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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to political beatdown. I'm Ben mysel is joined by

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Cohen. I'm reminded by the song we didn't start

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<v Speaker 1>the fire. It seems right now, Michael Cohen, since the election,

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<v Speaker 1>in particular, the world is a powder keg. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we're seeing a right wing leader in South Korea and

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<v Speaker 1>President Yun try to declare martial law. We see pro

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<v Speaker 1>democracy protests in Georgia. We can see what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in Syria as rebels there took over Aleppo, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the first time they made serious advancements since twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got Vladimir Putin struggling with some of his own

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<v Speaker 1>issues there, but making it very clear on state media

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<v Speaker 1>or through state media, how happy he is about Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's picks. You've got the press into Mexico pushing back

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<v Speaker 1>against Donald Trump. You've got tumult in Canada. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>the parliament disbanding in France right now. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all of these dominos, Michael Cohen, are no coincidence. America

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<v Speaker 1>is integral to a stable world order. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the messages that Putin wanted to get out through an

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<v Speaker 1>oligarch on state run DV is that any negotiations or

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<v Speaker 1>discussions about Ukraine must be done within the broader context

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<v Speaker 1>of a new world order with Russia.

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<v Speaker 2>As its leader.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about that on the last episode of Political Beatdown.

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<v Speaker 3>They leak that through the Financial Times, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I understand that, you know, for lots of people who

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<v Speaker 3>tuned out, I actually don't fully understand how they did.

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<v Speaker 3>But people who tuned out, maybe this was all hypothetical,

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<v Speaker 3>this was all games, this was all rhetoric, but you

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<v Speaker 3>see the reality abroad. And then also Cohen, We've been

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<v Speaker 3>doing a lot of videos that I don't really enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>doing the f around and find out series of union

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<v Speaker 3>leaders who believe that deals that Trump told them we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna happen, they're now pissed that Trump's coming out and

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<v Speaker 3>saying that these deals shouldn't happen. You've got black Republicans

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<v Speaker 3>upset that there's only one black individual who's on the cabinet.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got communities like in Georgia, for example, that have

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<v Speaker 3>huge amounts of migrant populations in the carpentry industry, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're saying, we're not gonna be able to sustain ourselves.

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<v Speaker 3>In places like Marjorie Taylor Green's district that overwhelmingly voted

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<v Speaker 3>for Donald Trump. Same thing, mass deportations potentially starting in Miami,

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<v Speaker 3>so and that was an area that turned Trump. So

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<v Speaker 3>Cohen a lot going on right now, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>chaos going on, and I think it's important while the

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<v Speaker 3>media is still obsessed with I don't know, buying into

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<v Speaker 3>Republican frameworks about Hunter Biden or whatever stupid things they're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about, we need to orient our lens, our microphone,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, on what's really happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, look, one of the things that you and

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<v Speaker 2>I have both said for a year and now since

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<v Speaker 2>we started this beatdown brigade, if you have a strong America,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a strong world. If you have a weak America,

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<v Speaker 2>you will have a weak world. And we're seeing that

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<v Speaker 2>right now. I can't tell you the number of people

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<v Speaker 2>that are walking around right now, all absolutely just like zombies,

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<v Speaker 2>not sure what's going to happen. Is this related? Is

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<v Speaker 2>it not related? And then Ben, as you said, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not talking about things that are going to affect you

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<v Speaker 2>and us. They're talking about things that still are on

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<v Speaker 2>the gripe list of the now president elects campaign. Hunter Biden,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden. We're talking about the pardon. I mean, we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about everything that really has no effect on us.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, in one of the podcasts that I have

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<v Speaker 2>coming up, one of the things that I do is

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<v Speaker 2>I draw an analogy, which is what happened here? How

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<v Speaker 2>did so many people end up deciding that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>is the better candidate? His messaging was better. I'll grant

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<v Speaker 2>you that it was shorter. It talked about gasoline and groceries.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's what they missed. They were looking at the

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<v Speaker 2>trees while ignoring the forest, plain and simple. They got blindsided.

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<v Speaker 2>They got attracted to the shiny object right in front

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<v Speaker 2>of them. It's like, you know, like what you do

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<v Speaker 2>to a baby, right when the baby needs to be distracted,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you put something in front of their face,

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<v Speaker 2>you iglated set of keys and so on. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>happened here. And now, all of a sudden, you see

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<v Speaker 2>all this regret coming out, and I say, fuck you.

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<v Speaker 2>I say to them, fuck you. You don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>right now to regret. When you turn around and you

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<v Speaker 2>exactly fell for the con. When you're talking about steel

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<v Speaker 2>workers now pissed because they were there backing. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the candidate Trump, and so they did gut punch. Trump

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<v Speaker 2>upsets local union leaders by opposing US steel in the

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<v Speaker 2>Pond deal. How about all of the Muslim Americans, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's in Pennsylvania all the way to Michigan. How about

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<v Speaker 2>all the Muslim Americans that are angry at this administration

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<v Speaker 2>over how things are going in the Gaza, and so

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<v Speaker 2>they elected to vote for Trump or not to vote

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<v Speaker 2>at all. We call that protest votes. Right, Well, guess what,

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<v Speaker 2>Look at what you have now with a Mike Huckabee,

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<v Speaker 2>with Mike Johnson, with the entire group turning around, and

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<v Speaker 2>Jared Kushner talking about leveling Gaza and turning it into

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<v Speaker 2>expensive vacation homes. Seriously, you got what you wanted. Now

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<v Speaker 2>it's our responsibility ours to stay informed, stay active, stay

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<v Speaker 2>in the know here on the Midas Touch Network, on

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<v Speaker 2>my Michael Cohen YouTube channel, on my Maya Kulpa podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>stay in the know, because if and I use that term,

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<v Speaker 2>if if things go bad, you're gonna need to know

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<v Speaker 2>what we can all do together as the collective community

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<v Speaker 2>that Ben talks about all the time with such loving,

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<v Speaker 2>with such loving grace. Right, we are a community here

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<v Speaker 2>and our job is going to be to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that our voices are heard, and that if that means

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<v Speaker 2>we all have to show up and start protesting, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what we're going to need to do. So Michael Cohen.

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<v Speaker 3>Here was the headline, gut punch. Trump upsets local union

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<v Speaker 3>leaders by opposing the US Steel Nippon a deal. The

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<v Speaker 3>Japanese company that's made this fourteen billion dollar offer to

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<v Speaker 3>buy US Steel. US Steel says that's going to have

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<v Speaker 3>to lay off people if it doesn't accept this offer.

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<v Speaker 3>The article goes on to talk about a guy named Jason.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy, Jason Za guy was there at all these

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<v Speaker 3>Trump rallies in Pittsburgh, rallying all the union workers to

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<v Speaker 3>vote for Donald Trump. Well, this is a controversial deal nationwide,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not contraver. Within their local two to to seven,

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<v Speaker 3>they support this deal ninety five percent. And Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 3>led him on to believe that he was going to

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<v Speaker 3>support this deal. Then Donald Trump posted, I'm strongly against this.

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<v Speaker 3>I do not want to do this deal. Buy or beware,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, And that's going to basically cost as a

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<v Speaker 3>guy and probably the people he represents their jobs, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we see, you know, this guy Sean O'Brien.

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<v Speaker 3>You know who I've been focusing on a lot. He's

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<v Speaker 3>the head of the Teamsters. There seems there's not an

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<v Speaker 3>invite to mar A Lago that he refuses to accept.

