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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf

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<v Speaker 1>I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on

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<v Speaker 2>Good news and bad news. Good news is Shannon didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to drive into work today. The bad news is

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<v Speaker 2>she is getting the final round of root canal work done.

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<v Speaker 3>They call me yup mad, don't rush like they call

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<v Speaker 3>me yum mab rush elma.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not nice because that's not her. That's not the way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not because she doesn't brush your teeth. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's a different issue. But it's okay. I'll tell her

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<v Speaker 2>that you said that she's a yukmouth, all right. So

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<v Speaker 2>there has been a major major shift in what we

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<v Speaker 2>are now thinking about the way to end the war

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<v Speaker 2>between Russia and Ukraine, Russia's aggression against Ukraine, and there

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<v Speaker 2>is a lot that's going on in another continent. Both

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<v Speaker 2>the Secretary of Defense Pete Hegsath the Vice President Evans

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<v Speaker 2>they are in Europe right now and are expected to

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<v Speaker 2>have some major discussions when it comes to the peace

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<v Speaker 2>potential between Russia and Ukraine. Vladimir Zelenski has said that

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<v Speaker 2>he's not going to agree to anything unless he is

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<v Speaker 2>involved in the discussions. We know yesterday that President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>called Vladimir Putin and Vladimir Zelenski to talk with both

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<v Speaker 2>of them about it, so that'll come up in a

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<v Speaker 2>few minutes. We'll discuss what's going on also in the

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<v Speaker 2>shadow of this Munich Peace Conference, the Munich discussions this meeting,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a terrorist attack. Somebody drove a car into

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<v Speaker 2>a group, killed about twenty eight people, So we'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that also coming up at ten thirty. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>good day to do it because we're not worried about

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<v Speaker 2>fires today, but the sort of aftermath of Palisades and

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<v Speaker 2>the Eton fires. We'll talk about what's going on in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of the testing for contaminants in the soil, but

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<v Speaker 2>also how close things got to an absolute catach astrophe

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<v Speaker 2>up north when that fire broke out, the Hughes fire

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<v Speaker 2>near Castaic. We almost had to empty out a jail.

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<v Speaker 2>That probably would not have been a very very good idea.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, just in from DC, some must vote the a's

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<v Speaker 4>A fifty two, the n AS forty eight. The confirmation is confirmed.

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<v Speaker 2>RFK Junior will be the new head of the Department

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<v Speaker 2>of Health and Human Services. We'll talk about that we'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about Mitch McConnell, by the way, the only Republican

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<v Speaker 2>who voted against RFK Junior. This guy, barely alive, literally

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<v Speaker 2>barely alive, is doing what he can to oppose President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump before he leaves office. So all of that is

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<v Speaker 2>to come up. But listen, rain is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the big story of the day. And I was just

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<v Speaker 2>looking at some of the radar pictures. It's basically from

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<v Speaker 2>the border with Mexico to the border with Oregon. We

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<v Speaker 2>are seeing rain and snow throughout California as a result

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<v Speaker 2>of this storm. And here in La County, the expectation

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<v Speaker 2>is this afternoon and evening is when it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>get really heavy.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll see the brunt of the storm.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably National Weather Services it's between two pm and ten

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<v Speaker 2>pm tonight, So have fun driving home today, take it easy,

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<v Speaker 2>because of course that's when everybody's going to be freaked out.

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<v Speaker 2>Orange County, Inland Empire probably the later portion of that window.

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<v Speaker 2>They say probably between five pm and ten pm. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're farther south, you know you're down in San Diego County,

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<v Speaker 2>for example. They're talking about late into the evening and

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<v Speaker 2>into early tomorrow morning. When you will see the brunt

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<v Speaker 2>of the storm. But some of the places up in

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<v Speaker 2>central California are already absolutely getting blasted by some of

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<v Speaker 2>the storm. We've seen four inches of rain already in

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<v Speaker 2>a few places in San Luis Obispo County. The biggest

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<v Speaker 2>issue right now is going to be keeping an eye

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<v Speaker 2>on the burn scar areas. Whether it's the Palisades Fire,

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<v Speaker 2>the Eaten fire, the Hughes fire, all of them are

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<v Speaker 2>potential disasters waiting to happen because of the mudslide potential

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<v Speaker 2>that's out there. So in the Palisades area, the area

