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Speaker 5: And one one to you reporting. I got a screen
Speaker 5: going on here something just kid with my dog something
Speaker 5: killed your dog, my dog. We're flying through the or
Speaker 5: over the tree. I don't know how it did it. Okay, damn,
Speaker 5: I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming
Speaker 5: over the fence. The name of it dead when you
Speaker 5: hit the ground. That didn't a geny cars. All I
Speaker 5: saw was my dog coming over a fence. That what
Speaker 5: are you reporting?
Speaker 1: We got some wonder or something froll around out here?
Speaker 6: You see.
Speaker 5: Here? Look, I'm near the one now now and I
Speaker 5: don't need anything. I don't want to go outside. Just fright, Hello,
Speaker 5: get the boddy out here?
Speaker 3: What went on out there?
Speaker 5: Let's got up a bit of about second forty nine?
Speaker 5: I don't know. Easy announce there, yeah from walking right head?
Speaker 4: Oh I folks, wa welcome my guest to the show.
Speaker 4: It is Greg from Washington. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Hey, how you doing? I am good and I appreciate
Speaker 3: you being here. Let's get right into it.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about this bigfoot thing?
Speaker 3: What guy you interested in the subject? To begin with,
Speaker 3: I'll tell you the truth. Back when I was a
Speaker 3: young boy, my dad took me to see Legend of
Speaker 3: Boggy Creek. Mostly you guys probably heard this movie or
Speaker 3: I've seen it if you've seen the second one where
Speaker 3: it was more of the thriller movie. But what really
Speaker 3: got me into saucequatch was my first sight that basically
Speaker 3: blew my mind. As I've stayed many times too many people.
Speaker 3: There's only a few ways you're going to deal with
Speaker 3: seeing a saucequatcher the first time one. You're going to
Speaker 3: basically deny you have ever seen one. A friend of
Speaker 3: mine did. You're going to just say I'm never going
Speaker 3: back into the woods ever again another friend of mine did.
Speaker 3: Or you're gonna want to see them again and again.
Speaker 3: Each time I've seen them. Each time still blows my mind,
Speaker 3: still takes my breath away. The first one that was
Speaker 3: like ten back in Colorado. All the sightings I've had,
Speaker 3: I did put on the Bigfoot Mapping project so people
Speaker 3: can actually go and look at them and see where
Speaker 3: exactly they are. Magnitud Springs is a great hub for
Speaker 3: saucequatching if you guys are heading to Colorado anytime soon.
Speaker 3: So I was ten years old in nineteen eighty. I'm
Speaker 3: living in Manitou Springs, Colorado, in the shadow of Pike's Peak.
Speaker 3: I am left to my whim because my mom was
Speaker 3: working and single mom. I'm on in Williams Canyon, big
Speaker 3: canyon north of Manitou Springs, home of the cliff dwellings
Speaker 3: and the Cave of the Winds. A lot of the
Speaker 3: people probably seeing the terrordactyl swing rides. So when you
Speaker 3: see those people swinging across the way, that's the area
Speaker 3: I was at. I'm chucking big chunks of slate rock
Speaker 3: down onto the ground below me, just walking all over
Speaker 3: the place, right, So I decided to walk to one
Speaker 3: of the cliff areas and chuck some slate down onto
Speaker 3: the trail below. As soon as the rock hit the ground,
Speaker 3: I wasn't really paying attention to anything, and tell that
Speaker 3: rock hit and then I seen something large and black
Speaker 3: move fast. I noticed it was slim. It literally looked
Speaker 3: like a thin gorilla, except with longer legs and not
Speaker 3: such a robust shoulder with And then I realized as
Speaker 3: I started looking at it that it was like a
Speaker 3: slender female and it had a small infant child toddler
Speaker 3: sasquatch with it. It's looking up at me on the
Speaker 3: cliff and I'm only about one hundred feet away from it,
Speaker 3: and it's trying to push the toddler up into a
Speaker 3: cave to shield it from sight because the Williams King
Speaker 3: that's just filled with caves everywhere. I'm like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: what the heck is that? Then my brain realized what
Speaker 3: I'm actually seeing is a sasquatch. It would freaking me
Speaker 3: out a little bit. Then off to my right, the
Speaker 3: bushes were up to my waist slash chest, most of
Speaker 3: its sage brush. All of a sudden, one about I
Speaker 3: guess twenty five feet from my right just start shaking violently,
Speaker 3: start like something is hiding behind or shaking it to
Speaker 3: scare the heck out of it or whoever is in
Speaker 3: front of you. Because I'm used to the wild animals
Speaker 3: of Colorado watched so many documentaries by this time that
Speaker 3: I knew that it wasn't lizards, coyotes, definitely not a
Speaker 3: puma or bear. So the only thing I could think of,
Speaker 3: which was get out of there, because I got scared, startled.
Speaker 3: My brain was already a little frazzled from what I
Speaker 3: just saw, and ran off. But as time went by,
Speaker 3: I realized that it was probably another sasquatch that saw
Speaker 3: me come in and then dropped down on the ground.
Speaker 3: It turnd the rocks, smashing down on the trail below.
Speaker 3: Realizing it had family down there or something, shook the
Speaker 3: weeds really violently to try to scar me off, which
Speaker 3: it did. Then I guess it got up and left,
Speaker 3: because that was one of the last times I ever
Speaker 3: went into that canyon. The second one was about three
Speaker 3: years later. Those two friends were actually with me. We
Speaker 3: had a multiple sighting. We decided to go camping. We
Speaker 3: are right at the base of Mount Manitud, south side
Speaker 3: of Mount Manitud, just off of Bar Trail or between
Speaker 3: the cog railway. That's a train that goes up to
Speaker 3: the top of Pike's Peak. And we found this stream
Speaker 3: that goes down a little crick but there was a
Speaker 3: little waterfall and then a little pond that you can
Speaker 3: get in and soak in and cool yourself off. In
Speaker 3: the summer. It was a little level plane, so we
Speaker 3: decided to pitch our tent there. We were sitting there
Speaker 3: as teenage kids, joking around, having a good time. We
Speaker 3: decided it's probably about midnight, let's go to sleep, wake
Speaker 3: up in the morning, gets some breakfast, all that sort of.
Speaker 3: We had a fire pit that we made with a
Speaker 3: bunch of rocks. It was Pike's Peak granite. We were
Speaker 3: laying on middle of the night. I woke up. Something
Speaker 3: had rekindled our fire and started up the fire again.
Speaker 3: The three of us aren't a pup tent. I'm in
Speaker 3: the middle. My friend Sean is on my left side.
Speaker 3: My friend Greg is on the other. Now, Sean and
Speaker 3: Greg are both from East Coast. I'm the only true
Speaker 3: born Colorado in this group of people, and our feet
Speaker 3: are at the entrance of the tent. Something had unzipped
Speaker 3: the tent because the tent was open, but it wasn't
Speaker 3: splayed open. I noticed that the lights started getting into
Speaker 3: my eyes. I look up and I could see like
Speaker 3: when you're in a tent and the fire is going,
Speaker 3: you can see it lighting up your tent. But there
Speaker 3: was a shadow on the main central form of the tent,
Speaker 3: and I'm looking at directly up in the shadows above me.
Speaker 3: And as I panned down to where my feet are,
Speaker 3: I can see a shadow of legs, and then where
Speaker 3: the tent was opened, it was hair, thick furry sasquatch hair.
