1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,640 go to vpeteclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,679 smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:36,159 your support. So Tennessee, the congressional district that includes Nashville 10 00:00:37,039 --> 00:00:43,840 held themselves a special election yesterday and it stayed Republican. 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,119 This was a Republican seat. This is a seat that 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,240 Marsha Blackburn used to hold easily. I want to say, 13 00:00:50,439 --> 00:00:54,600 like plus twenty or plus thirty percentage point wins every time. 14 00:00:55,119 --> 00:01:01,600 Solid red district, even though Nashville is located inside the 15 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,239 district and Nashville tends to vote more blue. But Nashville 16 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:10,959 has also seen an influx of people fleeing from California 17 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,439 and New York. A lot of Californians I've noticed have 18 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:18,480 moved to Nashville, Tennessee. So it appears to be growing 19 00:01:18,519 --> 00:01:21,879 more and more blue, just like all of these other 20 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,239 places like Charlotte. Did we ever determine what we were 21 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,239 going to call this the Blue Bonnic? 22 00:01:27,879 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: Is that what we're calling it? The Blue Bonnic? 23 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: Play? 24 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 2: Anyway? 25 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: I had never heard of this woman who was running, 26 00:01:35,239 --> 00:01:39,719 this Democrat who was running before this race. And her 27 00:01:39,799 --> 00:01:44,040 name is Afton Ben. I think is how that's pronounced. 28 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:49,359 It's a very odd name, a f t y n aften, 29 00:01:50,239 --> 00:01:54,280 last name b e h n. Maybe it's Baine. I 30 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,120 think it's Ben, or maybe it's Bachen. I don't know 31 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:03,480 Afton Ben. Jeff bl Layer at National Review describes her 32 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:08,800 charitably as having a perpetually sneering visage, as if the 33 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:14,400 world was forever batching her Starbucks latte order. That's and 34 00:02:14,439 --> 00:02:15,360 if you've seen her. 35 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:15,879 Speaker 2: It's true. 36 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,719 Speaker 1: It is true. She just has this sort of scowl 37 00:02:20,759 --> 00:02:23,159 on her face most of the time. And then last 38 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:30,599 night during her concession speech, she wore I don't even 39 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,159 know how to describe this jacket. It was sort of 40 00:02:35,319 --> 00:02:40,439 looked it looked plasticky, like a leather plastic y kind 41 00:02:40,479 --> 00:02:45,319 of a cowgirled coat kind of deal. And it was 42 00:02:45,439 --> 00:02:49,960 like aqua blue or like a light blue, and it 43 00:02:50,039 --> 00:02:53,280 had a bunch of like rhinestones on it, but it 44 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,759 looked about two sizes too big, so it almost looked 45 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,840 like she was dressed in full pads for a football game. 46 00:03:02,879 --> 00:03:04,960 And then she had one of those you know, one 47 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,560 of those ponchos that they put over the football players 48 00:03:08,599 --> 00:03:09,599 while they're on the sideline. 49 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,319 Speaker 2: That's what it kind of looked like she was wearing. 50 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,240 It was just weird. 51 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: It was just a weird jacket to wear for your 52 00:03:14,879 --> 00:03:18,560 concession speech. Now, maybe she was trying to convey the 53 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:24,840 image that she really does love Nashville. And you may 54 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:28,039 be thinking, well, of course she would love Nashville. She's 55 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,759 running for the congressional district to represent. 56 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: Nashville, right. 57 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:41,319 Speaker 1: Well, actually, she she had previously talked about how much 58 00:03:41,439 --> 00:03:47,639 she hated Nashville and everything really about Nashville, hated the 59 00:03:47,639 --> 00:03:51,800 bachelorette parties, which I've actually I do know something about this, 60 00:03:52,039 --> 00:03:54,000 not that I know, not that I've been to a 61 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,599 bachelorette party, but I did a story, well I covered 62 00:03:58,639 --> 00:04:03,319 the story years ago go that a lot of businesses 63 00:04:03,319 --> 00:04:10,919 in Nashville, or Nashvillians, nashvillelites, what do they called Nashville owens, 64 00:04:11,479 --> 00:04:13,919 they were not fond of all of the bachelorette parties. 