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<v Speaker 2>is now limited to residents only until tomorrow afternoon. Contractors

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<v Speaker 2>with passes will not be allowed to go into the

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<v Speaker 2>Palisades area. Evacuation warnings issued for the Getty Villa area,

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<v Speaker 2>portion of the Highlands neighborhood near the Burns, the northern

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<v Speaker 2>section of Bien Venita Avenue, a northern section of Temis

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<v Speaker 2>called Canyon Road, northern edge of Marinette Road and Oracle Place,

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<v Speaker 2>and the area right around Will Rogers State Park Road,

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<v Speaker 2>all of them as of right now under evacuation warnings

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<v Speaker 2>because of the potential for things to get worse. Malibu Brentwood,

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<v Speaker 2>Sunset Mesa, some of the places in Hollywood and Hollywood

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<v Speaker 2>Hills West, all of them in Silmar. Also the evacuation

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<v Speaker 2>warnings in effect for a few homes on the western

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<v Speaker 2>edge of the Oak Ridge Mobile Home Park. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is just we're going to be basically hanging on

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<v Speaker 2>by our fingernails over the course of the next few hours,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to see if this thing is going to dump

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<v Speaker 2>as much rain as is expected. Orange County along the canyons,

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<v Speaker 2>all of them Tribuco Hot Springs, Bell Long Majesca areas

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<v Speaker 2>of risk because of the debrif Row flow because of

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<v Speaker 2>the airport fire, and the evacuation warning is in effect

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<v Speaker 2>and has been so for about an hour and then out.

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<v Speaker 2>In San Bernardino County, evacuation warning is issued for the

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<v Speaker 2>unincorporated communities the Mount Baldy Village, right Wood, some of

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<v Speaker 2>the northern and eastern neighborhoods in the City of Highland

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<v Speaker 2>because of all of this. So if there are problems,

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<v Speaker 2>all right again, a major shift internationally when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to how we're looking at the end whatever that is

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<v Speaker 2>of the Russian aggression in Ukraine. We'll talk about all

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<v Speaker 2>of the moves that have been made over the course

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<v Speaker 2>of the you say, last twenty four thirty six hours,

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<v Speaker 2>and what it means going forward.

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<v Speaker 2>from ABC News talking about Ukraine and Russia, Well.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been speaking with a former senior Ukrainian official in

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<v Speaker 5>Ukraine who says that there's a lot of confusion. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>concerned in Ukraine because they also feel that President Trump

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<v Speaker 5>has already given up a number of key negotiating positions

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<v Speaker 5>even before the negotiations have begun, saying that I've been

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<v Speaker 5>particular that NATO membership is off the table, and they're saying,

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<v Speaker 5>even if that was understood, it's best not to say

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<v Speaker 5>that before you begin talks.

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<v Speaker 2>This on the heels of yesterday's announcement from the White

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<v Speaker 2>House and from the Kremlin that there was a ninety

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<v Speaker 2>minute phone conversation between President Trump and President Putin, and

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<v Speaker 2>then Trump got on the phone with Zelensky out of

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<v Speaker 2>Ukraine and described what was going on now. According to Zelenski,

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<v Speaker 2>he spoke with Trump about a lasting, reliable peace. Defense

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<v Speaker 2>Secretary Pete Hegseth says it is unlikely that Ukraine would

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<v Speaker 2>join NATO. That obviously would come as a pretty disappointing

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<v Speaker 2>things as Patrick Reevel was describing there. Pete Hegseth is

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<v Speaker 2>in Brussels and has been talking with military leaders from

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<v Speaker 2>other countries as well, secretary level military officials about not

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<v Speaker 2>just Ukraine, but all of Northern and Eastern Europe.

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<v Speaker 6>I had the chance to brief allies on President Trump's

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<v Speaker 6>top priority, a diplomatic, peaceful end to this war as

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<v Speaker 6>quickly as possible, in a manner that creates enduring and

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<v Speaker 6>durable peace. The American Defense Department fully supports the efforts

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<v Speaker 6>of the Trump administration, and we look to allies to

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<v Speaker 6>support this important work with leading on Ukraine security assistance

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<v Speaker 6>now through increased contributions and greater ownership of future security

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<v Speaker 6>assistance to Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously he's talking specifically about NATO allies paying their

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<v Speaker 2>fair share his term.

