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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome in everyone.

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Speaker 2: It is Monday, though it doesn't feel like a Monday

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with daytime basketball and all these games today.

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Speaker 1: But it's time for full court Press.

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Speaker 2: I'm joined by my host, co host Rob Vino, and

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we're here to talk hoops. It's gonna be a I

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believe a little bit of an abbreviated show week for us, Rob,

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because the basketball takes a break finally over the Christmas holiday,

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they did away with the Diamond Head Classic, which is

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a little bit sad. I liked those random couple of

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Christmas Day basketball games, but it looks like we've done

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away with that. So I believe it's today and tomorrow

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and then we won't see you guys until next week

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because there's no games. So we got to make it

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a great show the next two days. And Rob, I

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know you're thrilled about this. Today, the feature game I

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dressed for the occasion is your Missouri Tigers, and they've

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got a big one out in Saint Louis this afternoon

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against the ill this evening, I believe, against Illinois, So uh,

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talk to me, is this this is some sort.

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Speaker 1: Of a rivalry? Is there a name for this one?

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Speaker 3: Rob?

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Speaker 1: I forget. I feel like it's a rivalry of some sort.

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Speaker 3: It's a rivalry of sorts. I will say this, A

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significant amount of the student body at MISSOO goes there

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from Chicago, UH and surrounding areas, which makes this it's

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kind of a border state. It is a border state, actually,

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and a lot of kids commute from the Illinois state

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of Illinois and especially the Chicago area, so it makes

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for a pretty decent rivalry. It's nowhere I found it.

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They call it bragging Rights. I knew it had a name. Oh,

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they said, yes, it's you know what. It's written right

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in front of me too, and it's I mean, it's

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not the border War, let's put it that way. It's

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not ku, but it is significant to both. They played

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this one every year, and so here we get it

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in Saint Louis a neutral If you ever traveling I

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seventy to Columbia, Missouri, you'll find that Saint Louis is

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kind of a neutral spot between Champagne and Como. What

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I found interesting here Adam and boy the money got

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to it quickly. But let's add some coaches to our

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list of coaches who have no problem sharing their feelings

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about their team status. Right now, let's just start with

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Brad Underwood. These quotes are priceless. This is after they

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had just lost and barely lost to Nebraska eighty three

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to eighty. But what Brad Underwoold had to say about

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his team, you look at our front line and there's nothing.

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You get a horrendous stat line from everybody that played

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no rebounds. I mean, there's nothing there that's on me,

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that's in practice, that's getting more from them. What I

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didn't like was our approach to guarding Nebraska. It's a

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mental tenacity, it's a toughness, it's a grit. We've had

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that we at Tennessee. We actually had it through most

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of the Ohio State game, which they actually won that one.

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But he's not thrilled, and he actually in practice this

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week worked Illinois very very hard on the defensive aspect

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of the game. Kylin Boswell, point guard, added to it, saying,

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sometimes we're immature. Comes with being young. It's difficult at times,

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and in basketball terms, Adam, I'm glad he put it

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this way because a lot of times guys don't understand

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or betters don't understand what bad defense really consists of

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Kylin Boswell. We've had a lot of misswitches because we're

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not talking in transition. We talked about it all week.

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Don't run to the paint, and this is the difference

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in basketball now. Right on a fast break transition, don't

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defensively run to the paint, run to the three point

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line where mazoo. For what it's worth, Dennis Gates, still

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figuring out his lineup, added Jacob Cruz to the starting

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lineup fifth fifty three percent from three. Jacob Cruz, I mean,

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he was great last year, he's been even better this year.

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Part of the starting lineup. Using that to help stretch

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defenses and give Mark Mitchell a little more room to rome.

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So the spacing is better for Missou. But the head coach,

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Tennis Gates of Missouri, was not happy with his defense either.

