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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think

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<v Speaker 2>when we are.

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<v Speaker 1>General off our show, idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>The kids are playing or tilt. The countries are screwing

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<v Speaker 2>it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Gold Play Intermurals, Brother, gold Play Intermurals.

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<v Speaker 2>They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>Now? Here's Nick Coffee. All right, ladies and gentlemen, you

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<v Speaker 2>made it. It's Friday, at the end of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>As we get you set for the weekend. Here coffee

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<v Speaker 2>and Company, fueled by Thornton's on a Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>That's me Nick Coffee the voice you hear, meaning that's

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<v Speaker 2>me the company man, mister John all on alongside today

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<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna have some fun. We're gonna mix it up. Fridays.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the day where I just I don't know why, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>because we're close to the weekend, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think most people in their line of where I guess

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<v Speaker 2>it depends on what you do. But when you're in

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<v Speaker 2>an office setting like you work in the Cubicle Life.

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<v Speaker 2>Friday afternoon, three o'clock. I mean you kind of feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you're you're near the finish line, because you are,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you work a regular nine to five

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<v Speaker 2>Monday through Friday. So like Friday's for me on this show,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like the same thing. Like I try

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<v Speaker 2>to check the pulse of the millions of you that

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<v Speaker 2>listen every day, and we appreciate all of you, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping you can sense sarcasm there, but nonetheless I

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<v Speaker 2>feel you, right, we're in the same position, right, we're

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<v Speaker 2>are you know? So I just don't take this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>as serious as I typically do, not that I really

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<v Speaker 2>take it that serious anyway. I mean, it is a job.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a dream to be able to do this every day.

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<v Speaker 2>But on Friday, I just there's no uh, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>guardrails John as far as like where we go. And

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<v Speaker 2>I really like that about Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>I love when the guardrails are gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So like Monday through Money through Thursday, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there at times aren't guard brills and we just end

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<v Speaker 2>up in places we never thought we would. But at

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<v Speaker 2>times Monday through Thursday, when that happens, I feel like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's regroup here, Let's get this thing back on track.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we are a very sophisticated and professional sports talk

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<v Speaker 2>radio program that talks about nothing but the hard hitting

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<v Speaker 2>stories in sports. We provide analysis, stats, facts, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>just that's it. I mean, kind of that's what we're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to do, I think, but it's not really what

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<v Speaker 2>we do. But on Friday, like it doesn't even register that,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's what we're supposed to be, right, Like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just like, who cares, it's Friday. We're almost to the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the week. I mean, we actually are at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the week and it's almost over, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's a good thing. And another week that goes by,

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<v Speaker 2>another day that goes by, that means we're getting closer

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<v Speaker 2>and closer to college football and that makes me very happy. However, today,

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<v Speaker 2>this story, it'd be a lie to say this is

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<v Speaker 2>like a huge story within the world of college basketball

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<v Speaker 2>because most people probably don't care or don't even know.

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<v Speaker 2>But Louisville is fresh off of a trip to the

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<v Speaker 2>Bahamas where they went spent about five days in the Bahamas,

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<v Speaker 2>played two games. I'm not sure how many fans made

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<v Speaker 2>the trip, but obviously the program, a lot of staffers

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<v Speaker 2>from the athletic department, a lot of donors, boosters. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure we're along for the trip, and those things happen

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. I mean, it's beneficial to do those

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<v Speaker 2>as much as you can because it gives you extra

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<v Speaker 2>practice in the summer and you guys know the drill, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it was super important for Pat Kelsey and his

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<v Speaker 2>group to do that because it's a brand new team

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<v Speaker 2>with an entirely brand new roster. But there's a story

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<v Speaker 2>out there about George Mason, a not not a I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>George Mason is probably a person you may know, somebody

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<v Speaker 2>named George Mason. I feel like there was somebody in

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<v Speaker 2>my life at some point I knew named George Mason.

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<v Speaker 2>But George Mason is also a university and they they

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<v Speaker 2>if you, if you understand the reference here, then then

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<v Speaker 2>you know, then you'll get it. If not, I'll explain

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<v Speaker 2>they got they got fire festivaled out of a Bahamas trip.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we'll get into the specific Trulli Donovan is

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<v Speaker 2>doing a good job of leaking out some details that

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<v Speaker 2>he is finding out sort of in real time here.

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<v Speaker 2>But they had a Bahamas foreign tour trip scheduled this week,

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<v Speaker 2>and they showed up to the airport and the organizer,

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<v Speaker 2>the company that you know puts these things together, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>book flights, didn't book hotels, and it was not real.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are boosters and donors of George Mason and

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<v Speaker 2>other university staffers that weren't going to travel with the

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<v Speaker 2>team that made other travel arrangements. Of course, I assume

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<v Speaker 2>on company dime, they're already there in the Bahamas thinking

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<v Speaker 2>they're there to watch their basketball team have a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of exhibition games, and it's not real. And I have

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<v Speaker 2>so many questions as far as how like how did

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<v Speaker 2>you get to the point where you show up to

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<v Speaker 2>the airport ready for this trip? Like I'm just I'm

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<v Speaker 2>envisioning all of the behind the scenes stuff that goes on, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you've got your content team, they've got the camera out,

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<v Speaker 2>they're filming guys getting off the bus at the airport,

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<v Speaker 2>walking up to you know, check in, just all the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that you do for marketing, and they then they

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<v Speaker 2>realize like none of is real. Like the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>owns this company that put this together like that does

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<v Speaker 2>events kind of like the Billy guy who did fire festival,

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<v Speaker 2>if you know what that is. He's taken full responsibility,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's also kind of like not by blaming it

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<v Speaker 2>on other people. However, there's got to be more to

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<v Speaker 2>this story, Like there has to be more because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how you like, how do you not have

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<v Speaker 2>flight itinerary? How do you not have like full details.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there are people who have full time jobs

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<v Speaker 2>at these universities, probably making a lot of money that

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<v Speaker 2>that's their job to make sure logistics are worked out,

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<v Speaker 2>and they show up at the airport today to leave

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<v Speaker 2>and like find out that like, no, we have no wreck,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no flight for you guys, like this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is this is nonsense. So anyways, I'm gonna be following

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<v Speaker 2>along throughout the rest of the afternoon or maybe we

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<v Speaker 2>get more details down. I'm not gonna make it be

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<v Speaker 2>a huge part of the show, but as as the

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<v Speaker 2>show started today, there's more and more not behind the

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<v Speaker 2>scenes details coming out, but like it's starting to get

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<v Speaker 2>more coverage to be a national story because it's just

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<v Speaker 2>not something you see very often. So that is that

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<v Speaker 2>actually distracted me as we get the show started, because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I mean that just fascinates me how something like

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<v Speaker 2>that could happen. So anyways, some other things we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>into today. We've got to discuss once again another sign

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<v Speaker 2>that nobody respects the NC DOUBLEA. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's been quite clear for a while that the days

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<v Speaker 2>of just being worried about the NC DOUBLEA dropping the

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<v Speaker 2>hammer on you, potentially ruining your career if you're a coach,

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<v Speaker 2>by giving you a show cause or suspending you, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>putting the fear in you. Nobody's fearful of the NC

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<v Speaker 2>DOUBLEA anymore because Michigan has announced that they are going

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, while keep in mind they they're head coach

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<v Speaker 2>for head coach just got hammered by the NC DOUBLEA,

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<v Speaker 2>but not really right because he doesn't care and they're

