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<v Speaker 1>Jay Dyer and the coaching Castle with the peppermint rims,

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<v Speaker 1>tripping on that candy coat.

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<v Speaker 2>Candy coating on them rims.

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<v Speaker 1>You can lick it, ah, get yourself a high dog.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just talking about riff Raff. Riffraff, the uh, the

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<v Speaker 3>ultimate Millennial.

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<v Speaker 2>I got my, I got my my.

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<v Speaker 1>My rims is coated and cramel so you could lick

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<v Speaker 1>it and get yourself a hide.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, everybody, Well we got we got a special

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<v Speaker 3>episode today. We're doing a little movie movie review esoteric analysis.

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<v Speaker 3>Jay's gonna be doing the whole stream in character as

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<v Speaker 3>riff Raff, So that's.

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<v Speaker 1>What's not How y'all doing pepper mint stripes on these

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<v Speaker 1>bitches only with hose who like got and Gabina.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>How y'all doing today?

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<v Speaker 3>Got that scar face scarface on repeat, y'all? B Box

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<v Speaker 3>says boomer and millennial analyzed movie Sign of Peace between Generations.

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<v Speaker 2>Except I'm not a bloomer, but I can dress like one.

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<v Speaker 3>You can dress like when you've got that Look at

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<v Speaker 3>that hat, man, I think you got that hat especially

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<v Speaker 3>for this occasion.

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<v Speaker 2>I did, I need to do it like that to

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<v Speaker 2>do this analysis right, the bill's got to be flat. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like y'all, Don millennials with that don flat bill. What's

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<v Speaker 2>y'all with you today? How y'all do? I could tell

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<v Speaker 2>like Gucci Man too, though, tell like Gucci Man. He

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<v Speaker 2>went in the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Gucci Man, he was, He was great. I think he

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<v Speaker 3>got an Academy Award for his performance in spring Breakers.

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<v Speaker 2>Gucci Man was having a little bit of struggle with

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<v Speaker 2>that acting, wasn't he my.

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<v Speaker 3>Baby need to eat my baby stuff? And y'all it's

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<v Speaker 3>got like pounds of weed in front.

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<v Speaker 1>Of him, pounds of weed. And he was like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I brought you up. I brought you up on the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>I taught you to gang and now you're getting too

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<v Speaker 1>big for your bridges.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know we're talking about We're talking about two

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<v Speaker 3>movies today. This is kind of in line with the

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<v Speaker 3>theme of the social engineering of the millennial. Jay and

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<v Speaker 3>I we both watched two movies that they got a

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<v Speaker 3>lot in common, also very different films, Beneath the Silver

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<v Speaker 3>Lake and spring Breakers. So maybe we should talk about

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<v Speaker 3>Beneath the Silver Lake first, because I was just reviewing

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<v Speaker 3>some clips of that. Let's see, I've got I had

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<v Speaker 3>some screenshots. I'll throw some screenshots up as we go.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's a film that's got Andrew Garfield, the guy

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<v Speaker 3>who played like the young millennial spider Man a few

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<v Speaker 3>years back.

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<v Speaker 4>How does it?

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<v Speaker 3>I remember? It starts out in like a Starbucks, right,

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<v Speaker 3>or some sort of a coffee shop, which is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of the perfect millennial meeting place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's a very strange film. It's a satire,

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<v Speaker 2>dark satire, comedy, conspiracy movie. A lot of throwbacks to

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<v Speaker 2>Hitchcock neo noir, a lot of throwbacks to old Hollywood

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<v Speaker 2>Silver age Hollywood, gold age Hollywood. And we begin by

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<v Speaker 2>seeing this coffee shop, all the hipsters hanging out, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's graffiti that's been painted on the wall about

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<v Speaker 2>watch out for the dog Killer. So dogs are being killed.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know why. What's going on here. Animals and

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<v Speaker 2>dogs pop up all throughout the film. They have all

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<v Speaker 2>of these sort of mystical significances. They're almost like totem

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<v Speaker 2>spirits that keep popping up in in and out.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the first one that you actually see is a

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<v Speaker 3>dead squirrel right, there's this dead from the sky.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost like an hour there's this open right, so that

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<v Speaker 2>the movie starts with this sort of dark omen of

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<v Speaker 2>this dead squirrel. It just sort of pops out of

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<v Speaker 2>the sky in front of him, and from then on

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<v Speaker 2>we know something some shady's about to be going on.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's see what I had in my notes here.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a bunch of notes on this one. So

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<v Speaker 2>the first the omen of the dead squirrel, that was

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<v Speaker 2>my first note. There's a band playing and we see

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<v Speaker 2>an ad for this Jesus in the Brides of Dracula band.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's this weird mix of pop culture with religious symbol.

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<v Speaker 2>And it could be that could be any pop band, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it could just be a cut and paste of any

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<v Speaker 2>of the ship pop bands. And that's that's interesting because

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<v Speaker 2>the lead singer of this pop band is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be immediately associated with shit. Did you notice that?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what? I actually didn't notice that they associate

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<v Speaker 3>him with shit. I've got the screenshot pulled up right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus in the Brides of Dracula East La resurrected or

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<v Speaker 3>never Dead, and it's this guy like Steven Tyler looking

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<v Speaker 3>dude with his shirt off and some chicks dressed as

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<v Speaker 3>like satanic nuns surrounding him.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's that there's a really disgusting scene where he

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<v Speaker 2>when Andrew Garfield finally tracks that guy down to ask

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<v Speaker 2>him some questions about the lyrics, and he sneaks into

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom and throws the dude off the toilet and

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<v Speaker 2>you see this big pile of shit right next to

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a double reference both to John Rowski's film

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<v Speaker 2>where the Jesus character takes a poop, which is you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>was done intentionally I think by Jowarowski to lampoon Christianity.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, there's also the the idea

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<v Speaker 2>that the singer is essentially Shitty's he's not he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have talent, and as we'll see it kind of jobs

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<v Speaker 2>with the Dave mcgallan type research that that this band

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<v Speaker 2>is really just a front, like they get their real

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<v Speaker 2>songs aren't even written by them. They're just a cut

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<v Speaker 2>and paste, you know, product, And this.

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<v Speaker 3>Later onto the film that they didn't write any of

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<v Speaker 3>the songs.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting kind of myself.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, yeah, I don't want to. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to blow that scene yet because we'll talk about that

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit later. So, yeah, so Jesus and the brides,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the guy goes home and he's a he's

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<v Speaker 3>sitting on his porch and he's got his cell phone,

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<v Speaker 3>a cigarette, and some binoculars and he's checking out some.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's clearizing his hippie, open tittied neighbor who is

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<v Speaker 2>feeding her birds. She's got a basically a zoo of

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<v Speaker 2>birds on her balcony and feeding them bare breasted. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he spy as the babe, right, the younger chick,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's out by the pool dancing mystically, just dancing

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<v Speaker 2>by herself for no reason, with her puppy dog. And

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<v Speaker 2>so he starts, you know, thinking, all right, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go for that. I'm gonna I'm gonna spit some game

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<v Speaker 2>at her. I'm trying to think how he first meets her.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he just kind of smiles at her, and

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<v Speaker 2>she sees him voyeurizing. And so these are immediate references

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<v Speaker 2>to rear Window Hitchcock, because you know, there's Jimmy Stewart

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<v Speaker 2>characters broken. He's broken his leg, he's stuck in his apartment,

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<v Speaker 2>so all he has to do all day is just

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<v Speaker 2>basically watch all the other people in the apartments, and

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<v Speaker 2>he gets into voyeurism. So that's a very Hitchcockian theme,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole surveillance stuff. Let's see. He then max on

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<v Speaker 2>the chick, right, so he bumps into her. He starts

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<v Speaker 2>talking to her. She says, hey, come over. They smoke

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<v Speaker 2>some weed. They watch an old movie, marily Monroe.

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<v Speaker 3>Movie, and she's kind of dressed up as like a

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<v Speaker 3>film noir, like the classic film noir fem fatale kind

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<v Speaker 3>of chick.

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<v Speaker 2>Who exactly she's the femme fatal exactly. Good point. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and the movie is relevant too, because I actually watched

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<v Speaker 2>I'd never seen it, believe it or not, a Marilyn

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<v Speaker 2>Monroe movie. I tell Jamie was like, hey, we should

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<v Speaker 2>we should watch the movie that they're watching. And they're

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<v Speaker 2>watching How to.

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<v Speaker 3>Marry a Millionaire Mary a Millionaire? Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 2>So that should have been a clue right away that

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<v Speaker 2>this bitch is a thought dude. She ain't after your

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<v Speaker 2>low level la apartment, She's after big money, right, And.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you notice that they have she has statues of

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<v Speaker 3>Marilyn Monroe, James Jane Mansfield and whoever that other woman

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<v Speaker 3>is did you see that there's like code written underneath it,

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a on the statues underneath it, there's like

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<v Speaker 3>a card that will say Marilyn and then it'll have

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<v Speaker 3>underneath it. It had some strange alphabet like some upside

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<v Speaker 3>down te and some other symbols looked almost like English,

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<v Speaker 3>but they were written in code. I didn't notice that

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<v Speaker 3>till I was going through it right now taking out screenshots.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I missed that. So so she was already kind

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<v Speaker 2>of learning to speak in the code cipher speak that

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<v Speaker 2>the Elite.

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<v Speaker 3>U is basically, yeah, so I've got I've got the

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<v Speaker 3>screen shot pulled up right now on this on this one,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's yeah, it's the same cipher type language that

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<v Speaker 3>James Garfield's character kind of discovers later on. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know that until I didn't notice that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that is interesting. So she she's basically trying

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<v Speaker 2>to learn it. And then that's why when she leaves

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<v Speaker 2>the apartment suddenly in the middle of the night, she

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<v Speaker 2>leaves that symbol right mm hmm, yep, right, which is

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<v Speaker 2>like two diamonds on their sides.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically yeah, and he doesn't know what any means. He

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<v Speaker 3>goes trying to figure out what this symbol means.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and so at the same time as all that's

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<v Speaker 2>going down, he and he notices this weird pirate guy

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<v Speaker 2>at her at her hanging out her apartment, some some

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<v Speaker 2>idiot hipster that dresses up like a pirate. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, who is that fucking weird dude? And he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>why are all your friends so weird? And at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, keep in mind too, he can't pay his rent,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's having he's overdoing his rent. He can't pay

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<v Speaker 2>his rent. He goes to the landlord. He's like, why

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<v Speaker 2>did this chick move out in the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 2>The Landlord's like, because she wanted to move And he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but in the middle of the night. And he's like

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<v Speaker 2>she moves she didn't like you get over it, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, pay your rent. So this is an interesting

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<v Speaker 2>because conspiracy theorists, right, they're always portrayed as the guys

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<v Speaker 2>who can't pay the rent. They get obsessed with the conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh you know they have the strands of yarn all

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<v Speaker 2>over the apartment.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, nothing going on in their life other than

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<v Speaker 3>just this obsessive compulsive behavior, get conspiracizing everything in the world,

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<v Speaker 3>and he doesn't necessarily fit all of those stereotypes, but

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<v Speaker 3>he touches on him a little bit, right, He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>he's got his the shallow.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he's gonna if you remember his buddy who he meets,

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<v Speaker 2>who's the comic book artist, is the conspiracy theoris who's

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<v Speaker 2>way down the rabbit hole. And he thinks that guy

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<v Speaker 2>is a nutball, Like he's like, this guy's crazy. But

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<v Speaker 2>as the film progresses, he starts going down that rabbit hole. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So, and what's interesting is that the whole rabbit hole

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<v Speaker 3>is like it's laid out so that it can lead

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<v Speaker 3>the character progressively down his little you know, heroes journey

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<v Speaker 3>of degeneracy and pop culture masturbatory, you know existence, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's you know, he sees where where did he first

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<v Speaker 3>see in a comic book or something it said that.

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<v Speaker 2>Lake and murders in the past, uh related to Hollywood

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<v Speaker 2>in relationship to this lake that's that's near where he lives.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, so basically he tracks down, Yeah, the the artist,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's watching her almost as if she's a television

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<v Speaker 3>screen too. Right, look the way he interacts with her.

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<v Speaker 3>And even though they you know, they have I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess they don't have sex, but they kiss or something, right,

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<v Speaker 2>He wants to He thinks he's gonna get laid. And

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, uh. And they're eating crackers because they're stoned.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well they're they're having orange juice and like saltine crackers. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny all the food culture in this movie. It's

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<v Speaker 3>all fast food or you know, prepackaged crap. But then

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<v Speaker 3>they're drinking like expensive drinks at these parties. And stuff, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and then just you know, trash food but expensive liquor.

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<v Speaker 2>Good point. Yeah, I didn't even think about that, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's also kind of like he's interacting with these

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<v Speaker 2>higher level, higher classes and much wealthier people, so people

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<v Speaker 2>out of his leg. Now, he's not a broke his money.

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<v Speaker 2>He has some money, right, because he calls his mom.

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<v Speaker 2>She's supporting him. So that's another kind of millennial thing,

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<v Speaker 2>like he doesn't have a job, but his mom is

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<v Speaker 2>sending him money for some reason. We don't know why.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. And then I like that scene actually when he's

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<v Speaker 3>talking on the phone with his mom and he has

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<v Speaker 3>no respect for her at all. Right, he's got a

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<v Speaker 3>cigarette in his mouth, he's basically jerking off with binoculars,

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<v Speaker 3>spying on his neighbors and just like yeah, mom, whatever, whatever, whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>I love you. So I mean, and it's such a

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<v Speaker 3>typical generational divide that's represented there with millennials. Right, just mom, dad,

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<v Speaker 3>give me money so I can buy drugs, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>pay my rent.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great point. And yeah, and basically just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>screw around, watch porn, you know, play video games, be

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, hedonism is a major theme in both of these films.

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<v Speaker 3>And that one chick that he meets later, well, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>talk about this later. Go ahead. It seems like you've

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<v Speaker 3>got a really good outline right now of the film.

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<v Speaker 2>So uh, let's see. So so we he notices too,

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<v Speaker 2>this weird news clip of a billionaire who has supposedly

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<v Speaker 2>and he wasn't just a billionaire who's also a kind

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<v Speaker 2>of evil can evil you know, super Dave type character

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<v Speaker 2>who I don't know, did some kind of jumps over

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<v Speaker 2>buses and shit. But he's gone missing or he's kidnapped,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know. So he puts that in the back

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<v Speaker 2>of his mind. He doesn't know what's going on yet,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's probably connected. If you look at the films,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you look at his posters, they're all old Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 2>So his apartment is full of old movie posters, everything

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<v Speaker 2>from Wolfman to Hitchcock to to all kinds of classic Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 3>Then let's see, Well, he's got the he's got the

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<v Speaker 3>faces on the wall to the plaster cast.

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<v Speaker 2>Face that was the conspiracy theorist.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, no, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, but I'm just saying you're right though that

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<v Speaker 2>when you were talking about him interacting with her almost

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<v Speaker 2>like she's on a TV screen. He sees it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because he's he's viewing the world like it's a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's like it's a virtual you know, Hollywood presentation,

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<v Speaker 2>something like a video game. The movie itself is like

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<v Speaker 2>a video game quest basically, hence the Zelder references later on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and also he wears, you know, his video game shirt. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>He's got a shirt and it's a character swimming in

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<v Speaker 3>the water and there's a shark underneath. I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>what the shirt is. There's a shark underneath it. And

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<v Speaker 3>then it says, you know, one hundred points on the

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<v Speaker 3>person that's swimming across ah across the top, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's just about to be consumed by this creature that

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well that's see. Now you've noticed a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of things. I didn't even notice, and I gave it

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<v Speaker 2>two viewings and still missed quite a bit of the references,

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<v Speaker 2>so that there's a lot here. Uh, let's see, I've

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<v Speaker 2>got to notice says silver Lake A it was an

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<v Speaker 2>old silent film studio. So it goes there's this ghostly

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<v Speaker 2>pass back to the to the early days of Hollywood. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he's he's he's reading his comic book and

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<v Speaker 2>the comic books based around these murders that happened a

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<v Speaker 2>long time ago, and there's a reference to it said

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<v Speaker 2>this phrase, no one will ever be happy until all

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<v Speaker 2>of the dogs are dead. So we keep seeing this

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<v Speaker 2>reference to the need for the dogs to die. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a reference to stunt dogs and in this story,

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<v Speaker 2>some some actor killed a dog because he got mad

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<v Speaker 2>and jealous that the dog the dog was getting more

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<v Speaker 2>screen time than he was. In this old in the

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<v Speaker 2>comic books referencing like the twenties, and it's telling this

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<v Speaker 2>story about some actor that got upstaged by some stupid

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<v Speaker 2>dog and so he killed the dog.

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<v Speaker 3>That's kind of a weird. Yeah, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so there's this mythology of the dog killer, but

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know why it's being put on graffiti everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>in the present day.

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<v Speaker 3>But it also, I mean it puts on the same

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<v Speaker 3>level the dog and the actors and the people. Right

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<v Speaker 3>basically trained.

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<v Speaker 2>Dogs are in fact. Yeah, what you'll notice there's a

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<v Speaker 2>few scenes where the thoughts, all the millennial thoughts bitches

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<v Speaker 2>start barking. They're essentially the dogs. I think they bark.

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<v Speaker 3>At him, right, they're barking at They throw him down

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<v Speaker 3>in the bathroom. One of them spits in his face,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they start barking at him.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see, So is it cursed? Is the Silver Lake Edendale?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it cursed? He has a dream of a dog

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<v Speaker 2>killer in the park. But and keep in mind he's

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<v Speaker 2>got Wolfman posters on his wall, Wolfman rear window, Dracula.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the two the two squares that are the

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<v Speaker 2>symbols that she's left in her room are very they're

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<v Speaker 2>almost exactly the same as the twin peaks symbols. About

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<v Speaker 2>that reference the colts out in the woods.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's interesting. I didn't notice that. But there are

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of David Lynch references in the movie too. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so we know there's some kind of something cultic

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<v Speaker 2>going on in the background. We don't exactly know what yet.

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<v Speaker 2>But he goes to this party. They call it Purgatory.

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<v Speaker 2>The party is called purgatory. I'm not sure what to

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<v Speaker 2>make of that, but there is a very conspicuous all

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<v Speaker 2>sing eye at the party. So we're gonna be littered

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<v Speaker 2>with the all seeing eye imagery, classic conspiracy, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all Egypt, you know, Pharaoh, that kind of stuff, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be the essentially the crux of the film

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<v Speaker 2>is spoiler alert, it's going to be about Egyptian mystery religion. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the crux of it. But so yeah, so the

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<v Speaker 2>women are barking at him like dogs, and then he

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<v Speaker 2>leaves this party. He's trying to get information on what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on and he can't figure out where this this

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<v Speaker 2>chick disappeared to. He's kind of infatuated whe her, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he finds out that the daughter of the billionaire

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<v Speaker 2>who went missing is hanging out at these parties too,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's thinking, oh, maybe I can talk to her,

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<v Speaker 2>but he doesn't get a chance to the bitches in

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom throw him down and bark at him, like

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<v Speaker 2>you said.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got that screenshot of the crazy chicks. They

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<v Speaker 3>all have pink wigs, like pink hair, and they're kind

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<v Speaker 3>of dressed up like the crazy feminist chicks.

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<v Speaker 2>So then uh he he overhears these the brides of Dracula,

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<v Speaker 2>who are the women in the stupid pop band talking

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<v Speaker 2>about sleeping with Jesus. Who's the idiot pop band leader guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the clue here is that these women are

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<v Speaker 2>all essentially prostitutes. They're all they're all, They're all they're

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<v Speaker 2>in it for is status, climbing and money. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think the irony here is that he doesn't pick up

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<v Speaker 2>on this, this girl that he's infatuated with. He's not

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<v Speaker 2>picking up on the fact that she's just one of

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<v Speaker 2>these same thought nuts. Yeah, she's these same o's, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's really thinking, oh, you know, I can, I can.

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<v Speaker 2>I can still put my time and energy into the

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<v Speaker 2>quest like you know link and I can say Princess

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<v Speaker 2>Zelda or something. Then we get this weird reference to

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<v Speaker 2>the owl and the owls kiss because he he's got

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<v Speaker 2>all these questions, so he tracks down his conspiracy theory buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they become buddies. He's the guy who draws a

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<v Speaker 2>comic book, and this conspiracy theory guy is like way

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<v Speaker 2>down the rabbit hole. If you look in his room,

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<v Speaker 2>there's every kind of conspiracy you can think of, everything

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<v Speaker 2>ufo aliens, templars, little figurines of Zelda.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got a lot of owls in there too, ye.

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<v Speaker 2>Owls yeah, And so Bohemian Grove references start coming to

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<v Speaker 2>the four and he's intrigued by the conspiracy guy's thoughts,

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<v Speaker 2>but he also starts thinking he's nuts because the conspiracy

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<v Speaker 2>guy has taken it so far that he's actually referencing,

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<v Speaker 2>like you said, pop culture crap food, like it's supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be flint stone cereal, but it's space stones, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's like, he's there's these messages that are on

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<v Speaker 2>the boxes of cereal, and he's like, this guy's like, this.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy's yeah, yeah. The message it says something like, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I think all everything I've been lurking looking for my

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<v Speaker 3>whole life I believe is on this map. And he

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<v Speaker 3>of box, which is so funny. But it's like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you see this a lot in pop culture now, and

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<v Speaker 3>even in the whole conspiracy world. Remember all the uh

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like the syncro mysticism videos and stuff. Back

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<v Speaker 3>in like twenty twelve, people were getting really into finding

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<v Speaker 3>these weird pop culture references and basically and people started

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<v Speaker 3>trying to make predictions about future events by watching television

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<v Speaker 3>and pop culture, which is so funny. They thought in

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<v Speaker 3>this like realm of like the whole conspiracy world, these

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<v Speaker 3>people were you know, they thought they were you know,

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<v Speaker 3>tapping into something so prophetic. But yeah, yeah, what do

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<v Speaker 3>you think about that about the hell phenomenon back in

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<v Speaker 3>the day. I don't know if people still do it,

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<v Speaker 3>but that was huge.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's obviously it's a way to look

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<v Speaker 2>silly because we don't don't always know what is intentional

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<v Speaker 2>and what's not. I mean, I think looking back, it's

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<v Speaker 2>easier to figure out. Okay, there were quite a few

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<v Speaker 2>references to nine to eleven in pop culture, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's no guarantee that you're going to infallibly

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<v Speaker 2>interpret the phenomenon in pop culture. And a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>things in pop culture aren't intentional. They're just coincidence or

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're put there, yeah, by artists creativity, but sometimes

416
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<v Speaker 2>there is predictive programming. So but again, you know, unless

417
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<v Speaker 2>you know for sure the the intention of the people

418
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<v Speaker 2>who put it in there, it's not really any way

419
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<v Speaker 2>to know with certainty, you know, what the what the

420
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<v Speaker 2>meaning is. But yeah, it does, it does. Yeah, it

421
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<v Speaker 2>recalls that you know, Lauren Coleman's blog Synchronisticism. He got

422
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<v Speaker 2>pretty popular for a while, and even Hoffman and his

423
00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:49.720
<v Speaker 2>book talks about mystical toponymy about names and if you've

424
00:21:49.759 --> 00:21:53.079
<v Speaker 2>ever heard of James Shelby Downard, he wrote a whole

425
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<v Speaker 2>book about this very thing anyway.

426
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<v Speaker 3>So you know, it's another funny thing. In the same

427
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<v Speaker 3>scene or in the same sequence when they start going

428
00:22:01.440 --> 00:22:03.839
<v Speaker 3>over the plaster faces in the wall and the guy,

429
00:22:05.079 --> 00:22:07.400
<v Speaker 3>the character or the actor who plays this character is

430
00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:09.640
<v Speaker 3>the same guy that was in We'll holand Drive that

431
00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:14.160
<v Speaker 3>plays that in the last scene in the before that

432
00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:17.000
<v Speaker 3>like weird monster bum thing pops out in the very

433
00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:19.359
<v Speaker 3>last scene. So I thought that was a weird reference.

434
00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:20.960
<v Speaker 3>And he's kind of a similar character, right with the

435
00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:24.279
<v Speaker 3>weird eyes and the you know, just bugging out, tripping

436
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<v Speaker 3>out about Well.

437
00:22:24.920 --> 00:22:29.279
<v Speaker 2>This is another parallel to to Twin Peaks and Lynch stuff.

438
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<v Speaker 2>You're right, is is the hoboes. Hoboes are a network,

439
00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Hoboes have a king, and David Lynch. There's hobo demons, right,

440
00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Hobo goblins pretty consistently throughout David Lynch stuff. So that's

441
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<v Speaker 2>I think intentional. That was a did.

442
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<v Speaker 3>You catch the weird part when he says, there's Johnny

443
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<v Speaker 3>Depp's face right next to Grace Kelly.

444
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<v Speaker 2>What did you make of that?

445
00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:54.119
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

446
00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:55.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what to make of it, right, So

447
00:22:56.039 --> 00:22:58.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm not let me look into this. I looked into

448
00:22:58.200 --> 00:22:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Grace Kelly before, but it was just weird. They pause

449
00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.799
<v Speaker 3>for about ten seconds showing Johnny Depp's face and Grace Kelly,

450
00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:05.440
<v Speaker 3>and they both kind of got a little bit tripped

451
00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:05.960
<v Speaker 3>out by it.

452
00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, she was she was murdered by the by the elite.

453
00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:11.839
<v Speaker 2>It's pretty certain.

454
00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:15.400
<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's it. She was the princess of Monaco, right, She.

455
00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Was dating the Prince of Monaco, and there was some

456
00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:21.279
<v Speaker 2>he had held back money that had to do with diamonds,

457
00:23:21.920 --> 00:23:25.680
<v Speaker 2>so he was involved in some shady diamond stuff and

458
00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:29.160
<v Speaker 2>the elite sent him a message.

459
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<v Speaker 3>I just thought it was so strange because you know,

460
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<v Speaker 3>Johnny Depp, I mean, when when you look at like

461
00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:35.720
<v Speaker 3>kind of where he's at today and all the weird

462
00:23:35.799 --> 00:23:38.480
<v Speaker 3>stories about him, the Viper Room and his connections with

463
00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:42.519
<v Speaker 3>oh Hunter Thompson, you know, I mean, he was obsessed

464
00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:46.319
<v Speaker 3>with Hunter Thompson, really really close with him. Basically, you know,

465
00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:49.039
<v Speaker 3>he just hit the shattered Psyche of Johnny Depp is

466
00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:52.079
<v Speaker 3>kind of like the quintessential, you know, child star. You know,

467
00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:53.920
<v Speaker 3>he wasn't one of these kids stars who was around

468
00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:57.119
<v Speaker 3>Hollywood for a long time. I just thought it was

469
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<v Speaker 3>a weird reference, you know, to obviously possible human sacrifice

470
00:24:01.759 --> 00:24:04.240
<v Speaker 3>stuff that people talking about Grace Kelly and then Johnny

471
00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:05.759
<v Speaker 3>Dett being involved in a lot of these weird things

472
00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:10.160
<v Speaker 3>with River Phoenix and stuff too. I don't know what

473
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<v Speaker 3>to make of it. It's just it seems like they

474
00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:15.160
<v Speaker 3>were just trying to bait people to kind of think

475
00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:16.279
<v Speaker 3>about these things.

476
00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:20.599
<v Speaker 2>So he received he gets this cookie at this party

477
00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:25.440
<v Speaker 2>and says, hey, come to the Brides of Dracula performance.

478
00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:29.160
<v Speaker 2>We're playing in a tomb. So they're actually gonna have

479
00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:32.599
<v Speaker 2>the band's going to play in a tomb. But to

480
00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:34.799
<v Speaker 2>get into this party, he has to eat this cookie.

481
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<v Speaker 2>And it's a cookie that has the number seventy six

482
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<v Speaker 2>on it. So I'm not seventeen seventy six, and I'm

483
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<v Speaker 2>not exactly sure what the point of the seventy six was.

484
00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:47.720
<v Speaker 2>The logo seventy six Oil Wool Company or whatever.

485
00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:50.720
<v Speaker 3>Well, in California, there's seventy six gas stations everywhere too.

486
00:24:50.640 --> 00:24:53.960
<v Speaker 2>So right, that's why I'm in the gas station ole company.

487
00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:03.079
<v Speaker 2>Let's see the billionaire. It turns out he was supposedly

488
00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:05.359
<v Speaker 2>burned up in a car wreck. They found his car

489
00:25:05.640 --> 00:25:08.559
<v Speaker 2>and there's a hat there and it's the hat of

490
00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:11.400
<v Speaker 2>the chick. It's on the news clip. They find this

491
00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:13.599
<v Speaker 2>hat and it's the hat of the girl that he

492
00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:16.599
<v Speaker 2>was first infatuated with. So now he starts to be

493
00:25:16.599 --> 00:25:19.480
<v Speaker 2>freaked out because he's like, whoa this chick that I

494
00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:22.160
<v Speaker 2>was trying to make it with, she's actually, you know,

495
00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:25.119
<v Speaker 2>hanging out with this billionaire that supposedly just died. So

496
00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:28.039
<v Speaker 2>this is crazy what's going on. He's like, I didn't

497
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<v Speaker 2>even know that I was hanging out with this hoe

498
00:25:31.799 --> 00:25:35.480
<v Speaker 2>of the billionaire. So anyway, but I've forgotten too. The

499
00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:38.039
<v Speaker 2>other thing about the conspiracy theorist is that he tells

500
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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Garfield says, watch out for the owl's kiss, and

501
00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:44.759
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't know what that is, but it's some kind

502
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<v Speaker 2>of assassin or something kind of spirit or killer. And

503
00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:53.160
<v Speaker 2>he says, anybody who sees the owl, they know they're

504
00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:54.039
<v Speaker 2>going to be dying soon.

505
00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:57.039
<v Speaker 3>It was a pretty blatant Twin Peaks kind of reference.

506
00:25:57.119 --> 00:25:59.799
<v Speaker 2>Right, there is, and then he which and also beheman

507
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<v Speaker 2>great over and then he's and then he shows him

508
00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:03.079
<v Speaker 2>the owl on the dollar bill. He's like, look at

509
00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:06.000
<v Speaker 2>our dollar bill. It has a has an owl on it, right,

510
00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:08.440
<v Speaker 2>which has the all seeing eye on it too. But uh,

511
00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:10.359
<v Speaker 2>and there is there really is the owl on the

512
00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:14.880
<v Speaker 2>dollar bill is true and that's why DC has that owl. Owl.