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I mean, Gates all weekend long preached defense. I bring

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both of these coaches up and what they're looking at,

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what they're focused on this game, because the total open

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one fifty nine and went down to one fifty four

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and a half. If you got there at the opener, congratulations.

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If you get there now, I still think you might

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have a little bit of room in this particular game.

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You look at both of these teams and say, seventy

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seven a side still doesn't quite get you there. You

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need a seventy eight to seventy seven game. Very possible,

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But I think the way these coaches are wired here

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and what they have their teams focused on, perhaps an

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under could be a decent play. Sidewise, Adam, I'm not

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sure you know. I like them both. I think Missouri

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has been flawed at times. We know Illinois has been

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flawed at times, and this is really a kind of

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a where are we now? The type of game heading

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into conference season, I think they'll both get a really

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good idea of where they're at. I happen to believe

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Illinois is the more talented team, for sure, man for man.

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If I had to choose rosters, I'd probably pick Illinois's roster,

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But certainly Miszoo has the capability and at times they

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both have the tenacity. My look here early would have

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been under at this point. Maybe still a little bit

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of an under. And as for a side, I'm gonna

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let you have at it because I really don't have

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a good indication of which side I'd rather be on here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm almost always going to come up here

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and talk about the side, and this was the one

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scenario that I kind of have more of a total's

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opinion than the side opinion, but very in line with

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your opinion.

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Speaker 1: I think under makes sense.

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Speaker 2: So something I read this morning that was interesting to

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me because I've I've watched this other team play quite

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a bit is that the only zone that Illinois saw

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all year was Colgate and so that that, you know,

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caught my eye quickly because I watch a lot of

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Colgate basketball, and when I went to the Colgate Sianna

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game earlier this year, my big takeaway from that game,

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which I talked about on the show, but my big

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takeaway from that game was Colgate's one three one zone

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and how athletic and quick and good it looked against

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Sianna because Colgate doesn't have that big, plotting six' Ten

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shrek looking center that they had the last couple of

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years slowing everything down, right so they were able to

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play this super athletic one three one. Zone they stretched

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pressure a little, bit and that's the only Zone illinois

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saw this. Year per Per i'd have to fact check,

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it but that was, it and they didn't They illinois.

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Didn't PL i don't have the final score of that

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game in front of, you BUT i don't, think going

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off of, MEMORY i don't Think illinois had like their

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best game Against.

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Speaker 1: Colgate and so.

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Speaker 2: That THAT'S i guess in line with sort of your

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you're looking at the under IS i Think Missouri gates

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is obviously gonna play some, zone can can maybe slow

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Speaker 1: Bit but like WHY i don't have a huge opinion.

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Speaker 2: On the side rob is you, know even though unders

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sort of tend to correlate to, underdogs, right so you,

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know AND i wore My MISSOURI uh, sweatshirt and if

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you forced me into like a, LEAN i would probably

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lean that. Way and as this gets, Bet i'm even

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more inclined to lean that way because of course open

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eight now you're up to nine and a half some,

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i'm definitely inclined to lean the. Underdog but my concern

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IS missoo isn't gonna do a ton Against illinois, either

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and so that puts more more put me on the

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under then it does decide Because i'm worried About missouri

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getting good looks in this game as. Well And i'm

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kind of still like on The illinois bandwagon a little,

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bit thinking that they could. Be LIKE i don't think

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they get talked about like some of these, other like

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big name top twenty five teams. Do but they're kind

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of the one, team one of a couple of teams

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rob THAT i think maybe doesn't get the hype that they.

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Deserve you, know went down To nashville earlier this, year

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Destroyed tennessee their best. RESULT i feel Like i'm leaving

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out one really Good illinois. Result, oh they Beat Texas,

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tech and, yeah those are probably the best result was

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probably Beating Texas. Tech they hung around With. ALABAMA i

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still Think illinois could be really. Good SO i Think

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i'm more with. You i'm looking at the under instead

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of the.

