WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:04.080 Ninety five miles an hour riding too his head. 2 00:00:05.799 --> 00:00:06.879 He hopped down. 3 00:00:06.879 --> 00:00:11.839 First with the lump bonius face, and on the very 4 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:15.759 next pitch he up and stole second phase. 5 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:19.800 With gretest speed. 6 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:28.039 He wasn't born, he had yes uniform. 7 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:33.200 All right, welcome to episode Neil Kotts of the Prospect 8 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:36.719 b Side Podcast. That's episode forty six. You all right 9 00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:38.039 with Neil Katz there? Yeah? 10 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:41.479 Are we just gonna get more and more esoteric with it? 11 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:44.240 We need to just get deeper and deeper into the archives. 12 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:46.479 Well, we can't go we can't go like pretty boy 13 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:49.679 with it right. We can't go bat or maddingly or 14 00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:52.560 with good point good point plus. You know what Neil 15 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:55.280 Kotts has on those cats is that he was a 16 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:57.920 member of the greatest team of our lifetimes and those 17 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:01.399 other fellows were not what two thousand have White Sox, dude. 18 00:01:01.159 --> 00:01:03.520 The greatest team of our lifetimes. 19 00:01:03.159 --> 00:01:06.840 The greatest single season team of our lifetimes. Yes, how 20 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:07.280 do you? Okay? 21 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:09.439 You gotta explain that one a little more to me 22 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:13.480 that why is that other than your own fandom? Why 23 00:01:13.599 --> 00:01:14.879 is that the greatest team? 24 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:20.400 Wired wire first place, completely dominated. They used six starting pitchers, 25 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:23.719 the whole season. They lost once in the playoffs, and 26 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:26.439 mind you, they went four complete games in a row. 27 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:29.519 They absolutely wiped the floor with everybody. No one could 28 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:31.359 touch them. I don't remember how many games they want, 29 00:01:31.400 --> 00:01:34.840 one hundred and some, but most dominant season of anyone 30 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:37.599 in our lifetimes, in my opinion, Yeah, I don't know. 31 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:40.680 I mean, I think in our lifetimes we also had 32 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:42.879 the two thousand and one Mariners that put up the 33 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:47.319 record for most wins in a season. We also had they. 34 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:49.359 Also didn't win a championship. 35 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:52.400 But I think you know enough about baseball that like, 36 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:55.480 the playoff winner is not the best team a lot 37 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:55.959 of the time. 38 00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:57.439 Well, I mean, and. 39 00:01:57.400 --> 00:02:01.439 It's a crash like who can It's definitely not. It's 40 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:04.959 a crapshoot who got hot and for a couple of weeks, 41 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:11.280 Like I think the playoffs, the playoff winner in baseball 42 00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:15.280 is a really fun thing. And I think it's a 43 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:19.560 fun tournament because it's unpredictable. It's not like the NBA Finals, 44 00:02:19.599 --> 00:02:22.199 when you have the best team, you're making the finals 45 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:24.680 every time and unless you run into another all time 46 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:27.840 great team, you're gonna win. Baseball is different, and I 47 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:30.280 think that's a feature, not a bug. But I also 48 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:32.840 think that the discourse around you're not an all time 49 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:36.439 great team unless you win the championship is silly. Like 50 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:39.039 the Braves won in twenty twenty one the World Series, 51 00:02:39.240 --> 00:02:42.840 and their teams the past three years have all for 52 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:45.400 sure been better teams than the team that won the 53 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:49.360 World Series, And I think that that's like indicative of 54 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:51.960 the way that baseball shakes out. They had like a 55 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:54.800 good team that got hot and beat a couple of 56 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:57.080 really good teams in the playoffs, but they were not 57 00:02:57.319 --> 00:02:59.800 a great team, and they've had some great teams since. 58 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:01.560 So I mean, I just think that's like. 59 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:04.479 The point is to be the best team in the tournament. 60 00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:06.840 That is the goal. Obviously you have to get to 61 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:09.199 the tournament. But regardless of all. 62 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:12.360 Of that, winning the tournament does not mean that you're 63 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:14.599 the best team in the tournament. I think that's what 64 00:03:14.639 --> 00:03:17.439 I'm saying is that it's are you the best team 65 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:21.240 when you lose a season series against another team, like 66 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:23.520 and that's you know, fourteen games. 67 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:26.479 This is where the nerdiness of baseball just gets way 68 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:28.919 beyond me, Like I understand what you're saying, like in 69 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:31.960 a rodeo sense, maybe they weren't the best team or whatever. 70 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:34.080 But you play the game on the field, you win 71 00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:36.520 on the field. It is the tournament that you have 72 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:38.039 to win if you want to get the trophy. But 73 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:41.439 that's the fairest or the greatest measurement. 74 00:03:41.919 --> 00:03:46.159 That's potological, right, Like that's saying they're the best because 75 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:49.080 they're the best. And I think that the definition of 76 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:52.360 the best players and the best teams are what's the 77 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:55.800 greatest collection of talent and the way that we can 78 00:03:55.919 --> 00:03:59.680 best express that or best understand how that talent's expressed 79 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:03.319 is in scoring the most runs and preventing the most runs. 80 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:06.840 So teams that have the greatest pithag in history or 81 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:10.000 the greatest run differential in history, those are the teams 82 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:13.159 that are the most talented. Sometimes those teams win in 83 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:15.680 older eras they tended to win a lot more often 84 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:19.560 in our current era, like with the wild card era, 85 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:23.759 that those teams absolutely can lose in a five game 86 00:04:23.839 --> 00:04:26.480 series and a seven game series back to back to back. 87 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:29.360 You know, it's like looking at the past decade of 88 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:33.040 the Dodgers, you know, especially before last year, and being like, oh, well, 89 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:36.120 they have one short season championship, Like are they the 90 00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:39.279 best team of the last ten years. Like, they're unquestionably 91 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:41.439 the best team of the last ten years. They've blown 92 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:43.839 everybody out of the water. The only other team that 93 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:46.720 has an even like remote argument for it is the 94 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:50.279 Houston Astros, and they also like cheated the shit out 95 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:52.560 of it for a couple of those years. So I 96 00:04:52.600 --> 00:04:55.160 don't think that for me, you would look at the 97 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:58.120 past ten years and argue anybody else other than the 98 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:02.519 Dodgers as the best team. And they've just now won 99 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:06.240 quote unquote a real world series title, you know, And 100 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:08.680 that's where it's like, I think that's a different definition. 101 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:11.319 The problem with your side of it is though you're 102 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:15.040 measuring everything equally, like a home run in the seventh 103 00:05:15.040 --> 00:05:18.319 inning back in April is not as meaningful as a 104 00:05:18.360 --> 00:05:22.480 home run in October. Like I believe in CPA, and 105 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:25.720 I believe that baseball is a lot about timing. A 106 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:27.800 lot of it is timing, and not all home runs, 107 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:31.319 not all runs, not all runs given up are created equally, right. 108 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:34.680 I don't disagree with that. And that's why the single 109 00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:38.519 highest CPA events are always in the playoffs, because that's 110 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:42.160 closer to the winner go home stage. But that's different 111 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:45.920 from saying they're the best players. Like David Freese in 112 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:50.360 two thousand and whatever that was thirteen, wasn't the best player, 113 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:52.480 He wasn't the best player on his team. He wasn't 114 00:05:52.519 --> 00:05:54.120 best player in the playoffs. 115 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:56.040 But he wracked up the CPA. 116 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:58.399 Yeah, so you're saying he's the best player of all time, 117 00:05:58.480 --> 00:05:59.680 like he's he's the greatest. 118 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:02.079 I'm saying he was the best player at that time 119 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:02.879 in that moment. 120 00:06:03.160 --> 00:06:05.800 I just don't think that that's actually true. Like he 121 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:10.439 had one of the most So win probability is the 122 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:12.839 It's the only thing that matters championship. Probability is the 123 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:13.519 only thing that matters. 124 00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:16.120 Winning is all that matters, baby and right. 125 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:18.560 But the way you win is with good players, Like 126 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:21.279 that's That's what I'm saying, is that the definition of 127 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:23.959 of what the best team is is having the best players, 128 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:26.680 not who won the last game. And I think that 129 00:06:26.759 --> 00:06:30.360 the tournament is fun because of that uncertainty. That's a feature, 130 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:33.600 not a bug. But it's not the same thing as 131 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:34.560 they're the best team. 132 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:38.639 Probability and reality are not the same things, right. I understand, 133 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:41.720 you make the best calculated measurements, this will give you 134 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:43.959 the best odds. But when it comes down to it, 135 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:45.759 it's just who is the best at that time, in 136 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:47.800 that moment, and the O five White Sox with the 137 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:50.160 best team in the regular season and the postseason, and 138 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:53.199 your cute little Mariners weren't that. So I'm sticking to 139 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:56.680 my guns here, best team of our lifetime, just single season. 140 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:00.480 Your your favorite team? That fine? 141 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:03.000 Yeah it was lightning in a bottle, but I will 142 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:05.519 argue that for it for days. But that's not They're 143 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:07.560 not my team anymore, man, They're not. I got the 144 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:09.000 five banner back there though. 145 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:12.800 Yeah, but they they were, And that was like a 146 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:16.079 formative thing for you. I get why that has stuck 147 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:17.040 in there your bible. 148 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:20.279 Never see it. We'll never see a starting pitching staff 149 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:22.040 like that ever. Again. 150 00:07:22.079 --> 00:07:24.120 That mid have one good season? 151 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:28.480 Whatever do? They destroyed it? But AnyWho, that guy, did 152 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:31.279 you do your homework this week? Did you have any epiphanies, 153 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:34.240 come to any realizations, feel a little apologetic for your 154 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:37.399 stance last week at all? A little bit? Now you ap? 155 00:07:37.800 --> 00:07:38.959 Did you watch it? 156 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:41.360 Yeah, it's a huge nothing burger. 157 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:42.360 Oh my god. 158 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:45.720 We're now recognized mister Elizondo for his opening statement. 159 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:48.199 It is my honor and privilege to testify before you 160 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:51.720 on the issue of Unidentified Anomalous phenomenon formerly known as UFOs. 161 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:56.319 Let me be clear, u AP are real advanced technologies 162 00:07:56.399 --> 00:07:58.759 not made by our government or any other government are 163 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:02.639 monitoring sensitive military installations around the globe. Furthermore, the US 164 00:08:02.680 --> 00:08:05.639 is in possession of UAP technologies, as are some of 165 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:07.839 our adversaries. Although much of my government work on the 166 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:11.879 UAP subject still remains classified. Excessive secrecy has led to 167 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:16.800 grave misdeeds against loyal civil servants, military personnel, and the public, 168 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:19.680 all to hide the fact that we are not alone 169 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:21.040 in the cosmos. 170 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:24.480 You'll come around eventually. I'll save you a seat on 171 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:27.720 the ship. Don't worry, my friend, I got you. But 172 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:30.120 what the hell are we doing? We're talking about We're 173 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:33.000 doing the B side show here. We're talking about zero 174 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:36.399 one that maybe not created yet on fan tracks prospects. 175 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:39.320 This will be our fifth out of six installments, going 176 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:41.960 division by division, The rook and I each pick a 177 00:08:42.039 --> 00:08:44.759 hitter and a pitcher from each organization that we think 178 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:47.000 might pop up a little bit this year or gain 179 00:08:47.080 --> 00:08:50.879 some more dynasty utility. Sometimes we come to the same player, 180 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:52.720 and that's always kind of fun and neat. But I 181 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:55.240 think that's surmises it all right, right, Matt. Indeed it 182 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:58.480 is so the Al East talk about it's like the 183 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:01.879 prettiest of pretty boys visions, huh, spending lots of money, 184 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:06.559 lots of fans wastemarter fans out here. But I thought 185 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:08.559 this was a fun one, Matt. I think there's some 186 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:10.919 of my favorite maybe my top arm in my top 187 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:13.679 bat out of all the b sides, reside in this division. 188 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:15.480 But I could see it. There's some good ones. 189 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:16.919 Who do you want to start with? What team you 190 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:17.440 want to start with? 191 00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:22.720 Start with the what I think is the least interesting, 192 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:24.279 which is which is Tampa for me? 193 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:26.600 Okay, I was going to say Red Sox for that, but. 194 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:30.960 Alright, second least is a boss and for sure, but. 195 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:34.559 Tampa Bay Ray's bats. Who you got? Who'd you land on? 196 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:38.440 Well, you know it's worth giving us some props for 197 00:09:38.759 --> 00:09:41.320 our Tampa picks last year, because I thought those were 198 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:45.240 pretty good. Chandler Simpson turned in an awesome year and 199 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:49.200 stole one hundred some bases, struck out less than ten 200 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:51.960 percent of the time, walked in an average amount of time, 201 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:54.360 put up a one forty WRC plus and I think 202 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:56.919 now is starting to get some love, although I think 203 00:09:57.039 --> 00:09:59.320 he's still under owned. When I looked it was like 204 00:09:59.639 --> 00:10:02.759 in your points leagues that penalize K's and especially in 205 00:10:02.799 --> 00:10:05.320 row leagues like as a as a speed option, he 206 00:10:05.399 --> 00:10:07.840 seems under own still. But that was a good one. 207 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:10.879 I was really hoping that because the Rays are such 208 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:13.360 a deep smart system, that they were going to have 209 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:15.159 some of these underappreciated guys. 210 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:15.480 Well. 211 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:17.519 One thing they did is they acquired a bunch of 212 00:10:17.559 --> 00:10:19.919 guys that we've talked about from other systems that we 213 00:10:19.960 --> 00:10:23.639 thought were pretty interesting, and Matt Korvath, Matthew Etzel. I 214 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:25.759 don't know how many other guys that they got, but 215 00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:28.080 quite a few, but all of them have a little 216 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:30.879 bit of popularity, whether because like it's that the old 217 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:33.360 Sam Miller tweet, I love this trade for the Rays. 218 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:35.440 Who they get, who they give up, and people just 219 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:37.639 assume that the Rays know what they're doing. But I 220 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:41.000 was really struggling to find some good options at those 221 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:44.279 zero and one percent range, especially on the back side. 222 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:44.840 I agree. 223 00:10:44.879 --> 00:10:47.399 I looked at a couple of different dudes that were 224 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:50.200 on the younger side, but couldn't wrap my head around 225 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:55.080 their foremance like guys that were decent Narcisso Polanco was 226 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:57.240 a guy that I looked at as like, he's kind 227 00:10:57.240 --> 00:11:01.000 of young, he's been okay, has some traits that I like, 228 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:03.639 but he was still kind of average as a nineteen 229 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:06.279 year old and in low A, And I don't even 230 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:08.799 feel that much better about the guy that I landed on, 231 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:13.279 which is on hell Mateo Mateo, like super similar in 232 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:17.200 lots of ways. His line is almost identical to Polanco's. 233 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:21.080 He went to twenty four three, twenty three, three forty four, 234 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:23.480 and he spent the whole year at a ball, so 235 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:25.440 that was all low A as a nineteen year old. 236 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:27.639 He also struck out twenty five percent of the time, 237 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:30.320 which is like kind of high, especially for what I 238 00:11:30.440 --> 00:11:32.559 like to look for. He did walk a decent amount, 239 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:35.600 swiped twenty six bags, popped six homers, but he also 240 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:37.840 didn't hit a homer for like the last two months 241 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:41.000 of the season, which was a little concerning about is 242 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:43.960 there something wrong here? Is the power just really not there? 243 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:45.960 When I watched him earlier in the year, I was like, Oh, 244 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:48.080 this is sort of an interesting teenager. Maybe he's going 245 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:50.039 to get to ten homers. And there's a little more 246 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:52.120 projection left on the bone and it might just take 247 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:54.200 a little time for him to get there. You know, 248 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:56.879 he's six ' one, reasonably well built. I like some 249 00:11:57.039 --> 00:11:59.360 things about his swing, although it seemed like he got 250 00:11:59.399 --> 00:12:02.559 eaten up sliders away and so that wasn't that was 251 00:12:02.600 --> 00:12:05.480 a little bit discouraging to me. It's more that he's 252 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:10.039 young enough, has shown enough potential that I'm like, and 253 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:11.919 I didn't see anybody else that I wanted to bet 254 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:15.519 on more. So I'm going with Matteo here. Don't feel 255 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:19.080 great about it. I mean, he's again young, has some talent, 256 00:12:19.320 --> 00:12:21.480 and we'll see what he does at Bowling Green next year. 257 00:12:21.559 --> 00:12:26.200 But there's definitely some flaws here and it wasn't super exciting. 