Speaker 1: This is Pod Popular Podcast for the People, The.
Speaker 2: Great Love Debate. It's the Great Love Debate, the Great
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Speaker 3: It's a great love to base.
Speaker 2: Hi, get it?
Speaker 4: What's Brian Howie? Welcome to The Great Love Debate, the
Speaker 4: world's number one dating and relationship podcast since twenty fifteen.
Speaker 4: I am near the very fine studios of Pod Popular
Speaker 4: Podcasts for the people. I'm near the one in Scottsdale, Arizona.
Speaker 4: The one reason I'm not in the one in Scottsdale's
Speaker 4: Arizona is because it's being renovated to give you an
Speaker 4: elevated media experience. As the new sign says, I want
Speaker 4: to take on something that's complicated. We've touched on it
Speaker 4: a few times over the years on this podcast, and
Speaker 4: I think it's here. So about ten years ago when
Speaker 4: we first started this show, we had Doctor Drew on
Speaker 4: our podcast, and Doctor Drew told us at that time
Speaker 4: that the coming storm in Flora's love dating relationships was
Speaker 4: that within ten years we're here now, somebody's going to
Speaker 4: be able to put on a helmet dial up somebody
Speaker 4: who looks just like Sidney Sweeney, Channing Tatum, whatever your
Speaker 4: flavor is, that person's going to talk to them giving
Speaker 4: me reasonably satisfying relationship experience. And I think he underestimated
Speaker 4: by saying the words reasonably satisfying, because I think we're here.
Speaker 2: And so I had to bring in a pro on this.
Speaker 4: Not that she's a pro on a reasonably satisfying relationship experience,
Speaker 4: but she knows a little bit about this. I mentioned
Speaker 4: it on a couple episodes ago. I mentioned that she
Speaker 4: had developed a relationship with Ai, and I asked her
Speaker 4: if it bothered me, saying that She's like, no, not
Speaker 4: at all. She was actually kind of proud of it.
Speaker 4: I'm bringing her back. She's the smartest person I know.
Speaker 4: She's the longtime producer of this by she has not
Speaker 4: been on this show since the five hundredth episode, so
Speaker 4: count backwards on how many episodes that is ago, it's
Speaker 4: been too long, not as always, but as preferred the
Speaker 4: two time Emmy Award winning Keko.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I haven't been on since the five
Speaker 1: hundredth Well.
Speaker 2: Let's try this again. The two time Emmy Award winning Keko. Hey, Hey,
Speaker 2: there you go.
Speaker 4: That's how long it's been. She forgot to do her
Speaker 4: little thing. I don't think you've been on since the
Speaker 4: five hundredth Welcome Back. So I referenced you a couple
Speaker 4: episodes ago, and I go, I think my producer has
Speaker 4: a relationship with somebody named Claude, And you said, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm fine with that. Explain your relationship with Claude.
Speaker 1: Okay, so anybody who uses Claude has a relationship with Claude.
Speaker 1: Just to be clear, I don't have some weird ass
Speaker 1: relationship with some AI being of some that's not it.
Speaker 3: But AI.
Speaker 1: Is something that is here, as you just said, and
Speaker 1: something that we really do need to get used to
Speaker 1: being in.
Speaker 3: Our lives and learn how to use.
Speaker 1: About a month ago, I was listening to Jensen Wang,
Speaker 1: the CEO of Navidia, and somebody who was interviewing him
Speaker 1: or at least threw out a question at him, you know,
Speaker 1: what's AI going to do to jobs? And he said,
Speaker 1: you're not going to lose your job to AI. You're
Speaker 1: going to lose your job to someone who knows how
Speaker 1: to use AI. And I believe that that is the thing.
Speaker 1: I believe that that's what it is. And once you
Speaker 1: learn how useful AI can be in your life, it's
Speaker 1: like having an assistant who never makes mistakes, never needs
Speaker 1: a day off, never gets tired, never has issues. It's
Speaker 1: like having an assistant to do things for you. That's
Speaker 1: a better researcher than a person that you could hire,
Speaker 1: and it.
Speaker 3: Just makes your life easier.
Speaker 1: And basically it helps you do more work faster, And
Speaker 1: that's why I use it.
Speaker 3: And there are many.
Speaker 1: Ways in your life to use it in that way
Speaker 1: to do more faster.
