Speaker 1: On a Friday time now for our Friday staple. Porter.
Speaker 2: I don't even need to ask you whether or not
Speaker 2: that was your choice or CK's choice. That was clearly Chris,
Speaker 2: that's our guy, Christopher Camaradie. Happy Friday, sir, How are
Speaker 2: you great?
Speaker 3: Great job picking the musical theme of the day. I
Speaker 3: must say it was probably the most difficult decision I've
Speaker 3: had to make in a very long time.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, then if I can confuse you, Christopher, I
Speaker 2: know that I've.
Speaker 1: Done my job. Happy Friday, buddy.
Speaker 3: How are you doing doing well? Man? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm glad.
Speaker 1: It's Friday.
Speaker 2: It's been a busy week, but time for the weekend, obviously.
Speaker 1: What is the I don't know that I've ever even
Speaker 1: asked you this.
Speaker 2: What's your level of interest in pro football?
Speaker 1: NFL football? Will you be dialed in on Sunday?
Speaker 3: I will be dialed in tangentially, meaning like I will
Speaker 3: be playing with toys and cooking dinner and paying attention
Speaker 3: every once in a while. The brilliance of YouTube TV
Speaker 3: and I don't know if you're subscribers fence, but you
Speaker 3: can put it on basically any black mirror that you have,
Speaker 3: so it doesn't need to occupy your television. It could
Speaker 3: occupy your phone or your laptop, which often it does
Speaker 3: while I'm you know, researching ways to cook meals. So
Speaker 3: long winded way of saying, I'll be paying attention. But
Speaker 3: it's a lot of football, man, so I don't know
Speaker 3: how much. How I wouldn't say I'll be.
Speaker 2: Locked in fair enough, fair enough because you don't do much.
Speaker 2: Have you ever covered the NFL? I mean mostly you're
Speaker 2: kind of a college football guy based off of your writing, Yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, never covered the NFL. Most of my I mean,
Speaker 3: my entire professional career has been here, and I don't
Speaker 3: think we'll ever have an NFL team here. So the
Speaker 3: only time I've set foot in a NFL press box
Speaker 3: was covering Utah's lost to Oregon in the twenty nineteen
Speaker 3: packs full title game, because that was at Levi's, and
Speaker 3: of course covering RSL Sounders matches at the clink.
Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, you know, ultimately, the closest thing I think
Speaker 2: we'll get to an NFL team in our market is
Speaker 2: if Utah and BYU are in the right group on
Speaker 2: the right side of the line of delineation. When college
Speaker 2: football moves into this potential pro model. That's probably the
Speaker 2: closest thing. Yate to never say never, but as far
Speaker 2: as something that might be on the horizon, because this
Speaker 2: new model Chris as everybody has written about and talked about,
Speaker 2: and who knows when it's going to happen, it does
Speaker 2: feel like it is inevitable. And one thing that it
Speaker 2: will do, for better or for worse, is, you know,
Speaker 2: pit the best teams in college football against each other,
Speaker 2: against each other week in and week out. I mean,
Speaker 2: that television deal is going to be crazy, and that's
Speaker 2: why a lot of private equity guys are interested in
Speaker 2: buying sex and college football teams. That's probably the closest
Speaker 2: thing we'll ever have to pro football.
Speaker 3: Here we call a transition for the kids listening at home,
Speaker 3: because our guy just took CK's RSL sounders in the
Speaker 3: press box and wove it into a will Utah and
Speaker 3: or BYU be left in the cold. Great, great, stunning stuff.
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. I appreciate that I.
Speaker 3: Agree with you, but I'm going to be a little
Speaker 3: bit of a I don't want to say naive. I
Speaker 3: don't want to be naive here, But like, I don't
Speaker 3: even know what the plan is. I don't even know
Speaker 3: if there's a plan, Like I think there is a
Speaker 3: concept of a plan, as a guy once said recently,
Speaker 3: But like otherwise, there's just lots of theories that are
Speaker 3: floating around and being reported, but nothing close to concrete.