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Speaker 3: Side. Yeah AND i, mean if you just rewind our

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show back like three weeks ago to That Illinois Texas tech,

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GAME i think the three of US bp included at the,

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time we Had illinois and a lot higher status than

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they sit right. Now and that's because of their results

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from that point to this. Point they've kind of lost

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a little bit of luster in people's power ratings in people's,

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minds et, cetera et. Cetera but they do you, know

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they were injured a little bit at that, Time, Adam

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let's Give illinois a little bit of. Credit they've needed

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some time to get cohesive with all their, bodies their

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main key players in the, rotation all on the court at.

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ONCE i too, think you, know they Have elite eight caliber.

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Ability what they do here Against missoo remains to be.

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Seen AND i will point, out you, Know illinois is

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Not kansas, Defensively, Eric, yeah they're Not kansas, Defensively But

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miszoo did have their struggles Against. Ku sixty points was

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all they could score Against kansas in that, game got

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blown out by. Twenty so against elite competition hasn't looked

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great thus. Far miszoo hasn't played a ton of elite

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competitions so far this.

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Speaker 1: Season, YEAH i, Think I'M i think we're kind of in.

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Speaker 2: Agreement if IF i had to give out a pick

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on that, game it would be clearly be the under

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so and you, Agree So i'm kind of comfortable leaving

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that one. There, uh let's do this one and then

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we'll go To we'll go To garth. Next just BECAUSE

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i was that this would have been very bold of

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me to make this the FEATURE i thought about, it

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BUT i. COULDN'T i couldn't DISRESPECT i couldn't Disrespect Illinois

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maszoo like. That but My Sienna saints rob head To,

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Bloomington indiana, Today now they're a twenty three point.

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Speaker 1: UNDERDOG i would hardly say that that's a feature.

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Speaker 2: Game but you, know there's not many big name top

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twenty five teams playing.

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Speaker 1: Today and you, Know i'll point this.

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Speaker 2: Out, sienna it doesn't play these games very, often so

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they're in they're in a very unique position as a

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mid major where they don't need to play a ton

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of like buy. Games, uh they crush THE mac at

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attendance every single. Year so like you look at that,

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conference most of THOSE mac schools get to get maybe

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two thousand a, game twenty five, hundred you, know twenty five.

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HUNDRED i don't even Think canisius holds more than two,

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thousand right like some of those some of those other schools.

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Speaker 1: Maybe nine, hundred eleven.

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Speaker 2: Hundred and then obviously LIKE i own to get some

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People Fairfield Beautiful New, arena they they are getting fans

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there like a bad night For sianna down AT Mvp

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arena is forty five hundred five thousand a good night's

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like eight, thousand so relative to the rest of their, League,

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like they have no problem paying the, bills, right they

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don't need to schedule these like NON d one. Opponents

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they never play A d two, school and they very

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rarely go and play like go and play like the paycheck.

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Game because you know these these types of games like

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Speaker 1: WELL i. DON'T i. Don't, yes like one or two

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of them may.

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Speaker 2: Help but if you're like A, SIENNA i think you'd

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much rather Play Colgate, vermont like the top teams from

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the other leagues that are like in like the other good,

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you don't necessarily want to like go on the road

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as a thirty point underdog and like Play indiana like

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you gain less from that. Game but it's a necessity

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for some, schools not so Much. Sienna that's why you

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don't see many of. THESE i can't remember the last,

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time a couple of years, BACK i think played on

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the road At. KANSAS i, KNOW i Know georgetown was

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LIKE i guess supposed to be a big name, team

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but that was When georgetown was really. Bad So i'll

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bring that up Because sianna goes To bloomington, today the

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twenty two point, underdog was up to twenty, four got

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hit back down to twenty. TWO i have mixed feelings just,

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because like off of, MEMORY i Know sianna typically doesn't

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do well in these types of, games just going off

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of like historic like back to like WHEN i was,

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THERE i don't ever remember with the exception of Playing

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kansas At Allen Field house close one.

