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Speaker 1: Well, it is my pleasure to be joined for the

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very first time, I first interview ever with the w

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with the IBF and the lineal Cruiserweight World campion, Tai

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opday At Tai, Welcome to the show. We're gonna talk

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about your fight that's coming up on March eighth. First

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of all, welcome. You know you're in Las Vegas getting

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ready for the fight training. How's everything going.

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Speaker 2: It's going really well, man. I'm I'm happy to be here.

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You know, we've been trying very hard. I'm just ready

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to get this fought done. You know what I mean.

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It's it's been dragging on the wall, and now you know,

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I've been away from home for about six weeks now

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of another fucking two weeks. He's let's get this shit done. Man,

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I'm ready to go to work.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're gonna go to work. I'll tell the people

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what the work is. You're gonna defend the title against

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Brandon Glanton. It'll be the main event of the Zoofa

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Boxing card on Paramount Plus March eighth at the Meta

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Apex in Las Vegas. And this is obviously your first

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fight since signing with zoof I think you and ZUFAU

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create a lot of interest when they announced you became.

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I mean they had signed obviously several talented fighters, but

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you were the first, like really top quality elite world

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champion that they had signed, uh an established title holder

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champion when they made that announcement, so people were sort

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of excited, like here the cruiserweight champs coming to America

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to do his thing. And so I was curious. This

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was an announcement that was made in January when you

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made the deal with them. It is my understanding that yes,

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you're going to be a ZOOPA fighter, but you have

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your your team in Australia, Tasman Fighters that is still

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your co promoter. And I wonder how did the deal

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come about and what was your motivation for signing with ZUFA.

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Speaker 2: Um it just fit perfect, you know.

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Speaker 1: Other than other than money, of course, John.

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Speaker 2: The money's the money's the bonus. You know, will he

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Tyston dreams and will he to keep going? You know

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the money would have come anyways, you know what I mean,

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Will Tyson undisputed and when you become undisputed you get

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paid anyways. But this is just sped that process up,

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you know what I mean. And to be honest, man,

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off the mic decision. I'm happy I've made it, you know,

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like you know, obviously the contract was good and that's

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why we signed. But you know, being here and being

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around the people and seeing who I'm working with now

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and and seeing the way they move, it's it's been good,

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you know. It's it's it's refreshing, you know what I mean.

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It's something new, and I feel like news is good

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as well, you know what I mean. A lot of

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people have been bad mouthing it, but it's been turning

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out really well. You know, like people can't sit there

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and say the boxing wasn't a fucking you know, you

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always looking especially as a fighter, but you're always looking

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over your shoulder, you know, who can you trust and who?

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But this is this has been pretty straightforward, you know

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what I mean. I feel like there's no hidden agendas here.

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You know, they tell you what they want from me,

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and this is this is my this is my experience

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so far anyways, you know what I mean. So it's

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all it's all been well. But to go back to

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your question how it started, So we were dealing with issues.

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You know, you got a fair bit to do with

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the Zoo for boxing. He was talking to my team,

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you know, and once my team sort of realized that

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he meant business and he was being serious about his

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offers and stuff, then.

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Speaker 1: We again, I miss who you said you were talking to.

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Speaker 2: His name's Ish, Oh, I know, yeah from uh yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I go way back with this, back in our days.

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He was my representation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Nice. Everyone ever was speaking to you says they

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go way back with this, So he must be a

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nice guy, you know what I mean. But so so far, bro,

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everything's been good. You know, I'm you know, Ish flew

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out to Gold Coast. We had to sit down, and

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you know, everything just was was what we were looking for,

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you know what I mean, getting on big cards and

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and and doing big fights and getting these stuffs over

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the line and stuff like that. So it's it was

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just perfect.

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Speaker 1: So one of the things that was interesting, I think

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the reason besides obviously you being a top world champion

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and becoming the first one to go with them, the

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thing that sort of I heard a lot from fans

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and other people in the business was because Dana White

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from ZUFA Boxing has not been shy about what he

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wants to do. He has said and certainly it's the

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prerogative of the company to not work with the sanctioning bodies.