258 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:29.320 Olivia going like a little of my default here, just 259 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:32.759 like pick a teenager and a ball. Yeah, I don't know. 260 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:36.200 Sometimes I don't think I had that before, have you. 261 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:38.440 I'm not really And I looked at a couple of 262 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:41.679 their older guys to see, you know, like Seymour was 263 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:43.600 Bob Seymour was one that I think was like at 264 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:46.159 one percent, and I thought maybe he was going to 265 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:50.039 get looked at in the rule five. But I was like, 266 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:53.240 no the for him, at least the upside didn't seem there. 267 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:56.120 Like he seemed like a blow average bat, but like 268 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:59.039 high probability and as a corner guy, probably not going 269 00:12:59.120 --> 00:12:59.440 to play. 270 00:12:59.519 --> 00:13:03.600 So I think Mateo and Polanco, those were two of 271 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:06.679 my last three finalists here, so we weren't too far off. 272 00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:09.360 But I ended up going the first year player route. 273 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:12.240 Oh okay, we're not We're talking in pretty small sample size. 274 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:15.000 This is not a player that I was familiar with 275 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:19.120 as an amateur, but I'm going I'm not really totally 276 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:22.639 sure how to say his name, Matt, but Connor huge 277 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:28.279 sack huge, huge, which really cool, but Connor huge, huge, sick, 278 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:30.240 I think, because how I heard them say it, But 279 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:35.399 it's h u J sak all right, he's an outfielder. 280 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:36.720 How would you say that name? 281 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:37.960 Yeah, you sick? 282 00:13:38.559 --> 00:13:40.759 I think. He started off his college career at VCU 283 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:43.879 and then transferred to Mississippi State the last two seasons. 284 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:46.960 The Rays popped him in the thirteenth round four one 285 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:49.559 hundred and fifty K listened at six ' two, good 286 00:13:49.559 --> 00:13:52.480 sized fella, and shared the video with you there. I 287 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:54.879 was just kind of impressed with his ability to he 288 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:56.919 hit some home runs to all fields. I like to 289 00:13:56.960 --> 00:13:59.320 look at the swings of all of those just twenty 290 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:02.519 one games played appearances, he hit four home runs, he 291 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:06.240 swiped five bags. I don't really know if stolen bases 292 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:08.320 are gonna be a big part of his future. Of 293 00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:11.360 this is just you know, a little wiser baseball player 294 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:14.000 taking advantage of some A ball guys didn't get caught. 295 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:16.320 Walked seven percent of the time, struck out twenty four 296 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:18.960 percent of the time. But you know, decent little debut 297 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:22.279 here to seventy seven three, twenty six, five, eighteen. I 298 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:25.440 know I caught. I'm not even maybe the BA guys. 299 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:27.919 Last couple of weeks I've been listening to their draft 300 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:31.000 class review podcasts, and I think they noted that there 301 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:33.519 was a couple of evs by him over one hundred 302 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:35.919 and ten during his pro debut. So yeah, I don't know, 303 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:37.639 just kind of caught a guy. But I kind of 304 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:40.759 liked the look of his fairly, you know, simple looking 305 00:14:40.840 --> 00:14:42.559 stroke up there. He's got a little bit of a 306 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:44.039 I don't know, how do you say it, a little 307 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:46.600 bit of like a rounded out step, but it's not 308 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:48.679 real big and everything like that. Yeah, I don't know, 309 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:50.879 and now his home runs. What I say he popped 310 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:52.720 four of them, three of them were in one game. 311 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:54.240 Wow. 312 00:14:54.559 --> 00:14:57.000 Yeah, yeah, so you know it was just a concentrated 313 00:14:57.159 --> 00:14:59.360 couple of days of the home run output. But yeah, 314 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:00.960 I don't know a guy who was playing some center 315 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:03.320 field as well. That guy maybe doesn't really look like 316 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:06.679 a center fielder if you're just being superficial about it. 317 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:12.240 But Connor huge Sack, huge sick, I mean eighty grade 318 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:14.720 name and I'll throw them out there as my rais 319 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:16.840 B side this year? Solid solid? 320 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:18.879 Did he end up only a little bit? I caught 321 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:20.720 a couple of his games late in the season, but 322 00:15:21.320 --> 00:15:24.080 I can't say he stood out when I was just 323 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:25.000 scrolling through guys. 324 00:15:25.159 --> 00:15:26.840 And I don't know if I mentioned he's right handed, 325 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:29.679 I'll share videos. I got videos of his home runs 326 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:32.559 here on Twitter at Pitching Specs. Check that out if 327 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:34.039 you if you want to take a look at what 328 00:15:34.039 --> 00:15:35.159 we're trying to talk about. 329 00:15:34.919 --> 00:15:37.200 Here, Yeah, who did you go for for your arm? 330 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:40.600 Yeah, I'm kind of into my arm here quite a bit. 331 00:15:40.639 --> 00:15:43.080 But let's let's look at their system here real quick, Matt. 332 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:44.919 The pretty boys. There's kind of a lot of pretty 333 00:15:44.919 --> 00:15:47.320 boys in this system. Yell at me if somebody got 334 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:51.440 traded here recently. But Dylan LESCo thirty one percent, Santiago 335 00:15:51.519 --> 00:15:55.720 Suarez fourteen percent, Carut twelve percent, Ty Johnson ten, Gary 336 00:15:55.720 --> 00:15:57.759 Gil hill Am I picked from last year, ten, pul 337 00:15:57.759 --> 00:16:02.480 Wilcox ten, Ian Seymour ten, Jackson Baumeister, ten, Brody Hopkins eight. 338 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:06.840 Nick Bitsko is he even like a professional baseball player anymore? 339 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:07.519 I have no idea. 340 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:08.399 I couldn't tell you. 341 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:12.320 Yeah, seven percent, tre j Goss three percent, Trevor Martin, 342 00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:15.759 Joe Rock three percent, Trevor Harrison two percent, and I 343 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:18.000 think Owen Wild I don't know. I have two to 344 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:19.759 one percent here, so I don't know. Oh, he was 345 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:22.279 two percent of the beginning of September, one percent at the end. 346 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:25.519 But you know that's a that's a healthy slew of somewhat, 347 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:28.399 you know, having some dynasty love out there. But I'm 348 00:16:28.440 --> 00:16:31.639 going with another teenager, Matt eighteen year old and a 349 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:34.720 ball Jose Orbina. Are you familiar. 350 00:16:34.879 --> 00:16:35.879 I saw a little bit of him. 351 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:38.799 Yeah, yeah, I had to hit up Clegg today. 352 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:41.639 Little guy right like smaller, smaller frame. 353 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:44.720 No, no, no, no. He was one percent roster, And 354 00:16:44.759 --> 00:16:46.480 so there's some folks on there. I think he was 355 00:16:46.519 --> 00:16:49.200 twenty ninth on Pipeline's list the last time I checked. 356 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:52.840 He was eighteen point eight years old last his last start, 357 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:56.200 but he's listed at six three. Maybe maybe that's a 358 00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:59.360 little bit generous, but I know that the story is 359 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:02.200 with her being that he You know, they signed what 360 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:05.599 he signed in twenty twenty three, so not that long ago. 361 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:08.079 After he signed, there was like a big growth spurt here, 362 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:11.440 so got much taller and the velocity is like really 363 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:14.359 ticked up. Venezuelan. He was signed for just two hundred 364 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:17.839 and ten K. Last year, he pitched forty eight complex 365 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:22.400 innings and then just seventeen a ball innings, four appearances, 366 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:25.640 four starts eer A five twenty nine but a whip 367 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:28.680 of one point zero six in a ball here four 368 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:31.519 two two x fip struck out just eighteen point two percent, 369 00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:34.480 walked six point one percent, which was nice because in 370 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:37.319 a complex it was at twelve percent. Now, granted, again 371 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:39.880 this is very small sample size, but I did not 372 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:44.160 mind his execution. Now granted, I think his attack was 373 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:47.839 fairly simple, and my watches it was a good fastball 374 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:50.640 and slider. I think he was just kind of generically 375 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:53.279 throwing up in the zone for strikes, but doing that 376 00:17:53.319 --> 00:17:55.960 consistently and doing that well. I kind of wonder I'd 377 00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:58.160 love to hear about his slider shape a little bit 378 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:00.440 because I wonder if it's one that kind of gets 379 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:03.000 some ride, like erkulanis that we were like kind of 380 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:06.519 talking about. Yeah, but just playing his ninety five ninety 381 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:09.400 six mile per hour fastball within that firm mid mid 382 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:12.119 eighties slider just up in the zone was just really 383 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:15.359 kind of dominating these guys. He did throw in what 384 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:18.000 I thought was a pretty good looking curveball sometimes and 385 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:19.799 then there was a change up. I think the change 386 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:22.200 up is very much a developmental pitch at this time. 387 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:23.880 I think the ones that I caught there was like 388 00:18:23.920 --> 00:18:26.079 they were executed so poorly. You couldn't even like look 389 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:27.920 at this shape, like it was just like hitting the 390 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:29.480 dirt or something, you know what I mean. So I 391 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:32.559 think that's very much a work in progress. Yeah, yeah, four, 392 00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:36.119 start saying at a ball. He went four and three of 393 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:38.200 them five and one. You know, it didn't get really 394 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:40.559 hit up too much. There was one one out he 395 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:42.880 gave up five to turns, but he earned. But he 396 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:46.160 didn't walk more than two in an outing, struck out three, two, two, 397 00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:48.359 and five. And now he did give up some home runs. 398 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:50.119 I know a couple of those were just and he 399 00:18:50.160 --> 00:18:51.839 was just trying to get some fastballs up in the 400 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:53.599 zone and he just got him over the meat of 401 00:18:53.599 --> 00:18:56.640 the plate. But you can see the operation, like the 402 00:18:56.759 --> 00:19:00.000 video that I shared, it's, I mean, it's fairly easy 403 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:01.519 ninety six I think. 404 00:19:01.920 --> 00:19:04.200 Is it a good ninety six though? I mean like 405 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:08.440 he's in low A against a bunch of bitty teenagers 406 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:12.119 and he pushed up twenty percent of guys, Like, what's 407 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:13.000 what's up with that? 408 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:17.240 I think in part was the sequence of pitching pitches, like, 409 00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:19.519 oh there was a hit a ble ninety six over 410 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:21.119 the heart of the plate here and they got some 411 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:23.960 wood on it. You know, it's very much just it's 412 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:27.079 this is very much eyeballs to me, not really so much. 413 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:31.599 Numbers is very minuscule sample size, right, but what was 414 00:19:31.599 --> 00:19:35.039 his k rate in the complex? Twenty one point seven percent, 415 00:19:35.079 --> 00:19:37.680 so not much higher. But I mean, if you wanted to, 416 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:41.200 if we rewind a year ago, like watching Gary gil 417 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:44.720 Hill like way more excited about her being and stuff 418 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:47.160 than Gary gil Hill's at that time. And we know 419 00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:50.039 we know that the rays will sharpen a you know, 420 00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:51.640 a lot of times I think they like to focus 421 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:54.559 on on one weapon there, guys, and really get the 422 00:19:54.599 --> 00:19:56.240 most out of that one pitch that they can. But 423 00:19:56.400 --> 00:19:58.559 I don't know an eighteen year old ball of clay 424 00:19:58.599 --> 00:20:01.720 here in this system that I I think could very 425 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:04.880 well pop up this year. Jose Rbina, It's. 426 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:07.000 An interesting one, you know. Like I said, I think 427 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:10.079 there's some he's got some potential in there. I'm curious 428 00:20:10.119 --> 00:20:14.720 why the results haven't been there. I'm going again more 429 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:20.000 towards my pensiont I'm going older and to the near, 430 00:20:20.039 --> 00:20:23.440 to the big arms here, I'm picking Logan Workman. I 431 00:20:23.480 --> 00:20:26.440 think I might have taken Wild if i'd known he 432 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:28.519 was at one percent, because when I looked, I thought 433 00:20:28.519 --> 00:20:31.039 it was like three or four. So I might slightly 434 00:20:31.079 --> 00:20:35.720 prefer Wild in a vacuum, just a little bit younger, 435 00:20:35.880 --> 00:20:38.960 and I think might have a little touch, more touch, 436 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:41.759 more upside in the long run. I thought he was 437 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:43.759 really good, and we talked a bit about him coming 438 00:20:43.759 --> 00:20:45.799 out of the draft last year, so don't need to 439 00:20:46.039 --> 00:20:49.640 belabor that. But among the really interesting arms, you listed 440 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:52.119 off a bunch of them, you know, Ian Seymour had 441 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:54.960 a phenomenal triple A run at that ended in Triple 442 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:58.880 A this year. Yaniel Corrett, he was awesome too. Oh 443 00:20:58.960 --> 00:21:03.079 and Wild. I thought was a good get from the 444 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:06.960 O's this year. Hi Johnson, Brody Hopkins also in trade. 445 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:09.640 Like they had a lot of good pitchers that had 446 00:21:09.720 --> 00:21:13.279 really good seasons too, but Workmen stood out for me 447 00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:16.599 as in this B side range, I think he was 448 00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:19.440 either zero or one percent when I looked. He's spent 449 00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:20.920 a lot of the year in TRIPA, so we got 450 00:21:20.920 --> 00:21:22.640 to see a lot of data on him, and so 451 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:24.880 it was really fun digging into what he had there. 452 00:21:25.160 --> 00:21:28.200 His fastballs ninety to ninety five, but it actually plays 453 00:21:28.279 --> 00:21:30.039 better than that, I think, And I actually think he 454 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:32.880 got a little unlucky in his results this year based 455 00:21:32.920 --> 00:21:36.559 on some of the pitch shapes and the amount of 456 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:39.640 swinging strikes that he was getting. He really commanded that 457 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:42.440 fastball well and so even though he's like averaging it 458 00:21:42.480 --> 00:21:44.799 in ninety two to ninety three, I think that's playing 459 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:48.480 up pretty consistently. He's also got a change up that 460 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:50.839 he goes to and throws quite a lot, and I 461 00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:53.200 thought was quite a good pitch. I think he liked 462 00:21:53.240 --> 00:21:55.440 it his second most after his fastball, and then he 463 00:21:55.480 --> 00:21:58.119 also was a slider and cutter, but those blended a 464 00:21:58.119 --> 00:22:00.279 little bit. For me, I thought they could get a 465 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:02.839 little bit close to each other, and with you know, 466 00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:05.519 a little bit sharper execution, he might separate those a 467 00:22:05.519 --> 00:22:08.640 bit more. Especially on the slider. I thought that sometimes 468 00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:11.039 he would lose the action, so rather than getting that 469 00:22:11.079 --> 00:22:14.119 good sharp sweeping bite that it would float, he would 470 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:16.559 kind of get under it, and I think he let 471 00:22:16.599 --> 00:22:20.039 that get hit sometimes. Did also like watching him start 472 00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:22.880 to start, especially in Tirpla with the stack cast data, 473 00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:25.759 you could see him adjust his approach and his pitch 474 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:28.279 mix from start to start. Whereas a lot of guys 475 00:22:28.319 --> 00:22:30.160 you throw them on enough and you're like they're going 476 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:33.279 to be fifty percent fastballs, twenty five percent sliders, ten 477 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:36.920 percent curveballs, and ten percent change ups. Workman start to 478 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:40.319 start he would change how he was attacking hitters and 479 00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:42.680 how he was attacking lineups. He didn't get picked in 480 00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:45.400 the Rule five, and he was eligible this year. I 481 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:47.559 thought he had an outside chance to and I think 482 00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:51.039 he popped up on ba's Rule five draft prep list 483 00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:53.119 that they thought he might get a look from a 484 00:22:53.119 --> 00:22:55.720 team that wanted a depth starter. I think that there's 485 00:22:55.759 --> 00:22:58.279 not a ton of upside here. He looks like a 486 00:22:58.319 --> 00:23:00.839 high probability back end started to me. But it looks 487 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:03.079 good enough that I think he's going to get that shot. 488 00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:05.839 And whether that ends up being with Tampa or he 489 00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:09.720 ends up somewhere else in trade or in free agency, 490 00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:12.200 I'm not sure. But Logan Workman for me, was my 491 00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:14.839 favorite of the one percent arms here, and I do 492 00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:17.799 think there's a lot to like about his pitch mix 493 00:23:17.880 --> 00:23:18.720 and his approach. 494 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:20.400 Yeah, it was kind of surprised to see that he 495 00:23:20.519 --> 00:23:23.400 was zero percent rostered in September, because I know what 496 00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:27.240 would that be the twenty twenty three AFL season he was, 497 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:30.359 there was some buzz and some talk about Logan Workmen, 498 00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:32.559 so I guess folks just didn't hang on to that 499 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:34.640 through the year. Yeah, Matt, just one more thing I 500 00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:37.200 wanted to say about Urbina, Like, you know, you watch, 501 00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:40.400 like I mentioned last week, starting to think more about Like, Okay, 502 00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:45.200 I watched these young international teenage prospects, right pitching prospects, 503 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:47.160 and you can kind of watch them side by side 504 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:49.960 with some first round prep arms that could taken and 505 00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:53.319 I'm like, man, this Urbina's like just seems so much 506 00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:56.079 better to me than some first round prep arms that 507 00:23:56.960 --> 00:23:59.319 have been taken lately, So I don't know for whatever 508 00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:01.160 that's worth. I was just kind of thinking about that. 509 00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:02.680 I was like, man, this guy would probably be like 510 00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:04.759 a first second round pick if that's how it had 511 00:24:04.759 --> 00:24:06.880 to be. But what do I know about that stuff? 512 00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:13.839 All right? The Boston Red Sox, their most popular arms 513 00:24:13.880 --> 00:24:18.680 are Dick Fitz thirteen percent, well, Wickleman Gonzalez just got traded, 514 00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:22.480 so he was at ten percent, where Donnie Manegro ten percent, 515 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:26.240 Luis Paralis eight percent, David Sanlin also just got traded 516 00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:30.559 six percent, Jetkson Payez three percent, your boy from last year, 517 00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:33.720 Isaac Coffee three percent, and then Elmer Rodriguez Cruz he 518 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:37.359 also got traded at two percent. Everybody else was zero 519 00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:40.640 one percent here, And I will admit that my guy 520 00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:44.279 might be number thirty on my thirty B side arms 521 00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:46.960 I had if I had to line them all up, 522 00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:48.960 I did not come away. I don't know, I'm super 523 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:51.920 excited about anybody here at this roster percentage. Maybe it 524 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:54.200 would have been wiser to go with a first year 525 00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:57.359 player draft arm, but they didn't really have many debut 526 00:24:57.519 --> 00:25:00.279 I don't think, and it's always kind of t you 527 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:03.400 to know what their actual roster percentages are going to 528 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:05.240 be after drafts and stuff. 