WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:08.759 This is Pod Popular Podcast for the People, The. 2 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:14.080 Great Love Debate. It's the Great Love Debate, the Great 3 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:15.080 Love Debate. 4 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:17.559 It's a great love to base. 5 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:18.359 Hi, get it? 6 00:00:18.399 --> 00:00:21.839 What's Brian Howie? Welcome to The Great Love Debate, the 7 00:00:21.879 --> 00:00:25.719 world's number one dating and relationship podcast since twenty fifteen. 8 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:29.879 I am near the very fine studios of Pod Popular 9 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:33.439 Podcasts for the people. I'm near the one in Scottsdale, Arizona. 10 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:35.880 The one reason I'm not in the one in Scottsdale's 11 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:38.920 Arizona is because it's being renovated to give you an 12 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:43.439 elevated media experience. As the new sign says, I want 13 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:47.759 to take on something that's complicated. We've touched on it 14 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:51.320 a few times over the years on this podcast, and 15 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:55.079 I think it's here. So about ten years ago when 16 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:58.640 we first started this show, we had Doctor Drew on 17 00:00:58.840 --> 00:01:01.960 our podcast, and Doctor Drew told us at that time 18 00:01:02.039 --> 00:01:06.480 that the coming storm in Flora's love dating relationships was 19 00:01:06.519 --> 00:01:12.239 that within ten years we're here now, somebody's going to 20 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:15.519 be able to put on a helmet dial up somebody 21 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:21.000 who looks just like Sidney Sweeney, Channing Tatum, whatever your 22 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:24.280 flavor is, that person's going to talk to them giving 23 00:01:24.359 --> 00:01:29.480 me reasonably satisfying relationship experience. And I think he underestimated 24 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:34.239 by saying the words reasonably satisfying, because I think we're here. 25 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:36.200 And so I had to bring in a pro on this. 26 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:40.200 Not that she's a pro on a reasonably satisfying relationship experience, 27 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:43.280 but she knows a little bit about this. I mentioned 28 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:46.560 it on a couple episodes ago. I mentioned that she 29 00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:51.359 had developed a relationship with Ai, and I asked her 30 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:54.280 if it bothered me, saying that She's like, no, not 31 00:01:54.359 --> 00:01:56.040 at all. She was actually kind of proud of it. 32 00:01:56.200 --> 00:01:58.200 I'm bringing her back. She's the smartest person I know. 33 00:01:58.280 --> 00:02:00.680 She's the longtime producer of this by she has not 34 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:04.319 been on this show since the five hundredth episode, so 35 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:06.959 count backwards on how many episodes that is ago, it's 36 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:09.840 been too long, not as always, but as preferred the 37 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:12.159 two time Emmy Award winning Keko. 38 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:15.120 Wait a minute, I haven't been on since the five 39 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:15.840 hundredth Well. 40 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:19.319 Let's try this again. The two time Emmy Award winning Keko. Hey, Hey, 41 00:02:19.560 --> 00:02:20.000 there you go. 42 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:21.840 That's how long it's been. She forgot to do her 43 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:24.199 little thing. I don't think you've been on since the 44 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:27.919 five hundredth Welcome Back. So I referenced you a couple 45 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:30.560 episodes ago, and I go, I think my producer has 46 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:34.159 a relationship with somebody named Claude, And you said, yeah, 47 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:36.840 I'm fine with that. Explain your relationship with Claude. 48 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:40.680 Okay, so anybody who uses Claude has a relationship with Claude. 49 00:02:40.719 --> 00:02:43.599 Just to be clear, I don't have some weird ass 50 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:48.000 relationship with some AI being of some that's not it. 51 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:50.599 But AI. 52 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:55.919 Is something that is here, as you just said, and 53 00:02:56.240 --> 00:02:58.800 something that we really do need to get used to 54 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:00.599 being in. 55 00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:02.400 Our lives and learn how to use. 56 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:07.120 About a month ago, I was listening to Jensen Wang, 57 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:12.719 the CEO of Navidia, and somebody who was interviewing him 58 00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:14.719 or at least threw out a question at him, you know, 59 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:17.599 what's AI going to do to jobs? And he said, 60 00:03:18.280 --> 00:03:21.199 you're not going to lose your job to AI. You're 61 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:23.400 going to lose your job to someone who knows how 62 00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:28.319 to use AI. And I believe that that is the thing. 63 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:31.719 I believe that that's what it is. And once you 64 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:36.960 learn how useful AI can be in your life, it's 65 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:41.439 like having an assistant who never makes mistakes, never needs 66 00:03:41.479 --> 00:03:44.879 a day off, never gets tired, never has issues. It's 67 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:49.120 like having an assistant to do things for you. That's 68 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:52.719 a better researcher than a person that you could hire, 69 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:53.800 and it. 70 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:55.120 Just makes your life easier. 