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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Reality te the God.

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Speaker 2: The world famous, universally famous podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Deelia. I'm one of your co hosts,

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and I'm here with my real tight homegirl and my

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daughter in law, the illustrious and the world renowned Petre.

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Speaker 2: It's we.

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Speaker 1: We are here with a twofer. Yeah for Welcome to

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plaithfill honey. Now you may know that we missed it

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last week, so that we were under the weather, both

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of us. Yeah, not just no, it was both of us,

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and so we did watch it. We took notes. Yeah,

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but we are going to cover it tonight and also

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the most recent episode, so we got you don't worry

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about it. Yeah, But before we get into it, we

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do have to issue you a disclaimer. It's very serious.

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It's serious business. It's very at this time in the world,

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we all need to understand that this is a little

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reference podcast. Yeah, hosted by a couple of chicks who

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are stupid, We wear wigs, ill informed, socially inappropriate, very

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and also we don't give a book. No why should

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we look. So if your thoughts the same for you, honey,

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boo boom, you might want to find yourself.

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Speaker 2: Another dumpster smellilator.

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Speaker 1: But if you're ready to have a really uncomfortable conversation

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with Kim plav then welcome. I've been charming at the bit.

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Welcome to this dumpster.

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Speaker 1: What are we covering right now? We are covering a

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Little Itty Bitty Women, The vale Yup, Couples Therapy with

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Doctor Jen Yeah season one, and Couples Therapy with Doctor Orna.

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Speaker 2: We've also watched movies over there. We have a bunch

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of other content too.

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Speaker 1: We also covered that psychotic nutcracker Veronica Peters allegedly. I

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don't know that she's a nutcracker for sure. I do

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know that she's psychotic. No, that's allegedly as well. But

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we covered her recent Instagram live in which she went

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wiggity whack wild, watched it and commented on it. So

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that's all on Patreon and it's also the best way

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to keep this pot going. Yes, support your sisters.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Now, if you are watching on YouTube, please do not

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forget to like and come it and share as subscribe

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and also let's party together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, give us a high, get in the pit and

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try to.

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Speaker 1: Love some raccoons. Every single thing you do helps us

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in the algorithm, allegedly, and so thank you in advance.

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And I do have an announcement. Oh yeah, I'm a

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wounded warrior. I have been felled by a bulging disk

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bulging hood d in my l four and I got

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some sort of stuend diossles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to wear nerve stun noassles causing me

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sciatic pain. And I don't know if any of you

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pose have ever had siatica. I wouldn't wish it upon.

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My worst enemy is terrible. I have been living in

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a fresh hell for weeks now, and so if I'm

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like changing my position, if I'm looking uncomfortable, that is why.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I take this podcast. There she does, it's

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her drop.

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Speaker 1: This is a professional raccoon that you're looking at here.

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So I'm gonna put up with the pain, yep, so

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we can talk about these fucking plaths.

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Speaker 2: She literally bought a standing disk, so hopefully we can

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do the pod.

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Speaker 1: And I bought an inversion table. Yeah, we should do

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our next podcast, which you sitting here, and I'll just

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be inverted on my own lady inversion. It's perfect in

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the microphone. I love that idea.

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Speaker 2: I would love that with the blood rush in your head.

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Speaker 1: That would make it better.

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Speaker 2: That would be so great.

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Speaker 1: So we have to make some accommodations for the older

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ladies in the room, but I'm excited to get into it.

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And so before we get into the recap, I do

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have to ask you, Beatrice. We've watched two episodes. Yeah,

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this shit show. What is your global takeaway?

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Speaker 2: I guess my takeaway it's gonna be a little bit serious,

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sorry about it.

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Speaker 4: It's not gonna be funny.

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Speaker 2: But like with Teagan and Ethan, you know, one thing

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my mom always told me is that everybody is put

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in your life for a reason to like teach you something,

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to either teach you something about yourself, teach you something

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about relationships, or just to teach you something in life.

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Like sometimes you know, you gotta be taught a lesson.

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And I feel like Teagan is Ethan's lesson of like

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you know, you can't just keep being a shitty boyfriend.

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You can't just keep avoiding everything and getting all chromagnum,

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you know, toddler baby angry and run away and peel

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off in your old man car. Like you had this

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beautiful woman who loved you, Like, let's not forget that

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she was in love with you. She thought she was

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gonna marry you, and you still treated her like shit.

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think that that's what Ethan is going through right now,

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like he's being taught a lesson. He failed to learn

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that lesson with Olivia, he failed to learn that with Tegan.

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And I'm just like, dude, the universe is gonna keep

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sending you the same thing over and over again, Like

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how many more beautiful women are you gonna fuck over,

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dude and just lose and squander.

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Speaker 1: Well, but what people don't realize is that the universe escalates.

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lesson from the first encounter, m it's gonna be louder,

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it's gonna be bigger. So like, pay attention to your life. Yeah,

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pay attention to the common themes in your life. People

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are telling you you are a terrible communicator and that

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you're generally an asshole and misogynist. Don't get me started

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on even flat Well, people are telling you that you

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should listen and you should do the work required to

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change yourself. Exactly, but like that's what we thinking raccoons

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would do. Ethan is not a raccoon. He's a gelatinous,

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mashed potato man.

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Speaker 2: Well, and Tiagan was recently on Instagram posting pictures of

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her new mean and I'm just like you, and he's handsome.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see his face, I see his hand behind it.

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Really good for her, even though I'm so bored with her.

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She has no personality. In Veronica's Live, which we are

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covering on Patreon. In fact, I think it drops tomorrow

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or tomorrow Frida every day Friday, So like she actually

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talks a little bit about Teagan. And while she's been

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and vile and venomous, she's not wrong sometimes, Yeah, she's

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not necessarily wrong. Taking bores me. So my takeaway is

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that I was very offended on Kim's behalf.

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Speaker 2: Were you I actually was? I'm surprised. I really were

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so excited about this conversation.

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Speaker 1: I was excited about it for all of the wrong reasons.

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man Ken Palmer, Yeah, sitting across from her with all

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the audacity in the world, with this dumb jukebox residing

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in her farm house that she owns giving her ultimatums.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was upset about it, and I'm going to

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be talking about it in this podcast.

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Speaker 2: You can't stop me. I know how you feel. I

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won't stop you.

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Speaker 1: I know how you feel. But like I was very

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offended on behalf of Kim and all portly women, me

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included what portly Kim says herself. Yeah, Kim says herself.

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I'm not fat shaming her. She says herself that she

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to when she first discussed Joshua, Like, something has changed

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in her life. It's very evident, and so this is

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something Kim is talking about. Yeah, And so I was

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just offended on her behalf because she understands and she's

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aware of it. Sure, Okay, zipping my lip without further ado,

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Let's get into our recap of Welcome to Platfol season eight,

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episodes eight and nine, entitled most Recent.

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Speaker 2: Well most recent is it's all caddiewampus.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. Okay, but last week's

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episode was Upcreek without a paddle and last week's episode

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was pretty boring. The only highlight really was Ken confronting

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Kim and giving the ultimatum about her weight and her

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health or whatever. Last week's episode was very heavy on

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Ethan and Teagan as well, because we were finishing up

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the montage trip, and honestly, it was awkward af because

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Teagan didn't really want to be there and she doesn't

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really want to be with Ethan. Ethlyn is hopelessly hope

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hoping that he can get back together with Teagan somehow

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and like win her good graces back, and I'm like, dude,

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it's never going to happen. Even Mariah and Isaac are

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like trying to talk to him about it and be like, well,

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maybe just meet her where she's at, And everybody's kind

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of like tiptoeing around Ethan because they know that he

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is depressed.

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Speaker 1: Well and you can't talk to him no, and he

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won't listen to anybody.

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Speaker 2: Like at all, and he's just gonna do what he

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wants to do. And like it goes back to my

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takeaway earlier about like Ethan, you need to learn the lesson,

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like these grand gestures that you are doing for these women,

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Like it's not going to mean anything if your actions

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are anytime you're upset or overwhelmed by your emotions, you

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fucking peel off and run away and turn off your

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phone so you can't be contact.