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<v Speaker 2>still being investigated. They are any moment now awaiting the

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<v Speaker 2>notice of allegations in regards to the Connor Stallions cheating scandal.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet they announced today that Jim Harbaugh is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be their honorary captain for their opener, Like they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to parade him around, bring him out. Like, if

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<v Speaker 2>that's not double birds to the NC DOUBLEA, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what is. While they're being investigated for cheating while

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<v Speaker 2>they just won a national championship. Now it is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of weird because again the n is double A. I

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<v Speaker 2>say all the time, they're consistent, meaning like they're consistently

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<v Speaker 2>a mess and consistently delusional, not realizing that they're useless

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<v Speaker 2>and that you know, nobody actually respects them. But part

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<v Speaker 2>of their consistency in regards to just being ridiculous is that,

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<v Speaker 2>like they they're not consistent, if that makes any sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that sounds really confusing, But what I mean

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<v Speaker 2>is that they've already decided that regardless of what comes

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<v Speaker 2>of this Connor Stallions investigation and the notice of allegations,

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<v Speaker 2>any type of vacating a championship is off the table,

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<v Speaker 2>which is just stupid, Like why would it? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what are you doing here? Are you actually

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<v Speaker 2>going to be someone that is going to rule the

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<v Speaker 2>organization that you operate and hold people accountable or are

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<v Speaker 2>you just out here being useless? So maybe if they

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<v Speaker 2>knew they could potentially have their national championship vacated, one,

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<v Speaker 2>they probably wouldn't care, but also maybe they wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>as brazen here with the Jim Harball stuff. But did

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<v Speaker 2>again with college football, n STUABAA doesn't rule college football.

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<v Speaker 2>The college Football Playoff that Michigan just won last year,

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<v Speaker 2>that's an event. I mean, you could, I mean, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can claim you are national champions and

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<v Speaker 2>you justly are the national champion national champions if you

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<v Speaker 2>do win the fourteam playoff and have the season that

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan had last year. But the NAA doesn't name you

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<v Speaker 2>the national champion. It's an ESPN event, not even like

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<v Speaker 2>I think people know that, but I'm not sure people

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<v Speaker 2>keep that in mind, like that the n DOUAA did

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<v Speaker 2>not crown them the national champion by an event that

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<v Speaker 2>they put together. It's literally an ESPN like it's a bowlgame.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's literally made for TV event where the

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<v Speaker 2>college Football Playoff decides who gets to play, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they have a four team playoff and whoever wins we

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<v Speaker 2>claim as the national champion. And again I'm not discrediting

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<v Speaker 2>it as if it doesn't count, but it's not. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the INSTUABA doesn't even have the ability to vacate that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm though it's sure what the n STAA

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<v Speaker 2>has to do, but I'm telling you, I know it's

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<v Speaker 2>been a big topic this week, and it's really not

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<v Speaker 2>that interesting. It's not like something that's entertaining. It's not fun.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, we cover college sports around here more

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<v Speaker 2>than we cover anything for obvious reasons, given that we

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<v Speaker 2>are a huge college market, and I just, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I every day that passes, I start to think, like,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe eventually this thing's just gonna completely separate itself, because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the NAA just completely disappears, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be that separation from the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>NCAA members meeting schools they're gonna and there's way more

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<v Speaker 2>of the of those that don't make a ton of money,

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<v Speaker 2>that aren't in a lucrative business. But there's also this

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<v Speaker 2>other section that is power for football, Notre Dame included,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess you could throw in basketball as well

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<v Speaker 2>to where it is within the last few years absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>become professional sports. And it's right here in front of

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<v Speaker 2>our face. There's no handshake deals for money. It's quite

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<v Speaker 2>clear these guys are being paid a lot. Money is

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<v Speaker 2>needed to be raised. So like at some point somebody

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<v Speaker 2>within college athletics, I think, is gonna have to take

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<v Speaker 2>leadership or maybe not leadership, because maybe you're not the leader,

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<v Speaker 2>but somebody's just gonna have to be the first to

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<v Speaker 2>don't need them, We do not need the NCAA for anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And if there's one guess as far as who that

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<v Speaker 2>person may be, it's got to be Stanky, right, mister

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<v Speaker 2>Stanky Grex Sank, the SEC Commissioner, Like he's the one

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<v Speaker 2>that I feel like would have the stones the kahonas

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<v Speaker 2>We don't need the incident. The SEC is no longer

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<v Speaker 2>in any affiliation with the NCAA.

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<v Speaker 1>Do the Sankey leg.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean like something he'll do. I mean he

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<v Speaker 2>would he not be the one guy that would do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And you you keep mentioning if like the Power

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<v Speaker 1>Conference has decided to break off, it would be very annoying,

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<v Speaker 1>But it almost feels like it would be a given

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<v Speaker 2>The SEC wouldn't be in fair, it wouldn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But it feels like he would at least vouch for

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I can actually respect someone that would be

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<v Speaker 2>the one doing it, but at least have the initiative

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<v Speaker 2>to I guess, make the first move. But you can't

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<v Speaker 2>have because the conference is still going to exist. That's

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<v Speaker 2>how all the money's there, right, like the Big Ten

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<v Speaker 2>and the like. It wouldn't be a scenario to where

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<v Speaker 2>you just have one big league, no, because that's not

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<v Speaker 2>how the money. I mean it's and you've got different

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<v Speaker 2>TV deals and all that, with the Big Ten no

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<v Speaker 2>longer being in bed with ESPN or ABC. So what

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<v Speaker 2>you'd end up having to do is find and again

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<v Speaker 2>just thinking about it here, just picturing like a meeting

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<v Speaker 2>going on where they're discussing who's going to be the

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<v Speaker 2>overall leader of the power for Notre Dame included. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be the ultimate shaft measuring contest where nobody

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<v Speaker 2>would agree anybody that because you would have to find

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that you believe is objective and it would not

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's somebody out there that exists that could

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<v Speaker 2>do that, but like it would be I mean, think

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<v Speaker 2>about how difficult it was when they started fighting about

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<v Speaker 2>the college football playoff expansion, like just it was egos

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<v Speaker 2>getting in the way. So I mean, if you're n

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<v Speaker 2>real like the Michigan being the national champion of the

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<v Speaker 2>previous college football season and knowing that they just gave

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<v Speaker 2>their coach who left meaning the Nce double A, a

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<v Speaker 2>four year show cause and a one year suspension, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're still investigating Michigan for cheating during their national championship season.

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<v Speaker 2>If in fact, Harball comes back. They're creatively taking shots

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<v Speaker 2>and making fun of the nc DOUBLEA right in front

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<v Speaker 2>of everybody's face. And then this Connor Stallion's investigation concludes

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<v Speaker 2>and there's really no stiff punishment. How can the NCUBLEA

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<v Speaker 2>as an organization, How can Charlie Baker, I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>his name, How can he look himself in the mirror?

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<v Speaker 2>Is if he's got any sack I mean, because you're

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<v Speaker 2>just getting completely I mean dunked on and bullied, shoved

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<v Speaker 2>in a locker, swirlies, wedgies. What are some other things

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<v Speaker 2>that you do as a bully. I'm missing any.

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<v Speaker 1>Shove people and grab them by the collar and shove

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<v Speaker 1>them up against the locker or something you.

