WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.839 AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:08.400 on the iHeartRadio app. Whatever's going on in the world 4 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:11.599 just seems to be picking up speed every single day incrementally, 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:14.279 but it's not getting slower anytime soon. 6 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:15.359 We have a lot going on. 7 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:18.760 We'll talk about the weather back east, the new polar 8 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:22.399 vortex that's coming through. We have more information about the 9 00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:26.559 United States sitting down with Russia in Riodd Saudi Arabia. 10 00:00:27.079 --> 00:00:29.960 We'll hear from Secretary of State Marco Rubio. There's a 11 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:33.799 lot going on with Doge again. And an interesting character 12 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:38.119 has popped up in the court battles against the Department 13 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:40.880 of Government Efficiency. It's a name that you've heard before, 14 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:44.359 and in fact, she was on. She was very anti 15 00:00:44.479 --> 00:00:46.880 Trump at one point and may actually make a ruling 16 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:49.200 in favor of the Trump administration this time. 17 00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:51.039 So that's all going on. 18 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:55.679 Schools at LA Unified return to classes today with no phones. 19 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:58.880 Today's the first day of the no phone policy. The 20 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:01.280 Governor of New York may kick out the Mayor of 21 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:05.599 New York City. We're spying on the drug cartels with drones. 22 00:01:06.040 --> 00:01:06.640 All of that. 23 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:11.200 Stuff is going on. Pardon me one second. Shannon's out. 24 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:13.319 She's taking care of some family stuff. But she will 25 00:01:13.319 --> 00:01:18.200 be back. We will think of her in her absence. 26 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:21.480 But she's taken care of some family stuff. So that's 27 00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:25.840 where she is. If you must know, there is a 28 00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:27.959 story that is bubbling up, and I think we're gonna 29 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:31.560 have to do a much deeper dive into it tomorrow 30 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:35.920 and we get some more information. But you remember the 31 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:42.760 story in Vermont on January twentieth, on Inauguration Day, there 32 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:45.879 was a border patrol agent who stopped a vehicle that 33 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:48.560 was carrying a couple of people and the Border patrol 34 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:53.799 agent was shot and killed. Well, that started an investigation 35 00:01:54.120 --> 00:02:01.239 into this very weird group and it's called Zizzia, and 36 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:02.719 they're describing this as a. 37 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:10.360 Vegan, gender bending cult. 38 00:02:10.719 --> 00:02:14.840 Basically centered in many different places around the country. Had 39 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:18.120 some time here in California, then in North Carolina. They've 40 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:22.319 got footprints in Pennsylvania and Vermont, and it is the 41 00:02:22.439 --> 00:02:25.759 strangest thing I've seen in a long time. All of 42 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:30.800 this is apparently surrounding the leader of this very strange 43 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:35.240 cult called Ziz and the people who follow Ziz call 44 00:02:35.319 --> 00:02:42.759 themselves Zizians. Zizz was born a man and now goes 45 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:48.280 by Zizz. Jack Lesota moved to the Bay Area after 46 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:50.319 he got a computer science degree from the University of 47 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:55.080 Alaska Fairbanks. In twenty thirteen, he interned at NASA. NASA 48 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:58.319 hasn't responded, they're not saying anything about this. But in 49 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:06.599 twenty sixteen, Ziz began publishing this rambling blog describing a 50 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:09.439 theory that the two hemispheres of the brain could hold 51 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:14.039 separate values and genders and often desire to kill each other. 52 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:17.759 And Jack was going by the name Ziz was using. 53 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:21.159 She her pronouns in the writings and claims to be 54 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:26.800 a transgender woman, a woman rallies against enemies so called 55 00:03:26.919 --> 00:03:31.919 nationalist groups. She is concerned about the potential dangers of 56 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:36.280 artificial intelligence. She wants to understand human cognition through reason 57 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:40.840 and knowledge, and then starts promoting this very weird mix 58 00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:49.960 of rationalism, of ethical, veganism, anarchism, all of the isms, 59 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:53.199 and that seems to resonate with some of the people online. 