Speaker 3: So while the likelihood of this so called super conference
Speaker 3: could potentially come to fruition, I don't know when we'll
Speaker 3: get there, if we'll get there, what the what the
Speaker 3: rights would look like, who gets involved, who doesn't. All
Speaker 3: I know is that the sharks at the top are
Speaker 3: going to keep feeding, and you know, as they should,
Speaker 3: because they're benefiting from being able to eat the most.
Speaker 2: Speaking of a concept of a plan, the Department of
Speaker 2: Education came out this week with some Title nine guidance
Speaker 2: as it applies to the payments to athletes. Now the
Speaker 2: Trump administration. His nominated takeover is Vince McMahon's a strange wife.
Speaker 2: I don't know much about her, but you know, nothing's real,
Speaker 2: and so what I've been reading is they could roll
Speaker 2: it back, but you know, we are moving into this
Speaker 2: reality coming up. I think it's June or July twenty
Speaker 2: point five, million in direct payments to athletes via NIL
Speaker 2: deals per school and according to the Department of Education.
Speaker 2: And the reason why this is important is the important
Speaker 2: is they are in charge of making sure that schools
Speaker 2: are staying compliant with Title nine guidelines. They're in charge
Speaker 2: of making sure these things are above board, or they're
Speaker 2: the ones that will come after you. You know, the
Speaker 2: easiest way to explain this is if fifty percent of
Speaker 2: the athletes at your school are male and fifty percent
Speaker 2: are female, then fifty percent of the revenue has to
Speaker 2: go to males and fifty percent has to go to females.
Speaker 2: And we've heard several athletic directors publicly say we're going
Speaker 2: to allocate about eighty seventy five eighty percent of that
Speaker 2: twenty point five mal the football players, and according to this,
Speaker 2: they would be in violation of Title nine. What are
Speaker 2: your thoughts on this? Do you think it stands or
Speaker 2: do you think it's going to be rolled back? When
Speaker 2: Vince McMahon's a strange wife runs the US Department of Education,
Speaker 2: the sentence I never thought I'd be able to say.
Speaker 3: So, are we going to tap into the vein of
Speaker 3: I enjoy ninety percent of the content. The show gets
Speaker 3: too woke for me about one fourth of the time.
Speaker 3: Are we going to are we ready to tap into
Speaker 3: the one fourth?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't been woke very much as of late, ck,
Speaker 2: so bring the wokeness.
Speaker 3: Well. As you were presenting me with that question, I
Speaker 3: got on the laptop, and of course, Linda McMahon is
Speaker 3: former wife of Vince McMahon, who I think Lindo had
Speaker 3: a huge part in the success of the WWF now
Speaker 3: the WWEH. It's a chair of the board of the
Speaker 3: America First Policy Institute, and I'm gonna read you their
Speaker 3: their mission statement. The America First Policy Institute is a
Speaker 3: five O one C three blah blah blah. It exists
Speaker 3: to advance policies that put the American people first. Our
Speaker 3: guiding principles are liberty, free enterprise, national greatness, American military support,
Speaker 3: foreign policy, engagement in the American interests, and the primary
Speaker 3: primacy of American workers, families, and communities. And all we
Speaker 3: do so the mission statement is clearly about equity amongst
Speaker 3: you know, college athletes in this new fangled world. To
Speaker 3: get back to your question again, how how is this
Speaker 3: going to be deployed? How is it going to be
Speaker 3: you know, who's going to police this thing? What is
Speaker 3: the policy officially going to look like? I think it
Speaker 3: makes sense. I know there's going to be pushed back
Speaker 3: about like should the school should the programs that bring
Speaker 3: in the most money to be able to have the
Speaker 3: most But listen, man, we can't, as we saw early
Speaker 3: on in COVID, like we can't utilize the strengths of
Speaker 3: a program at a certain school to be able to
Speaker 3: use that and contextualize getting rid of other sports and
Speaker 3: potentially getting rid of other athletes, which would be which
Speaker 3: are often titled nine decisions that obviously come off looking
Speaker 3: very bad. So again, going back, I'm not pleading the
Speaker 3: fifth man, but like, all this stuff is just way
Speaker 3: too smart for me. And you know, I'm not a
Speaker 3: smart person. Like I can't. I can pontificate on who
Speaker 3: deserves what and why they deserve it, but I don't matter.