71 00:03:55.280 --> 00:03:59.879 And basically it helps you do more work faster, And 72 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:02.919 that's why I use it. 73 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:03.879 And there are many. 74 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:06.639 Ways in your life to use it in that way 75 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:07.800 to do more faster. 76 00:04:08.240 --> 00:04:10.039 I think you're right on that. I think you can 77 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:12.280 use it. The danger is it and I don't even 78 00:04:12.280 --> 00:04:13.680 know if it's a danger. It might be a good thing, 79 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:17.120 so scratch that danger might be wrong. I believe there 80 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:24.639 are people out there who are communicating with potential dates, partners, 81 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:29.480 how do I respond to this person and using AI 82 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:33.079 to communicate. I know there are people I know, colleagues, 83 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:35.399 people who work for me, whoever, who are answering my 84 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:39.160 texts using AI. I think people are doing their own 85 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:43.560 little Serranodberger act thing where they're saying, what should I 86 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:45.240 say to this guy who said this to me? 87 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:48.000 And so you may not be getting. 88 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:51.000 An authentic version of them until you are face to face, 89 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:54.160 And again you might not ever get an authentic version 90 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:55.759 to your face to face and maybe that's a good thing. 91 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:57.879 It forces you to get to know people face to face. 92 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:00.680 But they might say, what do I say this girl 93 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:03.879 who says she likes this? And you feed that through 94 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:07.480 Grock or Claude or CHATCHYBT or whatever, and you're going 95 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:10.800 to spit out something that the overwhelming majority people are 96 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:12.879 going to like because AI has done that work for you. 97 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:16.560 Yeah, and what you have done is give given a 98 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:22.160 perfect example of what not to do with AI. That is, 99 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:25.959 specifically what you don't want to do. Here's another example. 100 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:27.040 Well, why don't you want to do that? 101 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:30.279 Well, you don't want to do that because then you 102 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:35.639 lose your voice. So then you are, in essence responsible 103 00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:37.000 for your own demise. 104 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:41.519 What you need good good, You should be responsible for 105 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:43.040 your own devid So what. 106 00:05:42.959 --> 00:05:45.759 You want to do is you want to this is 107 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:48.639 this is again the way I said, we all need 108 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:51.839 to learn how to use it. If you don't learn 109 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:53.480 how to use AI, AI. 110 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:55.680 Will learn how to use you. And those are my words, 111 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:56.519 it's nobody else's. 112 00:05:56.519 --> 00:05:57.439 It's pretty good, okay. 113 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:01.439 And the example that you just gave, it's just like 114 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:04.480 and we've all done this. When you write a letter, 115 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:07.639 whether it's a cover letter for a job or something 116 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:10.120 like that, and you're using word all of a sudden, 117 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:12.279 up off to the side, you have a little thing 118 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:12.720 pop up. 119 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:15.279 This is copilot, and you're like, what is that co 120 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:15.959 pilot thing? 121 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:18.959 And then you click on that, and what you learn 122 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:22.040 is that what you find out is that co pilot 123 00:06:22.360 --> 00:06:28.079 can rewrite or revise or refine the letter or whatever 124 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:31.920 document that you've been working on in some really nice ways, 125 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:37.040 does a pretty darn good job. The problem with that, however, 126 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:39.480 if you leave it like that, if you leave it 127 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:42.800 in the AI voice, is that then it no longer 128 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:47.120 sounds like you. There are two problems with that. One 129 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:50.319 is that it doesn't sound like you, so then who 130 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:52.199 are you? And you lose track of you and other 131 00:06:52.240 --> 00:06:55.560 people lose track of you as well. The other is 132 00:06:55.600 --> 00:06:59.040 that if it is something like a job interview or 133 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:03.560 in the dating profiles and things like you're talking about, 134 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:08.279 then I think what happens is that is that they 135 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:11.759 not only don't get to know you, but you don't 136 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:13.079 get to know you either. 