WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.439 On a Friday time now for our Friday staple. Porter. 2 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:03.960 I don't even need to ask you whether or not 3 00:00:04.040 --> 00:00:07.519 that was your choice or CK's choice. That was clearly Chris, 4 00:00:07.559 --> 00:00:10.519 that's our guy, Christopher Camaradie. Happy Friday, sir, How are 5 00:00:10.560 --> 00:00:12.480 you great? 6 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:15.240 Great job picking the musical theme of the day. I 7 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:18.440 must say it was probably the most difficult decision I've 8 00:00:18.440 --> 00:00:19.879 had to make in a very long time. 9 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:22.760 Okay, well, then if I can confuse you, Christopher, I 10 00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:23.359 know that I've. 11 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:24.800 Done my job. Happy Friday, buddy. 12 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:27.640 How are you doing doing well? Man? How are you? 13 00:00:28.160 --> 00:00:30.280 I'm good, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm glad. 14 00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:30.920 It's Friday. 15 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:35.359 It's been a busy week, but time for the weekend, obviously. 16 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:37.479 What is the I don't know that I've ever even 17 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:37.920 asked you this. 18 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:40.759 What's your level of interest in pro football? 19 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:43.560 NFL football? Will you be dialed in on Sunday? 20 00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:49.320 I will be dialed in tangentially, meaning like I will 21 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:55.280 be playing with toys and cooking dinner and paying attention 22 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:58.880 every once in a while. The brilliance of YouTube TV 23 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:01.399 and I don't know if you're subscribers fence, but you 24 00:01:01.439 --> 00:01:05.319 can put it on basically any black mirror that you have, 25 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:09.120 so it doesn't need to occupy your television. It could 26 00:01:09.159 --> 00:01:13.680 occupy your phone or your laptop, which often it does 27 00:01:13.719 --> 00:01:18.040 while I'm you know, researching ways to cook meals. So 28 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:21.400 long winded way of saying, I'll be paying attention. But 29 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:25.640 it's a lot of football, man, so I don't know 30 00:01:25.680 --> 00:01:27.439 how much. How I wouldn't say I'll be. 31 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:30.719 Locked in fair enough, fair enough because you don't do much. 32 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:33.079 Have you ever covered the NFL? I mean mostly you're 33 00:01:33.159 --> 00:01:36.120 kind of a college football guy based off of your writing, Yes. 34 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:39.959 Yeah, never covered the NFL. Most of my I mean, 35 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:43.280 my entire professional career has been here, and I don't 36 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:46.799 think we'll ever have an NFL team here. So the 37 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:51.439 only time I've set foot in a NFL press box 38 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:56.480 was covering Utah's lost to Oregon in the twenty nineteen 39 00:01:56.519 --> 00:01:59.519 packs full title game, because that was at Levi's, and 40 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:05.239 of course covering RSL Sounders matches at the clink. 41 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:10.919 Indeed, indeed, you know, ultimately, the closest thing I think 42 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:14.599 we'll get to an NFL team in our market is 43 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:20.520 if Utah and BYU are in the right group on 44 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:23.000 the right side of the line of delineation. When college 45 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:25.599 football moves into this potential pro model. That's probably the 46 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:28.520 closest thing. Yate to never say never, but as far 47 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:32.080 as something that might be on the horizon, because this 48 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:34.960 new model Chris as everybody has written about and talked about, 49 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:37.159 and who knows when it's going to happen, it does 50 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:39.360 feel like it is inevitable. And one thing that it 51 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:42.879 will do, for better or for worse, is, you know, 52 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:45.520 pit the best teams in college football against each other, 53 00:02:45.639 --> 00:02:47.639 against each other week in and week out. I mean, 54 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:51.560 that television deal is going to be crazy, and that's 55 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:53.879 why a lot of private equity guys are interested in 56 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:56.520 buying sex and college football teams. That's probably the closest 57 00:02:56.520 --> 00:02:58.240 thing we'll ever have to pro football. 