Speaker 3: I'm just a regular on the drive man, Like it's
Speaker 3: Friday and I'm just chilling with my guys. So until
Speaker 3: we get some sort of concrete evidence like what the
Speaker 3: plan will be and what you know, miss McMahon wants
Speaker 3: to do, and really in terms of executing policy, it's
Speaker 3: all just going to be kind of conjecture.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I disagree.
Speaker 2: You are a smart guy, and you know, we'll do
Speaker 2: one more somewhat weighty question then we'll move on to
Speaker 2: Diego Luna's colt status with US many national team fans.
Speaker 2: But ready, So let let's and I asked Amy this question,
Speaker 2: and I knew that I was about to get my
Speaker 2: head taken off, so I asked her and I ducked.
Speaker 2: But there are most people would say, okay, the sports
Speaker 2: that generate the most revenue should have the bulk of
Speaker 2: the revenue invested into you know, that product, whether it's
Speaker 2: the athletes, whether it's the coaches, And the fact of
Speaker 2: the matter is the bulk of the money does go
Speaker 2: to those programs. The highest paid public employee in most
Speaker 2: states is either a football coach.
Speaker 1: In my home state, Connecticut's a.
Speaker 2: Basketball coach because Ucon's a basketball school. Is there flaw
Speaker 2: in that logic when most people look at this and say, okay,
Speaker 2: the way the world works is the football team generates
Speaker 2: the most revenue, so the football team deserves the bulk
Speaker 2: of the money to go towards them.
Speaker 3: I think there are two trains of thought one. Obviously, Yes, Secondarily,
Speaker 3: I think you will come to a model. Let's hope
Speaker 3: that gives these student athletes and these sports that historically
Speaker 3: have been underfunded and aren't represented well on the you know,
Speaker 3: fiscal plane. I hope they'll get more than they previously had.
Speaker 3: I'm just looking at this from a totally logical point
Speaker 3: of view. I have a really hard time thinking that
Speaker 3: it will end up being a fifty fifth split, fifty
Speaker 3: to fifty split. And I'm not saying what's right, wrong,
Speaker 3: or indifferent, because that's I'm not I'm not judge, jury
Speaker 3: and executioner, But like, ultimately a lot of these athletes
Speaker 3: also deserve to be compensated. Who's gonna who is going
Speaker 3: to be the judge? Who is going to bang the gabble?
Speaker 3: Like I do think basketball and football will be king
Speaker 3: and at some schools, like you know, women's basketball will
Speaker 3: have a say, schools like you know, South Carolina, Baylor, Tennessee,
Speaker 3: so on and so forth. But ultimately, I think that
Speaker 3: this is the society we live in. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: it's not too hard to read the tea leaves, man.
Speaker 3: I think everybody knows which way this will go. My
Speaker 3: hope is that programs and people that have historically been
Speaker 3: underfunded are given their piece of pie as well.
Speaker 2: So I was having this debate a couple of weeks
Speaker 2: ago imced an event up in Park City. Rick new
Speaker 2: Heisl was on the panel, and we were talking about
Speaker 2: the role of simply private equity in sports, you know,
Speaker 2: venture capitalists. A lot of very rich, powerful people were
Speaker 2: there that live in a world that I just don't
Speaker 2: they can't even relate to.
Speaker 1: And we opened up the debate.
