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<v Speaker 1>The following presentation is Al Marvis Studio's production.

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<v Speaker 2>When you look on the sky, do you feel the poll?

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<v Speaker 3>The question why.

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<v Speaker 4>The stories told?

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<v Speaker 2>And left behind in shadows where the truth we find.

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<v Speaker 2>They built their tails on grafts and lines on theories.

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<v Speaker 3>They stay their designed.

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<v Speaker 5>Put down here on this.

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<v Speaker 3>Slid Welcome back the truth seekers from around the world.

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<v Speaker 3>It's time for another edition of the Flat Earth Files

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<v Speaker 3>podcast as we record on this Monday morning, March seventeenth,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty five. I hope this podcast finds everyone well

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<v Speaker 3>and you're having a great week. Just a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>quick notes, please do stop by the website. It is

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<v Speaker 3>theflatearthfiles dot com. And if you would like to join

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<v Speaker 3>the podcast like Philip is today, please do send us

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<v Speaker 3>an email. It is FE filesguest at gmail dot com. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>it is FE filesguest at gmail dot com. We are

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<v Speaker 3>now booking into the second week of April, so if

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<v Speaker 3>you've been thinking about joining us, please do send us

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<v Speaker 3>an email and we'll get you scheduled just as quickly

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<v Speaker 3>as we can without any further ado. We're going to

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<v Speaker 3>bring on today's guest. His name is Philip. Philip, how

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<v Speaker 3>are you doing today?

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<v Speaker 6>Sir, good Ben, how are you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing really well. Thanks again for joining us this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>And before we kick things off, please do take a

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<v Speaker 3>few minutes and introduce yourself to the audience.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well, my name's Philip. I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>say I had a wonderful wife, a loving wife who

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<v Speaker 1>gets really tired of hearing all my relevations and lecturing

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<v Speaker 1>she calls it. Got two kids, two beautiful kids, and

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<v Speaker 1>grew up down here in the South. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in a Baptist church. I'll saved when

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<v Speaker 1>I was sixteen years old, and just I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>had a more of a I think my childhood is

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<v Speaker 1>more closely linked to like the nineteen sixties or seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>We kind of grew up a little bit, even though

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in the in the nineties. I'm thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven years old, and I kind of we just had

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, small little town in North Georgia and

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<v Speaker 1>just always had a little garden lived around all My

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<v Speaker 1>family always had like chickens in my backyard, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I worked for sixteen years for a municipal water

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<v Speaker 1>supply here in North Georgia, and I can give you

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<v Speaker 1>my thoughts on Floride a little later, if you would like.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I just got a high school education, never really liked

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<v Speaker 1>anything but history. I didn't study anything. I didn't I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a very good student. I didn't like reading until

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<v Speaker 1>after I got married, and then I just started kind

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<v Speaker 1>of delping into a lot of like Western Mountain and

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<v Speaker 1>history all that kind of stuff, and that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sent me down a little bit of of a rabbit hole.

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<v Speaker 1>With the whole Lewis and Clark expedition, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff in that that that is not taught in

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<v Speaker 1>school today. So that's that's kind of where I come from.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what else to kind of add to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just kind of started coming to flat Earth, I think, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>probably around like everybody, I guess around COVID and like

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<v Speaker 1>the withdrawal from Afghanistan, just kind of seeing all the

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<v Speaker 1>lives and stuff and deception in the media and how

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<v Speaker 1>the media is kind of plays on both sides kind

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff, and just and then seeing NASA how

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<v Speaker 1>they lost the technology and all this. It just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of started researching in all this, and that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sent me down all those rabbit holes.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, that's interesting I've never really heard anyone mention that

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<v Speaker 3>the withdrawal from Afghanistan kind of but that makes complete sense.

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<v Speaker 3>How why any individual in charge of an operation like

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<v Speaker 3>that would just say, Okay, we're done, everybody leave and

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<v Speaker 3>number one leave billions, just tens of billions of dollars,

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<v Speaker 3>if not trillions of equipment behind. And then there was

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<v Speaker 3>I think something a lot of truth seekers forget about

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<v Speaker 3>because there's so many rabbit holes in. Every week there's

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<v Speaker 3>new sy ops dropped. I don't remember if you remember that.

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<v Speaker 3>It was either a C one thirty or a C

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<v Speaker 3>five that was taken off and there was like one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred people attached to it, and there was the interesting

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<v Speaker 3>numbers on the plane and it looked like it was

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<v Speaker 3>an inflatable plane. And do you remember that whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like the it took off of the guy holding

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then they showed it like a guy fell

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<v Speaker 3>from like five hundred feet You remember that as it

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<v Speaker 3>was taking off.

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<v Speaker 1>It's insane.

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<v Speaker 3>Did that even happen or was that just another sy op?

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<v Speaker 3>Because it sure looked it didn't look like an authentic plane.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that that kind of stood up to me. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've never been in the military, so I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea about that. But just something that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was remember September eleventh very vividly. You know. I

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<v Speaker 1>was in my eighth eighth grade classroom in a science class,

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<v Speaker 1>and like remember the whole whole day. I guess that

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of like the guys with the Challenger and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody kind of remembers where they were at. But just

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<v Speaker 1>that whole experience kind of stuck with me all my childhood,

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<v Speaker 1>my young adulthood, you know. And then because we were

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<v Speaker 1>at war from the time I was fourteen till I

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<v Speaker 1>mean just what just a couple of years ago, like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years.

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<v Speaker 6>And what really I mean that it opened my eyes is.

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<v Speaker 1>That we we had all the we'd fought against this enemy,

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<v Speaker 1>the talent Man for for two decades, like and lost

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<v Speaker 1>so many lives and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>And then and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Joe Biden gets elected and we were suddenly in

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<v Speaker 1>talks and peace treaties with them, and everything's good, and

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<v Speaker 1>we just surrendered eighty eight billion dollars worth of equipment

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that to them. It's like, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>telling me that the two decades we just spent in

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<v Speaker 1>war like didn't mean anything like, that's just kind of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It really just opened my eyes to like to all

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<v Speaker 1>of it in a sense. I think that's that's how

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that. If that might be a little bit confusing, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, No, no, it makes perfect sense. And I would

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<v Speaker 3>venture to guess that the people who witnessed the way

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<v Speaker 3>we exited Vietnam felt the same way. Right that the

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<v Speaker 3>helicopters on the roofs and people trying to climb in.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they were chinooks and uate sixties and they

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<v Speaker 3>were just okay, that's it. And it really just goes

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<v Speaker 3>to show how little they care about our lives, because

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<v Speaker 3>for Vietnam, they were willing to just you know, expend

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<v Speaker 3>fifty eight thousand lives and that's just the people who

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<v Speaker 3>were killed. That doesn't touch the number of people who

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<v Speaker 3>were injured, wounded. Never you know, we're able to hear

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<v Speaker 3>heal mentally. You know, we talk about the twenty two

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<v Speaker 3>veterans a day who take their own lives because of

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<v Speaker 3>these exact things they've seen. Their buddies lost their lives.

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<v Speaker 3>And then all the in Afghanistan, you know how many

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<v Speaker 3>people I had email me about veterans who were in Afghanistan,

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<v Speaker 3>lost buddies in Afghanistan, and then just to walk away

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<v Speaker 3>like that. It was a slap in the face to

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people. But nothing that not just this

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<v Speaker 3>government does, but most governments around the world, because I

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<v Speaker 3>think we all know that they're all controlled by the

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<v Speaker 3>same entity. None of it makes sense. We are last

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to and these are the people that

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<v Speaker 3>are supposedly, you know, sworn to protect us. And that

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<v Speaker 3>is the furthest thing from the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I kind of I just wrote some notes

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<v Speaker 1>down here, so I'm just sorry from rambling, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just I kind of believe the same people that instigated

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<v Speaker 1>war in the first place. Like that's kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>I believe is. I just started looking at war and

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<v Speaker 1>how they it's almost like they use it to control

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<v Speaker 1>and depopulate, and like World War One makes no sense

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<v Speaker 1>to me whatsoever, Like how that it happened so fast,

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<v Speaker 1>so rapidly, when most people didn't even have electricity, there

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<v Speaker 1>was no internet in their homes. There wasn't any way

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<v Speaker 1>to to like to to propagandize them as much at

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<v Speaker 1>that time. Yet it all happened extremely fast, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know it just it doesn't make sense to me on

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<v Speaker 1>the scheme of things, other than the fact that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they propagandize them over a span of decades, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and who is they? I don't like media controllers and

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<v Speaker 1>government entities and stuff like that. At the time, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess, yeah, And that's a great point in all. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>they say that World War One kicked off because of

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the Archduke Ferdinand assassination, but they also claim,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the Lusitania's voyage May of nineteen fifteen. But

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<v Speaker 3>even Germany warned in the New York Times newspaper, they said, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>don't get on that boat because they're actually shuttling weapons

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<v Speaker 3>back and forth in that thing. It's not an actual liner.

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<v Speaker 3>And they warned the Americans and the English stay off

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<v Speaker 3>of that boat. They gave them a full warning before

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<v Speaker 3>they sank it. So, you know, the history books claim,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, between the Lusitania and the Archduke Ferdinand, that

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<v Speaker 3>is the reason why you know that this pain and

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<v Speaker 3>suffering of millions of people occurred. And you're right. If

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<v Speaker 3>you look at the very first law of the Georgia guidestones,

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<v Speaker 3>it talks about population control, and war is certainly one.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that wipes out family trees, I mean million

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<v Speaker 3>of people. And I'm i hesitate to say, but I

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<v Speaker 3>believe world War three is right around the corner. England

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<v Speaker 3>came out last night. They're sending ten thousand soldiers to Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 3>They're calling them peacekeepers. But if there's no such thing

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<v Speaker 3>as a peace treaty in place, they're not peacekeepers, and

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<v Speaker 3>Russia will treat them as such. So you can imagine

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<v Speaker 3>if uk puts some troops on the ground and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a Russian sniper takes one out, how the powers that

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<v Speaker 3>be are going to run with that story.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds a little bit like Vietnam to me, you know, well,

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<v Speaker 1>like the peacekeepers and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>The advisors they called the war they called them the advisors,

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<v Speaker 3>but they were soldiers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, Well, and actually too, it sounds a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to me like World War Two as well. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like for decades before, or a decade during the nineteen thirties,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like we were arming, you know, Britain, and

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<v Speaker 1>we were arming France, like we were sending like the

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<v Speaker 1>lease programs and all this for like the small arms

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<v Speaker 1>and all this. And you can go back and just look,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was just like, there's so much of the

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<v Speaker 1>same like rhetoric going on today as there was back

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen thirties, you know, before World War Two.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's nothing new under the sun. I guess no.

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<v Speaker 3>They've re used the same playbook over and over again.

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<v Speaker 3>And they told us that they always tell us ahead

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<v Speaker 3>of time of what's going to come. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was Karl Marx and Morls and Dogma said that

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<v Speaker 3>there will be three world wars. And I really, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not here to push fearpoint or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 3>but all you have to do is look to see

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<v Speaker 3>how things are falling into place. I think it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be sooner than later then we see part three.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think people are going to fall for another

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<v Speaker 3>another vaccine mandate that it's gonna be, so I think

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<v Speaker 3>they'll go back to old, reliable and more. Before we

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<v Speaker 3>the US government. The freedom Torches were in I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was in the twenties or thirties. The women came

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<v Speaker 3>So they pushed that for the cigarette companies to make money.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he was behind getting people to convince people

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<v Speaker 3>Because Alcoa, which is the was it the Aluminum Company

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<v Speaker 3>of America. They orchestrated this public relations campaign to convince

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<v Speaker 3>be good if they took Alcoa's toxic byproduct, which are

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<v Speaker 3>full I think they're in the form of fluoride, salt

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<v Speaker 3>high rates for disposing of this. What are your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>Well, like I said, i I'm not I'm not too

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<v Speaker 1>and then I went all the way to working into

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<v Speaker 1>get to work on like water treatment specifically, But but

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<v Speaker 1>that where we stored and received floride, that inside that building,

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<v Speaker 1>like it would literally like the metals, the plastic, the brick,

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<v Speaker 1>all the plumbing, it would just deteriorate. Uh, just just

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<v Speaker 1>that this stuff fed through, like just being in that room,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a large, you know, industrial storage tank

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff all that stuff. But I was a water

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<v Speaker 1>laboratory analyst, and I was I was only that for

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<v Speaker 7>I I got I had to, you know, take a

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<v Speaker 7>and all that stuff, and learn a little bit about

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<v Speaker 7>chemistry and all that and the teacher that I was

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<v Speaker 7>the whole time I was in there, he was a

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<v Speaker 7>very educated man, and he was just telling me that,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, there's basically no reason for fluoride.

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<v Speaker 1>They say it's for our teeth, but if you administer

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<v Speaker 1>too much, it will actually wrought your teeth out. So

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be within like millimeters or not millimeters,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have to be very specific with the amount

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite effect. And in fact, I think that that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably why having fluoride and all of our toothpaste and

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<v Speaker 1>just noticed it doesn't matter how well you brush your

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<v Speaker 1>teeth how or anybody how much you lost, generally you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to have a couple of cavities fixed,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in your mouth. And I think that with

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<v Speaker 1>the addition of sugar and all of our diets and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>has a large part of it. But I really think

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<v Speaker 1>that it's probably the fluoride is actually breaking down the

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<v Speaker 1>enamel on our teeth, is what I really think. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just as far as that goes, I just think

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<v Speaker 1>that that is it's just a toxin that we should

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<v Speaker 1>not be putting in our water, but we're mandated to

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<v Speaker 1>by the state. And if you don't administry, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you can pay severe, they can shut you down, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's my thoughts on it. I hope that that

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<v Speaker 1>was clear.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's one hundred percent clear, Very well said, and

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<v Speaker 3>coming from somebody who's been in a water treatment center.

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<v Speaker 3>That is very interesting. Yeah, and it's very similar to

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<v Speaker 3>our healthcare system. People say it all the time. We

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<v Speaker 3>don't really have a healthcare system. We have a sick

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<v Speaker 3>care system, and a healthy individual is not a good

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<v Speaker 3>model for a business for the healthcare industry, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think that is the same with the dental industry. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think there is something nefarious about putting chemicals into water.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not only been people who have written journals and

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<v Speaker 3>done studies on the physical harm of fluoride, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>often stated that it was used during World War Two

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<v Speaker 3>to make people docile. And if you look at everything

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<v Speaker 3>that has happened to us post World War Two as

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<v Speaker 3>a country and how we have generally accepted everything, it's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of interesting to think about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the whole water treatment process is kind of fascinating,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's a whole list of chemicals that go into

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<v Speaker 1>the treatment of water, and like they're all they all

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<v Speaker 1>have their negative side effects, and it just what was

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating to me is that we were treating water and

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, based on my class that I had

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<v Speaker 1>to take on that we were treating water in the

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<v Speaker 1>early twentieth century, like nineteen hundred and would just coourine

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<v Speaker 1>and it was generally considered pretty safe. It would kill

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of bacteria and passages that might be

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<v Speaker 1>contained in the water and everything like that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>further you can go and like filter the larger you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bacteria and stuff like that, the cysts that forming water

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<v Speaker 1>that can like crypto spreitty, you can filter that out

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<v Speaker 1>basically through industrial filtration. So I mean it's like, really,

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<v Speaker 1>I think all we need to have healthy drinking water.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think people did have healthy drinking water back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day a lot so more than people realize,

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<v Speaker 1>just from having wells and things like that. But even

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<v Speaker 1>people in the cities that had as long as you

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<v Speaker 1>just had chlorine and it run through a filter, it

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<v Speaker 1>was probably very safe. But yeah, we just have to

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like we have to mess with everything that

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<v Speaker 1>we do like that, you know, and it just seems

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<v Speaker 1>like the more we get involved with it, the more

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<v Speaker 1>it it kind of destroys it in a sense.

