WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:04.080 You were listening to a pleasure podcast. For more from 2 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:25.480 our sex podcast collective, visit pleasure Podcasts dot com. 3 00:00:14.560 --> 00:00:28.879 Hello everybody, Welcome back to Holly Randall Unfiltered. Before I 4 00:00:28.920 --> 00:00:31.399 introduce my guest, I just want to remind you guys 5 00:00:31.440 --> 00:00:35.359 about x week, the world's first immersive creator platform. I'm 6 00:00:35.479 --> 00:00:37.880 very excited what we are going to be bringing to you. 7 00:00:37.960 --> 00:00:38.280 Guys. 8 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:41.439 Make sure that you go to xwee dot io and 9 00:00:41.479 --> 00:00:44.960 sign up for the wait list, because you do not 10 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:48.119 want to miss it when we finally open the floodgates 11 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:53.039 and let everybody in. All right, my guest today has 12 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:57.119 been in the industry for just over a year now, 13 00:00:57.520 --> 00:00:59.880 but she started with a bang and has not slowed down. 14 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:03.119 She was nominated for Best New starlett at this year's 15 00:01:03.159 --> 00:01:05.799 ABNS and has such a bright future ahead of her. 16 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:07.680 Welcome Sinatra Monroe. 17 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:10.120 Hello, Thank you guys for having me. 18 00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:14.799 Yes, no, thank you. I'm so happy to have you here. So, Sinatra, 19 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:18.920 let's start from the beginning, as we always do. How 20 00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:21.840 did you get into the adult industry. Well, I was 21 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:24.799 a dancer for quite some time. I started dancing when 22 00:01:24.799 --> 00:01:27.719 I was twenty one years old. I started in Tampa, Florida. 23 00:01:28.439 --> 00:01:30.560 I danced there for about a half. 24 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:32.319 A year, and I had a girlfriend come to me 25 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:34.840 and she was like, hey, I would really highly recommend 26 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:38.159 checking out Vegas. You know, it's a lot of money there. 27 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:40.480 So I went to Vegas. I was like, Oh, this 28 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:40.879 is what. 29 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:44.840 Real money is. Dancing from dancing. 30 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:47.879 After that, I danced up until I twenty twenty, kind 31 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:51.040 of when COVID hit and obviously the clubs were not open. 32 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:55.400 So even right before I got into the adult industry 33 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:58.480 of that, I actually went into medical marijuana sales. I 34 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:01.400 try that for a little while in Oklahoma of all places. 35 00:02:02.799 --> 00:02:05.879 And were you like working the counter or like, how 36 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:06.120 were you? 37 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:07.959 I was a sales reps, so I would go to 38 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:10.479 I worked for a distribution company, Oh ok and I 39 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:12.639 would go into the dispensaries and sell our products. 40 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:13.280 Gotcha? Gotcha? 41 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:15.439 And I've always been a natural born hustler, so I 42 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:17.479 was like, what kind of side money could I be making? 43 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:19.919 And Only Fans was very getting. 44 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:23.680 Very popular at the time, so I delve into OnlyFans 45 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:26.680 and I did Only Fans for about two years. 46 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:28.719 What was of the first content that you did for 47 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:31.960 only fans? Like did you start off slow and then 48 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:36.719 kind of progress. No, it was always like read in, Yeah, 49 00:02:36.759 --> 00:02:37.360 I was ready. 50 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:39.400 You know, I've always been like a very sexual person, 51 00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:42.080 like down to my core. So to me, I didn't 52 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:44.879 think about like, you know, doing bikini picks and then 53 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:47.000 this and then that. I kind of was just like, 54 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:49.560 you know, obviously I wanted to be paid for all 55 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:52.400 the extra stuff, but I've always done the extra stuff 56 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:55.039 from the beginning, I would say, I guess starting with 57 00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:58.360 solo for sure, and then it progressed into doing some 58 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:00.840 boy girl collapse, and then I was like, oh, I 59 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:04.039 really like this. You know, I was having just you know, 60 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:06.800 someone helped film on an iPhone with you know, a 61 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:08.919 guy that was also doing only Fans. I was like, 62 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:10.240 I feel like I could do this on a more 63 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:14.199 professional level. I have an acting background. I did musical 64 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:16.599 theater for middle school and high school, and I was like, 65 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:19.560 I could do some acting, So I started looking into it. 66 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:23.599 I have a girlfriend that lives in Tampa, Florida. She's 67 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:27.280 really big on