Speaker 2: As far as the recent trend of women's sports and
Speaker 2: valuations of NWSL teams and WNBA team sky high and
Speaker 2: WNBA ratings not just improving like quadrupling, And yes, you
Speaker 2: do have to draw a line to Kaitlin Clark. Okay,
Speaker 2: I know we're supposed to say, well, the women that
Speaker 2: came before and all of that certainly is true, but.
Speaker 1: You know, golf needed Tiger, soccer needed Messy.
Speaker 2: It's not uncommon that one figure literally changed the landscape
Speaker 2: of a sport, and Kaitlin has done that for the WNBA.
Speaker 2: My question, as we continue to tap into your expertise
Speaker 2: whether or not you like it, is have we reached
Speaker 2: a bubble or is this trend of money being invested
Speaker 2: in women's sports and clear attention being directed towards women's sports.
Speaker 1: Does it continue to trend up?
Speaker 3: I think it continues to trend up. I think it's
Speaker 3: too early to say whether or not there was a
Speaker 3: bubble and if it did exist, if it's burst or not.
Speaker 3: I mean, Kaitlin is going into her second year as
Speaker 3: a professional athlete in the WNBA, and granted there really
Speaker 3: isn't anybody who has been able will have been able
Speaker 3: to captivate a national audience the way Caitlyn did during
Speaker 3: her time at Iowa. I mean, shoot, dude, she was
Speaker 3: in the she was in the box with with Taylor
Speaker 3: at the Chiefs game. She's she's yeah. I mean, she's
Speaker 3: the real deal. And I agree with you, it does.
Speaker 3: It does sound kind of, as my guy would say, reductive,
Speaker 3: but like stars matter, and you know, like they will
Speaker 3: take you places, and Caitlin's definitely in that group, especially
Speaker 3: if you're talking about a sport that needs more star
Speaker 3: power and more star representation to be able to reach
Speaker 3: the fringe folk, the periphery, the folks who aren't even
Speaker 3: sports fans, you know, people like my wife who will like,
Speaker 3: you know, during her time my Iowa, she'd be like, oh,
Speaker 3: look at this Instagram reel of Kaitlyn Clark, Like that
Speaker 3: stuff goes a long way. And I think to your point,
Speaker 3: the pe guys as you like to call them, like
Speaker 3: they see that as a massive investment opportunity. I would hope,
Speaker 3: and maybe this is a to glass half full. I
Speaker 3: would hope that folks don't necessarily feel compelled to have
Speaker 3: to wait for the next Caitlin Clark in that sense,
Speaker 3: because it's hard, man, Like we had Michael, we waited
Speaker 3: how I mean, I guess that the overlap between Michael
Speaker 3: and Kobe and MJ wasn't that long, like or Michael,
Speaker 3: Kobe and Lebron wasn't that long. But like, it's hard, man.
Speaker 3: I we get into this comparison game that I feel
Speaker 3: like is very dangerous and again reductive and really belittles
Speaker 3: what so many people have to offer. And all you
Speaker 3: have to do is turn on the TV and pay attention.
Speaker 3: Like it's not that hard, Like you don't need you
Speaker 3: don't need to watch you know, Real Housewives of Salt
Speaker 3: Lake City. It's great, you know, I love it, but
Speaker 3: you know I can I can tune into other things.
Speaker 3: There are other there are other sports to watch, them
Speaker 3: to be invigorated by.
Speaker 2: If I'm in the mood for a coach shot pep talk,
Speaker 2: I'm turning it on.
Speaker 1: Man, I don't care what you say, I'm turning it on.
Speaker 3: Is that, well, there's there's been there's been a lack
Speaker 3: of those in the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: Well, I only saw I think the first four episodes
Speaker 2: of season one because my honest, sincere hope and I'm
Speaker 2: not being facetious.
Speaker 1: I'm putting on my serious cap here.
Speaker 2: I thought, okay, cool, like this show will expose the
Speaker 2: cool parts of our city and our market to a
Speaker 2: very large audience. I think they get like ten million
Speaker 2: view ten million viewers per episode.