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<v Speaker 3>And you could take that analogy and put it to

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<v Speaker 3>modern day medicine. And I'm talking specifically about the pharmaceutical side.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're sick, right, and we saw that in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty and twenty twenty one, right, you never heard, well

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<v Speaker 3>you should probably get outside and get some sunlight because

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<v Speaker 3>that gives you vitamin D that's going to help you

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<v Speaker 3>and eat better and all these other things. It was

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<v Speaker 3>just don't get a vaccine, Dope, get a vaccine. Don't

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<v Speaker 3>get a vaccine. And it's the same with the measle

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<v Speaker 3>outbreak in Texas. Right, there's an episode of The Brady

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<v Speaker 3>Bunch that has gone viral again where one of the

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<v Speaker 3>boys come home from school because he got the measles

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<v Speaker 3>and they're all excited. They have their party upstairs and

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<v Speaker 3>they're like, isn't this great and we don't even need

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<v Speaker 3>to get a shot. But now here we are, just

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<v Speaker 3>just forty years later, and they have taken it and

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<v Speaker 3>flipped it upside and oh no, no, no, no. The

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<v Speaker 3>only cure for this is vaccination. And exactly like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>the more that man intervenes you could call it chemically

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever you wanted to say, Uh, the more damage

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, the that's another kind of rabbit hole. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the whole pharmaceutical thing. I I love. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I was just interested in history as a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was more specifically I was kind of interested

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<v Speaker 1>in like how people could could make something from nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like how Native Americans, for instance, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they could utilize a whole buffalo, or they could utilize

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<v Speaker 1>a whole deer or whatever like that. That was that

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<v Speaker 1>was always fascinating. But also it's like early Americans could

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<v Speaker 1>hospital or doctors or anything like that. There was just

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<v Speaker 1>so much knowledge of like medicinal plants and and their

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<v Speaker 1>diet was so much healthier. It's like they didn't and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like that's so that's so different from today where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like every ailment we have appeal for every we

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<v Speaker 1>had to go to the doctor every time our children

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<v Speaker 1>get the sniffles, and like we have no knowledge, just

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<v Speaker 1>like dandelions in our yard, we have no knowledge of

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<v Speaker 1>some of these medicinal weeds that you know that grow

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<v Speaker 1>out here that God has given us. You know, His

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<v Speaker 1>whole system is perfect, and the only thing that we

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<v Speaker 1>can do is seem seemingly muck it up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and we don't ever utilize it. We and we put

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<v Speaker 1>our faith in man. And if you read the Bible,

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<v Speaker 1>you can just see that putting your faith in man's

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<v Speaker 3>In my opinion, and I quote that often Psalms one

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen eight. Just put your trust in God, not in

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<v Speaker 3>not so much in man. And then again I tend

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<v Speaker 3>to speak specifically about, you know, pharmaceuticals, because the medical

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<v Speaker 3>industry has done some amazing things, you know, especially the

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<v Speaker 3>things I've seen in combat. But the pharmaceutical is a

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<v Speaker 3>very dark and evil. The emails I get are just

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<v Speaker 3>incredible that the things how it is just decimated people's lives.

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<v Speaker 3>One more thing I wanted to mentioned before we kind

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<v Speaker 3>of get under the flat earth trail is you had

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned you said you were in like the eighth grade

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<v Speaker 3>when the Columbia disaster happened, and we.

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<v Speaker 1>In the eighth grade when September eleventh happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, when September eleventh happened. Okay, so you would have

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<v Speaker 3>been in the tenth grade. Yeah, so you guys in

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<v Speaker 3>your school you watched that happen as well, And that

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<v Speaker 3>had to for an eighth grader, for someone who was

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<v Speaker 3>probably twelve or thirteen, that had to have a tremendous

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<v Speaker 3>effect on your psyche.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, what And that's something that's something that really

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<v Speaker 1>started thinking about it. I guess the Afghanistan withdrawal, you

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<v Speaker 1>know it just the reason I mentioned that earlier is

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<v Speaker 1>just it just put so many thoughts in my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like I just went back and I was

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<v Speaker 1>so mad on September eleventh, two thousand and one. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I was mad. I was scared, just like everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else was. And I was just I was mad at

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<v Speaker 1>like Muslims, Like I was mad at like like why

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<v Speaker 1>did they do this to this? And how did this happen?

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<v Speaker 1>And and like I can't And you know, there was

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<v Speaker 1>so much propaganda coming out, like you know, we got

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<v Speaker 1>to go get them, go get them, like suit up

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. People were enlisting, you know, they were they

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<v Speaker 1>were standing out in front of enlistment centers wrapped around

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<v Speaker 1>the building. I just in my little town. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I remember seeing all this kind of stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and so many of my classmates as soon as we

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<v Speaker 1>you know, several years later, they were still they enlisted.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it changed people's lives, you know, it put it

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<v Speaker 1>like those Middle Eastern countries and then and like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>when we pulled out and we're sitting here having these

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<v Speaker 1>Like why how did this? Uh? You know, but I

423
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<v Speaker 1>got to thinking about where that hate come from? Like

424
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<v Speaker 1>where did it? It was? It was literally television and

425
00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:19.640
<v Speaker 1>media constantly bombarding me. Was like, you know, it's the Muslims,

426
00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>It's it's a terrorist. It's a terrorist. It's the Middle Easter,

427
00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>n Middle Eastern terror and it and it never and

428
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<v Speaker 1>it kind of it just put this hatred in me.

429
00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:29.039
<v Speaker 1>And I feel so ashamed that I have that, or

430
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<v Speaker 1>I had that, you know, even especially at a young age.

431
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:34.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, I was fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old, you know,

432
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<v Speaker 1>after that incidant and I mean it's like I could

433
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<v Speaker 1>have like just seen a Muslim and I would just

434
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<v Speaker 1>give them the side eye, you know, and just just

435
00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:46.559
<v Speaker 1>had this almost like a hatred for him, you know.

436
00:25:46.599 --> 00:25:49.240
<v Speaker 1>And I and I'm ashamed of that now, but it

437
00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:52.359
<v Speaker 1>was just just thinking back on how much I was propagandized,

438
00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:55.240
<v Speaker 1>and I just think how much we all were propagandized

439
00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:58.200
<v Speaker 1>at that time to hate somebody that probably didn't have

440
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<v Speaker 1>anything to do, you know what I'm saying, especially the

441
00:26:01.160 --> 00:26:03.359
<v Speaker 1>more that comes out. And then, like I said, we

442
00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:06.240
<v Speaker 1>were just it just seems like they wanted it to happen.

443
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<v Speaker 1>So that's sorry for Spiel.

444
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<v Speaker 3>No, No, that's a lot of people feel that way.

445
00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:15.839
<v Speaker 3>And I was in Hawaii for nine to eleven and

446
00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:17.559
<v Speaker 3>we moved the next month. So I was in the

447
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:21.559
<v Speaker 3>airport about the third week of October two thousand and one,

448
00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:25.599
<v Speaker 3>and things were still kind of dicey, you know, people

449
00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:28.799
<v Speaker 3>were still on edge, and I vividly recall them. My

450
00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:32.920
<v Speaker 3>wife and I talk about this often. The few Muslims

451
00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:35.279
<v Speaker 3>that were there, they just looked petrified because everybody was

452
00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:38.200
<v Speaker 3>burning holes through them looking at them. And if you know,

453
00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:40.119
<v Speaker 3>one came on our plane and you would have thought

454
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<v Speaker 3>that person was Satan. Himself by the way everyone looked

455
00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:46.440
<v Speaker 3>at them. But that was the that was the goal,

456
00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:50.799
<v Speaker 3>that was one of the outcomes that they wanted that

457
00:26:50.839 --> 00:26:53.880
<v Speaker 3>they wanted us to. It's always bad, you know, man,

458
00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:57.319
<v Speaker 3>with turb and bad right that that is, that is

459
00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:00.440
<v Speaker 3>the angle that they play. So when we do finally

460
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:03.759
<v Speaker 3>get around to bombing Iran, everyone here in the States

461
00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:07.279
<v Speaker 3>will just accept it. Well, they're bad, they're evil. But

462
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:10.079
<v Speaker 3>but you look at all the countries that they've attacked

463
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:12.720
<v Speaker 3>over the last hundred years against all the countries that

464
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:18.079
<v Speaker 3>we've attacked over the last hundred years. It takes a

465
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:20.920
<v Speaker 3>lot of reprogramming to be able to look at things

466
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<v Speaker 3>like that. But if we need to ever make progress

467
00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:28.799
<v Speaker 3>and really become a nation that follows Christ, we need

468
00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:31.519
<v Speaker 3>to really evaluate these type of things.

469
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, It's like I said, I just that that

470
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<v Speaker 1>eight that come in me. I just I'm so ashamed

471
00:27:46.279 --> 00:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>of that now. But like I'm looking back on it, it

472
00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:51.640
<v Speaker 1>was hard not to have it, you know. I Mean

473
00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:56.279
<v Speaker 1>we've seen people jumping from from buildings, you know, one

474
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<v Speaker 1>hundred stories up or eighty stores up, whatever it was,

475
00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:01.720
<v Speaker 1>and just the whole event, you know, and then it

476
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:04.440
<v Speaker 1>seems like what was interesting to me too, Like, looking

477
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:09.440
<v Speaker 1>back on it, it's like about twenty twelve, Barack Obama's

478
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:12.319
<v Speaker 1>presidency or whatever, it just seemed like there was a

479
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:15.039
<v Speaker 1>lot more of a movement to get out of it.

480
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:16.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, It's like, Okay, we're done with this, let's

481
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.119
<v Speaker 1>wash our hands with this, let's get out of Iraq

482
00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:22.720
<v Speaker 1>and everything. Not that they necessarily really did, but there

483
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:25.440
<v Speaker 1>was just a lot more media attention on it that

484
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:28.319
<v Speaker 1>was kind of negative, and movies were coming out about

485
00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:32.799
<v Speaker 1>how the war and how traumatic it is, and it

486
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:34.559
<v Speaker 1>just seemed like they were done and they were wanting

487
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:39.000
<v Speaker 1>to get out. And I don't know, but they still

488
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<v Speaker 1>stayed in there until twenty one or twenty twenty two

489
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<v Speaker 1>or whatever that was.

490
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And then I can assure you that we still

491
00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:48.759
<v Speaker 3>have troops in Iraq, we still have troops in Syria

492
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:51.839
<v Speaker 3>guarding the kind of oil fields, and I can bet

493
00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:54.440
<v Speaker 3>you that we have some type of presence in Afghanistan

494
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:55.759
<v Speaker 3>somewhere for sure.

495
00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure.

496
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<v Speaker 3>Where was I going to go next? I just had

497
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:02.960
<v Speaker 3>my notes in front of me. I wanted to get

498
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:06.680
<v Speaker 3>back to Flatter. You had mentioned your silver bullets. You

499
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:08.759
<v Speaker 3>said that you've been a flatter earther for about two

500
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:12.319
<v Speaker 3>to three years. By the way, I went to we

501
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.359
<v Speaker 3>have a local an egg store, agriculture store where we

502
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:17.599
<v Speaker 3>get our chicken feed and or straw and things like that.

503
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:19.440
<v Speaker 3>But in the front part of the store they have

504
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:23.319
<v Speaker 3>like antiques. A lot of Mennonites work there, and they

505
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:27.559
<v Speaker 3>had a globe, a small globe, and yeah, I picked

506
00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:30.680
<v Speaker 3>it up, and sure enough, on the very bottom this

507
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:35.839
<v Speaker 3>is for decorative purposes and not for educational purposes. And

508
00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:39.519
<v Speaker 3>I showed my wife and we just laughed. But you said,

509
00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:42.680
<v Speaker 3>for you the fact that the globe was already designed

510
00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:47.119
<v Speaker 3>and displayed on television decades before space travel.

511
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, man, like during like ever black.

512
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<v Speaker 1>And white movie you know, has that the spinning or

513
00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:02.720
<v Speaker 1>not everyone, but I think it's universal they have the globe.

514
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:06.759
<v Speaker 1>And I've always kind of that always kind of shot me,

515
00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:09.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, because it was just like, well, how did

516
00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:12.440
<v Speaker 1>they really know that before space travel? I guess they're

517
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:16.799
<v Speaker 1>just good at making maps, I guess, but it just

518
00:30:16.920 --> 00:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of one of them things that would stick, you know.

519
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:21.319
<v Speaker 1>I never really put two and two together, never thought

520
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:24.200
<v Speaker 1>of but it did kind of hit me the wrong

521
00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:26.680
<v Speaker 1>way that how when somebody in the nineteen twenties even

522
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:30.799
<v Speaker 1>like or nineteen thirties, nineteen forties even depict a globe,

523
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:34.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, because like they have no concept. You haven't

524
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>been up there, you don't have satellites, you don't you know.

525
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:40.079
<v Speaker 1>It was just one of them things that kind of

526
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:41.759
<v Speaker 1>stuck in my mind. And then so when all this

527
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>like flat Earth would start, you know, coming up and

528
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>start talking about NASA, and I don't necessarily know what

529
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:58.559
<v Speaker 1>really like made me a flat earther, And it was it.

530
00:30:58.480 --> 00:30:59.559
<v Speaker 6>Was kind of like the media.

531
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<v Speaker 1>It was just kind of like not in movies and

532
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:06.440
<v Speaker 1>and just realizing that all of that was kind of fake,

533
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>you know. And and it's like if they faked all

534
00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:14.200
<v Speaker 1>of the the movies and they fake and they faked

535
00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>the globe and they already had it designed, and it

536
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:19.960
<v Speaker 1>was such a it was just such a powerful thing

537
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:24.400
<v Speaker 1>to me to realize that there's no such thing as

538
00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:28.680
<v Speaker 1>like free entertainment or free you know, journalism or media.

539
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:32.319
<v Speaker 1>It's all kind of based on uh, like these higher

540
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:39.160
<v Speaker 1>up elite education and stuff based off of NASA, based

541
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>off of you know, I'm probably not making much sense,

542
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:47.519
<v Speaker 1>but it was just it all kind of it all

543
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:49.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of come together for me when I realized that,

544
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:53.039
<v Speaker 1>like all media is fake basically.

545
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:55.960
<v Speaker 3>No, I think you're you're you're spot on, and many

546
00:31:56.039 --> 00:32:00.839
<v Speaker 3>people come to to the to the flat earth that

547
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:02.920
<v Speaker 3>same route. It's like, well, if this is a lie,

548
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:05.160
<v Speaker 3>and that's a lie, and that's a lie, well then

549
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:06.960
<v Speaker 3>why would this be the one exception?

550
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? It and like I've heard you mentioned a lot

551
00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:16.359
<v Speaker 1>of times that you know, you were like for two weeks,

552
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:19.519
<v Speaker 1>you were kind of distraught or whatever when you realize

553
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:21.359
<v Speaker 1>that the Earth was flat. It was just kind of

554
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:24.119
<v Speaker 1>I think I was more distraught when I realized, like

555
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:27.440
<v Speaker 1>every single whether it's a children's movie that I grew

556
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:31.079
<v Speaker 1>up watching in the nineties or whether it was you know,

557
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:35.400
<v Speaker 1>any movie, it's just it has some type of agenda

558
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:39.359
<v Speaker 1>that tries to bring you away from God. One of

559
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:43.200
<v Speaker 1>the biggest movies that I kind of remember that when

560
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:46.559
<v Speaker 1>this realization hit was it was a Leam Neeson movie

561
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:49.799
<v Speaker 1>in like twenty eleven, I think it was The Gray,

562
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>and it was very it was like a the whole

563
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:58.000
<v Speaker 1>movie was just about being an atheist and like just

564
00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:00.880
<v Speaker 1>trying to take God out of the equation. And I

565
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:03.079
<v Speaker 1>wound up watching the watching it. We went to the

566
00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>movie theaters and watching Me a Wife, and I just

567
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:10.079
<v Speaker 1>left feeling kind of like having so many questions, like

568
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:12.599
<v Speaker 1>why did they spend millions of dollars on this movie?

