Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the six hundred and
eighty first episode of the Geekers podcast AK the Wake
Up Dad Man AK and nives Out Story Review. I
am the Heretic Tress now and I'm joined.
Speaker 2: By I'm the Scooby Doo Taylor Field.
Speaker 1: Yes, lady, gentlemen, we are here doing this again. We
did this. I can remember when nys Out two or
I you know, I am one of those people that
obviously we kind of make fun of the titles like
Rogue Want a Star Wars Story, Ballerina john Wickworlds or whatnot.
I get why they do that with nives Out. I
am super guilty if I just call all these still
like glass Onions, Nie Out two and this is still
nives Out three. So I'm very guilty of that. So
if you hear we refer that many times, I apologize.
Try my best, Storry Ryan Johnson, but you know, we
can only do so much. But yeah, we did this
a couple of years ago, whenever Glass Onion came out.
That we did get early. As I've said before, where
we okay, so three years ago? Now, yeah, what we
get for Netflix is all over the place. I was
super surprised about Frankenstein. We got Frankenstein. It was only
out for three wee because we got the second week,
but still we got it. And then we got like
that Rebecca Ferguson Terras movie that played for a long time,
and every time I checked, I would see like one
person in some of these showing sometimes never. But then
there's some things like the Killer other stuff. I don't
know if we're gonna to get the Stranger of Things finale.
So it's all over. But like it was a couple
of years ago, here we are again where we got
a Wake Up dead Man review here or I guess
the screening, so we are gonna be reviewing it and
people are wondering because even I think it's on, like Patreon,
Clay like he's lives in a bigger city than us,
and he didn't even I don't think he's got it.
Even Katie from Guay, she was looking for screens she
didn't get so kind of I would love to know
their their like marketing tactics to like Katie and Clay
who live in these bigger cities versus US as much
smaller than them, and we again they don't. I really
don't know a flix. They're all over. So that's why
we are going to do two versions of this where
right now this episode is just purely the uh non spoilers.
If you listen on audio on YouTube, we will put
a spoilers version up because that's early and sometimes just
do a bit better of our early reviews on YouTube
that are spoils to be able to see them. They're
seeking those out different algorithms, right, So if you really
want to, it will be on YouTube within the twenty
four hours, So if you've seen the movie, go check
that out. If not, we will drop up the second
part of this episode, you know, half of it in December.
December second or fifth, or whenever it comes out on
Netflix will drop that same day. So we're gonna do
twenty five thirty minutes somewhere around there of complete non
spoilers overall thoughts. So if you want our opinion and
don't want to get spoiled any of the reveals or
the cameos or like the Austed Result revelation, we're not
gonna do any of that, so don't worry. And if
it is, we're not live, so we can you know,
chop anything out. But Tieri Phield, give a brief history
of your you know, thoughts on the Knives Out history
or Knives Out franchise, your history on the franchise, not
your history and history, your thoughts on the franchise, and
then you can streamline into what you thought about Wake
Up Dead Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I feel like my my history with
this just kind of goes back to, Uh, I guess
just kind of joined the bandwagon with you guys all
being like hyped for it. I have to go back
and listen to the episodes of where I was with
that first movie came out.
Speaker 1: It was member's review, so I wasn't on that bandwag.
Speaker 2: I don't remember if I was on it, to be honest,
I just I feel like Dylan's spirit like.
Speaker 1: On that review KD. Here we go. So this was
twenty nineteen. No, I feel like this is you. The
title is Nis Out review. Ryan Johnson strikes back. I
feel like, oh maybe not. Okay, yeah, I thought it
might be, but maybe they'd be more on the thumbnow
and on the title. That episode was actually just Kirklin
and Dylan, So there you go. And I can't remember
that was twenty nineteen, so I guess what. So I
had Logan born November, so I was probably in the
time where I was I was being picky and choosy
with what I was seeing. I don't know what you
were up to, but yeah, you and me were not
on that first nice out review. We were on the
second with.