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<v Speaker 4>Trump told reporters at the White House.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of, you know, giving up some of these

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<v Speaker 2>key positions before the negotiations actually begins. Lenski doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to give up pieces of land necessarily. He doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to immediately take the NATO membership off the table. Trumptial

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<v Speaker 2>reporters of the White House, it's unlikely that Ukraine would

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<v Speaker 2>return to its pre twenty fourteen board, but said that

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<v Speaker 2>some of that land will come back. It sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>that's the kind of deal that Trump wants to put

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<v Speaker 2>in place, to give up some of the land to

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<v Speaker 2>exchange basically exchange some of the Russian occupied territory right now,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's Crimea or other portions back to Ukraine, and

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<v Speaker 2>then Ukraine would give up something like the Cursk region

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<v Speaker 2>farther to the east in Ukraine, which has already got

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of Russian nationals that live there, they speak

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<v Speaker 2>the Russian language, etc. That's one of the reasons that

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<v Speaker 2>Vladimir Putin went in there in the first place. But

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<v Speaker 2>he had said, he being Trump, that this we've got

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<v Speaker 2>to end this. It's time to stop this ridiculous war.

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<v Speaker 2>There has been massive, totally unnecessary death and destruction, and

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<v Speaker 2>he wrote, God bless the people of Russia and Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 2>Now tomorrow is when the Munich Security Conference kicks off.

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<v Speaker 2>Munich is where Jade Vance is going to be the

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<v Speaker 2>vice president. Secretary of State Marco Rubio is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be there. And there was an event early this morning

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<v Speaker 2>where where at least twenty eight people wounded after a

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<v Speaker 2>car drove into a group of people in Munich. German

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<v Speaker 2>newspaper reported at least two or in serious condition, a

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<v Speaker 2>child in critical condition. Eyewitnesses said that a car ran

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<v Speaker 2>and child were lying under the car. Munich police said

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<v Speaker 2>a major police operation in the area was underway. This

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<v Speaker 2>is by the way, a few blocks away from where

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<v Speaker 2>this Munich security conference is supposed to be taking place

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<v Speaker 2>starting tomorrow. Munich police have arrested a guy. They described

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<v Speaker 2>him as a twenty four year old Afghan asylum seeker.

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<v Speaker 2>He was detained there on site. They said there is

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<v Speaker 2>no other there is no further danger. The attack occurred

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<v Speaker 2>during a what they called the Verdi strike. It's called

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<v Speaker 2>the Verdi strike because the trade union, the Verity Trade Union,

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<v Speaker 2>is part of an ongoing wage dispute, and eyewitnesses said

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<v Speaker 2>again in Munich. In the background of all of that,

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<v Speaker 4>On Saturday, they had said that Israel was.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump that if they don't release everybody by noon, all

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<v Speaker 2>leave it up to Israel to make those decisions. Douglas

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<v Speaker 2>the Middle East, and said, Okay, so if they don't

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<v Speaker 3>There's not many targets there left, and there's.

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<v Speaker 3>about Afghanistan and running out of targets. There aren't many

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<v Speaker 3>things to hit. Everyone knows where the hostages are. The

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<v Speaker 3>You can't strike there, But what do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>That's the story internationally. We'll keep our eyes on coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>A court decision yesterday that was completely unexpected. There was

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<v Speaker 2>of it, and then yesterday said the buyouts may proceed,

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<v Speaker 2>Rain's going to be the big story throughout the course

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<v Speaker 2>German anti terrorism officials. An asylum seeker from Afghanistan has

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<v Speaker 2>was taking place. The Senate confirmed RFK Junior as Health

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<v Speaker 2>and Human Services Secretary today, So he will take over

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<v Speaker 2>a department with about a one point seven trillion dollar budget,

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<v Speaker 2>eighty thousand employees. It regulates vaccines, It decides which prescription

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<v Speaker 2>yet another cabinet member that's been confirmed, Linda McMahon, is

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<v Speaker 2>She is the choice for Education Secretary, and she told

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<v Speaker 2>a confirmation hearing today she is prepared to enact President

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<v Speaker 4>So that is something that's going on in DC right now.

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<v Speaker 2>There was one big speed bump that was removed yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>Why doesn't somebody tell me what they think is going on?