569
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:15.079
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was like a survival movie, like a

570
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the guy was the guy. It's like a he's plane

571
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>crashes in the Arctic somewhere in an old rig. It

572
00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:28.559
<v Speaker 1>crashes in the in the middle of the wilderness, and

573
00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:32.480
<v Speaker 1>he has to you know, get back to civilization or whatever.

574
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:35.960
<v Speaker 1>But he wounds up dying and like blaming God or

575
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:40.319
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. And it was just a horrible movie.

576
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:44.519
<v Speaker 1>And and it just really kind of hit me, and

577
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I was just wondering, like why would they spend so

578
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:50.079
<v Speaker 1>much time and money and effort like just just trashing

579
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>on Christianity or God, you know. And then that kind

580
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:56.759
<v Speaker 1>of and that's like I said, this is twenty eleven

581
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>and ever since then, it was just like every single movie,

582
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:04.799
<v Speaker 1>whether it's a children's movie, whether it's a action a drama,

583
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:07.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like trying to take God out of the equation.

584
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:12.880
<v Speaker 1>It's all about man, it's all about our accomplishments, and

585
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:17.199
<v Speaker 1>and like and then and then it's about you know

586
00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>that That's just what it seems like to me, and

587
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:24.079
<v Speaker 1>and that's kind of what some of that stuff just

588
00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:28.119
<v Speaker 1>kind of started waking me up. Just there constant trying

589
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:31.840
<v Speaker 1>to hide or separate you from God.

590
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:35.480
<v Speaker 6>So sorry to ramble, no, that's whenever you want.

591
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:41.280
<v Speaker 3>No, you're well said. I was listening intently because that movie,

592
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:44.800
<v Speaker 3>you're right, it pushes atheism and it's God's fault for

593
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:47.480
<v Speaker 3>for things, you know, bad things that happen in our lives.

594
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:50.360
<v Speaker 3>But really Scott was involved with that, and he's an

595
00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:54.360
<v Speaker 3>outspoken atheist and that's the reason he also was a

596
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:57.599
<v Speaker 3>I think he did The Blade Runner too. Uh he

597
00:34:57.599 --> 00:35:00.079
<v Speaker 3>he claims that he was. You know, he was a

598
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.960
<v Speaker 3>big fan of HG. Wells and other scientism guy. All

599
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:06.920
<v Speaker 3>these people are part of the club. He's considered royalty

600
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.440
<v Speaker 3>in England. And if you know what those folks are

601
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:12.440
<v Speaker 3>all about it shouldn't surprise people that most of the

602
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:17.079
<v Speaker 3>propaganda that is pushed in Hollywood is anti Christ. Now

603
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:19.199
<v Speaker 3>they don't come out and say it, it's not part

604
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:21.480
<v Speaker 3>of the title. But if you take time and on

605
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:25.000
<v Speaker 3>dissect a movie, not ninety percent of the movies that

606
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:28.840
<v Speaker 3>come out and post twenty twenty, the movie industry isn't

607
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:31.320
<v Speaker 3>quite what it used to be. I think they have

608
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:34.159
<v Speaker 3>to do a lot of their messaging through controlled social

609
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:40.199
<v Speaker 3>media and YouTubers, because you know, every weekend blockbusters used

610
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:40.599
<v Speaker 3>to come out.

611
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I have.

612
00:35:41.079 --> 00:35:42.920
<v Speaker 3>I think I've been to one movie in five years.

613
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:48.639
<v Speaker 3>But they do push very subtly their agendas through movies,

614
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:52.679
<v Speaker 3>whether it's like you said, the What's what was it

615
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:56.400
<v Speaker 3>called the Wolf, the Gray Wolf, the Gray? The Gray?

616
00:35:56.480 --> 00:36:01.519
<v Speaker 3>That's right, the Gray William Neeson's movie, or science fiction

617
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:05.480
<v Speaker 3>with the Star Wars series, or germ theory like Contagion.

618
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.920
<v Speaker 3>So all these things are used, going full circle back

619
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:11.679
<v Speaker 3>to Edward Burnet's to control the mind.

620
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that may seem people listening may think like, well,

621
00:36:18.800 --> 00:36:20.960
<v Speaker 1>how does this even pertain to flat Earth. It's just

622
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:25.159
<v Speaker 1>it just started me down a path of just realizing

623
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:28.159
<v Speaker 1>that literally, they're so good at making these movies, they're

624
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>so good at realism, and it's like it just made

625
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:38.559
<v Speaker 1>sense when it was just a perfect Why wouldn't you.

626
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:43.280
<v Speaker 6>Fake a moon landing? Why wouldn't you fate that the.

627
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:46.199
<v Speaker 1>World is it's flat? I mean, like, it's how they

628
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:49.440
<v Speaker 1>govern us, it's how they they based all Like I said,

629
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:50.920
<v Speaker 1>they based all of the education.

630
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:56.239
<v Speaker 6>They based all of their governance like off of these.

631
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<v Speaker 1>Few beliefs or whatever that and it's like that that's

632
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<v Speaker 1>the one thing that like basically everybody on earth shares.

633
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:04.440
<v Speaker 6>Is like, oh yeah, that we live on a globe.

634
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:08.199
<v Speaker 6>You know, the Earth is a globe. Like that's the.

635
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:12.599
<v Speaker 1>One thing that most governments are all governments except you know,

636
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:14.599
<v Speaker 1>and and and it's how do they push that. It's

637
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>like through movies, through all these realistic movies, and through

638
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:22.039
<v Speaker 1>all these news broadcasts, through through the I don't know

639
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:24.400
<v Speaker 1>how to say it, but through the media, you know.

640
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:27.840
<v Speaker 1>And so much of our education is based off of

641
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:31.719
<v Speaker 1>like the media. That's from going all the way back

642
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:36.159
<v Speaker 1>to to to to the turn of the centive to

643
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the turn of the twentieth century. You know, it's like

644
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:41.360
<v Speaker 1>all these people in higher education, you know, how do

645
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:46.039
<v Speaker 1>they just push the their their narrative onto everybody that

646
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:49.639
<v Speaker 1>then turned around and it and taught it to us.

647
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:51.880
<v Speaker 1>They pushed their narrative to the people in higher education

648
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.440
<v Speaker 1>at that time, and then they taught it to us, uh,

649
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:59.039
<v Speaker 1>down through the down through the years. So I don't know,

650
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm on a link that that that's where

651
00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:05.440
<v Speaker 1>it got me I guess, And that's where I believe

652
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:09.079
<v Speaker 1>that it's it's how they how they're able to not

653
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:10.760
<v Speaker 1>necessarily I don't want to say pull it off, but

654
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:15.639
<v Speaker 1>how they pull it over my eyes, I guess, you know.

655
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:18.440
<v Speaker 1>And then when I just I think, I think the

656
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:21.599
<v Speaker 1>Lord really just kind of revealed it to me one day.

657
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:22.719
<v Speaker 6>I don't know how else.

658
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it just it just felt like a a

659
00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:28.920
<v Speaker 1>veil will come down. I think, like I said after

660
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:32.880
<v Speaker 1>that movie, kind of it's like everything that they everything

661
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>that the media, everything that educates, like higher education, it's

662
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:39.519
<v Speaker 1>all based off of just a certain set of facts

663
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:43.840
<v Speaker 1>and and like they are the arbiters of those facts basically,

664
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>and and they're the only way that we get to

665
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:49.639
<v Speaker 1>learn anything other than the Bible, you know, So the

666
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:52.519
<v Speaker 1>truth out there, it's in the Bible. We just don't

667
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:59.079
<v Speaker 1>get to to we're not in higher education. We're not

668
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:02.360
<v Speaker 1>we're not the the heads of these major colleges, these

669
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:07.760
<v Speaker 1>these heads of these major media companies and stuff like that.

670
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:11.480
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, Yeah, that was the biggest coup was when

671
00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:14.440
<v Speaker 3>the federal government hijacked the Department of Education, because then

672
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:19.000
<v Speaker 3>they controlled history, they controlled the narrative and the teacher's job.

673
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:22.719
<v Speaker 3>People don't know the textbooks only come was it ninety

674
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:26.000
<v Speaker 3>five percent of the textbooks come from two companies, That's

675
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:28.880
<v Speaker 3>what I think. It's Pearson and McGraw hill. And if

676
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:33.639
<v Speaker 3>you take the time to research both Gislaine Maxwell's father

677
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:37.320
<v Speaker 3>and then the guy who ran Apollo Management, I think

678
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:40.079
<v Speaker 3>his name was Leon Black. These both you know, they

679
00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:42.599
<v Speaker 3>both had direct connections to people like Jeffrey Epstein. And

680
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:44.599
<v Speaker 3>these are the people who are writing our history books.

681
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:47.679
<v Speaker 3>If that doesn't raise your eyebrows, I don't know what will.

682
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:52.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And and I kind of I kind of view

683
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:56.400
<v Speaker 1>that like the same people like you're talking about McGraw

684
00:39:56.519 --> 00:40:01.199
<v Speaker 1>hill and or all these families and all these higher

685
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:02.880
<v Speaker 1>ups or whatever you want to call them. I think

686
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>that they're it's very well known in my opinion, or

687
00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I feel very confident in saying that they're the ones

688
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:12.760
<v Speaker 1>that probably constructed the Georgia gadstones in some form or fashion.

689
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:16.800
<v Speaker 1>And and they're and they're the ones. They're probably the

690
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:21.199
<v Speaker 1>same ones that orchestrated like World War One and probably

691
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>even World War two and all that, and and and

692
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that that's what they're doing, is they're just

693
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:32.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of managing us and as cattle in a sense,

694
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:36.679
<v Speaker 1>and as bad as that sounds, and uh, and they're

695
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:38.719
<v Speaker 1>all one and the same. I think it's what I'm

696
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:42.079
<v Speaker 1>trying to get at, you know. Uh, I don't know how,

697
00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:43.000
<v Speaker 1>but I.

698
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:43.480
<v Speaker 6>Think that the.

699
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:48.639
<v Speaker 1>Like I think that like World War One was a

700
00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:51.400
<v Speaker 1>was a great reset. Really, I mean, that's kind of

701
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:54.320
<v Speaker 1>what I go back to. I mean, just thinking about

702
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>how many millions of young boys that that took out

703
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:00.679
<v Speaker 1>of the equation and how many like families that that

704
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:05.440
<v Speaker 1>pulled out of like history, you know, or out of

705
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:08.760
<v Speaker 1>the future, if you will, Like they were able to,

706
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:12.119
<v Speaker 1>like we're talking about, kind to kind of take a

707
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:17.079
<v Speaker 1>lot of the large portions of every continence or every

708
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:21.880
<v Speaker 1>society's best and brightest, put them in a ditch and

709
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:24.639
<v Speaker 1>take them out of the equation and then come in

710
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:27.559
<v Speaker 1>with their education system and come in and kind of

711
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:31.559
<v Speaker 1>like rewrite history while everybody is focused on this war

712
00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:34.760
<v Speaker 1>that's happening in Europe. You know, if that makes sense.

713
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:39.079
<v Speaker 3>It makes perfect sense. And when you only have two choices,

714
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:42.199
<v Speaker 3>go to war, go to jail, there's no sunny outcome,

715
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:44.840
<v Speaker 3>and it's it's quite evil when you sit back and

716
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:48.960
<v Speaker 3>think about it, especially and listen, if foreign troops actually

717
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:53.440
<v Speaker 3>came upon our soil, like you know, literally like that

718
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:56.119
<v Speaker 3>movie from nineteen eighty four, right Red Dawn or whatever

719
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:58.880
<v Speaker 3>it was called, everybody's going to band together and fight it.

720
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:03.079
<v Speaker 3>But this continuing thought of well, we have to go

721
00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:07.199
<v Speaker 3>to Vietnam to stike to stop communism, and nothing came

722
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:10.800
<v Speaker 3>about of those poor fifty eight thousand lives, and you know,

723
00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:14.360
<v Speaker 3>insert war here. It is exactly that is, the powers

724
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:22.280
<v Speaker 3>that be literally putting people through the meat grinder. For

725
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.079
<v Speaker 3>lack of a better word. It sounds horrible, but you know,

726
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:28.320
<v Speaker 3>you call a spade of spade, that's exactly what it is.

727
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:34.679
<v Speaker 3>And until people, you know, go back, it's frustrating to me.

728
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:38.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm writing a series right now on sub Stack talking

729
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:43.440
<v Speaker 3>about how, you know, we hold most presidents, we loathe

730
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:47.800
<v Speaker 3>most presidents, to be kind, but we still look upon

731
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:52.679
<v Speaker 3>the founding fathers with smiles. But if you look at

732
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:55.800
<v Speaker 3>little things like the Whiskey Rebellion, which happened just like

733
00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:58.960
<v Speaker 3>one or two years after the founding of this country,

734
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:01.800
<v Speaker 3>it was like seventeen nine, seventeen ninety one, because they

735
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:05.239
<v Speaker 3>already put these huge taxes on the farmers and people

736
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:08.559
<v Speaker 3>think today, well, those are farmers. Back then, over ninety

737
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:11.719
<v Speaker 3>percent of the population was engaged in farming. They didn't

738
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:13.320
<v Speaker 3>go to the seven to eleven, They didn't go to

739
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:16.119
<v Speaker 3>Walmart for their food. They grew their own food. So

740
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:20.199
<v Speaker 3>when they put these taxes on, and they took their

741
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:23.360
<v Speaker 3>leftover grains, right, they took their leftover rye wheat, and

742
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:25.559
<v Speaker 3>they would make whiskey with it. That's how they subsidized

743
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:28.280
<v Speaker 3>their income. So what does Washington do. He puts this

744
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:32.840
<v Speaker 3>huge whiskey tax on all these grains. Hundreds, if not

745
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:35.320
<v Speaker 3>thousands of people in western Pennsylvania said no, we're not

746
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:39.480
<v Speaker 3>paying it. And they rolled in fifteen thousand, fifteen thousand

747
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:42.639
<v Speaker 3>federal troops to get them to pay their taxes. And

748
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:45.079
<v Speaker 3>this is like one or two years afterwards. What they

749
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:48.800
<v Speaker 3>don't tell you what your history books, the history books

750
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:51.119
<v Speaker 3>tells you about the Pilgrims. Are these people who came

751
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:53.280
<v Speaker 3>to America and they broke bread with the Indians and

752
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:56.280
<v Speaker 3>that's why we celebrate Thanksgiving. You know what they don't

753
00:43:56.320 --> 00:44:00.280
<v Speaker 3>tell you about the Pilgrims. They were Puritans who who

754
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:05.199
<v Speaker 3>believed that the British government didn't go far enough with

755
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:09.320
<v Speaker 3>reformations so they came over here, the Protestants and their

756
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:14.199
<v Speaker 3>education system was based around the Bible, and they couldn't

757
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:19.159
<v Speaker 3>have that. And you know, one hundred years later they

758
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:21.679
<v Speaker 3>roll in say, we're going to create a federal government.

759
00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:24.519
<v Speaker 3>We're going to bring you know, bring the colonies together,

760
00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:26.639
<v Speaker 3>We're going to it was basically, we're going to offer

761
00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:32.280
<v Speaker 3>you protection like a mafia, right, And less people were

762
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:35.079
<v Speaker 3>happy about it than the history books tell us if

763
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:38.039
<v Speaker 3>if you do a little research, and you know, as

764
00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:42.119
<v Speaker 3>soon as they signed the Constitution and we became you know,

765
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:44.679
<v Speaker 3>seventeen eighty nine, they started taxing the heck out of

766
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:46.679
<v Speaker 3>people and here we are today.