Speaker 3: I'm just stunned that this thing is looking at our fire,
Speaker 3: and I think it was playing within stirring up the
Speaker 3: actual fire. I shook my friends awake and then put
Speaker 3: my hands over their mouths. When they said something, I
Speaker 3: pointed like this and right there, and then the sasquatch
Speaker 3: turned to face our tent. Now we were all laying down.
Speaker 3: The next thing I know is all three of us
Speaker 3: are sitting up with our backs on the back of
Speaker 3: the tent, and it is now morning, so there has
Speaker 3: been several hours gone in our psyche. The only thing
Speaker 3: I could think of was sasquatch hook to tenth to
Speaker 3: take a look to see what's inside. We freaked out,
Speaker 3: and we all passed out. My friend Sean, he refused
Speaker 3: to get out of the tent. Literally, he was that terrified.
Speaker 3: He didn't want to get out of the tent. My
Speaker 3: friend Greg, he wanted us to just grab the tent
Speaker 3: and haul but Sean wouldn't get out. So they got
Speaker 3: in an argument and Greg dregged Sean out and we left.
Speaker 3: The very next day, I go to see Sean to
Speaker 3: discuss what had happened, because Greg literally was refusing that
Speaker 3: anything happened. The day later when I try to talk
Speaker 3: to him, Sean moved back to Harlem, New York City,
Speaker 3: and his mom had moved him to Colorado to get
Speaker 3: him out of all the gang activity in Harlem in
Speaker 3: nineteen eighties, and he moved back there and telled his
Speaker 3: dad that it was safer in Harlem than in Colorado Mountains.
Speaker 3: So that was pretty crazy. He all mad at us,
Speaker 3: and I had told him exactly what had happened. He
Speaker 3: was dumbfounded. There's no other logical reason why would he
Speaker 3: demand to move back to his mom's. After that, I
Speaker 3: stopped going into the mountains a lot. I moved down Arizona,
Speaker 3: then moved into the military, got deployed, then came back
Speaker 3: to Oregon. I moved into Lane County, which is the
Speaker 3: area of Eugene, Oregon Springfield, Oregon. I did not realize
Speaker 3: this was a treasure trove for sasquatch because the eastern
Speaker 3: side of Oregon is basically desert until you get to Bend,
Speaker 3: and then you got all these pine trees and stuff,
Speaker 3: which I'm thinking there's probably a lot of sasquatches that
Speaker 3: live over in that area. But on the west side
Speaker 3: of the Cascades is nothing but a temperate rainforest. That's
Speaker 3: when I started going out doing a lot of research,
Speaker 3: taking steps on out to go camping that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: I remember him looking around. I was like, what's the matter.
Speaker 3: I'm afraid this bears are something out here that are
Speaker 3: going to eat us. It's like, trust me, what you're
Speaker 3: hearing is not a bear. Just feel safe because I
Speaker 3: was like, if there's a sauce squatch in the area,
Speaker 3: feel safe because most likely no other predator is going
Speaker 3: to be around. Because this thing is an apex creature.
Speaker 3: Bears aren't going to want to be around it. Wolves
Speaker 3: won't go around it. Kuma's definitely don't want to be around.
Speaker 3: I started doing a lot more research, start compiling a
Speaker 3: map of sightings where I wanted to go. I took
Speaker 3: my son up to was at Dweierhouer tree farm growing
Speaker 3: up in Colorado. Who used to get close as I
Speaker 3: could to animals track them. I always felt this like
Speaker 3: weird sixth sense when animals were near me. I'm talking
Speaker 3: to identifying plants and stuff. For him, I felt something around.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, I hear a gun shot off
Speaker 3: to our left. I looked down to THEO and we
Speaker 3: started hearing it immediately. As soon as a gun shot,
Speaker 3: we have something's running away from us, and it was
Speaker 3: literally behind the tree we were standing in front. I
Speaker 3: looked at him for a split second. I did not
Speaker 3: know if I wanted to run after it, because I
Speaker 3: got my seven year old son with me and he's like,
Speaker 3: now excited, Oh my god, what do we do? Shortly
Speaker 3: after that, I took him and his friend Russell up
Speaker 3: to Blue School Mountain area of Cottage Grove, teaching him
Speaker 3: about tracking all that sort of stuff. By this time,
Speaker 3: my son is a little older. I'd given him a
Speaker 3: super neat dagger, so he's like a sword. So I'm
Speaker 3: teaching them about tracking and stuff, and on our way
Speaker 3: back to the van, I felt there was something out here.
Speaker 3: Instead of carrying guns ninety five some time, I carry
Speaker 3: a sword with me in a stun gun.
Speaker 4: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to sea. We'll
Speaker 4: be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: Because I found that you just take a stun gun
Speaker 3: clack it into the air. Most of the predators I've
Speaker 3: had to deal with just kind of oh my god,
Speaker 3: what the heck was that? And they're all completely defensive
Speaker 3: and they run off, or if that doesn't work, I
Speaker 3: pull out this sword whack off a limb. Really fascillate
Speaker 3: and they're like, other thing's got a big ass claw. Generally,
Speaker 3: I don't have to worry about predators that much, but
Speaker 3: this time I have two kids with me, so I
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, you guys, stay behind me about twenty
Speaker 3: yards so I can scout ahead. One of the things
Speaker 3: I tell everybody if you want to have a good
Speaker 3: sasquatch side is don't scream and point. Because sasquatches are
Speaker 3: loose of their shy creatures. They want to observe you
Speaker 3: to see if you're a danger to them and their families.
Speaker 3: They're not going to immediately be hyper aggressive towards you
Speaker 3: unless they've had a lot of bad encounters with human beings.
Speaker 3: So that's what I told these kids. Don't scream in point.
Speaker 3: Russell forgot that one major fact. Apparently he was looking
Speaker 3: over his shoulder and he sees one peering out behind
Speaker 3: a tree at him. He screams my name right there,
Speaker 3: and then my brain thought black bear. I just pulled
Speaker 3: out my sword instantly and started going right where he pointed,
Speaker 3: because nothing was going to get near my son or
Speaker 3: this other kid didn't realize it was a sasquatch. I'm
Speaker 3: just barreling through the woods because I saw something. As
Speaker 3: soon as I turned, I could see this big black
Speaker 3: mass going right through all the sapling trees. We're in
Speaker 3: pine trees, so it's just a curtain of little trees.
Speaker 3: I'm just I am through these things. Then I realized
Speaker 3: that my son and his friend are behind me somewhere
Speaker 3: on the trail, and I look behind me, here's my
Speaker 3: little son. I had to stop because there was a
Speaker 3: big rain draw. It's like you got the road and
Speaker 3: where all the rain goes down. It's just basically like this,
Speaker 3: and it's a twenty foot span from where I was
Speaker 3: to the other area. I see what looked like something
Speaker 3: like if someone was doing a running long jump, and
Speaker 3: then you can see the footprints land. It was so
Speaker 3: fresh that the rocks and stuff were still falling. This
Speaker 3: thing was gone. Prior to this, I was going up
Speaker 3: to the wirehouse tree farm constantly. This was one of
Speaker 3: the other most weirdest sightings.
Speaker 5: I had.
Speaker 3: I go up and now I have a Bronco two.
Speaker 3: I had it army camouflaged. I pulled over into this
Speaker 3: one area so I can actually check out the area.
Speaker 3: For some reason, I felt like I needed to be
Speaker 3: here also that I noticed that there was this big
Speaker 3: old pine tree that looked like it had just been felled,
Speaker 3: not lumberjack falling it, like something actually pushed it over.