529 00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:07.720 But I could have could have gone Joey Gartreel based 530 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:09.960 on my live looks University of Portland guy. 531 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:13.519 That's right, that's right. I've just never seen him pitch. 532 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:19.160 Also, I've also I've also heard good things about Peyton Tully. 533 00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:21.279 His one looks interesting. 534 00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:23.640 But yeah, he's the one who's got like the like 535 00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:27.400 twenty foot extension rights. Yeah, have seven point three feet 536 00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:27.839 or something. 537 00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:32.759 Picked coffee last year because he was super unusual performer. 538 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:36.640 The stuff is like eighty nine and tops out at 539 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:39.240 like ninety one. But I still think that that's going 540 00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:42.319 to play because of how weird his arm angle and 541 00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:45.119 approach to the plate is. I do love to start 542 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:47.000 with the data and what is the data telling us? 543 00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:50.400 And dude punched out thirty percent of batters in double A, 544 00:25:50.599 --> 00:25:53.559 So I still think that he's flummoxing hitters and is 545 00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:55.880 going to keep doing it. But you know, we'll see 546 00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:58.480 how that how that ends up as he climbs the ranks, 547 00:25:58.519 --> 00:26:01.240 and I'm super curious to see how that goes apparently 548 00:26:01.279 --> 00:26:03.920 nobody is buying it, but keeps putting up numbers. So 549 00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:06.640 we'll see. Looked at a couple of other guys that 550 00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:11.559 I think we've talked about before. Hunter Dobbins. He's one 551 00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:13.000 that we looked at last year, and I think some 552 00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:15.440 people still like I'm just not I couldn't ever get 553 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:17.799 myself that excited about it. It seems he was so 554 00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:21.359 much better this year than he was better, but it 555 00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:25.279 still just looks so back endy to me, like seventh starter. 556 00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:26.519 Maybe that's good enough. 557 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:28.240 I don't know. But do a lot of men look 558 00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:29.000 back indy too? 559 00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:32.720 Yeah, a lot of pictures too. You know, I was 560 00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:36.000 really excited about the guy that I ended up landing on, 561 00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:39.240 though I'm going with Connolly early. You watch much of 562 00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:39.920 early this year. 563 00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:43.440 I did watch some earlies on my sheet here, but 564 00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:46.279 tell me about him because didn't spark my interest for 565 00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:47.960 whatever reason. But what am I missing? 566 00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:48.400 Yeah? 567 00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:54.000 So he's another guy that I think the Velocity readings 568 00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:56.519 are are kind of lying to us or tricking us, 569 00:26:56.599 --> 00:26:58.720 or setting us on the wrong course. I don't know 570 00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:01.160 if we talked about this a while ago, and I 571 00:27:01.160 --> 00:27:03.599 can't remember what who who said this? 572 00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:03.960 Either. 573 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:06.000 So this is already a terrible start to the story. 574 00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:10.039 But somebody said that they think that pitching development would 575 00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:14.359 have been much improved if we didn't get the radar 576 00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:18.519 gun first, right. The radar gun was the first concrete 577 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:22.359 number that we could attach to pictures in picture evaluation. 578 00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:23.880 You know what. With hitters, it was like, I. 579 00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:26.079 Love that world. I think that sounds like a great world. 580 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:28.319 With hitters, it was like how far could they hit 581 00:27:28.359 --> 00:27:30.599 the ball? How fast could they run? We could measure 582 00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:33.359 both of those things, but we couldn't really measure how 583 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:36.880 hard pitchers were throwing and how effective the pitches were 584 00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:39.240 with numbers. We could do it with our eyes and 585 00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:43.119 with the scouting reports. But once we got the radar gun, 586 00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:46.880 that really like anchored people's opinions. And I think we 587 00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:50.519 see that's true of guys like Isaac Coffee, and I 588 00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:52.359 think it is true of lots of guys who like, 589 00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:54.640 they flashed ninety nine on the gun and they're like, oh, 590 00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:57.559 that's Carlos le Grange is really good, hemer Lalani is 591 00:27:57.599 --> 00:28:00.240 really good. Well, they can actually get guys out out, 592 00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:02.480 but you know they're they're really good because they can 593 00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:05.160 throw hard conn only early to me, it is a 594 00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:06.960 good example of this. I think he sits in the 595 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:11.319 low nineties. It's like ninety one average. Maybe he's a lefty, athletic, 596 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:15.000 kind of six y three, prototypical pitcher looking guy, you know, 597 00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:17.160 off the bus kind of thing. You watch him, and 598 00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:19.599 if you don't, if you're not looking at the velocity, 599 00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:22.680 you're like, none of these fucking guys can hit this fastball. 600 00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:25.000 He just keeps throwing it in the middle of the plate. 601 00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:27.559 And sure a lot of this was at High A 602 00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:30.640 and Double A. He was about two thirds at High 603 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:32.599 A this year and a third at Double A this year. 604 00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:35.920 But he just kept throwing this low nineties fastball that 605 00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:38.920 if you're not kind of looking closely, you'd be like, oh, 606 00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:42.480 this isn't that interesting, And yet he kept punching people 607 00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:46.039 out with it. I think that the arm angle and 608 00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:49.160 extension make it play up. I think I saw some 609 00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:51.839 note maybe from the BA guys that it's not an 610 00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:54.920 IVB monster or anything. It's not like a super spinny 611 00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:58.759 low a super spinny pitch. But because the angle is 612 00:28:58.799 --> 00:29:02.079 maybe a little lower then you would expect, it doesn't 613 00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.720 need to have great iv B to look really different. 614 00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:08.119 And that pitch plays like it is really really good, 615 00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:12.039 and he also has good command. We're not just talking 616 00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:15.799 about a thrower up there. He's especially of his fastball. 617 00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:18.799 I thought he commanded that exceptionally well in my looks, 618 00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:21.400 and you know, he rounds it out with a couple 619 00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:24.799 of different breaking balls. His slider in particular looked pretty good. 620 00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:27.079 I wonder if he has kind of two like a 621 00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:30.160 sweepery one and a more curve gyro kind of slider, 622 00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:32.039 because it looked like he could go a couple of 623 00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:34.839 different directions with it. A change up as well, that 624 00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:37.200 really good. Like he got a ton of ground balls 625 00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:39.519 with that thing, especially later in the year, it looked 626 00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:41.640 like he was using it more to like people would 627 00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:43.559 be kind of like, oh, I'm sitting on this fastball 628 00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:46.000 that for some reason can't touch, and then he would 629 00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:48.160 throw a change up and get a softly hit ground 630 00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:50.920 ball to the left side, easy out. He's really good. 631 00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:53.240 He was a fifth rounder out of Virginia, so Uva 632 00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:56.640 like big baseball school, but wasn't great there. I think 633 00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:59.960 was seen as like kind of a back end developmental project. 634 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:02.440 I don't know whether some of this is the pitch 635 00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:05.759 shapes development that the red Sox did this year with 636 00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:09.359 Reslo and the new regime, but early to me looked 637 00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:12.960 absolutely phenomenal, and he was doing it with ease. At 638 00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:15.759 Double A. He gave up one home run in thirty 639 00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:19.039 six innings at Double A, six in sixty seven at 640 00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:22.920 High A. Man was sixteen point four percent swinging strike 641 00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.799 rate at Double A, fifteen point seven at High A. 642 00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:29.640 He's punching out thirty point seven percent of batters on 643 00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:32.839 the year with an average league average walk rate. You know, 644 00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:36.440 he's among the best K minus BB guys in the 645 00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:38.039 miners this year, and he was doing it at the 646 00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:41.079 mid to uppers for a pretty unherlded guy. You know, again, 647 00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:45.559 I think he was zero percent owned. He was percent Yeah, 648 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:47.559 I had one percent here too. And you know how 649 00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:50.240 I mentioned how excited I was about Chad Patrick last week, 650 00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:54.200 how the sharpest guy in my favorite league is a 651 00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:57.039 buddy of mine. He's got Chad Patrick. Of course, when 652 00:30:57.039 --> 00:30:59.079 I was looking and doing my research on this at 653 00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:01.680 the end of the season, who has Connolly Early, same 654 00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:02.440 freaking guy. 655 00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:05.240 So we get that guy on the pod man. 656 00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:06.960 We should? We should. He'd be a fun one to 657 00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:11.680 come on. He's super sharp and his his his talent 658 00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:14.720 evaluation skills are really really good. I think Early is 659 00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:18.079 being massively slept on and I don't know, there's there's 660 00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:20.200 a couple of other arms that I'm really really excited 661 00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:22.400 about from this crew, but he's up there. I mean, 662 00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:25.519 this is I am as excited about Early on my 663 00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:28.440 B side arms as I am about really anybody else 664 00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:29.680 like he's. He is up there. 665 00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:33.319 Interesting. Do you know Clegg's pretty tapped in, tuned into 666 00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:36.279 the red sox system and recently wrote them up. Do 667 00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:38.680 you know if he was on Clegg's list or if 668 00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:41.119 Clegg had anything any four one one on him? 669 00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:45.759 No idea, no idea. I haven't looked at his ass lists. 670 00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:48.759 Right well, I am not nearly as excited for mine, 671 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:51.200 and this will be the last time tonight, but I 672 00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:54.119 am going with another teenager. I'm gonna go with young 673 00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:58.440 Juan Valera percent rostered. Like I said before, this is 674 00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:00.240 if I had to line them all up, this probably 675 00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:02.400 number thirty on my list. But I don't think it's 676 00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:05.920 because of lack of talent or lack of something interesting, 677 00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:08.160 or lack of a way that it could work and 678 00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:10.519 go well. I think all thirty of my guys have 679 00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:13.720 that he's listed at sixty three. He was a twenty 680 00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:16.960 twenty three international free agent out of the Dominican time 681 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:19.640 for forty five thousand, forty and a third innings in 682 00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:23.400 the complex this last season, twenty three innings over seven 683 00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:27.319 starts able at Greenville two point three five era A 684 00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.160 one whip A three point four to eight x fIF 685 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:33.880 a thirty one point one K percentage to a fifteen 686 00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:37.680 point six percent walk percentage ouch, but in the Complex 687 00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:40.400 it was nine percent, so not nearly as bad, but 688 00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:44.599 again small samples. At Greenville, hitters hit one eighteen against them, 689 00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:48.440 got a good amount of ground balls fifty nine percent 690 00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:51.640 according to fangrafs, the swing strike rate of fifteen point 691 00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:54.000 seven percent, So like other than the walk rate, there 692 00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:57.319 are some pretty nice numbers in his little uh full 693 00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:01.519 season debut. But I will say, unlike Orbina or several 694 00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:05.359 others that I mentioned, the numbers were a lot prettier 695 00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:09.079 than the video looks to me. But this is arm talent, right, 696 00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:10.920 I mean, this is a guy who can get up 697 00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:15.039 there ninety five. There's something that he's throwing at ninety 698 00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:18.160 there's a breaking ball. Mean yeah, Like the video starts 699 00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:20.599 off with like a backed up slider. I think that 700 00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:23.480 happened quite a bit. There's a fastball not I hit 701 00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:26.200 ninety seven, like a lot of pitchers in their system. 702 00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:30.119 There's a splitter being worked one right. There's a curveball, 703 00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:33.599 a firmer curveball at like eighty six, but maybe they 704 00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:35.519 call it a slider. I don't know, a breaking ball, 705 00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:37.599 what have you. My looks with him is like he 706 00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.160 could very much look the part for like a batter 707 00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:43.079 or half a batter, but like then the non competitive 708 00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:45.279 pitches would just come out, you know what I mean. 709 00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:47.319 Like it was just way way too much for me 710 00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:49.640 to get like two two into him. But again we're 711 00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:52.279 talking about an eighteen year old ball clay here. Plenty 712 00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:54.640 of arm talent, not anyone that I want to rush 713 00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:57.359 out and roster or draft or anything like that, but 714 00:33:57.400 --> 00:33:59.640 definitely one that I will keep an eye on. And yeah, 715 00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:02.880 I could see a guy that talented getting it together 716 00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:05.000 a little bit and having some more success and getting 717 00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:08.000 more polished. I do have to say the Red Sox 718 00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:10.159 system the last several years kind of like b side 719 00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:12.599 in front arm. I haven't really loved a lot of guys, 720 00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:15.559 but they have they have had I feel like just 721 00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:18.559 just young teenagers in the lowers with a lot of 722 00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:21.920 arm talent, and they got those guys cleaned up and 723 00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:24.679 executing way better than I ever would have bet on 724 00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:28.280 guys like Juan Daniel and Canarcion guy today who got 725 00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:32.119 drafted in the five draft on hell Bastardo, Like, I 726 00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:35.239 think they were way more feral looking. Maybe they were 727 00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:38.480 a little bit older, but during their like A ball debuts. 728 00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:40.800 So you know, I think there's some cleaning up that 729 00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:43.000 the Red Sox do with some guys. So I don't 730 00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:45.320 think that I'm gonna worry too much about his walk 731 00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:48.920 percentage and non competitive pitches at this juncture. 732 00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:50.880 Yeah, that might be a good beat. And they've got 733 00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:53.320 quite a few guys that have that kind of talent 734 00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:56.239 and ceiling and if they can just harness the wax, 735 00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:58.920 I meane Mullins, is that guy, your guy from last 736 00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:02.320 year and he did, you know, kept punching people out 737 00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:04.920 this year and was okay with the walks still a 738 00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:06.480 little bit higher than you'd like to see. 739 00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:08.880 But my hope with him is, like we're still talking 740 00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:11.039 about a guy who has not pitched very much over 741 00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:14.280 the last several years, so maybe maybe that can bring 742 00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:17.599 some hope. Maybe that's just a fool stream, but yeah, 743 00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:21.320 all right, the Bats, Red Sox Bats. I didn't come 744 00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:24.639 up with someone I love a ton, but I am 745 00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:30.199 gonna go with young Nelly Taylor. Not probably like my 746 00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:33.159 kind of bet here, but I think there's some things 747 00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:35.719 to like and hope on. He was twenty one last year. 748 00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:39.039 Played center field, lefty. Listed at six foot. He was 749 00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:41.519 an eleventh round pick in twenty twenty three out of 750 00:35:41.639 --> 00:35:43.800 Junior College in Florida. One hundred and one games in 751 00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:47.119 A ball, ten games in High A this season. Strikeouts 752 00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:50.199 probably the swing and miss stuff probably the biggest, you know, 753 00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:52.920 wart Here twenty five point one percent on the season. 