137 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:15.959 Well, you're right on that too. 138 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:18.879 And if you're listening to this in twenty forty five 139 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:20.480 and they're gonna go, oh, it's so quaint. The way 140 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:22.399 they were talking about these things back in the day. 141 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:28.519 Could you say using AI and I've never used AI, 142 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:31.360 and I'm sure in twenty thirty four that will have changed. 143 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:35.120 Knowingly I should check that. Maybe knowingly I've never used DAI, 144 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:39.439 I probably have. If I put into AI, tell me 145 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:44.759 some things that girls like to hear, AI will give 146 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:47.680 me some things that ninety five percent of guys might 147 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:50.680 not know. I know because I do this, but a 148 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:54.720 lot of guys wouldn't know. Can AI help them? You're 149 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:58.360 saying you're you're likning and I'm likning dating to a 150 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:02.000 job interview, and I'm dating your profiles essentially a resume, 151 00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:03.920 and you're trying to get an interview, you're trying to 152 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:06.519 get an audition, you're trying to get whatever. Could I say, 153 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:10.600 what are the things that men are interested in these days? 154 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:13.160 Not only just put it in your profile, but put 155 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:16.920 it in your verbiage. Isn't that a good use of 156 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:20.000 AI if you're ultimately just trying to make connections? 157 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:22.040 Not if you leave it that way. 158 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:26.040 If you let AI give you those prompts or write 159 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:29.199 that copy that text for you and you just leave 160 00:08:29.240 --> 00:08:32.679 it like that, then what happens is that AI ends 161 00:08:32.759 --> 00:08:36.480 up talking to AI again, comparing it to a job interview. 162 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:39.000 Guess who's reading over those cover letters? 163 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:44.320 AI and AI can tell if your cover letter was 164 00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:48.360 written by AI. It can, yes, And this is why 165 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:51.919 you don't want to do that, because you'll be immediately eliminated. 166 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:53.559 Well, I don't, as you should be. 167 00:08:53.720 --> 00:08:55.840 I write you see all the titles and descriptions for 168 00:08:55.879 --> 00:08:58.240 the episodes of this podcast, including this one. I write 169 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:00.799 them all myself. If I put it through a it's 170 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:02.000 really close. 171 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:03.840 Oh darn good, it's true. 172 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:05.720 I know which bothers me. 173 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:08.519 I have a very expensive English degree that has seemingly wasted, 174 00:09:08.799 --> 00:09:09.600 and I know my thing. 175 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:10.840 But so AI is a little girl. 176 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:12.720 When you guys, when you guys, if you were listening 177 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:14.799 to this on Spotify or Apple right now, you look 178 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:17.519 through and you see all those chapters. That's AI. I'm 179 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:19.960 not creating chapters. I don't want there to be chapters. 180 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:21.919 I want you to not know what's coming up on 181 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:26.799 this podcast. So AI, you're saying that that it doesn't 182 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:29.679 know me, or it doesn't know I don't know. If 183 00:09:29.720 --> 00:09:33.200 I'm sitting there and I'm like, I can't get any dates. 184 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:36.320 Guys don't like me, girls don't like me. Whatever it is, 185 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:39.639 let me have AI get me to the point where 186 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:40.600 I get on a date. 187 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:42.039 I don't know. 188 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:45.679 I don't know about that either. With your writing of 189 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:47.120 your of your. 190 00:09:47.159 --> 00:09:51.000 Episode descriptions and all of that, that's an example of 191 00:09:51.039 --> 00:09:53.279 a good use of AI. And I think you can 192 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:55.480 just put that right in there, out there, whatever, and 193 00:09:55.519 --> 00:09:58.879 that is like having an assistant. Now now let's go 194 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:02.799 now back to the dating part of that. Yeah, if 195 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:08.120 it's your little Sereno de Bergerac, you know, google. 196 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:09.559 It if you don't understand, And I'm not going to 197 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:11.559 tell you how to write the spell de Bergerac. 