Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to Part two.
Speaker 2: Partush of the Riveting, Riveting Golden Batch. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: heart listen. Our job is to make a shit show
Speaker 2: and make it exciting.
Speaker 1: And we did.
Speaker 2: We did that, and then we sort of didn't do
Speaker 2: that because they didn't give us a whole lot to
Speaker 2: work with in part you know, in what we've discussed
Speaker 2: so far. But I think we're gonna we're gonna take
Speaker 2: it up a notch. We're going to need to like
Speaker 2: go in harder. I think, yeah, because these they're not
Speaker 2: really deserving of our grace. No, and not the women.
Speaker 2: We like the women, they're fine.
Speaker 1: If any of you are listening to this and you're like,
Speaker 1: you guys are so hard on Mel, well, no, what
Speaker 1: do you expect What do you expect us to do?
Speaker 1: Do you expect us to be like, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Mel is like so hot? And do you know that
Speaker 1: he used to play football, so he is a catch,
Speaker 1: He is so throw ball around and some he's so
Speaker 1: First of all, I do want to say this, if
Speaker 1: I can find something positive. Mel has no lips. It
Speaker 1: just looks like there's like a paper cut across the mouth.
Speaker 1: What is happening?
Speaker 2: Like a cartoon. If you're drying the cartoon, I got
Speaker 2: just one line.
Speaker 1: Yes, now I'm yes, I'm gonna push back. I don't
Speaker 1: hate a thin lipped. I like a thin lip. Really,
Speaker 1: I'm making out. I like the thin lip.
Speaker 2: I don't know why they're good maker outers. No, I
Speaker 2: mean it's like.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like making out with a turtle. It's
Speaker 1: just like snap, like a snaps kissing.
Speaker 2: It's all about like you know, it's how they it's
Speaker 2: how they use it. It's the motion of the ocean, not
Speaker 2: the size of the shark.
Speaker 1: What that has no meaning? Yeah it does.
Speaker 2: That's just a different kind of meaning. It's not what
Speaker 2: it Stephanie, it means. It's not the size of the penis.
Speaker 2: It's how they wrote it. It's how they What did
Speaker 2: we used to say? Circle thrust? Oh, now here's a
Speaker 2: piece behind the curtain. Remember circle thrust? Remember that guy? Yes,
Speaker 2: I won't get tun into this, but just for fun,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say any names or anything. But
Speaker 2: I went out with a guy for a while and
Speaker 2: he attempted a clothed to circle thrust, and so we
Speaker 2: started calling I think it was my friend. My other
Speaker 2: friend gave him the name. We called him something else,
Speaker 2: but yeah, we called him circle thrust for a while
Speaker 2: because he did this like weird circling with his hips
Speaker 2: and then boom, but not real sex.
Speaker 1: It was like we were clothed, really weird.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm just saying mel could do that and maybe
Speaker 2: that would turn you around. Let's say, okay, picture this.
Speaker 2: You're on the bed, right, you're a good time. He's
Speaker 2: told you, he's regaled you with fun stories of getting
Speaker 2: hit in the head in a tackle and a hard tackle.
Speaker 1: We're getting having the ball like.
Speaker 2: A sack, like when he got sacked, Yeah, like very
Speaker 2: good he sacked. Yeah, it got sacked like, let's say
Speaker 2: a thousand times. And he wants to tell you about that.
Speaker 2: What if I did not even know the.
Speaker 1: Correct football term and I was like, you mean like
Speaker 1: he got sashed.
Speaker 2: You're like he got sashade, no sun, but you know, listen.
Speaker 2: So we got all that and he gets you the
Speaker 2: bed and like, I'm into this. I love these stories
Speaker 2: about concussions and everything. I love it. So you're on
Speaker 2: the bed and he's on top of you, and you
Speaker 2: see the kind of his white hair and like the
Speaker 2: very red flushed face because he's he's excited and then
Speaker 2: he circle thrusts you. Would you turn around? Would you
Speaker 2: be like I get it? Or would you just be
Speaker 2: like no? And it's not his age, because nobody cares
Speaker 2: about that. We're all aging. But let's just say it's
Speaker 2: his face coming at you and he does a very
Speaker 2: like elvisy circle thrust with his hips.
Speaker 1: Are you into it? No? Is my question?
Speaker 2: Okay, well no, I think you're being hard on Melvin.
Speaker 2: I think you're being tough on him because I think
Speaker 2: if he circle thrusted you with that red face and
Speaker 2: after telling you, telling you many stories that are wandering stories.
Speaker 1: Okay, I have an f Mary kill for you. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: please Okay, Gary Turner, F mel I don't even hear
Speaker 1: or Chris Harrison.
Speaker 2: Let me think for a second. I'm thinking I'm marry
Speaker 2: This is actually pretty easy. Okay, hold on, wait, hold on,
Speaker 2: I have You're not gonna like it, but I have
Speaker 2: sex with Chris Harrison because you know, no talking whatever,
Speaker 2: ryot lights out from behind. Think about it. I'm married Gary,
Speaker 2: and I'm bye bye Mel.
Speaker 1: Okay. I mean how that's help pupped up?
Speaker 2: This is that that's what we're dealing with the guy
Speaker 2: that just gets often our f Mary Kill is the
Speaker 2: lead of the show. We don't even want to like
Speaker 2: even Okay, let me give you one. Let me give
Speaker 2: you a better Not that that wasn't good, that was great,
Speaker 2: but let me make it a little harder. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: hmm okay, So Mel, obviously, uh huh, Harvey Weinstein, I mean,
Speaker 2: and you're not gonna let me think of a third
Speaker 2: because it can't be Cosby.
Speaker 1: I can just keep throwing him in there.
Speaker 2: You just married Woody. I mean, you're not gonna have
Speaker 2: sex with him. No, you're not gonna. If you marry
Speaker 2: you don't have to.
Speaker 1: Like talk about his Excuse me? Is he does he
Speaker 1: stay married to Sunye? Is she still Sunny prep? She's
Speaker 1: in there.
Speaker 2: You want her on that wall because she's the organized one.
