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<v Speaker 1>Meaning a light Man like this man letting butterfly flapping

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<v Speaker 1>and wan big down in the forest.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, it gonna cause the tree fold, letting five thousand

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<v Speaker 2>miles away.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, nobody seen nobody else. You don't need no man.

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<v Speaker 3>They liked you, followed another story and.

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<v Speaker 1>You got back in like that. That's when man got

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<v Speaker 1>blackly dag on the Panama Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, you don't don't matter. Man, all right, the Prudentialist.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to the Jay Burden Show.

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing, Man, I'm doing good.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. It's we're just we're off the heels of

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<v Speaker 2>a of a certain conference. So it's good to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to friends. I was just talking to in person again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's funny not to be too modeling about it. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just hit episode five hundred, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so I've been reminiscing a little bit. And very very

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<v Speaker 3>early in my pot casting career, you gave me some

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<v Speaker 3>phenomenal advice. This is like single digit episodes. And you

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<v Speaker 3>and I were talking and I had sent you an

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<v Speaker 3>outline for the show, and you were like, man, that's

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<v Speaker 3>great and all, but if you consider just talking and

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<v Speaker 3>not being weird and autistic and following an outline, and

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<v Speaker 3>genuinely I hadn't, and so, honoring your advice, I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>planned really a damn thing about the show ever since,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm glad that the advice I gave you led

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<v Speaker 2>to your meteoritic rise and success that I should have

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<v Speaker 2>followed myself. So I'm glad I can help others but

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<v Speaker 2>not me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Oh yes, that's the what is it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a profit in their own land and all that. That's

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<v Speaker 3>right here, not to talk about really anything serious at all,

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<v Speaker 3>but we're here for a movie review, the nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 3>classic Airplane, which this this is me kind of exposing

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<v Speaker 3>my I zoom her self. I'd actually never seen this

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<v Speaker 3>before today. Matt just completely missed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, well, I hope you enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had the great pleasure of about I want

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<v Speaker 2>to say, two weeks ago, I told we were going

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<v Speaker 2>through the TV just scrolling, I think, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>every married couple at some point just becomes someone who

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<v Speaker 2>just likes to scroll through what's available on their television.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh, Airplane, I haven't seen that forever.

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<v Speaker 2>This will be great. She's like, I've never seen it

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<v Speaker 2>before and I was like, oh, well, then you're in

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<v Speaker 2>for a royal treat. So I subjected my wife to

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<v Speaker 2>watching this for the first time and she was like,

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<v Speaker 2>that was great, but why are there a pair of

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<v Speaker 2>tits in like the middle of the film. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>why are you complaining?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, to be fair, uh valid question, although it

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<v Speaker 3>is far from the only uh non sequitur joke right,

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of out of nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>All of them.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so a couple of things. One not to

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<v Speaker 3>get two chin stroking, because let's be honest, this is

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<v Speaker 3>a fun movie and it's fun to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was struck by how they genuinely don't make

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<v Speaker 3>movies like this anymore, and not in the like, oh

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<v Speaker 3>they make the joke folks that you can't get away

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<v Speaker 3>with in Whoe Hollywood, but just like the actual structure

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<v Speaker 3>of the movie, like a ninety minute comedy movie, just

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<v Speaker 3>does not exist anymore. They're practically extinct, especially a sincere one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think everyone's trying to relive that because I

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<v Speaker 2>know that there's the what is it Scary?

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<v Speaker 1>Movie?

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<v Speaker 2>Six is still in movie theaters right now, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>still banking, of course off nostalgia from the early two

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<v Speaker 2>thousands comedies that they were obviously making fun of, and

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<v Speaker 2>those were parody movies, which we only really get those

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<v Speaker 2>because of you know, Zucker Abrams and Zuckers. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Airplane is their first directorial debut. They have like a

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<v Speaker 2>shoe string budget of like three and a half, like

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars, and this thing just it sells like hotcakes,

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<v Speaker 2>Like this is one of the funniest movies that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of brought on into pop culture history. It kind of

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<v Speaker 2>brought Leslie Nielsen's career away from being a dramatic, more

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<v Speaker 2>serious actor who's done like science fiction and television to

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<v Speaker 2>now just sort of being the straight man who plays

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<v Speaker 2>a completely dead pan in a comedy. So yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't get scary movie and all those other things

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<v Speaker 2>without airplay and Sucker Abrams and Sucker.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, it is interesting. I can't remember if you

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<v Speaker 3>were at the table for this conversation or not, Prude,

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<v Speaker 3>but at the conference, one of the things that came

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<v Speaker 3>up was the sort of bizarre situation Hollywood has found

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<v Speaker 3>itself in where they can't seem to make money back

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<v Speaker 3>with big tent poles. Obviously, exceptions to the rule. But

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<v Speaker 3>if you look at the Juggernauts of ten years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>they're flounder. Look at the suite of Disney products. But also,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the recent spat of remakes. Funny enough, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think the Naked Gun remake did particularly well,

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<v Speaker 3>but Hollywood Inc. Is flounder, and so there's been a move.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know friends who are on the receiving end

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<v Speaker 3>of this right who've been approached. But also just look

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<v Speaker 3>at the box office sort of a return to we

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<v Speaker 3>would call kind of micro budget films, you know, five

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<v Speaker 3>million dollars in down basically just as a financial decision,

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<v Speaker 3>like a chase man, like we can't keep losing, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and eighty two hundred million dollars every film.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to have something, and so you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>even if it only makes five million dollars back, at

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<v Speaker 3>least we broke even. But also they're pushing young talent,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, guys who aren't established screenwriters, who aren't established properties.

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<v Speaker 3>Really I think, in an attempt to regain some sort

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<v Speaker 3>of authenticity and relevance, and so that kind of chin

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<v Speaker 3>stroking aside prude, It is interesting to see a very

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<v Speaker 3>much kind of before times film obviously just in the

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<v Speaker 3>kind of construction and funding of it, but also it's

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<v Speaker 3>a silly movie, but it's pretty sincere. There's none of

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of like you know, would get the camera.

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<v Speaker 3>Like all of the actors are playing their silly roles seriously,

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<v Speaker 3>like they're they're selling out, which I think makes it

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<v Speaker 3>really refreshing. It's a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like the closest equivalent I can think of is

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<v Speaker 2>the I want to say it's the mid nineties, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Muppet Christmas Carol, where Michael Caine plays a Benezer Scrooge

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<v Speaker 2>completely straight despite being surrounded by you know, the Jim

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<v Speaker 2>Henson Companies Muppets and just you know he's He gives

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best performances. It is one of my

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<v Speaker 2>top like three favorite Christmas Carol adaptations, so I always

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<v Speaker 2>recommend it to people. But it is nice to see

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<v Speaker 2>something like this exists, because you're right, there is so

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<v Speaker 2>much meta commentary in a lot of comedy these days.

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<v Speaker 2>Like even when they were trying to market the Naked

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<v Speaker 2>Gun remake with Liam Neeson, you know, Liam Neeson is

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<v Speaker 2>basically parodying an ASPCA commercial saying like, you know, comedy

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<v Speaker 2>films in Hollywood are dying, but like you can save

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<v Speaker 2>them by like going to our film and it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds like a pity party at this point, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we've gone through such a tumultuous you know,

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<v Speaker 2>culture of what wokeness, whatever you want to call it,

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<v Speaker 2>just like where comedy is not something that's acceptable unless

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<v Speaker 2>you're somewhat being brash and edgy, which has led to

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<v Speaker 2>I think the uh rye of people like Shane Gillis

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<v Speaker 2>and others for being funny. But I mean that's really

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<v Speaker 2>in stand up that's not so much in film.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and I think it's such a refreshing change. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>really in the last two years we've witnessed the birth

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<v Speaker 3>of this term millennial writing. The examples would be like that, well,

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<v Speaker 3>that was awkward, you know, the kind of like deliberate

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<v Speaker 3>release of tension through kind of you know, undercutting the

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<v Speaker 3>core premise of the scene. And look like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>gonna pretend this is an Oscar winning film. It's a comedy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's genuinely funny, and as we've said, there are a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of it's sort of non sequitors, right, just throw

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<v Speaker 3>away jokes that aren't essential to the pot. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>comedy movie, but there's none of that sort of obnoxious

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<v Speaker 3>millennial smirking going on like that. You know, A large

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<v Speaker 3>portion of this is a romance. It is a classic

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<v Speaker 3>comedy in that sense. And of course there are jokes

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<v Speaker 3>in it, you know. There there's sort of these like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I guess you would say, sort of cutaways,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, where each party to the romance is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>imagining how they met each other moments from their relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course they're ridiculous, but it is sincere yeh,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've found that to be just like a very

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<v Speaker 3>refreshing tonic. So the other thing this movie does very

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<v Speaker 3>very well is that there are a number of repeat

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<v Speaker 3>gags that just genuinely made me laugh and again brutal

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<v Speaker 3>I'll throw it back to you in a second, But

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<v Speaker 3>as someone who's been on the Internet for a while,

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<v Speaker 3>I was astonished by how many memes and famous like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, images or gifts or whatever were from this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>So there were certain parts where like, oh, I remember that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like I've seen that before, and so I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like I finally have context for a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that modern meme culture has certainly made

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of previous movies either unwatchable or ten times

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<v Speaker 2>more enjoyable because of the meme culture around it. Last