58 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:02.319 Here we call a transition for the kids listening at home, 59 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:08.319 because our guy just took CK's RSL sounders in the 60 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:13.199 press box and wove it into a will Utah and 61 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:16.960 or BYU be left in the cold. Great, great, stunning stuff. 62 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:20.120 Thank you, sir. I appreciate that I. 63 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:24.199 Agree with you, but I'm going to be a little 64 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:27.360 bit of a I don't want to say naive. I 65 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:30.879 don't want to be naive here, But like, I don't 66 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:33.280 even know what the plan is. I don't even know 67 00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:36.280 if there's a plan, Like I think there is a 68 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:40.159 concept of a plan, as a guy once said recently, 69 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:45.240 But like otherwise, there's just lots of theories that are 70 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:48.439 floating around and being reported, but nothing close to concrete. 71 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:53.719 So while the likelihood of this so called super conference 72 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:57.560 could potentially come to fruition, I don't know when we'll 73 00:03:57.560 --> 00:03:59.759 get there, if we'll get there, what the what the 74 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:03.879 rights would look like, who gets involved, who doesn't. All 75 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:05.599 I know is that the sharks at the top are 76 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:08.159 going to keep feeding, and you know, as they should, 77 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:10.919 because they're benefiting from being able to eat the most. 78 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:13.919 Speaking of a concept of a plan, the Department of 79 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:18.680 Education came out this week with some Title nine guidance 80 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:22.199 as it applies to the payments to athletes. Now the 81 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:27.079 Trump administration. His nominated takeover is Vince McMahon's a strange wife. 82 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:29.600 I don't know much about her, but you know, nothing's real, 83 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:32.600 and so what I've been reading is they could roll 84 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:35.240 it back, but you know, we are moving into this 85 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:37.759 reality coming up. I think it's June or July twenty 86 00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:40.920 point five, million in direct payments to athletes via NIL 87 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:45.240 deals per school and according to the Department of Education. 88 00:04:45.319 --> 00:04:47.439 And the reason why this is important is the important 89 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:51.439 is they are in charge of making sure that schools 90 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:55.279 are staying compliant with Title nine guidelines. They're in charge 91 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:57.959 of making sure these things are above board, or they're 92 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:00.519 the ones that will come after you. You know, the 93 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:04.199 easiest way to explain this is if fifty percent of 94 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:06.480 the athletes at your school are male and fifty percent 95 00:05:06.519 --> 00:05:08.560 are female, then fifty percent of the revenue has to 96 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:10.959 go to males and fifty percent has to go to females. 97 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:14.160 And we've heard several athletic directors publicly say we're going 98 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:17.319 to allocate about eighty seventy five eighty percent of that 99 00:05:17.399 --> 00:05:20.240 twenty point five mal the football players, and according to this, 100 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:22.839 they would be in violation of Title nine. What are 101 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:24.399 your thoughts on this? Do you think it stands or 102 00:05:24.439 --> 00:05:25.720 do you think it's going to be rolled back? When 103 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:29.120 Vince McMahon's a strange wife runs the US Department of Education, 104 00:05:29.199 --> 00:05:31.079 the sentence I never thought I'd be able to say. 105 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:33.279 So, are we going to tap into the vein of 106 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:36.120 I enjoy ninety percent of the content. The show gets 107 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:37.759 too woke for me about one fourth of the time. 108 00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:39.759 Are we going to are we ready to tap into 109 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:40.319 the one fourth? 110 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:42.720 Yeah, we haven't been woke very much as of late, ck, 111 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:44.079 so bring the wokeness. 