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Speaker 1: I have my Moonmap shirt.

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Speaker 2: On I resurrected it because the other day I was

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in the chat of Stephen Pokemon from AM Wake Up

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and I was screaming at him like a madman about

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our moon map that he never returned, our topographical map

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of the Moon that we said he could borrow not keep,

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and he since just stopped talking. Guest today, Jay Dyer,

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if we let you to borrow something, dude, you gotta

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give it back. We don't let people have things unless

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you ask nicely.

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Speaker 3: Jay.

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Speaker 2: Before we get into the commerce station, where can everybody

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find your work?

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Speaker 1: What is you all about?

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Speaker 3: You can find my work at my website, mainly Jay's

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nasis dot com that has all the archived content going

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back about ten years, all the lectures, interviews, deep dives

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on global elite text and then you can find me

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on Twitter and Instagram and YouTube under my name Jay Dyer.

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And I'm all about the also right for the Sam

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Hid Show, and I host the fourth Hour, our host

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of the fourth hour of the Alex Youno Show the

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last five or six years. I don't know if I

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will be able to keep doing that, but I'm all

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about geopolitics, comedy, philosophy, film, and that's what I'm all.

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Speaker 2: About you know, you're a busy guy, Jay, and I

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appreciate you making some time for us. And what we're

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here to talk about a very important subject, and that

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is whether or not Hitler was aggressively aggressively. But before

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we even get into that, we have to discuss.

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Speaker 1: Well, wait, I want to know what is going on

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with Alex Jones.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's a good question. He's getting sued for

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billions of dollars. Info Wars is dead. But then I

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look and I still see Info Wars and I see

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you there and all these guys, So what exactly is happening?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So basically it's a long drawn out, you know,

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court battle, and it's three different, I think, three different lawsuits.

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So I think they did finally learn that they won't

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be able to keep the studios, so Alex will continue

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to go. It's just that Info War Studios will eventually

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be seized in the next five days to two weeks.

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So it went all the way to the Supreme Court,

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and the Supreme Court decided that they would not hear it,

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so they just shuck it down as even worthy of hearing,

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so they didn't even look at it. But it did

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at least make it that far up. But people think

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that it's like, oh, how come it's not shut down yet? Well,

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court cases take years, so that's one. Right.

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Speaker 2: It's a long process, a grueling process, and that sucks

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to hear Man because obviously, you know he's built that

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over how long. We were talking to Matt and the

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coffee shop and he was like, dude, I was listening

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to Alex Jones back when he was talking about Moloch

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and he was breaking into brohem I'm sorry, Bohemian grove.

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I'm so used to saying that. But yeah, man, but

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you can't stop Alex. You could take away his stuff,

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and you could take away maybe the area that he

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does it in and YadA YadA, but you can't stop

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Speaker 4: So let's be careful. Let's be really careful talking about

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the guy. I mean, I thought we were past that

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kind of stuff, of like a weird I don't even

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I want to lay the groundwork for this

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because a lot of people are gonna ask themselves why

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are we talking about Hitler? And those people surely are

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not on Twitter, and so I want to kind of

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lay the groundwork and explain to people what has been

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Speaker 1: I was conservatively two years, but certainly more than that.

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Speaker 2: And what's really gained a lot of traction in the

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last year is this sudden appreciation and that's probably putting

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it mildly for Hitler. A lot of things have sort

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of come to light, things that we didn't understand about

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of conclusions about the Nazis, about Hitler, and it's brought

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us to a really weird place culturally lately. And Jay,

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so if you could, can you talk to that a

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little bit? What's going on? Why are we talking about Hitler?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think Kanye had Yea had a huge

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role in kind of popularizing this from a memetic warfare perspective.

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different you know, outlets. I guess you could say that

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kind of made this a talking point in the culture.

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of the algorithm in the last couple of years, to

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a degree which seems to be very selective, has allowed

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for people to start uploading old speeches, et cetera from

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Hitler and Ai speeches and all this, and so these

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reels and clips are just going to kind of going crazy.

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you know, Zionism has a huge level of control over

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our government, lobby apack all that. So that's there's some

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truth to the lockdown, the censorship, you know, the things

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you can't talk about. But then what happens is that

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people tend to then think, oh, if I've been lied to,

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then everything's a lie, right, Oh everything is an illusion,

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everything's and so they get into these sort of really

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extreme polar opposition positions. And that's that's a tactic that

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creatures of extreme so they'll go to the opposite pendlum

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swing and then they'll adopt, Oh, if Zionism is, you know,

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has a huge influence in our government, then the polar

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opposite must be this solution. And there's a lot of

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different nuanced, you know, points and takes that qualify a

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lot of this, and we're going to talk about that

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is popular. And then also I would be suspicious of

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Silicon Valley suddenly allowing these things. And the after narrative is, oh, well,

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they couldn't stop us. We broke containment. It's like, I mean,

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they still censor people. So I'm not sure why you

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think that it's breaking containment. I would be very suspicious that,

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especially since all the people who are the Silicon Valley

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elites that are subservient to people in the Middle East.

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I'm speculating. You know, we had NAPO cybercom operations running

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wild in twenty twenty when the Russian you know, Ukraine

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conflict kicked off and that kind of died down, So

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this might be a new angle on the NAPO operation

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if you're familiar with that.

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Speaker 4: Do you do you think that the Nazi this kind

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of like the Nazi rhetoric, is that the end all

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of of whatever game that we're playing, because it's it's

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it seems like this like a seesaw game that will

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whatever conclusion we are supposed to end up at. And

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bury the lead know this, but when you check out

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the Nazis and you see what they were into, and

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you see how they were incorporated in this government, all

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the esoteric things that they were researching and developing, and

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then you also look at the concerted effort of the

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left to kind of make they've made Nazis. They made

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saying that Nazism is bad almost like synonymous with the

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way that they've made the Bible look corny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you understand what I'm saying. I know what

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you're getting at. It's this idea that they they first

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like no, actually wait a second, guys, these these dudes

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are kind of doing some weird Now. Left, now you're yeah,

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and I feel almost embarrassing. But for the other side,

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it's like when they know that I don't care about

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your booze. I've seen what's what makes you clap? And

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the Left, who's become so despised, and you know by

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the other side calls you a na see it's almost

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like a badge of honor. Now, so there's a lot

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of like cultural priming that led us to this. And

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of like, you know, the algorithms kind of softening.

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Speaker 1: Up and and and.

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Speaker 2: I'm highly suspicious of that because I think it really

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it seems to be at the hand of Elon Musk.

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show a lot. But Top you had this hyper viral

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tweet one time where you post a picture of Joe

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and it says you could either drink Adrina chro you

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can hate the j's which way western man? And Elon

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is mel Gibson really that of these days? Now what

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we're led to believe? And that turns into a whole debacle.

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but it was this really early signifier in my opinion

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that like, hey, we're allowed to talk like this.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's I think it's nefarious.

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he was hoping to affect, or the direction that he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it could also be a way to keep tabs

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on everybody who is dissident and exactly what the numbers are,

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and you know, give people the impression. I'm not saying

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that people shouldn't speak their mind, but you know that

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there were similar types of things going on at the

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time of jade Helm. I don't know if you guys

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remember that, but that was a similar situation where the

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speculation ended up being that the reason that they admitted

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that they were doing all these continuity of government drills.

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are saying online about this idea of you know, civil

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unrest and government reaction programs and drills that were being

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done across multiple states for the possibility of like a

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civil war imminent collapse. And of course all the you

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know patriotard crowd thought, oh do they're coming. They're gonna

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put us in the un camps. And really all it

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were online in mass So you have to understand that

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the military de Pentagon, they watch and study all this

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very intently. And I don't think that you know, anybody

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at that Silicon Valley level, they're not disconnected from that

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Pentagon you know cybercom establishment. They're all tied into the

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same DARPA style, you know, anessay style networks. Now, granted,

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but you still just can't trust these people. You know,

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all these Silicon value leade people are pretty much known

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doesn't really tell us that that they're genuine. They're just

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which is the British version of the NSA, and they

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did a study on meme magic, talking about how you

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can speak to the collective unconscious through these archetypal imagery

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symbols and whatnot. That's kind of a big part of

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what changing images a Man actually talks about in the

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later the later chapters is engineering and co opting cultural

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memes and archetypes and retooling them to give man a

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new world, you in a new paradigm. And so the

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reason I say that is that when you talk about

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Hitler the meme. Now, according to many of the guys

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that called in, we did probably I don't know, fifteen

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hours of calling spaces on this in the last several

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weeks and just call her after caller. Many of them

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note that the history doesn't even matter to them. It's

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just totally a symple divorce from the reality. Remember the

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Sam Hide meme. You know that Sam Hyde has done

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all the mass casualty events and people ask them about that,

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and he's like, yeah, well, the meme actually took on

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a life of its own. It's like it's not even

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connected to me anymore. And in the same way, it's

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a postmodern attitude to where you take a meme, divorce

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it from its history and kind of give it your

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own narrative of your own story. So it's a postmodern

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will to power situation, which actually fits perfectly with Nazism.

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of the Reich. He just kind of made it up

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wholesale and came up with these ideas like positive Christianity,

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which would get rid of all the Old Testament elements.

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version of Christianity for the Reich. So that's what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: That that's a really interesting point because I can see

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one of them is the database aspect, and they're looking

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for extremists and this is for you know, somebody that

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alarmis would say, when the noa Hyde laws finally start

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to be putting effect, they're gonna come for you. They're

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gonna have this backlog of every anti Semitic thing that

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you've said. And here in Florida, you know, we had

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DeSantis passing anti Semitism laws and all these other things.

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and goes, I think the Nazi sympathizing is really the point,

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and that this doesn't end, you know, with a persecution

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of people who are any Semitic ideology, but that this

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ends in this resurrection in some way, shape or form

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of a modern day Nazi movement. And the reason that

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forties early fifties as being the epicenter for the development

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of so many programs that are prevalent today prevalent today,

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and we're seeing kind of the fruits.

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Speaker 1: Like you asked, is this the end all? Be all right?

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Speaker 2: That's what you said earlier top, And it's like it

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kind of feels like we're in a little bit of

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an endgame scenario from stuff that was developed way back

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then when we took a bunch of Nazis out of

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Germany through Operation paper Clip.

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Speaker 4: We're at the culmination of you know, like we're at

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the culmination of what mk Ultra looked to achieve on

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like an individual basis. Now we're doing it nationwide, probably

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worldwide through We're not going to say it here, and

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then shortly after with you know, like uie Geller, and

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also with we've done a bunch of work with on

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injuries you Pouharsh the alien phenomenon that's also coming to

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culmination now. But that all started right at like, you know,

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forty seven, forty eight, and the implementation of it. All

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this stuff is happening right now. So I'm like, is

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are we like fulfilling the Nazi age? Because have these

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guys ever left? Have they been that deeply entrenched in

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our shadow government?

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Speaker 1: Who? Which way are we going?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: What do you think about that Jay muted or something.

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that since they, you know, have been calling everybody Nazi

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for so long, they actually need to create that opposition.

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build up, and then you've got you know, kind of

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an existing pseudo organic movement. One example of this too

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would be prison gangs. If you think about the way

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the prisons are structured, and if you listen to a

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lot of interviews with people that have been in prisons

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and super maxis and whatnot. I did a lot of

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podcasts with Sewan Attwood over the years, and he's always

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telling his Arizona prison stories. Who've done Sammy the Bull

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interviews and he's got a bunch of those two. They

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talk about how it's very segregated and controlled in that

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way when you kind of divide everybody up into the

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sort of tribal camps. And I'm not saying that people

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can have a concern for their ethnicity and their people groups.

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The problem is that when you do this in a polarizing,

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extreme way, you can use this as a technique to

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break down and destroy civilization. So I think that's the

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unfortunate situation that we're at which they put all these

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pressures on the system of purpose to foment civil unrast

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with the Podesta Plan and with you know, shutting off

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my EBT snap cards that kind of stuff, which I'm

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going to be out. We'll be out in the streets

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next week, Dough.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: We actually just through the audience, US and Jay are

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planning on robbing the local Walmart. And so if you

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guys are in the area and you're looking to join, listen, guys,

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if you're not stealing.

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Speaker 3: I'll be sunny books as I want rob the Walmart.

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Speaker 2: If you want to go two birds one stone, you know,

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but go ahead.

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crafting a new image through giving people a new paradigm,

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allowing people to have a new paradigm. And I think

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you're right that I don't think that the the the

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paper Clip faction has totally run everything in our government.

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I think they were a minority faction. They were kind

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of shunted into the GOP for a while. They didn't

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have a lot of power and influence. But there is

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that faction that's there that has a very strict, you know,

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eugenics policy. And I think you could look at this

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as an example that because all the all the people

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in this book, the writers of this they're very influenced

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by Madam Wilvatsi's theosophy, and her theosophy was influential on

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a lot of the SS, you know Reich type leaders

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like Himler. She talks about the root races and the

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next you know, instantiation of an empire, that would be

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the next root race that would have that would evolve.

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that's the Teutonic Knights, you know, the Germanic Teutonic Knights.

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which you mentioned Berner von Braun I think, and paper

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Clip and some of those guys were into the occult.

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But you know, Himmler exploed thought he could do this

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sort of ritual re enactment at different castles and Germany.

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So he actually wasn't a cultist. I don't know that

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they all were. And I'm not really seeing any signific

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evidence that Hitler himself wasn't a cultist. There there might

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be evidence of that, but I mean there's enough in

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mind comf if you've read it that like, obviously it's

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not Christian, that should be obvious.

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is this idea that that Hitler himself was Christian, or

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that he had this uh sympathy for Christianity or or

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Christ himself. Earlier, you said that it's a it's a

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natural thing for an individual to align across like racial

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lines and things.

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Speaker 4: What were the reasons why you'd say that he's not

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a Christian that you've that you've noticed.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's I don't want to bury the lead on that,

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because that's I think is the is the the real

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meat of the discussion that I want to have today,

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because I kind of wanted to try to dispel this,

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this whole hitler and really highlight who he was and

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what he what he believed. But before we go there,

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I'm interested in this of the lead up to this

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cultural phenomenon that we find ourselves in.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: You said that it's natural to sort of align one

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along their own racial lines, right, that that's a natural

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thing and there's nothing wrong with that, but that when

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it's kind of orchestrated within these extreme circumstances, it results

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in really terrible things. Do you think that the suppression

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of that natural urge, that natural inclination was organic, Because

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whether or not it was organic or orchestrated, we certainly

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did go through that, right, Like let's say, white people

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for example, it is you can't express any sort of

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like white power or white alignment. It's very problematic to

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do that. It's okay for other races to do that,

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but then you see this sort of weaponization against white

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people where it's like white people cannot be the recipients

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or the victims of racism, let's say, and they change

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the definitions of racism. There's a lot of changing the definitions,

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changing the language around things in order to justify and also,

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I think, make it so that a baseline station about

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the fundamentals that we're operating in can't happen if you

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change the definitions of everything that we simply can't have

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a discussion because now we're just arguing about what these

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words mean at their root. So from my perspective, it

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looks like that was part of this. You had to

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go through that in order to get to this. What

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do you think, Jay, Is that an organic thing or

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is this just a byproduct? Is this a byproduct of

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an organic event? Or was that an orchestrated thing?