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<v Speaker 2>year in twenty five in May, a friend of mine

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<v Speaker 2>sort of dragged me to the twentieth anniversary like re

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<v Speaker 2>release into theaters of Star Wars Episode three, Revenge of

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<v Speaker 2>the Sith. And I was ten years old when that

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<v Speaker 2>movie came out. I remember going to the like late

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<v Speaker 2>night premiere with my dad on bass and we did

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<v Speaker 2>like a trivia contest and everything, and so like now

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<v Speaker 2>it's twenty years later, and like Hayne Christiansen's like doing

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<v Speaker 2>the memes when he gets his little clip off before

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<v Speaker 2>the film begins. But it was kind of funny for

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<v Speaker 2>me because I'm sitting there and then I'm watching people

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<v Speaker 2>who are clearly younger than me, who probably grew up

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<v Speaker 2>with like are slash the prequel memes, and like they're

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<v Speaker 2>just like scrolling through the phone during every scene and

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<v Speaker 2>like pointing to the phone when like a meme moment

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<v Speaker 2>gets quoted. So for me, I did you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>watched this movie probably a little too early in life

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<v Speaker 2>before I was like really an overly online person, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>when I was just beginning to become on the Internet.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, no, there's a lot of quotable, memeable moments

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<v Speaker 2>in there, and I think people forget that, Like before

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<v Speaker 2>social media, there would just be like those three or

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<v Speaker 2>four movies that you and your friends would quote in

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<v Speaker 2>reference to each other because they were such a universal

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's seen this and everyone knows that this is funny moment,

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of the context. And Airplane is certainly one of

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<v Speaker 2>those movies.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm actually I'm curious to get what those movies were

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<v Speaker 3>for you, because for me, it was Napoleon Dynamite. This

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<v Speaker 3>sounds really stupid listing about Napoleon Dynamite, MONI just all

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<v Speaker 3>of Monty Python and then Shrek, which it kind of

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<v Speaker 3>neatly places exactly what culture I was in. But what

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<v Speaker 3>were those movies for you, prude?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so Shrek was definitely one of them, absolutely for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was always I didn't wash a lot of this

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<v Speaker 2>I do a lot of Faulty like Faulty Towers was

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<v Speaker 2>Ted and things like that. But I mean for my

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<v Speaker 2>the early two thousands, whether you know, quoting Talladegan Knights

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<v Speaker 2>or step Brothers. Those were always really popular. And then

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<v Speaker 2>Grail I think was the one that was cited almost

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<v Speaker 1>Right you remember the cake being a lie?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, yes I do, And just hearing those words

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<v Speaker 2>Relatively universal, but at the Halo theme where you'd get

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<v Speaker 2>arrangement in a bathroom or a gym. And people are

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<v Speaker 2>second remake of Halo Combat of all that comes out

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<v Speaker 2>next month.

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<v Speaker 3>Time is a flat circle. And somehow this is even

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<v Speaker 3>more grim than true to Decative. But to return to

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<v Speaker 3>the film again, one of the sort of repeat, I

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<v Speaker 3>religious groups and political activists asking for like to pin

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<v Speaker 3>a flower on you, And of course you know it's

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<v Speaker 3>ridiculous at first, and then there's a scene kind of

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<v Speaker 3>two thirds of the way through whereas you know this

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<v Speaker 3>airplane disasters continued, this kind of weathered you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>the plane, and there's just a John Wicks style fight scene,

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<v Speaker 3>which was so far from what I expected, even seeing

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<v Speaker 3>the joke run again. And this movie does a very

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<v Speaker 3>good job of repeating a joke but amplifying it so

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<v Speaker 3>it becomes funnier. Another example is the you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>but whatever substance he's recently quit gets more and more extreme.

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<v Speaker 3>Untiled by the climax of the movie, he's just huffing

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<v Speaker 3>a child prood, but that made me laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's always consistency, escalation and follow through and the

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<v Speaker 2>glutt The gags throughout this film are so viscerally physical.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my favorites that never fails to get a

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<v Speaker 2>chuckle out of me, despite the time I've seen this

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<v Speaker 2>movie probably like five or six times. Is Shit's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>hit the fan? And then just it immediately cuts to

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<v Speaker 2>just like a fake pile of fece he's slamming into

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<v Speaker 2>like one of those little tiny office fans that oscillates,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just like, this is exactly what I expect

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<v Speaker 2>out of this movie. It consistently sets up, it delivers.

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<v Speaker 2>I think my favorite repeating gag is that every time,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Striker is trying to talk about Elaine and

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<v Speaker 2>how he met her and how they fell in love,

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<v Speaker 2>like whoever's listening to him just kills themselves. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 2>it finally stops right before like the the the Buddhist

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's incredibly unexpected the first time because he's talking

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<v Speaker 3>to this like nice old lady, and then when the

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<v Speaker 3>flashback is done, the camera pulls back and it's just

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<v Speaker 3>her feet dangling. Such a simple joke, but it genuinely

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<v Speaker 3>got me. One are the other elements of this, which

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<v Speaker 3>is very much of another time, is uh the racial humor,

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<v Speaker 3>Like there are multiple elements to this. Uh you know,

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<v Speaker 3>of course you have you know, the two black guys

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<v Speaker 3>on the on the plane and they're speaking in Jive

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<v Speaker 3>and the film translates it for you. They have subtitles

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<v Speaker 3>and like very proper Queen's English decoding what they're saying,

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<v Speaker 3>which that made me laugh. And then of course the

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<v Speaker 3>follow up is, you know when another one of these

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<v Speaker 3>kind of you know, uh, you know, floral hat wearing

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<v Speaker 3>old ladies comes forward to translate and drops into perfect

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<v Speaker 3>aa ve and uh yeah, man, it got me. What

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<v Speaker 3>can I say?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a funny appreciated that she was speaking.

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<v Speaker 2>There were no subtitles and it was just left entirely

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<v Speaker 2>up to the imagination of the viewer to understand. And

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was played out so perfectly because of

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<v Speaker 2>their tone and facial expression.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it worked out great. And it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>We were talking about remakes and reboots, you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>a few minutes earlier, and it's like, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>one time. You know, so many shows get adapted from

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<v Speaker 2>say the Greater Anglo sphere into America, and they usually

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<v Speaker 2>are not as good, but this is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>few times where a Canadian film is adapted for American

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<v Speaker 2>audiences and it just blows it away. Airplane is sort

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<v Speaker 2>of a plot for plot remake slash parody of Zero

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<v Speaker 2>Hour or you know, Striker as a Canadian fighter pilot

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<v Speaker 2>and here Striker's American.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's one of the other things that's just completely

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<v Speaker 3>nonsensical is the relative timeline of this, right, because of

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<v Speaker 3>course this is a film in the eighties, but most

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<v Speaker 3>of the callback are sort of dripping with like like

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<v Speaker 3>World War two Americana, you know, like the kind of

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<v Speaker 3>the love interest in right, it's sort of you can

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<v Speaker 3>imagine it out of something like South Pacific, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the kind of you know bar in the Pacific where

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<v Speaker 3>you know, all the sailors and pilots are you know,

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<v Speaker 3>enjoying sort of a you know, beer and some music.

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<v Speaker 3>And then of course it's completely ridiculous, right, the people

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<v Speaker 3>fighting in the back, it's basically like two women mud wrestling.

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<v Speaker 3>The one joke I will say that and maybe this

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<v Speaker 3>is just my zoomer attention span that didn't age great

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<v Speaker 3>was the disco number just because of how long it

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<v Speaker 3>went on, Like it was still funny, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>look like I can't watch a film with up subway

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<v Speaker 3>surfer at the bottom. That's a very tepid point of criticism.

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<v Speaker 2>I did appreciate that it's like there it's two girl scouts,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least they look like girl scouts that are

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<v Speaker 2>like cheating at cards, and they just keep fighting the

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<v Speaker 2>remainder of the scene. But I mean, like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>what makes it to me, what I appreciate abut it

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<v Speaker 2>is is that like this is clearly riffing off of

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<v Speaker 2>a World War two, you know, kind of like flashbackstory,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, this is disco and we're in the

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<v Speaker 2>sixties now over an unknown and it's just as the war,

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<v Speaker 2>which of course, you know, we're thinking World War two,

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<v Speaker 2>the big one, and then of course there's like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Kennedy's Peace Corps, and I don't know, just the whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing is fine with me because it's just like this

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<v Speaker 2>is so out of place and out of time despite

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that this is nineteen eighty that it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of has a strange sense of timelessness for a film.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's what forty six years old.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, plus or minus. I mean, the there's another it's

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<v Speaker 3>this tiny, little like throwaway gag, but you know, obviously

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<v Speaker 3>the drama is that our main character was forced to

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<v Speaker 3>land the plane dude to you know incapacitation of the crew,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's got it, you know, a bad experience from

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<v Speaker 3>the war and when he's having this sort of dramatic flash.