Speaker 1: She gets shipped done. So we're sister sister wives. Yeah,
Speaker 1: uh ah, that's a hard one. Well, then I have
Speaker 1: a chance between having sex though, Oh my god, now
Speaker 1: I have to have sex with Mel. You've put me
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Speaker 2: tell me something about mel I think or did you
Speaker 2: already and I missed it? You're gonna tell me something
Speaker 2: you just read about him before? We should we wait
Speaker 2: on that before we get into Debbie Denver.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can do that at the end if
Speaker 1: you want.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's so we've got a little extra something coming.
Speaker 1: But next up.
Speaker 2: So if you listen to part one and then you should
Speaker 2: have because there's some good stuff in there. We went
Speaker 2: to peg, we went to Vegas for Peggy's hometown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was artful one. Just by the way, if
Speaker 1: you didn't listen to it. We had a lot of macrontes,
Speaker 1: a lot of thoughts. Yeah, what's happening, What's what's going
Speaker 1: on with the editors, what's going on with like people's
Speaker 1: personal lives, what's going on with the EPs and then
Speaker 1: we covered PEG's state. Also, there was a whole bit
Speaker 1: about mel on the plane.
Speaker 2: I don't want to miss that. But yes, now I
Speaker 2: wouldn't even say, you have to go back and listen.
Speaker 2: Now Debbie Denver, who I had to look up. I'm like, wait,
Speaker 2: who is this? I don't even remember at all, And
Speaker 2: she's teaching you have like a blind spot for.
Speaker 1: Her because every time remember that, I always remind you,
Speaker 1: remember that, I remind you beach body. She's the beach
Speaker 1: body at the whole. She doesn't fit.
Speaker 2: She doesn't fit with beach body though, like she's gorgeous.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying because she's not pretty, but like she's
Speaker 2: so active, Like I'm a van lady. I'm like, she's
Speaker 2: not danned, but I'm Denver. Look at these look at
Speaker 2: the red rocks. So I don't put that as like
Speaker 2: multi level marketing lady. But that's you're saying, that's who
Speaker 2: she is. Yeah, that's who she is. That's her business.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why so she Okay, I thought it was
Speaker 2: really funny. He gets to Denver and she's showing him
Speaker 2: the red Rocks and then only on the Bachelor would
Speaker 2: the line be like, remember what we learned at our
Speaker 2: shaman group retreat. I mean that is like right out
Speaker 2: of an SNL y I've learned anything from our shaman
Speaker 2: group retreat? Like, what is this I learned? That's just
Speaker 2: fucking crazy. And then again, she's got to think it's
Speaker 2: been fourteen years since I brought anyone home. Well, that's
Speaker 2: crazy too, I mean, you have a full family, you
Speaker 2: haven't met anyone in fourteen years. Yes, although she does
Speaker 2: have an interesting story which we're about to find out
Speaker 2: for the first time.
Speaker 1: But so he's he's saying, as as you mentioned, he's like,
Speaker 1: I really feel spiritually connected to deb And my thought was,
Speaker 1: at what point have we seen anything from mel which
Speaker 1: would actually tell us he spiritual besides him saying I'm
Speaker 1: really spiritual. Yeah, I know, it's nothing. It's nothing about
Speaker 1: his life or things he said like in conversation that
Speaker 1: would make you think he's spiritual. We know that he's
Speaker 1: super into esp which I think. I don't know if
Speaker 1: everybody listened to our last episode, but we guessed what
Speaker 1: each other's numbers were.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I made a friend do this too,
Speaker 2: and we were like we kind of got some of
Speaker 2: them too. We used to be really good at this.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm very into it, but we couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: I remember I made you do one between one and
Speaker 2: one hundred. Yes, that I was very I can do
Speaker 2: it right now, but we got the number.
Speaker 1: I got one in ten? Was this between one and
Speaker 1: one hundred? Yeah? Yeah, eighty eight?
Speaker 2: Did you really think about it?
Speaker 1: Did you say eighty eight? Think? Okay, I'm really going
Speaker 1: to think about it. And now I'm actually thinking thirty seven.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you were very close thirty four? So
Speaker 2: does that count for something? I mean, we gassed not
Speaker 2: the right number, but.
Speaker 1: It's so close. The three was correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have a one on ten chance out of
Speaker 2: that for that, but that's nothing. Okay, you do one
Speaker 2: real quick. It doesn't have to be a number. Maybe
Speaker 2: a letter.
Speaker 1: I'm going to do Okay, I'm going to do a
Speaker 1: color and I'm picturing it in my mind, really sending
Speaker 1: it to you yellow. Yes, yes, oh my god, see
Speaker 1: see you guys.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm on Mell's side with all of that, just
Speaker 2: to be like, we totally support all the extra attention
Speaker 2: he gives to paranormal and esp but.
Speaker 1: Why, like, okay, if he's so into esp that it
Speaker 1: came up in these like interviews or background about him.
Speaker 1: Why doesn't he ever talk about like they're all like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're really spiritually connected. How you know what this is?
Speaker 1: Like my memoir writing show, don't tell none of this
Speaker 1: is what's this is? The disconnect with this season is
Speaker 1: like everything they say does not come across in like
Speaker 1: what's happening on our screen? So mel is saying all
Speaker 1: these things and then we watch him just be so
Speaker 1: basic and boring and not say anything. But yeah, So
Speaker 1: they're at Red Rock and deb is walking and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, she's like, butterfly, all right.
Speaker 2: Like our thing, And then the butterfly sort of maybe reminds,
Speaker 2: so she's like, I've got to I've got a trauma
Speaker 2: dump for you, and it sure is a big one
Speaker 2: for the last one before you're gonna get married. Maybe
Speaker 2: this is the one the date before the date of
Speaker 2: like let's let's let's move in together. And she had
Speaker 2: a one on her story.
Speaker 1: With him before, so why didn't she trauma dump on
Speaker 1: the one O one?
Speaker 2: I have a theory about that, Okay, the one I
Speaker 2: think we've said one on one before we decided we could.
Speaker 1: Just say that. My theory is that it was too
Speaker 1: I thought.