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Speaker 3: No, it's absolutely orchestrated. In fact, I read the Practical

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Idealism by Count Callergy, and Calergy's book was presented to

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the Royal Society, Atlantis's establishment. They said, yes, we'll use

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this in concert with Lionel Curtis's plan for a kind

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of a socialist federation approach to how we would run

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the West. So when you look at Canada and when

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you look at the UK, they're really just about ten

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twenty years ahead of us in this exact same planet

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they have for us in all the West. And that

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includes the web of mass migration, you know, open demographic

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warfare side of it, which proves partly what you're arguing here,

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what you're asking about. The demographic warfare is one hund

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percent real. Clergy's book says that we will basically create

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a giant, homunculous blob of people and only there will

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only be a has he put it a Middle Eastern

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people's supremacy. He says that in the book. Yeah, so

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that was presented. They said, yeah, we'll go with this plan.

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They combined it with other sort of more Fabian socialist

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models of how to integrate the West. And so you

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have to understand Fabian socialism in tandem with this, because

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all the Fabian socials elites said, we've got to get

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rid of the Western white male, especially the Christian white male.

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He's the number one enemy. Bernard Shaw, you know, bertrand Russell,

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they all said this, and they said for the UK

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and Europe import Islam, for the US import you know,

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from south of the border. So they're very explicit. When

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you read these texts. You're not supposed to read these sections.

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I'm supposed to talk about these texts. They're all public,

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they're all you can find the PDFs on you know,

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archive dot org. So it's all very real. That's one

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side of it. And then you're talking about, you know,

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to what degree, all that was organic? It was one

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percent plan and strategized to inculcate critical race theory. DEI

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all the anti white stuff throughout university, throughout the education.

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So in fact, I was told in grad school because

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I wanted to go on and get my PhD. At

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my one of my graduate advisors, my history professor advisor,

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said I'm going to just go ahead and tell you

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that you're a straight white male, you're not gonna be

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welcomed in graduate academia.

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Speaker 2: He was warning or was he saying like this in

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his own opinion, like he thought it was justified.

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Speaker 3: No, he was just saying the realities in the like

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late two thousands of higher level academia. And I'm just

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using that as a test case, right of like the purposeful,

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intentional decision to detegrate and not want in higher level

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graduate academia straight white males, especially in the humanities, right.

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I mean, it might not be the same if you're

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going into stem stuff and engineering computers or whatever. But

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for humanity is like philosophy and that kind of stuff,

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which is what I was studying in literature and history. Uh. No,

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of course they don't. They're very explicit about that. So

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he himself was a a white male, I don't think.

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I'm not sure it was actually straight. So might that

476
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might have been why? That might have been why he

477
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was able to get his pH d. He had to,

478
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you know, touch a few butts or something.

479
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Speaker 1: Oh, you messed up, Jake. Let me let me.

480
00:24:46,839 --> 00:24:51,799
Speaker 3: I'm not touching touch my boughts, but I'm not touching.

481
00:24:52,319 --> 00:24:55,519
Speaker 2: That option for the audience who's listening. No, remember that

482
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,559
we have Ja here in the studio. You know that

483
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,079
close extra actual Remember, I guess is pre show. I

484
00:25:01,079 --> 00:25:03,039
want to ask you something. It's a slight departure. You

485
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,920
mentioned one coin.

486
00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 3: Not bitcoin, one.

487
00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: How much is the butt coin worth these days?

488
00:25:09,599 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 3: Of it one bitcoin?

489
00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 4: So you mentioned the Muslim supremacy supremacy idea, and this

490
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,519
is the thing that I like argue with my mother

491
00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:21,400
about constantly because she's like, have you seen these Look

492
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,400
at what they're doing. They're taking over YadA, YadA, And

493
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,240
I'm just kind of like, I look at it, and

494
00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:28,200
I'm like, they're not really somebody that I like, I

495
00:25:28,279 --> 00:25:29,119
understand the plan.

496
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:29,759
Speaker 1: I'm not so.

497
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 4: Them per se because I think that they're just like

498
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,039
manufactured there there. They seem like a tool of something else.

499
00:25:37,599 --> 00:25:39,920
Certainly is happening. But what do you make of the

500
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,480
propaganda around it that's been ramped up, Like a lot

501
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,119
of this anti Muslim propaganda feels like two thousand and one,

502
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,799
two thousand two exactly.

503
00:25:46,519 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: What I was gonna say.

504
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Speaker 4: It makes me a little worried because after that we

505
00:25:50,599 --> 00:25:53,759
did a twenty year war. What what do you what

506
00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:55,319
are you seeing from your side of things on that?

507
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: On that end, that's a great question. This is really

508
00:25:57,519 --> 00:26:01,319
complex because there's truth and lies mixed up in that

509
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,079
right because I still believe, you know, in that the

510
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,119
Big nine event is not what we were told. So

511
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,960
when you understand kind of the real history of the

512
00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:13,839
Mujahideen and Bin Laden and all that, which I just

513
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,880
lectured through a couple of books on that recently on

514
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,720
my channel, if you want to go deep into the

515
00:26:17,799 --> 00:26:20,799
history and like the CIA relationship between them Massade as well.

516
00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:23,039
But it's not just a CIA. But you know, they

517
00:26:23,079 --> 00:26:27,119
just recently admitted very openly, very candidly that Jolani was

518
00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:32,039
an ally to the CIA and Timber Sycamore especially all

519
00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:33,960
the way up until the overthrow of Asad. That was

520
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,759
all done at the behest of the CIA and Massade

521
00:26:35,799 --> 00:26:39,920
working in tandem, and they welcomed Jilani formerly head of

522
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,839
al Qaeda or al Nusra in Syria. Now he's a

523
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,519
hero again, going back to that long term partnership between

524
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,319
the Mujahidin and the CIA that's still in play today,

525
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,680
and it's very transparent when you actually kind of read

526
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,960
about it. So on the one hand, I can be

527
00:26:55,079 --> 00:26:57,599
nuanced to say, no, I don't accept the official story

528
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,960
of the Big Nine event and what we were told

529
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,519
about the threat of Islam was a lie. However, the

530
00:27:05,559 --> 00:27:09,079
mass importation of these people is the real story, that's

531
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:14,079
the real threat, not because of supposed terror cells everywhere,

532
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,880
but because of the demographic warfare and the Islamic stuff

533
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,000
was more pronounced in the UK and Europe than it

534
00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:24,759
is here. And I've I've been to London. I've seen

535
00:27:24,759 --> 00:27:27,079
it firsthand. Like my wife went to London in two

536
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,200
thousand and like three or four, and then we went

537
00:27:30,279 --> 00:27:34,240
and I gave a lecture in twenty nineteen and she

538
00:27:34,519 --> 00:27:38,960
was describing just how radically, you know, Islama sized it was.

539
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,039
So I don't think it's so much the threat of

540
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,079
the you know, bombs going off or whatever, and a

541
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,680
lot of those are provocateurd you know, entrapment operation, especially

542
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,920
like the you know Christmas bomber or the shoe bomber

543
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:55,240
all that stuff, So that is a controlled narrative, I think.

544
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,720
But the real concern is the demographic replacement. And although

545
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,880
as I said, that was primarily Islam in the UK

546
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,359
and in Europe, well, I'm starting to see more and

547
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:11,599
more Islamic replacement and importation in the West. For example,

548
00:28:11,599 --> 00:28:14,960
in Nashville we had a huge importation of Somali's and

549
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:17,759
Muslims in the last ten years, which never even seen

550
00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:21,240
that in Nashville before. Now you see mocks mosques everywhere

551
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,920
going up, and you can look into Saudi Arabia, Saudi

552
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,279
Arabia in the last This is in Max Lumenthal's book,

553
00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:31,039
who's a big critic of the official narratives, and he's

554
00:28:31,079 --> 00:28:33,440
a socialist, so I have plenty of criticisms of him.

555
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,039
But his book on the Real Use of Islam in

556
00:28:38,079 --> 00:28:41,200
the West is pretty good management of savagery, at least

557
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,119
the first half of the book's really good. But he

558
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,039
points out that the last twenty years, the Saudis have

559
00:28:46,119 --> 00:28:49,200
put billions, something like tens of billions of dollars into

560
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,880
Islamic centers. Is on education and building mosques throughout America.

561
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,519
That's all by designers. When you see these blonde chick

562
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,160
influencers constantly talking about the Kouran dude, that's all paid for.

563
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,680
I'm convinced of that. So it's a real thing. But

564
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,559
it's not the terror thing like they say. But it's

565
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,400
a demographic thing. That's my take on it. And everybody

566
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,839
has to read the Milner Fabian Conspiracy book. It's it's

567
00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:15,440
so good because it's not just about well you will

568
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,079
talk about you just talk about the Fabians. No, it's

569
00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:21,640
all the same thing and they work together with the

570
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,759
anti white crowd because all the Fabians were anti white

571
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:28,079
and utopian socialism that Moses has is the father of.

572
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,359
It's the same thing as Fabian socialis. They're the same.

573
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,119
It's the same as Bolshevism. It's just different strategies about

574
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:35,359
how to roll it out. So and they're very candid

575
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,519
about how to use Islam as a tool. Many people

576
00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:41,680
call it the broom of Zionism or the broom of Judaism,

577
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,000
and that's the best way to put it. And they're

578
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:45,440
both tell mudik. If you watch my long talk with

579
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,640
the Hodge twins. As soon as I got there, they

580
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,880
were like, you think. I'm like, no, it's not beaze.

581
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,240
We thought a child brides. How's that, babe? You don't think.

582
00:29:55,519 --> 00:29:56,240
You don't think.

583
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 4: They can't help because they've been to jail. So it's so,

584
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,720
you know, that's what happens. You go to jail, you

585
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:02,160
come out.

586
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: You're must oh there it is.

587
00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:07,759
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Nancy, I mean literally the thirty minute mark,

588
00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:11,279
she didn't waste a second. Guys, you know, whats uh?

589
00:30:12,039 --> 00:30:15,640
Charles for the three dollars donation says the Tower game

590
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,039
for life.

591
00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is very disrespectful our producer that, like,

592
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,759
we have to keep a job, dude, she knows what

593
00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:21,319
it is.

594
00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 4: Isn't like Nancy is the broom of the nephelindom of.

595
00:30:25,079 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: Getting rid of the white Arian guy on your No,

596
00:30:28,079 --> 00:30:31,119
she's got to get rid of these poors watching.

597
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: Uh, guys, if you want to continue watching Patreon dot

598
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,279
com forward slash FLM death Squad otherwise, gave it a

599
00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:38,319
week or so and this episode will release it in

600
00:30:38,359 --> 00:30:40,839
its entire music. Get these guys and it'll be a

601
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,039
little bit censored on YouTube for certain words, you know,

602
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:46,240
because we're on a trip that algorithm and and have

603
00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:50,119
to take us out, all right, So the Fabians, the Fabians,

604
00:30:50,119 --> 00:30:52,880
my mistake. I want to talk about this idea a

605
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,480
little bit about the Southern border, the poorest southern border,

606
00:30:56,519 --> 00:30:58,599
the legislation that got us there, but I think the

607
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,680
sort of the cultural leveraging that got us or the

608
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,839
cultural manipulation. It seems to me like we were kind

609
00:31:05,839 --> 00:31:10,000
of dog walked down this path to create this poorest

610
00:31:10,079 --> 00:31:13,000
southern border situation so that it could result in exactly

611
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:16,759
what you're describing here, Jay, And now we find ourselves

612
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:18,960
in this place where it's not even just the left,

613
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,599
Like a lot of people are really upset about the

614
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,079
whole ice thing and people getting.

615
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: Deported, and you know, apparently things are getting messy.

616
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: Some people who are actually legal citizens are allegedly getting deported.

617
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,279
I don't know how much truth to that, but what's

618
00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:32,960
clear is the consensus that's created is one of like,

619
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,000
oh my god, this is horrific. What about the fact

620
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,119
And I think that emotional poy by the way of

621
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,519
like what about the families, what about the individuals? What

622
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,960
about the children and their parents and all this other

623
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,400
stuff was exactly the same emotional leverage that got us

624
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,200
here in the first place. They manipulated low information, high

625
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,640
emotion voters into voting for the very scenario that we

626
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,960
find ourselves in. Is this what happened? And does this look?

627
00:31:57,079 --> 00:31:59,160
It looks to me like it does play directly into

628
00:31:59,240 --> 00:31:59,960
what you're describing.

629
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:02,839
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah, you spot on? Are we off of YouTube?

630
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,200
Like we can be more candid now?

631
00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:05,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, say whatever you want.

632
00:32:06,519 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Did you guys see that clip of Arnold at

633
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,599
the climate change event when the pope was blessing the

634
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,400
ice cube sports Nick?

635
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I didn't see that.

636
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:18,759
Speaker 3: You gotta see this because, believe it or not, Arnold

637
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:22,960
was like the greatest explainer expositor of how the propaganda

638
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,200
that you're talking about works. And it's a great clip.

639
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,160
I'll send it to you, guys. He says, I don't

640
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,039
know if he came on after the poper before the Pope,

641
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:33,759
but he gets something. He goes. He says, forgive my

642
00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:36,920
shitty impersonation of Arnold, but I have to do it. It's

643
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,240
just too just too fun not to do it.

644
00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:42,839
Speaker 2: We couldn't convince anyone of the climate, the problem with climate,

645
00:32:43,079 --> 00:32:44,240
and then what we did.

646
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,079
Speaker 3: We took the child and we put the gas mask

647
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,119
on the child.

648
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: And you know, he couldn't have breathed, and he was

649
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,799
he couldn't breathe, and then everyone believe in the climate.

650
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,839
Speaker 1: And so that's pretty gang.

651
00:32:56,279 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: We got a kid in a gas mask to breathe,

652
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,839
and then it pulled on the hearts rings and then

653
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:03,759
everybody believes in climate change. So he's emitting its lies.

654
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,880
And that's exactly what they do with Remember that the

655
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,480
AOC is going down there because Trump's putting kids in

656
00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:12,079
cages and everybody fell for that.

657
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's like crying at the cage, right at

658
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:15,799
the fence and everything.

659
00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: It's all so so when you see these things.