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<v Speaker 3>It starts out first with kind of you know World

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<v Speaker 3>War two combat footage, you know, playing over his you know,

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<v Speaker 3>sweating face, and then over the course of it, it

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<v Speaker 3>gets to more and more primitive airplanes, until it's the

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like multi winged bicycles falling off clips. And

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why, but for some reason I found

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<v Speaker 3>that incredibly amusing. What are the other, if we're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about kind of gags in this that you see constantly

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<v Speaker 3>is the brief aside when he and his girlfriend are

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<v Speaker 3>in the Peace Corps and they go to a tribe

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<v Speaker 3>in Africa, which is an image I've seen, prude, Do

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<v Speaker 3>you remember that part? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they're doing the whole well, we're trying trying

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<v Speaker 2>to teach them American culture and they have no sense

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<v Speaker 2>of calisthenics and they're just naturals in basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Again, it's funny. The uh. There's also a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, cultural references. Some of which I got,

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<v Speaker 3>some of which I didn't, you know obviously, just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not familiar with h you know, the specifics of

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<v Speaker 3>whatever basketball team Kareem Kareem abdul Jabbar was playing with

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen eighty. But the cutaway gag to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the heroin in this movie trying to sell tribesmen tupperware.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just such a ridiculous idea, and the gag goes

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<v Speaker 3>on for long enough to make it much funnier than

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<v Speaker 3>that is any right to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I'm not you and I are both

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<v Speaker 2>well past the time of I think the original Tupperware

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<v Speaker 2>and the emergence of multi level marketing, But I think

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<v Speaker 2>there is still sort of this timeless quality of just

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<v Speaker 2>like now, remember you know, like if you get like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you sell X number of things, that's you you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get to hear because I like, when I

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<v Speaker 2>was in college, like, there were certain MLMs that were

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<v Speaker 2>whether they were selling knives or working for like a

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<v Speaker 2>shifty insurance company or something thing like that. So that

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<v Speaker 2>part was funny, Like this is this is I guess

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<v Speaker 2>what you would call like white woman culture circa nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty nineteen seventy nine. It's it's it's something that's a

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<v Speaker 2>little beyond our time, but it still works, honestly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I mentioned the Kareem Abdul Jabbar joke. The

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<v Speaker 3>joke is, of course that he is the co pilot

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<v Speaker 3>of this plane and he is actually Kareem Abdul Jabbar

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<v Speaker 3>just trying to make extra cash. And he's not in

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<v Speaker 3>much of the movie. But that is a very funny

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<v Speaker 3>idea for a you know, at the time kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like top level sports star to play that role. It's

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<v Speaker 3>oddly self deprecating, right from like the guy on the

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<v Speaker 3>Ladies box.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I mean he's played I think in everything

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00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:49.119
<v Speaker 2>I have ever seen him in on television, because I

420
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<v Speaker 2>mean he'll do guest cameo appearances and for as long

421
00:21:53.319 --> 00:21:56.880
<v Speaker 2>as he's had a he had a film career, TV career,

422
00:21:57.079 --> 00:21:59.640
<v Speaker 2>he's always played himself. So it's like, oh, that's Kareem

423
00:21:59.640 --> 00:22:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Abdul Jabbar, I say pointing out because I think he

424
00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:04.640
<v Speaker 2>made an appearance on I think Seinfeld. I think he

425
00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:06.680
<v Speaker 2>made an appearance on Scrubs at one point in time.

426
00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:09.400
<v Speaker 2>So my millennial brain is like, oh, I know who

427
00:22:09.440 --> 00:22:12.480
<v Speaker 2>this is by the TV aspect of his celebrity, not

428
00:22:13.000 --> 00:22:15.400
<v Speaker 2>whatever basketball career he may or may not have had,

429
00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:17.279
<v Speaker 2>but just does not totally apply to me.

430
00:22:19.119 --> 00:22:23.599
<v Speaker 3>Well, and really the the moment that it's revealed, because again,

431
00:22:23.680 --> 00:22:26.319
<v Speaker 3>like I know who that is, and I know what

432
00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:29.039
<v Speaker 3>he looks like, again primarily as an older actor, but

433
00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:31.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm not familiar enough with him to instantly have picked

434
00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:35.519
<v Speaker 3>out the celebrity cameo. And uh. One of the chores

435
00:22:35.559 --> 00:22:38.960
<v Speaker 3>of the most shocking source of comedy in this is

436
00:22:39.119 --> 00:22:43.559
<v Speaker 3>uh is the children in this because there are multiple

437
00:22:43.599 --> 00:22:47.119
<v Speaker 3>seeds with kids that of course, you know, Jabbar's identity

438
00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:50.240
<v Speaker 3>is revealed when a kid comes up into the cockpit,

439
00:22:50.559 --> 00:22:52.440
<v Speaker 3>which okay, you know what, let's just take an aside

440
00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:55.640
<v Speaker 3>as someone who just had a relatively hellish airline experience

441
00:22:55.920 --> 00:22:59.559
<v Speaker 3>pre nine to eleven, air travel looks magical. Like that

442
00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:02.000
<v Speaker 3>is the most outlandish aspect of this.

443
00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:05.640
<v Speaker 1>The world grow up no longer exists.

444
00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:08.680
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, exactly. It's like, oh, of course, it's like

445
00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:10.759
<v Speaker 3>a stupid movie but the idea that it was not

446
00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:14.279
<v Speaker 3>completely improbable for a kid to just ask to go

447
00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:16.880
<v Speaker 3>see the cockpit, or that someone could just walk in

448
00:23:16.920 --> 00:23:19.920
<v Speaker 3>and buy an airline ticket, you know, minutes before a

449
00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:22.519
<v Speaker 3>flight left off, or that you would get I don't know,

450
00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:27.240
<v Speaker 3>something recognizable as food on an airline. It's like, again,

451
00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:31.039
<v Speaker 3>stupid movie. You know, this isn't exactly like an insightful

452
00:23:31.480 --> 00:23:33.559
<v Speaker 3>bit of cultural analysis, but you look at it, here's like,

453
00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:37.359
<v Speaker 3>what why did we have to stop living like this?

454
00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's really bad when a nineteen eighties disaster

455
00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:45.240
<v Speaker 2>film parody is showing you how good you had it

456
00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:48.079
<v Speaker 2>back then without knowing it. I was surprised by just

457
00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:53.920
<v Speaker 2>the seating arrangements and the leg room and the spaciousness

458
00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:55.680
<v Speaker 2>of it all. It's just like, oh wow, this was

459
00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:59.559
<v Speaker 2>a much nicer time to fly. And my recent flight

460
00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:02.519
<v Speaker 2>experience have not been pleasant at all. Like, I will

461
00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:06.000
<v Speaker 2>never tell anyone to fly United just because of the

462
00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:09.559
<v Speaker 2>terrible flight experiences I had when going to Tim Poole's studio.

463
00:24:09.640 --> 00:24:12.759
<v Speaker 2>It was just not a good time, and it's just yeah,

464
00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:15.839
<v Speaker 2>airports would become completely hellish. And although the one time

465
00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I've seen anyone schill religion. At an airport was a

466
00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:24.920
<v Speaker 2>group of Black Jehovah's witnesses having a little stand and

467
00:24:25.039 --> 00:24:28.680
<v Speaker 2>talking to me about true worship and true God. And

468
00:24:28.759 --> 00:24:31.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Oh, it's just like airplane, not you know,

469
00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:37.839
<v Speaker 2>weird bizarre heretical sex trying to shill me their bizarre

470
00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:39.759
<v Speaker 2>backwards idea of so teiology.

471
00:24:40.799 --> 00:24:44.799
<v Speaker 3>That's actually a really great response to when the LDS

472
00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:47.480
<v Speaker 3>guys come knocking on your door is just to open door. Oh,

473
00:24:47.519 --> 00:24:48.839
<v Speaker 3>it's just like airplane.

474
00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:52.640
<v Speaker 2>And then immediately it's actually really nice to the LDS

475
00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:54.680
<v Speaker 2>guys that come knocking on my door because I know

476
00:24:54.839 --> 00:24:58.079
<v Speaker 2>that like, Okay, you're nineteen, You've known this thing your

477
00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:02.279
<v Speaker 2>entire life. You barely have any diem money, your partner

478
00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:05.079
<v Speaker 2>or whoever you're with like changes every six weeks, and

479
00:25:05.119 --> 00:25:07.960
<v Speaker 2>you have little contact with anybody outside of the world.

480
00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:10.440
<v Speaker 2>And they kind of like encourage you to like report

481
00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:12.599
<v Speaker 2>on each other. So I just let them in and

482
00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:14.920
<v Speaker 2>I let them give their spiel for twenty minutes because

483
00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:16.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you guys can take a break, would you

484
00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:18.960
<v Speaker 2>like something to drink? And then I always just ask

485
00:25:19.079 --> 00:25:21.640
<v Speaker 2>towards the end, I'm like, so, who is Jesus And

486
00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:24.559
<v Speaker 2>sometimes I get wildly different answers, Like I had someone

487
00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:26.519
<v Speaker 2>confess that Jesus was God, and I was like, Okay,

488
00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:27.480
<v Speaker 2>we're on the right track.

489
00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:30.200
<v Speaker 1>But I just let them have a good time.

490
00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:32.000
<v Speaker 2>But the next time someone knocks on my door because

491
00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:34.039
<v Speaker 2>I've had Jehovah's witnesses, I'm just gonna say, oh, this

492
00:25:34.119 --> 00:25:37.319
<v Speaker 2>is just like airplane. That's a great I'm doing that

493
00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:38.079
<v Speaker 2>from now on.

494
00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Jay. End of discussion.

495
00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:44.160
<v Speaker 3>Well, prude, are you aware that, uh one of the

496
00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:48.599
<v Speaker 3>people you met at the conference is a deeply committed Mormon?