Speaker 1: That was my hope.
Speaker 2: And then within a few episodes, I'm like, they're not
Speaker 2: doing any of that, So I just stopped watching.
Speaker 3: I guess I would counter and since the sports sports
Speaker 3: talk radio we can banter like what what would what
Speaker 3: were you hoping they would be able to showcase to
Speaker 3: the outside.
Speaker 2: World, I don't know, just a shot at trap and
Speaker 2: Nate benchcrack and a FURDA juniors, you know, just the
Speaker 2: real people here, you know, just just to just to
Speaker 2: keep it real.
Speaker 3: I mean our guy Trey Camberling, who is back in
Speaker 3: his home state of Iowa. He he coined a phrase
Speaker 3: that I always laugh at and I always repeat to
Speaker 3: him every single time. He joked about his small Hope
Speaker 3: hometown in Iowa as the epicenter of culture. And you can,
Speaker 3: if you're talking about Salt Lake City and the you know,
Speaker 3: huge scale of the US and view it through the
Speaker 3: lens of you know, the real Housewives of Salt Lake City,
Speaker 3: we can be an epicenter of culture for people. People
Speaker 3: love it still, man, I'm telling you my sister's in California.
Speaker 3: If they're obsessed with it, they think it's the best one.
Speaker 3: So we have something going for us in that sense.
Speaker 3: But I do agree with you. It is a fairly
Speaker 3: uh not sanitized version. It's just kind of a it
Speaker 3: feels like a very Sandy Draper version of of who
Speaker 3: we are.
Speaker 1: Are you watching it?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean I'm locked in bro.
Speaker 1: Is Dave Rose's like brothers still married to that one?
Speaker 3: Correct? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah? Ok? Yeah, Well shout out to that guy.
Speaker 2: Seems like that's a tough ask in my opinion, But
Speaker 2: I'll you know, I'm not judging. Let's let's move away
Speaker 2: from this quickly. We were talking about this early had
Speaker 2: I had your guy Andy on. I had a guy
Speaker 2: B Larson on and he caught up with Lowry, Mark
Speaker 2: and In and Colin Sexton and to his credit, asked
Speaker 2: him point blank like, how is this tanking stuff affecting you?
Speaker 2: And I think it's a really slippery slope when you
Speaker 2: have an awesome player in his prime to kind of
Speaker 2: take this route. Although I understand and agree with what
Speaker 2: the Jazz are doing, it it sucks, but I mean
Speaker 2: this sincerely. Prior to two thousand and four, I probably
Speaker 2: could have counted on one hand how many soccer matches
Speaker 2: I watched. Usually it was like a World Cup final
Speaker 2: or whatever. And whenever any soccer goop would be like
Speaker 2: we should do promotion relegation in American sports, or of
Speaker 2: like communists go away in the corner, because I didn't
Speaker 2: know anything about it. And now you know, twenty one
Speaker 2: years later, since we rought the club here, and I've
Speaker 2: very much come to a space of enjoying the game,
Speaker 2: respecting the game, understanding the game, and promotion relegation is awesome,
Speaker 2: like I think it should be in college football. I
Speaker 2: think it should be in pro basketball. I don't know
Speaker 2: that the NFL has the infrastructure to do it. Do
Speaker 2: you think there's any way that any sport over across
Speaker 2: the pond here adopts this format promotion relegation. Do you
Speaker 2: think it's ever gonna gonna happen or even be considered?