65 00:04:13,919 --> 00:04:17,920 Apparently Nashville has become sort of the number one destination 66 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:23,759 for bachelorette parties. So and I expect that has something 67 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,439 to do with the you know, the prevalence of the bars, 68 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,720 the live music, and a sense of security to be 69 00:04:30,759 --> 00:04:33,879 able to walk around while you're drunk out on the streets, 70 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,160 you know, and not have to worry about being accosted, assaulted, 71 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,800 dragged off behind a building and you know, and raped 72 00:04:41,879 --> 00:04:42,360 or something like. 73 00:04:42,399 --> 00:04:45,399 Speaker 2: I'm assuming that that's what it has to do with. 74 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: And that's probably more about the culture of Nashville, which 75 00:04:48,199 --> 00:04:51,680 is like, you know, more law and order than say 76 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:57,600 making I don't know San Francisco your destination bachelorette party, 77 00:04:57,759 --> 00:05:03,279 you know, But I digress. So this woman often ben 78 00:05:03,959 --> 00:05:07,959 running against a fellow by the name of Matt Van Epps, 79 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:13,360 and he is a former Army helicopter pilot veteran. And 80 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,839 this is the seventh Congressional District of Tennessee. And he 81 00:05:16,879 --> 00:05:19,439 did win it. He won it by like nine points, 82 00:05:19,519 --> 00:05:23,279 like fifty four to forty five percent, So almost a landslide. 83 00:05:23,319 --> 00:05:29,959 A landslide is double digits at least, But this is 84 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,480 being read as not really a win. I mean it's 85 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,600 a win, sure, I mean it's a nine point win, 86 00:05:37,959 --> 00:05:41,800 to be sure, but it's not a bigger win. And 87 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,959 it should have been a bigger win because it's a 88 00:05:46,439 --> 00:05:48,639 solid Republican district. 89 00:05:49,759 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 2: Okay. 90 00:05:50,639 --> 00:05:52,639 Speaker 1: And the reason why they held this election, by the way, 91 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:58,319 is because the Republican representative, Mark Green retired. According to 92 00:05:59,079 --> 00:06:03,240 md Kitt writing at the Federalist dot Com, even in defeat, 93 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:08,439 Democrats hailed the closer than expected election as a victory. 94 00:06:09,079 --> 00:06:13,560 So even when they lose, Democrats win, which is the 95 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,600 standard we have all become accustomed to. Obviously, this woman 96 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,439 aften Ben has been dubbed I don't know by whom, 97 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:27,079 the AOC of Tennessee, the AOC of Tennessee. Okay, so 98 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,720 a real moderate type of candidate. Oh did you hear 99 00:06:29,759 --> 00:06:32,600 there's a Democrat socialist now running for mayor of Washington, 100 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,639 DC because Mayor Bowser is not going to run for reelection. 101 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,720 So that's basically going to get decided in the Democrat primary. 102 00:06:40,639 --> 00:06:43,439 And so you got a Democrat socialist going to pull 103 00:06:43,439 --> 00:06:47,160 a Mam Danny, we shall see or okay, fine, mom 104 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:52,560 COMI either way, here is Scott Jennings on CNN. 105 00:06:54,879 --> 00:06:58,199 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, there's lessons that you learned from everything. 106 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,560 When you win, there's lessons. When you lose, there's lessons, 107 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,800 and so I'm sure they'll look and see who turned 108 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,000 out and what messages were effective and which ones weren't, 109 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,000 and that'll be something the party can move going forward. 110 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,279 It's an off your special election. The turnout matrix is 111 00:07:10,279 --> 00:07:12,480 far different than a presidential then it'll be different than 112 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,360 what comes out in November. Say, you can take nothing 113 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,720 for granted, of course, and Republicans do have historical headwinds. 114 00:07:18,759 --> 00:07:21,360 I still think they are in position to make an 115 00:07:21,399 --> 00:07:25,240 argument that their economic theories are better than the democratics theories. 116 00:07:25,439 --> 00:07:27,720 And Democrats, after all, took prices to the moon, and 117 00:07:27,759 --> 00:07:29,720 now they want to forget the last four years and 118 00:07:29,759 --> 00:07:32,480 pretend like this just started ten months ago. I think 119 00:07:32,519 --> 00:07:35,199 most voters know that's patley ridiculous. I do have a 120 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,399 slight disagreement with David. I do think we'll hear from 121 00:07:37,439 --> 00:07:39,800 her again. I think she'll run again, and I think 122 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,439 she and her brand of politics are the median Democrat. 