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Speaker 1: For hours, for hours while she's in another state with

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Speaker 4: That's whack.

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Speaker 2: That is whack. I don't understand. And so it's like

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last week's episode was really hard to watch just because

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Ethan is just so pathetic, honestly, and it's sad, Like

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it's sad, it's embarrassing. I'm just like, Ethan, what are

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you doing? Teagan is just not into him. I don't

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know why Teagan's even entertaining it. I don't know why

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she went to Montana in the first place. We had

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a conversation with her mom after they got back from

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Montana and it was after Christmas, and this was super produced,

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but you know, Teagan's mom was giving Ethan more grace

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than what we're giving him. She was saying, you know,

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he's very damaged obviously from his previous relationship, and he's

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got a lot of healing to do. He's got to

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do some shadow work. And Teagan's like, yeah, but I

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don't want no part, no part of it. I guess

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Ethan was alone on Christmas Day because you know, he

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chose to move up to Wisconsin and be there, away

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from his family, away from all of his friends for Christmas.

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Teagan didn't want him over for Christmas, but she brought

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him leftovers from her Christmas dinner.

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Speaker 1: It sounds really sad. I feel bad for Ethan because

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of course, anybody who's alone at Christmas, especially when we

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know his heart is to be with the woman that

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he loves, like that's probably devastating. But you brought this

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upon yourself with your bad behavior and then making this

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crazy decision to move to eastern Wisconsin and get a house.

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And she didn't ask for that, She didn't ask for

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any of it, and so this is what you get.

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Speaker 2: Well, and it's obviously like he did this way too

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late too, Like it's not like he moved to Wisconsin

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right after their breakup to try and write her back,

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you know, like he waited months, didn't talk to her.

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Four months they broke up, they were done, no contact.

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He goes back to Georgia four months, and then all

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of a sudden, when he's lonely and his hands and

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can't cut it out for him anymore, then he's like.

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Speaker 4: You know what, I'm gonna move to Wisconsin and winter back.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't work like that, It doesn't, It really doesn't.

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So it's just it's pathetic to watch, honestly, and like

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I feel bad for him, but at the same time,

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it's like, dude, it's kind of frustrating me at this

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point to watch him be so pathetic and try and

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win this girl back who very obviously wants nothing to

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do with him.

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Speaker 1: Well, and even when we skip ahead to the most

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recent episode and Kim comes to see Ethan and bring

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him some stuff, like she's trying to talk to you, Ethan,

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She's trying to have a conversation, like she's attempting that

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connection with you, and you're literally just not even answering her.

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And I'm not sure if it's because you don't want

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to talk on camera. I don't know that, Like there's

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better ways to present yourself, yeah, and communicate something to somebody,

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like it's just so broken. Yeah, he is so broken.

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Speaker 2: He needs therapy, dude. It's really bad. And honestly, like

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I blame Kim and Barry, I really do, because I'm

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just like, this is the kid that you produced, you

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know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think Kim Visa VI her conversation with Lydia

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in the most recent episode kind of approaches taking accountability

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for that little bit. But I think she knows, Yeah,

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we didn't do the best job with these kids. Yeah,

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and that's why my boys have picked weird partners. And

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it all goes back to me and Barry, like she

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said something like that, right, kinda sort of.

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Speaker 2: But it was also like in the same breath of

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I'm offended that people are talking about that they didn't have,

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you know, the tools and resources, Like what about me,

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though I didn't have the tools and resources? Well, you're

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the parent, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: But in last week's episode, again, like I said, the

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highlight was Ken confronting Kim about her health and her wellness.

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And this was a pretty crazy conversation because he straight

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up just says, yeah, you're overweight. You're fucking fat.

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Speaker 1: You're not just chubby, you haven't just gotten a little fluffy.

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But like, I think you're going to die.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I honestly I think you're gonna die.

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Speaker 1: Like I worry about you dying. Yeah, because you put

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on so much weight and you live an unhealthy lifestyle,

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like you don't exercise. You keep saying that you're going

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to make these changes, and you're not doing that at all.

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And so I want to preface this convo with you

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by saying that I think that within the scope of

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the healthy relationship with someone that you love and who

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loves you, like, if you're doing something in your life

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that is detrimental and unhealthy and even toxic, it is

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perfectly fair. And I would say, like I would hope

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that the partner would bring that up with you and say, hey, look,

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I noticed that you've been doing this lately, or that

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I've seen these changes in you. I'm a bit concerned.

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I think it's unhealthy. I think you need to go

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to a doctor or whatever. Like, within a normal relationship,

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I think people ought to hold their partner accountable. But

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what happened with Kim and Ken didn't really feel that way.

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It felt very one sign I did. It felt very

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focused on Kim and what she's not doing. Meanwhile, according

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to Veronica Peters, like he smokes like a chimney. He's

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not in the best shape, He's a clear geriatric. Yet

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what do you do for a job? What about the

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kids that you're just enfranchised from? Like how healthy are you?

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Speaker 4: Ken?

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Speaker 1: So it just it rubbed me the wrong way. Beatrice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, see, I don't really feel bad for Kim in

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this segment because I'm just like, Kim, you kind of suck.

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But I felt like this conversation was inappropriate. It was

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inappropriate to have on camera also because again, if this

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is like a healthy relationship, this is a private conversation

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you have with your spouse. Sure of like, hey, I'm

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noticing that you're engaging in some really unhealthy behavior, and

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I'm worried about the longevity of you in our relationship

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because I want to be with you forever. Like that's

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fine and dandy, but to have it on camera felt

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very weird to me. I was looking on Reddit to

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see what other people's thoughts were about this conversation, and

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some people brought up that it felt very scripted. So

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maybe Kim was the one that wanted to have this conversation,

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So yeah, kind of felt like that to me. Also,

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people were bringing up that maybe this conversation was actually

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about her alcoholism and not her fatness, because at one point,

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I think Ken or she brought up going to bed

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drinking wine every night and how that was unhealthy, and

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so people were thinking or speculating that maybe this was

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some weird attempt at like an intervention for her being

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a drunk, and that a lot of that got edited

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out or it got scripted into a way where it

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was about her weight.

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Speaker 4: Instead of that.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, I could see a conversation where

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maybe Ken Palmer was like, you're drinking a lot, but.

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Speaker 1: He's drinking a lot, dull, he looks like an alcoholic too.

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Speaker 2: No, and that's the thing too, And like goes back

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to your point of like, within the health the scope

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of a healthy really relationship, it would be appropriate for

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your spouse to like advocate for your health. And if

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Ken was a bastion of health, if he was fit

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and actually being healthy and like not smoking and like

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could talk without slurring his words, like maybe it would

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be more appropriate. But look in the mirror, dude, you

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can't even like walk, And.

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Speaker 1: So there is like a bigger conversation to have around this,

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which is why I think this pissed off so many people.

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I mean, I imagine, I'm not I wasn't on reddit,

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like looking at all the subreddits about this, but like

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how women are so harshly judged, especially as they get older, yes,

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and how men sort of sit in this superior place

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where they think they can judge us. Meanwhile, you're aging

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just as quickly, if not worse. Meanwhile, you're unemployed and

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living in her house, which was given to her apparently

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from an inheritance, which she owns outright, I think based

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on what I have read, and she's subsidizing your entire life.

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I think maybe you get some sort of a pension.

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I don't know, but like you're living off of her

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large ass. You're not large ass. I know her large ass,

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like the things, the shit she has, he's living off

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of that, yep. And so he's going to give her

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an ultimatum to do even more to prove to him

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that she's willing to be in this committed relationship. Well,

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she's moved you into her house with her three minor children.

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Speaker 2: Right, And that's why I felt like this conversation was

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a bit scripted, and I'm just like wondering why, like

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why would Kim want to even have this conversation on camera, Like,

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are you really that desperate for content?