754 00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:55.840 It was thirty one point seven percent in his short 755 00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:59.360 High A stint on the year. Nothing too remarkable on 756 00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:03.239 the surface, numbers two thirty three, three thirty seven, three 757 00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:06.639 seventy six slash. But even though he struck out more, 758 00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.360 that slash plan was much more attractive in his small 759 00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:12.079 high sample size two eighty nine, three forty one, five 760 00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:14.679 point fifty three eight home runs on the season, stole 761 00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.800 thirty three bases on the season. But I think ultimately 762 00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.239 matt Here is like an athletic guy a strong guy, 763 00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:24.320 maybe just a little b side hope on a power 764 00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:27.000 speed Brett And I know that I'm not the only 765 00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:30.360 stand I think Maddy Backpack is is a Nelly Taylor 766 00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:33.480 hopeful too, but real strong, powerful lower half. I think 767 00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:35.559 he uses it well in his swing, and I don't know, 768 00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:37.400 maybe he was coming into his own just a little 769 00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.000 bit down the stretch here. Not anyone I'm rostering, not 770 00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:43.159 anyone I am drafting, but somebody that I got my 771 00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:45.039 eye on, and if it goes well, I think it 772 00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:45.800 go really well. 773 00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:48.119 Yeah. I thought similarly of Taylor. He was one of 774 00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:50.559 the couple that I was looking at as well. I 775 00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:53.920 didn't love any of the options at the low roster 776 00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:58.159 percentages here for Boston. I think when Boston's guys blow up, 777 00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:01.280 they're either really really good or they get pretty quickly. Yeah, 778 00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:03.880 but yeah, No, Taylor's a decent shout. I'm going to 779 00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:06.719 Andy Lugo for a lot of the same reasons. He's 780 00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:11.679 you know, a level below Nellie Taylor and similarly has 781 00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:14.719 decent speed, decent athlete. I'm not sure he has a 782 00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.280 defensive home. You know, they played him all over the 783 00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:21.440 place already, and he's pretty young and He's played left field, 784 00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:24.599 third base, right field, first base, and I don't know 785 00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:26.480 if he's that good, and I think he's even played 786 00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:28.480 some second I just don't know if he's good at 787 00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:30.159 any of them. I watched a little bit of his 788 00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:33.000 decent defense, but not enough to make a real strong 789 00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:35.639 case one way or the other. But given he's had 790 00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:38.800 a penchant for errors, I tend to think that this 791 00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:41.239 is kind of like they're trying to find him a home. 792 00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:43.320 Is one of those guys that kind of looks better 793 00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:46.800 than his statistical performance. I think, like you watch him swing, he's, 794 00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:49.920 you know, six ' two or so, kind of lean. 795 00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.679 You think maybe there's some projection there. He's still just 796 00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:56.480 twenty he'll be twenty one next year and likely and 797 00:37:56.719 --> 00:37:59.360 Hi A, I think that's kind of a it'll be 798 00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:02.519 a real statement ear for Lugo. If he starts to 799 00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:05.159 hit for a little more power and keeps running like 800 00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:07.400 he does, that could be a really interesting bat here. 801 00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:09.559 It's pretty aggressive as a hitter, and I think that 802 00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:13.719 gets into troublesometimes. But he did hit a decent number 803 00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:15.920 of doubles, so I think maybe there's a little bit 804 00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:18.519 more power than the three homers and four hundred plate 805 00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:21.400 appearances would suggest, but his line of two sixty three, 806 00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:24.039 three thirty seven, three seventy one has nothing to write 807 00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:26.760 home about. And like you, I'm not brushing out to 808 00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:28.880 roster him. It's more like, let me put a pin 809 00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:31.159 in this guy and watch him early next year to 810 00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:33.480 see if he's put on a little bit more game 811 00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:35.800 power and maybe maybe there's something here. 812 00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:38.559 Yeah, you know, well, red Socks are gaining the reputation 813 00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:42.360 of being the bat speed folks up in everyone's bat speed. 814 00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:44.480 So I don't know, Yeah, maybe maybe he can do that. 815 00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:46.440 Yeah, I think they've done that with some guys, But 816 00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:48.559 that that wraps up the Red Sox, right. 817 00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:51.360 Yeah, they or the or the Rays I think were 818 00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:54.440 the least interesting. I think all of the next guys 819 00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:56.480 that we're going to talk about are are fascinating in 820 00:38:56.480 --> 00:38:57.159 one way or another. 821 00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:00.039 I agree, let's do the Orioles. 822 00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:02.519 Matte nasty with it. These are I think we'll we'll 823 00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:04.599 talk about it. But there there are so many fun 824 00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:07.920 places to go in the Oriole system. 825 00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:09.719 I think, so let's start on the arm side. You 826 00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:13.159 look at their roster percentages, like they are so unpopular 827 00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:17.039 of an arm system, do not understand that no, Chase 828 00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:20.840 McDermott twenty four percent, and then nobody was above three 829 00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:24.519 percent in September in their system. Prospect wise, Louis staleone 830 00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:27.840 trace Bright were three percent, Michael Ferrett two percent, Patrick 831 00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:31.119 Riiley two percent, pe For Morphy two percent, Brandon Young 832 00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:33.480 two percent. Do one. Nunez get popped today in the 833 00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:36.000 real five draft. I thought he did. He was one percent. 834 00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:39.800 Alex fam Is one was one percent. The guy I'm 835 00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:42.559 gonna go with was at zero percent in September, and 836 00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:48.000 it's ludicrous. I'm going with Nestor German nice who might 837 00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:51.039 be my number one arm might be my number one 838 00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:54.360 pick when we draft, might be my my pick. Now, 839 00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.119 obviously this is a long shot bet. But if someone's 840 00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:01.079 gonna Christian Scott or Zebbie Matthews this year, Meser Germans 841 00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:03.039 my pick, I don't know what kind of odds you 842 00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:04.519 might give me on that sort of bet, but I 843 00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:06.679 might take. I don't know if you've watched a lot 844 00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:09.599 of German, which I wanted to say, I wanted to 845 00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:12.480 say Herman, but they were pronouncing that German. But he's 846 00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:14.760 from up by kind of your neck of the woods. 847 00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:18.079 He went to the University of Sattle. You or Seattle you. Yeah, Well, 848 00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:20.079 I'm sorry, maybe he was. Maybe he was one percent 849 00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:22.679 rostered in September. My apologies, Matt, Well he was. He 850 00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:25.599 was zero percent in the beginning of September, one percent 851 00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:27.159 at the end of September. And I know that he's 852 00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:29.719 only rostered in one of my leagues when he was 853 00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:31.840 twenty two and a half years old. His last start, 854 00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:34.960 he's listed at six three. He's a righty eleventh round 855 00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:38.400 twenty twenty three pick out of Seattle. He spent twenty 856 00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:41.119 twenty four throwing forty eight and a third innings in 857 00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:43.440 a ball and then twenty five and a third innings 858 00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:45.920 in high A. Now watching pictures. I don't know if 859 00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:48.239 this plays into some of the lack of popularity, but 860 00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:50.599 watching pictures in this system and the lowers is a 861 00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:53.440 little tough. There's not like great broadcasts to do it, 862 00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:55.639 at least their home broadcasts. So that was a little 863 00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:57.960 bit of a trick watching German, but it did not 864 00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:01.840 deter me from coming away with some pretty high opinions. 865 00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:05.519 I think German is a poster child of sorts for 866 00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:08.039 draft a good pitcher and hope that the stuff gets 867 00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:10.519 better because the stuff over the course of the season 868 00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:14.480 got way better. They added velocity, life throws, a good 869 00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:18.199 firm slider, like, all of it got better. His season 870 00:41:18.280 --> 00:41:21.320 nine seventy three and two thirds one five nine ERA 871 00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:23.360 a point nine to four whip a two point sixty 872 00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:26.119 three x FIP, thirty one point four K percentage of 873 00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:30.000 five point nine walk percentage. That's not too shabby, Matt. 874 00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:33.639 The very very good hitters hit one ninety three against him, 875 00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:37.519 ground ball percentage of almost fifty percent, didn't give up 876 00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:40.039 a lot of home runs through strikes at a sixty 877 00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:42.840 five percent clip. Now, maybe another part is, you know 878 00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:46.360 he's piggybacking. Was piggybacking? You know they do that in 879 00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:47.760 that system. They have a lot of guys they want 880 00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:50.440 to get innings too. After he moved up to Hi A, 881 00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:53.800 he didn't technically start any game in High A, but 882 00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:56.199 he did go three four and two thirds four three 883 00:41:56.199 --> 00:41:58.880 and two thirds, four and four innings pitched in those 884 00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:02.119 one two three what outings? I think the fastball is 885 00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:04.960 probably like I don't know, ninety five ninety six. It 886 00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:07.119 was really good from sledder. Like I mentioned, there's a 887 00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:09.800 curve ball as well that I think looks pretty nasty. 888 00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:11.960 I don't know if the change up. The change up 889 00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:14.679 might be his least developed offering. 890 00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:17.039 I still think it's really good. Yeah, yeah, you know, 891 00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:19.480 it's worth noting on the fastball that I think it 892 00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:22.599 rides really well. I mean, you look at his arm angle. 893 00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:24.559 It's a little more over the top than some of 894 00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:26.960 the guys. It's not like a Bryce Miller super flat 895 00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:30.119 rising fastball. But I think it looks to me. I 896 00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:32.639 don't have any IVB numbers on him or anything, but 897 00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:36.039 it looks to me visually like he's getting good ride 898 00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:38.440 with it because he's coming right over the top, and 899 00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:39.880 I think that's helping it play. 900 00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:41.920 Yeah, you know, and when you just talk about like 901 00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:46.519 good arsenal and good execution coming together, I think that's 902 00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:49.920 that's Nestor German here big time. I you know, kind 903 00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:51.760 of let it out in the discord that this was, 904 00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:54.280 you know, maybe my favorite B side arm And I 905 00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:57.199 know Clegg chrimmed in so that he might think he's 906 00:42:57.280 --> 00:43:01.079 the most underrated pigeon prospect in baseball. I think there's 907 00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:03.840 a case for that for sure. Hopefully he graduates from 908 00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:07.360 the piggyback stage of his development here and full on 909 00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:09.559 starter go and he's a guy who I think you 910 00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:11.719 could drop and you could drop into the biggs right now. 911 00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:13.519 And some of his some of the at bats, some 912 00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:16.920 of the sequencing, quality of stuff, quality of the execution, 913 00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:19.679 like that's going to give major league hitters a hard 914 00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:23.519 time right now. It's just doing it all the time consistently. 915 00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:25.840 Obviously is a big hurdle for a loud guys. But 916 00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:28.280 I like the bet and I like the chances that 917 00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:31.679 this is a major league This is a dude. Yeah, yeah, No, 918 00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:33.039 one's rostering. 919 00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:36.679 I co signed this one. I am a rosterer myself 920 00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:40.159 in my thirty team deep league that I love. I 921 00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:43.800 second everything you say, and I knew he was going 922 00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:46.559 to be your pick, so I'm not gonna co sign 923 00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:49.559 it for purposes of the B side or draft. But no, 924 00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:51.800 I'm a big fan as well. I think this is 925 00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:55.760 a great pick. My one concern about him at this 926 00:43:55.880 --> 00:43:59.480 stage is the innings and are they going to let 927 00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:02.760 him up into that workhorse or are they going to 928 00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:05.599 pen him because looking at the way the stuff plays, 929 00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:10.159 the fastball, slider, change up combo as a reliever, like 930 00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:12.360 maybe they just want to fast track him to do 931 00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:14.360 that because they do have a lot of these like 932 00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:18.519 starters that are have really good stuff and have some 933 00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.280 innings under their belt. You know, Povich and McDermott and 934 00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:25.599 Brandon Young, I think all are big league quality starters. 935 00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:28.800 But none of them I think is like that you know, 936 00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:32.559 Ace type guy, and so maybe, but they're all ahead 937 00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:35.239 of where German is and some of the other guys 938 00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:38.000 that we'll talk about. So I wonder if they have 939 00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:40.320 seen just how much this stuff plays up. I mean, 940 00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:43.320 you're talking like nineteen point seven percent swinging strike rate 941 00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:46.760 in high A super impressive. That is up there as 942 00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:49.559 some of the nastiest stuff in the minors. So my 943 00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:53.800 one concern is that they stop him starting next year. 944 00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:57.559 And for whatever, This is where I threw out one 945 00:44:57.559 --> 00:44:59.559 of their brass that I thought he might be my 946 00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:02.400 favorite arm in their whole system, and where they didn't 947 00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:04.920 think that was a crazy notion. So take that for whatever. 948 00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:08.639 That's good to hear. I mean, I want to see him, 949 00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:10.679 give him a chance, like, let's see what he does 950 00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:12.760 at the double A rotation and see if he can 951 00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:16.360 build some innings, because you're you're absolutely right, the stuff 952 00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:19.519 is hillacious and it is really it's fun watching him 953 00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:21.760 pitch too, Like you see him just attack guys and 954 00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:25.360 something doesn't work, they'll try something different and it often 955 00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:28.199 works the second time. So he's it's fun. 956 00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:30.320 It's super great to see a guy who's like stuff 957 00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:33.320 just like ticked up over this year and like doesn't 958 00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:35.920 skip a beat with the you know, the execution and 959 00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:38.920 the strike throwing and stuff that all just stayed where 960 00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:40.639 it was too, Like, I don't know, I don't know 961 00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:41.960 if you see that every day. 962 00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:45.280 Yeah again, I already mentioned him, but Brandon Young is 963 00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:47.519 another of my favorite guys in the system. I really 964 00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:50.480 like Chase McDermott too. I know the walks are higher 965 00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:53.039 than I usually like to see, but I watched a 966 00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:54.960 good bit of him this year before he got hurt 967 00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:57.599 and thought that it was getting better, like the command 968 00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:00.440 was tightening up and the stuff was staying and he 969 00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:03.360 was still getting the punch outs. Like McDermott looks really 970 00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:05.960 exciting if they can hone that that strike throwing just 971 00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:08.199 a little bit. And I think Brandon Young looks like 972 00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:10.639 a you know, number four, number three kind of starter. 973 00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:13.000 And what did you say, he's two percent owned? Yeah, 974 00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:15.679 Like that's ridiculous to me, Like he's I would take 975 00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:19.320 him over most of the pictures in the FYPD draft 976 00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:21.960 that's upcoming, Like, I think he's going to be real good. 977 00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:24.039 Before you name your guy, I just want to throw 978 00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:26.199 what was my short list here, because I think it 979 00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:28.400 could have been quite long. I kind of think I 980 00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:29.960 might know who you're going to pick. But tell me 981 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:33.039 if your guy's on this list here, Brax and Bragg, 982 00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:35.719 Cam Weston, I picked him last year, So not him, 983 00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:39.280 but Blake Money, Levi Wells, Ty Weatherley, Trey Gibson. 984 00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:40.400 Yeah, none of those guys. 985 00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:43.199 Okay, all right, my other finalist in this system, and 986 00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:45.360 I think there's a lot of other guys that could 987 00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:46.400 be in that list too. 988 00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:48.119 Yeah. Yeah, A couple of those guys I think are 989 00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:51.599 pretty interesting. I mean I looked at Blake Money, huge dude. 990 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.800 Stuff looks pretty good, big fun Beard just he's still 991 00:46:56.119 --> 00:46:58.920 a little raw for me, and I think still has 992 00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:00.519 some work to do there. I don't know if you 993 00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:05.519 came to the same conclusion. The other guy that I 994 00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:08.320 was really excited about I think I had mentioned before, 995 00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:09.360 Peter Van Luhn. 996 00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:13.079 Yeah, that's why that was my favorite. That my ads 997 00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:14.239 on bet that you'd pick. 998 00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:19.280 Van Lune is awesome. I think super underrated and I 999 00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:22.079 think he's another one of these guys that was a 1000 00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:25.559 late pick out of UC Irvine, and as he's gone 1001 00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:28.199 up the levels, seems like he just keeps getting better, 1002 00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:31.119 you know, punching out thirty one percent of batters at 1003 00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:34.320 double A in a starter's workload. You know, he's got 1004 00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:37.440 eleven starts there. The walks ticked up a little bit too, 1005 00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:39.920 which I don't I don't love, but twenty point six, 1006 00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:43.480 twenty eight point six came I as BB two sixteen 1007 00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:47.360 average against really really solid stuff across the board, solid 1008 00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:51.280 power pitcher. I think that he could follow that kind 1009 00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:53.880 of McDermott path and like the stuff keep ticking up 1010 00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:55.920 and if he can keep the walks in check, which 1011 00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:59.199 historically he's been like more a good strike thrower than 1012 00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:01.880 a great one. But Van Luhn is again like German 1013 00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:05.239 for me, really really exciting, so excited to see what 1014 00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:08.000 they do next year. And I think would be a 1015 00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:10.079 great B side pick in a lot of years. But 1016 00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:13.920 it just it happens occasionally, like maybe once or twice 1017 00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:19.199 where Nate you get one right, and I think cam 1018 00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:22.400 Wesson was your one last year that you got right 1019 00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:25.079 and is the guy that I want to highlight again. 