767
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:51.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and something else about that too, about like the

768
00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Revolutionary War, it was fascinating me. I kind of did

769
00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:58.440
<v Speaker 1>a little research on the Battle of Team's Mountain and

770
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:06.119
<v Speaker 1>had Lyman Draper who was a Wisconsin Historical Society. He

771
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:09.480
<v Speaker 1>was just basically detailing and documenting all this stuff. But

772
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:11.920
<v Speaker 1>what was fascinating to me was like they needed all

773
00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:15.360
<v Speaker 1>these these over mountain men in the Battle of King's

774
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Mountain and they and listened to like I think it

775
00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:25.440
<v Speaker 1>was like twelve hundred men roughly, and they were basically

776
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:28.119
<v Speaker 1>militia or soldiers, and they were promised, you know, all

777
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:30.679
<v Speaker 1>these pensions and benefits, and they a lot of these

778
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:35.639
<v Speaker 1>men were barefooted and were literally in moccasins and stuff

779
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:39.039
<v Speaker 1>like that, and they went over and kind of defeated

780
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:44.519
<v Speaker 1>the General Ferguson on King's Mountain in South Carolina. And

781
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:48.960
<v Speaker 1>what was fascinating about that is that later on, like

782
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:53.079
<v Speaker 1>in the eighteen twenties eighteen teens, these men were trying

783
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:54.880
<v Speaker 1>to get pensions and it was like, now I ain't

784
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:58.360
<v Speaker 1>got no control of you, bro, Like we're out of money,

785
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:00.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, and some of these and then they were

786
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:03.119
<v Speaker 1>just trying to get what they were promised, you know,

787
00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:06.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty years or thirty years beforehand, and there was nothing

788
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:09.800
<v Speaker 1>for them, you know. And that kind of that kind

789
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:11.880
<v Speaker 1>of showed me something too. You know. It's like this

790
00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:14.599
<v Speaker 1>country is not Yeah, we don't get to learn a

791
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:17.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of like true history. And it's like, yeah, they'll

792
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:21.519
<v Speaker 1>it's all patriotism, everything's all good, and like go and

793
00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:25.039
<v Speaker 1>list and go fip for your country, and then we're

794
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:26.960
<v Speaker 1>not going to give you anything when you really need it,

795
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:27.199
<v Speaker 1>you know.

796
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:27.519
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

797
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:29.440
<v Speaker 1>So that was that was kind of a slap in

798
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:31.280
<v Speaker 1>the space kind of and It was kind of a

799
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:34.280
<v Speaker 1>wake up call, kind of when I was researching that,

800
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:34.599
<v Speaker 1>you know.

801
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:41.119
<v Speaker 3>Thought it was interesting THEYE had the Bonus Army, same

802
00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:43.840
<v Speaker 3>thing world War One. They were promised stuff from World

803
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:47.400
<v Speaker 3>War One. They marched on in Washington to DC in

804
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:51.679
<v Speaker 3>nineteen thirty two because they were promised to bonus. They

805
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:54.119
<v Speaker 3>never got it. And all the people who went on

806
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:56.000
<v Speaker 3>to be big names in World War Two were the

807
00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:58.719
<v Speaker 3>ones who were used to dispel them. Paton was one,

808
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:02.599
<v Speaker 3>MacArthur was another. That they they took their troops and

809
00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:08.559
<v Speaker 3>went against world we're one veterans, and it took them

810
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:12.079
<v Speaker 3>another twelve years. They didn't even get there. I think

811
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:14.559
<v Speaker 3>they eventually got them. But I mean, could you imagine

812
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:16.920
<v Speaker 3>going to World War One, si into document, the government

813
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:19.840
<v Speaker 3>promises you something, you don't get it. So finally in

814
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:22.639
<v Speaker 3>thirty two they all get together. They march on DC.

815
00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:26.599
<v Speaker 3>Sounds familiar, doesn't it? A march on DC and they

816
00:47:26.679 --> 00:47:30.639
<v Speaker 3>arrest and kill people. Where does that that rings a bell?

817
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:32.639
<v Speaker 1>It sounds a little bit, sounds a little bit like

818
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:33.440
<v Speaker 1>January sixth.

819
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:37.880
<v Speaker 3>Maybe there you go, you know, and they continually proclaim

820
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.440
<v Speaker 3>that we have the First Amendment, But don't you dare

821
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:46.599
<v Speaker 3>show up and protest that is something. What was when

822
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:49.639
<v Speaker 3>you were researching f Well, I guess what was the

823
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:52.880
<v Speaker 3>one thing that actually got you to look into flat Earth?

824
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:57.880
<v Speaker 1>What I said, Man, I really, I really don't. I

825
00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:02.000
<v Speaker 1>guess it was the moon landing. Like like I just

826
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:04.639
<v Speaker 1>I always kind of questioned the moonlanding.

827
00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:07.199
<v Speaker 6>It didn't make sense to me why.

828
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:10.639
<v Speaker 1>Like we didn't go back, And so I guess space

829
00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:13.639
<v Speaker 1>travel and you know, outer space like kind of coming

830
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:16.719
<v Speaker 1>to that realization and it's like, we don't know what's

831
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:19.880
<v Speaker 1>up there because we've never been up there, you know that.

832
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:20.840
<v Speaker 6>And I don't know.

833
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:25.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how that that led into flat Earth.

834
00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:27.360
<v Speaker 1>It just just the lie of the fact that we

835
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:30.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't go it always kind of shot me, you know,

836
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:34.400
<v Speaker 1>like that seemed a little bit like the Pilgrims coming

837
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:37.079
<v Speaker 1>to Plymouth Rock and planting a flag and then being like, well,

838
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:39.679
<v Speaker 1>we'll see you and head on back to Holland and

839
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:43.119
<v Speaker 1>never come back. You know, like we went up there

840
00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:46.679
<v Speaker 1>to the Moon in the nineteen sixties and we can't

841
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:49.239
<v Speaker 1>get back now, like but yet, but yet we're going

842
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:51.880
<v Speaker 1>to Mars. You know, settle up, guys, We're going to Mars.

843
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:55.400
<v Speaker 1>It's like we hadn't even we hadn't even stopped back

844
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:57.400
<v Speaker 1>at the moon yet, you know, it's like, why, why

845
00:48:57.400 --> 00:49:00.920
<v Speaker 1>are so that kind of let it down to me,

846
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:03.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, And I just, I guess just to all

847
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:06.840
<v Speaker 1>the deception around the moon landing is what really opened

848
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:07.639
<v Speaker 1>my eyes to it.

849
00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Did you research YouTube videos or was there certain websites

850
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:16.039
<v Speaker 3>that provided evidence to you that really put you over?

851
00:49:18.519 --> 00:49:21.360
<v Speaker 1>No, And that's something that like I say, God, I

852
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:23.840
<v Speaker 1>think really just had a hand in it, because I

853
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:28.119
<v Speaker 1>just I just kind of hearing. I guess there were

854
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:30.599
<v Speaker 1>some videos, but I don't really have anything to point

855
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:34.039
<v Speaker 1>you to the fact that, like I'm sitting here, me

856
00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:36.480
<v Speaker 1>and my buddy kind of collect a lot of historical

857
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of national geographics from like the

858
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:42.400
<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenties and thirties, and I have the August eighth,

859
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:45.920
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty nine Live Magazine and it's the cover of

860
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:51.639
<v Speaker 1>the moon, you know, the moon landing. And I just

861
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:54.320
<v Speaker 1>always looked at those pictures, and I always looked and

862
00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:59.719
<v Speaker 1>thought like how that was even possible, and like why

863
00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:03.880
<v Speaker 1>we and go back? So like if I guess you've

864
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:07.199
<v Speaker 1>mentioned it before, I think about how we had so

865
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:11.639
<v Speaker 1>much little, like we didn't have as much technology back

866
00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:15.159
<v Speaker 1>then as we do now. Like we the computer that

867
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:17.960
<v Speaker 1>that we're talking on is literally it fits in our pocket.

868
00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Yet Neil Armstrong would say that, you know, it took

869
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:24.239
<v Speaker 1>a room, a giant room full of computers to do

870
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:25.880
<v Speaker 1>what they did or something like that. You know what

871
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying.

872
00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:32.159
<v Speaker 8>And it's just always kind of what what I guess, Yeah,

873
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:37.000
<v Speaker 8>like some movies and some some YouTube things like videos

874
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:38.880
<v Speaker 8>and stuff that I can't really point you to anything

875
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:40.159
<v Speaker 8>that other than the.

876
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:44.199
<v Speaker 1>Pictures that were given in school, other than just thinking

877
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:47.920
<v Speaker 1>to myself that it was impossible in a sense and

878
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:50.119
<v Speaker 1>that we never went back, you know, like that that

879
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:52.000
<v Speaker 1>was my biggest sticking point.

880
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:57.519
<v Speaker 3>Really when you were in school and the concept of

881
00:50:57.559 --> 00:50:59.800
<v Speaker 3>the globe was presented to you as a student, was

882
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:02.920
<v Speaker 3>that something you ever were like, hmm, that's interesting.

883
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:07.199
<v Speaker 1>No, I I kind of I probably just accepted that.

884
00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:11.679
<v Speaker 1>I just I didn't. I mean I always had like

885
00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:16.760
<v Speaker 1>things that I wondered about, like comparing it to the Bible.

886
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:21.480
<v Speaker 1>That always kind of kind of like I was wondering

887
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:23.360
<v Speaker 1>where God was at you know, it's like was in

888
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:27.360
<v Speaker 1>space or where how did how does this work? In relationships?

889
00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:30.039
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I grew up in just a Baptist

890
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:32.199
<v Speaker 1>church down here in the South, and I mean it's

891
00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:34.880
<v Speaker 1>never talked about in our churches or anything like that,

892
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:42.159
<v Speaker 1>and and I wondered about how it all worked, and

893
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:47.119
<v Speaker 1>so there was those questions around that. But no, I

894
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:50.000
<v Speaker 1>mean nothing really that I can point you to specifically

895
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:55.960
<v Speaker 1>that you know, as far as like the globe or

896
00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:58.400
<v Speaker 1>anything like that. I guess I just accepted it is

897
00:51:58.440 --> 00:51:59.880
<v Speaker 1>for what I was taught.

898
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:03.599
<v Speaker 3>You know, have you have you ever had this conversation

899
00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:05.599
<v Speaker 3>with a fellow church member.

900
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:11.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean yeah, but fellow church members being like

901
00:52:11.719 --> 00:52:15.039
<v Speaker 1>my my, my dad and my brothers and stuff, and

902
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.920
<v Speaker 1>we're all kind of my dad, don't you know, he

903
00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:20.639
<v Speaker 1>don't think it matters one way or the other. And uh,

904
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:24.280
<v Speaker 1>my my brothers were all kind of on the same page.

905
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:28.000
<v Speaker 1>But not as far as outside of my family, No,

906
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I haven't really, you know, my wife and and.

907
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:36.199
<v Speaker 6>Some some friends.

908
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I have a my friend that I'm telling you about

909
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:43.360
<v Speaker 1>that we collect historical stuff, uh that War two Memorabilian stuff.

910
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:45.960
<v Speaker 1>He's actually a I don't know what you call, like

911
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:50.199
<v Speaker 1>a small single engine pilot or whatever you call that.

912
00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:55.760
<v Speaker 1>My assistance around stuff I've mentioned him, and I got

913
00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:59.880
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of raised eyebrows from him, you know,

914
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:03.119
<v Speaker 1>But I did make him think about like the moon

915
00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:06.199
<v Speaker 1>landing and all that other stuff. But he's he's kind

916
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:11.320
<v Speaker 1>of sold on this aviation, and I think it's a

917
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:15.280
<v Speaker 1>hard circle to break out of. I think it is

918
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:15.920
<v Speaker 1>in some people.

919
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:20.079
<v Speaker 3>It is. You know, for me, it's been easier since

920
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:23.639
<v Speaker 3>I've turned off the television. I mean, I'll still go

921
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:29.440
<v Speaker 3>back and watch a movie or something. But the biggest medicine,

922
00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:32.960
<v Speaker 3>I guess, the best elixir that I've had for my

923
00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:36.360
<v Speaker 3>brain was to stop watching the news because back in

924
00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:40.880
<v Speaker 3>the you know, the teens, the twenty fifteens and sixteens,

925
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:43.960
<v Speaker 3>especially when it was Clinton and Trump, you know, the

926
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:46.800
<v Speaker 3>most evil, vile woman in the world, and Trump was

927
00:53:46.840 --> 00:53:49.280
<v Speaker 3>going to be our hero. I mean, I was consuming

928
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:52.840
<v Speaker 3>Fox News all day and all night. And I had

929
00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:55.280
<v Speaker 3>a small bit. I had a retail store, I was

930
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:57.480
<v Speaker 3>working seventy hours a week, so I always had that

931
00:53:57.599 --> 00:54:01.119
<v Speaker 3>on watching and you know, we were hoping and praying

932
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:03.760
<v Speaker 3>that he was going to save the world. But by

933
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:07.840
<v Speaker 3>turning off the news, I can't begin to tell people

934
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:11.159
<v Speaker 3>how much clearer the mind becomes.

935
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have to agree with that man, like I

936
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:19.559
<v Speaker 1>kind of the same way. I well, I'll just say,

937
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:23.760
<v Speaker 1>like around twenty twelve, you know, Brock Obama and all that,

938
00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:29.320
<v Speaker 1>I got real scared about the Second Amendment, you know,

939
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:32.199
<v Speaker 1>like I was telling you, kind of just hearing more

940
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:36.519
<v Speaker 1>in politics and stuff like that. Was just had my son,

941
00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:39.960
<v Speaker 1>and so I was kind of getting concerned about his future.

942
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:41.880
<v Speaker 1>And because I didn't pay attention, I didn't care one

943
00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:45.280
<v Speaker 1>way or the other as far as politics goes. Before that, really,

944
00:54:47.239 --> 00:54:49.559
<v Speaker 1>I just you know, like I said, I was kind

945
00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:52.199
<v Speaker 1>of I was patriotic. I hated what happened to our

946
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:57.320
<v Speaker 1>country on September eleventh, but like I didn't care about politics.

947
00:54:57.360 --> 00:55:01.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even vote. But like when my wife got pregnant,

948
00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:08.239
<v Speaker 1>and uh, I in twenty eleven, twenty twelve, I think

949
00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:12.079
<v Speaker 1>that was the first election I ever participated in was

950
00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Barack Obama. You know, it was coming out like he's

951
00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:17.079
<v Speaker 1>against guns, he's against all this kind of stuff, and

952
00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:20.559
<v Speaker 1>that kind of got me more into politics. And then

953
00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:24.280
<v Speaker 1>started listening to people like Russe Limbaugh and stuff like that.

954
00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:29.360
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, twenty fifteen, you know, I was

955
00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:33.519
<v Speaker 1>all red, white and blue and got to stop, Like

956
00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:36.360
<v Speaker 1>you said, stop, Hillary and and getting let myself get

957
00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:39.440
<v Speaker 1>worked up with all this politics and uh and.

958
00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:42.400
<v Speaker 6>All that, and it just then.

959
00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:45.639
<v Speaker 1>He got in there and I was glad and everything,

960
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:48.119
<v Speaker 1>and he just I don't understand why he didn't like

961
00:55:48.119 --> 00:55:51.199
<v Speaker 1>to repeal the NFA or the ATF or build a

962
00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:55.199
<v Speaker 1>wall or so that kind of sent me down, you know.

963
00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I started kind of thinking, like, what the heck, just

964
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:00.559
<v Speaker 1>why didn't he just do this when he had the time.

965
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:07.719
<v Speaker 1>And and then really, like I said, Afghanistan withdraw.

966
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:08.719
<v Speaker 6>But I guess going back.

967
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Before that, it was the election of Joe Biden. I mean,

968
00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:15.639
<v Speaker 1>here's eighty one million votes for a man that cannot

969
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:18.039
<v Speaker 1>even spell his own name. I mean, like he don't

970
00:56:18.039 --> 00:56:20.639
<v Speaker 1>know where he's at, and he don't and it's like

971
00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:28.360
<v Speaker 1>it's like, yeah, uh, it's flat, theres is flat.