513
00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Imagery and owls are obviously, you know, they're kind of

514
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:22.000
<v Speaker 2>classic symbols for spooks. I mean, not just spooks in

515
00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:23.799
<v Speaker 2>the sense of ghosts and demons and the way it's

516
00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:27.599
<v Speaker 2>using twin peaks intelligence. But they're intelligent because they sit

517
00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:32.440
<v Speaker 2>back and they watch exactly. I'm not sure what to

518
00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:35.880
<v Speaker 2>make up the Janet Gainer stuff about how he's his

519
00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:40.720
<v Speaker 2>mom loves this actress, Janet Gainer and and she's her favorite,

520
00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:44.759
<v Speaker 2>and that comes up a little bit later after this

521
00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:48.359
<v Speaker 2>this uh band performance that he goes to. But the

522
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:51.000
<v Speaker 2>reason I'm bringing up the band performance is because he

523
00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:54.079
<v Speaker 2>meets another thought at this party who was dancing with

524
00:26:54.119 --> 00:26:57.599
<v Speaker 2>balloons and acting all idiotic. Uh. He eats this cookie

525
00:26:57.839 --> 00:26:59.880
<v Speaker 2>because he said he was told that's how you get

526
00:26:59.880 --> 00:27:01.559
<v Speaker 2>in the party is you have to eat the cookie. Well,

527
00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:03.200
<v Speaker 2>it turns out you're just supposed to take a bite

528
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:05.519
<v Speaker 2>of the cookie, and it's like a really heavy dose

529
00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:05.960
<v Speaker 2>of I.

530
00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:09.279
<v Speaker 3>Don't know, yeah, some sort of hall heavy or something.

531
00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Some yeah, some heavy drugs. So he gets blowed out

532
00:27:13.160 --> 00:27:15.240
<v Speaker 2>of his mind and he's trying to score with his chick,

533
00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:17.359
<v Speaker 2>but he can't because he's so ends up being so

534
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:20.240
<v Speaker 2>messed up. And what do you think.

535
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:22.279
<v Speaker 3>About the red balloon? And like the whole the chicks

536
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:24.200
<v Speaker 3>kind of appears. I got a picture ever pulled up.

537
00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:26.400
<v Speaker 3>I thought that it was a very Masonic building that

538
00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:28.599
<v Speaker 3>they go into. It's kind of like this initiation. Then

539
00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:31.799
<v Speaker 3>they go underground, right, so it's like the first.

540
00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:34.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah it is. It's I mean the party that

541
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:36.039
<v Speaker 2>he was just at was called purgatory, and then he's

542
00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:39.839
<v Speaker 2>underground in this tomb, so it's the underworld. It's supposed

543
00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:40.599
<v Speaker 2>to be the realm of the dad.

544
00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:44.119
<v Speaker 3>Did you see the table they sit at is shaped

545
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:46.039
<v Speaker 3>like a heart, but it's a tombstone and it says

546
00:27:46.119 --> 00:27:47.200
<v Speaker 3>Jane Mansfield on it.

547
00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:48.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh I didn't see that.

548
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:51.799
<v Speaker 3>No, Yeah, I was pausive and try to figure out

549
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:53.160
<v Speaker 3>some of the references and some of this stuff. And

550
00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:55.599
<v Speaker 3>right before that, when he before he goes to the party.

551
00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:57.519
<v Speaker 3>He's talking to the guy in the weird Indian suit

552
00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:00.079
<v Speaker 3>and there in front of this giant tombstone that says hitch.

553
00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:03.720
<v Speaker 2>On it ah. Now, and of course Jane Mansfield being

554
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:06.039
<v Speaker 2>in the Church of Satan, so that one's that one's

555
00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:07.240
<v Speaker 2>an interesting reference there.

556
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:07.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

557
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:09.799
<v Speaker 3>And the chick she's got like a bedie in her eye.

558
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:12.799
<v Speaker 3>She's got like a little her cute glittery plastic fake

559
00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:14.799
<v Speaker 3>jewel for her third eye. You know, it's like this

560
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:18.240
<v Speaker 3>whole you know, fake, fake spiritual thing. And then they're talking.

561
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Now this is crucial, Yeah, because the the the thoughts

562
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:25.960
<v Speaker 2>in the movie are bought into the ascension consciousness cult

563
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:28.160
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be referenced at the end. Did you

564
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:28.599
<v Speaker 2>catch that?

565
00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:30.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, Yeah, no, And that's that's kind of a

566
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:31.960
<v Speaker 3>freakier part about it.

567
00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, but so the girls all believe that they're

568
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:39.240
<v Speaker 2>part of this secret elite network that's going to ascend,

569
00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:40.359
<v Speaker 2>which we'll see later.

570
00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:44.759
<v Speaker 3>But so and she says, this girl says to him

571
00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:47.480
<v Speaker 3>when they're down there, you know, we we've only got

572
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:50.519
<v Speaker 3>one life. It's just so small. Don't waste your time

573
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:54.359
<v Speaker 3>thinking about things that don't matter we have our bodies. Yeah,

574
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:56.680
<v Speaker 3>unless we can just fuck. Yeah, she says, had a

575
00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:58.480
<v Speaker 3>couple of times this really awkward way. And then she

576
00:28:58.519 --> 00:29:01.599
<v Speaker 3>blows up a balloon at a red blue tree. She

577
00:29:01.720 --> 00:29:04.200
<v Speaker 3>blows it up, like when she's talking about not wasting

578
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:07.160
<v Speaker 3>your energy on futile things. She pulls a fucking plastic

579
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:09.240
<v Speaker 3>balloon from her shirt and blows it up and then

580
00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:12.039
<v Speaker 3>pops it with a cigarette. And then they go and

581
00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:13.519
<v Speaker 3>then they go dance to an R. E. M.

582
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Song.

583
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:17.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I don't forget what song it was.

584
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:18.920
<v Speaker 4>And then in the middle of the dance, she goes,

585
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:19.920
<v Speaker 4>we should fuck.

586
00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:24.359
<v Speaker 2>I just took out as millennial weirdness.

587
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:27.039
<v Speaker 3>This is the millennial dating ritual right here, right like

588
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:32.279
<v Speaker 3>meat at a stupid party, consume some drugs.

589
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:36.480
<v Speaker 4>I have fruity pebbles at my house. You go the

590
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:40.240
<v Speaker 4>fucking we get eat them. Let's go out to the

591
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:42.440
<v Speaker 4>Let's go to my Little Pony.

592
00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:50.519
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. Yeah, that's part of what makes the film appealing

593
00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:53.240
<v Speaker 2>is the weirdness of all the millennial pop culture.

594
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:55.279
<v Speaker 3>It's so funny the way they interact with each other,

595
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:57.480
<v Speaker 3>and like the the disc on them.

596
00:29:57.680 --> 00:29:58.519
<v Speaker 2>Everything is awkward.

597
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:01.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, And he's always so stoned. He's always Andrew

598
00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:04.079
<v Speaker 3>Garfield's character has always just blazed out of his mind.

599
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:06.759
<v Speaker 3>His eyes are like half closed and he's like mumbling,

600
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:08.720
<v Speaker 3>always into senses.

601
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:14.680
<v Speaker 2>He uh uh wakes up after kind of blacking out

602
00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:16.720
<v Speaker 2>after being drugged at this party the next day in

603
00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:20.720
<v Speaker 2>this graveyard and he talks to his mom. She mentions

604
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:26.440
<v Speaker 2>movies and Janet Gainer, this actress from the old days

605
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:27.799
<v Speaker 2>of Hollywood. By the way I looked her up, she

606
00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:31.480
<v Speaker 2>was in uh, how to Be a Star or how

607
00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:35.359
<v Speaker 2>to Spot a Star, something about women becoming stars in Hollywood.

608
00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:39.279
<v Speaker 2>Basically it's her is her big famous movie and then

609
00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:43.000
<v Speaker 2>she so in other words, that's hinting at all of

610
00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:46.240
<v Speaker 2>these hose around him, is they think they're going to

611
00:30:46.319 --> 00:30:49.000
<v Speaker 2>be stars. They're trying to climb that ladder and it's

612
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:52.440
<v Speaker 2>all essentially run by a giant colt. Uh and the

613
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:53.880
<v Speaker 2>only way that you get to the top is basically

614
00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:56.880
<v Speaker 2>being a prostitute. And we're starting to learn that. Oh wait,

615
00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:59.839
<v Speaker 2>turns out a lot of the A list actresses basically

616
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:01.599
<v Speaker 2>just slept their way to the top. This is part

617
00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:03.200
<v Speaker 2>of the whole Weinstein stuff right.

618
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:04.759
<v Speaker 3>Right right, and this is all coming out this film

619
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:08.000
<v Speaker 3>just came out during all this madness too. And all

620
00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:10.519
<v Speaker 3>the girls he's been talking to he finds he sees

621
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:11.759
<v Speaker 3>a few of them in movies.

622
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:12.240
<v Speaker 2>Right.

623
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:14.160
<v Speaker 3>He ends up like, and everyone's trying to get parts, right,

624
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:16.960
<v Speaker 3>it's just the la scene. Everyone's trying to get recognized,

625
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:19.799
<v Speaker 3>get attention, but everybody's just totally lost, has no idea

626
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:22.599
<v Speaker 3>who they are, what they're about. They have no values,

627
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:23.359
<v Speaker 3>no morals.

628
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:24.160
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

629
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:28.920
<v Speaker 3>The only like references to uh, you know, Christianity or blasphemous.

630
00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:31.200
<v Speaker 3>It's you know, Jesus is uh is the head of

631
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:34.599
<v Speaker 3>this vampire band. And it's just it's just totally twisted

632
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:37.799
<v Speaker 3>reality that they're living in. And yeah, all you're right,

633
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:40.000
<v Speaker 3>all the all the female characters in this movie were

634
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.119
<v Speaker 3>literal prostitutes, you find out.

635
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:45.839
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's what he So when he that night he

636
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:48.440
<v Speaker 2>leaves the graveyard, he goes to this party, which again

637
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:50.359
<v Speaker 2>is that a graveyard, which is interesting because they're doing

638
00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:53.440
<v Speaker 2>a the hipsters are doing an independent movie showing at

639
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:56.400
<v Speaker 2>the graveyard, and so everybody's just kind of hanging out

640
00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:58.720
<v Speaker 2>and chilling and he's watching the movie and he sees

641
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:03.279
<v Speaker 2>these these you know, mediocre actresses in this independent film

642
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:06.680
<v Speaker 2>and he looks over at these this that pirate, that

643
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:09.000
<v Speaker 2>goofy pirate dude that he saw at the beginning at

644
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:12.319
<v Speaker 2>the party of the chicks apartment, and he's got these

645
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.599
<v Speaker 2>two hose on his arm, and he's like, wait a minute,

646
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:18.160
<v Speaker 2>he said, that's the chicks from the movie. So he's noticing,

647
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:20.359
<v Speaker 2>like you said, he's starting to see all these are

648
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:23.440
<v Speaker 2>people in ads. He sees a girl on a billboard,

649
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:25.960
<v Speaker 2>he meets her at a party. He sees these hose

650
00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:27.839
<v Speaker 2>in this you know, in this movie, So like you said,

651
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:29.559
<v Speaker 2>they're they're all in trying to get in the scene,

652
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:33.880
<v Speaker 2>get attention, get noticed, and big surprise, turns out they're

653
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:40.000
<v Speaker 2>also prostitutes. He's pleasuring himself later in the movie, raunchy scene,

654
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:42.640
<v Speaker 2>but he notices in one of the dirty mags he's got,

655
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:46.720
<v Speaker 2>he sees this ad for escorts and it was the

656
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:48.880
<v Speaker 2>chick that was in the independent movie who was also

657
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:51.119
<v Speaker 2>the hoe of the pirate.

658
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, and the sequence that leads up to it,

659
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:57.240
<v Speaker 3>it's so it's the perfect like the whole millennial's reality, right.

660
00:32:57.279 --> 00:32:59.799
<v Speaker 3>So he goes home, he's like stoned, playing Mario with

661
00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:02.720
<v Speaker 3>his friend and his friend's got a fedora on he's

662
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:04.839
<v Speaker 3>a pull up a screener. I've got the uh.

663
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:11.200
<v Speaker 2>He's the total skeptic Fedora hipster. I mean, Fedoras are

664
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:13.720
<v Speaker 2>the atheist retards, but for all intents and purposes, the

665
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:14.559
<v Speaker 2>same type of dude.

666
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:17.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, he's like the standard hipster guy. He's got

667
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:19.519
<v Speaker 3>this lame little tattoo on his arm and stuff, and

668
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:23.920
<v Speaker 3>he's playing Mario. He's got the glasses and he's got,

669
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:26.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, some video game themed sweatshirt. And the dude's

670
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:29.960
<v Speaker 3>laying there, he's stoned, and he's he's reading through this

671
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:32.200
<v Speaker 3>book about like code breaking or something like that.

672
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:35.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he starts reading about ciphers and codes because he's

673
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:42.319
<v Speaker 2>heard that the vampires have a a backmasking, subliminal message

674
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:44.400
<v Speaker 2>in one of their records, one of their songs.

675
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:46.599
<v Speaker 3>And then he starts listening to the song backwards.

676
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:50.160
<v Speaker 2>He starts listening. He's intrigued with the idea, and so

677
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:52.720
<v Speaker 2>he's reading about ciphers and codes and he finds out, oh,

678
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:54.920
<v Speaker 2>this is a real thing. There really are ciphers and codes.

679
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:57.720
<v Speaker 2>And there's this important scene that a lot of people

680
00:33:57.720 --> 00:33:59.720
<v Speaker 2>forgot because he got squirted by a skunk when he

681
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:01.880
<v Speaker 2>was out doing his investigations, which is kind of funny

682
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:03.839
<v Speaker 2>because he keeps stinking all throughout the movie. He smells

683
00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:04.599
<v Speaker 2>like shit, even.

684
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:06.160
<v Speaker 3>Before he got scored him got by the skunk. Did

685
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:08.760
<v Speaker 3>you notice that there they introduced the theme of him

686
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:11.880
<v Speaker 3>smelling or everything smelling in his apartment even before the

687
00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:13.119
<v Speaker 3>squnt the skunk's did.

688
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:19.039
<v Speaker 2>That's funny? Yeah, So he he uh uh. He gets

689
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:20.760
<v Speaker 2>squared by the skunk, and then and he's having to

690
00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:24.199
<v Speaker 2>wash the tomato juice and his halfway girlfriend that's this

691
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:26.400
<v Speaker 2>actress that he's just sleeping with, shows up. She comes

692
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:29.360
<v Speaker 2>over and she's like, and she had noticed too when

693
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:31.559
<v Speaker 2>she was there a few nights before that. He has

694
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:34.679
<v Speaker 2>these notebooks by his bed where he's been writing about

695
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:37.719
<v Speaker 2>codes in pop culture, but he's scared to tell anybody

696
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:39.679
<v Speaker 2>because he thinks, you know, they're gonna think I'm crazy,

697
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:41.880
<v Speaker 2>so he keeps it to himself. So then he decides

698
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:44.400
<v Speaker 2>to divulge this to her because he's noticed a lot

699
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:46.440
<v Speaker 2>more things. He's like, do you ever think that the elite,

700
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:49.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, live completely different and they speak to one

701
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:51.639
<v Speaker 2>another in codes? And maybe all this stuff in pop

702
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:55.559
<v Speaker 2>culture is actually about something else, It's not just you know,

703
00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:58.719
<v Speaker 2>pop culture, it's also sending a message, and maybe there's

704
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:02.960
<v Speaker 2>meanings being bad and and maybe you know, rich people

705
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:03.800
<v Speaker 2>actually run shit.

706
00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:10.880
<v Speaker 6>And she's like, yes, don't you just.

707
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:14.199
<v Speaker 3>Want to fuck and eat saltines and drink orange juice.

708
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:18.960
<v Speaker 2>So he can't tell anybody because you know, he knows

709
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:21.039
<v Speaker 2>it sounds crazy. But he's getting deeper and deeper and

710
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:22.920
<v Speaker 2>deeper down this rabbit hole, and it is eventually going

711
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:28.079
<v Speaker 2>to completely obsess him. Pop culture and mainstream media are

712
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:31.320
<v Speaker 2>coded languages that operate on multiple levels, so he starts

713
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:34.639
<v Speaker 2>noticing predictive programming. He says, maybe rich people actually know things,

714
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:36.840
<v Speaker 2>and they know more than we do, and we don't

715
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:39.519
<v Speaker 2>know shit. That's what he tells her, and she's like, yeah, whatever,

716
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:46.320
<v Speaker 2>you're insane. Let's see then we introduce the hobo characters sorright.

717
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:50.679
<v Speaker 2>So after all this, he starts tracking down this message

718
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:54.960
<v Speaker 2>that's in the songs of this dumb band. And I

719
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.119
<v Speaker 2>forget how he breaks it, but it's something to do

720
00:35:57.199 --> 00:36:00.280
<v Speaker 2>with like the different chords on the in the song

721
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:02.119
<v Speaker 2>correspond to letters or something like that.

722
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:04.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it's it's some kind of schizophrenic sounding,

723
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.480
<v Speaker 3>you know. Yeah, the thing and what I thought was

724
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:11.360
<v Speaker 3>funny is when he had his revelation, Like his whole

725
00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:14.760
<v Speaker 3>revelation thing is all tied in with him masturbating.

726
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:16.159
<v Speaker 2>Right, So that was weird.

727
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:19.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like the millennials version of like their satanic

728
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:23.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, divine revelation comes through them masturbating sex magic. Yeah,

729
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:24.039
<v Speaker 3>pop culture.

730
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:26.880
<v Speaker 2>In fact, Croley even said that the masturbation should be

731
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:30.800
<v Speaker 2>uh direct at energy and sex magic. So it's not

732
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:33.440
<v Speaker 2>just pleasure. You're supposed to get, you know, enlightenment and

733
00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:35.320
<v Speaker 2>revelation out of even masturbation.

734
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:37.400
<v Speaker 3>So and when he's jerking off, he's got a here,

735
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:39.239
<v Speaker 3>got a screen pulled up right here, He's got Kurt

736
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:42.599
<v Speaker 3>Cobain poster right behind him, which is uh. I just

737
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:45.519
<v Speaker 3>always think that's interest. There's a lot of Kirk Cobain references.

738
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:48.079
<v Speaker 2>There are because he's he's a big fan of Nirvana

739
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:51.440
<v Speaker 2>and Kirk Cobain. He almost idolizes them. And that's that's

740
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:54.639
<v Speaker 2>relevant because when he gets to the old rich Man,

741
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:57.079
<v Speaker 2>the old rich Man is going to shatter his idols.

742
00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:59.719
<v Speaker 2>He's going to tell him that his idols didn't even

743
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:01.280
<v Speaker 2>write their own songs. Yeah.

744
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:03.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so's he's jerking off And I just thought it

745
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:05.119
<v Speaker 3>was so funny. The pictures he's jerking off to. It's

746
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:08.960
<v Speaker 3>just all these old magazines and like just weird picture people.

747
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:11.519
<v Speaker 3>He's got People magazine, He's got this old version of

748
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:14.199
<v Speaker 3>this old playboy that I guess he says earlier that

749
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.599
<v Speaker 3>it was his first porn or something like that. Right,

750
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:20.840
<v Speaker 3>so he's got this mythologized you know, pornography thing in

751
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:23.760
<v Speaker 3>his mind. And uh, you know, his his revelations come

752
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:27.880
<v Speaker 3>when he's jerking off to pop culture, you know, trash

753
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:29.760
<v Speaker 3>magazines that are just sitting there on his h.

754
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:32.360
<v Speaker 2>That is an interesting point. So it's almost like pop

755
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:35.480
<v Speaker 2>culture self is masturbatory. It doesn't even have any meaning

756
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:42.360
<v Speaker 2>beyond just completely sterile, empty wastefulness basically.

757
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, and I guess you know that's his procreative energy, right,

758
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:49.039
<v Speaker 3>Like this energy could be using to you know, find

759
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:52.559
<v Speaker 3>a wife, to make children, to you know, make his

760
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:55.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe improve on his culture, try and you know,

761
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:58.079
<v Speaker 3>somehow be a you know, a reasonable or not reasonable,

762
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:00.840
<v Speaker 3>but a you know, a virtuous person. It's just it

763
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:05.280
<v Speaker 3>all gets used for chasing women, getting his car back,

764
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:08.840
<v Speaker 3>and getting money, and you know, just this weird chasing

765
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:13.360
<v Speaker 3>down of this esoteric illusion in pop culture that it

766
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:17.239
<v Speaker 3>ends it ends like in him figuring like almost being human,

767
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:21.079
<v Speaker 3>sacrificed himself, right, Actually, his whole journey ends up in

768
00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:22.760
<v Speaker 3>him almost giving.

769
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, that's the thing is is is if

770
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:31.000
<v Speaker 2>you he idolizes these people who are these mavens of

771
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:34.280
<v Speaker 2>pop culture. And so he's in the scene, he's hanging

772
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.559
<v Speaker 2>out with people in the scene. He's realizing they're all ridiculous.

773
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:41.199
<v Speaker 2>He's realizing they're basically just prostitutes. And so he's starting

774
00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:46.280
<v Speaker 2>to see that the the the star making machinery is

775
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:50.519
<v Speaker 2>a giant, you know, apparatus that creates this stuff. It's

776
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:55.079
<v Speaker 2>not actually genius musicians who you know, just rise to

777
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:58.440
<v Speaker 2>the top because of their amazing phenomenal talent, right right,

778
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:02.079
<v Speaker 2>that's the mythology that that's good crushed here. And so

779
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:04.840
<v Speaker 2>he's realizing it's not just about his musicians that he likes,

780
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:08.000
<v Speaker 2>but it's also about you know, the actors and the

781
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:11.320
<v Speaker 2>actresses in these films that he likes. So he's he's

782
00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:13.360
<v Speaker 2>realizing this codes are real. He doesn't know what to do.

783
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Our world is full of these codes. He starts noticing

784
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:21.320
<v Speaker 2>it everywhere, billboards, video games. He's starting to see symbols codes. Right,

785
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:23.320
<v Speaker 2>so he's awakened in a sense.

786
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:28.679
<v Speaker 3>The Nintendo Power magazine becomes his another one of his

787
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:31.199
<v Speaker 3>ciphers too. So it's just just all pop culture is

788
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:34.320
<v Speaker 3>leading him down this path to some sort of an

789
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:36.119
<v Speaker 3>ultimate end in some sort of realization.

790
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:40.719
<v Speaker 2>I can't read my notes here in a couple of

791
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:45.280
<v Speaker 2>these places, but so basically, yeah, so what this cipher

792
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:48.039
<v Speaker 2>tells him to do, Oh, this is the Griffith Observatory,

793
00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:51.519
<v Speaker 2>so this is important. So the cipher tells him, if

794
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:54.199
<v Speaker 2>you figure this out, go to the Griffith Observatory and

795
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:57.559
<v Speaker 2>rub the head of Newton which is a statue of

796
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:00.880
<v Speaker 2>bust of Newton there or or is it James Dean?

797
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:01.639
<v Speaker 3>It's James Dean.

798
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:04.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's right, Yeah, And I've been to that. And

799
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:06.360
<v Speaker 2>if you go to the grip of Observatory. What's weird

800
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:08.360
<v Speaker 2>about it is that the whole thing is super Masonic,

801
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:12.119
<v Speaker 2>like it's super occultic. Everything about the architecture of the symbolism,

802
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.239
<v Speaker 2>the whole thing is is mega Masonic. So I thought

803
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:17.280
<v Speaker 2>that was significant. So he goes there, he rubs ahead

804
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:19.840
<v Speaker 2>of James Dean and this hobo shows up. Who's the

805
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:23.079
<v Speaker 2>King of the hoboes, and he doesn't know what to do.

806
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:26.079
<v Speaker 2>He's like, what is this real? The hobo says, put

807
00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:30.360
<v Speaker 2>your blindfold on. Masonic blindfold, right. The hobo leads him

808
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:35.320
<v Speaker 2>to a bomb shelter underground and locks him in there.

809
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:39.199
<v Speaker 2>So he's underneath La. And by the way, there are

810
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:43.519
<v Speaker 2>reportedly tunnels all under LA. But so he's under there

811
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:44.039
<v Speaker 2>and he doesn't know it.

812
00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:46.039
<v Speaker 3>Blindfolds him right, just like you know, this kind of

813
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:50.320
<v Speaker 3>Masonic initiation. And right then they see that they see

814
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:52.760
<v Speaker 3>a coyote on the way, right, or he hears the cot.

815
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:57.079
<v Speaker 2>He says, the coyotes. We follow the coyotes because they

816
00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:00.280
<v Speaker 2>tell us more than anybody else, or something like the

817
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:01.079
<v Speaker 2>codes are here.

818
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:03.880
<v Speaker 3>To help us spiritual animals. It's got this kind of

819
00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:06.199
<v Speaker 3>like hokey spirituality.

820
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:09.320
<v Speaker 2>That it's this weird animistic, very sort of simple pagan

821
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:12.679
<v Speaker 2>type view. But that will come up later with with

822
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:16.840
<v Speaker 2>the with the elite, the billionaires. But so he realizes

823
00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:19.199
<v Speaker 2>down there that there's this giant all seeing eye above

824
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.400
<v Speaker 2>this bomb shelter underground. He's like, what is this And

825
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:24.639
<v Speaker 2>it turns out it's just an old bomb shelter that's

826
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:31.480
<v Speaker 2>being renovated for somebody to live down there. So he's like, what,

827
00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:34.480
<v Speaker 2>So he follows this this hallway and he crawls up

828
00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:37.280
<v Speaker 2>and he doesn't he crawl out of the coffee shop

829
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:40.119
<v Speaker 2>at the beginning, I think there's like he finds this.

830
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:44.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, the bomb shelter's weird because there's plastic all

831
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:46.840
<v Speaker 3>over it, right, there's like it's got these plastic covered

832
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:51.719
<v Speaker 3>I've got it pulled up here.

833
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:54.840
<v Speaker 2>It's being renovated for another billionaire to go down there.

834
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:57.440
<v Speaker 3>And there's toilets. There's like five toilets in a row

835
00:41:57.519 --> 00:41:59.440
<v Speaker 3>at the end of the room.

836
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:03.239
<v Speaker 2>It's just really weird because each each billionaire has like

837
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:08.400
<v Speaker 2>three or four wives, right right. So so he's like,

838
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:10.880
<v Speaker 2>so there's an old bomb shoulder just being renovated. I

839
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:14.679
<v Speaker 2>don't get it. He crawls out. Uh, there's a secret

840
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:16.800
<v Speaker 2>exit passage that I think lets him out in the

841
00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:18.400
<v Speaker 2>coffee shop that we see at the.

842
00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:20.320
<v Speaker 3>There's a passage. But it's kind of like it reminds

843
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:23.320
<v Speaker 3>me of those old nineties videos remember with like exploring

844
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:25.800
<v Speaker 3>the Pyramids, like finding the secret chamber. It looks like

845
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:28.480
<v Speaker 3>he's you know, climbing climbing to the King's chamber of

846
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:29.760
<v Speaker 3>the pyramid or something like that.

847
00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he just comes up out of the like

848
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:35.599
<v Speaker 2>the kitchen in a in a stupid coffee shop. It's

849
00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:37.639
<v Speaker 2>like it's like it's very cartoonish in that regard.

850
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:40.840
<v Speaker 3>But he comes out and it's and it's he's behind

851
00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:43.519
<v Speaker 3>I've got to pull the right now. He comes out

852
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:46.119
<v Speaker 3>and he's in the milk aisle of like a convenience store.

853
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's okay, okay, so.

854
00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:50.239
<v Speaker 3>And then he grabs and this is another like one

855
00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:52.559
<v Speaker 3>of the only scenes where somebody you know, consumes food.

856
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:55.559
<v Speaker 3>He steals. He opens up the milk and drinks the

857
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:58.679
<v Speaker 3>you know, the milk from the display there, and then

858
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:00.360
<v Speaker 3>he and he takes off.

859
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:07.679
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let's see we're progressing here. So he discovers

860
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:11.239
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, this is where he gets the part where

861
00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:13.440
<v Speaker 2>he calls his buddy and he's like, turns out the

862
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.599
<v Speaker 2>conspiracy theorist has been killed. And he goes and he

863
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:19.920
<v Speaker 2>looks at the conspiracy theorists surveillance cameras because he had

864
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:23.280
<v Speaker 2>them all set up, and the surveillance camera caught the

865
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:28.320
<v Speaker 2>owl this owl headed woman who shows up and supposedly,

866
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:30.159
<v Speaker 2>if she gives you a kiss, that means you're about

867
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:33.960
<v Speaker 2>to die. So he's assassinated basically by whoever's running shit.

868
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:36.400
<v Speaker 3>She kind looks like an Egyptian deity or something.

869
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Right, she looks like, yeah, exactly, an owl headed deity

870
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:44.280
<v Speaker 2>of some kind. And then uh so he starts getting

871
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:46.280
<v Speaker 2>friked out because he thinks, oh, you know, they're gonna

872
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:49.800
<v Speaker 2>know about me. He calls his buddy who's Who's a

873
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:51.559
<v Speaker 2>scene guy, one of the guys in the scene, and

874
00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:53.559
<v Speaker 2>he's like, hey, can you get me in touch with

875
00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:56.000
<v Speaker 2>the Seven Brides singer. He's like, I need to ask

876
00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:58.639
<v Speaker 2>some questions. He's like, yeah, we're having We're having a

877
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:02.440
<v Speaker 2>chess party. Everybody's getting sucked up and playing chess, so

878
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:06.079
<v Speaker 2>come on over. So they go. They go to the

879
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:08.039
<v Speaker 2>the party, and everybody at this party is all the

880
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:10.079
<v Speaker 2>people he's been seeing the entire time throughout the movie.

881
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:12.639
<v Speaker 2>So it's all these hoes and thoughts from the rest

882
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:15.199
<v Speaker 2>of the movie. You're at this party. They're all playing chess,

883
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:20.000
<v Speaker 2>which is just to be ironic, and then he punches

884
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Dracula in the bathroom. We see the poop and he's like,

885
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:25.039
<v Speaker 2>who wrote your who wrote your song? He's like, I

886
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:27.079
<v Speaker 2>don't write my song. He's like it's just a company

887
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:28.559
<v Speaker 2>gives us those and they tell us what to do.