497
00:25:49.920 --> 00:25:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Did I?

498
00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Thomas Wayne Riley is the most serious Mormon I've

499
00:25:54.000 --> 00:25:56.920
<v Speaker 3>ever met. Now, putting that aside.

500
00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:00.200
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have a chance. I didn't talk religion with anybody,

501
00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:03.119
<v Speaker 2>which was kind of nice. But that's that's good to know.

502
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'll let me tell you Thomas Wayne Riley, he

503
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:10.960
<v Speaker 3>is incredibly serious about the whole thing, the magic underwear,

504
00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:14.480
<v Speaker 3>all of it. He may deny this, but deep in

505
00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:17.720
<v Speaker 3>his heart he is bring him young, strongest soldier. The

506
00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:21.880
<v Speaker 3>children in this again, like I've said, produce some of

507
00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:25.920
<v Speaker 3>the most shocking moments in this The pilot of our

508
00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:30.200
<v Speaker 3>plane is just a gay pedophile. There's really no way

509
00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:33.319
<v Speaker 3>to sugarcoat that. And when this kid comes up to

510
00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:38.799
<v Speaker 3>the cockpit, the questions he asks him are so completely

511
00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:42.400
<v Speaker 3>over the top that I could barely control myself, like

512
00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:45.160
<v Speaker 3>he The first thing he asks him is if he's

513
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:48.359
<v Speaker 3>ever been to a changing room in a gym? And

514
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:50.680
<v Speaker 3>then the conversation moves on. He pulls him aside. He goes,

515
00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:55.039
<v Speaker 3>you ever been to a Turkish prison before? Why? That

516
00:26:55.160 --> 00:27:00.240
<v Speaker 3>line made me laugh so hard again, just so like direct,

517
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:01.519
<v Speaker 3>She asked.

518
00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's like, have you ever been in a

519
00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:08.319
<v Speaker 2>cockpit before? No, I've started ever been in a plane before?

520
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:09.920
<v Speaker 2>See this is how bad it is because I'm just

521
00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:11.480
<v Speaker 2>quoting it now. Verbain is like, well, have you ever

522
00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:12.599
<v Speaker 2>seen a grown man naked?

523
00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:15.319
<v Speaker 1>Do you like Fladiator movies? Have you ever been to

524
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:16.480
<v Speaker 1>a Turkish bath house?

525
00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:20.039
<v Speaker 2>And it's just like, oh, you know, obviously like just

526
00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:24.720
<v Speaker 2>gay pedophile, but for some reason it's played completely straight

527
00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:25.799
<v Speaker 2>for laughs.

528
00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:27.759
<v Speaker 1>And not I got total reality.

529
00:27:28.279 --> 00:27:30.759
<v Speaker 3>It's the Turkish bathhouse. And then another one he goes,

530
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:34.559
<v Speaker 3>do you know what happens in prison? The conversation just

531
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:38.319
<v Speaker 3>moves on, and uh, you know, I'm not gonna pretend

532
00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:40.960
<v Speaker 3>to be a high brow figure. Matt but there's something

533
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.480
<v Speaker 3>about the suggestion of prison r H being explained to

534
00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:46.960
<v Speaker 3>a child that I find amusing. I mean, there's another

535
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:50.279
<v Speaker 3>one where it's two you know, very well dressed children

536
00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:54.079
<v Speaker 3>and one offers the other coffee and this little like

537
00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:57.319
<v Speaker 3>eight year old girl very seriously you know, looks at

538
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.400
<v Speaker 3>the guy offering her coffee when you know, you ask

539
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:03.160
<v Speaker 3>if she wants any sugar for cream, and she just goes, no,

540
00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:06.240
<v Speaker 3>I like my coffee, like I like my one men black.

541
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:09.119
<v Speaker 3>You see the kid do the sort of like Kevin

542
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:15.279
<v Speaker 3>McAllister Grimace, but uh, just a throwaway gag somehow, you know,

543
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:17.920
<v Speaker 3>still shocking to me when children say things like that.

544
00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:23.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's something that uh where children are the ones

545
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:25.759
<v Speaker 2>that offer the delivery line that that one.

546
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:26.559
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I don't.

547
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:28.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not really a big fan of things where like, oh,

548
00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:31.559
<v Speaker 2>the kid says something completely inappropriate at a left field

549
00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:34.160
<v Speaker 2>for gags like so I went on a weird My

550
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:36.920
<v Speaker 2>YouTube algorithm was like, hey, Matt, you like celebrities, don't you,

551
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:38.799
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, actually, no, YouTube, I don't. It's like,

552
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:41.079
<v Speaker 2>would you like to watch a YouTube channel called Hollywood

553
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Babylon where we discuss the life and times and the

554
00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:46.960
<v Speaker 2>career of Randy Quaid, and I'm like, well, I've got

555
00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:49.200
<v Speaker 2>a long drive YouTube, so why not. So I listened

556
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:50.920
<v Speaker 2>to like two and a half hours of this guy

557
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:55.000
<v Speaker 2>explaining Randy Quaid's kind of obsession with star whackers and

558
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:58.119
<v Speaker 2>his wife and everything like that. And the last film

559
00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:00.359
<v Speaker 2>he ever did was called The Tennis Coach. We're showing

560
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:02.200
<v Speaker 2>clips from it where the children are just saying the

561
00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:05.799
<v Speaker 2>most obscene, horrendous stuff imaginable, and I'm like, oh, yeah,

562
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:08.000
<v Speaker 2>this is this is an early two thousands comedy. And

563
00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:10.839
<v Speaker 2>then for some reason, I just find the coffee gag

564
00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:13.359
<v Speaker 2>because they're both so professionally and nicely dressed, like the

565
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:15.480
<v Speaker 2>kids in a little suit, like it's a Sunday best

566
00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:18.559
<v Speaker 2>and this woman is just like, actually, no, I don't

567
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:21.400
<v Speaker 2>like you at all, so don't even attempt anything because

568
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:23.519
<v Speaker 2>I like black guys. And it's like, for some reason,

569
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:26.200
<v Speaker 2>this is way more of a good gag than some

570
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:28.279
<v Speaker 2>little girl saying the F word a lot.

571
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:28.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

572
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:32.599
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think the reason it works is because it's

573
00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:36.559
<v Speaker 3>only done once. And you know the other gag, right,

574
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:40.200
<v Speaker 3>both you know, featuring children is the exact opposite, right,

575
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:42.920
<v Speaker 3>It's treading on the taboo of adults saying the most

576
00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:45.759
<v Speaker 3>depraved things to children. You know, this is obviously the

577
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:48.200
<v Speaker 3>vice versa, and I think where it becomes irritating, Like

578
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:51.160
<v Speaker 3>I think of that film like like Bad Grandpa, right

579
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:53.960
<v Speaker 3>from the guys who did Jackass, which is not particularly

580
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:57.640
<v Speaker 3>funny because it only has one joke and it sticks

581
00:29:57.640 --> 00:29:59.799
<v Speaker 3>on it for the full run time, whereas this is

582
00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:01.839
<v Speaker 3>it It was a twenty second gag in an hour

583
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:03.519
<v Speaker 3>and a half long film, right, just kind of a

584
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:06.799
<v Speaker 3>quick little throw away, and you know, yeah, it does

585
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:10.599
<v Speaker 3>get grading quickly, but especially out of left field, right,

586
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:13.079
<v Speaker 3>this isn't a major focal point of the movie. Uh,

587
00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:17.960
<v Speaker 3>it's particularly effective. One of the the other things is that,

588
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.519
<v Speaker 3>and I've noticed this in all of the this kind

589
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.400
<v Speaker 3>of run from you know of kind of Comedies featuring

590
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:34.039
<v Speaker 3>Leslie Nielsen, is that the imitation parody movies were so

591
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:40.480
<v Speaker 3>much worse because the gags themselves are both funny and referential.

592
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:43.920
<v Speaker 3>The joke is not don't you remember when you know?

593
00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:47.440
<v Speaker 3>It's sort of a nod to something else, and also

594
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:51.599
<v Speaker 3>it is far from the only humor in it. Like

595
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:53.680
<v Speaker 3>I think of you know that obviously you had like

596
00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:56.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, scary movie and all of those, but there

597
00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:59.640
<v Speaker 3>were just dozens and dozens and dozens of kind of

598
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:03.920
<v Speaker 3>low budget derivations, like I think of a parody of

599
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:06.839
<v Speaker 3>the Hunger Games that came out, you know when when

600
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:09.240
<v Speaker 3>that movie did, and it was one of those like

601
00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:14.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, shot on video, like horrible direct to Netflix

602
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:18.279
<v Speaker 3>style films, and obviously the quality is much lower, just

603
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:20.839
<v Speaker 3>fidelity wise, the quality is much lower on a writing

604
00:31:20.839 --> 00:31:23.839
<v Speaker 3>and technical level, but it is also basically the whole

605
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:27.319
<v Speaker 3>joke is don't you remember this thing? And it's a

606
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:29.960
<v Speaker 3>shocking contrast to kind of like the originator of that pattern,

607
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:31.480
<v Speaker 3>if you see what I'm getting at, Brude.