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<v Speaker 2>Show him in the locker in the locker. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that's what I said. It's that's part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, like I just I'm fascinated by it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not like, you know, I don't naa Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel that their punishment for Louisville was it

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<v Speaker 2>ever made any sense. And that's not to minimize what

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<v Speaker 2>happened and act like it was. You know, Louisville's victims

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<v Speaker 2>in this, It was just stupid how they I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>their own insane way of determining impermissible benefits is to

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<v Speaker 2>put a monetary value on it. Okay, well, you know

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<v Speaker 2>you had this flight that was four hundred dollars, you

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<v Speaker 2>know you sit for a half, Well, with Louisville, the

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<v Speaker 2>nature of what went on, you can't put a monetary

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<v Speaker 2>value on it. And in fact, I feel like you

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<v Speaker 2>nobody would pay for what would Katina Palells bringing into

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<v Speaker 2>Minority Hall for being honest with you and and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with all that said, like you can't put monetary value

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<v Speaker 2>on it. So they just decided that everybody who played

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<v Speaker 2>in those in that era, all of their games, all

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<v Speaker 2>their records and stuff just didn't happen, which is stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, I'm sure that's probably not an interesting thing

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<v Speaker 2>to a lot of people because the NAA is boring

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<v Speaker 2>as it is, but their death may be something that

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<v Speaker 2>interests a lot of people. Now. I guess there is

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<v Speaker 2>also the worry though, like what it would mean for

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else, like because without them, you got to think,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, things would be different. But let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>things have been so different in the last few years,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's gonna be even more different once in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>the schools have to start paying the players. Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>always kind of looked like professional sports with the big

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<v Speaker 2>time television deals and clearly, you know, millions of people

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<v Speaker 2>watching that kind of stuff, but now it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be in your face more than it's ever been. And

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<v Speaker 2>it just to me, how can you have your governing

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<v Speaker 2>organization at the top the n DOAA. This thing's moving fast, right,

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<v Speaker 2>big money already there with nil portal, you can basically

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<v Speaker 2>have free agency. Schools are going to be tasked to

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<v Speaker 2>pay up to twenty two million dollars a year. Like

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<v Speaker 2>that is what this is now, it is there's no

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<v Speaker 2>way around it, and it's and it's gonna be even

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<v Speaker 2>more in your face as the years go on. And

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<v Speaker 2>how can you have the governing body that is over

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<v Speaker 2>top of you? How can you have it to where

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<v Speaker 2>you know that they hate it, they're against it, they

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<v Speaker 2>try to fight it, they do everything they can to

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<v Speaker 2>stop all of it from happening. They live in an

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<v Speaker 2>archaic world where these guys really are just they're all

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<v Speaker 2>students who you know, are only like they're actually there

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<v Speaker 2>to just get an education. And oh wow, I picked

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<v Speaker 2>up a basketball, I'm pretty good at that. I might

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<v Speaker 2>I might try out for the team, I might get

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<v Speaker 2>a scholarship. Like that's the world they live in. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like they're so they're so opposite and they don't adjust

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<v Speaker 2>to what the new world of college athletics is. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>how can anybody within the world of college athletics at

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<v Speaker 2>the top wake up and act like this is normal?

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<v Speaker 2>The organization that governs you hates everything that is happening

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<v Speaker 2>and still tries to fight against it and get shut

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<v Speaker 2>down by federal judges. Right, Hey, you can't. Hey, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't do that. You can like again, earlier this week

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<v Speaker 2>they gave us the new NCAA Division I Manual for

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<v Speaker 2>the upcoming year twenty twenty four to twenty five, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they laid out their nil bylaw stating that

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<v Speaker 2>you cannot use an IL to like induce, whereas the

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<v Speaker 2>federal judge has already come out and said beforehand, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not allowed to tell them they can't do that, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just crazy to me. Also, I don't have any

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<v Speaker 2>strong thoughts on Team USA. I mean, obviously they were

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<v Speaker 2>in a nail bier yesterday. They were getting killed and

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<v Speaker 2>then had a great comeback, and I'll think, I, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not to dramatize it like it was some magical moment

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<v Speaker 2>that I'll have forever, but I do think I'll remember

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<v Speaker 2>that for a long time, just because it's something I

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<v Speaker 2>never have witnessed before, and it's probably something I may

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<v Speaker 2>never witness again. Where you see Team USA and men's basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>something we dominate, getting handled down nearly twenty points, looking

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<v Speaker 2>as if it's going to be over and then they

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<v Speaker 2>rally from behind, you would think everybody's on the edge

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<v Speaker 2>of their seat rooting for America despite your hate for

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron James or Kevin Durant or Steve Kerr anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Joel Embiid. So you know, I actually thought that was

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<v Speaker 2>really cool yesterday, Like I think I'm gonna remember that

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time because it was an unexpected situation

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<v Speaker 2>to where you could sit back and like, are we

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get this? Like, you know, it's just because it's

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<v Speaker 2>great to be dominant, but it's also kind of boring

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<v Speaker 2>to be dominant, right because we know, we don't even

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<v Speaker 2>need to go to the Olympics to know that the

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<v Speaker 2>American the Americans have the best basketball in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>in the country, in the world, Like it's just a

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<v Speaker 2>known thing. So to see them against you know, up

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<v Speaker 2>against it and rally to come back, and legendary players

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<v Speaker 2>making big time plays like you would expect. Kevin Durant

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<v Speaker 2>was clutch, Steph Curry was sensational. Lebron James is sixty

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<v Speaker 2>years old with a gray beard out there doing things

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<v Speaker 2>that like nobody that's even half his age typically does,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it was amazing, but there is something odd about

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Kerr and his lineups. I'm not a huge fan

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<v Speaker 2>of Jason Tatum. I certainly don't like the Boston Celtics,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do think the criticism of Steve Kerr is legit,

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<v Speaker 2>and I do think that they've set Jason Tatum up

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<v Speaker 2>to be embarrassed. He showed up to represent his country.

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<v Speaker 2>He's fresh off in nash An NBA title, three time

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<v Speaker 2>first team All NBA selection. Nobody would tell you Jason

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<v Speaker 2>Tatum is not super talented and he can't get in

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<v Speaker 2>the game like that just doesn't make sense. And Steve

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<v Speaker 2>Kurz made it out to where it's just about lineups, rotations, combinations,

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<v Speaker 2>and I do think there's something to be said about that. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why whenever they got rid of Kawhi Leonard, they

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<v Speaker 2>went out and got Derek White. Derek White is your

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<v Speaker 2>absolute definition of the modern day role player. He'll do

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you need. He's good, he's effective, he'll make big

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<v Speaker 2>plays that help you win games. But he knows I'm

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<v Speaker 2>behind Jalen Brown and I'm behind Jason Tatum. I'm never

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be one, two, maybe even three. At times when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to like priority within that or within that,

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<v Speaker 2>within that system. So there's something to be said about,

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<v Speaker 2>like you can't just put five superstars on the floor

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<v Speaker 2>and think it's going to work. Right. Talent is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be on your side, but as far as how

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like as far as a system running things,

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<v Speaker 2>like you gotta have balance. But Jason Tatum, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's embarrassing to him, and I can't lie to you

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<v Speaker 2>and said that. I genuinely like feel sorry for him

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<v Speaker 2>because look at him. I mean, this guy just got

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<v Speaker 2>an insane deal. I mean he just is fresh off

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<v Speaker 2>the the NBA Finals where he helped Boston win another

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<v Speaker 2>ring like he I don't feel bad for him, but

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<v Speaker 2>had he known that, like he wasn't going to be

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<v Speaker 2>worthy of getting a minute from from Steve Kerr, he

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<v Speaker 2>might not. He might not have gone. And look, I

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<v Speaker 2>know there's some people thinking like, well, doesn't matter. You're

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<v Speaker 2>representing your country. You do whatever, like like we're at war,

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<v Speaker 2>you do whatever the leader asks of you. But like

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<v Speaker 2>he's wasting his time like he's he's and it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>embarrassing to him. I can't speak to the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>he's embarrassed because you know, he probably would never say that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't you know, I can't read his brain.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know him, I don't talk to him. But

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<v Speaker 2>that would be an embarrassing situation for a superstar player

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<v Speaker 2>who was just really the face of the NBA Finals

416
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<v Speaker 2>and now he's in the Olympics and he can't get

417
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<v Speaker 2>off the bench, and it'd be one thing if like,

418
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<v Speaker 2>let me an example, Rudy Gobert, he can't get off

419
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<v Speaker 2>the bench for France. He got benched, no longer starts

420
00:21:05.359 --> 00:21:07.279
<v Speaker 2>and I think he played four minutes in their last game.

