1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the six hundred and 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:08,240 eighty first episode of the Geekers podcast AK the Wake 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,039 Up Dad Man AK and nives Out Story Review. I 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,679 am the Heretic Tress now and I'm joined. 5 00:00:14,359 --> 00:00:17,879 Speaker 2: By I'm the Scooby Doo Taylor Field. 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,519 Speaker 1: Yes, lady, gentlemen, we are here doing this again. We 7 00:00:20,559 --> 00:00:23,280 did this. I can remember when nys Out two or 8 00:00:23,359 --> 00:00:25,800 I you know, I am one of those people that 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,760 obviously we kind of make fun of the titles like 10 00:00:28,199 --> 00:00:31,839 Rogue Want a Star Wars Story, Ballerina john Wickworlds or whatnot. 11 00:00:32,399 --> 00:00:34,200 I get why they do that with nives Out. I 12 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,159 am super guilty if I just call all these still 13 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,159 like glass Onions, Nie Out two and this is still 14 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,719 nives Out three. So I'm very guilty of that. So 15 00:00:41,719 --> 00:00:43,719 if you hear we refer that many times, I apologize. 16 00:00:43,759 --> 00:00:46,600 Try my best, Storry Ryan Johnson, but you know, we 17 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,399 can only do so much. But yeah, we did this 18 00:00:48,399 --> 00:00:50,479 a couple of years ago, whenever Glass Onion came out. 19 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,039 That we did get early. As I've said before, where 20 00:00:53,039 --> 00:00:56,600 we okay, so three years ago? Now, yeah, what we 21 00:00:56,679 --> 00:00:59,880 get for Netflix is all over the place. I was 22 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,399 super surprised about Frankenstein. We got Frankenstein. It was only 23 00:01:02,439 --> 00:01:03,960 out for three wee because we got the second week, 24 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,239 but still we got it. And then we got like 25 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,879 that Rebecca Ferguson Terras movie that played for a long time, 26 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,840 and every time I checked, I would see like one 27 00:01:10,879 --> 00:01:13,480 person in some of these showing sometimes never. But then 28 00:01:13,519 --> 00:01:15,799 there's some things like the Killer other stuff. I don't 29 00:01:15,799 --> 00:01:17,480 know if we're gonna to get the Stranger of Things finale. 30 00:01:17,519 --> 00:01:19,319 So it's all over. But like it was a couple 31 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,719 of years ago, here we are again where we got 32 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,000 a Wake Up dead Man review here or I guess 33 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,319 the screening, so we are gonna be reviewing it and 34 00:01:26,359 --> 00:01:29,120 people are wondering because even I think it's on, like Patreon, 35 00:01:29,159 --> 00:01:31,000 Clay like he's lives in a bigger city than us, 36 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,120 and he didn't even I don't think he's got it. 37 00:01:33,159 --> 00:01:35,439 Even Katie from Guay, she was looking for screens she 38 00:01:35,439 --> 00:01:37,400 didn't get so kind of I would love to know 39 00:01:37,519 --> 00:01:41,599 their their like marketing tactics to like Katie and Clay 40 00:01:41,599 --> 00:01:43,640 who live in these bigger cities versus US as much 41 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,079 smaller than them, and we again they don't. I really 42 00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:48,439 don't know a flix. They're all over. So that's why 43 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,560 we are going to do two versions of this where 44 00:01:50,599 --> 00:01:54,239 right now this episode is just purely the uh non spoilers. 45 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,400 If you listen on audio on YouTube, we will put 46 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,280 a spoilers version up because that's early and sometimes just 47 00:01:59,319 --> 00:02:01,120 do a bit better of our early reviews on YouTube 48 00:02:01,159 --> 00:02:02,640 that are spoils to be able to see them. They're 49 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,560 seeking those out different algorithms, right, So if you really 50 00:02:05,599 --> 00:02:08,400 want to, it will be on YouTube within the twenty 51 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:09,960 four hours, So if you've seen the movie, go check 52 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,840 that out. If not, we will drop up the second 53 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,400 part of this episode, you know, half of it in December. 54 00:02:16,719 --> 00:02:18,599 December second or fifth, or whenever it comes out on 55 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,039 Netflix will drop that same day. So we're gonna do 56 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,960 twenty five thirty minutes somewhere around there of complete non 57 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,719 spoilers overall thoughts. So if you want our opinion and 58 00:02:26,759 --> 00:02:28,800 don't want to get spoiled any of the reveals or 59 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,159 the cameos or like the Austed Result revelation, we're not 60 00:02:33,199 --> 00:02:35,360 gonna do any of that, so don't worry. And if 61 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,080 it is, we're not live, so we can you know, 62 00:02:37,199 --> 00:02:40,599 chop anything out. But Tieri Phield, give a brief history 63 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,680 of your you know, thoughts on the Knives Out history 64 00:02:44,759 --> 00:02:47,159 or Knives Out franchise, your history on the franchise, not 65 00:02:47,199 --> 00:02:50,319 your history and history, your thoughts on the franchise, and 66 00:02:50,719 --> 00:02:52,919 then you can streamline into what you thought about Wake 67 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:53,520 Up Dead Man. 68 00:02:55,439 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I feel like my my history with 69 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,840 this just kind of goes back to, Uh, I guess 70 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,840 just kind of joined the bandwagon with you guys all 71 00:03:04,879 --> 00:03:07,360 being like hyped for it. I have to go back 72 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,599 and listen to the episodes of where I was with 73 00:03:09,759 --> 00:03:11,039 that first movie came out. 74 00:03:11,479 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: It was member's review, so I wasn't on that bandwag. 75 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: I don't remember if I was on it, to be honest, 76 00:03:16,479 --> 00:03:19,039 I just I feel like Dylan's spirit like. 77 00:03:20,439 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: On that review KD. Here we go. So this was 78 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,879 twenty nineteen. No, I feel like this is you. The 79 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,120 title is Nis Out review. Ryan Johnson strikes back. I 80 00:03:29,159 --> 00:03:34,479 feel like, oh maybe not. Okay, yeah, I thought it 81 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,199 might be, but maybe they'd be more on the thumbnow 82 00:03:36,199 --> 00:03:39,560 and on the title. That episode was actually just Kirklin 83 00:03:39,639 --> 00:03:41,400 and Dylan, So there you go. And I can't remember 84 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,800 that was twenty nineteen, so I guess what. So I 85 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,159 had Logan born November, so I was probably in the 86 00:03:47,159 --> 00:03:49,159 time where I was I was being picky and choosy 87 00:03:49,159 --> 00:03:50,800 with what I was seeing. I don't know what you 88 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,439 were up to, but yeah, you and me were not 89 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,280 on that first nice out review. We were on the 90 00:03:54,319 --> 00:03:55,000 second with. 91 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: You, me and Dylan, So I remember that one. 92 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, we weren't there for the original. 