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<v Speaker 3>He's always there. Thank you, Donald Trump, Thank you Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>He refused to endorse President Biden or Vice President Kamala Harris,

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<v Speaker 3>despite Biden and Harris being the most pro union, pro worker,

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<v Speaker 3>bottom up, middle out in the history. And here's where

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<v Speaker 3>you need leaders, because I get it. Look, sometimes rank

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<v Speaker 3>and file people you know, are very busy. They're getting

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<v Speaker 3>all this disinformation streamed at them. They're working lots of

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<v Speaker 3>hours to support their family. But leaders need to step

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<v Speaker 3>up and lead. But instead you've got Sean O'Brien given

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<v Speaker 3>the all thumbs up with Donald Trump over and over again.

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<v Speaker 3>And everybody knew that Elon Musk would basically be serving

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<v Speaker 3>as a co president for Donald Trump. Maybe the visuals

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<v Speaker 3>of Elon Musk next to Trump are a bit jarring,

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<v Speaker 3>but like the rhetoric here, I'm about to play you

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<v Speaker 3>by Elon Musk is the same thing that Trump says.

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<v Speaker 3>They've repeatedly said.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you say that? Because one of our brigators

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<v Speaker 2>here Brenda. She literally it's almost like she was reading

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<v Speaker 2>my mind. It's right, I don't get it. You voted

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<v Speaker 2>for him, Now you want to complain about it. Seriously,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not how it works. Now. What we have to do, Ben,

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<v Speaker 2>what we need to do with our brigaders is make

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<v Speaker 2>sure again everybody stays in the know. And don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that you do by watching the news elsewhere, because there's

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<v Speaker 2>so much mess information and bullshit that's going on. There's

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<v Speaker 2>so much lying that's going on. We may need to

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<v Speaker 2>be incredibly vocal when it comes to the midterm elections

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<v Speaker 2>because the way our founding fathers established this system, we

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<v Speaker 2>actually have a lot more power than people think, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to possibly we might have to really make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that we use it so that we don't end

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<v Speaker 2>up losing our democracy. We don't end up losing our rights.

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<v Speaker 2>And trust me, if there's anybody that knows about losing

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<v Speaker 2>their constitutional rights, it's me.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if someone were to say throughout their lives,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I hate Midas touch, I hate Ben, I

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<v Speaker 3>hate the Midas Mighty, and repeat it over and over again,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they ran on a campaign and then they

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<v Speaker 3>said I hate you, but I'm gonna do great things

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<v Speaker 3>for you. Okay, I hate you, but I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 3>great things for you. That's basically the equivalent of what

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<v Speaker 3>Trump did, you know with all these different groups that

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<v Speaker 3>he somehow convinced of over Mede. Trump's come out before

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<v Speaker 3>and said how much he hates unions. He laughs at

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<v Speaker 3>the idea of union workers getting fired for striking. His

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<v Speaker 3>views and Elon Musks on unions are aligned where they

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<v Speaker 3>don't think that unions should exist.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me share with you.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a video that was well known about Elon Musk,

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<v Speaker 3>and Elon Musk always says these types of things. Trump

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<v Speaker 3>says stuff like this. Here's Musk's view about unions. He

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<v Speaker 3>says that he doesn't even think, he doesn't believe even

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<v Speaker 3>in the concept of unions. And here's why let's play

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<v Speaker 3>this clip.

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<v Speaker 4>I disagree with the idea of unions, but perhaps for

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<v Speaker 4>a reason that is different than people may expects, which

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<v Speaker 4>is I just don't like anything which creates kind of

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<v Speaker 4>a lords and peasants sort of thing. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>the unions naturally try to create negativity in a company

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<v Speaker 4>and create a sort of lords and peasants situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Tesla factory workers in California are working so hard they're

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<v Speaker 3>passing out on the production line. How do people buy that? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're in a union, an Elon Musk, who's worth

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred billion dollars, an actual lord versus peasant dynamic

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<v Speaker 3>before you, and that the unions are just simply negotiating

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<v Speaker 3>so that you can get fair pay, fair pay so

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<v Speaker 3>you can have a living wage, so you could literally live.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you're gonna go with Elon Musk who says

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<v Speaker 3>that unions create a lord's and peasants dynamic, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're seeing now all of these emboldened billionaires right

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<v Speaker 3>all out of the shadows now saying where the oligarchs here?

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<v Speaker 3>We are everybody, look how rich we are. And they're

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<v Speaker 3>flaunting it now to Cohen, did you notice that, whether

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<v Speaker 3>it's you know, a Jeff Bezos or others of that ilk,

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<v Speaker 3>they are doing the oligark dance that we saw in Russia.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they're like, oh, well, I'm very very confident

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<v Speaker 3>this is what Bezos said. I'm very very confident that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking forward to a Trump term because I just

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<v Speaker 3>think there's so much regulation right now that's really anti business. Dude,

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<v Speaker 3>you're worth three hundred billion dollars, and you amassed massive

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<v Speaker 3>wealth while Biden was in office as well, which regulations existed.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be clear, though, Let's be clear about something. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>He made over eighty plus billion dollars since Trump won

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<v Speaker 2>tax breaks, they're talking about getting rid of regulation. What

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<v Speaker 2>are we doing? What is what is going on here?

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<v Speaker 2>historically what every single president does. You take all of

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<v Speaker 2>cabinet all the way down. It's like a thousand plus

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<v Speaker 2>positions that need to be filled, and that includes everybody

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<v Speaker 2>daily basis and then they vet them. Well, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>what happened with us. In twenty sixteen, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>that has all of the open slots with a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of lines underneath each one. Fill in the names of

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<v Speaker 2>anybody that you think would be good for that spot. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>so am I going to say, Oh, yeah, Attorney General?

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<v Speaker 2>How about Ben Marcellus. He's a lawyer, he represented Colin Kaepernick,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a smart guy, he teaches at USC. Sounds good

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<v Speaker 2>they turn around they ask him, Hey, Ben, how many

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<v Speaker 2>trials have you been a prosecutor? Right? And he says no, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe don't. Oh, you know what, Ben's good with the checkbook.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's make him secretary of the Treasury. Come on, this

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<v Speaker 2>is what's happening here. And every single person it's either

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<v Speaker 2>Linda McMahon, right, who gave Trump many millions of dollars

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<v Speaker 2>with her husband Vince McMahon of the WWE. McMahon's let's

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<v Speaker 2>give her education. Let's give this one that one. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>take the entire team over at Fox News and let's

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<v Speaker 2>bring them into the White House, because these are people

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<v Speaker 3>You mentioned my representation of Colin Kaepernick. One of the

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<v Speaker 3>people identified this is a parallel to now with ownership

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<v Speaker 3>with the billionaire owners over the labor because people imagined

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<v Speaker 3>and the billionaire owners would make them think that is.

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<v Speaker 3>And so the flashy lifestyle and the Lamborghinis and the

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<v Speaker 3>the real lords are treating you like the peasant and

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<v Speaker 3>are stopping you from advancing. What Donald Trump was able

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<v Speaker 3>to do was to convince basically people who he's keeping

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<v Speaker 3>in peasant like conditions that he's one of them. But

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<v Speaker 3>ultimately he is the biggest voice of the lords, the

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<v Speaker 3>oligard class in the United States of America that is

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<v Speaker 3>directly screwing these people. And who is he appointing to

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<v Speaker 3>his cabinet? Who is he appointing to senior administration officials?

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<v Speaker 3>Billionaires about nine of them already, nine billionaires. People who

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<v Speaker 3>don't even have experience in the areas, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>a billionaire who's now running the United States Navy, who

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<v Speaker 3>runs a hedge fund, who was never in the navy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you have a deputy.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, he's a friend. He's a friend of

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<v Speaker 3>Not in the navy doesn't change that deputy is a deputy,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. I mean, I'm a friend of yours. Would

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<v Speaker 3>you want me to be the head of the Navy.

