1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:05,599 Speaker 1: What's going on? 2 00:00:05,759 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. It 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,080 is heard live every day from noon to three on 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,839 WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you want exclusive content 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,160 like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, I Daily 6 00:00:17,199 --> 00:00:19,239 show prep with all of the links, become a patron, 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,640 go to thepeakclendarshow dot com. Make sure you hit the 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,679 smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:28,359 your support. 11 00:00:29,039 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 3: We're talking about government efficiency, waste, fraud and abuse. In 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,560 a very interesting interview last night, Brett Bair did a 13 00:00:36,759 --> 00:00:39,960 like thirty five minutes sit down with Elon Musk and 14 00:00:40,359 --> 00:00:42,759 in the Doge Boys about all of the things that 15 00:00:42,799 --> 00:00:45,119 they have found some shocking clips coming out of that. 16 00:00:45,439 --> 00:00:47,640 Before we get into some of that interview, I want 17 00:00:47,679 --> 00:00:49,520 to jump back to our phone lines. Mark's been hanging 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,799 on for the last couple of minutes. Market afternoon. You're 19 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,600 on the Peak Calendar Show with Nick Craig. What's going on? 20 00:00:55,039 --> 00:00:58,799 Speaker 4: Hey, Nick, thanks for taking my call. Sure, Yeah, I 21 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,439 just wanted to say I'm preaching to the choir here, 22 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:07,040 so this is more of a PSA. But I started 23 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,560 my career in the military, and within a few years 24 00:01:10,599 --> 00:01:14,159 in the federal government, and then I couldn't stand it anymore. 25 00:01:17,159 --> 00:01:26,239 Basically saw you know, gross incompetence, laziness, et cetera. So 26 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:31,680 I left that and went for many years in the 27 00:01:32,079 --> 00:01:36,480 you know, big companies and was responsible for a lot 28 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:43,680 of groups overseeing M and A and the associated rationalization 29 00:01:44,079 --> 00:01:50,040 of those groups. That's something you never see in the government. 30 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:57,040 There's no incentives to do that. The only incentives in 31 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:02,079 government is just to continually grow the and there's never 32 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:08,400 any feedback to cut that. So I think the difference 33 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:13,599 that's happening with Doge and the cabinet members is they're 34 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:18,879 looking at it horizontally from an organizational perspective with the 35 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:25,240 cabinet guys, and then the vertical is everything that Elon 36 00:02:25,319 --> 00:02:29,159 and his group can do from a financial perspective and 37 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:36,400 following the money. So in short, we're well overdue for this. 38 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,240 My fear is that once this is done, it's not 39 00:02:42,319 --> 00:02:47,719 put in place to be repeatable and continually do. And 40 00:02:48,439 --> 00:02:55,960 my last comment is when they do that, it's almost 41 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,560 like these bills that are built by lobbyists, And you know, 42 00:03:00,599 --> 00:03:04,280 why do you think these numbers are always like fifty billion, 43 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,199 you know, or one hundred billion. Right, there's no there's 44 00:03:08,199 --> 00:03:12,039 no bottom up estimates or direct correlation of where the 45 00:03:12,039 --> 00:03:12,639 money's going. 46 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 5: And I'll end. 47 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,479 Speaker 4: I'll end with this appreciation time is bringing it back 48 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:25,240 locally as an investor in homes, when I since I 49 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,680 have everything paid for, when I pay my taxes at 50 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,800 the end of the year, you know, half of my 51 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:37,000 property tax goes to meclaburse schools. Oh yeah, which, as 52 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:42,240 we know, which can't be controlled. And the state lost 53 00:03:42,319 --> 00:03:46,680 the Supreme Court case with trying to hold them accountable 54 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:51,400 with metrics, So we have that problem locally as well. 55 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: It's in all forms of government market. And let me 56 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,280 say not only thanks for the call this afternoon, but 57 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,360 thanks for your service to our country and appreciate that 58 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,599 and your comments. It reminds me of a story or 59 00:04:03,639 --> 00:04:05,479 a conversation I was having with a buddy. This is 60 00:04:05,759 --> 00:04:09,759 probably about two months ago. He works for a government 61 00:04:09,919 --> 00:04:16,199 contractor that works in the military space. That's as broad 62 00:04:16,199 --> 00:04:18,160 as I'm going to get with it. And he was 63 00:04:18,199 --> 00:04:20,920 at a trade show and got up in and was 64 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,959 chatting with an individual at the trade show that had 65 00:04:24,079 --> 00:04:28,879 just started working within the federal government in some avenue 66 00:04:28,959 --> 00:04:33,920 of the military and the guy telled him that he 67 00:04:34,319 --> 00:04:37,120 started like maybe six months before they had this conversation, 68 00:04:37,199 --> 00:04:40,600 and he's an engineer working for the federal government. And 69 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,519 he started his new position and he was banging out 70 