123 00:07:43,519 --> 00:07:45,959 This is the basic Democrat you're going to get in 124 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,879 most races around the country. This person running on defund 125 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:53,519 the police, radical progressive positions. Whether you're in Nashville or Manhattan, 126 00:07:53,639 --> 00:07:56,199 or Florida or account wherever you happen to be, this 127 00:07:56,319 --> 00:07:59,160 is what the Democratic base wants the most cuckoo for 128 00:07:59,199 --> 00:08:02,199 Coco puffs, and they can find and they're gonna They're 129 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,879 gonna look at you, say, hey, this is how we 130 00:08:04,959 --> 00:08:07,279 got so close. So let's replicate it around the country. 131 00:08:07,279 --> 00:08:09,240 I think we'll hear from her in her kind for 132 00:08:09,279 --> 00:08:11,079 the next year. I don't think it'll be good for Democrats. 133 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,759 Speaker 4: We can ask you on that because you said that 134 00:08:12,839 --> 00:08:15,680 she she ran on defund the police. There were her 135 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:18,079 past comments on that, but she said that that was 136 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,000 basically when she was a private citizen, before she was 137 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,319 representing the state legislature. I mean, that wasn't like a 138 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,839 core tenant of her campaign. She talked about affordability. So 139 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,079 I think my question is is do you really think 140 00:08:28,079 --> 00:08:29,839 every that's what every Democrat looks like. I mean, I 141 00:08:29,879 --> 00:08:32,080 don't think that was the main That was something that 142 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,080 a criticism of verse obviously past comments, but that wasn't 143 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,919 the you know, tenant of her campaign or anything. 144 00:08:39,279 --> 00:08:41,799 Speaker 3: She got asked about it. Repeatedly and refused to back 145 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,600 away from it. And look, I'm just telling you, this 146 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,039 is what Democrats believe, and this is what their base wants. 147 00:08:47,039 --> 00:08:49,039 It's why she wouldn't go back on it. I was 148 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,360 just a private citizen. Oh my gosh, we've never held 149 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,600 what you said as a private citizen against you in 150 00:08:53,639 --> 00:08:56,960 a political campaign, for goodness sakes, What a ridiculous way 151 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,519 to just maintain a position that nobody likes. 152 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember there was a guy who 153 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,039 ran for North Carolina governor I think it was governor. 154 00:09:08,639 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was governor. 155 00:09:11,159 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: And remember like a whole bunch of stuff had come out, 156 00:09:14,279 --> 00:09:17,080 stuff that he had said when he was a private citizen. 157 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,799 And then like Democrats were like, this guy is so radical, 158 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,679 you can't elect him. And oh he also visited a 159 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,159 bunch of like these uh, these porn websites and stuff. 160 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: Remember what was that guy's name? 161 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: I know it was a while ago, Mark Robertson Robinson, 162 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,639 Mark Robinson, that was his name. Yeah, so now democrats 163 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,039 want the space. See, Okay, when I said defund the 164 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,039 police or globalize the into father, when I said this stuff, 165 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,399 I was just a private citizen. I didn't make it 166 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:53,159 a tenant of my campaign. It's just it's so it's 167 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,000 so expected and annoying. 168 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:56,039 Speaker 5: You know. 169 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,639 Speaker 1: Stories are powerful. 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Visit Creative Video 187 00:10:57,519 --> 00:11:02,279 dot Com a message from us who says I hadn't 188 00:11:02,279 --> 00:11:05,960 really heard of Ben aften Ben until a week or 189 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,200 two ago when it came out that she hates her district. 190 00:11:08,519 --> 00:11:11,000 Every position of hers I have seen makes me think 191 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,799 that she would have been rejected by the squad when 192 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,600 she got to Washington for being too much of a 193 00:11:18,639 --> 00:11:23,120 wacky leftist. That's too far, that's too far. 194 00:11:23,399 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: Aften Ben. 195 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,399 Speaker 1: Dubbed the AOC of Tennessee. She actually tried to keep 196 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,679 the focus on pocketbook issues, audaciously claiming that she would 197 00:11:34,799 --> 00:11:38,919 quote stand up to both parties to make life more affordable. 