112 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:49.399 Well. As you were presenting me with that question, I 113 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:52.319 got on the laptop, and of course, Linda McMahon is 114 00:05:52.680 --> 00:05:56.319 former wife of Vince McMahon, who I think Lindo had 115 00:05:56.360 --> 00:05:59.000 a huge part in the success of the WWF now 116 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:01.839 the WWEH. It's a chair of the board of the 117 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:05.120 America First Policy Institute, and I'm gonna read you their 118 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:09.120 their mission statement. The America First Policy Institute is a 119 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:11.920 five O one C three blah blah blah. It exists 120 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:15.439 to advance policies that put the American people first. Our 121 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:21.720 guiding principles are liberty, free enterprise, national greatness, American military support, 122 00:06:22.319 --> 00:06:25.800 foreign policy, engagement in the American interests, and the primary 123 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:29.360 primacy of American workers, families, and communities. And all we 124 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:33.920 do so the mission statement is clearly about equity amongst 125 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:38.800 you know, college athletes in this new fangled world. To 126 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:42.879 get back to your question again, how how is this 127 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:45.160 going to be deployed? How is it going to be 128 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:49.120 you know, who's going to police this thing? What is 129 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:51.399 the policy officially going to look like? I think it 130 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:54.600 makes sense. I know there's going to be pushed back 131 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:58.360 about like should the school should the programs that bring 132 00:06:58.399 --> 00:07:01.600 in the most money to be able to have the 133 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:07.680 most But listen, man, we can't, as we saw early 134 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:11.360 on in COVID, like we can't utilize the strengths of 135 00:07:11.439 --> 00:07:15.800 a program at a certain school to be able to 136 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:19.720 use that and contextualize getting rid of other sports and 137 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:22.680 potentially getting rid of other athletes, which would be which 138 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:27.519 are often titled nine decisions that obviously come off looking 139 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:32.360 very bad. So again, going back, I'm not pleading the 140 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:34.560 fifth man, but like, all this stuff is just way 141 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:36.000 too smart for me. And you know, I'm not a 142 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:40.279 smart person. Like I can't. I can pontificate on who 143 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:43.319 deserves what and why they deserve it, but I don't matter. 144 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:46.720 I'm just a regular on the drive man, Like it's 145 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:49.600 Friday and I'm just chilling with my guys. So until 146 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:52.199 we get some sort of concrete evidence like what the 147 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:56.240 plan will be and what you know, miss McMahon wants 148 00:07:56.279 --> 00:08:00.600 to do, and really in terms of executing policy, it's 149 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:02.279 all just going to be kind of conjecture. 150 00:08:02.879 --> 00:08:04.560 Well, first of all, I disagree. 151 00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:06.839 You are a smart guy, and you know, we'll do 152 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:09.879 one more somewhat weighty question then we'll move on to 153 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:13.240 Diego Luna's colt status with US many national team fans. 154 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:16.879 But ready, So let let's and I asked Amy this question, 155 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:18.319 and I knew that I was about to get my 156 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:20.319 head taken off, so I asked her and I ducked. 157 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:26.120 But there are most people would say, okay, the sports 158 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:30.199 that generate the most revenue should have the bulk of 159 00:08:30.240 --> 00:08:34.840 the revenue invested into you know, that product, whether it's 160 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:37.960 the athletes, whether it's the coaches, And the fact of 161 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:41.720 the matter is the bulk of the money does go 162 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:44.639 to those programs. The highest paid public employee in most 163 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:46.559 states is either a football coach. 