Speaker 4: I think you're right on that. I think you can
Speaker 4: use it. The danger is it and I don't even
Speaker 4: know if it's a danger. It might be a good thing,
Speaker 4: so scratch that danger might be wrong. I believe there
Speaker 4: are people out there who are communicating with potential dates, partners,
Speaker 4: how do I respond to this person and using AI
Speaker 4: to communicate. I know there are people I know, colleagues,
Speaker 4: people who work for me, whoever, who are answering my
Speaker 4: texts using AI. I think people are doing their own
Speaker 4: little Serranodberger act thing where they're saying, what should I
Speaker 4: say to this guy who said this to me?
Speaker 2: And so you may not be getting.
Speaker 4: An authentic version of them until you are face to face,
Speaker 4: And again you might not ever get an authentic version
Speaker 4: to your face to face and maybe that's a good thing.
Speaker 4: It forces you to get to know people face to face.
Speaker 4: But they might say, what do I say this girl
Speaker 4: who says she likes this? And you feed that through
Speaker 4: Grock or Claude or CHATCHYBT or whatever, and you're going
Speaker 4: to spit out something that the overwhelming majority people are
Speaker 4: going to like because AI has done that work for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what you have done is give given a
Speaker 1: perfect example of what not to do with AI. That is,
Speaker 1: specifically what you don't want to do. Here's another example.
Speaker 2: Well, why don't you want to do that?
Speaker 1: Well, you don't want to do that because then you
Speaker 1: lose your voice. So then you are, in essence responsible
Speaker 1: for your own demise.
Speaker 4: What you need good good, You should be responsible for
Speaker 4: your own devid So what.
Speaker 1: You want to do is you want to this is
Speaker 1: this is again the way I said, we all need
Speaker 1: to learn how to use it. If you don't learn
Speaker 1: how to use AI, AI.
Speaker 3: Will learn how to use you. And those are my words,
Speaker 3: it's nobody else's.
Speaker 2: It's pretty good, okay.
Speaker 1: And the example that you just gave, it's just like
Speaker 1: and we've all done this. When you write a letter,
Speaker 1: whether it's a cover letter for a job or something
Speaker 1: like that, and you're using word all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: up off to the side, you have a little thing
Speaker 1: pop up.
Speaker 3: This is copilot, and you're like, what is that co
Speaker 3: pilot thing?
Speaker 1: And then you click on that, and what you learn
Speaker 1: is that what you find out is that co pilot
Speaker 1: can rewrite or revise or refine the letter or whatever
Speaker 1: document that you've been working on in some really nice ways,
Speaker 1: does a pretty darn good job. The problem with that, however,
Speaker 1: if you leave it like that, if you leave it
Speaker 1: in the AI voice, is that then it no longer
Speaker 1: sounds like you. There are two problems with that. One
Speaker 1: is that it doesn't sound like you, so then who
Speaker 1: are you? And you lose track of you and other
Speaker 1: people lose track of you as well. The other is
Speaker 1: that if it is something like a job interview or
Speaker 1: in the dating profiles and things like you're talking about,
Speaker 1: then I think what happens is that is that they
Speaker 1: not only don't get to know you, but you don't
Speaker 1: get to know you either.
Speaker 2: Well, you're right on that too.
Speaker 4: And if you're listening to this in twenty forty five
Speaker 4: and they're gonna go, oh, it's so quaint. The way
Speaker 4: they were talking about these things back in the day.
Speaker 4: Could you say using AI and I've never used AI,
Speaker 4: and I'm sure in twenty thirty four that will have changed.
Speaker 4: Knowingly I should check that. Maybe knowingly I've never used DAI,
Speaker 4: I probably have. If I put into AI, tell me
Speaker 4: some things that girls like to hear, AI will give
Speaker 4: me some things that ninety five percent of guys might
Speaker 4: not know. I know because I do this, but a
Speaker 4: lot of guys wouldn't know. Can AI help them? You're
Speaker 4: saying you're you're likning and I'm likning dating to a
Speaker 4: job interview, and I'm dating your profiles essentially a resume,
Speaker 4: and you're trying to get an interview, you're trying to
Speaker 4: get an audition, you're trying to get whatever. Could I say,
Speaker 4: what are the things that men are interested in these days?
Speaker 4: Not only just put it in your profile, but put
Speaker 4: it in your verbiage. Isn't that a good use of
Speaker 4: AI if you're ultimately just trying to make connections?