198 00:10:12.879 --> 00:10:15.320 If you're just you know, if you're using it because 199 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:19.759 you're nervous, your tongue tied, you you know, don't know. 200 00:10:19.919 --> 00:10:20.840 You really don't know. 201 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:23.879 You've blown it so many times, or maybe you've been 202 00:10:23.960 --> 00:10:26.159 out of it for a while and you just you 203 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:27.320 really just don't. 204 00:10:27.039 --> 00:10:29.799 Have the words. I mean, why not? Why not? 205 00:10:29.919 --> 00:10:32.759 I think I'm not saying don't use it, but I'm saying, 206 00:10:32.759 --> 00:10:35.600 don't leave it there, don't let it be the voice 207 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:37.679 instead of your own. So what you do is you 208 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:40.240 go in and you rewrite it in your own voice. 209 00:10:40.919 --> 00:10:43.039 So well, if I typed in, right, and we should 210 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:43.879 have done this in real time. 211 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:44.480 I didn't think of this. 212 00:10:44.679 --> 00:10:47.320 But if we typed in real time on rock or 213 00:10:47.320 --> 00:10:49.759 Claude or chat GBD, if we wrote in there. 214 00:10:51.080 --> 00:10:56.120 Is his name Claude, the yeah anthropolouds AI, could you 215 00:10:56.200 --> 00:10:59.480 create a really good dating profile for me? 216 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:01.960 Like this, this and this and I'm looking for this this. 217 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:05.039 Could you write that up for me? It could write. 218 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:08.320 In one second, literally in one second maybe two seconds. 219 00:11:08.360 --> 00:11:08.679 Okay? 220 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:13.440 Is that a bad thing if you because a lot 221 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:15.399 of you people listen to me or are asking us 222 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:17.200 how to do a drating profile, and we're really good 223 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:18.360 at it, are we? AI? 224 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:20.519 Is it way different? Is that a bad thing? 225 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:21.159 Okay? 226 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:25.200 Not to make this a commercial for Claude, but different 227 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:29.200 ais are different. Not only are there two different kinds 228 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:32.720 of a of AI. So like one kind, for example, 229 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:36.840 is called generative, and that's something that you use for 230 00:11:36.919 --> 00:11:42.639 creating text for and you know, diagrams and things like that. 231 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:47.360 So it's basically performing a function for you. But the 232 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:52.559 agentic AI, that's the one that essentially and I'm doing 233 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:57.080 air quotes here, is able to think, right, It's intuitive. 234 00:11:57.559 --> 00:12:01.879 You can have a conversation with it. It's quite uncanny 235 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:08.240 how personable it is. And Claude is the most personable 236 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:11.799 of the ais. I have used a number of them 237 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:15.559 for different purposes. They do all have different purposes. The 238 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:18.759 one that you are talking about, you know, can you 239 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:20.200 help me with my dating profile? 240 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:21.960 Claude would be giddy about that. 241 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:26.720 Claude would Claude has such a good personality that he 242 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:27.840 slash it. 243 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:28.960 Whatever it is. 244 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:32.919 Claude would come back to you and say, why, Brian, 245 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:36.720 I would love to help you write a dating profile, 246 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:40.240 Tell me more. And he would then ask you questions. 247 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:43.080 Do you like to travel? Have you been here? What 248 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:45.720 do you like about this? What lights your fire? What 249 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:49.159 lights you up? What do you do in this situation? 250 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:54.440 Is that any different than hiring a dating coach or 251 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:57.799 listening to the Great Love Debate? Is that any different? 252 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:04.600 Are you just getting some tips, tricks, advice, assistance information 253 00:13:04.919 --> 00:13:07.919 that can help you do it better? And I'm not 254 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:10.039 sure it's a bad thing. We're gonna touch on that. 255 00:13:10.120 --> 00:13:11.919 I got a lot of questions. I have the two 256 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:15.039 time emmyward winning Keko back, not as always but as preferred. 257 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:16.519 We have to take a quick break and when you 258 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:18.440 listen to the ad that's going to drop into your phone. 