Speaker 3: I pulled into the area, and I noticed that it
Speaker 3: had really tall grass, about three feet tall. If that
Speaker 3: I see that, it looked like there was footsteps going
Speaker 3: to the tree that had been filled. It looked like
Speaker 3: something had broke out a lot of the branches underneath
Speaker 3: the bottom of the tree, almost so it could sleep
Speaker 3: or something and keep all the other branches to protect it.
Speaker 3: I'm six foot one and I'm having to jump from
Speaker 3: one step to the other step because I could not
Speaker 3: reach them even with extending my legs. So I get
Speaker 3: there and I'm looking at it, and sure enough, it
Speaker 3: literally looks like something stepped in there started breaking the
Speaker 3: branches off and tossing them out so it can sleep
Speaker 3: in there. And I think that's what a lot of
Speaker 3: them will do, is they find broken trees or something
Speaker 3: like that and just make little nests and stuff. This
Speaker 3: is when I made astounding discovery about these creatures and
Speaker 3: how much they are a lot like gorillas, not because
Speaker 3: of just the way they look. So I go back
Speaker 3: out of that area, and there's this two sets of cheese.
Speaker 3: I just forgot the name of the pine trees, but
Speaker 3: they're tall. They're like one hundred footers. There's a smaller
Speaker 3: pine tree that's just literally covered in moss, and there's
Speaker 3: a bunch of man's Anita bushes surrounding it like an
Speaker 3: arc almost. I'm seeing these two trees, and I'm thinking
Speaker 3: this will be a good place for an apple trap.
Speaker 3: I always bring some oranges with me to help bake
Speaker 3: the apple trap, because what I'll do is I'll rub
Speaker 3: the oranges on the area around the trees because the
Speaker 3: citric oils is a really pungent smell, throw out some
Speaker 3: cinnamon sticks, and then hang the apple trap. So I'm
Speaker 3: going to over the area grab my stuff. I noticed
Speaker 3: that underneath the tree there's a lot of fresh pine
Speaker 3: nettle branches. Now they aren't the pine nettles for this tree,
Speaker 3: because they're the wrong conifer. I'm looking at them, and
Speaker 3: these things are like bright green, very soft pine nettles.
Speaker 3: It literally looked like something had gathered them and laid
Speaker 3: a mattie of them underneath this tree, behind all the
Speaker 3: man's Anita bushes. Because the Man's inneda bushes if you
Speaker 3: don't know, are not really prickly, but you don't want
Speaker 3: to run through them. I don't know any animal that
Speaker 3: would want to eat them, tell you the truth. They
Speaker 3: were laying there, and I started looking at it. I
Speaker 3: put my back against the tree, and I'm noticing that
Speaker 3: there was one large humanoid figure that if they slept
Speaker 3: in the fetal position. Then there was another one kind
Speaker 3: of right next to it about two feet away, and
Speaker 3: then two small ones, but one was like nestled really
Speaker 3: close to the middle large one. I'm thinking, I have
Speaker 3: a family group area that I'm in. He you got
Speaker 3: an adult, you got a mom, you got the two kids,
Speaker 3: and then maybe the larger king is probably what made
Speaker 3: the tree little nap thing. I could be wrong. It
Speaker 3: could have been the dad just came back to that area.
Speaker 3: Because I do believe that they have patrol areas. They
Speaker 3: have their family zone, then they have their patrol zone
Speaker 3: where they're looking for food, making sure everything's safe. Now
Speaker 3: I know I have to put up an apple trap,
Speaker 3: so I go get my stuff. I'm starting to set
Speaker 3: up the apple trap, and I hear stifled breathing above me. Now,
Speaker 3: like I said, and I know a lot about animals, bears, pumas.
Speaker 3: This is sounding like when you're playing hide and seek
Speaker 3: when you're a kid and you had that one kid
Speaker 3: who is like right next to you and you're trying
Speaker 3: to breathe but not wanting to let them hear you breathe.
Speaker 3: That's literally what this was, but larger. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 3: this thing's right about me. If I look up and
Speaker 3: scream or anything like, this thing could literally jump on me,
Speaker 3: pummeled me to oblivion, whatever, Okay, Because I'm not delusional.
Speaker 3: They can be hostile, extremely hostile. Through my research, there
Speaker 3: has been many these creatures killing the humans. So I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know what, I got this disposable cameras because I
Speaker 3: had one camera prior to that was like a digital
Speaker 3: camera that you just point and shoot horrible, horrible resolution.
Speaker 3: And I'm looking at photos when I took these ones
Speaker 3: of a deer one time and I'm like, no, wonder,
Speaker 3: people see just nothing but blurry sasquatch. They're using this
Speaker 3: horror camera. So I decided to go with the disposable ones.
Speaker 3: Because I'm a young dad with the young wife and
Speaker 3: two kids. We didn't have a lot of money. To
Speaker 3: spend on sasquatch. So I went to go get my
Speaker 3: camera out of the bronco. Now when I'm also wearing
Speaker 3: is my cameo fatigues from when I was in the army.
Speaker 3: I get my camera out. I'm not looking up at
Speaker 3: it because I know that when you look at a sasquatch,
Speaker 3: it's going to trip out, so I'm trying to keep
Speaker 3: it peaceful. I see this dough coming from my right,
Speaker 3: and she stops and she looks right at me, that
Speaker 3: looks down at my hands, and she realizes that I'm
Speaker 3: not a hunter. Now, I think deer realized when they
Speaker 3: see humans in camouflage gear and they're carrying long things
Speaker 3: or a bo it's oh, I better run. And she
Speaker 3: just totally relaxed, and she starts prancing Peppi lepew from
Speaker 3: the cartoons. That's same going going. As she starts going
Speaker 3: around the trees, I just set my apple trap. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I got to get a picture so I can show
Speaker 3: my wife and my kids. Right when I'm about to
Speaker 3: take the picture, you got the two trees here, you
Speaker 3: got the one smaller conifer, you got the nest area.
Speaker 3: She's now passing this one tree. That the stifle breathings it.
Speaker 3: It's not panting like a puma or anything like that.
Speaker 3: Just as I'm about to take the picture, she just
Speaker 3: looks up. Her ears dropped down on her head. She
Speaker 3: drops on her butt. She's instantly turning. Those front legs
Speaker 3: are just with and dirt. She's just coming straight at me.
Speaker 3: It was like I'm about to be ran over by
Speaker 3: a deer because she's not looking at me at all.
Speaker 3: She's looking up at what's in that tree. She's barreling
Speaker 3: straight at me. So I jump out of the way.
Speaker 3: I let her run past me, and that that's right.
Speaker 3: When I hear it sounded like you dropped a seven
Speaker 3: hundred pounds log onto the ground. I turned, I can
Speaker 3: hear it running down the slope. That was only forty
Speaker 3: yards from where I was standing. So I barrel scrayed
Speaker 3: out that slow. Just as I was about to raise
Speaker 3: the camera up, there's the saplings. It's all clear until
Speaker 3: you hit the bottom of the slope. Because this is
Speaker 3: a tree farm, so they go and clear cut forests.
Speaker 3: There was a line massive trees, the majority of them
Speaker 3: are saplings, about twelve to fifteen feet high. There was
Speaker 3: this big black mass just blasting in tool and it
Speaker 3: was as tall as the saplings were. It freaked me
Speaker 3: out really bad. I knew I had to start coming
Speaker 3: back more and more. But I also had other people
Speaker 3: that were contacting me to go check out sightings for them.