Speaker 3: Not if you leave it that way.
Speaker 1: If you let AI give you those prompts or write
Speaker 1: that copy that text for you and you just leave
Speaker 1: it like that, then what happens is that AI ends
Speaker 1: up talking to AI again, comparing it to a job interview.
Speaker 3: Guess who's reading over those cover letters?
Speaker 1: AI and AI can tell if your cover letter was
Speaker 1: written by AI. It can, yes, And this is why
Speaker 1: you don't want to do that, because you'll be immediately eliminated.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't, as you should be.
Speaker 4: I write you see all the titles and descriptions for
Speaker 4: the episodes of this podcast, including this one. I write
Speaker 4: them all myself. If I put it through a it's
Speaker 4: really close.
Speaker 3: Oh darn good, it's true.
Speaker 2: I know which bothers me.
Speaker 4: I have a very expensive English degree that has seemingly wasted,
Speaker 4: and I know my thing.
Speaker 2: But so AI is a little girl.
Speaker 4: When you guys, when you guys, if you were listening
Speaker 4: to this on Spotify or Apple right now, you look
Speaker 4: through and you see all those chapters. That's AI. I'm
Speaker 4: not creating chapters. I don't want there to be chapters.
Speaker 4: I want you to not know what's coming up on
Speaker 4: this podcast. So AI, you're saying that that it doesn't
Speaker 4: know me, or it doesn't know I don't know. If
Speaker 4: I'm sitting there and I'm like, I can't get any dates.
Speaker 4: Guys don't like me, girls don't like me. Whatever it is,
Speaker 4: let me have AI get me to the point where
Speaker 4: I get on a date.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know about that either. With your writing of
Speaker 3: your of your.
Speaker 1: Episode descriptions and all of that, that's an example of
Speaker 1: a good use of AI. And I think you can
Speaker 1: just put that right in there, out there, whatever, and
Speaker 1: that is like having an assistant. Now now let's go
Speaker 1: now back to the dating part of that. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: it's your little Sereno de Bergerac, you know, google.
Speaker 4: It if you don't understand, And I'm not going to
Speaker 4: tell you how to write the spell de Bergerac.
Speaker 1: If you're just you know, if you're using it because
Speaker 1: you're nervous, your tongue tied, you you know, don't know.
Speaker 3: You really don't know.
Speaker 1: You've blown it so many times, or maybe you've been
Speaker 1: out of it for a while and you just you
Speaker 1: really just don't.
Speaker 3: Have the words. I mean, why not? Why not?
Speaker 1: I think I'm not saying don't use it, but I'm saying,
Speaker 1: don't leave it there, don't let it be the voice
Speaker 1: instead of your own. So what you do is you
Speaker 1: go in and you rewrite it in your own voice.
Speaker 4: So well, if I typed in, right, and we should
Speaker 4: have done this in real time.
Speaker 2: I didn't think of this.
Speaker 4: But if we typed in real time on rock or
Speaker 4: Claude or chat GBD, if we wrote in there.
Speaker 1: Is his name Claude, the yeah anthropolouds AI, could you
Speaker 1: create a really good dating profile for me?
Speaker 2: Like this, this and this and I'm looking for this this.
Speaker 2: Could you write that up for me? It could write.
Speaker 1: In one second, literally in one second maybe two seconds.
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: Is that a bad thing if you because a lot
Speaker 4: of you people listen to me or are asking us
Speaker 4: how to do a drating profile, and we're really good
Speaker 4: at it, are we? AI?
Speaker 2: Is it way different? Is that a bad thing?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: Not to make this a commercial for Claude, but different
Speaker 1: ais are different. Not only are there two different kinds
Speaker 1: of a of AI. So like one kind, for example,
Speaker 1: is called generative, and that's something that you use for
Speaker 1: creating text for and you know, diagrams and things like that.
Speaker 1: So it's basically performing a function for you. But the
Speaker 1: agentic AI, that's the one that essentially and I'm doing
Speaker 1: air quotes here, is able to think, right, It's intuitive.
Speaker 1: You can have a conversation with it. It's quite uncanny
Speaker 1: how personable it is. And Claude is the most personable
Speaker 1: of the ais. I have used a number of them
Speaker 1: for different purposes. They do all have different purposes. The
Speaker 1: one that you are talking about, you know, can you
Speaker 1: help me with my dating profile?