OnlyFans, never done a foreign scene before, 68 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:29.120 but she was like we were talking about it. I 69 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:30.919 was like, oh, I'm so interested in She's like, well, 70 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:33.080 I'm good friends with Kieren Lee, like do you want 71 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:36.000 to speak with him? Maybe he could like heck, yeah, yeah, 72 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:37.080 I'm surprisingly at the time. 73 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:41.039 The gateway drug is Kieren Lee. Yes. 74 00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:44.439 Really he really set me up for success. And I'm 75 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:46.439 going to talk about Kieran here for a second. He's 76 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:48.800 such a nice person, even when you know, after you 77 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:51.240 got me my first scene, even before actually I went 78 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:52.680 out there, I was like, you know, while I'm in 79 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:54.960 LA and I think it was like my second time ever. 80 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:56.680 First time I went to LA, it was just like 81 00:03:56.800 --> 00:03:59.719 for fun. This time I was going for business. I 82 00:03:59.800 --> 00:04:01.759 was like, who do you recommend for an agent? Because 83 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:03.919 I want to have those meetings while I'm out there. 84 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:05.879 After you know, I shoot my first scene, He's like 85 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:09.000 Speeler all the way, That's who I would recommend. And 86 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:12.000 you know, I did my own research as well, and yeah. 87 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:14.680 I was smart that you did. Yes, not everybody does that. 88 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:19.040 It's very important. Yeah, so tell me about Okay, so 89 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:22.279 you came out the second time, and that was to 90 00:04:22.319 --> 00:04:23.399 shoot with Kieren. 91 00:04:23.839 --> 00:04:27.639 To shoot for brawsers. Kieran was directing, Okay, gotcha, gotcha? Okay, 92 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:29.720 So to shoot for Kieren in a different way. 93 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:33.720 Yes, the scene was with Elizabeth Schuyler and Menuel Ferrara. 94 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:37.000 Oh, I know you went right to the top. I know, 95 00:04:37.399 --> 00:04:38.360 I'm so lucky. 96 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:40.680 How did that go? It was amazing. 97 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:44.079 Menuel, as everybody knows, is just such a sensual and 98 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:48.319 like sweet person. So the scene just went magnificently. And 99 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:51.399 I was obviously I had the nerves, you know, arriving. 100 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:53.399 I showed up an hour early because I was so 101 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:56.759 nervous about being late, you know, so, and that's just 102 00:04:56.800 --> 00:04:58.360 who I am as a person. I never want to 103 00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:01.040 be late. And then I got there and Peggy was 104 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:02.199 a makeup artist, as. 105 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:03.319 You know, amazing. 106 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:06.439 Yeah, I love Peggy, so she made me feel super comfortable. 107 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:09.480 I had reached out to Elizabeth Schuyler probably like a 108 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:11.240 week before, and I was like, hey, this is, you know, 109 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:14.199 my first scene. You know, I'm excited, and she was 110 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:16.279 super kind to me and kind of walked me through. 111 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:18.319 She's like, oh, you're going to kill it. So it 112 00:05:18.399 --> 00:05:21.199 was just all really great vibes, you know, my first time. 113 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:25.160 And I left set feeling great, Yeah, well awesome. I 114 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:26.720 felt it was a great scene. I was like, I 115 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:27.680 can't wait to do this again. 116 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:30.959 I'm excited. You really had a great first experience. 117 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:33.920 Seriously, could not be more blessed. Yeah, I think about 118 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:34.680 that all the time. 119 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:37.560 I wish all girls had that because so many people, 120 00:05:37.600 --> 00:05:39.360 I feel like, start off on the wrong foot with 121 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:43.439 the wrong agent, with the wrong scene and the wrong people, 122 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:46.680 and then they taste and then they think that the 123 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:50.519 whole industries like that. Yeah, and then they you know, 124 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:54.920 and that fulfills that narrative that the most people have 125 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:58.800 of the adult industry that's all seedy, you know, horrible people, 126 00:05:58.839 --> 00:06:01.439 and it's like it's not just got a bad apple. 127 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:02.959 Yeah, unfortunately. 128 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:05.199 Yeah, And if I would give, you know, girls advice 129 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:07.240 to you that want to get into the industry, I 130 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:10.439 feel that I got a chance at that scene because 131 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:13.040 I had a social media following kind of going into it, 132 00:06:13.399 --> 00:06:15.480 And I feel like you have, you have more eyes 133 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:17.680 on you obviously, and more of a chance. So if 134 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:20.360 you can really build your socials before jumping in, I 135 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:22.759 think that's always a good idea. They're good in general. 