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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the All Eighties Movies Podcast, the

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podcast where we talk about the block, clusterer, stuff.

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Speaker 2: Locks, everythink in between. One of the precious decade for movies,

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nineteen eighties.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host Bill Band. Along with me on this

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journey of read this in eighties movies is my co

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host Jason Massek. Hello, Jason, Hey, hey, hey, hey, Now,

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don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because remember,

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no matter where you go, there you are.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Listeners, we are discussing with spoilers of plenty, the nineteen

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eighty four cult classic The Adventures of Bukaro Bonzai Across

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the Eighth Dimension. It was produced by Sherwood Productions and

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distributed by Twentieth Century Fox. The movie stars Peter Weller,

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John Lithgow, Ellen Barkin, Jeff Goldbloom, and Christopher Lloyd. Directed

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by W. D. Richter, This movie is raty PG with

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the running time of one hour and forty three minutes.

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So what is this movie about? What's in the box?

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If you grew up in the nineteen eighties and what's

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your local video store? To rent this movie? You would

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find this description on the back of the VHS box.

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It is what's in the box, Take it away, Jason.

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Speaker 2: Almost immediately after its release, The Adventures of Buckeroo Bonzi

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earned the status of an instant cult classic. It's not surprising.

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Buckeroo Bonzai is a dynamic marriage of camped up sci

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fi and edge of the seat suspense. It's a larger

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than life hero in an unforgettable quest, colorful, crazy, and

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fabulously entertaining. Buckeroo Bonzai is a top neurosurgeon, race car driver, rockstar,

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and comic book hero and probably the last hope of

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the human race. His latest experiments have opened the door

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to the Eighth Dimension and have unwittingly begun an inner

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stellar battle for the world. On one side are the

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Red Lectroids, whose leader inhabits the body of Doctor Lizardo.

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On the other, the Black Lectroids and our hero Buckaroo,

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backed by his rock and roll commandos, the Hong Kong

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Cavaliers and his sweetheart Penny Pretty best of luck Team Banzai.

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The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai.

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Speaker 1: The Adventures of Bukaroo Banzai across the Eighth Dimension. That's right,

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So that was what's in the box that Jason I

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just gave us and Jason Newrom the first time you

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saw this movie.

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Speaker 2: I just saw it for this podcast for the very

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first time, and man, I can't wait to talk about it.

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I do have to give a shout out to Rob Huckstadt.

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He was one of my great friends in high school

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and he always said this was his favorite movie, and

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I never knew why because I never watched it and

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I'm a bad friend, So sorry, Rob. But now I've

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watched it and I still don't know why it was

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his favorite. I might, actually I might, but I'm just

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making a joke here, miss you. Rob. He used to

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call me Iceman and he was archangel. But anyway, what

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when When did you see this first bill Band?

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Speaker 1: I believe it was March of nineteen ninety one because

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it was part of my twenty five movies in five

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days my first spring break in college. I had no money.

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My parents decided to fly me back home from the

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University of Miami, so I had nothing to do. I

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had no plans, so I went over to Budget Video

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and just started reddit movies I had missed from the eighties,

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movies like The Adventures a Buck, Rubh's I Across the

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Eighth to Mension, Black Moon Rising, the Wraith movies like that,

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and for five days, that's what I pretty much did

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and catched up on old La Law episodes.

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Speaker 2: That was my week. Heck, yeah, I can't wait to

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cover The Wraith Man. That's one of my oh yeah favorites.

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That's a crazy movie. That would definitely be a good

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one two punch this one for sure. Yeah right right,

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the twenty five movies. It's just that's a lot, man,

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that's a marathon for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could do that again someday. But we

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don't have video stores anymore. So that really made me

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miss video stores because I think because of that, I

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probably never would have seen a movie like this. I

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didn't know anybody that had seen it before, and I

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don't even remember someone at school talking about it. But

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it was just because of the cast. I was like,

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in this movie. I have to watch it. And if

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I tried to find this on streaming, forget it. I

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mean streaming has its place, there's some good things about it.

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if I made that trip to go out there. I

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wasn't coming back empty hand it. I was finding something right,

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and sometimes you find gems like this The Adventures of

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Buck Group onsidea yea, indeed. All right, So let's talk

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about the movie and what are impressions of buckru Bonzai. So, Jason,

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I'm going to ask you first before we get into it.

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How many times did you watch the movie for the podcast?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So I watched it all the way through once,

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out what the hell was going on, I probably watched

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it three times. I'm exaggerating. I've probably watched that. I

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Speaker 1: But yeah, how long did it take you to somewhat

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Speaker 2: And so what? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Because even I had to keep going back In a way,

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this movie was stressing me out because I'm like, oh

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my god, we got to talk about this on the podcast,

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and I'm not even sure I'll tell the audience what

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this movie is about. Outside of buckru Bonzai is a neurosurgeon,

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rock and roll physicist.

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Speaker 2: And don't forget martial artist.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I had no idea what was going on and

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how to explain it. So if you have never seen

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this movie before, don't worry if you're confused, because you

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will be is very confusing. How did this get produced?

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wrote this Jason, and you gave it to me, how

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many questions would I have had for you?

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Speaker 2: No less than a thousand?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we would have had at least a three hour

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conversation going through this me asking you to explain everything, like, right,

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why is he need to be a rock star with

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these blue Blazers? How do you become a Blue Blazer?

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feel like I missed part one or part two correct,

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Speaker 2: Wait, was this based on a book? Was there something

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else that I'm missing? Exactly exactly?

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Speaker 1: Just assume what's going on? But it's not. This is

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an original screenplay that was somehow put on screen. I'm

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not saying that in a bad way, But there's no

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way this movie would get made now. There's no way

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we get through the studio system. It would have to

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be someone would have to finance it themselves. That's the

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only way it would get made. Right, It literally bankrupt

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a studio, and I'm not surprised. So I was really

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curious to see if you kind of knew what the

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plot was, could you even explain it under five minutes.

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Speaker 2: Because it's so I could. Yeah, I think I could,

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only because Bill Bant. I sat here in my apartment

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and rehearsed it probably six or seven times, because not

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on purpose, like I wasn't rehearsing it as if I

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was going to do this on the podcast. However, I

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just may now. I was saying it out loud to

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explain it all to myself, so I had some comprehension

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of what I was watching and what was happening, And

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then of course I read the plot through on Wikipedia

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to confirm that. I mean, it is the major complaint

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enjoyed this, But my big complaint is that the plot

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is way too convoluted and it's just too much. What

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I wrote down first and foremost was that it feels

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like a bunch of ten year old boys got together

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and said, hey, let's make a movie, and they just said,

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we're going to put every single one of our cool

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ideas in it. Yes, and that's what it feels. It

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feels like a young boy's wish fulfillment film. And here's

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another issue I had. We'll get back. Sorry, I don't

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want to get two sidetracked because we got so much

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to talk about, because I want to do want to

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talk about the plot. However, I went into this film

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not knowing anything about it. I hadn't read anything about it.

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I literally had no clue what the tone of this

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film was, what the genre was, So I had no

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idea it was going to be an action sci fi comedy,

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so that this film is actually parodying many other sci

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fi films that came before it. So I caught on

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somewhat quickly. I'm like, oh, this is meant to be

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super campy and things like that. But then and then

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to the plot, now, that's where I just started getting

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I got lost and I felt like I was missing things.

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read that there were things that were taken out of

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this film. There's different versions of this movie, and that

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kind of turned it into a plot mess. Yeah, So

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to explain it in sixty seconds actually or less. All right,

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go for it, all right? Well, of course it's stars

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are Bukaroo Bonzi, who is a man of many talents,

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a neurosurgeon, a test pilot, molish martial artist, and a

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rock star did I say rockstar already? But he's joined

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by his band of fellow super stars and just all

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around badass. Is called the Hong Kong Cavaliers. But the

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point is Bukaroo Bonzai and his all his genius and

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his partner, Professor Hikita. Professor Kikita and Bukaroo have developed

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this technology called the oscillation overthruster, and it is this

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little piece of its gadgetry that allows you to penetrate

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a solid object and enter that object and thus enter

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what is called the eighth dimension. And we see this

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in the opening of the film. They go inside of

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a mountain through using the jet car which is powered

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by this oscillation overthruster. Now, this technology, when used, has

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alerted an alien race called the Electroids, and they are

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from outer space. But we also learn that these Lectroids

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have been trapped within the eighth dimension for a reason

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because on planet ten, somewhere out in the galaxy, these

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Lectroids had some sort of civil war of you if

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in this eighth dimension, which happens to be on Earth

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within the Mountain. I guess. However, now because of this

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which would be John Lithgow's character, who happens to be

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wants or happens to want to free the Red Electroids

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from this eighth dimension. And if John Lithgow's character, Lord

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John Wharfin gets a hold of Buckeroo's oscillation Overthruster, then

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he will be able to release the evil Red Electroids

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from the eighth dimension, and then they will fly back

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to Planet ten and exact the revenge on the Black Electroids.