Speaker 3: Never ever, in a billion, trillion, gazillion infinity years. It
Speaker 3: is not part of our culture. We are a top
Speaker 3: heavy obsessed with winning at all costs. Culture and context
Speaker 3: be damned, we are not capable of it. I agree
Speaker 3: with you wholeheartedly. You see what it means to players
Speaker 3: and staffers and fans when a team gets relegated, and
Speaker 3: what happens when a team gets bumped up, and it
Speaker 3: is the epicenter of bummer and bliss. Man, I'm telling
Speaker 3: you it is. It is like the ultimate human experience
Speaker 3: watching in real time. We don't have that here. Like
Speaker 3: here we have, you know, people arguing about Taylor and
Speaker 3: Travis kelcey like that's what we are, That's who we are,
Speaker 3: And it's unfortunate, but it would be cool. It would
Speaker 3: make the stakes higher and make every single night that
Speaker 3: much more intense and meaningful and frankly, I mean, I
Speaker 3: can only imagine. I'm of the opinion that I think
Speaker 3: it would help media ratings because I think for a
Speaker 3: sport like basketball, people tune out for several months on
Speaker 3: end because they know that there are there are teams
Speaker 3: that are going to be doing load managements, and nobody
Speaker 3: cares to watch the Raptors play the Kings and Sacramento
Speaker 3: on a Wednesday night, Whereas like, if there was a
Speaker 3: bigger picture ramification on the line, you bet your ass
Speaker 3: people would be into it. So I don't know, that's
Speaker 3: that's me on my soapbox, but I never think it
Speaker 3: will happen here, but it would be really cool if
Speaker 3: it did.
Speaker 2: RSL played today, they played a match I didn't really
Speaker 2: know that they were even doing that scrimmage preseason match.
Speaker 2: Eleven comes out, the starting eleven comes out. I knew
Speaker 2: like four players. Trey pop Town earlier gave us the
Speaker 2: rundown of where we're at, and I think they need
Speaker 2: to sign a striker. They're gonna rely on like five
Speaker 2: players they brought in, none of which have this really
Speaker 2: awesome pedigree. Diego Luna kind of announced his arrival to
Speaker 2: the dorks that love the US men's national team. What
Speaker 2: do they call that group, the Sam's Army or whatever?
Speaker 1: Those goobs. So now he's like this cult hero over there.
Speaker 2: So some fun things happening with RSL, but a lot
Speaker 2: of unknown c K.
Speaker 1: What's your expectations for the club this year?
Speaker 3: Great pull man, great pull on Sam's Army in a
Speaker 3: weird way, like I think they had a terrible offseason,
Speaker 3: but at the same time, like one signing I think
Speaker 3: could really change the landscape of how this season specifically goes.
Speaker 3: I am not under the assumption that any of these
Speaker 3: guys they have at the night position right now will
Speaker 3: pan out to be anything remotely productive. I've been proven
Speaker 3: wrong before. But if you're thinking about the exoskeleton of
Speaker 3: what you need to be a good team, RSL, oh
Speaker 3: they have it. They got to figure out how to
Speaker 3: let teams stop scoring three or four times every match
Speaker 3: like they did for much of last year. But you
Speaker 3: have maybe one of the best midfield tandems in a
Speaker 3: Mecca and Allen Brian o'hada Diego Luna is obviously continuing
Speaker 3: to shoot up. You know, the the rankings of most
Speaker 3: talented young players in the league, but you're counting on
Speaker 3: guys that came in last year that you know, I
Speaker 3: think Dominic mark Suit had a decent run of form,
Speaker 3: But like you're counting on guys like him and Diego
Speaker 3: Diego Gunzalves to come in and be you know, you
Speaker 3: need them to be at the level of a Diego
Speaker 3: Luna for an entire season and if not better, especially
Speaker 3: for Gunslves. That's a guy who was one of the
Speaker 3: best players you know in FC Copenhagen, you know, one
Speaker 3: of the one of the top teams in Europe for
Speaker 3: a long time. They lose an alpha and Chico Arongo.
Speaker 3: They need an alpha in the attack and I just
Speaker 3: don't know. Obviously Luna has that, as you know, Mauricio
Speaker 3: Pacheccino said the other night, Big Balls. He just said
Speaker 3: it to Denny on the broadcast, straight up big balls
Speaker 3: with with the broken nose and playing. So Diego has it.