421
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<v Speaker 2>That's a little odd knowing that he's like a multi

422
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<v Speaker 2>time NBA Defensive Player of the Year and he's playing

423
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<v Speaker 2>for a team that does not have that many NBA

424
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<v Speaker 2>guys on it in France. But he's also a very

425
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<v Speaker 2>rare player, like he has no offensive ability and he's

426
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<v Speaker 2>just a guy that protects the rim, block shots and

427
00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:26.720
<v Speaker 2>that's his impact. So at times you may not need that.

428
00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:29.000
<v Speaker 2>At times he could be a liability for you on

429
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<v Speaker 2>offense because he's so bad at that part of the game.

430
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<v Speaker 2>So that makes sense as to why he may not

431
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<v Speaker 2>be getting all the minutes. Face and Tatum is one

432
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<v Speaker 2>of the best players on the planet. And I don't

433
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<v Speaker 2>know why Steve Kerr would be like biased against Tatum.

434
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that he is, and I don't you know,

435
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<v Speaker 2>I don't have no reason to believe that, But him

436
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<v Speaker 2>not putting him in the game makes no sense at all,

437
00:21:50.960 --> 00:21:53.279
<v Speaker 2>and I think it's actually led to like Steve Kerr,

438
00:21:53.440 --> 00:21:56.359
<v Speaker 2>He's probably gonna end up winning the goal and good

439
00:21:56.359 --> 00:21:59.240
<v Speaker 2>for him. But like I've always said this, and I

440
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<v Speaker 2>know it sounds crazy because it just sounds crazy, but

441
00:22:04.519 --> 00:22:07.319
<v Speaker 2>I said it years ago, like when he first took

442
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<v Speaker 2>over in Golden State and they started winning. I'm not

443
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<v Speaker 2>sure we've ever seen anything from Steve Kerr that tells

444
00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:15.920
<v Speaker 2>us he's a great coach. Again, sounds crazy. How many

445
00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:17.759
<v Speaker 2>titles does the guy have? Right, Like he has been

446
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<v Speaker 2>the coach of a modern day dynasty that was they're

447
00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:25.319
<v Speaker 2>not a dynasty anymore, but whenever they were winning their

448
00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:28.559
<v Speaker 2>titles and then KD left and they still came back

449
00:22:28.599 --> 00:22:33.400
<v Speaker 2>and won another one with that trio Clay Steph and Draymond.

450
00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:36.680
<v Speaker 2>I hate the Warriors, but I respect them a lot,

451
00:22:36.759 --> 00:22:39.000
<v Speaker 2>and I think that really that made it to where

452
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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't just a flukey kind of thing, like they regrouped,

453
00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:44.160
<v Speaker 2>KD was gone and they still won another title. Like,

454
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Kerr was the coach of all that, but

455
00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:51.519
<v Speaker 2>he inherited all these guys and the GM who's now

456
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<v Speaker 2>doing analyst work, Bob Myers. He's the guy who put

457
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<v Speaker 2>the team together. Like Steve Kerr is a former player

458
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<v Speaker 2>who was was he doing broadcasting maybe yes, yeah, and

459
00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:03.480
<v Speaker 2>then he's showed up and started coaching, And like, you know,

460
00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:07.079
<v Speaker 2>like it sounds insane, and I say a lot of

461
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<v Speaker 2>things that sound insane, and I'm sure I'll say many

462
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<v Speaker 2>things in the next two and a half hours that

463
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<v Speaker 2>make me sound like an idiot. But what can stee

464
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<v Speaker 2>why I could win a title with that team? I mean,

465
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<v Speaker 2>the only thing I issue I would have was like,

466
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<v Speaker 2>you know, substitutions. You know what I'd be worried about.

467
00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Draymond wanted to punch me if I took him out

468
00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:26.759
<v Speaker 2>of the game, right, But like, also Steve Kerr, if

469
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<v Speaker 2>he's a good coach, he wouldn't allow Draymond to be Draymond,

470
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<v Speaker 2>Like that's not normal in any way. So like I've

471
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<v Speaker 2>always been kind of anti Steve Kerr because I feel

472
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<v Speaker 2>like Mark Jackson actually really got that that era rolling

473
00:23:38.839 --> 00:23:42.000
<v Speaker 2>in Golden State. So I mean, if he wins gold

474
00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:43.759
<v Speaker 2>and good for him and it'll be great for everybody.

475
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<v Speaker 2>But I actually think the way he's handled the roster

476
00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:49.039
<v Speaker 2>and the way they were getting blown out yesterday, like

477
00:23:49.079 --> 00:23:51.200
<v Speaker 2>it's made people kind of question, Okay, like that guy,

478
00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:53.720
<v Speaker 2>like go put go have him coach the Orlando Magic.

479
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<v Speaker 2>Let's go see what he would do with the Detroit Pistons.

480
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<v Speaker 2>All right, we got to get to our first break.

481
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<v Speaker 2>I'm just yapping, which I guess is kind of the job.

482
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<v Speaker 2>Something else we got to talk about to Deon Sanders

483
00:24:05.599 --> 00:24:10.000
<v Speaker 2>continuing to make a fool of himself. Eventually, Eventually, I

484
00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:12.480
<v Speaker 2>believe there'll be enough people that just realized this guy.

485
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, why are we even giving why are we

486
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<v Speaker 2>even giving Colorado the attention? It's a circus, all right,

487
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<v Speaker 2>stick around, it's a Friday, It's coffee and company. We're

488
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<v Speaker 2>phil about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

489
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<v Speaker 2>You know, over the many, the many different Olympics that

490
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<v Speaker 2>we've had in my lifetime, it seems as if there's

491
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<v Speaker 2>always an obscure sport that people discover or maybe they

492
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<v Speaker 2>knew it existed, but they never watched it, or maybe

493
00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:39.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, they didn't know it existed, and they're like,

494
00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:40.799
<v Speaker 2>what the heck is this? This is kind of cool.

495
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<v Speaker 2>I've never been able to share that feeling. I've never had.

496
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<v Speaker 2>There's just not just not to be a hater, it's

497
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<v Speaker 2>just there's not been a sport that I found during

498
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<v Speaker 2>Olympic coverage that you don't typically see, you know, on

499
00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:53.839
<v Speaker 2>ESPN on prime time that I'm like, oh, wow, this

500
00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:57.759
<v Speaker 2>is great. I want to watch this. However, this breakdance

501
00:24:57.799 --> 00:25:03.640
<v Speaker 2>and stuff is insane. I mean, it's it's gone viral

502
00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:06.400
<v Speaker 2>all over and I don't know how new it is

503
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<v Speaker 2>to the Olympics. But if you told me this was

504
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<v Speaker 2>a Saturday night live skit like watching what this like

505
00:25:13.880 --> 00:25:16.599
<v Speaker 2>what this is? I would believe you. But it's clearly not.

