Speaker 1: Take my advice. You have to be very careful if
Speaker 1: you call out to one of the debt all of
Speaker 1: them can hear you.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Phantom Friday. This is case number eight
Speaker 2: and I will be joined by my family to discuss
Speaker 2: our personal experiences while investigating the Madison seminary. The entire
Speaker 2: investigation is available on Patreon only, so if you would
Speaker 2: like to watch our family investigation and the video for
Speaker 2: this episode, please go click the link in the description
Speaker 2: of this episode and head on over to Room two
Speaker 2: three seven on Patreon without further ado. Let's get right
Speaker 2: into the episode. I'm actually drinking double oaked Woodford Reserve.
Speaker 3: Some Woodford Reserve. That's a that's a good whiskey. That's
Speaker 3: a good choice.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Aren't you bartender these days?
Speaker 3: I'm not, no, but I will be here in two months.
Speaker 2: Have you begun your training?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I know I have not. No, I haven't bought any
Speaker 3: any of the necessary things to train to be a bartender.
Speaker 3: But I'm sure one of them is.
Speaker 2: A nipple piercing So every good bartender, how so.
Speaker 3: Both are just one at least one. There's a piercing
Speaker 3: parlor two seconds away from my house.
Speaker 2: So yeah, just take a couple of shots before you go.
Speaker 2: Just grin and bear it.
Speaker 3: Well, every time I get anything pierced there, they're always like, well,
Speaker 3: have you drank in the past twenty four hours?
Speaker 2: That's when you lie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, of course, yeah.
Speaker 2: Grape soda and water.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: Yes, Thanks so much for joining me tonight, though, Evan,
Speaker 2: my favorite little cousin.
Speaker 3: Of course, I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 2: Because we recently investigated a place together. And before I
Speaker 2: tell you any of the backstory about it, because we
Speaker 2: both went and I really didn't know a lot about
Speaker 2: the place.
Speaker 3: Neither did I.
Speaker 2: I knew almost nothing. But my friend Tiffany that was
Speaker 2: with a you knew a lot about it, and she
Speaker 2: had told me about it before. But I was like, eh,
Speaker 2: you know, in one he or out the other because
Speaker 2: it wasn't pertinent to my life at the time. But
Speaker 2: it before I say anything, what was your initial did
Speaker 2: you when you walked in? Did you think it was
Speaker 2: going to be stupid?
Speaker 3: I walked in and go this place is definitely riddled
Speaker 3: with asbestos and this is definitely make you sick if
Speaker 3: you're too long. That was my initial reaction. I'm you know,
Speaker 3: I'm such a skeptic. I'm just like my father. I
Speaker 3: don't believe in ghostly apparitions or anything like that, and
Speaker 3: so I went in there with But I did go
Speaker 3: in there with an open mind. I did. So, are
Speaker 3: you sure I yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2: And for those who don't know, Evan is Brian Jason
Speaker 2: from the Cleveland Schwill podcasts Flesh and Blood.
Speaker 3: That's my dad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just as skeptical and just as much wants to
Speaker 2: fight me on literally everything.
Speaker 3: It's true I do, so you didn't.
Speaker 2: I was afraid when I planned my trip that it
Speaker 2: was gonna be like bad weather the entire trip, because
Speaker 2: it was supposed to be like thunderstorms and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: The day that I got there, it was just misty.
Speaker 3: The whole day was like a misty like a Silent
Speaker 3: Hill video game. If any of your your listeners are
Speaker 3: are hip, yeah, well it was. You could see the
Speaker 3: water particles in the air with the flashlight.
Speaker 2: It was, but it never like actually rained. It just
Speaker 2: stined like that all day, like misty and foggy. The
Speaker 2: weather definitely showed up for our investigation. So pulling up
Speaker 2: to that place, in the back of my mind, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's going down. It's already a misty, foggy, creepy be night,
Speaker 2: and this place may or may not have enough asbestos
Speaker 2: to make me hallucinate a little bit. So I think
Speaker 2: we're gonna have fun. That was my initial thought. But
Speaker 2: they didn't let your sister in, and they didn't let
Speaker 2: our little cousin.
Speaker 3: And no, they were not allowed in.
Speaker 2: And tell the listeners, why oh why is there an
Speaker 2: age limit on this place?
Speaker 3: Because two weeks a week, two three weeks prior, a
Speaker 3: twelve year old was escorted out of the place. Wait,
Speaker 3: waite was the Was the twelve year old hospitalized? Is
Speaker 3: that what they told her?
Speaker 2: It was, Yeah, they got taken out by an ambulance.
Speaker 3: An ambulance, I couldn't remember.
Speaker 2: She never said what if she had an asthma attack
Speaker 2: or if she fell tripped on something, or if she
Speaker 2: got scared to death? Like they didn't say. All they
Speaker 2: said is like this is for adults. That and it
Speaker 2: gave me the creeps because if it wasn't haunted quote unquote,
Speaker 2: why wouldn't they just like if it was just for show,
Speaker 2: like a Halloween fun house or something, they would let
Speaker 2: little kids go in there.
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, of course, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: So that was my first thing. I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: adults only no kids allowed up in this bitch. But
Speaker 2: they did order as pizza at one point they did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were walking which is pretty cool. Yeah, they
Speaker 3: were walking through. They're being like, hey, pizza's downstairs, and
Speaker 3: you go down there and it's fourteen Domino's pizza. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she have some pizza.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder what we put in it.
Speaker 5: I didn't eat any of the pizza, but they like
Speaker 5: it was cute because like when you walk into like
Speaker 5: the part where you pay for tickets and stuff, they
Speaker 5: had a cure setup where you could like make hot
Speaker 5: chocolate and stuff, and.
Speaker 2: Then they ordered us pizza. But you could rent equipment
Speaker 2: from them, like you could rent a spirit box and
Speaker 2: dowsing rods and like EVP recorders and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: But by the time we got smart enough to like
Speaker 2: want to go rent some shit, it was all everybody
Speaker 2: had gotten.
Speaker 3: Every everybody had, Like there wasn't that many people there.
Speaker 3: There was a decent amount, but it wasn't too too many.
Speaker 3: But yet everybody had something. Everybody had something.
Speaker 2: Now there were people doing investigations while we were there
Speaker 2: and doing like serious investigations, like turn this flashlight on
Speaker 2: and off and blah blah blah. But I didn't hear
Speaker 2: her say it, but she told you or something that
Speaker 2: there was a room where they saw like a little
Speaker 2: goblin person in the room, or like like it was
Speaker 2: a room. When we first we went into the basement first,
Speaker 2: and we were all goofing off, and she told us
Speaker 2: to stop goofing off because people take this really seriously.
Speaker 2: Then we went upstairs and you were like, yeah, she
Speaker 2: said she saw like a four foot tall creature or
Speaker 2: something in this room.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what she had saw is somebody who had like
Speaker 3: bent down or bent backwards on all fours and crawled
Speaker 3: like a four foot creature. Uh, something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was. It was something like that that freaked me
Speaker 3: out a little bit.
Speaker 2: But the point of this investigation. When we went into
Speaker 2: that room, it was still daylight. It was yes, so
Speaker 2: less creepy. But there was a room downstairs where both
Speaker 2: of us because and I have the whole video you're
Speaker 2: gonna have, I'll email it to you the investigation, like
Speaker 2: the main star in the video.
Speaker 3: You recorded everything I did.
Speaker 2: But my brother was like, hey, come in this room
Speaker 2: I feel weird in here? Do you feel anything? And
Speaker 2: I walked in. I immediately felt like dizzy almost, and like.
Speaker 3: I know exactly because I walked right behind you, and
Speaker 3: uh and I'm Dave. I walked right behind you guys,
Speaker 3: and I immediately the best way I can put it
Speaker 3: is like like I woke up hungover. Mm hmm, yeah,
Speaker 3: I woke up and I'm like, oh, I'm like my
Speaker 3: head is pounding. I'm like, I got a steaming headache
Speaker 3: from this very strange. But then you walk out of
Speaker 3: the room and you felt fine. It was very It
Speaker 3: was weird. It was very weird.
Speaker 2: Was that your first red flag?
Speaker 3: No, My first red flag was five ten minutes later
Speaker 3: when those two ladies that claimed that they were gypsies
Speaker 3: and I was making fun of them, being like, oh,
Speaker 3: like the Fleetwood Max song.
Speaker 6: And.
Speaker 3: I started to ask them questions and that those what
Speaker 3: were what are do you know what those are called?
Speaker 2: Called dowsing rods?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, And then it answered all of our questions.
Speaker 3: And then we gave him to like Maddie, and they
Speaker 3: wouldn't move at all that.
Speaker 2: Kim.
Speaker 3: They didn't move out all when Kim either.
Speaker 2: And then that one dude that was with him that
Speaker 2: was like super hype about everything everything. He held him
Speaker 2: and they freaking went sideways on him.
Speaker 3: They went respond Yeah, they were like, yes they did.
Speaker 2: They didn't respond at all either, but we So that
Speaker 2: was your first red flag. You were like, Okay, there's
Speaker 2: something really here because it was like intelligently answering questions.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that was my first red flag. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Did you get creep vibes while she was asking it?