608
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:36.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and those films were terrible, especially because they never

609
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.839
<v Speaker 2>cribbed from said source material accurately. Because I think one

610
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:44.039
<v Speaker 2>of the first ones that I mean, outside a scary movie,

611
00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:46.759
<v Speaker 2>I distinctly remember Superhero movie and I think this was

612
00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:49.920
<v Speaker 2>like right after Leslie Nielsen had died, because they had

613
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:52.640
<v Speaker 2>found someone who looks just like him, and they were

614
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.039
<v Speaker 2>doing the obvious like Sam Raimi Spider Man parody from

615
00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:59.640
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and one, and they're playing it completely straight,

616
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:01.559
<v Speaker 2>but like the one at least had a plot to

617
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:04.640
<v Speaker 2>play off of whereas a lot of those later films

618
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:07.319
<v Speaker 2>that they were they would literally just pull stuff from

619
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.960
<v Speaker 2>movie trailers and never from the films themselves, because they

620
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:13.519
<v Speaker 2>were trying that desperately to be relevant and to get

621
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:14.440
<v Speaker 2>in on the.

622
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:16.119
<v Speaker 1>Cash grab before it got stale.

623
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:19.240
<v Speaker 2>Because like I think everything from Kung Fu Panda to

624
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:22.359
<v Speaker 2>like the First Pirates of the Caribbean film were there

625
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.599
<v Speaker 2>were countless of those that were made in the early

626
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:30.160
<v Speaker 2>two thousands that are just absolute trash. Whereas this is,

627
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:34.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, a gag every twenty seconds. There are callbacks

628
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:36.920
<v Speaker 2>and references to those who pay attention. There are those

629
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:39.200
<v Speaker 2>freeze frame gags where if you pause the film or

630
00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:42.440
<v Speaker 2>the VHS, like you're really going to appreciate all the

631
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:46.559
<v Speaker 2>insanity in there. Like there's one where like a nun

632
00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:49.480
<v Speaker 2>is reading you know, boys Life of course, like the

633
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.759
<v Speaker 2>classic boy Scott's American magazine, and then like we go

634
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>back to the boy who was giving away the coffee

635
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:57.880
<v Speaker 2>to the little girl and he's reading like nuns Life,

636
00:32:58.240 --> 00:32:59.880
<v Speaker 2>and I think there's like a point where he's like

637
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:03.079
<v Speaker 2>folding it out, like there's a centerfold somewhere inside. It's

638
00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:06.160
<v Speaker 2>just like this is something that I wouldn't expect from anything,

639
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:08.640
<v Speaker 2>and it's I guess the proper use of, you know,

640
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:11.880
<v Speaker 2>my subversion of my expectations, because what is comedy other

641
00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:14.839
<v Speaker 2>than the subversion of my expectations with something well timed

642
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:18.480
<v Speaker 2>and executed in comparison to things played seriously. So, I

643
00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:21.519
<v Speaker 2>mean an Airplane on a technical level, for just its

644
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:25.640
<v Speaker 2>writing is so tight because it never focuses on one

645
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:29.119
<v Speaker 2>gag forever, and when it does a callback, it continues

646
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:30.519
<v Speaker 2>to play off of it, and they know when to

647
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:34.000
<v Speaker 2>stop it. Like I mentioned earlier, like there's the Japanese

648
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:36.960
<v Speaker 2>guy he talks to who's like a Japanese World War

649
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.400
<v Speaker 2>two officer, and as he's talking about the war in

650
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:42.240
<v Speaker 2>a lane, he like kills himself, you know, the traditional

651
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.599
<v Speaker 2>seppuku style, and it's just like well, and then it stops,

652
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:47.640
<v Speaker 2>of course with the Buddhists when Striker gets called up

653
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:50.200
<v Speaker 2>to pilot the airplane and he just looks at the

654
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:53.000
<v Speaker 2>match and himself, you know, dows in gasoline and he's

655
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:54.720
<v Speaker 2>just like, oh, thank God, I don't have to go

656
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:55.359
<v Speaker 2>through with this.

657
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:01.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, there's there's a lot to that. You know,

658
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:06.160
<v Speaker 3>the pace of this movie is incredibly quick. When I

659
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:10.159
<v Speaker 3>first started watching it. As often when I watch films

660
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:12.800
<v Speaker 3>for podcasts, I'll put them on you know, one point

661
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.599
<v Speaker 3>twenty five or one point five speed, just because you know,

662
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:17.800
<v Speaker 3>to make an hour long podcast. If you spend two

663
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:20.000
<v Speaker 3>and a half hours watching a movie, you know, the

664
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.039
<v Speaker 3>production time can add up when you put out as

665
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:25.280
<v Speaker 3>much slop as I do. But that said, I almost

666
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:29.039
<v Speaker 3>immediately had to turn this down because you miss things constantly.

667
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:32.320
<v Speaker 3>It goes so quickly and in a way that sort

668
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:35.599
<v Speaker 3>of like creates this sort of like mad cat pace

669
00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:38.920
<v Speaker 3>through the whole thing that really lends to the sort

670
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:42.239
<v Speaker 3>of like silliness of it. Like, yeah, sure there's clever writing,

671
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:43.840
<v Speaker 3>but a lot of it is also just sort of

672
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:47.639
<v Speaker 3>looney tuned style physical comedy. And you know, the quick

673
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:50.639
<v Speaker 3>quick pace of this, I mean really lends to it.

674
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:53.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think it's functionally like an hour and

675
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:57.320
<v Speaker 3>twenty five minutes maybe of screen time, which I think

676
00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:01.440
<v Speaker 3>really helps because there is a tendency, particularly in films

677
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:05.000
<v Speaker 3>the last like fifteen to twenty years to hit that

678
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:08.920
<v Speaker 3>like two and a half three hour mark. And look,

679
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:14.079
<v Speaker 3>some films need that, and some films can fill that

680
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:17.639
<v Speaker 3>much space. But I'd much rather have a tight ninety

681
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:20.039
<v Speaker 3>minutes than something that feels like there's forty five minutes

682
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:23.320
<v Speaker 3>of wasted time. You start looking at your watch, and

683
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:27.000
<v Speaker 3>really it's a credit to the writer certainly, but also

684
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:29.639
<v Speaker 3>the cinematography that it just pulls you through the movie,

685
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:34.880
<v Speaker 3>like there's really no moment of quiet in the whole film.

686
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, there is. There's no lull at all, and

687
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:41.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like really the only lull there might be,

688
00:35:41.639 --> 00:35:44.840
<v Speaker 2>of course, is used as a gag from the very beginning,

689
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:48.159
<v Speaker 2>because of course Striker is a taxi driver, and then

690
00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:49.840
<v Speaker 2>he's just like, hey, I'll be right back, and there's

691
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:51.920
<v Speaker 2>a guy inside and he's been letting the rate the

692
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.199
<v Speaker 2>meter run the entire time, and I think that's the

693
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:57.159
<v Speaker 2>only like quiet callback to anything where else. Everything else

694
00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:00.320
<v Speaker 2>is building up to one another, and the time is height.

695
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:03.400
<v Speaker 2>It's used appropriately, they use the budget that they had,

696
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:06.360
<v Speaker 2>and I mean this is really one of the classics

697
00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:08.000
<v Speaker 2>that I think anyone should go to and say, well, like,

698
00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:11.079
<v Speaker 2>what makes a good comedy movie and it's this, And

699
00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:13.320
<v Speaker 2>obviously there's the running gag where it's like, we don't

700
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:15.719
<v Speaker 2>know how to make this anymore in twenty twenty six,

701
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:18.679
<v Speaker 2>and I think that the current state of comedy makes

702
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:20.960
<v Speaker 2>this absolutely true that you could not make this film

703
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:25.880
<v Speaker 2>today even if you tried without making severe you know,

704
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:30.280
<v Speaker 2>either concessions on you know, progressive pieties, or just you'd

705
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:32.920
<v Speaker 2>have to make it completely independent and on your own,

706
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:35.440
<v Speaker 2>because this just couldn't be made by a major studio.

707
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:41.679
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I mean obviously, you know, we've mentioned, you know,

708
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:45.400
<v Speaker 3>the racial context along several lines, but there are a

709
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:48.400
<v Speaker 3>whole bunch of jokes that you probably couldn't make. You know.

710
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:50.920
<v Speaker 3>For instance, one of the ones that got me is,

711
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:53.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, when the stewardess is walking around passing out

712
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:57.639
<v Speaker 3>magazines again we used to be a country, and you know,

713
00:36:57.679 --> 00:36:59.880
<v Speaker 3>the old woman who later hangs herself, asks for some

714
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:03.000
<v Speaker 3>thing light and the stewardess pulls out an incredibly tiny

715
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:08.880
<v Speaker 3>piece of paper titled Jewish professional Athletes. That's pretty funny.

716
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:13.800
<v Speaker 3>There's also the infamous Air Israel cutaway, you know, or

717
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:19.159
<v Speaker 3>it's a it is a plane with sidelocks and traditional

718
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:23.440
<v Speaker 3>Jewish headwear. If that makes you laugh, I pity you.

719
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:27.800
<v Speaker 3>I did not laugh. But honestly, also just the constant

720
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.960
<v Speaker 3>what we would consider kind of like homophobia quote unquote.

721
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Obviously we mentioned, you know, the predatory pilot. But you

722
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:40.880
<v Speaker 3>know there is a background gay character and air traffic

723
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:43.840
<v Speaker 3>control that is just playing the most like over the

724
00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:48.480
<v Speaker 3>top kind of lisping queen. I'm sure you remember it, prude.