1020 00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:28.440 So I'm gonna piggyback on that one. Co sign on 1021 00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:32.400 German like great pick. Totally agree he's I think he's 1022 00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:34.000 going to be good and I hope they use him well. 1023 00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:36.719 Van Luhn is my like like kind of B sides 1024 00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:39.079 B side, you know that I think he could he 1025 00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:41.559 could pop off a bit next year. He keeps going 1026 00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:44.079 on the developmental trajectory that I think he is. I'm 1027 00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:46.519 gonna double tap your guy from last year and think 1028 00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:50.119 that this was just a great pick Weston. For those 1029 00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:53.079 that don't remember, he was a mid round pick. I 1030 00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:56.079 think like eighth round out of Michigan. If I recall 1031 00:48:56.480 --> 00:49:00.320 you had liked his like aggressive pound the zone kind 1032 00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:03.880 of approach and pitchability and execution that he thought that 1033 00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:06.960 that was like playing above where people were valuing him 1034 00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:10.559 last year and hi a last year where he spent 1035 00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:13.800 a good chunk of the year. He was quite successful 1036 00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:17.119 and fifteen point one percent swinging strike rate induced a 1037 00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:19.960 bunch of ground balls pitched to a two six eight er. 1038 00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:22.400 I think it was a good call then and then 1039 00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:25.760 he just did that but better and at higher levels 1040 00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:28.719 this year. Weston's another one of these guys that he's 1041 00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:32.960 a low slot slinging righty like. His motion is really fun. 1042 00:49:33.079 --> 00:49:36.079 He almost gun slings it from the hip like he 1043 00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:39.159 separates his hands and then his right hand where the 1044 00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:41.039 ball is is just hanging out by his hip and 1045 00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:43.719 then just whips out and around and he gets great 1046 00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:47.440 sinc on his fastball and change up the slider is 1047 00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:50.519 really nasty. He keeps everything on the ground. He got 1048 00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:53.840 fifty seven percent ground balls in Higa this year, and 1049 00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:56.639 then in a larger sample it fell to forty five 1050 00:49:56.719 --> 00:49:59.719 percent at double A, and he did start to give 1051 00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:03.960 up few homers, but still he was limiting walks. The 1052 00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:07.920 babip was pretty low. He threw a good number of innings, 1053 00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:10.599 like he almost got one hundred and ten innings on 1054 00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:13.119 the air, which I also love, like starting to build 1055 00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:16.079 that starter's workload. And he was another one that as 1056 00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:19.280 he went through starts, he kept up the stuff like 1057 00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:22.519 there was no drop off, unlike some other guys who 1058 00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:25.320 as they go through the outing they'll change things up. 1059 00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:27.239 What I like about Weston is that he does the 1060 00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:29.599 same thing over and over and over again, and guys 1061 00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:32.559 can't adjust. To me, that tells me something about the 1062 00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:35.519 stuff that Like, he just keeps sinking that fastball underneath 1063 00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:37.800 righty's hands and they keep grounding it out. He keeps 1064 00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:40.559 throwing the slider down and into lefties and they whiff. 1065 00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:43.440 It's like they know what's coming and they still can't 1066 00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:45.920 do anything about it. And I also love his kind 1067 00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:47.840 of like demeanor and the way that he like is 1068 00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:49.960 a bulldog out there on that He's like, I know 1069 00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:51.719 that you're not going to hit this stuff hard. I 1070 00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:53.840 know you're not going to get me. And he really 1071 00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:56.440 has to miss a spot I feel like to get got. 1072 00:50:56.719 --> 00:50:59.119 I saw him give up a home run early in 1073 00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:02.280 one outing where he hung a slider into a lefty. 1074 00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:05.440 Same guy later in the game struck him out on 1075 00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:08.119 a slider that was actually executed where he wanted it. 1076 00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:10.039 You could see him just get fired up about it, 1077 00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:13.119 like he buried it down and in one two left 1078 00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:15.480 he swung over it and you know, same pitch that 1079 00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:17.519 he had hit out when he left it up, but 1080 00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:19.840 he like, I'm going right back to that same pitch. 1081 00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:23.199 I just executed it badly, execute it well, strikeout. So 1082 00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:26.880 Kim Weston, I think he's really really good and for 1083 00:51:26.920 --> 00:51:30.039 what it's worth. Steamer projects him as a three eight 1084 00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:34.239 six er guy in the majors next year. Now they're 1085 00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:38.360 projecting him as that as a reliever, so take that 1086 00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:41.840 with some some Usually when they do kind of the 1087 00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:44.280 lower projections, or if they don't project you, quote unquote 1088 00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:46.920 as a starter, the eer comes down because you know, 1089 00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:49.639 shorter outings and all that stuff plays up. But that 1090 00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:52.199 is still really really good. There are not a lot 1091 00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:55.840 of even reliever types. They get sub four projections when 1092 00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:59.239 you haven't sniffed triple A yet, let alone the major leagues. 1093 00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:03.119 So that tells me that the computers are also seeing 1094 00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:06.760 that what he has been doing not only looks sustainable, 1095 00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:10.159 but it looks like it's gonna play at the higher levels. 1096 00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:12.760 So I don't always use that as a as a barometer, 1097 00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:15.880 but I do like it as a as a sanity 1098 00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:18.119 check one way or another. And that's like a big outlier. 1099 00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:21.119 That's a really really impressive projection. So I think they're 1100 00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:23.000 gonna keep letting him start, though I know they did 1101 00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:25.239 some of the piggybacking with west End this year as well, 1102 00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:27.519 but it was still usually you know, four or five 1103 00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:30.880 inning outings when he was piggybacking in so I think 1104 00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:32.119 they're going to keep letting him start. 1105 00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:34.960 This is pretty much par for the course in their system, 1106 00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:37.239 I mean, what everybody's doing. 1107 00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:39.360 Also because they just have a lot of arms to 1108 00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:41.920 go around. I mean, this system is deep and good. 1109 00:52:42.039 --> 00:52:43.239 There are so many good arms. 1110 00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:45.199 I know there's like maybe not a lot of name 1111 00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:47.760 value in the dynasty world here, but this is legit, 1112 00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:47.960 and I. 1113 00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:50.599 Think there should be. We've talked about like six names 1114 00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:52.840 in here that I would take over. I don't know 1115 00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:57.000 anybody in the Boston system, including the pretty boys, like 1116 00:52:57.079 --> 00:53:00.559 you can have loose parless, you can have your I Manegro, 1117 00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:03.199 you can have all those pretty boy arms, like I 1118 00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:05.840 don't care. I want all these guys in Baltimore system. 1119 00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:08.159 Do you think it's because they're like piggybacking that it 1120 00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:10.920 just like kind of goes under the radar for a 1121 00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:13.719 lot of dynasty folks. It might, it might, It doesn't 1122 00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:16.360 really like great well to like different. 1123 00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:20.320 They're also not spending like side draft capitals, you know, 1124 00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:22.559 but they're also not spending like high draft capital. Like 1125 00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:24.199 most of the guys that we've talked about are all 1126 00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:27.800 mid or late rounders, and I think that people, especially 1127 00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:32.400 post fypds, they hang on to that first rounder because 1128 00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:35.079 they were a first rounder for so long. And I 1129 00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:38.599 think we know pretty fast in Pro Bowl. We get 1130 00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:42.400 a lot more useful information almost right away when guy's debut, 1131 00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:44.920 and like sometimes that's in the next. 1132 00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:50.239 Is right, Bitsko is still rastered more than all these guys. Yeah, 1133 00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:53.480 you know Criminal for example, a year ago and this 1134 00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:56.840 was even I know there are twenty twenty three class 1135 00:53:56.840 --> 00:53:59.760 for pitching seemed like a pretty dang good class and 1136 00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:03.079 we were just starting to see them a year ago now, 1137 00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:05.480 but even even before that kind of felt like it 1138 00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:08.400 was very underrated and there was a slew of talent 1139 00:54:08.519 --> 00:54:11.280 here and guys that thought could pop up, we thought 1140 00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:14.000 could pop up. So yeah, the Orioles pitching, and I 1141 00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:16.039 know in the discord and stuff, people are starting to 1142 00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:18.079 talk about it a little bit more and maybe it 1143 00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:22.199 won't be quite as unloved a year from now. But 1144 00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:25.119 you want some b side arms, check out the Orioles. Man, 1145 00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:28.360 There's there's some of the best least rostered starting pitching 1146 00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:29.360 prospects out there. 1147 00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:32.039 I think. Yeah, all right, the bat side, Matt Batside, 1148 00:54:32.039 --> 00:54:34.079 I thought there was some like you said before, I 1149 00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:36.440 think there were several different ways you could go at 1150 00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:39.920 this roster percentage, but I landed on a first year 1151 00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:42.880 player guy that I liked the brief looks of quite 1152 00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:43.920 a bit and interesting. 1153 00:54:44.039 --> 00:54:45.760 What were some of the other guys that you were 1154 00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:46.840 that you were looking at, like. 1155 00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:52.679 Edwin Amparo, Aaron Estrada, Tavy and Josenberger, Edri compos and 1156 00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:56.960 Miguel Rodriguez were my final my finalist here, and I 1157 00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:00.519 was I just listened to the BA guys review the 1158 00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:05.000 Orioles draft just today yesterday, and they were talking about 1159 00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:06.800 my guy here, so that makes me feel good. But 1160 00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:08.639 I'm going with their third round pick from this year 1161 00:55:08.679 --> 00:55:12.400 out of USC, Austin excuse me, Austin Overn. I don't 1162 00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:15.119 know if you're familiar. Kind of fits. I think a 1163 00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:16.960 search that they've been on. I think they're kind of 1164 00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:19.440 looking for a speedy center fielder type, you know, and 1165 00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:22.039 I think he very much fits that profile. I don't 1166 00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:24.280 know where he might sit right now in the pecking 1167 00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:27.079 order in their system for that profile. But a former 1168 00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:29.920 wide receiver they were saying today. I didn't know that 1169 00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:32.599 until I listened to the BA guys at USC at 1170 00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:35.880 twenty one years old lefty listed at six foot that 1171 00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:38.519 might be a little generous. I don't know. Pro debut 1172 00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:41.719 was only twenty one games, fifteen in a BL and 1173 00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:44.760 six in High A, but I thought he was pretty impressive. 1174 00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:48.000 Walked sixteen point one percent of the time, struck out 1175 00:55:48.039 --> 00:55:51.119 twenty seven percent of the time two eighty three, ninety eight, 1176 00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:53.760 four sixty seven, hit a home run. I don't think 1177 00:55:53.800 --> 00:55:56.039 he's like a big power guy, but I think he 1178 00:55:56.159 --> 00:55:58.079 is a guy might hit the right shapes to hit 1179 00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:01.320 some home runs and has enough in there. Stole sixteen 1180 00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:04.559 bags in twenty one games. Granted it's in the lowers, 1181 00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:07.000 but I think speed is going to be a part 1182 00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:10.239 of his game. Good enough for one forty six WRC 1183 00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:13.199 plus in Hi A, pulled the ball forty one percent 1184 00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:16.199 of the time sixteen point seven percent ground ball rate 1185 00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:19.000 in his small sample size in Hi A. But uh yeah, 1186 00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:21.800 I don't know, man, Austin Overn, Maybe you could be 1187 00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:24.639 a center fielder for them relatively soon. I don't know. 1188 00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:27.559 I mean, that's a tough tough place to break in, 1189 00:56:27.639 --> 00:56:30.840 but I kind of the third round picks don't tend 1190 00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:33.440 to be very popular in first year player drafts. 1191 00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:37.280 US soon interesting interesting. Well, you know, I think he's 1192 00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:40.320 going to have a hard time leaprogging my B side 1193 00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:43.760 pick of enriy K Bradfield junior from last year, who 1194 00:56:43.960 --> 00:56:47.880 is speedy centerfield plus defense and one of the most 1195 00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:50.679 prolific and effective base deelers in the miners and he 1196 00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:53.519 I think I was a little worried this year with 1197 00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:56.400 Bradfield that the K rate was ticking up, but he 1198 00:56:56.599 --> 00:56:59.440 I think got that under control. It's still a plus. 1199 00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:03.079 It's not elite, but it's plus at fifteen percent, so 1200 00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:05.400 I think that could play, especially that he takes a 1201 00:57:05.440 --> 00:57:08.159 walk too, so gives himself a lot of chances to steal. 1202 00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:10.480 And he actually hit some homers this year four homers 1203 00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:14.840 hit five doubles in eighteen or five triples rather in 1204 00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:17.159 eighteen doubles two so Bradfield. 1205 00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:19.480 Still were any of those inside the park home runs? 1206 00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:21.639 I think there was at least one, but he did 1207 00:57:21.679 --> 00:57:25.199 leave the yard over the fence a couple of times. 1208 00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:29.119 My guy this year, I'm actually quite excited about one 1209 00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:31.639 of these ones that I think it's kind of a 1210 00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:36.199 slow burn watching him, and is one where the numbers 1211 00:57:36.360 --> 00:57:39.920 might be a touch ahead of like the data, like 1212 00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:42.519 the stack cast and some of the EV data, but 1213 00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:47.599 I'm going with Aaron Estrada this year. Yeah, he's one percent, 1214 00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:48.920 I think when I looked. 1215 00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:52.000 Yeah, I use one percent on September twenty seven. 1216 00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:56.440 Okay, and just slashed two eighty six, three fifty six, 1217 00:57:56.480 --> 00:58:02.199 four sixteen, nineteen doubles, five triples, nine homers, thirty nine steals, 1218 00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:05.400 eight point two percent walk rate, sixteen percent strikeout rate. 1219 00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:09.000 Good for a one twenty six WRC plus end of 1220 00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:11.800 the year at high A, but most of the year 1221 00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:12.840 in loway. 1222 00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:13.280 That's right. 1223 00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:16.159 The thing about Estrata is that he's five to eight. 1224 00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:20.360 So you know, short boy short King is prime B 1225 00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:24.000 side hunting territory and he's listed at one forty two 1226 00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:27.159 on fan grafts. Now, I think he's a little bit 1227 00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:30.519 taller and definitely bigger than this. Now that might have 1228 00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:33.079 been his reported height and weight when he was signed 1229 00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:36.280 out of Venezuela a couple of years ago as a 1230 00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:38.760 seventeen year old in the DSL. So I think he's 1231 00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:40.960 a little bit bigger than this. Like he's still on 1232 00:58:41.039 --> 00:58:44.760 the smaller side, but looks athletic, which he good runner, 1233 00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:47.679 not a great base stealer, you know, watching his steals 1234 00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:49.800 like a lot of them are close, or he picks 1235 00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:52.119 some wrong times to go, but he's like I think, 1236 00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:54.320 working on that. You know, he did still thirty nine 1237 00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:56.760 bags this year, but I think there's some power there 1238 00:58:57.039 --> 00:59:00.280 that is a little bit surprising given the small frame. 1239 00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:03.039 So that's something that I think could tick up. We 1240 00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:06.480 might see fifteen or twenty homers next year, which would 1241 00:59:06.519 --> 00:59:08.679 be really interesting. And he's one of those guys that 1242 00:59:08.679 --> 00:59:12.280 it's the whole package put together is what makes him interesting. 1243 00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:14.480 I like his swing. I think he puts it on 1244 00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:16.559 the ground a touch too much, but I think that 1245 00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:20.519 the swing still looks really really nice. He's balanced on 1246 00:59:20.599 --> 00:59:23.079 both sides of the plate. He's a switch hitter, balance 1247 00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:25.719 from both sides. I think he's a better from the 1248 00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:28.239 left kind of guy, but still good from the right. 1249 00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:33.719 The overall approach, the overall package, to me, is one 1250 00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:36.719 that it gets underappreciated, right. It's one of those ones 1251 00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:38.280 that it's going to be kind of the sum of 1252 00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:41.159 the parts profile, but one that I think is really 1253 00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:45.119 really good. And I'm not alone in this Steamer Again, 1254 00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:48.159 I know I just mentioned this, but it's also fun 1255 00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:52.159 to look at steamer projections for young minor leaguers because 1256 00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:55.920 they take just the data that they have access to 1257 00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:59.679 and say, what would this guy hit in the major leagues. 1258 01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.719 Also removes a lot of the bias things like where 1259 01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:05.760 was he taken in the draft, or what's his scouting report? 1260 01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:08.079 Or how tall is he? Like those things don't play 1261 01:00:08.079 --> 01:00:11.239 into their algorithm. I don't think last I checked. And 1262 01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:13.440 so then you get to stack guys up pretty interestingly. 