Speaker 3: Questions like she was a creep or just creepy field.
Speaker 2: No, like creepy, like this is weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, after busting their chops about the Flea Wood Mac stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I did feel really uncomfortable just because I was also
Speaker 3: asking questions about my grandparents. It was like a guardian
Speaker 3: angel type of questions.
Speaker 2: And they said your grandpa, yes, yes, it is your
Speaker 2: guardian angel, that's what it said. And your dad said
Speaker 2: good luck.
Speaker 3: Yes, my dad said, yep, good luck.
Speaker 2: Are you a full blown skeptic now that you've been
Speaker 2: to this place and don't say what we experienced.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll leave that for later, but I will say no,
Speaker 3: I am not. I am not a skeptic anymore. No,
Speaker 3: no way, no way, no way, no way.
Speaker 2: I wish you would have had your phone out because
Speaker 2: what I learned going back and making the whole video,
Speaker 2: the whole investigation, and obviously I took some parts out
Speaker 2: where like people were just walking around and talking and
Speaker 2: nothing was happening, but like non stop us kind of
Speaker 2: picking up on stuff. It's for twenty seven minutes long.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not shocked. We were there for quite quite
Speaker 3: some time. We were there for hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were there for hours. And what I didn't
Speaker 2: know because we were all laughing and talking and stuff
Speaker 2: until it got really dark outside and we started freaking out.
Speaker 2: I was catching stuff on my phone and I didn't
Speaker 2: even realize it because I just had my phone kind
Speaker 2: of half like halphazardly going through there and I wasn't
Speaker 2: looking at my phone.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: And then when I went back and actually watched all
Speaker 2: the videos, I was hearing stuff and seeing stuff in
Speaker 2: the videos that I didn't hear or see with my
Speaker 2: naked eyes.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it was weird.
Speaker 2: It was yeah, like there was a feeling in there,
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, that you could sense. But when
Speaker 2: I went back and watched the videos, there was a
Speaker 2: video where I wandered off by myself and went into
Speaker 2: a room by myself, and I could hear you, because
Speaker 2: of course who couldn't hear you. And you were like
Speaker 2: way down at the other end of the hallway with
Speaker 2: everybody else, and you were all talking about some kind
Speaker 2: of fucking shoes you found. And I was by myself
Speaker 2: in this room, and right behind me, you just hear
Speaker 2: like a man's voice, and it's like, ah, I don't
Speaker 2: remember hearing it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's strange, but I don't doubt it. Though
Speaker 3: I don't doubt it.
Speaker 2: Oh, I have to email you the whole thing. I'm
Speaker 2: kind of glad you haven't watched it yet, so you're
Speaker 2: just going by memory.
Speaker 3: Yes, I but I remember. I mean I have like
Speaker 3: an elephant's brain. I remember everything, so I remember.
Speaker 2: But some of the most memorable things I remember is
Speaker 2: like my brother said he saw a mist or like
Speaker 2: captured a mist in one of their lives.
Speaker 3: I saw the video, Yeah he did.
Speaker 2: And he and it was just like floating mist. Then
Speaker 2: we went to go try to find where the myst
Speaker 2: was and there was this whole pair normal investigator group
Speaker 2: trying to get it to turn their flashlight on and off.
Speaker 3: It didn't just try. They did. They did multiple times,
Speaker 3: and I was I was Maddie. Maddie saw that once.
Speaker 3: It goes Maddie for context as my little sister Madeline,
Speaker 3: and she booked it out of that that room, and
Speaker 3: I'm just sitting there and awe, like this this came.
Speaker 3: I'm like, how you know, I've never seen something like
Speaker 3: that before. Second red flag.
Speaker 2: By the way, that was your second red flag.
Speaker 3: O big yeah, because it was just me and you
Speaker 3: in that room for a little bit watching that happen.
Speaker 2: Then you were like, can't they turn my flashlight on it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I said that because there's me being Scott. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, right, But I.
Speaker 2: Only I only got one of them on video, because
Speaker 2: you know, when you're watching it happen, you're like all
Speaker 2: in the moment and you're like, oh my god, it's
Speaker 2: turning the flashlight on and off. But then you're not
Speaker 2: thinking like, oh, I don't have my fucking phone out,
Speaker 2: or I would like think I was taking a video
Speaker 2: and I was just taking a lot picture.
Speaker 3: You took a live photo, yeah, And I went.
Speaker 2: Back and I was like, damn it. It was a
Speaker 2: fucking bature. But I think during the daylight time. It
Speaker 2: was not as creepy to me because I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: well it's still daytime.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still daytime, and you didn't need any flashlights.
Speaker 2: Even though we still had them on. We were just
Speaker 2: pointing them att.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. Yeah.
Speaker 2: We walked outside, we took a little air break, we
Speaker 2: took some family pictures together, and then this is when
Speaker 2: it started to get kind of like dusky, and we
Speaker 2: went to the second floor. I don't know what the fuck,
Speaker 2: but it's almost like when you went from the ground
Speaker 2: level and you walk up the stairs and you get
Speaker 2: to the second floor, it's like the vibe completely changed.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: It was like heavier on the second floor.
Speaker 3: By like you mean like the feeling yeah, yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: big time.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What do you remember after we hit the top of
Speaker 2: the stairs and we were like, let's just go me,
Speaker 2: you and our cousin Brittany.
Speaker 3: I was to say, that's when split up everything too.
Speaker 3: It was it was like it was straight out of
Speaker 3: Scooby Doo. I was like, what kind of because we did.
Speaker 2: We were like, let's split up, and like some people
Speaker 2: went to the attic and some people went back downstairs,
Speaker 2: and then it was just us three on the and
Speaker 2: you know what, there wasn't a lot of people on
Speaker 2: the second floor when we were there.
Speaker 3: We see, the thing is when me and Britt were
Speaker 3: up there, there was nobody else with us. There was
Speaker 3: no nobody else, nobody.
Speaker 2: And you we were in like an office area or something.
Speaker 2: It looked like a warden's office or something.
Speaker 3: It looked like it like I got sent to the deans. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm serious.
Speaker 2: And then we like out and we investigate that room
Speaker 2: or whatever. I think I asked somebody to take a
Speaker 2: picture of me. And then we hit the corner and
Speaker 2: you're like, why are all these scratches on all the doors?
Speaker 2: Because there was legit like claw marks.
Speaker 3: Law marks on door and it was not just this floor,
Speaker 3: it was an almost every single room there was claw marks.
Speaker 3: It freaked me out so bad. And because I just
Speaker 3: picked up on that when we went in the second floor,
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, this place is old, it's falling down,
Speaker 3: but no, this is intentional. Underneath all the door handles
Speaker 3: are big, old just gouge marks.
Speaker 2: And the paint is actually like peeled off, like oh.
Speaker 3: It's wood, which would it's just wood?
Speaker 2: Yeah, We round the corner and you're like, oh, these
Speaker 2: scratch marks on the doors. This is so, this is
Speaker 2: so creepy, blah blah blah. And we're at the precipice
Speaker 2: about to head into this blue room. That's the only
Speaker 2: thing I can remember about it is like the walls
Speaker 2: were blue, yep, And it was silent, and none of
Speaker 2: us were walking. We were all standing still, and what
Speaker 2: do you hear?
Speaker 3: Right next to my ear? It was like dunt dunt dunk,
Speaker 3: right next to my ear.
Speaker 2: I looked at Brittany and I was like, did you
Speaker 2: hear that? And then I looked at you and we
Speaker 2: all went and started running for our lives.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Not no time to react either, because I was immediately
Speaker 3: gonna be like, were you guys just knocking the message?
Speaker 3: And then you guys? Are you guys are all the
Speaker 3: way up there. I'm like, I'm not gonna eat and
Speaker 3: get away from you.
Speaker 2: And you know how I know we were alone up
Speaker 2: there is because we screamed so loud. Somebody from the
Speaker 2: whole other wing of the building came running down the
Speaker 2: hallway and they were like, what happened? What happened? Where
Speaker 2: where were you at? And we were like, down there,
Speaker 2: there's someone knocking on the wall, but they were all
Speaker 2: the way clear on the other in the other wing,
Speaker 2: like you know, it's kind of like weird shaped like this.
Speaker 3: They were like it was kind of shaped like double l.
Speaker 2: Yes, there was like a long corridor in the middle
Speaker 2: and then like two wings that broke off. Yes, And
Speaker 2: we were, let's say, on the left wing, and they
Speaker 2: were on the right wing, like way down the hallway
Speaker 2: because they ran to us. And then I was like
Speaker 2: the blue room, like there's something knocking. And one of
Speaker 2: the girls in their group said, oh, when we hit
Speaker 2: the top of the stairs up here, they wanted to
Speaker 2: go in that blue room. And I started freaking out
Speaker 2: and crying and I said I wouldn't go in there.
Speaker 2: She just got a feeling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, I do remember that conversation. Yes, I have
Speaker 3: it all on video. It's a it was a big.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, guess what what My brother just texted me.
Speaker 2: He said he might jump on let me see. Let
Speaker 2: me call him. Actually that be easier because he he
Speaker 2: freaking abandoned us halfway.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Then Rachel just they wentn't got a tarot card reading?