93 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: You know, was the original also theatrical. 94 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,199 Speaker 1: Here that was just pure theatrical. And then Netflix did 95 00:04:04,199 --> 00:04:06,120 the thing where they bought it for two and three, 96 00:04:06,159 --> 00:04:08,759 and I think four is being talked about right now. 97 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,400 I think they're gonna wait and see the reception and 98 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,680 like any money or views this one does obviously. 99 00:04:13,319 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 2: So right, well, yeah, I just watching that first one. 100 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,480 I really really liked it. When when I got around 101 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,480 to watching it, it was a really really good time. 102 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,800 And yeah, it's just something that these who done it 103 00:04:27,879 --> 00:04:30,120 kind of movies I do enjoy, but not all the 104 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,000 time are they done very well. If you look at 105 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,720 like Murder on the Oriente Express or Death and the Nile, 106 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,800 or even though there's a third one which is like Murder. 107 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: There's other ones who can name it. It's just that franchise. 108 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,279 That franchise is awful, you. 109 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: Know it is, but I feel like it was just 110 00:04:44,199 --> 00:04:46,639 kind of like consistent and like at the same time 111 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:47,360 as this one. 112 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's comparable, big cast and you got Kenneth 113 00:04:50,439 --> 00:04:53,279 Brown not doing the whole Yeah. I've still never seen 114 00:04:53,319 --> 00:04:55,759 a single one of those, So at some point I 115 00:04:55,759 --> 00:04:58,000 don't have to dive in. But not today. 116 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, not today. It's again it has to be done good. 117 00:05:03,199 --> 00:05:05,800 And one of the things that I liked about Knives 118 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,879 out And maybe it's it's present in that first one, 119 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,600 it's more present in the second one. I feel like 120 00:05:11,639 --> 00:05:13,519 they dial it back a little bit in this one, 121 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,040 which I'm happy with. But he has this innocence to 122 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,519 him where he's just he's a very cute character as 123 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,639 a detective, and I really really like that. And there's 124 00:05:22,759 --> 00:05:25,519 just a real good blend in these movies where you 125 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,319 have the serious notes and then the comedic beats to 126 00:05:29,439 --> 00:05:35,920 it too, and just these really extra flamboyant personality types 127 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,920 and them just like, really, here's your character, but like 128 00:05:40,199 --> 00:05:42,279 bump it up to a ten and so like really 129 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,920 just run with it. And so I really like how 130 00:05:44,959 --> 00:05:49,439 you get you get that from each different character, because 131 00:05:49,439 --> 00:05:52,439 each different character that you get in these movies, they're 132 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,279 all very, very different, and they play there. I don't 133 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,360 want to say stereotype, because they're all very they're not 134 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,680 even stereotypes, they're just very. 135 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: Sometimes. 136 00:06:04,199 --> 00:06:06,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it just feels like yesterday we watched Glass Onion, 137 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,879 and that one is definitely, like I will say that now, 138 00:06:09,879 --> 00:06:11,160 it's my least favorite. 139 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,519 Speaker 1: Of these so far, even after the third. 140 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: After the third, it definitely felt more like it was 141 00:06:17,959 --> 00:06:21,879 in tune with the first one. And there's a few 142 00:06:21,879 --> 00:06:24,120 other things they'll say and when we continue into the 143 00:06:24,199 --> 00:06:26,560 non spoilers without that third one. But yeah, the second 144 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,480 one just felt a little bit too grandiose for my liking. 145 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,720 I liked the small scale aspect of it. Uh, And 146 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,000 so that's where I put the third one or the 147 00:06:37,079 --> 00:06:39,759 second one, kind of at the bottom of the barrel 148 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,639 here and again it was just a little excessively comedic 149 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,600 and clumsy silly, if that makes sense. Like it's just 150 00:06:46,639 --> 00:06:49,360 a little bit too much. But I have to rewatch it, 151 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:50,959 and i'd like to rewatch. 152 00:06:51,879 --> 00:06:53,759 Speaker 1: I thought you said you just rewatched Glass on You. 153 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 2: When I say that. 154 00:06:56,319 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: You two the second goal, I thought you just said 155 00:06:58,079 --> 00:06:58,519 you just. 156 00:06:58,439 --> 00:07:01,439 Speaker 2: Rewatched it, but I'd have to rewatch it. 157 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,519 Speaker 1: Okay, maybe I heard that. Maybe I heard that. 158 00:07:03,639 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I have to rewatch it, and I'd 159 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,480 have to watch the first one again too, just to 160 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,399 kind of like refeel how I am on those movies. 161 00:07:11,399 --> 00:07:13,399 But I just remember having that first movie and a 162 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,920 really good standing in my mind and just having a 163 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,879 real good impression with it. So that's the one that 164 00:07:18,879 --> 00:07:21,000 I'm gonna have to bump up the queue here soon 165 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:27,439 and revisit. Yeah, this one, Oh, this one, this one 166 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:32,160 was great. Yeah, this one. This was an absolute treat, 167 00:07:33,079 --> 00:07:36,439 And like we chatted about briefly, like it definitely is 168 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,920 longer than the other ones, and there is a bit 169 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,600 of a slow burn in, you know, a period of 170 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,680 this movie, but I feel like it does a good 171 00:07:45,759 --> 00:07:48,399 job at kind of paying off. I was really happy 172 00:07:48,439 --> 00:07:51,879 with the way things kind of concluded in this movie. 