888
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:31.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I think he says something like, I wrote

889
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:34.480
<v Speaker 3>some of the songs, but all the ones, not the hits,

890
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:36.320
<v Speaker 3>all the hits, they they just told me what's right,

891
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:37.639
<v Speaker 3>Like they told me, you know, they told me how

892
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:39.440
<v Speaker 3>to perform it. I don't I don't do nothing. I

893
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:43.280
<v Speaker 3>don't know nothing. And he's very he's very weak. And

894
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:45.760
<v Speaker 3>and you know this character, he's not like this powerful,

895
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:47.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, he's a fraud.

896
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's basically just an actor, basically.

897
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:53.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and he's portrayed on the the media in this film,

898
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:58.000
<v Speaker 3>he's portrayed as this like amazing esoteric, like badass like rattle,

899
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:01.559
<v Speaker 3>like so satanic and so sick. But he's just he's

900
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:02.199
<v Speaker 3>just a pussy.

901
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:10.199
<v Speaker 2>He's real a total weak whoosy. Yeah. So so Andrew

902
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:15.239
<v Speaker 2>Garfield says, all right. He hears something overhears something about

903
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:17.320
<v Speaker 2>these really really rich dudes that have like their own

904
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:23.039
<v Speaker 2>neighborhood where they have elite parties, and he asks the

905
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:28.320
<v Speaker 2>redheaded actress prostitute that he saw earlier. He invites her over.

906
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:31.599
<v Speaker 2>He sees her, ad calls, calls her, tells her to

907
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:34.119
<v Speaker 2>come over. She shows up and he's like, hey, take

908
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:40.519
<v Speaker 2>me to this elite neighborhood where you had these parties.

909
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:43.880
<v Speaker 2>I want to see who's running this shit. And she's

910
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:46.000
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, she's like you can go. You can go

911
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:47.760
<v Speaker 2>to every house except one house. There's one house you're

912
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:49.760
<v Speaker 2>not allowed to go to. So naturally that's the house

913
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:53.719
<v Speaker 2>he wants to go to. So he gets the hoes

914
00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:56.960
<v Speaker 2>take him to this neighborhood. He finds this one house

915
00:45:57.000 --> 00:45:59.800
<v Speaker 2>that's the one you can't go to, and he breaks

916
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:05.639
<v Speaker 2>in and he finds some old dude playing piano, writing songs,

917
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:09.880
<v Speaker 2>and there's every kind of guitar, all kinds of you know,

918
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:14.840
<v Speaker 2>lavish instruments everywhere, and he's like, what is this and

919
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:18.519
<v Speaker 2>basically spoiler alert, the rich guy says, oh, yeah, your

920
00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:21.440
<v Speaker 2>entire pop culture going all the way back to fifties

921
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:23.960
<v Speaker 2>or sixties. He's like, I wrote all that. He's like,

922
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:27.639
<v Speaker 2>that's all me. He's like, you like Nirvana, I'm Nirvana,

923
00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:29.519
<v Speaker 2>you like Britney Spear, you know whatever.

924
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:32.199
<v Speaker 3>He starts playing these songs at his piano, is just like,

925
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:35.280
<v Speaker 3>you think that's your You think these artists actually wrote this.

926
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:36.800
<v Speaker 3>This was all me, and.

927
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:40.639
<v Speaker 2>It was all created, and the stars are just the fronts.

928
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:43.480
<v Speaker 2>They're part of this machinery. They don't even write most

929
00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:45.519
<v Speaker 2>of their songs. This guy writes most of the songs, right,

930
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:50.000
<v Speaker 2>This is essentially Dave mcgawan type research here. And he

931
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Andrew Garfield freaks out and takes a guitar and busts

932
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:55.119
<v Speaker 2>this old dude in the head.

933
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:58.000
<v Speaker 3>The guitar that he takes is Kurt Cobain's guitar too.

934
00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he takes Kurt cobains guitar buss because he can't

935
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:04.400
<v Speaker 2>fathom that the pop culture that he idolizes, that he's

936
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:07.679
<v Speaker 2>controlled by the mind control is breaking down. So he

937
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:11.599
<v Speaker 2>just basically loses his shit. He can't he can't take it. Yeah.

938
00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:14.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, his whole reality is based on this pop culture

939
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:16.280
<v Speaker 3>consumption of these exactly.

940
00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:16.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, the.

941
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:20.920
<v Speaker 3>Music, the foods, the partying, it's all the imagery. It's

942
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:24.159
<v Speaker 3>all pop cultured trash, you know. I mean, it's manufactured,

943
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:27.840
<v Speaker 3>just like fruity pebbles are manufactured, and.

944
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:30.920
<v Speaker 2>It's all synthetic. It's all it's essentially junk food for

945
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:35.079
<v Speaker 2>the mind, for the soul. The pop culture is the

946
00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:38.119
<v Speaker 2>junk food that the junk food is to the body. Right,

947
00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:45.800
<v Speaker 2>So he's realizing they're all hoes, they're all it's all scam,

948
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:49.800
<v Speaker 2>it's all a facaw, it's all front. I've decoded this,

949
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:52.400
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, he's like, there's something behind this. So

950
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.039
<v Speaker 2>he's going to track down the billionaires now. Now he's ready.

951
00:47:55.880 --> 00:48:01.639
<v Speaker 2>He figures out that one of the chip no, I'm

952
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:03.559
<v Speaker 2>sorry forgot, there's a whole other level to the cipher.

953
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:07.360
<v Speaker 2>There's another layer of the cipher, which is the Zelda map,

954
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:10.400
<v Speaker 2>matches up to the map of the in the box

955
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:13.239
<v Speaker 2>of Cereal, and that map lays on top of the

956
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:16.679
<v Speaker 2>map of La which tells him where the billionaires are

957
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:21.519
<v Speaker 2>chilling in their huts and in their fallout shelters. So

958
00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:24.079
<v Speaker 2>he decodes all this. He tracks down the last one

959
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:26.039
<v Speaker 2>of the last places he hasn't gone yet, which is

960
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:30.559
<v Speaker 2>some weird marking over by the Hollywood sign right across

961
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:33.599
<v Speaker 2>from it, and there's this hut. And he goes in

962
00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:36.440
<v Speaker 2>this hut and there's a couple of the hose that

963
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:40.800
<v Speaker 2>he's seen before, and this old, you know, boomer age

964
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:43.639
<v Speaker 2>white dude in there with looking like a Jesus hippie

965
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:47.679
<v Speaker 2>type guy, and they have this really awkward, hilarious conversation

966
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:51.639
<v Speaker 2>that's very innocuous and very silly, and he's like, what

967
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:54.760
<v Speaker 2>are you doing. He's like, oh, we're preparing our tombs.

968
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:59.440
<v Speaker 2>It's like your tombs. He's like, yeah, we're going to ascend.

969
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:03.079
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, what do you mean. He's like, uh, yeah,

970
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:04.800
<v Speaker 2>we don't believe in heaven and all that stuff we

971
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:07.119
<v Speaker 2>believe in, you know, like Egyptian religion, like pharaohs. We're

972
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:10.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna ascend and go to another realm away from this

973
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:12.559
<v Speaker 2>crazy world. We've already had all the pleasures and fun

974
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:16.159
<v Speaker 2>that we could h so we're going to entomb ourselves

975
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:20.199
<v Speaker 2>in these fallout shelters, surround ourselves by concrete so we

976
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:22.760
<v Speaker 2>can't get out, and we're going to die with our

977
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:26.599
<v Speaker 2>three or four beautiful bribes. So he can't believe this,

978
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:29.280
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, can I talk to you know the

979
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:31.480
<v Speaker 2>chick that I liked from the beginning of the movie.

980
00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:33.679
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, yeah, she's in another one of the shelters.

981
00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:35.639
<v Speaker 2>Let me pull her up on the skype, right. So

982
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:38.480
<v Speaker 2>they pull her up and she's like, Hey, did you

983
00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:42.360
<v Speaker 2>get a new puppy dog? And he's like, are you're

984
00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:45.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna die? And she's like do you think I'm the

985
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:51.719
<v Speaker 2>right decision? And the other billionaires like, hey, hey, don't

986
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:55.760
<v Speaker 2>upset her. She's enjoying herself. So it's all very just blase,

987
00:49:55.800 --> 00:49:58.039
<v Speaker 2>a very apathetic.

988
00:49:57.480 --> 00:50:00.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, life death like whatever, dude.

989
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:05.079
<v Speaker 2>Everything is apathetic, right, nothing matters. And even the billionaire

990
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:07.880
<v Speaker 2>elite who believe in this cult. And what's funny is

991
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:11.159
<v Speaker 2>that the wives they all buy into like the new age,

992
00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:15.159
<v Speaker 2>basic bitch bullshit, right, that they're going, I'm gonna ascend

993
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:19.400
<v Speaker 2>through you know, meditation and consciousness and all this nuts.

994
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:21.760
<v Speaker 2>And the billionaires are a little more you know, maybe

995
00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:23.639
<v Speaker 2>this guy believes that. Maybe the other ones don't. They're

996
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:26.079
<v Speaker 2>a little more cynical. Maybe they just see it as

997
00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:28.440
<v Speaker 2>a way to you know, a thousand years from now,

998
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:31.719
<v Speaker 2>who's going to know who anybody was outside of you know,

999
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:34.000
<v Speaker 2>the tomb? Right? If you look back at ancient the

1000
00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:36.199
<v Speaker 2>ancient world, who do we know? Well, we know about

1001
00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:39.760
<v Speaker 2>pharaohs because they had giant pyramids and tombs, right, Or

1002
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:41.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe there's a transhumanist ollment to where they think they're

1003
00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:43.800
<v Speaker 2>going to be, you know, resurrected or something like that.

1004
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:46.440
<v Speaker 3>The millionaires they're not, like, they're not super old guys

1005
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:49.079
<v Speaker 3>the killers. So they're kind of like just past their prime, right,

1006
00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:52.119
<v Speaker 3>they're like maybe in their fifties or something, maybe late

1007
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:55.119
<v Speaker 3>fifties max. So they're just you know, they're so they're

1008
00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:58.400
<v Speaker 3>so worn out all their sensory perceptions so much with

1009
00:50:58.480 --> 00:50:59.519
<v Speaker 3>all the sax.

1010
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Drugs, rock and rold that all the pleasures.

1011
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:04.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, they don't they don't want to live anymore.

1012
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:06.559
<v Speaker 3>Like there's no that maybe they don't get the same

1013
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:08.360
<v Speaker 3>pleasure out of their their bo.

1014
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:12.559
<v Speaker 2>Since they could control everything else, the last thing that

1015
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.400
<v Speaker 2>they wanted to control was when they would die, so

1016
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:17.760
<v Speaker 2>that they would be subject to somebody else determining when

1017
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:20.079
<v Speaker 2>they die. They're going to decide when they die. They're

1018
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:21.800
<v Speaker 2>going to determine the manner in which they die. So

1019
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:24.400
<v Speaker 2>it's a final kind of act of rebellion from their perspective,

1020
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:30.679
<v Speaker 2>in this kind of satanic way. But so the interesting

1021
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:33.639
<v Speaker 2>part of that is that you know, all throughout he

1022
00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:38.159
<v Speaker 2>has noticed that all of the synchronicities are real, the

1023
00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:41.760
<v Speaker 2>conspiracies are real. It applies to pop culture. It's a controlled,

1024
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:44.079
<v Speaker 2>top down system. You don't rise in it unless you're

1025
00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:48.840
<v Speaker 2>compromised in a whore and all this stuff. But the

1026
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:52.559
<v Speaker 2>message of it seems to be when Andrew Garfield gets

1027
00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:55.840
<v Speaker 2>back and the reality of this world hits him, he realizes,

1028
00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:59.599
<v Speaker 2>I can't even pay my rent, my car got possessed, repossessed,

1029
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:03.800
<v Speaker 2>He's like, what's the point? Basically, And so the weird

1030
00:52:03.960 --> 00:52:06.960
<v Speaker 2>ending of this is this sort of millennial nihilism, this

1031
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:09.000
<v Speaker 2>hedonism of just, you know what, I should just move

1032
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:10.880
<v Speaker 2>in with the hippie chick that I was spying on

1033
00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:13.840
<v Speaker 2>the beginning, you know, the hippie boomer chick. Whether her

1034
00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:19.519
<v Speaker 2>booby's out, I just move in with her. That's almost like,

1035
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:22.519
<v Speaker 2>in other words, it's like, Okay, so all of this

1036
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:26.199
<v Speaker 2>conspiracy stuff is all true. It's very true. It's all

1037
00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:30.199
<v Speaker 2>run by very wealthy, elite people. But so what what's

1038
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:33.280
<v Speaker 2>the point? Man? I mean, I'm not saying that the

1039
00:52:33.320 --> 00:52:36.320
<v Speaker 2>movie is totally nihilistic, but it's almost like it's asking

1040
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:38.719
<v Speaker 2>that question, Well, what is the point. No one's going

1041
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:41.360
<v Speaker 2>to believe this, nobody's going to go down the rabbit

1042
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:45.159
<v Speaker 2>hole that far. It's too crazy. Yeah, so it's all

1043
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:46.480
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of hoes and thoughts.

1044
00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:48.840
<v Speaker 3>He talks to that to the King of the Bums

1045
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:50.119
<v Speaker 3>at the end, too, right, doesn't the King of the

1046
00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:52.599
<v Speaker 3>Bums kind of release it from them, and he tells them,

1047
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:54.760
<v Speaker 3>don't tell anybody about this, or I'll kill you basically

1048
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:55.360
<v Speaker 3>or something like that.

1049
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:57.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So he's like, okay, yeah, you figured it all out.

1050
00:52:57.880 --> 00:52:59.559
<v Speaker 2>We should kill you, but we're gonna let you go

1051
00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:01.320
<v Speaker 2>and just keep your mouth shut.

1052
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:04.239
<v Speaker 3>And and then he finished, and then he goes home,

1053
00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:08.920
<v Speaker 3>and then he suddenly, uh decides that he wants to

1054
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:13.920
<v Speaker 3>go back and uh and go reconcile his whole life

1055
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:18.800
<v Speaker 3>by moving in and sleeping with this old boomer who

1056
00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:20.679
<v Speaker 3>keeps birds and cages all around her house.

1057
00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, so I guess this is the point where

1058
00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:26.320
<v Speaker 2>it's it's somewhat debatable. Is the message of the movie,

1059
00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:29.519
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, it's all real, just give up on it.

1060
00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Or is the message of the movie don't even worry

1061
00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:34.079
<v Speaker 2>about all this conspiracy nonsense. There's no point in getting

1062
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:37.039
<v Speaker 2>into it. It's just going to drive you nuts. Uh. Just

1063
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:39.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, enjoy, enjoy the laugh the life that you have,

1064
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:43.599
<v Speaker 2>and don't try. It's almost like, don't try to go

1065
00:53:43.639 --> 00:53:47.519
<v Speaker 2>after understanding other elite classes. You're never going to understand it.

1066
00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:49.440
<v Speaker 2>If you If you've read the there's a famous book

1067
00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:52.360
<v Speaker 2>called the megas that I referenced a lot in my

1068
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:56.880
<v Speaker 2>book and the Major Megas. The Major is a similar story.

1069
00:53:56.920 --> 00:54:00.280
<v Speaker 2>It's a famous literary work by John Fowls, and it's

1070
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:04.000
<v Speaker 2>basically about some guy who's like, you know, this nihilistic

1071
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:09.199
<v Speaker 2>twenty five year old Oxford grad who's just kind of

1072
00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:12.440
<v Speaker 2>sleeping around, partying his way, drugging his way through Europe,

1073
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:16.239
<v Speaker 2>and he ends up on this island off of Greece

1074
00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:19.599
<v Speaker 2>called Fraxos, made up island, and it's owned by this

1075
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Greek billionaire who's this very entuned esotericist occultists and psychologists,

1076
00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:29.519
<v Speaker 2>and what the billionaire likes to do is set up

1077
00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:36.000
<v Speaker 2>scenarios with actors, crisis actors, basically just to test how

1078
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:40.360
<v Speaker 2>this nihilistic guy reacts. So he's he puts them through

1079
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:43.280
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of very bizarre scenarios just to mess with

1080
00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:46.920
<v Speaker 2>the dude. And I won't spoil the novel, but essentially

1081
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:48.360
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the of the novel it does

1082
00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:51.840
<v Speaker 2>reference him as a member of the Illuminati. Okay, so

1083
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:54.679
<v Speaker 2>this Greek billionaire who's in the Illuminati is basically just

1084
00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:59.480
<v Speaker 2>studying the effects of his phenomenon this on this nihilistic

1085
00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:00.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, twenty four year old.

1086
00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:02.519
<v Speaker 3>That's similar theme.

1087
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the end of the book is basically, what's it?

1088
00:55:06.519 --> 00:55:08.599
<v Speaker 2>What was the point? What were you trying to do by?

1089
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Because because the guy gets baited into going down the

1090
00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:12.679
<v Speaker 2>rabbit hole, he's like, I'm gonna figure this guy out.

1091
00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:14.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna expose him. I'm gonna see what this is

1092
00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:16.320
<v Speaker 2>all about. And then you know, at the end of

1093
00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:18.920
<v Speaker 2>the thing, it's like you don't even understand that class,

1094
00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:21.320
<v Speaker 2>Like you're not in his class of elite. The same

1095
00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:24.760
<v Speaker 2>thing that Bill Harford eyes white shut right, like I

1096
00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:26.280
<v Speaker 2>thought I was at the top of the total pool.

1097
00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I thought I was the ship man. Yeah, same idea, Right,

1098
00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:32.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm the ship Like I'm the fucking coolest motherfucker around here,

1099
00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:34.719
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, I don't give a shit about anything.

1100
00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:36.119
<v Speaker 2>And then he goes down the rabbit hole and he

1101
00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:37.920
<v Speaker 2>realizes he's not at the top of the totem pole.

1102
00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:41.119
<v Speaker 2>There's people way above him, way more powerful, way more intelligent,

1103
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:44.639
<v Speaker 2>and it's almost like, man, what was the point? So

1104
00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:47.119
<v Speaker 2>what do you think of the what do you think

1105
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:47.880
<v Speaker 2>the point of the movie is?

1106
00:55:48.960 --> 00:55:51.639
<v Speaker 3>Well, all right, so the ending of the movie I'm

1107
00:55:51.679 --> 00:55:54.800
<v Speaker 3>not so clear about, but I basically you know, pop

1108
00:55:54.840 --> 00:56:01.679
<v Speaker 3>culture as a initiate, an initiation for an entire generation

1109
00:56:01.960 --> 00:56:06.000
<v Speaker 3>and for the youth, and for basically everybody, into a

1110
00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:10.480
<v Speaker 3>mystery religion, into a specific worldview, into seeing the world

1111
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:13.599
<v Speaker 3>a certain way, consuming your life in a certain way,

1112
00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:16.280
<v Speaker 3>and thus just being consumed in this big machinery of

1113
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:19.599
<v Speaker 3>pop culture and becoming a you know, a piece of

1114
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:24.719
<v Speaker 3>of this you know, silly kind of basically nihilistic realm.

1115
00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:26.239
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know what to make of the end.

1116
00:56:26.239 --> 00:56:29.079
<v Speaker 3>There's you know, there's something with the generational divide, right,

1117
00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:31.199
<v Speaker 3>you know, it starts with him talking on the phone

1118
00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:36.360
<v Speaker 3>with his mom, uh, staring at this lady through the binoculars,

1119
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:39.519
<v Speaker 3>and she's you know, she's like the she's like one

1120
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:42.679
<v Speaker 3>of those yoga chicks, like those new agey like sex

1121
00:56:42.800 --> 00:56:46.280
<v Speaker 3>magic type people who are just so husely liberated, you know.

1122
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:50.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean, lots of these boomer hippies kind of haunt

1123
00:56:50.320 --> 00:56:53.519
<v Speaker 3>the town I live in, so I'm really familiar with

1124
00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:56.760
<v Speaker 3>this type of energy, really into yoga and you know,

1125
00:56:58.880 --> 00:57:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Joseph Campbell stuff like that.

1126
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:03.719
<v Speaker 2>So it's basically I spoke, Yeah, I've spoken to Banker

1127
00:57:03.760 --> 00:57:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Canyon and the whole essentially the whole audience was this, well.

1128
00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:10.559
<v Speaker 3>Right, topless sixty year old women, who are you know,

1129
00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:13.960
<v Speaker 3>sleeping in a polyamorous relationship with some twenty five year

1130
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:16.239
<v Speaker 3>old dude probably you know, there's this is it's weird,

1131
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:18.440
<v Speaker 3>like there there is a world of this type of

1132
00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:21.119
<v Speaker 3>uh stuff. And I don't know what to make of

1133
00:57:21.159 --> 00:57:22.880
<v Speaker 3>the ending. So it's something to do with his mother,

1134
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:24.159
<v Speaker 3>the generational divide.

1135
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:27.239
<v Speaker 2>How I forget about the mother stuff. That's a good point, yeah.

1136
00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:29.800
<v Speaker 3>Right, perhaps, how like the boomers were initiated in this

1137
00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:32.320
<v Speaker 3>very same way with the sex, drugs and this.

1138
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:35.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're the sixties counterculture right right.

1139
00:57:35.159 --> 00:57:37.199
<v Speaker 3>And I see it as like the millennial and the

1140
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:40.320
<v Speaker 3>boomer copulating in the end of the film, basically just

1141
00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:45.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, the ultimate kind of really gross and not

1142
00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:49.119
<v Speaker 3>very pleasant to even think about reality of what pop

1143
00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:50.239
<v Speaker 3>culture has done to everybody.

1144
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:56.159
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, because the old guy who creates all the music,

1145
00:57:57.199 --> 00:58:01.920
<v Speaker 2>he is essentially he also says all your sixties revolution music.

1146
00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:04.960
<v Speaker 2>He says, I created all that exactly. He says, I

1147
00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:07.639
<v Speaker 2>gave you a revolution. That's why it's the boomers exactly.

1148
00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:11.039
<v Speaker 2>That's a good point. So it's basically boomer age to

1149
00:58:11.119 --> 00:58:14.199
<v Speaker 2>now he's like that was all completely created from the

1150
00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:17.159
<v Speaker 2>top down. And that's essentially Dave Mcowan's book, where it's

1151
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:19.320
<v Speaker 2>inside the canyon. That's the whole point of the book.

1152
00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:23.000
<v Speaker 3>I would wonder. I'm sure that whoever directed this and

1153
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:26.920
<v Speaker 3>wrote it read those books. He had to have, you know,

1154
00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:30.199
<v Speaker 3>very familiar obviously with the culture of what people are

1155
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:33.360
<v Speaker 3>saying about pop culture. But I guess the last scene

1156
00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:36.800
<v Speaker 3>is him he goes out to the balcony and he's

1157
00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:39.360
<v Speaker 3>in that Boomer's house. They're the boomers apartment, which is

1158
00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:42.039
<v Speaker 3>in the same apartment complex as him, right, so him

1159
00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:44.199
<v Speaker 3>I just right across. Yeah, yeah, So they're in this

1160
00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:47.400
<v Speaker 3>same curated environment that they don't own, right, you don't

1161
00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:49.760
<v Speaker 3>own your apartment, you live in an apartment building. And

1162
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:52.719
<v Speaker 3>he's smoking a cigarette around these birds in the cages

1163
00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:55.320
<v Speaker 3>and he's watching the I guess it's like the cops

1164
00:58:55.400 --> 00:58:58.480
<v Speaker 3>or something. No, it's the apartment. The guy who owns

1165
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:01.840
<v Speaker 3>the apartment looking at the weird symbol on the wall

1166
00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:06.079
<v Speaker 3>and trying to figure out, well, where did this kid go?

1167
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:08.239
<v Speaker 3>He owes me rent or he owes me money or

1168
00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:11.000
<v Speaker 3>some shit. And Andrew Garfield's kind of looking at him

1169
00:59:11.039 --> 00:59:14.760
<v Speaker 3>really like creepy, stoned, demonic gaze, and then I think,

1170
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:16.480
<v Speaker 3>I think it rolls rolls the credits.

1171
00:59:16.519 --> 00:59:19.880
<v Speaker 2>After that, I was trying to remember, Yeah, this is

1172
00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:22.519
<v Speaker 2>the guy who did It Follows, which is a pretty

1173
00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:25.239
<v Speaker 2>good horror movie. If you saw that, David Robert Mitchell,

1174
00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:30.199
<v Speaker 2>It It Follows was pretty good. It's pretty creepy, and

1175
00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:34.320
<v Speaker 2>the idea there was similar to this in the sense

1176
00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:40.599
<v Speaker 2>of the millennial age people living hedonistically and are there

1177
00:59:40.679 --> 00:59:43.800
<v Speaker 2>consequences for that? And then if you know, it's like

1178
00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:47.480
<v Speaker 2>the urban myth of something coming after you, you know,

1179
00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:49.039
<v Speaker 2>like it's going to get you, that kind of thing.

1180
00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:53.599
<v Speaker 2>But and I have I've watched It Follows a few

1181
00:59:53.639 --> 00:59:56.199
<v Speaker 2>times and there's a bunch of references to Dusty esque

1182
00:59:56.199 --> 00:59:58.880
<v Speaker 2>in it. So I'm not exactly sure what I think

1183
00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:03.400
<v Speaker 2>the reference to Dostievsky means. But it's a pretty good

1184
01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:06.719
<v Speaker 2>horror movie if you like independent not. It's not gory,

1185
01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:11.599
<v Speaker 2>it's just creepy. Yeah, he's definitely referencing, you know, literary

1186
01:00:11.599 --> 01:00:15.079
<v Speaker 2>works Dostoevsky. Here, he's in you know this one. He's

1187
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:20.159
<v Speaker 2>referencing a lot of David Lynch. And by the way,

1188
01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:23.079
<v Speaker 2>I had actually messaged the chick that's in it follows.

1189
01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:26.719
<v Speaker 2>We had a few messages on Facebook. I was trying

1190
01:00:26.719 --> 01:00:28.599
<v Speaker 2>to get her to come on to an interview, and

1191
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:30.079
<v Speaker 2>I thought she was gonna do it, but she ended

1192
01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:32.679
<v Speaker 2>up backing out. But I would that would have been

1193
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:35.840
<v Speaker 2>interesting because because I've only had one actress ever come

1194
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:39.360
<v Speaker 2>on Jays Analysis, they're always too I guess too scared

1195
01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:43.639
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna damage their career. But it would be funny

1196
01:00:43.639 --> 01:00:45.559
<v Speaker 2>to get the vantage point of somebody who's you know

1197
01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:46.960
<v Speaker 2>in the film, to see.

1198
01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:50.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, what'd you think about the movie? Overall? Do you?

1199
01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Did you enjoy it? I mean, it's kind of long.

1200
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:54.079
<v Speaker 3>I think it was a little lengthy.

1201
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:56.639
<v Speaker 2>It is long. That doesn't bother me. I enjoyed the

1202
01:00:56.719 --> 01:00:59.960
<v Speaker 2>use of symbolism, the use of satire. It's very comedic.

1203
01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:03.199
<v Speaker 2>It's funny in a lot of places. Overall, it's a

1204
01:01:03.199 --> 01:01:08.719
<v Speaker 2>great critique of, as you said, all the nihilism, the hedonism, consumerism,

1205
01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:13.440
<v Speaker 2>the video game vantage point of the millennial generation.

1206
01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Four, like total detachment from yourself.

1207
01:01:18.679 --> 01:01:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Synthetic reality. What exactly the ending means is up for debate.

1208
01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:26.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sold that my interpretation was right. I'm not

1209
01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:29.199
<v Speaker 2>sure because I didn't even think about the boomer the

1210
01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:32.400
<v Speaker 2>age gap stuff. And it's not just the age guy,

1211
01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:35.679
<v Speaker 2>it's also class Like he's he's trying to because we

1212
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:38.079
<v Speaker 2>forgot about the billionaire's daughter. Like he's trying to step

1213
01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:41.559
<v Speaker 2>into the world of the billionaires. And he he has

1214
01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:45.719
<v Speaker 2>this date night with the billionaire daughter. They go swim pool,

1215
01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:48.800
<v Speaker 2>she's topless. He thinks he's going to get some and uh,

1216
01:01:48.800 --> 01:01:52.239
<v Speaker 2>sheet ends up getting shot. Right, So he's like realizing

1217
01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:54.679
<v Speaker 2>there's bigger players at work than him. You know, do

1218
01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:56.320
<v Speaker 2>I really want to be in that world? You know?

1219
01:01:56.440 --> 01:02:00.760
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I think the apartment it's kind of interesting, right,

1220
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:03.000
<v Speaker 3>So it's the building that you don't own, and him

1221
01:02:03.039 --> 01:02:05.960
<v Speaker 3>and this the old boomer hippie lady, they both live

1222
01:02:05.960 --> 01:02:09.079
<v Speaker 3>in it, but separately, and eventually through the process of

1223
01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:11.159
<v Speaker 3>the movie they come together and they basically are living

1224
01:02:11.159 --> 01:02:13.199
<v Speaker 3>in the same place. He can't afford rent, so he's

1225
01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:15.639
<v Speaker 3>over there in the boomer's place where she's got all

1226
01:02:15.639 --> 01:02:18.199
<v Speaker 3>these birds in cages. And so yeah, I mean, it's

1227
01:02:18.320 --> 01:02:21.079
<v Speaker 3>definitely social engineering, and there's a lot of themes in it.

1228
01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:23.159
<v Speaker 3>I feel like a lot of these directors sometimes they

1229
01:02:23.159 --> 01:02:26.559
<v Speaker 3>don't even understand why they put certain things in it, right,

1230
01:02:26.559 --> 01:02:29.159
<v Speaker 3>it's like, well that that feels mysterious.

1231
01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know if you saw Neon Demon. I

1232
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<v Speaker 2>felt that way about Neon Demon. It's talking a lot

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<v Speaker 2>about Hollywood being this machine that eats people up and

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<v Speaker 2>spit them out, and it's got witches in there and

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing rituals. And then you know that if you'd

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<v Speaker 2>spoiler alert, the chick the model gets killed at the

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<v Speaker 2>end and basically eating oh, and you're just like, what

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<v Speaker 2>what does this mean? Well, you know, it's all nihilistic

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<v Speaker 2>and they're laughing at the end, so it's kind of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all a big joke. And like you said, like

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<v Speaker 2>he's got all this stuff in there that's significant, but

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<v Speaker 2>what does he even know what it means? Know?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course video game culture was really big in this.

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01:03:04.119 --> 01:03:07.639
<v Speaker 3>You know, the food was all you know, uh, the

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01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:10.920
<v Speaker 3>imagery on the box of cereal. Yeah, right, like the

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01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:13.840
<v Speaker 3>foods they eat and stuff. It's just somebody shows up.

