's
a bunch like you know, mid bosses and stuff like that.
It's the second you start playing, it's like, you know,
like when you picked up like the Tony Hawk one
and two or three and four remakes and you're like, yep,
they nailed the feel of this. Yeap, that is what
this was like. As someone who's played a ton of
Twisted Metal, I was like, yep, this is exactly what
I fucking want out of Twisted Metal. A couple of
little rough around the edges of things like you know,
a couple of clipping through the world and things like that,
but overall, like I was, I think I was trying
to rank them on stream, I would say in the
Twist Medal series, it would go two is my favorite,
then Black, then this. I think this fan made game
is probably my third favorite twist of Metal and then
probably twenty twelve four three I think, well head Ons
up there, head On is probably like number four. But yeah,
this is an incredible twist the medal game. They really
I would just search a YouTube for twist Mental five.
There's like a trailer with Mike download links and stuff
like that. Unbelievable work on that, not on the Run
the Rundown. Yeah, yeah, five for five. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm always amazed by people modding a game and that
just fall on making a new entry into it. I
don't know if y'all saw this, but there's a Last
of Us to multiplayer mod that is in development, yes.
Speaker 3: Coming soon, right, it looks pretty neat.
Speaker 1: I think they're planning on it releasing in I believe
September of this year. But yeah, fully multiplayer Last of
Us too. I'd be interested in checking that out with
you boys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be great.
Speaker 1: But getting back to the run of show, we got
a couple special things that we can finally talk about now.
One of those things being the music in Jeff backel
Our's heart because you played Jeff Rhythm Heaven Groove.
Speaker 4: That's right, I'm Giant Bomb's best answer, and I have
the most Rhythm, and therefore I was selected to play
a preview of Rhythm having Group, which I believe a
demo is available now as well, so perhaps you've already
taken it upon yourself to check this game out. But yeah,
this was a part of the Starfux preview that Will
and I went to Manattan for It was great time.
We played a series of the Rhythm sort of mini games,
and we played a multiplayer game as well where we
had I think we had like five people all surrounding
one TV where a clock was headed to zero and
everyone had to grab Everyone took an average control of
an avatar and you had to like grab the cake
right at the zero time, and like you know, and
whoever got it first, whoever had that hair trigger reaction,
was the winner. That was a lot of fun. And
then we tried out a sort of like adventure solo
battle where you are doing where you're playing a character
and you're performing attacks based on how in sync you
are to the beat, and that got complicated very quickly
and the difficulty ramped up at an incredible pace. This
is a really polished package that I was very impressed with.
I can really see myself getting into this very much
looking forward to the final product here. The mini games
were really clever, really cute, and the music's awesome. The
music is intoxicating.
Speaker 3: It is very very.
Speaker 4: Likable and overall, yeah, I had not really played like
the biggest rhythm game from a Nintendo p I know
there's a bunch of these rhythm groove games, but I
was like a big elite Beata Asians, Guy, I love
that shit. Yeah, that's the best, you know, and and
this is definitely scratching a similar itch. Yeah, I was
impressed with how many modes they kind of had. There
was one one, there's one really really interesting. Like you know,
I want to say, like the sort of like depth
and the and the complexity of some of these games
or minigames rather like ramped up in such a way
that you were like, oh wow, I have to like
really pay attention to this miniatorial and really get on
board with kind of like how the rhythm and how
it's teaching you to understand the rhythm because to someone
who just sort of picks it up, you know, the
upbeats and the downbeats, like it's not always what you think.
There's parts of this where you guys complicated as where
like they're blurring out the screen and you just have
to rely on the audio cues and that kind of stuff.
So it's really really sick. I was. I was super impressed.
You know. A part of me was like, man, if
anyone's got like a weird input leg situation, they're gonna
get fucked over in a big way.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, they like the demo says when you
boot it up, like don't look. You can use Bluetooth
headphones if you want. Yeah, don't use Bluetooth headphones. Just
essentially they're saying like it's it's there's such a delay there.
Speaker 3: It will fuck you up.
Speaker 4: The master of Flag the Bluetooth interface, Yes, but yeah,
I was super into it. The multiplayer stuff is really fun.
I could see this being an instant classic in the
uh you know, sort of party games category. Uh, this
some of the stuff. I mean, like there were perfect
strangers in this room with with with Will and I
and we were just ship talking. It was it was great.
Speaker 2: We're never invited back, but it was rarely you showed
up for Giant Bomb.
Speaker 4: That's all we care about exactly, And just like what
Star Wars said, who are you guys representing, and we
said min Max.
Speaker 1: Perfect, this is Sarah Pods, that's.
Speaker 4: A Vader, that's a Hansend. Let's go okay, perfect. But
yeah it was great. It was great looking forward to it.
Check out them. I believe that's it. Now.
Speaker 2: Look the vibe that was doing it for you, because,
like you know, uh, you know my history with Rhythm Heaven.
I love these games, the DS one I played a
ton of, absolute ton of and it was always like, man,
it'd be cool to see these HD. And then you
get the the WEI version, which was also very good.
It's like, man, I wish we get this an HD version.
Now we are, and it's like I said, just crisp looking,
I guess that's all I really want.
Speaker 4: Yeah, crisp in the way that like all cartoons look
in HD, right, like yeah, you know what I mean?
Where that that vectory kind of like smoothness that's really satisfying. Okay, yeah,
everything looks great, and I you know, and I do
think that adds a little bit of polished to a
thing where you are so overly concerned about precision, right,
And it makes a lot of sense. There was this
one Ninja Arrow like deflecting minigame that was like really
really the difficulty just rams up in a way. It
was just like, how am I ever going to get
good at this? So I did see like the sort
of runway for developing the skill there. It sort of
laid out in front of in front of us in
a really sort of satisfying way.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, the way they did it before it was
like you you would do all those like very specific
mini games and then it would culminate in a remix
at the end.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the that's the process.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So so yeah, and you can see how
like once you start layering all those different things together
and suddenly it's like, oh now we're flipping back over here.
Speaker 4: Right, so it turns into that Warrior where sort of
shuffle yeah moment and you know you you sort of
have to like really be on your toes there. And
then I'm really interested to see where that adventure mode goes.
Like that was dope. You know, we'll see, we'll see
how intense that gets.
Speaker 1: But yeah, fantastic other games that we can now talk about,
and this one I'm especially excited. Grub It's makes sense.
The shirts you're wearing because Star Wars Galactic Racer. Some
of you boys check this out. Tell me how the
pods feel.
Speaker 2: I'll just I just played it for like ten minutes
because I was like Mike was coming late for his appointment.
What I played was like, man, that was really good.
And then I was watching over the shoulder. You guys
both got to play a lot more than me. Dan
and Mike, it seems is fantastic.
Speaker 3: It's burnout, right, It's burnout Star Wars and a rogue light,
which is yeah, like I really I was playing a
little bit of like I was already impressed it, like
the story mode, the career mode thing, because it's like
there's a hub world on a planet where like you
are your racer walking around like on your legs as
a person and talking to different characters and stuff like that,
and it's like, Okay, I did a few races. Then
I progressed to the next planet and did some races there,
and I realized, like, oh wait, every time in between
a race, it's sending me back to this like a
click that's like, oh, this looks like Slay the Spire
in between fights where it's like I've got different tracks
here and it's like, oh, I can go here and
do this experimental thing to get this upgrade, or I
can go to the shop and choose this upgrade one
out of three and it's it's a run like you
are doing in like each of the planets is like
a biome basically cool. So that is the thing. Like
I think they really like undersoul to how much was
in this game in terms of like there is a
full Like I think I thought it was just going
to be episode one racer, but again, you know, it
looks better, but then it's like the burnout pedigree and
like realizing the burnout nests of it all with like
the crash cams and all that, and then this extra
roaguelight mode. I feel like every time I look at
this game, there's more to it than I expected. And
then when I got hands on it and I played
it for probably like forty five minutes or so, it
feels fucking awesome.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 3: It's awesome, And that's the roguelide mode, so like you
are kind of customizing like a speeder during that and
there's different like types and stuff and you can make alterations.
But then there's this whole side pod racing mode where
it's just like you are just racing straight up pod racers, Subulba, Tattoin,
all that stuff. And then they had all these other
like different I forgot what they call it, but these
like scenarios mode and everything. So there's a lot of
game here and it feels incredible. So I think there's
gonna be some real legs on this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, super fun it great things, the speed.
Speaker 5: It took me like a second to kind of get
an understanding of the boost system in this. It's like
my big question, like is it gonna be like the
episode one racer boot system where you sort of hold
forward and then you get boost.
Speaker 2: It's not quite that. It's it's it's still kind of
has depth to it. Sort of two boost and the
one is like the one you gain I go burnout
cell you think you're near missus or you're drifting. Then
the other one is this one that I almost kind
of forget exactly how works, but it's the one that
ram jet of the ramjet, that's the one you actively,
that's the one that kind of makes it easier for
you to ram into the other vehicles as well.
Speaker 3: So that one's like always kind of filling up, and
then once it's full, you can choose to hold it
down for as long as you want to. If you
let go, it starts filling back up again. But you
can just kind of like boost for a while. And
then I didn't realize the first time I started hearing
this like beeppp peep, like this obvious war heating, and
then I just blew up and it's like, oh, okay,
that's the risk ward here. It's like this extra boost
you can use whenever, and you can upgrade that between
races and everything, like you can add it so it's like, oha,
it won't overheat as quickly or whatever, but yeah, you
will blow up if you don't listen for the warning
signs and everything exciting.
Speaker 1: Is it purely single player?
Speaker 3: No, no, no'l time online? Yeah? Everything. It's the most
you would ye yeah, yeah, dutiful.