60 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:57.800 So in November of twenty nineteen, Ziz or back then 61 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:00.919 Jack Lesoda arrested with a bunch of other people outside 62 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:05.240 of protest in a protest outside of Northern California Retreat Center, 63 00:04:05.680 --> 00:04:08.080 a SWAT team had to come in. The mask wearing 64 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:12.319 group was blocking the exit, handing out flyers railing against 65 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:16.920 the organization. In autumn of twenty two. A few years later, 66 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:22.920 Ziz had moved with other group members into vans and 67 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:27.879 box trucks on a property in Vallejo. They got into 68 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:30.720 a fight with the landlord because they weren't paying rent, 69 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:34.120 blinded the guy. He ended up shooting and killing one 70 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:37.519 of them. A few months later, a couple shot and 71 00:04:37.639 --> 00:04:44.600 killed in Pennsylvania, and Ziz was believed to be part 72 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:47.000 of the group that went in and killed this couple. 73 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:52.079 Six months later, released on bail, but stopped showing up 74 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:55.600 for court. Remember the landlord here in California that was 75 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:58.040 got in a fight with him. He shows up dead, 76 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:02.319 despite the fact that he his case was already determined 77 00:05:02.360 --> 00:05:04.639 to be self defense. A couple other people that would 78 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:06.079 started to fight with the ones who were going to 79 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:06.720 go on trial. 80 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:09.000 He ends up dead. His throat was slashed. 81 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:13.360 January, the Border Patrol agent stops a vehicle carrying two 82 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:14.480 people connected. 83 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:15.560 To this Ziz group. 84 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:22.680 The Teresa Young Blute was driving the car with a gun, 85 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:25.759 and authority said she got out and just started shooting 86 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:30.079 a passenger. A guy named Felix was a German national 87 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:35.279 also listed in court documents as Ophelia died along with 88 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:40.040 the Border Patrol agent David malland authorities found a ballistic helmet, 89 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:43.480 night vision goggles, respirators, and they're saying that this group, 90 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:50.279 this Zizzian group, is this weird radical cult like uber 91 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:55.920 vegan but also gender non conforming cult that is now 92 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:59.720 using violence to get its message across. And its message 93 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:06.480 is I have no idea what its message is radical veganism. This, 94 00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:09.360 I mean, this stretches from from coast to coast. I 95 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:11.959 just stumbled upon this story late last night. I saw 96 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:15.639 some of this reporting from CBS News today. So tomorrow 97 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:18.040 we're going to spend a lot more time on this 98 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:21.040 zizzy And group and try to figure out where this 99 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:26.560 Where Jack is Jack that goes by zizz Now, all right, listen, 100 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:28.879 there was a crazy plane crash yesterday. 101 00:06:29.319 --> 00:06:32.360 We all saw the video. If you haven't, it's incredible. 102 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:37.920 How does a plane flip over and no one get killed? 103 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:39.759 This is an active investigation. 104 00:06:41.079 --> 00:06:42.120 It's very early on. 105 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:44.160 It's really important. 106 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:47.879 That we do not speculate. What we can say is 107 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:51.240 a runway was dry and there is no cross wind conditions. 108 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:53.399 It's not sure that any of that is true. 109 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:57.199 We are expecting another update on the emergence on the 110 00:06:57.279 --> 00:07:00.759 Terraino Toronto plane crash from Emergency If in a moment. 111 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:02.600 But we'll hear from a couple of guys who were 112 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:06.959 literally hanging upside down on that flight when it crashed. 