660
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:26,319
Speaker 2: That I want to see you when I see those things, man,

661
00:33:26,359 --> 00:33:29,000
these these appeals to emotion, especially using children. I mean,

662
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:31,000
I know what kind of sounds like cold, But it's

663
00:33:31,079 --> 00:33:33,079
like as soon as you start waving children in front

664
00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:36,599
of me, I stopped caring, I stopped car and I

665
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,319
become highly skeptical because I recognize this is this is

666
00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:41,440
an emotional leverage that you're you're trying to.

667
00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: Roll out ahead off.

668
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: Remember, I don't know I want to go ahead off,

669
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,960
but I'm looking at my my great look, well Jay's

670
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,079
got cool hair, dude.

671
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: And I can't like I can't.

672
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to get this going, Please Jay continue

673
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:52,400
while I figured.

674
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Speaker 3: You remember the Gulf War thing with the Egyptian ambassador's

675
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,160
daughter and the GOP brought her in as like they

676
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:03,400
tried to say this she was she wasn't even there.

677
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:10,519
In Saddam's you know, incubator incubators. That was again child

678
00:34:10,519 --> 00:34:13,440
propaganda when they were trying to overthrow a SOD back

679
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,280
in the day. I remember like twenty fourteen, we were

680
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:20,000
write fifteen, were writing articles about Dusty Boy, and that

681
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:23,960
was this picture of a dusty boy child that had

682
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:26,679
dust all over him, and Asad had done this to

683
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,159
his own people, and all that was just fake guys propaganda.

684
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:35,039
So yeah, man, that's how it works. It's it's once

685
00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:37,599
she's anytime you see that kind of child propaganda all

686
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:39,039
on now. And they remember they did the same thing

687
00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:42,000
with Greta, right, they rolled Greta out as like we

688
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:44,599
must all listen to the child, you know when she's.

689
00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:45,199
Speaker 1: How damn you?

690
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:51,519
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, that's just the most basic retard level propaganda.

691
00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:53,280
But that works, dude.

692
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: It does.

693
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:54,119
Speaker 3: Well.

694
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:56,519
Speaker 2: Okay, I want to go someplace with this and and

695
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,360
and it's I know it's a joke and it's a me,

696
00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:01,119
but I want to have a discussion about it. This

697
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:03,159
idea of like repeal the nineteenth has become a meme,

698
00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:05,800
and it's like, before everybody recoils, I want to say, like,

699
00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:10,519
you know, women are the men deal with systems and

700
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,159
logic and things of that nature. Women are typically emotional,

701
00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:18,199
empathetic and nurturing, right, And so when you have all

702
00:35:18,199 --> 00:35:20,719
of these these these women voting, and you wonder, well,

703
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,440
who are these low information, high emotion voters the ones

704
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:30,119
that are susceptible to narratives, children in cages and separating

705
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:32,639
mothers from children at the border and things like that.

706
00:35:33,199 --> 00:35:36,239
Am I wrong in saying that it is predominantly women,

707
00:35:36,599 --> 00:35:39,840
male feminists and women who are who are falling for this.

708
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: Sort of thing.

709
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,119
Speaker 2: And then these people go out into the world and

710
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,360
they affect legislation, they affect American politics, and they create

711
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,039
the very thing that that now they find themselves, you know,

712
00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:52,079
crying about because Ice is out in force and it's

713
00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:54,639
doing all these things, and it seems to be lost

714
00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:57,639
on many of them that like this thing that has

715
00:35:57,679 --> 00:35:59,559
resulted in this, And you could say what you want

716
00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:02,480
about and you know, I think that this was an

717
00:36:02,559 --> 00:36:04,800
orchestrated thing to get to this point. You know, maybe

718
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,840
get some of these cities under martial law. Who knows

719
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:12,360
what we'll see. But this is like you have mass

720
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,519
amounts of military aged men who are displaced, who have

721
00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:18,559
no jobs. Many of them are saying things like we

722
00:36:18,559 --> 00:36:21,880
were promised jobs and homes if we came over here.

723
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: Who's doing the promising. I don't know. It's like a

724
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,760
complete landmine.

725
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 4: Like where I came from in Brooklyn, I used to

726
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,960
live in a place called Garrison Beach and they filled

727
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:34,039
this field up with migrant tents, and all it takes

728
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:35,800
is for you to cut the funding to them, which

729
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,199
I like, cut federal snap funding or whatever they're they're

730
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,719
giving them. And it's like it's it's a literal land mine.

731
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,480
It's just pulling the pin on a grenade, the time bomb. Yeah, yeah,

732
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,400
it's it's genius.

733
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: It is genius. But these women that are that are

734
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:46,920
crying about it.

735
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,599
Speaker 2: And I just say it because you see prenominantly women

736
00:36:48,679 --> 00:36:50,599
like in tears talking about this thing, you know, aoc

737
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,480
at the cages and everything, and it's like, dude, the

738
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,079
you gotta drop the emotion. That sort of behavior is

739
00:36:57,119 --> 00:36:59,559
exactly what led to this being you know, possible in

740
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:01,199
the first place. And when you have this big of

741
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,119
a mess and you have to, you know, release ice,

742
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,559
it's gonna be messy. It's not gonna be like this

743
00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:08,920
clean like people, good people, normal people are gonna get

744
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,519
wrapped up in this and it's going to be horrifying.

745
00:37:11,559 --> 00:37:13,320
But it's like I don't see that they need to go.

746
00:37:13,639 --> 00:37:16,480
They need to go, so I don't know this whole

747
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,119
repeal the nineteenth thing. It's like if they're so easily manipulated,

748
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,360
should they be able to vote?

749
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,119
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that a crazy question?

750
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: Thanks there? So, first of all, the the changing image

751
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,679
of man vote for example, back so what we're saying,

752
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,559
because they were saying in nineteen eighty two they would

753
00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:38,239
have to do everything they could to masculate the men

754
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,599
in the west. So that is everything from putting soy

755
00:37:41,639 --> 00:37:46,599
in everything, to you know, toxic food and water soy

756
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,000
slot that we all eat fake food, to the cultural engineering,

757
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,719
the brainwashing and the schools to make young boys, you know,

758
00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:58,400
feel bad about being boys. All of that's part of

759
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:03,559
this plan to allow the country to move into this

760
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:08,000
sort of quasi socialist or socialist technocratic scenario. So the

761
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,360
more that you can get people thinking that they're going

762
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,719
to be on the dole with the universal basic income,

763
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,639
which is like one hundred year old plan, you know

764
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,239
a cu Wells writes about the version Russell wrote about it.

765
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,960
You've got technocrats hundred years ago saying that that's the plan.

766
00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:24,239
I think a good scenario for that is an economic collapse. Right,

767
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,400
But you're right too that when you bring all these

768
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,039
people in with all these promises and then there's nothing

769
00:38:29,639 --> 00:38:35,840
that's a recipe for planned you know, agitation and civil unrest.

770
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,960
And I think that the more they try to polarize

771
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,480
people with a lot of this propaganda, I think what

772
00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:42,760
they want is an eventual clash of some kind and

773
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,679
then perhaps the disintegration of the West. A lot of books,

774
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,079
a lot of writers have been saying that because you've

775
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:50,760
got to get rid of the existing system to bring

776
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,639
in the new system, and the best way that they

777
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,960
typically do that is they're blowing up the old system.

778
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:56,880
How exactly that will happen, I don't know. I know

779
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,159
the dollar will eventually die. I don't think there's anything

780
00:38:59,159 --> 00:39:02,679
behind the fiat currency that's going to eventually just windle away.

781
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,079
All the currencies eventually die. So you combine economic with

782
00:39:06,199 --> 00:39:09,360
the cultural chaos, with the importation of all these you know,

783
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:14,119
people that don't integrate, whatever that means, it's a recipe

784
00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:18,880
for collapse in disaster. And what was it that last

785
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,960
question was about, Oh that the women voting, I mean

786
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:24,960
voting right voting is itself as a scam and it

787
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,239
always has been in my view, So I don't really

788
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,239
think that. I think that's more of a politicized issue

789
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,920
that people think they have this right, and that they

790
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,320
have all this power through voting. I think only at

791
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,480
a local level to voting actually do anything. So although

792
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,519
I do not think that even I mean, if that's

793
00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:44,320
the origins of feminism is suffrage, you know, the whole

794
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,400
feminist movement comes out of that. So the whole idea

795
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,880
itself is kind of retarded because women aren't meant to

796
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:56,280
be primarily involved in the political and economic business sphere.

797
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,079
That doesn't mean they can't have their own you know,

798
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:04,239
side mom hustles or whatever, but like proverbs thirty one woman, okay, yeah,

799
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,760
but like that's not everybody being a boss bitch ceo, right,

800
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:08,400
That's that's it.

801
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: So it's like we can have moms with side hustles

802
00:40:11,039 --> 00:40:13,000
if you have like a crocheting thing or you're knitting

803
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,320
and you want to sell that, but no girl bossing.

804
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: We're done with girl bossing and.

805
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 4: The woman that the woman didn't even want this in

806
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,000
like I know, it's nineteen eighteen or something. Yeah, it's like,

807
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,760
but when when Woodrow Wilson saw that there would be

808
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,159
like a sizeable movement that moved his side, then you know,

809
00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:32,559
the propaganda started to go towards that, and there you go.

810
00:40:32,559 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: They kind of got forced upon it.

811
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,519
Speaker 2: You know, you get too taxable income, state gets to

812
00:40:36,599 --> 00:40:39,280
raise your kid. This is good for the propaganda machine.

813
00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:41,199
Now we're full blown only facaly.

814
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 3: One thing, by the way, real quick, I don't mean

815
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,400
to cut you off. Just one last point on this

816
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,320
that I think nobody ever touches on hardly is there's

817
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:52,079
this great psychology paper called Virtuous Victimhood and the Dark

818
00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:55,559
Triad Traits, and it's about they did a study on

819
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,679
You don't even have to read the whole study, just

820
00:40:57,679 --> 00:40:59,400
read the first five pages of it kind of summarized

821
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,199
the whole thing. They did a study on. In societies

822
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:07,719
based around emotions and egalitarian and egalitarianism or equalitarianism, what

823
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:13,400
happens is it eventually becomes obsessed with everybody having to

824
00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:16,000
feel good, and so the only thing that gets promoted

825
00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:18,159
or only the only thing that gets people ahead is

826
00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:21,800
that people who can capitalize on being oppressed. And that's

827
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:26,440
why this whole system is focused around oppression dynamics and

828
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,119
whoever can prove or try to argue or pretend to

829
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:33,800
be the most oppressed and changing images. A man, for example,

830
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,159
says we're going to raise women to all these positions

831
00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:39,480
of power, not because they care about women, but because

832
00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:43,400
it will be a better means of moving the society

833
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,400
into this socialist shithole that we're going into. And so

834
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,559
they intentionally raise the minorities, and women are part of

835
00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:53,920
the minorities. That also is all the other you know

836
00:41:54,519 --> 00:41:56,880
flavors of the rainbow people groups that are out there.

837
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,440
They raise them and give them a narrative. And what

838
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,639
happens in that scenario isn't that everybody gets like built

839
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,519
up in some sort of equalitarian stuff. What happens is

840
00:42:05,559 --> 00:42:10,639
that the most cunning people that are narcissistic, psychopathic creeps

841
00:42:11,039 --> 00:42:14,239
that hence the dark triad traits, they actually figure out

842
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,440
how to capitalize on the oppression dynamic and they like

843
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,039
compete to be the most oppressed to get the most

844
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:26,800
social tension, you know, social traction, energy, et cetera, focus, attention,

845
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,320
and money, and it actually hurts the people who are

846
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:34,079
actually oppressed. So it's a total like nightmare scam system.

847
00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:35,559
And when you look back at like the you know,

848
00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:39,599
Bolshevik or the Soviet or the communist regimes, it's exactly

849
00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:42,039
how they function. So they function the exact same way,

850
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:43,840
and you have to keep in mind that whether it's

851
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,880
voting or any of the stuff, Like the CIA has

852
00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:50,159
mastered regime change in other countries, they know absolutely perfectly

853
00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:55,800
how to target through stages of revolution. You can look

854
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,400
at something like Great Palace is a famous classic piece

855
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,880
on the IMF shot Doctor of the IMF Revolution. How

856
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,280
they stage these The bankers know how to stage these

857
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:09,239
in phases, and rigging the voting, for example, is part

858
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,519
of how they do that in other countries. They started

859
00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:14,480
all the way back and you know the removal of Mozedic.

860
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,800
Howd Of did a whole podcast in the CIA operations

861
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,920
in Iran to remove Mosdic with the shy end and

862
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:25,000
it includes manipulating the voting system so voting can be

863
00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:29,360
integrated into this overall color revolution regime change operation. And

864
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,960
I think I don't know exactly how they're going to

865
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,119
do it, but I think in the US we are

866
00:43:33,159 --> 00:43:37,119
in a slower roll out of a regime change operation.

867
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,800
I don't mean to get rid of Trump. I'm talking

868
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,599
about like to totally change the country.

869
00:43:42,039 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

870
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you said that places like Canada are

871
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:47,760
like twenty years ahead of US, and I would agree

872
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,480
with that, but it is like a slow role.

873
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: We're going through like really slow.

874
00:43:51,039 --> 00:43:53,679
Speaker 2: Phases, so slow that it almost can appear to the

875
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,320
average person to be organic. And unless you know, really

876
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,920
paying attention or you're as well rate as you are,

877
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,199
I'm nowhere near. I think that's the idea of it,

878
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,280
Like what has yet has to look it's a frog

879
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,639
getting boiled, right, Yeah, it's And it's it's so crazy

880
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,480
because people like us, it's kind of our job to

881
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,960
pay attention to these things. And when I'm I think

882
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,960
my mom was like, well, Trump is so bad, and

883
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,599
I'm like I gotta like kind of defend or at

884
00:44:14,639 --> 00:44:17,440
least give arguments for like something about this, like why

885
00:44:17,519 --> 00:44:21,039
you're wrong from a like a correct standpoint. And I'm

886
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:23,920
I can't even really remember the last like past, the

887
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,079
last six months because it's been such a weird slow

888
00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:28,480
boil of event after event. Yeah that it's like there

889
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,519
are so many things, so much proof in front of

890
00:44:31,559 --> 00:44:34,079
your face. If you don't see it now, I don't

891
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:36,360
even know how to play these events together for you.

892
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,920
They've done a masterful job of creating like these separate realities,

893
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,480
you know, the sort of like you know, little reality

894
00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:46,679
echo chambers that you can subscribe to and live in

895
00:44:47,039 --> 00:44:49,719
and you can see the world through this lends and

896
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,920
and to be fair, you know, to give the other

897
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,760
side or whatever other side. But I'm not I don't

898
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,960
believe in you know, aligning yourself along political lines. But

899
00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:00,400
if you were to be let's say left is, and

900
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,159
you were to look at things through their lens, it

901
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,239
can adapt and it can like you know, it would

902
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,519
make sense the things around you would make sense through

903
00:45:08,519 --> 00:45:11,039
that lens enough that you would feel comfortable staying there.