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That's what they've said all along. I interviewed Danta when

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they first announced this project, and he said, yeah, we

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don't want to work with the organizations, okay, and they're

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going to have their own belt. And this fight, of course,

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when you fight Brandon Glan is going to be for

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the first ever a ZUFA cruiser with that of the

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first of their titles in any way class. And I

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know you've made no secret about your desires. You just

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said it just now that you want to be evolved

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in unification fights and become eventually the undisputed cruiserweight champion.

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It is my understanding. You can tell me if I

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am wrong that you are allowed to defend your IBF title,

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even though that's not the course that ZUFA maybe wants

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to go in, that you'll be permitted to pursue unifications

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with the other sanctioning bodies if those come to pass.

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Can you tell me how how is that correct? And

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how did you how are you a going to get that

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part of the deal done.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't really want to go back on

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you know what what Dana said, you know, he you know,

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I'm not sort of heater, you know he's wrong or

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right or whatever. I can only speak for my own

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my own experiences. You know. They told me, you know,

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undisputed was in our goals, you know what I mean.

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They said that we're going to have unification fights. Obviously

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we have to keep winning, you know, we have to

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take care of business on March eighth, But unification fights

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was in the talks, you know, and it was a

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big selling point to why I why I signed, you

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know what I mean, because you know, otherwise, what are

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we doing as world champions? You know what I mean?

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We should be chasing undisputed all the fighters, all these

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other world champions. Once they get their world titled, then

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it should be the what's the next world title? I

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can get what's in and then they should be chasing undisputed. Otherwise,

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what are they doing?

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Speaker 1: You are considered Dutch champion, you were the lineal champion

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on the ring title. You have the IBF title, you're

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gonna get, you know, a chance to fight for the

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ZUFA title. Will you be defending your IBF title in

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this fight? I know they don't want to make that

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part of the promotion. I don't have a problem with that,

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but I'm from just a factual point of view. Is

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that on the line against Clanton?

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it is, you know I was. I

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went to the fights, you know, the the Guarcia fight

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on the weekend. I actually spoke to the I told him,

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you know, like, we're we want to fight for the IBF.

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You know, I want to work with these guys, you

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know what I mean. There's all this outside stuff, all

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this all this you know who's arguing with who. That's

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not the fighters, that's not That's not me, you know

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what I mean. I'm the one fighting. So I'm here

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to say, Look, I'm I want to be undisputed, and

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I can't do that if the boys don't see the

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same goal as me, you know what I mean. These

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sanctity bodies don't don't see the same and they're not

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willing to sort of see the that I'll have, you

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know what I mean. Like it's I feel like they

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sort of losing track of you know who, who's in

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charge of this and that? But who cares? Look, we

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want the big foughts over the lawn, you know, you

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want to fucking see undisputed boxes. You know, it's uh,

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it's well to my knowledge and what I'm what I

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know is the IRBF is on the line.

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Speaker 1: So okay, So let's get to the fight a little bit.

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As far as where you're fighting the fight, this will

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be your first time ever fighting in the United States

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in Las Vegas. On top of that, of course in

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this country, the biggest fight city that there is uh

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history of great fights throughout the years, and I wonder

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how how big for you as a young fighter and

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now as a champion, was it ever your goal? Where

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your dream to fight a championship level fight in the

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United States?

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Speaker 2: You know it's uh, I feel like that. I've been

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fighting my whole life, you know what I mean. I've

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been watching I've been watching the best of the best

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fight here in Vegas my whole life since I was

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a little boy, you know what I mean. It's always

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been it's always been down the track, you know, like

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one one day, one day and even this one. You

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know it might not be the biggest arena, but this

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is a stepping stone. These are these are these are

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to me. I look at things like this like fighting

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in these their investments you're gonna box.

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Speaker 1: What you're doing right, You're checking exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's investing. It's it's you know, like investing isn't always money,

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Investing time and effort and and and you know, and

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fights and doing this so we can get here. These

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these are these are investments in my in my in

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my career that are that are important, you know what

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I mean. Like I get to fight here in Vegas

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and then be a part of you know, this new

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chapter a zoo for boxing and be the biggest name

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in there so far, you know, one of the first assigns.