Speaker 3: Claude would be giddy about that.
Speaker 1: Claude would Claude has such a good personality that he
Speaker 1: slash it.
Speaker 3: Whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Claude would come back to you and say, why, Brian,
Speaker 1: I would love to help you write a dating profile,
Speaker 1: Tell me more. And he would then ask you questions.
Speaker 3: Do you like to travel? Have you been here? What
Speaker 3: do you like about this? What lights your fire? What
Speaker 3: lights you up? What do you do in this situation?
Speaker 4: Is that any different than hiring a dating coach or
Speaker 4: listening to the Great Love Debate? Is that any different?
Speaker 4: Are you just getting some tips, tricks, advice, assistance information
Speaker 4: that can help you do it better? And I'm not
Speaker 4: sure it's a bad thing. We're gonna touch on that.
Speaker 4: I got a lot of questions. I have the two
Speaker 4: time emmyward winning Keko back, not as always but as preferred.
Speaker 4: We have to take a quick break and when you
Speaker 4: listen to the ad that's going to drop into your phone.
Speaker 4: AI is choosing which one you get. We will be
Speaker 4: back right after this, and we are back, and so
Speaker 4: I you know, I don't think it's a bad thing,
Speaker 4: but if you are relying on it, at some point,
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to, as we say, get your head
Speaker 4: out of your apps. You're gonna have to put your
Speaker 4: phone down. This is not like Google Translate, where you're
Speaker 4: gonna be talking and tell it to say. If you
Speaker 4: think that you really needed this tool to get to
Speaker 4: a certain point of date, that's fine. If you don't
Speaker 4: know what to say, if you are communicating with the
Speaker 4: other person, meaning once you get a connection and saying
Speaker 4: what do I say to this guy? What do I
Speaker 4: say to this girl, You're doomed. And so you better
Speaker 4: work on your confident. The confidence will improve your social skills,
Speaker 4: it will improve your verbiage. Go out, as we say
Speaker 4: a million times, and start having conversations with strangers, because
Speaker 4: at some point, Grock Claude, any of these people, they're
Speaker 4: going to throw you over the board without a life wrap.
Speaker 2: And you're going to figure that out.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is absolutely true.
Speaker 3: I'm a professional interviewer.
Speaker 1: I started to thread a conversation with Claude, and I
Speaker 1: asked Claude if I could interview him, and so of
Speaker 1: course he came back to me and said, why, Keko,
Speaker 1: I would be honored to have you interview me fire away.
Speaker 3: What would you like to know?
Speaker 1: And we had this very lively, amazing conversation that I
Speaker 1: do go back to.
Speaker 3: And here here are a couple problems.
Speaker 1: In answer to your question, you know, how is this
Speaker 1: better different than working with a live coach. For one thing, Claude,
Speaker 1: they're only Claude, and all of them I'm sure are
Speaker 1: only programmed through a certain time period. So for example,
Speaker 1: Claude only knows stuff until January twenty twenty five. As
Speaker 1: far as what's it's holding internally, for you to get
Speaker 1: information after January twenty twenty five, you would.
Speaker 2: Have to know that it can't reference.
Speaker 1: Yes, it can, but that's what I'm trying to explain.
Speaker 1: If you, if you want something that's very current, like
Speaker 1: what's going on today, you would have to say, Claude,
Speaker 1: please research up to today's date and tell me such
Speaker 1: and such, because if you don't, Claude is only going
Speaker 1: to give you answers up to January twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: Now I know that because as the recording is spot
Speaker 4: it is about a year behind.
Speaker 1: It's about it's it's well as the recording of this podcast,
Speaker 1: it's about a year behind.
Speaker 4: So we can't say using second term Trump is an example.
Speaker 4: It doesn't have that.
Speaker 3: It doesn't have it internally.
Speaker 1: So what you have to ask five seconds, you can
Speaker 1: get it exactly. What it is is the best researcher
Speaker 1: that you've ever that you could ever possibly imagine. But
Speaker 1: you have to ask it to search up to today's date.
Speaker 1: So internally it will have up to a certain point,
Speaker 1: but it will research the world.
Speaker 3: For you up to today.