904
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,639
And it's the same thing for the right, Like if

905
00:45:12,679 --> 00:45:14,840
you're conservative or anything there and you look through that lens,

906
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,199
it's gonna be the same thing. So they've done a

907
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,960
really great job of creating these these sort of like

908
00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:23,280
uh silos or or you know, uh little little what

909
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,320
would you call it? What do you put sheep into?

910
00:45:25,519 --> 00:45:28,280
And echo chambers? Wow, you know where it's like we

911
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:35,159
can It's wild that they've done it to degree that

912
00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:38,039
they have. And I agree with you, we are like

913
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,800
in what would be I forgot who who coined the

914
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,960
term with the idea of like oppression olympics And that's

915
00:45:43,039 --> 00:45:46,599
your currency, you know in these in these times, is

916
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,639
how oppressed you are. And I know We've seen a

917
00:45:49,679 --> 00:45:51,800
lot of comedy make fun of that sort of thing,

918
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,199
but it's true.

919
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,159
Speaker 4: But now we're we're like eclipsing that to uh, to

920
00:45:56,199 --> 00:45:59,480
a certain point, and we're reaching this uh all right,

921
00:45:59,519 --> 00:46:02,320
So here's here's a weird example. I went to an

922
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,440
event for my wife's job. My wife they wanted all

923
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,159
the men to dress like homosexuals.

924
00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: Oh that's right. They wanted him to dress in all white.

925
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 4: Oh, like old white cocktail party. I said, I certainly

926
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,000
will not no offense. Ja beautiful blazer, but I'm like,

927
00:46:15,079 --> 00:46:17,639
I'm gonna wear black pants at least I can't need it.

928
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: It's cream.

929
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 3: It's cream, yeah, cream jacket.

930
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,199
Speaker 1: But I was like, I mean it's a beautiful jacket,

931
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,000
and I don't think there's anything.

932
00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 4: Well, here's here's a problemsosed to everybody calmed down. So

933
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,159
they want us to dress this, which is very nice,

934
00:46:35,199 --> 00:46:37,719
it's fine. But the first thing that they do is

935
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,639
they call out some guy from like the Pacific Islands

936
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,760
and he's doing like the hakka, which I'm like, I'm

937
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,000
extremely aware that. I'm like, you are summoning your ancient

938
00:46:47,159 --> 00:46:49,719
entities and this is the entity of war. Actually, yeah,

939
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,920
and you're in America and you're yelling at me going

940
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:55,960
and swinging this thing and all the white women.

941
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,159
Speaker 1: I'm like, isn't this great?

942
00:46:57,199 --> 00:46:58,639
Speaker 2: Because what you pointed out is it was like they

943
00:46:58,679 --> 00:47:02,000
did they d mask well they asked me to first.

944
00:47:03,199 --> 00:47:05,679
Speaker 4: I absolutely will not, I said, Jay, I'm wearing dark pants.

945
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,199
At least, you're not going to see any there's no

946
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,760
bulges here. We're gonna be We're keeping it nice and

947
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,239
and you know it's gonna be kosher. And then then

948
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,159
you have a guy come in try to emasculate me,

949
00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:18,719
and I'm like, yeah, this is like one plus one

950
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,239
and they've done it subconsciously. And the result of that

951
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,719
made me almost feel like, you know what hitler. Right

952
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,519
as I'm watching the guy, I'm like, wouldn't be such

953
00:47:29,519 --> 00:47:30,239
a bad idea.

954
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: You want me to show up in all white, I'm

955
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,880
gonna show up in an ass. That's the logical, even

956
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,679
though I know, like I know better. It's a really

957
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:40,800
funny thing though, emasculate the men. And then have the

958
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,480
alpha male who's summoning his answers.

959
00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: And he's just yelling at me. I got it.

960
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,039
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, this is no way. That's very like

961
00:47:49,079 --> 00:47:52,079
I got a gun on me right now, there's no way.

962
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I know, I don't know.

963
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: It's it's when you see these sorts of things and

964
00:47:58,039 --> 00:47:59,840
you can see it, you know, really on on this

965
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:01,559
play in women's entertainment.

966
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: That's something that I talk about a lot.

967
00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:10,039
Speaker 2: Uh, these archetypes, these kind of like uh, the couple,

968
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,599
the kid with the two fathers, or the lovable character.

969
00:48:13,639 --> 00:48:16,440
They really only exist. And this is the same thing

970
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,000
we're talking about. The voting system and whether or not

971
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:20,519
you know, it's it's low information, high emotional voters that

972
00:48:20,519 --> 00:48:24,559
are vot voting for a southern border that's porous. All

973
00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:27,360
the ideology is also fed in through women, you know

974
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,199
what I mean. So it's like when you look at women, but.

975
00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 1: All of done is aggravated young men.

976
00:48:32,159 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: Yes, and so so this whole Hitler appreciated and I

977
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,119
think this is probably a good segue. Then this Hitler

978
00:48:36,159 --> 00:48:40,519
appreciation is born out of a disdain for this culture

979
00:48:40,519 --> 00:48:42,960
that we've been subjected to for for for some time.

980
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: Somebody says that, I, oh, it's Nancy because you know

981
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,599
what Hitler I mean, don't use that Hitler.

982
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, So let's get into this conversation. This is really

983
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,880
what I wanted to discuss, this mischaracterization of Hitler by

984
00:48:57,039 --> 00:49:00,960
culture right now on X whether it's a groyper or whatever,

985
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,719
and how they have this caricature of Hitler, who he

986
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,199
is this idol of theirs? Really is what he's become?

987
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,400
What are they claiming Hitler is? And what was he really?

988
00:49:14,679 --> 00:49:17,000
What are the ways in which we're missing the mark here?

989
00:49:19,199 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 3: Yup, you muted, buddy, I must when I touched that microphone.

990
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,599
So yeah, So the claim is that because they figured

991
00:49:29,639 --> 00:49:32,360
out in nineteen thirties Germany that you know, Jewish banking

992
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:40,679
elites and industrialists had derascinated and bankrupted the Weimart Republic.

993
00:49:41,559 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: Shout out by the way, JA to Europa, right, I mean,

994
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,480
Europa is like a huge part of That's that documentary

995
00:49:47,519 --> 00:49:49,360
to me is very suspect.

996
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:50,119
Speaker 1: I was watching it.

997
00:49:50,119 --> 00:49:53,679
Speaker 2: It's ten hours of mk ultering you on Weimar and

998
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,800
the Bolsheviks and Trotzky and all these different things, and

999
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,800
then you know, by the end of it, you're left

1000
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,000
with this glowing reverence for Hitler.

1001
00:50:01,519 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's interesting timing for that to come out,

1002
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:08,519
but I think maybe there was I can't remember. That's

1003
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:10,639
the documentary that there was one that was going around

1004
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,400
like even ten years ago. It might be a different

1005
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,920
documentary or I can't remember, but yeah, I mean.

1006
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: I think it was the same one, but it just

1007
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,880
like Experiences Insurgence.

1008
00:50:19,159 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay. The the idea is, Okay, we've got a

1009
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,840
guy who's going to stand up against the banking elite

1010
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,440
and he's going to uh, you know, rid Europe to

1011
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:34,599
save white people of these you know, toxic elements of

1012
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:39,119
usury and international finance and all that. And I mean

1013
00:50:39,159 --> 00:50:42,599
I remember, back in like two thousand and six and seven,

1014
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,280
I started reading pretty heavily about stuff. I read books

1015
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,760
exposing the Talmud, and I was like, well, maybe I

1016
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,280
should check out see what you know, tiny mustache man

1017
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,639
says himself. So I bought mine comp I read most

1018
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,760
of it, a good portion of it. I read all

1019
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,119
of David Duke's My Awakening, read all of Francis Parker

1020
00:51:01,159 --> 00:51:05,079
Yaki's Imperium. It's like all seven or pages of that reachishpangl.

1021
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,719
So I I read a lot of these sort of

1022
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,840
far right people's and found areas where I agreed and disagreed.

1023
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,280
But I noticed pretty quickly, even when I was less

1024
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,280
interested in Christianity back at that time that you know,

1025
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,679
there's not really much Christianity in mind. Comp For example,

1026
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,239
if if you read through it, he will talk about

1027
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:33,320
the dangers of international usury, international freemasonry, international Zionism, all

1028
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,199
those things that I would agree critiquing. But then the

1029
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,559
solution is we need to revive as kind of a

1030
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:41,039
pagan imperium, right, That's ultimately I think what it ends

1031
00:51:41,119 --> 00:51:46,239
up being. People debate whether Hitler was a agnostic or had

1032
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,760
some sort of a loose kind of perennialist idea about

1033
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,519
who God was, or kind of a syncretist idea. I

1034
00:51:51,519 --> 00:51:55,639
think if we look at the influences you have Baron

1035
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,679
von Sebettendorf, the Thule Society, Theosophy, those are all very

1036
00:52:00,039 --> 00:52:05,480
ateric and sort of gnostic branches of occult philosophy, an

1037
00:52:05,559 --> 00:52:09,599
Eastern Hindu influence philosophy that had quite a bit of

1038
00:52:09,639 --> 00:52:12,239
influence on at least we know for sure, like I said,

1039
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,920
Himler and Rosenberg, but perhaps Hitler as well, because you'll

1040
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,079
find these elements within mineconference says things like the real

1041
00:52:18,159 --> 00:52:23,239
original sin is race mixing, and I mean, whatever you

1042
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,880
think about that, that's not what original sin is in

1043
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,920
the Book of Genesis, right. He says things like Christianity

1044
00:52:30,519 --> 00:52:34,440
is too intolerant of the other religions, for example, pagan

1045
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,480
religions and pagan altars, and so because it has this

1046
00:52:37,639 --> 00:52:39,360
desire to get rid of the pagan alters and to

1047
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,000
set up Christian alters, he says that's too judaic. So

1048
00:52:43,039 --> 00:52:47,679
there's very much an influence of the higher critical school

1049
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,880
of Julius Velhausen and these. You know, I don't know

1050
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,880
if you know what the documentary hypothesis is, but that's

1051
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,880
where you get JEPD, which is taught in all the

1052
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,639
liberal seminaries university, is that the Bible isn't really inspired.

1053
00:53:02,679 --> 00:53:05,639
It's just kind of written by these different the priests class,

1054
00:53:05,679 --> 00:53:10,960
the Java's class, the Eloheen class, the deuteronomous class of

1055
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,199
ancient and so the Bible is all kind of just

1056
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:20,079
pieced together varying traditions. There's not a cohesive, single theology

1057
00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:23,280
that unites the old New Testament. That higher critical approach

1058
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,320
of Julius Velhausen. He himself was just a liberal German.

1059
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,159
He said, we have to get rid of all the

1060
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,639
judaic elements within Christianity. Well, when you get to Hitler,

1061
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,760
especially in elements of Minkong, But when you get to Rosenberg,

1062
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,639
they're very explicit that, yeah, let's purge the Reich's Christianity.

1063
00:53:39,639 --> 00:53:43,159
We'll have positive Christianity, it'll be amenable to the Reich.

1064
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,880
We can have some of the Pagans, and you can

1065
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,360
have positive Christianity. But whatever is judaic Christianity has to

1066
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,239
be gotten rid of. But that's really I mean, you

1067
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,559
can't have Jesus without the Old Testament. You can have

1068
00:53:52,679 --> 00:53:54,519
you know, he's the Lamb of God. What does that mean? Well,

1069
00:53:54,519 --> 00:53:56,519
if I don't know what Passover is and Exodus, I'm

1070
00:53:56,519 --> 00:53:57,840
not gonna know what the Lamb of God is. So

1071
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:03,800
it's an viable of an ancient heresy called Marsianism or gnosticism,

1072
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,079
which says the God of the Old Testament is this

1073
00:54:06,199 --> 00:54:09,039
other kind of God, and then Jesus kind of be

1074
00:54:09,079 --> 00:54:13,960
crafted into a symbol or an image of an amenable

1075
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:18,679
philosophy to the Reich. So, as an Orthodox Christian, I

1076
00:54:18,679 --> 00:54:21,760
don't have a problem with Christian nations and Christian imperium.

1077
00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:25,679
That's the old Byzantine Orthodox Christian view, but it's not

1078
00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:30,679
crafted to biological determinism. And I think That's one of

1079
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,519
the key elements where I would disagree with that whole

1080
00:54:32,559 --> 00:54:36,679
perspective is that Hilarianism and the Teutonic perspective or whatever,

1081
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,840
is this idea that blood and soil is kind of

1082
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:44,360
the root of the religion. That's political, but it politicizes

1083
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,360
the religion to make it a tool of the empire,

1084
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,920
whereas in Orthodox Christianity, the empire has to confess one faith,

1085
00:54:51,079 --> 00:54:54,000
and we don't put politics first. We put politics downstream

1086
00:54:54,159 --> 00:54:54,880
of theology.

1087
00:54:56,599 --> 00:54:59,519
Speaker 2: When you look at Hitler and especially the admiration surrounding

1088
00:54:59,519 --> 00:55:02,000
them today, there's a lot of like shallow kind of

1089
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,559
takes where you know, people will say things like Hitler

1090
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,119
was Christian, or Hitler was Catholic, or he was Catholic

1091
00:55:08,119 --> 00:55:11,440
adjacent because he you know, he did that overlap with

1092
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:11,880
the church.

1093
00:55:12,199 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 4: Well, can I just say something because he said something

1094
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,760
that at the very beginning of this and it's a

1095
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,119
theory that kind of just popped up. I think Justin

1096
00:55:19,159 --> 00:55:21,840
and Prometheus Lens he's been floating about the idea that

1097
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,800
eve artook in some sort of sexual deviancy with the

1098
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,079
serpent in the garden, which is what got her kicked out.

1099
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,280
And when you said that about Hitler saying the original

1100
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:37,559
sin is race mixing. For some reason, that just kind

1101
00:55:37,559 --> 00:55:40,119
of like struck me. Did did do you know if

1102
00:55:40,119 --> 00:55:42,960
he believed that? Like, did he think that?

1103
00:55:43,079 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 3: Now? That's that's you tend to see that in Christian

1104
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,760
identity movements and believe it or not, that's actually from

1105
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,719
kabbalistic texts. That's more of like a Jewish I think

1106
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,519
it's in the Zohar. But that comes out of the

1107
00:55:55,559 --> 00:55:58,079
tum of nothing to do with the with the actual

1108
00:55:58,079 --> 00:56:00,239
biblical texts. And they try to come up with this

1109
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,679
idea in the Christian identity circles, which is a bunch

1110
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:06,320
of feds that, oh, when Jesus said, you know you're

1111
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,960
you're of your father the Devil, that that's an actual

1112
00:56:09,039 --> 00:56:13,039
literal seed, that that that that Satan spawned his offspring.