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Speaker 1: Time us doing well in these types of.

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Speaker 2: Games now you can look and they played well in

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That thanksgiving tournament one year and knocked off some big.

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Speaker 1: Names but that's. Different that's on a.

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Speaker 2: Neutral on the other, hand it's an awful lot of

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point tray A sianna team THAT i think is going

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to win THE mac this. Year rob and matches up

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kind of not too bad With, indiana so intriguing game.

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Here i'm extremely. BIASED i Think sianna's gonna go out

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and play great. Tonight they got rut out By. Vermont

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McNamara was, Like, hey that's what you guys need to

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strive to. Be he was you want to talk about

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postgame cop the like. Quote he straight up, Said, hey,

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guys that's you want you want to Be.

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Speaker 1: Vermont that is a good basketball.

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Speaker 2: Team they're they every single, year they're at the top

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of their, league and they just straight up beat us,

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Tonight like that's. It there's nothing else to. Say we

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got beat by a better. TEAM i Think sianna responds

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to that a little. Bit And i'm curious to see

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your take on this. One and we've got people disagreeing

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with me in the, chat so this should be a great.

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Speaker 3: Conversation, WELL i think if you're pointing Towards, sienna that's

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exactly where you, point, right you point toward the motivational

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level in this. Game sienna's off a bad. Loss coaches,

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LOVE i don't want to say they love, losing but

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they love to be able to coach off of a.

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Loss just pointed out two coaches now With illinois And.

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Missouri you know those coaches love that when they can

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go to practice and they can you, know scold their

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team so to, speak and let them know that these

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are areas we need to. Work And sienna's in that.

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Spot indiana's in the spot where how interested are we

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in this? Game, basically we've opened up the Season january the,

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fourth The Big ten season Against, washington come off of

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a game Against Chicago state where they kind of got you,

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KNOW i mean after The kentucky. Loss was that the

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game that they were rapped up to. Play probably let's

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get back on the floor and let's destroy. Somebody they

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didn't exactly do, it but the motivational aspect would seem

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to lie In sienna's corner in this particular. Game, however

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the problem you run into is If indiana does want

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to play because they don't have another game for twelve

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days and maybe Coach davariz wants to get them in

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tip top form heading into the conference, season then they

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do Everything sienna. Does Everything sianna does well at a higher.

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Level And sienna's a good tempo. Team indiana's a better tempo.

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Team indiana's a better shooting. Team indiana has a better rebounding,

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Team indiana is a better defensive. Team all the assets

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That sienna has to make them a quality team at

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this point at their, Level indiana does much better And

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indiana shoots the three way way better Than sienna, does

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so that's your. Concern If indiana comes to, play, fundamentally we're.

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Better we got the home court In. Bloomington how Does sianna,

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react et, cetera et. Cetera is it worth twenty two?

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Points twenty two and a half. Points i'm not so.

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Sure it could be the Way indiana results have gone this.

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Year AND i just want to credit real quick BEFORE

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i turn it over to. You adam on the job

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That Darien deriza has done so far this year With

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indiana walk in through his first real big TIME i

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get That West virginia is a big twelve School power,

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five But indiana is an elite job due to the

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historical performance of this. Team and what he's done is

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he's taken the. Talent we talked about it a little

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bit with a couple other, Coaches but he's not trying

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to fit the square peg into the round. Hole yes

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he's brought his. System, Yes indiana is a little bit.

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Slower yes they're really good on the defensive. End but

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when you look at their, tempo it's Not drake. Tempo

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it's not last Year West virginia. Temple he looks at the,

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talent he sees he can run a little. Bit with these,

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guys you got to let him out of the cage

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a little bit so they can perform up to their.

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Capabilities and average possession length is on the high side

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of average FOR Ncaa Division one, teams and the possession

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length is about middle of the. Roads so they're playing

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a little bit. Quicker he's taken advantage of what he.