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01:03:14.039 --> 01:03:16.119
<v Speaker 3>His girlfriend shows up in the beginning, or not his girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 3>but some chick who's he you know, they they use

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01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:22.480
<v Speaker 3>each other to masturbate. She comes over and she brings

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01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:26.760
<v Speaker 3>sushi and then she's like all play smells and they

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01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:29.440
<v Speaker 3>eat sushi and then eats like saltine crackers, and then

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01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:33.320
<v Speaker 3>basically beer and cigarettes. For the rest of the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like they consume a cookie. Yeah, it's all John.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, and then a cookie that sends him on this

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01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:41.840
<v Speaker 3>psychedelic journey too, sugar cookie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, it's just kind of Alice in Wonderland too.

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01:03:44.239 --> 01:03:46.239
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even think that's Alice in Wonderland.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was.

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<v Speaker 3>That scene was very similar to Eyes Wide Shut too,

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<v Speaker 3>when he walks in and they use a similar camera

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01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:54.920
<v Speaker 3>angle walking behind him, just like Bill Hartford. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I enjoyed it. I thought it was pretty good. I think, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it was. It was kind of long. I

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01:03:59.880 --> 01:04:01.920
<v Speaker 3>was tired when I when I watched it, but then

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01:04:01.960 --> 01:04:04.360
<v Speaker 3>when I looked through it and scrolled through it later on,

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01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:06.239
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was you know, it was pretty well

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<v Speaker 3>put together, entertaining Andrew.

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<v Speaker 2>The most important takeaway was the pretty clear revelation that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the pop culture is manufactured.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the best scene. The best scene was the

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01:04:16.159 --> 01:04:18.920
<v Speaker 3>old man telling him, look, your whole reality is false.

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<v Speaker 3>And I wrote all these songs and none of these

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01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:22.960
<v Speaker 3>are real stars. I like that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, before we do Spring Rekers, I gotta take a

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<v Speaker 2>p break before.

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<v Speaker 3>It, man, I'll read some super chats here. Let's see here,

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01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:34.199
<v Speaker 3>all right, Nick Jones?

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01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:34.599
<v Speaker 2>What's up?

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Jones? That was at the very beginning of the stream,

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<v Speaker 3>He says, thanks both of you, hands down my two

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01:04:38.840 --> 01:04:42.639
<v Speaker 3>favorite channels on YouTube. Love the book, Jay, Thanks right on, Nick.

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01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:44.719
<v Speaker 3>Did you get the second book too? I haven't got

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01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Jay's second book yet. My brother, he's flying out here.

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01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:49.559
<v Speaker 3>I sent it to him. He's gonna bring it with him.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm looking forward to reading Jay's next book, second book,

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01:04:52.679 --> 01:04:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Esoteric Hollywood two. You know his website. Jay's website, by

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01:04:57.800 --> 01:05:01.400
<v Speaker 3>the way, one of one of my favorite sites, one

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01:05:01.400 --> 01:05:04.639
<v Speaker 3>of the very few sites that I actually pay for,

1290
01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:08.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, subscription to. He does lots of theology lectures

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01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:15.440
<v Speaker 3>and he's got such a wealth of of like just

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01:05:15.480 --> 01:05:19.480
<v Speaker 3>such a huge back catalog of essays on everything from

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01:05:20.119 --> 01:05:24.880
<v Speaker 3>historygio politics, theology. I think the theology section is a

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01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:27.480
<v Speaker 3>real gem of his website too. And of course you

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01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:30.079
<v Speaker 3>know esoteric analysis of films and whatnot. So check out

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01:05:30.079 --> 01:05:33.719
<v Speaker 3>his website, guys. In memory of John Mordaunt says, my

1297
01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:37.599
<v Speaker 3>boy has less SPD symptoms with real food. Thanks for

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01:05:37.639 --> 01:05:40.719
<v Speaker 3>all you do right on, Thanks a lot, you're a

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01:05:40.760 --> 01:05:43.960
<v Speaker 3>regular viewer, you're always jumping in here. Bob Monk, he

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01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:47.280
<v Speaker 3>sent some money, but he's not even asking anything right

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<v Speaker 3>on infinite micro second. I'll ask that question when Jay

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01:05:51.599 --> 01:05:55.000
<v Speaker 3>gets back. Thanks for the super chatman sending ten bucks.

1303
01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:57.920
<v Speaker 3>Door Man says, thanks for the stream, guys showing some love,

1304
01:05:58.079 --> 01:06:01.400
<v Speaker 3>eat meat and meg families and hashtag bald Man bad

1305
01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:04.599
<v Speaker 3>and hashtag beard Man bad. Well, thank you, my friend.

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01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:10.760
<v Speaker 3>I agree. Hashtag bald Man bad, hashtag beard Man bad.

1307
01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:17.880
<v Speaker 3>Now let's see here. Tyler Sudden says, two of my

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01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:21.000
<v Speaker 3>favorite YouTube personalities. Be sure to share with Jessica. I

1309
01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:23.599
<v Speaker 3>appreciate her answering my emails. I would like Jay to

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01:06:23.639 --> 01:06:27.599
<v Speaker 3>do more on his channel about the Jordan Peterson phenomenon.

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01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:31.679
<v Speaker 3>I'll let Jay know you said that when he gets back.

1312
01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:36.079
<v Speaker 3>And then Sergey Lux sends five bucks without any without

1313
01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:38.760
<v Speaker 3>saying anything. Thanks a lot, man, get this mosquito flying

1314
01:06:38.800 --> 01:06:43.360
<v Speaker 3>in my face? Las Vegas Carnivar, what's Alex Carnivore? Tyler

1315
01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:46.639
<v Speaker 3>Tumblebear metal slug seventeen bunch of people in the chat today.

1316
01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:50.039
<v Speaker 3>Let's see what's going on. I got a much smaller

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01:06:50.079 --> 01:06:52.639
<v Speaker 3>audience than usual. We're doing a fun little stream today,

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01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:56.800
<v Speaker 3>no clickmake titles. We're just doing some film analysis and

1319
01:06:56.880 --> 01:07:02.559
<v Speaker 3>having fun talking about some some funny millennial movies, some

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01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:05.719
<v Speaker 3>funny millennial movies. Mike's in the chat. What's up man.

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<v Speaker 2>Se? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Next, we're gonna talk about spring Breakers. Spring Breakers, which

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01:07:11.800 --> 01:07:14.920
<v Speaker 3>is actually a very It's like a horrific movie. Spring

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01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:20.880
<v Speaker 3>Breakers is a horror film. Also probably one of the

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01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:25.000
<v Speaker 3>more haunting films that I've seen over the last decade.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why, but for some reason, spring Breakers

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01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:31.880
<v Speaker 3>really like disturbed me watching this film. It was just

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01:07:32.239 --> 01:07:36.960
<v Speaker 3>there was something about it, something about the aesthetic of it,

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01:07:37.039 --> 01:07:39.480
<v Speaker 3>something about how this movie was made, how this film

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01:07:39.599 --> 01:07:45.719
<v Speaker 3>was made, that is just really haunting. And it is

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01:07:45.840 --> 01:07:53.000
<v Speaker 3>so it's so reflective of the millennials pop culture curated world.

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<v Speaker 3>Jay's back, what's up, Jay?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey?

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<v Speaker 3>We had one super chat from somebody asking is yoga

1335
01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:04.679
<v Speaker 3>acceptable an Orthodox Christianity? So is yoga cool with Eastern Orthodoxy?

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<v Speaker 3>What is his stance on yoga?

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<v Speaker 2>No, traditional yoga involves you know, Hindu practice in you know, Kundalini.

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<v Speaker 2>Opening of the Serpent Power Force in the spine. You know,

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01:08:21.239 --> 01:08:25.720
<v Speaker 2>Crowley was a big proponent of blending yoga with Western

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01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:33.720
<v Speaker 2>daunt So it's intentionally done to invoke deities, now, pilate, stretching,

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01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:39.520
<v Speaker 2>anything like that. Obviously, no, not that's fine, but yoga itself, No,

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01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:43.520
<v Speaker 2>it would not be compatible with Christianity.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's funny how popular yoga became. It It really

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01:08:46.039 --> 01:08:47.960
<v Speaker 3>got big in the US after the sixties when you

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01:08:47.960 --> 01:08:51.760
<v Speaker 3>had the huge Kraalley and push.

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01:08:50.079 --> 01:08:52.159
<v Speaker 2>And and the Beatles pushed it right U.

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01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:57.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so who brought who really popularized yoga in the West.

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<v Speaker 3>Was It almost seems like Crowley was the guy who

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01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:02.199
<v Speaker 3>really brought it out in the West.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you can make that case. I mean,

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01:09:05.199 --> 01:09:08.720
<v Speaker 2>the Chicago World Fare of Religions in the eighteen nineties

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01:09:08.800 --> 01:09:14.520
<v Speaker 2>featured this the first yogi trying to introduce the idea

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01:09:14.640 --> 01:09:16.399
<v Speaker 2>to the West. And what that was was kind of

1354
01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:21.399
<v Speaker 2>the pioneer ecumenical service. It was how do we get

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01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:24.039
<v Speaker 2>all the religions together in the West, And it was

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01:09:24.079 --> 01:09:25.920
<v Speaker 2>just a form of social engineering. It was being promoted

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<v Speaker 2>by the elites. After the eighteen nineties into the twentieth century,

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<v Speaker 2>you had a swami Vivica or a Sri I forget,

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01:09:35.199 --> 01:09:38.800
<v Speaker 2>I get all these I think it was vivid, yeah, Vivicananda.

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01:09:38.880 --> 01:09:42.760
<v Speaker 2>And then there's another guy who's they started also simultaneously

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01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:46.960
<v Speaker 2>pushing the New Thought movement and that turned into Positive thinking,

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01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:50.720
<v Speaker 2>and all those forces coalesced in the New Age movement

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01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:54.039
<v Speaker 2>with the Esslin Institute and all that, and so there's

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01:09:54.039 --> 01:09:56.479
<v Speaker 2>always been big money behind that that.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like actually moving your body, you know, stretching

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01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:04.560
<v Speaker 3>out your legs or you know, even it seems like

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01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:07.159
<v Speaker 3>that that maybe isn't so bad, but when you connect

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<v Speaker 3>it with all these other ideas and the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the the pronic breathing, breathe the prana into your body

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<v Speaker 3>and all this stuff, and it definitely gets pretty deep

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<v Speaker 3>into some Hindu stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're supposed to you're supposed to put your body

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<v Speaker 2>into It's kind of like the way Hindus do the

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01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:23.680
<v Speaker 2>ritual dancing. You're putting your body into the god forms.

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01:10:24.279 --> 01:10:26.920
<v Speaker 2>These are god forms that are intended to invoke the

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01:10:27.039 --> 01:10:30.479
<v Speaker 2>energy of that of that God. And so ultimately no,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be that would be demonic because the purpose

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01:10:32.720 --> 01:10:37.359
<v Speaker 2>of all the Eastern meditation, which is pretty ridiculous, is

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<v Speaker 2>to annihilate the ego to annihilate the self. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>God didn't create you as an individual person to annihilate

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01:10:44.720 --> 01:10:47.079
<v Speaker 2>the you. Right, You're not supposed to annihilate the you

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<v Speaker 2>and and dissolve into the oneness of all being in nirvana.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not why you were created. So ultimately, all the

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01:10:54.159 --> 01:10:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Far Eastern religions are Satanic at root. There you go.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a pretty in depth answer, are there Somebody said

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01:11:02.199 --> 01:11:04.520
<v Speaker 3>he wants to see more Jordan Peterson stuff on your

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01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:07.600
<v Speaker 3>YouTube channel. Tyler Saiden says Jay's got to do more

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01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:10.560
<v Speaker 3>on Jordan Peterson on his YouTube channel. I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>as far from what I've heard Jay talk about the

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01:11:13.079 --> 01:11:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Jordan Peterson phenomenon, he's kind of said what needed to

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01:11:16.840 --> 01:11:17.239
<v Speaker 3>be said.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many times do you have to critique,

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01:11:19.439 --> 01:11:24.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, all young and evolution and you know's there's

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01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:29.760
<v Speaker 2>not much there there. It's pretty pretty shallow, thin stuff

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01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:30.920
<v Speaker 2>coming out of Jordan Peterson.

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01:11:31.319 --> 01:11:33.000
<v Speaker 3>If you look at Jay's website when you have so

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01:11:33.119 --> 01:11:38.560
<v Speaker 3>much stuff on critiquing classical liberalism, critiquing you know, the

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01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:41.960
<v Speaker 3>liberal imperium. So yeah, maybe if you guys sign up

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<v Speaker 3>for his members section, which is really cheap, is it

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<v Speaker 3>sixty bucks for the year.

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01:11:46.199 --> 01:11:49.039
<v Speaker 2>Still it is five a month if you want to

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01:11:49.079 --> 01:11:53.600
<v Speaker 2>do it monthly and growing archive, but there's about three

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01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:57.119
<v Speaker 2>years worth of backed up archive material back there. Lectures

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01:11:57.119 --> 01:12:01.039
<v Speaker 2>on Plato, lectures on Tragi and Hope, globalless books, all

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01:12:01.079 --> 01:12:01.800
<v Speaker 2>kinds of stuff there.

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01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:03.520
<v Speaker 3>What would you say it would be like a good

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<v Speaker 3>avenue of research, even going through your website for some

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01:12:06.239 --> 01:12:08.600
<v Speaker 3>people who are interested in deeper stuff. What kind of

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<v Speaker 3>keywords would they be looking at and what type of

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<v Speaker 3>you know, what aspects of philosophy and history would they

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01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:16.920
<v Speaker 3>want to look at if they want to see what

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<v Speaker 3>your views or expand on, you know, maybe the critique

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01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:22.239
<v Speaker 3>that you've put out there on Jordan Peterson's philosophy and

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<v Speaker 3>his ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>But particularly on Jordan Peterson. I would say the thirty

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<v Speaker 2>forty minute video that I did, that's a critique of him.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a two parter that's had about twenty five thousand views.

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<v Speaker 2>That's probably the best one. Which is funny because when

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<v Speaker 2>I did that video, the likes to dislikes were about equal.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, I don't know, two hundred likes two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dislikes, And in the last year since I did

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<v Speaker 2>that video. A lot of my critiques have been vindicated.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people have abandoned the Peterson colt. They've

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01:12:53.319 --> 01:12:56.600
<v Speaker 2>realized that, you know, he started cucking pretty hard. He

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01:12:56.680 --> 01:13:00.720
<v Speaker 2>came out against men, you know, came out against individualism.

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<v Speaker 2>He's supposed to be this great individualist and saying all

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<v Speaker 2>these really contradictory things, and so people started, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, realizing that he's not all he was cracked

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<v Speaker 2>up to be. Oh, it turns out he's invited to

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<v Speaker 2>the Trilateral Commission, he's speaking there. You know, he's obviously

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<v Speaker 2>an establishment creation. Box Day did a whole bunch of

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01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:20.920
<v Speaker 2>critiques of him. So now the likes to dislike ratio

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<v Speaker 2>is like seven hundred to one hundred and fifty. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's evened out, I would say, public opinion. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's there's still a lot annoying.

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01:13:28.760 --> 01:13:30.520
<v Speaker 3>You were one of the first people who actually critiqued

1437
01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:33.520
<v Speaker 3>Peterson's philosophy, right, I mean everybody was so enamored.

1438
01:13:33.720 --> 01:13:36.479
<v Speaker 2>Everybody so mad. Yeah, I had a critique, and then

1439
01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:39.119
<v Speaker 2>right around the same time, box to Day started critiquing him,

1440
01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:43.560
<v Speaker 2>and then I think Owen Benjamin critiqued him after that.

1441
01:13:43.800 --> 01:13:47.359
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, he's gotten more and more critiques. But but

1442
01:13:48.039 --> 01:13:49.960
<v Speaker 2>so I would say that video and then Tim Kelly

1443
01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:53.640
<v Speaker 2>and I have done two talks where I critique the

1444
01:13:54.359 --> 01:13:59.239
<v Speaker 2>Petersonian worldview, and he's come up in other shows too.

1445
01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:00.840
<v Speaker 2>I can't I'm off the top of my head.

1446
01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:04.680
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, yeah, said, he seems like a guy who's

1447
01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:06.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, he's like a he's a boomer, he's an academic.

1448
01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:10.079
<v Speaker 3>It's it's probably very hard in that situation to see

1449
01:14:10.119 --> 01:14:12.640
<v Speaker 3>outside of that box at all to ever critique the

1450
01:14:12.720 --> 01:14:16.119
<v Speaker 3>roots of classical liberalism or Darwinism marks they're not Mars,

1451
01:14:16.199 --> 01:14:19.239
<v Speaker 3>but uh uh Young.

1452
01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Carl Young's gnocissism. Yeah, I mean Jordan Peters is essentially

1453
01:14:22.800 --> 01:14:28.840
<v Speaker 2>just a modern day gnostic, modern day originist, modern day

1454
01:14:29.159 --> 01:14:31.720
<v Speaker 2>catch all. It's like a it's like a cross between

1455
01:14:31.720 --> 01:14:35.039
<v Speaker 2>Tony Robbins and and you know, I mean box Day

1456
01:14:35.039 --> 01:14:38.520
<v Speaker 2>had a good point about his uh rules for for life,

1457
01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:41.680
<v Speaker 2>the Jordan Pearson Rules for Life, and they're all about

1458
01:14:41.760 --> 01:14:45.439
<v Speaker 2>you getting ahead, don't worry about associating with people that

1459
01:14:45.479 --> 01:14:50.520
<v Speaker 2>don't advance your personal you know, uh name brand, and

1460
01:14:50.560 --> 01:14:52.960
<v Speaker 2>it's it's just just marketing bullshit.

1461
01:14:53.079 --> 01:14:55.800
<v Speaker 3>Really, Yeah, Tyler Sudden says, I'm going to send a

1462
01:14:55.880 --> 01:14:58.319
<v Speaker 3>local Serbian Orthodox church to get a feel for it.

1463
01:14:58.600 --> 01:15:01.520
<v Speaker 3>That's awesome, man. Good, So you're you're lucky and you're

1464
01:15:01.560 --> 01:15:04.479
<v Speaker 3>blessed because I've got a sixteen hour drive and it's

1465
01:15:04.520 --> 01:15:06.720
<v Speaker 3>not even an Orthodox church. It's just like a small

1466
01:15:08.359 --> 01:15:12.319
<v Speaker 3>Orthodox congregation that they don't even have a church building.

1467
01:15:12.520 --> 01:15:14.000
<v Speaker 2>We're a sixteen hour drive from you.

1468
01:15:14.119 --> 01:15:16.560
<v Speaker 3>Sixteen hour drive. Yeah, but I'm gonna I'll get up

1469
01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:19.600
<v Speaker 3>there soon. It's still worth it to me. But wow, yeah,

1470
01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:22.479
<v Speaker 3>it's it's uh, we're in Catholic land down here.

1471
01:15:22.520 --> 01:15:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Man.

1472
01:15:23.039 --> 01:15:25.800
<v Speaker 3>Now we got the Pope. We got the Pope talking

1473
01:15:25.800 --> 01:15:28.039
<v Speaker 3>about got to get ridiations and.

1474
01:15:28.359 --> 01:15:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Get read of your borders, have globalism. It's so great.

1475
01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:33.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh man, Yeah, we're kind of we're kind of you know,

1476
01:15:33.640 --> 01:15:35.479
<v Speaker 3>you think when you're we thought we were when we

1477
01:15:35.520 --> 01:15:37.479
<v Speaker 3>came down to Latin America that we maybe get a

1478
01:15:37.479 --> 01:15:41.319
<v Speaker 3>couple of generations until it all came full flood. But

1479
01:15:41.439 --> 01:15:44.319
<v Speaker 3>then the cell phones came and the smartphone came out.

1480
01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:46.199
<v Speaker 2>Cell phones change everything. Yeah.

1481
01:15:46.039 --> 01:15:49.239
<v Speaker 3>Now yeah they started. Now they're trying to bring abortion

1482
01:15:49.359 --> 01:15:50.079
<v Speaker 3>in the Ecuador.

1483
01:15:50.960 --> 01:15:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

1484
01:15:51.319 --> 01:15:53.520
<v Speaker 3>Really yeah, Well it's you know, slowly, they have to

1485
01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:54.880
<v Speaker 3>bring it in slowly, so it's.

1486
01:15:54.760 --> 01:15:56.920
<v Speaker 6>Like, oh, well, what if a lady gets raped, you

1487
01:15:56.960 --> 01:15:57.920
<v Speaker 6>got to get the abortions.

1488
01:15:58.319 --> 01:16:02.239
<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's good. But yeah, they the Ecuadorians are still

1489
01:16:02.319 --> 01:16:04.560
<v Speaker 3>very much against it. But hey, you know, I mean

1490
01:16:04.560 --> 01:16:05.359
<v Speaker 3>it's they're trying.

1491
01:16:05.359 --> 01:16:07.239
<v Speaker 2>They're going to do social engineering to try to you.

1492
01:16:07.239 --> 01:16:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Know, yeah, ten years probably match change opinion.

1493
01:16:09.960 --> 01:16:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Within ten years.

1494
01:16:10.960 --> 01:16:13.399
<v Speaker 3>Abortion will be the right of passage for all women

1495
01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:16.439
<v Speaker 3>in ten years. And it's sad. I hope not, you know,

1496
01:16:16.520 --> 01:16:19.520
<v Speaker 3>God forbid, I hope not. And uh, you know, maybe

1497
01:16:19.560 --> 01:16:22.800
<v Speaker 3>maybe a lot of these people end up leaving the

1498
01:16:22.840 --> 01:16:27.199
<v Speaker 3>Catholic Church with the current pope. I you know, I mean,

1499
01:16:27.239 --> 01:16:28.760
<v Speaker 3>I got no problem with Catholics. I live in a

1500
01:16:28.760 --> 01:16:32.119
<v Speaker 3>Catholic country. A lot of good things about what Catholicism

1501
01:16:32.159 --> 01:16:36.159
<v Speaker 3>has done to maintain family unit, to keep some forms

1502
01:16:36.159 --> 01:16:40.199
<v Speaker 3>of degeneracy out of Latin America. But you know, I mean,

1503
01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:43.840
<v Speaker 3>with what this pope is saying, it's getting pretty alarming.

1504
01:16:45.159 --> 01:16:47.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is sad. I mean, I think he's going

1505
01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:49.520
<v Speaker 2>to be, you know, it's going to be more and

1506
01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:54.439
<v Speaker 2>more evident that he's a definitely a tool of the globalists,

1507
01:16:54.479 --> 01:16:58.000
<v Speaker 2>and Roman Catholic Church has unfortunately been on that track,

1508
01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:00.920
<v Speaker 2>that path or you know, many many decades at least

1509
01:17:00.920 --> 01:17:02.880
<v Speaker 2>sin Vatican too, and for that as well.

1510
01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, well even yeah, when you look back further,

1511
01:17:06.680 --> 01:17:08.279
<v Speaker 3>it seems there were a lot of things that were

1512
01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:11.199
<v Speaker 3>just not quite right. Well, the whole pope Ism things

1513
01:17:11.760 --> 01:17:14.960
<v Speaker 3>always been weird. But anyways, that's uh, that's cool.

1514
01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:17.119
<v Speaker 6>Let's let's uh, we got through all the super chats.

1515
01:17:17.159 --> 01:17:19.600
<v Speaker 3>There a few other interesting questions, but it's kind of

1516
01:17:19.600 --> 01:17:23.119
<v Speaker 3>off topic. So got a lively chat today, got no

1517
01:17:23.199 --> 01:17:27.079
<v Speaker 3>trolls today too. I got a band list. I've got

1518
01:17:27.119 --> 01:17:28.840
<v Speaker 3>a miles long bad list on this.

1519
01:17:28.880 --> 01:17:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Channe Yeah, me too. I have no patience for any

1520
01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:33.520
<v Speaker 2>of that stuff.

1521
01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:35.840
<v Speaker 3>It's like, look, you're gonna derail the chat and turn

1522
01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:38.239
<v Speaker 3>it into something like it gets so annoying you cut,

1523
01:17:38.279 --> 01:17:40.840
<v Speaker 3>you pop into the chat and suddenly everybody's talking about

1524
01:17:40.840 --> 01:17:42.640
<v Speaker 3>flat Earth. You're like, dude, I have no problem with

1525
01:17:42.680 --> 01:17:45.800
<v Speaker 3>you people believing in flat earth. It's all good question everything,

1526
01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:48.159
<v Speaker 3>but please don't come and debate it in my chat.

1527
01:17:48.199 --> 01:17:50.720
<v Speaker 3>We're talking about nothing to do with it.

1528
01:17:50.800 --> 01:17:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, about something totally different.

1529
01:17:52.079 --> 01:17:54.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we got a good chat going on now,

1530
01:17:54.800 --> 01:17:58.640
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, what do you think about spring Breakers? Harmony career?

1531
01:17:58.800 --> 01:18:00.680
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't what I expected. You know. I remember when

1532
01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:03.680
<v Speaker 2>the movie came out, and I wasn't intentionally avoiding it.

1533
01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:05.800
<v Speaker 2>I just happened to miss it at the time. I've

1534
01:18:05.800 --> 01:18:09.439
<v Speaker 2>seen other Harmony Kren films, you know. I remember when

1535
01:18:09.479 --> 01:18:11.640
<v Speaker 2>I was in high school. I think my senior year

1536
01:18:11.960 --> 01:18:15.359
<v Speaker 2>is when Kids came out. Kids had a pretty big impact,

1537
01:18:15.399 --> 01:18:17.960
<v Speaker 2>and it was controversial at the time because it was

1538
01:18:18.039 --> 01:18:20.479
<v Speaker 2>a Disney film people. I think it was Merri Max

1539
01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:24.159
<v Speaker 2>maybe or one of the Disney subsidiaries did Kids, and

1540
01:18:24.359 --> 01:18:27.399
<v Speaker 2>it was, you know, pretty brutal. And you know, it's

1541
01:18:27.399 --> 01:18:31.319
<v Speaker 2>about AIDS, try to transmitting AIDS amongst my generation gen

1542
01:18:31.600 --> 01:18:36.079
<v Speaker 2>X and you know, nihilistic partying gen xers back then.

1543
01:18:36.439 --> 01:18:39.479
<v Speaker 2>Spring Breakers is his treatment of millennials, right, So again

1544
01:18:39.520 --> 01:18:44.159
<v Speaker 2>we have this theme of the mindless millennials, totally hedonistic,

1545
01:18:44.199 --> 01:18:49.399
<v Speaker 2>totally wild, savage and the thoughts. I mean, this is

1546
01:18:49.439 --> 01:18:56.479
<v Speaker 2>about heartless millennial thoughts. Yeah, and I liked your point

1547
01:18:56.479 --> 01:18:58.239
<v Speaker 2>that it's a horror movie. You know, I didn't think that.

1548
01:18:58.359 --> 01:19:01.680
<v Speaker 2>I thought this was a goofy sound, tire, silly thing

1549
01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:04.600
<v Speaker 2>from the trailer. Now, when when I started watching, I

1550
01:19:04.640 --> 01:19:07.680
<v Speaker 2>was like, this is a gangster movie and then I

1551
01:19:07.760 --> 01:19:10.039
<v Speaker 2>realized it's more of like a horror movie.

1552
01:19:10.159 --> 01:19:12.840
<v Speaker 3>It's really horrific, right, and and you know, even when

1553
01:19:12.840 --> 01:19:15.119
<v Speaker 3>it starts out, So it starts out the first scene,

1554
01:19:15.319 --> 01:19:18.000
<v Speaker 3>first of all, it starts out with just saying spring Breakers.

1555
01:19:18.079 --> 01:19:23.520
<v Speaker 3>It's got these glittery like you know, really pretty pink

1556
01:19:23.600 --> 01:19:28.880
<v Speaker 3>and blue, and the colors so neon and pastel, and

1557
01:19:28.960 --> 01:19:32.800
<v Speaker 3>it starts out with just kids dancing and like an

1558
01:19:32.920 --> 01:19:35.359
<v Speaker 3>MTV style it is.

1559
01:19:35.520 --> 01:19:39.439
<v Speaker 2>It's very nine late nineties, mid two thousand, early two

1560
01:19:39.479 --> 01:19:42.279
<v Speaker 2>thousands MTV when they would broadcast spring Break exactly.

1561
01:19:42.439 --> 01:19:45.760
<v Speaker 3>Yep, yep. So they start the kids are dancing around.

1562
01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:49.479
<v Speaker 3>Let's see, I've got I've got some screenshots pulled up here.

1563
01:19:50.479 --> 01:19:53.319
<v Speaker 3>There's beer bongs and they're pouring beer all over each other,

1564
01:19:53.439 --> 01:19:55.920
<v Speaker 3>and it's just really it's really gross, like it's very

1565
01:19:55.960 --> 01:20:00.000
<v Speaker 3>off putting, it's very disgusting. It's kind of sad to watch.

1566
01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:08.319
<v Speaker 3>And it's got this like scrill X song, like dude,

1567
01:20:08.960 --> 01:20:13.560
<v Speaker 3>this industrial sounding music, and then it shows the first

1568
01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:18.359
<v Speaker 3>shot of somebody actually consuming. It's just they're they're drinking beer,

1569
01:20:18.399 --> 01:20:20.279
<v Speaker 3>they're pouring beer all over each other.

1570
01:20:21.199 --> 01:20:23.560
<v Speaker 2>It's just debauchery. Yeah, it's like total debauchery.

1571
01:20:23.680 --> 01:20:26.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's really gross. So then and then there's

1572
01:20:26.199 --> 01:20:27.960
<v Speaker 3>this chick and she's sucking on a red, white and

1573
01:20:27.960 --> 01:20:33.239
<v Speaker 3>blue popsicle, right like that's the American the colors of

1574
01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:38.199
<v Speaker 3>the American flag, and it's sucking. That's what they are.

1575
01:20:38.399 --> 01:20:40.520
<v Speaker 3>So that food, that thing shows up like three times

1576
01:20:40.560 --> 01:20:43.359
<v Speaker 3>in the movie, or at least two times, one of

1577
01:20:43.359 --> 01:20:46.079
<v Speaker 3>the few foods they eat in the movie. And they're pouring.

