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Speaker 2: Block off hot, a step hit on, staylock.

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Speaker 1: Here's your hosts, Jesse Sovier and Victor Nuno Fantasy Hockey.

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Speaker 3: Live once again. Jesse Severe, Victor Nuno back in the

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Speaker 4: How you doing, Victor, I'm doing awesome, Jesse. Yeah, back

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from the draft and ready to get back into the

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team preview episodes and yeah, this is a great one

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to do that with. How you doing, my friend doing great?

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Speaker 3: Doing great? Yeah, I hope everybody's enjoyed these draft episodes.

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Rookie drafts are still a little ways away. It's always

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time to keep thinking about the teams and keep preparing

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for the big show. And every other podcast, Victor I've

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noticed is going off the air. Every hockey podcast has

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is off the ear. They cleared out for us, Victor.

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Everybody just clear out led Victor Cook. That's how this

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is going to go for the rest of the summer.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I'm good with that. That's sound good.

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Speaker 3: Since everybody else has disappeared, the only place left in

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Fantasy Hockey Life Discord. Don't check my notes, just assume

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and there are other things that people can enjoy. Victor

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a bunch of bonus content over on Patreon.

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One of the best things is getting access to the website,

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So it's going to be great. The other thing that

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It's a really fun league and a lot of great

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Speaker 3: Yeah, get in your folks. You will be drafting. You

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will not be necessarily taking over an orphan team. I

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believe that it will be drafting from scratch for the

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people who are coming in at this point. Don't feel

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like I don't know what team am I taking over.

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You probably be drafted from scratch to this point, and

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that's a startup man. That is a lot of fun, Victor.

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What else?

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Speaker 5: A lot of fun is talking to Washington Capitals, which

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do right after this break, welcoming to the show, Dan

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Homie of Locked On Capitals, Ready to talk some Washington Caps.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, Dan, I'm doing good, gentlemen. How are

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you good? As is known to Victor and our listeners,

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I consider myself a Cap supporter, so it's good to

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be talking Capitals today. But I got to say, this

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was an extremely improbable season to me, and I think

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that single handedly probably the capitals are going to ruin

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several franchises who are going to think that this is

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a replicable process by which they can rebuild on the

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fly and not go into probably a proper tank. The

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fact that they were able to do this one step back,

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three step forward retool coming off a season before where

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they snuck into the playoffs with an eight seed with

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a horrible gold differential, and then they were the Eastern

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Conference one seed, the President Trophies runners up, and a

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lot of things broke right. Trades, prospect arrivals, breakthrough growth.

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There were, of course, so Nicholas backs from Tgo. She's

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careers effectively ended. That cleared up a lot of cap room.

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Sad to see those guys go. And we'll talk about

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Ovechkin here in a couple of minutes, but suffice it

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to say there was a lot of national attention on

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this team throughout the winner. And it felt to me,

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and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but it

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seemed like the momentum maybe waned a little bit right

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as they got to the playoffs and it was a

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little bit tough. They made it through that first round fine,

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but then I don't know, it seemed like maybe they

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peaked a little bit earlier in the season. But anyway,

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is this the Washington Capital sort of a transformed team

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ready to be a juggernaut again this year or is

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this going to be a plexiglass principal thing where the

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Caps had such a big breakthrough but they're going to

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have to slide back a little bit before whatever happens

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long term.

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Speaker 2: Well, listen, I think they want to hit the ground running.

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that they did the unprobable thing making it to the playoffs,

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the first team to clinch a playoff spot, the last

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team to clinch one the year before that, winning the Metro,

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winning the Eastern Conference. They did it the risky moves

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that Brian McClellan talked about the summer before, talking pure

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Luke Dubois and a lot of people going, man, what

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are the Capitals doing here? Taking a bite out of

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that eight year contract from the Kings, and then Chickrin

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and Logan Thompson that I'm McLellan came out swinging, and

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to be clear here he said that he was going

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to be active. I had no idea that he was

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going to be that active, but you saw a lot

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of players take a step forward. But now, like you

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talked about, is can you duplicate that. You see some

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teams out there that continue to get better. I'm talking Panthers,

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I'm talking Golden Knights. But you take a look at

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the Capitals. We're entering into ostensibly the last season of

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Alexevechkin as a Capital, and at free agency here we

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saw a lot of key departures and as we found

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out today, the Capitals did not win the Nikolai Eeler's sweepstakes.

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A little bit of hope has dashed for me there,

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a little bit. But to this is a young and

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up and coming team that it's going to be interesting

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to see the tactic that newer Ish GM Chris Patrick

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wants to take. Is he gonna take a page from

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Brian McClellan and try to make some big moves. I

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guess what we've seen thus far is we haven't seen

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a whole lot of that. We've seen some depth moves.

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in Hershey. But I think you're going to start to

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see the youth take a step forward this season. I'm

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talking Leonard I'm talking Andrew Crystal, maybe a bit further

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out Ilia Protus Cole Hudson, these kind of guys that

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we take a look at the Capital's organization. For the

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longest time, it was revered as one of the older

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team's roster wise in the NHL. It seems like they're

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flipping the script. And they're doing that because Nick Baxter

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and went on the LTI our last season and tj

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this whole thing got fast tracked based on something that

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I don't think that they really planned for. So they're

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going to try to duplicate that this season. But it's

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interesting you do see teams around the NHL that are

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trying to take a page from that book see Bruins,

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see Penguins that today say hey, the Capitals did that.

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I think we can do that too. But as far

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as the Capitals are concerned, I want them to take

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a step forward, but a bit concerned that they might

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take a step back, just because as we record this

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in July, they haven't taken any big swings. There's been

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some big extensions, but there has not been any key,

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big time acquisitions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely will Yeah. The Penguins are Yeah. The Penguins

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bruds are definitely two teams I'm thinking of that may

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have this backfire on them, but we'll see. Anything could happen.

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The easiest question in the world. I'm starting with Alex

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Slovechkin today because we usually start from the top here.

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It's not long. He did it? Can he do that

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for another year? Dan us In.

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Speaker 2: The one thing that Tom Wilson and John Carlson and

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Tgoshi before that is they said, never doubt the big man.

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If you take a look back to last season, got

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off to his slowest start and the goal scoring department

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had what like eight or nine goals. At the All

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Star break, went out to Dubai, rode around on a

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camel and came back and just lit it on fire.

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That going into this season thirty nine years old, there

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are some questions for me what kind of player he

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was going to be, but put up some big goals.

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Forty four goals at thirty nine years old. Seems to

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be aging like a fine wine.

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Speaker 3: He does have.

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Speaker 2: This next season is his final contract under season and listen,

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I think that this is going to be this is

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going to be his final season. I know that to

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some people, some Capitals fans looking at this, say he

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might sign an extension. And to that, I say, for

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what he caught in passed Gretzky, his trophy case is

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full of all of his accomplishments, that he did some

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great things this season. But I think I don't. I

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think he's going to be able to ACCOMPLI plish something similar.

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Initial projection for me is that he will score I'm

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going to say around thirty goals this next season. I

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do expect him to take a step back. But and

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I say that because going into the fall in September,

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he's going to be forty years old, and as the

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adage goes, father time is undefeated.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, a little bit on the younger side.

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We'll go to Dylan Strom the next guy, and he

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certainly solidified his role as the Capitol's first line center

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and Aveskin's primary setup man with his first point per

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game season. He's an efficient scorer, but his relatively low

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shot at hit rates make his upside in multi category

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leagues a little bit lower. He also has some pretty

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poor defensive metrics, even though he drives offense really well.

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making him a steal in CAP leagues if he can

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continue to be a point per game player. So, Dan,

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do you think Strum can continue to score at that

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higher rate or will he regress a little bit along

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with Avetchkin.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I think he's going to actually do better than

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he did last year. And I know that I saw

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those advanced metrics as well. But he was tasked with

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big things this last season, taken over from for Nick Baxtrom,

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playing on that first line for Alexevechkin quite a thing

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to take over, and he did a great job doing that,

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finished with twenty nine goals fifty three assists in eighty

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two games. Played a lot till there a guy that

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was put on the scrap heap by the Chicago Blackhawks.

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You got to think, to a certain extent, they're kicking

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Themselve over that. But I think he has played very

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well a part of the next wave. And when I

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say next wave, he's not the youngest guy on the team.

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But there is going to be a change. You can

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expect to see Carlson and Ov step away here soon.

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That you need guys that have experience, like Dylan Strome

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the ultimate competitor, and like I say, there's a reason

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that he was tasked with being playing on that first

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line with Alexovechkin. I continue to see him get better

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and I actually think his numbers are going to get

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even that much better. And an unsung u is the

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leader of this team, Spencer Carberry the guy that's pushing

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the bottons, pulling the strings, putting the players in the

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right spot, and that I think to a large extent,

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that is why you have seen him play that great.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of players who played great last season, Alexi protests,

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holy cow, this guy was the breakout player of the

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year for the Capitals, maybe even across the league. He

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was outstanding. He also put up really good two way metrics.

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and pretty outstanding offensively at even strength on the penalty kill.

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On his way to thirty goals and sixty six points,

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he had very little power play time, which is a

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single power play point all season. He did shoot pretty high.

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one percent, so there might be some regression there, but

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he's on a steal of a contract in cap leagues,

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and if he can continue to do at least as

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well as last season and maybe even bump up those

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power play point numbers. He could have a pretty monster season. So, Dan,

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he earn that power play time he keep that points up?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, take a look at him putting up career numbers

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as last year thirty goals and sixty six points to

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knocking it out of the park. Another player I expect

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to see taking a step forward. If you take a

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look at where he slotted in. Oftentimes he is playing

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on that first line with Strom and Alexovechkin. And listen,

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a guy just a couple of years ago, few years

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ago here that he played that well in training camp

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that he earned a spot. There was never any big

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plans for him to do anything, but he played so

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well that they couldn't send him back down to Hershey,

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he was just playing that well. Like I say, you

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continue to see his game grow and grow.

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Speaker 3: Thirty goals.

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Speaker 2: If someone had Alexei prod Is scoring thirty goals on

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their Bengo card to start the season, I want to

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see receipts. Because the projection for him was that he

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was going to play on that third line, but he

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just played so well. He dominated that That is why

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he's in that position. I do expect him to get

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to get some more power play time, but to a

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big picture, I expect to see his game continue to grow.

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It was the high water mark of his career. And

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that's not hyperbole. That is quite an accomplishment. Thirty goals

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twenty three twenty four to six goals twenty two to

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twenty three, four goals and in thirty three games in

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twenty one to twenty two three goals, So to jump

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from six and that was in a seventy eight game

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games played in that season to thirty. My that is

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quite an accomplishment. And he's that guy. He's that big guy.

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He's the big guy with a big frame, but is

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not intrinsically a tough guy. I think that to a

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certain extent, the Capitals were culping that he would have

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some of that physical flare, that toughness. But he is

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a great skater, a great goal scorer. His younger brother,

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Ilia Protis Is is lighting it on fire as well

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that he will be joining the Capitals here I think

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in the relative near future as well. But as far

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as Protus is concerned, the proofs in the pudding. You

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see where he slided in, oftentimes playing that first line

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that I expect to see his game even get bigger

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and better this next time season.