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Speaker 1: It's because she's about to start a GLP one and

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in the next season of Welcome to Platvill, she's going

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to be thinner. And it's because she went on a

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health and fitness journey because Ken gave her this ultimatum.

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That's why I could see this is all a storyline

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for the future.

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Speaker 2: Well, and also she's probably a bit jealous and bitter

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that Barry has gone down this health and fitness journey

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and he's straight up jacked and like he's juicing and

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he's doing CrossFit and stuff, and he's going on dates

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with skinny women, you know what I mean. So she's

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probably like a little bit bitter too, and is like

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self aware enough to be like, oh, this makes me

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look bad. And you know, it's funny to me that

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people on Reddit were like so up in arms about

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this conversation because prior to this episode, everybody was talking

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about how fucking fat Kim was, So I'm just like, Okay,

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you can't have your cake and eat it too, you

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know what I mean. But I do agree with you,

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like within the like larger conversation of women are always

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fat shained, women are always criticized for how they look. Meanwhile,

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men are walking around with beer bellies and small PEPs

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and no teeth, you know what I mean. And like

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they're walking around like they're hot as shit. And then

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they want women to be skinny, and they want them

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to have a thigh gap, and they want them to

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look a certain way, and they want them to look

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young and pretty entight. Fuck that for sure. And to

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Kim's credit, like she is somebody who is traumatized, She's

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gone through a lot in her life. She's probably an

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alcoholic and that's probably contributing to her.

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Speaker 1: They're probably alcoholics.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And so it's like I can feel for Kim

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in that way, but Kim just kind of sucks as

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a person, and so I'm just like, I don't have

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a lot of sympathy for her, especially if she's the

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one that scripted this whole conversation.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and if she did script this conversation, this is

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the last thing I'll say before we should probably move

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on because we could be here forever. But like if

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she did script this conversation and plan it all out,

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she actually did ken dirty totally to put him in

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a conversation where he's got to be the one to

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say this her because he looks like a bad guy

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and everybody now hates him even more than they already

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hated him because you cheated exactly with Kim while she

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was married exactly.

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Speaker 2: So that was last week's episode. In this week's episode,

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we have Kim arriving in Wisconsin because she drove up

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there to basically check on e because he moved up

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there on a whim, and also to bring him his

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bullshit because I guess he packed up what he could

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in his old man car and like left everything else

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at home, and so she's bringing his like TV and

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some of his clothes and like silverware and stuff that

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he needs to like live. So when she arrives at

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his rental house, it is barren, like he literally has nothing.

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He has a shitty little two seater couch, he's got

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like one chair, he has nothing in the cabinets. He's

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sleeping on blankets on the floor and Kim arrives and

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it's weird, like it's just an awkward vibe. Ethan is

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obviously depressed and he's there to try and win back

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this girl that wants nothing to do with him, and

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Kim is trying, to her credit, to kind of connect

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to him and like ask him about his relationship with

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Teagan and like what are you guys right now? Like

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are you friends? Are you working on things? Like what's

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going on? And Ethan, of course, is not.

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Speaker 1: Safe answer her yep, doesn't say words.

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Speaker 2: She literally has to be like did you hear me?

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Speaker 1: He walks into the bedroom and shuts the door yep,

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while she's standing outside of the bedroom.

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Speaker 2: While she's actively trying to talk to him. And Ethan's

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excuse to the camera is that, you know, he knows

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his mom is trying to connect with him and ask

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him questions, but he doesn't want her to take the

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information that he.

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Speaker 1: Gets her, right, He did say that.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't want her to gossip and spread it around

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in the family and he wants to be respectful to

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Teagan's feelings.

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Speaker 1: Which was interesting because of course we have Zach and

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also Lydia saying from the sidelines that they don't necessarily

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trust him not to tell their business and the business

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of other people in the family, Like she's the one

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that's sharing a lot of that sort to hear, Ethan

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sort of echo that Yep was telling.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I think he learned from his relationship with

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Olivia that that's kind of what Kim does, and especially

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on this show, she does spreadshit around a lot. So

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it's kind of funny that, like, you know, she doesn't

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want her kids to say certain things publicly or share

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certain stories, but she has no problem right saying whatever

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she feels like, especially on camera. And so I do

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understand that Ethan doesn't really want to get into too

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many specifics.

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Speaker 1: Say something, but just say, like, we can talk about

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this later, Mom, Yeah, you can use your words, right,

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And that does not occur.

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Speaker 2: To him, and it's like, you're a whole adult, dude.

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I don't understand why you can't just say something like that.

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But no, he's just gonna slam the door in his

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mom's face, I guess. And then Kim, you know, tries

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to relate to him by talking about how many times

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her and Ken have broken up and you know, you know,

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the last time we broke up lasted a couple of

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months and it was pretty hard, but like then we

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realized that we loved each other and you know, we

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got back together, so like maybe that that'll happen with

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you and Taken. I'm like, Kim, let's not. Let's not

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try to relate to your kid when you're talking about

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this guy that you cheated on your husband with and

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your multiple breakups.

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Speaker 4: Like miss me with that.

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Speaker 2: And then we shift gears. We go down to Florida

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with Isaac and Kaylan. They're heading over to have pizza

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and games with Zach and Lydia.

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Speaker 1: Snory dude, and they're so awkward.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's awkward.

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Speaker 1: Everyone is awkward. It was a strange encounter.

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Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed, Like they're playing like a couple's game. And

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there's a question that's like, you know, if I was

473
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,400
a cowboy and I was a horse, who would ride who?

474
00:24:29,079 --> 00:24:31,680
And I'm just like, why why do we got to

475
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,200
talk about this? Kaylin is laughing because she knows the implication,

476
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:40,480
but like the married virgin couple doesn't know. Isaac and

477
00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:45,279
Kayleen are giggling and I'm just like stop it stop.

478
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,559
And there really wasn't like much in this segment really

479
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,440
other than discussing the Montana trip, and I just don't give.

480
00:24:53,279 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: A fuck, right, So Zach kind of goes out of

481
00:24:56,279 --> 00:24:58,960
his way. He takes pains to let us snow once

482
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,759
again that he and Lydia were not invited to Montana

483
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,119
like everybody else, which is fine because they're busy and

484
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,960
they would not have been able to go. But they're

485
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,640
gonna go to Montana soon. But like you can tell

486
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,480
that they're actually but hurt about that totally, And I

487
00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:17,279
wonder why, though, why weren't they invited? Is it because

488
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:18,559
nobody likes Zach?

489
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like they were invited last minute and

490
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,119
they just couldn't get the time off work or something.

491
00:25:24,519 --> 00:25:27,039
But they're bitter about that because they're like, why didn't

492
00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:28,000
you invite us sooner?

493
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 4: But I don't know.

494
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't have wanted to infind that.

495
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: Well, based on the preview, there's good reason not to

496
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:34,759
have them there.

497
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 2: They seem like annoying to be around, and they seem

498
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,559
weird to be around, like I don't I don't know.

499
00:25:39,559 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: They seem very judgmental and superior.

500
00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: Super that and Isaac even makes a comment in this

501
00:25:45,079 --> 00:25:47,960
episode about how like, you know, they've done really well

502
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,799
to try and reconcile after the marriage or after the

503
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:56,000
wedding where Isaac and Ethan acted very inappropriately and Isaac's like,

504
00:25:56,039 --> 00:25:58,160
you know, I apologize for everything that I did wrong,

505
00:25:58,559 --> 00:26:00,440
Like I own up to all of that. He makes

506
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,359
a weird statement where he says, you know, they've got

507
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,720
to work on some things themselves because they're very high

508
00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:10,440
up on their stool. Yeah, so he's already like planting that,

509
00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:12,680
like they're very high and mighty.

510
00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:14,039
Speaker 4: They're judging everybody.

511
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,079
Speaker 2: And I'm not into that. Man, not into that at all.