1578
01:20:46.359 --> 01:20:50.359
<v Speaker 3>The guys are like standing around fake pissing beer into

1579
01:20:50.520 --> 01:20:53.079
<v Speaker 3>girl's mouths. So there's been a line of women or

1580
01:20:53.199 --> 01:20:56.079
<v Speaker 3>young girls and they're naked, topless and they're going like this,

1581
01:20:56.680 --> 01:20:58.840
<v Speaker 3>and the dudes are acting like they're peeing the beer

1582
01:20:58.880 --> 01:21:01.680
<v Speaker 3>into their mouth. So it's just this really gross representation

1583
01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:05.640
<v Speaker 3>of you know, bodily fluids and just consuming poisons and

1584
01:21:06.279 --> 01:21:10.119
<v Speaker 3>really destructive behavior and hyper sexualized behavior. And then it

1585
01:21:10.199 --> 01:21:13.840
<v Speaker 3>cuts and it's got this the audio in the background

1586
01:21:14.199 --> 01:21:17.319
<v Speaker 3>or the it's got this dialogue from like a preacher

1587
01:21:17.880 --> 01:21:18.279
<v Speaker 3>right this.

1588
01:21:19.039 --> 01:21:23.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this this idiot boomer evangelical preacher wearing ed Hardy gear.

1589
01:21:23.479 --> 01:21:25.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, he's got like ed Hardy and like an

1590
01:21:25.319 --> 01:21:29.560
<v Speaker 3>affliction T shirt, you know, tattoos and chains and stuff

1591
01:21:29.560 --> 01:21:32.079
<v Speaker 3>and he's he says, we're gonna talk about temptation.

1592
01:21:33.039 --> 01:21:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Uh, we're gonna talk about temptation.

1593
01:21:34.960 --> 01:21:37.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're gonna talk about Satan. And right when he

1594
01:21:37.039 --> 01:21:38.960
<v Speaker 3>says we're gonna talk about Satan, it cuts to this

1595
01:21:39.039 --> 01:21:42.239
<v Speaker 3>girl smoking a bong and it's you know, there's red

1596
01:21:43.039 --> 01:21:51.079
<v Speaker 3>lit dorm room, totally weird uh set up, and yeah, yeah,

1597
01:21:51.119 --> 01:21:55.680
<v Speaker 3>everybody's high. Everybody they're watching, Uh, they're watching Are they're

1598
01:21:55.680 --> 01:21:58.079
<v Speaker 3>watching the Bronies? Is it like a Bernie's reference? They're

1599
01:21:58.079 --> 01:21:59.039
<v Speaker 3>watching My Little Pony?

1600
01:22:00.560 --> 01:22:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're watching My Little Pony exactly.

1601
01:22:03.159 --> 01:22:06.279
<v Speaker 3>And then the girl that shows, Vanessa Hudgens, is like

1602
01:22:06.319 --> 01:22:08.319
<v Speaker 3>a do you know about her? Is she a Disney chick?

1603
01:22:08.920 --> 01:22:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, she's a Disney chick. Selena Gomez I think was

1604
01:22:11.800 --> 01:22:14.479
<v Speaker 2>Disney chick too. And the reason that's relevance because, like

1605
01:22:14.520 --> 01:22:20.840
<v Speaker 2>I said, kids Harmony Crinn that that was a Disney movie. Yeah,

1606
01:22:21.079 --> 01:22:23.399
<v Speaker 2>so it's almost like Disney is telling us, did you

1607
01:22:23.399 --> 01:22:26.039
<v Speaker 2>ever see that weird movie Escape from tomorrow Land?

1608
01:22:26.560 --> 01:22:29.000
<v Speaker 3>No? Is that a Disney movie? An actual Disney movie?

1609
01:22:29.199 --> 01:22:34.359
<v Speaker 2>Well no, but it's hard to see how it couldn't be,

1610
01:22:34.359 --> 01:22:38.199
<v Speaker 2>because supposedly they snuck into Disneyland to film an entire movie.

1611
01:22:38.880 --> 01:22:43.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, I don't buy that. So, but Escape from

1612
01:22:43.079 --> 01:22:47.079
<v Speaker 2>tomorrow Land is about basically the dark side of Disney.

1613
01:22:47.079 --> 01:22:49.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it deserves its own whole video because it's

1614
01:22:49.279 --> 01:22:52.239
<v Speaker 2>pretty deep. But it's kind of the same thing with

1615
01:22:52.359 --> 01:22:54.720
<v Speaker 2>Harmony Krin in the sense that I mean, I don't

1616
01:22:54.720 --> 01:22:57.960
<v Speaker 2>think he works for Disney, but I'm saying, you've got

1617
01:22:57.960 --> 01:23:03.920
<v Speaker 2>these two Disney princesses here, right, who are essentially portraying

1618
01:23:03.960 --> 01:23:08.199
<v Speaker 2>that Madonna horror complex. And even the Selena Gomez character,

1619
01:23:08.239 --> 01:23:11.680
<v Speaker 2>who's this this naive, sort of simple evangelical check who

1620
01:23:12.159 --> 01:23:15.079
<v Speaker 2>is tempted to go down with these hose from her

1621
01:23:15.119 --> 01:23:17.960
<v Speaker 2>small town to spring Break, like spring Break is supposed

1622
01:23:17.960 --> 01:23:21.039
<v Speaker 2>to be, you know, this immortality state, this etern It's

1623
01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:22.720
<v Speaker 2>almost like they treat it like Heaven, like it's gonna

1624
01:23:22.720 --> 01:23:24.439
<v Speaker 2>we went it's a she mean great.

1625
01:23:24.279 --> 01:23:27.399
<v Speaker 3>For ab exactly exactly that we were just going to

1626
01:23:27.399 --> 01:23:29.159
<v Speaker 3>get out of our right reality. We got to get

1627
01:23:29.159 --> 01:23:31.279
<v Speaker 3>out of this place. We've got the same thing happening

1628
01:23:31.279 --> 01:23:33.520
<v Speaker 3>every day. We hate it here. It's so boring. We

1629
01:23:33.640 --> 01:23:35.520
<v Speaker 3>got to go to spring Break, but we have no money,

1630
01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:39.039
<v Speaker 3>and that's their issue. These little girls they have no money.

1631
01:23:39.039 --> 01:23:40.920
<v Speaker 3>And then one of them is Selena Gomez who was

1632
01:23:41.239 --> 01:23:44.680
<v Speaker 3>that was Justin Bieber's girlfriend for a while. Yeah, so

1633
01:23:44.680 --> 01:23:49.039
<v Speaker 3>she's like this huge pop culture figure and it shows

1634
01:23:49.079 --> 01:23:51.319
<v Speaker 3>her and she's like in this kind of weird evangelical

1635
01:23:51.399 --> 01:23:54.800
<v Speaker 3>church situation and everybody looks really empty there. You know,

1636
01:23:54.800 --> 01:23:56.680
<v Speaker 3>she doesn't. She doesn't seem very happy.

1637
01:23:56.960 --> 01:23:59.319
<v Speaker 2>And the childishness they have them all singing like the

1638
01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:01.640
<v Speaker 2>clapper hands, you know, Jesus.

1639
01:24:01.279 --> 01:24:05.600
<v Speaker 3>Loves Yeah, it's very yeah, and it's it's funny because

1640
01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:08.319
<v Speaker 3>that contrasts with it's kind of the same thing that

1641
01:24:08.359 --> 01:24:11.399
<v Speaker 3>they're doing there as the girls are doing at spring Break, right,

1642
01:24:11.479 --> 01:24:16.920
<v Speaker 3>hyping themselves up emotionally and you know, singing, singing empty,

1643
01:24:17.399 --> 01:24:19.880
<v Speaker 3>empty songs with that they don't really feel to have

1644
01:24:19.960 --> 01:24:20.840
<v Speaker 3>any meaning.

1645
01:24:22.239 --> 01:24:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. Yeah, And the irony of that was I'm sitting

1646
01:24:26.640 --> 01:24:31.079
<v Speaker 2>here thinking, there's no way that the the cheeseball indoctrination

1647
01:24:31.359 --> 01:24:35.640
<v Speaker 2>of charismatic evangelicalism that she's involved in is gonna because

1648
01:24:35.640 --> 01:24:38.840
<v Speaker 2>it is not going to be enough to hold her

1649
01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:42.439
<v Speaker 2>back from the degeneracy when she gives into the plot. Right,

1650
01:24:42.479 --> 01:24:44.960
<v Speaker 2>so her her Hoe friends are like, let's do it.

1651
01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:47.479
<v Speaker 2>You gotta be hard. You gotta be hard. So you

1652
01:24:47.560 --> 01:24:51.000
<v Speaker 2>have these you know, seventeen eighteen year old white girls who.

1653
01:24:51.119 --> 01:24:53.000
<v Speaker 3>I guess they should be eighteen because they're the first

1654
01:24:53.079 --> 01:24:53.680
<v Speaker 3>year of college.

1655
01:24:54.079 --> 01:24:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay eighteen, So they've been completely downloaded with the idea

1656
01:24:57.359 --> 01:25:00.520
<v Speaker 2>of like hardcore you know, rap that they're and they're

1657
01:25:00.520 --> 01:25:02.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna they gotta show how hard they are. And they

1658
01:25:02.600 --> 01:25:05.800
<v Speaker 2>come up with this plot to rob like a little diner,

1659
01:25:05.960 --> 01:25:08.760
<v Speaker 2>which I don't know how they I can't imagine some

1660
01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:12.000
<v Speaker 2>little diner in a small town having enough money to

1661
01:25:12.319 --> 01:25:13.000
<v Speaker 2>fund like this.

1662
01:25:13.800 --> 01:25:15.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, how much would they really need? Right they're

1663
01:25:15.560 --> 01:25:16.560
<v Speaker 3>trying to get on a bus.

1664
01:25:17.039 --> 01:25:17.279
<v Speaker 2>Go.

1665
01:25:17.880 --> 01:25:19.399
<v Speaker 3>All they need to do is get on the bus, go,

1666
01:25:19.479 --> 01:25:21.880
<v Speaker 3>get some cheap hotel room on the beach in Florida,

1667
01:25:22.279 --> 01:25:23.840
<v Speaker 3>and buy some booze for a few days. But I

1668
01:25:23.840 --> 01:25:25.960
<v Speaker 3>guess since they're girls, they don't have to buy booths

1669
01:25:26.079 --> 01:25:29.720
<v Speaker 3>like everyone will just shower them with drugs and true alcohol.

1670
01:25:29.840 --> 01:25:31.239
<v Speaker 3>That's a point, So maybe they don't either that.

1671
01:25:31.560 --> 01:25:34.800
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't tell whether it was Daytona or or.

1672
01:25:34.359 --> 01:25:40.640
<v Speaker 3>Saint Pete's Okay, Saint Petersburg, Florida. I thought that was

1673
01:25:40.800 --> 01:25:43.239
<v Speaker 3>the intro to the film was actually really interesting because

1674
01:25:43.640 --> 01:25:47.479
<v Speaker 3>the way it juxtaposes the the partying and then goes

1675
01:25:47.520 --> 01:25:52.079
<v Speaker 3>straight to the evangelical, like you know, children's group. They've

1676
01:25:52.079 --> 01:25:53.720
<v Speaker 3>got the Bibles in front of them, but they're not

1677
01:25:53.760 --> 01:25:56.920
<v Speaker 3>reading from it. They're just singing empty songs and stuff

1678
01:25:56.960 --> 01:25:58.399
<v Speaker 3>like that. And then it shows the girls in their

1679
01:25:58.479 --> 01:26:02.279
<v Speaker 3>class and they're while learning about like the reconstruction period

1680
01:26:02.399 --> 01:26:04.920
<v Speaker 3>during the Civil War and the lecture. Right, they're drawing

1681
01:26:04.920 --> 01:26:08.720
<v Speaker 3>pictures of Dix and showing and and pretending to lick

1682
01:26:08.760 --> 01:26:12.199
<v Speaker 3>them and saying I want penis. So I got a

1683
01:26:12.239 --> 01:26:14.720
<v Speaker 3>screenshot pulled up right there where she says she got

1684
01:26:14.720 --> 01:26:16.399
<v Speaker 3>a heart and says I love penis on it.

1685
01:26:16.640 --> 01:26:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they're miserable in their small town hypersexually. You

1686
01:26:21.039 --> 01:26:23.880
<v Speaker 2>gotta be hard, don't be scared of nothing. Let's let's

1687
01:26:23.960 --> 01:26:27.000
<v Speaker 2>rob this mom and pop diner.

1688
01:26:27.279 --> 01:26:30.119
<v Speaker 3>Would you notice the party. There's some really shocking imagery

1689
01:26:30.119 --> 01:26:31.920
<v Speaker 3>in the party they went to. Right, so it shows

1690
01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:35.680
<v Speaker 3>this this uh, this kind of college party, and the

1691
01:26:35.680 --> 01:26:38.079
<v Speaker 3>first shots that shows of it are all them sitting

1692
01:26:38.119 --> 01:26:41.399
<v Speaker 3>around a bonfire. Right, so it shows it shows Vanessa

1693
01:26:41.479 --> 01:26:44.439
<v Speaker 3>Hudgens smoking a bong load after they say we're gonna

1694
01:26:44.439 --> 01:26:46.319
<v Speaker 3>talk about Satan, and then it switches to her and

1695
01:26:46.359 --> 01:26:48.479
<v Speaker 3>she lights up the thing, and so there's the fire

1696
01:26:48.479 --> 01:26:50.560
<v Speaker 3>and that she breathes in the weed smoke. There's a

1697
01:26:50.600 --> 01:26:53.720
<v Speaker 3>lot of references to breath, right, like breathing in, and

1698
01:26:53.720 --> 01:26:55.520
<v Speaker 3>they breathe on each other a lot in the film,

1699
01:26:55.800 --> 01:26:59.359
<v Speaker 3>like they blow smoke in each other's mouth. There's quite

1700
01:26:59.359 --> 01:27:02.600
<v Speaker 3>a few scenes with just referencing like inhaling, you know,

1701
01:27:02.640 --> 01:27:07.600
<v Speaker 3>which would probably be referencing spiritual God breathe the spirit

1702
01:27:07.640 --> 01:27:08.560
<v Speaker 3>of life in the ass right.

1703
01:27:09.640 --> 01:27:11.600
<v Speaker 2>So it's like this, I didn't even notice that because

1704
01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I've only seen it once, so my first time through,

1705
01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:16.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm just looking at, you know, like the basic level

1706
01:27:16.359 --> 01:27:19.600
<v Speaker 2>of the plot line. So a lot of the symbolism

1707
01:27:19.600 --> 01:27:21.399
<v Speaker 2>I missed because the way I do movies is i'll

1708
01:27:21.439 --> 01:27:23.840
<v Speaker 2>watch them. If it's a good one that I feel

1709
01:27:23.880 --> 01:27:25.319
<v Speaker 2>like has a lot of a depths to it, I'm

1710
01:27:25.319 --> 01:27:27.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna watch it two or three times and you'll notice,

1711
01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:29.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, you pick up stuff the more. In some

1712
01:27:29.640 --> 01:27:31.479
<v Speaker 2>some movies you can watch five times and you still

1713
01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:34.399
<v Speaker 2>haven't even picked up everything. But but yeah, so that

1714
01:27:34.479 --> 01:27:38.239
<v Speaker 2>was a good point. I didn't even notice the breathing stuff.

1715
01:27:38.560 --> 01:27:41.399
<v Speaker 3>There's quite a few references that. Then they show they're

1716
01:27:41.399 --> 01:27:43.760
<v Speaker 3>at a party. They're at this college party, and it's

1717
01:27:43.840 --> 01:27:46.079
<v Speaker 3>just it definitely reminds me a lot of the parties

1718
01:27:46.119 --> 01:27:49.399
<v Speaker 3>I saw when I was in college. So they're pouring

1719
01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:53.399
<v Speaker 3>beer bongs down baby doll. They have the setup where

1720
01:27:53.439 --> 01:27:55.720
<v Speaker 3>they have a baby doll and the beer bong goes

1721
01:27:55.760 --> 01:27:58.199
<v Speaker 3>through the baby's mouth and out of it's whereas genitals

1722
01:27:58.239 --> 01:28:01.079
<v Speaker 3>would be. And the college kids are doing beer bongs

1723
01:28:01.119 --> 01:28:04.520
<v Speaker 3>through this baby doll. So it's just it's referencing, right,

1724
01:28:04.720 --> 01:28:08.119
<v Speaker 3>child abuse, uh force poisoning children.

1725
01:28:08.880 --> 01:28:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, one of the one of the lines that

1726
01:28:12.239 --> 01:28:16.760
<v Speaker 2>one of the thoughts I think was Vanessa Hudgens. She says, quote,

1727
01:28:16.800 --> 01:28:19.119
<v Speaker 2>she's like, we gotta do this. Don't be scared enough

1728
01:28:19.199 --> 01:28:21.399
<v Speaker 2>and act like you're in a movie. Act like you're

1729
01:28:21.439 --> 01:28:22.319
<v Speaker 2>in a video game.

1730
01:28:22.359 --> 01:28:23.880
<v Speaker 3>You've gotta be hard exactly.

1731
01:28:24.079 --> 01:28:27.960
<v Speaker 2>So her whole worldview is programmed by video games, rap music,

1732
01:28:28.520 --> 01:28:29.079
<v Speaker 2>and movies.

1733
01:28:29.760 --> 01:28:31.439
<v Speaker 3>There's even you know, there's even a shot I've got

1734
01:28:31.439 --> 01:28:33.239
<v Speaker 3>to pulled up right now of a guy smoking weed

1735
01:28:33.319 --> 01:28:36.159
<v Speaker 3>through a baby doll. So he's the the bowl of

1736
01:28:36.199 --> 01:28:38.239
<v Speaker 3>weed is in its mouth and then he's sucking it

1737
01:28:38.279 --> 01:28:40.640
<v Speaker 3>through where it's like, you know, where it's general. It's

1738
01:28:40.680 --> 01:28:43.239
<v Speaker 3>really horrible imagery. He barely noticed that. There's baby dolls,

1739
01:28:43.239 --> 01:28:46.319
<v Speaker 3>take to the wall. There's a guy with a dead

1740
01:28:46.399 --> 01:28:49.319
<v Speaker 3>chicken on his head and he's smoking out of a bong.

1741
01:28:49.439 --> 01:28:53.760
<v Speaker 3>So it's just really gross imagery. And then they start

1742
01:28:53.760 --> 01:28:55.960
<v Speaker 3>discussing what they gotta do, right, we gotta we gotta

1743
01:28:55.960 --> 01:29:00.399
<v Speaker 3>get this money. We gotta get this money, y'all. And

1744
01:29:00.439 --> 01:29:03.600
<v Speaker 3>it shows him snorting coke, which is like right, you know,

1745
01:29:03.640 --> 01:29:05.560
<v Speaker 3>and that she she has a gun. The girl actually

1746
01:29:05.560 --> 01:29:07.119
<v Speaker 3>has a squirt gun. Do you see that part? She's

1747
01:29:07.119 --> 01:29:08.279
<v Speaker 3>got a square guns, she squirts the.

1748
01:29:08.640 --> 01:29:11.720
<v Speaker 2>She's like drinking alcohol and sucking on it like it's

1749
01:29:11.760 --> 01:29:14.680
<v Speaker 2>a pp which comes up later in the growth scene

1750
01:29:14.720 --> 01:29:16.920
<v Speaker 2>with James Franco sucking the guns like.

1751
01:29:16.880 --> 01:29:18.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh man, I forgot about that. That's one of the

1752
01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:23.720
<v Speaker 3>best disgusting things ever put on film. James Franco filating

1753
01:29:23.760 --> 01:29:30.760
<v Speaker 3>a gun. Two guns, so bad. Yeah, James Franco true degenerate.

1754
01:29:31.760 --> 01:29:34.399
<v Speaker 2>And a big devote fan of Crowley too, by.

1755
01:29:34.279 --> 01:29:38.520
<v Speaker 3>The way, exactly, Yeah, he directed or him and Kenneth

1756
01:29:38.560 --> 01:29:40.119
<v Speaker 3>Anger are real good friends, aren't they?

1757
01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Good? Point? Yes, My next note says, uh, that we

1758
01:29:47.760 --> 01:29:51.920
<v Speaker 2>see him rapping, right, and he's called alien.

1759
01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:54.319
<v Speaker 3>So he's from this planet y'all.

1760
01:29:55.039 --> 01:29:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I ain't from this planet. I'm here and I'm

1761
01:29:58.239 --> 01:30:00.279
<v Speaker 2>gonna take you to another world and all this stuff.

1762
01:30:01.319 --> 01:30:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Almost like he is like an like he's another being,

1763
01:30:04.000 --> 01:30:06.880
<v Speaker 2>like another I see him as almost like a devil

1764
01:30:07.000 --> 01:30:11.279
<v Speaker 2>type character, because uh he What happens is, of course

1765
01:30:11.279 --> 01:30:14.119
<v Speaker 2>they go, they party hardy, and then they end up

1766
01:30:14.479 --> 01:30:19.800
<v Speaker 2>these two gross twin dudes with with you know, grills,

1767
01:30:20.800 --> 01:30:24.279
<v Speaker 2>these two skanky white dudes trying to be thugs. Uh,

1768
01:30:24.359 --> 01:30:28.520
<v Speaker 2>they're supplying their party with with drugs and they end

1769
01:30:28.640 --> 01:30:31.880
<v Speaker 2>up getting arrested, right, So the girls all get arrested,

1770
01:30:32.399 --> 01:30:34.680
<v Speaker 2>and we almost think it was kind of by design

1771
01:30:34.800 --> 01:30:37.479
<v Speaker 2>because the two the two white dudes, the two twins,

1772
01:30:38.039 --> 01:30:42.199
<v Speaker 2>were at the party bringing the drugs. They're working for

1773
01:30:43.479 --> 01:30:47.600
<v Speaker 2>riff raff, and so he.

1774
01:30:47.520 --> 01:30:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Busts them out of jail and he's like, oh, what's so, y'all,

1775
01:30:50.680 --> 01:30:52.359
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to be nice, bust.

1776
01:30:52.199 --> 01:30:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Y'all out of jail, you know what I'm saying. Wat y'all,

1777
01:30:55.000 --> 01:30:57.000
<v Speaker 2>comes chill with me, what's up? And then he starts

1778
01:30:57.239 --> 01:31:00.800
<v Speaker 2>immediately hits them with like you know y'all have a

1779
01:31:01.279 --> 01:31:02.920
<v Speaker 2>double double dung inside.

1780
01:31:03.039 --> 01:31:06.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, no's yeah so gross. Well, first, what happened though,

1781
01:31:06.800 --> 01:31:09.760
<v Speaker 3>is they the girls robbed. You mentioned this. They've robbed

1782
01:31:09.800 --> 01:31:13.439
<v Speaker 3>a diner to get some money. They had it, but

1783
01:31:13.479 --> 01:31:17.319
<v Speaker 3>it's not faith. So faith is Selena Gomez's character, who's

1784
01:31:17.399 --> 01:31:19.760
<v Speaker 3>kind of the more innocent girl, like she doesn't really

1785
01:31:19.800 --> 01:31:21.359
<v Speaker 3>want to be doing the drugs, but they're like, here

1786
01:31:21.439 --> 01:31:23.640
<v Speaker 3>smoke this, you know, here takes So she's but she

1787
01:31:23.680 --> 01:31:27.199
<v Speaker 3>has nothing to fight it with. Right, there's no real

1788
01:31:27.359 --> 01:31:29.880
<v Speaker 3>resistance even though you could tell she's not sold on it.

1789
01:31:30.399 --> 01:31:32.680
<v Speaker 3>She has no resistance and you you kind of nailed

1790
01:31:32.720 --> 01:31:35.800
<v Speaker 3>it when saying, like, you know, her worldview because she's

1791
01:31:35.880 --> 01:31:38.920
<v Speaker 3>not connected to anything spiritually strong enough to oppose it.

1792
01:31:39.000 --> 01:31:42.199
<v Speaker 2>She can't. Yeah, it's it's it's very childish evangelicalism. It

1793
01:31:42.239 --> 01:31:48.920
<v Speaker 2>wasn't it wasn't enough to to convince her that this

1794
01:31:49.439 --> 01:31:52.600
<v Speaker 2>degeneracy wasn't appealing, This pure hedonism wasn't appealing. So she

1795
01:31:52.640 --> 01:31:56.039
<v Speaker 2>falls into it, you know, pretty quick. But she's the

1796
01:31:56.039 --> 01:31:58.279
<v Speaker 2>one that starts having reservations because she does have at

1797
01:31:58.359 --> 01:32:01.359
<v Speaker 2>least some moral compass. Her friends have no moral compass whatsoever.

1798
01:32:01.600 --> 01:32:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Right, Right, they go to this party there once they

1799
01:32:03.640 --> 01:32:05.880
<v Speaker 3>finally get the spring break, they're just doing drugs. The

1800
01:32:05.960 --> 01:32:08.880
<v Speaker 3>chicks are they They they become very kind of demonic,

1801
01:32:09.079 --> 01:32:09.680
<v Speaker 3>especially the.

1802
01:32:09.640 --> 01:32:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Blondels, so you just have nothing human human about them.

1803
01:32:14.279 --> 01:32:17.079
<v Speaker 2>They're just completely it's just evil after evil after evil,

1804
01:32:17.119 --> 01:32:17.800
<v Speaker 2>right mm hmm.

1805
01:32:18.640 --> 01:32:20.760
<v Speaker 3>There was that scene in the in the room where

1806
01:32:20.800 --> 01:32:23.920
<v Speaker 3>they're they're doing coke and stuff at this party and

1807
01:32:23.960 --> 01:32:26.359
<v Speaker 3>one of those twins, who the twins? Do you know

1808
01:32:26.359 --> 01:32:30.600
<v Speaker 3>who they are? They're actually like internet celebrities, those twins.

1809
01:32:30.600 --> 01:32:33.800
<v Speaker 3>They're called the atl Twins, and they're like they're actually

1810
01:32:33.800 --> 01:32:38.479
<v Speaker 3>they're paralegals out of Atlanta and they're like super into

1811
01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:41.159
<v Speaker 3>pills and stuff. Uh, they were Internet celebs for a

1812
01:32:41.199 --> 01:32:47.319
<v Speaker 3>little while. Vice made them very popular. They're not even rappers.

1813
01:32:47.319 --> 01:32:51.560
<v Speaker 3>They're just like degenerate drug guys who like to have threesomes,

1814
01:32:51.560 --> 01:32:54.560
<v Speaker 3>like that's their whole thing is actually, you know, like

1815
01:32:54.640 --> 01:32:59.319
<v Speaker 3>James Franklins says, right, they're just degenerate, Like I don't

1816
01:32:59.359 --> 01:32:59.840
<v Speaker 3>know where.

1817
01:32:59.640 --> 01:33:02.760
<v Speaker 2>They two twin brothers that actually do like to share.

1818
01:33:03.239 --> 01:33:05.880
<v Speaker 3>They share women. They had the same girlfriend for a while.

1819
01:33:05.960 --> 01:33:09.079
<v Speaker 3>So it's weird because it blends the Internet reality and

1820
01:33:09.119 --> 01:33:12.159
<v Speaker 3>it shows them watching like Kimbo Slice fights when they're

1821
01:33:12.159 --> 01:33:15.199
<v Speaker 3>in the dorms too. So there's the internet culture is

1822
01:33:15.279 --> 01:33:18.840
<v Speaker 3>already permeating. And this was twenty thirteen this film came out.

1823
01:33:19.039 --> 01:33:21.439
<v Speaker 3>There was an interesting image with the ATL Twin guy.

1824
01:33:21.479 --> 01:33:23.800
<v Speaker 3>He's wearing a chain and it's got a serpent's head

1825
01:33:23.840 --> 01:33:28.720
<v Speaker 3>on it and a girl's filating the serpent's head a

1826
01:33:28.760 --> 01:33:31.000
<v Speaker 3>couple of seconds and it's very graphic.

1827
01:33:31.079 --> 01:33:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, they're like the hell hell Hounds. They're like

1828
01:33:35.039 --> 01:33:38.920
<v Speaker 2>James Franco's two hell hounds, right, like his demon dogs, right,

1829
01:33:39.039 --> 01:33:42.880
<v Speaker 2>like Simbaris or whatever. They double headed demon hound. And

1830
01:33:44.039 --> 01:33:47.039
<v Speaker 2>James Franco is this kind of alien demon type type

1831
01:33:47.039 --> 01:33:51.880
<v Speaker 2>figure who rescues them to offer them this new way

1832
01:33:51.920 --> 01:33:54.600
<v Speaker 2>of living, right like, you come with me, you know,

1833
01:33:54.720 --> 01:33:59.520
<v Speaker 2>be my harem basically, and you know I'll give you

1834
01:33:59.600 --> 01:34:02.039
<v Speaker 2>the life you want. Because he overhears them talking about,

1835
01:34:02.079 --> 01:34:03.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, I want to live in Florida forever.

1836
01:34:04.039 --> 01:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be out springing right forever, spraying

1837
01:34:07.000 --> 01:34:07.720
<v Speaker 1>right forever.

1838
01:34:08.039 --> 01:34:10.720
<v Speaker 3>Well, and they get they get arrested, right, so they're arrested,

1839
01:34:10.720 --> 01:34:13.600
<v Speaker 3>they can't post bail, and he's sitting there all predatory

1840
01:34:13.720 --> 01:34:16.199
<v Speaker 3>like in the in the audience or whatever for their

1841
01:34:16.239 --> 01:34:19.319
<v Speaker 3>court hearing, and it shows his grill and this really

1842
01:34:19.359 --> 01:34:23.439
<v Speaker 3>gross reveal shot where it's like I've got the most

1843
01:34:23.439 --> 01:34:26.640
<v Speaker 3>disgusting mouth. And then he's sitting out there. He's got

1844
01:34:26.640 --> 01:34:29.760
<v Speaker 3>this like corny ass Camaro with a dollar sign.

1845
01:34:30.399 --> 01:34:32.239
<v Speaker 2>Do you think he's going to be like this badass

1846
01:34:32.279 --> 01:34:38.319
<v Speaker 2>but he's actually kind of just attacky, mediocre level. He's

1847
01:34:38.359 --> 01:34:42.720
<v Speaker 2>not Scarface. Yeah, like he read shitty nineteen nineties d suit,

1848
01:34:42.840 --> 01:34:45.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, outfit in his bedroom, and.

1849
01:34:45.720 --> 01:34:48.079
<v Speaker 3>His cars like a ninety eight, like a ninety eight

1850
01:34:48.159 --> 01:34:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Camaro or something with gay rims that have like dollar signs,

1851
01:34:52.680 --> 01:34:53.159
<v Speaker 3>and he's.