1113
00:56:13,079 --> 00:56:15,599
Who are the moderns and all that, But no, that

1114
00:56:15,639 --> 00:56:18,360
has nothing to do with it's a spiritual seed. So

1115
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,960
everybody who's born of Adam is a spiritual son of

1116
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,000
the Devil. And that's why baptism makes you a son

1117
00:56:24,039 --> 00:56:25,880
of God in our view. So you have to be

1118
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,199
integrated into the Covenant to no longer be a spiritual

1119
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:30,719
son of the devil. It's not anything to do with

1120
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:35,440
biological offspring per se. But you can find that in

1121
00:56:35,559 --> 00:56:40,039
Judaic mysticism in terms of Lilith and the Kabbalah. So

1122
00:56:40,639 --> 00:56:43,559
what Hitler is doing is kind of taking some of

1123
00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:47,599
the Judaic approaches from the Talman and kind of giving

1124
00:56:47,639 --> 00:56:50,960
it more of a Teutonic dent of his own. But

1125
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:55,239
I didn't detect anything. And just because Hitler's tolerant of Christianity,

1126
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,679
you know, in in his book in mind On for whatever,

1127
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,599
that doesn't mean that he's actually a Christian, you know

1128
00:57:02,599 --> 00:57:04,719
what I mean. It's like you can have there's plenty

1129
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,599
plenty of world leaders that are pagans that are tolerant

1130
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:09,960
of Christianity. That doesn't make you a Christian. I've never

1131
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,320
seen any evidence that he was Catholic. Just because they

1132
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:18,360
had certain geopolitical alliances with the papacy for certain specific events,

1133
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,360
that doesn't mean that he was a Catholic.

1134
00:57:21,679 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: It's funny because the idea that he had issues with

1135
00:57:25,079 --> 00:57:28,599
Christianity because it was intolerant of other religions is like,

1136
00:57:28,679 --> 00:57:33,480
you know, the way that I understand things is these

1137
00:57:33,639 --> 00:57:37,840
these pagan pantheons, you know, I subscribe we maybe like

1138
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,239
a Gary Wayne kind of an idea where like, these

1139
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,519
entities that these pagans are worshiping, and you know, you

1140
00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:48,679
name it. It doesn't matter which one are real spiritual entities,

1141
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,159
but they their nature is horribly misunderstood by the people

1142
00:57:52,239 --> 00:57:55,719
that are worshiping them. These are either the fallen ages

1143
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,000
themselves or you know, disembodied spirits of their offspring or

1144
00:57:59,039 --> 00:58:02,440
what have you. But they're all alignment with this spirit

1145
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:08,440
of rebellion, and so it's it's it's kind of a

1146
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:12,880
note Sherlock when you say, like, oh, Christianity isn't tolerant

1147
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,239
of these pagan ideologies. It's like, yeah, I mean, if

1148
00:58:15,239 --> 00:58:17,159
you wanted to put it in rudimentary terms, it's because

1149
00:58:17,199 --> 00:58:21,159
the things that they're worshiping are demonic in their very nature.

1150
00:58:21,199 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 4: And so obviously, by the way, we actually have a

1151
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,320
good person here to ask this question too, because we've

1152
00:58:25,519 --> 00:58:29,400
I've asked almost everybody, but David just got baptized on Sunday.

1153
00:58:30,599 --> 00:58:35,880
What does that mean in your opinion in the Orthodox tradition?

1154
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,039
Speaker 1: What does that mean? And why should we do it?

1155
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,679
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean Orthodox Christianity we would look at acts too,

1156
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,280
you know. Thirty eight thirty nine, where Peter says or

1157
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,559
pent be baptized for their emission of sins, and immediately

1158
00:58:46,639 --> 00:58:49,960
after that they have an actual you know, water baptism.

1159
00:58:50,079 --> 00:58:52,760
You know, Titus three says that it's the washing of

1160
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,440
the labor of regeneration for us to labor as the font.

1161
00:58:56,559 --> 00:59:00,880
All the early early churches and their architecture had full

1162
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,760
on baptismal fonts where people would be baptized into the

1163
00:59:04,119 --> 00:59:06,679
Triune God. Jesus says, you know, you baptize the name

1164
00:59:06,679 --> 00:59:08,280
of the Father's son Holy Spirit. So we would see

1165
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,960
that as a trinitarian confession, and that's what puts you

1166
00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:16,159
into covenant with God. You know. Galatians three talks about

1167
00:59:16,199 --> 00:59:19,119
those that are in Christ are those that are the

1168
00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:22,559
seed of Abraham. So the promises to the especially Genesis twelve, fifteen,

1169
00:59:22,639 --> 00:59:27,639
seventeen twenty two, those Abrahamic covenant promises are expanded to

1170
00:59:27,679 --> 00:59:30,920
the Gentiles when the Messiah came and instead of circumcision,

1171
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,199
which was a you know, bloody sort of primitive right,

1172
00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:38,880
God instituted baptism for the nations because that's a much easier,

1173
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,320
simpler means of coming into the covenant than just males

1174
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,119
only being, you know, having their force been removed, which is,

1175
00:59:46,119 --> 00:59:48,119
by the way, as a sign of original sin. That's

1176
00:59:48,159 --> 00:59:52,079
the purpose of its Paul Says and Colossians. The baptism

1177
00:59:52,559 --> 00:59:55,840
is the reality that replaces the symbology and the typology

1178
00:59:55,840 --> 01:00:00,440
of that of circumcision. So circumcision was a type. Baptism

1179
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,320
is the reality which fulfills the type. So we don't

1180
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:07,119
believe that baptism is merely a symbolic ritual, but that

1181
01:00:07,239 --> 01:00:10,119
it actually affects the thing that is happening, because the

1182
01:00:10,159 --> 01:00:13,480
Old Testament rituals and rights were symbolic, and the New

1183
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:17,559
Testament rights that Jesus institutes actually bring about that change.

1184
01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:18,639
So that's the orthodox few.

1185
01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:23,239
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm pumped that it's it's water baptism and that circumcision.

1186
01:00:23,239 --> 01:00:25,400
I mean, thirty five years old, they were going to

1187
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,679
put me in front of this discovery and snip off

1188
01:00:27,679 --> 01:00:31,679
my foreskin that had been rough. So I wonder your

1189
01:00:31,679 --> 01:00:33,840
thoughts on this, because you know, I have this this

1190
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:38,239
theory that a lot of what was happening, the iconography

1191
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:43,400
surrounding Hitler in particular, was that of a particular entity,

1192
01:00:43,679 --> 01:00:45,639
all right, right, and I know, like Hitler was into

1193
01:00:45,679 --> 01:00:47,960
whatever he was into, and there's all this idea of like,

1194
01:00:48,519 --> 01:00:52,280
you know, these Germanic tribes, these Germantic pagan tribes, and

1195
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:56,480
then Aryans, and if you look at Blavatsky's beliefs on

1196
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,199
what Arians were, it gets even stranger, right. I look

1197
01:01:00,199 --> 01:01:03,079
around at all the iconography surrounding Hitler, and it looks

1198
01:01:03,119 --> 01:01:06,559
to be that of specifically Zeus. I mean, you have

1199
01:01:07,199 --> 01:01:10,239
the Zeppelin Tribune fairgrounds or in Tribune grounds, I think

1200
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,599
I add the word fair in there where he's giving

1201
01:01:12,639 --> 01:01:15,039
his speeches from some of his most you know, iconic

1202
01:01:15,119 --> 01:01:19,119
based Hitler speeches are given from this this fair ground

1203
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,599
and its designed after the Temple of Zeus that's found

1204
01:01:23,719 --> 01:01:28,719
in Turkey, Turkey being you know, modern day Turkey being ancient.

1205
01:01:30,039 --> 01:01:31,559
Speaker 1: Pergamum is it Pergamum?

1206
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 2: And this temple is brought to the Berlin Museum. And

1207
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,840
when Hitler, you know, hires this guy, I forget what

1208
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,639
his name is to design. The guy goes to the

1209
01:01:43,679 --> 01:01:45,960
Berlin Museum and he takes, you know, all of his

1210
01:01:46,119 --> 01:01:49,320
inspiration from the Temple of Zeus, and I think they

1211
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,320
even move there's rumors that they move stones from it

1212
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,159
and incorporated them into the build. So he's giving his

1213
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:59,320
speeches from the temple of Zeus, you know, some homage

1214
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,320
to it. Maybe some parts of it are still there.

1215
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,760
The eagle being a it's Zeus. It's like the number

1216
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:09,800
one animal. I mean, Zeus transmuted himself into a number

1217
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,599
of things that I think a goose or a swan

1218
01:02:11,679 --> 01:02:13,280
was one of them, where he you know, raped some

1219
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:14,679
chick as a bird.

1220
01:02:16,039 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: But you know, uh, an eagle.

1221
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 2: Was one of the most associated animals with Zeus. And

1222
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,639
then of course you have light You're talking about the

1223
01:02:23,679 --> 01:02:26,719
s S uniforms, the eagle, the lightning bolts, the I'm

1224
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,440
looking at all of this and I'm going this is

1225
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:32,719
not a guy who has you know, what would you

1226
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,960
call it Christian adjacent worldviews or ideology. This is a

1227
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,920
guy who is Steveton paganism. I guess the only question

1228
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:45,239
would be, is Hitler and unknowing uh participant in this

1229
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,880
sort of pagan theater that he's surrounded by while his

1230
01:02:49,239 --> 01:02:52,960
you know, constituents are engaging in all this occult practice,

1231
01:02:53,039 --> 01:02:56,960
and you know, you have never ending amounts of unconfirmable

1232
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:01,360
but still compelling conspiracy theories surrounding right with you know,

1233
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,199
these vimanas and things of that nature that come from

1234
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,599
ancient India, and whether or not they have these bell

1235
01:03:06,639 --> 01:03:09,320
shaped UFOs, and the list just goes on.

1236
01:03:09,199 --> 01:03:10,559
Speaker 1: And on and on a bit.

1237
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 2: But is it Hitler has plausible deniability in all of this?

1238
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,760
He just didn't know he was so wrapped up in

1239
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:18,960
the liberation or the supposed liberation of his people that

1240
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,599
he didn't realize what his constituents were doing. Or is

1241
01:03:21,679 --> 01:03:24,840
Hitler a willing participant in all of this? By the way,

1242
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:29,199
the guys on pervetin, which is effectively methan fetamine. We

1243
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,960
talked to one of our favorite guests, doctor Jerry Marzinski,

1244
01:03:32,039 --> 01:03:35,719
clinical psychologists who deals with schizophrenic patients for like thirty

1245
01:03:35,719 --> 01:03:38,840
five years. He said, the number one rug associated with

1246
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,639
displaying signs of schizophrenia, which he has now come to

1247
01:03:41,639 --> 01:03:45,400
the conclusion, is a spiritual disposition that you're being influenced

1248
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,239
and oppressed by spirits outside of your own self. He says,

1249
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,599
methan fetamine is the number one thing that will kick

1250
01:03:50,639 --> 01:03:52,760
that door open and give those spirits access to you,

1251
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,480
and it becomes very difficult to close them. So you've

1252
01:03:54,519 --> 01:03:57,639
got a guy on meth standing at the altar of.

1253
01:03:57,719 --> 01:04:01,719
Speaker 4: I mean even before he was like on meth. There's

1254
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,639
a story from I think when he was in the war.

1255
01:04:03,679 --> 01:04:06,559
Speaker 2: War insists I actually have this pulled up here, so

1256
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,920
and this is one of these things. His sister Paula

1257
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,360
writes a sort of a manuscript for a magazine. I

1258
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,480
think it was a fifteen page manuscript, and within it

1259
01:04:18,719 --> 01:04:21,639
she talks about, you know, her brother, and there's this

1260
01:04:21,679 --> 01:04:24,800
little snippet where she talks about him giving in or

1261
01:04:25,239 --> 01:04:28,199
taking guidance from a voice. You know, you can call

1262
01:04:28,199 --> 01:04:30,639
it intuition or otherwise. He believed it was like the

1263
01:04:30,719 --> 01:04:32,920
voice of God. He called it providence. And then there's

1264
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,559
this lore and it's hard to confirm it that kind

1265
01:04:36,599 --> 01:04:37,800
of builds Hitler up.

1266
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: And it's this idea that like this voice.

1267
01:04:40,639 --> 01:04:44,079
Speaker 2: Is divinely guiding him, even to the extent where he

1268
01:04:44,199 --> 01:04:46,559
has this inclination at one point from the voice to

1269
01:04:46,639 --> 01:04:49,679
step to the side as an incoming missile right lands

1270
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,199
and it takes out the homies that he's hanging out

1271
01:04:52,199 --> 01:04:54,679
with and he just so happens to have sidestepped at

1272
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:59,000
just time, so, you know, further bolstering the lore, the sort.

1273
01:04:58,840 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: Of cryptic lore of Hitler.

1274
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:03,239
Speaker 2: Or you start to look at this, and it's anecdotal,

1275
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,280
albeit and there's a lot of plausible deniability and wayte

1276
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,159
to kind of squirm out of it. But it looks

1277
01:05:08,639 --> 01:05:10,960
to me like this is not a guy who is

1278
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,159
an unknowing participant in this. It seems to me like

1279
01:05:14,199 --> 01:05:17,480
this is something he is fascinated by and is engaging with.

1280
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, that's that is a good question. I mean,

1281
01:05:22,719 --> 01:05:26,400
there does seem to be these kind of perennialist undertones

1282
01:05:26,719 --> 01:05:28,800
that I've seen in mind comp but I'm certainly I'm

1283
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,320
not a historian of World War two. I've just read

1284
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,039
several books on it, and I look at, you know,

1285
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,599
the ethos of the mythology that Rosenberg crafted, and it's

1286
01:05:37,639 --> 01:05:40,840
definitely a return to the idea of you know, pagan

1287
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,719
Rome something like that, and you know, Rome just kind

1288
01:05:43,719 --> 01:05:46,719
of adopted the same pantheon that the Greeks had, So

1289
01:05:46,719 --> 01:05:49,000
I could definitely see that, you know, that Zeus element

1290
01:05:49,039 --> 01:05:51,960
that you talked about, that's definitely definitely there. Zeus obviously

1291
01:05:52,039 --> 01:05:55,239
isn't the same as the biblical deity. So once you

1292
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:59,599
understand that, you know, Christianity has to be exclusionists because

1293
01:05:59,639 --> 01:06:01,119
Christ on the way that truth in the life no

1294
01:06:01,159 --> 01:06:03,119
one comes to the Father but by me, so you

1295
01:06:03,159 --> 01:06:06,320
can't have you know, like put Francis and Leo say,

1296
01:06:06,599 --> 01:06:08,800
all the religion and all the past going to take

1297
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,880
you to the to the One God. And you know

1298
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,679
Hitler also trying to make alliances with Islam as well.