725
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I do, and I just my my my wife is

726
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:55.360
<v Speaker 2>much cleaner with her language than I am. But I

727
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:57.280
<v Speaker 2>think when we were in the film, and like towards

728
00:37:57.280 --> 00:37:59.519
<v Speaker 2>the end, when he keeps making all these like gags

729
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:03.440
<v Speaker 2>and reference is clearly playing up the flamboyant homosexual character

730
00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:06.320
<v Speaker 2>and she's just like, can that like insert your favorite

731
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:07.079
<v Speaker 2>f slur here?

732
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:08.159
<v Speaker 1>Like can he just stop?

733
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:10.800
<v Speaker 2>And just that was funnier for me as just someone

734
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:12.960
<v Speaker 2>who's seen this film a dozen times more than anything else.

735
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:16.119
<v Speaker 2>But like, I think it's really the only character besides

736
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:19.800
<v Speaker 2>the obvious peederist pilot where anything like that is played.

737
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:23.239
<v Speaker 2>But you're right, the racial stereotypes and humor gets played up.

738
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:26.639
<v Speaker 2>This is definitely from a different time. And it's of course,

739
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:28.119
<v Speaker 2>like there are cultural things that are in there at

740
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:30.280
<v Speaker 2>the beginning, of course, like you have the where the

741
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:34.480
<v Speaker 2>the what is it like? The church for religious consciousness

742
00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:36.119
<v Speaker 2>and would you like to give a donation? You have

743
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:38.920
<v Speaker 2>the Moonies in there, and then of course a dear

744
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:41.800
<v Speaker 2>reference to our friend Stephen Carson Jews for Jesus or

745
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:42.760
<v Speaker 2>mentioned at the beginning.

746
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:48.400
<v Speaker 3>Well, if I can make a direct statement to missus

747
00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:55.400
<v Speaker 3>the Prudentialist, clearly they cannot stop. They can't.

748
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:58.360
<v Speaker 1>I will tell her this when we're done recording.

749
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:02.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean obviously I noticed that as well. And

750
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:05.559
<v Speaker 3>it's funny, you know, I've been aware of that organization.

751
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:08.039
<v Speaker 3>It is funny that they get kind of a throwaway gag,

752
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:14.760
<v Speaker 3>a throwaway gag in this the uh, the random I

753
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:19.480
<v Speaker 3>guess they're Buddhist monks that just happened to be on

754
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:23.280
<v Speaker 3>the plane are continually funny because they're obviously like notable.

755
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:26.239
<v Speaker 3>You see them a lot, but you constantly see them

756
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:30.320
<v Speaker 3>behaving just the most venial way possible, you know, you know,

757
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:33.840
<v Speaker 3>like scratching and biting, you know, for for kind of

758
00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:38.400
<v Speaker 3>like the good seats as this plane goes down. One

759
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:41.320
<v Speaker 3>of the kind of gags, of course, is the you know,

760
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:44.599
<v Speaker 3>sort of aping the classic moment from you know, kind

761
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:46.400
<v Speaker 3>of like the golden age of cinema or you've seen

762
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:48.480
<v Speaker 3>it in you know, Gone with the Wind Right, the

763
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:51.559
<v Speaker 3>hysterical woman who gets slapped, you know, by the man

764
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:55.920
<v Speaker 3>who tells her to regain herself. And the version in

765
00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:58.719
<v Speaker 3>this one, you know, it starts, you know, in kind

766
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:02.039
<v Speaker 3>of the typical way, and then with each subsequent person

767
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:06.199
<v Speaker 3>saying no, no, let me handle this, just start beating

768
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:10.719
<v Speaker 3>and rattling this woman. And again I realized, laughing at

769
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:14.199
<v Speaker 3>a woman being hit probably says something about me that

770
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:16.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, I may want to examine. But it did

771
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:20.760
<v Speaker 3>get me to laugh. So there's something for that, you know.

772
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I for some reason that one always gets played I

773
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:29.320
<v Speaker 2>think during trailers for the film or for best of clips,

774
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:31.960
<v Speaker 2>and I think that there's just something relatable because I mean, like, again,

775
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:33.840
<v Speaker 2>you are right, this is a callback to sort of

776
00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:37.800
<v Speaker 2>the golden age of cinema, where it's usually like John

777
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Wayne spanking a woman or something like that happening, and

778
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:44.360
<v Speaker 2>it's just played completely straight, like this is just how

779
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:46.360
<v Speaker 2>we took care of things back then. And then of

780
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:50.079
<v Speaker 2>course there's the famous like Sean Connery interview where I

781
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:52.199
<v Speaker 2>think it's been meaned to death about like giving a

782
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:54.639
<v Speaker 2>woman a slap or something like that, Like it just

783
00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:57.599
<v Speaker 2>kind of indicates of what a separate time, and obviously

784
00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.880
<v Speaker 2>people make fun of that even in the milleni writing today,

785
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:02.719
<v Speaker 2>where it's just like, if you're gonna make fun of

786
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:06.079
<v Speaker 2>the nineteen fifties or any time where women obviously were

787
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:10.159
<v Speaker 2>not experiencing the you know, female you know, happiness paradox

788
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:12.280
<v Speaker 2>that they do today, then it's just like, listen, ma'am,

789
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:14.679
<v Speaker 2>you've had a rough night, you know, take take yourself

790
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:17.280
<v Speaker 2>another strong drink to you know, calm your nerves, and

791
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:20.000
<v Speaker 2>go drive you and your small child home. And for them,

792
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:21.639
<v Speaker 2>it's just like, you know, really the only way to

793
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:25.360
<v Speaker 2>contain female hysteria is with physical repression. And it's just like, well,

794
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:27.840
<v Speaker 2>there might be something to do that, but now we're

795
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.480
<v Speaker 2>well past that. Now everyone's just on SSRIs and I

796
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:33.199
<v Speaker 2>think we're worse off. But you're right, Jay, that may

797
00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:35.400
<v Speaker 2>say more about us than it does them.

798
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:39.320
<v Speaker 3>So prude. I know, I said earlier that this is,

799
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:42.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, a comedy movie, you know that may not

800
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:45.159
<v Speaker 3>have cultural insights, But I think you and I are

801
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:47.360
<v Speaker 3>are pulling out the kind of threat of truth in

802
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:51.760
<v Speaker 3>this which is all gay men or pedophiles, and things

803
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:54.199
<v Speaker 3>work better if we hit wimp. Now, these are not

804
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:58.000
<v Speaker 3>my conclusions. These are simply the logical conclusions. The lesson,

805
00:41:58.039 --> 00:41:58.760
<v Speaker 3>if you will.

806
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:01.880
<v Speaker 1>This is a very strauss An interpretation of the film.

807
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.119
<v Speaker 3>Strassian analysis of Airplane.

808
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:11.239
<v Speaker 2>That's how you're gonna title this episode is a Straussian

809
00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:13.440
<v Speaker 2>analysis of nineteen eighties airplane.

810
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:17.239
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's exactly how I will title that.

811
00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:19.280
<v Speaker 1>We're not saying.

812
00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:21.599
<v Speaker 2>This but Sucker abrams and Sucker is saying you should

813
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:22.480
<v Speaker 2>hit women.

814
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:29.320
<v Speaker 3>Some have said scholars scholars disagree on the interpretation. Uh,

815
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:33.239
<v Speaker 3>the obviously one of the other. And a lot of

816
00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:37.280
<v Speaker 3>this is you're sort of making fun of kind of

817
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:42.400
<v Speaker 3>traditional Hollywood motifs. And there's one where, you know, our

818
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:46.119
<v Speaker 3>our heroine, who's I am awful at names, and let's

819
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:49.320
<v Speaker 3>be honest, the names are not particularly important.

820
00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:51.519
<v Speaker 1>In this Ela is her name Elaine?

821
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:56.000
<v Speaker 3>Right, our leading lady h is reminiscing about a you know,

822
00:42:56.039 --> 00:42:58.679
<v Speaker 3>a romantic kind of walk on the beach with the

823
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:02.960
<v Speaker 3>striker her man and they're kissing in the surf, and

824
00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:06.440
<v Speaker 3>of course, right it's there, you know, on a beach,

825
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:10.400
<v Speaker 3>and so the waves are just pounding them like absolutely,

826
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:13.480
<v Speaker 3>like completely submerging them. They're covered in like sand and

827
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:16.199
<v Speaker 3>seaweed while doing this kind of like over the top

828
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:20.679
<v Speaker 3>romantic Hollywood dialogue. And again, because there's never a moment

829
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:23.000
<v Speaker 3>where they you know, address it or kind of like

830
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:25.239
<v Speaker 3>wink at the camera like you know, a haha, we're

831
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:27.960
<v Speaker 3>in on the joke too. It makes it so much better.