1852
01:34:53.039 --> 01:34:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Got he's got what what would have been a really

1853
01:34:54.960 --> 01:34:58.319
<v Speaker 2>expensive house in the seventies, right, Yeah, like seventies you

1854
01:34:58.359 --> 01:35:02.079
<v Speaker 2>know style everyone where, and and if you it's funny

1855
01:35:02.079 --> 01:35:04.880
<v Speaker 2>because if you watch Scarface, it's kind of it's funny

1856
01:35:04.880 --> 01:35:09.640
<v Speaker 2>because in Scarface, when he renovates his mansion, it's very tacky,

1857
01:35:09.800 --> 01:35:12.880
<v Speaker 2>like it's all expensive but it's super gaudy and tacky,

1858
01:35:13.079 --> 01:35:16.439
<v Speaker 2>and he's like a B grade Scarface, Like he's like

1859
01:35:16.479 --> 01:35:20.359
<v Speaker 2>a knockoff scarface with with with tacky ship everywhere. But

1860
01:35:20.399 --> 01:35:22.439
<v Speaker 2>he's really proud of it. He's like, I built out this.

1861
01:35:22.560 --> 01:35:25.119
<v Speaker 2>You see all this, I built out This is my yet.

1862
01:35:25.399 --> 01:35:26.640
<v Speaker 2>This is my yet.

1863
01:35:27.279 --> 01:35:28.680
<v Speaker 3>That's one of the best scenes. That's one of my

1864
01:35:28.720 --> 01:35:29.720
<v Speaker 3>favorite scenes in the movie.

1865
01:35:30.159 --> 01:35:32.520
<v Speaker 4>Look at all my ship, Look at all these ship.

1866
01:35:33.720 --> 01:35:36.119
<v Speaker 4>They got scarface. Oh repeat, I.

1867
01:35:38.039 --> 01:35:42.960
<v Speaker 3>Got shirt hands, I got shirt, got my dark handed oil.

1868
01:35:43.159 --> 01:35:45.600
<v Speaker 4>Lay down by the pool with my dark hand and oil.

1869
01:35:46.880 --> 01:35:49.079
<v Speaker 3>But he you know, it's it's just that seems amazing.

1870
01:35:49.159 --> 01:35:54.760
<v Speaker 2>He's got this stupid piano out by the rule of which,

1871
01:35:54.920 --> 01:35:57.359
<v Speaker 2>like you know, you know, he saw some some rap

1872
01:35:57.479 --> 01:35:59.840
<v Speaker 2>video or some R and B video with R Kelly

1873
01:35:59.840 --> 01:36:03.399
<v Speaker 2>out by the pool playing Piano's put a pool by

1874
01:36:03.399 --> 01:36:06.199
<v Speaker 2>the piano. That's gonna be sweet Dog exactly.

1875
01:36:06.279 --> 01:36:07.359
<v Speaker 4>It's it's so funny.

1876
01:36:07.399 --> 01:36:09.279
<v Speaker 3>So what I thought was interesting too though, when he

1877
01:36:09.319 --> 01:36:11.560
<v Speaker 3>first meets the girls and they have their kind of reveal,

1878
01:36:12.960 --> 01:36:16.039
<v Speaker 3>the three girls, the three blonde checks, are pretty into them.

1879
01:36:16.039 --> 01:36:18.319
<v Speaker 3>They're just like, yeah, this guy's kind of cool. Uh,

1880
01:36:18.359 --> 01:36:19.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, they're basically asking, well, what do you want

1881
01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:22.479
<v Speaker 3>from us? What do you want? He's just like guy.

1882
01:36:23.159 --> 01:36:25.199
<v Speaker 3>And then he has faith her name. He's like, what's

1883
01:36:25.239 --> 01:36:28.079
<v Speaker 3>your name? And this scene is actually a very horrific

1884
01:36:28.159 --> 01:36:30.560
<v Speaker 3>scene when he's talking to atl twins or sitting across

1885
01:36:30.600 --> 01:36:33.079
<v Speaker 3>from him. He says, like, you know what they're into, right,

1886
01:36:33.119 --> 01:36:38.359
<v Speaker 3>they dope penetration, just really gross, Like he graphically describes

1887
01:36:38.399 --> 01:36:41.880
<v Speaker 3>their sexual desires, and then they're smiling at him and

1888
01:36:41.920 --> 01:36:44.600
<v Speaker 3>licking their grills and stuff. And then he asks Faith.

1889
01:36:44.640 --> 01:36:47.720
<v Speaker 3>He says, what's your name? She tells him Faith. He's like, oh,

1890
01:36:47.760 --> 01:36:50.720
<v Speaker 3>that's interesting, Like, you know you you believe in God.

1891
01:36:51.119 --> 01:36:54.560
<v Speaker 3>You got faith, like very very aggressively, right. She's like,

1892
01:36:55.039 --> 01:36:57.760
<v Speaker 3>uh yeah. He's like, you did a lot of praying.

1893
01:36:58.119 --> 01:36:59.600
<v Speaker 3>You pray for your friends here.

1894
01:36:59.680 --> 01:37:01.640
<v Speaker 6>You do lot praying for your friends here.

1895
01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:02.920
<v Speaker 3>She's like yeah.

1896
01:37:03.039 --> 01:37:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1897
01:37:03.840 --> 01:37:06.520
<v Speaker 3>He's like you know, I was thinking. He's like, maybe

1898
01:37:06.560 --> 01:37:09.359
<v Speaker 3>that I'm the answer to your prayers. Maybe I'm asked

1899
01:37:09.399 --> 01:37:11.600
<v Speaker 3>to your prayers. So he's like steps in and just

1900
01:37:11.720 --> 01:37:14.720
<v Speaker 3>openly takes the Luciferian kind of you know, satanic, like,

1901
01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:18.560
<v Speaker 3>I'll replace God for you, I'll answer all your prayers.

1902
01:37:19.079 --> 01:37:21.119
<v Speaker 2>And then yeah, I ain't from this planet. I ain't

1903
01:37:21.159 --> 01:37:21.760
<v Speaker 2>from this planet.

1904
01:37:21.800 --> 01:37:23.319
<v Speaker 4>I'm from this planet, y'all.

1905
01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:27.319
<v Speaker 3>But they go they go to his his pad, They

1906
01:37:27.359 --> 01:37:28.960
<v Speaker 3>go to his pad, and I think that's one of

1907
01:37:28.960 --> 01:37:32.720
<v Speaker 3>the funniest scenes is when he he shows them his house.

1908
01:37:33.000 --> 01:37:35.640
<v Speaker 2>And he's also got his tattoos significant because it's a

1909
01:37:35.680 --> 01:37:41.199
<v Speaker 2>dollar sign, right, and that's what these alpha thoughts that

1910
01:37:41.279 --> 01:37:43.960
<v Speaker 2>have led faith down this path. That's all there they've

1911
01:37:43.960 --> 01:37:47.000
<v Speaker 2>been after this whole time. Was that money? That money? Yep,

1912
01:37:47.640 --> 01:37:52.199
<v Speaker 2>And he's got the dollars on tattoo on his neck,

1913
01:37:53.199 --> 01:37:56.880
<v Speaker 2>on his neck. Oh. And then then he he reveals

1914
01:37:56.880 --> 01:37:58.479
<v Speaker 2>it a little bit ahead of time too, when he

1915
01:37:58.520 --> 01:38:00.600
<v Speaker 2>talks about the sharks. He says, don't gls women at

1916
01:38:00.600 --> 01:38:03.640
<v Speaker 2>water at night. There's sharks, a lot of sharks. He says.

1917
01:38:03.640 --> 01:38:06.479
<v Speaker 2>They're predatory animals, just waiting, just waiting.

1918
01:38:06.840 --> 01:38:15.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, lark lark and larking and there lurking, he says,

1919
01:38:15.560 --> 01:38:17.560
<v Speaker 3>like three times. And something that I thought was interesting

1920
01:38:17.600 --> 01:38:19.439
<v Speaker 3>about the film the editing. They loop a lot of things,

1921
01:38:19.479 --> 01:38:23.319
<v Speaker 3>so there's a lot of loop was telling before we started.

1922
01:38:23.319 --> 01:38:25.880
<v Speaker 3>It's like it's like it was edited by scrill.

1923
01:38:25.760 --> 01:38:28.439
<v Speaker 2>X, like a rapper or like scrill X, Yeah, like

1924
01:38:28.479 --> 01:38:30.960
<v Speaker 2>the exactly.

1925
01:38:31.279 --> 01:38:32.840
<v Speaker 3>So then they get in his car, they go on

1926
01:38:32.880 --> 01:38:35.399
<v Speaker 3>his ride. They're in his vehicle. He brings them to

1927
01:38:35.479 --> 01:38:38.760
<v Speaker 3>this like trap house party, right, it's he brings them

1928
01:38:38.760 --> 01:38:41.479
<v Speaker 3>to this house with these gangsters.

1929
01:38:40.960 --> 01:38:42.880
<v Speaker 2>And it's like super ghetto, dude.

1930
01:38:43.199 --> 01:38:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and the vibe there, you know that that scene

1931
01:38:45.720 --> 01:38:48.319
<v Speaker 3>they actually apparently shot that, Like those are all real

1932
01:38:48.399 --> 01:38:52.520
<v Speaker 3>gangsters and and the girls were actually legitimately freaked out.

1933
01:38:54.720 --> 01:38:56.560
<v Speaker 3>I watched some of some of these interviews and they're

1934
01:38:56.560 --> 01:39:00.159
<v Speaker 3>talking and the girls were the actresses said that they

1935
01:39:00.199 --> 01:39:03.520
<v Speaker 3>were legitimately scared of James Franco, Like he was always

1936
01:39:03.520 --> 01:39:05.960
<v Speaker 3>in character when they were filming, and he was like

1937
01:39:06.119 --> 01:39:09.920
<v Speaker 3>obsessive and really he was very, very very freaky to them. So, yeah,

1938
01:39:09.920 --> 01:39:12.960
<v Speaker 3>they go to this trap house and Faith freaks out.

1939
01:39:13.920 --> 01:39:16.039
<v Speaker 3>He has a conversation whether her alien, tries to get

1940
01:39:16.039 --> 01:39:18.279
<v Speaker 3>her to stay, and then she says, no, I'm leaving.

1941
01:39:18.319 --> 01:39:20.000
<v Speaker 3>And then she leaves. She gets on the bus and

1942
01:39:20.359 --> 01:39:23.359
<v Speaker 3>shows her hand against the window. I'm going back to

1943
01:39:23.399 --> 01:39:28.039
<v Speaker 3>my life. So Faith actually gets saved from the debauchery

1944
01:39:28.039 --> 01:39:30.119
<v Speaker 3>that happens later on to a certain extent. I thought

1945
01:39:30.119 --> 01:39:33.359
<v Speaker 3>that was interesting and in a very satanic movie, the

1946
01:39:33.399 --> 01:39:36.239
<v Speaker 3>one character that even though she has kind of a

1947
01:39:36.279 --> 01:39:42.760
<v Speaker 3>distorted connection to reality, she does she leaves this fake world.

1948
01:39:43.760 --> 01:39:46.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was right, she knew that this wasn't gonna go. Well,

1949
01:39:47.680 --> 01:39:50.159
<v Speaker 2>but what's interesting is that the real villains aren't who

1950
01:39:50.199 --> 01:39:53.399
<v Speaker 2>you think. The real villains aren't Gucci Mane, and they're

1951
01:39:53.399 --> 01:39:57.560
<v Speaker 2>not Alien. The real hard demons turn out to be

1952
01:39:58.239 --> 01:40:00.560
<v Speaker 2>other than what you think. Yeah.

1953
01:40:00.960 --> 01:40:03.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So when you first see Alien, you kind of

1954
01:40:03.920 --> 01:40:07.079
<v Speaker 3>he's like basically the Satan character, Right, this guy seems

1955
01:40:07.119 --> 01:40:10.279
<v Speaker 3>like he's pure evil, and he's so hokey. He's kind

1956
01:40:10.279 --> 01:40:11.399
<v Speaker 3>of funny but also.

1957
01:40:11.199 --> 01:40:13.479
<v Speaker 2>Really yes, right, he's corny.

1958
01:40:13.359 --> 01:40:17.359
<v Speaker 3>Super corny. But then there's something about that the performance

1959
01:40:17.399 --> 01:40:19.000
<v Speaker 3>that's just I mean, I'm not a fan of like

1960
01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:20.840
<v Speaker 3>I think James Franco's probably you know, he seems like

1961
01:40:20.840 --> 01:40:24.039
<v Speaker 3>he's kind of a degenerate and in reality, but he

1962
01:40:24.039 --> 01:40:27.399
<v Speaker 3>did put on really good performances in this just artistically,

1963
01:40:27.439 --> 01:40:31.159
<v Speaker 3>he did a great job. And then let's see what

1964
01:40:31.199 --> 01:40:33.000
<v Speaker 3>happened next. Remember what happens next.

1965
01:40:35.239 --> 01:40:38.800
<v Speaker 2>We introduced to We're introduced to Gucci Mane. Gucci Mane

1966
01:40:38.880 --> 01:40:42.439
<v Speaker 2>is the big time gangster. He's got the actual estate,

1967
01:40:43.239 --> 01:40:47.880
<v Speaker 2>whereas you know, Alien is a mid level, mid tier gangster.

1968
01:40:48.520 --> 01:40:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Gucci Mane's got the biggest state. He gets in his

1969
01:40:50.840 --> 01:40:51.560
<v Speaker 2>face says.

1970
01:40:51.399 --> 01:40:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I brought you up, dog, I owned these streets, own

1971
01:40:54.960 --> 01:40:56.479
<v Speaker 1>these streets, and.

1972
01:40:57.359 --> 01:41:00.279
<v Speaker 2>You can tell the aliens resenting him. Alien wants, you know,

1973
01:41:00.319 --> 01:41:02.960
<v Speaker 2>to be the big dog. He's jealous of him. He

1974
01:41:03.000 --> 01:41:06.479
<v Speaker 2>wants to be running the streets, but you know, he's

1975
01:41:06.520 --> 01:41:13.359
<v Speaker 2>too scared to do anything. And so then we have

1976
01:41:13.520 --> 01:41:18.000
<v Speaker 2>this sequence where he's he's trying to basically get that

1977
01:41:18.479 --> 01:41:22.760
<v Speaker 2>get the gumption up to do something, and he's still scared.

1978
01:41:23.560 --> 01:41:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Gucci Mane pulls up and shoots his car and a

1979
01:41:26.720 --> 01:41:30.520
<v Speaker 2>stray bullet hits one of those chicks in the arm,

1980
01:41:31.279 --> 01:41:33.600
<v Speaker 2>and that's almost enough to send him over, but then

1981
01:41:33.720 --> 01:41:37.039
<v Speaker 2>his his the two that shit goes home. Right then

1982
01:41:37.079 --> 01:41:40.039
<v Speaker 2>she yeah too, look I'm out of this, I got

1983
01:41:40.039 --> 01:41:40.840
<v Speaker 2>a bullets.

1984
01:41:40.560 --> 01:41:42.800
<v Speaker 3>Weird, right, So she ended up marrying him. I think

1985
01:41:42.840 --> 01:41:46.680
<v Speaker 3>she's still married to him. They have a kid.

1986
01:41:47.439 --> 01:41:51.680
<v Speaker 2>So then he, uh, Alien's like, all right, that's enough,

1987
01:41:51.720 --> 01:41:58.239
<v Speaker 2>that's enough. And the two remaining hoes basically have to

1988
01:41:58.279 --> 01:42:01.039
<v Speaker 2>sleep with him and you know, sort of build them

1989
01:42:01.119 --> 01:42:05.800
<v Speaker 2>build up his his prowess. Right. Well, they it seems

1990
01:42:05.800 --> 01:42:08.079
<v Speaker 2>like they because they want him to do it. They're

1991
01:42:08.119 --> 01:42:09.199
<v Speaker 2>the ones that are really wanting it.

1992
01:42:09.359 --> 01:42:11.760
<v Speaker 3>They want to demonically influence him in a certain way,

1993
01:42:11.760 --> 01:42:14.399
<v Speaker 3>like they're they're constantly trying to egg him on, and

1994
01:42:14.399 --> 01:42:15.800
<v Speaker 3>they think it's just entertainment.

1995
01:42:16.399 --> 01:42:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Well you think he's the predator, that's what the thing is,

1996
01:42:18.840 --> 01:42:20.760
<v Speaker 2>and those two chicks are the real predators. And you

1997
01:42:20.800 --> 01:42:24.039
<v Speaker 2>start to get that, and he almost legitimately looks scared

1998
01:42:24.039 --> 01:42:27.319
<v Speaker 2>when they grab the guns and make him suck the guns.

1999
01:42:27.520 --> 01:42:29.319
<v Speaker 3>That's one of the most horrific parts.

2000
01:42:29.359 --> 01:42:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, So he actually looks starts looking scared like whoa yeah, but.

2001
01:42:32.800 --> 01:42:33.479
<v Speaker 4>Then he loves it.

2002
01:42:33.520 --> 01:42:35.439
<v Speaker 3>Then he's like ooh like and then he tells him

2003
01:42:35.760 --> 01:42:36.840
<v Speaker 3>y'all my soulmates.

2004
01:42:37.520 --> 01:42:39.840
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so now he's got a new set of

2005
01:42:40.119 --> 01:42:44.359
<v Speaker 2>uh hell hounds to work with him.

2006
01:42:44.840 --> 01:42:45.000
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

2007
01:42:45.039 --> 01:42:47.000
<v Speaker 2>And then the I ring I don't I don't know

2008
01:42:47.000 --> 01:42:48.560
<v Speaker 2>what to make of the Britney thing other than here

2009
01:42:48.600 --> 01:42:52.079
<v Speaker 2>we have Brittany, another Disney princess, right, who's turned into

2010
01:42:52.119 --> 01:42:56.000
<v Speaker 2>these one of these mind control hose uh, you know,

2011
01:42:56.159 --> 01:42:59.079
<v Speaker 2>horror Babylon type things where she goes from innocent princess

2012
01:42:59.119 --> 01:43:03.439
<v Speaker 2>to horror Babylon And they're all singing Britney songs. And

2013
01:43:03.439 --> 01:43:06.119
<v Speaker 2>by the way, there's at least two Britney songs that

2014
01:43:06.199 --> 01:43:07.039
<v Speaker 2>come up in the movie.

2015
01:43:07.159 --> 01:43:09.720
<v Speaker 3>Well, so it's there's the scene, all right, So they

2016
01:43:09.760 --> 01:43:12.800
<v Speaker 3>go to his house, but it skips around in time

2017
01:43:12.840 --> 01:43:14.680
<v Speaker 3>a little bit, right because it's just the two girls

2018
01:43:14.720 --> 01:43:17.880
<v Speaker 3>are in his bedroom and he's showing them. He's showing

2019
01:43:17.920 --> 01:43:18.720
<v Speaker 3>them all his stuff.

2020
01:43:18.760 --> 01:43:19.000
<v Speaker 2>All right.

2021
01:43:19.000 --> 01:43:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Maybe can you play audio like brief clips of audio

2022
01:43:22.000 --> 01:43:26.720
<v Speaker 3>from films without getting demonetized. Eh, I'll do ten seconds.

2023
01:43:27.680 --> 01:43:32.520
<v Speaker 3>Franklin's here, we take all they can take, all shit,

2024
01:43:33.600 --> 01:43:36.800
<v Speaker 3>my shit, I got my blue koole. I don't know

2025
01:43:36.800 --> 01:43:37.840
<v Speaker 3>if you could hear that. I don't know if the

2026
01:43:37.880 --> 01:43:39.479
<v Speaker 3>audio goes through Skype when I do that. But he's

2027
01:43:39.760 --> 01:43:41.920
<v Speaker 3>jumping on his bed and his bed is full of money.

2028
01:43:42.600 --> 01:43:44.319
<v Speaker 3>His bed is filled with money, and he's got these

2029
01:43:44.319 --> 01:43:46.680
<v Speaker 3>two young girls with him and they love it. And

2030
01:43:46.720 --> 01:43:49.079
<v Speaker 3>he's got guns and money all over his bed, guns

2031
01:43:49.119 --> 01:43:52.960
<v Speaker 3>and weapons all over his walls. And he's jumping around

2032
01:43:53.199 --> 01:43:56.960
<v Speaker 3>in this like ecstatic state, talking about his spiritual his

2033
01:43:57.039 --> 01:44:00.399
<v Speaker 3>spiritual realm, which is just all his ship.

2034
01:44:00.920 --> 01:44:01.920
<v Speaker 4>Look at my ship.

2035
01:44:02.520 --> 01:44:03.720
<v Speaker 3>So I thought, I thought this was one of the

2036
01:44:03.720 --> 01:44:05.920
<v Speaker 3>best scenes in the film. And it just he's going

2037
01:44:05.960 --> 01:44:08.319
<v Speaker 3>through all his weapons and his guns and his money

2038
01:44:08.680 --> 01:44:10.039
<v Speaker 3>and his Calvin Klins.

2039
01:44:10.159 --> 01:44:11.720
<v Speaker 4>I got Calvin Klin escape.

2040
01:44:12.359 --> 01:44:13.760
<v Speaker 3>I smelled mess.

2041
01:44:13.640 --> 01:44:15.680
<v Speaker 2>And it squirts it like twenty times and both of you,

2042
01:44:15.800 --> 01:44:16.760
<v Speaker 2>like you could even mix them.

2043
01:44:16.880 --> 01:44:20.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, He's like take Calvin Klin Escape Calvin Klein b

2044
01:44:20.359 --> 01:44:21.359
<v Speaker 4>and he's sprays.

2045
01:44:21.039 --> 01:44:23.680
<v Speaker 3>It both on them. It shows all his his caps,

2046
01:44:23.720 --> 01:44:25.640
<v Speaker 3>all his hats that still have the stickers on it,

2047
01:44:25.680 --> 01:44:26.760
<v Speaker 3>all of his sneakers.

2048
01:44:27.079 --> 01:44:28.960
<v Speaker 4>He's like, I got shorts every color.

2049
01:44:29.479 --> 01:44:31.720
<v Speaker 2>He's like, color shorts.

2050
01:44:31.319 --> 01:44:32.880
<v Speaker 4>I got, I got shorts.

2051
01:44:33.680 --> 01:44:36.359
<v Speaker 3>His accent is so funny, and it's like you're cracking

2052
01:44:36.439 --> 01:44:38.359
<v Speaker 3>up watching the scene. But at the same time, it's

2053
01:44:38.359 --> 01:44:43.079
<v Speaker 3>like that is the millennial MTV dream, right, you know,

2054
01:44:43.159 --> 01:44:47.479
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of a bunch of weapons and money and uh, bitches,

2055
01:44:47.520 --> 01:44:50.079
<v Speaker 3>I got my bitches, I got my ship, I got

2056
01:44:50.119 --> 01:44:50.920
<v Speaker 3>my possessions.

2057
01:44:51.600 --> 01:44:51.720
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

2058
01:44:51.800 --> 01:44:53.920
<v Speaker 3>But it really is home. It's very it's there's nothing

2059
01:44:53.920 --> 01:44:58.600
<v Speaker 3>cool about it. The bed looks like, uh, you know scarfaces,

2060
01:44:58.720 --> 01:44:59.000
<v Speaker 3>you know.

2061
01:44:58.960 --> 01:45:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Some eighties out of date. It's uh, it's it's if

2062
01:45:02.600 --> 01:45:04.199
<v Speaker 2>you come, if you're if you're in Florida. You see

2063
01:45:04.199 --> 01:45:06.079
<v Speaker 2>a lot of those kind of houses that were you know,

2064
01:45:06.119 --> 01:45:08.399
<v Speaker 2>they were probably a million dollars back in the seventies

2065
01:45:08.439 --> 01:45:10.239
<v Speaker 2>and now they're all kind of run down. They look

2066
01:45:10.279 --> 01:45:12.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of nasty. On the ocean and the property would

2067
01:45:12.880 --> 01:45:15.159
<v Speaker 2>still cost a lot, but you know, the houses are

2068
01:45:15.159 --> 01:45:21.439
<v Speaker 2>pretty gross. So yeah, he's he's definitely in his mind,

2069
01:45:21.479 --> 01:45:24.560
<v Speaker 2>he's way above what he actually is. And it's funny

2070
01:45:24.600 --> 01:45:26.239
<v Speaker 2>too when he talks about his rap career, when he's

2071
01:45:26.239 --> 01:45:29.279
<v Speaker 2>describing who he is, he's like, oh, no, I sell drugs.

2072
01:45:29.319 --> 01:45:31.720
<v Speaker 2>But but he's like, but you see my YouTube videos.

2073
01:45:31.720 --> 01:45:32.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm about to.

2074
01:45:32.199 --> 01:45:34.640
<v Speaker 4>Blow up, Yeah, up on youth.

2075
01:45:34.720 --> 01:45:36.920
<v Speaker 3>He's like, I stand in front all these people, like

2076
01:45:37.359 --> 01:45:38.119
<v Speaker 3>I swear to God.

2077
01:45:39.560 --> 01:45:41.600
<v Speaker 4>He's like, I swear to God. It's humbling, y'all.

2078
01:45:41.920 --> 01:45:43.640
<v Speaker 3>You know which I thought that was a funny moment

2079
01:45:43.640 --> 01:45:46.119
<v Speaker 3>because you know when people usually say yeah, it was humbling,

2080
01:45:46.199 --> 01:45:50.079
<v Speaker 3>it's usually when they're humble bragging exactly, like it was

2081
01:45:50.119 --> 01:45:52.359
<v Speaker 3>so humbling, like having these people worship.

2082
01:45:52.159 --> 01:45:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Me, about to blow up on YouTube?

2083
01:45:56.039 --> 01:45:57.000
<v Speaker 4>Got my song on YouTube?

2084
01:45:57.039 --> 01:45:58.399
<v Speaker 3>What was the song called, like hanging with.

2085
01:45:58.359 --> 01:46:00.920
<v Speaker 2>The Dope Boys or something something dumbya.

2086
01:46:00.720 --> 01:46:02.479
<v Speaker 3>Some like trap song and the music.

2087
01:46:04.560 --> 01:46:05.920
<v Speaker 2>And with the Dope Boys.

2088
01:46:06.000 --> 01:46:09.840
<v Speaker 3>Right, So then he starts jumping around in ecstasy, grabbing

2089
01:46:09.840 --> 01:46:11.239
<v Speaker 3>his gun to saying I'm gonna.

2090
01:46:11.079 --> 01:46:11.960
<v Speaker 4>Kill that motherfucker.

2091
01:46:12.000 --> 01:46:15.359
<v Speaker 3>I won't kill that mother and the girls are like yeah, yeah,

2092
01:46:15.399 --> 01:46:18.359
<v Speaker 3>like we love it, and then the girls.

2093
01:46:18.119 --> 01:46:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Then then he's then they're like, you're scared, You're scared,

2094
01:46:20.960 --> 01:46:21.560
<v Speaker 2>you're scared.

2095
01:46:21.920 --> 01:46:23.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what what what are you gonna do? When you

2096
01:46:23.560 --> 01:46:25.399
<v Speaker 3>what are you gonna do about it? He starts, oh no.

2097
01:46:25.560 --> 01:46:27.880
<v Speaker 3>He takes the money and he like puts it up

2098
01:46:27.920 --> 01:46:30.359
<v Speaker 3>next to her face, and she's like says something about

2099
01:46:30.399 --> 01:46:32.680
<v Speaker 3>like this makes my.

2100
01:46:32.680 --> 01:46:35.880
<v Speaker 6>Pussy wet or something like the money makes my pussy wet.

2101
01:46:35.840 --> 01:46:38.079
<v Speaker 3>Which was just it's so cringey. Every one of the

2102
01:46:38.079 --> 01:46:40.600
<v Speaker 3>girl's lines. It's like you want to cringe. I think

2103
01:46:40.640 --> 01:46:42.880
<v Speaker 3>earlier in the film, when they first stole the money,

2104
01:46:43.039 --> 01:46:44.119
<v Speaker 3>one of them said like.

2105
01:46:44.199 --> 01:46:45.760
<v Speaker 6>It makes my tits look bigger.

2106
01:46:47.760 --> 01:46:50.399
<v Speaker 3>It's like really funny lines like this money makes my

2107
01:46:50.479 --> 01:46:51.159
<v Speaker 3>kids look Now.

2108
01:46:51.159 --> 01:46:57.600
<v Speaker 2>The dialogue was very base, very very degenerate, very dumb uh,

2109
01:46:57.920 --> 01:46:59.800
<v Speaker 2>which is a little off putting because you think, is

2110
01:46:59.840 --> 01:47:02.199
<v Speaker 2>the dialogue did he ride it that bad? Or is

2111
01:47:02.239 --> 01:47:05.560
<v Speaker 2>he just literally trying to describe how idiotic eighteen year

2112
01:47:05.600 --> 01:47:07.159
<v Speaker 2>olds would be talking you know what I mean?

2113
01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:10.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I think it was intentional, Like it's

2114
01:47:10.199 --> 01:47:13.680
<v Speaker 3>intentionally corny. The acting is intentionally like when the girls

2115
01:47:13.760 --> 01:47:18.359
<v Speaker 3>deliver lines, they are just repeating shit they heard on TV. Right,

2116
01:47:18.359 --> 01:47:20.840
<v Speaker 3>there's nothing coming from their soul. They're not speaking from

2117
01:47:20.880 --> 01:47:24.279
<v Speaker 3>their true self. It's just, you know, saying shit that

2118
01:47:24.279 --> 01:47:24.720
<v Speaker 3>they heard.

2119
01:47:24.920 --> 01:47:26.640
<v Speaker 6>The money makes my taste look bigger.

2120
01:47:26.800 --> 01:47:30.479
<v Speaker 3>That's like, there's nothing. It's very unattractive right there. It's

2121
01:47:30.560 --> 01:47:36.279
<v Speaker 3>very off putting, and they're they're destroying themselves the m Yeah.

2122
01:47:36.399 --> 01:47:39.039
<v Speaker 3>So then and then the chicks they take his guns

2123
01:47:39.680 --> 01:47:42.560
<v Speaker 3>and they and he's like, that's loaded, y'all, and they

2124
01:47:42.600 --> 01:47:45.359
<v Speaker 3>put it. They put the gun up to his head

2125
01:47:45.359 --> 01:47:48.640
<v Speaker 3>and they're like, how do you know what they say do?

2126
01:47:48.720 --> 01:47:50.800
<v Speaker 3>They say, like, how do you know we're not just

2127
01:47:50.840 --> 01:47:53.039
<v Speaker 3>going We're not just here to take all your shit?