Speaker 3: By this time, I had met a couple of young
Speaker 3: twenty somethings actually I think they're like eighteen. They were
Speaker 3: interested in sasquatch, so I decided to take them under
Speaker 3: my wing. Right before I started taking them out with me,
Speaker 3: this is where I had my most weirdest, strangest sighting
Speaker 3: of all. It was incredibly crazy. People when they hear
Speaker 3: me see it. Even a lot of the squatchers were
Speaker 3: just like, you have to be nuts. I think it
Speaker 3: was Autumn Williams from Oregon bifoot dot com. She contacted
Speaker 3: me to go investigate a sighting for from one of
Speaker 3: her friends. That was an interesting sighting. It was one
Speaker 3: black bear running across the road on hind legs, supposedly
Speaker 3: black bear, one black bear larger chasing that one on
Speaker 3: all fours, and then two larger black bears is what
Speaker 3: the lady said, on hind legs, chasing the one behind
Speaker 3: the little one automatically. Bears don't run that fest on
Speaker 3: hind legs, So it was baby bear being chased by
Speaker 3: a black bear being chased by the bear. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll go look at this because I've studied a lot
Speaker 3: of primatology, I've studied anthropology. I'm on my way down
Speaker 3: to the Myrtle Creek area where this was. I had
Speaker 3: to go pee. I'm on a mountain road, the trees
Speaker 3: on one side clear. There was this viewpoint that you
Speaker 3: could pull off, and it was a round cliff that
Speaker 3: was like thirty feet wide, but it was like an
Speaker 3: arcing horseshoe cliff. This is the perfect time for me
Speaker 3: to go, so I pull over. I walk over, start
Speaker 3: relieving myself and enjoying the view because of the area
Speaker 3: below me and all just been clearcutted like the year prior.
Speaker 3: Right you could see where the people had came in
Speaker 3: and planted the saplings because you can see the little
Speaker 3: one tubes everywhere. As soon as I started going, I
Speaker 3: looked down and there's this sasquatch who was apparently standing
Speaker 3: with his back against the cliff. I think because he
Speaker 3: heard my bronco driving up the road and decided to
Speaker 3: hide or something, or he was just sitting there and
Speaker 3: joining the view and doing what I was going to do,
Speaker 3: or I started doing. He's looking at me like you
Speaker 3: just peed on me. I'm looking at him like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, I just peed on him. Then I realized
Speaker 3: at the same time he realized what we each were.
Speaker 3: So he slaps against the cliff side as much as
Speaker 3: possible and shifts to his right a bit. So I
Speaker 3: shift over to see him, and he looks up against
Speaker 3: he's me looking at him, shifts over again to the
Speaker 3: other side. I gotta get my camera. Originally, when this
Speaker 3: incident happened, I thought there was just one sasquatch, But now,
Speaker 3: as the more I think about it, there was two sasquatches,
Speaker 3: because he starts doing the like that just a really loud,
Speaker 3: not like long drawn out ones, but this is short,
Speaker 3: high pitched. Hey, I'm in trouble. I need help. And
Speaker 3: by this I was already going to my bronco to
Speaker 3: get my camp order. I heard something off to my
Speaker 3: left about forty yards moving fast. I look over and
Speaker 3: there's this five foot tall young female sasquatch looking directly
Speaker 3: at me, and she's just hauling up that hillside about
Speaker 3: the third woud hoop from this sasquatch on the base
Speaker 3: of the cliff. That's when I heard. I didn't know
Speaker 3: how large it was, but it sounded like King Kong
Speaker 3: coming down that mountain side. I mean, the steps were
Speaker 3: so heavy. He watched the King Kong from the eighties,
Speaker 3: That's what it sounded like, but fast. It sounded like
Speaker 3: trees were just being crushed and smashed as it's coming along.
Speaker 3: Which studying primatology, that's one thing apes will do to
Speaker 3: make themselves a lot more imposing and threatening. I did
Speaker 3: even have time to zip up or anything. I just
Speaker 3: got in my bronco when I hauled.
Speaker 4: Ass and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see.
Speaker 4: We'll be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: Because the last thing I want to be is a
Speaker 3: smash pudd along the ground of the sausquatch. From there,
Speaker 3: I go and I meet these young twenties somethings. Will
Speaker 3: go out. We'll check out some sightings and stuff like this.
Speaker 3: I go to Myrtle Point with them. By this time
Speaker 3: I had already had people talk to me about where
Speaker 3: they had sightings. One guy had given me a great
Speaker 3: lead on an area in Myrtle Point area of Oregon
Speaker 3: because him and his friends would go hunting. They had
Speaker 3: four saucequatches converging onto their area, and apparently these guys
Speaker 3: and their family lines have been hunting black bear there
Speaker 3: for generations. Apparently these guys stopped their truck and these
Speaker 3: things started yowling and hooping, and they were closing in
Speaker 3: to the point where their windows were rattling, and they
Speaker 3: drove off, never to go back. So I was talking
Speaker 3: to the guy about it. Can you please point this
Speaker 3: area out? Come with me. You could take all your
Speaker 3: armaments you want. I'm usually armed myself. Please come with me.
Speaker 3: I'll pay for everything. Take me there. He says, I
Speaker 3: won't go there even with one hundred and first Damn airport.
Speaker 3: But he pointed out on a map that I had
Speaker 3: where it was. I'm like, thank you, sir. When someone
Speaker 3: states so they're not going there with the army, I
Speaker 3: was just like, I gotta go. I take my new
Speaker 3: friends down there. We get up to the area, and
Speaker 3: this one irritates me about some saft squatches, especially the
Speaker 3: new ones. Is I told them make sure you have provisions,
Speaker 3: you have water. I carry first DAID equipment with me,
Speaker 3: I said, make sure you have all these items with you.
Speaker 3: They showed up with two sandwiches between the three people
Speaker 3: and one small bottle of water. Like, what if I
Speaker 3: die and my keys are on the bottom of a
Speaker 3: cliff and you can't drive my vehicle home. You're now
Speaker 3: two days of walking through the woods. You know, what
Speaker 3: do you gonna do? After chastising up, we started walking
Speaker 3: around this area. This is a good area for us
Speaker 3: to just park the bronco. I looked at the land.
Speaker 3: I can get my bearings so we can do a
Speaker 3: nice circling. I'm looking around and they're all just saying
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah, just mindlessly talking. I looked down
Speaker 3: behind one of the stumps on a steep slope. Apparently
Speaker 3: there had been a sasquatch. His head was probably this wide.
Speaker 3: He had heard us chattering and chattering, was curious. Didn't
Speaker 3: think we see them. He popped up and peeked over
Speaker 3: the stump, and he sees us like forty five feet
Speaker 3: away from I didn't get to start filming the camera
Speaker 3: y because I was still messing with it when I
Speaker 3: saw them. Guys, don't look right now, but there's a
Speaker 3: sasquatch right in front of us. They all just turned
Speaker 3: and looked, and by this time he had already duck
Speaker 3: behind the stump. The weird thing was the batteries I
Speaker 3: had that were completely charged instantly are now dead, which
Speaker 3: was the weirdest thing that's happened to me twice before
Speaker 3: to where I put full charge batteries in there hit
Speaker 3: turn on the batteries of die on me. Weird. So
Speaker 3: we go walk into hiking along we see something where
Speaker 3: this tree had been. There was like a mass area
Speaker 3: of BlackBerry bushes, probably twenty feet high. The way they
Speaker 3: had been pushed off and all the roots broken off
Speaker 3: or made me think of the fortress almost. It was
Speaker 3: really strange. I've never seen it before in nature anywhere.