Speaker 5: There's so much personality with like the other racers, like
because you'll get a little calm messages from them, almost Star
Fox sixty four style, right with their little portraits, so
they'll yell at you if you pass them up or
you take them out. Things like that, you know, the
Star Wars of it, the Star warsness of it is incredible,
like the music playing, just how good these locations look.
Just an absolutely beautiful game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like getting upgrades and stuff. It's like, Okay, I
got flamethrowers that shoot out my sides that I can allivate.
Like you're basically adds like the roguelide element, like when
you're picking the different additions to your your speed or
whatever you're choosing, Like I can get this weapon here,
or I can get this thing that. Like I think
the terminology was like you can crash a certain amount
of times before you're wrecked. So let's say you do
a thing and you crash five times, you're wrecked, and
that I assume is like the end of a run.
So you can choose to upgrade kind of your defense
there or get these kind of like dpad activated weapons
and stuff. Plus there's just so much like burnout stuff
that like different paths you can go like not you know,
they're all like kind of loop and they're racetracks, but
like there's parts words. I'm gonna take the high road
here and do like a vertical takedown basically like just
land on another speeder and just watch it blow up.
It's just very very.
Speaker 1: Burned out exactly.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm excited like to play through all the classes,
so that just seem to be one of the ways
they're kind of like adding even more so there's all
the different modes.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like you said, you start with these.
Speaker 2: Like basic speeders they like land speeders, and then there's
speeder bikes and then pod racers.
Speaker 1: Right, are there three classes?
Speaker 3: Maybe if there's pod racers and the main mode, I
think it's like three different ones because they take you
through them in the tutorial. There's the one that like
you can do that like knife edge like drift thing
where the whole thing kind of turns the side and
it looks like very vertical and skinny. Yeah, or you
can just make like a like a tank, like really defensive,
just good for ramming. Yeah. Right, there's a lot of
variety there, right, just gameplay mode and the different crafts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, just got I just looked it up.
It's like pod racers are in the game. Obviously they're
in arcade and multiplayer, but Fuse hasn't explained how they
fit into the campaign's chassis and upgrade system yet, so
we're still waiting to hear them.
Speaker 3: That's three. That sounds like an unlockable fourth class.
Speaker 5: I mean they also seem like so much faster than
the other ones. I wonder they are kind of almost
in their own league.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's how these classes work, That's what
I mean. Like, like your land speeder is like an
early class, and then you complete that, and then you
move on to like the speeder bike. Like you get
the speeder bike, and now most of the other opponents
are going to be on speeder bikes or something equivalently fast.
It seems to be the way it's gonna work.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so excited. Happy birthday to me. Then, gang
last game that I have here is a big reveal
for someone's birthday today. Jersey Chack reveals a new pinball
game today and Jeff Backler what pinball game is? The
reveal today?
Speaker 4: The only video game character that does his best work
when he's not in a video game. Yeah, am I wrong?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Wrong? A video game?
Speaker 2: It's a pinball video game.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's pretty good.
Speaker 4: Yes, I like Sonic Spinball as well, And that's why
we're talking about Sonic the Hedgehog. That's right. This little
blue Freak is getting his own pinball machine, and it
was just revealed today, just an hour and a half ago.
Jersey Jack, which is more of like a mainstream manufacturer. Absolutely,
they put out about one game a year, I want
to say, on average, but they are doing like pretty
much like the nineties to like two thousand's version of
Sonic the Hedgehog in pinball form. I've gotten a look
at it, not earlier or anything, just sort of as
it was announced. It's kind of awesome, guys. I think
they just looking at again. These things always look awesome
and then you have to go play it and see
what it's like. On its face, there is some really
cool stuff happening, including what looks like an entirely clear,
translucent transparent upper playfield, which means like which means like
the upper which means like there's no like, uh, you
could see right through it. And the ball appears like
it's sort of floating on an upper playfield where you
fight Eggman m hm. So it looks like there are
like the three knock boss battles like you have in
the video games. It's pretty sick. It looks like they
did a really good job with this. Steve Ritchie is
a very prolific pinball designer. He designed this game. He
also did their Elton John machine which came out three
years ago, which is a banger.
Speaker 3: Yo.
Speaker 4: The Elton John game is sick.
Speaker 1: Oh I believe it. I didn't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's it's awesome. It's really really awesome. Uh yeah,
we're just checking out the the trailer for this thing
a little it's got it's got a loop. It looks
like they're also trying to emulate like his like spinny
sort of launch move you spindash where they have like
a magnet and it looks like the magnet then kind
of like pops it out. There's uh in that upper
playfield there's also like a red and a yellow spring.
Speaker 3: It just.
Speaker 4: Look thematically. Obviously it seems like they obviously nailed it.
Like you said, there is a loop. Also, that upper
playfield kind of has like these criss crossing rails. That
does remind me of of Sonic Spinball a lot. I
don't know if that's call out to that a little bit,
but that.
Speaker 5: Was the person a robotic like NeSSI come from under
the water to try to grab you when you get
towards the bottom.
Speaker 4: That would be awesome, but then the ball would also
have to transform into sonic himself, and you would have
to like jump at the last minute to not get
your butt nipped by that thing. But I know who's
gonna be brave enough to have that pinball transform into.
Speaker 5: A It's it like a pretty sacred thing. I saw
someone in chap like, oh, is the pinball blue? And
I was like, oh, of course not, it's not. I
also like, don't know why, but it seems like they
never do anything with the pinball itself. The pinball is
always regulation, it's always super right, it's sacred.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it might be sacred. I mean, look like at
this point, I am surprised no one has gimmick gimmicked
that up, Like you could just do that analyzed, you know,
coloring on on a chrome ball. I don't know. I
mean maybe because that's not like paint, right, You're sort
of like dying aluminum right when you do that paint.
Obviously that would chip and right, of course, and maybe
it wouldn't have the same impact as like the sort
of like baby blue paint, right, because whenever you die
things like that, it's you know, who knows. I don't
know the reason there's got to be one for it.
But yeah, this is this looks all right now.
Speaker 2: Again it's one of the quests for him to kiss
a human woman because if not, I'm not playing.
Speaker 4: Yeah it's it's it's weird. It's kiss a human woman
while eating four hundred chili dogs.
Speaker 3: Oh I wanted to right now, so you.
Speaker 4: Know, I don't know. Look, I can't make any promises.
I'm gonna do my best to try and get this
for for Pinball Week. No promises, I just because people
have already asked me. And also thank you to the
dozen people who tagged me as if I did not
know this was happening. I love you, guys, I really do.
If it's pinball, I probably know about it. I respect
the effort though, thank you for tagging me. I'm aware,
I appreciate it, and.
Speaker 3: I love you.
Speaker 4: It's okay because they're not going to hear this, so anyway,
Uh yeah, I'm gonna do my best. Uh this is
You know a lot has changed since I got into
the pinball game. There's there's now people who are like
died in the Wool pinball influencer people, but none of
them are Giant Bomb. Okay, some of these fuckers are
giant bomb. So yeah, we'll see how it goes. I'm
going to try and get my hands on one.
Speaker 2: Of these, and he promised he would. Yeah, I heard that.
Speaker 4: I said, I promise I will make the efforts.
Speaker 1: Are you going to disapproach your son?
Speaker 4: Well, he doesn't know, can't hurt him. Number one? Number
two Also, that's right, Sorry, Mike, my other son. You're
my favorite. Don't worry.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: And then also people in chatter are saying, what's the problem.
It's New Jersey. So just just to be clear, Jersey
Jack left New Jersey. There now in pinball mecca, which
is the Chicago.
Speaker 3: It's just like the Chicago Bears, but an opposite.
Speaker 4: Yeah, at some point they all conspired and we're like, hey,
Chicago's really where all the pinball action is happening. So
we named our pinball company Jersey Jack. But I guess
we're just gonna be Jersey Jack in Illinois.
Speaker 2: Now, which is fine via Illinois.
Speaker 4: Yeah, via Illinois. Uh, Yeah, what do you I mean?
You guys see this video? What do you think?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: You know, it's like a part of me that doesn't love,
Like there's kind of the generic like Sonic key art
looks almost I just associate with kids children parties. Right,
It's like the same ship that they just put on
the paper plates.
Speaker 3: You know, they're like checking.
Speaker 4: It for you, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Look, that part looks a little cheap, like just like
Sonic with pubes.
Speaker 4: That's it. You just want you want.
Speaker 3: Big care for some pub car just s hays hair.
Speaker 4: He's an animal, right right, whatever whatever you gotta tell yourself.
Speaker 1: Brother spines, does he have like pubic spines?
Speaker 3: Like? Oh right, I like some of those.
Speaker 4: Those should be softer, right, okay, So okay, here are
the things that just jumping out of me I think
are interesting. Number One, there's also these like led animated
LED lights that are on different parts of the of
the playfield. I've never seen that before really, And they're
in the shape of the rings. Like that's pretty neat.
I wonder how that's good. It's probably also gonna be
like uh used to like direct the sort of like
the targeted shots, right, Like that seems really fun. You
could animate more things in there. Again, I've not really
seen that. I am a little concerned about the upper playfield,
it being this what is presumably a piece of like
acrylic plastic, Like, it's that gonna get scuffed up over time?
Are we gonna have problems with like visibility because they
have that layer of plastic there or whatever the material is,
and then you are meant to see through it, of course,
because there's other shit going on in that, you know,
underneath that that upper playfield. So this is this is
just look, everyone has taken some chances. Now everyone is
doing what they can to make their game the wackiest
and most sort of risk taking a thing they can do. So, I,
on its face, pretty sick, you know. I thought Transformers
looked really good in the trailer, and then Mikey when
we got to play it out sgef. I think that
kind of convinced me like, hey, this is a good game.