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,079 jobs very quickly. Right that somebody had come with him 71 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,519 to him with a request, Hey, we need this engineer, 72 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,360 we need this looked at, we need this put together, 73 00:04:51,439 --> 00:04:54,160 whether it was cat or some sort of auto draft 74 00:04:54,199 --> 00:04:56,959 design whatever. And he was he was banging out these projects, 75 00:04:56,959 --> 00:04:59,920 getting him done very quickly. And then his co workers 76 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,639 came over to him, and this was after he was 77 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,519 there a couple of weeks and said, hey, man, you 78 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:08,560 got to slow down. They told him, you're handing out 79 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,160 these projects too quickly, You're working too efficiently. You got 80 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,920 to slow this down. We typically take six to eight 81 00:05:14,959 --> 00:05:17,199 weeks to get back to people when they you know, 82 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,439 they come to us and say they need something done. 83 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,920 We typically have a six to eight week turnaround. So 84 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,759 here's a guy, younger guy, retired from the military, now 85 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,800 working for the federal government in the engineering field, who 86 00:05:30,879 --> 00:05:34,240 is being told by his co workers that he needs 87 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,759 to slow his role and he needs to work at 88 00:05:36,759 --> 00:05:40,079 a slower pace because he was getting too many jobs 89 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,439 done too quickly. Have you ever heard of that happening 90 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,800 anywhere else? If you went down and drove down to 91 00:05:48,959 --> 00:05:52,279 any business in Charlotte today, walked into the front door 92 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,839 and said, I demand to speak to the CEO of 93 00:05:54,879 --> 00:05:58,600 this company and asked them, have you ever encouraged your 94 00:05:58,639 --> 00:06:02,680 employees to do things at a slower pace? Have you 95 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,560 ever said to your team, Hey, you guys are working 96 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,639 too quickly and too efficiently. You need to slow this down. 97 00:06:09,759 --> 00:06:13,399 You need to drag the process out and make things 98 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,120 take longer. I think you'd be hard pressed to find 99 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,079 anybody in private business that operates in that manner. But 100 00:06:21,199 --> 00:06:24,319 that is a just a real example relayed to me 101 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,240 from a good friend of mine as to how things 102 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,199 happen within the federal government. This idea that you just 103 00:06:31,639 --> 00:06:35,680 slow walk and it's normal and acceptable for things that 104 00:06:35,759 --> 00:06:39,680 should take just two weeks to take six or eight weeks. 105 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,199 And what are you gonna do? What's the alternative? If 106 00:06:44,199 --> 00:06:48,600 you're inside government asking other government for help, what are 107 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:50,959 you gonna do? There's nowhere else to go. You're not 108 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,560 gonna shop around and find somebody else to do it. 109 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,600 You've got to stay within your channel. You've got to 110 00:06:56,639 --> 00:06:59,319 stay within your within your avenue, within your road, and 111 00:06:59,319 --> 00:07:02,279 that's within the federal government. So you need some engineering 112 00:07:02,319 --> 00:07:06,319 project done, you need some AutoCAD thing drafted. This is 113 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,639 where you go. And if it takes six to eight weeks, 114 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,319 well then your project gets delayed by six to eight weeks. 115 00:07:12,759 --> 00:07:14,879 Who cares just the process? 116 00:07:15,959 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 6: Now. 117 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: I wasn't shocked to hear that story. I wasn't necessarily 118 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,720 surprised to hear that story, but there was a certain 119 00:07:23,759 --> 00:07:26,399 part of me that thought, like, okay, it's as bad 120 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,279 as I thought it was. When the story was being 121 00:07:29,279 --> 00:07:31,079 relayed to me a couple of weeks ago, I thought, 122 00:07:31,079 --> 00:07:33,800 you know, okay, I'm not surprised, but yeah, it kind 123 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,399 of pins home every single issue I thought was going 124 00:07:36,399 --> 00:07:40,000 on in the federal government exemplified right here in real time. 125 00:07:41,519 --> 00:07:44,680 Seven oh four or five, seven eleven ten, Catherine's hanging 126 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,759 online once. She's got a story about some friends in DC. Catherine, 127 00:07:47,759 --> 00:07:49,279 you're on the Calendar Show with Nick Craig. 128 00:07:49,319 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 7: Go ahead, Hi, Yeah, I first story I heard of many, 129 00:07:56,279 --> 00:07:59,959 well quite a few since then, is from a lady 130 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,879 teaching Bible ladies Bible study at my church, and she 131 00:08:04,639 --> 00:08:10,000 was the supervisor manager of a contracting firm that was 132 00:08:10,079 --> 00:08:14,839 hired to help out in a department in Washington, d C. 133 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:21,360 And she personally went there with her team and she 134 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:26,439 said to me that what she was able to do 135 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,600 in half an hour, it took the people there in 136 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:31,920 that department eight. 