2128
01:47:54.279 --> 01:47:56.039
<v Speaker 3>How do you know that we're not here? Let's say,

2129
01:47:56.079 --> 01:48:01.039
<v Speaker 3>I'll play the audio from this from this part. You

2130
01:48:01.079 --> 01:48:03.800
<v Speaker 3>think that you can just you think you can just

2131
01:48:03.840 --> 01:48:07.960
<v Speaker 3>fucking on us, they say, And then they say open

2132
01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:10.239
<v Speaker 3>your mouth, and they put the guns in his mouth

2133
01:48:10.279 --> 01:48:12.960
<v Speaker 3>and they force him to like perform sexual acts on

2134
01:48:13.000 --> 01:48:16.319
<v Speaker 3>the guns. It's really really gross scene, very hard to watch.

2135
01:48:16.720 --> 01:48:18.520
<v Speaker 3>One of the more horrific scenes.

2136
01:48:18.640 --> 01:48:21.600
<v Speaker 2>That I turned away. It was a bit much gross.

2137
01:48:21.600 --> 01:48:25.840
<v Speaker 3>It's really disgusting. And then it cuts to them him

2138
01:48:25.880 --> 01:48:31.000
<v Speaker 3>at the piano, and they've got pink their outfits. Do

2139
01:48:31.039 --> 01:48:34.039
<v Speaker 3>you remember what they're wearing in this in this music video.

2140
01:48:34.399 --> 01:48:36.880
<v Speaker 2>On the on their butts of the of the of

2141
01:48:36.960 --> 01:48:41.319
<v Speaker 2>the sweatpants, it says deep down to d T F

2142
01:48:41.520 --> 01:48:45.680
<v Speaker 2>d TF, Right, it's like this pans over their face.

2143
01:48:46.079 --> 01:48:49.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's got the DTF pants and they're wearing a

2144
01:48:49.600 --> 01:48:54.359
<v Speaker 3>unicorn pink ski masks, and they've got guns and they

2145
01:48:54.359 --> 01:48:57.600
<v Speaker 3>sing a Britney Spears song and then it's this. It's

2146
01:48:57.640 --> 01:49:01.760
<v Speaker 3>basically a music video of these girls and James Franco

2147
01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:06.560
<v Speaker 3>performing acts of violence and robbing just like normal Americans. Right,

2148
01:49:06.600 --> 01:49:07.439
<v Speaker 3>So there's a wedding.

2149
01:49:07.600 --> 01:49:09.880
<v Speaker 2>It's almost like it's it's in the mind what what

2150
01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:13.880
<v Speaker 2>in the minds of those people, they would think, you know,

2151
01:49:14.039 --> 01:49:18.199
<v Speaker 2>making it up the ladder, you know, social climbing plan,

2152
01:49:18.399 --> 01:49:20.479
<v Speaker 2>doing the game, you know that like in their minds,

2153
01:49:20.560 --> 01:49:22.000
<v Speaker 2>that's how they think it is. It's like in a

2154
01:49:22.079 --> 01:49:22.680
<v Speaker 2>music video.

2155
01:49:23.119 --> 01:49:23.520
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

2156
01:49:24.159 --> 01:49:25.760
<v Speaker 2>It's like that's how you get to the top.

2157
01:49:25.840 --> 01:49:28.000
<v Speaker 3>And it's literally a music video. So they're dressed up

2158
01:49:28.039 --> 01:49:32.159
<v Speaker 3>in all their brand new sneakers, like bright hot sneakers,

2159
01:49:32.279 --> 01:49:35.159
<v Speaker 3>and their their starter caps or whatever and they're they're

2160
01:49:35.800 --> 01:49:39.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, just pistol whipping people and the uh they

2161
01:49:39.359 --> 01:49:42.039
<v Speaker 3>go to a wedding and they smash this dude into

2162
01:49:42.079 --> 01:49:44.359
<v Speaker 3>the cake and it's just this really corny music video.

2163
01:49:45.399 --> 01:49:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Basically they start robbing people on spring break and people

2164
01:49:49.600 --> 01:49:50.159
<v Speaker 2>having parties.

2165
01:49:50.239 --> 01:49:53.239
<v Speaker 3>Right, you know what, Jay, let me, let me let's

2166
01:49:53.239 --> 01:49:55.960
<v Speaker 3>re establish the sky call because I'm getting like audio interference.

2167
01:49:56.039 --> 01:49:57.600
<v Speaker 3>Let me just restart the sky call real quick.

2168
01:50:02.159 --> 01:50:17.239
<v Speaker 5>What all right? There? You are?

2169
01:50:18.079 --> 01:50:22.680
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, And that sequence ends with them sitting in

2170
01:50:22.720 --> 01:50:26.439
<v Speaker 3>somebody else's house looking at three dudes tied up in

2171
01:50:26.520 --> 01:50:30.159
<v Speaker 3>a bed and there and they're smoking a joint and

2172
01:50:30.239 --> 01:50:33.119
<v Speaker 3>just like looking really cool with their guns and squinty

2173
01:50:33.199 --> 01:50:37.279
<v Speaker 3>eyes and looking hard in a music video. I don't

2174
01:50:37.319 --> 01:50:38.920
<v Speaker 3>know what to make of that sequence, but it's kind

2175
01:50:38.920 --> 01:50:41.039
<v Speaker 3>of it's kind of haunting, like the way it was

2176
01:50:41.079 --> 01:50:45.279
<v Speaker 3>shot in the camera angles and it's done cinematically really

2177
01:50:45.319 --> 01:50:50.479
<v Speaker 3>well with this really corny Britney Spears song. Yeah, but

2178
01:50:50.520 --> 01:50:52.439
<v Speaker 3>there's something that was kind of like haunting about it.

2179
01:50:53.920 --> 01:50:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's it's the fulfillment of her line at the beginning,

2180
01:50:57.039 --> 01:50:58.840
<v Speaker 2>you gotta be don't be scared of nothing. You got

2181
01:50:58.920 --> 01:51:00.479
<v Speaker 2>to act like you in a movie act like you're

2182
01:51:00.479 --> 01:51:03.159
<v Speaker 2>in a video game. You've got to be hard and

2183
01:51:03.199 --> 01:51:04.359
<v Speaker 2>then here it is.

2184
01:51:04.399 --> 01:51:06.680
<v Speaker 3>Right right, So, I mean it's it's funny. It's like,

2185
01:51:06.720 --> 01:51:09.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, the whole millennial world, what they aspire to,

2186
01:51:09.960 --> 01:51:12.800
<v Speaker 3>what we've been taught, uh since we were little kids

2187
01:51:13.199 --> 01:51:18.600
<v Speaker 3>to look forward to, is just you know, material possessions, money, guns, drugs,

2188
01:51:18.600 --> 01:51:19.119
<v Speaker 3>and hoes.

2189
01:51:20.239 --> 01:51:23.039
<v Speaker 2>And the irony, of course, is that it's not really real.

2190
01:51:23.119 --> 01:51:27.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the story is over the top. It's it's

2191
01:51:27.119 --> 01:51:30.600
<v Speaker 2>over the top in the same way as rap videos

2192
01:51:30.600 --> 01:51:34.520
<v Speaker 2>are over the top. You know, they're they're egregiously over

2193
01:51:34.560 --> 01:51:40.279
<v Speaker 2>the top right there, my allergies. I'm not snorting coked.

2194
01:51:40.279 --> 01:51:41.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing those spring Breakers style.

2195
01:51:42.239 --> 01:51:45.199
<v Speaker 3>You're not hanging out with a riff raff over there South.

2196
01:51:44.960 --> 01:51:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Floorda uh pepple mint tint, my pepple mint tent.

2197
01:51:50.560 --> 01:51:54.239
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, Yeah, so the movie itself is over the top.

2198
01:51:56.560 --> 01:51:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I think the the ending is. And it's interesting that

2199
01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:02.920
<v Speaker 2>it's Gucci Mane. It's it's a over the top rapper

2200
01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:09.960
<v Speaker 2>who is the lead gangster who is callously, coldly just

2201
01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:13.600
<v Speaker 2>assassinated at the end. You know, we've seen this in Wrapped,

2202
01:52:13.800 --> 01:52:15.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, to a large degree of many rappers do

2203
01:52:15.720 --> 01:52:17.119
<v Speaker 2>get assassinated.

2204
01:52:16.720 --> 01:52:18.359
<v Speaker 3>Well, they hype them up, right, So they hype up

2205
01:52:18.439 --> 01:52:20.560
<v Speaker 3>James Franco and then they go to strip clubs and stuff.

2206
01:52:20.600 --> 01:52:23.119
<v Speaker 3>They do all the corny rap video ship and then

2207
01:52:23.159 --> 01:52:25.239
<v Speaker 3>you finally convince him you got to go kill this guy.

2208
01:52:25.279 --> 01:52:27.359
<v Speaker 2>You got to kill your you gotta kill Gucci Mane.

2209
01:52:27.439 --> 01:52:30.479
<v Speaker 2>And the irony there is James Franco is dead right away,

2210
01:52:30.640 --> 01:52:32.880
<v Speaker 2>like he gets shot right when they get off, right

2211
01:52:32.920 --> 01:52:35.840
<v Speaker 2>when they as soon as they're walking onto the plank

2212
01:52:36.039 --> 01:52:39.760
<v Speaker 2>of Gucci Mane's.

2213
01:52:39.680 --> 01:52:40.920
<v Speaker 3>They're on this Neon bridge.

2214
01:52:41.640 --> 01:52:43.199
<v Speaker 2>They pull up to his boat dock and they get

2215
01:52:43.199 --> 01:52:44.960
<v Speaker 2>as soon as he steps out, Jane Franks got shot

2216
01:52:44.960 --> 01:52:45.359
<v Speaker 2>in the head.

2217
01:52:45.600 --> 01:52:47.319
<v Speaker 3>He's down, yeah, And then they're on this like big

2218
01:52:47.439 --> 01:52:50.920
<v Speaker 3>Neon bridge and James Franco gets shot. Do they turn

2219
01:52:50.960 --> 01:52:52.640
<v Speaker 3>around and look or do they just keep running?

2220
01:52:52.800 --> 01:52:55.479
<v Speaker 2>Like they just keep running. They give him a kiss

2221
01:52:55.520 --> 01:52:57.880
<v Speaker 2>when they're coming out, but they just keep going. Take

2222
01:52:57.920 --> 01:53:01.000
<v Speaker 2>They take down all the Gucci Mane's guards, and they just.

2223
01:53:01.039 --> 01:53:03.239
<v Speaker 3>They don't even look. They just play the guns around

2224
01:53:03.520 --> 01:53:06.600
<v Speaker 3>and then the guys everyone falls, right, all these dudes fall.

2225
01:53:06.960 --> 01:53:09.479
<v Speaker 3>They break into Gucci Man's room Gucci Mane's room and

2226
01:53:09.520 --> 01:53:11.359
<v Speaker 3>he's there with his two he's got.

2227
01:53:11.239 --> 01:53:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Like he's in his hot tub and he's got two

2228
01:53:13.640 --> 01:53:17.000
<v Speaker 2>hoes in the shower he's watching. Yeah, and uh, they

2229
01:53:17.119 --> 01:53:22.279
<v Speaker 2>just and it's over. They run out, give James Franco

2230
01:53:22.319 --> 01:53:25.880
<v Speaker 2>a kiss and head out and the film. The film

2231
01:53:25.920 --> 01:53:29.960
<v Speaker 2>closes with the film closes with the two uh most

2232
01:53:30.119 --> 01:53:34.600
<v Speaker 2>wicked predators driving Gucci Mane's Maserati or whatever it was.

2233
01:53:35.199 --> 01:53:39.760
<v Speaker 3>So the the two Disney princesses raised on the pop culture.

2234
01:53:40.119 --> 01:53:42.600
<v Speaker 3>The only things they consume in this entire film. It

2235
01:53:42.640 --> 01:53:45.279
<v Speaker 3>never shows them eating any real food. They're just smoking weed,

2236
01:53:45.399 --> 01:53:45.960
<v Speaker 3>doing coke.

2237
01:53:46.119 --> 01:53:47.439
<v Speaker 2>It's just it's just drugs.

2238
01:53:47.600 --> 01:53:49.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and they ate fruit loops one time.

2239
01:53:50.000 --> 01:53:51.039
<v Speaker 4>That's I noticed that.

2240
01:53:51.520 --> 01:53:53.439
<v Speaker 3>One time they consume fruit loops. But then they're you know,

2241
01:53:53.439 --> 01:53:55.840
<v Speaker 3>they're blowing weed, smoking each other's mouth or just getting

2242
01:53:56.319 --> 01:54:01.079
<v Speaker 3>uh fucked up the whole movie. And then did you

2243
01:54:01.640 --> 01:54:05.159
<v Speaker 3>they also in the last scene when they're leaving, they're

2244
01:54:05.199 --> 01:54:07.560
<v Speaker 3>talking to their parents on their cell phones.

2245
01:54:08.119 --> 01:54:10.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and they're talking about how they want to

2246
01:54:10.119 --> 01:54:13.560
<v Speaker 2>be better and which is all bullshit. Yeah, it's all lies.

2247
01:54:13.880 --> 01:54:15.399
<v Speaker 4>Like I just I can't wait to come home.

2248
01:54:15.479 --> 01:54:16.680
<v Speaker 3>I've learned so much here.

2249
01:54:16.720 --> 01:54:18.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like, I wants to be a good girl now.

2250
01:54:18.960 --> 01:54:21.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's the most spiritual place I've ever been in

2251
01:54:21.760 --> 01:54:22.319
<v Speaker 6>my life.

2252
01:54:22.399 --> 01:54:25.199
<v Speaker 3>And stuff like saying these really corny things that are

2253
01:54:25.279 --> 01:54:28.439
<v Speaker 3>so juxtaposed to what the actions that they're taking are,

2254
01:54:30.319 --> 01:54:33.159
<v Speaker 3>and it's it's it's like horrific. You're seeing these girls

2255
01:54:33.199 --> 01:54:34.840
<v Speaker 3>and they're they're talking to their parents on the phone.

2256
01:54:34.840 --> 01:54:37.359
<v Speaker 3>The people who are funding their whole operation have no

2257
01:54:37.520 --> 01:54:40.960
<v Speaker 3>idea how demented and destroyed they are. They go and

2258
01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:43.000
<v Speaker 3>they you know, they kill all the black characters in

2259
01:54:43.039 --> 01:54:46.319
<v Speaker 3>the film, and these two little pampered chicks go back

2260
01:54:46.319 --> 01:54:49.239
<v Speaker 3>to their dorm room with the maserati from Gucci Maine

2261
01:54:49.439 --> 01:54:52.319
<v Speaker 3>and and they're just they're they're fine with it. They

2262
01:54:52.319 --> 01:54:54.479
<v Speaker 3>don't look guilty at all. They're not freaked out. It's

2263
01:54:54.600 --> 01:54:56.279
<v Speaker 3>just here's what we are.

2264
01:54:57.800 --> 01:55:02.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the total moral abandoned, no no compunction, no sense

2265
01:55:02.399 --> 01:55:06.520
<v Speaker 2>of guilt, and the complete double thing, the ability in

2266
01:55:06.640 --> 01:55:10.319
<v Speaker 2>their own minds to call home say that they're good

2267
01:55:10.359 --> 01:55:12.199
<v Speaker 2>girls and they want to do much better. They want

2268
01:55:12.199 --> 01:55:14.319
<v Speaker 2>to get back to being a good girl the way

2269
01:55:14.359 --> 01:55:18.159
<v Speaker 2>they used to be. And then they murder a bunch

2270
01:55:18.199 --> 01:55:21.560
<v Speaker 2>of people and have no guilt about it and don't

2271
01:55:21.560 --> 01:55:25.680
<v Speaker 2>even care, right, they're just like continuing on. I think

2272
01:55:25.760 --> 01:55:31.399
<v Speaker 2>speaks to that's his portrayal of the dangers and degeneracy

2273
01:55:31.439 --> 01:55:34.319
<v Speaker 2>of the millennials, just like Kids was a portrayal of

2274
01:55:34.359 --> 01:55:38.359
<v Speaker 2>the dangerous and degeneracy of my generation gen X or

2275
01:55:38.399 --> 01:55:41.760
<v Speaker 2>whatever it's. It's it's very parallel to Kids. It's almost

2276
01:55:41.880 --> 01:55:45.840
<v Speaker 2>like the same type of film. Kids is about, you know,

2277
01:55:45.920 --> 01:55:48.880
<v Speaker 2>this group of friends that that have you know, total

2278
01:55:49.319 --> 01:55:54.720
<v Speaker 2>no moral compass, no no compunction. And then one of them,

2279
01:55:54.800 --> 01:55:58.079
<v Speaker 2>even if I recalled, isn't it he gets off basically

2280
01:55:58.159 --> 01:55:59.760
<v Speaker 2>on spreading aids. Isn't that The point is? Like he

2281
01:55:59.760 --> 01:56:02.159
<v Speaker 2>does even care that he has age. He's gonna spread.

2282
01:56:03.239 --> 01:56:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Where he I think, No, he doesn't know, but he

2283
01:56:05.760 --> 01:56:07.079
<v Speaker 3>doesn't want to know, right.

2284
01:56:07.359 --> 01:56:09.039
<v Speaker 2>That's right, he doesn't want to know. He's just just

2285
01:56:09.279 --> 01:56:09.840
<v Speaker 2>just who cares?

2286
01:56:09.960 --> 01:56:12.279
<v Speaker 3>Kelly? Right, that was his name was Kelly, Kelly exactly.

2287
01:56:12.319 --> 01:56:14.600
<v Speaker 3>And then Casper is the other guy, and Casper just

2288
01:56:14.720 --> 01:56:17.479
<v Speaker 3>finding out at the end, like he learns, right, doesn't

2289
01:56:17.520 --> 01:56:21.920
<v Speaker 3>he learn? Someone tells him and then he wakes up.

2290
01:56:21.800 --> 01:56:24.119
<v Speaker 2>And he goes it. Doesn't he go ahead and screw

2291
01:56:24.199 --> 01:56:25.199
<v Speaker 2>that girl? Anyway, that's what.

2292
01:56:25.319 --> 01:56:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what he does. He actually he doesn't care.

2293
01:56:28.000 --> 01:56:30.319
<v Speaker 3>He's always talking about I don't use no condom man,

2294
01:56:30.479 --> 01:56:33.439
<v Speaker 3>Like he's just like I'm sick with at Yo. They're

2295
01:56:33.439 --> 01:56:36.199
<v Speaker 3>all just you know, skateboarding around and there's steel beer

2296
01:56:36.279 --> 01:56:37.720
<v Speaker 3>and ship and I think the last scene of that

2297
01:56:37.800 --> 01:56:40.960
<v Speaker 3>film is him waking up and saying, what the fuck happened?

2298
01:56:41.359 --> 01:56:46.640
<v Speaker 3>And after just this night of infecting somebody with with

2299
01:56:46.920 --> 01:56:50.640
<v Speaker 3>HIV or no, he would have gotten HIV, right.

2300
01:56:52.079 --> 01:56:54.600
<v Speaker 2>It's something like that. It's been I haven't seen it

2301
01:56:54.720 --> 01:56:55.359
<v Speaker 2>since it came out.

2302
01:56:55.520 --> 01:56:56.920
<v Speaker 3>That's another horror movie.

2303
01:56:57.119 --> 01:57:00.319
<v Speaker 2>It's actually a horror and so so is that. It's

2304
01:57:00.359 --> 01:57:03.159
<v Speaker 2>just two different generations of of you know, how they

2305
01:57:04.119 --> 01:57:09.960
<v Speaker 2>how they were corrupted by pop culture, drugs, degeneracy, uh,

2306
01:57:10.800 --> 01:57:15.640
<v Speaker 2>temptation essentially. Yeah, And in that regard, yes, it is

2307
01:57:16.079 --> 01:57:18.439
<v Speaker 2>a telling film. I just don't it's kind of like

2308
01:57:18.520 --> 01:57:22.920
<v Speaker 2>the same. It's the ending of Under the Silver Lake, Like,

2309
01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:25.159
<v Speaker 2>what exactly does he mean by this ending? Does he

2310
01:57:25.239 --> 01:57:27.239
<v Speaker 2>mean that there's no hope for that generation, that they're

2311
01:57:27.359 --> 01:57:32.319
<v Speaker 2>just basically abandoned to moral nihilism or or what? How

2312
01:57:32.359 --> 01:57:34.840
<v Speaker 2>do you how do you read that ending for shrewd breakers.

2313
01:57:36.279 --> 01:57:39.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just pulled up the last shot. So the

2314
01:57:39.279 --> 01:57:42.319
<v Speaker 3>last shot, uh, well, they're in the car, and then

2315
01:57:42.319 --> 01:57:44.760
<v Speaker 3>the last shot is James Franco's dead body, the cameras

2316
01:57:44.880 --> 01:57:47.720
<v Speaker 3>upside down for some reason, the angles upside down. They

2317
01:57:47.760 --> 01:57:50.600
<v Speaker 3>kiss him with their fake pink ski mask on that

2318
01:57:50.720 --> 01:57:55.159
<v Speaker 3>has a unicorn on their on their third a and

2319
01:57:55.239 --> 01:57:58.039
<v Speaker 3>then they walk off in their bikinis across a neon bridge.

2320
01:57:59.279 --> 01:58:01.840
<v Speaker 3>That's the last uh, I think. I think basically what

2321
01:58:01.920 --> 01:58:06.319
<v Speaker 3>he's saying is that the driving force. Well, first of all,

2322
01:58:06.359 --> 01:58:08.880
<v Speaker 3>it's like James Franco, Gucci May and all these hard

2323
01:58:08.920 --> 01:58:12.000
<v Speaker 3>ass gangsters are not the real demons in the film.

2324
01:58:12.079 --> 01:58:14.640
<v Speaker 3>These two girls are actually literal demons. And there's a

2325
01:58:14.680 --> 01:58:16.680
<v Speaker 3>reference to it, which we forgot to talk about earlier,

2326
01:58:16.720 --> 01:58:19.279
<v Speaker 3>when Faith is talking to her friends and they're like,

2327
01:58:19.479 --> 01:58:22.439
<v Speaker 3>you gotta watch out for them girls. They got demon blood.

2328
01:58:22.920 --> 01:58:27.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's right. That the the the redneck chicks in

2329
01:58:27.479 --> 01:58:29.840
<v Speaker 2>her hometown. They're like, don't go down to Florida with them.

2330
01:58:29.960 --> 01:58:31.000
<v Speaker 2>They got demons in them.

2331
01:58:31.399 --> 01:58:32.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm anna pray for you.

2332
01:58:32.439 --> 01:58:39.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm all pray real hard. So they kill their own,

2333
01:58:39.359 --> 01:58:41.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, this guy that comes to save them they

2334
01:58:41.239 --> 01:58:45.640
<v Speaker 3>basically their whole thing is about baiting James Franco into it,

2335
01:58:46.199 --> 01:58:48.960
<v Speaker 3>taking all his possessions, taking his life, destroying all the

2336
01:58:49.000 --> 01:58:51.319
<v Speaker 3>lives around them. So I think it's basically just saying

2337
01:58:51.399 --> 01:58:56.760
<v Speaker 3>that the driving force behind, like the whole pop culture, degenerosity, destruction.

2338
01:58:58.680 --> 01:59:01.560
<v Speaker 3>He's showing that it it permeates through the little girls,

2339
01:59:01.880 --> 01:59:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Like it's not the hardcore gangsters that are destroying America,

2340
01:59:05.439 --> 01:59:07.960
<v Speaker 3>it's these little girls that are consuming the pop culture.

2341
01:59:08.239 --> 01:59:12.600
<v Speaker 3>And really what they're influenced by is the pop culture imagery,

2342
01:59:13.159 --> 01:59:16.640
<v Speaker 3>is the serial box map, just like What's his Face

2343
01:59:17.039 --> 01:59:20.920
<v Speaker 3>Andrew Garfield and the other film. So that's what drives

2344
01:59:20.960 --> 01:59:23.159
<v Speaker 3>their behavior. So I think ultimately it's about the demonic

2345
01:59:23.239 --> 01:59:26.119
<v Speaker 3>and spiritual nature of pop culture and what it's meant

2346
01:59:26.199 --> 01:59:32.720
<v Speaker 3>to do, And it's meant to commercialize, commoditize, and ultimately

2347
01:59:32.840 --> 01:59:39.159
<v Speaker 3>cannibalize all these other little subcultures and spit out people

2348
01:59:39.279 --> 01:59:40.000
<v Speaker 3>as a product.

2349
01:59:41.000 --> 01:59:43.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, instead of scripture as a map, instead of the

2350
01:59:43.399 --> 01:59:46.279
<v Speaker 2>Bible as a map, tradition, heritage that we've had as

2351
01:59:46.359 --> 01:59:49.800
<v Speaker 2>these maps. Now your map is something that your mind

2352
01:59:49.880 --> 01:59:52.920
<v Speaker 2>creates out of pop culture, whether it's a Zelda map

2353
01:59:53.039 --> 01:59:55.760
<v Speaker 2>or whether it's you know, a video game quest or

2354
01:59:55.800 --> 01:59:59.880
<v Speaker 2>whether it's the quest to become immortal through partying in

2355
02:00:00.079 --> 02:00:03.680
<v Speaker 2>and spring break you know locales, or to become a

2356
02:00:03.840 --> 02:00:07.079
<v Speaker 2>rapper and you know, ascend them to the the stardom

2357
02:00:07.159 --> 02:00:10.920
<v Speaker 2>of rapper nonsense, you know, it's all it's all fake.

2358
02:00:11.119 --> 02:00:16.880
<v Speaker 2>It's all built on break faull have that's what. Yeah,

2359
02:00:16.920 --> 02:00:19.680
<v Speaker 2>that comes up a lot in the film too, and uh,

2360
02:00:20.279 --> 02:00:22.279
<v Speaker 2>Alien says that three or four times at one point

2361
02:00:22.479 --> 02:00:25.319
<v Speaker 2>spry right fine right ruh.

2362
02:00:25.560 --> 02:00:27.279
<v Speaker 3>And then the girls, I think one of the last

2363
02:00:27.319 --> 02:00:30.159
<v Speaker 3>lines that they say might be spring Break forever bitches.

2364
02:00:30.840 --> 02:00:32.800
<v Speaker 3>It sounds so corny when they say it, right, It's like,

2365
02:00:33.520 --> 02:00:37.239
<v Speaker 3>but that's how they Yeah, they live in like they

2366
02:00:37.319 --> 02:00:40.399
<v Speaker 3>speak in tweets, they speak in Facebook, because even when

2367
02:00:40.399 --> 02:00:43.720
<v Speaker 3>they're talking to their mom, it's like this false you know,

2368
02:00:43.760 --> 02:00:45.720
<v Speaker 3>their voice sounds a little different. It sounds really corny.

2369
02:00:45.760 --> 02:00:48.520
<v Speaker 3>It sounds forced, it sounds fake. And that's intentional, right,

2370
02:00:48.560 --> 02:00:50.439
<v Speaker 3>he could have gotten good performances out of them and

2371
02:00:50.479 --> 02:00:52.399
<v Speaker 3>say those things like they mean it, but it's meant

2372
02:00:52.439 --> 02:00:54.600
<v Speaker 3>to sound false. It's meant to sound like there's three

2373
02:00:54.720 --> 02:00:58.760
<v Speaker 3>layers of bullshit in between the characters and their actions.

2374
02:01:00.279 --> 02:01:03.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so lying to others in line to yourself. That's

2375
02:01:03.319 --> 02:01:05.119
<v Speaker 2>another theme there, yeah.

2376
02:01:05.560 --> 02:01:08.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, And it's kind of spiritual deception too, right,

2377
02:01:08.359 --> 02:01:10.760
<v Speaker 3>where it's like the audience thinks that Alien is the

2378
02:01:11.359 --> 02:01:14.479
<v Speaker 3>devil character, right, you think Alien's this, Oh he's the devil,

2379
02:01:14.560 --> 02:01:18.039
<v Speaker 3>He's Satan. But it really turns out that these little

2380
02:01:18.199 --> 02:01:22.079
<v Speaker 3>eighteen year old girls fed pop culture, raised.

2381
02:01:21.800 --> 02:01:25.439
<v Speaker 2>On you know, fruit, are more wicked than Alien. Yeah yeah, right,

2382
02:01:25.680 --> 02:01:27.720
<v Speaker 2>al And they had a completely they had a completely

2383
02:01:27.760 --> 02:01:31.920
<v Speaker 2>different upbringing. You know, Alien his upbringing, unless he's all

2384
02:01:31.960 --> 02:01:34.279
<v Speaker 2>making it up, I mean seems to be he really

2385
02:01:34.359 --> 02:01:36.439
<v Speaker 2>did grow up on the streets and he really was,

2386
02:01:36.600 --> 02:01:38.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, taught the game by Gucci Man and all

2387
02:01:38.560 --> 02:01:41.159
<v Speaker 2>this stuff. That all seems to be really the case.

2388
02:01:41.880 --> 02:01:44.479
<v Speaker 2>And these girls are sheltered. They're from this small town,

2389
02:01:45.199 --> 02:01:47.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're just going to some community college or whatever.

2390
02:01:48.119 --> 02:01:50.279
<v Speaker 2>They're ready to get out, and they the irony is

2391
02:01:50.319 --> 02:01:53.960
<v Speaker 2>that they have been downloaded with the pop culture and

2392
02:01:54.079 --> 02:01:58.039
<v Speaker 2>have it's produced a more wicked character than Alien, who

2393
02:01:58.079 --> 02:02:00.359
<v Speaker 2>actually did grow up on the streets. Yeah.

2394
02:02:00.399 --> 02:02:03.640
<v Speaker 3>They're more destructive, more violent, more dangerous, and more evil.

2395
02:02:04.560 --> 02:02:06.279
<v Speaker 3>And it's funny. Yeah, and you're right, they go to

2396
02:02:07.079 --> 02:02:10.760
<v Speaker 3>spring Break to consume this like as an experience, right,

2397
02:02:10.840 --> 02:02:13.359
<v Speaker 3>So they they see people like Gucci Maine, these dudes

2398
02:02:13.399 --> 02:02:15.319
<v Speaker 3>that are really living these lives in the hood, and

2399
02:02:15.680 --> 02:02:19.199
<v Speaker 3>you know James Franco's character, they just they don't care

2400
02:02:19.199 --> 02:02:21.119
<v Speaker 3>about really connecting with these people or anything. It's just

2401
02:02:21.119 --> 02:02:21.560
<v Speaker 3>about it now.