This is a yeah, it's gonna have fun, you know.
And again, these games evolve, right, the code gets updated,
the objectives change, the they sort of finesse and fine
tune the whole experience. Yeah it's cool, you you know.
The the objective trajectories is Green Hill, Chemical Plant, Rooftop
Run City, Escape, Speed Highway, Sky Sanctuary, Seaside Hill.
Speaker 3: They got Sky Sanctuary. That well, that's got the great bomb?
Speaker 2: Can I stay at my new VMU?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to put in your GameCube memory card
for zero A.
Speaker 3: Do you have an idea? How happy that would make
me mine? I know you would like that.
Speaker 5: I saw you put your memory card into it zero
and it was the happiest.
Speaker 3: I was very happy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is cool. I mean, this is certainly like
giving me a little bit of the I'm getting the
fields here. I'm getting there excited so far. No, we'll
see how it goes. But yeah, I think it's out. Now.
How much do you think it starts at?
Speaker 3: Dan?
Speaker 4: How much do you think it costs?
Speaker 3: Pinball machine?
Speaker 4: This one? This entry level, the base level. I think
they call it the arcade version. How much do you
think that is?
Speaker 3: Five thousand dollars? All right?
Speaker 4: Who else? Anyone else?
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of these go?
Speaker 2: The entry level one I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say
the entry level one, I will say eighty five. Now
I'm gonna say.
Speaker 4: Nine thousand, nine thousand, any other guesses.
Speaker 3: I've never bought a pinball machine. I have no idea.
Speaker 4: I really respect Flying Toaster and Chad who put up
fifteen hundred.
Speaker 1: Okay, no.
Speaker 4: The first one of the entry level arcade is ten
thousand dollars, okay, and then it, believe it or not,
it goes up from there, folks. The oh no, The
next step up is twelve thousand in the Collector's edition,
which is like all the fancy cosmetics and the and
the shiny powdered coating and all the cool toys and everything.
That is fifteen thousand dollars.
Speaker 5: Hey, yea, thanks and thanks to uh colling Hemphill's Blake
Club on authorized pages.
Speaker 2: New exchange rate cube before exchange rate thing.
Speaker 5: I know that that expensive one costs twenty seven point
two seven cube wares.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: That's insane. Is pretty expensive. It's the pillows. Nobody knows.
Speaker 4: But man, I think I'd like this all right, But yeah,
there you have it. So again I uh putting out
some feelers here. We're gonna see if we can make
this happen. I have not had it going up my
cube before.
Speaker 2: You getting some value for five hundred and forty nine
dollars and nine nine cents right now for.
Speaker 3: A cube before complete.
Speaker 4: Wow, So it was a speculative buy. Good job, good job, Mikey.
Speaker 1: This is my son.
Speaker 2: This is my boy crowd dad, twenty six seven, four
of them. We can get you that.
Speaker 3: Big ball machine.
Speaker 4: Holy holy yeah, I've not had one of these in
the house in a minute. These are heavier too, They're
like way heavier than these days in a Jersey Jacks machine. Yeah,
the Jersey Jack and the last one. I was like,
I think guns and roses and that was pretty cool.
But they're big boys. They're like three hundred pounds love
Lee anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at before that. How many keep forces?
Speaker 2: Eight hundred pounds more than twenty seven?
Speaker 3: But I don't know.
Speaker 2: Foreign currencies? Wait, actually does holy shit, what's your pounds?
Speaker 1: Pounds?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can do it in any currency.
This thing's crazy. Many argent weighs?
Speaker 3: Wait wait pounds that?
Speaker 4: No one, come on, you're disappointing your dad now, god god, wow.
Speaker 2: I tell you how many.
Speaker 3: Freaking what what do we hit? Oh man?
Speaker 2: These are some weird countries. I mean, no countries did
the money was called.
Speaker 5: I didn't know about the vana tu vatus.
Speaker 1: Well you know this, this exchange rate is all news
to me. And Jeff Grubb has news for your.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the news, everybody, that's right, we're dancing because
it's Rhythm Heaven Groove demo season. But first it's a
news story about that thing we talked about, so we
won't go too much into it. Valve puts a one
nine dollars starting price on the Steam machine. That is
for the five hundred and twelve gigabyte version. The two
terabyte model is thirteen forty nine. Now, neither of those
come with the controller. If you want the bundle with
the Steam controller, which if you're getting one of these
and you were, well, maybe I'll buy it later. No,
like I said, the Steam controllers sold out through twenty
twenty seven, or until twenty twenty seven, I should say,
if you want the bundle with the controller, of the
five hundred and twelve gigabyte version is one eight and
the two terabyte model is one four hundred and twenty eight,
so you get a little bit of discount on the controller.
I guess those numbers are large. Yeah, you're big, Yeah,
for a lot. What about the weird countries? How much
does it cost in the weird countries? I know, I
gotta ask Mike, what are the weird countries again? You
said Cape Verde or what?
Speaker 5: Yeah, there are no weird countries. Everybody, come on, that
sounds problematic. Everybody loves the Albanian lek currency or the
rubin florin. Okay, I'll just stop all over ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now you.
Speaker 1: Started listing him.
Speaker 2: It sounds like maybe you do think those are weird.
Speaker 4: No, it is a lot for less than the price
of ten steam machines. You could have the arcade version
of sound like the hedgehog pinball that is cool.
Speaker 2: Or over a bunch of cube befoors for the game cue.
The choice is yours fault of folks, not a bunch
you have like two didn't put in perspective, but I
converted the stea price to cube before two point zero eight.
Al Right, okay, so this price is for obvious factors.
The ai uh ram price is going crazy, but also
storage prices.
Speaker 3: How one laugh when brings that up?
Speaker 4: That is funny, man surprise that hasn't become a thing yet.
Maybe give us some more time.
Speaker 2: Yeah wait, just wait.
Speaker 3: You're reviewing all of my peers uproariously laughed when I
talk about the reasons it's expensive.
Speaker 9: It was just the way you said war war when
you brought up war war tariffs, Samon, you're no no,
yeah journalism baby, yeah yeah, you took good.
Speaker 2: Valve got a little carteled here by the RAM manufactor,
of which there's basically just three s k Heinex, Micron,
and Samsung, And like I said, they all kind of
gave it, gave Valve, take it or leave it prices,
which is not something you want to hear. You want
to hear those companies competing for business. They don't care
because they're sewing so much stuff for AI. They don't
care to compete, which is obviously the problem here. That's
what leads to these very high prices. Now it is
we're pointing out that right now the PS five Pro,
which got a price increase recently, didn't get a price
increase to this amount, and it's still less than this
and much and much more powerful, actually significantly more powerful.
Speaker 3: So the question would be, with this price.
Speaker 2: Out there and knowing where the consoles are at right now,
does this change your guys's opinion on what next gen
consoles might cost. And I'll throw it out there, there
is a I'll make it make a part of this story. Apparently,
maybe that PlayStation six could still come.
Speaker 3: Out at the end of the next year.
Speaker 2: That's what an insider who was on NeoGAF who tr
like AMD stuff said, like, Oh, there's no reason that
they're going to delay it because they've done all the work,
they have all the engineering done, they've got the you know,
they're spinning up the manufacturing. It would be a lot
of work to delay it. So this thing could still
come out at the end of twenty twenty seven. If
APS six comes out in twenty twenty seven, with this
price in mind, with the price of the current consoles
in mind, what do you.
Speaker 3: Guys expect to pay?
Speaker 5: Is there a way it's below a thousand, because that's
kind of what I'm absolutely bracing for at this point
to see one thousand or more.
Speaker 1: I can see it being upwards to like twelve hundred,
which is the price I see chat throwing around. Well,
it feels insane.
Speaker 2: I think the fact that like so many people do
expect it to be between one and twelve hundred dollars
means the companies will think we should try to get
away with that.
Speaker 3: It's still though, it's crazy, like.
Speaker 2: You're actually leaving behind a lot of people who aren't
in our chat and like know what this is, Like
we saw the reaction to the steam det machine pricing.
Now the steam machine is gonna sell out because it's
in very limited quantities. Yeah, but you know they're gonna
be like, Okay, we can get away with this.
Speaker 4: So this, this is a calculus without any sort of
assumption of a sort of like regulation in the in
the in the economy.
Speaker 1: And sort of a return to regularity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I mean maybe, like what do you think
can happen between now and the end of twenty twenty
seven or really not a whole lot right now, in
like a year from now, So like in the middle
of twenty twenty seven, because that's when they're really gonna
have to finalize a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 4: I'm still paying eight dollars for cream cheese, okay, yeah,
and exactly and like that, I'm sure found some level
of regularity, but these motherfuckers are like, they're still going
to pay eight dollars, Like we should just keep it.
Speaker 3: At their dollars.
Speaker 2: If your cream cheese costs zero point zero one cubivores, okay,
that's all right. I could live with a little crazy.
So yeah, like right now, the big concern probably still
is inflation because we've been dealing with inflation for five
six years now. It was starting to get under control,
and then we did start a war, as Dan told
us about, and yeah, that's inflation back up. The left
of the decimal place number for inflation was at four percent.
Speaker 3: Again, it's a four. That's real.
Speaker 2: That's twice what they want it to be. And we
were kind of getting down to three and kind of
getting it in the range of two. And the fact
that it's back up to four, people are like, hope,
we'll be hoping this is a temporary shock. The last
time we heard stuff like that was in the middle
of the pandemic, and everyone's like, this is a temporary shock.