Speaker 2: You, me and Dylan, So I remember that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we weren't there for the original.
Speaker 2: You know, was the original also theatrical.
Speaker 1: Here that was just pure theatrical. And then Netflix did
the thing where they bought it for two and three,
and I think four is being talked about right now.
I think they're gonna wait and see the reception and
like any money or views this one does obviously.
Speaker 2: So right, well, yeah, I just watching that first one.
I really really liked it. When when I got around
to watching it, it was a really really good time.
And yeah, it's just something that these who done it
kind of movies I do enjoy, but not all the
time are they done very well. If you look at
like Murder on the Oriente Express or Death and the Nile,
or even though there's a third one which is like Murder.
Speaker 1: There's other ones who can name it. It's just that franchise.
That franchise is awful, you.
Speaker 2: Know it is, but I feel like it was just
kind of like consistent and like at the same time
as this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's comparable, big cast and you got Kenneth
Brown not doing the whole Yeah. I've still never seen
a single one of those, So at some point I
don't have to dive in. But not today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not today. It's again it has to be done good.
And one of the things that I liked about Knives
out And maybe it's it's present in that first one,
it's more present in the second one. I feel like
they dial it back a little bit in this one,
which I'm happy with. But he has this innocence to
him where he's just he's a very cute character as
a detective, and I really really like that. And there's
just a real good blend in these movies where you
have the serious notes and then the comedic beats to
it too, and just these really extra flamboyant personality types
and them just like, really, here's your character, but like
bump it up to a ten and so like really
just run with it. And so I really like how
you get you get that from each different character, because
each different character that you get in these movies, they're
all very, very different, and they play there. I don't
want to say stereotype, because they're all very they're not
even stereotypes, they're just very.
Speaker 1: Sometimes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it just feels like yesterday we watched Glass Onion,
and that one is definitely, like I will say that now,
it's my least favorite.
Speaker 1: Of these so far, even after the third.
Speaker 2: After the third, it definitely felt more like it was
in tune with the first one. And there's a few
other things they'll say and when we continue into the
non spoilers without that third one. But yeah, the second
one just felt a little bit too grandiose for my liking.
I liked the small scale aspect of it. Uh, And
so that's where I put the third one or the
second one, kind of at the bottom of the barrel
here and again it was just a little excessively comedic
and clumsy silly, if that makes sense. Like it's just
a little bit too much. But I have to rewatch it,
and i'd like to rewatch.
Speaker 1: I thought you said you just rewatched Glass on You.
Speaker 2: When I say that.
Speaker 1: You two the second goal, I thought you just said
you just.
Speaker 2: Rewatched it, but I'd have to rewatch it.
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe I heard that. Maybe I heard that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I have to rewatch it, and I'd
have to watch the first one again too, just to
kind of like refeel how I am on those movies.
But I just remember having that first movie and a
really good standing in my mind and just having a
real good impression with it. So that's the one that
I'm gonna have to bump up the queue here soon
and revisit. Yeah, this one, Oh, this one, this one
was great. Yeah, this one. This was an absolute treat,
And like we chatted about briefly, like it definitely is
longer than the other ones, and there is a bit
of a slow burn in, you know, a period of
this movie, but I feel like it does a good
job at kind of paying off. I was really happy
with the way things kind of concluded in this movie.
And yeah, I think that they did a I think
that they did a pretty good job with it. It
was it was something that the Yeah, it was something
that was an interesting story and it was told in
a different way from the other films too, which I
kind of liked as well. And the way that they
kind of like circle back, I guess is what i'd
is how I would put it, So I don't know
if that makes sense kind of any there, No, I'll
save it for spoilers.
Speaker 1: Well, so I still got some other stuff talking.
Speaker 2: Or non spoilers, non spoilers.
Speaker 1: Well we're in spot on spoilers now, we're non spoilers now.
Don't worry people. The no spoilers don't look scary. So yeah,
my history is I yeah, I don't remember why I
didn't see the first one. I think I liked all
the trailers enough, but uh saw later after the fact.