198 00:11:39,039 --> 00:11:41,480 That's how that works, you see, you stand up to 199 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:46,480 the parties and then everybody has more money. This is 200 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,639 what I told the Queen City Republicans when I spoke 201 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:56,720 to them. Hammer away at affordability. Just because Zoron Mamdanni 202 00:11:57,759 --> 00:12:03,639 used that word as like the totality of his campaign 203 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,120 doesn't mean you can't use it either, right, you can 204 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:07,519 use it. 205 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,039 Speaker 2: Everybody can use it. 206 00:12:09,799 --> 00:12:12,879 Speaker 1: Talk about affordability, talk about bringing prices down, talk about 207 00:12:13,039 --> 00:12:15,720 letting people keep more of their own money, and then 208 00:12:15,759 --> 00:12:18,080 tying it back to the policies of Democrats that have 209 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,240 raised the price on everything. Why does it cost so 210 00:12:20,279 --> 00:12:24,080 much money to live in Democrat areas? Why they're policies. 211 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,480 It's a very simple argument. To make right, you got 212 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,279 to hammer away. So this is what she thought she 213 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:35,080 would do, is just affordability, affordability, affordability. I hate Nashville, affordability, affordability, 214 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,399 I hate country music. Affordability, affordability. 215 00:12:38,519 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: It did not work. 216 00:12:40,639 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: She has supported taxpayer funded Medicaid for illegal aliens. She 217 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:49,480 has supported government run healthcare as well. She labeled Tennessee 218 00:12:49,639 --> 00:12:55,159 racist and god forsaken, which is I guess that is 219 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,360 one way to try to win an election in Tennessee. 220 00:12:58,759 --> 00:13:02,919 Talked about how she loathed entry music, her anti police passed, 221 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,799 and her harassment of ice agents most likely did not 222 00:13:05,879 --> 00:13:09,759 sit too well either. Neither did her systemic racism stick 223 00:13:10,519 --> 00:13:13,879 and her science confounding position that men can give birth. 224 00:13:15,399 --> 00:13:22,320 But but Democrats and media, but I repeat myself, they 225 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,240 think this is actually a very good sign for Democrats 226 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,519 losing by nine points in this district. Here's Harry Inten 227 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:30,200 at CNN. 228 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,279 Speaker 5: Let's talk about the numbers. Republicans should be running for 229 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,759 the hells this morning, because the blue wave is building. 230 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,559 My dear friend mister Berman, what are we talking about here? Well, 231 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,240 Matt Vanipps the Republican candidate, he won it by nine. 232 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,639 But this is a district that Donald Trump won by 233 00:13:47,639 --> 00:13:51,559 twenty two points, fifteen points, seventeen points. This is a 234 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,559 thirteen point gain for the Democrats in terms. 235 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 2: Of the margin. 236 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,919 Speaker 5: And excuse time for Republicans is ova because I hear 237 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,159 all about these special elections, all the turnout so low, 238 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,679 it's not representative of what happened in the midterm election. 239 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,879 The turnout last night in Tennessee seventh District was equal 240 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,679 so the turnout in the twenty twenty two midterm election. 241 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,240 So the blue wave it seems to be building right 242 00:14:17,279 --> 00:14:19,600 out of center of Tennessee. 243 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: Interesting, So in turn of the numbers, the turnout looked 244 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,080 like a regular midterm election, not a special election. 245 00:14:25,279 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 5: Exactly right, exactly right, And of course we have a 246 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:29,759 midterm what about eleven months? 247 00:14:29,759 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: All right? 248 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: What have we seen in terms of trends in all 249 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,360 the special elections the last year? 250 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,159 Speaker 5: Okay, you know, I wouldn't necessarily give a hooona hollering 251 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,720 about one special election in Tennessee. I love the people 252 00:14:38,759 --> 00:14:41,840 in Central Tennessee, but central Tennessee is nothing special compared 253 00:14:41,879 --> 00:14:42,720 to the rest of the country. 254 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: But what we see happening. 255 00:14:44,759 --> 00:14:47,639 Speaker 5: You make a look here, okay, twenty twenty five US 256 00:14:47,639 --> 00:14:50,600 House special elections. DEM's out running Kamala Harris. 