173 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,519 And yeah, I think that they did a I think 174 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,480 that they did a pretty good job with it. It 175 00:07:57,519 --> 00:08:03,839 was it was something that the Yeah, it was something 176 00:08:03,879 --> 00:08:07,199 that was an interesting story and it was told in 177 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,600 a different way from the other films too, which I 178 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,600 kind of liked as well. And the way that they 179 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,240 kind of like circle back, I guess is what i'd 180 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,360 is how I would put it, So I don't know 181 00:08:18,399 --> 00:08:26,720 if that makes sense kind of any there, No, I'll 182 00:08:26,759 --> 00:08:27,920 save it for spoilers. 183 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,519 Speaker 1: Well, so I still got some other stuff talking. 184 00:08:30,519 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: Or non spoilers, non spoilers. 185 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,639 Speaker 1: Well we're in spot on spoilers now, we're non spoilers now. 186 00:08:36,039 --> 00:08:39,759 Don't worry people. The no spoilers don't look scary. So yeah, 187 00:08:39,799 --> 00:08:42,120 my history is I yeah, I don't remember why I 188 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,639 didn't see the first one. I think I liked all 189 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,039 the trailers enough, but uh saw later after the fact. 190 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,519 I think it's one that like more as time has 191 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,360 gone on, because I think the first time people really 192 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,080 just talked up like this best movie year, best this 193 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,200 best that, even like oh best Ryan Johnson movie, which 194 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,639 I disagree is still like so they talked about it. 195 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:01,879 So I think when I saw, I was like, oh, yeah, 196 00:09:01,919 --> 00:09:04,320 that's that was like really good. Actually I'll say I'll 197 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,480 say it was really good, but not to me best 198 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,440 movie or people were talking about for Oscars. I don't know, 199 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,519 like I can't really get on board with that, but 200 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,080 I saw it and then watch again. I think yesterday 201 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,000 May for the third time, maybe say my figure is 202 00:09:16,039 --> 00:09:17,399 the third time. I think there's been another time. I 203 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,519 do think it gets better and better with the rewatch. 204 00:09:19,639 --> 00:09:22,279 I still, like I said, don't think it's Johnson's best movie. 205 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,919 I still don't have it up there as like one 206 00:09:23,919 --> 00:09:25,759 of the all time greats for me, But I understand 207 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,320 what people do. I think Daniel Craig is always great 208 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,320 in these roles, right, and even this one did spoil 209 00:09:30,399 --> 00:09:32,480 some thoughts, like if they do a fourth one or 210 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,600 a fifth one, I will be there because Ben one 211 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,200 Blanc is. He's a fun character, right, and it's definitely 212 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,360 fun to see Daniel Craig and this, like obviously Bond 213 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,559 is over now, but that was always the fun thing 214 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,679 going back and forth between that, right if getting like 215 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,720 the hard edge Bond and then getting this very kind 216 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,960 of you know, goofy but on a dumb sense, which 217 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,759 is kind of goofy, a little more light hearted detective 218 00:09:52,799 --> 00:09:54,720 who does have a serious side, but nowhere near as 219 00:09:54,759 --> 00:09:57,600 you know, James Vond Double seven. So that was always fun. 220 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,720 And he's great in this like he's great the other ones. 221 00:09:59,759 --> 00:10:02,639 It's like it's kind of like a non secord, right, 222 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,279 Like I think anytime he's gonna begin these, he's gonna deliver. 223 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,960 So really enjoyed the first one. I agree with mo. 224 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,480 I agree with like everyone that has this take as 225 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,600 far as the first one is better than the second one. 226 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,600 But I don't have the big drop off like I 227 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,080 think for Tat it's a big drop off. And I 228 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,080 see other people. When I looked at the letterbox again 229 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,840 to day, I was like, Okay, some people went from 230 00:10:20,879 --> 00:10:23,240 like a four to like a two, like I'm Knives 231 00:10:23,279 --> 00:10:24,759 Out to me is like a on a letter box, 232 00:10:24,799 --> 00:10:26,320 like a four point five. I think it's probably an 233 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,000 eight point five and the the ranking wise, But for 234 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,679 nine or glass Onion, to me, it's like a seven 235 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,240 to seven point five. Like it's a bit of a 236 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,559 drop off, but not as much. And that's where it's 237 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,480 interesting with this movie where I will say that this 238 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:42,960 is my least favorite of the trilogy, so and I yeah, 239 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,919 I think they're still all good. But I think what's 240 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,519 interesting is Knives Out is like a big blend. I 241 00:10:48,519 --> 00:10:50,919 feel like there's lots of drama and then lots of comedy. Right, 242 00:10:50,879 --> 00:10:52,639 it feels like a split where I think you're right, 243 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,120 Glass Onion is way more on the comedic side. It's 244 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,879 where way more on the stereotypical side. You have very 245 00:10:57,919 --> 00:11:01,679 comedic characters between Nordon and Kate Hudson, and like, there's 246 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,480 just very very joyful type of movie, even though there's 247 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,799 like a mystery going on, right, So you got that 248 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,600 going where this I think is this still has humor. 