164 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:48.000 In my home state, Connecticut's a. 165 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:53.240 Basketball coach because Ucon's a basketball school. Is there flaw 166 00:08:53.480 --> 00:08:56.480 in that logic when most people look at this and say, okay, 167 00:08:56.519 --> 00:08:59.000 the way the world works is the football team generates 168 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:01.679 the most revenue, so the football team deserves the bulk 169 00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:06.679 of the money to go towards them. 170 00:09:06.759 --> 00:09:11.759 I think there are two trains of thought one. Obviously, Yes, Secondarily, 171 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:15.480 I think you will come to a model. Let's hope 172 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:22.399 that gives these student athletes and these sports that historically 173 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:26.360 have been underfunded and aren't represented well on the you know, 174 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:30.240 fiscal plane. I hope they'll get more than they previously had. 175 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:33.879 I'm just looking at this from a totally logical point 176 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:36.360 of view. I have a really hard time thinking that 177 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:39.279 it will end up being a fifty fifth split, fifty 178 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:43.200 to fifty split. And I'm not saying what's right, wrong, 179 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:46.000 or indifferent, because that's I'm not I'm not judge, jury 180 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:50.399 and executioner, But like, ultimately a lot of these athletes 181 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:56.399 also deserve to be compensated. Who's gonna who is going 182 00:09:56.480 --> 00:09:58.320 to be the judge? Who is going to bang the gabble? 183 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:01.799 Like I do think basketball and football will be king 184 00:10:02.200 --> 00:10:05.080 and at some schools, like you know, women's basketball will 185 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:09.440 have a say, schools like you know, South Carolina, Baylor, Tennessee, 186 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:13.559 so on and so forth. But ultimately, I think that 187 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:16.000 this is the society we live in. I mean, it's 188 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:18.039 it's not too hard to read the tea leaves, man. 189 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:20.639 I think everybody knows which way this will go. My 190 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:26.320 hope is that programs and people that have historically been 191 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:29.080 underfunded are given their piece of pie as well. 192 00:10:29.679 --> 00:10:32.159 So I was having this debate a couple of weeks 193 00:10:32.159 --> 00:10:35.759 ago imced an event up in Park City. Rick new 194 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:38.000 Heisl was on the panel, and we were talking about 195 00:10:38.039 --> 00:10:41.399 the role of simply private equity in sports, you know, 196 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:44.600 venture capitalists. A lot of very rich, powerful people were 197 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:46.320 there that live in a world that I just don't 198 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:47.320 they can't even relate to. 199 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:49.639 And we opened up the debate. 200 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:53.720 As far as the recent trend of women's sports and 201 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:57.840 valuations of NWSL teams and WNBA team sky high and 202 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:03.799 WNBA ratings not just improving like quadrupling, And yes, you 203 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:06.080 do have to draw a line to Kaitlin Clark. Okay, 204 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:07.759 I know we're supposed to say, well, the women that 205 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:10.559 came before and all of that certainly is true, but. 206 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:15.240 You know, golf needed Tiger, soccer needed Messy. 207 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:19.519 It's not uncommon that one figure literally changed the landscape 208 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:22.840 of a sport, and Kaitlin has done that for the WNBA. 209 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:26.120 My question, as we continue to tap into your expertise 210 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:28.919 whether or not you like it, is have we reached 211 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:33.759 a bubble or is this trend of money being invested 212 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:37.720 in women's sports and clear attention being directed towards women's sports. 213 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:39.080 Does it continue to trend up? 214 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:42.720 I think it continues to trend up. I think it's 215 00:11:42.759 --> 00:11:45.000 too early to say whether or not there was a 216 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:47.759 bubble and if it did exist, if it's burst or not. 217 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:50.919 I mean, Kaitlin is going into her second year as 218 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:54.360 a professional athlete in the WNBA, and granted there really 219 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:58.600 isn't anybody who has been able will have been able 220 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:02.240 to captivate a national audience the way Caitlyn did during 221 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:04.639 her time at Iowa. I mean, shoot, dude, she was 222 00:12:04.639 --> 00:12:06.840 in the she was in the box with with Taylor 223 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:10.080 at the Chiefs game. She's she's yeah. I mean, she's 224 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:13.200 the real deal. And I agree with you, it does. 225 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:17.039 It does sound kind of, as my guy would say, reductive, 226 00:12:17.159 --> 00:12:20.679 but like stars matter, and you know, like they will 227 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:24.440 take you places, and Caitlin's