1263 01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:16.480 So I looked at every guy who had yet to 1264 01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:19.639 debut in the majors, which you know, for nineteen year olds, 1265 01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:22.599 there aren't any this year. Quick quiz nate, who's number 1266 01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:25.760 one on this list nineteen years old? Who's the best 1267 01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:28.199 hitter according to Steamer as a nineteen year old, best 1268 01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:30.960 nineteen year old he's in this system? 1269 01:00:31.159 --> 01:00:35.079 Oh uh, Basallo Biseo, sorry say. 1270 01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:38.760 He's number one by an absolute metric. Shit ton the 1271 01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:41.360 Seo is going to be an absolute monster in the 1272 01:00:41.400 --> 01:00:43.400 major leagues. Like that guy, I mean, if you can 1273 01:00:43.440 --> 01:00:45.519 acquire him, I think there's a good chance that he's 1274 01:00:45.559 --> 01:00:49.800 the best hitter period in the minor leagues by by 1275 01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:54.159 potentially a lot. Biseos is very very impressive. Number two 1276 01:00:54.199 --> 01:00:57.280 and three are guys that I have definitely hated on 1277 01:00:57.320 --> 01:00:59.679 in the past. Walker Jenkins and Jus Way to Paula, 1278 01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:03.400 both because they've been very young, have succeeded in the 1279 01:01:03.519 --> 01:01:05.719 challenges that they've faced and have made it up to 1280 01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:08.400 the upper minors. So that helps. And the fourth guy 1281 01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:10.480 is actually another one that I've been a little skeptical of, 1282 01:01:10.719 --> 01:01:13.880 largely because I don't think he's having a ton of success, 1283 01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:16.679 but they keep pushing him up high. In Nelson Rada, 1284 01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:20.760 so he's fourth and Aaron Estrada is fifth. And considering that, 1285 01:01:21.039 --> 01:01:23.639 unlike Rada, it's not like he's got shoved up into 1286 01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:26.880 double A this year. He's been at you know, advanced 1287 01:01:26.960 --> 01:01:29.440 levels for his age as a nineteen year old. Making 1288 01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:31.960 up to HYA is good. That's a tough challenge and 1289 01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:34.280 he's held his own there. But that means that Aerin 1290 01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:38.079 Astrada is ahead of pretty boys like Max Clark, Colt Emerson, 1291 01:01:38.199 --> 01:01:42.639 Ralphie Velaskez, Jefferson, Rojas is a here hope at Chedrie Vargas, Hansel, 1292 01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:46.599 Luis Robert Klas, George Lombard Junior like and these are 1293 01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:48.360 the good nineteen year olds, these are the ones that 1294 01:01:48.440 --> 01:01:51.960 have like done something, and and our plant with Jason Churio, 1295 01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:54.400 he's just ahead of him. This is not the end 1296 01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:57.559 all be all. There's huge wide ara bars around this 1297 01:01:57.639 --> 01:02:00.360 kind of projection. And I don't use this is like 1298 01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:03.679 this is who's better than who when slicing these things up, 1299 01:02:03.800 --> 01:02:08.000 but it is a really strong reminder that age matters 1300 01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:10.239 a lot, and when someone is kind of holding their 1301 01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:13.639 own at a level that is way above their paygrade, 1302 01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:16.679 like like they're playing against way older guys, we really 1303 01:02:16.719 --> 01:02:20.800 should wait that pretty heavily and suggests to me that 1304 01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:25.239 Aeron Estrada is borderline top one hundred overall prospect right now, 1305 01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:28.760 and nobody thinks he's that good. So I think Estrata 1306 01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:32.039 is one that you should try and acquire quietly, Like 1307 01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:34.079 you don't have to make him the centerpiece of a deal, 1308 01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:36.320 but like if you can find something interesting for the 1309 01:02:36.360 --> 01:02:38.559 owner that has Estrata or pick him up for free. 1310 01:02:38.639 --> 01:02:41.239 I mean he's a one percenter, so that I think 1311 01:02:41.239 --> 01:02:44.239 he has got a chance to be a outperform Max 1312 01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:47.800 Clark right like, and Max Clark is quote unquote a 1313 01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:50.400 great player, but could could return you better value than 1314 01:02:50.760 --> 01:02:53.440 Max Clark as they rise up the levels. So hop 1315 01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:56.599 on the erin astrata train. I'm super excited about this 1316 01:02:56.920 --> 01:03:00.480 some of all the parts player visually it checks out 1317 01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:04.400 for me. I think the statistical performance has been quietly 1318 01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:06.880 very impressive, and I'm excited to see what he can 1319 01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:07.320 do next year. 1320 01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:09.719 Right On, I actually was rostering this strata or a 1321 01:03:09.719 --> 01:03:11.760 good chunk of this year in a few leagues, but 1322 01:03:11.880 --> 01:03:13.920 kind of towards the end of the year moved along 1323 01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:16.639 for a more further advanced pitcher. I think probably in 1324 01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:19.199 most cases at the top of my shortlist, I think 1325 01:03:19.239 --> 01:03:21.000 he was going to be my pick until I came 1326 01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:24.480 across Over. And now maybe I was thinking about this 1327 01:03:24.519 --> 01:03:27.119 stuff too much, but I was thinking about the stature, 1328 01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:29.920 and I was thinking about the ground ball percentage, and 1329 01:03:29.960 --> 01:03:32.079 then I was just watching over and I was like, yeah, 1330 01:03:32.119 --> 01:03:34.400 maybe there's like just some more impact here that I 1331 01:03:34.400 --> 01:03:37.840 can feel safe about, which I think was the deciding 1332 01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:40.239 factor for me. But thinking about how you know, the 1333 01:03:40.239 --> 01:03:42.920 way that you put it, like, maybe I was understelling 1334 01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:45.119 him a little bit, and maybe I shouldn't have dropped 1335 01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:47.679 right on Aeron Estrada. I like it, But was it 1336 01:03:47.719 --> 01:03:49.719 a tough call for you in this system? Were there 1337 01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:52.000 other guys that were there was this pretty easy. 1338 01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:54.199 On the hitter side, this was pretty easy. I mean, 1339 01:03:54.199 --> 01:03:56.639 there's some other guys that I think are are interesting 1340 01:03:56.800 --> 01:04:00.360 and a guy that I've long flirted with in the 1341 01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:03.960 Baltimore system actually just got popped in the minor league section, 1342 01:04:04.159 --> 01:04:06.800 John Rhodes. I think we might have talked about him before. 1343 01:04:06.920 --> 01:04:09.480 He had a pretty bad year, but he's someone that 1344 01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:12.480 I've been pretty intrigued by some of the skills in 1345 01:04:12.519 --> 01:04:15.480 the past, and I don't know, the Dodgers aren't stupid 1346 01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:18.000 and they took him, so yeah, I think that's. 1347 01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:22.280 Doosenberger in his fifty steels was kind of interesting to 1348 01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:22.679 me too. 1349 01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:25.360 I watched a favorite of Josenburger too. He had a 1350 01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:28.159 good year. I think he's really interesting. Again, I love 1351 01:04:28.239 --> 01:04:30.880 the plate discipline combo of an above average walk rate 1352 01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:35.239 and a better than average strikeout rate. So Josenberger's he 1353 01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:37.840 is a good one. That's definitely a good shout And 1354 01:04:38.119 --> 01:04:41.199 if it were not for Estrada, Josenberger might have been 1355 01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:41.880 a good pick. 1356 01:04:44.440 --> 01:04:48.639 Matt. The Toronto Blue Jays looking at their arms, Ricky 1357 01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:54.199 Titaman's still most popular fifty six percent two arms. Yeah right, 1358 01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:58.000 that's really unfortunate too. I like Tituman, Jake Bloss who 1359 01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:02.280 they got from Houston, right m h fifteen percent, Brandon 1360 01:05:02.440 --> 01:05:08.239 Barrierra fifteen percent, Adam Maco five percent, Landon Marudis three percent, 1361 01:05:08.360 --> 01:05:11.599 prey Yasavage there what first round pick? Second round pick 1362 01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:14.239 this year? Is that three percent already? And then I 1363 01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:17.119 don't know some two percenters that are meh? And that 1364 01:05:17.239 --> 01:05:19.159 was and that's about it. Your guy from last year, 1365 01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:21.480 Lazaro Estrada, thought he might get picked today in the 1366 01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:24.199 Rule five, but didn't. I was still at zero percent. 1367 01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:26.920 You and I like him a bit, and I ended 1368 01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:30.199 up landing on another first year player, are Matt. 1369 01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:31.880 You're going aheady on the first year player guys? 1370 01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:34.000 Yeah, I guess the three of them tonight. I don't 1371 01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:36.360 know if I don't know how many I've taken overall 1372 01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:38.559 on the arm side, it doesn't feel like as many 1373 01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:41.480 as last year. AnyWho I'm going with Colby Holcombe. I 1374 01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:43.440 don't know if you watched him at all. I don't 1375 01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:46.519 think I did. There wasn't a ton fifteen innings. After 1376 01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:50.519 getting drafted twenty one years old, Righty listed at six six, 1377 01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:53.800 good strong, big frame. They drafted him out of Mississippi 1378 01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:56.000 State this is the second Mississippi State What are they? 1379 01:05:56.039 --> 01:05:58.519 The Bulldogs and I talked about tonight. He was the 1380 01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:01.159 ninth round pick, signed for one hundred and ninety eight K. 1381 01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:06.360 His college career, Matt was pretty unremarkable, I think. But 1382 01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:09.639 he only had like fifty eight relief innings for Mississippi 1383 01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:12.199 State over the last two years, and they weren't very productive. 1384 01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:14.159 Numbers weren't very good, but I know he had a 1385 01:06:14.159 --> 01:06:17.119 really good cape his last year. There is some savant 1386 01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:19.239 stuff right because he was in the Florida State League. 1387 01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:21.880 So looking at that stuff, here's a four seam fastball 1388 01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:25.880 that averaged ninety three point one, but he can get 1389 01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:27.880 it up there higher than that when he wants to. 1390 01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:30.400 He'll reach back at ninety five ninety six. I know 1391 01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:32.320 there was reports that I don't know if this is 1392 01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:34.320 while he was in college or on the cape, but 1393 01:06:34.440 --> 01:06:37.639 he can like touch ninety nine. The four seam sinker 1394 01:06:37.719 --> 01:06:40.320 game I thought was pretty interesting with him, Like he 1395 01:06:40.440 --> 01:06:42.719 mixed those two up, and I thought he like good 1396 01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:45.280 timing when he chose to throw, you know, was good 1397 01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:48.760 at deciding which one to throw. There's a slider, there's 1398 01:06:48.760 --> 01:06:51.519 a curveball, there's a cutter. And there's a change up. 1399 01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:53.719 I don't think he threw a ton of change ups, 1400 01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:56.079 but it's in there. I thought the slider looked pretty decent, 1401 01:06:56.119 --> 01:06:59.079 but you know, maybe now he's a bigger frame. I 1402 01:06:59.079 --> 01:07:01.960 have no idea what like the extension is that he gets. 1403 01:07:02.039 --> 01:07:04.519 I kind of imagine it's probably decent. Maybe there's a 1404 01:07:04.559 --> 01:07:08.039 little bit like Johnny right hander ish to him, something 1405 01:07:08.079 --> 01:07:10.599 like he's less funky than a lot of a lot 1406 01:07:10.599 --> 01:07:13.360 of our arm picks this year. I just liked the 1407 01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:16.280 little looks of him, like, and you know, the debut 1408 01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:19.280 was pretty good production wise, one point a d r 1409 01:07:19.360 --> 01:07:21.320 a one point one to three whip Now he just 1410 01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:24.639 struck out under twenty percent and walked almost twelve percent, 1411 01:07:24.679 --> 01:07:26.239 so you don't love to see that. But he didn't 1412 01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:28.679 strike me as a guy maybe like the secondary game, 1413 01:07:28.679 --> 01:07:32.000 but I thought the fastball commands he's like a potentially 1414 01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:35.079 like a three fastball guy was pretty good. So I 1415 01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:37.360 don't know. Obviously the blue Jay saw something in him 1416 01:07:37.360 --> 01:07:39.920 here wanted to take him second day, and I could 1417 01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:41.639 kind of see it. I don't know, man, I was 1418 01:07:41.719 --> 01:07:43.960 just enjoying my looks. I thought it was good mix 1419 01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:48.360 of stuff and pitchability. Big, strong frame. I don't know. 1420 01:07:48.519 --> 01:07:51.000 This is why I landed on Kobe Holcom nice. 1421 01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:53.519 Yeah, it sounds like a decent dart throw. I mean 1422 01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:56.000 I didn't love the arms in the system. I still 1423 01:07:56.000 --> 01:07:59.679 think lazarro Strada is my favorite picture in their system period. 1424 01:08:00.039 --> 01:08:04.039 Maybe Adam Mako comes back and is good again. I 1425 01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:06.400 liked him when he was with the Mariners, but I'm 1426 01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:09.039 not a teetaman guy. I think he's a reliever if 1427 01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:11.880 he ever can stay healthy enough. And I wasn't a 1428 01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:13.519 big fan of the rest of the arms in the 1429 01:08:13.599 --> 01:08:16.319 system other than Estrata, who I think had a really 1430 01:08:16.399 --> 01:08:18.439 nice double A, and I'm excited to see what he 1431 01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:21.159 can develop into next year. I don't like the guy 1432 01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:24.399 that I'm picking, really like. He's a bottom five maybe 1433 01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:27.319 armed for me in the system, but he's near to 1434 01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:30.279 the bigs. It's Trenton Wallace. He's spent most of the 1435 01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:33.119 year in triple A. The stuff is like not even 1436 01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:36.039 stuff that I'm going to defend. You know, it's eighty nine, 1437 01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:38.600 but it's not like special shapes or anything. He can 1438 01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:41.159 spin it. Okay, so he still struck out twenty six 1439 01:08:41.159 --> 01:08:43.600 point five percent of batters, but he has to nibble 1440 01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:46.199 quite a lot to do that. So I don't think 1441 01:08:46.239 --> 01:08:49.560 the performance was all that impressive. And he's seems just 1442 01:08:49.600 --> 01:08:53.199 like really depth arm material to me, or a long 1443 01:08:53.520 --> 01:08:56.880 swingman role, eat innings kind of thing. But this is 1444 01:08:56.920 --> 01:08:59.920 not a strong recommendation by any stretch to the imagination. 1445 01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:01.399 I don't think he's that good. 1446 01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:03.319 I agree there wasn't a lot of other than a 1447 01:09:03.399 --> 01:09:06.720 Strata who was still zero percent. I wasn't really taken 1448 01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:08.640 by the many of my looks here. There was a 1449 01:09:08.680 --> 01:09:11.920 teenager Luis Torres that there was a few looks of 1450 01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:14.720 in single A. But I still like to holk him better. 1451 01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:18.760 Cool but the bats, yeah, yeah, yeah, some fun ones here. 1452 01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:21.079 That's where it's at. I think r J Shrek might 1453 01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:24.279 be my number one beside that this year came over. 1454 01:09:24.359 --> 01:09:26.239 I was going to get that what's that. I was 1455 01:09:26.279 --> 01:09:28.279 going to guess that, yeah, that's that, and that you're 1456 01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:29.159 not going with Shrek. 1457 01:09:29.359 --> 01:09:33.520 I almost did, And as I'll say, I think that 1458 01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:35.960 this is the smart pick. This is a this is 1459 01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:40.319 a reversal of fortune here, a reversal of roles, because 1460 01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:44.760 I think that Shrek is high probability, good hitting big 1461 01:09:44.840 --> 01:09:47.920 leaguer like that. That is is going to be pretty good. 1462 01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:50.279 But I think my guy is a moonshot chance. 1463 01:09:50.359 --> 01:09:52.800 Okay, all right, look at us. Yeah, switching roles here 1464 01:09:52.880 --> 01:09:54.399 a bit, but yeah, I'm going to go with Shrek, 1465 01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:58.079 twenty three year old outfielder lefty listed at six to one. 1466 01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:00.399 He was the ninth well, he was the Mayriorner ninth 1467 01:10:00.439 --> 01:10:03.640 round pick out of Andy in twenty twenty three. What trade? Oh, 1468 01:10:03.760 --> 01:10:06.079 justin Turner? Right? Yeah, that was just straight up Trek 1469 01:10:06.119 --> 01:10:07.159 for Turner, Right. 1470 01:10:07.119 --> 01:10:07.880 I think that's right? 1471 01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:10.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh, how do you feel about that 1472 01:10:10.880 --> 01:10:11.800 as a Mariners fan? 1473 01:10:12.039 --> 01:10:16.159 Look, Jerry's constantly trying to trade from his mid round 1474 01:10:16.239 --> 01:10:19.079 picks that hit to get a little bit of help 1475 01:10:19.119 --> 01:10:21.439 for the big league squad. Turner did help the big 1476 01:10:21.520 --> 01:10:24.800 league squad. I don't think that this is a trade 1477 01:10:24.800 --> 01:10:28.199 that they're gonna, like, really regret in the long term 1478 01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:30.560 for reasons that we'll we'll talk about. But I do 1479 01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:33.920 think that it's gonna hurt when Trek hits the ground 1480 01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:35.880 running in the bigs as a hitter. 1481 01:10:36.039 --> 01:10:38.720 Okay, And you know, after I landed on Trek mid 1482 01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:40.439 video and stuff like, I got hit up by a 1483 01:10:40.439 --> 01:10:43.000 few people that were just like, hey, I think Trek's 1484 01:10:43.079 --> 01:10:45.199 really a dude, and these are like, you know, more 1485 01:10:45.279 --> 01:10:47.920 like data guys. So take that for whatever it's worth. 1486 01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:50.319 But but he spent most of the year in Everett, right, 1487 01:10:50.439 --> 01:10:53.760 seventy eight games there, yeah, forty four played appearances. Then, yeah, 1488 01:10:53.800 --> 01:10:55.439 he hit like twelve home runs. And this is a 1489 01:10:55.439 --> 01:10:57.239 guy that I think as an amateur, I don't think 1490 01:10:57.359 --> 01:10:59.119 home runs were really like a big part of it. 1491 01:10:59.159 --> 01:11:01.199 So you're like, yeah, you know, this guy's an Everett. 1492 01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:04.199 You know that ridiculously small porch. So maybe some of 1493 01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:06.239 that is is a bit bloom, but you kind of 1494 01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:09.760 continue to hit home runs even when he moved up well, no, 1495 01:11:09.760 --> 01:11:12.279 now with Seattle, but he hit five with what New 1496 01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:15.720 Hampshire right in one hundred and fourteen played appearances. Well, 1497 01:11:15.760 --> 01:11:18.000 this is a guy that total on the year walked 1498 01:11:18.039 --> 01:11:21.000 fifteen point seven percent. Now, and that was thirteen point 1499 01:11:21.079 --> 01:11:24.479 five percent, and combining both his double A stops struck 1500 01:11:24.479 --> 01:11:27.000 out just a little bit more sixteen point five percent. 1501 01:11:27.079 --> 01:11:29.640 It was twenty three percent in double A on the 1502 01:11:29.720 --> 01:11:33.079 year slash two fifty one, three eighty eight, four sixty 1503 01:11:33.119 --> 01:11:35.600 two with at two eleven ISO and that was on 1504 01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:37.840 a two seventy four babbit's good enough for a one 1505 01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:40.399 forty two WRC plus. Like we talked about, I think 1506 01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:43.520 he kind of maximizes his home run potential with his 1507 01:11:43.640 --> 01:11:44.199 bad boss. 1508 01:11:45.079 --> 01:11:46.840 I was going to talk about this, Like you watch 1509 01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:51.399 him play, his superpower is the barrel control and the 1510 01:11:51.479 --> 01:11:54.319 launch angle control. Like he is a poster boy for 1511 01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:58.760 I'm trying to lift this particular pitch and I'm trying 1512 01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:01.359 to hit this pitch on a love I'm like, he 1513 01:12:01.399 --> 01:12:04.680 does a really really good job manipulating the barrel that way. 1514 01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:06.560 And it's kind of a cool story. I think he 1515 01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:10.039 started off as a walk on at Duke before transferring. 1516 01:12:10.119 --> 01:12:13.199 I did notice the splits aren't the greatest, so maybe 1517 01:12:13.199 --> 01:12:16.039 there's some platoon stuff to think about there. It's like 1518 01:12:16.159 --> 01:12:20.199 six hundred in August after the trade, first month in 1519 01:12:20.239 --> 01:12:22.279 the Eastern League, and I don't know as far as 1520 01:12:22.319 --> 01:12:24.319 this sort of goes, maybe like a little bit of 1521 01:12:24.359 --> 01:12:26.520 a tweener, Like I don't know, is he does he 1522 01:12:26.640 --> 01:12:30.359 lack impact for like the corner outfield life, but is 1523 01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:33.840 he like really a center fielder. I don't know. I 1524 01:12:33.880 --> 01:12:34.560 think he only had it. 1525 01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:37.960 That's my that's my like real world take on this 1526 01:12:38.119 --> 01:12:41.319 is that he probably moves to the corner. So maybe 1527 01:12:41.319 --> 01:12:44.960 he's a decent left fielder and he I don't think 1528 01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:46.760 it's going to be like a twenty five homer back. 1529 01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:49.479 He might he actually might get to that in some seasons, 1530 01:12:49.479 --> 01:12:51.439 like if he gets a good long run because he 1531 01:12:51.520 --> 01:12:53.840 hit so many fly balls. It's just one of the 1532 01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:57.239 things that I think makes him a pretty interesting guy. 1533 01:12:57.600 --> 01:13:00.239 But it's it's it'll be tough for him to do, 1534 01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:02.319 so you know, he's really going to have to really 1535 01:13:02.359 --> 01:13:03.720 going to have to hit. And I don't think that's 1536 01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:06.039 like his power baseline. But he's a guy that his 1537 01:13:06.159 --> 01:13:10.399 game power is I think two grades above his raw. 1538 01:13:10.560 --> 01:13:13.600 He just is so good at manipulating the barrel that 1539 01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:16.479 he's going to get to all the power that he's got. 1540 01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:19.840 Yeah, they had not that this like is a measurement 1541 01:13:19.840 --> 01:13:23.000 of how good you are defensively necessarily, but two airs 1542 01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:25.159 on the season, and one of those was in his 1543 01:13:25.319 --> 01:13:28.039 very first game. But I think he was primarily what 1544 01:13:28.079 --> 01:13:30.000 was he primarily playing center field? 