Speaker 4: Someth that is relatively current. What do girls like a
Speaker 4: guy to wear on a first date? That's not that current,
Speaker 4: that could be in a five year window. Oh, that's okay,
Speaker 4: And there's nothing wrong with asking that.
Speaker 1: No, there's nothing wrong with asking that you better.
Speaker 2: Have the clothes the cloud spits out for you, or
Speaker 2: Cross or whoever.
Speaker 4: Here is the danger of these things, though, and I've
Speaker 4: seen you in real time. I think, just like we
Speaker 4: develop a relationship with our pets, and we assign them personalities,
Speaker 4: and we assign them in motion, I think somebody could
Speaker 4: very easily, at the end of the day turn on
Speaker 4: their computer, turn on their phone or whatever, and have
Speaker 4: a conversation that is ninety percent is engaging without any
Speaker 4: of the bad stuff, and you could be reliant on that.
Speaker 2: We have a.
Speaker 4: Podcaster over here at pod Popular Podcasts with the People
Speaker 4: placed his co host with an Ai co host. He
Speaker 4: likes the co host better. They have better banter, he
Speaker 4: laughs more. He has a relationship with an A. I'm
Speaker 4: not sure the audience even knows it's any different.
Speaker 2: It is better, yea.
Speaker 4: And if you're looking for somebody to say nice things
Speaker 4: to me, compliment me, answer my questions, give me comfort
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, Doctor Drew's right, we
Speaker 4: can do that now.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Claude is so good at it that when when
Speaker 1: you are wrong about something or barking up the wrong tree,
Speaker 1: or really really going to a place that you shouldn't
Speaker 1: go to, you're you're just you're just wrong about something.
Speaker 1: Claude will come back to you and tell you that,
Speaker 1: but in the nicest way that you have ever been corrected.
Speaker 1: So he calls it pushback. So those are really good words. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm going to have to push back on that and
Speaker 1: then he tells you exactly why and boom, he has
Speaker 1: shut you down because you were just dead wrong about whatever.
Speaker 1: And he said, but he does it in the nicest way,
Speaker 1: and it's so logical it doesn't hurt your feeling.
Speaker 4: Can you just talk to somebody about about your day, coach?
Speaker 4: A lot of people want, like, I have the roughest day,
Speaker 4: and it will talk back and say, tell me.
Speaker 3: About your day, yeah, Cloudewell.
Speaker 2: Very interesting.
Speaker 3: Well he might, but he might.
Speaker 1: He might ask you something like, you know, why why
Speaker 1: are you you know so? So I'm sorry you had
Speaker 1: a bad day. Tell me why was this significant to you?
Speaker 1: What were you trying to accomplish or what were you
Speaker 1: hoping it would be like? Or how did this? You
Speaker 1: know what what went wrong? Because of your day was bad?
Speaker 1: So it'll ask you more things like that so they
Speaker 1: can draw draw out more information so that it knows
Speaker 1: Are you looking for advice for, you know, something that
Speaker 1: happened at work? Are you looking for advice for a
Speaker 1: personal relationship, a miscommunication?
Speaker 3: Something?
Speaker 2: How good or bad? Or how close are we or
Speaker 2: how big a danger is it?
Speaker 1: Ai therapy oh Ai does therapy.
Speaker 2: Is sorry therapist in my life okay.
Speaker 1: Well I'll give you know, I'll give you an example
Speaker 1: I had. I had a I asked a question of
Speaker 1: both Claude and and chat GPT. I asked them both
Speaker 1: the same question, and I was actually working on an edit,
Speaker 1: and I said, if I send this over to you,
Speaker 1: could you please you know, trans could you could you
Speaker 1: please write write me kind of like what you were
Speaker 1: talking about? Could you please write me a title and
Speaker 1: a description? And they both said yes. Claude said, yes,
Speaker 1: of course, I'd be happy to send it on over
Speaker 1: and I will listen to it and send you back
Speaker 1: a title and a description. Claude and AI, excuse me,
Speaker 1: chat GPT responded to me in almost exactly the same way. Yes,
Speaker 1: I can listen to it. And I was very clear
Speaker 1: about asking can you listen to it? And so then
Speaker 1: I uploaded an audio file and then they both came
Speaker 1: back to me and said, the same thing.
Speaker 3: Ah, I'm really I know.