Speaker 2: What you're doing.
Speaker 4: Smoking weed?
Speaker 2: What I'm on a I'm on a podcast with Evan
Speaker 2: talking about our experience at the seminary. You want to
Speaker 2: join us?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You guys? Do you guys?
Speaker 3: Mind?
Speaker 2: No? Hell no, that's the best thing of all.
Speaker 3: Well, here we go at the seminary.
Speaker 4: Here we go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just sent you. I just texted you the link.
Speaker 2: Evan is super cool.
Speaker 3: What's happening, Uncle Dave?
Speaker 4: Nothing man? What's up? Where are you at? And where
Speaker 4: are you at an Oliria?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm any town.
Speaker 4: Yeah, jagged, I'm the only one that got footage of smoke.
Speaker 2: We just talked about that.
Speaker 4: You count everyone. Everyone can shut up. I'm the master
Speaker 4: of the ghost sunning. Now, I'm the only one that
Speaker 4: came I'm the only one that came out with real
Speaker 4: physical proof.
Speaker 3: Hey, that's that's debatable now, Uncle Dave, because me, Brett
Speaker 3: and Julia.
Speaker 4: Oh, you guys got the knock. You guys did get
Speaker 4: a good knock. And if you guys hear, if you
Speaker 4: hear Crispin crunching and stuff like that, it's a Panda
Speaker 4: Express spring roll. I'm gonna be eat.
Speaker 7: So brother.
Speaker 2: While we're waiting for Rachel to jump on, what was
Speaker 2: your initial Uh? I don't know, like your initial when
Speaker 2: you pulled up, because we were just talking. The weather
Speaker 2: really showed up on that day. It was like misty
Speaker 2: and cloudy and it was perfect silent hill weather.
Speaker 4: It was Yes, what was.
Speaker 2: Your initial take on like you were pulling up, did
Speaker 2: you say, like, this place has got to be haunted
Speaker 2: or you're like, oh, they're making it an attraction so
Speaker 2: they can get money from this place.
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's funny because like there are places
Speaker 4: that get certain reputations for some reason, and like this
Speaker 4: one really does have that reputation for some reason. Like
Speaker 4: there's a lot of people in the whole United States
Speaker 4: think that it's very haunted, and like, so there has
Speaker 4: to be something behind it, because not every haunted place
Speaker 4: gets that sort of reputation. And so I think it's
Speaker 4: cool to go through it because it is one of
Speaker 4: it's considered to be one of the most haunted places
Speaker 4: in the United States. So that's cool from the rip
Speaker 4: And maybe that has something to do with it, because
Speaker 4: like you go there with the expectation that this place
Speaker 4: is hot it but I'll say this, it was very creepy, right,
Speaker 4: And they they do the thing that they do, which
Speaker 4: is they put creepy stuff in the room to try
Speaker 4: to creep you.
Speaker 3: I was just about to say that, man, it's a
Speaker 3: mix of balls.
Speaker 4: But but here's the thing. Nothing they can put in
Speaker 4: that room. So here's okay. So here's what I'll say.
Speaker 4: They put little creepy stuff in all the rooms, but
Speaker 4: only certain rooms feel a certain way in there.
Speaker 2: I just said that that was That was exactly what
Speaker 2: I said. The room downstairs that Rachel initially went into,
Speaker 2: and I was across the hallway and you said, hey,
Speaker 2: come in here and just tell me how you feel.
Speaker 2: And I felt sick in that room. And then Evan
Speaker 2: said he felt like he had a hangover when.
Speaker 3: He felt like, yeah, it didn't. Yeah.
Speaker 8: So and really the first one was when when Rachel
Speaker 8: walked in the one room and like I was right
Speaker 8: behind her, and I got the same sort of sensation
Speaker 8: that she got.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I went in there with your friend Tiffany, and
Speaker 9: like it.
Speaker 2: Was and you got something different though you said maybe
Speaker 2: like a headache or something.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like, I do get really bad headaches. I'm very
Speaker 7: sensitive to pressure changes as well. So I went in
Speaker 7: there and then my head just had like a splitting
Speaker 7: headache on my left side. And I felt nauseous and
Speaker 7: the room was really cold, like your your friend commented
Speaker 7: on how cold it was, and then we walked out,
Speaker 7: went into another room, talking about how it was creepy,
Speaker 7: and all of a sudden, I realized I wasn't feeling
Speaker 7: like that anymore. So then that's when I grabbed David
Speaker 7: and sold.
Speaker 9: Him to go in there.
Speaker 7: And he said he felt weird too, And then I think, so,
Speaker 7: did you say you felt dizzy as well?
Speaker 9: I did?
Speaker 2: I felt when I walked in, I kind of felt
Speaker 2: like like my head was spinning a little bit, and
Speaker 2: then my stomach kind of felt sick. And then I think, Evan,
Speaker 2: you walked in next two the sick room.
Speaker 3: What room?
Speaker 2: Was it the sick room? When you walked Did you
Speaker 2: walk in right after me?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yes, yes, I did, yes.
Speaker 2: And he said he felt like he had a like
Speaker 2: a hangover.
Speaker 4: H well, that's headache, Yeah, that's what it was.
Speaker 6: For me.
Speaker 4: It was almost like a like a nauseous like sort
Speaker 4: of lightheadedness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was light headed, yeah, And.
Speaker 4: And then like, uh, but the funny thing to me
Speaker 4: was is that we walked out of there, and like
Speaker 4: she said, you all of a sudden realized you didn't
Speaker 4: feel that way anymore. And then we went back in
Speaker 4: that room later and it didn't feel like that.
Speaker 9: It wasn't cold anymore. It was tray, it wasn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't cold, and it was like it felt
Speaker 4: like a completely normal room for whatever reason. So it's
Speaker 4: all so it's almost like certain rooms at certain moments
Speaker 4: just have certain weird feelings to them, and maybe that's
Speaker 4: the knocking thing, you know what I mean, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: We were talking about how we kind of all went
Speaker 2: outside to take a break because Evan was concerned about asbestos,
Speaker 2: and so we all went outside to take a break
Speaker 2: and we took some family pics together and when we
Speaker 2: went back in evenue, you said it best, it was
Speaker 2: like a Scooby Doo split up we It was literally everywhere.
Speaker 3: It was the strangest thing. Everybody was like, let's split up.
Speaker 4: Gang, and everyone just went to different places.
Speaker 3: Everybody did.
Speaker 7: I was by myself a lot of it, and I
Speaker 7: did it because I felt like if something weird was
Speaker 7: going to happen, I feel like it would have happened more.
Speaker 9: Likely if I was alone alone.
Speaker 7: Yeah, But nothing other than that really stinky room that was.
Speaker 9: That was the only weird thing other than the headache.
Speaker 9: The room was that it was in the attic.
Speaker 7: It was painted dark blue, and it smelled like something.
Speaker 7: It smelled like death, like, it smelled like like a
Speaker 7: dead animal was in there.
Speaker 4: It smelled like something died in there. That it was
Speaker 4: one of the last It was one of the asked
Speaker 4: like places that I went in there where I truly
Speaker 4: felt weird. It was the room, Julia, if you remember,
Speaker 4: they said the one of the workers said that that
Speaker 4: was the most that was the most haunted room in
Speaker 4: the place. They said that the room.
Speaker 7: Well, I guess the beds used to be nailed to
Speaker 7: the floor, so she was showing me like the holes
Speaker 7: in the.
Speaker 9: Floor from all that.
Speaker 7: And I guess the way that it smells has smelled
Speaker 7: like that for a while, because like if a mouse
Speaker 7: died in like under the floorboards, yeah, it would be
Speaker 7: stinky for a bit, but it wouldn't be like that
Speaker 7: for the years.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, it's also not even necessarily the smell of death,
Speaker 4: but almost, like you said, the bed was nailed to
Speaker 4: the floor and stuff, it's like it's almost the smell
Speaker 4: of like excrement that like someone just being left in
Speaker 4: their own excrement for long periods of time. It's like
Speaker 4: it just smell. It just smelled disgusting.
Speaker 9: It smelled like something was decomposing.
Speaker 4: To me, it really did.
Speaker 7: It really smelled like like when my cats catch something.
Speaker 2: And now they called that the rape room. And I
Speaker 2: know when Madeline and JJ and Kim went up there,
Speaker 2: they said that they got like a tingling sensation in
Speaker 2: their face and then their jaws felt really tight.
Speaker 3: Locked my hand to described it like a lock.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they got like lock jaw or something in
Speaker 2: that room.
Speaker 7: I did have like pressure in my head. But again
Speaker 7: I tend not to notice that too often because I'm
Speaker 7: very sensitive to different changes.
Speaker 9: But I do remember that and it just smelling.
Speaker 2: So after we all broke up, that's kind of when
Speaker 2: Brittany and Evan and I heard the knocks on the
Speaker 2: walls and then Evan about sharded himself.
Speaker 3: I did, yeah, I like that. I farted it, Yes,
Speaker 3: it did. And I go and that big group of
Speaker 3: people that were about to turn that corner. I said, uh,
Speaker 3: it might stink.
Speaker 2: Evan farted and then we ran down the hall. But
Speaker 2: on the other end of the hall. You remember when
Speaker 2: we were down there and we heard like a her.