137 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,399 Speaker 3: Hours to do. That's a nice full day worth of 138 00:08:34,399 --> 00:08:36,600 work you can get done there, Catherine. Eight hours thirty 139 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,399 minute project. I mean, that sounds pretty good to me. 140 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 7: And I have another story of a nurse and a 141 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:47,200 fellow nurse had a good friend, very good close friend 142 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,840 in Washington, d C. Who told her her friend was 143 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,639 a federal employee working in a department there and told 144 00:08:55,720 --> 00:09:01,080 her that some assistant secretary of I don't know what 145 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,720 it was, Secretary Labor or whatever, but the assistant secretary 146 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,120 came to tour their offices where her friend worked, and 147 00:09:09,159 --> 00:09:12,559 she said her friend told her that they had a 148 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:18,200 hard time in her department, looking busy for the hour 149 00:09:18,639 --> 00:09:21,440 that the assistant secretary toured the place. 150 00:09:22,879 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 3: I'm sure you can there's probably some YouTube video you 151 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,000 can pull up and full screen on your computer that 152 00:09:27,039 --> 00:09:29,840 makes it look like you're clicking back and forth between 153 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,679 Excel spreadsheets and all of this stuff done first. 154 00:09:33,879 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 7: These are just two of several stories. 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Davey, 193 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,240 you are on the Peak Counter show with Nick Craig. 194 00:11:44,279 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 8: Go ahead, Hey, hello neck, this is Eve from rock Hill. 195 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,600 I've been retired now three years, so put forty plus 196 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:58,320 years in manufacturing, went from you know, hands on to 197 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,559 managerial to the et cetera. So I may just give 198 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,960 you a couple of stories and what people say about 199 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,720 what you've been talking about. So I had a friend 200 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:13,159 I knew who was a union electrician, so graduated from 201 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:16,039 high school and got him the job, went into work, 202 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,320 and of course he had all skill sets, told him 203 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,360 miss his whole life, started doing all the wiring. Well, 204 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:25,000 someone came along and started with a hammer blasting all 205 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,879 of his work. It was outlet's boom boom, boom, boom. 206 00:12:28,879 --> 00:12:30,639 You're doing too many. You're allowed to do this many 207 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,080 because it's a union job. Stop turn, go get lost somewhere. 208 00:12:34,879 --> 00:12:39,919 And then in my profession, you had estimations you had 209 00:12:39,919 --> 00:12:42,799 to do so many things per hour, or this job 210 00:12:42,879 --> 00:12:45,919 took so many hours. Stay for instance, you were the 211 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,000 essenate was way off and you were able to get 212 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,840 it done in two hours, but it was estimated for 213 00:12:49,919 --> 00:12:54,480 eight there are people there that literally would milk the 214 00:12:54,519 --> 00:12:57,399 rest of the day, I get paid for eight and 215 00:12:57,039 --> 00:12:59,919 do nothing else. And then as a manager, I would 216 00:13:00,039 --> 00:13:04,799 square that when the clock struck the start hour, there 217 00:13:04,799 --> 00:13:07,480 were people there that would say to themselves, Okay, let 218 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,440 me see what can I not do today? And you'd 219 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:13,639 see that in certain individuals over and over again. Of course, 220 00:13:13,639 --> 00:13:15,320 you'd have to read them out to get the doers 221 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,039 and not the people that wanted to do less but 222 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,320 do more. So we had a phrase. We had a saying, 223 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,399 when the paychecks got handed out, thank you, you earned your paycheck. 224 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,080 And those people knew they earned their paycheck. The others 225 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,519 they got their paycheck get wrapped. And that's the same 226 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,000 thing that I feel that's happening with the efficiency in 227 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,519 our government, et cetera. These things are the word gift, 228 00:13:38,519 --> 00:13:42,519 of course is wrong, but super unearned. And you know, 229 00:13:42,799 --> 00:13:45,559 I'm so glad to see that we are cutting back 230 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,720 and handling things like we would handle our own finances 231 00:13:48,759 --> 00:13:49,159 at home. 232 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 3: So I love that, Dave, I'm so glad you brought 233 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,279 up that last part about your own finances. I'd like 234 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:57,759 I talk about this a lot on my on my 235 00:13:57,879 --> 00:14:01,759 Nick Craig show podcast this idea. I mean, every single day, Dave, 236 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,840 you and I and everybody else listening makes decisions about 237 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,320 how we're going to handle our personal finances from are 238 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,159 we going to buy a seven dollars cup of coffee 239 00:14:09,159 --> 00:14:10,440 out or are we going to make one at home 240 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,480 for you know, eighteen cents or however much it costs 241 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,720 to make coffee at home with filters and a little 242 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:16,759 bit of ground coffee. 