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Speaker 3: One major win win trade last off season, Pierre Luke

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Dubois for Darcy Kemper. Both guys really thrived in their

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new environs and PLD coming into Washington the twenty six

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year old in some ways, it shouldn't have been too surprised,

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and he put up basically the season that he did

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two times in Winnipeg as far as his scoring was concerned.

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But after La he was really buried to the point

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I remember last offseason there was talk of him being

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waived or stretched before the trade happened or all he

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proceeded to do was put up the best goals above

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replacement on a one seeded team. He was the best

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in the advanced metrics for the Caps last year, and

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he centered Connor MacMichael and Tom Wilson for the bulk

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of the season. We'll get to those gentlemen. But a

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stretch with Protas coincided with Protas his best part of

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the season. Actually, if you look at some of the

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with or without yous, and Duboy ended up getting Selky Bolts.

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I guess the question I would have on du Blis

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He doesn't shoot the puck a whole lot, which might

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be nice for a guy who shot fourteen percent last

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year to do a little bit more. But can du

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Bois be as good next year as he was this year?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the question, isn't it. I remember last summer

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that was the big swing that former GM Brian McClellan made,

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and it was a deal that sent peer Luke Dubois

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out to the Kings for Darcy or excuse me at

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PLD to the Capital's Darcy Kemper out to the Kings

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and listen, Darcy Kemper just never fit in with the Capital.

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So I think a lot of Capitals fans were happy

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to see him go on to the next one. But

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peer Luke Dubois was met with a lot of skepticism.

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What are the Capitals doing taking a bite out of

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that eight year contract? A guy that's a cancer in

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the locker room, a guy that mails it in, he

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only plays when he wants to play. I didn't see

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any evidence of that. I guess I would say that

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I would like to have seen more from him in

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the playoffs like a lot of other Capitals, but to

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put up twenty goals is quite an accomplishment for him,

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and his leadership is the big thing as well. As

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you saw Connor McMichael's game grow by leaps and bounds,

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and that was due, make no mistake about it, because

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Peer Luke Dubois was the guy at the center on

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that position. But putting up twenty goals the season before

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putting up sixteen to twenty seven, which ties his high

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water mark with the eighteen nineteen season that I'm I

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was pleasantly surprised because some of my fellow Locked on

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hosts were laughing, they were jeering people, or like, what

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are the Capitals doing that? I was That's the one

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thing when I talk about the next season for the

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Capitals and what they're going to be like, I don't

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know what kind of moves are going to come between

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here and there. What kind of Peer Luke Dubois esque

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type of deal does Chris Patrick have up his sleeve?

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But as far as peld is concerned, pleasantly surprised, can

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he continue to keep going with that? I guess that

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is the question a lot of these contracts, they age

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like a cart and of milk. I'm not necessarily in

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love with Logan Thompson signing that lengthy of a contract

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knowing that it's going to be diminished returns after a while.

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But living in the here right now, I like the

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peer Luke Dubois deal and expect him to take steps

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forward or at least maintain what he did last season.

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And there's some questions on Connor McMichael if he's going

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to be that third line center, but if he continues

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to be that second line left wing, I expect that

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here Luke Dubois is going to continue to make that

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a knockout second line, with most likely Tom Wilson playing

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on that right line again. But I do expect his

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goal scoring pace to continue. And it's the leadership, it's

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the goal scoring. And I hear what you're saying about.

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He got off to a slow start in the goal

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scoring department, got quite a few assists, but really turned

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it on in the latter part of the season, as

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evident by the twenty goals that he did score that

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I do expect him to continue to knock it out

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of the park because last season with forty six assists.

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That was the high water mark in his career as

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far as assists are concerned, and also in points sixty

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six points was the high water mark or is the

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high water mark of his career so far. That is

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good growth and a good return for the Capitals. A

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deal that sent Darcy camp who found a great home

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with the Kings and put the Kings in a pretty

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good position, just didn't work out with the Capitals and

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return the Capitals got that second line center stability that

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they've been looking for years. Players have come and gone

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that have tried to fill that hole. In talking kuznets Off,

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who has more issues than readers digest, he ended up

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going out to Russia and now wants to come back

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here that I'm glad that it's pure Loup Dubois in

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the mix instead of if Genny kuznets Off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, and you mentioned him Tom Wilson, there

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is still reason in my mind to sweat that long

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contract that he's still got ahead of him all those years.

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But Tom Wilson, in another excellent season thirty three goals,

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second on the team, continues to pile up the hits.

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Didn't even get suspended once hey put up the little

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this many days since our last incident. Signed very valuable

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to us fantasy types, of course, with all the perferal

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value he gets out of those hits, but he really

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seems to have settled into his veteran leader role on

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the team very well to remember for a lifetime, having

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the primary assist on number eight ninety five. What did

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you make of Tom Wilson's year this year? And can

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he repeated he is the.

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Speaker 2: Heir apparent to be the captain of the Capitals when

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Alex Evechkin hangs up the skates, And you're right, he's

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matured a lot. When he first entered the league, he

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was getting suspended, faced all kinds of punishment because he

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was that tough guy. He was the guy that felt

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like he needed to answer the bell to every fourth

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liner call up that wanted to make a name for himself.

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You think you're tough, you're going to have to fight me.

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And one of the things he said is he realized,

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as he's matured, is that he's better served on the ice,

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of course, than he is in the penalty box. That

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he doesn't have to answer, like I said, to every

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guy that's trying to make a name for himself as

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a tough guy. Rempy, I'm talking to you that you

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don't always have to indulge in those kind of fights.

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That he is a legitimate goalscorer. He is a unicorn

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in the modern NHL, and he gets a lot of

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flak around the metro to in the NHL at large

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that he's just this Ryan Reeves tough guy. But take

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a look at his numbers. Is Reeves putting up thirty

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three goals? Are any of these is Rampy putting up

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thirty three goals? These kind of guys that he is

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a leader, he's a tough guy, and he's the guy

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that is going to be the leader of this team

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for years to come. And he's been annoyed that I've

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talked about that for years and the current captain, Alexevechkin

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has said as much as well, as he's the guy

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he's going to be the captain of this Capitals. But

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if you take a look at him, another guy that

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continues to put up big numbers, thirty three goals the

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high water mark in his career, that he continues to

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just keep knocking it out of the park. And if

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the thing of It is with Tom Wilson that I

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really like about it is he he's to the point

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in his career that he doesn't necessarily need to drop

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the mits. He can just skate into the vicinity of

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a fight and kind of disperse, just like with him

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coming into the area that sometimes those fights are diminished.

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But I think that his game has ow. You didn't

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see as many fights from him this last season. He'll

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drop the mits if he feels like one of his

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teammates is getting knocked around a little bit, but a

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big picture, He's got other guys on the team that'll

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do that from time to time. Dylan mcklrath is one

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of the tough guys on the team that I think

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the capitals are structured in a way now that he

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doesn't have to be the guy that's fighting all the time,

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just in the same way that Alex Ovechkin in his

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younger day dropped the mits a whole lot more and

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Tom Wilson was the guy to take over the reins

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of that. Now Tom Wilson is getting to the point

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of his career that he.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't have to.

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Speaker 2: But talking about the contract, I'm loving it, and I

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know I'm looking I'm saying that with Capitals colored glasses on.

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Speaker 3: There was a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of angst among CAP's nation about is there the

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possibility that Tom Wilson tests the open market and leaves.

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He said all the right things that he wants to

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be a capital forever. But of course he's going to

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say that right that. He's not gonna say, I'm going

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to test the open market and see, you know what

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the market brings. He's not Connor McDavid at the end

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of I say that hyperbolically here, but I think that

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Tom Wilson is a true capital. He could have gone

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somewhere else and got paid a whole lot more because

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everyone around the NHL doesn't like him. But there's not

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one of the other thirty one teams in the NHL

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that if they found out that their team acquired Tom

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Wilson wouldn't be the first person in line to go

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out and buy his jersey. He's that kind of player.

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He's the heart and soul. He is the heartbeat in

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a lot of ways of this team. And that's not

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something that's easily quantifiable. If you want to just take

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a look at the metrics, they'll speak for themselves. But

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the things that aren't as easily quantifiable, like leadership and

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good mentor for some of the younger players on the team.

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That is what truly makes him a diamond in the rough.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Connor McMichael one more guy. He's become a top sixer,

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a good top sixer, and I guess you'd say this

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is his breakout season. Is his points nearly doubled from

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thirty three to fifty seven even strength defense O Connor

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continues to be not so great at least in the

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advanced stats, but he's frequently part of excellent offense for

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the team, and so things are turning up. How much

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more upside is there for Connor McMichael and will it

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be at winger center?

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Speaker 2: Listen, I've been drinking the Connor McMichael kool aid for

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quite some time here. I knew that he just needed

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to be given the proper opportunity and he would take

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it to the next level. And he did that under

478
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the previous head coach of Peter Love. The mandate for

479
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,880
this team has changed. When Peter Lovuolet was here, the

480
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,799
mandate was to get as much as you possibly can

481
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:36,200
out of that rock.

482
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Speaker 3: The red era.

483
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 2: I'm talking Ovechkin and Carlson and Baxter Minoshi, and that

484
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,960
only went so far. And I think that for Peter Lobolett,

485
00:23:45,079 --> 00:23:47,279
his mandate was to get as much out of that

486
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,920
twenty eighteen cores as possible. That failed, they missed the playoffs.

487
00:23:52,079 --> 00:23:55,559
And when Spencer Carberry came in here that ushered in

488
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,720
a whole new mindset. It entered in a whole level

489
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of optimism. And one of the players that benefited the

490
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,279
most from that is Connor McMichael. We know that to

491
00:24:06,319 --> 00:24:09,559
Spencer Carberry was the head coach for the Bears and

492
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also the Echl Sting Rays for the Capitals as well,

493
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,559
and the youngest coach in the NHL at the time,

494
00:24:15,799 --> 00:24:19,839
great rapport with the young players, and it was his utilization.

495
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,960
It was Spencer Carberry having faith in him. Again some

496
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,759
of the things that aren't as easily quantifiable that I

497
00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:29,079
think that he was leading with confidence and it's one

498
00:24:29,079 --> 00:24:31,319
of the things that I said all season that it

499
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,680
was confidence, and he came out and said it at

500
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,000
the end of the season that I was playing more

501
00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:38,359
confidently by the end of the season, and a younger

502
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,160
guy in the league when he first got his start,

503
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,119
he had some call ups he got sent down to Hershey,

504
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,519
but he continued to work on his game. He was

505
00:24:45,559 --> 00:24:47,119
the guy that was a bit of a smaller guy,

506
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,680
got pushed off the puck rather easily, put the work

507
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,960
in and when Spencer Carberry was here made the Capitals

508
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his forever home. There's no thought that Connor McMichael is

509
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,599
going to get sent down to Hershey or something like that.

510
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,880
He is legit guy here and you know that confidence.