136 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:24.439 When did you build your socials? 137 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:27.639 You know, when I first ever started getting into OnlyFans, 138 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:29.480 I spoke with a girl who used to do poorn. 139 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:31.639 Her name is John and Nicole, and she taught me 140 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:34.560 a lot about that world. I mean, she's still got 141 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:37.639 like eight million followers to this day, and she was 142 00:06:37.680 --> 00:06:39.160 in porn for about two years. 143 00:06:39.480 --> 00:06:43.120 Yeah, no, I shot her. Oh I'm pretty sure. Yeah, yeah, 144 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:45.600 I'm pretty sure I've shot her. Yeah, she was an angel. 145 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:47.439 She was kind of lived in my area, and she 146 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:50.279 taught me a lot, her and her partner, you know, 147 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:53.199 at the time, we're still doing the of thing. And yeah, 148 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:55.519 and she really taught me so much about social media. 149 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:58.160 I mean I was barely at gosh, maybe five thousand, 150 00:06:58.199 --> 00:06:59.879 and this is a girl that with eight million that 151 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:01.199 kind of showing me the ropes. 152 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:03.920 I mean it's a huge deal. Wow. Yeah, that's not 153 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:05.079 really kind of her. I know. 154 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:08.199 That's also what I really like about, like the sexport community. 155 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:12.560 I feel that women, especially are nothing is ever the 156 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:16.680 same across the board, sure, but I think that women 157 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:19.000 tend to support other women a lot because like they 158 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:21.720 want you to have a good experience, you know, especially 159 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:24.720 if if you've had a bad experience, or you know 160 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:26.959 people who have had bad you know, I've heard all 161 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:29.560 the horror stories. Soever I ever meet like a new girl, 162 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:32.040 I always want to like he give them advice and 163 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:33.639 do this, don't do that. 164 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:36.279 Same it's given back you know, giving back to people 165 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:38.519 and just given the advice that you can ye because 166 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:41.279 we've all made mistakes too people to not take those 167 00:07:41.319 --> 00:07:42.000 same mistakes. 168 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:45.480 Yeah, so your braws are seen. What was the thing 169 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:47.519 that surprised you the most about that day? 170 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:53.319 I would say, just how more relaxed and calm how 171 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:56.720 I felt, and more how easy it came to me 172 00:07:56.839 --> 00:07:57.279 as well. 173 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:00.360 It was just a really great day. Like I sat 174 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:01.000 in the makeup chair. 175 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:03.480 Obviously I was still nervous, but like I was just 176 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:06.800 the environment was so comfortable, the people were so kind. 177 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:09.720 It's not what you would read about, like you know, 178 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:12.199 as porn would be back in the day, Like you 179 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:14.560 have a weird assumption that you know, there might be 180 00:08:14.720 --> 00:08:17.240 drugs on set or alcohol on set, and it is 181 00:08:17.319 --> 00:08:20.120 just totally the opposite. It is a business. We are 182 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:22.560 here to do a job and that's what we're here for. 183 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:24.560 It's great to be kind to each other, but at 184 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:26.279 the end of the day, like we're here to get 185 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:28.879 a job done. So the professionalism I would say to. 186 00:08:28.839 --> 00:08:31.959 Sum that up, Yeah, it's and that is something that 187 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:37.159 I think has really like changed over the years. I 188 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:41.320 Mean we've always worked on really like I grew up working. 189 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:44.039 We've always been very professional on our sets. That's just 190 00:08:44.039 --> 00:08:47.399 look way I've always been. But across the board, like 191 00:08:47.440 --> 00:08:49.720 that has become kind of the norm, you know. I 192 00:08:49.720 --> 00:08:53.320 think also it's like porn has kind of become more corporate. Yeah, 193 00:08:53.320 --> 00:08:55.759 we've had to you know, yeah, no choice. 194 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:58.840 Yeah, but that's good, you know, for everybody, I think 195 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:00.279 in the long run for sure. 196 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:05.679 Yeah. Absolutely, So what was your next move after that scene? 