257 00:14:50,919 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: A lot of blue here, a lot of blue, which 258 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:54,960 is all right, I'm gonna start. He's now got a 259 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,159 graphic up on the screen. Also, his accent is pretty annoying. 260 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:04,000 I think he's going his accent is becoming more pronounced anyway, 261 00:15:04,039 --> 00:15:05,960 So what he's what he's gotten now is a chart 262 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:12,759 of the various US House special elections Arizona, Florida two 263 00:15:12,799 --> 00:15:17,879 and Florida actually won in Tennessee from yesterday, Texas and Virginia. 264 00:15:18,879 --> 00:15:25,360 And these were seats that all five, one, two, three, four, 265 00:15:25,159 --> 00:15:31,399 five or six of these races, Democrats outran Kamala Harris. 266 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:37,279 They outperformed the Democrat candidate for these seats outperformed Kamala 267 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:42,879 Harris by double digits, which it's not really surprising. Have 268 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,480 you seen Kamala Harris and did you see that campaign? 269 00:15:46,639 --> 00:15:51,159 She wasn't Look I say this all the time, candidates 270 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,759 matter often. Ben is not a good candidate. She wasn't 271 00:15:55,799 --> 00:15:58,600 a good candidate for this seat. I agree with Scott 272 00:15:58,679 --> 00:16:01,320 Jennings though she'll be back. She's not going anywhere. She's 273 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,360 going to run again for something, maybe governor or US 274 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,080 Senate or something. She's going to run for something else. 275 00:16:06,679 --> 00:16:13,519 This is who Democrats want. And if the economic situation, 276 00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:16,399 I feel like, if the economic situation in America does 277 00:16:16,399 --> 00:16:21,120 not improve for the average voter, then this very well 278 00:16:21,159 --> 00:16:26,399 could be very, very bad for Republicans. You know, even 279 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,360 Scott Jennings pointed out Republicans have historical headwinds against them. 280 00:16:30,559 --> 00:16:35,399 Every party that controls the White House loses seats in 281 00:16:35,559 --> 00:16:41,679 the midterm elections. And Trump voters are going to have 282 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:46,200 to turn out for their congressional races like they turn 283 00:16:46,279 --> 00:16:49,679 out for him, and so far, I'm not so sure 284 00:16:49,679 --> 00:16:52,120 that we've seen evidence that they do that. They vote 285 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,159 for Trump and then they sit home during the midterms. 286 00:16:55,799 --> 00:16:59,279 So if you know, if you want to see Trump impeached, 287 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,519 then go ahead and you keep doing that. 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So, this is 316 00:18:35,599 --> 00:18:43,400 North Carolina state senate who made international news after running 317 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,960 for an office that she knew she had no chance 318 00:18:46,079 --> 00:18:50,359 to win, is now throwing her hat back in the ring. 319 00:18:51,519 --> 00:18:52,319 Speaker 2: This time. 320 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: The Democrat is running in the GOP primary. Her name 321 00:18:59,039 --> 00:19:02,880 is Kate Bass. She's running against Tim Moore in the 322 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,680 fourteenth congressional district, and she is framing it as another 323 00:19:06,759 --> 00:19:12,039 protest of the state's jerry mandard map, which is that's 324 00:19:12,079 --> 00:19:15,200 just reported as if it's true that it's a jerryman 325 00:19:15,319 --> 00:19:16,839 that the fourteenth is jerrymandered. 326 00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 2: It's not. 327 00:19:19,559 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: The fourteenth district is not jerrymandered. So yeah, you should 328 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,880 not be using the term jerrymandered with the with the 329 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:34,039 political implications that the word carries with it. You could 330 00:19:34,079 --> 00:19:38,559 just say as a protest of the state's map, or 331 00:19:38,599 --> 00:19:41,920 you could say in protest of what she calls a 332 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:47,640 jerrymandered map. Either way, she is attempting to unseat Tim Moore, 333 00:19:48,079 --> 00:19:50,839 who was first elected to this seat in twenty twenty four. 334 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,559 She argued that the way that the map is currently drawn, 335 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:59,720 she has a better chance running as a progressive Republican 336 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:08,519 than any type of Democrat. A progressive Republican. Okay, what 337 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:12,839 does that mean? What does that mean? I sure do 338 00:20:13,039 --> 00:20:16,319 hope that if there is ever a debate in the 339 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,119 primary between these two, or if she does interviews, I 340 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,680 sure hope that some people ask her. And here's an 341 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:26,880 easy question, easy question for a reporter or somebody a 342 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,200 voter at a town hall to ask, are there any 343 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,599 planks in the Republican platform that. 344 00:20:33,559 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: You do agree with? 345 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: Right, You've registered as a Republican to try to beat 346 00:20:39,279 --> 00:20:45,119 Tim Moore, But is there anything in the Republican platform 347 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,119 that you agree with? Or are you literally a rhino? 