512
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,799
Speaker 1: And I can see it totally, especially in the car

513
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,279
ride which we're gonna get to girl totally.

514
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: And so then we go back to Wisconsin where we

515
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,640
have Ethan inviting Teagan over to see his rental house

516
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,440
and I'm just like.

517
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,599
Speaker 1: Oh god, this whole scene.

518
00:26:31,519 --> 00:26:35,079
Speaker 2: This was so awkward. Yes, it was so painfully awkward,

519
00:26:35,079 --> 00:26:38,119
Like I literally texted you today like I'm cringing so hard.

520
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,079
This is embarrassing. And Teagan shows up. She bangs on

521
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,720
the door multiple times because I guess Ethan didn't hear

522
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:46,599
her he was in the bathroom, and then she like

523
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,759
makes a snide comment about like I was waiting out

524
00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:51,319
there forever. He's like, well, I was in the bathroom,

525
00:26:51,559 --> 00:26:55,440
like chill out. And it's just weird because Ethan has

526
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,599
nothing in his house. There's literally there's not even a TV.

527
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,720
There's a little couch yeah, and what else?

528
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? A box of brownie mix.

529
00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

530
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: And they try to make brownies because you know, Ethan

531
00:27:09,559 --> 00:27:12,960
knows Teagan loves brownies, so he bought all the ingredients

532
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,000
for the brownies, but was too stupid to get to

533
00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:19,559
get measuring cups. So they can't even really make them

534
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:20,640
or I think they tried to.

535
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,079
Speaker 1: Whatever. It's just awkward. Well, and Teagan doesn't want to help. No,

536
00:27:25,319 --> 00:27:31,359
she's not being very engaging. She seems very stiff. She

537
00:27:31,559 --> 00:27:35,400
also seems pretty judgmental. Yeah, as she's walking around his place,

538
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,720
you can see that in his own lame way, he's

539
00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:41,319
trying to connect and to reach out to her and

540
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,839
engage her in conversation. But she's just like, so walls up,

541
00:27:46,319 --> 00:27:48,400
Mary Brown. She's just like not having any of it.

542
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,319
I'm like, why are you there?

543
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:49,519
Speaker 2: Then?

544
00:27:49,839 --> 00:27:53,039
Speaker 1: Why are why give him false hope? That's the thing

545
00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:55,920
that's not nice to do. Just tell him straight up.

546
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,599
I'm not interested. I don't know why you moved here.

547
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:58,559
You shouldn't have done it.

548
00:27:58,599 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 4: That was stupid.

549
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,599
Speaker 1: But you're a stupid and I don't want to have

550
00:28:01,759 --> 00:28:03,839
anything to do with you. Just be honest.

551
00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 2: That's what I don't understand. It's like, I wonder how

552
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,359
their conversation went when he announced to her a couple

553
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,720
episodes ago that he was planning to move back, because like,

554
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,880
why didn't you say then, Ethan, I don't want you back,

555
00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:18,400
Like you can move here if you want, but I'm

556
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,720
never going to take you back. Like why didn't you

557
00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:25,799
have that conversation? Why did you go to Montana? Why

558
00:28:25,839 --> 00:28:26,359
are you going to.

559
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 4: Visit his house?

560
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,559
Speaker 1: Well, but she didn't learn about him moving there till

561
00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:31,920
he was there, right.

562
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 2: No, he like, drove up.

563
00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: I need to tell he drove up. But then he

564
00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:41,720
also leased the place and told her I'm living here now.

565
00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:44,799
So that was her first time hearing it, Like she

566
00:28:44,839 --> 00:28:47,279
didn't know that he was going to do that. He moved,

567
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,599
he got a house, and then he told her.

568
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,839
Speaker 2: I thought it was he was going to look at places,

569
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,000
because didn't he drive up At one point He's like,

570
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,519
I'm gonna look at places.

571
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was the same time that he got

572
00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:01,440
the flowers and then at the park.

573
00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

574
00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: I feel like she was blindsided. She had no sure

575
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,880
idea what he was doing. He made the decision to

576
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,440
do that. It's been three weeks since they got back

577
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,440
from Montana. Yeah, she hasn't seen him. He hasn't called her.

578
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: She does the thing too.

579
00:29:16,359 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he hasn't called her. He hasn't like asked her

580
00:29:19,319 --> 00:29:21,559
out on a day out or anything. This is the

581
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,680
first time he's reached out and she's been over So like,

582
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:26,000
what are you doing, Ethan?

583
00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:30,359
Speaker 2: And like Ethan in his like weird, stupid brain, He's like,

584
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,799
you know, she's probably thinking that I'm only going to

585
00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:36,079
be here temporarily and so it doesn't mean much to

586
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,279
her right now. But you know, if she can see

587
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:42,160
that I'm here long term, maybe it'll change her mind

588
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,920
or something. And I'm like, dude, it's not gonna happen

589
00:29:44,039 --> 00:29:47,279
because she's obviously going to get another boyfriend and not

590
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,480
be into you anymore.

591
00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:51,519
Speaker 1: I really wonder how long he makes it in Wisconsin.

592
00:29:51,599 --> 00:29:52,480
Does anybody know?

593
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:53,279
Speaker 4: Yeah?

594
00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:56,039
Speaker 1: Does he stay like an entire year he's still there?

595
00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:58,599
Is he in Wisconsin right now? Or did he go

596
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,000
back to Georgia, because he talked about going back to Georgia.

597
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,599
Speaker 2: He did, he did mention it, so I don't know.

598
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,640
Like she's sitting on his weird, stupid couch, he's sitting

599
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,759
on a chair. They're not saying anything to each other.

600
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,799
And then Kim comes in to kind of be the

601
00:30:13,839 --> 00:30:17,960
buffer here because it's fucking awkward, and she's mainly there

602
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,680
to like talk to Teagan on camera, of course, but

603
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,319
she arrives and she's like, this is weird. Vibes are off,

604
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,960
it's awkward as hell. I think Ethan leaves to like

605
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,839
go to the store or something, or go to work

606
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,440
or whatever, and so then this is Kim's chance to

607
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,279
talk to Teagan. And I was actually glad that Kim

608
00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:42,279
wasn't judgmental of Teagan in this moment, because I was

609
00:30:42,319 --> 00:30:44,599
worried that she was going to be like a total

610
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,359
boy mom and be like, well, you broke his heart

611
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,119
or whatever. But she actually hears her out, and she

612
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,160
hears about what ultimately led to the demise of their

613
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,039
relationship and how Ethan just straight up fucking peeled off

614
00:30:57,079 --> 00:31:01,119
and left, didn't turn his phone on, didn't contact her,

615
00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:05,400
and Kim says, you know, I totally understand. I can't

616
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,720
blame Tegan for breaking.

617
00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 4: Up with her.

618
00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:10,359
Speaker 2: I get it. And she kind of talks to her

619
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,440
about like the state of where they're at right now.

620
00:31:13,759 --> 00:31:16,559
Teagan says that they're not even really friends. They're like

621
00:31:16,599 --> 00:31:21,640
a step below that they're working towards friendship, and you know,

622
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:25,440
Kim says something like, you know, I'm a boy mom,

623
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,000
and sometimes my boys can pick bad women or whatever,

624
00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:33,119
but like Isaac picked a good one and Ethan picked

625
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,079
a good one with you, like, you're a good girl,

626
00:31:35,599 --> 00:31:38,200
and I just don't want you to think I think

627
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,759
anything bad of you. And Teagan was glad to hear that,

628
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,599
and it was just kind of like a whatever. Well.

629
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,559
Speaker 1: I thought that Kim handled that well. I think that

630
00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:51,480
it was great that she was able to see Teagan's position,

631
00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:55,000
that she was able to agree with Tegan's position. She said,

632
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,720
Ethan has a lot of baggage. Yeah, and it comes

633
00:31:57,759 --> 00:32:00,440
from his relationship and his marriage with a live He's

634
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,519
been through a lot and he really needs to get

635
00:32:03,559 --> 00:32:06,480
his shit together and paraphrasing, obviously if he wants to

636
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,400
be in a relationship with anybody, not just tigging, but

637
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,599
like you gotta gear shit together. Yeah, gotta do something

638
00:32:11,599 --> 00:32:14,200
about this, Ethan. You can't just go throughout the rest

639
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,880
of your life damaged by this one relationship and be broken.