832
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:31.599
<v Speaker 3>And I mentioned millennial writing and obviously people have talked

833
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:34.679
<v Speaker 3>about it in dramatic movies though like you know, I

834
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:37.840
<v Speaker 3>can't believe this is happening. Oh that was awkward, kind

835
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:42.079
<v Speaker 3>of you know, tension deflating, but also right it it

836
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:45.280
<v Speaker 3>sort of cheapens the joke in a comedic sense because

837
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:48.960
<v Speaker 3>you're basically it's low time preference comedy. Brute if you

838
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:51.599
<v Speaker 3>see where I'm going with this, where you're taking a

839
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:54.920
<v Speaker 3>cheap early laugh at the expense of the joke actually

840
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:57.599
<v Speaker 3>playing out. And you know that in half a dozen

841
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:01.519
<v Speaker 3>other examples we've already mentioned, like they give the joke

842
00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:05.320
<v Speaker 3>enough time to be funny. Again, it's a fast paced movie,

843
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:07.840
<v Speaker 3>but there's none of that sort of cheapening that you

844
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:11.039
<v Speaker 3>see a lot in kind of modern not even necessarily comedies,

845
00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:15.599
<v Speaker 3>but sort of comedic tone. You see what I'm getting at.

846
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:19.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, we have we there's the fourth wall breaking

847
00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:22.920
<v Speaker 2>concept where there's obvious winks and nods to the audience

848
00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:26.360
<v Speaker 2>or you know, we have to break the tension instantly.

849
00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:28.760
<v Speaker 2>That we have to deprive the character of everything. I

850
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:33.079
<v Speaker 2>think it was real life fake Wizard. He's a YouTuber

851
00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:34.360
<v Speaker 2>who does a lot of like film and sort of

852
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:36.639
<v Speaker 2>like media commentary, and he was talking about the new

853
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:40.480
<v Speaker 2>he Man movie that they couldn't allow Adam to play,

854
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:44.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, the he Man character completely straight, without like

855
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:47.039
<v Speaker 2>taking away the character development, with that sort of millennial

856
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:50.519
<v Speaker 2>Marvel esque writing where it's just like, well, I guess

857
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be he Man, and you know, then they like, well,

858
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:54.599
<v Speaker 2>that's a terrible name, and like they have to play

859
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:57.280
<v Speaker 2>it up that way. And of course the MCU, I

860
00:44:57.280 --> 00:44:59.840
<v Speaker 2>think is the most directly responsible for this, but it's

861
00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:03.199
<v Speaker 2>got everywhere to it's now defined an entire generation of writers,

862
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:05.960
<v Speaker 2>and of course Airplane is from nineteen eighty that obviously

863
00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:08.360
<v Speaker 2>doesn't apply here, which is something that I greatly appreciate

864
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:12.679
<v Speaker 2>where everything is played completely straight, that there is confidence

865
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:15.840
<v Speaker 2>in the gag that you're seeing and even if you

866
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:17.960
<v Speaker 2>don't like that, we know that in thirty seconds there's

867
00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:19.800
<v Speaker 2>going to be a whole new part of the plot

868
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:22.599
<v Speaker 2>where it doesn't really matter because you're probably gonna laugh

869
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:24.559
<v Speaker 2>at this. And it reminds me of like very early

870
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:28.360
<v Speaker 2>what Lauren Michaels said, when Esnel came on to the

871
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:30.639
<v Speaker 2>air had said, you know, we're gonna have like eight skits,

872
00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:34.280
<v Speaker 2>and we hope that two of them are funny and

873
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:36.719
<v Speaker 2>at least, you know, for airplane, I think almost every

874
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:38.760
<v Speaker 2>gag more or less lands. I mean, like the disco

875
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:40.760
<v Speaker 2>thing does go on for a little while, but there

876
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:45.639
<v Speaker 2>isn't anything here that particularly, you know, is overstays. It's

877
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:48.519
<v Speaker 2>welcome and you don't have to be so self referential

878
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:51.440
<v Speaker 2>to tell the audience about it. And even then, like

879
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:53.400
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the film, right like where the

880
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:56.440
<v Speaker 2>the autopilot takes off and he winks at everybody, like,

881
00:45:56.800 --> 00:45:59.239
<v Speaker 2>it's more that he's winking at the characters and he's

882
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:01.039
<v Speaker 2>not winking at me. It's not as a deliberate of

883
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:03.320
<v Speaker 2>a fourth wall break as I think if they were

884
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:05.639
<v Speaker 2>to remake this movie they obviously would. And then of

885
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:09.519
<v Speaker 2>course there's always the wonderful RoadHead reference with the automatic

886
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:11.519
<v Speaker 2>pilot and the and the tube just below the belt

887
00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:14.360
<v Speaker 2>buckle that you have to inflate manually. So thank you

888
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:15.519
<v Speaker 2>Elaine for doing that.

889
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:16.039
<v Speaker 1>Good job.

890
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:19.639
<v Speaker 2>It's a job for a reason, so you know it works.

891
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:21.400
<v Speaker 2>There's to be like Bethesta.

892
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:25.199
<v Speaker 3>It just works well. And if we can take this

893
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:28.159
<v Speaker 3>in a slightly more serious direction, I think it's really interesting.

894
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:31.079
<v Speaker 3>Looking through this, you can tell that the writers and

895
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:35.559
<v Speaker 3>the directors have seen a lot of serious classic cinema, right,

896
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:39.519
<v Speaker 3>They are students of art and culture outside of just

897
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:43.159
<v Speaker 3>their one art for and you mentioned Halo earlier, although

898
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:46.400
<v Speaker 3>you've seen this in kind of every one of the

899
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:49.599
<v Speaker 3>big legacy properties that at the moment where you have

900
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:53.920
<v Speaker 3>people who are Star Wars fans writing Star Wars, or

901
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:56.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, D and D fans writing D and D,

902
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:01.880
<v Speaker 3>paradoxically the quality gets much much worse. That's all they

903
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:07.039
<v Speaker 3>have to pull from for reference. Warhammer is another great

904
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:10.599
<v Speaker 3>example where the guys that created that were interested in history,

905
00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:13.760
<v Speaker 3>interested in fantasy, interested in any number of things, and

906
00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:16.679
<v Speaker 3>they could pull that into their work. Whereas you know,

907
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:19.280
<v Speaker 3>and we'll beat up on millennials because it's fun and easy,

908
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:23.159
<v Speaker 3>but like part of the scourge of millennial writing is this,

909
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:26.840
<v Speaker 3>you get the idea that the person writing isn't particularly

910
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:30.119
<v Speaker 3>intelligent and doesn't have a lot to pull off, right,

911
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:32.800
<v Speaker 3>They're sort of just referencing the thing in and of itself.

912
00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:35.800
<v Speaker 3>And I thought that was interesting because look, like, clearly

913
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:39.400
<v Speaker 3>the writers are intelligent. Look that they're doing a stupid movie.

914
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:41.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's got stupid gags in it, but it

915
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:46.239
<v Speaker 3>speaks to a sort of media diet outside of simply

916
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:49.639
<v Speaker 3>the exact form of art they made. And I think

917
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:51.519
<v Speaker 3>looking back on it from as you said, you know,

918
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:55.360
<v Speaker 3>nearly fifty years later, you can see that decline in quality,

919
00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:56.920
<v Speaker 3>and I think a large part of that has to

920
00:47:56.960 --> 00:47:59.760
<v Speaker 3>do with the sort of like ororo boros nature of culture,

921
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:03.760
<v Speaker 3>culture built on reference to itself. Look, maybe that's too

922
00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:05.480
<v Speaker 3>chin stroking, but I'm curious to get no.

923
00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:07.440
<v Speaker 2>I think there's a real good point to that, Jay,

924
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:09.880
<v Speaker 2>where you know, we have a lot of data and

925
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:11.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot of papers that are being published about how

926
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:14.440
<v Speaker 2>a lot of like large language learning models and a

927
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:19.639
<v Speaker 2>lot of AI research has been poisoning itself with synthetic

928
00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:24.039
<v Speaker 2>data or data generated by AI that's not actually real

929
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:26.119
<v Speaker 2>in sense that it was like an actual published paper

930
00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:29.159
<v Speaker 2>that's being cited, and so you have AI hallucinations, you

931
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:31.639
<v Speaker 2>have a I think there was one case already where

932
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:34.400
<v Speaker 2>a lawyer has been disbarred or put on some sort

933
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:37.440
<v Speaker 2>of disciplinary review by the state bar for writing a

934
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:40.559
<v Speaker 2>brief with AI, and it was just citing phantom cases

935
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:43.599
<v Speaker 2>that do not exist. And so when you were built

936
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:46.000
<v Speaker 2>on a reference culture, you're like an AI or an

937
00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:49.360
<v Speaker 2>LM that's just building its training data off of more

938
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:52.360
<v Speaker 2>synthetic data. So the more referential you get, you the

939
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:55.840
<v Speaker 2>more you lose the formula that made the original good.

940
00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:59.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the thing that made Star Wars so effective

941
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:02.440
<v Speaker 2>is of course the Hero's Journey or The Hero of

942
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:05.440
<v Speaker 2>a Thousand facis by Joseph Campbell, to a point where,

943
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:07.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, Lucas loved the book so much that not

944
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:10.400
<v Speaker 2>only did it become something that he wrote the forward for,

945
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:14.079
<v Speaker 2>but also it became the de facto formula in which

946
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:18.880
<v Speaker 2>all sort of Hollywood blockbuster you know, films and epics

947
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:22.400
<v Speaker 2>were using. And we've basically lost the ability to do

948
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:24.559
<v Speaker 2>that because for a lot of people, you don't have

949
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:28.840
<v Speaker 2>that sort of repertoire to understand other cultures or the

950
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:33.119
<v Speaker 2>writers and references of your day. Like my I don't

951
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:35.599
<v Speaker 2>watch a lot of modern televisions. So for instance, for

952
00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:37.639
<v Speaker 2>a comedy or a feel good thing to put on

953
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:40.920
<v Speaker 2>when I'm eating dinner, I'll watch Cheers.