113 00:07:07.079 --> 00:07:12.720 Good morning, Gary, Yo, So this week's story for Shannon's 114 00:07:12.759 --> 00:07:18.240 suspension his family stuff. Last week's story was ruthe canal right, 115 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:21.600 wonder what next week's story is. Can it be? 116 00:07:21.639 --> 00:07:24.399 We'll have to pay attention. We'll have to find yes, 117 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:25.199 everybody does. 118 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:28.600 Hey, Gary, I'd like you to talk about the Tom 119 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:33.279 Hanks' performance on the Saturday Night Live Anniversary show. I mean, 120 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:39.759 that is a Platinum, Triple A list celebrity who basically 121 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:43.360 flapped over half of America and no one's really talking 122 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:46.800 about it, including you. I mean, it really was quite 123 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:50.720 an amazing performance there when he was on Jeopardy. I mean, 124 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:51.879 I'm just. 125 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:54.759 Saying I did talk about it yesterday. I said that 126 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:57.519 it was an absolutely stupid misstep on their part. They 127 00:07:57.519 --> 00:07:59.480 didn't have to do that. In fact, I don't remember 128 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:02.759 when he did the character before on Black Jeopardy on 129 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:05.160 a Saturday night live skit. I don't remember the Maga hat, 130 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:09.519 but it was just it was ridiculous and unnecessary and 131 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:11.600 a little shameful from Tom Hanks. 132 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:12.480 He can do better than that. 133 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:16.759 About eighty people on board flight forty eight to nineteen, 134 00:08:17.079 --> 00:08:21.560 the Delta flight from Minneapolis to Toronto yesterday when there 135 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:24.800 was a plane crash. This thing came in for a 136 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:26.079 landing and flipped. 137 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:28.759 You just have aper Roger. 138 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:31.759 Yeah, we're just gooding with the rot se whether they 139 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:33.600 wanted to redeploy to the crash light or up. 140 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:35.600 There's people outside walking around the aircraft. 141 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:38.919 There this little Bombardier plane, this regional jet, the two 142 00:08:38.919 --> 00:08:41.480 engines on either side of the fuselage in the back 143 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:47.279 of the plane hit hard, flipped over and is even 144 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:51.840 today right now still upside down on that runway. You 145 00:08:51.919 --> 00:08:54.399 heard people getting out of the plane, the flight attendants 146 00:08:54.399 --> 00:09:12.600 that were helping people get out from the upside down airplane. 147 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:15.559 I mean, that guy drops a couple f bombs and 148 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:17.440 there's a few more actually at the end of his tape. 149 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:20.279 I don't know how you don't his name was Peter Kukov. 150 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:22.960 If he explains what happened from inside the plane. 151 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:26.159 Basically, we hit the ground and kind of just bounced 152 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:29.120 up and turned on our side, and we're sliding on 153 00:09:29.159 --> 00:09:32.799 our side for a while, or honestly not as long 154 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:34.440 as I thought we were going to slide for and 155 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:37.840 then we ended up upside down and we were yeah, 156 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:40.240 we were hanging by our seat belts upside down for 157 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:43.960 a second, and then yeah, we made it off safely. 158 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:46.320 Everyone everyone is alive, thankfully. 159 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:48.720 Yeah. John Nelson was also on the plane. 160 00:09:49.159 --> 00:09:51.480 There was no warning we were coming in for our landing, 161 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:55.759 and when the plane came in, it was we hit 162 00:09:55.799 --> 00:09:59.759 the runway really hard and like extremely hard, and we 163 00:09:59.799 --> 00:10:01.919 kind of popped up and it felt like we were 164 00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:05.000 leaning to the left. It was just incredibly fast. There 165 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:07.720 was a giant firewall down the side. I could actually 166 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:11.320 feel the heat through the glass. And then we were 167 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:13.960 going sideways. I'm not even sure how many times we 168 00:10:14.039 --> 00:10:17.320 like tumbled, but we ended upside down. I was hanging 169 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:20.720 there in my seat belt upside down. Everybody was quiet 170 00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:24.080 for like a moment or two, and then everybody was 171 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:26.639 trying to like scramble to make a sense of what 172 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:29.600 just had happened, and so we released the seat belts 173 00:10:29.919 --> 00:10:31.679 that kind of fell to the floor, which is now 174 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:32.240 the ceiling. 