I think it's one that like more as time has
gone on, because I think the first time people really
just talked up like this best movie year, best this
best that, even like oh best Ryan Johnson movie, which
I disagree is still like so they talked about it.
So I think when I saw, I was like, oh, yeah,
that's that was like really good. Actually I'll say I'll
say it was really good, but not to me best
movie or people were talking about for Oscars. I don't know,
like I can't really get on board with that, but
I saw it and then watch again. I think yesterday
May for the third time, maybe say my figure is
the third time. I think there's been another time. I
do think it gets better and better with the rewatch.
I still, like I said, don't think it's Johnson's best movie.
I still don't have it up there as like one
of the all time greats for me, But I understand
what people do. I think Daniel Craig is always great
in these roles, right, and even this one did spoil
some thoughts, like if they do a fourth one or
a fifth one, I will be there because Ben one
Blanc is. He's a fun character, right, and it's definitely
fun to see Daniel Craig and this, like obviously Bond
is over now, but that was always the fun thing
going back and forth between that, right if getting like
the hard edge Bond and then getting this very kind
of you know, goofy but on a dumb sense, which
is kind of goofy, a little more light hearted detective
who does have a serious side, but nowhere near as
you know, James Vond Double seven. So that was always fun.
And he's great in this like he's great the other ones.
It's like it's kind of like a non secord, right,
Like I think anytime he's gonna begin these, he's gonna deliver.
So really enjoyed the first one. I agree with mo.
I agree with like everyone that has this take as
far as the first one is better than the second one.
But I don't have the big drop off like I
think for Tat it's a big drop off. And I
see other people. When I looked at the letterbox again
to day, I was like, Okay, some people went from
like a four to like a two, like I'm Knives
Out to me is like a on a letter box,
like a four point five. I think it's probably an
eight point five and the the ranking wise, But for
nine or glass Onion, to me, it's like a seven
to seven point five. Like it's a bit of a
drop off, but not as much. And that's where it's
interesting with this movie where I will say that this
is my least favorite of the trilogy, so and I yeah,
I think they're still all good. But I think what's
interesting is Knives Out is like a big blend. I
feel like there's lots of drama and then lots of comedy. Right,
it feels like a split where I think you're right,
Glass Onion is way more on the comedic side. It's
where way more on the stereotypical side. You have very
comedic characters between Nordon and Kate Hudson, and like, there's
just very very joyful type of movie, even though there's
like a mystery going on, right, So you got that
going where this I think is this still has humor.
I think it starts to lose humor as it goes on.
But this definitely feels the most serious out of the three.
Like it feels like it does hit on the knives
out but wake up dead Man. At times you're going
for stretch where there's no laughs, especially near the I
know they do the revelations, but even if you look
at glass Onion when Ben weoll Bloc's doing the whole
revelation speech, there's that Kate Hudson me like, oh, like
when he's like, oh, it's so dumb. She's like yeah,
but it's so dumb. It's so smart. He's like, no,
it's just dumb. Like there's even moments there where in
this revelation there's like one moment that is very funny,
but it's very serious. Lots of stuff going on, and
it might be I wonder just because they're tackling religion
and faith. If that's why Johnson wanted to take that
approach of Okay, we're not gonna have it as funny,
there's gonna be which I appreciate this movie. There's spiritual stuff,
but it didn't feel preachy either way. Didn't feel preachy
for people that aren't into religion and didn't feel preaching
for people that are. It had their two characters, which
would be Josh O'Connor and then Daniel Craig that are
kind of cemented in where they are on a faith
based thing. And that's another thing I'll say with this
is I'll be very curious, especially someone I think he'll
still enjoy it, but someone like Maddy who loves Daniel Craig.
It's tough because this movie is two hours and twenty minutes,
so it is very long. But there is very long.