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to it if you can believe it, but I'm going

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to leave it at that right now, right a little

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over a minute to explain it, just yeah, you can

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have to. That was just that's the whole podcast right there.

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Speaker 2: That was a cool aspect for sure.

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Speaker 1: Saying that the famous radio drama that people thought was

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actually real because that's when the Red Lectoids did come

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to Earth and then brainwashed orson Wells into saying that

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it was a hoax.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. That was fun. I did enjoy that little

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nugget that they put in there. Yeah, man, I mean,

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this movie is a wild and weird trip. I've used

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the expression fever dream before and it kind of feels

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like that type of movie. This is one of the

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ultimate you just have to go with it type of

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movie I mentioned. It feels like it was just made

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by a bunch of ten year old boys. You know.

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into the cast right now. And my biggest question, I

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be in this movie. I saw some of the casting

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in the research behind, you know, the scenes research, but

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it still doesn't explain like this is an incredible cast.

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Speaker 1: Well, you think about it. It's nineteen eighty four and

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the reason why I do like this movie. It's just

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because of everyone that is in it. A scene does

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not go by where you're like, holy crap, that's blah

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blah blah, and I was like, Okay, So Peter Weller

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who plays Buckaroo buckerou Bounds, we didn't really know him

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until RoboCop, so this is pre RoboCop for him. Plancy Brown,

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no one knew who he was at the time. Really

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the big names of Jeff Goldbloom because big Chill, but

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he wasn't a name name yet he does exactly what

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we know him for. The quirky side character wasn't carrying

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movies like The Fly at that time, Ellen Barkin Diner.

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That was about it, true, John Lithcow. I think the

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only other movie he might have done up to that

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so yeah, I got to give the casting director a

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lot of credit to and the producers for pulling in

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all this talent. Did you realize the president was Ronald

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Lacy from raisl lost Ark? Oh?

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but no, I didn't even think about that. Wow.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea until I had to read the cast.

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I did not recognize him at all, And at first

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I thought, oh, maybe it's a mistake, but yes, why

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can't I think of his character from Maise lost Ark,

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the one who grabs the medallion and has it burned

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on his hand. Doesn't look anything like him? Oh my god,

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not at all. No. I literally just watched that scene

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again just to see what kind of resembled. I'm like,

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it's really hard, like you can tell it's him. But wow,

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if I didn't see in the credits, I've been like, oh,

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maybe it is, Maybe it isn't.

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Speaker 2: Now I have to I just got to go back

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and look at it. That's crazy, right, I just didn't.

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I never ever would have put that to Kaila.

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Speaker 1: And then another interesting thing was there's only like three

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actresses in this movie. Everyone else is male. H Outside

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the bar scene, do you see women in there, but

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I was like, holy moly, this is very male dominated movie.

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I don't know why that seemed to surprise me so much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's a great point. Again, ten year old

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boys made this movie clearly, and we made a great

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point about the casting as well. Absolutely, they were not

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who we know them to be today, So at that time,

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it's not like they were asking for millions of dollars

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to be in this movie or anything like that. So

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I love the names of these characters, all of the

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I mean all these characters. We've got Buckero Bonzi, We've

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got the Hong Kong Cavaliers, what a great name. And

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we've got Reno Perfect, Tommy Rawhide, Penny Pretty New Jersey

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is Goldbloom's character. I love that all these guys, of course,

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are just like best buds in a rock and roll

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band that happen to be badasses running around saving the world.

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They're basically dudes in cool threads running around with guns.

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I don't know how they got the authority to do

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what they do, but they have it. And obviously Buckaroo

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has a direct line to the President as well. It's amazing,

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like who are these guys? But it's super super fun.

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attached to Buckaroo, but we have these Blue Blaze Irregulars

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that are basically like a Bucker Bonzai volunteer force that

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can be called upon at any time. And then we

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see a father son duo actually join the mission throughout

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this movie that are they're they're like citizens. There were civilians,

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but they are part of the Blue Blaze Irregulars. I

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thought that was real cool. But like, if you're listening

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right now, you can see how overloaded this film is already.

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I mean, it's just there's so many different aspects, but

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they're just a lot of great fun sci fi aspects

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to I mean, I mentioned the electroids. They are are aliens,

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which are the good guys and bad guys in this movie.

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for some reason, because that's the name they decided to

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take when they came to Earth. But anyway, I just

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wanted to cover the names a little bit. They're just

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a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of interesting nuggets in it. And

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I know you're one that like, oh they read this again,

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this would have to be a television show, ah, right,

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like a six part series to try to get all

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this information into what they're trying to c him into

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an hour and forty three minutes. Yeah, it's too much,

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it really is. It's too much, major complaint of mine.

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But Peter Weller looks fantastic. He's an absolute stud in this.

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Speaker 2: I was just last night watching the robodoc about the

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making of RoboCop, which is absolutely amazing, and he briefly

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mentions backer Ubonzai being a wonderful experience. Jeff Goldbloom is

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Jeff Goldblum, always simple, nothing complicated about his character except

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he looks super goofy. He literally is dressed as a

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cowboy that's.

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Speaker 1: Never explained, like why are you in that cock? It's

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like a comical adaptation of what a cowboy should look like.

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And there's only one reference like where's your spurs? And

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then that's it and he just swears it for the

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rest of the movie.

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Speaker 2: You're like, why, Yeah, it's how you would dress up

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as a cowboy for like a children's fair, Yes, you know,

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for like the pony rides and stuff, like, I mean,

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it's completely like this, And then we get Lewis Smith

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playing Perfect Tommy, who's a super handsome dude. Like, why

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do I know this guy? He looks he has real

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like James Franco vibes. He just has that square jaw

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on that kind of pretty boy face. And he really

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didn't do.

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Speaker 1: Much outside of this from one other thing, yeah, the

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Heaven Ken, which I saw the drive inn. It was

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on the bill. It wasn't the first movie. I think

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it was like the second or third movie we saw

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that was a heaven Kid. That was the first and

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only time I've seen it.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Clancy Brown. I love this guy, man,

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I love him. I actually liked his character raw Hide

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a lot in this and well, I won't say it now,

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maybe you have it in a favorite scene. Well I'll

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wait for it later. But always a pleasure, always pleasure

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to see Clancy Brown. Can we talk about Ellen Barkin

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though for a second? Go ahead. First of all, super talented,

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wonderful actress. I have to ask, though, is there any

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female actress that exudes more sexuality and sensuality? I know

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we talked about this in Sea of Love, but I mean,

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she is on fire and I was thinking maybe Gina

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Gershan was another one for me today could be Scarlet Johansson.

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But more importantly, the reason why I want to talk

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about her for a second is, holy shit, she's really

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strange in this. I don't know what her character is.

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I know who she's supposed to be in the movie,

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and I know she's supposed to be part of the

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relationship aspect of this, bringing some romance into the film,

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being bucer Ubonzai's romantic interest. But it's just weird. Did

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you think she's really emoting a lot her sexuality in this?

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And I did? It felt like she was in a

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different movie sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't really like her character in this. Yeah,

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I don't even know why she was in it, correct,

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But again, I'm watching her on screen. I'm like, I

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would not have a poster of Ellen Barkin on my wall.

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But if I was somewhere and she walked into the room,

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all eyes turn. I find her incredibly sexy, But I

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don't think she's attractive, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'll disagree with you on that, but

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I but I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: But there is a shot of her when Buckaroo sees

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her in the prison and she walks over and she

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gives us look and I'm like, wow, yeah, that I

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was like super hot. Like her, her skin is flawless

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and it doesn't look like there's any makeup, and I'm like, wow,

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she has great skin. She has great legs too. I

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would never consider her pretty per se, she's just sexy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just it's it's just who she is.

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And but the character, the character is wildly bizarre. She's

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acting a little bit like a lunatic. In the first

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we understand that she has some emotional issues from the

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start because she's attempting suicide in the club scene. But

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then after Buckeroo gets her out of prison, then she

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is immediately actually attracted to him and really really wants

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to to be with him, And then we understand that

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she is sort of just lost in the world. She

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doesn't know who she's supposed to be, and she might

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be his wife's twin, the wife that he lost. I

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don't know. Do we know how he even lost his wife? Nope,

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we never find that out. And his wife's name was Peggy,

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but her name is Penny, so it might be a twin.

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And we find she's adopted. Like it's just all these

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character things are thrown in there, but nothing is really resolved.

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It's it's and she's just kind of being weird as wild.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because when he first sees her at the club,

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you would think he would have more of a reaction

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because he would recognize her thinking it was his wife

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and freaking out about and he just seems so calm

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about it. And then the rest of the group's kind

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of like, holy shit, this girl looks exactly like Peggy

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m He doesn't really seem phased about it until she

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keeps it act him like, why is there a picture

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of me in your house? It's like, oh, that was

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my wife.