175 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:35.519 So the video that I've seen taken from a nearby runway, 176 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:40.120 sees the airplane coming in and it hits the runway. 177 00:10:40.399 --> 00:10:43.399 It looks like it's pretty hard lands pretty hard on 178 00:10:44.120 --> 00:10:49.879 the runway and may have snapped some or all of 179 00:10:49.919 --> 00:10:56.360 the landing gear. The right wing actually hits the ground 180 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:59.320 and breaks off. That's where you see the explosion come 181 00:10:59.320 --> 00:11:03.799 from the fuel in the wing. Everything explodes when that 182 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:08.080 wing disappears on the left side, that wing is still 183 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:12.159 trying to lift the airplane. That's why the left wing 184 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:18.759 comes up and over and flips this thing onto its back. Amazingly, 185 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:24.399 everybody on board survived and as of this morning, almost 186 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:28.039 everybody that went to the hospital is out of the hospital. 187 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:31.639 They said that there were there was at least one 188 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:35.399 adult and we believe one child in critical condition but 189 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:41.240 not life threatening, and we just we've got to figure 190 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:43.759 out what happened. I told you or I played for you. 191 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:45.720 This Canadian Fire official. 192 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:47.480 This is an active investigation. 193 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:49.799 It's very early on. 194 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:51.879 It's really important. 195 00:11:51.519 --> 00:11:55.600 That we do not speculate what we can say is 196 00:11:55.639 --> 00:11:59.039 a runway was dry and there is no cross wing conditions. 197 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:03.960 It's hard to believe that there were no crosswind conditions. 198 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:05.720 I mean, you saw the people getting out of the 199 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:09.039 airplane and the fire engines that were there. Even while 200 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:12.600 they were spraying water onto to make sure that the 201 00:12:12.679 --> 00:12:15.679 fire didn't come back, it looked like the water was 202 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:19.480 being blown around by the wind. They are supposed to 203 00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:22.399 clarify this. We've been told that they were going to 204 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:25.279 have another briefing on this crash was supposed to start 205 00:12:25.279 --> 00:12:28.080 about a half an hour ago last count, but they 206 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:32.039 haven't started it yet. An air traffic controller told a 207 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:34.679 meleical helicopter pilot who offered to help out. Yeah, there 208 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:38.279 are people outside walking around the aircraft. It's upside down 209 00:12:38.360 --> 00:12:41.720 and burning. The Transportation Safety Board of Canada is the 210 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:46.720 lead agency on this investigation. Of course NTSB, our agency 211 00:12:47.159 --> 00:12:50.440 is going to lend a team of American investigators up there. 212 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:54.360 This is going to be a problem. Toronto Pierson Airport 213 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:59.159 is the busiest airport in Canada. They were already dealing 214 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:01.759 with delays and instilations because of the series of winter 215 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:04.360 storms that have been coming through. We told you how 216 00:13:04.399 --> 00:13:08.480 cold it was. They are holding that news conference has 217 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:10.399 just started. We'll keep an ear on it and see 218 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:12.320 if there's anything new that comes out of it, but 219 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:15.480 it is. I think there are five runways there at 220 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:18.080 Toronto Pearson. They said that two of them are still 221 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:20.919 shut down as a result of this accident. Been listening 222 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:24.320 to this news conference out of Canada. Deborah Flint, the 223 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:28.080 President and COO of Toronto Pearson International Airport, has been 224 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:33.399 describing the recovery efforts the investigation underway now in the 225 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:36.879 plane crash yesterday, that Delta Regional jet that crashed on 226 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:41.120 landing there at Toronto Pearson International Airport. She hasn't really 227 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:45.480 unveiled much new about what happened and has tried to 228 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:47.720 keep the speculation to a minimum, so she's not even 229 00:13:47.720 --> 00:13:50.919 really getting into the conditions on the ground at the time, 230 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:53.919 like what the runway looked like, what kind of wind 231 00:13:53.960 --> 00:13:57.480 conditions were there, But that she did say and kind 232 00:13:57.519 --> 00:14:01.559 of detailed that there is there had been some weather 233 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:07.480 related cancelations and delays for days leading up to yesterday's crash, 234 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:10.480 that yesterday actually had cleared up and that they were 235 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:13.759 planning on getting their operations back to normal taking advantage 236 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:17.600 of the relatively clear weather. So still trying to figure 237 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:21.039 out all of that. That round of frigid temperatures is 238 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:24.879 dipping into the United States as well. We're talking about 239 00:14:25.000 --> 00:14:27.480 a lot of the central US and the Ohio Valley. 