Speaker 2: About this a lot, actually, because I could relate to
Speaker 2: this story in some ways, and I'm sure a lot
Speaker 2: of us could and we'll get into that, but let
Speaker 2: not into my story but hers. But she probably didn't
Speaker 2: think it was appropriate. She probably was like, that's my story.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to use TV show, and
Speaker 2: then they just berated her. I think producers are like,
Speaker 2: I think you really need.
Speaker 1: To talk about that guy. I think you're not going
Speaker 1: to get me.
Speaker 2: I think Mel's like going to pass you by if
Speaker 2: you don't really like open up. So I think she
Speaker 2: had her one on one but didn't want to felt
Speaker 2: dirty using that story. Not that she should have felt dirty,
Speaker 2: but she probably did. And then they finally were like,
Speaker 2: just you have to you made it to home. So
Speaker 2: maybe she believed, oh my god, does he really like me?
Speaker 2: Maybe it wouldn't be so sad to talk about my
Speaker 2: ex in this way because it seems like he's the one.
Speaker 2: So that makes sense to me that she would wait
Speaker 2: until this to traumada.
Speaker 1: That makes so much sense. I'm so glad you brought
Speaker 1: that up, because I hadn't thought of it that way,
Speaker 1: but now and now I'm mad for her.
Speaker 2: I know me too, me too, and I'm mad at
Speaker 2: the producer too. Yeah, like somebody convinced her that that
Speaker 2: was a good idea. So here was the try. Here's
Speaker 2: a trigger, by the way, quick trigger if you want
Speaker 2: to fast forward thirty seconds. But she had an ex
Speaker 2: who she was with for some time, quite some time ago,
Speaker 2: when she was fifty one.
Speaker 1: They dated for a little bit that long ago, isn't
Speaker 1: she in her like early.
Speaker 2: Sixties, Yeah, but that's like ten It was like thirteen
Speaker 2: years prior.
Speaker 1: It was quite some time. It was like a decade ago, okay,
Speaker 1: and she was old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was fifty when it happened, and she dated him,
Speaker 2: and she's like, I noticed that he was getting depressed
Speaker 2: and we went to counseling about it and whatever. Well,
Speaker 2: he ended up taking his life well after they first
Speaker 2: hold on. Let's let's not like she broke up with story.
Speaker 2: She feels but all sorry, she felt she felt guilt
Speaker 2: about that too. Yeah, but like just you broke up
Speaker 2: with him and then soon after Yeah, but this was
Speaker 2: like an interesting part of the story. So she was
Speaker 2: really trying. She knew he was going to propose and.
Speaker 1: So she yeah, so she started seeing uh, you know,
Speaker 1: she started trying to break up with him, but she
Speaker 1: went to his therapist, and his therapist helped her break
Speaker 1: up with him. And I was like, what kind of
Speaker 1: shitty therapist. Wouldn't you be so mad if like you
Speaker 1: brought somebody to your therapist and your therapist was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think you don't want to be with Cecily
Speaker 1: like you should.
Speaker 2: It happens all the time I've read I've read yelp
Speaker 2: reviews of therapists that I've been like interested in trying out,
Speaker 2: and they'll be like, don't we went to couples get like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, it's very common. Actually, well no, I
Speaker 2: understand if with a neutral couples counselor, but like you,
Speaker 2: this wasn't a couple's counseling.
Speaker 1: He she went to his therapist and his therapist was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I get out. So that's what she said. His therapist
Speaker 1: helped me break up with him. So then she uh,
Speaker 1: and she says, his therapist gave me the strength to
Speaker 1: walk away. And then he goes, oh, so you broke
Speaker 1: up with him. She's like yeah, and then and then
Speaker 1: she says a bit.
Speaker 2: Later he took his life not long later, she said, yeah,
Speaker 2: she said it wasn't much longer later. So she's not
Speaker 2: not only dealt with the pain of that, but the gill, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, Mel was not comprehending any of that,
Speaker 2: none of that. There was no sign in his eyes
Speaker 2: or in his face at all of empathy or like,
Speaker 2: my god.
Speaker 1: He's nothing. So you're like, I'm surprised he wasn't.
Speaker 2: Like, so did you guys, like, did you break up
Speaker 2: or not? She's like, I just told you. He's like
Speaker 2: not alive, like, and he's like, so you're broken up
Speaker 2: for sure, though, like for real, you can prove it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can prove it. Like, first off, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: need to see it. I mean, he did nothing. Yes,
Speaker 1: there was nothing from him. It was bizarre. I was like,
Speaker 1: he literally said this, I wrote it down. He goes
Speaker 1: sorry to hear that.
Speaker 2: I mean, that is the worst thing you can say
Speaker 2: after a story, like, oh.
Speaker 1: I wrote down I wrote down. Mel might as well
Speaker 1: have said cool, cool, Yeah, that was his adicle. When's breakfast? Yeah,
Speaker 1: where's uh, where's crafty? I'm really hungry?
Speaker 2: And my son Mel is going back to I mean
Speaker 2: my sun Hunter is going back to Moscow, Like what, Mel,
Speaker 2: He's awful. I hear that awful and I was just
Speaker 2: completely checked out.
Speaker 1: And meanwhile, deb who used to be deb but now
Speaker 1: they call her Debbie. Debbie is like, I'm so into Mel, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: I just can't hope he chooses me. Like what in
Speaker 1: the world from that response made you feel like more
Speaker 1: connected to him. It's and I can not imagine that
Speaker 1: they're leaving stuff on the editing room floor. I can't.
Speaker 1: I think they're they're giving us everything they have. It's
Speaker 1: just not there, just isn't anything there. He just sits
Speaker 1: there like a stupid rock. Yeah. So then they go
Speaker 1: They're like, okay, I guess we got the vulnerable stuff
Speaker 1: out of the way. So they get to her backyard
Speaker 1: and everybody this is the creed. I thought this was
Speaker 1: the best like family scene. First of all, Debbie has
Speaker 1: a twin sister who looks nothing like Donna.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Donna she said that though she goes can't
Speaker 2: believe it. I'm that she's a little hit And I
Speaker 2: felt so bad for Donna.