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HAS i looked At under in this game and got

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scared off it BECAUSE i, thought you, know how Is

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sienna gonna come up with enough points in this? Game

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and If indiana's If sienna is motivated and plays decent,

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defense they could Catch indiana off. Guard one for three

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and a. Half tough number to Bet under. With but

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IF i had To, ADAM i THINK i would lean that.

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WAY i think this could be a little bit lower.

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Speaker 1: Score, Yeah I'm i'm GONNA i agree with.

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Speaker 2: You and AS i listened to you talk AND i

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watched the market, here so This i'm a little bit

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upset with.

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Speaker 1: Myself this clearly got faked.

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Speaker 2: Up and there was a few minutes PROBABLY i don't,

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know right before we got on this show WHERE i

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could have had twenty four With. Sienna that's where that's

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where it got bet up from twenty two at the

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open to twenty. Four it's back down to twenty two

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and a. Half i'm gonna USE cna plus twenty two

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and a half for the parley just BECAUSE i feel

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LIKE i don't know IF i can give it to

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clients at that current number WHEN i could have had twenty.

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Four BUT i like it enough to have some sort

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of action on it as far as you're under is.

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Concerned so couple things here and Then, TREVOR i want

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TO i want to respond to your comment in the

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chat BECAUSE i think you make some good, points BUT

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i have some counterpoints. There Riley mulvey is now. Back

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so that is the seven footer That sienna got From.

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Iowa he's a local. Guy he actually went To iowa

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to play For, fran who he grew up watching As

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sienna's head. Coach, that's you, know part of the relationship.

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There and then he didn't play a ton At. Iowa

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he was a backup For. Fran fran takes the pen

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job and it's kind of, like you, know he wanted

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to come back. Home So trevor in the chat, says you,

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know brings up The Saint bonaventure. Game, well they really

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Needed Riley mulvey in that game because he's a seven

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footer that protects the rim And Saint bonaventure just abuse

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them on the inside and he got a, concussion played

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two minutes and he hadn't played since he's played the

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last two. Games he's. Back he's not even the best

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big on The sienna. Team Tasman goodrick is. Phenomenal he's.

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Back so what that means, is you know they're gonna

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be able TO i Think sianna can Force indiana into

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some bad, shots into taking some. Threes they've got these

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two sort of trees that are pretty good rim, protectors

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and their guards are going to defend out to the

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three point, line SO i think they're gonna be tougher

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Than indiana expects them to be. Defensively The colgate, game

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WHICH i referenced in our last, breakdown is the NIGHT

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i realized That sienna cannot function against his, zone like totally.

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Lost they just had no. Clue and Then sianna went

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on a run of games where they played inferior Competition,

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Albany Holy, Cross, Longwood American, Main, Niagara. Canisius those are

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it doesn't matter if those teams can go in his.

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Zone those are not good basketball teams this year for

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the most. Part way Down, canisius way Down maine is

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awful this. Year Longwood Griff aldrichschuk went To virginia to

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coach with h with his Boy Ryan. Otum they're. Bad

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american is down from what they were last. Year so

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like those are all sort of, this you, know like

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whatever type. Results vermont was able to confuse them a

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little bit defensively going to the, zone And sienna had no.

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Answer indiana a doesn't really play, zone and b is

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not going to care enough About sienna to like alter their, defense,

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Right like that's another thing you have to understand about

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these Big Like indiana's not worried about, like, oh we

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might have to play some zone Against. Sienna they're just, like,

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No we're just gonna play our game for forty. Minutes

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it might get ugly at, times but we're still good

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enough athletes to win this game by, twelve, Right like

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that's just how that's going to. Be more it's more

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important For indiana to play their game regardless of What sianna,

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does because that's the only way they get something out

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of this. Game they're not like scheming for twenty four

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point Nsunderdog. Sienna so because of, THAT i think there

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are ways Where sienna keeps this much closer than the,

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spread and rob you're probably you're under is probably good

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Because sianna covering this likely means they took Some indiana

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took some bad, shots had a hard time getting into their,

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offense maybe settled for some.