Speaker 3: I just don't know does he. Is he capable of
Speaker 3: carrying an entire attack on his shoulders for the length
Speaker 3: of the season. I don't think so. So you just
Speaker 3: need to put better players around him, and you need
Speaker 3: to have other players rise to the occasion. But this
Speaker 3: nine by committee thing, I'm extremely skeptical about because these
Speaker 3: are the types of guys that sometimes they pan out,
Speaker 3: but sometimes they're guys that end up playing at like
Speaker 3: Rio Grand Valley in the USL and you never really
Speaker 3: hear from again.
Speaker 2: Since you brought up needing an alpha on the pitch,
Speaker 2: should we take this opportunity to offer thoughts and prayers
Speaker 2: to the family of the bowl.
Speaker 3: Somebody somebody posted like that alpha con poster on Twitter
Speaker 3: and was like, three out of the nine people on
Speaker 3: this poster are now facing federal like criminal charges in
Speaker 3: just like a year two years later. So listen, man,
Speaker 3: I mean, if they have another one, God willing, we
Speaker 3: got to go because we have to. We have to
Speaker 3: go in from the alphas, man, because that's the only
Speaker 3: way you're going to succeed in life.
Speaker 2: No, if they have another one, I'm going to post
Speaker 2: if a series of videos painting myself is an alpha,
Speaker 2: to see if I can speak to see if they'll.
Speaker 3: I like it, man, they'll take your kind. I don't
Speaker 3: think it would work for me. I think they would
Speaker 3: look at me and they I think they I think
Speaker 3: they would pick up and call the phone, you know,
Speaker 3: call a number on the phone.
Speaker 1: So I don't know that was the meanest thing you've
Speaker 1: ever said to me. They'll take your kind if you.
Speaker 3: Lean into the character. Man. You know that, that's why
Speaker 3: you said it.
Speaker 2: Come on, all right, fair enough, last thing, then I'll
Speaker 2: set you loose. I wanted to get your thoughts on
Speaker 2: a topic that we discussed. I think it was Tuesday.
Speaker 2: I got an email. There's this guy who emails me
Speaker 2: every day. He runs this service where he does a
Speaker 2: bunch of surveying across the country to see, like which
Speaker 2: state wants which team to win which game? You know,
Speaker 2: who's American chain for the super Bowl? And nearly you know,
Speaker 2: over two thirds of the country anti Chiefs. They want
Speaker 2: the bills. And we do this thing Chris and sports,
Speaker 2: and we've it happened recently here. All of these things
Speaker 2: need to be analyzed separately, but just generally speaking, the
Speaker 2: dynamic is we tend to love you until we don't.
Speaker 2: Like Donovan Mitchell is the example I used where that
Speaker 2: dude walked down water here then suddenly it felt like
Speaker 2: a lot of people just wanted him gone. And is
Speaker 2: it Taylor Swift? Is it winning? Is it all of it?
Speaker 2: Why do we do this thing in sports where we
Speaker 2: seem to love you until we very much do not.
Speaker 3: We are we looking at this through the lens of
Speaker 3: the mahomes and the officiating. Is this where you're kind
Speaker 3: kind of going.
Speaker 1: That's probably partially.
Speaker 2: Partially, that's probably, you know, the one piece of the reasoning,
Speaker 2: but a lot of it's probably the attention.
Speaker 1: A lot of it's probably the winning.
Speaker 2: It's just like whatever it is, Yankees, Lakers, Patriots, individual players,
Speaker 2: just as sports fans. I don't know if it's lack
Speaker 2: of attention span or whatever it is, but we just
Speaker 2: seem to love you and tell me very much do not.
Speaker 3: Well one I agree. I have a personal anecdote. My cousin,
Speaker 3: who is one of my best friends, grew up a
Speaker 3: Lakers fan, and he's been texting me throughout the season saying,
Speaker 3: the Chiefs are getting calls, the Chiefs are getting calls,
Speaker 3: and man, obviously that the way that the Texans playoff
Speaker 3: game went. He was like, see, I told you, And
Speaker 3: I was like, man, you got to root for Kobe
Speaker 3: Bryant for twenty years. Can you imagine how other people
Speaker 3: felt every time Kobe, who was one of the best
Speaker 3: smartest players in the league, did his little pump fake
Speaker 3: or whatever and got to the line twenty times a game.