Speaker 1: Horrible. It's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was like, I know I don't like her,
Speaker 2: and he didn't even take it in. He's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I didn't even know. He didn't say anything.
Speaker 1: You're like, Hi, Donna, I know, I know. And I
Speaker 1: thought it was kind of a little bit mean of
Speaker 1: Deb because like, okay, we get it, you're like obsessed
Speaker 1: with your weight, your misbeach body, but like, why do
Speaker 1: you have to be like I know you wouldn't believe this,
Speaker 1: this fatty is my twin.
Speaker 2: I thought Donna said it. I thought no, I think
Speaker 2: Donna herself said it. Not did did Deb say that?
Speaker 2: Deb said, I know swhere like, oh, okay, I could
Speaker 2: be wrong. I think it was the twin. I think
Speaker 2: it was the twin herself. I mean, that would be
Speaker 2: outrageous if Deb said that, and maybe if like, if
Speaker 2: that's the reason, well I don't want to get ahead
Speaker 2: of ourselves. But no, okay, okay, you're probably right, You're
Speaker 2: probably right.
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I just felt bad. I felt so bad
Speaker 1: for her, But also I also you know, it's not
Speaker 1: just a weight difference. It's that it seems like it's
Speaker 1: shows that Deb has had a lot of work done
Speaker 1: and the sister didn't. The sister aged naturally, and Deb
Speaker 1: obviously had facelift as filler has botox. So like, even
Speaker 1: though her work looks good, probably some East Coast doctor.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say her work doesn't look that good.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say the best work was definitely Cindy.
Speaker 2: If we're looking at the work, pegs botox is good.
Speaker 2: She she was relatively mild there. I love that I'm
Speaker 2: coming in as like an expert, But I mean, Cindy
Speaker 2: is where it's at Dallan, Texas. I've said this to
Speaker 2: you many times. That's where you want to go for
Speaker 2: the for the staff.
Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna be Dallas. That the family we'll get,
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to that whole family. But meanwhile, Mel
Speaker 1: is like, I'm going to go in the foot out
Speaker 1: in the backyard and throw a football around, and I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna have these guys. Oh just you wait, they're
Speaker 1: gonna really a big football ex football star like myself
Speaker 1: throw it a football around. Oh, these guys are they're
Speaker 1: gonna want my autograp.
Speaker 2: Like did you notice they're totally And then one guy
Speaker 2: was just laughing, non like nonsensically. I didn't really understand
Speaker 2: why this one dude was laughing. That was weird grilling.
Speaker 1: They're like, we're gonna be so we're such guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're all just like we're just a normal family. And
Speaker 1: then so then somebody has like, so, why do you
Speaker 1: like Debbie?
Speaker 2: And she he says, she has a personality that's so vague.
Speaker 1: Yes, well everybody has a.
Speaker 2: Personality, Like what what kind of like sociopathic?
Speaker 1: You like that?
Speaker 2: Like what is it that you like about it? He's
Speaker 2: out of his mind. Uh, yeah, she's got a really personality.
Speaker 2: She's uh, she's also she's got nose. She's got a nose.
Speaker 2: What do you mean, like a nose for cooking, like
Speaker 2: a nose for she's got ears, knees? Okay, you got knees.
Speaker 1: I hope neither of one place, because I don't like
Speaker 1: a I don't like an.
Speaker 2: Artific like wigs likes when I look at the twin,
Speaker 2: when I look at Donna, I'm.
Speaker 1: Thinking of wigs. Thank you. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Everyone was so intense at this moment, which was so
Speaker 2: and they're like yeah, And I thought it would be
Speaker 2: funny when they said like yeah, we again they said
Speaker 2: like we just want our mom to be happy or sister.
Speaker 2: What if somebody was like, you know what, we actually
Speaker 2: do not want deb to be happy, so whatever you
Speaker 2: can do to make that happen. Dumb.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that went very quickly.
Speaker 2: By the way, that whole conversation like blah blah blah
Speaker 2: blah blah.
Speaker 1: Buy mel Yeah, I mean that was that was some
Speaker 1: of that. I couldn't. I kept looking at my.
Speaker 2: Time, like, how are we already through two dates and
Speaker 2: there's this much time left?
Speaker 1: Okay, these were by notes, which is just it's just
Speaker 1: funny you and I were on the same same page.
Speaker 1: I just wrote, I wrote, this is really boring. I said,
Speaker 1: these are just nice, regular people. And then I said, note,
Speaker 1: the non twin sister looks a lot more like Debbie
Speaker 1: than the twin sister. And then I said, Debbie feels
Speaker 1: he's very sincere. She sees it in his eyes. And
Speaker 1: she kept saying, Okay, this was a thing. I don't
Speaker 1: have specifics, but she kept saying, like, I feel it
Speaker 1: so much, like he doesn't say anything to me, Like
Speaker 1: I mean, he told me he likes me. I told
Speaker 1: him I love him, and he told me he likes me.
Speaker 1: But I can just tell he doesn't even have to
Speaker 1: say it. He's super into me. And I was I'm
Speaker 1: not seeing it.
Speaker 2: No, nobody's seeing it. He's not showing it with anybody,
Speaker 2: and it's absurd. But at this point he's like, and
Speaker 2: I think this is important. At this point, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: he's not into Peggy by my estimation from watching the date.
Speaker 2: I'm like, he's not into Peggy, and now he's not
Speaker 2: into Debbie. So like, I guess, I guess he's going
Speaker 2: to have like super connection with Cindy.
Speaker 1: But here's a spoiler alert.
Speaker 2: He doesn't. So it's let me say this. To that point,
Speaker 2: I thought he was going to say. I thought he
Speaker 2: was going to get to Cindy and be like, you know,
Speaker 2: this isn't really done on the show very much, but
Speaker 2: I've made my decision. I'm choosing you right now, like
Speaker 2: some really cool, different, weird spin where he's like, this
Speaker 2: experiment is so strange because like, you're dating on but
Speaker 2: I know it's you one hundred percent. I can't even
Speaker 2: caree on. That's what I was sure was going to
Speaker 2: happen with Cindy. Well, oh that doesn't happen at all.