The number is going to go back down, and then
it just did not. So there's kind of no reason
to assume that these things will calm down other than
the fact that maybe people are running out of money,
which like proposes its own problem for these consoles that
are going to be very expensive to make.
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's just so it's going to be so
interesting to see how they do with that high price.
It's going to be harder than ever to really make
them seem sexy and interesting and like a big upgrade
from a PlayStation five or you know, PlayStation five Pro.
Are they going to really have PlayStation six exclusives year
of that console?
Speaker 3: Probably not.
Speaker 2: That's I think that's the answer here is the PS
six is a new PS five Pro, and like it's
a PS five Pro Pro Pro or whatever. You just
you throw it in there and and then you keep
the PS five base model going for as long as
you possibly can, and just about every game comes out
to all of these things. There may might be like
one two exclusives for PS six, but I just kind
of don't see the reason to do that when you
have to, like you're clearly gonna have to keep supporting
the PS five for quite some time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I guess this is a larger question that
I do have a friend who's an economist. I should
ask her what she thinks. But absolutely I just think
like what I can't can what I continue to not
be able to wrap my head around, and this is
beyond our games, is not any small demographic by any stretch.
You just don't get how like people continue to just
spend the money right where more people like paycheck to
paycheck than ever before in American history.
Speaker 2: Credit card that's bad right now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, how how can that be? How can it be?
Are people just taking out like insane loan like still
credit debts and loans, but how do you get the
like because if they're giving out loans for the bullshit loans,
that's its own epidemic. So what what's going on the
answer as well.
Speaker 1: Yes, I see a lot of people around like my
age and younger being completely fine throwing something on services
like Affirm or Klarna or like paypals like pay later
thing or paying for or whatever just because they they
just want that hit a dope at me now and
they'll worry about the money ask later yep.
Speaker 2: And you know, like Klarna and pay later on PayPal,
that stuff is actually interest free. But what it does
is you suddenly you have ten of those things going
and you're looking like on pay day. You're getting hit
over and over and over again, and you didn't realize it.
And that's where it really kind of pot piles up
for people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I didn't realize I have like a couple
acquaintances in my life that are not only getting like
electronics and stuff right like a PS five pro or
whatever else and just throwing that on those services. But
they're also doing that for travel because like some airlines
will also throw on their tickets on services like Klarna
or whatever pay later services just because they don't care.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and people like you know, like it feels like
risk free because even if you you miss it, Klarna
has like said, we're never gonna Maybe they've changed. I
remember when I talked to them years ago when I
was like, well you could do this for an xbox?
Speaker 3: What the fuck is this?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, what if you don't pay, are you
gonna like siddenly, it's gonna be bad on your credit part,
Like we don't think it's worth hitting people's credit for
a small purchase like this, Okay, but yeah, it's still
personally it's going to add up, and it has that.
That is the reporting right now is that stuff is
adding up for people. Pay later is adding up for people.
And credit card debt is extremely high. As of June
twenty twenty six, total US credit card debt sits at
a historic high of You guys want to guess the number,
sure number total US credit card debt? You guys want
to guess what the total US credit card debt is
for the United States?
Speaker 3: Billion?
Speaker 2: How many it's Mike telling me how many q cubivorce
is one point two five trillion dollars?
Speaker 3: There you go, okay, one point two five.
Speaker 2: I can't do a point five? How many zeros would
that be? Okay, I work on that nine something. Yeah,
but you got the two five is the two hundred
and fifty billion part of it? So yeah, yeah, that's bad.
That's gonna add up here pretty soon. All right, well
he's doing that, let's start this next story. Sony appears
to be retreating from POC ports of single player PlayStation games.
As Jason Tryer was reporting, we kind of knew this.
Speaker 3: Was gonna happen.
Speaker 2: But they put out a financial report with the SEC
where in that report from the previous year they talked
about PC ports and how that's one of the ways
they're going to make more money. In those most recent report,
that reference has been removed. They don't say that anymore. Uh,
And I think that there's been more reporting of like,
don't think of this ever like a case by case basis.
This is a pretty across the board thing. So ghost
to yote, no plans to bring that to PC right now.
And this does go back to the conversation we're just having.
This is how they're gonna sell PS six is is
they will try to have some games that are only
available on PlayStation going forward.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I my read on this is like they kind of
said that they didn't see the sales that they were
hoping for, so it doesn't make as much sense. We're
gonna flip it back to being exclusive so we can
keep things, keep the games feeling special, and also maybe
not worry about trying to port games for that are
like to sell two hundred thousand copies or something on PC.
But I think there was probably an execution issue of
like waiting so long for a lot of these games
that they could have done better on PC had they
come a little bit quicker, so they decided to break
in the other way. But yeah, we've talked about this
a bunch. This is not that surprising at this point, right, Guys.
Speaker 1: No, it's a bummer just because how my gaming habits
have changed. I will more often hope and want stuff
to be on PC first than like booting up a
PS five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely was waiting for PC or PC versions
a lot of those games. Yeah, by the way, the
US credit card debt is two million, two hundred and
seventy two thousand, seven er and sixty eight point six
Cuba of Wars.
Speaker 1: Wow, man, not so bad.
Speaker 3: Probably many that convention somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll start collecting them. GTA six pre orders begin
June twenty fifth, That is in two days, as Rocks
reaffirms the November nineteenth to date. That feels very feels
very real at this point.
Speaker 3: Now what ye what's the pre ordering now? Why?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean I think this is a game that is
so big that it will reach an audience of people
that have not been a part of that never preorder
games conversation. Remember, like we all decided, like why would
you pre order, especially a digital game that doesn't make
any sense? A lot of people are just I don't care.
I want to just know I have this thing. Whatever
that means to them. Yes, I remember that.
Speaker 5: It's their gratification we were talking about a bit ago.
Some people get that from pre ordering. It's almost like
they bought Grand Theft Auto six already. That's exciting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you could preload stuff like that's so
you'll be able to play it at midnight, right, That's like,
is that the thing yeah, I mean, this is this
I'm not going to be pre ordering this game. Yeah,
but I bet I will find people in my life
who have this is a game where it will break through.
Speaker 3: Actually do that.
Speaker 5: I was hanging out with like my normy friends yesterday
and like they were asking me about GTA six, like
is it really going to be coming out this year?
I'm like, yeah, it's probably coming out this year, don't worry.
Speaker 4: I have to tell a lot of Barbers about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The Barbers are all the people that care about barbers.
Speaker 1: It's tta people.
Speaker 4: Did Barbers not me.
Speaker 1: That?
Speaker 4: I don't even the dars, yes, the Darbers of the Marble.
Speaker 2: Weirdly, GTA five is getting a free current generation upgrade
situation like just now where if you have the PS
four and Xbox One versions, it will now move you
up to the PS five and Xbox Series versions without
an additional purchase. Uh. I guess, like what do you
guys think that's about? I guess that maybe that is like, oh,
if you were going to go buy a PS five
in an Xbox Series right now because you want to
have it for PS or for grandraft on A six,
excuse me, Well, we'll give you the upgraded version just
to have something to play and until that happens, is
that kind of.
Speaker 4: What this is gotta be something else under the hood.
Speaker 3: Maybe, right, social club that thing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, are they install on your consol now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're not gonna love them, like, but I'm gonna
try to Vinci and would be like it's no MOVAVI.
Speaker 4: Was Yeah, I bet it's like some uh, it's an
easier path for upgrading to six, I bet right, Like
there's gonna be maybe some sort of in game hurdle
you must bypass, right, Like it.
Speaker 2: Could be like some like period where like, hey, we're
not gonna have Grand Theft Online two or whatever that
looks like ready to go for six months. So yeah,
you can keep playing that with your upgraded version, so
you feel like you're still getting something new for that
new hardware you bought while also playing Grand Theft Auto
six the story mode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess. I think there's probably more to this that
we're gonna wait to see and and a lot of
that will be explained maybe on June twenty fifth, as
they start to fully explain like what we can expect
from this game. Games Revenue passed two hundred billion dollars
while layoffs continue. That's up nine point one percent. This
is according to nw zoo. That's up nine point one
percent from the year before, So revenues are up now
most of that money is mobile. Mobile generated one hundred
and thirteen billion dollars of that, but the fastest growing
segment was PC that is up twelve percent. Mobile very stagnant,
not making a lot.
Speaker 3: Of new money.
Speaker 2: It's the same people playing Candy Cross Saga as always.
So console gaming was at forty four point seven billion,
PC at forty three point six billion.
Speaker 3: Of course, all that could.
Speaker 2: Slow down as fewer people are able to get into
the hub because all those things are getting more expensive,
and maybe mobile just grows bigger by sort of attrition
and being able to outlast those other ones. Yeah, while
more money going into the industry, of these companies continue
to find ways to cut jobs. Yeah, obviously it's not
as simple as that, but it does feel like, man,
that's a big number, and it's weird that we kind
of can't keep people around making games. EA just laid
off people recently. Let's see, they have their third round
of layoffs this year. It affected their Hyderabad Studio and yeah,
that which included some people in customer support and stuff
like that. And there's obviously been a list of other
layoffs happening alongside this. Tencent is reportedly backing away from
several Japanese studio investments. This is something we've kind of known.
Bloomberg reports that Tencent is negotiating exits from a number
of minority investments in Japanese developers, potentially including Marvelous. Some
stakes may be sold back to management at a loss
as Tencent redirects capital toward user generated and continuously updated content.
Tencent has not publicly confirmed the report. We've seen this
from both Tencent and net Ease, where they made a
lot of investments in Japanese studios and suddenly just said
we don't want to do this anymore. It's weird because
it just seems like Japanese studios have a good grasp
on things, and I just wonder if they're like, well,
we can get the same thing from like local Chinese
studios and put that stuff out globally. We saw we
were able to do that with several other games or
various other maybe more affordable Asian countries like where Stellar
Blade came from. Let's say, hey, we could do one
of those and not have to worry about paying Japanese developers.