511
00:25:03,039 --> 00:25:05,279
And also, like we spoke of earlier, playing on that

512
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,960
second line with a great leader in Pere Luke Dubois,

513
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:12,079
that the proofs in the pudding. There twenty six goals

514
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,759
on the season, that's the high water mark for him.

515
00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:16,400
I know that he's only been in the league since

516
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,359
the twenty twenty twenty one season, but quite a jump

517
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,000
from eighteen goals to twenty six thirty one assists, fifty

518
00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:26,440
seven points. And to answer your question, I think that

519
00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:30,559
what happens between now and the start of the season

520
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,920
is going to determine, you know, where he's going to be.

521
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,400
Is he going to be that third line center that's

522
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,319
his native position, that's where he wants to play, or

523
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,319
is he going to be that second line left wing?

524
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,720
Are the Capitals going to go out and address that

525
00:25:43,759 --> 00:25:47,799
third line center position. The most glaring weakness of the

526
00:25:47,839 --> 00:25:50,799
Capitals this past season was the third line in general,

527
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,079
but to drill down on it more specifically, was the

528
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,559
third line center position. They brought Lars ellerin. That was

529
00:25:57,599 --> 00:26:00,319
not Lars Eller of twenty eighteen. That was not the

530
00:26:00,319 --> 00:26:03,039
guy that scored the goal in the Stanley Cup. Connor

531
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,480
McMichael got a kick at the can in the playoffs

532
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,079
and I like his game and when you see him

533
00:26:08,079 --> 00:26:10,920
play at the center position, you can tell that is

534
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,680
where he is most comfortable going into camp in the fall.

535
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,880
Hendrick slap here another guy that's going to be battling

536
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,559
for a spot on this team.

537
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 3: How many times?

538
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 2: How many years are they going to try to retread

539
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,279
the Hendricks LaPier Tiger. But Connor McMichael is the front

540
00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:28,839
runner for that third line center position. When you take

541
00:26:28,839 --> 00:26:30,759
a look at the moves, I had high hopes that

542
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,319
it was they were going to be they were going

543
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,160
to land eelers.

544
00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:33,759
Speaker 3: Not the case.

545
00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: There's also Jack Rosslovic talk out there. I think that

546
00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:39,960
he is the front runner, like I said, for that

547
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,640
third line center position. And big picture thirty thousand foot view.

548
00:26:43,759 --> 00:26:46,799
Capitals fans were all caught up on on eelers and

549
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,720
is it going to be Jack Rosslovic or fill in

550
00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:51,559
the blank free agent out there is they might have

551
00:26:51,759 --> 00:26:54,519
the right guy in house. Maybe an easy fix you

552
00:26:54,599 --> 00:26:58,000
can put Andrew Krystal at that second line left wing

553
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,160
and Connor McMichael at the third line center and ostensibly

554
00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:03,680
on paper in pencil as I write this in July,

555
00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:06,680
I think would be a really good fix. That's how

556
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,640
I have it sketched out. I think that a lot

557
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,359
of the different players that were available are already being

558
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,359
spoken for. They're going to the Golden Knights are getting better,

559
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,640
the Hurricanes are getting better, and the Panthers continue to dominate.

560
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,119
That the Capitals might be really getting ways deep into

561
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,119
going young this year that they might not go out

562
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,440
and get that veteran at the end of the day.

563
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,359
So I think that Connor McMichael is going to be

564
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,920
a big piece in that. I have him penciled in

565
00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:34,759
at that third line center position. Like I said, with

566
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,400
Andrew Crystal playing that second line left wing, I guess

567
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,720
it remains to be seen. Maybe Hendrix's lop here will

568
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,359
just surprise everyone and say, look at me. It's not

569
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,160
only that we could go into the weeds here, there's Mirshnishenko.

570
00:27:45,559 --> 00:27:47,519
There's all these different kind of guys that are vying for.

571
00:27:47,759 --> 00:27:50,839
But I like Connor McMichael's game, always loved his game.

572
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,640
I knew that all he really needed was the proper

573
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,359
opportunity and he has had that under Spencer Carberry.

574
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, great stuff on him, and we're going to

575
00:28:01,039 --> 00:28:04,640
switch to one of the younger guys, Ryan Leonard. Of course,

576
00:28:04,759 --> 00:28:07,079
Leonard made the jump from Boston College after finishing his

577
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,079
second straight thirty goal season, getting in nine regular season

578
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,160
games and eight playoff games with the Capitals. He had

579
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,680
some good expected numbers, but the actual production wasn't quite there.

580
00:28:16,759 --> 00:28:19,079
He had one empty net goal and a playoff assist

581
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,640
that was pretty nice. He did stay involved with the

582
00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:24,279
game with a good shot at hit production given his

583
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,720
ice time. But of course we want to know what

584
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,920
his opportunity and role is going to be next season.

585
00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:31,160
So Dan, what do you think that is going to

586
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,839
be for Leonard next season? Where do you think he'll

587
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,799
fit in the lineup and will he get more minutes?

588
00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: Where I have him penciled in, is going to be

589
00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:40,680
that third line right wing That's what we saw from

590
00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:43,000
him at the tail end of the season, and I

591
00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:44,640
guess it depends on what we see out of him

592
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,359
out of camp. I think that if he takes his

593
00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:49,480
game to the next level, he could bump up in

594
00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:51,200
the lineup a little bit. There was a lot of

595
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:53,839
hope around Capitals fans towards the tail end of the

596
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,640
season that we saw what he did in back to

597
00:28:55,759 --> 00:28:58,240
back seasons at Boston College putting up thirty goals, that

598
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,000
we want a taste of that the Capitals right now,

599
00:29:01,119 --> 00:29:05,359
what kind of injection offensive injection would that give to

600
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,880
the Capitals and the playoffs? As it turns out that

601
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:10,039
wasn't the case. It was jumping out of the frying

602
00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:12,400
pan into the fire. Going from the NCAAA to the

603
00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:15,000
NHL is not always a seamless transition.

604
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:16,559
Speaker 3: And what did he do?

605
00:29:16,759 --> 00:29:19,839
Speaker 2: He put up one one empty net goal is what

606
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,559
he put up in his short, short snippet with the

607
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,359
Capitals towards the tail end of the season. Now I

608
00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:28,400
understand why the Capitals did that. Boston College had wrapped

609
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,599
up their season and the Capitals are all in on

610
00:29:31,759 --> 00:29:34,319
the future and his figures to be a key part

611
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,480
of that future. But maybe that was a bit unrealistic

612
00:29:38,599 --> 00:29:41,720
to expect that kind of great production from him. But

613
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,599
next season, he's going to have a full camp and

614
00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:47,240
I expect him to be on the team all season long.

615
00:29:47,359 --> 00:29:50,079
There's not going to have to be any concern about

616
00:29:50,119 --> 00:29:51,880
if he's going to get any playing time. I think

617
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,720
the Capitals are fully vested in him picked eighth overall,

618
00:29:56,279 --> 00:29:58,680
that he's there in the twenty twenty three season, that

619
00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:01,599
the capitals were right for him. Last year, Former GM

620
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,039
Brian McClellan said, whenever he's ready, just I'm ready to

621
00:30:05,119 --> 00:30:06,960
put him in there. But he wanted to battle for

622
00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:10,319
one more title at the NCAA level, plus dominating on

623
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,200
the world stage. So I expect him to take steps

624
00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:16,440
forward again penciled in, I think that he is going

625
00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:19,599
to be third line right wing. But again, what do

626
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,680
we see in cam from him. I'm always surprised, but

627
00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:25,480
I think the ceiling for him is high. He has

628
00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:28,920
some of the similar characteristics and attributes. I guess you

629
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,039
could say to Tom Wilson relatively speaking, in a lot

630
00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:33,799
of ways, I think his skill set is better than

631
00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:36,200
Tom Wilson's, but he does bring a bit of a

632
00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:39,480
snarl a great skater, got a good release that I'm

633
00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:42,000
loving his game. And going back to twenty twenty three,

634
00:30:42,039 --> 00:30:45,319
there was a lot of names circled there, Metve Mishkoff,

635
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,519
I remember the Capitals. Were they going to land him

636
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,039
or Benson? There was other a lot of names associated

637
00:30:50,079 --> 00:30:53,160
to the Capitals. But big picture, looking in the rearview mirror,

638
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,640
I'm happy that they selected Ryan Leonard because he was

639
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,319
the player that available and the best player available that

640
00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:00,599
I think that his game is going to grow and

641
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,720
he is a part of that next wave and I

642
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,839
expect him to take big steps forward. How much I

643
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,759
don't know. I don't even want to really shoot a.

644
00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 3: Dart at the wall.

645
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,279
Speaker 2: As far as goals expected, because of such a small

646
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,559
sample size, I know what he did at Boston College,

647
00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:18,039
but it's really hard to speculate at this point how

648
00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:20,079
many goals he all put up for the big team,

649
00:31:20,119 --> 00:31:20,720
the Capitals.

650
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,839
Speaker 3: Well, let's flip over to the blue line. Dan and

651
00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:27,599
John Carlson continues to age pretty gracefully, putting up the

652
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,680
second most assists on the team at thirty five years old,

653
00:31:31,119 --> 00:31:34,359
continue to be the highest scorer, the highest minutes demand

654
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,200
this year, and spent the second half of the year

655
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,440
basically partnering with rasmussandin who will come up a little

656
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,720
bit later in the show, he had a very positive

657
00:31:42,839 --> 00:31:47,680
impact on even strength and power play offense. So we'll

658
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,680
be talking about the elephant in the room with Carlson

659
00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:51,640
in what role he's going to have in terms of

660
00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:55,279
a certain other defenseman who's definitely had himself a great year,

661
00:31:55,359 --> 00:31:58,039
But could we get another similar year out of Carlson

662
00:31:58,359 --> 00:32:00,759
his last on that long time track that he was

663
00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:05,519
on in twenty twenty five twenty six, you did see.

664
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: A bit of diminished returns on him, I guess I'm

665
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,440
going to say in the playoffs. But as far as

666
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:13,839
John Carlson is concerned, number seventy four is one of

667
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,799
the greatest to ever lace up the skates for the Capitals.

668
00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:20,279
On the blue line, a minute monster routinely plays over

669
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,920
twenty twenty five minutes a night, and they did their

670
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,519
best to try to fix that by bringing in Chikrin

671
00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:28,079
and different guys to try to alleviate some of that pressure.

672
00:32:28,119 --> 00:32:29,839
But the thing of it is, you can put anyone

673
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,119
out of the ice and put him out there on

674
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,160
a lot of minutes, but if you want quality minutes.

675
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,640
In a lot of ways, look no further than John Carlson,

676
00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:39,799
the key piece on the Capitol's blue line first season

677
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,359
for seasons and seasons there. But what's an interesting thing.

678
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,319
We are entering into a contract year for John Carlson

679
00:32:48,519 --> 00:32:52,000
and the Capitals were non committal, and John Carlson was

680
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:54,279
noncommittal about coming back to the team. He didn't know

681
00:32:54,359 --> 00:32:56,400
what direction the team is going. Are they going full

682
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,720
on youth movement or do they want some skilled veterans

683
00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:02,759
around to enter the team. As far as his points

684
00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:06,200
in his production, I think that it is sustainable. But

685
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:08,400
at what point are we going to see a dip?