Speaker 3: There's this other tree that had been pushed over the
Speaker 3: BlackBerry bushes, almost like a bridge, and the BlackBerry bushes
Speaker 3: are moatd weirdest thing you could see where the moss
Speaker 3: had grown on the sides of that tree, but on
Speaker 3: the top where you'd be walking was completely bare and
Speaker 3: you could see a were trail. We get up on
Speaker 3: this tree, climb over there. First thing I noticed there's
Speaker 3: three trees that had been broken off and formed in
Speaker 3: almost like a fortress. And then there's two trees that
Speaker 3: were almost like the guardian posts. Right. Because it's the
Speaker 3: rest of it's surrounded by BlackBerry bushes. All the large
Speaker 3: trees trunks that have been around are covered in deer hair.
Speaker 3: I thought that was really strange, and then I made
Speaker 3: this discovery that there is four deer in different stage
Speaker 3: of the decomposition. You looked at the bones, they're like
Speaker 3: ripped cages, skulls, pelvis'es. They're not like arranged to where
Speaker 3: they're perfectly symmetrical. Is if something ripped something off, chewed
Speaker 3: on it, and they just threw it down onto the pile, right,
Speaker 3: And if you looked at the bones, you could see
Speaker 3: gouge marks on there, not like someone trying to skin
Speaker 3: the meat off of a bone, but like something sitting
Speaker 3: there biting into it. Really are The one thing that
Speaker 3: made me think it wasn't a hunter at the base
Speaker 3: of one of the trunks was the full rack of
Speaker 3: antlers that was I think it was eight points on
Speaker 3: each side, which was oppressive. No deer hunter is going
Speaker 3: to leave those, so that really freaked me out. I
Speaker 3: gathered like three bones of the different deers took them
Speaker 3: with me.
Speaker 6: I made a.
Speaker 3: Rough sketch of what I saw, and then we started
Speaker 3: walking off the guys. The two young men decided they
Speaker 3: wanted to test my knowledge or play prank on me.
Speaker 3: I'm off with the female Nicole, and I'm pointing out
Speaker 3: different types of bushes to her because she wanted to
Speaker 3: know about them. They're like, Greg, come on over here,
Speaker 3: So I go over this area. The idiots decided to
Speaker 3: make like a little You see those people that say
Speaker 3: this is a sasquatch home and there's just a huge
Speaker 3: lodgepole pines laying against each other. They try to do
Speaker 3: that with sticks about this high. The first thing I
Speaker 3: thought it was how when I was a kid and
Speaker 3: we'd set up teepees with my stepdad. It was a
Speaker 3: shy and rapa ho That's literally what it looked like,
Speaker 3: resting on a small branch. There was a handprint in
Speaker 3: there that obviously it was Noah's one of the guys
Speaker 3: doing this to make it look large? Is what could
Speaker 3: this be? First of all, don't test me on a
Speaker 3: sasquatch or by or primatology, because you're going to look stupid.
Speaker 3: Two that's your hand. Three, why the hell would a
Speaker 3: sasquatch do that. They're just like, oh, we were just
Speaker 3: screwing with you. Okay, let's start heading back to the
Speaker 3: car because I'm starting to get a little warm with
Speaker 3: thin of these guys. The sun started coming down, So
Speaker 3: we got did about a one mile circle, and we're
Speaker 3: now on the road that we had drove up on.
Speaker 3: On the right of us is about a twenty five
Speaker 3: foot high burn. We're walking along, I got a sky
Speaker 3: stop for a split second, we stop. The footsteps stop, Okay,
Speaker 3: go ahead, keep going the footsteps keep going, stop stop.
Speaker 3: We did that till we get to the car, but
Speaker 3: it never made its self known or seen. And I'm
Speaker 3: thinking that was probably the sasquatch we saw or that
Speaker 3: I saw on the stalk. It just followed us around,
Speaker 3: and I'm thinking that we had found a own area
Speaker 3: or like an ome nesting area, not necessarily where they
Speaker 3: would sleep at night, but something where they would bring
Speaker 3: their kills to the eating whatever and then just walk
Speaker 3: off and go forards for other stuff. So we get
Speaker 3: back in the car go back home a little while later,
Speaker 3: but I'm taking them up towards Odell Lake is where
Speaker 3: I wanted to go up towards the Cascade mountains of
Speaker 3: Mount Bachelor. I decided, hey, we going up there, and
Speaker 3: I see this one cool lake and I could see
Speaker 3: this road that goes up. I'm going to teach you
Speaker 3: guys a little bit about nature killing off a lot
Speaker 3: of the myths, like when people see horsetail moss that's
Speaker 3: turned black and they're like, look it's asquatch here. No,
Speaker 3: it's horsetow moss. We're up in an area, and it
Speaker 3: was perfect to talk to them about this stuff because
Speaker 3: one as when you see a tree has been snapped, right,
Speaker 3: you see them in a line or a group. A
Speaker 3: lot of the times that's just weathering, where a lot
Speaker 3: of snow piles on and they just all snap. The
Speaker 3: thing that I had pointed out to him was like,
Speaker 3: now you look at these line of trees. You could
Speaker 3: see where these branches have been snapped on one side
Speaker 3: and the other. But they're like at twelve to fifteen
Speaker 3: feet height. It's just like, now you could see that
Speaker 3: these weren't cut, these were snapped off. Something was running
Speaker 3: through this and making a whole lot of noise and
Speaker 3: smashing these limbs. Okay, most likely these are a sasquatch
Speaker 3: making an intimidation display. And then I pointed to the
Speaker 3: trees that are like fifty yards away where some of
Speaker 3: them had been snapped on the tops. You could tell
Speaker 3: this is where the snow had been doing. I'm showing
Speaker 3: on different types of rock. Now, see this big log
Speaker 3: is three four foot in diameter, about six feet long.
Speaker 3: It is termite ridden. I'm showing them how they could
Speaker 3: tell an ape clean towards termites if they're following the
Speaker 3: chimp way, which is using sticks. I showed them like
Speaker 3: how a human could just put your hand in that
Speaker 3: wouldn't just pull out a chunk and its turmites. Now,
Speaker 3: bear will just rake it and break it apart, start
Speaker 3: licking all the termites up. All three of them are
Speaker 3: like looking right at me. All of a sudden, I
Speaker 3: hear this, oh behind me. I don't think the creature
Speaker 3: actually meant to be heard. It was more like a
Speaker 3: sudden exclamation of what the hell. I look over my shoulder.
Speaker 3: There's this three foot tall young sasquatch. He standing behind
Speaker 3: these man's anita bushes. We're near the summit of this
Speaker 3: ridge line. Do you remember Land of the Loss from
Speaker 3: the nineteen seventies. Remember the Young Chaka That was pretty
Speaker 3: close to what this thing looked like, except make it
Speaker 3: dark ape skin, dark ape hair, more of a Muslim steve,
Speaker 3: and actual nose. He's got these wide eyes. It's like, guys,
Speaker 3: don't look now, but look casually. There's a young saucewatch
Speaker 3: behind us. All three of them looked at the same time. Now,
Speaker 3: being a young saucequatch or any young kid being spotted
Speaker 3: by a bunch of people, he's spying on. The first
Speaker 3: thing he does, he ducks under the man's anita bushes.
Speaker 3: But he's only hiding like this so he could still
Speaker 3: see what's going on because his curiosity is just killing him.
Speaker 3: The funny thing was and is The horrible thing was
Speaker 3: is Noah decides to show his stupidity and true colors
Speaker 3: at this time. Remember the original Ghostbusters, Remember the libraryan incident.