Speaker 3: It's the same thing, man. People just want to find
Speaker 3: something to be upset about. And it's weird that in
Speaker 3: this culture that's so obsessed with winning that we do
Speaker 3: manage to find a way to be very, very angry
Speaker 3: at sustained success in sports. Like the Chiefs are like
Speaker 3: fifteen and two or sixteen and two now, and you
Speaker 3: can make an argument they haven't played one good game
Speaker 3: this year, which is insane. So maybe like they're turning
Speaker 3: it on at the right time. They probably are, But
Speaker 3: like that means that this team, if they can win
Speaker 3: a third straight Super Bowl, that's never been done. Like,
Speaker 3: what are we mad about? Man? Like, are we mad
Speaker 3: that Patrick Mahomes is smart enough to like, you know,
Speaker 3: bend the rules for himself and do fake slides and
Speaker 3: do drop downs. Yeah, we can be mad about that,
Speaker 3: but they'll fix it in the off season. They always
Speaker 3: change things every year. In the meantime, just sit there
Speaker 3: and enjoy it. But my caveat is, if you are
Speaker 3: a human being with feelings and empathy, you should be
Speaker 3: cheering for the team playing the Chiefs. Why because a
Speaker 3: lot of people don't know that the Buffalo Bills lost
Speaker 3: four straight Super Bowls at one point in the nineties,
Speaker 3: which is like the saddest thing in the world for like,
Speaker 3: which was I think you could make an argument the
Speaker 3: smallest market team in the NFL, and probably still is
Speaker 3: to this day. It's them or Green Bay, Like, they
Speaker 3: lost four straight Super Bowl spence like that is insane,
Speaker 3: man Like, for a team of that stature to get
Speaker 3: there four straight times, which is probably unheard of anyways,
Speaker 3: and then to come on short so many times is
Speaker 3: so sad. So if you're hoping for some sort of
Speaker 3: like fairy tale ending for a fan base that by
Speaker 3: all accounts really loves its team, you can. You should
Speaker 3: cheer for the Bills because they have a history of
Speaker 3: being very sad. But you shouldn't cheer for the Bills
Speaker 3: because you're tired of Patrick.
Speaker 1: Mahomes Well said, are you gonna get on Blue Sky?
Speaker 3: I got on it, and I was. I realized that
Speaker 3: it made It was just not working for me, so
Speaker 3: I deleted it. I can't have too many of those things, man,
Speaker 3: there's no point.
Speaker 1: I know there's some point.
Speaker 2: I know. I just fired mine up. I've been on
Speaker 2: it for a couple of months, I just fired it up.
Speaker 2: I don't need more either, but I just can't get
Speaker 2: on the other thing anymore.
Speaker 1: It's just like exhausting.
Speaker 3: Well, all you have to do, Spence, is you just
Speaker 3: have to mute and block and mute and mute and mute.
Speaker 3: All you have to do is take like three to
Speaker 3: four hours and mute keywords and just make sure that
Speaker 3: you can just get the type of information that you want.
Speaker 3: And always always always avoid the for you. Always avoid
Speaker 3: the for you, and you'll be okay.
Speaker 1: Good advice.
Speaker 2: If you saw my list of accounts that are muted
Speaker 2: or blocked, you'd be stunned. It's most everybody. But anyway, anyway, Christopher,
Speaker 2: I appreciate your time. High five de Lio and we
Speaker 2: will chat soon.
Speaker 3: Thanks buddy, Yes, sir, thank you.
Speaker 2: Chris cam Roddie, senior staff writer at The Athletic Friday
Speaker 2: Staple on the program