249 00:11:10,639 --> 00:11:12,879 I think it starts to lose humor as it goes on. 250 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,960 But this definitely feels the most serious out of the three. 251 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,840 Like it feels like it does hit on the knives 252 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,519 out but wake up dead Man. At times you're going 253 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,360 for stretch where there's no laughs, especially near the I 254 00:11:24,399 --> 00:11:26,080 know they do the revelations, but even if you look 255 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,559 at glass Onion when Ben weoll Bloc's doing the whole 256 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,720 revelation speech, there's that Kate Hudson me like, oh, like 257 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,399 when he's like, oh, it's so dumb. She's like yeah, 258 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:35,960 but it's so dumb. It's so smart. He's like, no, 259 00:11:36,039 --> 00:11:38,600 it's just dumb. Like there's even moments there where in 260 00:11:38,639 --> 00:11:41,360 this revelation there's like one moment that is very funny, 261 00:11:41,399 --> 00:11:44,120 but it's very serious. Lots of stuff going on, and 262 00:11:44,159 --> 00:11:47,240 it might be I wonder just because they're tackling religion 263 00:11:47,399 --> 00:11:49,279 and faith. If that's why Johnson wanted to take that 264 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,720 approach of Okay, we're not gonna have it as funny, 265 00:11:51,759 --> 00:11:55,200 there's gonna be which I appreciate this movie. There's spiritual stuff, 266 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,559 but it didn't feel preachy either way. Didn't feel preachy 267 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,559 for people that aren't into religion and didn't feel preaching 268 00:12:00,639 --> 00:12:02,840 for people that are. It had their two characters, which 269 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,200 would be Josh O'Connor and then Daniel Craig that are 270 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,480 kind of cemented in where they are on a faith 271 00:12:07,519 --> 00:12:09,480 based thing. And that's another thing I'll say with this 272 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,279 is I'll be very curious, especially someone I think he'll 273 00:12:12,279 --> 00:12:14,600 still enjoy it, but someone like Maddy who loves Daniel Craig. 274 00:12:15,759 --> 00:12:18,879 It's tough because this movie is two hours and twenty minutes, 275 00:12:18,879 --> 00:12:21,399 so it is very long. But there is very long. 276 00:12:21,519 --> 00:12:24,440 Like I want to say, this movie feels like the 277 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,279 Leastpin while Blank is in it, but it is two 278 00:12:27,279 --> 00:12:29,159 and a half almost two and a half hours, right, 279 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,440 so it kind of makes up for that. But there's 280 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,399 long stretches where Daniel Craig is not on screen at all. 281 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,120 He's not even in the equation, especially like in Just 282 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,720 a myersports to set up of this film setup takes 283 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,240 a long time to get going to like the actual event, 284 00:12:42,399 --> 00:12:46,279 and each movie, like Annada arm Mouse is in the 285 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,639 first one, and then oh, I can't remember her name, 286 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,519 but she was. I can't remember her the actress name. 287 00:12:54,519 --> 00:12:57,080 I'll look it up. But in each movie, he's the lead, 288 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,519 but he kind of has like a co lead right 289 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,200 there with him, and they're also like, oh, he's the 290 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,120 innocent person. So we have that again with Josh Oconnor, 291 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,320 where he's the co lead, but at times he feels 292 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:05,840 like he's the leader of the movie. He doesn't even 293 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,279 feel like he's the co leader. It feels like it's 294 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:09,679 his movie. So I'm wondering if people are gonna take 295 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,799 to that, because there's long times where he is just 296 00:13:12,399 --> 00:13:15,080 on screen and there's no Daniel Craig whatsoever. He's not 297 00:13:15,159 --> 00:13:17,960 factored in the plot. So it's it was an interesting take. 298 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,120 I think they did a great job with the the 299 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,519 people they chose. For the most part, I think it 300 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,399 is just a bit too long, and I think it's 301 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:29,399 it was never convoluted in the sense that I didn't understand. 302 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,000 It just was calm in the sense of they do 303 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,960 a lot of twists and turns. I feel like it's 304 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,600 like today you ever been on the teacup ride. You 305 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,440 guys went to Disneyland. So I think there's always a 306 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,080 point where there's you're having fun time spinning, and then 307 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,279 you get to that point where that you know, what, 308 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,360 we've spanned for too much. And I was kind of 309 00:13:45,399 --> 00:13:48,519 feeling that at the back half where I was understood everything, 310 00:13:48,519 --> 00:13:50,840 they were feeling like give me. But it's just like now, 311 00:13:50,879 --> 00:13:53,000 I think it's almost one too many twists. It's it 312 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,759 just feels like it's like too much birthday. It's like, hey, 313 00:13:55,759 --> 00:13:57,600 I get it, let's get to this point. And I 314 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,399 think there's some stuff that's like a big lead. It's 315 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,240 definitely the most when people make the jokes about Batman 316 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:05,879 or even when glass Onion. I feel like lots of 317 00:14:05,879 --> 00:14:07,879 people thought like, oh, ben well Blanc is just like 318 00:14:07,919 --> 00:14:11,000 got here, he can figure everything else. There's multiple things 319 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,960 that just have to luckily fall in place for ben 320 00:14:14,039 --> 00:14:16,519 Wa to get through this, to like figure it out 321 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,919 and for it to happen. So even though they make 322 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,320 the Scooby joke, it does feel the most far fetched 323 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,279 one to me. And there's some stuff that's very very 324 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,159 I want to say, over the top, but way more 325 00:14:31,039 --> 00:14:34,840 within the or not within the realm of belief of 326 00:14:34,879 --> 