348 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:57,519 A Republican in name only? She's lying, right, She's lying. 349 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,920 Her first act in her run is to lie, is 350 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,759 to say I'm not really a Republican, but I will 351 00:21:05,759 --> 00:21:08,599 register as one so I can get a primary, and 352 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,640 then I'll try to beat him that way. North Carolina's 353 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,319 GOP weighed in they put out a statement, Kate barrs 354 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:22,519 Farce is insulting voters' intelligence. Across North Carolina, we have 355 00:21:22,599 --> 00:21:26,839 seen former Democrats realize the socialist leadership infecting the party 356 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,400 no longer represents them, whether it's Representative Tricia Cotham and 357 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:36,039 Mecklenberg County, she flipped Democrat to Republican. Numerous county commissioners 358 00:21:36,039 --> 00:21:38,839 in Robinson County right there, I think three of them 359 00:21:39,039 --> 00:21:43,240 that flipped, or a sheriff in New Hanover County. She 360 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,960 isn't putting together a campaign about ideas and solutions in 361 00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:50,559 her own party because today's Democrats cannot relate to the 362 00:21:50,599 --> 00:21:56,400 middle class and working families. So she's not running on 363 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:01,119 a platform of like the Democrat Party left me. She's 364 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,839 running on a platform of I'm a progressive running in 365 00:22:05,839 --> 00:22:09,799 the Republican primary because I can't win as a Democrat. 366 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,440 Like that's so you're lying, you're trying to deceive voters. 367 00:22:16,599 --> 00:22:20,680 By the way, the primary is in March, March third, 368 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:27,960 twenty twenty six. And then there's this US Attorney Russ 369 00:22:28,079 --> 00:22:34,400 Ferguson announced a series of actions to enhance election integrity. 370 00:22:34,839 --> 00:22:39,880 This was prompted, I think by story at WBTV about 371 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:45,759 North Carolina DMV that has been registering non citizens to vote, 372 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,359 which I'm told doesn't happen. But I guess we are 373 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:56,119 at the stage where we get told first it's not happening, 374 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,279 and then second stage is okay, it is happening. 375 00:22:58,880 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 2: But it's not a lot. 376 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's where we are now, 377 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,599 and in the final stage is okay, it is happening 378 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:11,319 quite a bit, but it's good. That's usually the way 379 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,079 these stories progress, right, happens with voter I d We 380 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,799 noticed this pattern with voter I d so. WBTV investigates 381 00:23:19,839 --> 00:23:22,920 reported last month that Russ Ferguson, US attorney for the 382 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,880 Western District of North Carolina, accused the state's DMV of 383 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,519 illegally registering six non citizens to vote see it's only six, 384 00:23:32,279 --> 00:23:37,759 it's only six people. In interviews with WBTV, two of 385 00:23:37,799 --> 00:23:41,920 the people that were incorrectly registered to vote said they 386 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,839 actually had no idea that they had been registered. Documents 387 00:23:46,839 --> 00:23:49,720 obtained by WBTV indicated that most of the people did 388 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,680 not appear to be aware of the registration. None of 389 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,640 the people the six voted actually that none of them 390 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,640 ever voted. See so it's so it's there's only six 391 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:01,880 people and they didn't even vote. 392 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:02,799 Speaker 2: It's not a big deal. 393 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: The implications of an incorrect voter registration, though, can be 394 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,039 enormous for people in the process of obtaining their US citizenship. 