Like I want to say, this movie feels like the
Leastpin while Blank is in it, but it is two
and a half almost two and a half hours, right,
so it kind of makes up for that. But there's
long stretches where Daniel Craig is not on screen at all.
He's not even in the equation, especially like in Just
a myersports to set up of this film setup takes
a long time to get going to like the actual event,
and each movie, like Annada arm Mouse is in the
first one, and then oh, I can't remember her name,
but she was. I can't remember her the actress name.
I'll look it up. But in each movie, he's the lead,
but he kind of has like a co lead right
there with him, and they're also like, oh, he's the
innocent person. So we have that again with Josh Oconnor,
where he's the co lead, but at times he feels
like he's the leader of the movie. He doesn't even
feel like he's the co leader. It feels like it's
his movie. So I'm wondering if people are gonna take
to that, because there's long times where he is just
on screen and there's no Daniel Craig whatsoever. He's not
factored in the plot. So it's it was an interesting take.
I think they did a great job with the the
people they chose. For the most part, I think it
is just a bit too long, and I think it's
it was never convoluted in the sense that I didn't understand.
It just was calm in the sense of they do
a lot of twists and turns. I feel like it's
like today you ever been on the teacup ride. You
guys went to Disneyland. So I think there's always a
point where there's you're having fun time spinning, and then
you get to that point where that you know, what,
we've spanned for too much. And I was kind of
feeling that at the back half where I was understood everything,
they were feeling like give me. But it's just like now,
I think it's almost one too many twists. It's it
just feels like it's like too much birthday. It's like, hey,
I get it, let's get to this point. And I
think there's some stuff that's like a big lead. It's
definitely the most when people make the jokes about Batman
or even when glass Onion. I feel like lots of
people thought like, oh, ben well Blanc is just like
got here, he can figure everything else. There's multiple things
that just have to luckily fall in place for ben
Wa to get through this, to like figure it out
and for it to happen. So even though they make
the Scooby joke, it does feel the most far fetched
one to me. And there's some stuff that's very very
I want to say, over the top, but way more
within the or not within the realm of belief of
this world. There's a lot of jumping through hoops. To me,
that was maybe one too many. Maybe would have felt
like that if they shorten it. I don't know, but no,
I think performances are all good. I think there's some
people will talk about the nonspoice here with casting wise
that I was disappointed by. I kind of had that
too with glass Onion. I think Knives Out is the
perfect movie as far as giving all those characters a
moment to shine or I think both glass Onion and
this movie kind of forget about some care. I feel
like we learned nothing about them, and like, like for
I guess this one spot till I throwed out Taylor
Kaylee's Spainey. I could not believe that no one's bad
in this movie. But I was shocked by this character
as far as like I just didn't feel like there
was much for it. I felt I could have been
any actress, Like she just came up Alien Romulus, she
was in Priscilla, like she's a big up and comer,
and this role just didn't feel that special. You know,
I feel even Andrew Scott, which I'm a big fan of.
I loved him in uh not so much the James
Wad movies, but I love him a lot of things.
I can't remember that movie did last year with Paul Mesqal,
but I loved him in Fleabag Like I love Andrew
Scott and he's a fun character. But it just feels
like they're for a two hour, twenty minute movie that oh,
we're gonna get a lot of time with a lot
of these characters, and we really not really don't but
even Tom saying Church like I liked to, but it
feels like it just we some of these roles. Maybe
they're not getting paid that much, but some of these roles,
I feel like you could just get no names. It
would pretty much be the same, right, So I know,
but yeah, how did you feel about some of these
as we've talked about something the non source of how
about some of these characters? Because you got Josh conn there,
Glenn Co's, uh, Josh Brolin, Me Cunez, Jimmy Renner, Uh,
Carrie Washington, Andrew Scott, Kay Spainey, Thomas A and Church.
There's one other person I won't mention because I think
it might be a spool I didn't see, And then
I didn't see that second trader and that second trailer.