1545 01:13:30.279 --> 01:13:31.800 He played left and right the most. 1546 01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:35.039 Okay, I just wrote I wrote down outfield, which in 1547 01:13:35.239 --> 01:13:38.279 my language to myself just means he played all of them. 1548 01:13:39.239 --> 01:13:40.600 Yeah, mostly and left. 1549 01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:44.479 Then yeah, Shrek is a pretty good get for Toronto 1550 01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:48.079 and Toronto even more so today. Just kind of gobbling 1551 01:13:48.159 --> 01:13:50.960 up a lot of these kind of like deside ish 1552 01:13:51.239 --> 01:13:53.720 kind of like just like guys. Then they got a 1553 01:13:53.760 --> 01:13:56.680 lot of them, and I don't know, maybe maybe a 1554 01:13:56.720 --> 01:13:59.279 few of them pop and produce more than they're sort 1555 01:13:59.319 --> 01:14:02.199 of popularity in name recognition right now. But I think 1556 01:14:02.199 --> 01:14:04.720 they've made a lot of interesting trades and gobble up 1557 01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:07.520 a lot of these kind of like mid tier prospects 1558 01:14:07.880 --> 01:14:09.880 that I have the like quite a bit. 1559 01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:12.840 And as we've seen, sometimes these mid tier prospects add 1560 01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:15.600 a little bit and turn into Spencer Horowitz, who was 1561 01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:19.119 just like traded for an absolute crap ton and given 1562 01:14:19.119 --> 01:14:21.479 that nobody was on him a couple of years ago. 1563 01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:23.720 But if you keep hitting at the upper miners, and 1564 01:14:23.880 --> 01:14:26.800 I think that the Jays have a bunch of these guys, 1565 01:14:26.960 --> 01:14:29.319 you know, Will Wagner is another one that like he's 1566 01:14:29.399 --> 01:14:32.239 kind of underappreciated, but I think is gonna be a 1567 01:14:32.279 --> 01:14:35.199 good major league hitter. Alan Roden's another one. I think 1568 01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:38.079 we've talked about who he's to me, got a lot 1569 01:14:38.079 --> 01:14:42.680 of the like hitterish traits that I think are underappreciated, 1570 01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:45.720 even Josh Kasevich. I think he's another one that like 1571 01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:48.600 is kind of sneaky interesting. And you know, they acquired 1572 01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:51.840 our boy McAdoo who kept hitting post trades. So think 1573 01:14:51.880 --> 01:14:55.159 that there's and Panogo too. You know Panongos, as you 1574 01:14:55.239 --> 01:14:58.319 had mentioned, he's been caught and cold last year and 1575 01:14:58.399 --> 01:15:02.000 for you in general, but he still remained somewhat interesting 1576 01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:02.600 as well. 1577 01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:07.560 Yeah, so who'd you end up going? Who's your moon 1578 01:15:07.640 --> 01:15:08.199 shot here? 1579 01:15:08.479 --> 01:15:11.399 Yeah? So even with me saying I liked a lot 1580 01:15:11.439 --> 01:15:13.520 of these guys, and I think most of the guys 1581 01:15:13.520 --> 01:15:16.720 that I just named were over our roster threshold percentage. 1582 01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:18.760 I'm not one hundred percent on that, but I'm pretty 1583 01:15:18.760 --> 01:15:20.279 sure that these are all guys that were like two 1584 01:15:20.399 --> 01:15:23.079 or three percent. I'm just advocating that they're pretty interesting 1585 01:15:23.119 --> 01:15:25.840 and folks should look at them. They've got a lot 1586 01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:29.319 of these like league average or maybe a touch better 1587 01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:31.199 kind of bats, but where they can to play on 1588 01:15:31.239 --> 01:15:34.239 defense and all that kind of stuff. And I was looking. 1589 01:15:34.319 --> 01:15:36.840 I watched quite a bit of the J's and explored 1590 01:15:36.880 --> 01:15:39.279 a bunch of their FSL data and TRIPAA data because 1591 01:15:39.319 --> 01:15:41.760 obviously we've got stat cast for that, and I thought 1592 01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:45.479 they had a really interesting set of guys from the draft, 1593 01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:48.079 one of whom was included in that him and his 1594 01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:51.199 trade too, Nick Mitchell. I had just been watching him 1595 01:15:51.239 --> 01:15:53.840 as I was brushing up on the Jay's system, and 1596 01:15:53.880 --> 01:15:56.079 then when I saw that Mitchell was included in that 1597 01:15:56.199 --> 01:15:59.159 deal for Andres him and Is, I was like, oh, yeah, 1598 01:15:59.239 --> 01:16:03.079 I thought he was pretty interesting as well, good swing decisions. 1599 01:16:03.079 --> 01:16:05.800 I thought his contact looked good at four homers and 1600 01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:09.800 his hundred plate appearances stole three bags, like interesting power 1601 01:16:09.800 --> 01:16:12.800 speed and was decent at Indiana. I was like, well, 1602 01:16:12.840 --> 01:16:15.600 that's kind of an interesting guy and a very Cleveland 1603 01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:17.640 kind of target. And then the other guy that I 1604 01:16:17.640 --> 01:16:20.640 thought was pretty interesting, another outfielder that they drafted, Eddie 1605 01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:22.760 Mikletty Junior. Do you watch any of him? 1606 01:16:22.880 --> 01:16:25.199 I think so, Yeah, I got him on my list here. Yeah. 1607 01:16:25.239 --> 01:16:28.319 He was a Virginia Tech guy again mid round, like 1608 01:16:28.439 --> 01:16:31.279 eighth rounder out of out of Virginia Tech. He had 1609 01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:34.319 really good walks to strikeouts, you know, it was almost 1610 01:16:34.359 --> 01:16:37.079 one to one, popped a couple of homers. I liked 1611 01:16:37.079 --> 01:16:40.159 a lot about his look as well, really nice left 1612 01:16:40.159 --> 01:16:42.840 handed swing. So he's another one that I'm interested to 1613 01:16:42.880 --> 01:16:46.960 see how it goes. But I got sucked in to 1614 01:16:47.520 --> 01:16:51.880 another of these like super weird guys. Aaron Parker. 1615 01:16:52.359 --> 01:16:55.079 Yeah, he would have been he was, He would have 1616 01:16:55.159 --> 01:16:57.760 been mine. If it wasn't, he would have nice. Nice. 1617 01:16:57.840 --> 01:17:01.439 So they settled on those two. So Aaron Parker out 1618 01:17:01.439 --> 01:17:05.000 of UCSB. The other catcher that I took a random 1619 01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:08.039 ass flyer on, Brendan Durfy for San Diego. 1620 01:17:08.279 --> 01:17:08.560 Yeah. 1621 01:17:08.600 --> 01:17:11.760 So Brendan Durfy, who I like pulled out of a hat. 1622 01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:14.319 Barely watched any of him, but it was like, ay, 1623 01:17:14.359 --> 01:17:17.760 it's interesting in a difficult to find somebody's system. Well, 1624 01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:21.399 big catcher out of UCSB, I'm going with Aaron Parker 1625 01:17:21.680 --> 01:17:25.520 out of UCSB, who's a catcher who's just drafted. So 1626 01:17:25.560 --> 01:17:28.479 the two of them were both at UCSB last year, 1627 01:17:28.760 --> 01:17:31.560 splitting time. I looked like they shared some time and 1628 01:17:31.640 --> 01:17:35.720 DHD and all of that. Aaron Parker had a good debut. 1629 01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:41.199 Surface numbers were two thirty five three eighty five thirteen, 1630 01:17:41.560 --> 01:17:44.760 good for a one fifty four WRC plus in a 1631 01:17:44.840 --> 01:17:47.079 ball and now like college bat coming out of the 1632 01:17:47.159 --> 01:17:49.520 draft in a ball like you expect them to do 1633 01:17:49.640 --> 01:17:53.279 pretty decently well, and you know the warts struck out 1634 01:17:53.319 --> 01:17:56.439 twenty seven percent of the time. That's a lot, especially 1635 01:17:56.479 --> 01:17:59.760 for a college bat. But because it's the FSL, we've 1636 01:17:59.800 --> 01:18:03.960 got exit Vilo data and we've also got swing decision data, 1637 01:18:04.119 --> 01:18:07.560 and Aaron Parker is off the freakin charts on. 1638 01:18:07.600 --> 01:18:09.560 Both of them. Well, when I were just looking at that, 1639 01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:11.319 just pulled that up the other day. 1640 01:18:11.359 --> 01:18:16.680 Absolutely nutty exit Villo. His ninetieth percentile was like one 1641 01:18:16.720 --> 01:18:21.239 oh eight for something, which is like crazy high for anybody. 1642 01:18:21.279 --> 01:18:23.880 I mean, that's like elite big league power, Like that's 1643 01:18:24.079 --> 01:18:28.239 that's I think in the ninetieth or ninety fifth percentile 1644 01:18:28.479 --> 01:18:31.920 for major leaguers Like that's Roman Anthony is at that, 1645 01:18:32.119 --> 01:18:34.920 and he also walks seventeen percent of the time. And 1646 01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:37.760 so I started comparing him, and do you know who 1647 01:18:37.800 --> 01:18:41.239 is like number one comparison is Emmanuel or Rodriguez because 1648 01:18:41.439 --> 01:18:44.560 they never swing, they walk all the time, they strike out, 1649 01:18:44.680 --> 01:18:48.720 they have poor contact and elite power. So Aaron Parker 1650 01:18:48.960 --> 01:18:52.680 is Emmanuel Rodriguez, but just without the steals and plays catcher. 1651 01:18:52.760 --> 01:18:54.840 I watched him a bit of catcher. It looked fine 1652 01:18:54.880 --> 01:18:57.520 to me, nothing great, nothing awful. 1653 01:18:57.920 --> 01:19:01.000 Yeah, I was wondering about that. I was wondering about 1654 01:19:01.039 --> 01:19:03.399 about his catching ability, like which. 1655 01:19:03.279 --> 01:19:05.920 Yeah, starts and it looks it looks fine to me. 1656 01:19:06.119 --> 01:19:08.840 I mean, is there is there anything like less sticky 1657 01:19:09.039 --> 01:19:15.479 than defensive catcher grades for prospects and opinions, so over 1658 01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:18.439 and over, so many examples of it going both ways. 1659 01:19:18.840 --> 01:19:21.880 Yeah, and you know he DHD. He DHD a lot 1660 01:19:21.880 --> 01:19:24.760 in a ball likes basically fifty to fifty. Some of 1661 01:19:24.800 --> 01:19:26.600 that might have been coming off a college she's in. 1662 01:19:26.720 --> 01:19:27.920 Some of that might have just been like. 1663 01:19:28.600 --> 01:19:33.720 You're talking, like you're talking this like short right handed yep, nasher. 1664 01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:39.600 Yep, he's and looks like it. But he hits the 1665 01:19:39.640 --> 01:19:42.119 ball in the air a ton, you know, thirty four 1666 01:19:42.199 --> 01:19:45.359 percent in the air, twenty two percent line drives. He 1667 01:19:45.760 --> 01:19:48.760 pulls the ball too. But even when he goes opo, 1668 01:19:49.039 --> 01:19:51.479 he might leave the yard at any given moment. He 1669 01:19:51.520 --> 01:19:54.600 had a really cool opo homer. He just like muscled 1670 01:19:54.640 --> 01:19:57.560 out the outfielder kind of drifted back thinking he might 1671 01:19:57.560 --> 01:19:59.520 have a play, and then it was way over the wall. 1672 01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:03.960 It's like crazy. He has huge contact concerns, like we're 1673 01:20:03.960 --> 01:20:06.920 talking bottom of the scale contact in both end zone 1674 01:20:07.119 --> 01:20:11.079 and overall. The guy never fucking swings so I kind 1675 01:20:11.079 --> 01:20:12.800 of think it's just not going to matter that much. 1676 01:20:13.159 --> 01:20:15.640 And when he swings, he is looking to do damage. 1677 01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:18.079 And again this thing with like short guys and oh 1678 01:20:18.119 --> 01:20:21.800 we shouldn't like him or whatever. The dude fucking mashes. 1679 01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:24.600 He hits the ball so hard already, that's the thing 1680 01:20:24.640 --> 01:20:26.960 you care about, that's the thing you're worried about for 1681 01:20:27.039 --> 01:20:30.119 a short guy. Like if he showed that that is 1682 01:20:30.159 --> 01:20:33.119 in his toolkit. I just don't think his height really 1683 01:20:33.159 --> 01:20:36.720 matters all that much to me. So he has one 1684 01:20:36.760 --> 01:20:39.199 big flaw, but a bunch of things that I really 1685 01:20:39.239 --> 01:20:42.600 really like. So I'm betting on Aaron Parker and this 1686 01:20:43.199 --> 01:20:46.239 new wave of how you hit is swing lass. I 1687 01:20:46.239 --> 01:20:48.760 think he's on that train and when you swing and 1688 01:20:48.840 --> 01:20:51.479 hit it, you hit it really far. So Aaron Parker's 1689 01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:54.880 my moonshot guy. That he might be just like an 1690 01:20:54.920 --> 01:20:57.960 absolute masher ketcher kind of guy, or he might not 1691 01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:01.239 make enough contact and he might flame out Shrek to me, 1692 01:21:01.520 --> 01:21:05.119 is the high high probability, great pick. Like Co signed 1693 01:21:05.159 --> 01:21:07.119 that as well. It's a good, good B side rep. 1694 01:21:07.159 --> 01:21:09.800 But I'm shooting the moon here and going Aaron Parker. 1695 01:21:09.960 --> 01:21:12.479 Yeah, I'm glad you picked Parker. That's cool. Yeah, Vogel 1696 01:21:12.520 --> 01:21:14.279 hit me up. He's like, hey, the with the new 1697 01:21:14.319 --> 01:21:17.600 Bowman Draft Baseball card release thing, He's like, who are 1698 01:21:17.600 --> 01:21:20.199 some really cheap guys that you kind of like? And like, dude, 1699 01:21:20.239 --> 01:21:22.840 Aaron Parker is like the cheapest hitter to take in 1700 01:21:22.920 --> 01:21:25.239 these breaks and stuff. And I'm like, dude, Parker for 1701 01:21:25.399 --> 01:21:27.479 twenty nine dollars or whatever it was, I'm like, dude, 1702 01:21:27.479 --> 01:21:29.800 take him, man. But yeah, that's funny. I'm glad you 1703 01:21:29.840 --> 01:21:30.359 went with Parker. 1704 01:21:30.359 --> 01:21:33.199 I don't know what any of that means, but Aaron, it. 1705 01:21:33.159 --> 01:21:36.680 Means no card collectors think that Aaron Parker is any good. 1706 01:21:36.880 --> 01:21:39.359 Yes, yeah, I think a lot of real life people 1707 01:21:39.359 --> 01:21:41.399 think that too, and a lot of fantasy players think that. 1708 01:21:41.479 --> 01:21:45.520 But I don't know, man, those are rare, rare skills. 1709 01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:50.479 Yeah, that's true, all right, Last, but not least, the 1710 01:21:51.199 --> 01:21:54.600 evil Empire, right, that's not an empire, but the New 1711 01:21:54.680 --> 01:21:57.920 York Yankees looking at their arm farm. Yeah, Chase Hampton 1712 01:21:58.239 --> 01:22:01.560 twenty eight percent, Will Warren was twenty seven percent, Lani 1713 01:22:01.840 --> 01:22:06.399 nineteen percent, Brack Salvage five percent, several two percenters, and 1714 01:22:06.439 --> 01:22:08.840 then like, yeah, then us, then where we dig around 1715 01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:11.359 one thing that's kind of interesting. Now I know their draft, 1716 01:22:11.439 --> 01:22:14.319 they seem to like really kind of reload. They took 1717 01:22:14.600 --> 01:22:16.680 a ton of pitchers in the first two days. I 1718 01:22:16.760 --> 01:22:19.199 think maybe all pictures the first two days maybe a 1719 01:22:19.239 --> 01:22:21.680 little bit older in the uppers. But I think it's 1720 01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:25.079 just also like a lot of good, tough competition, right, 1721 01:22:25.119 --> 01:22:28.319 tough to get developmental innings there. But I landed on 1722 01:22:28.359 --> 01:22:31.479 a twenty twenty three undrafted free agent. 1723 01:22:31.600 --> 01:22:32.720 Ooh, who did you go far? 1724 01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:36.680 I'm going with Trent Sellers and he's from He's from 1725 01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:38.560 Oregon State, So I didn't know if you were familiar 1726 01:22:38.680 --> 01:22:41.439 or that I am, And I'm not even sure. I 1727 01:22:41.439 --> 01:22:43.600 don't even know college if he was a starter or 1728 01:22:43.640 --> 01:22:45.720 reliever of what the story was, I didn't even look. 1729 01:22:45.800 --> 01:22:48.119 But there are some folks interested. He was one percent 1730 01:22:48.239 --> 01:22:51.399 rostered in September. He was twenty four, almost twenty five 1731 01:22:51.520 --> 01:22:55.000 years old. His last start, which was in High A. 1732 01:22:55.319 --> 01:22:58.760 There was a Triple A appearance at some point this year, 1733 01:22:58.800 --> 01:23:01.159 but I think that was just a little brief deal 1734 01:23:01.239 --> 01:23:05.000 here in High A. Thirty one games, nine starts, eighty 1735 01:23:05.039 --> 01:23:08.680 two innings pitched. I think there was like some piggybacking 1736 01:23:08.840 --> 01:23:11.079 going on, you know, like we talked about an undrafted 1737 01:23:11.119 --> 01:23:13.960 free agent guy, but I think he maybe has started 1738 01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:17.279 to maybe he graduated from that sort of status you're 1739 01:23:17.279 --> 01:23:20.239 talking at two point zero nine ERA, A point ninety 1740 01:23:20.279 --> 01:23:23.720 six whip, a three four five x fit, thirty point 1741 01:23:23.800 --> 01:23:27.760 three K percentage eleven and a half walk percentage. Ground 1742 01:23:27.800 --> 01:23:31.680 balls at almost forty nine percent, was a swinging strike 1743 01:23:31.800 --> 01:23:35.159 rate of ten point three percent according to Fangrass, through 1744 01:23:35.279 --> 01:23:38.079 strikes at a fifty nine percent clip on the season. 1745 01:23:38.199 --> 01:23:41.600 But Matt, the way that he ended the season was 1746 01:23:42.159 --> 01:23:45.960 what got me, got me intrigued. His last thirty nine innings, 1747 01:23:46.239 --> 01:23:48.359 which was his last ten starts, This is when he 1748 01:23:48.800 --> 01:23:51.840 started starting point nine two ERA A point six y 1749 01:23:51.920 --> 01:23:55.439 nine whip, thirty four percent K percentage and just a 1750 01:23:55.520 --> 01:23:59.039 seven percent walk percentage. Through strikes at a sixty one 1751 01:23:59.079 --> 01:24:01.720 percent clip. Still not quite the strike throwing that you 1752 01:24:01.880 --> 01:24:04.680 kind of want to see. Fifteen pitches an inning, gave 1753 01:24:04.760 --> 01:24:06.680 up one home run over that stretch. 1754 01:24:07.359 --> 01:24:08.960 Pretty good, Yeah. 1755 01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:13.319 Like not too bad. Fastball is probably ninety to ninety four. 1756 01:24:13.439 --> 01:24:15.920 There's a sinker, I think that might be just a 1757 01:24:16.039 --> 01:24:19.520 smidge softer. There's a cutter, so kind of three fastball guy, 1758 01:24:19.720 --> 01:24:23.359 change up and a slider, a nice firm slider at 1759 01:24:23.399 --> 01:24:26.039 like eighty six. I think the change up, I don't know, 1760 01:24:26.159 --> 01:24:28.279 was maybe around eighty four or something like that, but 1761 01:24:28.479 --> 01:24:32.319 that's a good velocity differential. I'll share a video here. 1762 01:24:32.880 --> 01:24:35.000 What did that show? I think probably an inning of 1763 01:24:35.279 --> 01:24:38.479 his second inning of work after a leadoff walk versus 1764 01:24:38.479 --> 01:24:40.960 Greensboro in the playoffs. So at the very end of 1765 01:24:40.960 --> 01:24:45.199 the season, I thought he was just filthy dropping some 1766 01:24:45.239 --> 01:24:47.920 secondaries that we were just kind of giving these guys 1767 01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:51.640 no chance. Maybe a guy who's secondary game might be 1768 01:24:51.680 --> 01:24:54.720 a little bit stronger just as far as execution. But yeah, 1769 01:24:54.720 --> 01:24:57.560 I don't know. Trent Sellers, man, I was just really 1770 01:24:57.600 --> 01:25:01.199 impressed with him down the stretch. Think, I don't know, 1771 01:25:01.239 --> 01:25:04.880 maybe there might be some more opportunity this season in 1772 01:25:04.920 --> 01:25:07.920 the uppers for a New York Yankee spec arm to 1773 01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:12.600 make some noise. And I wouldn't be surprised if Trent 1774 01:25:12.640 --> 01:25:14.600 Sellers is one of those guys or that guy. 1775 01:25:14.720 --> 01:25:17.880 So Sellers is a koug like me. He transferred a 1776 01:25:17.960 --> 01:25:18.560 couple of times. 1777 01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:20.439 He started at Washington State, he. 1778 01:25:20.399 --> 01:25:22.760 Did, That's where I remembered him from, and he wasn't 1779 01:25:22.840 --> 01:25:26.359 very good there. And then bounced around to a junior 1780 01:25:26.399 --> 01:25:28.960 college and then an NAI school up here in the Northwest, 1781 01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:30.960 and then kind of figured it out at Lewis and 1782 01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:33.359 Clark and ended up at Oregon State, where he was 1783 01:25:33.479 --> 01:25:35.199 a starter for them and had a really nice year. 1784 01:25:35.600 --> 01:25:37.239 I don't know if I saw him that year, but 1785 01:25:37.319 --> 01:25:39.840 I remember following him a little bit. He does look 1786 01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:42.960 like a developmental success story to me, like he wasn't 1787 01:25:42.960 --> 01:25:46.399 this good, certainly in college and even at Oregon State 1788 01:25:46.479 --> 01:25:48.800 when he took a step forward, I think that he 1789 01:25:49.239 --> 01:25:51.399 has looked much better. And I do think that this 1790 01:25:51.560 --> 01:25:55.720 is the Yankees developmental organization philosophy, that they take some 1791 01:25:55.760 --> 01:25:58.439 of these guys that maybe have some interesting traits and 1792 01:25:58.479 --> 01:26:00.760 then they kind of throw a lot of information at 1793 01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:03.399 them and see what sticks and see what changes they 1794 01:26:03.399 --> 01:26:05.159 can make. And I think that's what that's what we're 1795 01:26:05.159 --> 01:26:07.760 seeing from Sellers, and interestingly, what we're also going to 1796 01:26:07.760 --> 01:26:08.960 talk about with my guy Nice. 1797 01:26:09.199 --> 01:26:12.199 Just generically speaking, I feel like watching Yankees arms over 1798 01:26:12.239 --> 01:26:15.640 the last several years, like there's just breaking ball game 1799 01:26:15.760 --> 01:26:18.159 that just really takes off with a lot of guys. 1800 01:26:18.399 --> 01:26:20.399 There's I feel like them in like maybe like the 1801 01:26:20.479 --> 01:26:23.560 Strows or maybe the two that I two systems I 1802 01:26:23.600 --> 01:26:26.640 noticed the most that just kind of seemed to get 1803 01:26:26.680 --> 01:26:27.960 some good spin out of guys. 1804 01:26:28.039 --> 01:26:31.920 Yeah, well, Sellers is a fun developmental story and an 1805 01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:35.640 interesting one for sure. I think my guy has a 1806 01:26:35.680 --> 01:26:40.720 lot in common with yours. One long history in the 1807 01:26:40.760 --> 01:26:45.520 minor or. In college, Ben Shields started out at UMass 1808 01:26:45.600 --> 01:26:50.039 Amherst in twenty eighteen, got hurt in twenty nineteen, didn't 1809 01:26:50.079 --> 01:26:54.159 pitch twenty twenty, covid ended the season early, pitched at 1810 01:26:54.279 --> 01:26:57.319 UMass again in twenty twenty one, had a good year, 1811 01:26:57.600 --> 01:27:00.640 but it was also shortened I think maybe by injury again. 1812 01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:05.079 Then transferred to George Mason in twenty twenty two, and 1813 01:27:05.119 --> 01:27:07.279 then played for George Mason again in twenty twenty three, 1814 01:27:07.319 --> 01:27:10.960 So if you're counting that, six seasons in college before 1815 01:27:11.119 --> 01:27:14.000 he finally left and he didn't get drafted, but the 1816 01:27:14.039 --> 01:27:16.359 Yankees signed him as an undrafted free agent in like 1817 01:27:16.560 --> 01:27:19.640 late July. I think of twenty twenty three, he had 1818 01:27:19.880 --> 01:27:23.479 played on the Cape a couple of times, and I 1819 01:27:23.520 --> 01:27:27.920 think done decently well in his twenty twenty two stint there, 1820 01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:30.239 and so maybe he was on some radars from that. 1821 01:27:30.520 --> 01:27:33.479 He was good in college. Question Mark like he was 1822 01:27:33.560 --> 01:27:37.119 mostly a reliever in especially towards the end of his career, 1823 01:27:37.600 --> 01:27:40.159 and went not a particularly good one at that, So 1824 01:27:40.319 --> 01:27:44.680 like totally unremarkable college career. Yankees saw something. I read 1825 01:27:44.960 --> 01:27:47.399 a long interview with him and his one of his 1826 01:27:47.479 --> 01:27:50.399 pitching coaches here in pro ball, and they talked a 1827 01:27:50.399 --> 01:27:53.840 lot about how he really absorbed a ton of information 1828 01:27:54.159 --> 01:27:56.760 from when they drafted him, and they put him into 1829 01:27:56.800 --> 01:27:59.159 like the development one of the developmental teams, and I 1830 01:27:59.199 --> 01:28:01.039 think he just worked out with them a lot and 1831 01:28:01.159 --> 01:28:04.039 was working on stuff, and they shoved him into HIA 1832 01:28:04.399 --> 01:28:07.359 to start the year this year again in that piggybacking role. 1833 01:28:07.479 --> 01:28:09.279 He wasn't a starter, but he was going two or 1834 01:28:09.279 --> 01:28:12.600 three innings at a time. His first six outings, he 1835 01:28:12.680 --> 01:28:16.760 went maybe fifteen innings something like that, two to three 1836 01:28:16.840 --> 01:28:19.560 outings at a time, or two to three innings each outing, 1837 01:28:19.680 --> 01:28:23.319 and struck out twenty eight walked eight point five four 1838 01:28:23.439 --> 01:28:26.840 ERA to start your pro career, Like hard to do 1839 01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:30.079 better than that to start, And he was clearly just 1840 01:28:30.159 --> 01:28:34.279 kind of too much for the South Atlantic League. I mean, 1841 01:28:34.359 --> 01:28:36.880 he was just like ripping through these guys and it 1842 01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:39.880 kept going even when they started putting him in as 1843 01:28:39.920 --> 01:28:43.920 a starter. So after his first six appearances in relief, 1844 01:28:44.079 --> 01:28:46.680 I think they he started the rest of the year 1845 01:28:46.840 --> 01:28:50.119 more or less and just kept on doing the same thing. 