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Speaker 2: She's dead. That's over. Like what, Yeah? They just keep

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adding layers. How about we move right into then another

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wild performance in this movie, The Indelible John Lithgow, Oh

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my god. He plays the character Emilio Lozardo doctor Emilio

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Lizardo slash John Wharfin, and right from the get I

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was like, what is he doing? What is happening? He's amazing,

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He's amazing. He is really fun to watch. All of

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his physical movements, the way he turns his head and smiles.

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He's got these really messed up teeth and he's got

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this weird greenish face and you really you learn why,

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but still it's he must have had an absolute field

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day playing this role, because he's playing it so over

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the top, so exaggerated in every facial express moment, and

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he has a very heavy Italian accent on top of it,

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as he's this crazed Italian doctor of some kind. I

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don't know, what do you think about John Lithgow in this.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he was so much fun. I think, Yeah, you'd

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be so excited to just have that kind of roles,

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just like, just do whatever you want, just do whatever

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you want and just have fun with it. And he's

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a blast. He is so freaking bizarre. Yea, every scene

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you can't take your eyes off of him. He's just

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so It's like, how did you come up with this?

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I did see a couple of the interviews that they

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had with some of the actors looking back on it,

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and all of them said the same thing. They had

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a blast making this movie. They had no idea what

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the movie was about, but they just had a blast

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doing it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that. I love that he has some

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wonderful lines, and I actually think his character has some

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really good writing. Some fun writing because he basically screws

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up every like classic expression or thing. You could say,

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something like he'll say home is where you hang your

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hat instead of home is where the heart is kind

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of thing. And there's several times he does it in

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the movie, and it's pretty funny if you pick up

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on it. One line, though, I have to say, and

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just beware, I understand there's a racial overtone to this,

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but I couldn't believe he said it. But then I

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understood why because his character is talking about the electroids

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in this, but he literally is at the final action

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sequence when he's at the Yo Yo Dyne Propulsion Industry's

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headquarters where all the red lectroids have been residing and living.

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It's like their nest. He is trying to get them

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riled up and gives this just this big speech, and

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he says, blacks are on this planet here in New Jersey,

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coming to destroy us. And of course he's talking about

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the black lectroids, like holy crap, man, but wow.

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Speaker 1: And then he keeps calling humans monkey boys, which makes

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sense because you know, he supposedly evolved from primates. So

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I'm like, that's hilarious, monkey boy.

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Speaker 2: He's deranged in this and you do find out why,

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00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,680
and I'm going to talk about it in a little

469
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,480
bit here, but love him in this.

470
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So this movie did bomb. Now do

471
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,720
you think if this movie was made now, which I

472
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,160
don't think it would be made, do you think with

473
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,440
all the superhero stuff and all that, do you think

474
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,440
this movie would be have a better chance making it

475
00:26:28,519 --> 00:26:30,160
now than it did back then?

476
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 2: I think so because of streaming, for sure. I think

477
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:38,279
it would be critically acclaimed and it would get enough

478
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,839
media attention that people would know what they're getting into

479
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,480
when they were watching it. I think that's just the

480
00:26:44,599 --> 00:26:47,039
nature of the business today that you'd find out so

481
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,839
much about The trailers would give out probably a lot

482
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,480
more information. I don't think it would be a huge

483
00:26:53,559 --> 00:26:56,200
hit at the box office, I do not, but I

484
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,559
think it would be critically acclaimed and so it would

485
00:26:58,599 --> 00:27:00,119
get a lot more eyes on it.

486
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did watch the trailer. Trailer gives you nothing.

487
00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:06,559
But if they made this, maybe even a decade later,

488
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:09,200
with that same cast, at that point, you know who

489
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:12,319
everybody is. Yeah, I think that definitely gets it more

490
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,240
butts for sure. But in that case, how do you

491
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:17,599
promote this movie. It doesn't make any sense.

492
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 2: It's a campy sci fi parody, is what it is.

493
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,920
I mean, And I like that aspect of it because

494
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,759
it doesn't take itself seriously. It's very fun. There's aspects

495
00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:29,640
of this that in moments felt like it was a

496
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,079
Zucker Brothers movie. When the President pulls out the declaration

497
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,599
of war the short form, yes, now we got these

498
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,000
little gags in here, just like a Zucker Brothers movie.

499
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,920
And I was like, Wow, that's funny. Why does now

500
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,799
this feel like a naked gun or something like that?

501
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,160
So that's great, that's really fun. They definitely wanted this

502
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,319
to be a bigger thing. They were really going for

503
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,920
the multimedia aspect within the movie itself. Unfortunately, it just

504
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,759
didn't work out that way. Like you said, it bankrupted

505
00:27:59,759 --> 00:28:02,440
this But you know, I'm going to save my other

506
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,359
complaints for later for that segment. But it just took

507
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:11,559
me a minute to understand that this was a total campfest.

508
00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: And I think this is part of the draw off

509
00:28:13,839 --> 00:28:15,839
for the movie is because you do really have to

510
00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:18,240
watch multiple times. You just have to watch it twice

511
00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:20,920
just understand the plot, and then once you figure that out,

512
00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:24,759
that's when you start catching the lines or the site

513
00:28:24,759 --> 00:28:27,440
gags and all that other stuff. Every time you watch it,

514
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,799
you're going to catch something different. Yeah, and I lied.

515
00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm going to step on my complaints a little

516
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,759
bit here and say that the issue I had too

517
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,559
is just that I felt like some of these actors

518
00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:42,920
and characters are in different movies. And then also Peter

519
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,240
Weller himself kind of plays it sincerely, like there are

520
00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:50,000
there's some sincere aspects to this movie that feel like

521
00:28:50,079 --> 00:28:52,960
it was actually going to be a true sci fi

522
00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:56,720
action adventure film. But then it just takes these random

523
00:28:56,799 --> 00:29:00,319
left turns and some weird things happen, and so it

524
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,440
becomes a little bit of a bumpy road for me.

525
00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:04,000
The tone kind of goes up and down.

526
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,519
Speaker 1: Oh see, I'd like to I felt like he kind

527
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:09,599
of played it straight throughout. Yeah, and just all this

528
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,440
weirdness is happening, and to him it just seems like

529
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,119
an everyday occurrence.

530
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that's probably the way he should have played it.

531
00:29:17,519 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, all right, do you want to move on

532
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,039
to favorite scenes or moments or he has anything else?

533
00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:24,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it. No, let's go, let's get down

534
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:24,359
with it.

535
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, favorite scenes or moments and I believe you and

536
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,079
I have the same for the first one, which is

537
00:29:32,119 --> 00:29:36,319
the deck car test. Heck, yeah, so this had to

538
00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:39,319
be interesting to you because you had no idea what

539
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:40,480
the hell is going on?

540
00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:41,279
Speaker 2: Right?

541
00:29:41,319 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: And I even thought about this too. If you're watching

542
00:29:43,759 --> 00:29:47,039
this movie for the first time, they're like, okay, rocket car,

543
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,160
all right, makes sense. And then next thing you know,

544
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,839
Buckeroo drives it off road and then drives it through

545
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,759
a mountain and all this weirdness happens and you're like,

546
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,680
what the fuck was that? Then you still have everyone

547
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,000
in the lab watching this, and they all seem to

548
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:06,119
know that this was supposed to happen, or at least

549
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:06,799
most of them did.

550
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:09,359
Speaker 2: H It's so bizarre.

551
00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:12,079
Speaker 1: It takes it right into it like this movie is

552
00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:15,920
gonna be different from anything that you've seen, And now

553
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,440
you're scrambling going, what the hell is going on? Yeah,

554
00:30:19,559 --> 00:30:22,799
whyser slim all over his car like Ghostbusters, what the

555
00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:25,119
hell is grab on to the underneath of his car,

556
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:28,960
this little pod thing? What the hell hit his car

557
00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:31,240
while he was We don't know what's the eighth dimensioned

558
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,240
at that point, but it's just really weird.

559
00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:35,359
Speaker 2: It is a hell of an intro. It is one

560
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,000
hell of an intro. I like the way it was shot.

561
00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:40,519
I like the way it was paced. It is again

562
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,920
just like, yeah, give me a rock and roll Like

563
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,599
I guess it's a Ford three point fifty I read

564
00:30:47,839 --> 00:30:50,279
with all this stuff loaded on top of it, with

565
00:30:50,319 --> 00:30:53,039
a giant jet engine on the back, and it's just

566
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,200
cruising through the wide open desert. It looks fantastic. I

567
00:30:57,279 --> 00:31:01,160
love Peter Weller's entrance, bucker Ubond's entrance. You do not

568
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,039
see Peter Weller's face for the first eleven and a

569
00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:06,559
half minutes of this movie. You see him doing his

570
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,119
neurosurgeon thing, but he's behind the mask and he's talking

571
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,559
to gold Bloom's character and recruiting him for the Hong

572
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,519
Kong Cavaliers. Meanwhile, everybody's waiting for him because he's supposed

573
00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:17,680
to be the test pilot for this jet car, and

574
00:31:17,759 --> 00:31:20,000
they got this great music and build up and they're like, well,

575
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,200
we got to go without him, And then all of

576
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,359
a sudden, of course, he appears right on the scene

577
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,319
magically and gets in the car and you have all

578
00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:32,240
the mission control speak in the background. They're like, just cool, gadgetry, cool,

579
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,920
gadget tree. It's fun, but you're right when he goes

580
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,759
off track and then all of a sudden, the oscillation

581
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,079
overthruster kicks in and you see the kind of laser

582
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,480
beam shootout which softens the rock of the mountain and

583
00:31:43,559 --> 00:31:46,000
allows him to enter into the solid form and into

584
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,240
the space within the mountain. You're like, what, literally, that's it? What?