Speaker 2: So but here, so we have some bench time.
Speaker 1: First, Uh, they bring out the bench, they bring the
Speaker 1: they get the bread, they haul the bench, off the
Speaker 1: back of the truck and they put it in the
Speaker 1: front yard, you know, just like regular people have benches
Speaker 1: in their front yard. And then they sit and it's
Speaker 1: so boring, and they kiss and then they kiss a
Speaker 1: little bit more, and I wrote, well, he's kissing her
Speaker 1: a little bit more than Peggy at least, but they're showing,
Speaker 1: which makes it even more nonsensical. But okay, now we
Speaker 1: can go to Austin.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we go to Austin for hottie Cindy, where
Speaker 2: she's like, okay, you know you're gonna meet my daughters
Speaker 2: and it's whatever. So we're meeting all these people and
Speaker 2: the son in law and then she goes like this though,
Speaker 2: and nobody cares.
Speaker 1: But she also does this, She goes.
Speaker 2: If you're a good boy, I'll take you to see
Speaker 2: My god, I don't got her.
Speaker 1: What is so gross?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, good boy to talk about the condo
Speaker 2: was so weird. First of all, I missed because I
Speaker 2: thought she was from Dallas. I think originally maybe I
Speaker 2: don't know, but I missed that they were in Austin
Speaker 2: because I just funnily wrote, like, my god, this is
Speaker 2: so Dallas. But it wasn't even doubt, but it's all
Speaker 2: the same, Like that must be downtown. I don't know
Speaker 2: where they were in Austin, but it's so cookie cutter looking.
Speaker 2: That's not what Austin used to be. And I love
Speaker 2: that she's so proud of this, like dumb condo that's
Speaker 2: not that great.
Speaker 1: No, those condos, by the way, they have a lot.
Speaker 2: Of them in uptown in Dallas, that's called Uptown, and
Speaker 2: it like they have their like seven hundred square feet
Speaker 2: and they look over you know, they're pretty good views.
Speaker 2: But that's really small. So like seven hundred square feet
Speaker 2: maybe kind of old school granite count you know that
Speaker 2: kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they'll be like even in.
Speaker 2: Dallas, like thirty five hundred a month for a one bedroom.
Speaker 2: Those condos are just cheat It's like this shit that
Speaker 2: they put up here. It's just so cheesy and they're
Speaker 2: not cheap. It's like, oh my god, why she's so
Speaker 2: she's okay if you're a big but your big boy,
Speaker 2: how big is your boy? But if she said that
Speaker 2: and he's like pretty big, that's the first time we
Speaker 2: didn't get anything out of him.
Speaker 1: Hey, then you can see my condo circle thrust. It's
Speaker 1: so cheesy. Yeah, she's like for a circle thrust. Yes,
Speaker 1: oh yeah.
Speaker 2: He's like, which one's yours, Like he's gonna remember from
Speaker 2: the outside, well never, who cares. So he's going to
Speaker 2: meet the the very very pretty daughters and he tells
Speaker 2: He finally tells a story. Cindy gets special treatment for
Speaker 2: sure because he finally has something to say. He's like,
Speaker 2: or no, no, he doesn't. Actually she says it. She's like,
Speaker 2: remember the choreography, Well, Paula Abdul that was Was that
Speaker 2: her story or his?
Speaker 1: Yeah? That was her. She said you to worry about
Speaker 1: choreographer from the Mavericks.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yes, Paula a duel. Yeah, I guess who
Speaker 2: was there. Oh yeah, it's not even his story. Yes,
Speaker 2: she says that, and they're all excited and he's like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't know who she was, but
Speaker 2: it was pretty cool. So then she's like says all
Speaker 2: these dumb things like I.
Speaker 1: Just feel really safe. I feel so safe, and he
Speaker 1: does the same thing. This is gonna be mean, sorry,
Speaker 1: but all of these really young girls, they're all very
Speaker 1: Kardashian like, and they have all had work done, they've
Speaker 1: all had filler and botox, and what is happening? They're
Speaker 1: so young, none of them now at all. They did
Speaker 1: not have natural They couldn't make expressions, none of them.
Speaker 2: I was a little jealous of that. Honestly, I was like, God,
Speaker 2: I wish i'd known earlier, because that's what you're supposed
Speaker 2: to do. You're supposed to I think I think it's
Speaker 2: too much, too soon, But I think in your thirty
Speaker 2: you know, in your thirties, like get it started, you know.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I've seen it done well. I just
Speaker 2: wasn't one of those people. And now I'm like, ugh,
Speaker 2: So I was a little jealous of their beauty. And
Speaker 2: I'm sure so was their mom because Mel is like
Speaker 2: looking at them with googly eyes.
Speaker 1: Oh down to are you.
Speaker 2: He's not saying it, because he don't say anything apparently,
Speaker 2: but his eyes are showing it.
Speaker 1: Well, later he's going to be like, ah, your family
Speaker 1: is like they're so like polished. You're just saying they're hot.
Speaker 1: They're all like cookie cutter. That's his type. He wants them.
Speaker 2: But if he said at nowhere, okay, so like you're
Speaker 2: the producer and I'm Mel, and you're doing the on
Speaker 2: the fly interview afterwards, and you're like, okay, so so
Speaker 2: ask me what I thought of Sydney's family.
Speaker 1: Would you think of the.
Speaker 2: Titties were great, mel, you can't save them titties. No,
Speaker 2: what did you think about them, like as like part
Speaker 2: of their family? The cheese were high, they were they
Speaker 2: were high and mighty.
Speaker 1: They were hard to tell, hard, like nice and fake
Speaker 1: like I like them.
Speaker 2: I mean that's the only time his eyes sparkled when
Speaker 2: he was talking to the hot daughter. And then these
Speaker 2: daughters are going, they're they're going in the same wall
Speaker 2: that all the other kids have gone into. They're like,
Speaker 2: so you like my mom?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, it's like talking to a fourteen
Speaker 1: year old boy. I don't want to skate. Oh I
Speaker 1: want to talk about this. I just want to skateboard
Speaker 1: right now. Just let me skate. And then we're yes.