259 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:20.679 AI is choosing which one you get. We will be 260 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:27.360 back right after this, and we are back, and so 261 00:13:27.480 --> 00:13:29.799 I you know, I don't think it's a bad thing, 262 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:33.639 but if you are relying on it, at some point, 263 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:35.799 you're gonna have to, as we say, get your head 264 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:37.440 out of your apps. You're gonna have to put your 265 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:40.519 phone down. This is not like Google Translate, where you're 266 00:13:40.559 --> 00:13:43.039 gonna be talking and tell it to say. If you 267 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:46.759 think that you really needed this tool to get to 268 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:49.080 a certain point of date, that's fine. If you don't 269 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:51.519 know what to say, if you are communicating with the 270 00:13:51.559 --> 00:13:55.080 other person, meaning once you get a connection and saying 271 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:56.360 what do I say to this guy? What do I 272 00:13:56.399 --> 00:13:58.960 say to this girl, You're doomed. And so you better 273 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:02.519 work on your confident. The confidence will improve your social skills, 274 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:04.879 it will improve your verbiage. Go out, as we say 275 00:14:04.879 --> 00:14:07.960 a million times, and start having conversations with strangers, because 276 00:14:08.120 --> 00:14:11.120 at some point, Grock Claude, any of these people, they're 277 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:13.559 going to throw you over the board without a life wrap. 278 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:14.919 And you're going to figure that out. 279 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:17.080 Yes, that is absolutely true. 280 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:18.759 I'm a professional interviewer. 281 00:14:19.720 --> 00:14:24.159 I started to thread a conversation with Claude, and I 282 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:27.639 asked Claude if I could interview him, and so of 283 00:14:27.639 --> 00:14:31.399 course he came back to me and said, why, Keko, 284 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:35.519 I would be honored to have you interview me fire away. 285 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:37.000 What would you like to know? 286 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.840 And we had this very lively, amazing conversation that I 287 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:42.879 do go back to. 288 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:45.279 And here here are a couple problems. 289 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:47.879 In answer to your question, you know, how is this 290 00:14:47.960 --> 00:14:52.360 better different than working with a live coach. For one thing, Claude, 291 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:55.639 they're only Claude, and all of them I'm sure are 292 00:14:55.679 --> 00:15:00.519 only programmed through a certain time period. So for example, 293 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:05.080 Claude only knows stuff until January twenty twenty five. As 294 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:10.120 far as what's it's holding internally, for you to get 295 00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:13.279 information after January twenty twenty five, you would. 296 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:14.840 Have to know that it can't reference. 297 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:17.399 Yes, it can, but that's what I'm trying to explain. 298 00:15:17.679 --> 00:15:20.559 If you, if you want something that's very current, like 299 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:23.919 what's going on today, you would have to say, Claude, 300 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:27.799 please research up to today's date and tell me such 301 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:30.679 and such, because if you don't, Claude is only going 302 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:33.279 to give you answers up to January twenty twenty five. 303 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:35.919 Now I know that because as the recording is spot 304 00:15:36.039 --> 00:15:37.120 it is about a year behind. 305 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:42.159 It's about it's it's well as the recording of this podcast, 306 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:43.200 it's about a year behind. 307 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:47.200 So we can't say using second term Trump is an example. 308 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:48.159 It doesn't have that. 309 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:50.000 It doesn't have it internally. 310 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:52.120 So what you have to ask five seconds, you can 311 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:55.399 get it exactly. What it is is the best researcher 312 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:58.720 that you've ever that you could ever possibly imagine. But 313 00:15:58.759 --> 00:16:01.559 you have to ask it to search up to today's date. 314 00:16:01.840 --> 00:16:05.120 So internally it will have up to a certain point, 315 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:07.399 but it will research the world. 316 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:08.399 For you up to today. 317 00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:12.120 Someth that is relatively current. What do girls like a 318 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:15.720 guy to wear on a first date? That's not that current, 319 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:18.240 that could be in a five year window. Oh, that's okay, 320 00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:20.600 And there's nothing wrong with asking that. 321 00:16:20.759 --> 00:16:23.159 No, there's nothing wrong with asking that you better. 322 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:24.960 Have the clothes the cloud spits out for you, or 323 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:25.840 Cross or whoever. 324 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:30.840 Here is the danger of these things, though, and I've 325 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:35.519 seen you in real time. I think, just like we 326 00:16:35.559 --> 00:16:39.159 develop a relationship with our pets, and we assign them personalities, 327 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:42.639 and we assign them in motion, I think somebody could 328 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:45.879 very easily, at the end of the day turn on 329 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:47.919 their computer, turn on their phone or whatever, and have 330 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:52.679 a conversation that is ninety percent is engaging without any 331 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:55.720 of the bad stuff, and you could be reliant on that. 332 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:56.799 We have a. 333 00:16:56.759 --> 00:16:59.639 Podcaster over here at pod Popular Podcasts with the People 334 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:02.960 placed his co host with an Ai co host. He 335 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:05.720 likes the co host better. They have better banter, he 336 00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:08.920 laughs more. He has a relationship with an A. I'm 337 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:10.880 not sure the audience even knows it's any different. 