585
00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:54,079
But man, it's like, Okay, where are we going to

586
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,880
go from here? Yeah? Now it's just trying to catch

587
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,759
up what's going on. Oh, there's one fun thing with

588
00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:02,079
this I wanted to mention during I read this in

589
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:04,880
the trivia during the jet car test, the computer screen

590
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:08,359
has those graphics that show three different words like it's

591
00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:11,079
a progression cuts back to this screen and in the

592
00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:14,839
car it says signed, and then it says sealed, and

593
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,839
then delivered is the third one. Again, weird subtle thing

594
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,039
they put in there for this campy comedy. It's weird.

595
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,759
And then what do you have next for a favorite scene?

596
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:33,079
I've got doctor Emilio Lozardo's flashback again. What you recognize

597
00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:35,960
John Lithgow right away, but he's got this weird makeup

598
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,279
on on these really dirty, messed up teeth and the

599
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,440
kind of spike weird hair going on, and it's just

600
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:47,880
how he actually it's not even it's not even like

601
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,200
a they do this flashback in this weird way. I'm

602
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,039
at a loss for words. It's just so confusing because

603
00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:56,640
he attaches like these electrodes, like with sponges or whatever,

604
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,319
onto his tongue and other things onto his head, and

605
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:03,400
it takes you back in time, like you're going back

606
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,640
in time in his mind, as if he is shocking

607
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,880
himself back into his memory to nineteen thirty eight where

608
00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:15,880
he was part of a failed test of his own

609
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,440
oscillation overthrust that was missing a part and thus entered

610
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:26,519
the eighth dimension but only halfway and got basically beat

611
00:33:26,599 --> 00:33:30,960
up by some red lectroids and possessed by the leader

612
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,440
of the Red lectroids, and that's why he's insane. It's

613
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,599
like a fun sequence just to watch Lithgow being a

614
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,920
mad scientist and rushing through the test, even though Hikeda

615
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,640
is there, the young professor, young version of Hikda is

616
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:50,480
with him, and it's just that cool contraption where it's

617
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:53,839
he's strapped to that car that goes along the tracks

618
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,799
and you know, he's supposed to go inside the wall,

619
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,160
but he actually is thrown off and goes only half way,

620
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,720
and it's kind of scary. Actually, it's really creepy and weird.

621
00:34:03,359 --> 00:34:05,960
It's a fun scene and the GW is just going

622
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,480
for it. He's just going for it. So I had

623
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,760
fun with that. I enjoyed watching that a couple of times.

624
00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't talk about this movie without trying to

625
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,480
do a favorite scene with John Liscow And yeah, yeah,

626
00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:20,800
the flashback one is pretty funny because yeah, he goes

627
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,840
in he's not even normal to begin as a professor,

628
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,239
and then he goes into the eighth or halfway goes

629
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,079
through the eighth in mass and somehow comes out even weirder.

630
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: Yep. And also I liked the when because he's like

631
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,280
in this what is it the Trenton Home for the

632
00:34:35,519 --> 00:34:40,320
Clinically Insane or something like that, and we get to

633
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,639
see Jonathan Banks in this as the nurse, the male

634
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,199
nurse like taking care of him, and it was great

635
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:50,800
to see him. And there's that great line that he

636
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,800
calls it like you would kind of refer to he

637
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,920
says Jonathan Banks as he's walking off, laugh of while

638
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:02,320
you can monkey boy, so a lot of fun in then.

639
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: So scene moment for me that it just made me

640
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,280
laugh out loud is when Buckero gets the message from

641
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,760
the leader of the Black Lectroids and I think that's

642
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,199
John M. Dall and in order to watch the message,

643
00:35:17,199 --> 00:35:23,480
they're basically have bubble rap over their faces with lenses

644
00:35:23,559 --> 00:35:28,280
put in, and they're basically telling Buckeroo, you have to

645
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,199
stop John Wharfin John Lithgow's character, or else we're gonna

646
00:35:32,199 --> 00:35:34,599
blow up your planet because we can't let the red

647
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:35,960
leactoids leave the planet.

648
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:36,519
Speaker 2: Right.

649
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,599
Speaker 1: And in the middle of watching this, another conversation is

650
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:43,840
going on about Ellen Barkin's character Penny. Now they can't

651
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,199
find her. Just in the middle, I don't know because

652
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,880
it's so deadpan, it made me laugh out loud, where

653
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,719
buck Crew says, well, everyone please shut up so I

654
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,679
can hear the rest of this thing. It's not a

655
00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:57,239
funny line, but in the circumstance and just because this

656
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,360
movie is so bizarre and he's wearing bubble rap on

657
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,239
his face, I lost it.

658
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,639
Speaker 2: I think I wrote down that they look like jelly

659
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:11,239
red light masks with goggles attached. Yeah, if you know,

660
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,519
have you seen those red light masks, the red light

661
00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:17,159
therapy masks. Yeah, people were, but this is like the

662
00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:22,159
like that jelly version, and it looks so weird. It's

663
00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:26,079
so rudimentary. And again it looks like kids found stuff

664
00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:28,400
in their backyard and put it together and they're like, okay,

665
00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:30,760
that you put on this mask and now you can

666
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,760
see a hologram. Pretend, pretend like that's the power of this,

667
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,760
that this mask, you know what I mean. Like, it's

668
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,639
just feels like kids playing with toys and that's the way.

669
00:36:39,679 --> 00:36:43,119
And it just looks so cheesy this scene. It's funny

670
00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:46,280
you brought up the interruptions too, because I'm trying to

671
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,519
follow along with the plot this John m Dallas saying,

672
00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:53,320
laying it all out for you, and it keeps cutting

673
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,000
away to missus. Johnson is now entering and asking and

674
00:36:57,039 --> 00:36:59,239
talking about Penny, and I'm like, what, I can't hear.

675
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,920
I can't hear what she's saying. And then Peter Weller

676
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,079
literally says, can you all shut up? So I'm like, yes, please,

677
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:09,000
But you actually miss lines because they're cutting away and

678
00:37:09,039 --> 00:37:12,800
other people are talking, and I'm like, this is already confusing.

679
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,039
Why why are you shooting like that? I love they

680
00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:18,880
brought it up for everybody. That was awesome too. Yep,

681
00:37:19,079 --> 00:37:22,679
good old Uh who was it? John? The other the

682
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:28,000
good the black electroid? Uh? Electoid or electroid? I say

683
00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:31,119
electroid because I think of electrodes or electroids, because right,

684
00:37:31,159 --> 00:37:35,440
that's okay, I've heard you say electoid. That's why that's okay.

685
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:40,000
I'm not uh for a second, maybe I had it wrong. Okay, Yeah,

686
00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:46,880
that's a John Parker, Yes, who also that is a Rastafarian. Yes,

687
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,960
that's what my questions like, Why are all the black

688
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:57,000
electroids actually Jamaicans? What a choice? Yep?

689
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,199
Speaker 1: All right, So of course I had to pick a

690
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,880
John Lycal scene for my favorites, and it is when

691
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:09,039
they kidnap Penny and they're about to torture her and

692
00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:14,320
he calls Bukaroo to try to get the isolator or yeah,

693
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,360
what is it?

694
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,559
Speaker 2: The oscillation overthrust.

695
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,519
Speaker 1: Her, overthrust her and he starts off the call normal

696
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,920
and then just as the scene goes on, he just chewing,

697
00:38:24,159 --> 00:38:26,719
chewing and chewing and chewing, chewing, and then there's a

698
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,639
moment where he takes the phone and gives it to

699
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,280
Penny and Penny starts screaming.

700
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 2: Don't come get me, Buckaroo.

701
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,039
Speaker 1: And of course, weller again just super dry, Penny, get

702
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:46,440
out the phone. Yeah it's great. She is super scared. Yeah,

703
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,719
and he's just like, get out the phone.

704
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,639
Speaker 2: Now. This is making me think if I had watched

705
00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:53,199
this with you or a group, like a group of

706
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,920
guys probably like our buddies, our phone, like, we probably

707
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,800
have a lot lot more fun watching this.

708
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,159
Speaker 1: I agree that one hundred percent, because it's so bizarre,

709
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,400
we'll just all be picking.

710
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:06,519
Speaker 2: Out different things. Yeah. Yeah, but yes.