Speaker 1: But the only thing he asks just what are the daughters.
Speaker 1: He's like, uh, how come your mom hasn't have like
Speaker 1: a boyfriend. And the daughter's like, oh, I mean she's
Speaker 1: dated a lot of guys, she just hasn't really met
Speaker 1: the right guy. And you know, and then she's like,
Speaker 1: but do you love her? And He's like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know see what's going to unfold in the
Speaker 1: next few weeks from He goes, in the next few
Speaker 1: weeks or months or whatever for years? This is what
Speaker 1: do you understand what the show is? No? Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: like why would they leave that in?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they at least cut that out?
Speaker 2: Like next few weeks, months, years, I don't know how
Speaker 2: long it takes, not like it's the Bachelor.
Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't get months. What is happening? He goes,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna its naturally, you know, and then the goes, no, okay,
Speaker 1: could you see yourself like sitting in a rocking chair?
Speaker 1: And she means like when they're older, and he goes, no,
Speaker 1: no rocking chair. She goes okay, like or on a motorcycle.
Speaker 1: He goes no, no motorcycle. And she's like, okay, my god, okay,
Speaker 1: well climbing a mountain and he goes yeah, yeah, like maah,
Speaker 1: I could do that. Maybe, you know.
Speaker 2: I I think I thought she first corrected when she
Speaker 2: said rocking chair because she thought it sounded too old,
Speaker 2: so she went younger and she's like, okay, all right,
Speaker 2: you know sounds cool.
Speaker 1: Like a motorcat.
Speaker 2: He's like, help, yeah, that was insane. He's being so difficult.
Speaker 2: But I just had a thought. What first thought ever ever,
Speaker 2: which is Okay, what if it's not Mel's fault and
Speaker 2: he's just really at the editor so he's shut down.
Speaker 2: What if he did say this is all dat What
Speaker 2: if one day he's shooting and he's like, this is crazy.
Speaker 2: I love Cindy, I don't want to do all this.
Speaker 2: This is nuts, and they're like, no, Mel, you sign
Speaker 2: the thing, you have to do it. So he's shut
Speaker 2: down because he doesn't even believe in any of this. Now,
Speaker 2: maybe that's what happened.
Speaker 1: Is not his fault. I guarantee he does not love Cindy.
Speaker 1: He does not feel anything for any of these women.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm saying that too old. They're too old.
Speaker 1: Cindy's too old for him, even though they're younger. Right, Yes,
Speaker 1: she's too old for him. He doesn't he's not into it.
Speaker 1: I can just like feel it. But what I mean, whatever,
Speaker 1: we'll see. But then the daughter, it's the other daughter
Speaker 1: who's also whose name also starts with a C. I
Speaker 1: want to say, oh, yeah, they said their names, but
Speaker 1: I didn't like them and that daughter. Okay, So basically
Speaker 1: the daughter says to the camera like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if mel is unsure or tight lipped, but he did
Speaker 1: not give a lot of straight answers. And I'm very
Speaker 1: worried about the long term relationship that my mom wants,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to tell her. So you think we're
Speaker 1: going to get a tattling scene where she's like, mom,
Speaker 1: he's not He's smarmy, Like there's something about this guy
Speaker 1: that's not great. But she's like yeah, like you know,
Speaker 1: I was talking to him and like about like life
Speaker 1: slowing down and whatever, and I'm like, I'm just not
Speaker 1: sure he even sees himself like ever slowing down. Okay,
Speaker 1: don't you're making that like it's a good thing, Like
Speaker 1: he just really wants to be active, like you know,
Speaker 1: like yeah, And the mom's like, yeah, great, isn't that great? Right,
Speaker 1: it's good, Like, yeah, we don't want to slow down,
Speaker 1: and she's like no, but I mean, like I don't
Speaker 1: know if he can like be present with you, and
Speaker 1: Cindy goes, oh, yeah, yeah I can that and beyond
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's weird. God. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then so then he gets I'm like, why is
Speaker 2: she He gets bang time nobody else everyone else gets
Speaker 2: five minutes on a bench, but she's like, come over
Speaker 2: to my condo. Yeah, So he goes to the weird
Speaker 2: it's a very nice condo, but it's not anything like
Speaker 2: I don't know that i'd want to Why does she
Speaker 2: want to present that on TV? Like what? I wouldn't
Speaker 2: want that if I didn't have to do it.
Speaker 1: She's trying to get this guy. She's madly into him now,
Speaker 1: she's completely like chasing him, and she wants to show
Speaker 1: him like the kind of life they would have.
Speaker 2: She's like so weird, so that she's sitting in her right,
Speaker 2: she's sitting in her weird kitchen, and she's like She's like,
Speaker 2: so he's not saying anything, and she's like, so, I mean,
Speaker 2: did you like my kids?
Speaker 1: What a weird question? How is he?
Speaker 2: First all, if he didn't, he's not going to answer
Speaker 2: that honestly, right, He's like, yeah, they were cool. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's just I just wrote he's so withholding. Why is
Speaker 2: he like this? He's end this yeah, and then that's
Speaker 2: I made another note that he's not well, like I
Speaker 2: think he's physically in pain or maybe it's an apidet.
Speaker 2: He needs like a pence taken out.
Speaker 1: Right, I don't know. So then they go outside. They
Speaker 1: go outside to talk because she's feeling that there's like
Speaker 1: a chill and you know that they're not getting anywhere inside,
Speaker 1: and she's like, listen, let me ask you this question.
Speaker 1: Well she made I think. She tells the camera something like,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like I'm falling in love with him,
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to like big Elvis guy if
Speaker 1: I don't like kind of figure out where he's coming from.
Speaker 1: So she goes, yeah, like, let me let me tell
Speaker 1: you why I'm asking the question. Like, my kids thought
Speaker 1: you were really great, but they're not sure about how
Speaker 1: you feel about me. So I don't know how you're feeling.