2402
02:02:21.720 --> 02:02:24.680
<v Speaker 2>They see them as extras in their rap video. M h.

2403
02:02:25.199 --> 02:02:27.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And they steal their car in the end and

2404
02:02:27.399 --> 02:02:32.119
<v Speaker 3>driving with their guns and all that, and it's people.

2405
02:02:32.960 --> 02:02:34.439
<v Speaker 3>When you watch the uh, I think a lot of

2406
02:02:34.479 --> 02:02:36.800
<v Speaker 3>people probably said, oh, it's so what a weird movie?

2407
02:02:36.880 --> 02:02:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Why is it so corny? In the end, they just

2408
02:02:38.840 --> 02:02:40.560
<v Speaker 3>they don't get shot at all. The girls are just

2409
02:02:40.640 --> 02:02:43.439
<v Speaker 3>running around waving guns around and everyone falls and it's

2410
02:02:43.479 --> 02:02:47.279
<v Speaker 3>just it's so unrealistic. But that that's the reality that

2411
02:02:47.319 --> 02:02:50.439
<v Speaker 3>they're given. They're given total false reality.

2412
02:02:50.079 --> 02:02:52.720
<v Speaker 2>To Yeah, they're chasing they're chasing a phantasm, they're chasing

2413
02:02:52.720 --> 02:02:55.079
<v Speaker 2>an illusion. And that would be another common theme amongst

2414
02:02:55.119 --> 02:02:58.720
<v Speaker 2>both of these movies is chasing down something that's not

2415
02:02:58.840 --> 02:03:02.159
<v Speaker 2>going to fulfill you. That's that's illusory. So now if

2416
02:03:02.159 --> 02:03:03.880
<v Speaker 2>you read it in that way, I think you can

2417
02:03:03.960 --> 02:03:07.279
<v Speaker 2>see it as as a positive assessment there.

2418
02:03:08.359 --> 02:03:10.119
<v Speaker 3>So what do you think Harmony Kurran. Do you think

2419
02:03:10.119 --> 02:03:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Harmony Kuran's trying to try to wake up the millennials

2420
02:03:12.920 --> 02:03:15.000
<v Speaker 3>or do you think he's just like satanically rubbing their

2421
02:03:15.039 --> 02:03:16.920
<v Speaker 3>face and their ship and saying, look what you did.

2422
02:03:19.000 --> 02:03:21.840
<v Speaker 2>It could be a mixed message there. I mean, I've

2423
02:03:21.920 --> 02:03:28.079
<v Speaker 2>never talked to him, but I think he's he's probably

2424
02:03:28.119 --> 02:03:29.760
<v Speaker 2>trying to do a bunch of different things at once.

2425
02:03:29.800 --> 02:03:32.079
<v Speaker 2>He probably wants to, on the one hand, have an interesting,

2426
02:03:33.199 --> 02:03:36.199
<v Speaker 2>meaningful message, but he's also got to please you know,

2427
02:03:36.319 --> 02:03:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Disney or whoever funds the films. But he's also got

2428
02:03:38.800 --> 02:03:42.439
<v Speaker 2>to you know, he's got to try to skate between

2429
02:03:42.920 --> 02:03:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Sola and Charybdis. So, you know, it's similar to any

2430
02:03:46.399 --> 02:03:49.680
<v Speaker 2>anybody who has a big name, you know, a bunch

2431
02:03:49.720 --> 02:03:51.720
<v Speaker 2>of stars in the film. It's it's hard to figure

2432
02:03:51.760 --> 02:03:56.279
<v Speaker 2>out what their motivations are. But yeah, I don't, I

2433
02:03:56.319 --> 02:03:58.279
<v Speaker 2>don't know. It's just I have to look and see

2434
02:03:58.279 --> 02:03:59.880
<v Speaker 2>what some some of what he says in interviews.

2435
02:04:00.039 --> 02:04:03.039
<v Speaker 3>Probably, But yeah, I remember when I first saw the movie,

2436
02:04:03.079 --> 02:04:04.600
<v Speaker 3>I did look at some of that and look at

2437
02:04:04.640 --> 02:04:07.960
<v Speaker 3>some of the promotional material. It was Yeah, what I

2438
02:04:08.079 --> 02:04:12.239
<v Speaker 3>remember is he was going for well, I mean, he

2439
02:04:12.319 --> 02:04:14.359
<v Speaker 3>didn't really say exactly what he was doing, but he

2440
02:04:14.600 --> 02:04:19.439
<v Speaker 3>seems like a very intelligent guy, very very very intelligent,

2441
02:04:19.520 --> 02:04:21.680
<v Speaker 3>knew exactly the aesthetic and stuff that he wanted, and

2442
02:04:21.800 --> 02:04:25.560
<v Speaker 3>he sought out this cinematographer the same have you seen

2443
02:04:25.640 --> 02:04:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Into the Void, horrible terrible horror film. That movie is freaky.

2444
02:04:30.520 --> 02:04:33.920
<v Speaker 3>Also the cinematographer that did that did this movie. So

2445
02:04:33.960 --> 02:04:35.039
<v Speaker 3>I think that's why you see a lot of the

2446
02:04:35.079 --> 02:04:39.680
<v Speaker 3>same colors and stuff like that. What was interesting about

2447
02:04:40.560 --> 02:04:44.600
<v Speaker 3>like the promotional stuff. They tried to promote this too

2448
02:04:45.840 --> 02:04:51.359
<v Speaker 3>millennial kids and teenagers as hot, sex, drugs, rock and roll,

2449
02:04:51.399 --> 02:04:56.720
<v Speaker 3>spring break movie. And the reaction was that everyone who

2450
02:04:56.760 --> 02:04:58.920
<v Speaker 3>saw the movie hated it. Right, they thought it was

2451
02:04:58.960 --> 02:05:01.760
<v Speaker 3>they thought they were going to see pop culture like, oh,

2452
02:05:01.840 --> 02:05:04.920
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be this cool movie with boobies, and they

2453
02:05:05.079 --> 02:05:07.880
<v Speaker 3>went and it was just horrific. Yeah, you know, it

2454
02:05:08.000 --> 02:05:11.880
<v Speaker 3>was this very this very very terrible movie, intentionally corny,

2455
02:05:11.960 --> 02:05:17.079
<v Speaker 3>intentionally strange, and and I think the response critically was

2456
02:05:17.159 --> 02:05:20.560
<v Speaker 3>people hated it. Once said that this is a terrible movie,

2457
02:05:20.960 --> 02:05:24.199
<v Speaker 3>don't go see it, like hashtag spring Breakers sucks, stuff

2458
02:05:24.239 --> 02:05:27.159
<v Speaker 3>like that. So I think that was maybe his intention,

2459
02:05:27.560 --> 02:05:28.600
<v Speaker 3>like kind of trying.

2460
02:05:28.399 --> 02:05:30.640
<v Speaker 2>To think so that makes sense, Yeah.

2461
02:05:30.439 --> 02:05:33.159
<v Speaker 3>Because he knew commercially how it would be. He doesn't

2462
02:05:33.199 --> 02:05:35.319
<v Speaker 3>have control over like the trailers and this and that,

2463
02:05:35.439 --> 02:05:39.399
<v Speaker 3>and he probably figured how it would be marketed. And yeah,

2464
02:05:39.439 --> 02:05:41.439
<v Speaker 3>it must it must have been an interesting process making

2465
02:05:41.520 --> 02:05:47.680
<v Speaker 3>this film. But but definitely yeah, you know, very very gaudy, right,

2466
02:05:47.800 --> 02:05:49.600
<v Speaker 3>like very uh tacky.

2467
02:05:49.760 --> 02:05:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

2468
02:05:50.079 --> 02:05:52.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And the sex scenes are like gross, right, anytime

2469
02:05:52.800 --> 02:05:55.079
<v Speaker 3>that there's some sexuality or kissing or something, it's like

2470
02:05:55.720 --> 02:06:00.760
<v Speaker 3>over tongue, like really really gross. Like human contact in

2471
02:06:00.800 --> 02:06:04.640
<v Speaker 3>the film is portrayed as violent almost, like all the

2472
02:06:04.760 --> 02:06:09.760
<v Speaker 3>sex is it feels violent, and the violence is made sexy,

2473
02:06:10.920 --> 02:06:13.600
<v Speaker 3>which is kind of I guess that's the how they

2474
02:06:13.640 --> 02:06:14.800
<v Speaker 3>do it in pop culture these days.

2475
02:06:14.920 --> 02:06:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like there's no understanding of a difference between like

2476
02:06:17.960 --> 02:06:22.880
<v Speaker 2>eroticism or genuine seduction or something like that and just

2477
02:06:23.119 --> 02:06:25.840
<v Speaker 2>really gross porn like it like the whole generation was

2478
02:06:25.880 --> 02:06:28.199
<v Speaker 2>over pornographized.

2479
02:06:27.560 --> 02:06:27.720
<v Speaker 5>You know.

2480
02:06:28.159 --> 02:06:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you know what was interesting. I know you've

2481
02:06:33.039 --> 02:06:36.279
<v Speaker 3>done some stuff on the Broni's and the weird subcultures

2482
02:06:36.319 --> 02:06:39.319
<v Speaker 3>and stuff. They they're watching the only film like on

2483
02:06:39.359 --> 02:06:42.279
<v Speaker 3>their TVs. They're watching My Little Pony, and I think

2484
02:06:42.399 --> 02:06:43.720
<v Speaker 3>care Bears, And.

2485
02:06:44.279 --> 02:06:46.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I didn't notice the care Bears. I saw that

2486
02:06:46.560 --> 02:06:48.359
<v Speaker 2>my little Pony stuff. Yeah, the brony crop.

2487
02:06:48.399 --> 02:06:49.880
<v Speaker 3>I might be wrong about care Bears, but I saw

2488
02:06:50.039 --> 02:06:53.720
<v Speaker 3>My Little Pony. And then Kimbo Slice Street Fights on YouTube.

2489
02:06:55.800 --> 02:06:58.239
<v Speaker 3>It's like in the background, it's for some reason watching

2490
02:06:58.279 --> 02:07:00.880
<v Speaker 3>the Kimbo Slice beat the shit out one in a backyard.

2491
02:07:01.520 --> 02:07:04.720
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, really really weird movie. I actually I don't

2492
02:07:04.720 --> 02:07:06.680
<v Speaker 3>know what do you Which one did you enjoy? More

2493
02:07:07.479 --> 02:07:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Silver lak Ers spring Breakers?

2494
02:07:09.439 --> 02:07:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, you've You've pulled up some points in spring Breakers

2495
02:07:13.640 --> 02:07:17.319
<v Speaker 2>that I miss so I'm rethinking some of the elements

2496
02:07:17.359 --> 02:07:19.000
<v Speaker 2>of it that I missed. That I that I didn't

2497
02:07:19.119 --> 02:07:21.199
<v Speaker 2>catch that first because I've only seen it once. Yeah,

2498
02:07:21.920 --> 02:07:23.439
<v Speaker 2>I like Under the Silver like a little bit better,

2499
02:07:23.520 --> 02:07:25.760
<v Speaker 2>just because of the depth and the twin peaks and

2500
02:07:25.800 --> 02:07:28.600
<v Speaker 2>old Hollywood references. That's and I kind of feel like

2501
02:07:28.640 --> 02:07:31.319
<v Speaker 2>an Andrew Garfield type of character. Not that I'm a

2502
02:07:31.479 --> 02:07:34.479
<v Speaker 2>listless millennial, but I'm right on the edge of you.

2503
02:07:34.479 --> 02:07:36.880
<v Speaker 3>Know, gen z and millennial and you're really into older

2504
02:07:36.920 --> 02:07:38.079
<v Speaker 3>women like grannies.

2505
02:07:38.760 --> 02:07:43.279
<v Speaker 2>I live with a naked hippie, a naked boomer hippie.

2506
02:07:43.319 --> 02:07:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Now and I like to ten birds. There's twenty bird

2507
02:07:47.920 --> 02:07:53.680
<v Speaker 2>cages shitting, bird shitting everywhere. Now, Yeah, I like that.

2508
02:07:53.800 --> 02:07:57.920
<v Speaker 2>It was you know, he's basically decoding Hollywood and he

2509
02:07:58.039 --> 02:08:01.720
<v Speaker 2>doesn't know how to process it. And it's an ambiguous ending.

2510
02:08:02.199 --> 02:08:06.279
<v Speaker 2>But you know, the synchronistic you know, connections and the

2511
02:08:06.359 --> 02:08:10.279
<v Speaker 2>weird stuff behind the pop culture. It's all true. You know,

2512
02:08:10.399 --> 02:08:12.279
<v Speaker 2>what we're gonna do with that is a different question,

2513
02:08:12.359 --> 02:08:14.159
<v Speaker 2>but it's it's all there. There's no question that the

2514
02:08:14.199 --> 02:08:16.520
<v Speaker 2>movie makes it clear that it is true. You know,

2515
02:08:16.640 --> 02:08:19.079
<v Speaker 2>he kind of gives up. Is that the right response?

2516
02:08:19.159 --> 02:08:21.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but but it was fun. We'll have

2517
02:08:21.880 --> 02:08:23.199
<v Speaker 2>to do another one of these. We'll pick out a

2518
02:08:23.239 --> 02:08:25.039
<v Speaker 2>couple more movies. I'm gonna have to go here pretty soon.

2519
02:08:25.199 --> 02:08:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I gotta get out of here too. I'm

2520
02:08:27.920 --> 02:08:29.840
<v Speaker 3>sitting down too long. My back hurts.

2521
02:08:30.479 --> 02:08:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

2522
02:08:31.199 --> 02:08:32.560
<v Speaker 3>Cool man, Hey, that that was fun.

2523
02:08:32.600 --> 02:08:32.920
<v Speaker 2>I like this.

2524
02:08:33.159 --> 02:08:36.880
<v Speaker 3>It's I've wanted to do movie reviews at some point,

2525
02:08:36.960 --> 02:08:38.479
<v Speaker 3>but it's so it's hard to do it.

2526
02:08:38.640 --> 02:08:39.079
<v Speaker 2>On your own.

2527
02:08:39.079 --> 02:08:40.439
<v Speaker 3>We got to you got a little siskeel and.

2528
02:08:40.439 --> 02:08:42.439
<v Speaker 2>Either Yeah, it's better when there's two people and and

2529
02:08:42.600 --> 02:08:45.039
<v Speaker 2>you you've you noticed and pick up things I missed.

2530
02:08:45.119 --> 02:08:47.600
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's always good to have two to have

2531
02:08:47.680 --> 02:08:49.680
<v Speaker 2>two eyes on something, four eyes on something.

2532
02:08:49.920 --> 02:08:52.039
<v Speaker 3>All right, So I got a suggestion for the next one.

2533
02:08:52.079 --> 02:08:53.840
<v Speaker 3>You probably already know because they're bugging you about this

2534
02:08:53.920 --> 02:08:57.720
<v Speaker 3>one already. So it ties in with the same theme

2535
02:08:58.279 --> 02:09:01.399
<v Speaker 3>with you know, the following the White Rabbit down the.

2536
02:09:01.960 --> 02:09:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Whole three episodes into Utopia.

2537
02:09:04.359 --> 02:09:07.880
<v Speaker 3>That's what you're gonna say, exactly, so awesome. So we'll

2538
02:09:07.920 --> 02:09:10.600
<v Speaker 3>do Utopia next once you finish that series. I think

2539
02:09:10.680 --> 02:09:15.039
<v Speaker 3>I think there's twelve episodes. Ye, and it's yeah, it's

2540
02:09:15.079 --> 02:09:18.479
<v Speaker 3>easy to watch because there's a captivating story. But we'll

2541
02:09:18.520 --> 02:09:19.920
<v Speaker 3>do that next. So you guys can find more at

2542
02:09:19.920 --> 02:09:22.640
<v Speaker 3>a Jay's Analysis dot com. I gotta say, if you're

2543
02:09:22.680 --> 02:09:26.560
<v Speaker 3>not already subscribe to Jay's Analysis dot com, you gotta

2544
02:09:26.600 --> 02:09:29.159
<v Speaker 3>become a subscriber. He not only does he do a

2545
02:09:29.199 --> 02:09:31.720
<v Speaker 3>lot of you know, pop culture analysis and stuff to uh.

2546
02:09:31.840 --> 02:09:34.439
<v Speaker 4>To bring the kids in, to bring the the the views.

2547
02:09:34.439 --> 02:09:36.159
<v Speaker 3>You gotta get the clicks, but you know what, he

2548
02:09:36.439 --> 02:09:41.880
<v Speaker 3>does some of the most incredible theological analysis of modern

2549
02:09:42.159 --> 02:09:44.760
<v Speaker 3>culture and as well as just he breaks down some

2550
02:09:44.800 --> 02:09:47.119
<v Speaker 3>of the old church father's books, and uh, he does

2551
02:09:47.159 --> 02:09:50.600
<v Speaker 3>a globalist book series that's really good. His website and

2552
02:09:50.720 --> 02:09:53.319
<v Speaker 3>his YouTube channel. I mean he's he's giving you like

2553
02:09:53.520 --> 02:09:59.159
<v Speaker 3>university level theology lectures for free on YouTube almost every

2554
02:09:59.199 --> 02:10:01.600
<v Speaker 3>other day, and I can't even keep up with it.

2555
02:10:01.680 --> 02:10:04.039
<v Speaker 3>I sometimes have to listen to his lectures twice to

2556
02:10:04.399 --> 02:10:07.359
<v Speaker 3>to really understand what, uh the deep truth that he's

2557
02:10:07.560 --> 02:10:10.359
<v Speaker 3>getting to there. So make sure to check out Yeah,

2558
02:10:10.479 --> 02:10:13.920
<v Speaker 3>check out Jasonnalysis dot com and check out his got

2559
02:10:14.039 --> 02:10:16.880
<v Speaker 3>to subscribe to his channel as well, and then JJ By.

2560
02:10:16.840 --> 02:10:20.520
<v Speaker 2>The way, if you're listening on my channel or at

2561
02:10:21.239 --> 02:10:24.880
<v Speaker 2>my audio podcast series or whatever, if you're on iTunes

2562
02:10:24.920 --> 02:10:27.159
<v Speaker 2>and you're hearing this, definitely check out Primal Edge hell too.

2563
02:10:27.199 --> 02:10:29.880
<v Speaker 2>I need to promote your stuff. I mean, uh, since

2564
02:10:29.960 --> 02:10:32.600
<v Speaker 2>we've been doing shows, I've been going back. I've been

2565
02:10:32.680 --> 02:10:34.720
<v Speaker 2>watching your episodes that you do, and you've been cranking

2566
02:10:34.760 --> 02:10:36.840
<v Speaker 2>out interviews. I listened to the interview you did with

2567
02:10:36.960 --> 02:10:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Bobby that was really fascinating where you got into his

2568
02:10:40.119 --> 02:10:42.880
<v Speaker 2>history with you know, his views on veganism, how he's

2569
02:10:43.000 --> 02:10:47.119
<v Speaker 2>evolved on that issue. I've listened to the interview you

2570
02:10:47.159 --> 02:10:49.479
<v Speaker 2>did with Carnival. So I've been I've been catching up

2571
02:10:49.520 --> 02:10:50.960
<v Speaker 2>on your stuff and there's a lot of good stuff

2572
02:10:51.000 --> 02:10:51.600
<v Speaker 2>you're doing there too.

2573
02:10:51.800 --> 02:10:54.199
<v Speaker 3>Oh thanks man, Thanks, Yeah, it's it's fun.

2574
02:10:54.279 --> 02:10:54.399
<v Speaker 2>You know.

2575
02:10:54.439 --> 02:10:57.640
<v Speaker 3>We've got been through a lot of different incarnations of

2576
02:10:57.720 --> 02:11:01.880
<v Speaker 3>the channel and the years, but I like the direction

2577
02:11:02.000 --> 02:11:03.680
<v Speaker 3>we've been going lately. It's more fun. When I first

2578
02:11:03.720 --> 02:11:06.399
<v Speaker 3>started out, the first few years, it was basically just like, hey,

2579
02:11:06.880 --> 02:11:09.199
<v Speaker 3>it was basically just me on my porch, grab the camera.

2580
02:11:09.680 --> 02:11:11.199
<v Speaker 3>Usually don't have a shirt on because I live in

2581
02:11:11.239 --> 02:11:14.680
<v Speaker 3>Ecuador and it's always nice and hot. So most of

2582
02:11:14.680 --> 02:11:16.720
<v Speaker 3>my old videos are just me talking about nutrition and

2583
02:11:16.800 --> 02:11:19.680
<v Speaker 3>food and diet and stuff. But I've been enjoying the

2584
02:11:19.800 --> 02:11:21.600
<v Speaker 3>live streaming thing ever since this came out.

2585
02:11:22.520 --> 02:11:23.039
<v Speaker 2>It's a blast.

2586
02:11:23.159 --> 02:11:25.359
<v Speaker 3>It's really good. I'm really glad. I hopefully we can

2587
02:11:25.439 --> 02:11:27.159
<v Speaker 3>keep live streaming and we don't get kicked off at

2588
02:11:27.199 --> 02:11:31.560
<v Speaker 3>YouTube too soon. But yeah, we'll do this again. Maybe

2589
02:11:31.640 --> 02:11:35.159
<v Speaker 3>once you finish Utopia, we can review Utopia and talk

2590
02:11:35.159 --> 02:11:36.840
<v Speaker 3>about that, because that definitely ties in a lot with

2591
02:11:36.880 --> 02:11:40.319
<v Speaker 3>the nutrition stuff we talk about on this channel as well. Remember, guys,

2592
02:11:40.520 --> 02:11:40.800
<v Speaker 3>it's not.

2593
02:11:40.960 --> 02:11:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Just because Yeah, the third episode, now they're talking about

2594
02:11:44.039 --> 02:11:46.760
<v Speaker 2>the food company being involved in the conspiracy.

2595
02:11:46.359 --> 02:11:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Uh huh, yeah, and I think they even get a

2596
02:11:48.640 --> 02:11:51.159
<v Speaker 3>little bit deeper later on. They have some good shots

2597
02:11:51.199 --> 02:11:53.079
<v Speaker 3>of the corn fields when they're talking about that, right,

2598
02:11:53.399 --> 02:11:56.680
<v Speaker 3>they flashed through the corn fields. So yeah, Utopia, that

2599
02:11:56.840 --> 02:12:00.800
<v Speaker 3>was a series twenty thirteen and fourteen and in the

2600
02:12:01.000 --> 02:12:03.159
<v Speaker 3>UK that's what we're gonna talk about next. So if

2601
02:12:03.159 --> 02:12:06.159
<v Speaker 3>you guys haven't seen the Utopia series from Channel four UK,

2602
02:12:07.079 --> 02:12:09.880
<v Speaker 3>check that out. We'll do that and maybe next week we'll.

2603
02:12:09.760 --> 02:12:10.119
<v Speaker 2>Get to it.

2604
02:12:10.560 --> 02:12:12.640
<v Speaker 3>And if you have any other suggestions of movies we

2605
02:12:12.720 --> 02:12:17.319
<v Speaker 3>can do as ateric analysis of definitely definitely let us

2606
02:12:17.399 --> 02:12:19.840
<v Speaker 3>know we Oh, you know what, Jay, do you have

2607
02:12:19.920 --> 02:12:22.199
<v Speaker 3>time to answer this question? This is my friend Andrew Scarborough.

2608
02:12:22.560 --> 02:12:25.000
<v Speaker 3>He's a really cool Guy's so Andrew Scarborough. He's a

2609
02:12:25.119 --> 02:12:27.119
<v Speaker 3>cancer survivor. He had a brain tumor and he uses

2610
02:12:27.119 --> 02:12:30.760
<v Speaker 3>a ketogenic carnivore diet to keep from having seizures all

2611
02:12:30.760 --> 02:12:32.840
<v Speaker 3>the time and it works pretty dang well. He says,

2612
02:12:32.880 --> 02:12:36.680
<v Speaker 3>what do you think of the Daniel fast theologically and otherwise?

2613
02:12:39.479 --> 02:12:42.520
<v Speaker 2>I remember reading about this a long time ago. I'm

2614
02:12:42.560 --> 02:12:47.479
<v Speaker 2>sure there's nothing wrong with that. I would say that's

2615
02:12:47.520 --> 02:12:52.199
<v Speaker 2>a profitable thing. Probably. There you go, there you go.

2616
02:12:52.359 --> 02:12:54.279
<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, the book of Daniel is really interesting.

2617
02:12:54.800 --> 02:12:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

2618
02:12:56.279 --> 02:12:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Cool, So everybody, nice night, didn't you isn't Daniel your

2619
02:13:00.720 --> 02:13:01.760
<v Speaker 3>your patrons.

2620
02:13:01.439 --> 02:13:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Say it is. Yeah, I chose Daniel. Correct.

2621
02:13:04.199 --> 02:13:07.279
<v Speaker 3>Nice nice man. So you guys check out Utopia series.

2622
02:13:07.359 --> 02:13:09.399
<v Speaker 3>We'll do that one next. We'll talk about that one

2623
02:13:10.039 --> 02:13:14.840
<v Speaker 3>ties in with food social engineering, also media being used

2624
02:13:15.039 --> 02:13:19.000
<v Speaker 3>as you know, kind of leading people down certain paths

2625
02:13:19.079 --> 02:13:22.279
<v Speaker 3>of understanding. And I think you guys will like that chat.

2626
02:13:22.359 --> 02:13:25.039
<v Speaker 3>So we'll talk about that next one. And Jay, what

2627
02:13:25.159 --> 02:13:26.119
<v Speaker 3>else you got going on now?

2628
02:13:26.159 --> 02:13:26.279
<v Speaker 5>Man?

2629
02:13:26.319 --> 02:13:28.439
<v Speaker 3>You got anything new? You know you've got a new book, right,

2630
02:13:28.520 --> 02:13:29.239
<v Speaker 3>we'll up of the book.

2631
02:13:29.479 --> 02:13:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, you definitely. You can get signed copies of

2632
02:13:31.920 --> 02:13:34.159
<v Speaker 2>us Star Callwood two in my shop at Jason also,

2633
02:13:34.239 --> 02:13:37.920
<v Speaker 2>so you can get part one as well. Everybody's orders

2634
02:13:37.960 --> 02:13:41.520
<v Speaker 2>are out, so they're all caught up. Yours went out

2635
02:13:41.560 --> 02:13:42.479
<v Speaker 2>probably about a week ago.

2636
02:13:42.720 --> 02:13:44.279
<v Speaker 3>Brother got it. Yeah, he's going to bring it to me.

2637
02:13:44.319 --> 02:13:46.680
<v Speaker 2>I'll have it on next one okay. Yeah cool. So

2638
02:13:47.079 --> 02:13:48.960
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, everybody's just in the mail. Sorry that it

2639
02:13:49.039 --> 02:13:51.960
<v Speaker 2>took longer. I ran out really quick the first batch,

2640
02:13:52.079 --> 02:13:54.279
<v Speaker 2>so they were sold in three or four days, so

2641
02:13:54.319 --> 02:13:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I had to wait until I came back to Florida

2642
02:13:57.600 --> 02:13:59.479
<v Speaker 2>and got a whole new batch of books. But anyway,

2643
02:13:59.520 --> 02:14:03.079
<v Speaker 2>so they're all it's all good now, all pretty much

2644
02:14:03.119 --> 02:14:07.479
<v Speaker 2>five star reviews. So far, I think nine people have

2645
02:14:07.600 --> 02:14:11.319
<v Speaker 2>reviewed it in four point five four point five out

2646
02:14:11.359 --> 02:14:11.840
<v Speaker 2>of five.

2647
02:14:12.520 --> 02:14:16.399
<v Speaker 3>So don't get it Amazon though, right, you don't want people.

2648
02:14:16.479 --> 02:14:18.159
<v Speaker 2>Don't pay Jeff Bezos. If you want to get it,

2649
02:14:18.199 --> 02:14:19.279
<v Speaker 2>get it for me. It's a little bit more, but

2650
02:14:19.319 --> 02:14:23.680
<v Speaker 2>I'll sign it. And next coming up, I'm about a

2651
02:14:23.760 --> 02:14:26.800
<v Speaker 2>third of a way into video making and the style

2652
02:14:26.880 --> 02:14:28.800
<v Speaker 2>of the Eye of the Double video that since that

2653
02:14:28.960 --> 02:14:31.720
<v Speaker 2>video did pretty good, this one's going to be about

2654
02:14:32.840 --> 02:14:37.119
<v Speaker 2>a recap of like the pop culture ceremonies that we've

2655
02:14:37.159 --> 02:14:40.439
<v Speaker 2>been given. So going back to Tim Leary, going back

2656
02:14:40.479 --> 02:14:44.880
<v Speaker 2>to the sixties, looking at big mass ceremonies, you know,

2657
02:14:45.000 --> 02:14:50.119
<v Speaker 2>coming from that period all the way up to Super Bowls, Olympics.

2658
02:14:50.840 --> 02:14:52.920
<v Speaker 2>You know this, these degenerate.

2659
02:14:53.880 --> 02:14:56.359
<v Speaker 3>Ceremonies that that tuttle ceremony.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's sweet, Theton Gutenberg Turnle, the Swedish Tunnel. Definitely, that

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<v Speaker 2>one's in there because we forget about these ceremonies, like

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<v Speaker 2>we because they just crank them out and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this year, it's oh, what's this year's Super Bowl garbage about?

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<v Speaker 2>What's this year's VMA is about. I wanted to recap

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<v Speaker 2>these because I've never really covered those in depth, give

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<v Speaker 2>my analysis of them, but having in you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>a thirty forty minute mini documentary style. So I'm about

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<v Speaker 2>a third of the way that it should be out

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<v Speaker 2>in the next few days.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's awesome, dude. Yeah, It's interesting how these ceremonies

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<v Speaker 3>and these mass events people don't even understand kind of

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<v Speaker 3>the cultural roots and then you know the spiritual roots

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<v Speaker 3>of these these things and why they're done. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you get thousands of people in one area

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<v Speaker 3>chanting something like these these are powerful effects on human consciousness.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, that'll be good, man. I look forward to

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<v Speaker 3>that one. So guys, make sure to subscribe to Jay's channel.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll pin in the pin comment on this video will

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<v Speaker 3>be Jay's website and his channel, so check them out

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<v Speaker 3>there and check out his book Esthoteric Hollywood two. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure it's great. I haven't seen it yet. I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>gotten my copy yet, but I'm excited to read it.

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<v Speaker 3>So thanks Jay.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, man, God bless have a good day

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<v Speaker 5>Alright,