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Speaker 1: Threes SO i think both of those.

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Speaker 2: PLAY i would Say sienna and under In sianna plus

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twenty two and a half will be my leg of

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the parlay.

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Speaker 3: Very. NICE i would just say real quick because the

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Way i'm wired always looking at, totals a realistic score

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in this, Game adam final score is seventy. Eight something

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like seventy eight fifty seven is what came to my.

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Mind that's a cover For. Sienna that's a blowout On indiana's.

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Part that makes the head coach, happy but it makes

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the betters who play the dog. Happy so that's the

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margin that you even have to exceed if you're Betting indiana.

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Here it's got to be a total intensity driven blowout Of.

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Sienna we just don't know If indiana's coming to the

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floor In bloomington, today where by the, way the crowd

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probably won't be as vocal because kids are home for the,

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holidays so maybe a little less of a home floor

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advantage In bloomington.

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Speaker 2: Tonight, yeah and just talking about potential like backdoor, opportunities

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Like sianna really doesn't want to shoot the, three like

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that's that's not. There with the exception Of Brendan, coyle

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he'll he'll bomb it from. Deep but like their best,

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Players Gavin dodie always wants to go off the. Dribble

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he's not really trying to take like jump or. Threes

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and then Good rick on the inside has, become you,

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know the arguably the best offensive threat and he plays

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around the. Rim so if this is like foot off

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the gas scenario Where indiana's up fifteen, EIGHTEEN i think

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there's gonna be like a lot of like dribble drive

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maybe easy buckets to like keep the margin close. Enough so,

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YEAH i Think cianna plus the points is good. There And,

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ROB i hope the boys are a little bit more

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competitive than your final, score BUT i think it's kind of.

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Realistic seventies to sixties is What i'll call. It AND

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i think THE i Think santa to be pretty happy

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with that. Effort this is a very Good indiana.

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Speaker 4: Team, Okay, garth what we have some couple THINGS i

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just brought up in the you, know in the last

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my little rant, there if you want to call it.

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Speaker 1: That although it wasn't really a. RANT i wasn't.

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Speaker 2: UPSET i was just, saying like you know it. Was

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it was my breakdown Of. Ciana he's his thoughts On American,

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virginia specifically the over one fifty six and a half

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high total for A virginia. Game But american is nine

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and one to the over for this. Year i'm going

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to start this off and Then i'll Let rob hammer this.

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Home you have to get high total for A virginia

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game out of your. Vocabulary Ryan otum And Griff aldridge

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are Not virginia basketball as we've known it for years and.

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Years there is no such thing as quote unquote high

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total for A virginia game. Anymore it's not a team

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that plays. Slow it's not a team that plays pack.

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Line it's just not what you knew For virginia is

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irrelevant going. Forward this is odom who who you? KNOW i,

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mean he's he's a defensive, Guy, rob but like maybe

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a little bit more of like A havoc style defensive,

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guy not, like, hey let's play like run thirty seconds

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off the shot clock and play this like pack line.

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Defense and then you, Know aldrich's teams were up and

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down At longwood and he's he is the sort of

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his associate head coach at this, Point SO i wouldn't

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say like high total for A virginia. Game you might

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be onto something With american because even Though Matt rodgers

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is no longer, there two Time Patriots League player of

466
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,839
The year took them to THE Ncaa tournament last, year

467
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,559
it's a Young american team this, year which is WHY

468
00:24:33,599 --> 00:24:35,440
i was a little out on them coming into the.

469
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,920
Season But, rob they can score a little, bit so

470
00:24:38,279 --> 00:24:40,079
he wants to know thoughts on the. Over we're gonna

471
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,599
go to the totals guy for this, One, rob what

472
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:41,799
do you?