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<v Speaker 2>No? But he did marry a Dallas cowboy cheerleader.

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<v Speaker 3>He married a Dallas cowboy cheerleader. But going to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Point that I by the way, he's a very smart guy,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're not wrong. I mean, you know, listen, as

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<v Speaker 2>rubber ducky and a boat. And now all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>the secretary of the Navy. Look, I used to watch

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<v Speaker 2>Star Trek as a child. You're gonna put me in

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<v Speaker 2>charge of Space Force. I mean, you know, at some

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<v Speaker 2>point in time, we could have so much fun, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>poking at this thing. The problem. This isn't supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be funny. This is this is our country, this is

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<v Speaker 2>our protection, this is our national security. It's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I used to have multiple firearms I was licensed to carry.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that now you're gonna put me in charge of

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<v Speaker 2>the FBI? Come on, my dad's a surgeon. My dad's

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<v Speaker 2>a head and neck reconstructive surgeon. You're gonna make me

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<v Speaker 2>the head of the HSS. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, people are angry, and I think that one of

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<v Speaker 3>the fundamental misunderstandings by the Harris campaign was that people,

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<v Speaker 3>actually a lot of them, didn't want to go forward.

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<v Speaker 3>They weren't looking for the hope. They were looking to

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<v Speaker 3>vent their anger at somebody, right, and Donald Trump was saying, look,

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<v Speaker 3>they're eating your cats and dogs. It's the migrants, it's

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<v Speaker 3>this group, it's trans people. Here here, here's who did

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<v Speaker 3>this to you. But it was always Trump. It's the Kaiser,

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<v Speaker 3>so same moment, right, of the usual suspects. It's Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the one doing it to you. And it's Trump

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<v Speaker 3>policies that put you in this position. That's what needs

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, Ben, No, I'm sorry. We put ourselves in

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<v Speaker 2>this position because I want to delay you a shiny

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<v Speaker 3>I want to debate that with you. We got to

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<v Speaker 3>take our first quick break of the show. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to remind everyone about Michael Cohen's YouTube channel at the

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Cohen Show. Go to at the Michael Cohen Show now.

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<v Speaker 3>Also make sure you subscribe to the Maya Culpa Blue

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<v Speaker 3>We held a lovely live. It was fun seeing it

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<v Speaker 3>everyone at that line. We have a recording of it

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<v Speaker 3>in case you missed it that Zoom meeting, but join

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<v Speaker 3>us in the next Zoom meeting next week. We would

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<v Speaker 3>love to see there, Colin, we're going to debate that

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<v Speaker 3>we got to take our first quick break.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the show. When I was in my early twenties,

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<v Speaker 2>I developed an ear infection that caused me to lose,

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<v Speaker 2>believe it or not, more than eighty percent of my hearing,

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<v Speaker 2>and since then it's actually gotten worse. But the truth

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<v Speaker 2>Despite my dad, who's an odal eringologist and a diplomat

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<v Speaker 2>in headingeck reconstructive surgery. He's an NT surgeon. He sent

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<v Speaker 2>then I got my empty hearing aid and I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be happier. My wife and my children couldn't be happier.

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<v Speaker 2>You know why, because they don't have to keep repeating themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>and my friends they don't worry where they sit anymore

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<v Speaker 2>at the table because I can hear now from both sides,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why I'm excited to say that this podcast

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<v Speaker 2>is sponsored by Hearing. Empty Hearing is an FDA registered

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<v Speaker 2>rechargeable hearing aid that costs a fraction of what typical

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<v Speaker 2>that I have in my ear right now. It costs

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<v Speaker 2>over ninety percent less than clinic hearing aids. The Neo

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<v Speaker 2>fits right inside the ear, so no one will even

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<v Speaker 2>know that it's there. Plus plus, Empty Hearing just launched

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<v Speaker 2>the Neo Excess Empty Hearing, smallest hearing aid ever. Empty

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<v Speaker 2>Hearing recently cut their price in half. I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>means that you're gonna get their high quality, rechargeable digital

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<v Speaker 2>hearing aid for only two hundred and ninety seven dollars

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<v Speaker 2>a pair. In fact, I called Ben immediately after to

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<v Speaker 2>tell them how great that they are. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>it's just as good as premium quality hearing aids. And

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and ninety seven dollars a pair for hearing aid,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just crazy. Mpty Hearing was founded by an anti

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<v Speaker 2>surgeon just like my dad, who saw how many of

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<v Speaker 2>his patients needed hearing aids but they couldn't afford them,

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<v Speaker 2>or like me vanity, He made it his mission to

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<v Speaker 2>develop a quality hearing aid that anyone could afford. Empty

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<v Speaker 2>Hearing has sold over one point nine million hearing aids

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<v Speaker 2>and they offer a forty five day risk free trial

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<v Speaker 2>with a one hundred percent money back guarantee, so you

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<v Speaker 2>fence about empty Hearing, they were just selected to be

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<v Speaker 2>the hearing aid supplier for top Medicare advantage plans, so

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<v Speaker 2>they are a brand that you can trust. Look here,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll prove it to you. There's my hearing aid. Do

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<v Speaker 2>right into So this holiday season, get the hearing aid

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred ninety seven dollars plus plus they're adding a

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<v Speaker 3>Now, welcome back to Political Beatdown CO. And I can't

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<v Speaker 3>tell you how many people, including you, telling me privately

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for recommending that. So that's a pretty cool way.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have it. I have it, of course I do.

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<v Speaker 3>So let me show we were having a debate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll show you. Love it, you and I.

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<v Speaker 3>You and I were having a debate before the ad break,

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<v Speaker 3>where you know, I was framing the issue more in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of this billionaire class and Trump as their vessel

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<v Speaker 3>doing this to us, and your response was more like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>we did this to ourselves. So I want to flesh

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<v Speaker 3>out that discussion. But let me just show you these

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<v Speaker 3>two things.

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<v Speaker 2>First.

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<v Speaker 3>First, I want to show you Jeff Bezos at the

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<v Speaker 3>recent New York Times summit. I'll just show you a

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<v Speaker 3>short clip of this. Let's play it.

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<v Speaker 5>We're talking about Trump. I think it's very interesting. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>I'm actually very optimistic this time around that we're going

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<v Speaker 5>to see. I'm very hopeful about this is he seems

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<v Speaker 5>to have a lot of energy around reducing regulation, and

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<v Speaker 5>my point of view, if I can help him that,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to help him.

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<v Speaker 3>What about the idea that he thinks that the press

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<v Speaker 3>is the enemy, Well.

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<v Speaker 5>I I think he I'm going to try to talk

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<v Speaker 5>him out of that idea. I don't think the press

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<v Speaker 5>is the enemy. And I don't think you know, he's

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<v Speaker 5>also you've probably grown in the last fight years he

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<v Speaker 5>has too, like it's you know, this is not the case.

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<v Speaker 5>The press is not the enemy.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you're right, he goes, I hope you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's not right because we've heard what Donald Trump said.

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<v Speaker 3>There's nothing to indicate that Donald Trump's changed at all.

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<v Speaker 3>And Bezos, right there is basically admitting, in my opinion

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<v Speaker 3>that look, we're okay with some fact. I'll try to

446
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<v Speaker 3>I'll try to talk Trump out of the fascism, okay,

447
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<v Speaker 3>but less regulation. And meanwhile, Bezos is worth, by my

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<v Speaker 3>last check, two hundred and twenty eight point four billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Two hundred and twenty eight point four billion dollars. Who

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<v Speaker 3>actually needs that amount of money? Let me show you

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<v Speaker 3>this with Bill Gates though as well, because here's a

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<v Speaker 3>short moment of it. I'll'll show you a very short clipment.