Speaker 3: Like that we're talking about like metal grinding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and then you were like, Brittany. Brittany said,
Speaker 2: there's nobody down there, and you were like, there's five
Speaker 2: people in that room. And she was like, no, I
Speaker 2: saw him leave. And we walked down there and literally
Speaker 2: we were by ourselfs And but while all this was
Speaker 2: going on, my brother and Rachel went to go get
Speaker 2: a tarot reading.
Speaker 4: That's true, that's true. Hey, and I will, I will,
Speaker 4: I will get into that. But you know what, I
Speaker 4: do want to just say one thing, Julie, and this
Speaker 4: is more like between me and you, because we went
Speaker 4: and did the other thing. But oh wait, Evan did too. Evan,
Speaker 4: you went and did Franklin Castle. You weren't Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: you weren't with us that. I just want to I
Speaker 4: just want to point this out to anyone who cares,
Speaker 4: Like the way we did the Madison Seminary, that's the
Speaker 4: way to tour. That's the way to tour an old
Speaker 4: haunted place. Don't don't do a tour, don't do a
Speaker 4: guided tour that that like, dude, these places should all
Speaker 4: offer close you in, give you flashlight, walk around for
Speaker 4: three hours come out. But we don't need the weird
Speaker 4: stories that you have, you know what I mean. It's like,
Speaker 4: we just don't because in the end, that's not what's
Speaker 4: gonna get you. What's gonna get you is the room
Speaker 4: that smells like death, and the room that and the
Speaker 4: room that's thirty degrees colder than any other room in
Speaker 4: the house. For some weird like you're gonna pick up
Speaker 4: on that stuff. You don't need the drunk guy walking
Speaker 4: around the house telling you how scary it is.
Speaker 3: Died here in eighteen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the thing. So like you get what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Julie, this is the this is the way.
Speaker 4: So I would say, definitely, what I'm learning is if
Speaker 4: you're going to go through a scary, haunted place, do
Speaker 4: just do it yourself at your own pace, however you
Speaker 4: want to do it.
Speaker 2: And you know what I think is different too about
Speaker 2: the Franklin Castle, which we did an episode on in
Speaker 2: this place, is if it's really haunted, let it speak
Speaker 2: for itself, yes, and just investigate it. Because honestly, I
Speaker 2: didn't need to know anything about that place. When I left,
Speaker 2: I was like, there's some fucking shit going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, don't tell us that a pink chair that
Speaker 4: clearly is not original to the house has all these
Speaker 4: hidden mysteries and secrets in the house. Like clearly you
Speaker 4: picked that up at the thrift store and brought that
Speaker 4: into the house and now you're telling stupid So like,
Speaker 4: now you've thrown us up. Now we don't even like it,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And that's the point. You
Speaker 4: want to go in and have these experiences for yourself.
Speaker 4: So good, like, good ups to the Madison Seminary for
Speaker 4: letting you just go and have an experience with it.
Speaker 4: You know, they got a little mad at us for
Speaker 4: being scared.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they said to hush up. They were like, you
Speaker 2: can't be clowning around.
Speaker 4: Yeah, apparently were the people talking in the theater.
Speaker 3: Very much.
Speaker 2: But you know, I think Rachel has got like a
Speaker 2: little bit of a sensitivity and so and then it
Speaker 2: was weird because you brought it up after we went
Speaker 2: to go get lunch together. But I saw you kind
Speaker 2: of wandering around and stuff, and then you went in
Speaker 2: the room that made you feel sick, and then I
Speaker 2: felt sick in there. But so when you first got
Speaker 2: there versus when you left, do you feel like there's
Speaker 2: something in there, and if so, would you say it's
Speaker 2: like a negative thing or just maybe unrested spirits.
Speaker 9: There was definitely some sort of energy there, but.
Speaker 7: I didn't feel like anything like there was a group
Speaker 7: of people that were saying that, like though the evil
Speaker 7: spirits were upstairs, Like I didn't feel anything dark or
Speaker 7: ominous or scary, which I just felt changes in the energy,
Speaker 7: but nothing felt scary to me. Like I have had
Speaker 7: experiences where for no reason like.
Speaker 9: It, you know, you almost feel like you have like
Speaker 9: a panic.
Speaker 7: Attack or something like that because something feels so scary
Speaker 7: because the energy is like that. But it wasn't like
Speaker 7: that at all. But I do think for sure that
Speaker 7: there's something.
Speaker 9: There's something in there or multiple different like or just
Speaker 9: like what do.
Speaker 2: They call it, like residual, Like whatever has happened in
Speaker 2: there has made like an imprint in there.
Speaker 4: But well, Julie, that's why I say, I always say that,
Speaker 4: that's where I always go to. That to me is
Speaker 4: the thing that I think there's the most proof of
Speaker 4: is that there's some kind of an energy imprint on
Speaker 4: these places because just trauma has happened there or something's
Speaker 4: happened there people have been emotional there, people have been
Speaker 4: passionate about.
Speaker 7: Something then and Harry Potter like magic leaves traces, so
Speaker 7: like the force.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, it is the force. I'll tell you the
Speaker 2: difference between touring the Franklin Castle, which you should take
Speaker 2: Rachel just for the shits and giggles.
Speaker 4: Oh, she would love it. It's a great it's a
Speaker 4: great place. Like That's why I always say people should
Speaker 4: go see it. They sort of ruin it for you
Speaker 4: by trying to give you this crazy, weird thing when
Speaker 4: really it would be crazy and weird on its own
Speaker 4: in all the best ways if they just leave you
Speaker 4: alone and let you look at it, let your let
Speaker 4: your brain do the you know, tour.
Speaker 2: For you, and you know what's crazy too is I'll
Speaker 2: tell the difference. I didn't feel shishkabob when we toured
Speaker 2: the Franklin Castle. Like there were moments when he would
Speaker 2: be telling a story where I'd feel creeped out, like
Speaker 2: the guy that broke in and burnt it to the ground,
Speaker 2: And then you kind of wonder, like, why would he
Speaker 2: break back into this place and burn it to the
Speaker 2: ground unless he experienced something or whatever, right exactly, psych
Speaker 2: that was kind of creepy, but just walking around it,
Speaker 2: he was making me so infuriated that I couldn't even like,
Speaker 2: if there was a vibe in there, I didn't pick
Speaker 2: up on it because.
Speaker 4: I was just so again, he's ruining it.
Speaker 3: He's ruining the vibe.
Speaker 4: There's so many things you would be naturally picking up
Speaker 4: on if you didn't have some drunk guy telling you
Speaker 4: what to pick up on, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's like they're so terrified you're gonna leave and say
Speaker 4: I didn't feel anything, that they won't give you a
Speaker 4: chance to feel something. Mm hmm, you know, and it's
Speaker 4: like you just have to be left alone, like I'm
Speaker 4: so sure a ghost wants to attack you while you've
Speaker 4: got some you know, h On and Franz working out
Speaker 4: behind you. You know what I mean, It's like makes
Speaker 4: makes no sense. Like myself, it felt.
Speaker 2: Like a haunted family sleep over a little bit, because
Speaker 2: at one point we were wandering the halls in the
Speaker 2: dark with our flashlights and the lady comes up to
Speaker 2: us and goes, we got dominoes.
Speaker 4: We got you know what? You know what, there's something
Speaker 4: kind of endearing about that because it is it is,
Speaker 4: It is sort of like a high school sleepover sort
Speaker 4: of deal, you know what I mean, where it's like
Speaker 4: somebody just pops up and like hot coup girl in
Speaker 4: the red.
Speaker 2: Room, they did.
Speaker 8: Lights, the.
Speaker 3: Cards and something else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was reiki healing. She walked around and she
Speaker 2: was like, we got Pamela here. She's good. She's doing
Speaker 2: the terror.
Speaker 3: She came to me and said and said they were
Speaker 3: doing raking. I go, okay, so what's raking? And she goes,
Speaker 3: hang on, hang on one moment and then she just
Speaker 3: walked away and never came back. I was like, what
Speaker 3: is raki? You know?
Speaker 2: And like clear, you're not ready for sage?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, mm hmmm.
Speaker 7: It's like crystals, like they just yeah yeah, hands above.
Speaker 3: Like touch my forehead with the crystal.
Speaker 4: At one At one point, I took all my clothes
Speaker 4: off and asked to be saged.
Speaker 2: Wait, no, you did not.
Speaker 4: And that's when the cops came and it got.
Speaker 3: Weir and he got yep. He was arrested.
Speaker 4: And now, of course I'm not allowed to go within
Speaker 4: fifteen hundred feet of the property.
Speaker 2: And so do you guys want to tell us a
Speaker 2: little bit about your tarot experience at the Madison seminarre.
Speaker 7: So I will say what we both asked about was
Speaker 7: we decided not to ask anything personal because I was
Speaker 7: kind of afraid, so we both asked about our jobs.
Speaker 7: It was very enlightening and very insightful, but there were
Speaker 7: some personal things.
Speaker 9: In there that I feel like I can't share.