711
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: Another just scene chewing display by johnath Cowan that oh yeah, yeah,

712
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,000
he's fantastic and it's not even one of his biggest ones,

713
00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:17,840
but I just like that one.

714
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: No, but there's just a whole every little moment is great.

715
00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:23,679
Buck rub being super dry again. Yeah, it's a good call.

716
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,519
That is funny. It's a funny line. All right. So

717
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,920
I think I'm am I up next? Or do you

718
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,599
have one more? Okay, so I'm going straight to the end.

719
00:39:31,639 --> 00:39:34,400
I just have fun with the final action sequence, but

720
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:40,599
especially when the red Electroid ship, the mothership if you will,

721
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,559
has taken off and has failed to go into the

722
00:39:43,559 --> 00:39:45,760
eighth dimension. So they're basically I guess just trying to

723
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,800
fly away and into space, but they're still in our

724
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,559
atmosphere and flying through the sky. And somehow it's some

725
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:58,480
good action here, some cool set design within the ship,

726
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:03,519
the electroid ship, some weird it's just all of it.

727
00:40:03,559 --> 00:40:07,880
There's a lot of detail actually, and fun moment when

728
00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:12,239
we've got Christoph Lloyd as John Big Booty or Bouta.

729
00:40:12,519 --> 00:40:14,800
He keeps getting mad throughout saying boot Te, it's boote,

730
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,440
it's boute And then finally John Wharfin Lithgow, he turns

731
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,159
around shoots him. That's fun and the reason why this

732
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,559
is actually I've chosen as my final favorite scene is

733
00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:31,519
that of course Bukeru Bonzi and John Parker have boarded

734
00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:34,519
the ship and they managed to basically well, they're actually

735
00:40:35,079 --> 00:40:38,840
jettisoned by Lithgow, so now they're in a smaller ship

736
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,639
and they end up using the laser gun to shoot

737
00:40:42,639 --> 00:40:45,480
the main ship and kill John Wharfin finally and those

738
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,360
red lectroids aboard that ship. My favorite moment though, is

739
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,119
now John Parker is going to use this jettison pod

740
00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:56,719
to fly off, and at some point Bukeru Banzai had

741
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,039
ejected from the pond and He's now in a parachute

742
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:06,880
descending and he's waving, waving to John park He's waving

743
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:11,039
to the spaceship as it's taking off, and it's the

744
00:41:11,159 --> 00:41:16,079
cheesiest looking shot, and that made me laugh, if not

745
00:41:16,119 --> 00:41:18,519
out loud, I was definitely laughing on the inside. But

746
00:41:18,639 --> 00:41:21,920
he's dropping in the parachute. Literally, it looks like he's

747
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,800
thirty thousand feet in the air too. By the way,

748
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,360
there's no he could breathe, and he's just dropping in

749
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:31,079
the parachute through the clouds, waving to the spaceship that

750
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:36,280
is taking off. It's it's insane, but it's fun. That

751
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,760
made me laugh too. I could he's basically in the

752
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,960
studio being hung six inches off the ground and it's

753
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,360
probably just rear screen projection of clouds. Yeah. I'm like,

754
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:45,719
oh my.

755
00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:49,159
Speaker 1: God, this looks so bad. This looks so bad. But

756
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,159
the design is so weird. There's one point there in

757
00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:58,960
the escape hut and it's leaking like this milky substance

758
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:02,039
right in. Parker's like, Oh no, no, that's fine, that's normal,

759
00:42:02,199 --> 00:42:06,239
don't worry. It's insulating liquid. Yeah, And I was like,

760
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,480
wait a minute, are they going to be encased in

761
00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:10,679
this is the liquid going to fill the entire ship,

762
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,480
and they're going to be able to be insulated by it,

763
00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:17,920
so they would be able to withstand the shock waves of.

764
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,599
Speaker 2: The or turbulence of the ship or something. But that

765
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,960
number happens, right. I didn't even realize there was in

766
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,719
a ship within the ship, yeah, until I got objected.

767
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,840
How did even how did lift out even know they

768
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,480
were on board either too? I didn't understand that there's

769
00:42:34,519 --> 00:42:35,119
a lot of those.

770
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, this takes us to our Swiss cheese

771
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:42,960
and complaint department.

772
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: And why do we call it Swiss cheese? Because although

773
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,440
this movie is delicious, it does have peggy pretty pant holes.

774
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: Yes, if it doesn't have those piggy candles.

775
00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: Right, is it Penny? I should have said Penny, Sorry,

776
00:42:56,039 --> 00:42:57,679
Penny pretty pant holes? All right?

777
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,039
Speaker 1: If it doesn't have those Penny pretty holes, we just

778
00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:03,000
filed complaint with the complaint department.

779
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,599
Speaker 2: What do you have, Jason, Yeah, well I did choose

780
00:43:06,639 --> 00:43:09,360
Penny pretty pant holes because she's wearing I don't know

781
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,679
what those pants are she's wearing at the end of

782
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,000
the movie, because they're just there.

783
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: It's almost like she wrapped sheets around her somehow.

784
00:43:18,039 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's almost naked, and I'm not complaining, but it's

785
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,400
a weird design choice for the pants. So here's one

786
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:31,280
of my other complaints, obviously, but like bigger complaints. I

787
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,119
was really looking forward to listening to Bacca Robanzi and

788
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:37,800
the Hong Kong Cavaliers perform their music as rock stars.

789
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,840
Only get two minutes of it, not even not even

790
00:43:41,159 --> 00:43:43,159
I don't think he even sings at all with when

791
00:43:43,199 --> 00:43:45,719
they're doing the rock song, then he gets on the piano,

792
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,280
and then I'm not even sure Peter Weller is a

793
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,039
great singer, but then he sings a little bit, So

794
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:54,079
we don't really get to see them do their rock thing.

795
00:43:54,199 --> 00:43:56,320
But it feels like that should have been a big

796
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:01,360
part of this for some reason. Later on with the

797
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,920
Big Booty and his partner, they're torturing Penny with like

798
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,000
ants and honey and they even attempt to drown her,

799
00:44:08,119 --> 00:44:12,480
but it doesn't happen. Like there's a lack of follow through,

800
00:44:12,599 --> 00:44:15,119
is my point. I wanted to see things. You get

801
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,079
led down a certain path, or you are about to

802
00:44:18,119 --> 00:44:22,960
think oh or Bakaru Bonzai, you know. Inside the World

803
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:27,519
Watch one commands traveling Command Center Win a bago, which

804
00:44:27,519 --> 00:44:30,079
is pretty awesome. I love the idea of that. We

805
00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:31,760
know he's supposed to be a martial artist, and we

806
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,800
see him at like the end of the meditation with

807
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,599
his sword and he puts it away, and I'm like, oh,

808
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,639
does he do any martial arts in this at all? No? Right,

809
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:44,440
we're just kind of led on a little bit and

810
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:45,760
then there's no follow through.

811
00:44:46,519 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: I wrote down nothing for Swiss Cheese a complaints departament,

812
00:44:49,559 --> 00:44:54,119
just because this movie is so cheesy. I didn't know

813
00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:56,599
where to begin. I didn't know where to begin. There's

814
00:44:56,679 --> 00:45:00,599
just so much. It's so bizarre and weird. Movie itself

815
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:03,039
is cheesy. It's just it's just a big thing of cheese.

816
00:45:03,559 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just we're led to believes that there's gonna

817
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,239
be all these cool things that are gonna happen, and

818
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,280
a lot of them just don't. So that was a complaint.

819
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,960
I had some really simple other ones. I thought there

820
00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:19,119
would be better security at the Trenton Home for the Clinically, say,

821
00:45:19,519 --> 00:45:23,440
I think Jonathan Banks is literally the only person working there. Yeah,

822
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:28,400
apparently seems like Yeah. Also, Buckeru Bonsai can just get

823
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,440
people out of jail by saying hey let her out.

824
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:36,840
How does that work? He's a world celebrity, it seems Yeah,

825
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,480
oh completely, I was just confused.

826
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: You can't explain it? Yeah, yeah, what what was everyone's role?

827
00:45:44,559 --> 00:45:46,960
Like Rawhide was kind of the right hand man and

828
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,960
mm hmm. But like what does perfect Johnny do or

829
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:51,599
perfect Tommy do?

830
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, perfect Tommy right reno? Yeah? What what are they

831
00:45:55,079 --> 00:45:57,280
supposed to do there? Again? Just supposed to be all

832
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,840
around badasses. They just walk around with they're button down

833
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,199
shirts and jeans and a gun tucked in their pants.

834
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,519
That's what they just do in case something goes Hey,

835
00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:09,639
why are they get called in to take care of it?