473
00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 3: Think? Yeah And i'm glad he asked the question BECAUSE

474
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:49,039
i was very. MUCH i dug into this one and

475
00:24:49,079 --> 00:24:52,359
handicapped it pretty. Strong. Me What i'll say To garth

476
00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:56,759
is there's a separation In american games so far this,

477
00:24:56,799 --> 00:24:59,680
season and what you want to look at is the

478
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,400
game where they played teams that play with pace Like virginia.

479
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,720
Does those games all speak to over in this, contest,

480
00:25:07,759 --> 00:25:10,319
Right american plays Wake forest gets to one sixty. Two

481
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,400
they Play, penn it gets to one sixty. Two they

482
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,759
PLAYED gw it gets to one seventy, four they play Long,

483
00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:19,319
wood it gets to one fifty. Eight in between all of,

484
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,519
that it's like an extreme, schedule right from a totals

485
00:25:23,559 --> 00:25:27,279
perspective or from a matchup, perspective they play four snails paced.

486
00:25:27,319 --> 00:25:30,400
Teams in between all. That maine doesn't want to go anywhere.

487
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,559
Fast drexel doesn't want to go anywhere. Fast Eastern shore

488
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,559
doesn't want to go anywhere. Fast, sienna who we just talked,

489
00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:39,480
about doesn't want to go anywhere. Fast they're more defensive.

490
00:25:39,519 --> 00:25:43,599
Minded so you got this two subsets of games here

491
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,480
to choose. FROM i think the PROBLEM i ran into

492
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,839
with playing, over and by the, way not only Is

493
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,960
american nine to one full game, over their team total

494
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,400
is nine and one to the over as. Well so

495
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,400
it's another area you could look if you wanted to

496
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,440
find a way to play, over WHICH i was looking

497
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,680
really hard to do in this. Game the PROBLEM i

498
00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:07,319
have is That virginia even though they've taken on more

499
00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:10,519
of an offensive. Identity they've played some really good offensive

500
00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:14,200
teams and held them down as far as current modern

501
00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:19,519
day college basketball is. Concerned they Played, butler And butler

502
00:26:19,559 --> 00:26:22,400
winds up winning eighty seventy. Three they Played, texas they

503
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,480
hold them to sixty. Nine they Play, maryland they hold

504
00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:27,160
them to seventy. Two they Play, marshall they hold them

505
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,079
to seventy. Eight all four of those probably better Than,

506
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,960
american certainly better Than american on the offensive. End WHAT

507
00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:38,519
i like About american if you're looking toward over in this,

508
00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:43,000
case is the fact That simpkins has just pushed pace this.

509
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,240
Year you go back and look at the tempo. Numbers,

510
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,599
obviously those of us who have followed this for a,

511
00:26:49,599 --> 00:26:51,720
while you remember The Jeff jones era where they just

512
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,079
basically scored fifty. Five that was their. Game but the

513
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,039
tempo numbers have risen significantly this year For. American so

514
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,680
if they're gonna, push Then virginia's gonna score even. More

515
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,759
that's how you get. HERE i think you get to

516
00:27:05,799 --> 00:27:09,279
the over, if in, Fact virginia gets mid nineties or,

517
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,920
better it's possible because Then, americans you, know sixty five

518
00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:16,799
sixty seven gets the job done for. You SO i

519
00:27:16,839 --> 00:27:20,279
wouldn't look under in this. CASE i really wouldn't BECAUSE

520
00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:22,559
i Think virginia can get, there and As adam, says

521
00:27:22,599 --> 00:27:24,480
it's probably not a let off the gas type of,

522
00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:29,079
team So i'd probably still look at the. OVER i

523
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,680
WISH i had a better you, Know american would have

524
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,160
been a better kept secret if in fact it, wasn't

525
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,160
and a better. Play let's put it that. Way if

526
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,759
it Wasn't virginia, today if it was somebody else, where

527
00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:43,359
we could just sneak in and nobody notices and play.