definitely in that group, especially 228 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:28.720 if you're talking about a sport that needs more star 229 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:33.159 power and more star representation to be able to reach 230 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:36.679 the fringe folk, the periphery, the folks who aren't even 231 00:12:36.960 --> 00:12:40.759 sports fans, you know, people like my wife who will like, 232 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:43.200 you know, during her time my Iowa, she'd be like, oh, 233 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:46.320 look at this Instagram reel of Kaitlyn Clark, Like that 234 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:49.200 stuff goes a long way. And I think to your point, 235 00:12:49.480 --> 00:12:51.919 the pe guys as you like to call them, like 236 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:56.919 they see that as a massive investment opportunity. I would hope, 237 00:12:57.519 --> 00:13:00.679 and maybe this is a to glass half full. I 238 00:13:00.679 --> 00:13:04.120 would hope that folks don't necessarily feel compelled to have 239 00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:07.279 to wait for the next Caitlin Clark in that sense, 240 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:13.200 because it's hard, man, Like we had Michael, we waited 241 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:16.080 how I mean, I guess that the overlap between Michael 242 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:20.799 and Kobe and MJ wasn't that long, like or Michael, 243 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:25.879 Kobe and Lebron wasn't that long. But like, it's hard, man. 244 00:13:25.960 --> 00:13:29.320 I we get into this comparison game that I feel 245 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:34.039 like is very dangerous and again reductive and really belittles 246 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:37.159 what so many people have to offer. And all you 247 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:39.120 have to do is turn on the TV and pay attention. 248 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:41.840 Like it's not that hard, Like you don't need you 249 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:45.399 don't need to watch you know, Real Housewives of Salt 250 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:48.720 Lake City. It's great, you know, I love it, but 251 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:50.879 you know I can I can tune into other things. 252 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:52.679 There are other there are other sports to watch, them 253 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:53.759 to be invigorated by. 254 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:56.039 If I'm in the mood for a coach shot pep talk, 255 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:57.159 I'm turning it on. 256 00:13:57.279 --> 00:13:59.000 Man, I don't care what you say, I'm turning it on. 257 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:01.879 Is that, well, there's there's been there's been a lack 258 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:03.320 of those in the last couple of years. 259 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:06.159 Well, I only saw I think the first four episodes 260 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:09.399 of season one because my honest, sincere hope and I'm 261 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:10.279 not being facetious. 262 00:14:10.279 --> 00:14:11.799 I'm putting on my serious cap here. 263 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:15.320 I thought, okay, cool, like this show will expose the 264 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:17.519 cool parts of our city and our market to a 265 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:19.559 very large audience. I think they get like ten million 266 00:14:19.639 --> 00:14:22.080 view ten million viewers per episode. 267 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:22.799 That was my hope. 268 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:24.879 And then within a few episodes, I'm like, they're not 269 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:27.480 doing any of that, So I just stopped watching. 270 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:32.039 I guess I would counter and since the sports sports 271 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:35.159 talk radio we can banter like what what would what 272 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:38.519 were you hoping they would be able to showcase to 273 00:14:38.600 --> 00:14:39.519 the outside. 274 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:41.120 World, I don't know, just a shot at trap and 275 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:44.360 Nate benchcrack and a FURDA juniors, you know, just the 276 00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:46.840 real people here, you know, just just to just to 277 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:47.440 keep it real. 278 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:52.240 I mean our guy Trey Camberling, who is back in 279 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:56.240 his home state of Iowa. He he coined a phrase 280 00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:58.440 that I always laugh at and I always repeat to 281 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:01.440 him every single time. He joked about his small Hope 282 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:05.120 hometown in Iowa as the epicenter of culture. And you can, 283 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:07.840 if you're talking about Salt Lake City and the you know, 284 00:15:08.120 --> 00:15:10.919 huge scale of the US and view it through the 285 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:13.320 lens of you know, the real Housewives of Salt Lake City, 286 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:15.720 we can be an epicenter of culture for people. People 287 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:18.519 love it still, man, I'm telling you my sister's in California. 