But I don't know, It's not like it's super expensive
in Japan either. I mean that's been kind of stagna
for a while.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What do you guys make of this tenset sort of
retreating from investing in these games.
Speaker 1: I I am always confused by every single business move
Tencent makes. I agree, it's yeah, I can't imagine it
is that much cheaper to develop a game outside of
Japan if they want to stick within like the Asian
market and everything. I'm just curious because it feels like
you would have to do I excuse my ignorance here,
folks at home, but I'm assuming you would have to
like teach up more foundational knowledge of some game development
in these other countries that may be cheaper versus in
Japan where they have may have a little bit more experience.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I'm trying to understand more about like the
sort of asset reallocation, right, like towards user generated and
continuously updated content, Like is there any specificity there?
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. Yeah, I was I was wondering the
same thing. I mean that we do know generally speaking,
that all of these companies are leaning into the user
generated content in a.
Speaker 3: Crazy way where that's like if the future is let.
Speaker 2: The audience make the stuff and then we get the
money somehow.
Speaker 5: Tim sweeney is still is talking once again about like
we want these assets and yeah, these characters and micro
transactions and cosmetics to show up in other games, as
if that's the thing anybody has actually excited about or
cares about.
Speaker 3: Our things would make anything better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is just weird because this check keeps pointing
out again, is that an all time low basically, which
would I believe mean making stuff in Japan and selling
it elsewhere would be a big win.
Speaker 3: And if you're a.
Speaker 2: Company that's your whole thing like that, you can afford
to pay a lot more developers with the same amount
of money now in Japan. So it's just there must
be something else going on here where these companies just
don't don't want this business for whatever reason. And it
does seem like the siren song of these other ones
of we are going to focus on our big live
service games, and maybe we don't think that's what we're
going to get out of Japan right now, unless it's
on mobile, which obviously that's sort of saturated at this point.
All Right, last couple of stories here. Nintendo is raising
prices for Switch Online in Japan. Beginning July first, Nintendo
will increase Japanese Switch Online prices. A twelve month individual
membership rises from twenty four hundred yin so that was
in the past before the recent conversion around twenty four
dollars per year three thousand yen. The family plan goes
from forty five hundred yen to fifty eight hundred, so
around sixty dollars now. Expansion pack plans also increase. South
Korea's receiving corresponding changes, while Nintendo has not announced a
Western increase yet. Yeah, these prices on services like this
have gone up just about everywhere, but we've not seen
NSO go up yet for us. They've raced it in Japan.
Is it just a matter of time before we get hit?
Speaker 3: Guys? In Like? How much time is that?
Speaker 1: How many canovoors is it?
Speaker 3: Though? In time?
Speaker 5: I can't five voys at a time yet not yet, we
don't have been. But no, I think it's coming. I
think they're going to increase the price of NSO over.
Speaker 2: Here, especially like the next time there's a big console
added to it, they might use that as the.
Speaker 3: Excuse, right, That's what I'm rank.
Speaker 5: Also, they've made so quiet on it, and like in
general with the console stuff, I feel like they haven't
added any games forever. But the thing they've done was
the Donkey Kong Chow, which is his need and all that,
but where my GameCube games.
Speaker 1: I feel like the a price increase for NSO would
be for sure coming next year. I don't know why.
I'm thinking it'd be tied or linked to the new
Pokemon game, but I feel like it would be.
Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if they come up
with some plan for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does feel like bye next year, for sure
we're going to be paying more, but maybe before the
end of this year even And then finally, RESTful trails
to the composer and designer who did Wolfenstein three D.
Speaker 3: God. I had his name written down somewhere. Let me
look it up. I'd meant to have it here. Doom composer,
nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 2: Yes, there we go, Yes, Robert Bobby Prince Bobby Prince.
He did the original song that you might be remembering
from Doom, but he also worked on Wolfenstein. He did
pass away recently, so wrestful trails to him and condulence
to his family. And then finally, happy birthday to maud
nicol Laus.
Speaker 3: Happy birthday, Happy birthday.
Speaker 1: Happy.
Speaker 3: That does for the news jam back over to you, folks.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take another quick pricky break and we'll be
back with emails, YouTube, super chats and grub guesser right after.
Speaker 10: They for the show.
Speaker 4: Emails.
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I've been saying this for the last couple of weeks,
last couple of months. Thank you everyone for writing in.
We've been getting in a lot of fun emails. Apologies
if your email doesn't make it on this show, but
don't let the discourage you. Grant writes in to celebrate
fishing Week. Hey, Jan, here are some fishing related names
y'all could use for the BombCast for Fishing week.
Speaker 3: So wow, fuck.
Speaker 1: Sway for it, Mikey, don't remind me about YouTube this time.
I'm sorry, Mike, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Don't send your dad after me.
Speaker 2: Hey, everybody's Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Welcome to join Bobcast.
Speaker 1: It's June twenty third, twenty six. I'm your host, Jan
loach Oa joining me as always co captain of the ship.
Jeff Chub He's swarm, he's navigating the seas. We've got
Dan Pike Arta. We also have Jeff backa Loure and
the The Bad Call of Games Media, Mike min T.
Thank you for that lovely, lovely, lovely, lovely good work,
Ethan writes in sut Bomb Daddies. My kids both made
me game theme cards this here happy father's Happy f
Day with a legally distinct undertailed pixel heart and also
test some paper craft art piece with moving parts that
reveal a detailed sectory themed f Day message. Uh. Incredible
and none of this would be possible without the positive
influence of this website on my children. Thank you for
all you do Ethan Happy Father's Day. If you guys
need to see the little art his kids made. Ethan's
kids made, uh pasted it in the doc over here.
Speaker 3: Very very cute. Gatch out kids.
Speaker 1: Next email comes from Cooper in San Jose. Hey, folks,
who's one actor, director, or creative artist you would like
to see added to Kojima's human men Agerie. I think
Ron Perlman would be thoroughly confused by the whole affair
and yet enjoy every minute of whatever he would be doing. Happy,
Pride and love y'all, Cooper in San Jose.
Speaker 3: I just wrote down the first five that come to mind.
Speaker 4: Does Kajuma deserve it?
Speaker 3: Though no work with these? We got Adam Driver, Yeah,
Emma Stone, Show, del Toro, Matt Johnson from Nirvana, the
Band of the Show, and Brendan Fraser. Oh that's good.
Speaker 4: I think Emma Stone already has the weird filled right.
Speaker 2: Has Clancy Brown ever been in a Kojima?
Speaker 4: I would?
Speaker 3: I would Brown, Mike said Bogonia. There's no way Mike's right.
Speaker 1: He knows about it. I know, Oh, I it.
Speaker 3: Doesn't seem like a Mikey movie to me. No, but
I know about it.
Speaker 4: Exists is that what you're saying.
Speaker 2: There was a trailer for it in front of that
movie me but the guy lived the toys r Us.
Speaker 3: Yeah that was a good movie. Movie.
Speaker 2: Is that the one with Channing Tatum? Yeah?
Speaker 3: He was great in it.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, the coverse.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think John Malcovich should be in the koach ofverse.
Speaker 1: I want Dan Brown, the author of the DaVinci Code Angels.
Speaker 3: No, he's I'm gonna say something cursed here, Jonathan Blow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely, many roof bands.
Speaker 3: The movie. It's a real movie. Everyone, it's good. You
should watch it.
Speaker 1: All right here, let's see moving down the emails. Rick
from Minneapolis rites in what is the better mechanic for
a grappling arm in a video game? Using it to
pull enemies closer to you or using it to pull
you closer to enemies?
Speaker 3: Swingingsmber one, I assume that's assumed?
Speaker 1: Sure, right?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know it's even though like the
get over here is so iconic. It's great for that
and Mortal Kombat. I think it's generally more fun when
you kind of zip to the person and.
Speaker 2: Then you can like and then you can like do
a you put your leg out and you do a
kick into that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's such a great fuck you just like, hey,
I'm right on your ass and I'm plus.
Speaker 2: It's movement, like yeah yeah, movement, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: I like like when it's like environmental puzzle. I have
to get across this like chasm. I'll grap a hook
onto this person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, that's better. Yep, Rick from Minneapolis. I
hope you understand that this is a very movement heavy
website where you know, we gotta we gotta get that
moving still. Travis Andvario rights center with five questions. I
choose one of them. Travis writes in and asks, are
you surprised video game companies don't employ more marketing gimmicks
to boost sales. I'm thinking Willie Wonka style golden tickets
and game cases, et cetera.
Speaker 5: Get yeah, a million dollars did a claim ruin that
for everybody? When they went too far with stuff like
change your name to tur Rocker crimes, I forget.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were. They did a lot of wild things.
Speaker 2: I would here's an idea, make a heal themed game
and hire some fake protesters, uh to go out there
and pretend that they're against your game because it's about it.
Speaker 3: Oh right, yeah.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: They did a million dollar pitching thing, The Perfect Game
with MLB twenty eleven, where EA fucked over Stevie Richards
when he provided proof that he was the first one
to do it, but the contest didn't officially start yet,
even though in previous years it started when the game
came out. So got screwed out of a million dollars
from EA.
Speaker 1: Oh that sucks, yeah, Stevie Richards.
Speaker 4: Jeez. I guess I'm not surprised that they do it
that they don't do it, because I don't think they
I think they realized they don't need to. Yeah, yeah, right,
I think that stuff is just falling out of favor
in a unproductive way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you have a.