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So you know, it's it's all just stepping stones man two.

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And I'm very confident that in a year or so

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I'll be able to call myself on disputed cruiseweight champion

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of the World.

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Speaker 1: Well, Brandon Glan, Brandon Glanton is going to try to

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ruin those hopes and dreams for sure as your opponent

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in this fight. About a year ago, he lost a

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decision to the former WO cruiserweight champion Chris Billum Smith.

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He came back in October and he scored a six

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round knockout against a longtime light heavyweight contender, former title

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challenger in Marcus Brown, who was a United States Olympian.

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He was coming off of a twenty six month playoff. What,

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in your opinion, whatever you've seen of Brandon Glann. I

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saw your interview on where you were together on one

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of the Paramount plus cards. What do you believe he

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brings to the table to challenge you in some manner

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in this fight.

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Speaker 2: He's tough, but he's tough, he's gritty, and he wants

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to win. You know, he's got no he's got a

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fucking big engine. He CA's walking forward and he's just

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ready to have a crack, you know what I mean.

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He's dangerous to hold for you know, so you go

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to be switched on. You've got to be ready to

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fucking get in the trenches, you know when we are

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so we's box smart. We do our thing and you

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just make him walk on the ship. But you're just

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gonna fucking do what we do. And that's the science

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of the sport. You know. Our skill levels is completely different,

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you know. But he's he's big, he's strong. You know,

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it doesn't take a fucking rocket sciences to see with

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our styles and how this fight matches up.

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Speaker 1: Well, I happen to think that it's going to be

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as the as they say a cracker. I mean, just

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knowing the way because I've seen both of you guys

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fight plenty of times. Going to be a good fight,

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how long it goes who that knows? I mean, you

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are known for your knockout power. We've seen what you've

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done in some of your recent fights. Do you feel

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like you can deliver that kind of spectacular knockout against Lanton?

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Speaker 2: I believe I can knock anyone out if I learn

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the right punch. You know, it's at the timing speed,

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you know, it's it is what it is. And we're

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big boys, you know what I mean. We're not fucking lightweights.

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You know, we're we both punched on you know. So

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it's it's an exciting thought.

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Speaker 1: Since your your win in the rematch you had with

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Myris Bradis, who was, you know, considered one of the

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top fighters out there. You won the title from him

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the first time you became champion. You fought him a

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second time in twenty twenty four. You've had four fights

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since then. You've won them all by knockout, some quite

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spectacular as I mentioned, Uh, but they've not been the

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biggest names, Jack Massey, David Nyika, Henry Squayo, Hussein Sinkara

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spectacular knockout. So they're obviously, you know, veteran professional fighters.

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Nika was an Olympian, but not necessarily big name opponents.

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Was there any sort of frustration that you couldn't get

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a bigger, more well known opponent in those past four fights?

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Speaker 2: Of course, you know, we were chasing these These are

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guys good fought us, you know, like like you said,

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we go to European champions and MASSI, we go to

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you know, silver silver medalists at the Olympics in you know, Naika,

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you know, I feel like they just they're just unknown,

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you know.

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Speaker 1: People get the respect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well but yeah, of course, you know,

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we've been chasing these unification fights for for a long

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time now, you know, and it's been frustrating, but honestly,

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but it's all in the past. You know, we've got

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a job to do on the eighth. We are focused

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on the eighth, you know, like we're talking about a

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lot of things, but my main focus. And while I'm

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here the last couple of weeks, I've been away from

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home for fucking six weeks now, you know, what I mean.

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I've been making all the pain and sacrifices. I've been

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in the trenches, and that is for March eighth. So

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unless I take care of business on March eighth, none

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of this matters. Unifications, all this stuff, it means nothing.

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March eighth. I need to win.

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Speaker 1: I do want to ask you about Zerdo Ramirez. He

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is the unified champion with the WBO and the WBA titles.