Speaker 7: But what I will say is that she absolutely just
Speaker 7: hit the nail on the head with everything, everything about
Speaker 7: like the culture of where my job is and what
Speaker 7: I do too, things that have happened recently to like
Speaker 7: my future. And it was literally nail on the head.
Speaker 9: It was kind of cool. It was crazy.
Speaker 2: Did she pick up on that you're a musician? Brother?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You know what's funny about it was like I and
Speaker 4: I went into this a one hundred percent skeptic, I
Speaker 4: mean as skeptical as you can possibly be about tarot cards,
Speaker 4: like I like to me, I was just always thought
Speaker 4: that was just a carnival.
Speaker 9: Trick any background.
Speaker 4: But because of that, She's right, I really did make
Speaker 4: it a point. I didn't even speak ask you can
Speaker 4: ask Rachel. I sat down in the chair and I
Speaker 4: didn't say a word, and literally the first time she
Speaker 4: spoke to me, I just sat there and I let
Speaker 4: them talk, and she was just like, oh, you guys
Speaker 4: want to reading. And I was just like, you know,
Speaker 4: I was cordial. I wasn't like just sitting there staring
Speaker 4: at her, but like I just didn't say anything about
Speaker 4: myself or try to show my personality or anything. I
Speaker 4: just sat in the chair. And at one point when
Speaker 4: she finally started doling my cards out, she gets like
Speaker 4: one card in and the very first card is death card.
Speaker 6: And she was like oh, and she's like wow, and
Speaker 6: and she's like and she's like, just so you know,
Speaker 6: that doesn't mean death always.
Speaker 4: Oh, it doesn't always mean death.
Speaker 7: Oh thank you, thanks into a story about yeah, one
Speaker 7: time this person.
Speaker 4: And person actually did die, but it's very rare, that's
Speaker 4: what she said. And I'm like, so, okay, here we
Speaker 4: go off and run. But still I didn't even react.
Speaker 4: I just sat there. I just looked at it, like
Speaker 4: I didn't even crack a smile. And then she goes,
Speaker 4: and then she she goes, really, what it means is change,
Speaker 4: like great change, and obviously you know I'm going through
Speaker 4: on real change in my life right now, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. So I was kind of like, okay,
Speaker 4: all right, But then she goes further and further in
Speaker 4: and she deals out about like another six or seven cards,
Speaker 4: and she literally just stops and she goes, Okay, he goes.
Speaker 4: She goes, you you can't be as calm as you act.
Speaker 4: She goes, you have to do something really weird in
Speaker 4: your life. She goes, I'm guessing you own your own business.
Speaker 4: And then and then she goes, she goes, you're an artist, right,
Speaker 4: and and and like so I mean, she just absolutely
Speaker 4: like nailed it, like like right in there. And and
Speaker 4: even then I wouldn't give it to her. I just
Speaker 4: I wouldn't react. I just didn't say anything. I just
Speaker 4: kind of looked at her and and looked over at
Speaker 4: Rachel and looked back, and I was like, keep going,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And and honestly, there was
Speaker 4: there was. There was really no aspect of what she
Speaker 4: brought up that didn't kind of hit right on. Now.
Speaker 4: So either this middle aged woman from Geneva, Ohio, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, is just an unbelievable ton artist,
Speaker 4: or there's or there's kind of something to it.
Speaker 2: Oh, there's just kind of something well, no, you.
Speaker 4: Get what I mean. That's like like I'm saying, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, there's definitely something too. I think that the reason
Speaker 2: she does Tara readings there is because that place is
Speaker 2: so chock full of energy too.
Speaker 4: Maybe that maybe maybe that helps, Like you're so you're
Speaker 4: already sort of tuned in with like kind of those
Speaker 4: yeah things.
Speaker 7: She also said that she liked that room because it
Speaker 7: was a safe place, and it's a safe room there,
Speaker 7: and it was really nice vibes in there.
Speaker 9: She had like cute little lights and like it was Yeah.
Speaker 4: She kept it really dark. But I guess the bottom
Speaker 4: line is, even as a skeptic, I came out of
Speaker 4: there being like all right, like she nailed it. Whatever
Speaker 4: it was, whether she fooled me or not, she got
Speaker 4: me that.
Speaker 2: So Evan said when he first got there that he
Speaker 2: was a total skeptic, and then we heard the knocks
Speaker 2: and like some other stuff, and now he's what kind
Speaker 2: of a believer? Where are you? Evan?
Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, I'm I'm a believer now that
Speaker 3: just that the knocking really was the straw that broke
Speaker 3: the camel's back, just because I know it wasn't either
Speaker 3: of you because your hands are down the hair like this,
Speaker 3: and you were behind.
Speaker 2: Me and we weren't walking or anything. It wasn't like
Speaker 2: we walked and there was.
Speaker 3: Like it rather than a.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what it's like.
Speaker 3: It was right by my ear. It was right next
Speaker 3: to my ear like it was one.
Speaker 2: Of those moments that instantly activates your colon.
Speaker 3: Well, no, go ahead, So I was gonna say really quick.
Speaker 3: Me and my mom and my stepfather all had watched
Speaker 3: it was like a ghost Hunter series. We have the
Speaker 3: live or whatever, and we watched an episode on Madison
Speaker 3: Seminary and one of the big one of the biggest
Speaker 3: experiences that people have there is the knocking really in
Speaker 3: the in the chair, in the chair creaking, and that's
Speaker 3: what I think that metal grinding was Julie when we
Speaker 3: heard that with that, I think that was one of
Speaker 3: the wheelchairs going because there were guys.
Speaker 4: Two for two with the big with the big things
Speaker 4: you can have there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that was the main those are the
Speaker 3: main things that people experienced there.
Speaker 2: Well, I interviewed a lady before so I I picked
Speaker 2: her out because I heard that she had a big
Speaker 2: foot story and she was from Ohio and I wanted
Speaker 2: to talk to her about that, and I didn't really
Speaker 2: know much else about her. I just set up the
Speaker 2: interview and then we got to talking and I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm from Ohio to and I think it's so cool
Speaker 2: that you've seen big Foot blah blah blah, and she goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: but you know, one of the craziest experiences I've ever
Speaker 2: had is that this place. It's in Madison, Ohio. It's
Speaker 2: called the Madison Seminary, and this lady is crazy. Like
Speaker 2: she goes in there by herself with her group, not
Speaker 2: like what we did with a flashlight tour. They like
Speaker 2: rent the whole thing out for the night and going
Speaker 2: there alone, and she puts herself in a hypnotic state.
Speaker 2: She puts white no noise earphones on and then she
Speaker 2: has like a spirit box and she can't hear anything
Speaker 2: else that's going on in the room, and like her
Speaker 2: group will ask questions quietly and she'll just blurt out
Speaker 2: whatever answer she hears through her headphones. And she said
Speaker 2: that while she was there, they were doing it and
Speaker 2: the answers were starting to get really creepy and really crazy,
Speaker 2: and she felt like she was just getting choked out
Speaker 2: and friggin was throwing up and all kinds of stuff,
Speaker 2: and they had to take her out of there, which
Speaker 2: is crazy because when we got there, they said no
Speaker 2: children allowed because the last time we let kids come
Speaker 2: in here they had to get taken off in an
Speaker 2: ambulance or something like that.
Speaker 3: The greatness of it, I feel like, if you something,
Speaker 3: you're probably gonna find something.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, And I want to have the little kids
Speaker 4: in there in case something really does jump out. So
Speaker 4: I could throw the little kids in front of me
Speaker 4: and then I have it, and then I have a
Speaker 4: better chance of making it to the car, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, get and getting the hell up out
Speaker 4: of there.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pretty sure I'm bigger than Evan, so
Speaker 2: I could have legitimately tossed his frail body in front
Speaker 2: of him.
Speaker 4: Well, and speaking of Evan as a side note, at
Speaker 4: this angle, doesn't he look a little bit like the
Speaker 4: ginger kid from Children.
Speaker 2: Of the Corn.
Speaker 4: He's like Outlander, he behind the rose.
Speaker 5: I thought you were gonna say the ginger kid from
Speaker 5: a Christmas story.
Speaker 2: I was gonna to say, not Scott Ficus.
Speaker 4: No, no, not focus.
Speaker 9: See the one with the yellow eyes, God.
Speaker 4: Damn it they were yellow. But no, man, I will
Speaker 4: say that place was That place has a thing to it. Now,
Speaker 4: I get it. I get why people feel that way.
Speaker 4: Here's what I would say. I would like to go
Speaker 4: in there seriously with nobody else, like like five people
Speaker 4: that I want in there, and like spend the whole
Speaker 4: night by yourself.
Speaker 2: If you could make it the whole night by yourself,
Speaker 2: I feel like I'd be too scared. Honestly, I'd be
Speaker 2: too scared.
Speaker 3: You don't think you could do in the episode and
Speaker 3: Rachel would get sick.
Speaker 4: What episode? Oh someone did that? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that I was telling uh, just telling you guys
Speaker 3: about that's what they did. They spent the night there.
Speaker 4: Yeah. See, I think that would be cool. I would
Speaker 4: be interested to see what it happened if you were
Speaker 4: in there with nobody else and every noise you're hearing
Speaker 4: is just you. There's no one else in there, there's
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, and like what that
Speaker 4: would feel like. I I would be curious as to
Speaker 4: see how that would go. Same with the Franklin Castle,
Speaker 4: I'd be I'd want to do the same thing. Everybody
Speaker 4: get out.