686
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,000
In a lot of ways, I think that the Capitals

687
00:33:11,079 --> 00:33:13,880
held on to Nick baxterrom and Tgoshi for too long.

688
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,720
They spent the last season under contract on the LTI R.

689
00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:20,119
What kind of return could the Capitals have gotten on

690
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,200
those two players had they traded him three four years ago?

691
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,200
It was unthinkable back then. So the same thing for

692
00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:29,960
John Carlson, and is a bit of a hard topic

693
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:32,680
for me to talk about because oftentimes I get grief

694
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,559
from Capitals fans on it is if there is no

695
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:39,039
plan for John Carlson to come back to the team

696
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,119
say that they have no big picture of seeing him

697
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,240
come back, no extension, Then why not trade him to

698
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:46,319
get some kind of return, because if he makes it

699
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,960
to next summer, the Capitals.

700
00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:52,359
Speaker 3: Get zero and it still holds value. Do we want

701
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:52,640
to wait?

702
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:54,799
Speaker 2: And I say we when I'm talking to a Capital's

703
00:33:54,839 --> 00:33:58,759
guy here to Capitals fans. Did the Capital's organization do

704
00:33:58,839 --> 00:34:00,400
they want to wait to a point that all of

705
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,839
a sudden he faces a major injury in his kind

706
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,880
of sideline for the rest of the season and is

707
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,639
diminished goods? Or would it be more advantageous to move

708
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,039
him now while he still holds value. Now that's tough

709
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:16,280
because they're finding a guy like John Carlson isn't plug

710
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,159
and play. There are prospects in the pipeline. Vinnie i Orio,

711
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,599
of course we've heard about for years and years, and

712
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,199
Cole Hodson and Ryan Chesley, these guys. How many of

713
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,039
these guys are nhlready making it to the postseason. We

714
00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:32,760
were told the whole time that you know, the defense,

715
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,639
the blue line has just this over abundance of talent.

716
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:36,639
Speaker 3: But who did they reach for.

717
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: They reached for Alex Alexiev And let's say he left

718
00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:42,000
a lot to be desired that it is a tough

719
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,679
thing to look at with John Carlson is I know

720
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,639
what he means to this team, big minutes, big points,

721
00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:50,360
is involved in pretty much every aspect out of the

722
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,000
ice that he's not an easy replacement, So I understand

723
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,360
the reluctance to want to move on from him. I expect, say,

724
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,960
going into next seasons he's on the Capitals all see

725
00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:03,159
and I expect, similar to what we've seen from him

726
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,440
his entire career, great things. But with that I still

727
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:10,519
hold true to I think the Capitals would be better

728
00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:12,840
off trading him to try to get some kind of

729
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,960
value for him somewhere, because to say he makes it

730
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:16,599
through the end of the season, what are they going

731
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:18,880
to sign him to some piecemeal one year, two year

732
00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:21,679
deal here band aid together. I think we're past that.

733
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,559
I think that the Capitals are involved in a youth movement.

734
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,039
I think he's been a big contributor, But at this

735
00:35:27,199 --> 00:35:29,280
point I would like to see what kind of return

736
00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:31,519
we can get for John Carlson and give him a

737
00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:33,480
shot at trying to make it to the playoffs or

738
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,800
a stay on the Cup somewhere else, and the Capitals

739
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,480
can try to bolster either an NHL ready player or

740
00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:40,519
their prospect pool.

741
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, modified no trade clause, so Johnny, you have to

742
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,320
sign off on that, but we could write, we could

743
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,320
see could happen Jacob Chickrin. That was quite a thing

744
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,920
to have happened. The trade for Chickrin feels to me,

745
00:35:53,079 --> 00:35:55,639
feels like the thing that turned the Capitol season in

746
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,159
some ways, to come in with the guy that talented

747
00:35:58,679 --> 00:36:03,079
above what would have been. Only Cale mccarr and Zach

748
00:36:03,079 --> 00:36:07,199
Warinsky among defensemen, scored more goals than Jacob Chickern's twenty.

749
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:09,639
It was a career year for the twenty six year

750
00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:13,639
old forty seven points in seventy four games, and the

751
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,840
Caps rewarded him an eight nine extension that started two

752
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,119
days ago. In a nine year career. His only prior

753
00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:24,639
playoff experience was a cameo in the bubble for Arizona,

754
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,320
so it was really his first taste getting to that level.

755
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,920
And it's just a question of his chicker in the

756
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,800
heir apparent to Carlson and what are you anticipating for

757
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:33,840
Chicker in the year to come.

758
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: I do expect him to take on a bigger role,

759
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,719
and for sure, that was a move that was the

760
00:36:41,159 --> 00:36:43,679
energized the Capitals, and he had been on the Capitol's

761
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,039
radar even before he went to Ottawa. Just didn't work out,

762
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:50,679
but definitely bolstered the Capitol's blue line. A guy that

763
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,239
is good defensively and a guy that's good offensively. And

764
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,559
oftentimes you can find a defensive player that's what he's

765
00:36:57,599 --> 00:36:59,760
good at. But to find a guy in the blue

766
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,559
line like Jacob Chickrin that can actually find the back

767
00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:05,599
of the net with twenty goals, that's quite an accomplishment,

768
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,280
Like you talked about, do you understand see the trend

769
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,719
going with all the players that we've talked about tonight

770
00:37:11,039 --> 00:37:14,840
putting up career numbers, They got a whole lot better

771
00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:18,280
last season. I expect that going into next season and

772
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,440
he very well could be that air apparent for the Capitals.

773
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,239
Now you hear different things. I talked a bit to

774
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:28,519
the guys from Locked On Senators and he didn't really

775
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:31,320
fit in with the Senators and for whatever reason, and

776
00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:34,440
just obviously took a step forward with the Capitals for

777
00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:37,079
whatever reason. Sometimes it's a change of scenery, a change

778
00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:39,119
of zip code. But in any event, he found his

779
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,840
place and he was rewarded with a very long contract,

780
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,079
and I'm always a bit skeptical and a bit reluctant,

781
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:48,239
and I know I have absolutely nothing to say about it,

782
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,800
but when you see a player sign that lengthy of

783
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,119
a contract, you're like, Wow, that's going to be good

784
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:56,679
for like maybe the first three years or so, But

785
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,239
what is that going to look like on the back

786
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,760
end of that. That's the hard part. That is just

787
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,960
that's a part of professional sports nowadays. You take a

788
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,440
look at all the deals that were signing, you take

789
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,920
a look at Marner's deal, just all these guys, it's

790
00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:10,159
unless you're a young guy trying to make a name

791
00:38:10,199 --> 00:38:13,800
for yourself, it's their lengthy contracts. So I think Chickrin

792
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,440
is deserving of it. And if there was any reluctance

793
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,760
going into the season, former genem Brian McClellan said, we

794
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,280
want to see how he fits in here, and did

795
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,360
Chickrien says, I want to see how I fit in

796
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,800
with the Capitols, And it was like both of them

797
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,760
didn't want to say I love you on the first date,

798
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,920
that you don't want to be that guy. But Chickrin

799
00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:33,920
there was in my mind, they're like, okay, he's been

800
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,519
good for a quarter of the season, He's been good

801
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:38,800
for half of the season, but how long can this

802
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,000
keep rolling? And he just kept getting better throughout the season.

803
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:46,199
Now we're there defensive gaffs that I saw for sure,

804
00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:49,000
But you can talk about that with any of the

805
00:38:49,039 --> 00:38:51,440
different players out on the ice. We see that with

806
00:38:51,519 --> 00:38:53,679
saying Dean from time to time as well. But if

807
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,320
there's a guy in the blue line, I'm going to

808
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,639
push my chips in on. It's a guy like Chickrin

809
00:38:58,039 --> 00:39:01,079
Sound defensively has been huge and puts up big points.

810
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,159
I'm loving it. I signed off on that, and I

811
00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:06,239
did a podcast after it with quite a bit of

812
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,800
optimism that if there was a guy that is deserving

813
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,440
of a lengthy contract, like I say normally against it,

814
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,679
I think that he was definitely deserving of it, all right.

815
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 4: Moving on to Rasmus Sandein, the twenty five year old

816
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,280
defenseman had pretty good two way metrics, playing a top

817
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,599
four role primarily with John Carlson. He played a minor

818
00:39:24,679 --> 00:39:26,840
role in both special team units and had decent but

819
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,280
unspectacular production with thirty points in eighty two games, right

820
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,920
in line with his career numbers. He doesn't really shoot,

821
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,280
her block that much and has doesn't shoot, but has

822
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,239
fairly average hits and blocks. So I guess the question

823
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,519
Dan is, with Carlson maybe not taking his prominent role,

824
00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:43,480
do you think Sandein can step into a little bit

825
00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:45,079
more of that production or is it all just going

826
00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:47,480
to go to Chickrin? So what does the future hold

827
00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:49,239
for Sandein in Washington?

828
00:39:51,079 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: I think he's going to continue to take steps forward

829
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,639
as well, and I think that he found his way

830
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,280
with the Capitals that wasn't a good fit for Toronto

831
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,440
and they were trying to get more out of him

832
00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:04,559
than they really could. And at times we saw him

833
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,679
on that first pairing with John Carlson's in a lot

834
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,719
of ways. Sometimes he plays better on that second where

835
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,760
the limelight isn't shine squarely on him, but he's recognized

836
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,760
his game. He said in an interview that when he

837
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,519
first started in the league, he tried to emulate Eric

838
00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:22,039
Carlson and he realized that he might be a guy

839
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:23,760
look up to, but that's just not the kind of

840
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,639
player that I am. When we talk about players that

841
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,760
are going to be the faces of the future on

842
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,559
the blue line, Rasmus Sanding is definitely in the mix

843
00:40:33,679 --> 00:40:36,199
there as well. So you take a look at him.

844
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,440
He is a guy that you know what to expect

845
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,920
on a night in and night out basis as sometimes

846
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,760
you see these guys go alter and you're like, what

847
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,719
kind of performance are we going to get out of

848
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,199
this guy or that guy? Nine times out of ten

849
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,280
you know exactly what you're going to get out of

850
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,599
Rasmus Anddeing and again he is going to be that

851
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,440
guy for the future for sure, and I expect his

852
00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:00,679
game to grow as well. But Toronto's loss, I guess

853
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:03,000
I'm going to say, is the Capital's gain and just

854
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:05,239
a big piece for the organization.

855
00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 4: Nice love to hear that. Let's shift over to the

856
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,960
crease the goalies. The Capitals are ranked twentieth and expected

857
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,119
goals against per sixty, but conceded the fifteenth ranked actual

858
00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:19,920
goals at five to five. So that tells us that

859
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,440
their goalies performed above expected, which is true, and both

860
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,360
of them had a pretty good season. Thompson's first with

861
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,159
the Capitals that's being traded with Vegas. He put up

862
00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:32,320
incredible twenty three to two and three record through January

863
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,519
before slowing down a bit and getting hurt towards then

864
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:38,000
the regular season finished fourth in VESNAV voting twenty five

865
00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:41,039
goals save above expected one point three nine Delta Fenwick.