Speaker 3: Get her, that's literally what he said, get it. Soon
Speaker 3: as he did that, this little thing back pedaled about
Speaker 3: two feet and will start of letting out that same
Speaker 3: whoop that the one on the cliffs, but in a
Speaker 3: terror fight shrill. I mean it's screaming. Actually, to remind me,
Speaker 3: was the t Rex and Jurassic Park coming at but
Speaker 3: really fast, and it's coming over this ridge line towards us.
Speaker 3: Now I'm realizing that I'm a guy who has three
Speaker 3: young adults with me. We're about to get killed by
Speaker 3: this creature because it's pissed off parent. It's coming after us.
Speaker 3: What would you do if your kids are screaming in
Speaker 3: the woods, You're gonna barrel out hurt whatever it's coming here.
Speaker 3: We're like one hundred and fifty yards from my bronco.
Speaker 3: I started chucking him down the hill, say run now,
Speaker 3: one of them, the chubby guy, he's about four hundred
Speaker 3: and some odd pounds. He's probably about five ten, right,
Speaker 3: so he's a pretty wide, hefty guy. If I've made
Speaker 3: him back to my bronco before you, I believe in
Speaker 3: your ass. Here he outran everybody. We get back in
Speaker 3: the bronco and we drive back to my house. And
Speaker 3: they lived right across the street. All these people like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, what happened? What happened. He's sitting there
Speaker 3: trying to describe how heavy these footsteps are coming at us.
Speaker 3: He's trying to jump up and they just try to
Speaker 3: like stomp down as he lands, and he's nowhere. Even
Speaker 3: the sounding of this thing. It's like a little thumb
Speaker 3: to oh oh. I explained what had happened. The people
Speaker 3: around us laugh giggled. The two guys and the girl
Speaker 3: they got pissed off. Now this one was pretty trippy.
Speaker 3: It's a few miles outside Marcola, a few miles outside
Speaker 3: of Springfield. I'm driving from Marcola to Springfield to go
Speaker 3: back home. I'm all by myself. I'm driving along. It's twilight.
Speaker 3: There's this one house that had one little light. There's
Speaker 3: no street lights on this road. It's all rural land woods.
Speaker 3: I noticing in the twilight shadows you got all the
Speaker 3: silhou There's a telephone pole maybe thirty feet tall if
Speaker 3: that standing next to it was something half of its height,
Speaker 3: and at that angle, my brain thought, oh, they're fixing
Speaker 3: the telephone pole that broke. As I'm driving by, that
Speaker 3: telephone pole is now something sticky on the side of
Speaker 3: the road waiting for me to pass by. As I do,
Speaker 3: it moves, I look behind me, because there was cars
Speaker 3: behind me a good distance. Everybody had their headlights on it.
Speaker 3: You could just see this thing literally block my rear
Speaker 3: window as it passes behind me. Are you familiar with
Speaker 3: the Paul Freeman footage. Yes, okay, how it was just
Speaker 3: a large mass and it didn't move its arms. Just
Speaker 3: across the road and two steps there's a bob wire fence.
Speaker 3: It's the three foot high bob wire fence. It came
Speaker 3: up to its knee. It nonchalantly just steps over it
Speaker 3: like it was nothing. This was a large sasquatch. That
Speaker 3: one really freaked me out.
Speaker 4: I do have one more, and stay tuned for more
Speaker 4: sasquatch out to sea. We'll be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: By this time, like I said, I had my Broncos camouflage.
Speaker 3: I'm going up to the wire Howard Trees Farm and
Speaker 3: I'm thinking this is like a few months later, me
Speaker 3: and my wife were actually arguing about how much money
Speaker 3: I was spending on this. We can't afford to you
Speaker 3: to constantly do all this sasquatch research and feed the kids.
Speaker 3: We got cars, we got bills, But I went up
Speaker 3: there that day. I'm driving up. Every part of my
Speaker 3: rig was camouflage paint, the grill, the mirrors, the hub caps, everything.
Speaker 3: I'm cruising along. There's this male sasquatch, probably seventy eight
Speaker 3: feet tall he was. He wasn't really a robust and
Speaker 3: he's sitting there just squatting on his berm that's about
Speaker 3: three feet high by four. It's the road and there's
Speaker 3: the berm, and he's right there and he's just looking
Speaker 3: at the clearing to my right. I went there later
Speaker 3: on and there's a prominent deer trail. I stopped the
Speaker 3: bronco and I'm looking at him. He's only thirty yards
Speaker 3: away of fat It sees me. He looks over and
Speaker 3: looks at me, doesn't really do anything. Then he's what
Speaker 3: the heck and he looks and he sees right inside
Speaker 3: the window and sees me staring at him. This happened
Speaker 3: before with a couple of deer on the roads where
Speaker 3: they're just sitting there, standing on the thing, and I
Speaker 3: just pull up and they're like, that's just a bush,
Speaker 3: and then they look in the windows see me and
Speaker 3: then run off. That's literally what he does is he
Speaker 3: just turns and he bolts off. I got one fuzzy
Speaker 3: picture with that one horrible camera of him is the
Speaker 3: top part of his head. He cleared one hundred yards
Speaker 3: and six and a half seconds if that. He was
Speaker 3: incredibly fast as soon as he got up and started running,
Speaker 3: I punched it to where he was. I grabbed that
Speaker 3: camera and I took two shots, so one was with
Speaker 3: him in it, and then the second one he was gone.
Speaker 3: Those were my encounters. I still today trip out about him.
Speaker 3: Always wanted to look for more, but I got really
Speaker 3: sick to the hazel nut trees, the grass pallen all
Speaker 3: that hit my allergy system so bad that my mini
Speaker 3: system was so compromised that I was bedridden shortly after,
Speaker 3: within two to three months, I was just beat red.
Speaker 3: I'm in bed, I can't do anything. So that was
Speaker 3: basically the ending of my actual saucequatching until he moved
Speaker 3: up to Washington. That's when I'm start to look for
Speaker 3: other groups to start going sasquatching with again.
Speaker 4: I want to go back and talk a little bit
Speaker 4: about the second encounter where you guys experience the missing time,
Speaker 4: because that's an interesting part of this. It's not the
Speaker 4: first time I've heard it in relation to these creatures.
Speaker 4: So I want to get a little bit of insight
Speaker 4: on how you approach your research and whether you're more
Speaker 4: in the flesh and blood camp or you do keep
Speaker 4: an open mind to some of the high strangeness. Do
Speaker 4: you think it's a possibility, And obviously it's objective, I
Speaker 4: don't think, you know, But do you think it's a
Speaker 4: possibility that this missing time that you guys experienced collectively,
Speaker 4: now you've got three people experiencing the same thing. Do
Speaker 4: you think it was something as physical as you guys
Speaker 4: passing out from fear or whatever and then waking up
Speaker 4: later or do you think there could have been more
Speaker 4: to it, meaning that this creature or these creatures were
Speaker 4: somehow involved in what happened to you physiologically to then
Speaker 4: lose the time.
Speaker 3: From all the research I've accumulated, I've read a lot
Speaker 3: of the books BFRO, I go through all of their sightings.