Speaker 2: Dante Inferno one where they sent a game journalist like
two hundred dollars and they were hell like like if
here's a two dollard dollar check for greed or I
think that was Dante's Inferno, right, yeah, I think's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the sins yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the journals out there like burning their checks
and stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah they Yeah. I remember Christente. Yeah, he
like went out to his grill and burnt it.
Speaker 1: Yeah cool.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, if I if I had, if I gone
that check like who we're testing your green mic, I
was just like, I'm going to cash it in and
take your money.
Speaker 3: I think people online.
Speaker 4: Would be mad at me, not you specifically, because then
back then.
Speaker 5: The people might not have understood and people may be like, wow,
you're greed. If I worked at IGN, they'd be mad
at me for sure. Well, like they would be mad
at you for everything, right.
Speaker 2: Right right, I'd be the big problem with everything they
didn't like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Steve from Chicago rights in and wishes
it's a happy fishing week. Hey all, I've been thinking
about this lately. As I'm getting older, I'm finding myself
turning the difficulty down or using different accessibilities to help
make the gameplay easier or more enjoyable. Do you, guys,
ever find yourself wanting to play on easy or story
mode for the pure level of enjoyment or do you
feel like you also find yourself wanting to play the
default difficulty because maybe that's the way the game was
intended to be played. You guys have been crushing it.
Happy Fishing Week, Steve from Chicago that's.
Speaker 3: The sort of thing with Mina, you know, like Mina,
like I tend to want to do the default. It's
kind of like how we do Blake Club, where's just
like do the medium whatever setting, like that's the real
setting or whatever. But like also there are games where
it's like I remember like the Wolfen Segin games, like
they had like stealth segments and stuff that, Yeah, the
recent Wolf and Sign games, and it's like I suck
with these, like kind of the stealth gameplay and I
kind of just want to run a gun and those
I did just bump down because like I do just
want to see the story in this game, and I
do just want to you know, kill a bunch of enemies.
So it's game by game for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that there's an option for it, right.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. Yeah, Like this is very personal. Like
when I'm playing a game, if I find myself near
the end of the game and I'm like I should
just turn it down to easy so I can finish it,
it's because I stopped.
Speaker 3: Enjoying the game like that.
Speaker 2: That's not no commentary on anyone turning into easy or whatever.
Speaker 3: That's that's just how.
Speaker 2: I'm playing out I want to try to play it
on the normal setting, and then if I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, god, I just wish this was over, it's like, yeah,
that's what.
Speaker 2: I'm Yeah, it's like it's like with me, and it's
where it's like, yeah, I think it's great to have
those accessibility options, but I'm always accessibility or whatever you
want to call them modifiers, right, But I'm like, well,
like how did how did you think the.
Speaker 3: Game should be played?
Speaker 10: Right?
Speaker 1: Like what did you design?
Speaker 5: And I know I should have some ownership over tailoring
it to my experience and like that's hard.
Speaker 3: Weare thing.
Speaker 2: It's weird because like I need to criticize the game,
so I'm going to criticize their healing system and people
are like, well, there's like an option where you can
change the healing system to be no.
Speaker 3: That's this way, and I'm no, way, I'm with you
on this.
Speaker 2: Even if someone like who likes to own his experience
when it comes to difficulty and tuning that stuff, it's
so hard to be like I'm going to get in
there and make a better decision than the people who
spent years making this game. Probably not, I'm probably not
going to do that. I want to know what they
thought I should be doing in.
Speaker 3: Certain games, like I do like the confidence, like specifically
like elden Ring Seco or it's like, look, this is
the game, especially Peciro, like you know, because I really
do think that experience. If I'd gotten like, if that
option was there for me in Pecio there are probably
three to five boss fights, I would have been like,
fuck this, I'm putting this down to easy and I
would not have that moment of triumph and that great
memory of like so like it depends like it not
ever problem, Like it's like, yeah, just if it's there,
don't do it.
Speaker 2: But I mean, like right right, that's but like like
for like Celeste, those options were there, but that wasn't
an easy option.
Speaker 3: It was an accessibility option.
Speaker 2: So I just I just ignored those yeah, And I'm
like sure, yeah, That's how I did it.
Speaker 1: I stopped caring if I'm not if I stop having
fun with a game.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And just because I'm bashing my head against the wall
and this is excluding the from games that you just mentioned, Dan,
like I'll just bump down.
Speaker 3: I stopped giving a shit. I just want to get
close times.
Speaker 1: Andreas and Sweden rites in I want a Scout please
T shirt that's all over again cool? Thank you, Uh Scott.
Speaker 3: Scott's get working on it, please exactly Sky please.
Speaker 1: Matt from Greeley. I don't know where that is rights
in Hey GB crew on the BombCast, Jan brought up
to go etiquette and it reminded me of my tea
who always wanted to go to Sizzler for any family meal.
That is because she would bring her giant purse filled
with open ziploc bags uh, and then would go down
the buffet line and fill up the bags in her
purse on top of actually eating there. My question is
y'all have any teas that are buffet maxing. Matt from Greeley,
pre def does Paul have any interesting habits at the buffet.
Speaker 3: Dan He won't eat out, No, he only we will
only eat food that he got in the grocery store
with the cubon. But like when I have stayed at
a hotel with him, he is stealing the toilet paper,
he is stealing the notepads, he is stealing like soap,
you know, the shampoo bottles, all that stuff. So like yeah,
he's like bring an extra bag to all the stuff.
He's gonna Jack.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, anyone's family, buffet Maxing or you yourself.
Speaker 5: No, No, the buffets at least like here, I don't know.
I see buffets on my vacation now I don't see
them locally. A ton a lot of those never came
back from the our Golden Corral clothes to give you
idea how bad it is for bundays here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fret, they're just not for really, I realized why
they were.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, there's it's there's like a certain little like
all you can eat.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's close enough to the spirit of
hot dogs. So I understand why you wouldn't like it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4: I mean they're probably in the same ball park.
Speaker 2: For the same people. No, it's I'm not saying that
that's the reason you dislike it. I'm just saying, like,
you're not one of those people.
Speaker 5: I like this meat some heat on back of r
I think I think I went too far with the
cube before a bit.
Speaker 4: That's your dad, Come all right, don't call your dad back, Alard,
I think, Yeah, I just I just I'm turned off
by like endless food, if that makes sense. Different.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't. Well, yeah, I guess I don't have
that problem. I like the I mean, I'll just stop.
It's fine, I'll just stop. Maybe I won't stop.
Speaker 2: Oh I got kicked out of CC's.
Speaker 3: I think I know. Yeah, brother, Okay my points.
Speaker 4: Then there we go.
Speaker 1: I don't aim to do this, but sometimes when I
hit up a Korean barbecue joint and maybe me and
whoever I'm with ordered a stitch too much meat, Yeah,
phi phill up the rest. Sometimes I'll cook that extra meat,
or I'll take I'll raw dog that ship, throw it
in a whatever means to carry it and give it
to the dog afterwards.
Speaker 4: I'm like, here, totally fine. Literally it's called the doggie bag.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Like, but but that's just leftovers r man. Yeah, and
the restaurant wants you to take that home. They give
you a receptacle a box.
Speaker 1: At least here in the Bay Area. Some Korean barbecue
places will charge you extra if they see that you
wasted meat.
Speaker 4: That's just like a responsibility accountability kind of thing, they
might Grandma.
Speaker 2: Then you already pay for it once. I guess, like
that is wild.
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know. Even if you're taking.
Speaker 4: It home, you're like, I'm gonna eat it.
Speaker 1: They don't like crean barbecue places that are all you
can eat. They don't give to stuff.
Speaker 3: That's different.
Speaker 1: Ye all right, all right, final email of the show
and once again the email address to send your emails
twos BombCast Giant bomb dot com. Keep writing in please uh.
This comes from Tony from Sydney, Australia, sent from my
iPhone high BombCast Crew. I just bought Final Fantasy seven
Rebirth and then realized I never actually finished Final Fantasy
seven remake. That got me wondering what game series is
it totally okay to skip the first entry in Some
sequels seem perfectly happy to catch you up, will others
feel like you'd miss be missing half the experience. For example,
I can't imagine playing Death Straining two without playing Death
Stranding one. Half the fun seems to be understanding what
on earth is going on? What series do you think
people can safely jump into midway through? In which ones?
Absolutely a choir you started for the beginning? Tony from Sydney,
Australia GTA.
Speaker 3: Most platformers like Mario Son, Yeah, I don't even.
Speaker 5: Know that it's interesting when they are like they are
kind of story based but still like Resident Evil games,
and there's definitely connecting tissues.
Speaker 3: But it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 5: Like if you play Resival two, it's fine, you don't
really know what happened Resivul one. The game might even
catch you up in any way that actually matters during that, right,
Like so many of them are like very standalone, like
like seven eight maybe as a sequel to seven. That's
a little weirder. And nine definitely has its share of callbacks.
I suppose has plenty of games.
Speaker 3: Zelda's one we used to give temporary shit because like
whenever a new game came out in a series, he
hadn't played, like a Ratchet and Clank Crack and Time
came out and that was like a fifth or sixth
Ratchet Clank game, right, and he was Adam, and he's like, well, okay,
from the vault, he like took home all the other
ratching cleans. Well, I gotta play all these before. No,
you don't, that's gonna Ratchet Clank. You need to play
up your arsenal to understand a Crack and Time. Yeah,
right right.
Speaker 1: I don't think you need to play Mass Effect one
to get really into Mass Effect.
Speaker 5: No, but that game did like carry your choices over
so you at least got to do the digital comic thing.
Speaker 1: Oh of course, ye as everyone does.