240 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:31.399 We're talking temperatures well below zero, above that, and then 241 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:37.200 down below freezing in some areas as far south as Oklahoma. Well, 242 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:40.039 Russia and the United States have agreed to start working 243 00:14:40.039 --> 00:14:44.080 towards ending the war in Ukraine, trying to improve diplomatic 244 00:14:44.159 --> 00:14:47.559 ties and economic ties. We saw Secretary of State Marco 245 00:14:47.639 --> 00:14:52.200 Rubio meeting with his counterpart, the Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov 246 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:55.440 in Riod, Saudi Arabia. Of course, Ukraine is the big 247 00:14:55.480 --> 00:14:58.480 issue here, but there are other things that go into 248 00:14:58.639 --> 00:14:59.120 all of this. 249 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:00.559 Joining us talk more about it. 250 00:15:00.559 --> 00:15:04.360 Lieutenant General Richard Newton, senior National security contributor to News 251 00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:09.879 Nation in General. What can be done in these talks 252 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:13.879 about the conflict in Ukraine if Ukraine is not even 253 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:14.440 at the table. 254 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:19.639 Well, good morning, Gary, good to be with you. Let's 255 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:21.639 back up just a little bit. The purpose of these 256 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:25.559 talks and Riod that just concluded. There were two objectives here. 257 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:29.480 One is to restore what I call a strategic dialogue 258 00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:32.879 between the United States and Russia first and foremost, and secondly, 259 00:15:32.879 --> 00:15:37.960 it was established a process for now ensuing seafire negotiations 260 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:41.720 between Russia and Ukraine. And so now that that's I 261 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:43.360 think we're off to a good start. I think that's 262 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:49.480 been somewhat accomplished. Now you're going to see seafire negotiations 263 00:15:49.559 --> 00:15:56.360 interest will absolutely include Ukraine, have to include Ukraine as 264 00:15:56.399 --> 00:15:59.519 well as certainly Russia and the United States. And so 265 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:01.159 that's what you're going to see play out here. But 266 00:16:01.919 --> 00:16:05.000 this is now We're entering a very complicated and very 267 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:09.960 intricate process, and we're going to see some you know, 268 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:14.200 some some turns and changes and so forth over the 269 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:16.720 next several weeks. But you're going to see Ukraine at 270 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:17.679 the table at some point. 271 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:21.679 One of the issues that has been discussed, at least 272 00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:25.360 in the last couple of weeks is Ukraine seeding some 273 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:29.639 of the territory that Russia has captured, especially since twenty 274 00:16:29.679 --> 00:16:33.759 fourteen when they went in and took Crimea. If if 275 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:37.879 Russia does gain some of that territory that they have 276 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:43.279 long claimed is already theirs, does that embolden Vladimir Putin 277 00:16:43.399 --> 00:16:47.120 to go after Georgia or Moldova or Finland or some 278 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:48.360 other bordering country. 279 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:51.480 Well, you're referring to You're right, about twenty percent of 280 00:16:51.519 --> 00:16:55.960 the territory actually goes back to twenty fourteen had been 281 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:58.639 seated to Russia, to include not only the eastern part 282 00:16:58.679 --> 00:17:02.080 of Ukraine the dawn Bass region we've talked about, but 283 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:05.480 also to the south in Crimea. What is going to, however, 284 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:11.160 deter Plutin is whether or not he retains that territory. Really, 285 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:15.400 the main thing that will deter him is the security 286 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:19.759 agreement and the security arrangements for Ukraine in any ceasefire 287 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:25.160 negotiation and post ceasefire negotiation, that security guarantee first and 288 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:27.799 foremost has to come from the front, and that's the 289 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:32.400 