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<v Speaker 2>If you got ninety nine percent of your money, you'd

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<v Speaker 2>still be a multi billionaire.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, it's one hundred and thirty eight billion

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<v Speaker 3>dollars and I can do.

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<v Speaker 2>Math right, If you get rid of ninety nine percent,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd have one point three billion. I'm so sorry, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And you see the people laughing there, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, what's money? What's funny about that?

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<v Speaker 3>Actually exactly what's fun what is funny about that? And

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<v Speaker 3>you have going back to what Elon Musk said about unions, right,

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<v Speaker 3>this is why I say this is the billionaires who

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<v Speaker 3>are pushing this agenda with all of their money, saying,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, it's the unions that are causing to

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<v Speaker 3>lord peasant dynamic, you know when he says it, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the rocketman and so I'm supposed to be, you know,

468
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<v Speaker 3>and he's smart. I mean, he's still created these or

469
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<v Speaker 3>helped build these companies. But then people like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe unions are creating a lord peasant dynamic and that's

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<v Speaker 3>why I'm not getting a living wage while these billionaires

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<v Speaker 3>are out there like saying aha, and then they've amassed

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<v Speaker 3>like the most money ever. And this was in my

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<v Speaker 3>view though, Cohen, here's the thing, this was a concerted

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<v Speaker 3>agenda by billionaires who had lots of money in the

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<v Speaker 3>seventies and eighties, but they wanted it all and they

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<v Speaker 3>spent all this time crushing people. And people are pissed

478
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<v Speaker 3>now and so they're just blaming incumbents or whoever you

479
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<v Speaker 3>tell them to get angry at. But this was a plan, Cohen, don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't blame the people. The people were forced into this,

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<v Speaker 3>I think by billionaires.

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<v Speaker 2>But you disagree, Yeah, I don't think the billionaires forced anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>When you saw Elon Musk jumping up and down, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>acting like a four year old on the stage, or

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<v Speaker 2>you saw you know, I heard some of the comments

486
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<v Speaker 2>that were being made by people like Rfk. Stop we

487
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<v Speaker 2>all have a response. Twenty million Democrats didn't even vote

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<v Speaker 2>during this election cycle, possibly, as we have said a

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<v Speaker 2>million times on this show and others, the most consequential

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<v Speaker 2>election of our lifetimes, and it was too fucking hard

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<v Speaker 2>for them to get up and go to the voting

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<v Speaker 2>station and cast their vote. Really, how does something like

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<v Speaker 2>that happen. Twenty million Democrats didn't vote, and then all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden you had unions. It was Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 2>and Kamala Harris that walked the picket line. That's number one.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Kamala Harris and Joe Biden that are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to create some sort of a two state solution instead

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<v Speaker 2>of listening to now, what's going to be Mike Huckabee,

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<v Speaker 2>who doesn't even believe to use the term Palestine. He

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<v Speaker 2>goes back to the old biblical name. And they don't

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<v Speaker 2>even believe that a two state solution should even be

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<v Speaker 2>a thought. Right. I'm not saying that it should be.

503
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the situation well enough to apply, but

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<v Speaker 2>not to even have a thought that they want to

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<v Speaker 2>level the whole place, and that Trump's going to come

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<v Speaker 2>in on day number one and said, if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>return the hostages right now, right now, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>level the whole place. Stop. This isn't how things are

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to work.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let me push back a little bit on the

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<v Speaker 3>on some of the premise. So number one, we the

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<v Speaker 3>people elected representatives who passed on a bipartisan basis twenty

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<v Speaker 3>years ago or so campaign finance reform. Right, there was

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<v Speaker 3>campaign finance that was then challenged by Republicans, the precursors

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<v Speaker 3>to the kind of MAGA movement. It went before the

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<v Speaker 3>Supreme Court, a case called Citizens United was heard, and

517
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<v Speaker 3>then they ruled. The Supreme Court right wing Supreme Court

518
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<v Speaker 3>ruled that unlimited amounts of money by billionaires can be

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<v Speaker 3>spent through political action committees and unlimited monies can go

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<v Speaker 3>into the elections. The people voted for people who passed legislation,

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<v Speaker 3>and a right wing Supreme Court said that corporations are

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<v Speaker 3>people and have a First Amendment right to interfere in elections.

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<v Speaker 3>So to me to blame the people for what the

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<v Speaker 3>Supreme Court justices as part of a right wing agenda

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<v Speaker 3>did to kind of topple the American experiment. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think is I think, I think there's something there. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>sixty percent of Americans have below a sixth grade education,

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<v Speaker 3>so fifth grade or less. Because one of the things

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<v Speaker 3>that Republicans have done and will continue to do, and

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<v Speaker 3>we see this with the Doge Committee, what are they

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<v Speaker 3>going to attack the Department of Education? What do they

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<v Speaker 3>want to do? Replace history books with bibles in the classroom.

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<v Speaker 3>And while I believe people who have strong religious convictions

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<v Speaker 3>who want to read a Bible can do so in

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<v Speaker 3>their private time and their free time at their places

536
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<v Speaker 3>of worship, they want to replace history books with Bibles,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're doing that in places like Oklahoma right now.

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<v Speaker 3>No longer separation of church and state, which is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of the types of things that you and I learned

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00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:26.119
<v Speaker 3>in Cohen, even when I'm a little bit younger than you.

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<v Speaker 3>But even when I went and grew up and took

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<v Speaker 3>history courses, I learned about civics. I learned about how

543
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<v Speaker 3>a bill becomes a law. I still watched the Schoolhouse

544
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<v Speaker 3>Rocks type of stuff. I'm telling you this generation right

545
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<v Speaker 3>now and the younger crew that's that's always perpetually on

546
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<v Speaker 3>social media. This generation right now that voted for Donald Trump,

547
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:51.559
<v Speaker 3>they're on their tiktoks, that's what all they're looking at.

548
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:55.279
<v Speaker 3>They're not getting any type of civics education at all

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<v Speaker 3>about things that are happening, and so they're just going

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<v Speaker 3>by what their favorite podcaster is telling him, or what

551
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:04.759
<v Speaker 3>this person or that person is telling him. So I

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<v Speaker 3>hear you that. Obviously, in a democracy, it is we

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<v Speaker 3>the people who have the ultimate responsibility. But I do

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<v Speaker 3>want to be clear that just the same way that

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<v Speaker 3>nicotine and drugs can have a powerful influence over people,

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<v Speaker 3>billionaires using money to prop up this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that's my except, right, except here's here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me let me say this. Do you recall how

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<v Speaker 2>many times ben I said people don't listen to what

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<v Speaker 2>you're hearing. Trust your eyes and trust your ears. If

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<v Speaker 2>what you're hearing is that shit crazy, and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>need an education to know that something that shit crazy.

563
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<v Speaker 2>That people in Springfield, Ohio are eating cats and stop. Stop,

564
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<v Speaker 2>it's just stupid, all right. And you know you see

565
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<v Speaker 2>people on television turning around and saying, my pet's not gone.

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<v Speaker 2>My pet found its way to the basement. And then

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00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:17.920
<v Speaker 2>we ultimately found the cat a day later. Right, you

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<v Speaker 2>see it with your eyes, you hear it with your ears.

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<v Speaker 2>Trust your eyes, trust your ears, and don't let them

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that your eyes aligning, you that your ears aligning.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the whole problem here, all right. This isn't that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care how many times you tell a bullshit story.