506
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<v Speaker 2>And it's like a real it's a real thing, and

507
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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I have so many questions as far as

508
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<v Speaker 2>like how you get into it, you know, how do

509
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<v Speaker 2>you be like how do you judge this? Right? Like

510
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<v Speaker 2>how do you know? I mean, everybody's got their own

511
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<v Speaker 2>preference as far as who's breakdancing moves are better than others, right, Like,

512
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<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe I come out and do some kind

513
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<v Speaker 2>of a you know, a slow erotic set with breakdancing,

514
00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:45.200
<v Speaker 2>and then John comes out. He's high energy, he's bouncing

515
00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:47.480
<v Speaker 2>around like you know, both can be great. It's just

516
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<v Speaker 2>a matter of preference.

517
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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm looking at it right now, and I

518
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<v Speaker 1>feel like the only way to judge this fairly would

519
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<v Speaker 1>be similarly to how you judged like the gymnastics routines,

520
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<v Speaker 1>Like how difficult it.

521
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<v Speaker 2>Might be execute something. Yes, I mean it's super I

522
00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:07.119
<v Speaker 2>mean you got to be super talented to do it.

523
00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:09.880
<v Speaker 1>And I am surprised this is an Olympic sport though.

524
00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Like break dancing, Like I honestly, you could do something

525
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<v Speaker 2>in front of me and tell me that it's break

526
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<v Speaker 2>dancing and it not, and I would just believe you.

527
00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:18.799
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't really know, like dancing to me is

528
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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be able to to determine which version of

529
00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:26.319
<v Speaker 2>dancing it is. But I have like I'm jealous of

530
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:28.480
<v Speaker 2>people who can dance. And I don't mean like just

531
00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:30.799
<v Speaker 2>break dancing Olympics. I many people who like literally can

532
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:35.759
<v Speaker 2>like just I mean they have rhythm that God gave them.

533
00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:39.559
<v Speaker 2>And you know, a lot of white people don't dance well.

534
00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:42.240
<v Speaker 2>But then there's some that are just like gifted, and

535
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<v Speaker 2>it's something I'm jealous of. I have a friend who

536
00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:48.119
<v Speaker 2>I grew up with, close friend of mine, love him dearly.

537
00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:51.160
<v Speaker 2>He now lives across the country in Seattle, and you know,

538
00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:54.119
<v Speaker 2>I miss him, but he like that was Have I

539
00:26:54.119 --> 00:26:55.799
<v Speaker 2>ever told you this story? Like I don't think so.

540
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<v Speaker 2>I have a friend who I grew up with, played

541
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<v Speaker 2>high school basketball with. I mean I played I played

542
00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:01.559
<v Speaker 2>sports with him from the time we were five years

543
00:27:01.599 --> 00:27:05.160
<v Speaker 2>old until we graduated high school. And one we were

544
00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:09.279
<v Speaker 2>getting towards the end of high school, he you know,

545
00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:11.799
<v Speaker 2>he realized he was a really good dancer, and he

546
00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:15.160
<v Speaker 2>ended up joining like a cheerleading team and was like

547
00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:17.160
<v Speaker 2>part of their corek uh, like a like a not

548
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:18.880
<v Speaker 2>a not a school cheerleading team, but like you know,

549
00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:21.039
<v Speaker 2>like a team that goes to competitions, like you know,

550
00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:23.880
<v Speaker 2>big deal, Like they fly every weekend at different places.

551
00:27:24.319 --> 00:27:26.640
<v Speaker 2>But he was mostly there as far as like the choreography,

552
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:28.400
<v Speaker 2>like he was that was his gift. Well, once we

553
00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:30.920
<v Speaker 2>got out of high school, he went away to school

554
00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:34.720
<v Speaker 2>at WKU and met other people that were like really

555
00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:37.640
<v Speaker 2>into the dancing world and culture and at that time.

556
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:39.480
<v Speaker 2>It was actually and I'm sure it still is really big.

557
00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:42.440
<v Speaker 2>But there was a show on MTV called America's Best

558
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:44.839
<v Speaker 2>Dance Crew. It was really popular. Randy Jackson did it,

559
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:47.400
<v Speaker 2>the guy who was the judge for for American Idol

560
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:50.720
<v Speaker 2>and his crew got on there on MTV and they

561
00:27:50.759 --> 00:27:52.640
<v Speaker 2>were They made it pretty deep. They didn't win it,

562
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:56.440
<v Speaker 2>but then he he he created a career for himself

563
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:58.640
<v Speaker 2>and a life for himself as a as a dancer,

564
00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:00.680
<v Speaker 2>like a hip hop dancer. He was. He toured with

565
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Chris Brown for six years. He was in I mean

566
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:05.039
<v Speaker 2>you can go in pretty Oh. It's cool as hell,

567
00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:09.839
<v Speaker 2>and he's super, super talented. But like I mean, I've

568
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:11.640
<v Speaker 2>known him my whole life, and like growing up, he

569
00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:13.720
<v Speaker 2>didn't dance around us, and we had no clue he

570
00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:15.880
<v Speaker 2>had this gift. It was just kind of wild. And then,

571
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:19.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, because he moved away, we just you know,

572
00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:21.039
<v Speaker 2>we thought we knew he was out there, you know,

573
00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:23.680
<v Speaker 2>trying to He lived in Atlanta, lived in LA and

574
00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:25.880
<v Speaker 2>then now he'd met his he met his now wife

575
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:27.960
<v Speaker 2>in LA and they live where she's from in Seattle.

576
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:30.440
<v Speaker 2>They've got two beautiful kids together, and he's no longer

577
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:32.599
<v Speaker 2>dancing he works for I believe, I believe it might

578
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:36.000
<v Speaker 2>work for eighteen t But anyways, you know, like it's

579
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:39.680
<v Speaker 2>just it it's crazy to see like people be able

580
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:41.200
<v Speaker 2>to do that, Like I can't. I can't relate in

581
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:43.799
<v Speaker 2>any way. And I'm sure there's so much training and

582
00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:45.519
<v Speaker 2>it's a craft that you have to put so much

583
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:48.440
<v Speaker 2>time and energy into, like anything else that you want

584
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:51.160
<v Speaker 2>to be great at. But I'm I'm sorry. I could.

585
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:52.880
<v Speaker 2>I could put in more work. I could put in

586
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:54.640
<v Speaker 2>double the work that some of these people put in,

587
00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:56.400
<v Speaker 2>And I know for a fact, I can't do that.

588
00:28:56.599 --> 00:28:58.720
<v Speaker 2>I can't. I can't. I can't spend on my head.

589
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:01.839
<v Speaker 2>I can't, you know, put my leg in front and

590
00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:04.519
<v Speaker 2>slide the other way. I mean, there's there's just crazy

591
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:06.359
<v Speaker 2>stuff out there that I that I can't relate to.

592
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:10.480
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I remember when it really hit me. We uh,

593
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:15.200
<v Speaker 2>we were my wife and I think we just had maya.