243 00:14:16,879 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 6: We make those decisions day. 244 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,399 Speaker 8: The problem is yeah, the problem is Nick. People don't 245 00:14:21,399 --> 00:14:24,080 know how to say no. They think everything is yes, yes, yes, yes, 246 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,960 more and more and more and more. And there's there's 247 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,159 a guy used to listen to decades ago every day 248 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,159 before work. His name was doctor Robert King. He was 249 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,159 the dean of King's College, Christian and he would say, 250 00:14:36,399 --> 00:14:39,240 as a boy growing up, there was too much month 251 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,000 left at the end of the money. And so many 252 00:14:43,039 --> 00:14:47,960 people don't know that that that's real. There's too much 253 00:14:48,039 --> 00:14:49,840 month left at the end of m same thing with 254 00:14:49,919 --> 00:14:52,519 our government. You know, I can go on and on. 255 00:14:52,759 --> 00:14:54,759 I'm South Carolina, you know, I'm very fortunate we have 256 00:14:54,799 --> 00:14:57,399 a balanced budget here in South Carolina. Now, I had 257 00:14:57,399 --> 00:15:01,120 another friend just to share this with you. He was 258 00:15:01,159 --> 00:15:04,399 in government and a local city nearby, very very close 259 00:15:04,639 --> 00:15:07,600 to you, and he would have to go to seminars 260 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,600 throughout the country. Well, he met other people in these 261 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,679 seminars with his same position from other parts of the 262 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:16,600 country that their buildings, they were ejected from their buildings 263 00:15:16,759 --> 00:15:19,279 or maybe that's the wrong word, because they couldn't pay 264 00:15:19,279 --> 00:15:21,480 their bills because they didn't have the balanced budget and 265 00:15:21,519 --> 00:15:23,799 it wasn't there as they couldn't pay the rent, et cetera. 266 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,919 They were that's the word evicted. And this is government facilities. 267 00:15:28,559 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 6: Wow. 268 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,039 Speaker 8: So you know there's a time and a point where 269 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,799 people have to say no. 270 00:15:35,799 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 3: No was the answer, and that's and that's really tough 271 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,559 as you look at what's going on right now, Dave, 272 00:15:41,559 --> 00:15:43,919 thanks for the call. Great stories this afternoon at seven 273 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,159 oh four five, seven eleven ten. When you look at 274 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,440 the no that you're talking about, right, this has never 275 00:15:50,559 --> 00:15:54,679 happened before in government. Government has never been told now 276 00:15:55,639 --> 00:15:57,720 and let let let me make sure I'm clear with this. 277 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,679 The fault is not the employee. The individuals that are 278 00:16:02,879 --> 00:16:05,639 attempting to do their work. Are going back to the 279 00:16:05,639 --> 00:16:08,360 story I relayed in the last segment, The fault is 280 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,519 not with the guy that wants to do his job. 281 00:16:10,919 --> 00:16:15,320 The fault is the apparatus that is government that has 282 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:20,720 told these individuals, that has created the environment where there is, 283 00:16:20,799 --> 00:16:24,480 in fact, not only no incentive to get the work done, 284 00:16:25,279 --> 00:16:28,879 but they actively work against getting the work done in 285 00:16:28,919 --> 00:16:30,480 a quick and efficient manner. 286 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 6: Right. 287 00:16:30,919 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 3: It's the overall government system as a whole. There are 288 00:16:34,759 --> 00:16:38,919 so many great individuals, hard working individuals that have to 289 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:43,840 try and play this game within state, federal, and local 290 00:16:43,919 --> 00:16:46,639 governments day in and day out. They're not bad people, 291 00:16:46,679 --> 00:16:49,879 they're not bad workers. It's the system as a whole 292 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,840 that is broken that encourages this kind of activity to 293 00:16:53,879 --> 00:16:57,279 take place, Plain and simple. It is a system issue, 294 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,600 and it is being turned upside down on its head 295 00:17:00,919 --> 00:17:02,480 right now at the national level. 296 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: All right, So spring is here a time of renewal 297 00:17:05,319 --> 00:17:09,880 and celebrations. You've got graduations, weddings, anniversaries and the special 298 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,440 days for mom and dad. 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I urge you do not 308 00:17:44,599 --> 00:17:48,119 wait until it's too late this spring, celebrate your past. 309 00:17:48,319 --> 00:17:51,759 Visit Creative Video today and let them preserve your legacy 310 00:17:51,799 --> 00:17:54,960 with the love and care that it deserves. Creative Video 311 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:59,119 Preserving Family Memories since nineteen ninety seven, located in mint Hill, 312 00:17:59,319 --> 00:18:02,559 just off four eighty. Mail orders are accepted to get 313 00:18:02,599 --> 00:18:05,640 all the details that create a video dot com. 314 00:18:06,079 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 3: I want to get into this interview. Last night, Brett 315 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,559 Bair did like a thick, a thirty or thirty five 316 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,640 minutes sit down with Elon Musk and the boys over 317 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,720 at DOZE, the Department of Government Efficiency, and it was 318 00:18:17,759 --> 00:18:21,000 a very eye opening interview. We've heard from Elon and 319 00:18:21,039 --> 00:18:22,960 we've seen a lot of him in media. He's done 320 