Speaker 3: Everything I learned was that these are ape creatures. Okay,
Speaker 3: they are not forest spirits. Like I said, I was
Speaker 3: raised Native American as well, so I know well about
Speaker 3: the lore. If you look through the lore, these were
Speaker 3: physical creatures. A lot of Native Americans viewed them as
Speaker 3: hostile giants, where some of them viewed them like the Sioux,
Speaker 3: as their elder brothers species. I know they are not Zanu,
Speaker 3: as doctor Matthew calls him. He was the psychiatrist that
Speaker 3: saw him at the Oregon Caves. He now has a
Speaker 3: camp up here in Washington where he dopes and cons
Speaker 3: people into paying tons of money. They go and experience
Speaker 3: these zanu but they have to keep their eyes closed
Speaker 3: and he tickles them and stuff, and oh, they're right here. Oh,
Speaker 3: don't worry about Oh. Me and him have hashed it
Speaker 3: out several times. They are not alien. I will tell
Speaker 3: you that right now. I discussed that with the guy
Speaker 3: who's part of the Flatbirst Society, saying that one of
Speaker 3: his friends saw an alien ship land and a sasquatch
Speaker 3: goes screaming out of that thing, just haul an ass.
Speaker 3: Now my understanding, if you're an alien and you're landing
Speaker 3: on a planet, you're not gonna go running screaming out
Speaker 3: of it. You're gonna walk out casual, kind of look
Speaker 3: around and see what's going on. These are nothing more
Speaker 3: than physical creatures that can adapt very well into their environment,
Speaker 3: that can hide very well from my I understand this
Speaker 3: camouflaging ability. I don't really think they're telepathic. Me and
Speaker 3: doctor Melodram have discussed this over a good amount of time.
Speaker 3: When John Green was alive, I discussed this with him
Speaker 3: on the phone many times. They both debunked my theory
Speaker 3: that some humans may have duvall dot Belgiums like people
Speaker 3: don't devolve, they just evolve. Me and him discussed about
Speaker 3: these sort of just species of ape that most likely
Speaker 3: had split off from a very small part of our family,
Speaker 3: a lineage right to where you got the Homo sapiens
Speaker 3: coming here, you got Africanists Robustus and the other ones
Speaker 3: going over there, you got the Heidelberg Man and these guys.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking these are more just an ape creature that's
Speaker 3: pretty intelligent. I don't think the media does it justice
Speaker 3: because back in the seventies everybody wanted their five minutes
Speaker 3: of frame, so they debunked it. One thing I think
Speaker 3: is the human psyche, especially us in America, don't want
Speaker 3: to know that there is a large creature that can
Speaker 3: flip a bronco thirty feet through the air if it
Speaker 3: wanted to, has the intelligence to basically learn sign language,
Speaker 3: could open doors, literally open doors, and steal food out
Speaker 3: of your refrigerator. These things are smart, intelligent creatures, just
Speaker 3: like apes chimpanzees, probably even a little bit more than
Speaker 3: both of them. I just don't think that the human
Speaker 3: mind really wants to know that these things are in
Speaker 3: their backyards until they're forced to confront them. I've discussed
Speaker 3: this with many other people who've come to me with
Speaker 3: their sidings. One guy was down in Florida. His family
Speaker 3: had these things looking in their second story window. That's
Speaker 3: how tall. The one that was coming around his house
Speaker 3: was the first thing you need to most likely do
Speaker 3: if you're really afraid of your family of being hurt
Speaker 3: by this creature, because what I understand is not trying
Speaker 3: to harm them at all, is just curious and why
Speaker 3: it's there. Build yourself electrified fence, a couple of touches,
Speaker 3: and it'll know to go away. I'm thinking also it
Speaker 3: is their interactions with human beings that really shape the
Speaker 3: fundamental relationship between sasquatches and humans. One guy fell down
Speaker 3: Mount Hood in Oregon, consigned himself to death, had broken limbs,
Speaker 3: broken ribs. He remembers that I'm about to die now.
Speaker 3: He feels something large pick him up in cradle. If
Speaker 3: he was an infant. He remembers that it was felt
Speaker 3: like he was being cuddled by a shag carpet. Right
Speaker 3: This thing took him down Mount Hood, put him on
Speaker 3: this person's doorstep and then took the person's house and
Speaker 3: reward and then started running off. The people come running out,
Speaker 3: see this wounded dude on their doorstep and sees the
Speaker 3: soas watch running out into the woods. Then Sandy org
Speaker 3: I think it is like nineteen ninety seven or something.
Speaker 3: Guy hears gunshots on the edge of his property, so
Speaker 3: his wife goes running out to see what's going on
Speaker 3: and why he went to go get his gun. And
Speaker 3: he comes out and sees this lorde sawsquatch just huffing
Speaker 3: and puffing like it was the one being shot at.
Speaker 3: Picks his wife up with one hand and throws her
Speaker 3: into a bunch of BlackBerry bushes and then runs off.
Speaker 3: Him and his friends had to cut through twenty five
Speaker 3: feet of BlackBerry bushes to get to her, and she
Speaker 3: had one hundred and thirty five stitches. They are ages.
Speaker 3: It's like us. Our interactions with other creatures will tell
Speaker 3: us how we're going to react to him in the future.
Speaker 4: I guess the last question before we get out of
Speaker 4: here is one that I've asked myself recently and other
Speaker 4: people obviously who've been on the show. These things are
Speaker 4: so elusive. It is the Flash of Beauty. It's a
Speaker 4: beautiful documentary that they put out a couple of years
Speaker 4: and it's the perfect name. I've referred to it so
Speaker 4: many times. It is a flash of beauty to get
Speaker 4: to see one of these creatures. Yet you've had so
Speaker 4: many encounters where you've had the opportunity to see them
Speaker 4: seven I've counted at least, and that's nine individuals that
Speaker 4: you've gotten to see to the point where you literally
Speaker 4: pissed on one of.
Speaker 3: That one's by accident. That was by accident.
Speaker 4: So let me ask you this. The question on my
Speaker 4: mind is how is it that you're able to have
Speaker 4: this many encounters with these things? Do you think it
Speaker 4: is something that's more high strangeness or the woo part
Speaker 4: of this, because I've talked to people who believe that
Speaker 4: these creatures show themselves to the people that they want
Speaker 4: to see them, or there's some sort of a connection
Speaker 4: basically they show themselves to whoever they want to see them, right,
Speaker 4: or is it just that you're putting yourself in a
Speaker 4: situation more often than other people who may not be
Speaker 4: paying attention to certain things.
Speaker 3: What do you think it is that's allowed you.
Speaker 4: To have this many encounters with them.
Speaker 3: I've actually discussed this with with multiple different people's loggers,
Speaker 3: avid hunters, hunters that are been hunting the ozarks for
Speaker 3: eighty five years and they were seen one before. Maybe
Speaker 3: it's because they recognize what a hunter is and stay
Speaker 3: well away from you your vision. I have literally put
Speaker 3: myself out there at least five six hundred times just
Speaker 3: going out in the woods. Jane Goodall, when she first
Speaker 3: started going out to look for the chips, she never
Speaker 3: saw one of them, so she would just sit there
Speaker 3: day after day, go the same area. Once they felt comfortable,
Speaker 3: they'd come out to see her. I started doing the
Speaker 3: same thing, go to the same area over and over
Speaker 3: and over again. Also, the sheer factor is I know
Speaker 3: the mathematics for what you need to have a sasquatch kill.
Speaker 3: One is nowhere there should be humans within two three
Speaker 3: miles now, stating that in Marcola they routinely have a
Speaker 3: sasquatch walking through their creek that scares the pea out
Speaker 3: of all their dogs. Two. You have to have ample
Speaker 3: good fresh water, a lot of trout, shellfish, little crawfish.
Speaker 3: You have to have a lot of vegetation that they
Speaker 3: can eat. Desert saucequatches are hard to really see because
Speaker 3: I don't think they want to eat cactin, and they
Speaker 3: have to have remote areas to where they will not
Speaker 3: be disturbed. If you're terrified of a creature that routinely
Speaker 3: visits your home area and you're terrified for you and
Speaker 3: your family, you're going to be moving out of that area.