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I know your teams have spoken to one another about

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trying to make that fight a couple of times. Uh,

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I know you guys are gained four it. He decided

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that he was gonna go in the direction of the

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David Dennavide's fight, which is not necessarily a fight with Jobatia,

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but David has a very good name here in America. Uh,

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probably a bigger fight commercially, to be quite honest. Video

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so they're doing that. They had a news conference on

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Saturday in Las Vegas, on the day of the Garcia

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and Barrios fight, sort of talk to me about just

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your inability to get that deal done and if and

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again any frustrations for knowing that the conversations were taking place.

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But you guys just couldn't get it. As they say

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over the line.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there was much conversation, to be honest,

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I feel like we fucking wanted the fought, and I said, no,

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you know what I mean. So it is what it is.

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You know. The well for I'll gotta take care of

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business on the iph and I'll go night. Doubt that

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fat will come, you know what I mean. We just

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got to keep winning, keep focusing on our job.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: We gotta sure we deliver every time we step in

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the ring, and then we just get closer and closer

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to getting these thoughts out of the line.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that was quite interesting is you did

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the interview, as I mentioned on Paramount Plus, when they

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entered to as having signed with them, and then they've

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they posed you with a WBC champion in Noel McKellen.

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There was a lot of conjecture, a lot of speculation

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that when you did have your fight announced. Uh, this

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was before they announced Lanton as your challenger, that maybe

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you would be in a unification fight against Noel mckellian. Uh,

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that seems to be a fight that could be available.

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He doesn't have anything particular coming up. I just mentioned

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that Benevide's and Zerta were doing their thing. If you're

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successful against Brandon Land, is that the fight that you

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would target next to try to unify at least those

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two titles.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, you know, one night around June where like midyear,

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where when they're fighting Betavidaz and Zerta, you know what

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I mean, when we should be fighting around that time,

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and then we can fight at the end of the

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year for unification. It's perfect.

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Speaker 1: But that a great schedule.

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Speaker 2: It's fucking it is perfect. That is more. That is

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more golf, that's per it's undisputed by the end of

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the year, and then whatever happens after that. But let's

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go you know what I mean by up man, we

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there's obviously a little moving parts for a plan on

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that to happen, you know, and they over the line up.

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So and at the end of the day, all I've

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got to do is keep winning. You know, I've got

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a job to do on the ice. So let's not

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get keep talking about all these other thoughts. And they

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all sound good coming out of my mouth. But unless

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I take care of business, if of March, it is

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all imagination. It's all just talk, and it sounds good,

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but we've got to fucking hard test on March if so,

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I don't want to lose shrak.

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Speaker 1: Of Okay, I just I want to wrap up in

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just one more thing. This goes beyond cruiserweight and top

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the possibility of unifying or becoming undisputed, whether that happens

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or it doesn't happen. I know you've mentioned in the past,

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your people have mentioned in the past, but eventually you

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will be fighting in the heavyweight division. I don't think

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there's been a top cruiser weight since the weight class

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has been created that hasn't at least at one point

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tried their hand in the heavyweight division. How much is

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that in your in the back of your mind. I know,

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like you said, you got March eight, and you got

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other things you want to still accomplish as a cruiser weight,

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But the lure of the heavyweight uh division? Where does

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that kind of fit on your on your to do list?

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Speaker 2: It's a chapter after undisputed. You know, I'm not losing

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truck of what I want, you know, And I'll keep talking.

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If I keep saying heavyweight, heavyweight by people get excited

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and then you know everyone's fucking I just do it

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now by a shot up. You know, this is my life.

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And when when Walker is done and when I look

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back at it, I want to be proud of it.

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You know. I want to I want to say I

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did what I wanted to do, you know what I mean?

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So undisputed first and then come talk to me about heavyweight.

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Speaker 1: How times like a good plan First up, though, as

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you've said many times, Martine, your main event against Brandon

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gleann on Paramount Plus. I'm the supperboxing card guy. It's

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been a real pleasure to talk to you today. I

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appreciate your time. I wish you're good luck in your

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fighting and pursuing your your goals and dreams.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate your time. Dad, Thank you Jack.

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Good luck for your point