Speaker 1: And I want to know because I'm really falling for you,
Speaker 1: and you've had two other hometowns, but I just want
Speaker 1: to like get a gut check from you. And Mel goes, well,
Speaker 1: it's complicated. You know, there's choices I have to make,
Speaker 1: but you know this brought me closer. And then Cindy goes, well,
Speaker 1: I do hope, you know, I do know that someone
Speaker 1: will pick me, and I hope it's you. So you're
Speaker 1: starting to think like maybe she's a little bit strong
Speaker 1: being strong, but mel just goes, well, that's why we're here,
Speaker 1: Like what, he can't fake it out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, nope, that's why I think he's in a fight
Speaker 2: with the producers.
Speaker 1: I swear to you.
Speaker 2: I think that makes maybe all right, let's round this out.
Speaker 2: All the ladies are upset on their way to the
Speaker 2: Rose ceremony and uh, because they're all like, I don't
Speaker 2: know where I stand. They're all very nervous and have
Speaker 2: these dumb talks with Jesse for no reason because.
Speaker 1: They're like, I don't know, I'm nervous, and Jesse stupid.
Speaker 2: Is like why you know why? You know what they're
Speaker 2: dealing with, Jesse, don't play along with this.
Speaker 1: I didn't like. It was just a waste. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, like, what the fuck? So? And then this
Speaker 1: is seems mad. Yes, yes, this is the fakest line
Speaker 1: of the whole thing. He's just like guys, guys, you
Speaker 1: know how like at the beginning when I met the
Speaker 1: whole group of you, and I had my Mia Kopa,
Speaker 1: you know, and I said, you know, I said I
Speaker 1: wanted a certain type of woman and guess what still
Speaker 1: do you know? What? All y'all, you're you're, You're what
Speaker 1: I'm looking for. You're right in front of me, and
Speaker 1: Cindy looks like she just got the compliment of her life.
Speaker 1: Oh I thought it was Debbie Dead. Yeah, Debbie. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: She was like, oh god, oh god, I'm not too old,
Speaker 2: I swear to god.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, that's so sad. That's just
Speaker 2: the saddest thing. So at this point, when they're all
Speaker 2: kind of looking at each other and you know, their
Speaker 2: eyes are darting around, I'm like, I literally wrote, Okay,
Speaker 2: well Peg is out. There's no question. There's no way
Speaker 2: that it's Peg. Absolutely not, no fucking way. Then he
Speaker 2: grabs his roses first, Rose Peg. I'm like, what the
Speaker 2: how is this happening? I know, I mean that was
Speaker 2: and then were you? And then you knew it was Cindy.
Speaker 2: Right like after that, I was like, well, there's no
Speaker 2: way it's Denver deb If it's not Cindy, I mean,
Speaker 2: I'll just let.
Speaker 1: He has them all. I didn't feel like he liked
Speaker 1: any of them, so I felt like he was just
Speaker 1: going with at this point. This is what I truly felt.
Speaker 1: I felt like the producers were like, pick Peg and
Speaker 1: like Cindy's kind of has a good fan base. I
Speaker 1: felt like he's like, I'm not pick any of these people.
Speaker 1: It's absurd. I'm not getting I'm not proposing to anybody.
Speaker 1: And they're like, Okay, then here's who you're gonna pick.
Speaker 2: This is exactly what happened. This I agree, here's what happened.
Speaker 2: He at some point, like probably pretty early on, was like,
Speaker 2: I don't like this. This makes no sense. I'm not
Speaker 2: doing this.
Speaker 1: This is crazy.
Speaker 2: So all that happened, and he's fighting. I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: he's fighting with them and what they want. If there's
Speaker 2: gonna be another season, which there might not be, but
Speaker 2: if there's gonna be a Golden Bachelorette, they probably wanted
Speaker 2: to be Peg because she would be fine and Meyer
Speaker 2: housing is super cool and we'd all love it, and
Speaker 2: uh so that's probably what they're aiming for. Their like, well,
Speaker 2: if you don't, if it's Cindy one hundred percent, just
Speaker 2: choose Peg so that we can make her the Golden Bachelorette,
Speaker 2: right because she'd be awesome.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: That's that's the end of the thing. So now we
Speaker 2: have to just sit through him pretending. But that's the
Speaker 2: saddest part of the show is he doesn't even pretend,
Speaker 2: and we're getting tired because he's like, I don't care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, like.
Speaker 2: A fourteen year old boy, yeah, or just a comedian boy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So uh, Jesse's like, Deb, I'm really sorry. Take as
Speaker 1: much time as you need, say your goodbyes, you pack
Speaker 1: your kniightes and go. They didn't even bother to cut.
Speaker 2: That's like, that's a different show, that's Top Chef, but
Speaker 2: you don't even say that here.
Speaker 1: So when they walk out, he goes and walks out
Speaker 1: with her. It swear to god, it looked like a
Speaker 1: grandpa holding his granddaughter's hand like that. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: so they they bench it. They have bench time, and
Speaker 1: Deb's like, I knew this was a possibility, but you
Speaker 1: touched my heart in more ways than what he said that.
Speaker 2: He said it back, he said that he said you
Speaker 2: touched my heart, which he said it, and then you're like,
Speaker 2: in what ways did she touch your heart? You're not
Speaker 2: even choosing her in the final two, so in more
Speaker 2: ways than one, seems like you would choose, but then.
Speaker 1: Hey, you go to those girls. Oh my god, that
Speaker 1: was the cringiest goodbye ever. I mean it was so bad. Okay,
Speaker 1: hold on before we and then next week to add
Speaker 1: insult to injuries, just women, tell all, my god.
Speaker 2: We'll make it. We'll make it great. You guys, he says,
Speaker 2: there's a here for you.
Speaker 1: Golden Bachelor. This is an US weekly thing. Golden Bachelor.
Speaker 1: Mel Owens remains unfiltered on his controversy, his backstory, and
Speaker 1: his quote brilliant ending of all the inflammatory isms out there,
Speaker 1: the most shocking one for a Golden Bachelor to be
Speaker 1: accused of his agism, that's what happened to mel Owens.