Did they reveal the actor that's in like the first
five minutes of this movie. He's in a lot of movies
we cover. I'll just say he's in the Batman. That
will clear it. That actor that's in.
Speaker 2: The Oh yeah, yeah I didn't, So yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Won't say who it is. But I think there's a
couple of fun surprises in here. But yeah, what do
you think for the cast that was announced and shown?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: What do you think? Was there anyone particular person that
stood out to you? Well?
Speaker 2: Uh, Thomas Nayden Church, I think was it?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Is it called Daddy's Home? That the one with Little
Farrell and Mark Wahlberg. Yes, because he's in there. Well,
I'm pretty sure he's in there.
Speaker 1: What's he doing in that movie?
Speaker 2: Let me just confirm I could be getting it wrong.
Uh is he in?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: He plays he plays Leo, So I'm pretty sure he
plays like Will Ferrell's boss in that movie. And he's
so freaking funny. He's just given Will Ferrell just like
information advice. It's just it was so freaking funny. I
need to revisit that movie anyways. So whenever I see
him in a role, I usually just start to crack
up because he just I find him very funny. How
he's just so serious and he's just got this comedic
kind of gag to him. Also shout outs to his
Tarzans or Not George Georgia Jungle George. Yeah, yeah, but yeah,
Jeremy Renner knew that he was in here and his
that like character he plays, Yeah, good timing. The character
he plays is such it was really just quirky and
it was making me laugh because I don't think I've
ever seen that actor do this kind of a role before,
so that was interesting. And then yeah, Josh Brolin just
was popping off everything with him. But he was really
really good too.
Speaker 1: I have Ben Golden Geeks, I think for sure. Maybe
there's some other people, but Roland for sure, I think
he was. There's two I think for me, Brolin and
Glenn Close. Glenn Close was really good as well. Those
to me are kind of the well and seven Josh O'Connor.
I'm not even thinking about him because did you ever
see Challengers? Yes? I did Yeah, he's the other lead
in that, he's the guy. He's like one of the
three there, and oh yeah, I liked him along that
he was like the breakout star. And he's in Spielberg's
UFO movie next year as well too. I think he's
the lead with Emily Blunt, so I will say that, yeah,
and yeah, maybe I'm discounting it. Glenn Close was great
in this, Josh Brown Tayosa was great, But Josh O'Connor,
who sometimes a lead, He's fantastic. He has like a
very honest charm about him. He's very good at he's
not playing every day guy per se, but every day
almost funny, sarcastic guy. I still think there's some gravitas
his performance, so it's not like a like a Tom
Hanks sort of deal. But man, he's he's really good.
Like I like, obviously after Challenges he got scooped up,
but I can see like this and now I'm looking
more forward to him. Spielberg like he's becoming a really
good not becoming but he's just becoming an actor. Now
when I see his name, I think, now with Challengers
in this, I'll be excited, Like this gets me more
excited for that Spielberg movie now knowing he's one of
the leads, because I just think he's shaped up to
be a really good actor.
Speaker 2: So mm hmm, yeah, no, for sure. And that's the
other thing too, Like you highlighted the amount of screen
time and development we get with these characters, and I
feel like knives out when you look at that first one.
It's just it's name dropping, like out the wazzoo. All
these big names and and folks that are a part
of this project, and you get that time with each
one and their motives and there there you know the
pros and cons list, and you to go on this
journey with a Blanc and just kind of learn more
about it and then glass on you and you you do,
you get that, I guess with those characters. But I'm
just I wasn't as engaged with those characters in the
same way I was.
Speaker 1: The first one. Again, though, I think there's a couple
of characters. You don't though. I think there's a couple
of characters they just kind of leave to the side.
And even like this, like you know, it's not like
a big role, like like why is Mealy Koons the
cop that could have been anybody.
Speaker 2: That was definitely out of place, I'd say.
Speaker 1: Like, it's just you. You get the actors that again,
I'm I'm get your bag, do whatever, and it's fun.