640
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,640
That's not how it should work.

641
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Kim also acknowledges with Teagan that Ethan is

642
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,039
a horrible, horrible communicator and doesn't say anything and he

643
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:30,119
needs to learn to be better about that. And then

644
00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:33,400
I think Kim to the camera says that she thinks

645
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,359
Teagan needs to see more from Ethan than him just

646
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,759
moving here, like she needs to see growth and change

647
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,279
and an effort to communicate, of course, like a big

648
00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:49,440
adult man. And obviously that this move is just Ethan

649
00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:54,880
acting on emotion an impulse rather than logic, and sometimes

650
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,799
that can be a good thing, but sometimes it can

651
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,799
just bite you, an mass.

652
00:32:59,119 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: I keep going back to what Cayln said a few

653
00:33:02,759 --> 00:33:07,200
episodes ago about Teagan, about how Ethan had done a

654
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,799
lot for Teagan, and that Teagan had done a couple

655
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,240
of things that Kaylin didn't necessarily agree with, and of

656
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,039
course she did not elaborate, but I really want to

657
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:21,160
know what those things are now. It might be absolutely nothing.

658
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,839
It could just be that Ethan after they broke up,

659
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,000
went back to his family and talked shit about her

660
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:29,480
and all the things that she supposedly did wrong when

661
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,039
she really did nothing wrong. Because the way Teagan explains

662
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:37,200
it is that she prioritized Ethan like he was important

663
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:39,200
to her, and she did whatever she could to be

664
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:44,680
in this relationship, and Ethan also prioritized Ethan, and so

665
00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:47,000
after a period of time, it's just she's got to

666
00:33:47,079 --> 00:33:49,680
choose herself. Yeah, So I just really want to know

667
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,400
if there's something else there that Teagan did or that

668
00:33:53,559 --> 00:33:56,880
contributed to this. I wish they would tell the viewers

669
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,720
because we're just left here wondering. Obviously, Ethan is weird. Yeah,

670
00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:04,559
he's not an ideal partner, but like, what's the whole story?

671
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:06,759
I feel like we're missing something, do you?

672
00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:11,039
Speaker 2: I agree, yes, And I'm really curious what Caylen even

673
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:15,480
meant by that, because as it is right now, I

674
00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:18,079
am siding with Teagan, of course, and it's like I

675
00:34:18,119 --> 00:34:20,039
think Ethan was a piece of shit, you know what

676
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:24,320
I mean. And Teagan is also being pretty careful with

677
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,320
the way that she is talking about like their breakup,

678
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,199
Like she's not talking shit about Ethan, She's not even

679
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,639
really being mean to him when she very well could

680
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:34,800
be and has a right to be mean to him

681
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,679
with how he treated her, But she's being very respectful

682
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,599
and very like, you know, I have love for him,

683
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,000
I'm not in love with him right now, and like

684
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,000
I can see that he's hurting, but I'm just doing

685
00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:49,599
me and I'm living my life like she is being

686
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,480
very kind about it, whereas other people on the show,

687
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,039
right were always the kindest after the breakups and stuff,

688
00:34:59,039 --> 00:35:02,199
and so I don't know, I'm at this point. I'm

689
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,719
kind of like, Ethan, you squandered this, absolutely fucked this up,

690
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,000
and we know that she's moved on.

691
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's doing. If he's dating. I mean,

692
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,400
wouldn't it be a wonderful world if he actually got

693
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,679
some therapy and tried to work on himself before he

694
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,360
entered into another relationship. But he's not going to mm mmm.

695
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: And I saw some things on Facebook that I can't

696
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,280
tell if they're true or not, because Facebook is just

697
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,639
a bunch of AI slopped most of the time. But

698
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,480
there were some photos going around of Ethan seen in

699
00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:35,199
public with another blonde haired girl, and some people were

700
00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:38,480
thinking that it was probably Mariah or something. But I'm like,

701
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,000
is Ethan already dating? Because if he be surprised, I'm

702
00:35:43,039 --> 00:35:44,679
just like, dude, you need therapy and you need to

703
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,639
like be single for a while before you jump into

704
00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:49,639
another relationship.

705
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:52,199
Speaker 1: There are so many unhealed people out there just jumping

706
00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:55,840
from relationship to relationship and yep, not understanding that they

707
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:56,880
are the whole and.

708
00:35:57,119 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 4: Entire problem exactly.

709
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, t get over here going to New York with

710
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,719
her new boyfriend.

711
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: It's life, Go get a girl.

712
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: And I'm just wondering if Ethan is just but hurt

713
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,960
by it. He probably is, I hope, so you know whatever,

714
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:17,679
Then we go, must we to a wellness center? Oh lord,

715
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:24,199
sauna Zach and Plath, Daddy, Barry Plath. And I'm just like, why,

716
00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:27,360
I don't care about the compression socks. I don't care

717
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,440
about the jiggling. I don't care about the sauna. I

718
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,480
don't care at all.

719
00:36:31,559 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about how he's gonna date

720
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:38,280
the matchmaker. We've been over this, Barry, We've talked about it.

721
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,239
It's a nothing burger. I did have a vibration of

722
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,440
It's kind of nice seeing the camaraderie between Barry and Zach.

723
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:51,840
They had sort of a funny relationship and I thought

724
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,840
I got it both awkward. Yeah, I thought it was sweet.

725
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,360
And that's as far as I'm gonna go because I

726
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,159
was so bored.

727
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really don't care about this segment at all.

728
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,840
The only thing that was funny to me was when

729
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:07,599
Barry was joking with Zach about being called the plath Daddy,

730
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,400
and Zach's like, I am never calling you. And I

731
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:13,320
like seeing Barry giggle because he has kind.

732
00:37:13,199 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 4: Of like a sweet robotic and they both do together.

733
00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:19,119
Speaker 1: They totally have a neat little friendship that I liked.

734
00:37:19,199 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was fine, And it's because they're both

735
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,880
too awkward, weird, they're very similar.

736
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes.

737
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,079
Speaker 2: The only thing about this segment is that it kind

738
00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:31,960
of segues into talking about Lydia and Kim's relationship. Barry

739
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:37,920
and Zach talk about it because Zach says Lydia's still

740
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,320
having some issues with Kim because she's not as emotionally

741
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,519
involved as she would want her to be. Apparently, according

742
00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:47,800
to Zach, Kim only calls Lydia when she needs something.

743
00:37:48,199 --> 00:37:50,480
She doesn't ever really call her just to call her

744
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,000
or ask about her day or ask about Lydia's world

745
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:59,440
and that is hurting Lydia's feelings. Barry acknowledges that Kim

746
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,920
is no emotionally involved whatsoever, but he hopes that they

747
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,159
can work on it. And while they're at the wellness center,

748
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,880
Zach and Lydia actually got to go to Montana. They

749
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,400
visited Mariah, and then Zach flew back home to go

750
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,039
to the Sawna with Barry, and Lydia flew back to

751
00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:24,559
Wisconsin to visit with Ethan and then ultimately drive back

752
00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:26,199
home with Kim.

753
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 1: While they're at the wellness center and having the conversation

754
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,199
about Kim and Lydia, Zach does allude to the accident

755
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,159
with Joshua. Yes, he doesn't come right out and say it,

756
00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:41,840
but Barry says, oh, you're talking about Joshua, and he

757
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:48,880
makes the connection that Kim's emotional unavailability may be connected

758
00:38:49,039 --> 00:38:51,760
to that, and he says not in the present day,

759
00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:55,199
it's not like Kim is walking around wounded about it.