1846 01:28:50.479 --> 01:28:54.000 Across all of his outings this year, he struck out 1847 01:28:54.039 --> 01:28:56.920 thirty one point one percent of batters, walked, seven point 1848 01:28:57.000 --> 01:29:00.119 five percent of batters three point four eight ERA and 1849 01:29:00.159 --> 01:29:03.039 that includes a couple of like pretty big blow up 1850 01:29:03.079 --> 01:29:05.439 outings too that I'm going to talk about because one 1851 01:29:05.439 --> 01:29:07.560 of the things that really convinced me, like, I love 1852 01:29:07.640 --> 01:29:10.159 that line, I love the story. I watched a bit 1853 01:29:10.159 --> 01:29:13.640 of his low A starts and in Hudson Valley and 1854 01:29:13.680 --> 01:29:15.319 I was like, oh, this is pretty interesting. And I 1855 01:29:15.319 --> 01:29:17.039 watched a couple at Summerset and I was like, this 1856 01:29:17.119 --> 01:29:20.359 looks really really quite good. But we also have a 1857 01:29:20.359 --> 01:29:23.319 triple A start. I love the stackcast data. I got 1858 01:29:23.399 --> 01:29:27.000 so into this guy because he in the triple A data. 1859 01:29:27.000 --> 01:29:29.640 We only have data on a couple of his pitches. 1860 01:29:29.840 --> 01:29:32.039 I think it was just four, and it was terrible. 1861 01:29:32.119 --> 01:29:34.399 In the outing. It was like, uh, let me find it, 1862 01:29:34.399 --> 01:29:37.479 because it was like it was like a miserably bad start. 1863 01:29:37.720 --> 01:29:41.399 So they called him up for one start against the 1864 01:29:42.079 --> 01:29:46.279 Syracuse with the Mets. Triple A affiliate, and they started him. 1865 01:29:46.439 --> 01:29:50.439 He went one in two thirds innings seventeen batter's face, 1866 01:29:50.720 --> 01:29:54.640 gave up eight hits, nine runs, seven earned a homer, 1867 01:29:54.840 --> 01:29:57.560 and two walks and two hit by pitches. He got 1868 01:29:57.560 --> 01:29:59.880 a strike out in there, though, But that's awful, right, 1869 01:30:00.479 --> 01:30:03.600 terrible outing, And even with that outing, he's he's still 1870 01:30:03.760 --> 01:30:06.039 his full season line was really really good. If you 1871 01:30:06.039 --> 01:30:08.800 take that outing out, his full season line was electric 1872 01:30:08.880 --> 01:30:11.239 because that was like the only time he was bad. 1873 01:30:11.319 --> 01:30:14.920 Get a couple of other like four run give up starts, 1874 01:30:15.119 --> 01:30:17.560 uh starts where he gave up four runs one or 1875 01:30:17.560 --> 01:30:19.920 two where he gave up three, But you look across 1876 01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:22.479 his game log, especially to end the year, it's like 1877 01:30:22.680 --> 01:30:25.680 zero runs, two runs, one runs zero zero zero one 1878 01:30:25.840 --> 01:30:29.039 one three one three two two two two two one, 1879 01:30:29.079 --> 01:30:31.399 Like he's just not giving up runs in these starts. 1880 01:30:31.479 --> 01:30:35.039 And his arsenal is so cool because he's got a sinker, 1881 01:30:35.079 --> 01:30:37.439 which he uses a lot, a four seam fastball, which 1882 01:30:37.479 --> 01:30:40.720 is a different shaped pitch, like clearly a different look. 1883 01:30:40.800 --> 01:30:43.600 He has a gyro slider and a sweeper and a 1884 01:30:43.640 --> 01:30:48.079 curveball and a splitter and he uses all of those 1885 01:30:48.119 --> 01:30:50.319 pitches like you watch him like use you see, you know, 1886 01:30:50.359 --> 01:30:53.520 when the catcher's calling pitches, like he's doing two finger 1887 01:30:53.680 --> 01:30:56.880 signs to try and tell him which pitch to call, 1888 01:30:56.920 --> 01:30:58.840 you know, so like it's not just one two three 1889 01:30:59.000 --> 01:31:01.239 or one two three four. They're doing like the l 1890 01:31:01.520 --> 01:31:04.199 for the four seam I think, and they were doing 1891 01:31:04.199 --> 01:31:07.880 the spinny fastball for the two seam. They were doing 1892 01:31:07.920 --> 01:31:10.319 like a hookham horns kind of thing for one of 1893 01:31:10.319 --> 01:31:12.039 his other pitches. I don't even know what that one was, 1894 01:31:12.119 --> 01:31:14.560 but like he's clearly just got like a huge arsenal 1895 01:31:14.640 --> 01:31:16.199 and is trying all these different things. 1896 01:31:16.640 --> 01:31:18.479 Was that the splitter, the horns. 1897 01:31:18.199 --> 01:31:19.920 It might have been, it might have been actually a 1898 01:31:20.039 --> 01:31:24.000 huge repertoire, and commanded them all well enough that like 1899 01:31:24.199 --> 01:31:26.800 he wasn't walking a lot of guys. He had a 1900 01:31:26.800 --> 01:31:29.880 couple of outings where he had four walks. Most of 1901 01:31:29.920 --> 01:31:33.079 them were two zero or one. So he's got a 1902 01:31:33.159 --> 01:31:37.439 deep repertoire commands it pretty well gets with. And we 1903 01:31:37.520 --> 01:31:39.800 had this stackcast data, and so I was so curious. 1904 01:31:39.840 --> 01:31:41.840 I watched the start first and just like watched it 1905 01:31:41.840 --> 01:31:43.760 through you know, the inning and two thirds, and he 1906 01:31:43.880 --> 01:31:47.119 got super unlucky. You watch it a couple of pitches 1907 01:31:47.119 --> 01:31:49.359 that like could have gone either way. Maybe they could 1908 01:31:49.359 --> 01:31:51.159 have challenged it. Actually, I don't know if it was 1909 01:31:51.199 --> 01:31:53.560 a challenge there or not, but anyway that could have 1910 01:31:53.600 --> 01:31:56.199 gone either way on like strike threes early that I 1911 01:31:56.239 --> 01:31:58.680 thought maybe he got got screwed on a couple of 1912 01:31:59.000 --> 01:32:01.840 weird babbit that balls just found holes like it was 1913 01:32:01.880 --> 01:32:04.720 just a supremely unlucky start. He also didn't look faced 1914 01:32:04.760 --> 01:32:06.520 at all. He just kept out going out there doing 1915 01:32:06.520 --> 01:32:08.880 his thing. But we also get the data on the 1916 01:32:08.920 --> 01:32:11.560 pitch shapes, and I was so into this guy at 1917 01:32:11.600 --> 01:32:13.279 this point that I spent like an hour and a 1918 01:32:13.319 --> 01:32:18.159 half recording every single pitch, the spin, the direction, the shape, 1919 01:32:18.199 --> 01:32:21.640 the movement, and then comping this to big leaguers. Okay, 1920 01:32:21.720 --> 01:32:26.119 so this guy, undrafted, free agent, unheralded zero percent when 1921 01:32:26.159 --> 01:32:28.640 I looked, I don't think anybody. I'm not even sure 1922 01:32:28.640 --> 01:32:30.359 if he's owned in any of my leagues, and I 1923 01:32:30.359 --> 01:32:33.319 played in quite a few deep ones. But Shields fastball 1924 01:32:33.600 --> 01:32:37.560 is almost a dead ringer for Max Freeds in terms 1925 01:32:37.600 --> 01:32:40.840 of the run, the velocity, the release point. I think 1926 01:32:40.920 --> 01:32:43.760 his might be huch higher than Freed's, but other than that, 1927 01:32:44.079 --> 01:32:48.199 it looks just like Max Freed's, so that's interesting. The 1928 01:32:48.279 --> 01:32:51.920 other fastballs that are in that same range are Scott 1929 01:32:51.960 --> 01:32:56.520 Ferguson and Patrick Sandoval I think is close. So, like, 1930 01:32:56.720 --> 01:32:58.880 you know, those guys are good in their own way, 1931 01:32:58.960 --> 01:33:02.039 but like, that's a fastball, that's a major league quality fastball, 1932 01:33:02.159 --> 01:33:05.399 right and he's averages like ninety three point six with it, 1933 01:33:05.439 --> 01:33:07.960 which is pretty good, or maybe it's a hair below that, 1934 01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:10.159 but it's like above ninety three for a lefty. That's 1935 01:33:10.199 --> 01:33:12.920 pretty good. Then I looked at his slider. It was 1936 01:33:13.079 --> 01:33:15.720 unclear in the Triple A start, which was early in 1937 01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:18.520 the year in May, whether he was throwing the distinct 1938 01:33:18.600 --> 01:33:22.359 sweeper and gyro. I tend to think that this was 1939 01:33:22.439 --> 01:33:25.039 mostly the gyro slider that he was throwing and not 1940 01:33:25.159 --> 01:33:27.319 the sweepy one that he used later on in the year. 1941 01:33:27.479 --> 01:33:32.039 But also comps almost directly with Max Fried's in terms 1942 01:33:32.079 --> 01:33:36.199 of velocity and movement profile horizontal and vertical. So like 1943 01:33:36.319 --> 01:33:39.039 you've got a Max Freed starter kit, and it's not 1944 01:33:39.359 --> 01:33:41.760 really that much of a coincidence. Maybe that they just 1945 01:33:41.920 --> 01:33:45.399 signed the Yankees just signed Max Freed too, and Shields 1946 01:33:45.479 --> 01:33:48.680 might have his like doppelganger there. But then he also 1947 01:33:48.760 --> 01:33:51.399 adds a whole bunch of other pitches too. So I'm 1948 01:33:51.439 --> 01:33:53.880 not saying that Ben Shields is better than Max Freed. 1949 01:33:53.960 --> 01:33:57.880 Max Freed is so long track record of extremely good 1950 01:33:57.920 --> 01:34:00.640 success in the major leagues, but I'm saying that his 1951 01:34:00.760 --> 01:34:05.800 stuff comps almost exactly too Max freedz so Benshields dominated 1952 01:34:05.840 --> 01:34:09.359 the minor leagues. The stuff looks just like an ACE 1953 01:34:09.600 --> 01:34:12.520 that just got paid an absurd amount of money and 1954 01:34:12.800 --> 01:34:16.760 he's zero percent owned, So the stuff seems there. The 1955 01:34:16.800 --> 01:34:20.079 results are there. It came out of freaking nowhere. But 1956 01:34:20.279 --> 01:34:22.640 like this is kind of a sound the alarm kind 1957 01:34:22.640 --> 01:34:24.520 of thing on this guy. I don't know what else 1958 01:34:24.560 --> 01:34:27.279 you would want to see from a B sider guy, 1959 01:34:27.439 --> 01:34:30.880 Like he's He's probably in my top three B side 1960 01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:33.640 arms that I'm most excited about, has a real shot 1961 01:34:33.720 --> 01:34:36.159 to just be like the most successful out of them. 1962 01:34:36.319 --> 01:34:39.399 The depth of the arsenal, the quality of the stuff 1963 01:34:39.439 --> 01:34:40.920 that like, I don't know, this is the thing, Like 1964 01:34:40.960 --> 01:34:43.600 people get hung up on the guy touching ninety nine, 1965 01:34:43.640 --> 01:34:46.239 but like you don't care when a guy looks just 1966 01:34:46.399 --> 01:34:49.680 like an ace, Like this stuff backball slider looks just 1967 01:34:49.720 --> 01:34:52.520 like Max Freed, and you're like oh, but it's ninety three, 1968 01:34:52.680 --> 01:34:56.800 you know, slider, Like come on, Like, this is why 1969 01:34:56.840 --> 01:34:59.560 I love comps, and I think that people don't use 1970 01:34:59.600 --> 01:35:02.840 them because either they don't know like what, they don't 1971 01:35:02.840 --> 01:35:05.760 have that context, they don't have that the right pull 1972 01:35:05.920 --> 01:35:08.800 the right person to compare them to, or they don't 1973 01:35:08.880 --> 01:35:11.800 use him in the right way. And I credit Jeff Zimmermann, 1974 01:35:11.880 --> 01:35:14.479 who writes on fangrafts a lot, like he built a 1975 01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:18.199 tool to compare pitch types to major league pitchers to 1976 01:35:18.279 --> 01:35:20.960 see like how similar or what are the fastballs that 1977 01:35:21.039 --> 01:35:22.720 look like this? What are the change ups that look 1978 01:35:22.800 --> 01:35:24.880 like this? And that's been a really helpful thing for 1979 01:35:24.920 --> 01:35:26.760 me to help gut check when I look at a 1980 01:35:26.800 --> 01:35:29.039 guy and have access to that kind of data, like 1981 01:35:29.239 --> 01:35:31.239 is that pitch actually going to play? Like? How good 1982 01:35:31.319 --> 01:35:33.479 is that? What does it look like? Was that pitch 1983 01:35:33.600 --> 01:35:36.039 also good? For all of the data that I could 1984 01:35:36.039 --> 01:35:39.880 find for Ben Shields, pitches, all of them comp to sliders, 1985 01:35:39.880 --> 01:35:44.279 to fastballs, to curveballs that look really good and we 1986 01:35:44.319 --> 01:35:46.600 would want to see that all in one pitcher. So 1987 01:35:46.880 --> 01:35:50.119 I'm honestly as excited about Ben Shields as anybody. And 1988 01:35:51.079 --> 01:35:53.039 that's absolutely nowhere. 1989 01:35:52.800 --> 01:35:54.840 That's a good dig they got me more so he 1990 01:35:54.880 --> 01:35:57.680 was third on my list here, but I was not 1991 01:35:57.800 --> 01:36:01.239 thinking about him in this context at all. Also, that's 1992 01:36:01.319 --> 01:36:03.840 good stuff. I just want to put a pin on 1993 01:36:03.840 --> 01:36:05.960 one other name. I don't know if you watched any 1994 01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:11.840 Allen Facundo, Kundo, I'm at Adio. Yeah. 1995 01:36:11.880 --> 01:36:13.840 I may have watched a little bit, but I don't. 1996 01:36:14.199 --> 01:36:16.600 He was twenty one years old, he was in single 1997 01:36:16.680 --> 01:36:20.119 A just kind of a bigger, harder throwing lefty that 1998 01:36:20.199 --> 01:36:24.239 I just was like into the execution and pitchability that 1999 01:36:24.319 --> 01:36:27.479 he was showing. But I'm assuming Tommy John struck because 2000 01:36:27.479 --> 01:36:30.239 he went on the full season in June and never 2001 01:36:30.279 --> 01:36:32.800 saw him again. So I didn't want to like that 2002 01:36:32.920 --> 01:36:35.239 might have been my choice here, but I just wanted 2003 01:36:35.600 --> 01:36:37.680 to give that name a shout to see, keep an 2004 01:36:37.720 --> 01:36:39.920 eye out when he comes back what he might look like, 2005 01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:43.039 because I was kind of getting into Facundo too. But yeah, 2006 01:36:43.079 --> 01:36:45.640 Ben Shields, I don't make me. You make me want 2007 01:36:45.680 --> 01:36:46.920 to go watch him again. 2008 01:36:46.720 --> 01:36:50.439 Now, dude, I highly recommend it. It's so fun. 2009 01:36:50.680 --> 01:36:53.159 I was into it. I didn't take a lot of notes, 2010 01:36:53.199 --> 01:36:54.520 but he was up here. 2011 01:36:54.680 --> 01:36:57.720 Yeah, it's it's a it's a fun look like he's 2012 01:36:57.760 --> 01:37:02.119 He's one that really really pressed and doing it up 2013 01:37:02.159 --> 01:37:05.039 at double A and high A from like nowhere. It 2014 01:37:05.119 --> 01:37:06.079 was impressive stuff. 2015 01:37:06.239 --> 01:37:08.920 Yeah, and I'm still I want to see Tyrone Nulie, 2016 01:37:09.039 --> 01:37:12.079 my pick from last year, come back from his Timmy John. 2017 01:37:12.119 --> 01:37:14.760 I don't think he didn't pitch at all this last year, 2018 01:37:14.840 --> 01:37:17.960 which has been my theme with the Yankees B side arms, Matt. 2019 01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:19.680 I pick a guy and they have Tommy John don't 2020 01:37:19.680 --> 01:37:23.760 even pitch. Hopefully that doesn't happen with Trent Sellers here, 2021 01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:26.640 hopefully not. But I was I had on my short 2022 01:37:26.680 --> 01:37:29.560 list to Gabrielle Barbosa, who I saw I got taken 2023 01:37:29.560 --> 01:37:32.840 into the minor league portion of draft. Today, let's move 2024 01:37:32.880 --> 01:37:35.039 to the bats man. I'll let you go first with 2025 01:37:35.119 --> 01:37:36.039 the Yankees bats. 2026 01:37:36.359 --> 01:37:40.520 All right, My Yankees bat is a fun one. I 2027 01:37:40.880 --> 01:37:42.520 did like quite a few of these guys. I thought 2028 01:37:42.520 --> 01:37:45.239 there were quite a few interesting ones that were worth 2029 01:37:45.479 --> 01:37:49.199 looking at. You know, my boy Durbin, we have talked 2030 01:37:49.199 --> 01:37:52.279 about ad nauseum. I'm excited for him to get a shot, 2031 01:37:52.319 --> 01:37:55.079 and I hope he really succeeds next year. He I 2032 01:37:55.079 --> 01:37:57.520 think could be a real fun spark plug for those 2033 01:37:57.560 --> 01:38:00.560 boring ass Yankees and but the the bat that I 2034 01:38:00.640 --> 01:38:02.880 lendsed on, I'm actually pretty interested in. You know, the 2035 01:38:02.960 --> 01:38:04.880 Yankees over the past couple of years have had a 2036 01:38:04.920 --> 01:38:10.119 real catching pipeline, Like they have developed so many catchers 2037 01:38:10.359 --> 01:38:13.079 that have gone on to either be good or moved 2038 01:38:13.119 --> 01:38:15.760 off the position, but are still like pretty good catchers. 2039 01:38:15.840 --> 01:38:18.279 They got good stuff for them in trades. 2040 01:38:18.119 --> 01:38:20.079 Or they got good stuff for them in trades exactly. 2041 01:38:20.239 --> 01:38:22.520 And there were a couple of that I was looking 2042 01:38:22.560 --> 01:38:24.680 at here. You know, Raphael Flores, I think he might 2043 01:38:24.720 --> 01:38:29.479 be a touch over our roster percentages, but he was one. 2044 01:38:29.840 --> 01:38:31.800 He was one percent, so I was looking at him too, 2045 01:38:31.880 --> 01:38:34.359 and thought that might be an interesting one catcher. Looks 2046 01:38:34.399 --> 01:38:36.680 like he can catch, like had some things that I 2047 01:38:36.680 --> 01:38:38.159 really like. I watched quite a bit of him at 2048 01:38:38.159 --> 01:38:39.800 Somerset and thought he looked pretty good. 2049 01:38:40.399 --> 01:38:43.960 Rodriguez was also still only one percent September, which I 2050 01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:44.880 was kind of surprised. 2051 01:38:44.960 --> 01:38:47.000 And that's my guy. Yeah, they added him to the 2052 01:38:47.039 --> 01:38:49.359 forty man. He's played a bunch of different positions, so 2053 01:38:49.399 --> 01:38:52.000 again there's some of this utility here. But I watching 2054 01:38:52.079 --> 01:38:54.960 him hit, I love it. It's so goofy. The setup 2055 01:38:55.039 --> 01:38:58.159 he like points his left elbow directly at the pitcher 2056 01:38:58.279 --> 01:39:02.000 in this weird ass setup. He's got like the Marcelo Zuna, 2057 01:39:02.159 --> 01:39:07.000 like really pigeon toed leg in. But he's a huge dude, 2058 01:39:07.119 --> 01:39:09.920 and he's when he swings all of that stuff, all 2059 01:39:09.920 --> 01:39:12.000 of those like weird ticks that I kind of love 2060 01:39:12.079 --> 01:39:15.199 from an asthetic perspective. When he lifts this leg, it's 2061 01:39:15.520 --> 01:39:18.199 so smooth and he is coiled, and then his hands 2062 01:39:18.199 --> 01:39:21.319 are so fast. He's just like so short for a 2063 01:39:21.359 --> 01:39:24.760 pretty big guy. He's so short and direct to the ball. 2064 01:39:24.960 --> 01:39:27.800 It's no wonder that the dude ran a fourteen point 2065 01:39:27.800 --> 01:39:31.159 seven percent strikeout rate that is elite. That is so good. 2066 01:39:31.199 --> 01:39:33.920 I mean it's not like quite Caleb Durban elite, but 2067 01:39:34.039 --> 01:39:38.000 it is damn close. And considering that he popped ten homers, 2068 01:39:38.119 --> 01:39:41.720 fifteen doubles, and four triples in three hundred and thirty 2069 01:39:41.760 --> 01:39:44.199 three plate appearances this year, I think this guy is 2070 01:39:44.239 --> 01:39:48.159 a real hitter and is like major league quality maybe 2071 01:39:48.239 --> 01:39:50.800 right now. And if he can play catcher, which I'm 2072 01:39:50.840 --> 01:39:52.880 not sure of. You know, they moved him around a lot, 2073 01:39:52.920 --> 01:39:55.359 I think partly because they aren't convinced he's a good 2074 01:39:55.439 --> 01:39:58.039 catcher and they're seeing they think his bat might be 2075 01:39:58.079 --> 01:39:59.720 able to play, and so they're seeing, like, can he 2076 01:39:59.760 --> 01:40:02.279 play some of these other positions. He's played some third, 2077 01:40:02.399 --> 01:40:04.560 has a pretty good arm, he's played some first played 2078 01:40:04.560 --> 01:40:07.640 some left. Yeah, you know, he's bounced around. But I 2079 01:40:07.680 --> 01:40:10.000 think that the Yankees are looking at him like this 2080 01:40:10.039 --> 01:40:13.239 guy's gonna hit. He might be a super utility or 2081 01:40:13.399 --> 01:40:17.279 maybe maybe their catching development continues and he could be 2082 01:40:17.560 --> 01:40:20.359 a catcher as well. So Hayes dis Rodriguez is my guy. 2083 01:40:20.439 --> 01:40:22.359 I think he's gonna be really good. And I was 2084 01:40:22.439 --> 01:40:24.840 I was pumped to see the Yankees take him and 2085 01:40:25.479 --> 01:40:26.239 put him on the forty. 2086 01:40:26.319 --> 01:40:28.159 I think I was thinking about him myself. I was 2087 01:40:28.199 --> 01:40:31.239 also thinking about first year player Guy Brendon Jones. I 2088 01:40:31.279 --> 01:40:33.560 don't know if you watch Oh yeah I did from 2089 01:40:33.640 --> 01:40:37.560 k State. He had a nice intro. W Yeah, yeah. 2090 01:40:37.680 --> 01:40:41.800 I just kind of decided to go with my guy. 2091 01:40:42.039 --> 01:40:44.479 Like I was like, I'm not really sure if he's 2092 01:40:44.520 --> 01:40:47.119 a major leaguer necessarily, but I did talk to a 2093 01:40:47.159 --> 01:40:49.800 scout that was like, he's the kind of guy somehow, 2094 01:40:49.960 --> 01:40:52.279 some way, we're gonna see him in the big leagues. 2095 01:40:52.439 --> 01:40:57.039 And that's rock Regio. This dude is just so much 2096 01:40:57.079 --> 01:41:00.319 fun to watch you scrolled, go to his MiLB dot 2097 01:41:00.319 --> 01:41:02.800 com page, scroll down to his highlights, and it's just 2098 01:41:02.920 --> 01:41:09.680 like one after another. He made maybe the greatest defensive 2099 01:41:09.680 --> 01:41:12.880 play at shortstop I have ever seen. Most ridiculous play. 2100 01:41:13.079 --> 01:41:15.319 He runs out to centerfield and his short fly ball 2101 01:41:15.439 --> 01:41:18.000 makes the catch, falls over the centerfielder. I think he 2102 01:41:18.039 --> 01:41:20.079 got hurt on that play too and missed some time, 2103 01:41:20.239 --> 01:41:22.960 and then just blindly throws the ball over his head 2104 01:41:23.000 --> 01:41:24.800 to get the guy at the second at second base 2105 01:41:24.800 --> 01:41:27.760 who needed to tag up, like it was just ridiculous. 2106 01:41:27.920 --> 01:41:30.840 But and there he steals home. And he's hitting walk 2107 01:41:30.880 --> 01:41:34.560 off hits all the times, like his WPA is probably high. 2108 01:41:34.920 --> 01:41:37.239 I feel like even though even though his you know, 2109 01:41:37.399 --> 01:41:41.039 season stat line is is not super overwhelming here two 2110 01:41:41.119 --> 01:41:44.640 twenty one, three forty nine, three ninety seven slash and 2111 01:41:44.840 --> 01:41:47.600 high a four hundred and eighty played appearances. He was 2112 01:41:47.640 --> 01:41:50.560 their fourth round pick out Oklahoma State in twenty twenty three. 2113 01:41:50.960 --> 01:41:53.039 Not a real big guy who listened at five to nine, 2114 01:41:53.159 --> 01:41:56.760 did hit eleven home runs, He did steal twenty seven bases. 2115 01:41:57.279 --> 01:42:00.199 That was a one hundred and seventeen WRC plus and 2116 01:42:00.279 --> 01:42:04.000 delli strikeout. You know, guy walks a lot fourteen point 2117 01:42:04.079 --> 01:42:06.760 eight percent, struck out twenty percent. You know, you don't 2118 01:42:06.800 --> 01:42:08.960 hate to see that. I don't know how much major 2119 01:42:09.039 --> 01:42:12.159 league impact is necessarily in the bat. I don't even 2120 01:42:12.199 --> 01:42:15.199 know what the realistic chances of him being a big leader. 2121 01:42:15.199 --> 01:42:18.000 But this guy is just a gamer man and he's 2122 01:42:18.039 --> 01:42:20.880 just like one of my favorite as a fan of baseball, 2123 01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:23.279 just one of my favorite, if not my favorite minor 2124 01:42:23.359 --> 01:42:24.119 leader to watch. 2125 01:42:24.319 --> 01:42:26.720 Yeah, I love that pick and I love the shout 2126 01:42:26.760 --> 01:42:29.319 to the defense too. Like these kinds of guys, Yeah, 2127 01:42:29.399 --> 01:42:31.600 I think we're talking about they get underrated in this 2128 01:42:31.720 --> 01:42:33.720 kind of thing because one, it's a lot harder for 2129 01:42:33.800 --> 01:42:36.239 us to evaluate unless you really are watching a guy 2130 01:42:36.279 --> 01:42:38.960 a lot, and two that doesn't show up on the 2131 01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:42.199 stat sheet. But that's a thing that major league teams 2132 01:42:42.239 --> 01:42:45.439 really care about. We just started with under him and. 2133 01:42:46.800 --> 01:42:49.359 Reminds me of another one of my favorite minor leaders 2134 01:42:49.359 --> 01:42:52.760 over the last several years, like Hunter stovall the Rockies. 2135 01:42:52.760 --> 01:42:55.960 But I think Rigio is like a little bit more talented. Yeah, 2136 01:42:56.000 --> 01:42:57.800 and you know, one thing I got to give the 2137 01:42:57.880 --> 01:43:00.760 Yankees credit for is that for all the uh, you know, 2138 01:43:00.880 --> 01:43:04.199 resources scouting and all the wise guys stuff that they 2139 01:43:04.199 --> 01:43:07.600 put into their scouting whatever, they still make room and 2140 01:43:07.720 --> 01:43:10.520 draft guys like this, Like they will get guys that 2141 01:43:10.600 --> 01:43:14.880 are just gamers, many good ballplayers. They might not scream 2142 01:43:14.920 --> 01:43:17.439 out on the spreadsheets or whatever they're looking at, but 2143 01:43:17.520 --> 01:43:19.840 like they do value that and they do have a 2144 01:43:19.880 --> 01:43:22.680 slew of guys that are just like fucking ballplayers, man, 2145 01:43:22.760 --> 01:43:26.319 good baseball players, heads and just the winners. Man. I 2146 01:43:26.359 --> 01:43:28.439 think he falls into that category for sure. 2147 01:43:28.600 --> 01:43:31.960 Yeah, I like that pick. I like that shouty to 2148 01:43:32.039 --> 01:43:33.560 end it on a couple of fun. 2149 01:43:33.399 --> 01:43:38.199 Any rocks cheaters number, but yeah, that'll do it, I guess, 2150 01:43:38.319 --> 01:43:41.800 huh or the al these twenty five B side calls. 2151 01:43:41.960 --> 01:43:44.239 We didn't double up on anybody, so we had twenty 2152 01:43:44.279 --> 01:43:45.359 guys here, huh. 2153 01:43:45.159 --> 01:43:47.680 Yeah, I mean we we had a few co signs 2154 01:43:47.720 --> 01:43:48.319 I think in there. 2155 01:43:48.399 --> 01:43:50.800 But there's there's a lot of your picks that were legit, 2156 01:43:50.880 --> 01:43:53.279 like number two on my lists, so that that's fun. 2157 01:43:53.359 --> 01:43:55.439 Yeah, and the same same same of yours on mine, 2158 01:43:55.600 --> 01:43:56.880 Like that they were right there. 2159 01:43:57.199 --> 01:44:00.840 We have one left. We'll do the al centroll next 2160 01:44:00.880 --> 01:44:02.800 time we record. Looking forward to that one. 2161 01:44:02.840 --> 01:44:05.479 Some good fun guys. Yeah, that's that's a fun organ, 2162 01:44:05.840 --> 01:44:06.920 fun fun group too. 2163 01:44:07.079 --> 01:44:09.840 Yeah, again. I'll post videos of these guys when when 2164 01:44:10.079 --> 01:44:13.760 this pett when this recording drops on Twitter at pitching specs, 2165 01:44:13.880 --> 01:44:15.560 you can see some of the stuff we're trying to 2166 01:44:15.600 --> 01:44:18.960 talk about here. Well, we'll let Chicago Farmer take us 2167 01:44:18.960 --> 01:44:21.439 out and we'll talk to you next time. See ya. 2168 01:44:21.640 --> 01:44:25.399 Ninety five miles an hour riding to his head. 2169 01:44:27.079 --> 01:44:28.159 You hop it down. 2170 01:44:28.159 --> 01:44:33.119 First with the lump bonius face, and on the very 2171 01:44:33.319 --> 01:44:37.079 next pitch he up and stove second face. 2172 01:44:39.039 --> 01:44:49.359 With greatst speed. He wasn't born. He had yes, uniforn