836
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,480
And then once in a while they'll be on a

837
00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:15,119
computer analyzing something or doing some kind of tech work

838
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,000
in the world watch one command center in the Winnebago

839
00:46:18,119 --> 00:46:20,119
or whatever. You know. It's like, I don't know, Yeah,

840
00:46:20,159 --> 00:46:21,960
there's nothing in them. And why is why is the

841
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,920
president in traction? Or what happened to him? No idea,

842
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,800
you've recently just had back surgery. I don't know. Yeah, again,

843
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,320
it's a wild choice. Yep, all right, we can move on. Yeah,

844
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:35,840
you just had to go with it.

845
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,679
Speaker 1: That's that's all there is, too you just had to

846
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,519
go with it and pay attention to try to understand

847
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:41,360
what the how the plot is.

848
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 2: That's all. Yeah, yeah, and that's yeah. When I started

849
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,519
watching this and I was taking it seriously, I was like,

850
00:46:46,599 --> 00:46:50,159
oh no, this is a terrible movie. This is after

851
00:46:50,199 --> 00:46:53,840
the jet car sequence. I'm like, this is really bad. Like, oh,

852
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:56,880
it's bad on purpose. I get it. At least we

853
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,000
think it is. I don't know.

854
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:03,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I'm kind of excited about this segment, Jason,

855
00:47:03,199 --> 00:47:05,440
because I really want to know who you picked, because

856
00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:09,199
literally every scene you could pick someone for this, and

857
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,599
we're talking about, Hey, it's that actor. So in this segment,

858
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,239
we spotlight a character actor you have seen in many

859
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,119
other films, an actor making their big screen debut, or

860
00:47:19,159 --> 00:47:22,000
an actor it makes an oncredited cameo. It's hey, it's

861
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,159
an actor. Who do we choose this week?

862
00:47:24,559 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 2: Well? Bill Ban did we choose John David Ashton? Did

863
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:32,719
we choose Jonathan Banks? Did we choose Hm? Who was

864
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:37,119
Dan HYDEA? You could just keep going, but this week

865
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:42,039
we chose for our Hey, it's that actor Yakov Smirnoff.

866
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:47,920
He plays the National security advisor. Uh, love me some

867
00:47:48,039 --> 00:47:53,719
Yakov smeirenof. Yakov was born in Odessa or Ukrainian SSR USSR,

868
00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:57,800
which is now just known as Odessa, Ukraine. He is

869
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,800
an actor, writer, and stand up comedian. I have very

870
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,920
fond memories of watching his stand up as a kid,

871
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,360
when he would perform as a naive Russian immigrant, of

872
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,880
course with a heavy Russian accent, and his trademark line

873
00:48:12,039 --> 00:48:16,679
was what a Country? So talking about the US, here's

874
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,480
his eighties as an actor. He was in Moscow on

875
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,559
the Hudson in eighty four This and Buckle Robonds. I

876
00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:25,960
obviously here in eighty four Brewsters Millions. He plays Vladimir.

877
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,800
That was in eighty five. He's in the Money Pit

878
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,280
plays shut Off. That was in eighty six. Then he

879
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,679
did twenty six episodes of the TV series What a

880
00:48:33,679 --> 00:48:36,119
Country from eighty six to eighty seven. He was in

881
00:48:36,199 --> 00:48:39,440
five episodes of one of your favorite shows, Bill Bent

882
00:48:39,639 --> 00:48:43,840
Night Court. I remember Yakov. Yeah, there you go, Yakov Korolenko.

883
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,239
That was from eighty four to ninety over that time span.

884
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,280
After that, he only acted in a few other projects

885
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,079
based out over the next thirty years, and although in

886
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:55,320
twenty seventeen he was in an episode of Dice starring

887
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,320
Andrew Dice Clay, and I mentioned that only because fun fact,

888
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:03,119
he was once upon a time Andrew Dice Clay's roommate. Now,

889
00:49:03,199 --> 00:49:06,599
I do love Yakov Samirenov in this because as he

890
00:49:06,679 --> 00:49:11,599
is playing the National Security Advisor, he has a line

891
00:49:11,639 --> 00:49:14,159
and he flubbs it and they kept the take in.

892
00:49:14,519 --> 00:49:16,599
It's great. You gotta go watch it because he says

893
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:23,159
Strategic Space Command now reports all surveillance satellite communication is jammed.

894
00:49:23,559 --> 00:49:26,719
He totally messes it up and it's just left in

895
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,599
the movie. Hilarious. I do want to mention this one

896
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:33,360
piece of trivia because I think this is a really

897
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,599
nice thing here. After the September eleven, two thousand and

898
00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:38,719
one attacks on the World Trade Centers, he began working

899
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,320
on a mural to commemorate the event, just in time

900
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,159
for the first anniversary of the event. The mural was

901
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,440
printed on a huge banner with the quote the human

902
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,239
spirit is not measured by the size of the act,

903
00:49:48,679 --> 00:49:50,719
but by the size of the heart. It was hung

904
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,760
from a nearby building where it was clearly visible from

905
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,159
ground zero for over a year. Yakov financed the banner

906
00:49:56,159 --> 00:49:59,199
with one hundred thousand dollars of his own money, but

907
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,039
kept his donate anonymous for fear that people would see

908
00:50:03,039 --> 00:50:05,719
it as a joke because of his reputation as a comedian.

909
00:50:06,199 --> 00:50:09,079
Yakhov'smeir enough or hey, it's that actor this week.

910
00:50:09,679 --> 00:50:12,119
Speaker 1: It is funny because when I was watching that scene,

911
00:50:12,199 --> 00:50:15,480
I was like, Wow, that looks a lot like spair Enough.

912
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,679
I'm like, oh, that can't be and then the credits

913
00:50:18,679 --> 00:50:22,000
are my, holy shit, that was That's hilarious. Yeah, yeah,

914
00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:23,559
I guess there's a whole bunch of people in that scene.

915
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:25,719
I was like, I can't believe that's those people. Well,

916
00:50:26,159 --> 00:50:29,679
and Yakov's sma enough sharing a scene, right, Uh. Time

917
00:50:29,679 --> 00:50:31,480
to move on to facts and trivia. What are some

918
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,079
facts in trivia we have about the adventures of Bakaru

919
00:50:35,159 --> 00:50:37,280
Bonzai across the Eighth Dimension.

920
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 2: Well, let's get into it. There is a scene in

921
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,960
the movie where Reno and New Jersey go through a

922
00:50:43,039 --> 00:50:45,760
room with a watermelon in a machine. Really out of

923
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,119
place for the scene. Reno actually says, I'll explain it later.

924
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,000
But in the Blu Ray audio commentary, filmmakers explained that

925
00:50:53,039 --> 00:50:56,599
they had a confrontational relationship with one of the producers

926
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,400
when they stopped receiving notes from the production, they decided

927
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,960
to put the watermelon in a scene with no mention

928
00:51:03,079 --> 00:51:06,039
about it anywhere on the script. When they received no

929
00:51:06,159 --> 00:51:08,400
questions about it, they deduced that no one was screening

930
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,920
the dailies anymore and they could keep making the film

931
00:51:11,159 --> 00:51:13,440
the way they wanted as long as they remained within

932
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:18,039
the budget. So strange. Yeah, I love it though. So.

933
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:23,079
Speaker 1: Jamie Lee Curtis played buck Ru's mother in a flashback,

934
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:25,760
but the scene was deleted, but the scene is available

935
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,360
on a DVD release as an optional prequel or a

936
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,280
special feature, and Jamie Lee Curtis is visible in a

937
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,320
photo on the dashboard of the jet car in the

938
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,199
wide screen version. Now, the version I saw did have

939
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,079
that opening scene with James Lee Curtis as the mom,

940
00:51:41,519 --> 00:51:44,920
and it's basically a home movie footage of Buckeroo as eight,

941
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:51,480
and it basically shows one of the tests for the oscillator.

942
00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:54,320
Buckeru's dad, I think, is supposed to be the driver

943
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,320
and it was sabotaged. His parents died in an explosion.

944
00:51:58,639 --> 00:52:01,079
Speaker 2: O got it? Yeah, that's cool. You got to see

945
00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:05,000
it though. Yeah. In the film Star Trek First Contact,

946
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,880
the oscillation Overthruster is also on the bulkhead of ZEPHYRM.

947
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:13,480
Cochrane's ship when he William Riker and Jordi LaForge launch

948
00:52:13,559 --> 00:52:16,400
on his ship. It's right there next to Commander Riker's head.

949
00:52:16,519 --> 00:52:19,760
In another Star Trek connection, the quote no matter where

950
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,559
you go, there you are appears on the dedication plaque

951
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:25,119
on the USS Excelsior.

952
00:52:25,519 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: John Lithgalo's dialect coach, Roberto Terminilli, was a tailor on

953
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,599
the twentieth century Fox Lot with a heavy Italian accent.

954
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,960
John had Roberto speak his lines from the script into

955
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,599
a tape recorder, which he then used to practice the accent.

956
00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:44,360
John then got him credit in the movie as a

957
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:45,679
dialect coach for his help.