1299
01:06:16,519 --> 01:06:21,639
That if you look up his meetings with a mean

1300
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:25,320
Al Hussani, who was the British intelligence operative, that was

1301
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:29,159
the Grande Mom of Jerusalem. That was a British spy

1302
01:06:29,239 --> 01:06:31,360
who was placed there to kind of have this continual

1303
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,639
backdoor discussion with Hitler throughout these periods, as well as

1304
01:06:36,639 --> 01:06:39,960
the Royal Society meeting with rib and Tromp consistently throughout

1305
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,400
throughout that time. Keep in mind too that Bolovatski and

1306
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:47,159
Theostry was also promoted by the Rothschilds, right, the Fabian

1307
01:06:47,239 --> 01:06:49,519
Society and all that. That's getting a lot of Rothchild money,

1308
01:06:50,079 --> 01:06:53,639
and that's where you get theosophy. Madame Levavski was a

1309
01:06:53,639 --> 01:06:57,119
Fabian socialist, so she was talking to a lot of

1310
01:06:57,159 --> 01:07:01,559
the KGB people like roar Rick and others. She would

1311
01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:04,559
go and have these meetings with the ascended Masters and

1312
01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:06,519
all this kind of stuff, which I'm not saying she

1313
01:07:06,679 --> 01:07:11,000
wasn't contacting demons. But doctor Richard Spence is a really

1314
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,559
good historian on a lot of the stuff. And we did

1315
01:07:14,559 --> 01:07:17,800
an interview on Secret Agent sixty sixty six, which is

1316
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:21,079
about Crowley's work with British intelligence, and he wrote another

1317
01:07:21,199 --> 01:07:25,480
essay about how her ascended masters might have also been

1318
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,760
her some of her handlers, so spy handlers in other words,

1319
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,639
So that there's this espionage element that's important to understand

1320
01:07:32,639 --> 01:07:36,960
as well, because whether it's the Reich, or whether it's

1321
01:07:37,079 --> 01:07:39,719
the Fabian Socialist or whether it's the Bolsheviks, many of

1322
01:07:39,719 --> 01:07:43,320
them were into the occult. Glebe BOKIAI as another famous

1323
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,559
Bolshevik who was an outright sort of straight up Satanist

1324
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,519
eyes watch shut kind of guy. He was having eyes

1325
01:07:49,559 --> 01:07:52,519
whych shut orgies. So that's there's also Pinks. I don't

1326
01:07:52,519 --> 01:07:54,280
know if you've heard of that book, but that's that's

1327
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:59,119
the skittles stuff going on amongst some of the ss.

1328
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:01,679
Speaker 1: What is it? Wait? Wait, what do you mean the

1329
01:08:01,719 --> 01:08:05,000
skittle stuff? Talking about the jacket stuff come about?

1330
01:08:07,559 --> 01:08:09,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the rumor. I mean that people

1331
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,559
there's these rimors that that Hitler himself was a I

1332
01:08:13,639 --> 01:08:15,000
wonder what do you make of that? And what do

1333
01:08:15,039 --> 01:08:17,319
you make it the idea that he was a rothschild.

1334
01:08:17,359 --> 01:08:19,319
It's it's interesting. I mean you just touched on this

1335
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:23,640
idea of Blovatsky talking to her ascended masters. I guess whoever,

1336
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:29,000
David David, but it was possibly her handlers as well.

1337
01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:31,279
Speaker 1: And then that leads into skull technology.

1338
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, because all that stuff is patented right at the

1339
01:08:33,399 --> 01:08:37,600
same time, like dental tooth and plants. The different mk

1340
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:41,079
ultra techniques are patented around like the nineteen for sure.

1341
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,520
Speaker 1: They have some working before they patented.

1342
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:47,119
Speaker 4: It's very it gets very confusing on what is supernatural

1343
01:08:47,279 --> 01:08:51,039
extraterrestrial and what is just government influence doing things and

1344
01:08:51,199 --> 01:08:51,600
saying it.

1345
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 2: I love the idea that everything that David Ike is

1346
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,199
talking about actually was justin spooks.

1347
01:08:58,239 --> 01:09:00,399
Speaker 1: I like David Ike, but I just he number one,

1348
01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:01,359
he's very grumpy lately.

1349
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:05,119
Speaker 2: Uh. And number two, I just like it's a fundamental

1350
01:09:05,239 --> 01:09:06,960
question that I have for him, which is, like, you know,

1351
01:09:07,119 --> 01:09:08,880
so much of this and his own admission comes from

1352
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:14,399
channeling these through a coundolini awakening uh assembly stuff. Yeah,

1353
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,359
you get it gets because that's how the Condolini starts

1354
01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:18,600
in the and then if you keep it there long enough,

1355
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,000
it moves north and then you have an awakening, and

1356
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,319
and so and then he and he channels he's ascended

1357
01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:27,119
Alantean Masters, and then they tell him all this stuff.

1358
01:09:27,159 --> 01:09:28,520
And I'm like, fun stuff. A lot of what you're

1359
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,479
saying really interesting, really compelling. I could see what you're

1360
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,760
talking about. Have you ever considered that they lied to you?

1361
01:09:34,359 --> 01:09:40,319
Speaker 1: Cool dude? So it's like, dude, you know that whole

1362
01:09:40,359 --> 01:09:42,279
thing is really fat. I love that idea.

1363
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 2: She thinks it's ascended Atlantean Masters. Really it's spooks shooting

1364
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,640
lasers at her head. That's fantastic.

1365
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 1: Why not all of these why not all of these things?

1366
01:09:52,159 --> 01:09:53,399
What do you think about this idea?

1367
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 3: Though?

1368
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,520
Speaker 1: That Hitler himself was a roth child.

1369
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, if the Masters are just like Caddie Demons.

1370
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,279
Speaker 1: Well that's what I kind of suspect, is the kid's dog.

1371
01:10:03,359 --> 01:10:06,039
Speaker 3: I think that, Yeah, Like what if they lie? Right?

1372
01:10:06,079 --> 01:10:08,600
What if it's lying dudes that are just as sended

1373
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:09,600
like spirits?

1374
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,319
Speaker 4: Honestly, I think that that's what all this is, where

1375
01:10:13,319 --> 01:10:15,279
they're like Jesus is gonna come back as a plegating

1376
01:10:15,319 --> 01:10:17,920
where like Blue Spandex, I was like, what if you're

1377
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,319
talking to somebody that's just you.

1378
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 1: Know, what's crazy talking about Did he block you?

1379
01:10:23,399 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 2: No?

1380
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 4: But I'm a big fan. To me, I'm a big fan.

1381
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,840
I'm like, I hope you keep for this because I

1382
01:10:28,039 --> 01:10:28,199
like it.

1383
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 2: Guy.

1384
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,560
Speaker 1: I talked about him on the Raven and and I

1385
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,479
never even interacted with him. Dog.

1386
01:10:33,079 --> 01:10:35,159
Speaker 2: Somehow it got to him that I talked about him

1387
01:10:35,199 --> 01:10:37,640
what yesterday morning, and he's blocked me.

1388
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,560
Speaker 1: And now I don't have access to engaging with his

1389
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:40,439
content anymore.

1390
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 2: But I still get to see it because the way

1391
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:45,239
Twitter works. But yeah, dude, I think you're right on

1392
01:10:45,399 --> 01:10:49,239
the money is like this this it's a simple question

1393
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:53,000
because if I heard a voice and I wasn't like, oh, well.

1394
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,119
Speaker 1: You deserve it, I don't deserve it, dude.

1395
01:10:56,119 --> 01:10:59,520
Speaker 2: I was just I was just saying it was, uh

1396
01:11:00,359 --> 01:11:03,199
that that if I had an experience with what I

1397
01:11:03,279 --> 01:11:06,399
felt was was God, then maybe that would But that's

1398
01:11:06,399 --> 01:11:08,359
not even what David Ike is claiming. He's like, no, dude,

1399
01:11:08,359 --> 01:11:10,720
these are just ascended to Lantean masters.

1400
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 3: And fall since.

1401
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: And you're not wondering if they're lying to you, Dude,

1402
01:11:17,079 --> 01:11:17,319
you're not.

1403
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,199
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's and it's you know, how how

1404
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,560
long have we experienced this thing where it's like they'll

1405
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,239
tell you a tremendous amount of truth and then some

1406
01:11:24,399 --> 01:11:27,399
really fundamental, really important lies about the nature of things,

1407
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:28,680
and that's where everything deviates.

1408
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,119
Speaker 3: Well, the actually saying this Changing Images of Man book, right,

1409
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,319
so that the religion of the future that's coming will

1410
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:41,920
include channeling of entities and spirits to get information about

1411
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,920
how to conduct like our future government. I mean, we

1412
01:11:46,039 --> 01:11:48,920
showed it on that episode of Alex but here, here's

1413
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:52,359
a chart and you can see right here it's like, yeah,

1414
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,479
just channel the channel the spirits.

1415
01:11:54,800 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: This is like, oh yeah, right, graduate level demons. That's interesting.

1416
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 4: One of our one of our topics of UH exploration

1417
01:12:07,119 --> 01:12:10,720
is the Telepathy tapes, and that seemed like a primer

1418
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,079
for UH channeling, or at least like I mean, they're

1419
01:12:14,119 --> 01:12:17,079
calling a telepathy, but realistically it is kind of like

1420
01:12:17,119 --> 01:12:18,800
it's like a bunch of autistic kids telling us how

1421
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:20,560
to run our government. There everyone comes back with the

1422
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,520
same message of like, you know, there's gonna be a

1423
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,680
global catastrophe. Whatever they're saying about the what's that Coller shift,

1424
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:30,319
the Intergalactic Federation of Homosexuality UH.

1425
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,399
Speaker 1: By the way for the audience, go ahead.

1426
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:34,079
Speaker 3: No, I'm sorry.

1427
01:12:35,199 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, for the audience, we're gonna

1428
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,560
have on pastor Joe and Franco on the show soon.

1429
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,600
I'm actually talking to him. We're text buddies now.

1430
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:42,239
Speaker 1: Oh cool.

1431
01:12:42,279 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 2: And and he is one of the pastors that worked

1432
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:47,840
on the telepathy tapes, and he said they cut out

1433
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,600
a tremendous amount of footage, and all of that footage

1434
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:51,399
had one thing in common.

1435
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,560
Speaker 1: It was the children talking about Jesus Christ.

1436
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:55,079
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that they were talking to the

1437
01:12:55,239 --> 01:12:58,079
Jesus Christ if they were talking to some demon posing

1438
01:12:58,119 --> 01:13:01,279
as a pleadan, you know, even Christ Jesus Christ some

1439
01:13:01,279 --> 01:13:03,520
way that I don't know. But it's interesting to me

1440
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:08,479
that what's her name, cat, the chick who who made

1441
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,760
whatever her name is, she used lesbian. It's interesting to

1442
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,199
me that she, you know, removed all of that from

1443
01:13:15,239 --> 01:13:17,239
the story. And even though this guy worked on it,

1444
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,239
you know, and there was all this content surrounding that particular.

1445
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 4: There are a lot of little tidbits, like the Indian

1446
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,920
kid was claiming to be in contact with some of

1447
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,119
these like ancient deities of their Hindu religion, and the

1448
01:13:30,199 --> 01:13:34,520
mother kind of wanted to. It's like wisely dissuaded him

1449
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:38,840
from connecting more with those guys. That's not a good look.

1450
01:13:39,119 --> 01:13:43,119
But there's something there. There's something that it immediately raised

1451
01:13:43,119 --> 01:13:46,479
alarm bells because that new religion you're talking about that's

1452
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:47,720
gonna be coming into the fold.

1453
01:13:48,199 --> 01:13:50,079
Speaker 1: That's what it's going to be all about. Yeah, some

1454
01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:50,560
sort of.

1455
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 2: Telepathic communication or every time it's the Iniad, it's the

1456
01:13:57,079 --> 01:13:59,880
Egyptian Indiad. This, it's that it's the Pleadians shout out

1457
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:02,640
to the Prenadians. But yeah, I mean that's where we're going.

1458
01:14:04,279 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 3: Uh, you guys should reach out and to an interview

1459
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,119
with the doctor Richards Spence because he knows a lot

1460
01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:14,000
about the spon R's angle of Lulvatsky and Crowley. His

1461
01:14:14,119 --> 01:14:16,399
book Secret Agent sixty six six is really really good

1462
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:18,640
on all that, and he knows how to tie it

1463
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,159
into like the occult side of spying and all that too.

1464
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, I got him here. I'm gonna save this tab. Yeah,

1465
01:14:25,119 --> 01:14:28,399
it's it's it's a huge part of where we're going.

1466
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:29,600
I was saying on the show that I was doing

1467
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,680
the other morning, where it's like, I think these these

1468
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:36,000
encounters used to omit christ in very many ways because

1469
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,199
they've been going on for a really long time. But

1470
01:14:38,319 --> 01:14:41,279
I think especially now, and you you know, Christian nationalism

1471
01:14:41,359 --> 01:14:43,920
ties heavily into this discussion, especially when it comes to

1472
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,640
the whole Hitler admiration thing. But at the very least,

1473
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,399
what you could say is there's been this awareness and

1474
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,960
this gearing towards the American consciousness towards christ and I

1475
01:14:52,039 --> 01:14:54,279
think there's some parsing out that needs to be done.

1476
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 4: We're in strange territory for sure, And yeah, I think

1477
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,439
it relates like it's a one to one correlation of

1478
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:06,560
what's happening now between the idea of bringing Hitler back

1479
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:12,079
in in this fantastical view Nick Foentt as gaining the prominence.

1480
01:15:12,079 --> 01:15:14,319
I think that the prominence that he does deserve, he

1481
01:15:14,359 --> 01:15:16,560
shouldn't have been canceled the way he does. But it's

1482
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,319
no surprise that he is now moving the way he

1483
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:23,119
is now, especially after Charlie Kirk's death. So Kirk dies,

1484
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:27,840
there's this resurgence of what I can only explain is

1485
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:31,279
like Christian nationalism that's kind of like peeking in the forefront.

1486
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:33,640
They're doing, you know, their big megachurch thing at his

1487
01:15:34,359 --> 01:15:38,520
memorial or funeral. At the same time, Nick foent As

1488
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:42,199
is sort of taking the he's taking the baton and

1489
01:15:42,399 --> 01:15:45,159
moving in a different direction of whatever Charlie was doing.

1490
01:15:45,359 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't even know.

1491
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,159
Speaker 2: Oh, it's weird because you know, this Christian nationalism that

1492
01:15:49,239 --> 01:15:52,560
is emerging seems to be one that is like spiteful,

1493
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,439
like it can get easily mixed up with it's birthed

1494
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:59,159
out of hatred for like the other side, which is

1495
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,359
not necessarily I don't think that that's the direction that

1496
01:16:02,399 --> 01:16:03,520
we should be going. And I think a lot of

1497
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,439
people would be subscribing to this Christian nationalism not out

1498
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:11,600
of you know, submission to God and this acceptance of

1499
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,760
Jesus Christ as their Lord and savior, but instead as

1500
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,159
a way to stick it to the other side that

1501
01:16:18,239 --> 01:16:19,720
we've been, you know, and it's been.