972
00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:29.239
<v Speaker 6>Everything's fake.

973
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:32.480
<v Speaker 1>You know though, that that was just my kind of

974
00:56:33.039 --> 00:56:33.920
<v Speaker 1>where it comes from.

975
00:56:33.960 --> 00:56:35.440
<v Speaker 6>I guess if.

976
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:38.159
<v Speaker 3>We could get if we could break the matrix and

977
00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:43.400
<v Speaker 3>put proof out there and get people to believe that,

978
00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:47.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, in biblical cosmology and that heliocentrism is a lie,

979
00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:51.400
<v Speaker 3>what kind of lasting effects do you think that would

980
00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:55.480
<v Speaker 3>have on this world?

981
00:56:56.679 --> 00:57:00.519
<v Speaker 1>Well, first, I think that that would probably like completely

982
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:05.400
<v Speaker 1>and utterly destroyed, like all I mean breaking the matrix.

983
00:57:05.440 --> 00:57:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess that that's in itself, that's what

984
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:10.519
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about. But it will destroy like all major

985
00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:15.360
<v Speaker 1>governments and ruling elites, I guess you would say, uh,

986
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:18.679
<v Speaker 1>and which I think would probably be a good thing.

987
00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:22.039
<v Speaker 1>Not that I am not advocating for anything like that.

988
00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, like, I think that that's what breaking

989
00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:29.800
<v Speaker 1>the matrix will do, and I think that we would.

990
00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I think that that's probably where like.

991
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:36.000
<v Speaker 6>Having the freedom and liberty.

992
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:38.360
<v Speaker 1>To just live and exist and like doing away with

993
00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:41.360
<v Speaker 1>like you're talking about the pharmaceutical companies and and like

994
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:46.000
<v Speaker 1>the these higher educations that kind of keep us boxed in. Uh.

995
00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I think that that's where we would start developing

996
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:56.440
<v Speaker 1>free energy or you know, and start building like cathedrals again,

997
00:57:56.800 --> 00:58:01.639
<v Speaker 1>and you know, like beauty and peace would probably raining

998
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess for a little while. But I don't think

999
00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:07.360
<v Speaker 1>that that's ever going to happen. But I kind of,

1000
00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:11.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, I kind of think that that that may

1001
00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:13.119
<v Speaker 1>have been where some of these cathedrals and some of

1002
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:15.719
<v Speaker 1>these large buildings kind of come from, is a time

1003
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:18.559
<v Speaker 1>when we didn't have when we were trusting in God

1004
00:58:18.679 --> 00:58:21.639
<v Speaker 1>more than we were trusting in h in governments and

1005
00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:30.119
<v Speaker 1>this false education that we've learned. So I don't know

1006
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:31.920
<v Speaker 1>if I answered your question or not, but like.

1007
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:37.199
<v Speaker 3>No, you're spot on one hundred percent. And you mentioned freedom,

1008
00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:44.239
<v Speaker 3>and I wrote in my in my article that people

1009
00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:47.599
<v Speaker 3>demand freedom, people call for freedom, but I'm not one

1010
00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:52.400
<v Speaker 3>hundred percent sure that that people understand that it's actually

1011
00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:56.559
<v Speaker 3>a burden, not not to have everything handed to you.

1012
00:58:57.559 --> 00:59:00.639
<v Speaker 3>And I think if people they're a lot of people

1013
00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:03.679
<v Speaker 3>who say I want freedom, but they want government to

1014
00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:06.920
<v Speaker 3>run the same way it's running now. I don't think

1015
00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:09.480
<v Speaker 3>people quite understand that freedom is a burden. And then

1016
00:59:09.559 --> 00:59:11.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, people say they have t shirts, they wear

1017
00:59:11.760 --> 00:59:14.639
<v Speaker 3>the hats that say freedom isn't free, But I don't

1018
00:59:14.639 --> 00:59:18.280
<v Speaker 3>think that they understand the involvement and how it would

1019
00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:21.519
<v Speaker 3>have to bring back community. And that's the way things

1020
00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:24.280
<v Speaker 3>were meant to be. You know, everything was tribal back

1021
00:59:24.320 --> 00:59:26.320
<v Speaker 3>in the day, and communities took care of each other.

1022
00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:31.000
<v Speaker 3>They didn't rely on governments right to provide their income

1023
00:59:31.039 --> 00:59:35.719
<v Speaker 3>when they turned sixty five, they didn't want their government

1024
00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:38.199
<v Speaker 3>to be involved in their health care, and they most

1025
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:42.320
<v Speaker 3>certainly didn't want their government to be involved in the

1026
00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:48.079
<v Speaker 3>teachings of their history and education system, which is again

1027
00:59:48.159 --> 00:59:52.119
<v Speaker 3>going back to the Puritans. Everything was biblically based. I

1028
00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:54.960
<v Speaker 3>can assure you they didn't teach helio Centrism because those

1029
00:59:55.320 --> 01:00:00.519
<v Speaker 3>the folks that left Britain were Protestants. And what is

1030
01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:04.039
<v Speaker 3>a Protestant someone who protests Catholicisms, right, people who were

1031
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:08.159
<v Speaker 3>influenced by Martin Luther, and Martin Luther couldn't stand Copernicus.

1032
01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:13.320
<v Speaker 3>He loathed his thinkings and heliocentrism. So that is one

1033
01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:15.599
<v Speaker 3>of the reasons why they had to hijack education and

1034
01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:18.000
<v Speaker 3>run with it. They had to control the narrative.

1035
01:00:19.960 --> 01:00:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's something too. I mean, it's I don't know,

1036
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:34.039
<v Speaker 1>the very thankful. I probably haven't mentioned it, just rambling around.

1037
01:00:34.039 --> 01:00:38.960
<v Speaker 1>But I'm out of debt, I don't have any i

1038
01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:41.559
<v Speaker 1>don't have any far payments, don't have a house payment.

1039
01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm very thankful. I'm all glory to God in that.

1040
01:00:45.719 --> 01:00:48.920
<v Speaker 1>But like you said, there's still it's a it's a responsibility.

1041
01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:52.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've only got like, I've only got almost

1042
01:00:52.519 --> 01:00:55.599
<v Speaker 1>three acres and like I said, just a few chickens,

1043
01:00:55.599 --> 01:01:00.639
<v Speaker 1>and we we all my wife and I drive older vehicles.

1044
01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:05.519
<v Speaker 1>And I mean, like it's work to you know, maintain

1045
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:09.079
<v Speaker 1>everything you have. And and uh like we're homeschooling our

1046
01:01:09.159 --> 01:01:12.159
<v Speaker 1>children right now. You know. Uh we pulled our children

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<v Speaker 1>out of the public education.

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<v Speaker 6>Even though even though my wife say.

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01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:24.000
<v Speaker 1>She's a teacher. Uh we she she teaches early childhood education,

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01:01:24.320 --> 01:01:30.719
<v Speaker 1>uh K through five and uh but we I quit

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01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:34.679
<v Speaker 1>my job at the at the water Authority, and I

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01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:38.280
<v Speaker 1>just started doing tax narmy, just a little side thing,

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01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:40.639
<v Speaker 1>but like just trying to make my own money, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to trying to break away from Babylon, you know, and

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01:01:43.760 --> 01:01:47.039
<v Speaker 1>uh and have freedom and and and be more responsible

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01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:51.239
<v Speaker 1>for my own self, you know. And like you said,

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01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:54.559
<v Speaker 1>it's people want to talk a good, good game about

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01:01:54.880 --> 01:01:56.880
<v Speaker 1>freedom and liberty and everything, but then they want to

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01:01:56.920 --> 01:01:59.440
<v Speaker 1>go and saddle theirselfs with like an eighty thousand dollars

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01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:02.519
<v Speaker 1>truck and five hundred thousand dollars home. And and it's

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01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:05.639
<v Speaker 1>like you're pretty much at that point. I think most

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01:02:05.639 --> 01:02:08.800
<v Speaker 1>people are going to do whatever they're told to do

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01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:13.079
<v Speaker 1>in order to maintain that lifestyle. You know, because it's

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01:02:13.079 --> 01:02:15.639
<v Speaker 1>a new truck man, It's it's it's cool looking you know,

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01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:21.400
<v Speaker 1>and and it's my house is it's everything's that I

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01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:23.519
<v Speaker 1>hooked up to my phone and I can unlock my

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01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:25.719
<v Speaker 1>door from California and all this kind of stuff, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just think that that kind of, like I said,

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01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:33.880
<v Speaker 1>all that's brought on by media and education and people

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01:02:34.760 --> 01:02:38.880
<v Speaker 1>striving for worldly pleasures and not striving for what God

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01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I believe, intending for us to be. So we're meant

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<v Speaker 1>to labor in the fields by the sweat of our brow,

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01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:51.880
<v Speaker 1>we're supposed to eat. And what do we do nowadays?

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01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Men are They strive their very hardest to put themselves

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01:02:56.280 --> 01:02:58.599
<v Speaker 1>in an air conditioned office and not lift a finger,

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01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:01.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, and get a college edge, cas and and

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01:03:01.960 --> 01:03:05.119
<v Speaker 1>so we're almost right off the jump. We're trying to

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01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:09.519
<v Speaker 1>do away with what God told us was our curse

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01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:11.400
<v Speaker 1>after we got kicked out of the garden, you know.

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01:03:11.679 --> 01:03:15.519
<v Speaker 1>And I think it's evident that that's the wrong thing,

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<v Speaker 1>because it just seems like more people gain in this world,

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01:03:19.800 --> 01:03:23.599
<v Speaker 1>the the less happier they are. You know, some of

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01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:27.639
<v Speaker 1>the high suicide rates are wealthy white men, you know,

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01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:30.679
<v Speaker 1>with it seems like they have so much, so much

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01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:33.320
<v Speaker 1>to lose or whatever, and it just they work so

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01:03:33.400 --> 01:03:37.239
<v Speaker 1>hard to get these positions of this worldly fame, and

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01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:40.480
<v Speaker 1>it does the exact opposite of what we're told that

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01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:44.239
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna. It's not happiness, it's not taking care.

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<v Speaker 6>Of your family as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you get these positions and you're just it

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01:03:49.360 --> 01:03:51.639
<v Speaker 1>just destroys you in a sense. It seems like, so

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01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I think we're being we're meant to be pulling in

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01:03:55.480 --> 01:03:58.480
<v Speaker 1>the field in a sense, you know, Fox, what of

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01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:01.559
<v Speaker 1>our brow we're supposed to be doing this, be living.

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01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:05.519
<v Speaker 1>So I'm sorry for got off on a tangent there again.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not at all. You made great points, and that

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01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:15.760
<v Speaker 3>everything you just described is because of the way we

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01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:23.000
<v Speaker 3>define successful man successful person. Right that you drive by,

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01:04:23.480 --> 01:04:26.679
<v Speaker 3>like you said, a five hundred thousand dollars house with

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01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:30.400
<v Speaker 3>a brand new twenty twenty five f one fifty and

1101
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:36.360
<v Speaker 3>the driveway, and we're that is a successful man. But

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01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:38.239
<v Speaker 3>then on the other hand, you have someone who is

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01:04:38.239 --> 01:04:42.119
<v Speaker 3>debt free, who lives on a few wakers and educates

1104
01:04:42.159 --> 01:04:46.679
<v Speaker 3>his children and you know, provides a lot of his food. Naturally,

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01:04:47.519 --> 01:04:54.559
<v Speaker 3>that is by all means a successful man. You know,

1106
01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:59.360
<v Speaker 3>being the top salesman of twenty twenty four, you know,

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01:04:59.559 --> 01:05:02.280
<v Speaker 3>hats off to you and shake the hand. But that

1108
01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:06.280
<v Speaker 3>doesn't you know, money and the Bible tells us this

1109
01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:12.159
<v Speaker 3>a nauseam you know. Money, Uh, it is simply just

1110
01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:15.199
<v Speaker 3>something to barter with, it really is. And if we

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01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:17.159
<v Speaker 3>hoard something like that, it could be money, it can

1112
01:05:17.199 --> 01:05:19.280
<v Speaker 3>be gold, it could be silver if we take our

1113
01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:21.199
<v Speaker 3>eye away from the prize. And that is simply to

1114
01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:26.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, raise children so they can go off and

1115
01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:32.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, continue in God's manner. That is the true

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01:05:32.199 --> 01:05:34.480
<v Speaker 3>goal that we all should be aiming for and not

1117
01:05:34.639 --> 01:05:40.000
<v Speaker 3>be so you know, buried to our next in worldly

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01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:40.920
<v Speaker 3>things like we do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, And I mean that's just something that you know.

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<v Speaker 6>Back here in COVID, some of the greatest.

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01:05:51.639 --> 01:05:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Times that I would not take a million dollars for

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01:05:56.000 --> 01:06:00.519
<v Speaker 1>uh live my wife and my two kids were we

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01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:03.039
<v Speaker 1>would literally go to like my parents we have we

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01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:07.239
<v Speaker 1>have garden, little garden patches everywhere and uh and at

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01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:10.800
<v Speaker 1>my house here we would have we'd be working in

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01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:13.679
<v Speaker 1>the garden together, you know, we would be all from

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01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:18.360
<v Speaker 1>work and uh just that was the happiest time in

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01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:21.679
<v Speaker 1>my life, almost working with my children in the soul

1129
01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:26.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, hot, sweaty bugs. I don't know, if you've ever,

1130
01:06:27.039 --> 01:06:28.159
<v Speaker 1>like I said, I don't know if you've ever been

1131
01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:30.280
<v Speaker 1>down here in the south man, but it's uh, we

1132
01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:35.199
<v Speaker 1>we we can have some pretty hillacious weather, you know,

1133
01:06:35.639 --> 01:06:39.599
<v Speaker 1>pa some some heats and some bugs. But even still,

1134
01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't take a million dollars for being with my

1135
01:06:42.280 --> 01:06:46.599
<v Speaker 1>wife and my children working for for some potatoes and

1136
01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:49.000
<v Speaker 1>some corn and you know, stuff like that.

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01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:50.559
<v Speaker 6>It was it was awesome.

1138
01:06:51.039 --> 01:06:55.840
<v Speaker 1>And it kind of that kind of tore a veil

1139
01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:58.719
<v Speaker 1>from my eyes as well, because it's like, uh, like

1140
01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:03.000
<v Speaker 1>we were providing everything for ourselves and we were extremely happy.

1141
01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:07.320
<v Speaker 1>But it's like and it's free, and it's like, I think,

1142
01:07:07.519 --> 01:07:09.519
<v Speaker 1>like we talked about it, kind of that's what God

1143
01:07:10.039 --> 01:07:12.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of intended for us to do. And that's where

1144
01:07:12.119 --> 01:07:14.920
<v Speaker 1>we're I think we find the most peace at And

1145
01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:19.320
<v Speaker 1>yet you know, we we have to fight and fall

1146
01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:21.320
<v Speaker 1>and struggle to just kind of keep us some air

1147
01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:24.000
<v Speaker 1>conditioning and keep us you know, a nice struck out

1148
01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:26.199
<v Speaker 1>in the driveway and stuff like that. And it and

1149
01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:28.800
<v Speaker 1>it's like, why are we really fighting for this kind

1150
01:07:28.800 --> 01:07:31.039
<v Speaker 1>of stuff? Why are why is it so important when

1151
01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:34.360
<v Speaker 1>really the most important thing is is your your children,

1152
01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:37.480
<v Speaker 1>your your faith and Christ and and like your your

1153
01:07:37.519 --> 01:07:40.079
<v Speaker 1>wife and your your family. I'll just say, and like

1154
01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:44.519
<v Speaker 1>it was just some of the greatest times of my life.