Speaker 3: If aliens came down to Earth and just kept coming
Speaker 3: to Wyoming into Yellowstone Park, people would good Yellowstone Park.
Speaker 3: I grew up in the Rocky mountains, been around tons
Speaker 3: of animals, and there has been so many times an
Speaker 3: elk in a deer, pumas all should have had me
Speaker 3: because I was just a kid, and I should have
Speaker 3: been eaten, goreg stalm whatever. None of them did that,
Speaker 3: which is really strange. Maybe there is something of an
Speaker 3: extra century perception that I have picked up or something
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't believe sasquatches are capable of
Speaker 3: mind speaking to people. That's straight off the bat. But
Speaker 3: I think the most of it is that I know
Speaker 3: where to go sasquatching going over there over and over again.
Speaker 3: One thing I was doing a lot was bringing up
Speaker 3: like a CD player boombox. I wasn't playing rock and
Speaker 3: roll or anything with drums, because drums, if you think
Speaker 3: about with h smashing sounds, scare them. It's an intimidation display, right,
Speaker 3: So I would play didgeridobe music, aboriginal digeridubes, scottage bagpipes,
Speaker 3: cello music, flute music. I've had four deer come up.
Speaker 3: I'm playing long cillo. These deer just came out of
Speaker 3: the woodline. Their ears are all perked up, like what
Speaker 3: does that sound? What is that? And then they look
Speaker 3: at me and they're studying me. Then they realize, oh,
Speaker 3: it's hip, and then they leave. So that's also one
Speaker 3: thing that works. One thing I can suggest for people
Speaker 3: if they want sightings and also for the research is
Speaker 3: go get yourself an Insta three sixty camera, put it
Speaker 3: on a pole, put it on your head, get the
Speaker 3: little microphones that plug in with the little wind socks
Speaker 3: on them. Then go back. Just walk along, do your talking,
Speaker 3: not yelling or anything. Just go do your research. Go
Speaker 3: do your hikes. When you hear stuff, take a point
Speaker 3: on when how far it was in your filming. Then
Speaker 3: go back and look at that footage to zoom around
Speaker 3: to see you actually got a sasquatch.
Speaker 4: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll
Speaker 4: be right back after these.
Speaker 3: Messages because a lot of times I said, they don't
Speaker 3: want to be in your ice sight. They'd rather be
Speaker 3: out of the eye sight and looking at you and
Speaker 3: Heidi taking your cell phone and randomly slowly panning it
Speaker 3: here and there as you're looking ahead, you might catch one.
Speaker 3: But the bad thing about cell phones and digital cameras
Speaker 3: is they have an auto focused theatre, and when you're
Speaker 3: walking through a lot of brush, those cameras hate leaves.
Speaker 3: So that's where you get the lot of the whole.
Speaker 3: Oh it's a cloaked thing.
Speaker 4: Very good advice before we get out of here. I
Speaker 4: know you wrote a book. Why don't you tell us
Speaker 4: a little bit about your book where people can find it?
Speaker 4: Anything else you want to tell us about?
Speaker 3: Okay? I do run a YouTube channel, actually two of them.
Speaker 3: One is Chaos Entertainment that has like space background in
Speaker 3: green and yellow letters, random entertainment stuff.
Speaker 6: I am a.
Speaker 3: Siliac, so I do gluten free YouTube channel with my
Speaker 3: wife called Goodbye Gluten, Good Dash by Gluten. So we
Speaker 3: do all sorts of reviews restaurants and recipes and stuff.
Speaker 3: Grew out a great glazed ham recipe. One of the
Speaker 3: novels I wrote with Sasquatching, it was called Scion of
Speaker 3: Michael for the people who don't know what a scion is.
Speaker 3: Means the children of or the descendants, and Michael is
Speaker 3: the art angel. Michael, who comes to Earth, meets the
Speaker 3: new Mary, finds out that Satan is now hunting her down,
Speaker 3: sending all sorts of demons to get her, because if
Speaker 3: he impregnates her, he can open the gates of Heaven
Speaker 3: and start a new angelic war. Michael was sent down
Speaker 3: to stop it, ends up taking her from Colorado. The
Speaker 3: first creatures he meets on Earth again are a family
Speaker 3: of Sasquatches. He meets up with them. Their family helps
Speaker 3: fight a gigantic sixty foot tall menotaur. All of them
Speaker 3: die except what Raw, so they actually helped with some
Speaker 3: other mythical beings. One of the guys I loosely based
Speaker 3: off myself was one of the people he first met
Speaker 3: as a human, was telling him about Earth and what's
Speaker 3: going on. He sees this news that his family are
Speaker 3: in danger right some gigantic lizard monsters chasing them down
Speaker 3: the road literally on the news, and he's freaking azed. Okay,
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, Michael. I will do whatever you want,
Speaker 3: but we got to get to Washington as fast as
Speaker 3: possible so I know my family's safe. Fate happens shows
Speaker 3: them the way through a lot of weird stuff that
Speaker 3: goes on. Mychael is injured. They go to an area
Speaker 3: where rawl had been there in Washington before, like almost
Speaker 3: a migratory process, meets of these other saucequatches and find
Speaker 3: out that the demons not only have been attacking humans,
Speaker 3: but all sorts of creatures. So all the Sasquatches in
Speaker 3: the Pacific Northwest have been moving to this one valley,
Speaker 3: thousands of them. So Michael and the few humans with
Speaker 3: them and Mary are all now recovering. There's another angel
Speaker 3: that had showed up from a different solar system, risked
Speaker 3: persecution from the other angels to bring him one molecule
Speaker 3: of one of their elements that makes their armor, their
Speaker 3: swords and shields and all that sort of stuff. Michael
Speaker 3: takes that one element, gathers all the fighting males that
Speaker 3: were in the valley, tells them what's going on that
Speaker 3: they are the key people to help stop these creatures
Speaker 3: from harming their families. Of course, you know how protective
Speaker 3: males are for their families. They all agree. He takes
Speaker 3: this one molecule and creates armor for them, angelic armor,
Speaker 3: angelic weaponry, and then instantly with his mind trains them
Speaker 3: all how to do it, and they go on a march.
Speaker 3: Sasquatches can move pretty fast, so he marches them from
Speaker 3: Lake Shelan area to Seattle. They start unleashing battles and wars,
Speaker 3: and the US Army and Navy and all these guys
Speaker 3: have already been fighting in Seattle. Seattle's mostly been evacuated.
Speaker 3: There's see four hundred and fifty foot giants coming out
Speaker 3: of the Puget Sathem. Sasquatches just run up and start
Speaker 3: climbing up these things as they're going. That's the one book.
Speaker 3: The other one is Knights of Eternity, where Elvin Prince
Speaker 3: comes to Earth to find his bride. He meets some
Speaker 3: sasquatches and he's going to kill him. Literally. He sees
Speaker 3: these things running off and he's about to blow him
Speaker 3: away because they look like the trolls that attack his people.
Speaker 3: This one dragon that he's with no don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: They don't smell like the trolls. So that's the one
Speaker 3: incident of the Saucequatches that are in that book.
Speaker 4: We will link to that in the show notes so
Speaker 4: you guys can check them out.
Speaker 5: Greg.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you coming home, but really appreciate you guys
Speaker 3: having me on your podcast. Remember Sasquatch is always an odyssey.
Speaker 6: They say, you don't gotta go home, but you.
Speaker 3: Can't stay.
Speaker 6: Stasi Cho.
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