00:14:37,799 this world. There's a lot of jumping through hoops. To me, 327 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,080 that was maybe one too many. Maybe would have felt 328 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,799 like that if they shorten it. I don't know, but no, 329 00:14:42,879 --> 00:14:44,840 I think performances are all good. I think there's some 330 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,200 people will talk about the nonspoice here with casting wise 331 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,080 that I was disappointed by. I kind of had that 332 00:14:50,159 --> 00:14:53,000 too with glass Onion. I think Knives Out is the 333 00:14:53,039 --> 00:14:55,519 perfect movie as far as giving all those characters a 334 00:14:55,559 --> 00:14:58,320 moment to shine or I think both glass Onion and 335 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,519 this movie kind of forget about some care. I feel 336 00:15:00,519 --> 00:15:03,879 like we learned nothing about them, and like, like for 337 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,360 I guess this one spot till I throwed out Taylor 338 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,200 Kaylee's Spainey. I could not believe that no one's bad 339 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,919 in this movie. But I was shocked by this character 340 00:15:12,919 --> 00:15:14,320 as far as like I just didn't feel like there 341 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:15,519 was much for it. I felt I could have been 342 00:15:15,559 --> 00:15:18,159 any actress, Like she just came up Alien Romulus, she 343 00:15:18,279 --> 00:15:20,559 was in Priscilla, like she's a big up and comer, 344 00:15:20,879 --> 00:15:23,799 and this role just didn't feel that special. You know, 345 00:15:23,879 --> 00:15:26,360 I feel even Andrew Scott, which I'm a big fan of. 346 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,480 I loved him in uh not so much the James 347 00:15:29,519 --> 00:15:31,600 Wad movies, but I love him a lot of things. 348 00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:33,720 I can't remember that movie did last year with Paul Mesqal, 349 00:15:33,799 --> 00:15:36,480 but I loved him in Fleabag Like I love Andrew 350 00:15:36,519 --> 00:15:39,399 Scott and he's a fun character. But it just feels 351 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,600 like they're for a two hour, twenty minute movie that oh, 352 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:43,759 we're gonna get a lot of time with a lot 353 00:15:43,759 --> 00:15:46,080 of these characters, and we really not really don't but 354 00:15:46,159 --> 00:15:49,240 even Tom saying Church like I liked to, but it 355 00:15:49,279 --> 00:15:53,919 feels like it just we some of these roles. Maybe 356 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,759 they're not getting paid that much, but some of these roles, 357 00:15:55,759 --> 00:15:57,159 I feel like you could just get no names. It 358 00:15:57,159 --> 00:16:00,200 would pretty much be the same, right, So I know, 359 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,519 but yeah, how did you feel about some of these 360 00:16:01,679 --> 00:16:03,240 as we've talked about something the non source of how 361 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,720 about some of these characters? Because you got Josh conn there, 362 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,200 Glenn Co's, uh, Josh Brolin, Me Cunez, Jimmy Renner, Uh, 363 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:15,039 Carrie Washington, Andrew Scott, Kay Spainey, Thomas A and Church. 364 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,960 There's one other person I won't mention because I think 365 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,600 it might be a spool I didn't see, And then 366 00:16:20,639 --> 00:16:22,639 I didn't see that second trader and that second trailer. 367 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,279 Did they reveal the actor that's in like the first 368 00:16:27,679 --> 00:16:30,320 five minutes of this movie. He's in a lot of movies 369 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,639 we cover. I'll just say he's in the Batman. That 370 00:16:33,679 --> 00:16:36,120 will clear it. That actor that's in. 371 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,399 Speaker 2: The Oh yeah, yeah I didn't, So yeah, I. 372 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: Won't say who it is. But I think there's a 373 00:16:40,879 --> 00:16:43,240 couple of fun surprises in here. But yeah, what do 374 00:16:43,279 --> 00:16:45,080 you think for the cast that was announced and shown? 375 00:16:45,679 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: Uh? 376 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: What do you think? Was there anyone particular person that 377 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,360 stood out to you? Well? 378 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,159 Speaker 2: Uh, Thomas Nayden Church, I think was it? 379 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: Uh? 380 00:16:55,639 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: Is it called Daddy's Home? That the one with Little 381 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:02,799 Farrell and Mark Wahlberg. Yes, because he's in there. Well, 382 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,119 I'm pretty sure he's in there. 383 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: What's he doing in that movie? 384 00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:09,039 Speaker 2: Let me just confirm I could be getting it wrong. 385 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:13,680 Uh is he in? 386 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 387 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: He plays he plays Leo, So I'm pretty sure he 388 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,519 plays like Will Ferrell's boss in that movie. And he's 389 00:17:21,519 --> 00:17:24,079 so freaking funny. He's just given Will Ferrell just like 390 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,200 information advice. It's just it was so freaking funny. I 391 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,880 need to revisit that movie anyways. So whenever I see 392 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,880 him in a role, I usually just start to crack 393 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,440 up because he just I find him very funny. How 394 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,480 he's just so serious and he's just got this comedic 395 00:17:39,559 --> 00:17:43,599 kind of gag to him. Also shout outs to his 396 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:55,720 Tarzans or Not George Georgia Jungle George. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, 397 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,559 Jeremy Renner knew that he was in here and his 398 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,319 that like character he plays, Yeah, good timing. The character 399 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:08,319 he plays is such it was really just quirky and 400 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,279 it was making me laugh because I don't think I've 401 00:18:10,279 --> 00:18:12,920 ever seen that actor do this kind of a role before, 402 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:19,200 so that was interesting. And then yeah, Josh Brolin just 403 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,279 was popping off everything with him. But he was really 404 00:18:22,319 --> 00:18:23,119 really good too. 405 00:18:23,759 --> 00:18:25,799 Speaker 1: I have Ben Golden Geeks, I think for sure. Maybe 406 00:18:25,799 --> 00:18:27,960 there's some other people, but Roland for sure, I think 407 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,000 he was. There's two I think for me, Brolin and 408 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:33,519 Glenn Close. Glenn Close was really good as well. Those 409 00:18:33,559 --> 00:18:35,960 to me are kind of the well and seven Josh O'Connor. 