958
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 2: Love It, Absolutely, Love It. I mentioned that there are

959
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,079
a lot of cool names in this movie. Well. Many

960
00:52:52,159 --> 00:52:55,320
names and terms were taken from Thomas Pinchon's book The

961
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,639
Crying of Lot forty nine, most notably the company name

962
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,119
Yo Yo Dyne. To this day, there is a Yo

963
00:53:02,199 --> 00:53:05,280
Yo Dyning dot com which serves as a fan site

964
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,719
for the film. Yo Yo Dne itself was Pinchon's thinly

965
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:13,199
veiled reference to rocket Dine, a major defense industry contractor

966
00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:16,559
and manufacture of rocket engines, founded just after World War Two.

967
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,559
I went to the website. It's still up, oh nic.

968
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:23,400
It's just a very simple page and you can click

969
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,000
on things that will lead you to Buckero Bonzi stuff,

970
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,559
But it's kind of funny Yoyo dyne dot com.

971
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: When it came time to film the end title sequence

972
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,360
where Buckeru and his friends are walking around a dry

973
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,599
Los Angeles aqueduct and step to the music, the music

974
00:53:38,639 --> 00:53:42,519
wasn't ready, so composer Michael Bottaker told the film crew

975
00:53:42,599 --> 00:53:45,440
to use the song Uptown Girl by Billy Joel as

976
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,079
a placeholder because it was the exact same tempo, and

977
00:53:49,119 --> 00:53:52,039
the scenes were filmed with Uptown Girl blaring from a

978
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:54,639
boonbox tied to the back of the comic truck. And

979
00:53:54,679 --> 00:53:57,639
if you go on YouTube, someone did this. They put

980
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,920
Uptown Girl corusic over the so you could see that, yes,

981
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:02,920
it does work.

982
00:54:03,039 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 2: That's great. Well, this might be why there's a little

983
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,440
bit of confusion happening with just the making of this movie.

984
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,159
The original director of photography of the film is Jordan

985
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:16,639
Cronin with who famously shot Blade Runner. The filmmakers specifically

986
00:54:16,679 --> 00:54:18,599
wanted their film to be rich in color and texture,

987
00:54:18,599 --> 00:54:22,000
for which cronin With was specifically known. However, several weeks

988
00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:26,079
into filming, producer David Begelman had cronin With replaced with

989
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,199
Fred J. Cohne and camp against the wishes of the crew,

990
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,760
including director WD Richter, in order to give the film

991
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,639
its campy, flat visual appearance, which the filmmakers had never

992
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,679
originally intended. Scenes shot by Croninwe still remain in the

993
00:54:41,679 --> 00:54:44,719
final cut, including the famous nightclub scene featuring the line

994
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,480
wherever you go, there you are okay.

995
00:54:46,639 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: Time to move on to box office. So The Adventures

996
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,440
at buck Ru Bonzai Across the Eighth Dimension hit theaters

997
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,800
on August tenth, nineteen eighty four, opening on a whopping

998
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,440
two hundred and thirty six screens stationwide I mean an

999
00:54:59,519 --> 00:55:03,480
estimated budget of seventeen million. The movie went on to

1000
00:55:03,519 --> 00:55:06,519
earn just six point two million at the North American

1001
00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:09,480
box office when it debuted. The movie opened in the

1002
00:55:09,639 --> 00:55:12,800
sixteenth spot at the box office during a crowded summer

1003
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,119
pack with hits such as Ghostbusters, Indiana Jones and Templeo

1004
00:55:16,199 --> 00:55:19,280
Doom and Star Trek three The Search for Spock. By

1005
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,320
the end of its theatrical run, it ranked as the

1006
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:27,239
one hundred and first highest grossing movie of nineteen eighty four.

1007
00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:32,199
Despite its disappointing theatrical run, Bakuru Bonzai slowly found life

1008
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:36,280
on cable TV and home video, then moving on to reviews.

1009
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,800
When growing up in the eighties, we would watch sneak

1010
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,360
previews with Geene Cisco and Roger Ebert to hear their

1011
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,800
reviews and watch clips of upcoming movies. Their review of

1012
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,639
the Adventures of Buckaroo Bonzai Across the Eighth Dimension was split.

1013
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,920
Rogers stated it was bad but never gives up. He

1014
00:55:53,039 --> 00:55:57,079
reluctantly gave it a thumbs down with admiration for its

1015
00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:01,559
flashes of brilliance. Gene enjoyed the film creativity and offbeat

1016
00:56:01,639 --> 00:56:05,360
humor and predicted it would become a cult film. Both

1017
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:10,039
acknowledged that it's bizarre storytelling might confuse mainstream audiences. They

1018
00:56:10,119 --> 00:56:13,800
especially praise the cast, including Peter Weller and John lithgals

1019
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,320
widely over the top performance. Ron Tomatoes gives it a

1020
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,519
meter score of sixty eight percent, with a popcorn Meter

1021
00:56:20,639 --> 00:56:24,360
score of seventy five percent. It also has an IMDb

1022
00:56:24,519 --> 00:56:27,920
rating of six point two, so this takes us to

1023
00:56:28,039 --> 00:56:31,360
additional thoughts and questions. We have any additional thoughts or

1024
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,320
questions about Buckeroo.

1025
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 2: Let's see, we talked about one of your favorite scenes,

1026
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,880
which is with John Mdall. Is that is that correct? Yes,

1027
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:45,360
kind of laying out the whole plot here in a

1028
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:50,320
way and one aspect, and I was just thinking, why

1029
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,639
didn't the Black Lectroids in their spaceship just come down

1030
00:56:54,679 --> 00:56:59,079
to Earth and kill John Warfin themselves? Why charge Buckeroo

1031
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,280
with the tap of taking out Wharfin and then the

1032
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:07,119
whole convoluted plot of the Black Electroids having to attack

1033
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:12,360
Small and Scrussia, thus triggering a nuclear war which would

1034
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,880
take out the Red Electroids. Why didn't they just come

1035
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,880
down and take care of business themselves. They sent John

1036
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,320
Parker down to help Buckeroo bond Zi.

1037
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:27,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly made the movie a little bit shorter. Yeah,

1038
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,079
I don't know. I don't know an answer for that.

1039
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just it just seemed like they were overthinking

1040
00:57:32,719 --> 00:57:34,559
it a little bit and they just kind of put

1041
00:57:34,559 --> 00:57:37,519
it all on Buckeroo Bonsie to save the day, oh.

1042
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: Peaceful race, fear of being discovered. I don't know, I

1043
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,800
don't have a solid answer. But yeah, they should have

1044
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,159
just took out John Wharfin from the get go right, Yeah,

1045
00:57:48,199 --> 00:57:50,800
I mean yeah, I think they could have if they

1046
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,800
wanted to. But it just leads me to another thought

1047
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,159
as well. And I didn't know if this was on

1048
00:57:56,239 --> 00:57:58,920
purpose of some kind of parody or homage if you will,

1049
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:05,599
But John m All talks about having overthrown John Wharfin,

1050
00:58:05,679 --> 00:58:08,760
who was the leader of this warrior cast of the

1051
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:15,159
Black Electroids then or now Red Electroids, and how then

1052
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:21,519
they imprisoned these quote unquote bad electroids in the eighth dimension.

1053
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:27,800
This felt very superman esque to me, very general Zod

1054
00:58:28,039 --> 00:58:31,800
being sent to you know again, leader of a warrior cast,

1055
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,960
kind of being thrown into the phantom zone.

1056
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,159
Speaker 2: Does that makes sense? Yes, I don't know. I just

1057
00:58:37,199 --> 00:58:40,159
saw a direct correlation there. Just yeah, that's interesting, just

1058
00:58:40,199 --> 00:58:40,880
an observation.

1059
00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: Didn't think about that. I just want to know how

1060
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,880
the one group of Red Electroids actually got.

1061
00:58:46,719 --> 00:58:49,719
Speaker 2: Out, So that's that was actually I don't know if

1062
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,920
I should have put that in my complaints because that

1063
00:58:52,119 --> 00:58:57,000
was glossed over supposedly when and I read this either

1064
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,000
au on Wikipedia or IMDb. I don't know. In the

1065
00:58:59,039 --> 00:59:02,599
research somewhere during my favorite scene when we see the

1066
00:59:02,599 --> 00:59:08,000
flashback of at that moment, Emilio Lizardo testing his oscillation

1067
00:59:08,239 --> 00:59:12,480
over Thruster and failing, he manages to break halfway through

1068
00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:17,400
into the eighth dimension, and supposedly that caused the escape. Okay,

1069
00:59:17,719 --> 00:59:20,920
it's never clearly explained in the actual movie. Yeah, I

1070
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,639
guess you just got to put one on one together. Yeah,

1071
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,519
you got to connect a lot of dots somehow in

1072
00:59:25,559 --> 00:59:26,480
this There's.

1073
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,559
Speaker 1: A lot of stuff because I needn't understand. Here's another

1074
00:59:30,599 --> 00:59:32,800
actor we didn't mention because it was a Was it

1075
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,519
Matt Clark who was a defense Secretary of Defense? Is

1076
00:59:36,559 --> 00:59:37,840
he the one from The Incredible Hulk?