760
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,519
But maybe underneath it all, underneath the layers, there's like

761
00:38:58,599 --> 00:39:03,559
something in there where she hasn't healed, it's unresolved, and

762
00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:07,400
that could be causing the disconnect. Between certainly her and

763
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,000
Lydia and maybe other members of the family, which is astute, yeah,

764
00:39:11,159 --> 00:39:13,480
and which I think could be true.

765
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 2: Sure it felt scripted to me though, I'm like, why

766
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,519
are we bringing up Joshua as like a way to

767
00:39:19,679 --> 00:39:25,960
kind of excuse Kim's emotional bad mothering and bad mothering, right, Like,

768
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,159
we don't need to do that. And so then we

769
00:39:28,639 --> 00:39:32,079
shift back to Kim and Lydia who are driving back

770
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:34,440
home from Wisconsin, and this is kind of where we

771
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:37,679
end the episode, but we start off with this like

772
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,599
weird interaction with them in the car. At one point,

773
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,880
Kim brings up or shows a photo of a bong

774
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,320
that they found in the barn on their property or whatever,

775
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,840
and Kim explains what it is to Lydia, because you know,

776
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,480
she's so innocent and godly and she would never be

777
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:03,480
dared to even witness or acknowledge the presence.

778
00:40:03,159 --> 00:40:03,639
Speaker 4: Of a bong.

779
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,519
Speaker 1: So she's looking at the image, she doesn't know what

780
00:40:06,559 --> 00:40:10,119
it is. Kim tells her, Oh, it's a bong. Yeah,

781
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,320
you use a bong in order to smoke weed. There's

782
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,599
another way you can smoke weed, which is like with

783
00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:18,840
something called a doobie. It's so stupid. But you can

784
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,440
see Lydia's face in the moment transform from sort of

785
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:28,719
her normal soft kind of expression to an absolutely judgmental expression.

786
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,000
She's like, and why are we talking about this right now?

787
00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 4: How did we even get on this subject?

788
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,639
Speaker 1: How did we get on this subject? I was like,

789
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,840
whoa rude? So next week when we've got family members

790
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,480
talking about how judgmental they are, Like, I can see

791
00:40:41,519 --> 00:40:44,400
it right in this moment that Lydia does have that

792
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,199
superior Christian attitude totally.

793
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,159
Speaker 2: And it was when Kim was explaining what it was about, like,

794
00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:52,760
this is a bong. People use it to smoke pot. Oh.

795
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,519
I smoked pot a couple times in college, but it's

796
00:40:55,599 --> 00:40:58,239
nothing to brag home about, Like I've never done it since.

797
00:40:58,599 --> 00:41:01,239
And this bong that I'm showing you and this picture

798
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,559
is not mine, just so you know. But like, Lydia

799
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,920
is already sticking her nose in the air, judging the

800
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,800
fuck out of Kim, and I think she's kind of

801
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,760
assuming that it probably was Kim's bong or something, because

802
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,800
Kim is acting like this was found on the property,

803
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,800
like so somebody who had lived your prime previous.

804
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,559
Speaker 1: It was found in the barn.

805
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

806
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:25,159
Speaker 1: I have been telling you season after season after season,

807
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:29,880
where does Kim go to drink her vodka? Where does

808
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:32,320
Kim go to eat her m and ms while she's

809
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,920
starving her kids of sugar? And where does Kim go

810
00:41:35,039 --> 00:41:38,920
apparently to take a hit off that bong? It's the barn?

811
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:39,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

812
00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: Do we think that it's Kim's bong?

813
00:41:41,079 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: I'm kind of I kind of do. I'm kind of

814
00:41:43,039 --> 00:41:45,719
thinking it is. And Kim is just pretending like it's

815
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,760
not because she's feeling judged so harshly by Lydia in

816
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,000
this moment, but it was just awkward. And then at

817
00:41:53,079 --> 00:41:57,400
some point we get on the subject about Joshua and

818
00:41:57,519 --> 00:42:01,760
Kim tells us that I guess Lydia went online and

819
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,440
I was trying to find this video. I was trying

820
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,440
to find where Lydia talked about this, but apparently Lydia

821
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,119
went online. She did some kind of live or whatever

822
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,119
where she talked about Joshua's death, and in Kim's words,

823
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,639
Lydia went online to cry about Joshua, which I felt

824
00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:22,960
was kind of dismissive, dismissive and rude. But Lydia went

825
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,039
online said some things about Joshua and his death and

826
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:32,000
then made some inappropriate speculations about how Joshua's death affected

827
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:35,199
not only Kim, but Kim and Barry's marriage and the

828
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,400
rest of the family. And in Kim's opinion, she didn't

829
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,400
feel like Lydia had a right to do that or

830
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,760
should have said any of those things publicly. And so

831
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,280
Kim is telling us as the viewers, that she's not

832
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,840
really happy with the fact that Lydia brought all this up.

833
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,639
But in the car when they're talking about it, you know,

834
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,920
Lydia says something like, I feel like we didn't have

835
00:42:58,599 --> 00:43:03,119
the right tools, were equipped to deal with Joshua's death,

836
00:43:03,159 --> 00:43:05,079
Like I didn't know how to really talk about it.

837
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,159
I felt like we couldn't really talk about it in

838
00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:10,320
the family, And Kim says something like.

839
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: I didn't have the tools. I didn't have, I wasn't equipped,

840
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,559
And she said it took her a year to be

841
00:43:16,599 --> 00:43:19,599
able to even talk about it at all after the death,

842
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,840
so she was unable to help her children with that,

843
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,199
which she acknowledges. And I don't remember when it was

844
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,320
in this most recent episode, but she is trying to

845
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,440
make the connection between what happened how she shut down

846
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,599
and how that impacted her children. And she even says,

847
00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:36,920
as she's talking to the camera, I realize I hurt

848
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,280
my kids. Yeah, and that's the hardest part of all

849
00:43:40,519 --> 00:43:43,800
is knowing the impact on my children based on what

850
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,239
happened with Joshua. And you know what, I feel that

851
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:52,400
from Kim, and I believe that when she's speaking about it.

852
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,960
I think it makes perfect sense to me that she

853
00:43:57,039 --> 00:44:00,920
went through something as traumatic as the death of Joshua,

854
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:06,000
which she is responsible for. She didn't mean it, obviously,

855
00:44:06,119 --> 00:44:08,800
but she was the one driving the car that ran

856
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,719
over Joshua. And of course that would change you for

857
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,960
the rest of your life. But meanwhile, you have two

858
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,400
thousand other children that you have to homeschool and deprive

859
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,559
of sugar, and so you have to put on your

860
00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:23,960
game face and you've got to tamp it all down

861
00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:28,880
and you can't sit in the bottomless pain of that.

862
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,719
I can't even imagine as a mother, Yeah, for sure,

863
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,280
I can't even imagine the bottomless pain of having to

864
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:41,079
sit with what happened because of you. Yeah, and so, yeah,

865
00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:44,039
she wasn't equipped to take care of herself. She probably

866
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:47,559
never did, and she certainly wasn't equipped to help her children.

867
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,960
And I just want to comment regarding Lydia getting up

868
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,599
on a live and sharing her perspective. She is one

869
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,000
hundred percent entitled to do that. That's Lydia's story too. Yes,

870
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:03,000
every he was impacted by that. And just because Kim,

871
00:45:03,079 --> 00:45:06,599
you're still dealing with guilt and shame around that doesn't

872
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:09,199
mean that the other people around you aren't trying to

873
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,599
work through this, put some words on it, witness it,

874
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,039
and process it. It's a good thing Lydia did that.

875
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,599
She I don't think she did that for clout.

876
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 4: No, I'm sure she.

877
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,679
Speaker 1: Didn't do that like for fame. I think she's talking

878
00:45:21,679 --> 00:45:25,280
about a very deep issue for her. Yes, that's wounded

879
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,360
her that she's healing from, and that's a good thing.