594
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:17.519
<v Speaker 2>This was years ago because it's been a while since

595
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:19.200
<v Speaker 2>he was with Chris Brown. But for about five six years,

596
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:21.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean he toured. I mean I remember he spent

597
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:24.279
<v Speaker 2>like three months in South in South Africa with something

598
00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:26.400
<v Speaker 2>they were doing, Like he traveled the world and you know,

599
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:30.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he had a blast. But I remember Chris

600
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Brown was performing on might have been I don't think

601
00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:38.039
<v Speaker 2>it was LENO, one of those kind of shows. Leno

602
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:39.319
<v Speaker 2>might not have been around anymore, but it was one

603
00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:42.119
<v Speaker 2>of those main shows that like you see and sure enough,

604
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:45.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, Chris Brown's performing, and there he is, there

605
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.359
<v Speaker 2>is there is there he is. He's right there next

606
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:51.440
<v Speaker 2>to him, and I just remember thinking like, holy crap, Like,

607
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:52.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, I knew he was doing his thing. I

608
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:54.279
<v Speaker 2>knew he was working with Chris Brown, but here we

609
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:56.480
<v Speaker 2>are looking at him on you know, ABC or whatever

610
00:29:56.519 --> 00:29:58.799
<v Speaker 2>it may be. So yeah, shout out to all the

611
00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:02.480
<v Speaker 2>breakdancers your talent. And I'm not someone that's gonna claim

612
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:05.039
<v Speaker 2>that it shouldn't be in the Olympics because it's a skill,

613
00:30:05.079 --> 00:30:07.720
<v Speaker 2>it's a talent, and this wouldn't come, this wouldn't even

614
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:10.079
<v Speaker 2>be on my radar of things we need to eliminate

615
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:13.599
<v Speaker 2>from the Olympics because it's actually highly entertaining and I

616
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:16.960
<v Speaker 2>get a lot of envy when when watching it. All right,

617
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:20.480
<v Speaker 2>So another story that I do think is notable. Something

618
00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:22.400
<v Speaker 2>that is I think if you're a Louisville fan, if

619
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:24.559
<v Speaker 2>you're worried about the future of the ACC. It's probably

620
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:26.400
<v Speaker 2>something that you have some interest in, but it's it's

621
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<v Speaker 2>kind of boring. It's legal stuff once again. But Ross

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<v Speaker 2>Ellinger of Yahoo Sports is reporting that Florida State and

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<v Speaker 2>the ACC are to begin mediation next week. And I mean,

624
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<v Speaker 2>there's no real way to know until I guess mediation

625
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<v Speaker 2>takes place. But this this, I mean the way this

626
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<v Speaker 2>write up reads, and I've read the majority of it

627
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<v Speaker 2>during the Breakthrough. I just saw it when I think

628
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<v Speaker 2>this story actually broke as soon yeah three oh seven,

629
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<v Speaker 2>as soon as the show started, so I haven't been

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<v Speaker 2>able to read read this piece in its entirety over

631
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<v Speaker 2>there a Yahoo Sports, But I mean, it sounds as

632
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<v Speaker 2>if like there could be a potential settlement to where

633
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:06.839
<v Speaker 2>the ACC does let Florida State leave but for a

634
00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:08.920
<v Speaker 2>specific amount of money, which I don't know why they

635
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:11.200
<v Speaker 2>would do that. And if you're Florida State, did you

636
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:13.480
<v Speaker 2>not get humbled, like maybe you don't believe what was

637
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:15.559
<v Speaker 2>said about you in that report that Bret mcmurfrey put

638
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:19.480
<v Speaker 2>out a few weeks ago. But what value does Florida

639
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:25.680
<v Speaker 2>State give the SEC. They're a bad partner because what

640
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:30.359
<v Speaker 2>they did is unprecedented, a lawsuit against a conference that

641
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:33.039
<v Speaker 2>you're a member of, and you did it out of spite.

642
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:35.920
<v Speaker 2>You did it as a sore loser. You blame the

643
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:39.839
<v Speaker 2>ACC on you not making the college football Playoff last year,

644
00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:42.240
<v Speaker 2>when in reality they had nothing to do with the ACC.

645
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:45.279
<v Speaker 2>It's unfortunate. There's really nobody to blame. It's just one

646
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:47.000
<v Speaker 2>of those things. You chalk it up to the game,

647
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:49.680
<v Speaker 2>as they say, your star quarterback got hurt, and everybody

648
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:52.400
<v Speaker 2>knew you were not a legitimate one of the four

649
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:54.720
<v Speaker 2>best teams in the country without Jordan Travis. That's why

650
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:57.319
<v Speaker 2>you got left out. It sucks. It's really not fair,

651
00:31:57.359 --> 00:31:58.599
<v Speaker 2>but you know what, a lot of things in life

652
00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:03.839
<v Speaker 2>aren't fair. But I'll read some of this from ross

653
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Ellinger's report. It says, while this is a significant step

654
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:09.759
<v Speaker 2>in the proceedings, the mediation phase and in person discussion

655
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:11.880
<v Speaker 2>between the two sides in front of a neutral mediator

656
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:14.759
<v Speaker 2>is an is an expected one and is not guaranteed

657
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:17.799
<v Speaker 2>to produce a settlement decision. The neutral mediator has chose,

658
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:21.599
<v Speaker 2>has been chosen, and the two sides, barring something unforeseen,

659
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:24.720
<v Speaker 2>will convene for the talks next week. Those with the

660
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:28.480
<v Speaker 2>knowledge of the discussions, tell y'ahoo sports. Officials at the

661
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:31.559
<v Speaker 2>ACC and at Florida State both declined to comment. Goes

662
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<v Speaker 2>on to say that the ACC and one of its

663
00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:35.200
<v Speaker 2>premier brands are locked in a legal fight. The Seminals

664
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<v Speaker 2>are attempting to exit the conference without paying both the

665
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:40.599
<v Speaker 2>exit fee and the cost of buying out its media rights,

666
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:43.519
<v Speaker 2>which it agreed years ago to grant the conference. The

667
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:46.480
<v Speaker 2>price tag of such an exit is estimated to be

668
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:51.680
<v Speaker 2>at more than five hundred million dollars, according to court records. So,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess we'll see what comes from this mediation.

670
00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:02.200
<v Speaker 2>If you're Florida State, do you really still feel as

671
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<v Speaker 2>if you are a victim here? And do you really

672
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<v Speaker 2>like I think there's layers to the Florida State side

673
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:12.319
<v Speaker 2>of it as far as cause the cat's already out

674
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:14.319
<v Speaker 2>of the bag. They filed a lawsuit, they fought this long,

675
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:16.759
<v Speaker 2>They've paid a lot of money, and you don't want

676
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:19.920
<v Speaker 2>to just you know quit and you know take the

677
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:23.640
<v Speaker 2>l and just you know, have to eat crow, I suppose,

678
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:26.960
<v Speaker 2>But then again, like, consider your options here. I think

679
00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:30.599
<v Speaker 2>the Big ten would be interested in adding Florida State,

680
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:34.200
<v Speaker 2>but not just them, right, and if Florida State's out

681
00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:37.240
<v Speaker 2>there on an island, are they just going to add them?

682
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess they wouldn't be the craziest thing,

683
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:42.920
<v Speaker 2>but Florida State would be the furthest team. I mean,

684
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<v Speaker 2>who'd be the closest team in the Big ten to

685
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:46.799
<v Speaker 2>Florida State? Would it be?

686
00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I you it's either Indiana or Maryland more than likely

687
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:50.839
<v Speaker 1>one of those.