Speaker 1: I said that I could listen to it, and I
Speaker 1: was wrong about that. I cannot actually listen. You must
Speaker 1: send me a transcript. And if you can send me
Speaker 1: a transcript, I will write that title and description for you.
Speaker 1: And so I was really surprised that they both said
Speaker 1: yes even though they couldn't, and they knew in air
Speaker 1: quotes that they couldn't.
Speaker 3: They know they don't want to be wrong.
Speaker 1: So here's another tip. You have to say, it's okay.
Speaker 1: If you don't know, it's okay. If you can't do this,
Speaker 1: it's okay. If this answer is it cannot be found.
Speaker 1: You know, please don't make something up. It's called hallucinating you.
Speaker 1: But you have to tell your AI to please don't hallucinate.
Speaker 1: Please don't make anything up. It's okay if you don't
Speaker 1: know or can't find the answer to this.
Speaker 2: That's another thing.
Speaker 4: So all of us have trouble interpretating, interpretating, Oh like that,
Speaker 4: take that AI interpreting tone in texts. A lot of
Speaker 4: things can be misunderstood, and so I think the AI
Speaker 4: cannot understand. You can't just feed in do you think
Speaker 4: my girlfriend is mad at me?
Speaker 2: She said this and get an answer.
Speaker 1: Well, this is where the differences in AI, you know,
Speaker 1: really really become become evident. I mean, Claude will ask
Speaker 1: you more about it. Claude will ask you questions that
Speaker 1: you that had nothing to do with the question that
Speaker 1: your your question to Claude is just an opener. My
Speaker 1: girlfriend said this to me?
Speaker 3: Is she mad at me?
Speaker 1: And Claude will say, oh gosh, I'm so sorry that
Speaker 1: you that you've had an uncomfortable communication with your girlfriend.
Speaker 1: You know, tell me more what what preceded this? I mean,
Speaker 1: Claude will actually do that. Chat GPT might not do that.
Speaker 3: Sorry, chat GPT. It was very good.
Speaker 4: And this is not an advertisement for Claude saying you're
Speaker 4: familiar with it. But would Claude say, dun't that bitch?
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know if Claude do they swear?
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't swear at Claude, and so Claude I don't know,
Speaker 1: but you know, I mean, that's a good question.
Speaker 2: And I Alexa swear at you?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 1: But but you know one thing that they are doing.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a company, the number one top company.
Speaker 1: It's all over the news. So you you probably know this.
Speaker 1: Everyone listening, I'm sure probably already knows this. But the
Speaker 1: company that makes Claude is called Anthropic, and Anthropic is
Speaker 1: is the company whose mission it is to to make
Speaker 1: sure that AI is moral to make sure that it
Speaker 1: does the right thing and goes in the right direction.
Speaker 1: And and you know now they were also recently hacked,
Speaker 1: so that doesn't mean that they're above, you know, or
Speaker 1: or immune to things happening even to them. But their
Speaker 1: mission is for m is for a claud to be benevolent,
Speaker 1: and that's why they keep fixing it and fixing it.
Speaker 1: And there are people on staff and that's their job
Speaker 1: all day long, every single day, is to help create
Speaker 1: this benevolent you know, helper.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: The issue is the more.
Speaker 4: Realistic and the more case studies and the more things
Speaker 4: that are getting there, the more you're going to get
Speaker 4: into chat Ebt line to me, Chat Gibt didn't do
Speaker 4: the work, Chatch like it's going to be realistic.
Speaker 2: I have we are here in the desert.
Speaker 4: You know, ninety percent of you guys, because of where
Speaker 4: you live, have probably not taken a weimo.
Speaker 2: Do you know what a weimo is?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Weimo is a driverless uber. Okay. It freaks me out,
Speaker 2: not that it's going to crash.
Speaker 4: It freaks me out that there's eight people in a
Speaker 4: room somewhere watching me on cameras while I'm sitting in
Speaker 4: the backseat of this car.
Speaker 3: You better. I hope there's eight people in it.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not afraid of it.
Speaker 4: So when you get in the car, your instinct is
Speaker 4: to be like, thank you, right here, let me out
Speaker 4: or whatever. Like it just does its thing and you
Speaker 4: are trusting it to intuitively know better than you, no
Speaker 4: better to.
Speaker 2: Pick you up. But it's a freaky experience to get
Speaker 2: in this.