880
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: I agree. And that was like my issue with this

881
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,880
is that, you know, Kim is saying all this stuff

882
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,760
about how she understands that it was hard on her

883
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,760
kids and she understands that she wasn't there for them

884
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,519
and didn't give them the tools and stuff to talk

885
00:45:40,519 --> 00:45:44,480
about Joshua, but at the same time is upset that

886
00:45:44,639 --> 00:45:48,039
Lydia even had the goal to talk about it publicly

887
00:45:48,559 --> 00:45:51,920
and to make speculations and like, you know, Lydia was

888
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,039
a kid when this happened. She was really young, but

889
00:45:55,119 --> 00:45:59,039
she could still witness the damage that it caused, not

890
00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:02,000
only to her but to her parents, to her mom.

891
00:46:02,039 --> 00:46:04,239
Like she can still witness that and perceive that and

892
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,679
still comment about that, Like she as an adult, is

893
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,320
allowed to say these things. And that's why I was

894
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,800
trying to find where this video was because I wanted.

895
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:15,199
Speaker 1: To know you probably told her to take it down.

896
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,960
I'm wonder after his conversation, maybe she took it down.

897
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,639
Speaker 2: And I was like looking on Reddit and like nobody

898
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:20,559
was talking about it.

899
00:46:20,639 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't remember anybody mentioning this.

900
00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:25,119
Speaker 2: No, not at all. So if anybody has any kind

901
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:29,920
of like physical evidence about this conversation of what Lydia

902
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:33,360
talked about, police, send us a DM or something, because

903
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,519
I want to know what exactly Lydia said that made.

904
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 4: Kim so upset.

905
00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:40,679
Speaker 2: But Kim in this episode says Lydia even bringing this

906
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,159
up opened up the wound again for her, and I'm like, well, yeah,

907
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,119
it's a wound for everyone.

908
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: Of the situation. Have you ever heard the saying that

909
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,360
you're only as sick as your secrets? So there's a

910
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,519
part of this that Kim is trying to keep secret

911
00:46:57,519 --> 00:47:00,360
and it's making her sick, and it connects back to

912
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,840
what Ken is trying to show her in that conversation.

913
00:47:03,039 --> 00:47:06,719
It connects back to what Kim herself is telling us

914
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,199
about herself and how she realizes like she's in a

915
00:47:09,199 --> 00:47:11,519
bad spot with her physicality and with all of it.

916
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:14,280
Like you're only as sick as your secrets. You have

917
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,199
a problem when Lydia is speaking out or when Olivia

918
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,599
was speaking out about what you did with the money

919
00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:22,400
and all of the control issues because you want to

920
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,159
hide it. And so more power to Lydia. Honestly, now,

921
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,559
I don't like aspects of what we're seeing with Lydia

922
00:47:29,639 --> 00:47:32,039
and Zach. I think that's a Zach influence. But as

923
00:47:32,039 --> 00:47:34,760
far as this is concerned, more power to Lydia.

924
00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, And like you have to be able

925
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,199
to talk about these kinds of things, and like I

926
00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:42,480
can understand from the parent side, like if Lydia was

927
00:47:42,519 --> 00:47:46,360
saying some things that were critical about Kim and about

928
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,039
Barry and about their parenting and about how they handled this,

929
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,800
I can understand as a parent being like almost offended

930
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,360
or like insecure about that being like oh, well, like

931
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,400
I thought, I did the best that I could because

932
00:47:57,519 --> 00:47:58,320
it is hurting too.

933
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: But that's her story, that her life, that's her perspective.

934
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:02,280
She's entitled to.

935
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 2: That exactly, And as a parent, you have to be

936
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,320
able to sit in the way of all of that

937
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,559
because it's not easy, and every parent makes mistakes, every

938
00:48:09,559 --> 00:48:13,679
parent fugs up. It's just the nature of life. And

939
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,760
you know, to Kim's credit, at the end of this episode,

940
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,159
she does say she feels bad that Lydia feels more

941
00:48:21,199 --> 00:48:24,000
comfortable to open up to the Internet than to her.

942
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,719
But it's like, well, Kim, this is the bed that

943
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,360
you made, Like this is how you parented your kids.

944
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,400
You didn't cultivate an environment where they could talk to

945
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,639
you about anything. And I don't even know if it

946
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,079
was all like in a malicious way, like in a

947
00:48:39,159 --> 00:48:41,679
sense of like Kim got mad at her kids for

948
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,480
talking about it. I just think that this is how

949
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,119
their family was. They just never talked about shit, They

950
00:48:46,159 --> 00:48:48,920
never talked about anything hard. They just swept everything under

951
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,320
the rugs and acted like everything was okay.

952
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: And now you have an Ethan and now you have

953
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,639
a Lydia. Even in this moment in the car. When

954
00:48:56,679 --> 00:49:01,679
she's answering Kim, she's stamm she's flubbing up her words.

955
00:49:01,679 --> 00:49:03,360
I'm like, what are you saying? Like you're not making

956
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,199
any sense. I think I know what you're trying to say,

957
00:49:05,199 --> 00:49:07,280
but like you can't communicate either.

958
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: No nobody can. And like you have Mariah running off

959
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,960
to Montana, you have Micah being no contact basically and

960
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,079
not wanting to be a part of the show and

961
00:49:16,159 --> 00:49:19,199
just living his own life. And even Hosannah, like where's Hosannah?

962
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: Who's Hosannah?

963
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,159
Speaker 2: Like there's still this eldest child that wants nothing to

964
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,320
do with the show and probably the family, and so

965
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,800
like this is what you created is so now you're

966
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:31,280
gonna have to.

967
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 4: Deal with it.

968
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 2: Yep. But I don't think Kim's dealing with it. I

969
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,719
think she's drinking her problems away. That's just my opinion.

970
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:40,119
And so in the preview for next week, we're going

971
00:49:40,159 --> 00:49:44,239
to continue this conversation between Kim and Lydia in the car,

972
00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:48,480
which I do look forward to hearing more about. Kim

973
00:49:48,599 --> 00:49:52,920
also says in the preview that Zach and Lydia don't

974
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,320
seem to see a problem with them going to other

975
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,960
people and telling them how they should live their life

976
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:01,960
and trying to correct their behavior.

977
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,079
Speaker 4: And I'm just like, oh my god.

978
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: Can you believe it?

979
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 2: Oh, I can't believe these little towrps have not even

980
00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:11,159
been married a year and they're already lecturing people there

981
00:50:11,159 --> 00:50:14,599
and that's early. Yep, this is wild. We have Barry

982
00:50:14,639 --> 00:50:16,559
going on a blind date with some skinny blonde chick

983
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,400
nobody cares. And then we have this conversation between Isaac,

984
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:25,280
Ethan and Kim where Isaac actually says when Zach was

985
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,360
in Montana, he would only talk with the girls. He

986
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,679
didn't want to talk with anybody else, and he was

987
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,719
telling Mariah.

988
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: He would only talk to the girls when Isaac wasn't there.

989
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:36,199
Speaker 2: Oh, was that what it was?

990
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,559
Speaker 1: That's what it was. Isaac would go somewhere and then

991
00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:42,599
he would talk to the girls, which is interesting because

992
00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:47,000
Isaac would stick up for his sisters and his girlfriend

993
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,360
for sure, and is very protective of his family. So

994
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,079
Zach waits for Isaac to leave and then starts lecturing

995
00:50:54,119 --> 00:50:58,159
Mariah uh huh on what she plays in terms of music,

996
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,519
the things that she has in her house and how

997
00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:02,199
it's inappropriate, et cetera.

998
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 2: Yikes, And when Isaac is telling this to Ethan and Kim.

999
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,679
Ethan is getting mad just listening to that, and Kim

1000
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,760
is like, well, then let's fucking talk to them. So

1001
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,400
we're gonna have a family intervention.

1002
00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:18,079
Speaker 1: I love that good. I just for me. It's a

1003
00:51:18,119 --> 00:51:22,480
personal issue, like the hypocrisy of some Christians, and it's

1004
00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:25,440
not just Christians. It's like a lot of religions, but

1005
00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:28,280
like it's my paradigm, so like I can.