688
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:54.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I mean it's and again, geography hasn't really

689
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:57.319
<v Speaker 2>mattered a whole lot in a while. But like, I

690
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:00.319
<v Speaker 2>don't know, like if you imagine if you paid and

691
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<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't do this, by the way, but if you

692
00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:04.279
<v Speaker 2>ended up paying like a settlement that's four hundred million

693
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:08.000
<v Speaker 2>dollars just to be free, and you didn't get an invite,

694
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:11.480
<v Speaker 2>how would you survive? You would have no. And again,

695
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:14.000
<v Speaker 2>one of the things that that that makes it impossible

696
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:16.159
<v Speaker 2>for these schools to get out of this grant of

697
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:20.199
<v Speaker 2>rights that rarely gets discussed, is that you're not just paying,

698
00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:23.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, the five hundred million plus that's estimated in

699
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:26.840
<v Speaker 2>these court records, because you're just breaking free of your

700
00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:29.679
<v Speaker 2>agreement and you're you're you know, you're having to pay

701
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.679
<v Speaker 2>your way out of something you agreed to. It's and

702
00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:37.039
<v Speaker 2>make it the correct verbage here. Yeah, it says it's

703
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:39.719
<v Speaker 2>not only paying the exit fee, but it's the cost

704
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:43.000
<v Speaker 2>of buying out its media rights. What they mean by

705
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:45.559
<v Speaker 2>that as far as buying out your media rights, you

706
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:47.679
<v Speaker 2>got to I mean, I think the majority of the

707
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:49.760
<v Speaker 2>cost here would be that if you don't buy out

708
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:52.119
<v Speaker 2>your media rights along with the exit fee again north

709
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:54.719
<v Speaker 2>through five hundred million dollars, you could leave, but you

710
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:58.599
<v Speaker 2>couldn't play games on TV because the ACC owns your rights.

711
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:01.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, you don't own your rights, and that's what's

712
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:03.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of weird about this. But then again, there's so

713
00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:05.480
<v Speaker 2>much money being shared, like you're in the sec of

714
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:07.000
<v Speaker 2>the Big ten, and I guess you could even say

715
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.760
<v Speaker 2>the same thing about the ACC in the Big twelve,

716
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:11.719
<v Speaker 2>Like the bulk of the money that these schools make

717
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:14.119
<v Speaker 2>from athletics is from these grant it's from these from

718
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:17.119
<v Speaker 2>these media rights deals. So therefore, like it's worth it,

719
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:19.079
<v Speaker 2>there's no doubt about it. You need that money, it's

720
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:21.280
<v Speaker 2>worth it. But it's also weird knowing that you don't

721
00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:24.960
<v Speaker 2>own your content right like you don't own it. So

722
00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:28.440
<v Speaker 2>like last week when Lola was in the Bahamas. They

723
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:30.800
<v Speaker 2>were able to do that like YouTube stream with the

724
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:33.159
<v Speaker 2>Field of sixty eight because it was it was because

725
00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:35.679
<v Speaker 2>of how they tied ind not the Field of sixty eight.

726
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:37.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. The crew from Field of sixty eight was

727
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:41.480
<v Speaker 2>doing the broadcast Rob and tj or too, I should say,

728
00:35:41.800 --> 00:35:45.599
<v Speaker 2>but it was through the collective, the five B two circle.

729
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:48.920
<v Speaker 2>And what are they calling it, Floyd Street Media, because

730
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:50.400
<v Speaker 2>if it was, you know, if they were going to

731
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:54.599
<v Speaker 2>put Paul Rodgers or you know, somebody else. I guess

732
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:56.320
<v Speaker 2>not Paul Rodgers because he does radio. But what I'm

733
00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:59.880
<v Speaker 2>getting at is like the ACC would be the ACC

734
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Network Extra or just the ACC Network itself. They're the

735
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:08.159
<v Speaker 2>only ones who have the ability to air that live

736
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:13.280
<v Speaker 2>on a television station or a network. So I don't

737
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:14.719
<v Speaker 2>know what to expect here. I just have a hard

738
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.679
<v Speaker 2>time seeing Florida State getting out of the league and

739
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:21.760
<v Speaker 2>paying that. But then again, like they're still fighting, you

740
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:23.000
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like they've not thrown in the

741
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:23.519
<v Speaker 2>towel yet.

742
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you though, Like even though the Big Ten

743
00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:30.320
<v Speaker 1>wants to expand their geographical region as much as they want,

744
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I just the way that Florida State kind of handles themselves.

745
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:36.599
<v Speaker 1>If something were to ever happen to the Big Ten

746
00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:38.760
<v Speaker 1>down the line to where they just I don't think

747
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:41.159
<v Speaker 1>it will happen anytime soon, But who's to say they

748
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:42.960
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't do it again to try to get out of

749
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:43.760
<v Speaker 1>their deal.

750
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, it's tough to know how legit

751
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:48.480
<v Speaker 2>it is. I don't think Bret McMurphy put out anything

752
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:51.559
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't real information he was getting from legitimate people.

753
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:54.599
<v Speaker 2>But there is something to be said about being a

754
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:56.280
<v Speaker 2>good league. If you're gonna if you're gonna get an

755
00:36:56.280 --> 00:36:58.559
<v Speaker 2>invite to a league, especially a league that for the

756
00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:01.119
<v Speaker 2>most part has been solidified for quite some time with

757
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:03.920
<v Speaker 2>the majority of its core members, you already have a

758
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:06.920
<v Speaker 2>reputation of being a bad partner. And I don't know

759
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:08.400
<v Speaker 2>if you want to And I don't know. Again, this

760
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:09.480
<v Speaker 2>is one of those things where I really don't know

761
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:12.679
<v Speaker 2>how much it matters. But they're also apparently not even

762
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:14.599
<v Speaker 2>close to being on par with the rest of the

763
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Big Ten academically. And I do believe of all these leagues,

764
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:21.360
<v Speaker 2>the one league that I think does actually care about

765
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.599
<v Speaker 2>that more than others. I mean, they care about money

766
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:25.199
<v Speaker 2>more than anything, But I think the Big Ten is

767
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:26.920
<v Speaker 2>sort of in there. I mean, I do think they

768
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:29.440
<v Speaker 2>hold themselves to a higher standard when it comes to

769
00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:32.239
<v Speaker 2>the academic side of stuff, and Florida State doesn't help

770
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:35.199
<v Speaker 2>them in that regard. And I talked about it yesterday

771
00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:38.159
<v Speaker 2>with Kentucky in the SEC. If you're Florida State, like

772
00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:41.719
<v Speaker 2>you are, one of the big dogs of this conference,

773
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:43.679
<v Speaker 2>there's value there. Now if you're not making enough money

774
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:47.000
<v Speaker 2>and all that, and that's one thing, but there's also

775
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:49.280
<v Speaker 2>no guarantee that you would even get into one of

776
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:52.199
<v Speaker 2>these other leagues. And even though you're probably still going

777
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.599
<v Speaker 2>to be behind everybody in the Big Ten and in

778
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:59.159
<v Speaker 2>the SEC, if you do your part and you win

779
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:01.599
<v Speaker 2>at a high level like the ACC at least has

780
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:04.679
<v Speaker 2>made adjustments to where you're gonna be incentivized based off performance,

781
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:06.920
<v Speaker 2>and that's where you could clean up and find yourself

782
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:09.639
<v Speaker 2>making you know, potentially right around what they're gonna make,

783
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:12.119
<v Speaker 2>at least for the time being. All right, quick break,

784
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:15.719
<v Speaker 2>we'll come back, keep this thing rolling along. It's a Friday.