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<v Speaker 4>Those can be hard explain this to me, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump put out a memo that said that federal

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<v Speaker 2>employees could take a buyout about an eight month payout

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<v Speaker 2>your keys and boom scooch. Well, there were federal unions,

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<v Speaker 2>federal employee unions that brought a lawsuit and a district judge,

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<v Speaker 2>Judge George O'Toole put that plan on hold because last

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<v Speaker 2>week there was a deadline that existed, and what the

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<v Speaker 2>would pass legal muster. The federal judge yesterday then told

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<v Speaker 2>the administration you can go forward with the deferred resignation

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<v Speaker 2>offer for federal employees and when he did that, seventy

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand federal workers accepted the package. According to a

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<v Speaker 2>spokesperson for the Office of Personnel Management, when it happened,

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<v Speaker 2>when the judge said, Okay, we can allow this to happen,

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump said it ends tonight, and in fact last

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<v Speaker 2>night the program closed. The offer would allow these people

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<v Speaker 2>said the end of September. The reason that the judge

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<v Speaker 2>which meant they had no case. They lacked standing, which

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five thousand federal employees, by the way, who took

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<v Speaker 2>The White House has said that the target in terms

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<v Speaker 2>and ten percent. Their plan was to get somewhere between

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<v Speaker 2>five and ten percent. To take these these deferred resignations,

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<v Speaker 2>among those who remain. In fact, eligible employees initially had

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<v Speaker 4>After the pause.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a five page ruling that came out of

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<v Speaker 2>that extended the deadline for federal workers to accept the

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<v Speaker 2>administration's designated deferred resignation offer. The program was challenged I

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned by the unions, the American Federation of Government Employees

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<v Speaker 2>of inquiries and counseling quests that the directive had caused.

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<v Speaker 2>They refer to it as the Fork Directive because One

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<v Speaker 2>of the memo lines, apparently in the email that went

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<v Speaker 2>in the first place. So lawyers for the American Federation

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<v Speaker 2>Governor Employees, the Big Union are figuring this out. They're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about their next steps. They obviously could continue farther

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<v Speaker 2>up the chain in terms of their judicial recourse in

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<v Speaker 2>this case. The White House Press Secretary yesterday praised the

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<v Speaker 2>ruling by the judge. She suggested some judges hearing cases

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<v Speaker 2>pending against the Trump administration were judicial activists. It's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of funny how once the thing goes their way, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not claiming that this is judicial activism, but if it

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<v Speaker 2>can't have it both ways. But the unions have been

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<v Speaker 2>making a lot of emergency claims. They've been filing lawsuit

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<v Speaker 2>after lawsuit to try to stop DOGE, this Department of

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<v Speaker 2>Government efficiency Elon Musk's group, because of privacy issues, because

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<v Speaker 2>of employment law issues, and other issues. And the judge

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<v Speaker 2>the District Court has already held that unions cannot go

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<v Speaker 2>straight to federal district court on a lot of matters

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<v Speaker 2>under the Federal Labor Relations Authority. So they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>challenge all of this. Now, speaking of Doze, President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>at about ten o'clock today our time about some of

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<v Speaker 4>They have been wrong in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, Elon Musk, in that news conference with his

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<v Speaker 2>Another seismic hotspot getting attention from scientists is signed that

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<v Speaker 2>most of the potential for mudslides. A Moss says it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to release the next group of three Israeli hostages

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one years old, and the heroin addict turned criminology

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<v Speaker 2>student from Washington State who was accused of killing them,

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Coberger.

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<v Speaker 4>We've talked.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, one of the reasons that they specifically found

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<v Speaker 2>him as the suspect was this drop of DNA that

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<v Speaker 2>was discovered on a knife sheath laying adjacent to the

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<v Speaker 2>bloodied body of one of the victims.

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<v Speaker 4>In this case, it was Madison Mogan.

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<v Speaker 2>The technicians at the FBI Crime Lab in Quantico, Virginia

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<v Speaker 2>were able to upload this part article of DNA to

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<v Speaker 2>a genetic database led them to a in At this

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<v Speaker 2>point we still don't know, but a member of the

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<v Speaker 2>Coburger family who shared their DNA information with one of

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<v Speaker 2>those online ancestry websites, the genetic genealogy process that we've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about many times solving a bunch of cold cases,

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<v Speaker 2>they found somebody who matched portions of the DNA and

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<v Speaker 2>then recreated the family tree to point to Brian Coberger,

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who not only lived close but has very

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<v Speaker 2>little in way of an alibi for the night of