Speaker 2: Okay, what happened to him? Yeah, it happened to him.
Speaker 2: He's such a victim, you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, the comments a far cry from the it's never
Speaker 1: too late for a second chance at love he said. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is what he says. I'm not really on
Speaker 1: social media, so I didn't even know people were sending
Speaker 1: me screenshots and saying, oh my god, are you still there?
Speaker 1: And I go, I am, because I didn't hear anything
Speaker 1: to the contrary. He tells us about the replacement, But
Speaker 1: I really didn't give it too much thought because that's
Speaker 1: just noise in the background. ABC and Warner Brothers believed
Speaker 1: in me, and I'm glad they did. In some ways,
Speaker 1: it's not hard to see why the show's stuck with
Speaker 1: Owen's in person. He's charming, good looking, and has a
Speaker 1: Midwest background that fits the mold of the audience. In
Speaker 1: his late mades, he traded in his football cleats to
Speaker 1: start law school, and in his forties a family. He
Speaker 1: has two sons. Okay, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Let's get to the part where his forty's a family,
Speaker 2: of course, with a twenty five year old woman.
Speaker 1: So will he end up in love with more than
Speaker 1: one person? He almost scoffs at the idea, despite its
Speaker 1: frequent occurrence on the long running franchise. No, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to fall in love.
Speaker 2: Twice he tells us quote, conflict is good for the show,
Speaker 2: but not good for the heart. Will He gets exactly
Speaker 2: make it, you're making my point. He doesn't want to
Speaker 2: do all this bullshit. He's like, this is bullshit. That's
Speaker 2: why he's pretending. That's why he's like being obstinate. He's
Speaker 2: mad at the show. I'm telling you he's might not
Speaker 2: ever say this, But I mean, you think I'm giving
Speaker 2: him more credit. But what else could it be? That
Speaker 2: he just doesn't believe in the show. But he knew
Speaker 2: what he was getting in too. He wanted the fame,
Speaker 2: and he probably doesn't even think about it.
Speaker 1: He's like, Oh, I'm going to write a book about
Speaker 1: ESP and then this will help. So, it says Will
Speaker 1: he get engaged? Certainly not just because the format seems
Speaker 1: to dictate it. Quote I told the producers I'm here
Speaker 1: with an open heart and open mind, he says. Quote,
Speaker 1: but it's a two way street. Just because I want
Speaker 1: to get engaged doesn't mean they want to get engaged.
Speaker 1: They might want to date me, like you're cool, let's
Speaker 1: just hang out. No, that's you, mel Will he say
Speaker 1: I love you at all? Hard to tell? Quote, It's
Speaker 1: got to be a true feeling. You can't just say
Speaker 1: the words because then they'd be hollow. I can say
Speaker 1: I really like you, and that's meaningful. To fall in love,
Speaker 1: it takes some time. So that's the brilliant ending.
Speaker 2: He's pushing back against producers. Yes, so what he's gonna
Speaker 2: do is gonna choo me, like, you be my girlfriend
Speaker 2: and like date me for a while, and she'd be like, yay,
Speaker 2: this is or hopefully there's no there's no good ending
Speaker 2: that we want. We want her to be like, well,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know after thinking about it, you're
Speaker 2: just awful. She's not gonna say it. I don't know why,
Speaker 2: because Cindy could have anyone. Cindy, you could be with
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 2: I know he's not the most popular football owner in
Speaker 2: the world. A lot of people don't like him, but
Speaker 2: there's some oil money in there.
Speaker 1: Go get it, girl, go get it. You're you've, you've,
Speaker 1: Like she could go on.
Speaker 2: She could be a coach on the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders
Speaker 2: show on Netflix that I love so much.
Speaker 1: That's go do that, Like she's she could really do
Speaker 1: just fine.
Speaker 2: She doesn't need this, she doesn't need this guy. She's
Speaker 2: not in love with him. No, PEG's definitely not. PEG's
Speaker 2: so not in love with him that she was making
Speaker 2: jokes with her mother about it, like her mom's like,
Speaker 2: do I need to approval? She's like, oh yeah, you
Speaker 2: got to give approval, and they just laughed. Nobody's taking
Speaker 2: it seriously except for us.
Speaker 1: You're welcome. Okay, so this is what he says. I
Speaker 1: had to scam through this whole article. But okay, so
Speaker 1: he says, I'm leading up to it. There, US back
Speaker 1: Weekly is asking him about the ending, and he goes,
Speaker 1: I'm leading up to it. You have the setting and
Speaker 1: I know who it is. It's really emotional, and you're
Speaker 1: a little nervous, but it's so brilliant. It's so good.
Speaker 1: You won't believe it. He sounds like Trump, And then
Speaker 1: US Weekly Commentary is, what does that mean? Our second
Speaker 1: Golden Bachelor continues to perplex us. Quote, you won't believe
Speaker 1: how we get there, not mechanically, but how we get
Speaker 1: there emotionally. He clarifies, there's some movement and twists and turns. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Movement, Yeah, like his penis.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You guys, well, stay tune next week.
Speaker 2: You know if this isn't like floating your boat, and
Speaker 2: it should be because it's Melan he's hot. We've got
Speaker 2: our Love is Blind reunion next week, which I have
Speaker 2: a good I have a good feeling about that, and
Speaker 2: of course we will do until all plus all our
Speaker 2: other stuff that we do.
Speaker 1: Including if you're not, if you if you don't.
Speaker 2: Know our Board a F podcast. It's right there in
Speaker 2: front of you. It's kind of the best thing we do,
Speaker 2: absolutely for that, like so that you can't hear it. No,
Speaker 2: I'm I mean like we don't give a fuck. The
Speaker 2: whole thing started on us not caring, and now we
Speaker 2: care less and.
Speaker 1: We get in trouble. We get in trouble every week.
Speaker 1: Every week we re look.
Speaker 2: At it and go we should probably not post that,
Speaker 2: and we do.
Speaker 1: Yep, So all right, we'll see you for the next thing.
Speaker 1: Plus I would cringe, don't forget that. Yep.
Speaker 2: I