954
00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:41.320
<v Speaker 1>You know.

955
00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Again, another you know, piece of media from the nineteen eighties,

956
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:50.639
<v Speaker 2>and there are countless references to Shakespeare, Schopenhauer, Heidegger. Like

957
00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:53.079
<v Speaker 2>of course, sometimes they're played for gags, like there's one

958
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:55.199
<v Speaker 2>where Diane says, you know, I spent like three and

959
00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:57.880
<v Speaker 2>a half hours finishing off like kerekad Guard, and you

960
00:49:57.880 --> 00:49:59.880
<v Speaker 2>know Ted Danson's characters like, well, I hope he thanked

961
00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:01.760
<v Speaker 2>you for it, you know, like obviously a sex joke.

962
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:04.320
<v Speaker 2>But the fact that you can like pull off a

963
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:06.559
<v Speaker 2>lot of these like sort of well written references or

964
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:10.400
<v Speaker 2>reference the HMS Pinafore with Kelsey Grammar just as he

965
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:12.800
<v Speaker 2>does in The Simpsons, like that kind of stuff doesn't

966
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:16.599
<v Speaker 2>really happen anymore because the American cultural zeitgeist is either

967
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:20.199
<v Speaker 2>built off references or it's become completely dare I say

968
00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:22.719
<v Speaker 2>one shotted by short form content where you don't have

969
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:27.880
<v Speaker 2>that kind of cultural depth, oh one hundred percent.

970
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:31.760
<v Speaker 3>And it's it's one of those things where look like

971
00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:34.000
<v Speaker 3>we on the right side of things tend to have

972
00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:38.400
<v Speaker 3>a fairly dim view of modern culture, to put it mildly,

973
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:41.800
<v Speaker 3>and so often get get accused of being these sort

974
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:47.480
<v Speaker 3>of you know, dumer esque figures right always predicting disaster.

975
00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:50.159
<v Speaker 3>There's a classical reference there, but it's fallen out of

976
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:55.039
<v Speaker 3>my head, so we'll go with Dumer and uh, yep, no,

977
00:50:55.320 --> 00:50:58.880
<v Speaker 3>definitely not there. But I feel like you can objectively

978
00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:02.280
<v Speaker 3>look at a comedy movie, right, something made for laughs,

979
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:05.000
<v Speaker 3>and say, well, look like, look at the talent in

980
00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:08.320
<v Speaker 3>the room, even that you know, a cheap movie, something

981
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:11.119
<v Speaker 3>that wasn't kind of top line, and see that there

982
00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:13.440
<v Speaker 3>was real human effort. There was a lot of IQ

983
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:17.000
<v Speaker 3>put into this. And then you know, you look at

984
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:19.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, tent pole productions or you know, certainly even

985
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:22.960
<v Speaker 3>academian politics, and you're like, what is this just passed us?

986
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:26.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I know there are reasons why, right, I'm

987
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:31.239
<v Speaker 3>very much familiar with the misallocation problem, but uh, it's

988
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:35.119
<v Speaker 3>particularly stark, even in a kind of you know, lighthearted example.

989
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think that that's just something that doesn't

990
00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:44.920
<v Speaker 2>really get to exist anymore outside of I think smaller

991
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:49.679
<v Speaker 2>budget or independent creators who can build off of older

992
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:53.679
<v Speaker 2>stories or things that in their childhood imagination were seemed

993
00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:55.800
<v Speaker 2>cool and we we don't really get to see that

994
00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:57.880
<v Speaker 2>be made nowadays. And I think that's what's led to

995
00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:00.880
<v Speaker 2>all this discourse. As you mentioned the beginning, where like

996
00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:06.480
<v Speaker 2>smaller budget films with independent, younger creatives really seems to

997
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:09.159
<v Speaker 2>be the way going forward. I mean, you know, he

998
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:11.440
<v Speaker 2>is his own guy. I'm sure you know he has

999
00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:12.960
<v Speaker 2>an agent and everything like that. But I mean, like

1000
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:15.679
<v Speaker 2>markt Plier made a bunch of money doing the Iron

1001
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Lung movie, which of course based off of an indie

1002
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:22.000
<v Speaker 2>video game project, some other guy is doing an animated

1003
00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:25.519
<v Speaker 2>Bloodborne film, and then, of course the two biggest films

1004
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:29.039
<v Speaker 2>in recent weeks has been Obsession in the back rooms

1005
00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:32.119
<v Speaker 2>made by younger gen Z creatives that you know, we're

1006
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:34.719
<v Speaker 2>big on YouTube, making short films and things before getting

1007
00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:37.519
<v Speaker 2>on there. And while those aren't comedies, although you could

1008
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:41.320
<v Speaker 2>certainly play Obsessions straight as a comedy, Like I kind

1009
00:52:41.320 --> 00:52:44.400
<v Speaker 2>of want someone to do a spin or a take

1010
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:47.639
<v Speaker 2>on Obsession where it's played completely straight as a comedy.

1011
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:50.519
<v Speaker 2>And the closest thing we have to that is Mike

1012
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:53.599
<v Speaker 2>Myers's film So I Married an Axe Murderer, which is

1013
00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:56.239
<v Speaker 2>another great comedy film that I think that you should

1014
00:52:56.239 --> 00:52:58.079
<v Speaker 2>definitely have someone on to review.

1015
00:52:58.119 --> 00:52:58.760
<v Speaker 1>It's a good time.

1016
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:03.440
<v Speaker 3>See I've actually I have seen that it's been years. Uh,

1017
00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:10.599
<v Speaker 3>it's okay. There there are two memory for you, Yes,

1018
00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:13.760
<v Speaker 3>yes you did. There are two buyers films. I want

1019
00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:16.079
<v Speaker 3>someone to record an episode with me, so I made

1020
00:53:16.119 --> 00:53:18.599
<v Speaker 3>an Axe Murder. That's one of them. The other one

1021
00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:22.880
<v Speaker 3>is Love Guru, which is such a wretched, wretched film,

1022
00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:26.079
<v Speaker 3>especially uh oddly enough.

1023
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:28.039
<v Speaker 1>Give it comedy.

1024
00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:31.960
<v Speaker 3>No, No, that's the thing that sank Meyer's career, where

1025
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:35.119
<v Speaker 3>he plays like an Indian love Guru trying to get

1026
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Jennifer Lawrence and Justin Timberlake back together. Justin Timberlake is

1027
00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:43.679
<v Speaker 3>the only actually good thing about that movie. You can

1028
00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:46.800
<v Speaker 3>tell he's just having a blast, and he's charismatic enough

1029
00:53:46.840 --> 00:53:51.480
<v Speaker 3>that you enjoy him. But that movie is genuinely wretched.

1030
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:53.400
<v Speaker 3>It might be one of the worst things I've ever seen,

1031
00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:57.039
<v Speaker 3>and I wish to inflict it upon people. Other people

1032
00:53:57.079 --> 00:54:00.360
<v Speaker 3>need to suffer what I have suffered. Are honestly pretty

1033
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:03.079
<v Speaker 3>close to the motivations of the pilot in this movie, right,

1034
00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:05.000
<v Speaker 3>someone who went through trauma at an early age and

1035
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:07.440
<v Speaker 3>wants to kind of externalize that by forcing other people through.

1036
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Of course, uh, and honestly I would.

1037
00:54:10.519 --> 00:54:11.840
<v Speaker 3>I would basically.

1038
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Want someone to watch a Love in a in a

1039
00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Turkish prison.

1040
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, I do. The experience is roughly it's roughly analogous,

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<v Speaker 3>to be honest, But the other one is I married

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<v Speaker 3>ANX Murder, which is kind of a fun film. Well, Matt,

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<v Speaker 3>we are are fast approaching time. This has been a

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<v Speaker 3>ton of fun. I appreciate both making time to talk

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<v Speaker 3>with me, and honestly also the recommendation. I can't believe

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<v Speaker 3>I hadn't seen it, and I'm glad that I did.

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<v Speaker 3>But uh, where can people find your work? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Jay, thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that the advice I gave you all those

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, you know, worked out for you. It's amazing

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<v Speaker 2>to see where you are now all these years later.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of those things where it's like, well, he

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<v Speaker 2>can help others, but he cannot help himself.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>You can find my work on YouTube and sub stack.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm most known by many people as the Prudentialists. You

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<v Speaker 2>can find me on Twitter at mister Prudentialists or just

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<v Speaker 2>find look up Matthew Williams on Twitter and I'll be there.

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<v Speaker 2>I am the host or co host of the programs

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<v Speaker 2>Do You Even Read? And The Digital Archipelago, trying to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that you know we're the only pro literacy

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<v Speaker 2>podcast and the Side of things so we can continue

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<v Speaker 2>to read and review books so you don't have to.

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<v Speaker 2>But as always, you know, Jay, just thanks for having

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<v Speaker 2>me on. This was a lot of fun and I

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<v Speaker 2>hope that you do get the chance to inflict the

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<v Speaker 2>Love Guru on someone that you know you truly enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>talking to.

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<v Speaker 3>And everyone at home, keep your head up like it

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<v Speaker 3>last forever. Good Night,