866
00:41:41,519 --> 00:41:43,800
Really nice. So you mentioned the contract, you're one of

867
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,679
a five point eighty five million We'll see how that

868
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,440
rounds out towards the end. But clearly a good first season.

869
00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:52,280
Charlie Lingern not quite as impressive as the previous season

870
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,599
he did. He started out splitting starts with Thompson before

871
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,199
taking more of a backup roll and tell Thompson's injury

872
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,719
than he finished out with a little bit more his

873
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,159
goal save above expected five point four to nine and

874
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,800
point three six Delta Fenwick. He actually struggled to helpperform

875
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,000
the protection just a little bit, but overall he had

876
00:42:09,039 --> 00:42:11,440
a pretty decent impact. So do you think we'll see

877
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,400
the same splits next season, Dan, with Logan Thompson taking

878
00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:17,079
the majority of the share and Lincren's felling into more

879
00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:18,719
of a backup And do you think they can be

880
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,239
as effective as they were this season?

881
00:42:21,519 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: I do.

882
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,079
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a one B situation

883
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,599
and I know in a lot of ways that semantics

884
00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:29,480
what worked well for the Capitals and kind of modern

885
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:33,400
hockey is to alternate. Oftentimes, some of the older coaches

886
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,559
in the league, they like to continue to ride the

887
00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:38,119
hot hand, right I'm thinking like Broader back in the

888
00:42:38,199 --> 00:42:39,559
day where it was just what's going to be him

889
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:41,519
out in the net on any given night. But I

890
00:42:41,679 --> 00:42:44,239
think that if you can, if you have a great tandem,

891
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,760
let me preface it that way, then I think the

892
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,639
best thing to do is to alternate. I know that

893
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,760
a lot of teams don't have that luxury, they don't

894
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,280
even have really a great starter. But I think that

895
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,159
Logan Thompson caught me by surprise. I guess I'm going

896
00:42:57,199 --> 00:42:59,920
to say that when I found Darcy Kemper was going

897
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,599
I went out to LA I thought it was going

898
00:43:01,679 --> 00:43:03,920
to be Charlie Lingern and at the time number three

899
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,519
in the organization, Hunter Shepherd. But Brian McClellan looked at

900
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:09,719
that thirty thousand foot view and goes, I don't know

901
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,039
if I trust that Charlie Lingern was good at a

902
00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:14,719
vacuum and two seasons ago in December and then the

903
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,840
following season got the Capitals to the playoffs. But am

904
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,719
I going to put all my eggs in the basket

905
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,960
of a Charlie Lingren Hunter Shepherd tandem Hunter Shepherd knocked

906
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,679
it out of the park all the way from UMD

907
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:26,599
all the way up.

908
00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 3: To the Capitals.

909
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:28,639
Speaker 2: But he didn't do that.

910
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 3: He took a flyer.

911
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: I guess you could say on Logan Thompson a guy

912
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:35,760
that is familiar to the Capital's organization. And I think

913
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,320
that Logan Thompson liked the idea of coming to the

914
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,599
Capitals because he could get that opportunity to be the starter.

915
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,320
And I think that to a certain extent, there was

916
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:46,800
a little bit of and I don't know if it's

917
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,320
bad blood or just as sarcasm. I guess I couldn't

918
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,199
get a good read on it. Is that to the

919
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,679
Vegas Golden Knight said that the goalie is for the

920
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,280
Golden Knights get a lot of credit, but.

921
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,519
Speaker 3: It's not really them, it's the defense.

922
00:43:58,159 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 2: And he wanted he mentioned and he said when he

923
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,719
came to the Capitals, he wanted to prove that he

924
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,639
is a great netminder and just ran away with it. Now,

925
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,320
if I'm going to be accurate about Logan Thompson, he

926
00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:13,800
is a great netminder, there is no doubt. But towards

927
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,039
the tail end, of the season. There were some questionable

928
00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:18,079
things about when he was getting rattled, and when I

929
00:44:18,159 --> 00:44:21,360
say rattled, when he started allowing a lot of goals,

930
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,079
that all of a sudden there was an injury that

931
00:44:23,079 --> 00:44:25,480
would pop up, and the injury wasn't always real apparent

932
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,760
like he said, he got his bell rung, but when

933
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,840
you watch the videos, he was reaching for his legs.

934
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,440
An interesting character. I don't want to go into conspiratorial waters,

935
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,360
but just an interesting observation that I made was lights

936
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,960
out for the Capitals all season. Charlie Lingren was Okay,

937
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:42,239
let's guess what I'm going to say that I thought

938
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,079
the Capitals could definitely have been all in on Logan

939
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:48,960
Thompson and the Capitol's goalie pipeline from the NHL all

940
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,599
the way down to the ECHL and prospects and overseas

941
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,719
is jam packed with some really great talent, some more

942
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,639
NHL ready than others. But Logan Thompson and Charlie Lingern

943
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,559
were the guys to get the Capitals over the hump.

944
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:04,199
If it was not for them, the Capitals wouldn't have

945
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,039
made it to the playoffs. Now, would be clear here

946
00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:09,199
When I say they, more specifically, I mean, Logan Thompson,

947
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,840
as he was the guy towards the tail end of

948
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,079
the season was carrying the bulk of the mail that

949
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,800
I think put the Capitals in the playoff picture. Is

950
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:17,639
it sustainable?

951
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 3: That's the big thing.

952
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 2: Logan Thompson was rewarded with a six year extension based

953
00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:27,519
on one season's performance, and I get that the Capitals

954
00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:30,800
were concerned that he was going to get away and

955
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,639
he was going to test the open market, and there

956
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,039
was still some bitterness and a sour taste in their

957
00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:39,639
mouth after that Samsana Vanchek tandem that I think that

958
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,039
they were looking for stability and they had that in

959
00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:45,159
Logan Thompson and to a certain extent, Charlie Linger. And

960
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,119
so Logan Thompson is going to be an interesting study.

961
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,280
Can we continue to see that from him in season two?

962
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,320
I got a bit of a question mark for me.

963
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,119
I know, he put up good numbers. I know for

964
00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:58,239
large swaths of the season he was in the conversation

965
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,800
for the vesna then got in so that kind of

966
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,480
derailed his progress. But that's going to be an interesting

967
00:46:03,559 --> 00:46:06,880
one to watch. And Charlie Langren, who has big pictures,

968
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,519
stepped in admirably when Logan Thompson has gone down, but

969
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,079
with the Hunter Shephard going out to Ottawa and Klay

970
00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:17,599
Stephenson the parent number three in the organization, that it's

971
00:46:17,639 --> 00:46:20,239
going to be interesting that Charlie Linkren signed a three

972
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,320
year deal and the Capitals didn't want to come out

973
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,159
and name a number one starter, but one Logan Thompson

974
00:46:27,199 --> 00:46:29,679
gets a six year deal and then once a while

975
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,800
and then Charlie Lingerton gets a three year deal. You'd

976
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,840
see the lay of the land and understand who's the

977
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,920
number one in the organization. But I feel confident. I'm

978
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,400
going to say I think it's serviceable. Is there a

979
00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:44,000
better tandem in the NHL. Absolutely, But I think it

980
00:46:44,199 --> 00:46:47,400
is the best the Capitals have right now, and maybe

981
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:48,960
I need to put more faith into it. They won

982
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,079
the Metro, they won the Eastern Conference, they made it

983
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:53,719
to the second round for the first time since twenty eighteen.

984
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,599
Speaker 3: That I think it's good.

985
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: I think it could be better, But again, I want

986
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,320
to observe and see how Logan Thompson does in the

987
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,000
second year of this deal. I think that I'll have

988
00:47:03,199 --> 00:47:05,679
a lot more faith in him if we can continue

989
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,800
to see what we saw last season, this next season

990
00:47:09,199 --> 00:47:11,639
and Charlie Langern, I think I have a pretty good

991
00:47:11,679 --> 00:47:15,599
idea of who he is. He is a good tier

992
00:47:15,679 --> 00:47:18,880
two I'm going to say, slightly above average netminder. I

993
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,599
think that he probably could get a starter job somewhere

994
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:22,400
else in the NHL.

995
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 3: But he's not going to.

996
00:47:24,199 --> 00:47:26,559
Speaker 2: Set the world ablaze either with his play in net

997
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,480
as well. I guess I would say, all right, Dan,

998
00:47:29,679 --> 00:47:30,039
this has.

999
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 3: Been a great tour around the Washington Capitals. Why don't

1000
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,440
you let people know how they can keep up with

1001
00:47:34,519 --> 00:47:35,519
you all year round?

1002
00:47:36,679 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can find me over on Twitter. It's

1003
00:47:39,559 --> 00:47:41,360
at Dan Caps two and eight. You can find the

1004
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,719
show on Twitter. It's at Locked on Caps. Of course,

1005
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,280
you can find the podcast wherever you find your podcast,

1006
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,960
serious XM, YouTube, Amazon channels, wherever you find podcasts. That's

1007
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,639
where you can find Locked on Capitals, available five days

1008
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:56,159
a week.

1009
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: All right, thanks so much for coming on and luck

1010
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,519
following those caps this year.

1011
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me guys.

1012
00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:13,199
Speaker 3: Al right, well since then, that's good fire. Oh my goodness,

1013
00:48:13,679 --> 00:48:20,679
roll long with a cat what gram? Now it's your

1014
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,360
weekley Goalie Talk with Kat Silverman. Kat's Instincts.

1015
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,119
Speaker 4: He's joined once again by Kat Silverman NGL mag and

1016
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,679
we're talking Capital's goalies and it is bleak. Kat, it

1017
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,760
is not a great system. We're going to do our

1018
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,079
best to find someone we're talking about, and the only

1019
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:41,280
one I could come up with is Garren in New Yorkland.

1020
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,800
He's twenty three years old, six two hundred and seventy

1021
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,360
four pounds. He was drafted one hundred and seventy ninth

1022
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,960
overall back in twenty twenty. He has had big improvements

1023
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,320
in his numbers in his second season the ECHL. He

1024
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,880
had a couple wins in the AHL. I know it

1025
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,280
doesn't sound impressive, but this is where we are. He

1026
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,719
did end up having some pretty decent numbers there in

1027
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:07,599
the ECCHL. His hockey prospecting equivalency looks awful. He graduated

1028
00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:10,199
the model at five percent chance of being an NHLer.

1029
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:16,119
The only guy who was even notable as a comparable

1030
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,079
is passing Norman and who is a backup drafted way

1031
00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:22,559
back in two thousand and one. So it doesn't look great.

1032
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,119
But is there any hope that Yorkland is at least

1033
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,360
an NHL backup or maybe even a one B.

1034
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 6: I think it's possible.