Speaker 2: I didn't feel an iota in the Franklin Castle.
Speaker 3: But we didn't have a chance.
Speaker 4: We didn't have a chance to it would be better
Speaker 4: if the Dons was fucking up our ass the whole time.
Speaker 3: I feel like if the if the guy that tour
Speaker 3: host was like it sounds to me like this guy
Speaker 3: had no personality, and I think the problem too much
Speaker 3: person too much, no kidding, because there is such a
Speaker 3: thing that they had a better guy in there.
Speaker 4: Maybe the people, the people that work at the Haunted
Speaker 4: Mansion at Disney would be like, dude, chill out, take
Speaker 4: take it down a notch. Dude, take it down.
Speaker 2: And he was so extra, he was giving like circus
Speaker 2: performer like it. It's kind of great. But at the
Speaker 2: same time, you guys don't really know any of the
Speaker 2: history of the Madison Seminary. And I found some stuff.
Speaker 2: I found an article. I was just gonna tell you
Speaker 2: some stuff that I found out that might make sense
Speaker 2: for like the activity that's going on there. And I
Speaker 2: do know there's also a massive graveyard right behind the
Speaker 2: parking lot, that back parking lot of the Madison Seminary,
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of unmarked graves in that cemetery
Speaker 2: from what this place used to be over time things
Speaker 2: Now do you know, do you know when it like
Speaker 2: if you had to put an age on this, would
Speaker 2: you say nineteen hundreds or older?
Speaker 9: Older? I would at least.
Speaker 4: I'd say older too.
Speaker 2: I think eighteen forty seven.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes sense. See I would have said like
Speaker 4: eighteen nineties or eighteen eighties. But that's wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 4: Eighteen forties is very freaking old.
Speaker 2: Yes. And so it was a high school. It makes
Speaker 2: a Madison high school in eighteen forty seven, I can
Speaker 2: see that. Then they turned it into a college because
Speaker 2: it was so small, and the town started growing, so
Speaker 2: it wasn't big enough to be a high school anymore.
Speaker 2: So they turned it into a college. And then when
Speaker 2: the Civil War broke out, they used it like if
Speaker 2: your husband died in the Civil War and you were
Speaker 2: a widow and you had children and you had nowhere
Speaker 2: else to go and no income and no one to
Speaker 2: care for you, they would take you into the Madison
Speaker 2: Seminary and care for you, and you would just grow
Speaker 2: old and die there and they would bury you in
Speaker 2: the backyard, and they would just take care of multiple
Speaker 2: different widows, like the whole place was full of widows
Speaker 2: and widowed families.
Speaker 4: Wow, maybe that's why it doesn't necessary, Like you feel
Speaker 4: those trapped energies there, but it doesn't necessarily feel evil
Speaker 4: to me that much. The only place that kind of
Speaker 4: felt a little evil to me was the stinky room.
Speaker 4: That was the place where I was kind of like yucky.
Speaker 4: And then like we said that room where we felt sick,
Speaker 4: it just felt like there was just some sort of
Speaker 4: a presence there. Well.
Speaker 2: It's interesting though, because after they were done like housing
Speaker 2: the widows in everything, they turned it into a reformatory
Speaker 2: where like the worst of the worst inmates.
Speaker 4: When oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Because they were like, we'll put them in a small,
Speaker 2: controlled group and we'll try to reform them quote unquote.
Speaker 2: So it was like this widow like, think of all
Speaker 2: the sadness and shit during the Civil War. First off,
Speaker 2: your husband's gotten blown to bits, and here you are
Speaker 2: with six kids and you have no income and nowhere
Speaker 2: to go, and you're stuck living in this place. Then
Speaker 2: they kick you out in some in this article it
Speaker 2: said some of the women they kicked out when Ohio
Speaker 2: Correctional whatever took over. Some of the women were like
Speaker 2: seventy eighty years old, had nowhere to go. They were
Speaker 2: just tossed out onto this street because Ohio Correctional whatever
Speaker 2: bought Madison Seminary and turned it into a reformatory for
Speaker 2: these like corrupted inmates or whatever.
Speaker 4: That's kind of I had no idea about that, by
Speaker 4: the way.
Speaker 2: Right, it was an orphanage at one point, and so
Speaker 2: it just like all this stuff, all these layers add
Speaker 2: up to why like sometimes you go in a room
Speaker 2: and you feel peaceful, and then sometimes you go in
Speaker 2: a room and you feel sick as fuck. And then
Speaker 2: sometimes you go in a room and you're like, what
Speaker 2: the fuck happened in here? It smells like dead body
Speaker 2: pussy and my jaws clink.
Speaker 4: Plan. Yes, yeah, they turned it.
Speaker 2: They turned it into something called Opportunity Village, and they
Speaker 2: took in a bunch of tuberculoses people, uh huh, and
Speaker 2: it was like we'll open up all the doors and
Speaker 2: windows and we'll bring the fresh air in here and
Speaker 2: we'll you know, So it was this It was called
Speaker 2: Opportunity Village, but really it was just a tuberculosis hospital.
Speaker 4: Dude, What do I always tell you when say the
Speaker 4: word tuberculosis and now you know, there's like that you've
Speaker 4: opened up a whole new can of worms, Because that's
Speaker 4: just death at all ages, death at all ages at
Speaker 4: all times, and tons of it just just where they
Speaker 4: stack them in piles, run them out on fucking trail cars.
Speaker 4: Rail cars.
Speaker 9: Wasn't as bad as the plague though, right.
Speaker 4: Oh it was crazy, but that's just well, no, but
Speaker 4: what they what.
Speaker 9: They used to do, was they the majority of Europe, Yes.
Speaker 4: But no. But the tuberculosis was they used to stick
Speaker 4: them all in the same place. And that's why you
Speaker 4: have these places where it was like thousands of dead
Speaker 4: in one place, because they used to all stick them
Speaker 4: in one and everybody wanted to be away from them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they thought that they could cure it by
Speaker 2: cracking your ribs open and cutting pieces of your lungs out.
Speaker 9: So there are a lot of people died from infection.
Speaker 2: They did, a lot of people did die from infection.
Speaker 2: And there was actually a lady, her name was Elizabeth Styles.
Speaker 2: She was murdered in the Madison Seminary. And uh, there
Speaker 2: was crazy person that broke in while it was abandoned
Speaker 2: in between it being a tuberculosis hospital and then figuring
Speaker 2: out what they were gonna do with it next, it
Speaker 2: was abandoned for a while and a crazy guy broke
Speaker 2: in there and he was like there's spirits in here,
Speaker 2: there's this, there's that kind of like the Franklin Castle
Speaker 2: and he burnt it to a crisp. And that's why
Speaker 2: when you look at the ceilings in parts of the
Speaker 2: Madison Seminary, all the paint is peeled in and it's
Speaker 2: got like a sooty, weird smell in there, and it's
Speaker 2: all like if you run your finger across a door,
Speaker 2: you can feel like all these little bumps in the paint.
Speaker 2: It almost looks, remember everything, like what's all over the door?
Speaker 2: The paint bubbled up during the fire. That's what that was.
Speaker 4: Scratch marks.
Speaker 2: No, that that was actually like scratch marks and stuff.
Speaker 2: But remember you were like, what's all over the door?
Speaker 2: It looked like the door was.
Speaker 3: Wet, Yes, okay.
Speaker 2: And then I went up to it and I rubbed it,
Speaker 2: and I was like, could it be condensation? And it wasn't.
Speaker 2: It's like bubbles in the paint, like bubbly. That was
Speaker 2: from the massive fire that broke out there. And like
Speaker 2: I said, there's this graveyard where they would just dump
Speaker 2: tuberculosis patients that died, and widows of the Civil War
Speaker 2: that died, and these inmates that died in there in
Speaker 2: the reformatory. They dumped them out there. There was orphans
Speaker 2: that died there, they dumped them out there. And if
Speaker 2: you go a lot of the tombstones apparently just say
Speaker 2: like widow, no name, no proper burial. And so there
Speaker 2: could be some like a combination of things like unrested
Speaker 2: souls and like traumatized souls, and like maybe it is
Speaker 2: residual and they just hang out there, or maybe it's
Speaker 2: like you said, and so much weird stuff has happened
Speaker 2: there that we just pick up on little things here
Speaker 2: and there literally.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 4: It's just lots and lots of history. And again I
Speaker 4: keep coming back in my mind too, like the more
Speaker 4: events and traumas and different things that happen in a
Speaker 4: confined space like that, the more it just builds up.
Speaker 4: And that's why, you know, we talk about other than
Speaker 4: like you know, when you get into like poultergeists and
Speaker 4: things like that, generally newer places don't get haunted like that,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And it's because they don't, right,
Speaker 4: and that's why. But they consider those to be different
Speaker 4: kinds of hauntings. They those are those are poultergeists or
Speaker 4: possessions or things like that where it's like, you know,
Speaker 4: but like I always make the joke, why why don't
Speaker 4: you ever run into a ghost that died in two
Speaker 4: thousand and you know eight, and was the guy that
Speaker 4: used to sell you your twisted tea? You know what
Speaker 4: I mean? At the at the at the circle k.