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,920 plenty of interviews with people like Sean Hannity and other 321 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,680 folks on Fox. He's done Joe Rogan and a couple 322 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,359 of other podcasts over the last few months, and we've 323 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,680 got some insight into what's going on in DOGE, what's 324 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,480 going on within the Department of Government Efficiency. This interview 325 00:18:38,599 --> 00:18:41,079 by Brett Baar yesterday was really really well done, and 326 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:42,599 I'm just going to take it right from the top. 327 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,640 Starts asking Elon some questions and we'll just take it 328 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,279 from there, jump in a little bit here and there, 329 00:18:47,279 --> 00:18:49,240 and of course your calls as well. At seven oh 330 00:18:49,319 --> 00:18:52,400 four five seven eleven ten, here's a last night's interview 331 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,880 with Brett Baer and the Elon Muskin DOES team. 332 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 9: Thanks for having us and doing this. I know there's 333 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,319 a lot of interest in this, you know. First let 334 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,720 me start with you, Elon. What are the budgetary savings 335 00:19:05,799 --> 00:19:08,680 goals and how much do you think you've achieved so far. 336 00:19:09,839 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: Our goal is to reduce the deficit by a trillion dollars, 337 00:19:14,319 --> 00:19:16,960 so from a nominal depth SIT of two trillion to 338 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,960 track cut the depth sit in half to one trillion, 339 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,160 or looked at it in total federal spending, to drop 340 00:19:22,519 --> 00:19:24,920 the federal spending from seven trillion to six trillion. We 341 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,279 want to reduce the spending by eliminating waste and forward 342 00:19:28,319 --> 00:19:32,519 reduce the spending by fifteen percent, which seems really quite achievable. 343 00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:37,480 The government is not efficient and there's a lot of 344 00:19:37,519 --> 00:19:41,119 waste forward, so we feel confident that fifteen percent reduction 345 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:47,599 can be done without affecting any of the critical government services. 346 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 6: I'm going to talk. 347 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: Isn't that remarkable? I'm just going to stop it right there. 348 00:19:51,839 --> 00:19:54,799 Elon musk over what he's learned in the last couple 349 00:19:54,799 --> 00:19:58,359 of months, believes that he can do a fifteen percent 350 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,759 cut to the government essentially have not essentially have no 351 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,240 impact on what the government does, none of the services 352 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,160 they provide, nothing a fifteen percent cut. 353 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 6: And you heard from him there at the top. 354 00:20:11,599 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 3: The current deficits about two trillion dollars a year. They're 355 00:20:15,279 --> 00:20:18,240 not even talking about reverting that back completely. They're trying 356 00:20:18,279 --> 00:20:22,279 to just cut it in half a trillion dollars in savings. 357 00:20:22,559 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 6: It's a remarkable amount. More from the interview. 358 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 9: At making it better and talk to all the guys 359 00:20:27,759 --> 00:20:29,960 here about the specifics. But for you, what's the most 360 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,880 astonishing thing you've found out in this process? 361 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: The sheer amount of waste and ford in the government. 362 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:40,799 It is astonishing it's mind blowing. Just we routinely encounter 363 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:47,200 wastes of a billion dollars or more casually. You know, 364 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:53,440 for example, like the simple survey that was literally ten 365 00:20:53,519 --> 00:20:55,440 questions survey that you could do with survey monkey ushed 366 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,160 about ten thousand dollars. Was the government was being charged 367 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,000 almost a billion dollars for that for just a survey. 368 00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:04,559 A billion dollars for a simple online survey do you 369 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,039 like the national park? And then there pays me no 370 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,039 feedback loop for what will be done with that survey. 371 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,519 So to say we would just go to nothing, it 372 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:11,480 was like good saying. 373 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 6: You technically or especially was just insane. I saw. 374 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:21,079 Speaker 3: Hold on a second, here, the federal government was spending 375 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:30,000 a billion dollars on a survey about parks, National Park survey. 376 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,599 They spend a billion to somebody who's charging them a 377 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:37,640 billion dollars to conduct that survey. I don't how do 378 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,599 you even begin to wrap your head around how that's 379 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,920 even possible. I mean, you can go on Google. You 380 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,559 have a free Gmail account, and you can go on 381 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,480 Google and create a Google. 382 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,319 Speaker 6: Form for free and collect feedback. 