1035
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 7: I really don't know what the Capitals are doing there,

1036
00:49:33,519 --> 00:49:36,000
because I think their prospect system looks pretty bleak, and

1037
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,519
if we're being totally honest, I think that the guys

1038
00:49:39,519 --> 00:49:42,000
they've been signing at the NHL level in net has

1039
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:45,079
been a little confusing for a team that used to

1040
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:48,480
be known for kind of goaltender hoarding, grabbing a bunch

1041
00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:51,039
of really good guys, developing them within one of the

1042
00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:53,960
best systems in the league, and then offering them.

1043
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:54,599
Speaker 2: Up for gold.

1044
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:55,159
Speaker 6: Essentially.

1045
00:49:55,519 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think he when he got drafted, I was

1046
00:49:59,199 --> 00:50:02,960
a pretty big fan because he did play in a

1047
00:50:03,079 --> 00:50:05,559
very defensive minded league he played.

1048
00:50:05,679 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 6: He played in the WHL, which.

1049
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 7: By and large tends to be the league where you

1050
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,800
see the most consistent goaltending success come out of out

1051
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,960
of the COCHL. He for playing in such a defensive

1052
00:50:19,079 --> 00:50:22,840
minded goaltending behaven, he was a little more exciting, almost

1053
00:50:23,679 --> 00:50:25,039
to run it.

1054
00:50:25,079 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 6: Back to the Mets so Guard comparisons.

1055
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:29,119
Speaker 7: He did have a little bit of that Mad so

1056
00:50:29,199 --> 00:50:31,920
Guard excitement to his game, but he clearly didn't have

1057
00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:36,320
the control, and as the last few years have gone on,

1058
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,199
he's had to really add some consistency and some control

1059
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:39,719
to his game.

1060
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,079
Speaker 6: Had to slow his movements down and almost strip it

1061
00:50:42,159 --> 00:50:42,519
down to the.

1062
00:50:42,519 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 7: Basics a little bit, because he is really good at

1063
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,360
making those emergency saves, and he wasn't quite as good

1064
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:53,400
at making just the boring routine saves without over exerting himself.

1065
00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 6: And it looks like he's he's getting better at that.

1066
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,559
But at this point, I really don't know what washing doing.

1067
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:01,920
I hope they figure it out.

1068
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 7: I think they're probably just and it may even be

1069
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:11,280
to get a little crazy with a conspiracy here. I

1070
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:17,239
think they might be holding off on wasting valuable assets

1071
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,400
on drafting a goaltender really high or trading for really

1072
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,400
good young goaltender until they are out of their aw

1073
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:29,079
Vegkin window, and then they'll start from scratch in a

1074
00:51:29,199 --> 00:51:32,400
new era all at once, instead of because goaltending does

1075
00:51:32,679 --> 00:51:33,960
require a ton of resources.

1076
00:51:34,039 --> 00:51:36,079
Speaker 6: That's the best guess I have for what they're doing.

1077
00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:36,719
They might just.

1078
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,199
Speaker 7: They might be playing a game of three D chess

1079
00:51:41,199 --> 00:51:44,639
while the rest of us are playing checkers. But I

1080
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,519
don't necessarily think that garn BORKLND is the answer, although

1081
00:51:48,519 --> 00:51:50,119
it would be very happy for him if he is.

1082
00:51:51,039 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be great. I feel like they should

1083
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:57,360
just corner the market on lefty goalies because that's what

1084
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,199
they have right now in the NHL, and they should

1085
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:00,280
just only crew.

1086
00:52:04,159 --> 00:52:06,119
Speaker 6: I think that would be delightful. I think that would

1087
00:52:06,159 --> 00:52:07,480
really confuse their defense.

1088
00:52:09,519 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. Maybe confusion is what they're going for it.

1089
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:14,360
As you know, thanks so much for giving us your

1090
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,920
instincts on the Washington Capitals goalies.

1091
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:36,679
Speaker 3: Will be back right after this. Dig the Dynasty Dig

1092
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:41,360
Washington Capital's edition. The Caps have risen in the prospect

1093
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,199
ranks to the point where they're your number seven in

1094
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,679
all of the National Hockey League, and starting with your

1095
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,679
no brainer, you can see why. Who is it?

1096
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:55,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, the no brainer is Cole Hudson. That's right, Cole Hudson.

1097
00:52:55,639 --> 00:52:59,599
He is the younger brother of Canadian star defenseman and

1098
00:53:00,039 --> 00:53:03,880
Older Trophy winner Lane Hudson. He was drafted in twenty

1099
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,800
twenty four, forty third overall. He's five ten, one hundred

1100
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:13,800
and sixty five pounds, and he had his first year

1101
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,519
over at Boston University actually matched his brother's production forty

1102
00:53:17,559 --> 00:53:21,320
eight points in thirty nine games. Pretty incredible stuff. He

1103
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,599
also became the first defenseman to lead the World Juniors

1104
00:53:24,639 --> 00:53:27,440
in scoring with eleven points. And seven games, including a

1105
00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:32,920
pretty ridiculous goal in the gold medal game. I believe

1106
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,639
it was, and when it looked like the Americans were

1107
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,880
not gonna be able to pull it off, so he

1108
00:53:39,079 --> 00:53:42,719
was pretty clutch at the right time, really made a

1109
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,679
big difference here. He also had two assists and a

1110
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,760
plus three, so he was everything. He is a pretty

1111
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,920
fantastic talent. If you look at his age two, he's

1112
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,199
a lot younger than Lane was at the same time,

1113
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,880
so that production in college is a little bit more

1114
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,239
impressive to me. So there's a lot to think about there,

1115
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,039
and can he be gey as good or better than

1116
00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:04,800
his brother? I think the answer is probably yes, which

1117
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,840
is pretty crazy considering what Lane just today. This past season.

1118
00:54:08,679 --> 00:54:11,079
He looked at Mitch Brown's tracking data and Cole Hudson

1119
00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:14,400
has a ninety eight percentile overall. His offense is ninety

1120
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,079
six percentile, his transition is ninety seventh percentile, his defense

1121
00:54:18,159 --> 00:54:21,239
is ninety fifth percentile. All in all, it's just incredible

1122
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,519
all up and down. The main thing that he is

1123
00:54:23,679 --> 00:54:26,599
not as good at, just in general, is shooting. His

1124
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,440
shots P sixty are pretty low, his expected goals are

1125
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,519
pretty low, but the expected primary assists and slot passes

1126
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:34,599
are way up there. He's definitely more of a playmaker

1127
00:54:34,639 --> 00:54:36,519
as you might expect from a defenseman. But we saw

1128
00:54:36,679 --> 00:54:40,079
him scoring goals in that tournament. We saw him when

1129
00:54:40,199 --> 00:54:43,000
the team needed it, he was there. He helped put

1130
00:54:43,039 --> 00:54:44,559
the puck in the nets. You love to see that.

1131
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:48,000
Looking at his Fantasy Hockey Life player card, at least

1132
00:54:48,039 --> 00:54:50,840
in college, he is still shooting in one hundred percentile,

1133
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,119
even though his shots per sixty aren't as good, and

1134
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,159
his hits are actually way better than you would think

1135
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,880
seventy eighth percentile for hits and average for blocks, so

1136
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,480
overall his bash should be really good. We know Lane's

1137
00:55:01,559 --> 00:55:03,800
bash hasn't been quite as good in the NHL, so

1138
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,000
Cole is definitely a little bit feisty here. He's got

1139
00:55:06,039 --> 00:55:08,199
a little bit more of that peripheral floor and I

1140
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,440
think the same amount or more points upside, So that's

1141
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,000
pretty awesome to think about. I have him at as

1142
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,400
a seven point seventy five, so seventy five percent chance

1143
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,800
of being a seven out of ten, which is pretty great.

1144
00:55:18,039 --> 00:55:20,000
But let's hear a little bit more about Cole Hudson

1145
00:55:20,039 --> 00:55:21,360
from our FHL scout.

1146
00:55:21,199 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 3: Jesse FHL scout. Patrick has this to say of Cole Hudson.

1147
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:30,760
Excellent skater, fast, good lateral movement, very capable passer and handler,

1148
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,559
able to handle it well in space, tight and transporting

1149
00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:39,159
it up the ice. The passing is imaginative and sharp shooting.

1150
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,360
Cole has a good wrist shot that he consistently gets

1151
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,480
on net and is able to shoot well and closer

1152
00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:48,440
as well. IQ. Hudson the younger has a very high

1153
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:51,039
hockey IQ. He is able to see a path through

1154
00:55:51,079 --> 00:55:53,719
defenders on the rush, knows when to jump in, is

1155
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,320
generally poised with the pocket, can see the play well

1156
00:55:56,639 --> 00:55:59,199
for checking. He joins the rush. He sneaks down low

1157
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,599
when it's a small choice, a smart choice. Patrick says

1158
00:56:02,599 --> 00:56:05,360
that Hudson's defense is somewhat lacking. Can break a play

1159
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,280
up in the neutral zone, but also has trouble with

1160
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,199
gaps and timing. His plan in the wall needs work

1161
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,360
as he loses battles or panics and throws pucks up

1162
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:18,639
the board, sometimes to the other team. The best assets then, skating, passing,

1163
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:23,079
handling IQ all very good, but Patrick's going with the

1164
00:56:23,119 --> 00:56:26,199
passing and handling and the biggest concern is the defense.

1165
00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:28,920
Unless there's a market improvement next season. He's going to

1166
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,119
need another college season or time in the AHL. The

1167
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:36,320
top tier outcome second pair power Play one. The offense

1168
00:56:36,519 --> 00:56:40,159
and the hockey IQ are undeniable, but the defensive deficiencies

1169
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,519
aren't likely to be fully eliminated, and the median outcome

1170
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,079
third pair power Play two. If the defense isn't improved,

1171
00:56:47,159 --> 00:56:49,880
he could have a sheltered role and get to power

1172
00:56:50,039 --> 00:56:54,599
play two. The style istic comparable Quinn Hughes or Lane

1173
00:56:54,679 --> 00:56:57,760
Hudson As a young defenseman, both Hughes and his brother's

1174
00:56:58,199 --> 00:57:03,079
defense were somewhat lacked as well. Our friend Andy Ultimate

1175
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:07,239
Lord Stanley's Tidy Champion, the NHL rank King himself, Mason

1176
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,039
Black put out the poll Cole Hudson versus yesterday's favorite

1177
00:57:11,119 --> 00:57:15,920
Olin Zelweger, and unsurprisingly, Hudson in a route seventy four

1178
00:57:16,039 --> 00:57:19,800
to twenty six percent. Victor. Is that how you rank him?

1179
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:21,519
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1180
00:57:21,559 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 3: I think so.