1077
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 2: Oh? Is he? I wouldn't know that, probably.

1078
00:59:41,559 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: Okay, because he asks the company to build a fighter

1079
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,920
jet and they're using the the defense money to rebuild

1080
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:55,079
their spaceship right at Yo Yo Dane Propulsion. So is

1081
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,320
he supposed to be a good guy a bad guy?

1082
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,119
Speaker 2: I think is supposed to be a bad guy, right,

1083
01:00:01,159 --> 01:00:03,880
because then he tries to take the oscillation over Thruster

1084
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,159
and put it into the jet car, right because he

1085
01:00:06,199 --> 01:00:07,559
wants himself as a weapon.

1086
01:00:07,639 --> 01:00:12,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, But he's not in cahoots with the let

1087
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:13,599
Troy's because.

1088
01:00:13,519 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: I don't think so. That was just another weird ass

1089
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,840
just thing in this movie, like who is he? Why

1090
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,440
is he there? Why is he in the middle of

1091
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,280
all this? What's the purpose of his character? I love

1092
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,239
when he does manage to get the Hong Kong Cavaliers

1093
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,719
through security and into Yoyo Dane posted by distracting the

1094
01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:33,320
two guards and he's writing there, He's like, I want

1095
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,000
to get I want to get your names. What's your name? John? Yah? Yah?

1096
01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:41,000
What's your name John Smallberries? Yeah?

1097
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: And then you don't notice this giant bust just driving

1098
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:45,840
through the entrance gate.

1099
01:00:46,039 --> 01:00:52,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. A couple other funny things. I just

1100
01:00:52,159 --> 01:00:54,480
wanted to you go ahead, if you have a you

1101
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,920
what are your thoughts? Okay, just a couple of funny things.

1102
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:01,840
When during the that final sequence at Yo Yo Dine,

1103
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,360
they call it the electroid bivowhac area, which is kind

1104
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,000
of oh yes, and where one of the electroids goes

1105
01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:10,400
to sound alarm. Stenciled in bright pink letters on the

1106
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,239
wall to the left of all those electrical circuit boxes

1107
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:18,119
is find the crow shoe missing circuit win a free

1108
01:01:18,199 --> 01:01:21,760
trip to planet ten. And then one of my other

1109
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,119
favorite lines is actually by the general in the room

1110
01:01:25,159 --> 01:01:29,519
with the President and National Security Advisor Security Defense. He says,

1111
01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:33,599
I'm so scared right now. I'm barely holding my fudge.

1112
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,559
All right, something like I'm barely holding my fudge right

1113
01:01:37,559 --> 01:01:40,199
now is what he says. And then the woman yells

1114
01:01:40,199 --> 01:01:42,079
at him, is like, get your shit together or whatever.

1115
01:01:42,119 --> 01:01:45,440
But I couldn't believe that was an actual line.

1116
01:01:45,519 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: Hip all ready to go on to review. Yeah, let's

1117
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,599
do it, okay, on a scale of one to five, Johns,

1118
01:01:54,119 --> 01:01:56,760
what you give I'm gonna say this for the last time,

1119
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,320
the Adventures of Buck ru Bonzai across the eath mention.

1120
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 2: I'm really wavering here because I had a lot of

1121
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,320
laughs just talking about it with you, which means it

1122
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,000
had some real entertainment value. And I did think this

1123
01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:10,800
was a lot of fun. So I'm going to go

1124
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,360
with three point five John's. I was going to give

1125
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,039
it three for a moment there, but I'm going to

1126
01:02:15,159 --> 01:02:18,159
up it to three point five because of its cult status.

1127
01:02:18,239 --> 01:02:20,800
It does have its fans. I'm doing it for Rob

1128
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,639
Huckstad out there, wherever you may be. I hope you're well,

1129
01:02:24,199 --> 01:02:27,639
I think this film was very ambitious and it doesn't

1130
01:02:27,679 --> 01:02:31,239
totally work. Unfortunately, the writing got in the way and

1131
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:35,599
the plot is too convoluted, so it's distracting and that's

1132
01:02:35,719 --> 01:02:39,119
very unfortunate. But if you can take a step back

1133
01:02:39,159 --> 01:02:41,599
and look at it for what it is, this is

1134
01:02:41,639 --> 01:02:44,639
a funny movie. A lot of thought was put into it.

1135
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:49,320
There's some great performances, especially by Lithgow, and it is

1136
01:02:49,519 --> 01:02:54,239
a campy, cheese fest. You just are always asking why

1137
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,679
did they do this? Why did they do that? And

1138
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,719
if you can just let that go and don't care,

1139
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,000
you're going to have a time. I'm going three point five.

1140
01:03:02,039 --> 01:03:03,239
I admire the effort.

1141
01:03:03,599 --> 01:03:06,079
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you three and a half. Quickly,

1142
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,400
here's an actor we did not mention because it was

1143
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,119
one when I saw him on screen was driving me crazy,

1144
01:03:10,239 --> 01:03:12,199
like what have I seen him before? And that was

1145
01:03:12,239 --> 01:03:15,599
Bill Henderson, who was at Casper Linley, who was part

1146
01:03:15,639 --> 01:03:17,440
of the what is it the Blue.

1147
01:03:17,519 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 2: The Blue Blaze Irregulars.

1148
01:03:19,679 --> 01:03:21,559
Speaker 1: And I was like, what have I seen this guy in?

1149
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,360
And he was in City Slickers. He was one of

1150
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,320
the the trails. So I was driving up the wall

1151
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:27,840
and I found out he was a singer too. I

1152
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,519
was like, holy crap, that's really cool three and a

1153
01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:35,719
half for me. Yes, the plot, Holy molly, I've never.

1154
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,599
Speaker 2: Seen anything so confusing in my life.

1155
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: But that cast, bring that cast together, and they just

1156
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,079
looked like they were having fun. Yeah, it's a weird movie.

1157
01:03:46,159 --> 01:03:49,800
I just don't understand how this movie got made. I

1158
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,840
really don't. I think it just blows my mind that

1159
01:03:53,199 --> 01:03:56,039
someone was able to convince someone to put out seventeen

1160
01:03:56,119 --> 01:03:58,159
million dollars, which is a lot of money back then,

1161
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,000
to make this movie with the thought that they were

1162
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going to be sequels. Yeah, but it's still enjoyable. I

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think it's just because it's so.

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Speaker 2: Off the wall. You just have to know.

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Speaker 1: You just have to realize going to this movie's gonna

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be off the wall. It's hard to figure out the plot,

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which hopefully we helped you out talking about this through

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this episode. But just seeing all these people that were

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in this movie, I don't I can't think of another

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movie like this where it just seems like every scene

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I'm like, oh my god, I recognize that person. Oh

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my god, to recognize that person.

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Speaker 2: Sure, it was weird in a way.

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Speaker 1: You wish Hollywood would take a chance on movies like this.

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But it, yeah, definitely needs to be pared down a

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little bit. But the idea itself, I appreciate. The execution

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isn't quite there. I don't know. There's something about this movie.

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I like, I'm not a diehard. But if you told

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me you love this movie, I could see it. If

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you told me this movie sucks and you hate it,

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I can see that too. I couldn't argue with you

1182
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for or against. I'm like, whatever, your opinion of this

1183
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movie is one hundred percent, get it. It's not like

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someone telling me Star Wars is the worst movie ever.

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I'm like, come on, man, you're totally wrong there. Yeah,

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but yes, if you said I hate Buckeru Bonzai, I'm like, okay, yeah,

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I could see it might not be your hupetea.

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Speaker 2: This is just a weird wild ride, and uh I

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look forward to revisiting again down the line. See how

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I feel about it, knowing what I know now, Yeah, you.

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Speaker 1: Had to see if you can find that footage that

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you missed on YouTube. Maybe for sure on there, Jamie

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Lee curnis'd be interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, supposedly the DVD has there's DVD releases that have

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a lot more things added to this that could explain things,

1196
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especially I forget what the final title card was about

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with the the name of the sequel, Oh crap. In

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the original script, Buckeroo was supposed to have an arch

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enemy named Hanoi Zan, who was never seen but reference

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to by Buckeroo and the other characters. All scenes containing

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dialogue regarding Zan were deleted from the film's theatrical release,

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but are now available on DVD. Zen was supposed to

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be the mysterious head of a crime syndicate called the

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World Crime League, and also the man who murdered Buckeroo's

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01:06:06,039 --> 01:06:08,559
parents and wife Peggy, which we do see in that

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opening scene that you missed. So that explains that, and

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then explains why the sequel is called The Adventures of

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bucker Rebounds, I think, and versus something that we're fighting

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01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,280
versus the World Crime League or whatever. Yeah, that explains that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, with that, that wraps up this week's episode.

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in the eighth dimension. We are over a new Jersey.

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Hope is not lost. Thanks for staying up with us.

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Speaker 2: Good Night,