1155
01:07:44.559 --> 01:07:46.559
<v Speaker 1>And it kind of opened my eyes to just what's

1156
01:07:46.639 --> 01:07:51.519
<v Speaker 1>really important, you know, in this life. And it was

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01:07:51.559 --> 01:07:55.760
<v Speaker 1>just fascinating to me. While at the same time, you know,

1158
01:07:56.119 --> 01:07:58.280
<v Speaker 1>it was just kind of scary what they were doing

1159
01:07:58.360 --> 01:08:01.119
<v Speaker 1>to all the world. You know, everybody was at home.

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01:08:01.199 --> 01:08:03.519
<v Speaker 1>But it was really I think that I think that

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01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:06.559
<v Speaker 1>you I've heard you mentioned too that like they overplayed

1162
01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:09.400
<v Speaker 1>their hand. I think they did, But like I said,

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01:08:09.440 --> 01:08:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't make that they ever intend.

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01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:16.399
<v Speaker 6>God as his will have his way.

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01:08:16.319 --> 01:08:21.880
<v Speaker 1>And I think God revealed to me, you know that, Yeah,

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01:08:22.039 --> 01:08:22.479
<v Speaker 1>it was.

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01:08:22.680 --> 01:08:24.119
<v Speaker 6>Crazy all this stuff that.

1168
01:08:24.039 --> 01:08:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Happened, but it will be okay, and like he will

1169
01:08:28.119 --> 01:08:29.760
<v Speaker 1>wake the people up that he wants.

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01:08:29.560 --> 01:08:32.319
<v Speaker 6>To wake up and he will help you.

1171
01:08:32.399 --> 01:08:34.039
<v Speaker 1>Really just got to put all your faith.

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01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:34.680
<v Speaker 6>In him, you know.

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01:08:35.520 --> 01:08:41.960
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, Amen, well said, is there anything else that

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01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:44.359
<v Speaker 3>I had? Oh, yeah, a job one of the other

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01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:46.399
<v Speaker 3>things that you had mentioned as far as flat Earth.

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01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:49.680
<v Speaker 3>What was important to what God spoke to Job and

1177
01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:53.680
<v Speaker 3>asked where he was when he set Earth on its foundation.

1178
01:08:54.039 --> 01:08:56.760
<v Speaker 3>And you know, for me, the two big ones obviously,

1179
01:08:57.840 --> 01:09:00.640
<v Speaker 3>like you mentioned Job thirty eight four where wast thou

1180
01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:03.399
<v Speaker 3>when I laid the foundations of the Earth. Uh, and

1181
01:09:03.399 --> 01:09:07.399
<v Speaker 3>then of course the same Joe, uh, fourteen thirty eight

1182
01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:10.720
<v Speaker 3>fourteen Uh, the earth takes the shape lake clay under

1183
01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:11.079
<v Speaker 3>a seal.

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01:09:12.479 --> 01:09:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, that's just that's something that always kind of

1185
01:09:18.239 --> 01:09:20.520
<v Speaker 1>just reading that, it almost like gives me so much

1186
01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:23.760
<v Speaker 1>peace now to read that and feel that. I mean,

1187
01:09:23.800 --> 01:09:27.479
<v Speaker 1>it's it's so peaceful, you know. Uh. And then going

1188
01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:29.880
<v Speaker 1>back another proof I have written down here that that

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01:09:29.960 --> 01:09:34.439
<v Speaker 1>I love is Genesis six through eight. I don't have it,

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01:09:35.479 --> 01:09:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I can't quote it, but it's just the firmament, you know,

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01:09:38.880 --> 01:09:42.560
<v Speaker 1>stepping the separating the waters from below and above, you know,

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01:09:44.319 --> 01:09:45.439
<v Speaker 1>and hanging it in the sky.

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01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:45.880
<v Speaker 6>You know.

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01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:50.840
<v Speaker 1>To me that that it's I think that those stars

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01:09:50.880 --> 01:09:53.680
<v Speaker 1>and luminaries, whatever you gonna call them, they're they're hanging

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01:09:53.720 --> 01:09:56.600
<v Speaker 1>in the firmament, they're in the waters above. And then

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01:09:56.800 --> 01:10:00.640
<v Speaker 1>during the flood, Noah's flood, I mean it, it literally

1198
01:10:00.720 --> 01:10:03.640
<v Speaker 1>says that he opens the sky like I think he

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01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:05.920
<v Speaker 1>rolls back to furmait or he opens the furnament of

1200
01:10:05.960 --> 01:10:07.720
<v Speaker 1>heaven and pours out water.

1201
01:10:08.680 --> 01:10:10.840
<v Speaker 6>So I just think that.

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01:10:10.680 --> 01:10:14.479
<v Speaker 1>That that's another big proof for me one of my

1203
01:10:14.680 --> 01:10:16.279
<v Speaker 1>one of my silver bullets, I would.

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01:10:16.079 --> 01:10:21.439
<v Speaker 3>Say completely agree. Is there anything else that you had

1205
01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:23.479
<v Speaker 3>noted that we hadn't covered as of yet?

1206
01:10:28.119 --> 01:10:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I had some things about Lewis and Clark,

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01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:37.680
<v Speaker 1>But I also I wanted to ask your opinion about, uh,

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01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:42.119
<v Speaker 1>do you think that there is any extra like even

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01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I know the first not a globe, but like even

1210
01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:48.960
<v Speaker 1>like as in our modern world, do you think that

1211
01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:53.319
<v Speaker 1>there is a possibility of extra land like just say

1212
01:10:53.720 --> 01:10:57.760
<v Speaker 1>in the Pacific Ocean or the Atlantic Ocean that would

1213
01:10:57.760 --> 01:11:02.039
<v Speaker 1>be completely hidden due to like shipping lanes and historical

1214
01:11:02.520 --> 01:11:06.520
<v Speaker 1>uh like trade winds. Do you think that there's any

1215
01:11:06.520 --> 01:11:09.880
<v Speaker 1>possibility of that, like, Because the reason I wanted to

1216
01:11:09.880 --> 01:11:13.760
<v Speaker 1>bring this up is it just seems like all of

1217
01:11:14.039 --> 01:11:19.439
<v Speaker 1>early travel exploration was all sanctioned by kings. Yeah, And

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01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I just I just wonder if like there could be

1219
01:11:23.079 --> 01:11:26.079
<v Speaker 1>say continents or islands the size of like to say

1220
01:11:26.159 --> 01:11:29.399
<v Speaker 1>Japan or or maybe even like Australia in places that

1221
01:11:29.439 --> 01:11:35.399
<v Speaker 1>we would never see because if if there if government

1222
01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:40.880
<v Speaker 1>like world governments basically control shipping lanes, that control flight paths,

1223
01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:44.560
<v Speaker 1>like and they're strictly followed, you know, like it's important

1224
01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:49.600
<v Speaker 1>if you're going, you know, from California to Hawaii or whatever,

1225
01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:52.359
<v Speaker 1>from Hawaii to Japan, like you have to stay on

1226
01:11:52.399 --> 01:11:54.760
<v Speaker 1>these shipping lanes or else you will run out of fuel.

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01:11:54.840 --> 01:11:57.159
<v Speaker 1>You will you know, you'll be lost at sea, and

1228
01:11:57.199 --> 01:11:59.239
<v Speaker 1>nobody will know where to look for you, because it's

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01:11:59.239 --> 01:12:02.760
<v Speaker 1>just a huge area. And I just just wonder if

1230
01:12:02.800 --> 01:12:05.800
<v Speaker 1>there's any way that that could be possible, you know,

1231
01:12:06.239 --> 01:12:08.000
<v Speaker 1>in it, or if that's just a crazy theory that

1232
01:12:08.039 --> 01:12:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I've kind of come up with on my own.

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01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:13.439
<v Speaker 3>No, I agree one hundred percent, and I've actually said

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01:12:13.479 --> 01:12:16.840
<v Speaker 3>before that I tend not to think that there's land

1235
01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:20.600
<v Speaker 3>beyond the ice wall. However, I do believe that there

1236
01:12:20.680 --> 01:12:25.039
<v Speaker 3>is probably smaller lands that we aren't taught of, probably

1237
01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:31.359
<v Speaker 3>in the Pacific, one between South America and Australia. But

1238
01:12:31.479 --> 01:12:34.760
<v Speaker 3>also I think there's a good chance if you look

1239
01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:38.840
<v Speaker 3>down between Australia and say South Africa, there's a large

1240
01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:41.600
<v Speaker 3>body of water there as well that just according to

1241
01:12:41.640 --> 01:12:44.359
<v Speaker 3>our maps, are completely empty. But I believe that the

1242
01:12:44.399 --> 01:12:48.119
<v Speaker 3>Pacific is too big when looking at a map, I

1243
01:12:48.199 --> 01:12:51.760
<v Speaker 3>tend to believe that somewhere south of the Tropic of

1244
01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:57.479
<v Speaker 3>Capricorn between Argentina, you know, west of Argentina east of Australia.

1245
01:12:57.520 --> 01:12:59.560
<v Speaker 3>There probably is land that we're not taught of.

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01:13:01.479 --> 01:13:03.840
<v Speaker 1>That's that's because I was thinking about it.

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01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:05.720
<v Speaker 6>You know, man, it's a if they.

1248
01:13:05.600 --> 01:13:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Were to even in our modern time, like they control satellites,

1249
01:13:10.680 --> 01:13:13.039
<v Speaker 1>they control all the images that we're able to see,

1250
01:13:13.239 --> 01:13:18.239
<v Speaker 1>or satalloons, whatever you wanna call them. But like I said,

1251
01:13:18.279 --> 01:13:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you my friend that's a pilot, like he

1252
01:13:20.920 --> 01:13:24.279
<v Speaker 1>has to I mean, just flying from a county airport

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<v Speaker 1>here in North Georgia to another one. You know, it's

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01:13:28.079 --> 01:13:31.279
<v Speaker 1>like you have to have a strict you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm flying at this altitude at this time, at this fast,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to this location, and I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>can only imagine for like say, large commercial aircraft's same way,

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01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:46.960
<v Speaker 1>large freighters and container ships it's the same way, and

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. It's all strictly, highly governed and mandated,

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<v Speaker 1>and and we just don't think anything about it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't. We don't. We just assume that that's just well,

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<v Speaker 1>Christopher Columbus come over here, and he knows, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so we got to stick on this path right here,

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<v Speaker 1>not that I'm saying that I believe in Christopher narrative, right,

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01:14:05.119 --> 01:14:08.119
<v Speaker 1>but it just it makes sense to me that like

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01:14:08.239 --> 01:14:10.520
<v Speaker 1>we could be you could be flying in a commercial

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01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:14.439
<v Speaker 1>airline for the last fifty years and people would never

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<v Speaker 1>if you were. You know, if there's one thousand miles

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<v Speaker 1>on either side.

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<v Speaker 6>Of it, you would never know.

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<v Speaker 1>If there's a continent the size of or an island,

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<v Speaker 1>say the size of Japan or New Zealand or even

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01:14:24.279 --> 01:14:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Australia that may be completely uninhabited or just be a

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<v Speaker 1>resort for some of these wealthy elite members of society.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean that that they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>keep to theirselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely and a place where they can live and not

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01:14:40.640 --> 01:14:44.000
<v Speaker 3>have to worry about the laws, you know, that they

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01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:46.439
<v Speaker 3>can live in their evil ways on these small lands.

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<v Speaker 3>I one hundred percent believe that. And you know, speaking

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<v Speaker 3>of exploration and things of that nature, you did mention

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<v Speaker 3>before we hit the record button a little bit about

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<v Speaker 3>the Lewis and Clark expedition. If you wanted to share that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, just I really got interested, like I do

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01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:06.000
<v Speaker 1>trapping and stuff like that. Like I said, I was

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01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:10.239
<v Speaker 1>just interested in early American mountain Man era type stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>The fur trade era, and where do you go to

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<v Speaker 1>learn all that stuff? Well, most of it was Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>and Clark expedition. That was it was happened in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>oh four. What really, I went out and perched. I

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01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:30.920
<v Speaker 1>wanted to get first the first hand account, Like I

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01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:35.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't want any kind of reproductions or anything or anything

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01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:39.920
<v Speaker 1>that has been tampered with by or or anything by.

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<v Speaker 1>So I tried to get as close as I could

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01:15:42.159 --> 01:15:46.520
<v Speaker 1>get and to the original journals. And the one that

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<v Speaker 1>I found was Reuben Gold the Watts published in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>oh four. It was the one hundred year anniversary and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a volume of like eight books, and I read

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<v Speaker 1>every detail of it, and it's very like Mundane and

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01:16:02.159 --> 01:16:04.800
<v Speaker 1>and you know, went two miles up the river this way,

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<v Speaker 1>it had a been to the southeast.

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<v Speaker 6>Blah blah blah. You know it was.

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01:16:07.600 --> 01:16:10.520
<v Speaker 1>It's very painstaking linked kind of to read, and I

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01:16:10.520 --> 01:16:13.920
<v Speaker 1>think that that's why so many modern conceptions of it

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01:16:14.119 --> 01:16:16.159
<v Speaker 1>kind of shortened down.

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01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:17.479
<v Speaker 6>And make it more readable.

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01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:20.760
<v Speaker 1>But I did find something in between that that I

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<v Speaker 1>in between reading and at one place, just a little

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01:16:25.159 --> 01:16:31.840
<v Speaker 1>nondescript place and around I believe it was Springfield, South

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01:16:31.920 --> 01:16:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Dakota in September second of eighteen oh four. They described

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<v Speaker 1>in great detail, or Meriwether Lewis describes in great detail

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01:16:42.279 --> 01:16:46.880
<v Speaker 1>ancient what he calls ancient fortification, so like an earthen

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01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:52.680
<v Speaker 1>structure that is like hundreds of yards long, very straight lines,

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01:16:52.960 --> 01:16:57.880
<v Speaker 1>very precise angles. Walls were you know, sometimes as high

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01:16:57.920 --> 01:17:00.720
<v Speaker 1>as six feet to eight feet on one side, and

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01:17:00.760 --> 01:17:04.199
<v Speaker 1>I think like fifteen to fifteen feet all the way

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01:17:04.239 --> 01:17:07.560
<v Speaker 1>down on the other side. And he goes in to

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01:17:07.960 --> 01:17:11.439
<v Speaker 1>great detail about this and laying it out, plotting it out, drawing.

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01:17:11.720 --> 01:17:17.600
<v Speaker 1>There's a detailed drawing in this book, and they're in

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<v Speaker 1>this one particular part of the journal, and he all,

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01:17:24.319 --> 01:17:26.720
<v Speaker 1>like I said, there's about three pages of this description

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01:17:26.880 --> 01:17:31.600
<v Speaker 1>of this, and then the editors know at the bottom says, well,

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01:17:31.640 --> 01:17:34.880
<v Speaker 1>we now know that this is just a natural occurring

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01:17:35.039 --> 01:17:38.960
<v Speaker 1>sand wash due to the erosion of the river. That

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01:17:39.119 --> 01:17:41.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of struck me as a little bit odd. So

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of just started doing some research. I got

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01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:48.039
<v Speaker 1>on Google and I was like, well, where was Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>and Clark on September second, eighteen oh four, And it

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01:17:53.439 --> 01:17:55.560
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't pull anything up. I kind of had to dig

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01:17:55.640 --> 01:17:59.000
<v Speaker 1>and then I typed it in another way and it

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01:17:59.239 --> 01:18:01.239
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't pull it up. And I typed in like ancient

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01:18:01.239 --> 01:18:04.960
<v Speaker 1>fortification described by Lewis and Clark, and it kind of

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01:18:05.119 --> 01:18:08.000
<v Speaker 1>redirected me to something that didn't even make any sense.

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<v Speaker 1>It was talking about when they were out in Fort Klatsup,

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01:18:11.479 --> 01:18:14.199
<v Speaker 1>which was all the way when they made their original

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01:18:14.439 --> 01:18:19.479
<v Speaker 1>encampment on the Pacific coast on the Columbia River, and

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01:18:19.520 --> 01:18:20.960
<v Speaker 1>that didn't make any sense to me.

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<v Speaker 6>It wasn't pulling up any.