1006
00:51:28,159 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 4: Speak to it.

1007
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:34,159
Speaker 1: But Jesus said, do not judge. Jesus said, don't worry

1008
00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:36,159
about the speck in your brother's eye when you got

1009
00:51:36,159 --> 00:51:38,559
a big old redwood up in your eye. And then

1010
00:51:38,599 --> 00:51:40,440
you say that to a Christian and they're like, yes,

1011
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,199
but Paul says you have to righteously judge. I'm don't judge.

1012
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:46,760
Paul's not Jesus. Paul claims to have met Jesus on

1013
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,679
the road to Damascus. I mean, and you can believe

1014
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,400
that or not or whatever, but like, what did Jesus

1015
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,440
say about that? He said, don't judge, period. Yeah, there

1016
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,480
wasn't anything else about that. Christians can't seem to get

1017
00:51:56,519 --> 00:51:58,480
that through their head that they're not supposed to sit

1018
00:51:58,519 --> 00:52:00,920
in judgment of other people like that's a that's an

1019
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:05,000
actual antichrist sin. But you've got Christians like Zach and

1020
00:52:05,079 --> 00:52:09,280
Lydia who are like zeygots, no worldly experience, purporting to

1021
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,239
try and tell other people how to live their life. Obviously,

1022
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,639
I'm triggered. I just hate that so much.

1023
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 2: I hate it too because I've always made that argument

1024
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,199
too to other Christians, because you know, I'm a resident gay, right,

1025
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,760
so I'm always getting judged from Christian people, you know,

1026
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,480
like you're living in sin and you're blah, and I'm like, okay, but.

1027
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,119
Speaker 1: Jesus never spoke about homosexuality.

1028
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,119
Speaker 2: No, he did not. And also, why are you judging

1029
00:52:32,159 --> 00:52:34,880
other people? Why do you sit on this high horse

1030
00:52:35,559 --> 00:52:38,159
and look down on people and be like I live

1031
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,800
the right way, I live the godly way, and like

1032
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,639
I'm just going to be inappropriate because this is the

1033
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,159
end of the episode right now. But I texted you today,

1034
00:52:45,199 --> 00:52:48,400
I'm like, Lydia, why are you judging people when you're

1035
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,599
married to the chase man I've ever seen in my life?

1036
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,920
Why are you judging people when you live with this

1037
00:52:55,039 --> 00:52:57,280
marriage with this guy who's like telling you what to do?

1038
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,239
And I don't know the fact that he was like

1039
00:52:59,559 --> 00:53:02,559
only to talking to girls when Isaac was not around.

1040
00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:06,000
I'm just like, why because they're as.

1041
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 1: Because Isaac will get triggered because Isaac got into a

1042
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,519
fight with Micah because Micah didn't check his girl. And

1043
00:53:12,599 --> 00:53:14,719
so if Isaac is there and Lydia is not checking

1044
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,920
her man, he's going to do something about it. And

1045
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,079
guess what. Zach is not going to come out the

1046
00:53:19,199 --> 00:53:21,840
victor in that particular fight. It's going to be Isaac.

1047
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:26,039
He knows that typical Christian misogyny, and so he's waiting

1048
00:53:26,039 --> 00:53:28,079
for Isaac to leave and then he's going to start

1049
00:53:28,159 --> 00:53:30,880
lecturing the girls. Just give me five minutes with that boy, Dude,

1050
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,639
give five minutes. It's not even that I know more

1051
00:53:33,679 --> 00:53:36,320
scripture than all of these people put together. It's just

1052
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,920
like so hip a critical really is.

1053
00:53:40,119 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 2: And now Lydia and Zach are moving to Colorado. They've

1054
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,920
left Caro, and people on Reddit are like, oh my god, yay,

1055
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,599
Lydia is away from her toxic family. But I'm just like, okay, great,

1056
00:53:49,679 --> 00:53:55,280
now she's gonna be with Zach's judge Christian lady's family.

1057
00:53:55,639 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 1: She's going to be isolated. Okay, great, Yeah, see what

1058
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,320
happens in ten years, Lydia like where you're going to.

1059
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 4: Be, Yeah, hopefully not married.

1060
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,639
Speaker 1: It's hopefully not married, hopefully like living your best sexual life.

1061
00:54:07,679 --> 00:54:09,320
You seem to like sex a lot, and every time

1062
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,559
you mention it, like, Zach seems disgusted. In fact, and

1063
00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:14,480
we didn't even talk about it because when they had

1064
00:54:14,519 --> 00:54:19,199
the little social event with Zach and Lydia and Isaac

1065
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,400
and Kaylin and they're playing their game, Isaac tells us

1066
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,840
that in the first week of Lydia and Zach's marriage,

1067
00:54:26,199 --> 00:54:28,559
they broke the bed, so they must have been fucking

1068
00:54:28,639 --> 00:54:31,320
a lot. But then we get the to the camera

1069
00:54:31,679 --> 00:54:35,360
interview with Zach and Lydia, and Lydia's like, yeah, I

1070
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,079
was going in for a kiss. I was leaning into

1071
00:54:38,159 --> 00:54:41,880
him and he fell and we fell onto the bed

1072
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,920
and it broke. And I'm just imagining that, like she

1073
00:54:45,079 --> 00:54:48,039
leans in because she wants to kiss him or do

1074
00:54:48,119 --> 00:54:51,519
whatever sexually with him, and he literally jumps away, I know,

1075
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,119
so hard that he breaks the bed. That's all I

1076
00:54:55,159 --> 00:54:55,840
got from that.

1077
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,119
Speaker 2: That's what I got too. But of course Isaac and

1078
00:54:58,199 --> 00:55:01,119
Kaylin just think they were fucked or whatever, and they're

1079
00:55:01,159 --> 00:55:03,719
giggling about it. And Isaac's like, you know, being a brother,

1080
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,400
and He's like, I don't want to know how they

1081
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,199
broke the bed. I'm just gonna fix it for him

1082
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:08,440
because I'm a good brother and.

1083
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,199
Speaker 1: He broke it pulling away from his wife. Yeah, like

1084
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:12,239
just think about that.

1085
00:55:12,519 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 2: Well, and in that couple's game, I forgot to mention too.

1086
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,880
One of the biggest things that they argue about is

1087
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:19,559
when to have babies. And it's because Zach doesn't want

1088
00:55:19,559 --> 00:55:22,000
to have babies right now, but Lydia does.

1089
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,599
Speaker 1: Because it requires penis and vagina sex.

1090
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 2: It requires him coming in vagina.

1091
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:31,599
Speaker 1: Sorry, we gotta go. My sciatica is singing. I'm getting inappropriate. Like,

1092
00:55:31,639 --> 00:55:36,440
it's just so many red flags yet flag in for totally. Well, Beatrice,

1093
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,000
this was fun. Is there anything else that we should

1094
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,199
say to these beautiful raccoons before we get up on

1095
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:42,239
out of here.

1096
00:55:42,519 --> 00:55:44,559
Speaker 2: Well, if you love our podcast, please do us a

1097
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:46,920
solid go to your favorite podcast platform and leave us

1098
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,039
a glowing five star review. Really helps us grow the

1099
00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:52,119
pod and we would really appreciate it, so thank you.

1100
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,079
Speaker 1: Just a disclaimer, I'm a Christian and if I offended anybody,

1101
00:55:56,199 --> 00:55:58,639
I'm sorry. I'm just talking about the things that Jesus

1102
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,559
himself railed against when he talked about organized religion.

1103
00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 4: That's all.

1104
00:56:03,039 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes it just get upset, Sorry if I triggered. Anybody

1105
00:56:05,599 --> 00:56:08,199
is nothing but love over here. We're gonna be back

1106
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,239
next week to talk sister wives and other things. Until then,

1107
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,320
please do not forget that we have nothing but love

1108
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,079
for you, and please a mighty