410 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,960 I'm not even thinking about him because did you ever 411 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:44,079 see Challengers? Yes? I did Yeah, he's the other lead 412 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:45,799 in that, he's the guy. He's like one of the 413 00:18:45,839 --> 00:18:48,640 three there, and oh yeah, I liked him along that 414 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,240 he was like the breakout star. And he's in Spielberg's 415 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,599 UFO movie next year as well too. I think he's 416 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,160 the lead with Emily Blunt, so I will say that, yeah, 417 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,680 and yeah, maybe I'm discounting it. Glenn Close was great 418 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,559 in this, Josh Brown Tayosa was great, But Josh O'Connor, 419 00:19:01,559 --> 00:19:04,319 who sometimes a lead, He's fantastic. He has like a 420 00:19:04,519 --> 00:19:08,279 very honest charm about him. He's very good at he's 421 00:19:08,319 --> 00:19:10,880 not playing every day guy per se, but every day 422 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,920 almost funny, sarcastic guy. I still think there's some gravitas 423 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,240 his performance, so it's not like a like a Tom 424 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,079 Hanks sort of deal. But man, he's he's really good. 425 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,400 Like I like, obviously after Challenges he got scooped up, 426 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,559 but I can see like this and now I'm looking 427 00:19:23,559 --> 00:19:26,440 more forward to him. Spielberg like he's becoming a really 428 00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:29,119 good not becoming but he's just becoming an actor. Now 429 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,920 when I see his name, I think, now with Challengers 430 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,880 in this, I'll be excited, Like this gets me more 431 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,440 excited for that Spielberg movie now knowing he's one of 432 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,119 the leads, because I just think he's shaped up to 433 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,000 be a really good actor. 434 00:19:39,079 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 2: So mm hmm, yeah, no, for sure. And that's the 435 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,279 other thing too, Like you highlighted the amount of screen 436 00:19:44,319 --> 00:19:46,960 time and development we get with these characters, and I 437 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,720 feel like knives out when you look at that first one. 438 00:19:49,799 --> 00:19:53,640 It's just it's name dropping, like out the wazzoo. All 439 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,839 these big names and and folks that are a part 440 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,000 of this project, and you get that time with each 441 00:19:58,039 --> 00:20:01,240 one and their motives and there there you know the 442 00:20:01,279 --> 00:20:03,279 pros and cons list, and you to go on this 443 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:08,519 journey with a Blanc and just kind of learn more 444 00:20:08,519 --> 00:20:10,920 about it and then glass on you and you you do, 445 00:20:11,039 --> 00:20:13,240 you get that, I guess with those characters. But I'm 446 00:20:13,279 --> 00:20:15,519 just I wasn't as engaged with those characters in the 447 00:20:15,559 --> 00:20:16,160 same way I was. 448 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: The first one. Again, though, I think there's a couple 449 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,000 of characters. You don't though. I think there's a couple 450 00:20:20,039 --> 00:20:22,160 of characters they just kind of leave to the side. 451 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,240 And even like this, like you know, it's not like 452 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,960 a big role, like like why is Mealy Koons the 453 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,799 cop that could have been anybody. 454 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,599 Speaker 2: That was definitely out of place, I'd say. 455 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: Like, it's just you. You get the actors that again, 456 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,200 I'm I'm get your bag, do whatever, and it's fun. 457 00:20:35,279 --> 00:20:36,839 I'm not saying she was bad. No, no one in 458 00:20:36,839 --> 00:20:39,519 this movie is bad. I just thought, like, Okay, Meelikoon 459 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,440 is multiple leading movies, you know, seventies show like probably 460 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,279 gonna be a big media role. It's not really, you know, 461 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,240 it's just she's just kind of there as a cop. 462 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,400 And there's a couple other performances that won't dive too 463 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:51,960 much more too, because I don't want to say the 464 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,839 particular actors name in the case of spoilers, but yeah, 465 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,319 it just feels like they're just kind of there. So 466 00:20:57,599 --> 00:20:59,640 that was one that I was surprised by, kind of 467 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,200 the I don't know limited amount of time that person 468 00:21:02,279 --> 00:21:04,119 was around for, but still good to see him. 469 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 2: So mm hmmmmmm. No, that's true. Yeah, she definitely was 470 00:21:09,519 --> 00:21:12,720 just kind of a little odd being being in there though. 471 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,960 But you're right, everyone delivered and I really enjoyed everyone's 472 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:21,319 performances in this movie. Uh, but it was just there 473 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:26,160 was not enough real focus on on everybody. That would 474 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,559 be my probably one of my only cons here is 475 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,359 just not having the time with every character, and that's 476 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,279 that's where I think they did things differently. I don't 477 00:21:34,279 --> 00:21:36,400 think it's a spoiler, but the way that the main 478 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:41,000 character is narrating as well, I think that kind of 479 00:21:41,039 --> 00:21:43,680 gives them makes them more of the main character than 480 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:44,319 blanc his. 481 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: So like it's a minusports but multiple characters narrate in 482 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,319 the movie at times. So that's where it feels not 483 00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:54,640 like blog like Bloc for the most like this is 484 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,960 the most of me he's ever felt like he's just 485 00:21:56,079 --> 00:21:58,240 kind of there, which is fine because like it's other 486 00:21:58,279 --> 00:22:01,559 people's stories, but yeah, it's strange. I was looking up 487 00:22:01,559 --> 