395 00:24:12,759 --> 00:24:19,319 Why well, if you've registered to vote, you are claiming 396 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,960 essentially that you are a citizen, right because only citizens 397 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,799 can vote in North Carolina. In some jurisdictions they let 398 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,319 non citizens vote in their local races because they have 399 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:37,480 suicidal empathy in those jurisdictions. So in North Carolina, if 400 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,160 you're registered to vote, that's sort of a de facto 401 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,119 admission that you are a citizen, which lying about being 402 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,359 an American citizen when you are not is actually a felony, 403 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,279 and that may jeopardize your ability to become a US citizen. 404 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,160 And by the way, there's no distinction made as to 405 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,480 whether or not these people are legal or illegal aliens. 406 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,160 So if assuming that all six of these people are 407 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:11,000 in the country legally and maybe they're trying to become citizens, 408 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,440 this could actually really screw up their chances. See, this 409 00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:18,480 is why this stuff matters as well. It's not you're 410 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,160 not being empathetic, you're not being helpful. You do not 411 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,920 occupy the morally superior position by saying this stuff isn't 412 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,559 worthy of our time, because for those six people that 413 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,559 now could potentially lose their path to citizenship because of 414 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,759 some mistake that DMV made, if it was a mistake, 415 00:25:39,559 --> 00:25:44,039 that's not an ethical position to take lefties. All right, 416 00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:45,880 If you're listening to this show, you know I try 417 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,680 to keep up with all sorts of current events, and 418 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,759 I know you do too, And you've probably heard me 419 00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:54,039 say get your news from multiple sources. 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The individuals responsible for it 440 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,759 wanted to vote in your place, as they know how 441 00:27:01,799 --> 00:27:06,079 you'll vote doing it that way, right. So there's no 442 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,680 indication though by the voter records that anybody voted in 443 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,480 their names. Okay, so they got registered to vote, but 444 00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:13,759 there's no record of them voting. That would be in 445 00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:17,720 the Board of Elections database, which WBTV went and looked 446 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,160 at and said that there's no evidence that anybody ever 447 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,440 voted under their names. But this is a problem obviously, 448 00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:29,359 because these are just the six that they caught that 449 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:35,160 were identified under federal laws. DMVs across the country are 450 00:27:35,319 --> 00:27:39,079 able to help fill out voter registration forms for people 451 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:44,039 getting identification documents. In North Carolina, a person can fill 452 00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:47,319 out a voter registration form at the DMV and the 453 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,599 agency will then forward that form to the appropriate county 454 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,680 board to complete registration. So this is the problem, is 455 00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:02,039 that you've got DMVs across the country. So they found 456 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:09,079 six in North Carolina that they were looking for, and 457 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,839 that means also that this is probably occurring in other states, 458 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:20,359 either by accident, by technical glitching, or intentionally. Right. But 459 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,920 the other thing, though, is that this was supposed to 460 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:29,799 have been caught. One would think at the Board of Elections. 461 00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:34,519 And then also remember that your jury pool is pulled 462 00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:41,240 from the Board of Elections registrations. Right, So if you're 463 00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:45,599 registered to vote in Mecklenburg County and you are not 464 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,640 a citizen and you get called in for jury duty, 465 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,880 you can say I'm not a citizen and then you 466 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,960 get out of jury duty, which, like, that's a problem, 467 00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:55,079 that should be a flag. But it's not being caught 468 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:55,640 there either. 469 00:28:57,079 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: See. I see these stories. 