288 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:20.759 If they're obsessed with it, they think it's the best one. 289 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:24.039 So we have something going for us in that sense. 290 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:26.919 But I do agree with you. It is a fairly 291 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:31.720 uh not sanitized version. It's just kind of a it 292 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:34.759 feels like a very Sandy Draper version of of who 293 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:35.120 we are. 294 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:36.159 Are you watching it? 295 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:39.639 Oh yeah, yeah, I mean I'm locked in bro. 296 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:42.840 Is Dave Rose's like brothers still married to that one? 297 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:43.879 Correct? Yeah? 298 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:46.039 Oh yeah? Ok? Yeah, Well shout out to that guy. 299 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:49.200 Seems like that's a tough ask in my opinion, But 300 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:51.440 I'll you know, I'm not judging. Let's let's move away 301 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:54.039 from this quickly. We were talking about this early had 302 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:55.720 I had your guy Andy on. I had a guy 303 00:15:55.759 --> 00:15:59.600 B Larson on and he caught up with Lowry, Mark 304 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:02.559 and In and Colin Sexton and to his credit, asked 305 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:06.519 him point blank like, how is this tanking stuff affecting you? 306 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:08.759 And I think it's a really slippery slope when you 307 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:11.279 have an awesome player in his prime to kind of 308 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:13.879 take this route. Although I understand and agree with what 309 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:18.279 the Jazz are doing, it it sucks, but I mean 310 00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:21.120 this sincerely. Prior to two thousand and four, I probably 311 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:23.720 could have counted on one hand how many soccer matches 312 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:25.799 I watched. Usually it was like a World Cup final 313 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:29.159 or whatever. And whenever any soccer goop would be like 314 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:31.799 we should do promotion relegation in American sports, or of 315 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:33.759 like communists go away in the corner, because I didn't 316 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:36.360 know anything about it. And now you know, twenty one 317 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:39.279 years later, since we rought the club here, and I've 318 00:16:39.440 --> 00:16:41.799 very much come to a space of enjoying the game, 319 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:46.639 respecting the game, understanding the game, and promotion relegation is awesome, 320 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:49.399 like I think it should be in college football. I 321 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:51.799 think it should be in pro basketball. I don't know 322 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:54.240 that the NFL has the infrastructure to do it. Do 323 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:58.320 you think there's any way that any sport over across 324 00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:02.039 the pond here adopts this format promotion relegation. Do you 325 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:04.400 think it's ever gonna gonna happen or even be considered? 326 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:11.960 Never ever, in a billion, trillion, gazillion infinity years. It 327 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:16.119 is not part of our culture. We are a top 328 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:23.000 heavy obsessed with winning at all costs. Culture and context 329 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:27.039 be damned, we are not capable of it. I agree 330 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:32.799 with you wholeheartedly. You see what it means to players 331 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:38.599 and staffers and fans when a team gets relegated, and 332 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:42.799 what happens when a team gets bumped up, and it 333 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:46.119 is the epicenter of bummer and bliss. Man, I'm telling 334 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:50.359 you it is. It is like the ultimate human experience 335 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:52.559 watching in real time. We don't have that here. Like 336 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:57.680 here we have, you know, people arguing about Taylor and 337 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:01.079 Travis kelcey like that's what we are, That's who we are, 338 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:07.000 And it's unfortunate, but it would be cool. It would 339 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:11.759 make the stakes higher and make every single night that 340 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:16.440 much more intense and meaningful and frankly, I mean, I 341 00:18:16.759 --> 