Speaker 5: M hmm, all right, I want to I want to
think about Oh sorry, Jeff, go ahead, because I want
to do a podcast where I like watch shows that
people hold like very dear.
Speaker 2: And watch them in reverse order from the last episode. Yeah,
that's all I want to do that with Doutnaby right.
Speaker 1: That would reverse the heartbreak though, of like good.
Speaker 2: That'll fix up, that'll fix a broken heart. I forgot
what I was gonna say. I'm sorry, Mike, all right,
going in and it dropped off and I think it
was good too, but we're talking about well, yeah, think
about I got it.
Speaker 5: I got to think about all the people who played
boulders Gate three. How many of them do you think
played boorders Gate one and two?
Speaker 3: Fall Out another one where it's like I got a
ton of people started.
Speaker 2: With three, which your three is here even like is
kind of like, well, here's these guys again. You all
know that, right, We're just like sure we do. But
that's like that shows it doesn't matter if the game
is good and the story is like still mostly self contained,
like even if there's Anne.
Speaker 3: Got the Witcher.
Speaker 2: Fans got him here. Okay, weird. If you're back, you're back.
I don't respect Fagan stories and we like that about you.
Speaker 3: Jack.
Speaker 1: Thank you, yes, thank you? Yeah, all right, that about
does it for emails. BombCast John bomb dot com is
the email dress and your emails to thank you everyone.
Mike Minatti, please hit me with some YouTube super chats.
Speaker 5: Alrighty, let me uh get those as soon as I
go over to the correct uh setting on the YouTube
thing here. We did get a bunch of these in today,
so thank you so much everybody like this. One from
Zombie Point says happy belated Father's Day to the duder
who gets called daddy the most A very one on
the show. Janet Choa also pay your child support. Mike, No,
you can't make me.
Speaker 3: You're not from the government. Uh.
Speaker 2: Tony Morale says two SD cards, two USB drives, one
SSD six hundred dollars on Prime Day and then it's
a kind of a thumbs down.
Speaker 3: Oh nuts, damn.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah that's the thumbs down. Yeah, it's it's it's.
Speaker 3: Prime Day Day. It's Prime Day. Cool for six bucks,
that's what I should get. Some fucking death. Look what
that's really cheap?
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: The one weird factory about me is I made that
joke about this is remember like why we celebrate Prime
Day and it was optims prime dying in the Transformers movie.
And during an all hands meeting at Amazon like in
a like an arena, Jeff Bezos showed that tweet on
the screen behind him, and someone like secretly took a
photo and sent it to me who worked there, like, oh,
that's cool, And I'm like, that's weird.
Speaker 3: That's cool.
Speaker 4: It's cool, like cool, like maybe that's not what I mean,
but that's interesting.
Speaker 3: I know, I guess exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 3: Sorry, Jan Jesus that the mix.
Speaker 5: He says, the internet knows the hot dogs hurt Jan immensely.
He looks pretty happy to me.
Speaker 3: I love hot dogs.
Speaker 5: You can't hurt Jan, makes says Jeff backlers, please set
aside budget for Mike MANAUGHTI to go to SGF twenty
twenty seven, Jeff stage, so Mike and I can continue
the Hey it's Lucy James.
Speaker 2: Mean, yeah, I'll just do it in the front row.
Just point at her every time he shows up.
Speaker 1: Can you believe it? Imagine how slightly annoyed and like
she'd be if we were sitting front row and she
just we're just constantly making icont just.
Speaker 4: Like laser pointing on you.
Speaker 2: Hey, you used to work with us over here, over here.
Slay mc also says, but Colin Wonderworld, let's fucking go.
Speaker 3: You ever played balling Wonderworld?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: Jurf, of course fucking not. What do you have a question?
Speaker 5: Is that it's pretty bad? Yeah, it's not hard sadling. Uh,
Bigsby says, So Mike Minaughty can podcast and Jeff Backlar's basement.
Now yeah I could. Yeah, I could be a basement dweller.
I could be your your son who won't go get
a real job in like his own place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're all right.
Speaker 4: That would probably fast track us renovating it. So all right,
that's on the table.
Speaker 5: I like those years when I was doing that. I
am in my twenty still living at a parent's house
in the basement.
Speaker 3: I was like, we'll let you.
Speaker 4: Smoke down there.
Speaker 3: It'll be cool, wow with you min Yeah, you just
have to.
Speaker 4: Like blow it out the window.
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 4: I mean I believe, yeah.
Speaker 3: You would like it, jacause I was mostly just watching.
Speaker 1: Food Network down there. Hell yeah, brother, don't worry about
I'll make a spliff.
Speaker 4: Tube thank you, and a couple of dryer sheets, Thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 5: Blade Runner says Dan, that was the clearest giant On
video I've ever seen. Yes, lots of compliments on your
Steam Machine video, Dan from everyone in chat.
Speaker 3: Uh dude for sore eyes.
Speaker 2: P and D says it's octopuses, Jan not OCTOPI?
Speaker 1: Is it not octopi?
Speaker 2: Everyone and then people are very happy to tell you.
But you know what, you can still say occupy because
it's fun.
Speaker 1: Hey, here's the thing. I say, whatever the fuck I want.
Speaker 5: Doc Pat Matt says, how about that new foun Fantasy
nine game announcement?
Speaker 2: Mikey ps YouTube super chat is paid to win emails.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 2: Actually, I don't think there is a new game.
Speaker 5: I think there's a puzzle got announced, and I kind
of want the puzzle if that's what you're talking about. Though,
I don't know they have an announced Facy nine game.
You can get me, I wish uh. Tyler James Bassis
Giant Bomb meetup in Arkadelphia, Arkansas? When is Arkadelphia? I
don't think that's real. No, it's killing the Elliott thing right,
that's what I thought. It's a Philadelphia joke. Delphia is
gonna be that game's biggest legacy a game.
Speaker 2: Arkadelphia is a city in Arkansas?
Speaker 3: Shit really real?
Speaker 2: Right again telling people that their town zon't exist?
Speaker 4: God almost, I mean it didn't exist until a second ago, right.
Speaker 2: Brito says Mikey Ray to pivot his whole personality from
Disney to talking Heads, Breath the Seas approves.
Speaker 3: I mean that's yeah, Like.
Speaker 2: The second like we were talking about Talking Heads and
like it was like clear Mike hadn't like consumed a
lot of it. It was like, that's such a mic band.
I bet like a week from now he's going to
be talking about the talking Heads and.
Speaker 3: Where we are. I never sent him a music recommendation,
but I just sent him the link to this This
is the Place the Naive Melody. And he's like, what
have you said? Like, oh, this is whimsical and catchy.
Arsh I got him all right, there you go.
Speaker 4: It's got a David Burne tattoo.
Speaker 5: Hey, he says, favorite fish to order at a nice restaurant,
Fish and chips doesn't count.
Speaker 1: Ooh if I see that, Dad brand Zeno on the menu.
I'm gonna go for that.
Speaker 2: Because I've watched Jurassic Park fifty times. Chilean sea bass, Yeah,
I feel like all the like actual Stephen fans think
tilapia is like pland but I like that. I like
that it's a canvas for just some nice sauce and
I kind of enjoy a tilapia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's dead.
Speaker 4: What did I hey?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: Sword sword fish is good?
Speaker 4: What did I have it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Barracuda?
Speaker 2: Oh damn uh grab cotta barracuda and Sega marine fishing.
It looks yeah, we can eat it.
Speaker 3: It's popcorn, but I'll avoid it if there's non seafood
on the menu.
Speaker 4: What's that?
Speaker 2: I want to call shrimp a fish? But yeah, you
said popcorn shrimp.
Speaker 3: And that's just the most baby you could have given.
Speaker 4: It's the same bare that's like the reds.
Speaker 2: From that one part of the you know, most of
the planet.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah. Out of ocean food, I think popcorn
shrimp is the best.
Speaker 2: Well in the ocean. Can I call that seafood?
Speaker 10: Now?
Speaker 3: I could suck up a tuna sandwich right now.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I asked me a thing that lives in the ocean, do.
Speaker 4: You do you like any kind of fish at all?
Speaker 3: They're all it's all fine, it's nothing all avoid really,
but I'm never happy to have a fish. Really. I'm
just like, I guess if this.
Speaker 4: Is going on a really nice like tuna steak that's
like rare, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know if I've had that. I don't know if
I've had tuna.
Speaker 1: Really, I tried.
Speaker 3: I tried to start trying tuna because it's good for you.
And what about the lobster roll, Dan, that's actually that's
good as fuck. Yeah, lobster is good. I just had
a lobster spaghetti that was good as hell last week.
Speaker 4: I like that Mahi mahi. That's that's bang.
Speaker 5: I like saying that. Yeah, it's fun to say Hokemon
saying its own name.
Speaker 1: At times, I thought I could go like seafood only
in terms of like meat. Goat Presbyterian.
Speaker 4: Yeah you can see.
Speaker 3: What.
Speaker 4: Oh no, that's Baptist. You're thinking Baptist?
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, president, what are we talking about?
Speaker 3: Of course?
Speaker 5: Darbie Porn says this was said in the reddit, but
can you imagine absentee father backlar and a hot dog
costume playing a Blake game that doesn't have hot dogs.
Speaker 4: That's kind of theater of the mind.
Speaker 2: Bullshit, that's a real possibility.
Speaker 5: Alex shed says, jailing my enter Pale Chubb for fishing wheep,
hopefully longer than five point nine inches. Dream the dream, brother,
Dream of the Dream, and then makes he says, so
you guys watched Clarkson's farm.
Speaker 2: I know, no, Jeremy Clarkson, the guy from top Gear
has a farm.
Speaker 1: Oh I saw.