470 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,039 Speaker 1: And I think, wow, well, there are a lot of 471 00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:06,920 opportunities to clean up the voter rolls that are ignored 472 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:09,400 or missed for whatever reason. 473 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: And so it's hard to know. 474 00:29:12,519 --> 00:29:15,799 Speaker 1: It's hard to have confidence when you get examples like 475 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,640 this of how a system is supposed to function but 476 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,960 is not functioning. It's not catching these people, it's not 477 00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:27,400 catching the errors, and any attempt to catch the errors 478 00:29:28,119 --> 00:29:31,640 or to prevent them in the first place, get you 479 00:29:31,799 --> 00:29:36,079 branded as a racist or something that you're trying to, 480 00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:41,200 you know, thwart the democracy or something now from the 481 00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:44,559 press release here from the US Attorney's Office. 482 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 2: In July, the US. 483 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: Attorney initiated an inquiry to the commissioner of the DMV 484 00:29:50,319 --> 00:29:54,359 following a report by Homeland Security Investigations that the DMV 485 00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:58,319 permitted ineligible individuals like illegal aliens, to register to vote 486 00:29:58,319 --> 00:30:02,799 at the DMV, sometimes without that individual's knowledge. The investigation 487 00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:07,599 found individuals were erroneously given citizen ID cards for years, 488 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,559 and some were registered to vote even after informing the 489 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:17,839 DMV they were not citizens. The involved DMV examiners initially 490 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,720 blamed the error on a system glitch, but the DMV 491 00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:28,880 later admitted quote the online system doesn't verify citizenship status. 492 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,680 The US Attorney asked the DMV commissioner to review these 493 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:38,079 the registration processes to ensure non eligible voters were not 494 00:30:38,119 --> 00:30:42,039 being registered to vote. The DMV agreed to investigate and 495 00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:45,880 found that individuals had been registered to vote due to 496 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:52,359 errors by DMV examiners. So what is the press really 497 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:57,480 saying that the examiners blamed a system glitch, but it 498 00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:04,559 was in fact their mistake. That's another problem. No, why 499 00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:08,519 are they lying or were they just mistaken? Did they 500 00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:09,200 make a mistake? 501 00:31:09,799 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: DMV found aos. 502 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,319 Speaker 1: Let me back up a sentence. These errors included mistakenly 503 00:31:18,599 --> 00:31:23,039 marking individuals as US citizens, which then bypassed the necessary 504 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,799 legal presence questions and allowed voter registration. So it was 505 00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:30,240 the examiner who said they were a citizen, and then 506 00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:35,359 that jumped ahead in the questionnaire, and so those controls 507 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,920 didn't work. The DMV also found a system error that 508 00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:42,519 lasted for three months and permitted ineligible individuals to register 509 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,920 to vote. Now the DMV has agreed to make some changes. 510 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,799 They're going to issue a statewide reminder to all of 511 00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:52,880 their examiners on the protocols and the safeguards to ensure 512 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:58,160 proper registration. They're going to do some new training for examiners. 513 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,880 They're going to modernize DMV technology to streamline processes and 514 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:09,400 reduce examiner errors, hiring additional personnel to increase accurate input 515 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:14,319 of sensitive data, actively pursuing a technical solution to effectively 516 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:20,559 integrate citizenship checks into dmb's online and Kiosk voter registration 517 00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:22,079 application systems. 518 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 2: So all of that is good. 519 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: So if we're going to get some new controls and 520 00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:30,960 checks on this stuff, good job. US attorney Rus Ferguson. 521 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,359 Speaker 2: All right, that'll do it for this episode. 522 00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. 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