383 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 3: Let's say you needed a higher level service than the 384 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,039 free Google form. Okay, I'll give you that you spend 385 00:21:58,079 --> 00:22:01,240 a couple thousand dollars on a on a subscription to 386 00:22:01,279 --> 00:22:04,000 some online survey company and get it done. 387 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,319 Speaker 6: But no, that's not good enough for the federal government. 388 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 3: We've got to spend a billion dollars getting a survey 389 00:22:11,039 --> 00:22:16,519 on national parts. It's absurd, and it's all over the 390 00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:20,880 government at every single level of not only the FEDS, 391 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,720 but locally and in the States. This is the status 392 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,279 quo for government. There's never been any incentive to cut costs. 393 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,759 There's never been any incentive to do things quote unquote 394 00:22:33,839 --> 00:22:36,960 on the cheap. So yeah, if it costs a billion 395 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,720 dollars to collect what kind of tree somebody likes in 396 00:22:39,759 --> 00:22:42,640 a national force, who cares not our money? 397 00:22:42,759 --> 00:22:45,799 Speaker 6: Right, we can just continue to spend it. Nobody's the wiser. 398 00:22:45,759 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 9: A government employee. And you're supposed to be one hundred 399 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,160 and thirty days. Are you going to continue past that 400 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,079 or do you think that's what you're going to do? 401 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,319 Speaker 1: Or well, I think we will accomplish most of the 402 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,240 work required to reduce the FID by trillion dollars within 403 00:23:01,319 --> 00:23:01,960 that timeframe. 404 00:23:02,519 --> 00:23:05,559 Speaker 9: So in that timeframe one hundred and thirty days, and 405 00:23:05,599 --> 00:23:08,480 the process is a report at some point at one 406 00:23:08,519 --> 00:23:10,440 hundred days, not really a report. 407 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,279 Speaker 1: We are cutting the waste and prod in real time, 408 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,079 so every day that passes. Our goal is to reduce 409 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,839 the waste and prod by four billion dollars a day, 410 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,160 every day, seven days a week. And so far we 411 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:21,839 are succeeding. 412 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 9: And I'm going to talk to the specifics. But there 413 00:23:24,519 --> 00:23:28,440 obviously are DOGE critics who are reading all kinds of stuff. 414 00:23:28,839 --> 00:23:31,319 Obviously lawmakers on the other side of the aisle are 415 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,559 attacking you, and they characterize the approach is this fire 416 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,000 ready and then aim, and. 417 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 6: How do you approach that? 418 00:23:41,279 --> 00:23:42,799 Speaker 9: How do you respond to that? 419 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: Well, I do agree that we actually want to be 420 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,279 careful in the cuts. So we want to measure twice 421 00:23:49,319 --> 00:23:55,160 if not thrice, and cut once. And actually that is 422 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,599 our approach. They may characterize it as shooting from the hip, 423 00:23:59,599 --> 00:24:02,480 but it is anything at that. Which is not to 424 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,640 say that we don't make mistakes. If we were to 425 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,759 approach this with the standard of making no mistakes at all, 426 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,599 that would be like saying some in baseball's got a 427 00:24:10,599 --> 00:24:15,119 bat a thousand. That's impossible. So when we do make mistakes, 428 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,000 we correct them quickly. 429 00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:18,279 Speaker 6: And we move on. 430 00:24:18,839 --> 00:24:21,599 Speaker 3: You know that right there is I'm glad Elon Musk 431 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,160 characterized it the way that he said, use the word thrice, 432 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,759 which you don't hear very often. Measure not once twice, 433 00:24:28,799 --> 00:24:33,519 but thrice if you believe the characteristic of the characterization 434 00:24:33,599 --> 00:24:35,680 of this from the left. You've even heard our own 435 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,039 governor Josh Stein make the joke during his State of 436 00:24:38,079 --> 00:24:41,799 the State address that Elon Musk's taking a chainsaw to 437 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,000 the federal government. He's just in there willy nilly, waving 438 00:24:46,039 --> 00:24:50,440 around a chainsaw, cutting anything and everything that has a pause. Well, 439 00:24:50,519 --> 00:24:53,359 let's see, who do I believe the governor of North 440 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,000 Carolina who's getting his talking points from left wing hack 441 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,640 media outlets, or the guy that's actually doing it and 442 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,880 the team that is you know, if you watched this 443 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,519 interview last night. I know we're not on an audio 444 00:25:05,559 --> 00:25:07,960 platform right now, but if you watch this interview last night, 445 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,119 who do I believe the guy that's doing it and 446 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,160 the team that's sitting behind him, or a bunch of 447 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,920 left wing hacks on MSNBC. I think I'm gonna have 448 00:25:16,079 --> 00:25:18,519 to say I believe e La Musk in this case. 449 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,400 He even says, yeah, We've made mistakes. We're going to 450 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,880 continue to make mistakes. When we make those, we're gonna 451 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,720 correct it. How refreshing is that to hear? I mean, 452 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,079 you don't need any smoke blown at you or anything. 