197 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:09.600 So after that scene, I had a meeting with Mark 198 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:14.200 Spiegler and George and I wanted to see, you know what, 199 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:16.159 if they wanted to take me on. I just went 200 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:19.360 and kind of open and they were, you know how 201 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:22.159 Mark is. He's very straight into the point, a little 202 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:25.159 nerve wracking to speak too, so I was definitely, you know, 203 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:27.919 a little nervous. I sat down and they were like, oh, so, 204 00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:29.320 what do you know about us? I was like, I know, 205 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:31.639 you guys are the best in the business, and I 206 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:32.639 want to be with the best. 207 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:35.679 So I know that you want us to be on time. 208 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:37.720 If you're on time, you're late, be ten minutes early, 209 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:42.720 you know, be willing show up and do a great 210 00:09:42.759 --> 00:09:44.720 job and have a smile on your face. And I 211 00:09:44.759 --> 00:09:47.039 am all of those things naturally, so I felt that 212 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:50.799 I would be a good fit. I'm very reliable, very dependable, 213 00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:53.960 which is really important in this industry. If you don't 214 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:56.519 have that, it really it really hurts your reputation. 215 00:09:56.919 --> 00:09:58.600 So that's you know important. 216 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:01.840 But yeah, sat down with them and I let them know, Hey, 217 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:03.720 just so you guys know, because I spoke with Mark 218 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:06.039 on the phone obviously before going to LA and having 219 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:07.960 that meeting set up, and he was like, well, you 220 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:10.480 really need to live out here, and I was like, Mark, 221 00:10:10.559 --> 00:10:12.080 I'm just going to be honest. You know, if that's 222 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:14.919 a deal breaker, it's probably not going to work, you know, 223 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:17.519 for me, because I'm you know, my family's in Tampa. 224 00:10:17.799 --> 00:10:19.960 I have no problem coming out to LA you know, 225 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:22.480 seven to ten days a month, it's not an issue. 226 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:24.960 But my home is Tampa and that's where I want 227 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:26.240 to be. And they were like, well, it's not a 228 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:28.360 deal breaker. I was like, okay, great, which I know 229 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:30.360 is much different than it was in the past. So 230 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:33.600 also very fortunate, you know, to have that opportunity to 231 00:10:34.639 --> 00:10:35.039 So I. 232 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:36.720 Sat with them and it went really well. 233 00:10:36.840 --> 00:10:39.879 You know, I showed up ten minutes early, and that's 234 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:42.320 the kind of test for Mark right for you to 235 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:45.960 follow the instructions. Come to the gate, be there about 236 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:48.600 you know, ten minutes early. Can she follow direction? 237 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:51.039 You know what I mean? Ye show up, you know, 238 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:52.200 a treasure hunt. 239 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:55.720 Yeah, but I can't imagine how many girls get weeded 240 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:58.120 out just from those simple couple little things. 241 00:10:58.159 --> 00:10:59.080 Yeah, I get it. 242 00:10:59.320 --> 00:11:02.519 So it went really well, and George was more optimistic 243 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:04.720 about me, I think, than Mark at first, because you know, 244 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:07.279 Mark's a little you know, pessimist a bit, and he 245 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:10.279 has to see you, you know, do some scenes and 246 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:13.480 see how you are. I actually was on their team 247 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:15.840 for about I don't know, seven months before I got 248 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:18.720 put on the website. So it was a little frustrating, 249 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:20.919 but I was like, you know what, I'm gaining my stripes, 250 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:23.399 like it all get up there eventually. 251 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:26.480 And that website, oh my god. 252 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:32.240 Like, so Mark, when are you going to redesign your website? 253 00:11:32.440 --> 00:11:33.440 He's like, I don't care. 254 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:37.919 My friends please. I feel like at this point, like 255 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:40.159 he just doesn't want to do it. It's almost like 256 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:44.120 a badge of honor that he could have this outdated 257 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:46.799 website that looks like it was made in like nineteen 258 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:50.000 ninety two and still be like the top agent in 259 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:53.159 the business, Like that's just like that is like Mark Spiegler, but. 260 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:54.600 Like it is pretty funny. 261 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:56.919 And when I go to that site, I'm like, this thing, 262 00:11:57.039 --> 00:11:58.720 this site is terrible. 263 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:04.799 Yes, like whatever gets a job done. Yeah, I mean 264 00:12:04.840 --> 00:12:08.320 he's not wrong, yeap. Yeah. 265 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:13.879 So when you started working with Mark you started shooting 266 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:18.559 more scenes. What were like some of your favorite scenes 267 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:22.279 that you've done since you started working in the industry. 