1502
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,359
Speaker 4: This is specifically hard to navigate because I think this show,

1503
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,039
you know, even though it has like some colorful language

1504
01:16:25,079 --> 01:16:27,119
or whatever, what we're trying to do is lead people

1505
01:16:27,199 --> 01:16:30,119
to Christ and tell people about God. And in a way,

1506
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,960
when this comes up, this sort of this flavor of

1507
01:16:33,039 --> 01:16:35,279
Christian nationalism, I kind of don't want people to go

1508
01:16:35,359 --> 01:16:37,279
towards this, So now I'm like working against my own

1509
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:38,399
endeavors here.

1510
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah wells and yeah well And before we depart from this,

1511
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,119
I just want to say, and then I'll pass the

1512
01:16:44,159 --> 01:16:44,439
ball to you.

1513
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:44,640
Speaker 3: Jay.

1514
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 2: I don't know which way were going to go with this,

1515
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:50,520
but that whole the the occult New Age movement, whatever

1516
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:54,920
used to omit. Christ now is forced to incorporate it

1517
01:16:55,079 --> 01:16:57,680
because I think so many people are coming towards Jesus

1518
01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:59,279
that they're like, Okay, this is a this is a

1519
01:16:59,319 --> 01:17:01,119
thing that we need to figure out how to steer.

1520
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:05,079
So now you're getting crap like pleaighty and Jesus in

1521
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,880
blue scrubs with silver boots. Right, that's the story that

1522
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:10,359
we were reading. That's the guy that you're talking about.

1523
01:17:10,399 --> 01:17:12,640
It's easy stuff though, but there's a lot of that.

1524
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,560
It's like now and then and then you get the

1525
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,279
whole gnostic thing of Jesus was an ascended master.

1526
01:17:17,399 --> 01:17:18,239
Speaker 1: He's just like Buddha.

1527
01:17:18,399 --> 01:17:21,199
Speaker 2: He had a coundlini awakening, YadA, YadA, YadA, the list on.

1528
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:25,560
Speaker 1: You get into the weird stuff. Jay Jay encountered it

1529
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:26,000
the other day.

1530
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,319
Speaker 4: It's like Jesus was actually from like he was Irish

1531
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:30,680
or something like that and the white people or the

1532
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:32,720
real and then it starts to get strange and you

1533
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,520
get into race identity and you are like, all.

1534
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:35,319
Speaker 1: Right, what are we doing here?

1535
01:17:35,359 --> 01:17:35,560
Speaker 3: Guys?

1536
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 1: It feels like they need to They're like, we need to.

1537
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,079
This isn't going away. We need to muddy it a lot.

1538
01:17:40,239 --> 01:17:42,479
So I don't know, uh thoughts, Jay.

1539
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:47,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that you have to who Jesus is,

1540
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:51,119
and the Jesus of history is the Jesus in the church,

1541
01:17:51,319 --> 01:17:53,680
Like you can't divorce who he is from the church

1542
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,960
they established, and we believe that he established a church

1543
01:17:57,039 --> 01:17:59,199
in history. So when the apostles go out, you know,

1544
01:17:59,279 --> 01:18:03,119
they set up sees s e s in the Roman

1545
01:18:03,159 --> 01:18:06,000
Empire and you get the bishops that succeed from those

1546
01:18:06,039 --> 01:18:09,000
different seas. If you read Paul's letters to Timothy, talks

1547
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,520
about laying hands on Timothy passing on the gift of

1548
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:13,600
the Holy Spirit, and he tells Timothy not to hastily

1549
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,880
lay hands on men after him, but to pick good dudes,

1550
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:22,359
solid dudes, to pass that that gift onto, much like

1551
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,439
you see in numbers eleven. When you know you have

1552
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,359
Moses laying hands on the elders passing the spirit when

1553
01:18:28,399 --> 01:18:31,119
you have you know, at the end of Genesis, you

1554
01:18:31,159 --> 01:18:34,520
know Joseph and the blessing in Genesis, there's this there's

1555
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,760
this biblical model of the passing on through the laying

1556
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:40,760
out of hands of the gift or the inheritance, which

1557
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:42,479
in the New Testaments fulfilled in the gift of the

1558
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:46,520
Holy Spirit. So anything that departs from that confession that

1559
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,479
you see in history, because we think Jesus promised the

1560
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:51,239
Holy Spirit to guide the Church and he would never

1561
01:18:51,399 --> 01:18:54,960
leave it, you know in John fourteen to sixteen. So this,

1562
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,039
this presence of the Holy Spirit in the life of

1563
01:18:58,119 --> 01:19:01,399
the church makes the church all so a theandric institution,

1564
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,039
which just means a god man or the body of

1565
01:19:04,079 --> 01:19:08,039
the god Man institution. So it's not a social organization,

1566
01:19:08,279 --> 01:19:12,560
it's not a political organization. It's something totally unique to history.

1567
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:17,119
It's a supernatural organism in our view. And so you know,

1568
01:19:17,159 --> 01:19:18,960
when you go back to like the Nicene Creed and

1569
01:19:19,039 --> 01:19:21,279
this kind of stuff, like there's not really any Christianity

1570
01:19:22,079 --> 01:19:24,479
that departs from that, like it's not Christianity, it's some

1571
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:27,000
sort of deviation and all the gnostic stuff, all the

1572
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:32,159
sort of neopagan stuff. It's really going against mischaracterizations of

1573
01:19:32,199 --> 01:19:35,600
what Christianity is. For example with the Hitler stuff. The people.

1574
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,439
The reason people are looking to that kind of of

1575
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:41,000
a based so called a leader is like, we haven't

1576
01:19:41,119 --> 01:19:45,159
seen a base leader or what the Christian doctrine of

1577
01:19:45,239 --> 01:19:47,960
the state actually is in practice in our generation. It

1578
01:19:48,039 --> 01:19:51,479
doesn't exist. And when you go throughout Church history, you

1579
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:56,720
have countless examples of Christian kings who are opposed to Zionism,

1580
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:02,119
opposed while Desigonism post a rabbinical teut philosophy who fought Islam,

1581
01:20:02,319 --> 01:20:07,199
a countless Orthodox Christian kings, especially in Serbia, who went

1582
01:20:07,279 --> 01:20:12,720
to battle against Islam. So there is this genuine masculine

1583
01:20:13,239 --> 01:20:17,279
kingly heroic patriarchal archetype that it still exists all throughout

1584
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:21,279
Orthodox iconography, the last of which would be Zar Nicholas,

1585
01:20:21,319 --> 01:20:24,199
who was murdered by the Bolsheviks in a Talmudic ritual

1586
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,680
that has been banished, and people don't have any conception

1587
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:35,000
of this. So the deficient nature of Western Christianity for

1588
01:20:35,079 --> 01:20:39,880
the most part, when it seeks for cultural and political

1589
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:44,199
and social solutions, it naturally then wants to gravitate towards

1590
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,239
the last thing that it thinks or remembers in its

1591
01:20:47,319 --> 01:20:50,159
cultural memory as so called days, and that would be

1592
01:20:50,279 --> 01:20:53,720
Tiny Mustache Man. But the reality is that he was

1593
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:58,479
brought into power by Western industrial money. They wanted a war.

1594
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:04,960
This war led to the ex the repatriation of to

1595
01:21:05,399 --> 01:21:09,159
the Middle East by design, and there was an agreement

1596
01:21:09,199 --> 01:21:12,279
between the Nazis and this called the Havara Agreement, so

1597
01:21:12,359 --> 01:21:15,399
that Palestine could be set up. And after World War

1598
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:16,920
two you wouldn't have the nation state of it if

1599
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,880
you'd not had Tiny Mustache Man wreaking havoc and killing.

1600
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:23,239
By the way, millions and millions of Orthodox Christians and

1601
01:21:23,279 --> 01:21:28,399
Russian Christians, Polish Christians who were fighting against them, not

1602
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:32,000
because they were just simply communists. They didn't appreciate the

1603
01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:35,359
attitude that Hitler had, especially towards the Slavs. If you

1604
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,600
read in mind comp he sees them as lesser people

1605
01:21:38,119 --> 01:21:41,199
very clearly. So we would say, as Orthodox and any

1606
01:21:41,239 --> 01:21:46,439
Orthodox Christian saints said that the movement of Napoleon against

1607
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:50,319
Russia and Hitler against Russia were actually actions of the

1608
01:21:50,359 --> 01:21:53,640
spirit of Antichrist. So just because you're against you can

1609
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:56,359
find a Roman emperor who didn't like does that mean

1610
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,159
that he's good because like, well, I mean, being a

1611
01:21:59,279 --> 01:22:01,079
Roman emperor and I need to be worshiped and seeing

1612
01:22:01,079 --> 01:22:02,920
yourself as a sort of a god figure. It doesn't

1613
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:07,359
make you necessarily based. I mean, unless you just hate Christianity,

1614
01:22:07,399 --> 01:22:10,439
as many of the wig nets do. But I mean, yeah,

1615
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:13,920
there's a combination of things there that make it very difficult,

1616
01:22:14,399 --> 01:22:18,000
and that's why people are turning to this created meme

1617
01:22:18,319 --> 01:22:23,560
icon which I believe is a replacement for real kingly iconography.

1618
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:25,359
If you look at what I posted on my Twitter

1619
01:22:25,399 --> 01:22:28,119
the other day, I put two saints, one from the

1620
01:22:28,199 --> 01:22:31,079
king of Serbia, Saint Stephen, who fought against Muslims, and

1621
01:22:31,159 --> 01:22:35,119
then another one was the Romanovs who didn't like So

1622
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:39,720
you've got these images in our Christian civilization that are

1623
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:41,920
opposed to these things. And you can go back to Byzantium.

1624
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,880
It's the same ideology, the same system, but you're not

1625
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:46,960
supposed to talk about any of that. You're only supposed

1626
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:51,199
to talk about I don't know, tiny mustache man or whatever. Yeah,

1627
01:22:51,279 --> 01:22:51,520
that's it.

1628
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 1: That's it. That's an Actually it does.

1629
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 4: It clarifies a lot because I'm left in this situation

1630
01:22:58,079 --> 01:23:02,199
where I'm looking at the we're looking at the state

1631
01:23:02,239 --> 01:23:04,119
of the world, the state of America, and we're like, clearly,

1632
01:23:04,279 --> 01:23:06,840
we do need some sort of a strong man. I

1633
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:10,880
have the proclivity to deny whatever strong man will rise

1634
01:23:11,039 --> 01:23:13,479
up from the movement that's happening now, because it's it

1635
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,279
seems like the fruit is a little bit tainted.

1636
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1637
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 4: And then on the other side of that, when you ask, like,

1638
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:21,640
I don't know Christian just right, do your regular Christian person.

1639
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,720
We go to a Pentecostal church, So obviously my family's

1640
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:26,840
like that. They're like, we're just waiting on Jesus, like

1641
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:29,319
rely on God. And I'm like, yeah, that's that's good.

1642
01:23:30,199 --> 01:23:33,720
But there's stuff happening now, and I got kids in

1643
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:37,760
the world, so like what It's just like it's a

1644
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:41,039
weird conundrum for me, Like what should I be aimed at.

1645
01:23:41,039 --> 01:23:44,039
Should we be looking to galvanize some sort of a

1646
01:23:44,119 --> 01:23:48,720
movement that actually is a Christian movement, a Christian nation maybe,

1647
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,000
like somewhere along the lines of like the guy Joel

1648
01:23:51,039 --> 01:23:53,880
Webbins seems like the kind of I haven't paid as

1649
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:55,640
much as attention to him as I should have, but

1650
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:57,640
he seems kind of like be pushing in that direction

1651
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:04,399
or justly fa faith based, which I'm definitely I'm not

1652
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,239
leaning towards it, but I'm trying my best to do

1653
01:24:06,359 --> 01:24:06,960
that as well.

1654
01:24:07,359 --> 01:24:09,319
Speaker 1: And I think that this actually goes along with what

1655
01:24:09,399 --> 01:24:09,800
you're saying.

1656
01:24:10,039 --> 01:24:12,680
Speaker 2: I was going to ask, you know, what you would

1657
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:16,479
say to people who say Christianity is a Jewish psyop

1658
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:20,159
meant to sort of lull you into complacency.

1659
01:24:20,359 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 1: Judeo Christianity certainly is.

1660
01:24:22,119 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 2: Well, I'm but there are people that look at like

1661
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:29,399
Jesus Christ and this idea of Christianity as like passivism,

1662
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:33,159
and they would say that Christianity the point of it

1663
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:37,359
is so that you can be taken over effectively, because

1664
01:24:37,399 --> 01:24:39,640
it is, it's because of its tenets.

1665
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,119
Speaker 4: Well, they'll say, like Jesus, Jesus will come back with

1666
01:24:42,199 --> 01:24:44,000
a you know, to rule with a rod of iron.

1667
01:24:44,039 --> 01:24:45,640
It's like, but we're waiting for him to do that.

1668
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:47,720
It's like, should we be waiting just for that like

1669
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,520
we are? We are we to not gain dominion of

1670
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,880
this this blessing that we've been given in the meantime

1671
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:54,520
or should we just kind of just wait around and

1672
01:24:55,079 --> 01:24:56,199
whatever happens happens.

1673
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 3: Well, the answers are already in Church history. If you

1674
01:24:59,039 --> 01:25:01,159
look at the first three centuries when the Church is

1675
01:25:01,199 --> 01:25:04,960
persecuted by the Roman beast, it takes a few million

1676
01:25:05,079 --> 01:25:08,640
martyrs before the empire gets christianized, and it does successfully

1677
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,239
get christianized. I believe that's a fulfillment of Daniel two

1678
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,680
because it says that the empire under which the Messiah

1679
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,800
is born would eventually be taken over by his kingdom.

1680
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,439
Jesus said that the Church is the kingdom Matthew sixteen.

1681
01:25:21,279 --> 01:25:24,279
The Church expands and it is given to the gentiles

1682
01:25:24,319 --> 01:25:26,760
Matthew twenty one to forty three at the First Advent.

1683
01:25:27,399 --> 01:25:29,079
So if you look at all the passages in the

1684
01:25:29,119 --> 01:25:31,479
New test One, it's side Psalm one about the ascension.

1685
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,880
The ascension is what happened in Acts. That's when he

1686
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:36,399
begins his reign and set him a right hand, and

1687
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:38,840
I'll make your enemies your footstool. So you're absolutely right

1688
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,800
about that. Dominion mandate is actually now given to the church.