453 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,519 We're going to make mistakes. When we do, We'll do 454 00:25:33,559 --> 00:25:37,039 our best to fix them. That is so refreshing to hear. 455 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,480 I'm not sure that has ever been said in relation 456 00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:42,039 to the federal government, not once. 457 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: All right, if you're listening to this show, you know 458 00:25:44,519 --> 00:25:46,480 I try to keep up with all sorts of current events, 459 00:25:46,519 --> 00:25:48,599 and I know you do too, And you've probably heard 460 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,720 me say get your news from multiple sources. Why well, 461 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,440 because it's how you detect media bias, which is why 462 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,680 I've been so impressed with ground News. It's an app 463 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,079 and it's a website, and it combines news from around 464 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,519 the world in one place, so you can compare coverage 465 00:26:04,759 --> 00:26:07,480 and verify information. 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Your subscription 476 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:43,720 then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports 477 00:26:43,759 --> 00:26:47,039 Ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. 478 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,279 Speaker 3: So I want to go back to some more of 479 00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:52,720 this interview. Brett bahar elon Musk the DOGE team talking 480 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,319 about some of the issues last night on Fox News. 481 00:26:55,319 --> 00:26:57,119 They're his exclusive interview. Take a listen. 482 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 9: Some people say this shouldn't take a rocket scientist, Steve Davis, 483 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:06,160 you are a rocket scientist. It used to be yeah, 484 00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:09,279 and now essentially you're the chief operating officer of DOCH 485 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,519 day to day operations. 486 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 5: Fair to say, yeah, part of part of the Dose team. 487 00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:16,559 Speaker 6: So how did you end up here? 488 00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 9: What's the biggest challenge? 489 00:27:17,759 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 8: You see? 490 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,279 Speaker 5: The reason I'm here, which is probably for many, is 491 00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:24,640 that I think the goal is incredibly inspiring. I think 492 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,440 most of the taxpayers in the country would agree that 493 00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:30,039 in order to have the country going bankrupt would be 494 00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:32,240 a very bad thing, and therefore the country going not 495 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,920 bankrupt is a good thing that all of us are 496 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,559 willing to kind of put our lives on hold in 497 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,400 order to do. I think the thing that's special right 498 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,119 now is we actually believe there's a chance to succeed, 499 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,440 that there's an administration that's supportive and a great cabinet 500 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,839 and just a great group that will actually make success 501 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,960 a possible outcome. And I think that's given the inspiring 502 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,720 mission and given the non zero chance of success, it 503 00:27:57,799 --> 00:27:58,319 was worth dowing. 504 00:27:58,799 --> 00:28:02,079 Speaker 1: I just like to sort of rehempasize that point. The 505 00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:05,279 success of those is only possible with President Trump and 506 00:28:05,319 --> 00:28:07,960 with the outstanding cabinet that he selected. It would be 507 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,720 impossible without the support of the President and the cabinet. 508 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 6: But you're finding the money. 509 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 9: I mean it's big numbers, right, Yeah. 510 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 5: Like Leon said, the minimum impulse bate is often a 511 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,960 billion dollars. So for example, the eight hundred and thirty 512 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,000 million dollars which was the online survey, that's an enormous 513 00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:23,640 amount of money. 514 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 3: Oh, this is this is that Forest Service eight and 515 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,279 thirty million dollars for a survey for the Forest Service. 516 00:28:31,519 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 6: What is the survey? Is everybody that filled it out 517 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,440 get a free gold bar something. 518 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: I mean, how is that even possible, idn't I don't 519 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,240 know how you could even spend that kind of money 520 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,519 for an online survey dealing with national parks. 521 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 6: That's absurd. 