United States, but also European nations and or NATO North 290 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:36.079 Landing Training Organization nations. They've got to really up their game. 291 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:40.200 From just most of the nations providing two to three 292 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:42.920 percent of their gross cemestry product toward defense, up that 293 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:46.880 to about five percent. They've got to increase. I'm talking 294 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:49.319 about the thirty one other NATO nations to include the 295 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:51.839 United States, would be the thirty Second, they've got to 296 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:57.480 increase their defense spending. They've got to also demonstrate military capability, 297 00:17:57.559 --> 00:18:01.480 but also the will to use that military force. That's 298 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:04.880 what's going to deter Putin from ever again thinking about 299 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:08.599 invading Ukraine or Georgia or any other perhaps even a 300 00:18:08.680 --> 00:18:09.319 NATO nation. 301 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:13.680 The issue of NATO membership has also been something Ukraine 302 00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:17.079 has wanted because they want the security guarantee that comes 303 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:20.359 with membership. Why would the United States not want to 304 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:22.599 include Ukraine as part of NATO. 305 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:25.359 I don't think you're going to see that, you know, 306 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:30.480 offer up a NATO membership for Ukraine anytime soon. I'm 307 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:32.680 starting talking about in the next three to five years, 308 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:34.960 or perhaps even longer, because that's going to really put 309 00:18:35.240 --> 00:18:38.960 an impedent, impediment on a negotiated settlement. But what you 310 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:42.079 are going to see is you're going to see I 311 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:44.160 believe the United States and I would offer up to 312 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:48.279 President Trump to continue to provide weapons to Ukraine for 313 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:53.200 the near term. Secondly, I would also strongly advocate for 314 00:18:53.359 --> 00:18:59.400 and compel European nations to bride military forces as peacekeeping operations, 315 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:03.440 perhaps in Ukraine territory, with certainly along the border between 316 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:06.920 Ukraine and Russia, perhaps much like you see between North 317 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:11.799 Korea and South Korea on the Korean Peninsula. But your 318 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:14.680 question really hits on the key point I believe is 319 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:18.240 the security guarantees not only to not only for Presidents 320 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:22.640 Zelenski and Ukraine, but the security guarantees that, as I mentioned, 321 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:26.640 deters Russia from ever thinking about attacking Ukraine again or 322 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:29.079 any other European nation there in the continent. 323 00:19:29.839 --> 00:19:32.160 The other thing this was sort of wild card that 324 00:19:32.279 --> 00:19:35.640 exists in Ukraine is that they've had to delay their 325 00:19:35.759 --> 00:19:40.839 elections because obviously they are at war with Russia. When 326 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:44.559 we get a negotiated settlement, which appears much more likely 327 00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:47.279 now than it has in a long time, and they 328 00:19:47.279 --> 00:19:51.119 go through the election process, does Zelensky stay as President 329 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:52.279 of Ukraine. 330 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:53.880 Well, that's a great question. 331 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:55.599 I don't know. 332 00:19:56.640 --> 00:19:58.400 You know, that's going to be up to the Ukrainian people, 333 00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:02.640 and the hope is that it'll be through a very 334 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:07.079 effective democratic process. For the for the re election, I 335 00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:10.400 think President Zelensky has done an admirable job as President 336 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:14.319 of Ukraine, as a wartime president, a wartime leader, and 337 00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:16.519 the fact is it'll be up to Ukraine people to 338 00:20:16.559 --> 00:20:20.039 see if they want to continue his another term for 339 00:20:20.119 --> 00:20:24.720 him to serve as president. If I were all things 340 00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:27.839 being equal, I would advocate for Presidents Zelensky to continue 341 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:31.119 because of what he's done from a wartime standpoint, but 342 00:20:31.240 --> 00:20:34.799 also to continue the momentum that he has created politically 343 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:39.079 and geopolitically and certainly militarily on the battlefield defending his nation. 344 00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:45.240 But what's going to transpire internally to Ukraine is one thing. 