Speaker 4: It's never, It's always it's a colonial soldier with a.
Speaker 9: Musket because he looks modern. Yeah, like someone looking like
Speaker 9: colonial soldier walking around your yard.
Speaker 4: It might be just as scared. I would be just
Speaker 4: as scared of the guy that sells me twisted tea
Speaker 4: if I saw him in my bathroom while I was
Speaker 4: taking a ship, as I would a colonial soldier.
Speaker 2: But you just if you saw a guy in a
Speaker 2: beanie walking through your free you know what would be
Speaker 2: really scary is if he had those horrible what were
Speaker 2: they called, those pants that were just tree trunks Janko
Speaker 2: Jean Janko jeans walking through your front yard.
Speaker 4: You know, why don't why don't we ever, why don't
Speaker 4: we ever bump into a bunch of alternative heroin addicts
Speaker 4: that died in ninety five? You know what I mean?
Speaker 7: It's like you've probably passed them on the Street, they're like,
Speaker 7: oh man, and look at those you just think.
Speaker 4: They're still hanging out. They're like, wow, man, he's got
Speaker 4: a super vintage sound Garden T shirt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: They did go so I watched Ghost Adventures all the time,
Speaker 2: and they went to the Viper Room you.
Speaker 4: Know where Oh yeah, yeah right, and all.
Speaker 2: The stories around the Viper Room, and they did pick
Speaker 2: up on some really cool stuff while they were there.
Speaker 2: But I mean, if you saw something while people go
Speaker 2: there and have experiences and stuff, and they've said that
Speaker 2: they've seen River and he's not a colonial freaking musket
Speaker 2: having soldier, But.
Speaker 4: Throw something? Can I throw something out there?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 4: Rooms where things happen like a lot, Because here's another
Speaker 4: weird thing. Like my band played at Public Hall one time,
Speaker 4: a few times actually, and we've gotten to be up
Speaker 4: in the old dressing rooms, and I tell people the
Speaker 4: story all the time where they up in Public Hall.
Speaker 4: The Beatles played there, the Doors played there, Led Zeppelin
Speaker 4: played there, the Rolling Stones played there, Joe Cocker played.
Speaker 4: I mean, they're like, it's all everyone. They all played there,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And there's only one main
Speaker 4: dressing room where all the bands like hung out before
Speaker 4: the you know what I mean, And we got put
Speaker 4: up in that dressing room one time. And when you
Speaker 4: walk up, it's an old building, so there's always a
Speaker 4: big stairway leading down, and there's all these empty floors
Speaker 4: and there's all this stuff before you get to the
Speaker 4: main areas where you play. And the point I'm getting
Speaker 4: at is, I don't feel like that place is haunted.
Speaker 4: But like when you're in a place that has been
Speaker 4: there that long and that many big things have happened,
Speaker 4: do you feel you don't like to be alone. It's
Speaker 4: almost like you just feel that like there's just still
Speaker 4: things there, you know what I mean, And it's like
Speaker 4: not even necessarily haunted. It doesn't feel scary in that way.
Speaker 4: It's just like you just feel the presence of the
Speaker 4: other things. Yes, so do you if that makes sense perfect?
Speaker 2: Do you guys believe that you can get an attachment
Speaker 2: from going to places like the Madison Seminary? Yeah, Rachel, Yes,
Speaker 2: And I agree with Rachel.
Speaker 9: It depends on I think your.
Speaker 7: Probably susceptibility, your acceptance and get your experience in general.
Speaker 7: But I think how how open to attach yourself to
Speaker 7: it are too?
Speaker 9: How open am I to it?
Speaker 4: No, I'm saying I think that has a lot to
Speaker 4: do with it. It's like how open you are to
Speaker 4: a thing like that, probably if something can attach itself
Speaker 4: to you that way.
Speaker 2: Wait, so did any of you guys have experiences after
Speaker 2: you came back home or like did you have the
Speaker 2: ache on you or anything.
Speaker 3: Such a so closed minded with the dead bolt that
Speaker 3: it's just nope.
Speaker 7: I have weird stuff that happens at my house anyway,
Speaker 7: So if it did, I wouldn't you wouldn't talk it
Speaker 7: up to that.
Speaker 4: Rachel herself is paranormal. But no, you know, we've also
Speaker 4: been really busy. Like we we immediately like left town
Speaker 4: and we were at the Abbey Road thing and like
Speaker 4: we just we literally just got back.
Speaker 7: So that alarm went off when we were gone at
Speaker 7: like one thirty in the morning for no reason.
Speaker 4: Actually, okay, we were in Jeffersonville, Indiana, and Olivia called
Speaker 4: I don't know, she was staying here alone and she
Speaker 4: called at one thirty in the morning, just freaking out
Speaker 4: and she's like, Dad, no smoke. Alarms going off and
Speaker 4: there's no smoke and it won't stop and I can't ah, Like,
Speaker 4: do you know how scary that is. That's horrified, And
Speaker 4: I know what that would feel like if it was me,
Speaker 4: whether it was a ghost or not, I'd just be
Speaker 4: terrified because in my mind, it's like, it doesn't have
Speaker 4: to be a ghost. It could be the serial killer
Speaker 4: who's playing a drig on me and getting me to
Speaker 4: come to this room so we can cut my balls off.
Speaker 4: Richard Ramirez, Yes, like I'm falling right into his trap.
Speaker 4: So yeah, but that was a weird thing because that
Speaker 4: has never happened since I've been here, and it hasn't
Speaker 4: happened since.
Speaker 2: May I suggest a theory. Yes, Madison Seminary did catch
Speaker 2: on fire in a blaze.
Speaker 4: All right, you got me, You got me, And that's
Speaker 4: why you're the host of the podcast right there, right there,
Speaker 4: That's why you are Cosmic Peach.
Speaker 2: Watch Tonight, I'm gonna get a text message from Evan
Speaker 2: and he's gonna be in his bathroom taking his ship
Speaker 2: in the freaking smoke alarms gonna go off in his
Speaker 2: whole apartment.
Speaker 4: And then and then then they realize it's just carbon monoxide.
Speaker 4: That's real, that's real seeping from his ass.
Speaker 2: Do you guys have any other memorable moments there before
Speaker 2: I ask for our traditional rating of Madison Seminary.
Speaker 4: I don't really, I mean, I just think I would
Speaker 4: say just overall, it's a fun experience and if you're
Speaker 4: nearby and you're into that kind of stuff, you should
Speaker 4: go and look at it. It's fun. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Rachel did find also a death photo while we were there,
Speaker 2: and I forgot about that super crazy creepy.
Speaker 3: Backstory, Rachel.
Speaker 7: So I don't even know what that photo was or
Speaker 7: who it was, but it was definitely a death photo.
Speaker 7: So like back in the day, because taking family pictures
Speaker 7: and stuff really wasn't that common. So a lot of
Speaker 7: times when people would die, they would take pictures of
Speaker 7: them and they would just set them up and still
Speaker 7: and their eyes would be open, and that one the
Speaker 7: eyes were just blazed over, like almost white.
Speaker 9: It was really creepy, and they.
Speaker 2: Were really wide open too, like they like his lids open. Yeah, photo,
Speaker 2: I didn't do that, Yeah I have.
Speaker 3: I don't want to look into that, but I'm going to.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was very common with children especially, that's.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because there wouldn't be so exactly yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, in honor of the episode, because brother, I've
Speaker 2: already asked you this, and I've already asked Brian and
Speaker 2: everybody else who's ever come on my show. But going
Speaker 2: back into cosmic Peach history, this is you have to
Speaker 2: answer the question. Because you guys are first timers. Rachel,
Speaker 2: I'll let you go first. What is your favorite scary movie?
Speaker 9: Oh, sinister eoo, that's a good one.
Speaker 7: The only one that I can like watch that. I'm
Speaker 7: I'm still uncomfortable at the end. I don't like scary
Speaker 7: movies that are like resolved and you're like, oh cool,
Speaker 7: the family is happy again.
Speaker 9: I like what you feeling like, creeped out cliffhangers. Yeah,
Speaker 9: can you get me?
Speaker 2: My brother said his favorite scary movie is or maybe
Speaker 2: he's already told.
Speaker 9: You, uh, Scream.
Speaker 10: I think.
Speaker 7: Scream.
Speaker 2: Okay, you passed the test. You can marry my brother.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Obvious.
Speaker 10: I'm a nineties kid, Evan, so don't I love I
Speaker 10: love good slashers like Scream and and you know, Chucky,
Speaker 10: you name it.
Speaker 3: I love all that stuff, right, the thirteenth night Mare
Speaker 3: on ELM Street, I love them. They're great, They're classics.
Speaker 3: But I have to say, and for any viewers who
Speaker 3: aren't hip, invest your time into this series, but it's
Speaker 3: the VHS series. It's the first movie that I thought
Speaker 3: of that that I was so scared. I used to
Speaker 3: I know, I didn't always have like a cell phone,
Speaker 3: but my dad used to have a home phone. And
Speaker 3: this movie the VHS series, the first one that came out,
Speaker 3: what was it twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, maybe ye me
Speaker 3: so fucking bad. I call my mom and I'm like, Mom,
Speaker 3: just stay on the phone with me.