522 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 5: That wouldn't have been found if the dog isn't working 523 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,400 with it in that case the Department of Interior. But 524 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,279 then taking it one step further, Doge then publish it 525 00:28:56,319 --> 00:29:00,200 publishes these things on our website for maximum transparency. Now 526 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,440 the general public. It would have been impossible for the 527 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,200 general public to have seen that. Now anyone can just 528 00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:07,960 log into Dodock of any time and see these payments 529 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,920 as they're not yet in real time. They're close, but 530 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,799 they're probably be in real time with the next few weeks. 531 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,119 Speaker 9: But the process it still evolves Congress right at some level. 532 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: We try to keep Congress as informed as possible. But 533 00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:24,839 the Lord does say that money needs to be spent correctly. 534 00:29:24,839 --> 00:29:27,400 It should not be spent fortunately or wastefully. It's not 535 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,319 contrary to Congress to avoid waste and for it. It is 536 00:29:30,359 --> 00:29:33,400 consistent with the law and consistent with Congress. And we've 537 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,599 seen actually great support, at least from the Republican side 538 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,640 of the house. And occasionally it's not Democrats too. You know, 539 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,599 it's nice to see people cross the out once in 540 00:29:43,599 --> 00:29:49,960 a while, but usually when they attack doors, they never 541 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,240 attack any of the specifics. So they'll say what we're 542 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:58,000 doing is somehow unconstitutional or legal or whatever. We're like, well, 543 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,240 which line of the cost savings do you disagree with? 544 00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:04,319 And they count point twenty and we list them all 545 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,680 on those stuck up and the dose handle one x 546 00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:11,359 and you'll see just outrageous things, one outrageous thing after another. 547 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 6: Jill Gavir, that's exactly the case. 548 00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 3: And Eli Musk is absolutely he mentioned earlier of batting 549 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,799 a thousand, he's batting a thousand with that, and it 550 00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:25,880 harpens imperfectly to what we were talking about earlier. If 551 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,240 you are against this, well, first of all, why are 552 00:30:28,279 --> 00:30:30,599 you against this? But if you are against it, what 553 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:35,160 is the reason why? What do you do and or 554 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,240 what do you believe is going to be the fruits 555 00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:42,400 of the of your labors as a taxpayer, as an 556 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,119 individual that is funding the government. Why are you okay 557 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,160 with the waste? Why are you okay with the fraud? 558 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,480 Why are you okay with the National Park Service? Spending 559 00:30:54,519 --> 00:31:01,160 eight hundred million dollars on a survey eight hundred million dollars. 560 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,799 Speaker 6: What do you believe that you are getting? What is 561 00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:06,240 the ROI? 562 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,839 Speaker 3: The return on investment on an eight hundred million dollar 563 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,200 survey ten question survey from the Forest Service or from 564 00:31:14,279 --> 00:31:18,799 the National Park Service. I don't care what the ROI is. 565 00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:23,000 It's not worth eight hundred plus million dollars. This is 566 00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:25,920 a survey that could have been conducted literally for free, 567 00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:29,400 using tools readily available, or if not, maybe a couple hundred, 568 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,039 couple thousand dollars at the absolute most. 569 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,279 Speaker 6: But no federal government's involved. 570 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,799 Speaker 3: All these bids and contracts and everybody enriching themselves, everybody 571 00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:44,599 lining their pockets with cash from US taxpayers. 572 00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:47,559 Speaker 6: Now sounds like that survey, Yeah. 573 00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 3: Needs a cost in the ballpark of, you know, eight 574 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,440 hundred million dollars or so, just to drop in the bucket. 575 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,079 It's like you dropping a quarter on the side of 576 00:31:54,119 --> 00:31:56,359 the street. It's what it's like for the federal government, 577 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,799 eight hundred million dollars on a survey. It's absolutely remarkable. 578 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,279 Speaker 2: All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you 579 00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:07,319 so much for listening. I could not do the show 580 00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:09,880 without your support and the support of the businesses that 581 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,000 advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support 582 00:32:13,079 --> 00:32:14,720 them too and tell them you heard it here. You 583 00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:17,400 can also become a patron at my Patreon page or 584 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,119 go to dpetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much 585 00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:27,559 for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.