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01:18:21.960 --> 01:18:24.640
<v Speaker 1>And normally, you know, I can google where they were

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01:18:24.680 --> 01:18:27.199
<v Speaker 1>at Fort Mandan or you know what they were doing.

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01:18:27.399 --> 01:18:29.840
<v Speaker 6>It's very well documented, and it would pull it up well.

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01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:32.159
<v Speaker 6>Finally found I found.

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<v Speaker 1>Something I tapped very specifically in and it said that

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I found out that it was in Springfield,

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01:18:38.199 --> 01:18:43.880
<v Speaker 1>South Dakota, and I just it said that that the

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01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:48.039
<v Speaker 1>AI generated Google assistant or whatever said that this they

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01:18:48.079 --> 01:18:52.479
<v Speaker 1>were near Springfield, South Dakota, and they misidentified of what

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01:18:52.520 --> 01:18:55.439
<v Speaker 1>they thought was ancient fortifications, but we now know that

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01:18:55.479 --> 01:18:58.239
<v Speaker 1>it was just sand washes, and that was a little

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01:18:58.279 --> 01:19:01.840
<v Speaker 1>bit odd to me. What struck me as odd was

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01:19:01.880 --> 01:19:06.520
<v Speaker 1>that these were military men, and these were very at

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01:19:06.520 --> 01:19:08.359
<v Speaker 1>this point they had been about a thousand or fifteen

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01:19:08.399 --> 01:19:12.119
<v Speaker 1>hundred miles on that river, like literally walking or sailing

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01:19:12.159 --> 01:19:16.720
<v Speaker 1>every square inch of and documenting every structure land mass.

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<v Speaker 1>They very detailed descriptions of the bends of the river,

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01:19:20.199 --> 01:19:23.800
<v Speaker 1>the washes, the erosion, the soil makeup. But yet when

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01:19:23.800 --> 01:19:25.560
<v Speaker 1>they come to this one place, it's just a sandwashing

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01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:28.000
<v Speaker 1>and they misidentified it. That didn't make any sense to

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01:19:28.039 --> 01:19:33.159
<v Speaker 1>me whatsoever, because they would have known what they were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. And so then I got to just I

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<v Speaker 1>went to Google Earth, Google Maps, and I went to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of look at some of the places on the river,

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01:19:44.079 --> 01:19:47.520
<v Speaker 1>and I noticed that there was a large lake there,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's on the actual river itself. It's a twenty

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01:19:53.079 --> 01:19:56.800
<v Speaker 1>five mile long lake, has ninety miles the shoreline covers

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01:19:56.840 --> 01:20:00.600
<v Speaker 1>like thirty two thousand acres, and it was built at

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<v Speaker 1>the height of the Second World War in nineteen forty four,

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<v Speaker 1>which to me sounded a little bit like a It

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01:20:10.199 --> 01:20:12.319
<v Speaker 1>just sounded like, I don't know why they would have

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01:20:12.359 --> 01:20:17.039
<v Speaker 1>done that at that time when it cost fifty million

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01:20:17.119 --> 01:20:20.800
<v Speaker 1>dollars or whatever to do in so much manpower. It

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't It seems to me like it was kind

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01:20:23.119 --> 01:20:26.079
<v Speaker 1>of a cover up. It just seems of some kind

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01:20:26.119 --> 01:20:31.720
<v Speaker 1>of ancient technology or ancient structure that we're not meant

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01:20:31.720 --> 01:20:36.800
<v Speaker 1>to see. And also they found a giant fish is

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01:20:36.840 --> 01:20:39.479
<v Speaker 1>what they call it. They found a giant fish bone,

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01:20:39.520 --> 01:20:43.119
<v Speaker 1>backbone that measured forty five feet long, and found various

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01:20:43.119 --> 01:20:48.840
<v Speaker 1>different sides of the teeth right at the same location,

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01:20:49.199 --> 01:20:52.199
<v Speaker 1>within a mile or so of the same location. So

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01:20:52.680 --> 01:20:53.119
<v Speaker 1>it was just.

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<v Speaker 6>Something interesting that I found.

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01:20:54.560 --> 01:20:56.840
<v Speaker 1>And now that there's a there's a large lake that

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01:20:57.560 --> 01:20:59.199
<v Speaker 1>just you know, they built in the middle of the

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01:20:59.239 --> 01:21:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Second World War, it just struck me as a little

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01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:02.840
<v Speaker 1>bit odd.

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<v Speaker 3>That is interesting. And they found, like you said, fishbones

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01:21:07.600 --> 01:21:10.439
<v Speaker 3>forty five feet long or whatever in the middle of

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01:21:10.479 --> 01:21:14.279
<v Speaker 3>the country. That's something that maybe you would you would

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01:21:14.319 --> 01:21:17.520
<v Speaker 3>accept if you found it on one of the coasts,

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01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:20.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, the Pacific coast or the Eastern coast, But

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01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:23.479
<v Speaker 3>to be right in the middle of the country. And

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01:21:23.560 --> 01:21:26.960
<v Speaker 3>one thing you have to remember when you research the

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01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:29.880
<v Speaker 3>people who were involved in these stories, Meriwether Lewis was

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01:21:29.960 --> 01:21:33.600
<v Speaker 3>part of the club. He was actually one of the

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01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:35.439
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember if he was in I think he

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01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:41.680
<v Speaker 3>was an officer, but he was part of the military

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01:21:41.720 --> 01:21:43.800
<v Speaker 3>who put down We just talked. It's funny when you

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01:21:44.159 --> 01:21:49.600
<v Speaker 3>talk about this the Whiskey Rebellion. He was part of

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01:21:49.640 --> 01:21:52.840
<v Speaker 3>the Virginia militia that was sent to put down the

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01:21:52.880 --> 01:21:57.279
<v Speaker 3>Whiskey Rebellion. And he also is part of the club

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01:21:57.399 --> 01:22:05.239
<v Speaker 3>as far as the what is the name the Philadelphia Society,

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01:22:05.439 --> 01:22:10.159
<v Speaker 3>which has the same people involved like Louis Pasture, Charles Darwin,

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01:22:10.439 --> 01:22:17.640
<v Speaker 3>all the people who you know, push these false narratives.

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01:22:18.399 --> 01:22:21.039
<v Speaker 3>He's part of that club. So it's interesting to me.

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01:22:21.159 --> 01:22:24.840
<v Speaker 3>It wouldn't surprise me a bit if he was covering

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01:22:24.920 --> 01:22:29.000
<v Speaker 3>up the true meaning of everything you were talking about, right,

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01:22:29.920 --> 01:22:34.680
<v Speaker 3>what really was there in South Dakota.

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01:22:36.279 --> 01:22:41.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it kind of and this is going to

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01:22:41.279 --> 01:22:43.680
<v Speaker 1>sound a little bit crazy, but we were reading, we

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01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:47.239
<v Speaker 1>read my kids the like the what is It? The

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01:22:47.560 --> 01:22:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Little House on.

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01:22:48.239 --> 01:22:51.159
<v Speaker 6>Praier books and later.

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01:22:51.279 --> 01:22:54.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, Little House in Prairie has like several written

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01:22:54.640 --> 01:22:58.119
<v Speaker 1>by Laura Angels Wilder in like the eighteen seventies. I

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01:22:58.159 --> 01:23:02.720
<v Speaker 1>believe that its depicting life in the eighteen seventies and eighties.

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01:23:03.199 --> 01:23:07.680
<v Speaker 1>And there was just one little mention later in life.

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01:23:07.720 --> 01:23:11.359
<v Speaker 1>She was one of her journals that talks about they

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01:23:11.399 --> 01:23:17.920
<v Speaker 1>were leaving that dismant South Dakota and they go through Omaha, Nebraska,

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01:23:18.239 --> 01:23:20.920
<v Speaker 1>or they don't, but one of their relatives do and

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01:23:20.960 --> 01:23:26.119
<v Speaker 1>they meet them on their little journey or whatever. They

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01:23:26.520 --> 01:23:31.720
<v Speaker 1>talked about. They just mentioned the Capitol Building. I just

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01:23:32.319 --> 01:23:36.039
<v Speaker 1>kind of think that there was some the Capitol Building

1423
01:23:36.079 --> 01:23:39.720
<v Speaker 1>in Omaha. If you're not aware, it's like it's fascinating.

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01:23:39.760 --> 01:23:42.560
<v Speaker 1>It's a huge building and just like most of all

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01:23:42.600 --> 01:23:47.600
<v Speaker 1>of our capitol buildings. And I just I wonder so

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01:23:47.720 --> 01:23:50.319
<v Speaker 1>much about like hidden history or like what was here

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01:23:50.359 --> 01:23:55.720
<v Speaker 1>before us. And I don't know, I don't know. I've

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01:23:55.720 --> 01:23:58.199
<v Speaker 1>heard you mentioned like timelines and things of that nature.

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01:23:58.439 --> 01:24:00.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where we're at as far as time goes,

1430
01:24:00.399 --> 01:24:06.000
<v Speaker 1>but I do think something with these capitol buildings and

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01:24:06.119 --> 01:24:09.640
<v Speaker 1>some of these structures that were like the Indian mounds

1432
01:24:09.760 --> 01:24:13.520
<v Speaker 1>all throughout the country, like the Serpent Mounds and stuff

1433
01:24:13.560 --> 01:24:17.039
<v Speaker 1>like that, I believe they're in no iiO. I'm not sure. Uh.

1434
01:24:17.239 --> 01:24:20.079
<v Speaker 1>There's just so much of our history that like, like

1435
01:24:20.640 --> 01:24:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I kind of start to think that like the Lewis

1436
01:24:22.800 --> 01:24:26.640
<v Speaker 1>and Clark expedition. I wonder how many like Lewis and

1437
01:24:26.680 --> 01:24:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Clark expeditions, if you will, that we don't get to

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01:24:29.720 --> 01:24:30.279
<v Speaker 1>hear about.

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01:24:30.520 --> 01:24:31.600
<v Speaker 6>And that's kind of where.

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01:24:31.600 --> 01:24:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I was wondering going with like more Land ye out

1441
01:24:34.920 --> 01:24:36.960
<v Speaker 1>in the Pacific is like I wonder how many of

1442
01:24:36.960 --> 01:24:41.840
<v Speaker 1>these expeditions that we're not told about because they found

1443
01:24:41.880 --> 01:24:43.600
<v Speaker 1>out things that we're not to know.

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01:24:45.800 --> 01:24:46.720
<v Speaker 6>If that makes sense.

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01:24:47.359 --> 01:24:50.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I couldn't agree with you more. I believe

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01:24:50.319 --> 01:24:51.760
<v Speaker 3>that there.

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01:24:51.800 --> 01:24:55.560
<v Speaker 1>There's so much in like, uh, there's so much in

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01:24:55.560 --> 01:24:59.039
<v Speaker 1>this journal that I have here. I don't know what

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01:24:59.119 --> 01:25:02.000
<v Speaker 1>you call it, but it's there's so many letters to Congress.

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01:25:02.119 --> 01:25:06.800
<v Speaker 1>But this was a clandestine operation, like everybody thinks in

1451
01:25:06.960 --> 01:25:09.680
<v Speaker 1>history clash, you're told that, oh we had the losing

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01:25:09.680 --> 01:25:11.319
<v Speaker 1>of Versus in eighteen oh three, and then Lewis and

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01:25:11.359 --> 01:25:14.159
<v Speaker 1>Clark set out and went up to map Offist country.

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01:25:14.720 --> 01:25:16.840
<v Speaker 1>That could not be further from the truth. It was

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01:25:16.880 --> 01:25:20.159
<v Speaker 1>a it was they were interested in going up the

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01:25:20.199 --> 01:25:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Missouri in like the seventeen eighties. They sent they hired

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01:25:26.239 --> 01:25:28.800
<v Speaker 1>like a double agent that they didn't know was a

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01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:30.520
<v Speaker 1>double agent. They were going to try to send like

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01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:32.680
<v Speaker 1>one or two men at a time to go up

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<v Speaker 1>here and like explore. Because it was such a clandestine operation,

1461
01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:39.720
<v Speaker 1>it was owned by France, there was some Spanish influence

1462
01:25:40.399 --> 01:25:43.239
<v Speaker 1>that they might were worried about. They were instructed not

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01:25:43.359 --> 01:25:47.640
<v Speaker 1>to take any written beforehand, like Lewis and Clark were

1464
01:25:47.680 --> 01:25:53.239
<v Speaker 1>told in like the seventeen nineties or seventeen like ninety nine.

1465
01:25:53.359 --> 01:25:55.399
<v Speaker 1>They were talking about this and they were like, no,

1466
01:25:55.479 --> 01:25:58.520
<v Speaker 1>you can't take any written orders. This is strictly scientific.

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01:25:58.960 --> 01:26:03.439
<v Speaker 1>There's no military, ain't there's no like you know, and

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01:26:03.159 --> 01:26:07.000
<v Speaker 1>and it was just a clandex there's secret letters to Congress.

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01:26:07.039 --> 01:26:12.039
<v Speaker 1>And I've heard you mentioned a lot about the what

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01:26:12.159 --> 01:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>is it the American Philosophical Society.

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01:26:14.680 --> 01:26:17.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's exactly what I was trying to mention earlier

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01:26:17.079 --> 01:26:19.039
<v Speaker 3>with Lewis and Clark. That's exactly what it is, the

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01:26:19.039 --> 01:26:23.920
<v Speaker 3>American Philosophical Society. It was in Philadelphia, Yeah, there was.

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01:26:24.279 --> 01:26:27.680
<v Speaker 1>There's there's several mentions and I have them kind of

1475
01:26:27.880 --> 01:26:32.079
<v Speaker 1>noted down or they're just like where Thomas Jefferson is

1476
01:26:32.119 --> 01:26:36.079
<v Speaker 1>like taking money from like George Washington and Alexander Hamilton

1477
01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:39.039
<v Speaker 1>or something, and people like that, like twenty five dollars

1478
01:26:39.039 --> 01:26:44.279
<v Speaker 1>to the American Philosophical Society. Like how they're in talks

1479
01:26:44.359 --> 01:26:48.199
<v Speaker 1>with other with Congress, secret letters to Congress, you know

1480
01:26:48.359 --> 01:26:50.359
<v Speaker 1>about this whole endeavor.

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01:26:50.880 --> 01:26:53.119
<v Speaker 6>And it's just stuff that we're never told, we're never

1482
01:26:53.199 --> 01:26:54.600
<v Speaker 6>taught and like and.

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01:26:54.479 --> 01:26:56.960
<v Speaker 1>It's just like I said, it was fascinating to me

1484
01:26:57.000 --> 01:26:59.319
<v Speaker 1>to the kind of and I'm glad that I purchased it.

1485
01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:03.680
<v Speaker 1>And when I purchased, it's been about twelve years ago.

1486
01:27:04.119 --> 01:27:07.800
<v Speaker 6>I think it was like very expensive for me. At

1487
01:27:07.840 --> 01:27:08.720
<v Speaker 6>the time, it was like.

1488
01:27:08.640 --> 01:27:11.680
<v Speaker 1>One hundred and fifty dollars or something, and that's the

1489
01:27:11.760 --> 01:27:14.439
<v Speaker 1>time we didn't have any kind of money for that.

1490
01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:18.520
<v Speaker 1>But interestingly enough, now the same set of books is

1491
01:27:18.560 --> 01:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>like four hundred it's five hundred dollars to purchase the

1492
01:27:22.600 --> 01:27:25.840
<v Speaker 1>this you know, set of this information. It's almost like

1493
01:27:26.359 --> 01:27:28.479
<v Speaker 1>I think I've heard you or some of your guests

1494
01:27:28.560 --> 01:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>mentioning as well that you know, they really are good

1495
01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:36.680
<v Speaker 1>at like they'll give you this information, but you're going

1496
01:27:36.760 --> 01:27:38.760
<v Speaker 1>to have to pay for it, basically, like it's not

1497
01:27:38.800 --> 01:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>going to be cheap. And I think that that's kind

1498
01:27:40.800 --> 01:27:43.399
<v Speaker 1>of how they keep people from ascertaining it.