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<v Speaker 2>A bullshit story should always be considered a bullshit story.

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<v Speaker 2>And thank god for groups like Midas, Touched Network, and

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<v Speaker 2>others like a Lincoln project. We are out there twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four to seven trying to yell. I try to yell

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<v Speaker 2>from the rooftops any place that I could do it,

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00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:58.079
<v Speaker 2>to turn around and to say stop stop. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying that all of Trump's policy sees a bed.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of them I actually agree with. But what I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like is the manner to which that they're being

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<v Speaker 2>rolled out or by the individuals that this transition team

584
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<v Speaker 2>that's working for Trump. By the way, I think they're

585
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:17.880
<v Speaker 2>screwing Trump up something royally. This transition team did no

586
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<v Speaker 2>research at all on any of these people, from the

587
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:24.519
<v Speaker 2>Pete hegsets to Matt Gates. They had to clearly know

588
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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't going to work for them. But it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter the people that are being asked for

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<v Speaker 2>us to trust to run these massive departments. Forget about

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that they have no experience in it, they

592
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:44.039
<v Speaker 2>have their own personal problems, and that they shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>been offered the nomination in the first place. It goes

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<v Speaker 2>back to what I was saying before. They're all scrambling

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00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:54.320
<v Speaker 2>right now to fill positions, and I know it because

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00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:56.559
<v Speaker 2>I saw it coin.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the word of the year from Oxford Dictionary,

598
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<v Speaker 3>it's brain rot. And you know, to your point in theory,

599
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<v Speaker 3>when people hear stupid things, they would react a certain way.

600
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:15.960
<v Speaker 3>But like we're living in these different kind of meme wars.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, what do you hear on TikTok

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<v Speaker 3>all this stupid stuff about like barn saying my suitcase,

603
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<v Speaker 3>my suitcase. You know, I was there for that videotape

604
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<v Speaker 3>and that would repeat over and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that was released to kind of normal

606
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:33.760
<v Speaker 3>try to normalize the facily. But all I heard of

607
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:36.199
<v Speaker 3>people going around me, you know, was like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>My suitcase, my suitcases.

609
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<v Speaker 3>And I'm just like, all right, stop with the suitcase thing.

610
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<v Speaker 3>But then he but then talking about brain rot. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>just think about over the past twenty four hours. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>there's like literally a person right now. I think her

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<v Speaker 3>name is like Halle Welch who's called like the Haktua

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<v Speaker 3>girl because she was asked when she was leaving a

615
00:37:56.400 --> 00:38:00.960
<v Speaker 3>club like what makes men happy? And she goes, I

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<v Speaker 3>haktua on them, which is a reference to a sexual

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<v Speaker 3>thing that went viral. People made all these songs about Haktua.

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<v Speaker 3>She got a podcast, she got all this money, and

619
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<v Speaker 3>she leveraged it to sell this meme coin, you know

620
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:18.519
<v Speaker 3>the way Trump sells like crypto. She sold this meme coin.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's the barstool right here.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was called the Tua coin.

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<v Speaker 3>It was called the Tactua coin, and it goes barstool rights.

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<v Speaker 3>The Haktua girl launched a meme coin. Everybody lost their money.

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<v Speaker 3>People want her throne in jail, and then this other

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<v Speaker 3>I think you have to channel people's anger though in

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<v Speaker 3>the right directions and say na, no, no, it's there.

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<v Speaker 3>This is who's doing it to you?

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<v Speaker 2>You have to Yeah, let me jump in for quick

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<v Speaker 2>second here. What made this young lady so virally famous

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<v Speaker 2>is because it was salacious. It was something that was

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<v Speaker 2>a literal ten second clip It was somebody asking her,

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<v Speaker 2>this thing. You got a hat and spin on that thing, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and that went fucking viral nuts. You know what didn't

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<v Speaker 2>go viral nuts? Bend me standing on top of the rooftops,

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<v Speaker 2>going on every station from ABC to NBC, to CBS

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<v Speaker 2>to CNN to MSNBC, going there and saying, we have

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<v Speaker 2>a real serious problem. I am me, Michael Cohen, am

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<v Speaker 2>the first political prisoner held by this country because I

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<v Speaker 2>refused to waive my First Amendment constitutional rights. And I've

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<v Speaker 2>been trying to explain that if they could do that

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<v Speaker 2>to me, they can and they will do that again.

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<v Speaker 2>Going forward, Lo and behold this morning. My buddy Jeffrey Levine,

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<v Speaker 2>friend of mine since high school. He's a lawyer. I

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<v Speaker 2>asked him if he would do me a favor. The

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<v Speaker 2>day I was required to go down to five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>Pearl Street to meet with Department of Probation, these two people,

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Pecoula and his superior Enid Phoebus. I was asked

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<v Speaker 2>to go there in order to sign the Federal Location

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<v Speaker 2>Monitoring Agreement. You probably all remember that when I was

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<v Speaker 2>unconstitutionally remanded. Well, we have been fighting now for four

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<v Speaker 2>years in order to get the documents under foyer. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>lo and behold. After the court required them to do it,

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<v Speaker 2>they start shitting it out in bits and pieces. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>last night we got a couple of hundred documents.

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<v Speaker 3>The Cohen before going before going into it, we have

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<v Speaker 3>to take I want you to tell people what's in

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<v Speaker 3>those documents is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay with us.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to take our last quick breakup of the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Make sure you all subscribe to at the Michael Cohen

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<v Speaker 3>To political Beatdown. Michael Cohen. During that break, right before

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<v Speaker 3>the break, you told us that you actually got these

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<v Speaker 3>Foyer documents. I want to hear what was in them,

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<v Speaker 3>and I do want to remind people though. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the frustrations that I had when I was

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<v Speaker 3>a civil rights lawyer, when I would be representing people

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<v Speaker 3>like you, is you would make Freedom of Information Act

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<v Speaker 3>request because in order for you as the lawyer to

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<v Speaker 3>file documents for your pleadings, guess what you need. You

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<v Speaker 3>kind of need the documents. You need the facts, you

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<v Speaker 3>need the evidence. And in business dispute cases sometimes you

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<v Speaker 3>have them right because the emails go back and forth.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe there's a contract and you may have the corpus.

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<v Speaker 3>Not all of them that you get during discovery, but

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<v Speaker 3>you get them during discovery. Also, in civil rights cases,

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<v Speaker 3>when you file the complaint, the other side brings a

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<v Speaker 3>motion to dismiss right and that stops discovery in most

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<v Speaker 3>so you don't get to get these documents. And then

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<v Speaker 3>when you file the complaint, usually before you file it,

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<v Speaker 3>the police department or in this case, the Department of

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<v Speaker 3>Justice and the FBI and the Bureau of prisons. They

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<v Speaker 3>don't turn over the records. So you go turn them over.

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<v Speaker 3>They go, no, turn them over. I really need them. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to get exemption. You can go to court. Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we're citing the ongoing investigation exemption.

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<v Speaker 2>You get it. So you want one that turns out

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<v Speaker 2>as methods and process could be harmed.

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<v Speaker 3>So you went all the way up to the Supreme

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<v Speaker 3>Court on the lawsuit that you filed. They rejected your petition,

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<v Speaker 3>but you didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Even have the documents. Now you got.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to give everybody the framework that now you

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<v Speaker 3>got the documents.

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<v Speaker 2>So why this is important is one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 2>that I've been yelling this across the world day in

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<v Speaker 2>and day out, whether it's here or my podcast or

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere that I could, is because what happened to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't ever want to see happen to you. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know we have a bunch of assholes you know

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<v Speaker 2>that watch us stay you know, each and every week,

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<v Speaker 2>and you make these nasty comments about well you work

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<v Speaker 2>for him and so on. Yeah I did when he

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<v Speaker 2>was the president and CEO of a family run real

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<v Speaker 2>estate branding development company. Yeah, and yes, yes, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>he was going to be a totally different type of president.