1181
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 4: Sorry to say. We love Salweger, We led him for

1182
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,960
a long time, but he has really struggled to make

1183
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,880
an impact in the NHL so far. And maybe that's

1184
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,719
a bit of the Anaheim issue in terms of their

1185
00:57:35,079 --> 00:57:38,119
difficulties emerging from the Rebuil that they had undergo. I

1186
00:57:38,239 --> 00:57:41,119
still have faith that Zelweger can get there and be

1187
00:57:41,199 --> 00:57:44,280
an impactful player. He's only had eighty eight NHL games,

1188
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,159
so there's still plenty of time for him. But yeah,

1189
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,280
I think that it's absolutely Cole Hudson. In fact, I'm

1190
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,559
not sure that there are many prospects that I would

1191
00:57:52,599 --> 00:57:56,800
take out of Cole Hudson. He's just that fantastic. In fact,

1192
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,360
I was just looking at my prospect right thanks just

1193
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:07,400
to see who would I consider taking ahead, and right now,

1194
00:58:07,519 --> 00:58:10,239
looking at all the fencemen who I still have in

1195
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,880
my ranks, Cole Hudson is coming in at number seven,

1196
00:58:14,119 --> 00:58:16,920
only behind Lane just because he's done it at the

1197
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,119
NHL level, Zamprek, Alex Nikishin, ze Wulliam, Matthew Schaeffer, and

1198
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,559
Axel sandein Pelika. So that's pretty high praise for Cole Hudson.

1199
00:58:26,119 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 7: And not to.

1200
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 4: Say anything bad about Zeedworg because I still have a

1201
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,480
lot of faith in him. But it's definitely Cole Hudson here.

1202
00:58:33,639 --> 00:58:36,599
His trajectory is sky high, so you love to see that.

1203
00:58:37,119 --> 00:58:40,320
Look at the hockey prospecting between the two and it's

1204
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,440
actually pretty similar. Selweger graduated the model at eighty eight

1205
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,800
percent chance of being a star. Cole Hudson is there now,

1206
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,199
but only in his Draft plus one season. Zelweger took

1207
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,400
till his Draft plus three season to get there, so

1208
00:58:51,519 --> 00:58:53,880
definitely got there a bit quicker. You look at some

1209
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:58,039
other comps for Cole Hudson, and you got some Bobby Orr,

1210
00:58:58,239 --> 00:59:00,760
you got Phil Housley, Ryan Ellis, So all of those

1211
00:59:01,199 --> 00:59:04,840
seem like possible outcomes, with Ryan Ellis being the more

1212
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,920
reasonable one and Bobby or Phil Ousley being a little

1213
00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:12,559
maybe far fetched, but I could see it. Looking at

1214
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,320
I just wanted to compare Cole to Lane, and you

1215
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,320
can see that the star potential for Cole Hudson is

1216
00:59:18,559 --> 00:59:21,199
almost to where Lane was in his Draft plus two season,

1217
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,199
but already in his Draft plus one season. So that's

1218
00:59:24,199 --> 00:59:26,679
why I think there's a pretty decent chance that Cole

1219
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,760
is actually better than his brother in terms of his

1220
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:34,079
fantasy output. And you look at the top down Hockey

1221
00:59:34,199 --> 00:59:37,079
model and Cole Hudson has a seventeen percent chance of

1222
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:39,039
being a star, one hundred percent chance of being an

1223
00:59:39,119 --> 00:59:42,119
NHLLL er. So that's pretty great from the usually a

1224
00:59:42,239 --> 00:59:44,320
little bit more pessimistic model Jesse.

1225
00:59:45,559 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, all right, that is going to do it

1226
00:59:47,519 --> 00:59:50,960
for Cole Hudson. Who is your need to know prospect?

1227
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,559
Speaker 4: The need to know is Andrew Christall. He's the twenty

1228
00:59:55,639 --> 00:59:58,760
twenty three fortieth overall pick five and eighty three pounds.

1229
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,159
Cristal was close to make in the Capitol's opening nine

1230
01:00:01,239 --> 01:00:04,320
roster last season before being sent back to the WHL.

1231
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,719
He responded by scoring a WHL leading one hundred and

1232
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,960
thirty two points in fifty seven games where he's split

1233
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,000
between Colowna and Spokane, and added another forty one points

1234
01:00:13,039 --> 01:00:16,000
in nineteen games with the Spokane Chiefs. All in all,

1235
01:00:16,119 --> 01:00:20,239
is pretty awesome season for Christall, and he certainly is

1236
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,320
going to be looking at making the team this year

1237
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,159
out of camp, and we already heard Dan allude to

1238
01:00:26,079 --> 01:00:28,039
they might have some big plans for him and maybe

1239
01:00:28,039 --> 01:00:30,599
even playing in the second line. And we know that

1240
01:00:30,679 --> 01:00:33,960
he's got a lot offensive talent. Looking at the tracking

1241
01:00:34,039 --> 01:00:37,119
data from Mitch Brown, you can see ninety ninth percentile

1242
01:00:37,239 --> 01:00:40,960
for offense, eighty eighth for transition, and just nineteen percent

1243
01:00:41,119 --> 01:00:43,079
for defense. That's really going to be the issue. It

1244
01:00:43,159 --> 01:00:44,840
continues to be an issue. It was an issue in

1245
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,880
his draft season. He hasn't really improved his off puck

1246
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,239
play that much, which continues to be a bit of

1247
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,960
a concern. In the right situation, he certainly can excel

1248
01:00:54,119 --> 01:00:56,719
in the NHL, but there's concerns that he's not going

1249
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,039
to be able to do that because of his issues.

1250
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,119
That remains a problem. You look at the rest of

1251
01:01:03,159 --> 01:01:05,679
the tracking data of the defense, the off puck assists,

1252
01:01:05,679 --> 01:01:08,320
the proactive contact, the boards battles. These are all his

1253
01:01:08,519 --> 01:01:10,679
major weaknesses and that's going to be a problem for

1254
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,159
him in the NHL. Looking at his FHL player card,

1255
01:01:14,599 --> 01:01:18,639
one hundred percentile for hits, twentieth percentile for or sorry,

1256
01:01:18,679 --> 01:01:21,280
one hundred percent out for shots, twentieth percentile for hits,

1257
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,920
thirtieth percentile for blocks. So all in all, his bash

1258
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,440
might be okay, but mainly just shots. I have him

1259
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,800
had a seven point thirty seven thirty seven percent chance

1260
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,119
of being a seven, So there's I still have some

1261
01:01:33,159 --> 01:01:34,960
pretty good confidence that he can get there, but I'm

1262
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,079
a little bit more skeptical. That's why the percentage is

1263
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:39,360
a little bit lower. Let's hear a little bit more

1264
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,800
about Andrew Christal from our FHL scout Jesse.

1265
01:01:43,039 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 3: Patrick says the skating is slightly below average. He's somewhat

1266
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,559
lacking in pace, but he has good edgework which he

1267
01:01:48,639 --> 01:01:51,840
puts the good use in his lateral skating. Passing and

1268
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,840
handling excellent adapted delaying his passes to the right moment,

1269
01:01:56,199 --> 01:01:59,519
very skilled at handling the puck. Shooting plus shot good

1270
01:01:59,599 --> 01:02:02,039
one time. He has a quick release on his wrist

1271
01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:06,079
shot and able to place it well. IQ very high.

1272
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,559
He often appears to be thinking at least one step

1273
01:02:08,599 --> 01:02:11,559
ahead and shows no sign of panic. Has the vision

1274
01:02:11,599 --> 01:02:15,559
to carry out what he anticipates. Patrick says this high

1275
01:02:15,719 --> 01:02:17,679
IQ allows him to be in the right place and

1276
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,440
uses stickwork to steal pucks in the zone. As per

1277
01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:25,239
his fore checking defense, he needs to work on defensive involvement.

1278
01:02:25,719 --> 01:02:28,920
It's still a shortcoming based on his inconsistency. So the

1279
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:33,119
best assets, well, He's got several, but the best is

1280
01:02:33,239 --> 01:02:36,000
the hockey IQ and the biggest concern the skating or

1281
01:02:36,079 --> 01:02:39,199
the defense. But at this point Patrick's more concerned about

1282
01:02:39,239 --> 01:02:43,039
the defense. The top tier outcome line one powerplay one,

1283
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,880
while there are some questions about the ability to translate it.

1284
01:02:46,239 --> 01:02:49,119
The high end offensive toolkit gives him a high likelihood

1285
01:02:49,159 --> 01:02:51,800
of playing first or second line and power play one

1286
01:02:52,519 --> 01:02:56,239
the fiftieth percentile outcome line three if he makes the

1287
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,920
NHL or a high end ahller. That's because of the

1288
01:03:00,119 --> 01:03:03,000
skating an incomplete two hundred foot game hold him back.

1289
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,480
He could still adapt well enough to be a good

1290
01:03:05,559 --> 01:03:09,480
third liner or do really well in DHL. The stylistic

1291
01:03:09,559 --> 01:03:12,000
comparable called back to the first part of the show,

1292
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:18,480
Nikolai Eeler's, but with lesser skating and Victor the NHL ranking.

1293
01:03:18,559 --> 01:03:21,360
Mason Black he put it up for us. He told

1294
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,960
us who we should compare Andrew Christal to, and he

1295
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:30,039
picks Consta Helenius of the Buffalo Sabers, and Christal probably

1296
01:03:30,119 --> 01:03:33,199
unsurprisingly comes out ahead of Hellnius. I actually thought it

1297
01:03:33,239 --> 01:03:35,719
probably would be more than sixty one to thirty nine percent.

1298
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,199
Speaker 4: But what do you think, Victor, Yeah, this one's tough.

1299
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:43,800
I do like christall for the upside more, but Constant

1300
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:48,199
Helenius has a much much better floor. You heard about

1301
01:03:48,239 --> 01:03:50,119
some of the concerns. I talked about it a little

1302
01:03:50,159 --> 01:03:53,039
bit with Christal. There's a chance that he's just not

1303
01:03:53,159 --> 01:03:56,320
an NHL or that he doesn't improve his off puck

1304
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,079
game that he doesn't. He's a bit of a defensive

1305
01:03:59,119 --> 01:04:01,400
liability out there and he can't be trusted and then

1306
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,320
he loses faith and bounces around teams. I think there's

1307
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,280
a very real possibility that happens. Consta Helenius is going

1308
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,079
to be an NHL er. I don't know that he's

1309
01:04:09,159 --> 01:04:11,320
going to put up a lot of points, but he's

1310
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,519
someone that the coaches are going to trust, They're going

1311
01:04:13,559 --> 01:04:15,239
to put him out there, they're going to give him minutes,

1312
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,000
and you know he's going to play. So if you

1313
01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:21,679
want that security, then I would go with Helenius. If

1314
01:04:21,719 --> 01:04:25,079
you're looking for that more boom Bus pick. He was

1315
01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:27,280
a boombus pick when they drafted him. He still remains

1316
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:28,960
that way because of the lack of the B game

1317
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:34,280
and the last lack of the all around defensive effort

1318
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,599
and ability in those areas. So it's a little bit

1319
01:04:37,679 --> 01:04:40,039
more risky. But I would take Christall if I wanted

1320
01:04:40,079 --> 01:04:42,360
to swing on upside, because he definitely has way more

1321
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,239
upside If you look at the hockey prospecting between the two.

1322
01:04:45,519 --> 01:04:48,800
Christal has maintained his probability of being a star at

1323
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,000
around fifty five percent. The last few seasons, his NHL

1324
01:04:52,079 --> 01:04:54,440
OR probability continues to grow up to eighty two percent.