268 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:24.159 Like if someone's watching this podcast right now and they're like, 269 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:26.759 oh my god, this girl is so hot, I want 270 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:28.639 to check her out, Like where should they go? 271 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:32.200 Yeah, So my favorite scene to date was called doubling 272 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:35.200 up on the Studying Slot and it was a boy 273 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:41.720 boy girl with Van Wilder and I forget the other 274 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:44.720 gentleman's name, it'll come to me, but a really great scene. 275 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:48.080 It was with browsers. I got like a new fetish 276 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:48.480 that day. 277 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:51.799 We had a part where they had to like put 278 00:12:51.840 --> 00:12:54.799 their cocks in my armpits, oh and jerk it off 279 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:57.720 into my armpits and come. It was really cool, Like 280 00:12:57.759 --> 00:13:00.159 I've never experienced that feeling in my armpits before, and 281 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:01.840 I really liked it. I was like, this is kind 282 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:03.720 of hot, Like I don't know why, but I like it. 283 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:06.120 Do you know there is like a whole armpit fetish. Yeah, 284 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:09.639 because there's like like more nerve endings in your arm pits, 285 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:12.039 I believe. I don't know the scientific terms behind it, 286 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:14.440 but there's definitely a thing for sure. 287 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:17.799 And there's guys that are into like licking armpits, like 288 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:21.639 so Andrew Blake, who was like a really popular director 289 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:23.600 back kind of when I was first starting, he had 290 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:24.960 a big armpit fetish. 291 00:13:25.080 --> 00:13:27.080 Yeah. Yeah, I really really enjoyed it. 292 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:29.080 And of course just being you know, a princess that 293 00:13:29.159 --> 00:13:32.200 day and being tossed around it was super fun too. 294 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:34.919 And I got to wear a really cute outfit skirt 295 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:37.720 like a pink top and like some crazy fun glasses 296 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:40.559 and I'm when I'm posing, like one of my staples 297 00:13:40.600 --> 00:13:42.600 is my smile, So I got to really like show 298 00:13:42.639 --> 00:13:44.039 that off too, which is great. 299 00:13:44.600 --> 00:13:46.799 And it was just an overall like a fun scene. 300 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:48.679 What are your favorite kinds of scenes to shoot? 301 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:51.679 Well, you know, I haven't done everything so far, but 302 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:54.759 I would say, gonzo, I think you know, I do 303 00:13:54.919 --> 00:13:55.840 enjoy the acting piece. 304 00:13:55.879 --> 00:13:57.879 So I'm going to say you have a background, yes, 305 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:00.960 in acting, So I'm kind of surprised that it's not fatures. 306 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:03.600 Yeah, I do really really enjoy them. 307 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:06.639 I was actually blessed to have a lead role with 308 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:10.840 Digital Playground. We did a movie for that and it 309 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:13.159 was it was a comedy and it was really really cool. 310 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:16.639 They are long days though they are. No, that is 311 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:18.720 definitely the downside. 312 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:23.679 Yes, very spectacular when they come out, amazing to watch. 313 00:14:23.759 --> 00:14:26.679 It is a true piece of art and a movie. 314 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:29.240 But yeah, you just don't realize, you know, when you 315 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:31.080 first get into it, you're like, Okay, I've taken this 316 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:33.440 scene one time, you know, and they're like, oh no, 317 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:35.840 we have to get that exact thing five more times 318 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:39.440 because you have close ups, you know, you have wides 319 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:40.759 and then you have to get a close up of 320 00:14:40.759 --> 00:14:44.399 each person individually speaking. So that scene, that one, you know, 321 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:46.919 thing is going to take a couple hours. 322 00:14:47.039 --> 00:14:50.480 Some people overshoot, I will say that to get make 323 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:51.399 sure they get everything. 324 00:14:51.559 --> 00:14:54.279 Yeah, some people ever shoot. I've seen I've experienced that 325 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:55.519 it depends on the director. 326 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:58.759 Like if the director is also the editor, usually they're 327 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:00.919 better about it because they know what they need and 328 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:01.480 what they get. 329 00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:04.519 But some people definitely overshoot. 