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<v Speaker 2>But my biggest concern after obviously everything went south, was

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<v Speaker 2>that it should not ever happen to you, and it

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<v Speaker 2>should never happen to anybody else. And when we start

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<v Speaker 2>to see people like Matt Gates being offered positions of

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<v Speaker 2>attorney general, I promise you this would be the norm. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know anything about Pambondi, you know, in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of what she would it would not do. I did

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<v Speaker 2>support her because Trump directed us all to years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know whether she would do it, whether

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<v Speaker 2>she's that much of an actolyte. But here's what happened

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<v Speaker 2>with one out of several hundred documents that I just saw,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was the second one. So that's why I

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<v Speaker 2>was able to put up because I've been doing other things,

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<v Speaker 2>like working on my third book. But this is from

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<v Speaker 2>Sonya Thompson, who is Assistant General Counsel to the Bureau

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<v Speaker 2>of Prisons, to Hugh Horowitz, who is the Eastern Division

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<v Speaker 2>representative for the Bureau of Prisons, to a guy named

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<v Speaker 2>Emery Nelson, who is a he's like the pr guy

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<v Speaker 2>for the Bureau of Prisons. And you know what they

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<v Speaker 2>have in their memo the subject, do you have concerns

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<v Speaker 2>and what did the concerns talk about? The concerns talked

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<v Speaker 2>about A Reuter's journalist asked them a series of questions.

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<v Speaker 2>You said earlier that Cohen didn't agree to electronic monitoring.

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<v Speaker 2>At what point did this occur? Our understanding is that

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<v Speaker 2>he was at the courthouse to review the terms of

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<v Speaker 2>the agreement and he never even got a chance to object. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>the BOP policy of pre approved for media interviews is

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<v Speaker 2>not what BOP was asking Cohen to sign. He was

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<v Speaker 2>asked to sign a document that says he would have

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<v Speaker 2>no engagement with the media, which is different from saying

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<v Speaker 2>he needs approval before engaging with the media. Finally, the

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<v Speaker 2>wording of the terms presented to Cohen explicitly says there

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<v Speaker 2>is to be in quotes no engagement of any kind

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<v Speaker 2>and quotes including through books. The plain reading of this

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<v Speaker 2>means he cannot release a book as a means of communicating.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no need to reach a legal conclusion here.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you suggesting that this requires him to get prior

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<v Speaker 2>approval from BOP before publishing, because that is clearly not

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<v Speaker 2>what the terms say. Then it's signed by the individual

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<v Speaker 2>from Reuter's PS. I have filed a FOYER And to

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<v Speaker 2>those that don't know what FOYA is, it's a Freedom

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<v Speaker 2>of Information Act as you suggested. But I would urge

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<v Speaker 2>the BOP to consider releasing the information outside of FOYA,

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<v Speaker 2>or at the very least provide us with a number

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<v Speaker 2>of inmates who as to sign similar to Cohen's terms,

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<v Speaker 2>which will go beyond the u usual BOP policies of

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<v Speaker 2>talking to the media. But then the kicker is the

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<v Speaker 2>very last part, the very last paragraph here. It's from

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<v Speaker 2>the GOP to this Reuter's reporter. Hello, so and so,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think I know who the person is. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>waiting to hear back from them. Your characterization of what

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<v Speaker 2>is occurring prior restraint is a legal conclusion. While the

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<v Speaker 2>applicable BOP Policy Program Statement five to three five zero

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<v Speaker 2>point two seven to which you are citing, authorizes inmates

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<v Speaker 2>to write and publish manuscripts, it does not speak to

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<v Speaker 2>the issue which you are raising, which is promotion of

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<v Speaker 2>said manuscript via the media. We decline to comment further

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<v Speaker 2>as to this aspect of your line of inquiry. They

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want any more of this, which is why they

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<v Speaker 2>asked at the very beginning. Should we be concerned. They lied.

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<v Speaker 2>They lied to the court. They lied during the habeas

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<v Speaker 2>petition by my lawyer Donia, when they were having me

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<v Speaker 2>returned from the unconstitutional reman They lied in my civil

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<v Speaker 2>action against the Bureau Prisons, Department of Justice, the United

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<v Speaker 2>States of America and Bill Barr Right. They lied on

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<v Speaker 2>the Second Circuit Appeal Appellate Court, and they lied on

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<v Speaker 2>the rid of Havia of the Writ of Cerciari to

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court. The government lied to the courts in

832
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:30.719
<v Speaker 2>order to protect their unconstitutional behavior. And again my big concern,

833
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:34.280
<v Speaker 2>it already happened to me. I did my fifty one

834
00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:38.000
<v Speaker 2>days of solitary, I did my entire six year term.

835
00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:41.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm done. I want to make sure that not this

836
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:47.159
<v Speaker 2>upcoming administration, but any upcoming administration never ever does it

837
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:52.760
<v Speaker 2>to anyone ever again. It is fucking wrong. It's unconstitutional,

838
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:56.360
<v Speaker 2>and it's Unamerican, and it should never ever ever have

839
00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:59.360
<v Speaker 2>happened to me. And I want to make sure, as

840
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:01.719
<v Speaker 2>long as I'm still breathing, I want to make sure

841
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:04.880
<v Speaker 2>this never happens to anyone ever again. And you know

842
00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:07.880
<v Speaker 2>the funny thing, I don't even blame Trump for this.

843
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:11.480
<v Speaker 2>I blame Bill Barr, because there's no way in the

844
00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:14.920
<v Speaker 2>world that people like you Horowitz or uh, what's the

845
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:18.800
<v Speaker 2>names here? You got? Uh? Who else is there? Sonya

846
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Thompson or Emery Nelson? They weren't speaking to Trump. But

847
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:27.199
<v Speaker 2>I guarantee you their people were speaking to Bill Barr.

848
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:30.280
<v Speaker 2>And as the attorney general, he should have known better,

849
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:32.960
<v Speaker 2>He should have done better, and he should have said

850
00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:37.199
<v Speaker 2>this is unconstitutional and we cannot and should not do it.

851
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:39.880
<v Speaker 2>And for that reason, Bill Barr, you get the two

852
00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:43.280
<v Speaker 2>fucking fingers salute, you bloviated piece of shit.

853
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:45.880
<v Speaker 3>Who do you think Bill Barr was talking to?

854
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:49.639
<v Speaker 2>Though, you know, it's a great question. I'm not one

855
00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:53.159
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent certain that he was actually speaking to Trump.

856
00:52:53.239 --> 00:52:55.559
<v Speaker 2>He could have been speaking to Kushner, He could have

857
00:52:55.599 --> 00:52:58.480
<v Speaker 2>been speaking to Ben I don't know. But what I

858
00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:02.519
<v Speaker 2>do know is Bill Barr, for certain, he I could

859
00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:06.880
<v Speaker 2>say one hundred percent for certain, was behind all of this.

860
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Who put it into his ear? I would like if

861
00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:14.000
<v Speaker 2>I had two questions that I would be permitted to

862
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:17.079
<v Speaker 2>ask Trump face to face. The first question I would

863
00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:21.119
<v Speaker 2>want to know is why, and second did you know

864
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:24.960
<v Speaker 2>about this? That's the two questions I would like to know.

865
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:31.840
<v Speaker 2>This is one hundred percent. It is unconstitutional, it's Unamerican.