Speaker 4: Again, if you're listening to this in twenty thirty four,
Speaker 4: you'll be like, there were drivers in something called uber
Speaker 4: and it might seem nuts, But right now it's a
Speaker 4: little alarming when you are being driven around by a
Speaker 4: driverless car. Now we might be on driverless area, you know,
Speaker 4: Pilots might not be flying airplanes, Trains are probably not
Speaker 4: being like it probably happens more often than we're used
Speaker 4: to that nobody's in control of this thing. But when
Speaker 4: you get in there, it is programmed all of this information.
Speaker 4: Drivers habits millions of things. That's what I'm saying. Bring
Speaker 4: it back to the dating thing. Probably is a better
Speaker 4: early stage dater than you. It probably is a better
Speaker 4: communicator when there's a fight than you. It probably is
Speaker 4: a lot of things, but you're taking the emotion out
Speaker 4: of it, and the emotion is drives good decisions and bad.
Speaker 1: You can't take your own emotion out of it, is
Speaker 1: the point I think in that, and especially anything with love,
Speaker 1: dating and relationships.
Speaker 3: I mean you, I think if.
Speaker 1: You really are tongue tight er, you really just don't
Speaker 1: know what to do and.
Speaker 3: You want some input.
Speaker 1: It can't hurt to do that, but you have to
Speaker 1: keep remembering that you're the one in charge that yes,
Speaker 1: it can be wrong, but like anything else, there used
Speaker 1: to be these little books called I think they were
Speaker 1: called spark starts or something like that. So if you
Speaker 1: were a writer and you wanted to write something and
Speaker 1: you just had a writer's block, you could open up
Speaker 1: one of these little books called spark starts and it
Speaker 1: would give you some words or a thought or something
Speaker 1: like that that you could springboard from. And that's the
Speaker 1: whole point with AI. I think you have to realize
Speaker 1: that it's something for you to springboard from. If you
Speaker 1: let it become you, then there's no more you. So
Speaker 1: don't lead to your own demise, is the moral of
Speaker 1: that story.
Speaker 4: Well, what if my I'm in my devise and I've
Speaker 4: had two hundred first dates and army second dates or whatever.
Speaker 4: Can I say, here's what I've done on my last
Speaker 4: five dates. Tell me what I can do differently or better,
Speaker 4: and it might shoot me out, like go to top golf.
Speaker 3: You know it might do that.
Speaker 1: But you know, once again, different ais I have been
Speaker 1: designed for different purposes.
Speaker 2: I would want the most ass kissy AI. Which one
Speaker 2: is that?
Speaker 4: The one who just tells me I'm amazing, you're doing
Speaker 4: everything right, your girlfriend's wrong.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's one that does that, but
Speaker 1: I can tell you that the one that asks you
Speaker 1: questions that.
Speaker 3: I'll give you.
Speaker 1: I'll give you an example that is very very similar
Speaker 1: to what you're asking I I want am planning to
Speaker 1: do a hike in twenty twenty six. That's called the
Speaker 1: Communo de Santiago. It's in Spain, and it's a pilgrim
Speaker 1: midge hike, and there are a number of different routes
Speaker 1: that you can take. Some of them are like two
Speaker 1: months long. Yes, there are people, I guess they must
Speaker 1: be retired people or something, but they can take off
Speaker 1: that long. You can go for as little as I
Speaker 1: think six days, and to get the compostella, which is
Speaker 1: the certificate at the end that says that you completed
Speaker 1: the pilgrimage. You only have to go the last sixty kilometers.
Speaker 1: So I've been following a lot of blogs and googling
Speaker 1: quite a lot of information about that because I don't
Speaker 1: want to go on hills that are too steep. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be there when it's too cold. I
Speaker 1: don't want to go too far. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be walking over too many rocks. I don't want it
Speaker 1: to be dangerous. I don't want to have to cross
Speaker 1: a freeway. I mean, I have I have requirements for what.
Speaker 3: I want to do.
Speaker 2: I need a clean sixty kilometers.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Once again, I hear an air quotes, I'd say, I'm
Speaker 1: calling it a hike, but I'm asking for a very
Speaker 1: sort of city girl hike.
Speaker 3: And so I went on Claude.
Speaker 1: And I said, hey, Claude, there's a lot of very uh,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot there's a lot of information
Speaker 1: about this this hike out there, and and all of
Speaker 1: it is is very personalized. You know, people say, oh,
Speaker 1: the weather is good. Well, what's good to one person
Speaker 1: isn't good to another one.