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<v Speaker 2>the murders at this case. At this point, Howard Bloom,

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<v Speaker 2>an author that we spoke to who's already written about

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<v Speaker 2>this murder and believes that Brian Coburger is the is

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<v Speaker 2>the person who did it. He said that that piece

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<v Speaker 2>of DNA, the crux of this case, is smaller than

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<v Speaker 2>a speck of floating dust. That's how that's how tiny

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<v Speaker 2>this little speck of DNA was on this knife sheath

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<v Speaker 2>that they found under the body of one of the women.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the defense is saying they have proof that it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't him, and their proof is two unidentified male blood

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<v Speaker 2>samples also at that house. One was on a handrail

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<v Speaker 2>at the house and one was on a glove outside

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<v Speaker 2>the house, both of them recovered by investigators after the

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<v Speaker 2>stabbing deaths. That's not enough to say that someone else

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<v Speaker 2>was there and did it, but it is enough for

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<v Speaker 2>a defense attorney to throw it against the wall and

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<v Speaker 2>see what sticks and suggest somehow that investigators in Idaho

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do their due diligence. They never investigated to find

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<v Speaker 2>out who those other blood samples belonged to. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just throwing it at the wall at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>And in fact, this week when they went before the judge,

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<v Speaker 2>they were shot down by the judge pretty hard. The

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<v Speaker 2>attorney said that detectives had misled the magistrate in the

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<v Speaker 2>case with their probable cause affidavit by leaving out the

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<v Speaker 2>details about the other blood that was found. So the

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<v Speaker 2>judge is trying to drill down in the connection between

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<v Speaker 2>the suspect and the DNA that was found under Maddie's body,

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<v Speaker 2>And the judge says, how does that, even if they

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<v Speaker 2>tell us, how, even if it's disclosed, preclude of finding

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<v Speaker 2>a probable cause When there's a DNA match between the

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<v Speaker 2>DNA on the sheath on that knife sheath and Brian Coberger,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't that probable cause? Every day and twice on Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>that again, this is the judge talking to the defense attorneys.

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<v Speaker 2>What does a knife sheath at a scene mean? Said

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<v Speaker 2>the defense attorney. That's going to be the ultimate question. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>when four people are stabbed to death, the knife sheath

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<v Speaker 2>usually means that was the sheath that held the murder weapon.

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<v Speaker 4>And the judge said as much.

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<v Speaker 2>The judge said, if you're killed by a knife, it

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<v Speaker 2>probably means a lot. Probable cause is not a proof

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<v Speaker 2>beyond a reasonable doubt standard. It's a probable cause to

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<v Speaker 2>think that this person might have done it. And the

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<v Speaker 2>judge went on to say, I'm not sure how that

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<v Speaker 2>direct DNA connection to a sheath found on or near

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<v Speaker 2>one of the victims doesn't close the book on anything

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<v Speaker 2>on probable cause. After that, I mentioned Howard Bloom, the

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<v Speaker 2>guy wrote the book. We talked to him on this show.

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<v Speaker 2>He's now worried that this guy might get off, that

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<v Speaker 2>the guy might walk. He said, over two and a

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<v Speaker 2>half years, he spent weeks in that town where the

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<v Speaker 2>students were killed. He's talked to all the law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 2>all the witnesses, everybody around, and he says, I am

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely convinced that Coburger is guilty of the murders. But

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<v Speaker 2>his opinion, I mean, but his opinion doesn't mean very

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<v Speaker 2>much because it's the judge and the jury that get

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<v Speaker 2>to decide this. And he said, several stunning courtroom revelations

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<v Speaker 2>have left me thinking about the previously unthinkable that this

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<v Speaker 2>guy might walk, And it could be because of simple

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<v Speaker 2>things like weird random blood samples that existed on a

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<v Speaker 2>handrail and on a glove outside the house. That might

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<v Speaker 2>be what gets him to walk off of this crime.

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<v Speaker 2>Up next, President Trump is expected old a news conference

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<v Speaker 2>from the White House. When he starts, we'll get into that,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're going to be talking a little bit about

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<v Speaker 2>what Elon Musk has said about the deletion of entire

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<v Speaker 2>federal agencies. Oh and this limestone, mind where we keep files.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not fake, it's a real thing, and it's literally

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<v Speaker 2>out of the fifties.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all coming up.

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