866
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:34.960
<v Speaker 2>And my biggest fear is that what they did to me,

867
00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:39.079
<v Speaker 2>expect to start seeing more and more and more as

868
00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:43.719
<v Speaker 2>this new administration, depending upon who becomes Attorney General, depending

869
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:48.960
<v Speaker 2>upon who ends up in positions of power. That's my

870
00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:52.119
<v Speaker 2>biggest fear. Well, look, I think Trump knew. I think

871
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Trump my own opinion is my opinion. I think that

872
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:57.800
<v Speaker 2>he either that the people who you mentioned to Bannon

873
00:53:57.880 --> 00:54:00.719
<v Speaker 2>or Kushner, I mean they're talking to try so to me,

874
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:04.000
<v Speaker 2>it all ends with or goes up the ladder to Trump.

875
00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:07.800
<v Speaker 2>But I hear your perspective. But let me reflect on

876
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:08.599
<v Speaker 2>this as well. Though.

877
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:15.400
<v Speaker 3>The doctrine that basically gave the Bureau of Prisons and

878
00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:19.760
<v Speaker 3>the Department of Justice community that the Supreme Court held,

879
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:23.360
<v Speaker 3>or the Court of Appeals held, the Second Circuit Court

880
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:26.719
<v Speaker 3>of Appeals held, is a doctrine though that's very alarming,

881
00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:31.079
<v Speaker 3>especially when it comes to not just you, but mass deportations,

882
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:35.400
<v Speaker 3>because it's another form of immunity. And what the immunity

883
00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:40.559
<v Speaker 3>basically says is that if Congress doesn't pass a specific

884
00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:46.800
<v Speaker 3>law that permits you to file lawsuits against say the

885
00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:52.320
<v Speaker 3>FBI or Ice or whoever, and those don't exist. There's

886
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:55.920
<v Speaker 3>nothing on the books like a wrongful death action against Ice,

887
00:54:55.960 --> 00:55:01.599
<v Speaker 3>for example. Then unless Congress creates this doctor and there's nothing.

888
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:04.039
<v Speaker 3>This is how it's been interpreted now, which I think

889
00:55:04.119 --> 00:55:06.639
<v Speaker 3>is incorrect. But this is how the right wing Supreme

890
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:11.079
<v Speaker 3>Court says it. There's nothing in the Constitution that creates

891
00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:15.639
<v Speaker 3>an inferred or implied cause of action to give you

892
00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:20.079
<v Speaker 3>the right to sue or to vindicate your rights. No

893
00:55:20.119 --> 00:55:23.880
<v Speaker 3>one said that Cohen lost on the merits. Quite the contrary.

894
00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:27.719
<v Speaker 3>The federal judge said, on the merits, Cohen is right.

895
00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:33.280
<v Speaker 3>He was targeted as a political prisoner. However, Congress didn't

896
00:55:33.320 --> 00:55:37.639
<v Speaker 3>pass the law that in this specific situation allowed. This

897
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:42.039
<v Speaker 3>is what they argued, allowed Cohen to invoke his constitutional

898
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:44.719
<v Speaker 3>rights to bring a simple case. And Cohen said, what

899
00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:47.599
<v Speaker 3>are you talking about. Here are all of the amendments

900
00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:51.559
<v Speaker 3>that give me that right. It says it, And they said, sorry,

901
00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:54.760
<v Speaker 3>Congress needs to pass the law. So if you think

902
00:55:54.800 --> 00:55:58.880
<v Speaker 3>about mass deportations, what happens if Ice breaks it to

903
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:02.480
<v Speaker 3>kill somebody and then that family files a lawsuit. Ice

904
00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:06.079
<v Speaker 3>is going to be citing the same doctrine that got

905
00:56:06.079 --> 00:56:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Cohen's case dismissed, and I think it's important that we

906
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:10.880
<v Speaker 3>analyze and in that context.

907
00:56:11.000 --> 00:56:16.000
<v Speaker 2>As you know, then some of those that follow us,

908
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:21.000
<v Speaker 2>like I hate that Cohen is constantly ranting about what

909
00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Trump and you know the Republicans did to him. I

910
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:27.559
<v Speaker 2>don't give a shit and so on. Let me say

911
00:56:27.599 --> 00:56:31.599
<v Speaker 2>this why it's an ignorant statement to make why you

912
00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:35.079
<v Speaker 2>should care, And I constantly say it one because it

913
00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:39.440
<v Speaker 2>happened to me, So I have personal knowledge that you don't.

914
00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:43.800
<v Speaker 2>But my sole purpose I could sit back and say nothing.

915
00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:48.360
<v Speaker 2>What happens when it happens to you or someone who

916
00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:52.239
<v Speaker 2>you care about or somebody else. And what happens if

917
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:57.000
<v Speaker 2>that gets repeated again and again and again, like what

918
00:56:57.239 --> 00:57:00.639
<v Speaker 2>happened during the times of Stalin. All I have to

919
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:03.760
<v Speaker 2>do is turn around and say, John Doe said this

920
00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:07.000
<v Speaker 2>next thing, you know, you have people showing up to

921
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:11.280
<v Speaker 2>your house taking you away and violating your First Amendment

922
00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:15.639
<v Speaker 2>constitutional rights. I went through hell. I can tell you

923
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:18.079
<v Speaker 2>I know what hell looks like. I didn't go through

924
00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:21.039
<v Speaker 2>it once, I went through it twice. And what I'm

925
00:57:21.079 --> 00:57:24.960
<v Speaker 2>trying to do is ensure that nobody else ever has

926
00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:29.239
<v Speaker 2>to experience what I did, and if that doesn't make

927
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:33.679
<v Speaker 2>sense to you, then you may be actually so misguided.

928
00:57:33.760 --> 00:57:37.360
<v Speaker 2>You shouldn't be a part of this brigade of community.

929
00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:40.920
<v Speaker 2>And I hate asking somebody to sort of stay away,

930
00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:45.519
<v Speaker 2>because our goal is to create millions so that if

931
00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:49.480
<v Speaker 2>and when shit goes bad, that we have a community

932
00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:53.119
<v Speaker 2>so big that we cannot be ignored. It's why I

933
00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:56.519
<v Speaker 2>take pride when I tell people that the Midas Network

934
00:57:57.119 --> 00:58:01.800
<v Speaker 2>has more than three point three million subscribes, more than

935
00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:08.159
<v Speaker 2>CNN and MSNBC more and that's why I'm so proud

936
00:58:08.199 --> 00:58:12.519
<v Speaker 2>to be associated with this network. I want to make

937
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:15.320
<v Speaker 2>sure that the damage that they did to me and

938
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:19.440
<v Speaker 2>my family that they never do it again to anybody.

939
00:58:19.559 --> 00:58:23.159
<v Speaker 2>And I hope that explains to you the reason why

940
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:27.320
<v Speaker 2>I repeat it over and over and over, because sometimes

941
00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:30.719
<v Speaker 2>you have to yell from the mountaintop again and again

942
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:34.039
<v Speaker 2>and again in order for everybody to hear it.

943
00:58:34.760 --> 00:58:37.239
<v Speaker 3>Let me close with this, For people who are critical

944
00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:42.119
<v Speaker 3>of you or your positions, or people who it may

945
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:47.239
<v Speaker 3>be sympathetic with Midas Touched, but they are critical of you,

946
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:51.079
<v Speaker 3>it would have been very easy for you in that

947
00:58:51.159 --> 00:58:55.360
<v Speaker 3>twenty seventeen period to continue to cover up the wrongdoing

948
00:58:55.880 --> 00:58:58.440
<v Speaker 3>by them. You could have done nothing. You could have

949
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:01.760
<v Speaker 3>kind of deal with him to get pardoned. By him.