00:22:04,240 because I had to confirm this that I think he 488 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,039 was the about Thomas Saint Church. He was the only 489 00:22:07,079 --> 00:22:09,359 one that came back for George's Jungle two, which was 490 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,119 a straight to DVD movie. So there you go, you 491 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,880 got that. But what's funny is when I looked at 492 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,599 this cast. Julie Ben's aka the woman who played Read 493 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,160 on Dexter, she played Ursula in the straight to DVD 494 00:22:20,279 --> 00:22:23,759 Georgia Jungle sequel. So right, yeah, so I was just 495 00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:25,880 looking at photos and whatnot because I remember seeing it 496 00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:28,079 at some point. Oh it was it a Disney It 497 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,119 was a Disney Channel movie. Maybe I don't know, but 498 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,880 I remember seeing it and it was just add that 499 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,559 no one came back or like, yeah, everybody didn't come 500 00:22:36,599 --> 00:22:39,559 back except for Thomas at Church. He just was happy 501 00:22:39,599 --> 00:22:42,119 to come back to do uh George's Jungle two, I guess, 502 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,799 but uh, you know, get money where you can. But yeah, no, 503 00:22:44,839 --> 00:22:47,079 I think I already said while Terry is talking, my 504 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,440 standouts would be Yet and Craig's always included. But yeah, 505 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,119 Josh O'Connor, Glenn Close and brom But those are three 506 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,119 that I definitely the other two Geeks watches and enjoyed. 507 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,759 I would be fine for them in Golden Geeks and 508 00:22:57,799 --> 00:23:01,759 certain performances. I thought they're all great, all outstanding. Lots 509 00:23:01,759 --> 00:23:08,079 of rare variety there. And yeah, Brolan did a very 510 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,640 good job. Everyone knows who he's playing. And man, it's 511 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,480 so funny because we just talk about in October like 512 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,039 rewatching Midnight Mass. It's nowhere like that, but it's just 513 00:23:16,079 --> 00:23:18,440 it was funny. It's like a small island with a 514 00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:23,079 monsour who's like, you know, a little shady, a little questionable. 515 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: Not not exactly what I was feeling too. 516 00:23:24,759 --> 00:23:27,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't worry, there's no supernatural elements in this, but 517 00:23:28,079 --> 00:23:30,559 uh yeah no. So I think for the most part, 518 00:23:30,599 --> 00:23:32,519 like and the rest of the cast was good. I 519 00:23:32,519 --> 00:23:35,680 think there's just some limitations and I think there's multiple 520 00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:37,720 characters as I listed some and some other ones I 521 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,640 won't speak about that they just go oh, I feel 522 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,839 like we could have got a little bit more. I 523 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,960 do think that there's some really good scenery in this, 524 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,319 but I also think there's a lot of odd CGI like. 525 00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:49,000 I could be wrong. This is a big spoil but 526 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,039 at one point Josh O'Connor at the beginning of the movie, 527 00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:53,880 he's sitting down, he's talking to three priests. That whole 528 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,559 set looked like CGI, right, like with the windows behind 529 00:23:56,599 --> 00:23:59,160 them and everything like, it did a look it. 530 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,559 Speaker 2: Did look like Jim. Yeah. 531 00:24:01,599 --> 00:24:05,799 Speaker 1: There's a point where Dylan Craig, Daniel Craig, and Josh 532 00:24:05,839 --> 00:24:07,839 O'Connor a talking in the woods and they have these 533 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,640 trees behind them that also again did not look like 534 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,319 So that was something that kind of threw me off guard. 535 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,960 Was both the first knives out and then glass onions. Me, 536 00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:18,160 those all were looked like on practical sets, and this 537 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,039 was a little bit different because it was a bigger island. 538 00:24:21,079 --> 00:24:23,359 So I get there's maybe some CGI you have to do, 539 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,599 but there's a few things that just stood out. I 540 00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:28,079 I guess that's where I could say, like, I think 541 00:24:28,079 --> 00:24:30,680 there are some good shots, but I don't know. I 542 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,960 don't think compares to the first one glass Onion. I'd 543 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,519 have to think about. But I think there's even more 544 00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:37,880 shots or visuals there that worked for me, like there was. 545 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,759 I think there's only a couple of times like oh, 546 00:24:39,759 --> 00:24:41,400 that's a really cool shot, but there was nothing that 547 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,160 really stood like wow, that that's something I'm gonna fight 548 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,880 for best visuals at the end of the year or 549 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,599 anything like that. Right, So again, still like a looks 550 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,240 good and ihing looks bad O than like I said, 551 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,799 some CG maybe a little questionable. But yeah, I'm trying 552 00:24:54,839 --> 00:24:57,400 to think there's anything else nonspoils that can bring up, 553 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,680 but I don't. I think so so well. 554 00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 2: I was because you highlighted it a little bit there, 555 00:25:05,799 --> 00:25:07,880 but just to expand on it, this definitely felt the 556 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,359 most horror vibes out of all of them. I really 557 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,519 liked that. I thought that was a really nice twist too, 558 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,839 and especially just the way things went in the story. 