1689
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:45,039
The Church takes dominion by converting the nations. It's not

1690
01:25:45,199 --> 01:25:49,159
primarily political. There is a side effect, a down the

1691
01:25:49,239 --> 01:25:53,760
stream effect of conversion of the empire does eventually affect

1692
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,239
the politics, and you get Christian law. As Orthodox, we

1693
01:25:57,359 --> 01:26:02,079
believe that Justin was St. Justinian is a saint, and

1694
01:26:02,279 --> 01:26:04,479
he put out the Code of Justinian, which is the

1695
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:09,279
famous historic Christian law document that makes Christian laws. So

1696
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,119
all the Orthodox kings that we talked about also had

1697
01:26:12,159 --> 01:26:15,279
the same modus operuna, the same principle of enacting Christian laws.

1698
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,199
But it's it's not that we do politics first. So

1699
01:26:18,279 --> 01:26:20,920
in our perspective as Orthodox, we believe that as the

1700
01:26:21,079 --> 01:26:26,880
nation permeates with Christianity, Orthodox Christianity, particular, when it's the majority,

1701
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:30,159
they can then begin to pass the Christian laws. Right,

1702
01:26:30,199 --> 01:26:32,479
you're going to outlaw things like blasphemy, You're not going

1703
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:35,399
to have all this nonsense. I believe in Orthodox Christian

1704
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,720
monarchy that's the best form of government, but that's not

1705
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,760
our first priority. Right. The early Church, they didn't go

1706
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:43,720
out to try to make sure that Caesar and the

1707
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:47,680
senators converted to make to make Rome be Christian. They

1708
01:26:48,239 --> 01:26:52,800
converted in an organic sort of way, and then eventually

1709
01:26:53,079 --> 01:26:55,319
it permeated the Empire, and it took a few centuries.

1710
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:59,000
And you know in the West and America it's a

1711
01:26:59,079 --> 01:27:02,399
similar situation. They were kind of in a pagan society, basically,

1712
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,159
but through the Internet things like that, we might actually

1713
01:27:05,239 --> 01:27:09,319
see a quicker type of conversion and permeation of authentic Christianity.

1714
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:12,640
It's not going to be this megachurch nonsense, but people

1715
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,720
are going to be looking for the historic form of Christianity.

1716
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:18,000
What was Christianity like for the first thousand years? And

1717
01:27:18,119 --> 01:27:20,680
I think that's what people find interesting in what we

1718
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,880
talk about. I'm not attacking or dissing you guys, or

1719
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,439
doubting your sincerity or anything like that, but you know,

1720
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,560
I was Protestant, raised Protestant, and then reading church history

1721
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:31,000
and reading the Church Fathers and all that that kind

1722
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,199
of led me in this direction. So that kind of

1723
01:27:33,239 --> 01:27:38,079
a Christianity already has a doctrine of the state. And

1724
01:27:38,199 --> 01:27:40,600
I think what you get with people like Joel Webbin,

1725
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:42,039
And I remember I was used to be in a

1726
01:27:42,079 --> 01:27:44,880
Calvinist church kind of like what Joel Webbin's in, and

1727
01:27:45,079 --> 01:27:49,920
we were kind of super caist. I think. So I'm

1728
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,159
not talking to him, I just think so. I'm not positive,

1729
01:27:52,199 --> 01:27:57,279
but I think what those kind of groups are kind

1730
01:27:57,319 --> 01:27:59,680
of searching for, what is the relationship of a church

1731
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,520
and state. It's kind of already been answered, you know,

1732
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:06,680
and Orthodox already has two thousand years of how you

1733
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,920
go about symphonia, which is the double headed eagle. It's

1734
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:11,800
not a Masonic symbol. It's you got one body of

1735
01:28:12,079 --> 01:28:15,119
the people, church and state working together in harmony. It's

1736
01:28:15,159 --> 01:28:17,479
not perfect. They're going to have corrupt church leaders, are

1737
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,439
going to have corupt politicians. But the ideal is when

1738
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:23,239
Christianity permeates, you do have Christian laws.

1739
01:28:25,199 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 1: Orthodoxy was something that I was looking into.

1740
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:29,279
Speaker 2: It turns out that where I moved, the nearest one

1741
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:32,279
was like over an hour away, and I'm like, I just.

1742
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:33,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't do that.

1743
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 3: We go.

1744
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:35,399
Speaker 1: We go to the same church.

1745
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 2: Now. I like the Pentecostals because every time they start

1746
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:39,119
speaking in tongues, I get to look abound.

1747
01:28:39,119 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 1: I go, this is weird, but it is.

1748
01:28:42,319 --> 01:28:42,520
Speaker 3: It is.

1749
01:28:43,159 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 4: I don't think that God only resides in one spot.

1750
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:48,399
I think if you call, if you call him, he's omnipresent.

1751
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:50,600
So it's just a place that I go to on Sunday.

1752
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:52,560
But really the church is kind of like what we're

1753
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:56,079
doing here at this coffee shop. I'm excited if be

1754
01:28:56,159 --> 01:28:58,439
able to make it down. But it's like there's a

1755
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:01,159
Christian library in the back and then Matt Hepner is

1756
01:29:01,199 --> 01:29:02,880
a guy that we like talk to. We do Bible

1757
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,760
studies with this guy, So we're talking about the Bible,

1758
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,119
we're talking about God and the people that walk into

1759
01:29:07,199 --> 01:29:10,840
this shop. You know, there's just varying perspectives, and we're

1760
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:14,880
able to like actually do church every single day rather

1761
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:18,279
than one denomination where you know, like we just go

1762
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:19,079
up once a week.

1763
01:29:19,279 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 1: Yeah I can't. I can't drive an hour and a

1764
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:24,239
half to That was the first thing I looked at

1765
01:29:24,239 --> 01:29:27,039
when I came down here or up here, and and

1766
01:29:27,119 --> 01:29:27,319
I was.

1767
01:29:27,319 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 3: Like, dang, well, yeah, it's actually spreading. So like, for example,

1768
01:29:34,039 --> 01:29:36,039
many of the churches I've talked to the priests and

1769
01:29:36,119 --> 01:29:39,239
bishops and like they're all talking about everything is tripled

1770
01:29:39,279 --> 01:29:41,880
in size the last couple of years. So that means

1771
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:45,159
that there will be more more and more mission parishes

1772
01:29:45,199 --> 01:29:47,880
and whatnot being set up. But you guys are welcome

1773
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:50,359
to to come to our conference November twenty one, twenty second,

1774
01:29:50,399 --> 01:29:52,239
if you want to come over to a Palm Coast,

1775
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,239
we're having a two day Orthodox conference. So we've already

1776
01:29:55,279 --> 01:29:57,319
got about one hundred and fifty people coming. You guys

1777
01:29:57,319 --> 01:29:58,119
are welcome to show up.

1778
01:29:58,600 --> 01:29:59,279
Speaker 1: That would be dope.

1779
01:29:59,319 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 3: I would love to do you have for free by

1780
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:01,479
you come free?

1781
01:30:03,239 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, after the show we'll get the information.

1782
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:08,279
That'd be very cool. We should actually begin to wrap up.

1783
01:30:08,279 --> 01:30:09,359
And I want to respect Jase times.

1784
01:30:09,399 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 2: Well, I want to do you have a question because

1785
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,600
I yeah, we have a big question, the final one. Yeah,

1786
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:15,199
the final one, the most important one.

1787
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1788
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:19,199
Speaker 2: Jay, Uh, this is something that we've begun to close

1789
01:30:19,279 --> 01:30:21,560
all of our shows with and it always turns out

1790
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:26,319
to be a fun question that are always like really interesting,

1791
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:27,840
that's nothing crazy.

1792
01:30:28,359 --> 01:30:32,600
Speaker 3: Definitely, And I asked.

1793
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 1: Just muted. You said you were on some podcasts and what.

1794
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 3: You music?

1795
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:47,359
Speaker 1: You have to touch the mike the fingers. Uh, he's

1796
01:30:47,359 --> 01:30:47,600
got that.

1797
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:50,640
Speaker 2: Shore, the newer shore, and when he touches it, it's

1798
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:54,279
like as not Yeah, Jay, we lost you there, you're

1799
01:30:54,279 --> 01:30:56,439
still You've been muted the podcast.

1800
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:58,600
Speaker 3: It was some weird final question. You know, what's your

1801
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,359
favorite sex position? It's just weird.

1802
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 1: No, no, no, this one pertains I suppose not in

1803
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:11,680
this episode. Okay, if you say yes, just in everything

1804
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:13,000
that you're doing, are you having fun?

1805
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah? I mean I wouldn't. I would not trade

1806
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:21,680
any of this for what I was trying to do,

1807
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:23,800
which was, you know, academia. I was gonna try to

1808
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:26,159
be a professor, and like I told you guys, a professor.

1809
01:31:26,279 --> 01:31:29,119
The graduate advisor was like, well, you're a straight white male,

1810
01:31:29,119 --> 01:31:32,439
You're probably not welcome here. And I remember saying to him, well,

1811
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:34,279
I guess I'll go, I don't know, start a blog

1812
01:31:34,319 --> 01:31:37,079
into a podcast. He actually laughed. He was like, good

1813
01:31:37,159 --> 01:31:39,079
luck with that. But that was back in like the

1814
01:31:39,159 --> 01:31:41,239
late two thousands when that was kind of not really

1815
01:31:42,119 --> 01:31:44,239
it was everybody was doing podcasts at that time, and

1816
01:31:44,359 --> 01:31:47,079
I remember he was specifically and he wasn't laughing. He

1817
01:31:47,159 --> 01:31:50,199
was laughing in a shitty way, like you won't make it,

1818
01:31:50,279 --> 01:31:51,319
you know what I mean. I was like, well, just

1819
01:31:52,159 --> 01:31:56,560
about that. So but he was that weirdo creep that

1820
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,920
he didn't ever like touch my But the word was

1821
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,399
he tried to sleep with the young dudes on campus.

1822
01:32:04,319 --> 01:32:07,479
So yeah, I'm just like, yeah, whatever, dude.

1823
01:32:09,119 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 4: Man, all all these things work out for a certain way, right,

1824
01:32:12,039 --> 01:32:14,439
Like I guess, uh, I'm believing it this way. But

1825
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:16,479
God will close the door and you'll slam it shut

1826
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:18,760
in your face and you'll sit there wondering like why

1827
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:21,000
the hell. I thought I was supposed to do a

1828
01:32:21,119 --> 01:32:24,359
thing right and it's just not that thing, not this place,

1829
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,399
not right now. And I think you're in the right spot, dude.

1830
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's obvious. You're you're in your element. And uh,

1831
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,479
it's good to see. I mean nowadays I feel like

1832
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:34,760
I see everywhere and that's why.

1833
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:35,119
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1834
01:32:35,159 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 1: Whatever. By the way, congratulations.

1835
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 4: I saw like the latest clip that you put up

1836
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,079
where he's like he converted, like you got you got

1837
01:32:41,159 --> 01:32:42,560
it like twenty and we're passes.

1838
01:32:43,039 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 1: Dude's twenty.

1839
01:32:46,039 --> 01:32:48,600
Speaker 3: So I can say right now that's one of them,

1840
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:51,800
got one of them now, was down to twenty three?

1841
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:57,920
Yeahood three is out right, So you guys can get Yeah,

1842
01:32:59,119 --> 01:33:03,199
I've read thousand pages on film analyzes now. So this

1843
01:33:03,359 --> 01:33:05,640
is the completion of the trilogy. It just arrived a

1844
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:07,439
couple of days ago, So you guys can get signed

1845
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:10,479
copies of that at the website. Also in Tampa, will

1846
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:13,479
be at Tampa for the Tampa Bay Screams Horror Convention

1847
01:33:15,399 --> 01:33:18,600
costume party in the over thirtieth and.

1848
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:19,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, thirtieth.

1849
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:23,520
Speaker 2: Uh, that's like Jamie reached out and she but it's

1850
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:24,920
like it's so far. I was like, I can't make it.

1851
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:27,159
You guys are gonna want to drive two additional hours.

1852
01:33:27,319 --> 01:33:28,119
Of course we'd love to have.

1853
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:30,119
Speaker 3: But you guys are on the way, Like I could

1854
01:33:30,159 --> 01:33:34,560
we can go to the what do you say, late lady,

1855
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:35,640
Lady Fingers or.

1856
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:41,720
Speaker 2: Lady Fingers lady, you were south of us? No, I

1857
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:42,880
don't know Florida's enigma.

1858
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:46,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're in St. Augustine. So we drive down to

1859
01:33:46,319 --> 01:33:47,279
you and then to Tampa.

1860
01:33:48,279 --> 01:33:51,119
Speaker 2: Well, that day wouldn't work anyway because we have quite

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frankly show and we have Owen Benjamin coming on.

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Speaker 1: Well, what I'm saying, oh, you guys love Owen Benjamin.

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Speaker 3: Is what I'm saying is we can I can meet

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up with you guys on the way back or on

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the way down.

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Speaker 1: That would be cool. On the way back could work out.

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Speaker 2: And Okay, so look, I don't know if we're gonna

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end up doing this, but if you're listening to this show,

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maybe we could figure out something where we use the

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space in the back.

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Speaker 1: We'll do a little bit of book.

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Speaker 3: You guys aren't even that far. We can do this

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at any time.

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Speaker 1: Dude, I'm so confused about where you are. I thought.

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Speaker 2: Petersburg Saint Petersburg is super south. It's it's more south

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of Tampa. So maybe that's to be honest, we're probably

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the Orthodox Church than we think.

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Speaker 3: How far are you from Orlando?

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Speaker 1: Uh, now we're north of Orlando.

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Speaker 3: Okay, then you are closer to me than you're like

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an hour from me.

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Speaker 2: What maybe he's right by the church and we were

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looking at that's why he's going to the church and

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it's imagining for him.

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Speaker 3: Aid we should just meet up and do some podcasts

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like at any time.

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Speaker 1: Dude, dude, Yeah, we know.

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Speaker 4: We've got a studio here, We've got we're building a

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great community that would vibe with what what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, man, you would. You would love it here and

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people would would come out to come.

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Speaker 3: What's it called Lady Lake.

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Speaker 1: It's called Lady Lake. Yeah, it's it's it's the villages.

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It's where all the old people have, all the s.

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Speaker 3: T d s. You know what I'm talking all this

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humping old people. I know where that is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, we picked that on. We're out here, dog, We're.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: Jay, thank you for thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: This is great.

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Speaker 4: I love always love talking to Jay. And uh, hopefully

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we'll see you soon. Any parting words for us man,

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you guys about where the heck people can find you.

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Speaker 3: You guys are technically just two hours away. I could

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come at any time. That's that's nothing so awesome.

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Speaker 4: Okay, we'll work on some odds and ends for you,

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all right, Yeah, dude, it's been a great episode.

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Speaker 1: Until next time, don't forget to obey some and comply

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with

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