950
00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:05.119
<v Speaker 3>You likely would have been pardoned your You probably would

951
00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:08.320
<v Speaker 3>have kept your law license and kept everything you could

952
00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:11.840
<v Speaker 3>have grifted and made tens of millions of dollars off

953
00:59:11.880 --> 00:59:15.360
<v Speaker 3>of RNC donors and Trump donors and all the people

954
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:18.440
<v Speaker 3>who get the email, created your kind of Cohen law firm.

955
00:59:18.920 --> 00:59:21.079
<v Speaker 3>You know, maybe you would have been prosecuted, but once

956
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<v Speaker 3>you were pardoned, if you if you know, when he

957
00:59:23.480 --> 00:59:26.559
<v Speaker 3>pardoned you, you could have made millions of dollars. You

958
00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:28.199
<v Speaker 3>would not have development.

959
00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I'd probably be a nominee for a position right now.

960
00:59:31.760 --> 00:59:34.679
<v Speaker 3>You may be a Supreme Court I mean you may

961
00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:38.960
<v Speaker 3>be a Supreme Court justice attorney general. You know that

962
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:42.320
<v Speaker 3>that was a path, honestly, that that that you could

963
00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:46.360
<v Speaker 3>have took. You're at a time when it was most

964
00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:50.440
<v Speaker 3>difficult to stand up against him. Right in that time period,

965
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:56.320
<v Speaker 3>your moral compass, the values that you were born with,

966
00:59:56.360 --> 00:59:58.960
<v Speaker 3>the fact that you're a descendant of people who were

967
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:04.000
<v Speaker 3>Holocaust survivor, everything that led you to that moment told

968
01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:07.360
<v Speaker 3>you in your core, I can't go along with with

969
01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:10.119
<v Speaker 3>Trump's I can't do it, and I know that that's

970
01:00:10.159 --> 01:00:13.440
<v Speaker 3>going to have massive ramifications for me, But I can't

971
01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:16.000
<v Speaker 3>go on and just say and do nothing. And so

972
01:00:16.079 --> 01:00:21.320
<v Speaker 3>you spoke out, and you face solitary confinement, imprisonment, no pardon,

973
01:00:21.800 --> 01:00:25.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, and you've testified over and over. You get

974
01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:28.440
<v Speaker 3>attacked in the media from Fox, you get attacked in

975
01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:31.440
<v Speaker 3>the media from MSNBC, you get attacked in the media

976
01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:32.280
<v Speaker 3>from CNN.

977
01:00:32.679 --> 01:00:33.960
<v Speaker 2>You know you you know.

978
01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:38.360
<v Speaker 3>So I just one of the things with my representation,

979
01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:42.599
<v Speaker 3>for example, of Colin Kaepernick, I'm always been attracted to

980
01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:48.159
<v Speaker 3>or fascinated with and wanted to help people who, during

981
01:00:48.360 --> 01:00:53.679
<v Speaker 3>the most difficult moments, stood up and resisted and told

982
01:00:53.719 --> 01:00:58.159
<v Speaker 3>the truth and did the really hard thing. That aspect

983
01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:01.519
<v Speaker 3>of it is is what drew me to you back then,

984
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:03.480
<v Speaker 3>and I just always want to remind people of that

985
01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:06.760
<v Speaker 3>because I think with the passing of time maybe sometimes

986
01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:10.280
<v Speaker 3>people forget all all of that. So I'll leave people

987
01:01:10.280 --> 01:01:12.400
<v Speaker 3>with that. I believe it's an honor to host this

988
01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:16.119
<v Speaker 3>show with you, Michael Cohen, and you know, and I

989
01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:19.480
<v Speaker 3>think that there's you know, these are not easy times,

990
01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:23.320
<v Speaker 3>but I am very confident, I'm very hopeful actually that

991
01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:26.960
<v Speaker 3>in these uneasy times that we're going to come out stronger.

992
01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:29.119
<v Speaker 3>But we got to be united. We got to work together.

993
01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:32.320
<v Speaker 3>We can't cannibalize each other, you know, and we got

994
01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:34.960
<v Speaker 3>to focus on building. And we've always tried to be

995
01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:38.719
<v Speaker 3>a voice of positivity and community building. Uh here and

996
01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:42.800
<v Speaker 3>not bringing people down. So hit subscribe here. I'm joining us.

997
01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:46.000
<v Speaker 2>But I see a lot of people like, you know,

998
01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:47.639
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people are saying, oh, pardon, you know,

999
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:50.679
<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden should pardon Michael Cohen. You know, if you

1000
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:55.639
<v Speaker 2>go to my Twitter x account at Michael Cohen two

1001
01:01:55.760 --> 01:01:58.639
<v Speaker 2>one two pinned right to the top is a way

1002
01:01:58.679 --> 01:02:01.159
<v Speaker 2>you can actually send a letter to the White House

1003
01:02:01.159 --> 01:02:03.639
<v Speaker 2>to Joe Biden regarding that. So if you want to,

1004
01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:06.840
<v Speaker 2>about twenty thousand people have done it so far. The

1005
01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:10.320
<v Speaker 2>more the Merria. It takes a couple of minutes at most,

1006
01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:14.840
<v Speaker 2>but certainly it would be very much appreciated, because yeah,

1007
01:02:14.840 --> 01:02:17.519
<v Speaker 2>we have on six days left.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody, Thank you so much. That brother coming to one too.

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<v Speaker 3>The show I do with my brothers will be on

1010
01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:30.000
<v Speaker 3>this evening at eight eastern five Pacific. Join us then. Also,

1011
01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:32.719
<v Speaker 3>I think we still have the poll up right now.

1012
01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:36.519
<v Speaker 3>Maybe we'll run a poll for you Cohen about pardoning you.

1013
01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:39.239
<v Speaker 3>The poll we had was for Hunter Biden. Do we

1014
01:02:39.280 --> 01:02:43.880
<v Speaker 3>think that Hunter Biden should be pardoned. It's on the

1015
01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:46.679
<v Speaker 3>community page, so you can check that out. Maybe we'll

1016
01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:49.599
<v Speaker 3>drop it in the chat as well, but you go

1017
01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:52.320
<v Speaker 3>to our community page and just fill out that poll,

1018
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:54.079
<v Speaker 3>because we really want to get a.

1019
01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Sense of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think right now, on the back end, it shows

1021
01:02:56.599 --> 01:02:59.840
<v Speaker 3>that like ninety six percent of Might's touched net viewers

1022
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:03.079
<v Speaker 3>agree with the pardon, which is so interesting when you

1023
01:03:03.159 --> 01:03:06.320
<v Speaker 3>compare it to the way corporate media has been portraying

1024
01:03:06.360 --> 01:03:08.880
<v Speaker 3>it versus I think what kind of rank and file,

1025
01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:13.000
<v Speaker 3>core base voters actually feel about it. Everybody, we love you,

1026
01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:16.760
<v Speaker 3>We're grateful for you. Subscribe to the mea Culpa Blue podcast,

1027
01:03:17.159 --> 01:03:20.920
<v Speaker 3>subscribe to at the Michael Coach YouTube channel. Do all

1028
01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:23.079
<v Speaker 3>of that now. Thank you so much. We'll see you

1029
01:03:23.119 --> 01:03:26.000
<v Speaker 3>next week. Hang in there, We'll be there by your

1030
01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:28.199
<v Speaker 3>side every step of the way. We love you, we're

1031
01:03:28.199 --> 01:03:39.719
<v Speaker 3>grateful for you, and have a wonderful rest of your day.