559 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,640 And I'd say, like we're starting the third act now 560 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,759 when they're starting to get really really into it, and 561 00:25:23,799 --> 00:25:26,599 it's like, well, how do you explain this? And they were, 562 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,759 you know, I was convinced, I don't want to say convinced, 563 00:25:29,799 --> 00:25:33,799 but like it was getting very spooky and whatnot. I 564 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,920 really really liked that. It was cool and you get 565 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,799 some cool things like I'm not going to say exactly 566 00:25:38,839 --> 00:25:41,200 what it is, but there's just a tub I'll just 567 00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:42,720 leave it at that. And it's like, oh, this is 568 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,440 a cool set that they kind of got going on 569 00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:47,799 here and whatnot. So I like what they were going for. 570 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did too. It's definitely the dark, like we 571 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,720 already talked about a thing for me, like it's the 572 00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:54,880 least funniest, which on purpose, not in the way where 573 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,519 they're doing a bunch of jokes and they're not hitting 574 00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:59,119 I think on purpose they're making it this way. I 575 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,359 think it's something that, like Tara does say, I think 576 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,920 it dives more into the darker, more horror side. I 577 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,119 think there's something in the third act that I really 578 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,839 don't like that I think was kind of a kind 579 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,039 of cheap, I'll say, and I'll say that for spoilers, 580 00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:16,839 but something that I felt was like, Okay, I don't 581 00:26:16,839 --> 00:26:19,720 know if this works, but yeah, I think I will 582 00:26:19,839 --> 00:26:21,960 because obviously we're doing this non spoils. I think I 583 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,599 will give this a seven out of ten for me, 584 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,160 of since was I'll expand and explain more of those reasons, 585 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,759 but a seven out of ten that I enjoyed this. 586 00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:36,240 Definitely think a little too long, Definitely some choices, I think, 587 00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:40,319 the length, and also just the explanations. Not that nothing 588 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,920 didn't work, but eventually just felt maybe a little convoluted. 589 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,400 They still work, but just sometimes, as I said earlier, 590 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,400 a lot of jumping through loops. Still enjoyed the gast, 591 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,799 still enjoyed those four players I talked about, and I 592 00:26:50,839 --> 00:26:54,799 still enjoy more Knives Out stories if we get them. 593 00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:56,720 But yeah, for me, it's a seven and ten. I 594 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,359 think it would be, like I said, as of right 595 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,799 now as I just watched the first two, would be 596 00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:03,039 my weakest of the trilogy. Maybe I'll sit with it, 597 00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:05,079 but uh, even though like something Josh Karen is that 598 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,279 great performance, like the story that his character goes on, 599 00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:10,279 but yeah, that's where I am right now is a 600 00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:10,960 seven out ten? 601 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: What you, Taylor, I think the only real con for 602 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,640 me was just the longevity of it and a bit 603 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,480 of like a slow burn kind of in the in 604 00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:26,720 the middle of the film. I'd say so. But that 605 00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:28,960 being said, like I like the characters a lot, well 606 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,119 actually know. The other con too is we didn't get 607 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,279 to spend enough time with the characters and their stories 608 00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:37,720 as opposed to the previous iterations of the series. So 609 00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:42,440 that's another another bumber for me. But that's and I 610 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,319 say this now without having gone back and watched Glass 611 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,960 Onion for a bit. So I need to go back 612 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,759 and do that and maybe that'll make my rating change. 613 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:58,720 But uh, tentively, right now, I'm gonna say, ah, did 614 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,319 I cut out? 615 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: You were me? Oh? 616 00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's you or me either, I'm 617 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:13,720 gonna say it was me. So I didn't drop my number. No, No, 618 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,160 in retrospect like my number, what I would base it 619 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,680 off of now is just I have to go back 620 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,319 and rewatch that first one and watch glass Onion. But tentatively, 621 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,119 right now, I'm just gonna say, Okay, this is gonna 622 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,440 be like an eight point five out of ten. And 623 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,440 it's above glass onion for me, so that's where I stand. 624 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,599 Speaker 1: There we go, so well, there he goes Lajia, and 625 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,720 that is it for this episode of Sage is a 626 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,799 short one because it's just on spoil So let us 627 00:28:39,839 --> 00:28:41,319 know if you've seen what he thought. If you have 628 00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:43,039 any questions, obviously you can hit us up in the 629 00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:46,119 discord and we'll answer them nonsplore way uh. And then 630 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,920 if you're don't want to hear anything else and want 631 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,119 our expanded thoughts, we will talk about the spoilers and 632 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,079 in full detail of what we enjoyed and liked and 633 00:28:54,079 --> 00:28:56,240 maybe had some issues with. But I think we both 634 00:28:56,279 --> 00:28:58,400 recommend it if you go to theaters. I think there's 635 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,400 some stuff that's good in there. We it wasn't twofold, 636 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,960 but you know it was fun to see it with 637 00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:05,960 a semi crowd with some laughs and whatnot. But uh, yeah, 638 00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:08,680 until next time, promise you it'll not be boring. 639 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,039 Speaker 2: Bye.