1499
01:27:43.720 --> 01:27:46.199
<v Speaker 3>Yep, in a sense, a lot of the knowledge that

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01:27:46.640 --> 01:27:49.000
<v Speaker 3>I think would answer a lot of the questions. Those

1501
01:27:49.000 --> 01:27:52.399
<v Speaker 3>books were written in the eighteenth and nineteenth century, and

1502
01:27:52.439 --> 01:27:54.000
<v Speaker 3>in order to buy some of these you have to

1503
01:27:54.039 --> 01:27:58.399
<v Speaker 3>go on eBay, and they're they're expensive. They're they're extremely expensive.

1504
01:27:58.600 --> 01:28:03.119
<v Speaker 3>Like there's encyclopedia, I forget what year it is, but

1505
01:28:03.159 --> 01:28:06.479
<v Speaker 3>it specifically mentions the firmament and its height at a

1506
01:28:06.560 --> 01:28:08.680
<v Speaker 3>certain latitude of like thirteen thousand feet.

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01:28:08.840 --> 01:28:14.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Ah, So that was just something interesting that I

1508
01:28:14.079 --> 01:28:16.840
<v Speaker 1>found about the whole expedition, and it just kind of

1509
01:28:17.720 --> 01:28:20.880
<v Speaker 1>it again, it just on another veil, kind of come

1510
01:28:20.920 --> 01:28:25.359
<v Speaker 1>down from my eyes, like I don't know where we're

1511
01:28:25.399 --> 01:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>at in time, but it almost seemed like instead of exploration,

1512
01:28:29.439 --> 01:28:31.880
<v Speaker 1>which is what they were doing, it's almost like they

1513
01:28:31.880 --> 01:28:34.119
<v Speaker 1>could have been doing they were doing something else, and

1514
01:28:34.159 --> 01:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>it would have been so easy to cover it up,

1515
01:28:36.920 --> 01:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, like you said, like rediscovering ancient technology or

1516
01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>or ancient architecture or whatever you wanna call it. So

1517
01:28:47.439 --> 01:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>it was interesting for me to find out there's another

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01:28:51.960 --> 01:28:54.479
<v Speaker 1>gentleman that I was kind of interested. If you'd ever

1519
01:28:54.520 --> 01:28:56.439
<v Speaker 1>heard of, or if you've ever done a podcast on,

1520
01:28:56.720 --> 01:29:01.640
<v Speaker 1>was Lincoln Ellsworth, who who was supposed to do like Antarctic.

1521
01:29:01.960 --> 01:29:05.000
<v Speaker 1>He did an Antarctic expedition and like nineteen from nineteen

1522
01:29:05.000 --> 01:29:08.119
<v Speaker 1>twenty five to nineteen thirty six, has he ever come

1523
01:29:08.159 --> 01:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>on your radar?

1524
01:29:09.359 --> 01:29:09.920
<v Speaker 6>By chance?

1525
01:29:10.439 --> 01:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>You know?

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01:29:10.840 --> 01:29:13.760
<v Speaker 3>The name is familiar, but I'm not sure I've actually

1527
01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:18.359
<v Speaker 3>taken the time to research his work. And he was

1528
01:29:18.359 --> 01:29:20.279
<v Speaker 3>a Yelle guy too, which is interesting. They have a

1529
01:29:20.319 --> 01:29:21.840
<v Speaker 3>lot of secret societies there.

1530
01:29:22.960 --> 01:29:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he hung the old I got pictures in a

1531
01:29:25.680 --> 01:29:31.479
<v Speaker 1>nineteen July nineteen thirty six National Geographic where he wrote

1532
01:29:31.520 --> 01:29:35.720
<v Speaker 1>an article and he's planted the Yell flag. I thought

1533
01:29:35.760 --> 01:29:40.640
<v Speaker 1>that that was down there supposedly an Antarctica and flew

1534
01:29:40.680 --> 01:29:44.159
<v Speaker 1>a plane and stuff like that across Antarctica in a

1535
01:29:44.199 --> 01:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>squirrel skin PARKA. So I don't know. It was just

1536
01:29:50.800 --> 01:29:54.720
<v Speaker 1>interesting and I just I don't believe it whatsoever. Really,

1537
01:29:56.359 --> 01:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>But he received the Hubbard ward UH Medal Hubbard Medal

1538
01:30:03.319 --> 01:30:08.239
<v Speaker 1>by Franklin Delano Roosevelt or whatever. Really, Yes, I don't

1539
01:30:08.239 --> 01:30:10.239
<v Speaker 1>know what the Hubbard award. Have you ever heard of that?

1540
01:30:10.279 --> 01:30:12.640
<v Speaker 1>It was like for extraordinary achievements.

1541
01:30:13.880 --> 01:30:17.680
<v Speaker 3>No, he said he was awarded a Congressional Gold Medal

1542
01:30:17.920 --> 01:30:21.039
<v Speaker 3>uh And then he was given the Hubbard Gold Medal.

1543
01:30:21.359 --> 01:30:24.560
<v Speaker 3>Apparently it's given from the National Geographic Society.

1544
01:30:25.600 --> 01:30:30.039
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, and that that National Geographic is kind of

1545
01:30:30.039 --> 01:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>interesting too. Man. It's the board of trustees on there

1546
01:30:32.760 --> 01:30:34.119
<v Speaker 1>is like the General John J.

1547
01:30:34.279 --> 01:30:34.680
<v Speaker 6>Pershon.

1548
01:30:34.760 --> 01:30:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Now, this is like I said in nineteen thirty six,

1549
01:30:37.640 --> 01:30:41.920
<v Speaker 1>John Pershing otis Smith like there it's a there's like

1550
01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:45.359
<v Speaker 1>twenty people that are like presidents.

1551
01:30:45.840 --> 01:30:47.680
<v Speaker 6>I don't know. I think that that. I think that

1552
01:30:47.680 --> 01:30:50.319
<v Speaker 6>that's another one of those tools of propaganda that they

1553
01:30:50.439 --> 01:30:52.920
<v Speaker 6>use to cover.

1554
01:30:52.760 --> 01:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>The wool over our eyes.

1555
01:30:54.079 --> 01:30:57.600
<v Speaker 3>Yep, that they they they preached Moonland, that they preached

1556
01:30:57.680 --> 01:31:00.439
<v Speaker 3>the history that we are taught. They rein force it.

1557
01:31:00.520 --> 01:31:02.920
<v Speaker 3>And if you look who runs it now, it's the

1558
01:31:02.960 --> 01:31:06.159
<v Speaker 3>Case family. They're the ones who read that was the

1559
01:31:06.640 --> 01:31:10.520
<v Speaker 3>founded America Online. So another wealthy family is running the

1560
01:31:10.560 --> 01:31:11.239
<v Speaker 3>history narrative.

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01:31:12.600 --> 01:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it says in parenthes here it says organized for

1562
01:31:16.520 --> 01:31:20.359
<v Speaker 1>the Increase and Diffusion of geographic knowledge on the first

1563
01:31:20.640 --> 01:31:24.159
<v Speaker 1>first cover. And I think that's you know, I think

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01:31:24.239 --> 01:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>that while they have that in quotes, I think it's

1565
01:31:27.960 --> 01:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>like I think that's like the slot of hand. Maybe

1566
01:31:32.039 --> 01:31:34.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like we're going to like you you've

1567
01:31:34.199 --> 01:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>talked about on your podcast before, like the this we

1568
01:31:37.720 --> 01:31:44.399
<v Speaker 1>call that not subversion where they where Satan like flips.

1569
01:31:44.000 --> 01:31:45.479
<v Speaker 3>Everything, yea, inverts everything.

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01:31:45.560 --> 01:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, And I think that that's kind of I

1571
01:31:48.960 --> 01:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>think that that's what they did with this is they

1572
01:31:50.920 --> 01:31:54.079
<v Speaker 1>just kind of reverse all of our education and just

1573
01:31:54.119 --> 01:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>to subvert God.

1574
01:31:55.840 --> 01:31:57.760
<v Speaker 3>By the way, do you know how many Board of

1575
01:31:57.760 --> 01:32:00.560
<v Speaker 3>trustees or on the National Geographic Society.

1576
01:32:02.560 --> 01:32:04.399
<v Speaker 6>Like at present or at this time?

1577
01:32:05.239 --> 01:32:07.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, it reads as of now, but it's a number

1578
01:32:07.960 --> 01:32:11.840
<v Speaker 3>that is very It should pop out when people's mind

1579
01:32:11.840 --> 01:32:16.159
<v Speaker 3>if they hear the number I have, it's gonna be

1580
01:32:16.359 --> 01:32:16.960
<v Speaker 3>thirty three.

1581
01:32:18.039 --> 01:32:25.079
<v Speaker 1>Thirty three, I'm gonna six and I don't have time

1582
01:32:25.079 --> 01:32:27.039
<v Speaker 1>to count, but I would assume that it's thirty three.

1583
01:32:27.159 --> 01:32:29.399
<v Speaker 3>Yep, that's what it says. You can't make this stuff up.

1584
01:32:29.399 --> 01:32:32.760
<v Speaker 3>This has been I've had such a fascinating conversation. We're

1585
01:32:32.760 --> 01:32:35.479
<v Speaker 3>about out of time. I would like to leave the

1586
01:32:35.520 --> 01:32:36.600
<v Speaker 3>last word up to you, though.

1587
01:32:38.760 --> 01:32:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Man, I'm just want to thank you for taking

1588
01:32:42.840 --> 01:32:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the time and thank you for letting me ramble and

1589
01:32:48.560 --> 01:32:50.680
<v Speaker 1>stumble through this. I'm not a very good this is

1590
01:32:50.720 --> 01:32:53.079
<v Speaker 1>my first podcast ever, so.

1591
01:32:55.399 --> 01:32:56.479
<v Speaker 6>I just.

1592
01:32:58.199 --> 01:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm very very thankful to have this time to take

1593
01:33:01.000 --> 01:33:06.079
<v Speaker 1>with you. And I hope and pray that everybody listening

1594
01:33:06.119 --> 01:33:09.319
<v Speaker 1>has a great day, and that God's peace is on

1595
01:33:10.159 --> 01:33:13.600
<v Speaker 1>everybody that is under the sound of my voice. And

1596
01:33:13.680 --> 01:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I hope that I have made a good representation or

1597
01:33:18.199 --> 01:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>not a representation, but a presentation. Brians as well.

1598
01:33:23.560 --> 01:33:26.800
<v Speaker 3>You certainly did, and I'm thankful that you brought a

1599
01:33:26.840 --> 01:33:29.840
<v Speaker 3>lot of new information that has never been discussed over

1600
01:33:29.880 --> 01:33:33.760
<v Speaker 3>these almost two hundred episodes. So I appreciate your time,

1601
01:33:35.680 --> 01:33:39.359
<v Speaker 3>appreciate what you do, and just thank you so much

1602
01:33:39.399 --> 01:33:43.279
<v Speaker 3>for taking the time to share your story with our listeners.

1603
01:33:43.960 --> 01:33:46.159
<v Speaker 1>All right, well man, you have you have a great day.

1604
01:33:46.279 --> 01:33:48.079
<v Speaker 3>Thank you you too, and thank you to all of

1605
01:33:48.119 --> 01:33:50.800
<v Speaker 3>our listeners for your continued support. I hope everybody has

1606
01:33:50.840 --> 01:33:53.439
<v Speaker 3>a great week. ID bless you. Keep your head on

1607
01:33:53.479 --> 01:33:56.239
<v Speaker 3>a swivel, and until we meet again, my friends, we

1608
01:33:56.239 --> 01:33:57.039
<v Speaker 3>will see you.

1609
01:34:00.279 --> 01:34:05.840
<v Speaker 9>I know it's been a struggle. I know you've had spain.

1610
01:34:08.239 --> 01:34:16.039
<v Speaker 9>I know you feel tired, held down by all the way. Yeah,

1611
01:34:16.239 --> 01:34:17.680
<v Speaker 9>I know you feeling.

1612
01:34:20.239 --> 01:34:28.159
<v Speaker 4>You smile ain't the same that saw well go from you.

1613
01:34:28.039 --> 01:34:35.039
<v Speaker 4>I feel like you've lost your way. Don't give it, No,

1614
01:34:35.520 --> 01:34:41.159
<v Speaker 4>don't give it never is hold. Don't let all the primise.

1615
01:34:41.800 --> 01:34:43.239
<v Speaker 4>It ain't done yet.

1616
01:34:43.279 --> 01:34:46.199
<v Speaker 3>He's got a plan. Why it's away.

1617
01:34:46.439 --> 01:34:55.479
<v Speaker 10>Time got up, mabby, come, Why it's a way God

1618
01:34:55.760 --> 01:34:57.119
<v Speaker 10>up by call.

1619
01:35:04.000 --> 01:35:08.840
<v Speaker 9>I can see the straight beside you. Childs are putting

1620
01:35:09.119 --> 01:35:13.720
<v Speaker 9>up the five. Oh, you're stronger than any thing.

1621
01:35:14.239 --> 01:35:15.159
<v Speaker 11>You are.

1622
01:35:15.840 --> 01:35:21.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're gonna be all right. You're accepting a dead

1623
01:35:21.680 --> 01:35:22.199
<v Speaker 3>found you.

1624
01:35:23.840 --> 01:35:24.720
<v Speaker 12>Beautiful.

1625
01:35:24.720 --> 01:35:26.199
<v Speaker 3>You're shoving ride.

1626
01:35:27.760 --> 01:35:33.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're living, breathing, move it. You can hold your

1627
01:35:33.199 --> 01:35:36.079
<v Speaker 4>head a pie.

1628
01:35:37.760 --> 01:35:42.800
<v Speaker 12>Don't give up, No, don't give in. Never loves home,

1629
01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:47.840
<v Speaker 12>don't let go on the primies, It ain't done Yet's God?

1630
01:35:48.039 --> 01:35:52.560
<v Speaker 13>I let WA's a way tell the God of me

1631
01:35:52.760 --> 01:35:58.039
<v Speaker 13>because don't give up. No, don't give in you never

1632
01:35:58.279 --> 01:36:01.159
<v Speaker 13>love home, don't let gone the promise?

1633
01:36:01.840 --> 01:36:04.399
<v Speaker 12>It ain't God life, It's worth living.

1634
01:36:05.239 --> 01:36:09.239
<v Speaker 13>What's a play down the God V call?

1635
01:36:13.239 --> 01:36:14.760
<v Speaker 11>What's a play down?

1636
01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:22.760
<v Speaker 5>The god tam record? Oh yeah, what's a play down

1637
01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:42.159
<v Speaker 5>the god tam? Oh yeah, got TV call? Oh, don't

1638
01:36:42.239 --> 01:36:42.760
<v Speaker 5>give up?

1639
01:36:43.039 --> 01:36:48.079
<v Speaker 11>No, don't give in? Never so do they go off?

1640
01:36:48.159 --> 01:36:53.800
<v Speaker 11>The primis? I in as got a playing watch a

1641
01:36:55.279 --> 01:37:02.720
<v Speaker 11>kind of in coat. Don't give no dog never this whole,

1642
01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:08.359
<v Speaker 11>don't let go of the crimes getting done? Lovers for living?

1643
01:37:09.279 --> 01:37:13.920
<v Speaker 11>What's God of in columes?

1644
01:37:18.840 --> 01:37:19.039
<v Speaker 1>All?

1645
01:37:19.239 --> 01:37:22.479
<v Speaker 5>The God of needs?

1646
01:37:25.239 --> 01:37:26.800
<v Speaker 4>Whys done?

1647
01:37:26.960 --> 01:37:29.279
<v Speaker 1>The God of a case?

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01:37:36.319 --> 01:37:43.079
<v Speaker 3>You're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network. Just the facts, ma'am.