785
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:17.920
<v Speaker 2>We're feeling good at least I am. Hopefully you guys

786
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:20.559
<v Speaker 2>are as well. If not, I mean, we'll try to

787
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:22.679
<v Speaker 2>fix that over the next two hours and some change

788
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:26.840
<v Speaker 2>right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. I am not

789
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:30.480
<v Speaker 2>too proud to say that I love this song, but

790
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I do think it's the first time I've ever requested it,

791
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:34.840
<v Speaker 2>and I did request John to play this. And here's why.

792
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<v Speaker 2>I just find this stuff to be fascinating. This song,

793
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:42.559
<v Speaker 2>of course is I mean, it's legendary, right, And that's

794
00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:44.039
<v Speaker 2>not to say it's like the best song ever, but

795
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean this was a huge hit. I would say

796
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<v Speaker 2>of all of en syncs songs as this not the

797
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<v Speaker 2>most notable one.

798
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Definitely one of the time two or three I would get.

799
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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's now back in the top twenty of the

800
00:38:55.079 --> 00:39:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Billboard charts because it's a part of Marvel's Deadpool and Wolverine. Okay,

801
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:04.880
<v Speaker 2>so this happens from time to tom and again. I

802
00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:09.320
<v Speaker 2>find it fascinating that a song can appear like in

803
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:12.079
<v Speaker 2>the trailer of a movie, or it can just become

804
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:16.679
<v Speaker 2>a viral TikTok sound that people use. Right, If you're

805
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<v Speaker 2>trying to catch on with the algorithm and really grow

806
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:22.280
<v Speaker 2>on TikTok or Instagram, one of the best ways to

807
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<v Speaker 2>do that is to attach your content to a trending sound.

808
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<v Speaker 2>And I was looking during the break to try to

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<v Speaker 2>find the example that I that I I mean, I

810
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<v Speaker 2>remember this was a couple of years ago, but it

811
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<v Speaker 2>was just so fascinating to me. There was a woman

812
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:37.239
<v Speaker 2>who and some of the songs that go viral on

813
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:40.880
<v Speaker 2>TikTok that just become the trending sounds. I mean, there's

814
00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:43.239
<v Speaker 2>no rhyme or reason, right. Some of them are just odd,

815
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:45.280
<v Speaker 2>and some of them are old. Some of them are

816
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:48.960
<v Speaker 2>not even professionally recorded. Like it's just wild how that works.

817
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:52.039
<v Speaker 2>But there was a woman who had a hit that was,

818
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<v Speaker 2>you know, decent, and she wasn't lever like a mainstream

819
00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:56.599
<v Speaker 2>famous musician in like the eighties. But you know, if

820
00:39:56.599 --> 00:39:58.679
<v Speaker 2>you google her, you'd find her Wikipedia and see that

821
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:02.119
<v Speaker 2>she had a run. She started a comfortable life away

822
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<v Speaker 2>from entertainment in Hollywood, and one of her old songs became,

823
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<v Speaker 2>i think in twenty twenty two, maybe the most shared

824
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<v Speaker 2>sound within the TikTok platform, and it restarted her music career,

825
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<v Speaker 2>and she started going on tour again and like became

826
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<v Speaker 2>you know, was you know, I don't know if she

827
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<v Speaker 2>made new music, but like, I just think that's cool

828
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<v Speaker 2>and in sync doesn't need any you know they're still

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they're again it's gonna sound like I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>an n Sync fanboy, but like they're an iconic group

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<v Speaker 2>and they were big at a time where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you could certainly overdo it when it comes to playing

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<v Speaker 2>their music, and I'm sure that still is a thing

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<v Speaker 2>this day and age. But now you can listen to

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you want. You're not You're not only able to

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<v Speaker 2>listen to what they decide to play on the radio

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<v Speaker 2>right like I can.

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<v Speaker 1>In the days of en Sync, was it them versus

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<v Speaker 1>the Backstreet Boys? Was there like a fandom rivalry?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? I mean, I don't know. I mean, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like both were super popular. I don't and I would

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<v Speaker 2>imagine that that they I mean, they hid huge fan bases,

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<v Speaker 2>but I could be wrong. I think it'd probably a

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<v Speaker 2>better question for like a girl my age because that

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<v Speaker 2>was the era, like we were the we were the

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<v Speaker 2>demo my age group was the demo of that, like

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<v Speaker 2>with Britney Spears Backstreet Boys in Saint Christina Aguilere, although

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<v Speaker 2>she wasn't as big as those others. I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>was like that was we were the kids that were

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<v Speaker 2>tuning into TRL with Carson Daily to see. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it was crazy, and then I remember the new wave

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<v Speaker 2>kind of came in with it being a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more not as uh, although I mean you go back

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<v Speaker 2>and look at what Britney Spears was wearing in her

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<v Speaker 2>videos when she was that young and we were that young,

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<v Speaker 2>like it was far from you know, appropriate, But then

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<v Speaker 2>again nowadays, I mean it seems like everything's off limits

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to that. But kid rock with ball

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<v Speaker 2>with the ball and then in sync and not in

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<v Speaker 2>sync but limb Biscuit, like, uh, did it all for

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<v Speaker 2>the nookie? Like I remember that era of TRL where

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<v Speaker 2>you had and then became huge, so like it was

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<v Speaker 2>that era of like pop, but I don't think eminem

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<v Speaker 2>was more hip hop rap or whatever. Yeah, exactly exactly

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<v Speaker 2>radio music like top one hundred hits, that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't remember there being like a thing where

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<v Speaker 2>if you liked in sync, you must not like the

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<v Speaker 2>Backstreet Boys, you know what I'm saying. But I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>there were people that were so loyal to one that

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't like the other and at times like, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do this. This is probably not something that's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be a good look, But I don't care as I said,

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<v Speaker 2>Guardrails come off on Friday's John throughout the show play

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<v Speaker 2>me different songs from each of the two, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna see if I can tell you which ones which? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think I'll be able to cause I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of feel like I'll be able to know, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not, Yeah, And so I'll do I'll try to

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<v Speaker 1>mix it up, maybe do easy hits, but maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>should I do more deep cuts so you won't like recognize.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'd say maybe not a deep cut like, but

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<v Speaker 2>then again, they had albums to where, like I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody knew every song. Okay, I'll trust you when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to that because you're really good when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to music and kind of knowing what would be

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<v Speaker 2>considered a song that, like people have heard of, but

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<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't have been like the Bye Bye Bye. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>Insank This song is now a top twenty. Yeah. It

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<v Speaker 2>says here that, following the inclusion in the latest Marvel

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<v Speaker 2>Studios movie Dead Pulling Wolverine in Sincs two thousand hit,

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<v Speaker 2>Bye Bye Bye returns to the top twenty this week

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<v Speaker 2>at number twelve for the first time in twenty four years.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, the track benefits from a forty two percent

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<v Speaker 2>week on week uplift this past week, so, like believe

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<v Speaker 2>it or not, this is gonna that makes a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of money for everybody involved from the record label and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure the what do you call royalties that these

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<v Speaker 2>guys get, so I don't know, I just find that fascinating,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm a nerd. All Right, two hours left, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a Friday. Let's have some fun right here on Sports

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<v Speaker 2>Talk seven to ninety