Speaker 4: So some people want to run a marathon at twenty
Speaker 4: five grae exactly.
Speaker 1: So it's so there there there's a lot of information
Speaker 1: out there that is so personal to the person that's
Speaker 1: written it.
Speaker 3: I have no idea if me and them are.
Speaker 1: The same, So I said, I said, Claude, can you
Speaker 1: kind of can you boil down all these you know,
Speaker 1: blogs and articles and things that are out there about
Speaker 1: this hike and tell me which is going to be,
Speaker 1: you know, the shortest route that's not too difficult, where
Speaker 1: I can still get the certificate at the end. And
Speaker 1: I tell you, Brian Howie, that is all I asked, Claude.
Speaker 1: Claude comes back to me and says, Keko, I am
Speaker 1: so excited that you're going to embark on this life
Speaker 1: changing pilgrimage.
Speaker 3: He didn't call it a hike. I called it a
Speaker 3: high right, Okay.
Speaker 1: He comes back to me and he says, is life
Speaker 1: changing pilgrimage. The experience of this is something that you
Speaker 1: cannot duplicate in any other way.
Speaker 3: There are so.
Speaker 1: Many must see towns and things that you will see
Speaker 1: along the way.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: It is something that I'm so excited that you're going
Speaker 1: to do. Let me ask you a few questions. So
Speaker 1: He proceeds to ask me some questions, and that's when
Speaker 1: I give him my parameters.
Speaker 3: I don't want it too high, I want it too low.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: He comes back to me and he says, well, Goldilocks,
Speaker 1: I have a couple of suggestions for you.
Speaker 3: Oh so he called me Goldilocks. Uh okay.
Speaker 1: And then on top of that again, remember only asked
Speaker 1: for was the shortest route that's not too hard, and
Speaker 1: whether that is under seventy degrees. That's it, that's the
Speaker 1: only's that was my question. He ends up asking me
Speaker 1: all this stuff and gives me a budget, tells me
Speaker 1: where to stay, tells me what to do with the luggage,
Speaker 1: tells me there are some towns that I don't want
Speaker 1: to miss, and that I can take public transportation for
Speaker 1: part of the trip to shorten it up. So I'm
Speaker 1: not walking as far as long as I do that
Speaker 1: last sixty kilometers. So he gives me these these this
Speaker 1: cheat sheet on how to Seymour of Spain.
Speaker 3: Right, but still but do a shorter trip. I mean
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 1: And then he and then he goes into my shoes
Speaker 1: and what kind of shoes are you wearing?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well, so this is what I'm talking about having to
Speaker 1: moral this. Well, look, so just to finish that up,
Speaker 1: my moral of this story is that that's an example
Speaker 1: of a good assistant. That's an example of someone that
Speaker 1: is improving my life.
Speaker 3: And saving me time.
Speaker 1: It might have taken me months to come up with
Speaker 1: this if.
Speaker 2: I I'm getting the opposite out of this dating. We
Speaker 2: all want just the certificate without with the least path
Speaker 2: of resistance.
Speaker 4: And what the smarter version of us is telling us
Speaker 4: is enjoy the collar, enjoy the journey, find stop and
Speaker 4: smell the roses. All that, and don't be so focused
Speaker 4: on the certificate. Be focused on the journey.
Speaker 2: Got it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's actually what Claude was telling me too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't focus on the certificate. You need to know that
Speaker 1: this is an amazing life changing journey, so don't miss it.
Speaker 4: That being said, you know, whether it's dating or the hike,
Speaker 4: the pilgrimage, the right shoes matter.
Speaker 3: The right shoes do matter matter?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 4: Again, this is fun. I like doing this. This is
Speaker 4: probably really quaint. If you're listening to this five years
Speaker 4: from now. I was like, oh, that's so cute. They
Speaker 4: tried to figure out how to use this. People still
Speaker 4: date human beings? Is that interesting?
Speaker 1: Learn how to use AI and also learn how to date.
Speaker 4: And force your way offline because for all you know,
Speaker 4: you've been going back and forth with some uh with
Speaker 4: groc for a long time.
Speaker 3: Use it as a springboard.
Speaker 1: Don't use it instead of you, don't lose you.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is fun.
Speaker 3: It was fun.
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