Speaker 4: Until I stay on the phone.
Speaker 3: I was so scared. In the freakiest because it's either
Speaker 3: VHS one or VHS two. I don't know why they
Speaker 3: are scary.
Speaker 4: By the way, those are very good.
Speaker 3: They're so freaky. So the first one, either the third
Speaker 3: or fourth tape, it's this this chick. They're all at
Speaker 3: a bar, and I don't want to spoil it, but
Speaker 3: I'm gonna spoil it just a little bit. It's only
Speaker 3: one tape in the VHS UH one movie and the
Speaker 3: lady is you know they she goes home with this dude,
Speaker 3: another dude and his girlfriend and they're all at like
Speaker 3: a motel and then she like she goes into the
Speaker 3: bathroom and you see her like morph she like breaks
Speaker 3: into wings from her shoulders and like her mouth is
Speaker 3: gnarly sharp teeth, and I was like, and you just see,
Speaker 3: like the camera she's like shaking the guy. She's eating him.
Speaker 3: It freaking out so bad. And then the last, the
Speaker 3: last little the last couple of frames, she has like
Speaker 3: demon claws for feet. She picks him up like a
Speaker 3: hawk and she used her and then the camera drops
Speaker 3: and goes and it just just.
Speaker 4: Is so good.
Speaker 3: Please any viewers who aren't hip, please please please invest
Speaker 3: your time into that series, because it is fantastic.
Speaker 4: I do want to go watch him again now, though,
Speaker 4: because I remember when I watched. I haven't watched them
Speaker 4: for a long time, but I do remember thinking these
Speaker 4: are like very good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a good old fashioned scary movie night. Yes, I'm
Speaker 2: kind of into the weird ones recently, like skin a
Speaker 2: Merink and No.
Speaker 4: I thought, dude, Julie, Julie, let me tell you a
Speaker 4: good one. Let me tell you a good one. I won.
Speaker 4: Me and Rachel have watched recently, I'm telling you, and
Speaker 4: I watched they Won before, but I didn't know it
Speaker 4: was like a series. But X, and I think me
Speaker 4: and you talked about this before the movie X where
Speaker 4: they go it's like a it's a throwback to like
Speaker 4: the Texas Chainsaw Massacre type movies. And there's this character
Speaker 4: in it that is like sort of an ongoing character,
Speaker 4: but it's played by the same girl. But there's like
Speaker 4: an older version named Pearl. There's a right, so you've
Speaker 4: seen Pearl.
Speaker 3: Right, yes, yes, oh yeah.
Speaker 4: And then this one is called X. And then there's
Speaker 4: a new one coming out in July called Maxine and
Speaker 4: it's gonna and I'm like super stoked about it, but like,
Speaker 4: that's a cool one July. I bet you like it.
Speaker 4: You should watch X tonight, all right, all right, like
Speaker 4: Slash and.
Speaker 3: Go watch Laurel, then go watch Eld And it takes
Speaker 3: place in like nineteen seventy eight, so it's.
Speaker 4: Just it takes place in Texas.
Speaker 2: It does that is, if it takes place in Texas,
Speaker 2: I'm down. Well, you know one of the first horror
Speaker 2: movies that I really got obsessed with that I think
Speaker 2: you watch too, brother is it follows and the soundtrack.
Speaker 2: I love anything that's like vintage horror kind of you know,
Speaker 2: it's like you don't even know what decade you're in
Speaker 2: when you start.
Speaker 4: I don't care. I don't care what anyone says it
Speaker 4: follows as a masterpiece.
Speaker 2: And since we're talking about paranormally transmitted sexual diseases, let's
Speaker 2: rank the Madison Seminary.
Speaker 4: Normally transsexually transmitted.
Speaker 3: I was saying, did I get lost in the conversation?
Speaker 4: Hang on, what's going on?
Speaker 2: Have you never watched it follows?
Speaker 3: No, that's your homework, that's your.
Speaker 4: That was the That was the worst ghost rape since
Speaker 4: Evil Dead where the girl got raped by the wood.
Speaker 3: Tree with the strangling tree.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the worst rape of all. Imagine being raped
Speaker 4: by nature.
Speaker 3: Got no thanks, I'm okay you.
Speaker 2: Have you ever spent a summer in Oklahoma?
Speaker 4: No, that's kind of like being raped by nature.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Evan. On a scale of one to ten,
Speaker 2: let me think I just had a good one. Okay,
Speaker 2: one to ten ghost rapes, where does the Madison Seminary fall?
Speaker 3: How did it tickle me?
Speaker 11: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to give it. I'm gonna have to
Speaker 3: give it a solid seven. Yeah, big time. Just from
Speaker 3: seeing my little sister's face, like having seen her super
Speaker 3: freaked out after going into that room with Jayden. That
Speaker 3: freaked me out real bad. Of course, the knocking right
Speaker 3: by my ear and the metal gear sounded like that.
Speaker 3: That's not really bad too, and I will definitely say
Speaker 3: I'm no, I'm not so skeptical skeptical of ghosts anymore,
Speaker 3: just because that just freaked me out so bad, so
Speaker 3: I'll give it a second. But if it comes to
Speaker 3: like ghosts followed me back or anything like that, nothing
Speaker 3: like that has happened, and thank god, you know, I
Speaker 3: don't want to hard, yeah, I don't want to learn
Speaker 3: the hard life.
Speaker 2: So Rachel into ten ghost rapes.
Speaker 7: Right, would probably go with like a six and a half, okay,
Speaker 7: because it was like it was creepy enough, but like
Speaker 7: other than just like feeling changes and energy and stuff like,
Speaker 7: I didn't nothing really paranormal happened that I like experienced.
Speaker 9: But I want to go again.
Speaker 2: I think you should go again, and like not with
Speaker 2: our family because we're a loud and obnoxious and we
Speaker 2: were running screaming in jokes.
Speaker 9: I want to behind stuff.
Speaker 2: Yes, get a ghost box to for other one to
Speaker 2: ten ghost rapes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'm for me. It was just like
Speaker 4: probably like a solid uncle fondling okay, but like like
Speaker 4: around a like around a five, you know, just like.
Speaker 2: A five ghost fondling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, something like that. You know, your creepy uncle died
Speaker 4: and came back and just gave you a bit of
Speaker 4: a fondle, that's all.
Speaker 2: Oh boy.
Speaker 4: But again, I would like to go back. I think
Speaker 4: it would be fun to explore again, maybe with a
Speaker 4: ghost box, maybe certain rooms for longer periods of time,
Speaker 4: close the doors and sit in there for a while,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I think that would be
Speaker 4: kind of cool. And I would go a little bit
Speaker 4: later in the night so that it's dark like the
Speaker 4: whole time.
Speaker 2: That also makes a difference because when it was daytime,
Speaker 2: I think we were all drinking off and then when
Speaker 2: it got actually nighttime.
Speaker 4: Yeah, then it's like, oh yeah, then you're starting to
Speaker 4: feel it. So yeah, but definitely worth seeing for sure.
Speaker 4: If you can get there, you should get there, and
Speaker 4: there's something, there's something going on there that's creepy for sure.
Speaker 2: Well, when I first got there, my rating fluctuated because
Speaker 2: when I first got there and we went through all
Speaker 2: the like no kids allowed and blah blah blah, and
Speaker 2: then we were kind of walking around, I would would
Speaker 2: have gave it like two ghost strapes. But then when
Speaker 2: in the thicke of things when we heard the knocking
Speaker 2: on the wall. Straight ten ghost.
Speaker 4: Rapes for me, straight up.
Speaker 2: Ghost rapes, legitimately puckered.
Speaker 4: That's uh. You know what. My biggest regret is Brian
Speaker 4: couldn't be there too. Mine too, My biggest regret. All right,
Speaker 4: that's the next time we go. He has to be there. Well,
Speaker 4: he that's the only prerequisite.
Speaker 9: We should do the Mansfield Prison.
Speaker 7: And yeah, because I'm pretty sure you can do sleepovers
Speaker 7: there too.
Speaker 9: I think they lock you and lock you down.
Speaker 3: I'd about that place.
Speaker 9: I will.
Speaker 2: Let's plan it for my next visit. It's going down
Speaker 2: Mansfield Reformatory.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let us know ahead of time and we'll plan
Speaker 4: for it. That'll be really fun it.
Speaker 2: Down in there together. And Evan. If you're not a
Speaker 2: believer after that, then fuck you.
Speaker 4: We'll put Evan in the solitary confinement for the whole
Speaker 4: time we're there. O, my god, you'll just come out
Speaker 4: and be like, man, I haven't had that good of
Speaker 4: a nap in year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, until he feels one of the spirits braid in
Speaker 2: his pit hairs.
Speaker 9: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Maybe like that Goes taught me how to keeyster.
Speaker 2: Well, I love you guys so much. Thank you for
Speaker 2: joining me tonight on this episode. I think we had
Speaker 2: a great family bonding experience. Cool, but thank you so much.
Speaker 2: And to all the listeners, thank you and we will
Speaker 2: catch you on the next one.
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