1325
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,960
Hellnius has trended down a little bit, but he's been

1326
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,039
in the AHL, He's been in much tougher leagues this

1327
01:04:59,119 --> 01:05:01,440
whole time, and so his star potential is forty two,

1328
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:05,639
which is still pretty similar, and his NHLR probability is higher.

1329
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,079
So that kind of tells a lot of the story

1330
01:05:08,119 --> 01:05:09,880
as well if you look at some other comps for

1331
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,079
Andrew Crystal there. I think one of the things some

1332
01:05:12,159 --> 01:05:13,960
of the scouts have said all all along is that

1333
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,519
there aren't a whole lot of guys that look like

1334
01:05:15,639 --> 01:05:17,880
him in the NHL, and that's kind of part of

1335
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,599
the problem. I think Mark Roberto is one of the

1336
01:05:20,639 --> 01:05:22,400
guys that he looks like in this model, and I

1337
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,639
think that's probably a good comp a guy who had

1338
01:05:24,719 --> 01:05:27,800
certainly a lot of offensive skill, who certainly could produce,

1339
01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:30,360
but also struggled in some areas of the game. And

1340
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,079
so it worked for Roberto, it might work for Christal,

1341
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,800
it also might not. Looking at the j fresh card,

1342
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,280
thirty three percent chance of being a star eighty eight

1343
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,480
percent chance of being an NHL are pretty good numbers

1344
01:05:41,519 --> 01:05:43,920
there from the Jfresh Model Jesse.

1345
01:05:45,679 --> 01:05:48,719
Speaker 3: And Victor, who is the keep your eye on prospect.

1346
01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:54,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love this guy, Ilia Protest, that's Alexi Protest.

1347
01:05:54,239 --> 01:05:57,480
His little brother Dan did mention him briefly in passing.

1348
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,800
This kid is also huge, six five one pounds. The

1349
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,960
Capitals drafted him seventy fifth overall back in twenty twenty

1350
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,199
four this past draft, and he went from Des Moines

1351
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,159
being just under a point per game last season to

1352
01:06:11,239 --> 01:06:15,320
the Winsor Spitfires where he totally blew up went over

1353
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,920
two points per game, was fantastic in the playoffs. And yeah,

1354
01:06:20,039 --> 01:06:22,639
he took that big LEMP that his brother seemed to

1355
01:06:22,639 --> 01:06:24,280
take because almost like they took it at the same time.

1356
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:24,519
Speaker 6: It was.

1357
01:06:24,599 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 4: It was hilarious and heartwarming for the Protest family to

1358
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:31,559
see that happen. You don't really usually see that big

1359
01:06:31,599 --> 01:06:34,159
a production when you're going to a harder league. He

1360
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:39,079
also went to the AHL and traveled with the Hershey

1361
01:06:39,119 --> 01:06:41,280
Bears for their playoffrun, but he didn't get into any games.

1362
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,559
He could be in the in the AHL as early

1363
01:06:44,599 --> 01:06:47,800
as next season, I believe, since he started in the USHL,

1364
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,360
that is an option for him. We'll have to see

1365
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:53,639
where he ends up, but he definitely had a huge season,

1366
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,039
only behind Michael Misa in terms of productions. That's pretty

1367
01:06:57,079 --> 01:06:59,840
fantastic stuff. You look at Mitch Brown's tracking data, he

1368
01:07:00,039 --> 01:07:01,800
has a lot of things really well, especially for a

1369
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,920
first time first year OHL player, sev seventy eight percent

1370
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,400
out for offense, seventy percent out for transition in fifty

1371
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,239
four per defense. He doesn't shoot a whole lot, some

1372
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,960
of his controlled entries aren't great, and his defensive course

1373
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,440
he who wasn't great. All in all, pretty solid numbers

1374
01:07:17,519 --> 01:07:20,000
for such a young player. Also, I don't think I

1375
01:07:20,079 --> 01:07:23,079
mentioned this, but he is extremely young for his draft class.

1376
01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:25,880
He's a July eighteenth birthday, so he was seventeen his

1377
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,480
whole draft season and eighteen all of this season, so

1378
01:07:28,599 --> 01:07:31,079
he remains really young for this whole process. In a

1379
01:07:31,119 --> 01:07:32,719
few more years is still all leaven out, but for

1380
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,400
now he's still a lot younger and less developed than

1381
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,280
these other players. So the fact that he had such

1382
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:42,239
a massive output in production was pretty great, and I

1383
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,239
think this guy's the limit for him. Looking at his

1384
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:48,519
FHL player card, he's a seven point five to four

1385
01:07:48,679 --> 01:07:51,320
in my ranking forty five percent chance of being a

1386
01:07:52,199 --> 01:07:55,000
seven if you're scoring at home. Yes, that is higher

1387
01:07:55,079 --> 01:07:57,800
than Andrew Christal. I have more faith and protests being

1388
01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,079
able to figure it out. Just look at what his

1389
01:07:59,199 --> 01:08:01,800
brother did. He's got the perfect roadmap ahead of him.

1390
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:06,239
He shoots one hundred percent tile for the ohl. His

1391
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,639
hits are a little bit lower, just thirtieth percent tile,

1392
01:08:08,679 --> 01:08:10,800
and his blocks are seventeh percent miles. Over All, the

1393
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:14,440
bass should be good somewhat surprisingly, actually driven more by

1394
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,159
the blocks than by the hit. So that's interesting. Let's

1395
01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:19,560
find out what else is interesting about Ilia protests From

1396
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,039
our fatl scout, Jesse.

1397
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:25,199
Speaker 3: Our Mantoni has this to say about Ilia protas. His

1398
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:28,600
skating is probably the weakest part of his game. Not fast,

1399
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:32,239
but it is adequate. He has quick passes, he anticipates

1400
01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:35,399
where to go with the puck, gets there effectively and quickly.

1401
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,399
Ilia has a good shot. He's able to get away

1402
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:42,119
that shot while shielding the puck from his opponents. A

1403
01:08:42,279 --> 01:08:45,159
high hockey IQ has Ilia protas, and he's able to

1404
01:08:45,239 --> 01:08:48,560
anticipate where to go with the puck. For checking, Tony

1405
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,640
saw some Ford checking Familia by using his size to

1406
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:55,279
his advantage. The defense was good. Again using his size

1407
01:08:55,319 --> 01:08:58,680
in anticipation to help him get the puck back for

1408
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,239
his team, and the best asset his ability to keep

1409
01:09:02,279 --> 01:09:05,520
the puck away from the opponent's biggest concern the skating.

1410
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:07,800
It's going to need to improve in order for Ilia

1411
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:11,960
Protess to progress in his career. The top tier outcome

1412
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,720
for Tony, he says, probably about a tier two with

1413
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,960
his anticipation, using size, good passing, He's a middle sixer

1414
01:09:20,119 --> 01:09:22,359
with some power play time. Does want to say that

1415
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:26,199
while Iliat uses his size, it's not really in the

1416
01:09:26,239 --> 01:09:28,159
way of hits. He kind of leans on people or

1417
01:09:28,199 --> 01:09:32,000
outpositions them. Not a ton of bash anticipated from ilia

1418
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,239
The median outcome if the skating doesn't improve and he

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does continue to improve in other aspects, he's probably a

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fourth liner or twelve to Ford with limited playing time

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and the stylistic comparable, we're going right to Alexa Protas.

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The final thought, I think why they drafted him Washington,

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01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:53,359
that is, they see a possibility for Alexey. Part two

1424
01:09:54,119 --> 01:09:58,520
and the NHL ranking. Mason Black decides to put Ilia

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01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:04,119
Protas up against Wiam green Tree La King's prospect and

1426
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,399
probably on surprising at this point, Protas in a big

1427
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,760
victory here seventy five to twenty five percent Victor. Is

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that how you compare the two?

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Speaker 4: Definitely, I love me some Ilia Protests and green Tree.

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01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:23,439
He had. These guys were teammates for Windsor, and they

1431
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:28,000
both had really strong seasons. Protests out pointed him by

1432
01:10:28,199 --> 01:10:31,239
a little bit, by about five points, I think. And

1433
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,239
both these guys were recently drafted, so that's a fun

1434
01:10:34,399 --> 01:10:37,520
competition for them playing on the same junior team but

1435
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:41,520
being drafted to different NHL teams. And yeah, I definitely

1436
01:10:42,119 --> 01:10:44,720
am liking Protests a little bit more. He gets more

1437
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,920
of the bump because he improved his scoring by a lot.

1438
01:10:48,199 --> 01:10:51,319
Green Tree scored a fair amount last season and then

1439
01:10:52,119 --> 01:10:54,119
wasn't able to increase it by a ton. He did

1440
01:10:54,239 --> 01:10:56,520
increase it, just not as much as Protest did, so

1441
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,920
that was part of the jump there. I do so

1442
01:10:59,079 --> 01:11:00,840
like green Tree, but I like Protests a lot more.

1443
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:02,640
I think he's got a lot more pro habits and

1444
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,560
is going to fit in quite nicely with the Capitals.

1445
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:09,600
In a couple of years, the star potential for Ilia

1446
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,600
Protests went from three to fifteen percent, which is pretty

1447
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,439
unusual to raise your star potential that much in one season.

1448
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,479
Green Tree State steady at twenty four percent chance of

1449
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,880
being a star, so that's interesting, So a little bit

1450
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,159
higher for green Tree, but I still believe in protests

1451
01:11:23,159 --> 01:11:25,439
a little bit more. Part of the reason he was

1452
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:31,800
so low in his initial star potential is that his

1453
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,800
draft minus one season was for a U eighteen U

1454
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,039
seventeen team in Belarus, which doesn't really have an equivalency,

1455
01:11:38,159 --> 01:11:41,079
so he got nil for that and then was just

1456
01:11:41,159 --> 01:11:44,000
based on his USHL production, So that's part of it

1457
01:11:44,079 --> 01:11:46,960
for him. Looking at some other comps for ilia protests,

1458
01:11:47,119 --> 01:11:49,359
Patrick Bergland is one that he looks a fair amount

1459
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:51,680
like and he was an average producer and I think

1460
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:53,119
he can do that. I think he can do at

1461
01:11:53,199 --> 01:11:55,520
least as well as his brother, So there's a little

1462
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,479
bit more upside there than maybe is being shown. And

1463
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:02,439
in terms of his Jfreshcar twelve percent chance of being

1464
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,880
a star, ninety four percent chance of being an nlhler,

1465
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:06,520
I think he's pretty much a Locke based on what

1466
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:10,079
his brother has done. So yeah, that's pretty exciting. That's

1467
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it for the Washington Capitols dig. If you're a patreon

1468
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you can listen to my top ten prospect recaps on

1469
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,840
Patreon and if you're interested in doing any scouting, shoot

1470
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me a DM on Twitter, Discord, or email us.

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Speaker 3: Be right back to close off the show.

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1479
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because frankly, after getting into that interface, I just don't

1480
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want to play anywhere else unless I'm forced to other

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And fantrakshq has lots of fantasy content articles on fantasy hockey,

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