Speaker 2: That in the news because of the cancer thing.
Speaker 3: Oh there you go. Yeah, all right, that's it for
the super Chest.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, everybody, Thank you Grub.
Speaker 1: I think it is time for recording Grub.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, turn the chats off, chats off.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Grub. Guesser, everybody. This is the podcast within
the BombCast where I present my fellow co host with
a magazine ad or something of It's like for an
old video game related product. We have one this week
that I have shared with them. It is It says,
the only other way to get NonStop gaming, and then
it references a man with several cartridges in his forehead.
What is this a product?
Speaker 3: What is this?
Speaker 2: What is this an advertisement for Jeff Grub?
Speaker 3: This is something I wanted. I think I asked for
it for Christmas and I didn't get it. It is
a sega genesis, like you know how you get like
a CD trade thing where you can put like six
CDs in it and it would like you can play
them all. It's that you can put six cartridges into
this fucking thing. I forget the name of it, but
then you can just press the button next to it
and be like I'm gonna play game three, Game four
or whatever. Dan is right.
Speaker 2: I want to see if you guys can come up
with what they called this thing. It's a pretty generic name.
The power switcher, No game.
Speaker 1: Switcher like no, the sega loader.
Speaker 2: Uh no, it's a reference to an older piece of technology.
Speaker 3: It's just a word, right, it's too juke box.
Speaker 2: It's the video game juke box. Wow, don back along,
let me see I can get that's a good.
Speaker 3: Idea, honestly, good job.
Speaker 2: Daddy.
Speaker 4: Oh you're well, thank you, son, thank you.
Speaker 3: Can we call that all my children? Now? What that
four oh eight number? We call it?
Speaker 2: Yea go ahead?
Speaker 3: Call it? Yeah, go ahead, knock yourself out. Dude.
Speaker 2: Let me show you guys the full ad here that number. Well,
I have a second ad.
Speaker 3: For you two four seven nine seven three, Okay, I'm
calling them, all right, I'll put it.
Speaker 1: On someone named Sheild.
Speaker 4: This is, this is, it's just going to be someone's
number at this part.
Speaker 3: Let's see the VJ video juke box. All right, let's
see here. I got the second one coming to you guys.
Speaker 4: Now, that's interesting. I never saw that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, maybe he did. Yeah, I can't believe
that dank anyway.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: The second ad is from a magazine and it is
a boot camp where a military man is yelling at
one of the soldiers. What is this an advertisement for?
There's some Japanese sexts on there, okay, and.
Speaker 1: What this is a game to war?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: Grub like covered someone's head? I covered some Yeah.
Speaker 5: Does this game have anything to actually do with like
traditional warfare, not that I'm aware of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I could be at war, but I don't.
I'm not familiar with the lore.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, so calm because the headset was
a big thing of that first one.
Speaker 2: That is a good guess, Janeus I did. Like again,
I blocked out the head They could be wearing the headset.
That's a good guess. It's not on track for what
the section he.
Speaker 3: Is that's number two, number two at the bottom. Is that?
Is it a sequel? Is it something too?
Speaker 2: I don't know for sure. I don't It could be,
but I don't know for sure. I think let me
put double check and see what that was. Mike said,
is it Conquerors Bad?
Speaker 3: Fer Day?
Speaker 2: It is not Conquerors Bad.
Speaker 3: Does the guy have like sonic hair? Is that why
it's blacked out? Uh?
Speaker 2: He does not have sonic hair. This is very hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really hard one.
Speaker 2: Is give you guys an easy one to start?
Speaker 3: Yep? Okay, I just got a narrow some things down.
I mean, it is not the sequel.
Speaker 2: As far as I could tell, it's not the sequel.
It looks kind of GameCube Era to me? Is it
an is game Cube Era?
Speaker 4: Really? Does the context of the photo of anything to
do with the game whatsoever?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: Okay, the guns in the game is a warfare based game.
Speaker 2: There's no As far as I know, these characters are
not at war. There are no guns in the game.
Speaker 4: How we meant to know?
Speaker 3: This is a license game? It is not a license game. Okay.
Speaker 4: Uh, this is so insane.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, we're getting we're getting there.
Speaker 1: Is there is there a game for the GameCube that
you yell, Oh.
Speaker 3: My god, Odama? This is not Odama. Here is the
square over this guy's face on the right. We still
see his nose and like upper lips. So it's not
like it's not gonna be a crash bandicoot or something.
Speaker 2: It's way dumber than that.
Speaker 1: Is this Pickman?
Speaker 3: This is not Pickman?
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe a little ten? Yeah, where's Japanese? It is,
let's see here, not a first party Nintendo game, but
it is for the GameCube.
Speaker 3: Ve have we played it on this website?
Speaker 2: We have played it on this website, or at least
one of its sequels, multiple sequels.
Speaker 3: Looking at my collection behind me, so that.
Speaker 2: Hey, I gave the easy one first. So now.
Speaker 3: Is it fucking Billy Hatcher?
Speaker 2: It is not Billy Hatcher, but closer.
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: Is it a monkey Ball?
Speaker 2: It is super monkey Ball for the GameCube. Wow, there
you go. Take a look at this fox. Just give
him the monkey. The monkey character's heres I I think
his ears and his little like pop a door and
that's the ad and for some reason a military man
is yelling at him.
Speaker 3: It's a Japanese ad. To be clear.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's grub guesser. Thanks for turning in boys, Thanks
for listening to everybody. We'll be back, be back with
another episode next.
Speaker 1: Week, fantastic folks. That brings us to the end of
the Giant bomb cast for this week. Boys, What do
we got going on the rest of this week? It's
fishing week. If you didn't hear us wax poetically about
that grub from Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday is going to
be playing Umi Gari. We're just gonna be calling it
Uma grubby. We're gonna have a fishing grub bag tomorrow.
We're gonna be playing a bunch of fishing games. I
believe we will be playing webfishing on upf This week.
We have a special guest friends for voicemail dumb Truck,
our own Abby russ No, it's Abby Russell. She is
joining us for the dump Truck. Everybody get excited. What
else do we got going on? If you have not
checked out Dan's Steam Machine review, I highly suggest you
go check that out. Go juice the a'lgo folks. Help
us outrang yeah, share it with some friends. Also hit
it own the socials as well. Please shouts out to
Will and Sean for tag teaming those Jimmy James for
the premium babies out there.
Speaker 3: We got it.
Speaker 1: We have an episode. I have nine lives of mister
Mistophaples after today going.
Speaker 3: Up to a very special episode, A.
Speaker 1: Very special episode. I don't want to say more about it,
but it's an emotional one for all of us. Here
a giant bomb dot com. Oh yeah, yeah, hey, you know,
not everything is forever, turns out, but folks, something that
I hope is also not forever for his sake is
the blightening round space ace again hitting tomorrow. Dan, You're
gonna do it. You got this.
Speaker 3: We're learning very important things. I think it sounds like
I know everything I need to know to just get
to the last level, now, is that right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, we're gonna do special lives. It's like,
the problem is the game.
Speaker 2: What you do? This real weird maneuver to get to
the last HOLDO maneuvers the hold. Yeah, he's got to
go to the light speed into the enemy's ship, whip.
Speaker 3: Around, and then is that the last bull should jump
in the rocket skate man should for them? I think so?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that'll be it for the map. If you can
think I can do it, I can do it. I
can do it, all right, I believe.
Speaker 3: Okay, it'll feel very good when I'm done. We should
just make back our play space. As to her, please.
Speaker 1: Know Pokemonday Night Combat is moving to Friday. We're gonna
have a Shawn and I are going to have an
all fish Pokemon team, or you know what, I might
extend it to water types because there may not be
as many fish available in the game right now. So
get your bonds ready, h see creatures, let's see. I
think that about does it for everything. Oh, Mike Manati,
the Missbusters are headed to Portland, Oregon. Tell the folks
more about that real quick.
Speaker 5: That's why everyone, We're going to the miss Fan Convention
Mysterium in Portland that goes from July twenty fourth to
twenty sixth. We have a panel on July twenty fifth,
the Trial of Daddy Atrus. Happy Father's Day, everybody. But yeah,
we're gonna be hanging out. We might be even trying
to get a some kind of meetup. Get it going
while we're down there too. So yeah, come hang out
with Giant Bomb and Portland. In the end of July
there again. July twenty fifth is when we're gonna be there.
Go to mysterium dot net to look up info about
the convention. Yeah yeah, fun little fan convention for people
who love the video game miss seems like they get
into all sorts of fun stuff. Might be solving some
actual puzzles things like that. Yeah, it's gonna be a
good time.
Speaker 1: The website says there's a pool party, so I might
partake in that. We have some shenanigans loosely planned prior
to Mysterium and some solo shenanigans loosely planned for after
Mysterium as well. Folks, think that about does it. We
got a lot of stuff popping off this week. Stay
tuned to the website. We may have some other things
popping off that we can't put on a schedule, so
stay tuned to the website. To the YouTube. Thank you
all the Premium members out there. Thank you for the
YouTube members out there that doesn't for to.
Speaker 3: This episode of the Giant Podcast.
Speaker 1: We'll see you next week. Fishing Week is eternal.
Speaker 2: It will live forever.
Speaker 6: He's been Chef, piast p Chef, He's been Mike, he's
been Dan hipit chance, shouts out to whale, shouts out
to Chuck Shuck, don't get you better stop working. Do
you have one hundred and two de free fever? Get
out of here?
Speaker 1: Does?
Speaker 2: Shouts out to Sean on the ones and.
Speaker 6: Twos, and Hey, shouts out to you at home, and
shouts out to Seaman.
Speaker 3: We'll see next week for another episode of the Job Guys,
come on