330 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:08.480 And I've learned, you know, I've done three features, so 331 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:10.480 I know I'm going to have some downtime, and to 332 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:13.320 keep myself from kind of getting frustrated, I just always 333 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:15.480 have something I could be working on, you know, like 334 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:17.840 just paperwork or stuff that I could be doing for 335 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:20.279 my business, So I'm just I'm focused on that, and 336 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:22.440 then when they need me, I'm there or taking social 337 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:25.000 media stuff rather than just like sitting on my phone 338 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:27.679 and scrolling and getting aggravated, because like getting aggravates is 339 00:15:27.720 --> 00:15:29.240 not going to do anything. You know, we got to 340 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:31.480 get the job done. So that helps a lot. 341 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:34.759 No, I feel you those you know, I stopped directing 342 00:15:34.840 --> 00:15:38.000 like god like two years ago, and those long feature days, 343 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:41.080 I do not miss them, Yeah, because they were I 344 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:44.559 think my longest day was like eighteen hours. And it's 345 00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:46.360 not even just like the long days for me, Like 346 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:48.639 I could feel like the long days for the crew 347 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:49.440 and like the talent. 348 00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:51.320 It's a lot. 349 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:54.559 I could feel like everyone being like dude, Winter, it's 350 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:55.240 like three am, like. 351 00:15:55.200 --> 00:15:55.799 When are we going on? 352 00:15:55.960 --> 00:15:56.159 Yeah? 353 00:15:56.200 --> 00:15:56.919 Like this is insane? 354 00:15:57.000 --> 00:15:59.960 Yeah, you know, and it's like everyone gets paid the same, 355 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:02.559 how long the day yep. 356 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:04.559 So you have to have that true love for for 357 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:13.320 acting in there yeah, yeah. 358 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:12.600 Yeah, so I feel on that, but when it comes out, 359 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:15.399 you're always like, oh, I'm so glad I did this, Yes, 360 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:17.639 but in the moment sometimes it's hard to appreciate it. 361 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:21.919 It's very true. Yes, yeah, yeah, absolutely, I feel you 362 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:22.679 on that so much. 363 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:27.000 What about like kinds of scenes like solo girl girl, 364 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:29.600 boy girl threesomes, like, what about in that range? 365 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:34.000 I would say definitely boy girl girl because I'm I'm bisexual, 366 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:36.440 like to my core, so if I can have a 367 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:38.639 female and a male at the same time, that's like 368 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:39.679 amazing for me. 369 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:42.279 So yeah, I would definitely say those are my favorite 370 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:43.639 because I get the best of both worlds. 371 00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:46.679 Speaking of the best of both worlds, Yes, we were 372 00:16:46.679 --> 00:16:50.200 talking earlier how you mentioned that you were really interested 373 00:16:50.279 --> 00:16:53.279 in doing trans scenes and you'd posted something about that 374 00:16:53.320 --> 00:16:55.399 on social media and you got like a lot of backlash, 375 00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:56.240 which surprised you. 376 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:57.759 Yeah, it really did, you know. 377 00:16:57.799 --> 00:17:00.399 I was actually speaking about it, you know, on another pot, 378 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:03.759 and I was very intrigued to find like just a 379 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:06.759 lot of like hate comments towards it, and it kind 380 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:10.519 of opened my eyes to how harsh you know, the 381 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:14.519 community is on just trans in general, which is very surprising. 382 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:16.319 It's like not like they're an alien, like they're a 383 00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:19.039 human being. They just they don't feel like they were 384 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:22.319 born in the proper body. So I found that very 385 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:23.160 very intriguing. 386 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:23.759 I don't care. 387 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:25.680 I'm still going to do it because it's something I 388 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:27.319 want to do, you know what I mean. 389 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:28.680 I love watching transport. 390 00:17:28.720 --> 00:17:31.640 I think it's pot it's great because for me, again, 391 00:17:31.720 --> 00:17:34.160 best of both worlds. It's like a female with a 392 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:37.720 cock like yeah, or you know, vice versa. 393 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:40.319 And some of like the trans performers are just like so. 394 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:44.160 Beautiful, like Ariel Demir, like one transperformer of the year, 395 00:17:46.200 --> 00:17:49.279 just gorgeous, sunny, I know, and so sweet too, yeah, 396 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:50.519 you know, down to their core. 397 00:17:50.759 --> 00:17:53.000 But yeah, I found it, found it very interesting. 398 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:55.039 And again it just opened up to my eyes to 399 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:56.799 how much backlash I'm sure they get because I can 400 00:17:56.880 --> 00:18:01.039 only imagine being a transperformer and just you know, having 401 00:18:01.119 --> 00:18:01.920