I'm not saying she was bad. No, no one in
this movie is bad. I just thought, like, Okay, Meelikoon
is multiple leading movies, you know, seventies show like probably
gonna be a big media role. It's not really, you know,
it's just she's just kind of there as a cop.
And there's a couple other performances that won't dive too
much more too, because I don't want to say the
particular actors name in the case of spoilers, but yeah,
it just feels like they're just kind of there. So
that was one that I was surprised by, kind of
the I don't know limited amount of time that person
was around for, but still good to see him.
Speaker 2: So mm hmmmmmm. No, that's true. Yeah, she definitely was
just kind of a little odd being being in there though.
But you're right, everyone delivered and I really enjoyed everyone's
performances in this movie. Uh, but it was just there
was not enough real focus on on everybody. That would
be my probably one of my only cons here is
just not having the time with every character, and that's
that's where I think they did things differently. I don't
think it's a spoiler, but the way that the main
character is narrating as well, I think that kind of
gives them makes them more of the main character than
blanc his.
Speaker 1: So like it's a minusports but multiple characters narrate in
the movie at times. So that's where it feels not
like blog like Bloc for the most like this is
the most of me he's ever felt like he's just
kind of there, which is fine because like it's other
people's stories, but yeah, it's strange. I was looking up
because I had to confirm this that I think he
was the about Thomas Saint Church. He was the only
one that came back for George's Jungle two, which was
a straight to DVD movie. So there you go, you
got that. But what's funny is when I looked at
this cast. Julie Ben's aka the woman who played Read
on Dexter, she played Ursula in the straight to DVD
Georgia Jungle sequel. So right, yeah, so I was just
looking at photos and whatnot because I remember seeing it
at some point. Oh it was it a Disney It
was a Disney Channel movie. Maybe I don't know, but
I remember seeing it and it was just add that
no one came back or like, yeah, everybody didn't come
back except for Thomas at Church. He just was happy
to come back to do uh George's Jungle two, I guess,
but uh, you know, get money where you can. But yeah, no,
I think I already said while Terry is talking, my
standouts would be Yet and Craig's always included. But yeah,
Josh O'Connor, Glenn Close and brom But those are three
that I definitely the other two Geeks watches and enjoyed.
I would be fine for them in Golden Geeks and
certain performances. I thought they're all great, all outstanding. Lots
of rare variety there. And yeah, Brolan did a very
good job. Everyone knows who he's playing. And man, it's
so funny because we just talk about in October like
rewatching Midnight Mass. It's nowhere like that, but it's just
it was funny. It's like a small island with a
monsour who's like, you know, a little shady, a little questionable.
Speaker 2: Not not exactly what I was feeling too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't worry, there's no supernatural elements in this, but
uh yeah no. So I think for the most part,
like and the rest of the cast was good. I
think there's just some limitations and I think there's multiple
characters as I listed some and some other ones I
won't speak about that they just go oh, I feel
like we could have got a little bit more. I
do think that there's some really good scenery in this,
but I also think there's a lot of odd CGI like.
I could be wrong. This is a big spoil but
at one point Josh O'Connor at the beginning of the movie,
he's sitting down, he's talking to three priests. That whole
set looked like CGI, right, like with the windows behind
them and everything like, it did a look it.
Speaker 2: Did look like Jim. Yeah.
Speaker 1: There's a point where Dylan Craig, Daniel Craig, and Josh
O'Connor a talking in the woods and they have these
trees behind them that also again did not look like
So that was something that kind of threw me off guard.
Was both the first knives out and then glass onions. Me,
those all were looked like on practical sets, and this
was a little bit different because it was a bigger island.
So I get there's maybe some CGI you have to do,
but there's a few things that just stood out. I
I guess that's where I could say, like, I think
there are some good shots, but I don't know. I
don't think compares to the first one glass Onion. I'd
have to think about. But I think there's even more
shots or visuals there that worked for me, like there was.