00:18:19.559 can only imagine. I'm of the opinion that I think 342 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:23.839 it would help media ratings because I think for a 343 00:18:23.880 --> 00:18:27.839 sport like basketball, people tune out for several months on 344 00:18:28.039 --> 00:18:31.119 end because they know that there are there are teams 345 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:34.960 that are going to be doing load managements, and nobody 346 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:38.039 cares to watch the Raptors play the Kings and Sacramento 347 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:40.880 on a Wednesday night, Whereas like, if there was a 348 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:44.880 bigger picture ramification on the line, you bet your ass 349 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:47.960 people would be into it. So I don't know, that's 350 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:51.279 that's me on my soapbox, but I never think it 351 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:53.079 will happen here, but it would be really cool if 352 00:18:53.079 --> 00:18:53.359 it did. 353 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:57.880 RSL played today, they played a match I didn't really 354 00:18:58.079 --> 00:19:00.960 know that they were even doing that scrimmage preseason match. 355 00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:04.200 Eleven comes out, the starting eleven comes out. I knew 356 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:07.400 like four players. Trey pop Town earlier gave us the 357 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:10.200 rundown of where we're at, and I think they need 358 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:12.599 to sign a striker. They're gonna rely on like five 359 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:16.240 players they brought in, none of which have this really 360 00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:20.519 awesome pedigree. Diego Luna kind of announced his arrival to 361 00:19:20.640 --> 00:19:22.759 the dorks that love the US men's national team. What 362 00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:24.599 do they call that group, the Sam's Army or whatever? 363 00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:28.039 Those goobs. So now he's like this cult hero over there. 364 00:19:28.119 --> 00:19:31.400 So some fun things happening with RSL, but a lot 365 00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:32.359 of unknown c K. 366 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:34.359 What's your expectations for the club this year? 367 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:41.440 Great pull man, great pull on Sam's Army in a 368 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:46.680 weird way, like I think they had a terrible offseason, 369 00:19:46.759 --> 00:19:50.640 but at the same time, like one signing I think 370 00:19:50.720 --> 00:19:54.519 could really change the landscape of how this season specifically goes. 371 00:19:55.359 --> 00:19:58.079 I am not under the assumption that any of these 372 00:19:58.119 --> 00:20:01.039 guys they have at the night position right now will 373 00:20:01.039 --> 00:20:04.720 pan out to be anything remotely productive. I've been proven 374 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:08.759 wrong before. But if you're thinking about the exoskeleton of 375 00:20:09.240 --> 00:20:12.839 what you need to be a good team, RSL, oh 376 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:16.839 they have it. They got to figure out how to 377 00:20:16.920 --> 00:20:20.279 let teams stop scoring three or four times every match 378 00:20:20.359 --> 00:20:22.960 like they did for much of last year. But you 379 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:27.279 have maybe one of the best midfield tandems in a 380 00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:32.119 Mecca and Allen Brian o'hada Diego Luna is obviously continuing 381 00:20:32.319 --> 00:20:35.759 to shoot up. You know, the the rankings of most 382 00:20:35.799 --> 00:20:40.000 talented young players in the league, but you're counting on 383 00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:43.000 guys that came in last year that you know, I 384 00:20:43.039 --> 00:20:46.240 think Dominic mark Suit had a decent run of form, 385 00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:48.359 But like you're counting on guys like him and Diego 386 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:52.680 Diego Gunzalves to come in and be you know, you 387 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:55.839 need them to be at the level of a Diego 388 00:20:55.920 --> 00:20:58.880 Luna for an entire season and if not better, especially 389 00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:02.519 for Gunslves. That's a guy who was one of the 390 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:05.720 best players you know in FC Copenhagen, you know, one 391 00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:08.200 of the one of the top teams in Europe for 392 00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:12.519 a long time. They lose an alpha and Chico Arongo. 393 00:21:12.839 --> 00:21:14.920 They need an alpha in the attack and I just 394 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:19.279 don't know. Obviously Luna has that, as you know, Mauricio 395 00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:21.799 Pacheccino said the other night, Big Balls. He just said 396 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:24.119 it to Denny on the broadcast, straight up big balls 397 00:21:24.200 --> 00:21:28.000 with with the broken nose and playing. So Diego has it. 398 00:21:28.119 --> 00:21:32.079 I just don't know does he. Is he capable of 399 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:36.200 carrying an entire attack on his shoulders for the length 400 00:21:36.200 --> 00:21:38.160 of the season. I don't think so. So you just 401 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:40.640