338 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:12.400 It is better, yea. 339 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:15.200 And if you're looking for somebody to say nice things 340 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:18.319 to me, compliment me, answer my questions, give me comfort 341 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:21.519 at the end of the day, Doctor Drew's right, we 342 00:17:21.559 --> 00:17:22.319 can do that now. 343 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:22.799 Yeah. 344 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:25.839 And Claude is so good at it that when when 345 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:28.680 you are wrong about something or barking up the wrong tree, 346 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:32.559 or really really going to a place that you shouldn't 347 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:35.799 go to, you're you're just you're just wrong about something. 348 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:37.599 Claude will come back to you and tell you that, 349 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:40.920 but in the nicest way that you have ever been corrected. 350 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:45.319 So he calls it pushback. So those are really good words. Well, 351 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:47.839 I'm going to have to push back on that and 352 00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:51.480 then he tells you exactly why and boom, he has 353 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:55.319 shut you down because you were just dead wrong about whatever. 354 00:17:55.400 --> 00:17:57.599 And he said, but he does it in the nicest way, 355 00:17:57.920 --> 00:18:00.759 and it's so logical it doesn't hurt your feeling. 356 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:04.480 Can you just talk to somebody about about your day, coach? 357 00:18:04.519 --> 00:18:06.680 A lot of people want, like, I have the roughest day, 358 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:08.920 and it will talk back and say, tell me. 359 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:11.400 About your day, yeah, Cloudewell. 360 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:13.039 Very interesting. 361 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:14.799 Well he might, but he might. 362 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:17.880 He might ask you something like, you know, why why 363 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:20.440 are you you know so? So I'm sorry you had 364 00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:23.079 a bad day. Tell me why was this significant to you? 365 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:25.880 What were you trying to accomplish or what were you 366 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:28.319 hoping it would be like? Or how did this? You 367 00:18:28.359 --> 00:18:31.119 know what what went wrong? Because of your day was bad? 368 00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:33.440 So it'll ask you more things like that so they 369 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:36.279 can draw draw out more information so that it knows 370 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:39.920 Are you looking for advice for, you know, something that 371 00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:42.400 happened at work? Are you looking for advice for a 372 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:44.559 personal relationship, a miscommunication? 373 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:45.480 Something? 374 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:48.640 How good or bad? Or how close are we or 375 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:49.799 how big a danger is it? 376 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:57.119 Ai therapy oh Ai does therapy. 377 00:18:54.279 --> 00:18:57.640 Is sorry therapist in my life okay. 378 00:18:57.400 --> 00:18:59.400 Well I'll give you know, I'll give you an example 379 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:03.880 I had. I had a I asked a question of 380 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:09.720 both Claude and and chat GPT. I asked them both 381 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:14.160 the same question, and I was actually working on an edit, 382 00:19:14.359 --> 00:19:16.920 and I said, if I send this over to you, 383 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:21.119 could you please you know, trans could you could you 384 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:24.759 please write write me kind of like what you were 385 00:19:24.759 --> 00:19:26.359 talking about? Could you please write me a title and 386 00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:31.119 a description? And they both said yes. Claude said, yes, 387 00:19:31.160 --> 00:19:33.400 of course, I'd be happy to send it on over 388 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:36.480 and I will listen to it and send you back 389 00:19:36.839 --> 00:19:40.359 a title and a description. Claude and AI, excuse me, 390 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:45.000 chat GPT responded to me in almost exactly the same way. Yes, 391 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:47.319 I can listen to it. And I was very clear 392 00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:51.599 about asking can you listen to it? And so then 393 00:19:51.920 --> 00:19:55.519 I uploaded an audio file and then they both came 394 00:19:55.559 --> 00:19:58.400 back to me and said, the same thing. 395 00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:01.200 Ah, I'm really I know. 396 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:04.400 I said that I could listen to it, and I 397 00:20:05.079 --> 00:20:08.039 was wrong about that. I cannot actually listen. You must 398 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:10.759 send me a transcript. And if you can send me 399 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:15.759 a transcript, I will write that title and description for you. 400 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:18.480 And so I was really surprised that they both said 401 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:22.480