I think there's only a couple of times like oh,
that's a really cool shot, but there was nothing that
really stood like wow, that that's something I'm gonna fight
for best visuals at the end of the year or
anything like that. Right, So again, still like a looks
good and ihing looks bad O than like I said,
some CG maybe a little questionable. But yeah, I'm trying
to think there's anything else nonspoils that can bring up,
but I don't. I think so so well.
Speaker 2: I was because you highlighted it a little bit there,
but just to expand on it, this definitely felt the
most horror vibes out of all of them. I really
liked that. I thought that was a really nice twist too,
and especially just the way things went in the story.
And I'd say, like we're starting the third act now
when they're starting to get really really into it, and
it's like, well, how do you explain this? And they were,
you know, I was convinced, I don't want to say convinced,
but like it was getting very spooky and whatnot. I
really really liked that. It was cool and you get
some cool things like I'm not going to say exactly
what it is, but there's just a tub I'll just
leave it at that. And it's like, oh, this is
a cool set that they kind of got going on
here and whatnot. So I like what they were going for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did too. It's definitely the dark, like we
already talked about a thing for me, like it's the
least funniest, which on purpose, not in the way where
they're doing a bunch of jokes and they're not hitting
I think on purpose they're making it this way. I
think it's something that, like Tara does say, I think
it dives more into the darker, more horror side. I
think there's something in the third act that I really
don't like that I think was kind of a kind
of cheap, I'll say, and I'll say that for spoilers,
but something that I felt was like, Okay, I don't
know if this works, but yeah, I think I will
because obviously we're doing this non spoils. I think I
will give this a seven out of ten for me,
of since was I'll expand and explain more of those reasons,
but a seven out of ten that I enjoyed this.
Definitely think a little too long, Definitely some choices, I think,
the length, and also just the explanations. Not that nothing
didn't work, but eventually just felt maybe a little convoluted.
They still work, but just sometimes, as I said earlier,
a lot of jumping through loops. Still enjoyed the gast,
still enjoyed those four players I talked about, and I
still enjoy more Knives Out stories if we get them.
But yeah, for me, it's a seven and ten. I
think it would be, like I said, as of right
now as I just watched the first two, would be
my weakest of the trilogy. Maybe I'll sit with it,
but uh, even though like something Josh Karen is that
great performance, like the story that his character goes on,
but yeah, that's where I am right now is a
seven out ten?
Speaker 2: What you, Taylor, I think the only real con for
me was just the longevity of it and a bit
of like a slow burn kind of in the in
the middle of the film. I'd say so. But that
being said, like I like the characters a lot, well
actually know. The other con too is we didn't get
to spend enough time with the characters and their stories
as opposed to the previous iterations of the series. So
that's another another bumber for me. But that's and I
say this now without having gone back and watched Glass
Onion for a bit. So I need to go back
and do that and maybe that'll make my rating change.
But uh, tentively, right now, I'm gonna say, ah, did
I cut out?
Speaker 1: You were me? Oh?
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's you or me either, I'm
gonna say it was me. So I didn't drop my number. No, No,
in retrospect like my number, what I would base it
off of now is just I have to go back
and rewatch that first one and watch glass Onion. But tentatively,
right now, I'm just gonna say, Okay, this is gonna
be like an eight point five out of ten. And
it's above glass onion for me, so that's where I stand.
Speaker 1: There we go, so well, there he goes Lajia, and
that is it for this episode of Sage is a
short one because it's just on spoil So let us
know if you've seen what he thought. If you have
any questions, obviously you can hit us up in the
discord and we'll answer them nonsplore way uh. And then
if you're don't want to hear anything else and want
our expanded thoughts, we will talk about the spoilers and
in full detail of what we enjoyed and liked and
maybe had some issues with. But I think we both
recommend it if you go to theaters. I think there's
some stuff that's good in there. We it wasn't twofold,
but you know it was fun to see it with
a semi crowd with some laughs and whatnot. But uh, yeah,
until next time, promise you it'll not be boring.
Speaker 2: Bye.