345 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:47.640 But that's where the externals are so important. As you 346 00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:51.839 and I've already talked about the continued support for Ukraine 347 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:58.440 militarily these obviously these these security guarantees, but also the 348 00:20:58.759 --> 00:21:02.920 political diplomatics that we need to voice our support with 349 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:06.599 Presidents Linsky and Ukraine. My final point on that is 350 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:11.359 that's why it's so important that Ukraine indeed does participate 351 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:15.279 in these peace negotiations, because in my view, it'll probably 352 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:19.559 include having deceived some territory, but also there are other 353 00:21:19.640 --> 00:21:23.519 cards to play against Putin and Russia, Princevily, economic, economic 354 00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:27.559 sanctions and other things that we can hold leverage against 355 00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:30.720 Putin from and to turn him from ever acting again. 356 00:21:31.279 --> 00:21:33.920 Always a pleasure to talk to you, Lieutenant General Richard 357 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:37.920 Newton senior national security contributor to News Nation. Thanks again, 358 00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:41.200 thank you, You're always good to be with you. Absolutely 359 00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:45.960 worth pointing out. President Zelenski was supposed to be flying 360 00:21:46.039 --> 00:21:49.680 to Saudi Arabia, not as part of these talks, but 361 00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:51.440 he was supposed to be flying to Saudi Arabia. He 362 00:21:51.480 --> 00:21:55.440 canceled that trip, saying that they will not accept any 363 00:21:55.480 --> 00:21:58.880 outcome from these talks since Kiev didn't take part in them. 364 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:01.160 A couple other stories that were following. 365 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:03.720 Students at LA Unified go back to classes today with 366 00:22:03.799 --> 00:22:08.079 a huge new real rule in place, no cell phones 367 00:22:08.359 --> 00:22:11.519 in the classrooms now. Different schools have different policies. Some 368 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:13.720 of them have phones that can be locked up in 369 00:22:13.759 --> 00:22:19.200 special containers, those yonder pouches or similar things. Others will 370 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:22.599 have students simply storing them in their backpacks and not 371 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:26.880 allowed to get them except an emergency. There are some exceptions, 372 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:30.480 for example, students who need phones for translation purposes, students 373 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:33.200 who use them to overcome some learning disabilities, they can 374 00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:35.319 still have them and then out of New York Today. 375 00:22:35.400 --> 00:22:39.200 Strange story about New York's Governor Kathy Hochel. She's now 376 00:22:39.240 --> 00:22:42.200 saying she's looking at whether or not she should remove 377 00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:46.440 Mayor Eric Adams from office after four of his top 378 00:22:46.480 --> 00:22:51.440 deputies announced their resignations. Of course, the Justice Department ended 379 00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:55.680 the corruption case against Mayor Eric Adams. She says she's 380 00:22:55.720 --> 00:22:57.640 going to convene a meeting today in Manhattan for a 381 00:22:57.680 --> 00:23:01.160 conversation about the path four for what's going on. 382 00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:04.160 Oh now, it's a negative thing that Tom Hanks did. 383 00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:08.160 Looks like you are mago right, Yeah, there you go. 384 00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:10.079 We know, we know why you're mad. 385 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:13.039 I just thought it was it was Listen, Tom Hanks 386 00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:15.279 doesn't have to call everybody racists. 387 00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:16.920 That's that's what the issue was. 388 00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:21.400 And the s kid itself Black Jeopardy with Eddie Murphy 389 00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:25.200 playing Tracy Morgan standing next to Tracy Morgan. It was 390 00:23:25.279 --> 00:23:28.720 funny by itself. You don't get to go around and 391 00:23:28.720 --> 00:23:32.720 call people racist. That's that ended being funny about one 392 00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:37.839 hundred years ago. So there are questions about who is 393 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:40.599 in fact in charge of the Department of Government Efficiency. 394 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:43.119 That's Elon Musk's group, right. 395 00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:46.880 The answer is not certain, and it got even cloudier 396 00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:52.920 when lawyers who have been defending the Trump administration wrote 397 00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:57.079 in a court paper that Elon Musk is not the 398 00:23:57.119 --> 00:24:02.240 administrator of the Department of Government efficient, which is obviously 399 00:24:02.359 --> 00:24:06.200 contradictory to everything that's been said by him, by the President, 400 00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:11.200 by everybody else. According to the Office of Administration Director 401 00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:17.559