528
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,440
Over like has been the case most of the. Season,

529
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,400
here you got a high profile team where it's. Noticed

530
00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:52,720
the nine to one is noticed by better subsequent move.

531
00:27:52,839 --> 00:27:54,839
UPWARD i would still look a little bit over here

532
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:55,720
one fifty six and a.

533
00:27:55,759 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 2: Half, YEAH i THINK i would agree with. That for,

534
00:28:01,519 --> 00:28:03,680
ME i don't have a ton on this. GAME i

535
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,640
would say it feels like that line's getting up there

536
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,279
a little, bit so my opinion would be more towards the.

537
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,480
Side like, AGAIN i was anti it's Weirdest i'm not

538
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,119
gonna say Anti.

539
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:15,559
Speaker 1: American.

540
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 2: ROB i love The United, states loved this, country BUT i.

541
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,680
WAS i was not super high On american coming into

542
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,200
this season because they LOST i mean they lost seniors that.

543
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,599
Speaker 1: Had been with the program for for like all four.

544
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 2: Years like that's that's one thing that you still get

545
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,559
in The Patriot, league that you is really becoming like

546
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,960
just a foreign thing in college. Basketball is? That like

547
00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:42,519
they had guys that were like program guys Like Matt

548
00:28:42,599 --> 00:28:44,799
rodgers could have easily after he Won player of The,

549
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,720
year went and gone and played a year somewhere, else

550
00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:50,519
but he chose to come back Get american into THE ncaa.

551
00:28:50,599 --> 00:28:52,880
Tournament he had a couple of other seniors on that

552
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,759
team last year that won The Patriot.

553
00:28:54,839 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: League so like because of that.

554
00:28:57,279 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: And knowing how important That rogers AND i think they

555
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,240
graduated like three guys that were all like four year.

556
00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: Seniors knowing how important those guys were in the.

557
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,119
Speaker 2: PROGRAM i was a little down on this team coming

558
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,680
into this, year but they have played better THAN i

559
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,640
expected them, to which makes me think that they're. Young

560
00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:19,279
they're young players might be able to step in and

561
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,240
sort of fill some of the. Production so now is

562
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,079
that gonna win them Another Patriot? League well maybe because

563
00:29:25,079 --> 00:29:28,799
the conference is, Atrocious but What i'll tell you it does.

564
00:29:28,839 --> 00:29:31,319
Help in a game like, this where you open twenty,

565
00:29:31,359 --> 00:29:33,759
five it's up to twenty eight and a, half the

566
00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:37,480
sort of consensus would, be, oh, Well america's not very

567
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,640
good this, year probably for some of the things THAT

568
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,480
i pointed, out when in reality they haven't played half.

569
00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:44,839
Bad SO i, think like for, me it would have

570
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,160
to be dog or pass that twenty eight and a

571
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,960
half might be tough For virginia to, cover but definitely

572
00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:53,759
not a ton Of i'm not super confident saying. Now

573
00:29:53,799 --> 00:29:56,680
i'm just IF i can talk someone off of laying

574
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,240
twenty eight and a half, HERE i Think i've done

575
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,440
my job BECAUSE i don't think YOU'RE i think there's

576
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:03,519
better ways to spend your money today than trying to

577
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:08,079
lay twenty eight and a half With virginia mac Mad. Max,

578
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,960
listen if you want to throw another game, out go,

579
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:11,920
ahead and you don't have.

580
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,279
Speaker 1: To we appreciate the.

581
00:30:13,319 --> 00:30:16,119
Speaker 2: Donation if you want to throw a different game, out

582
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,799
Just i'll be looking for it in the. Chat you

583
00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:19,519
don't have to attach a donation to, it because we

584
00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:21,279
want to get a game for. You but we opened

585
00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:24,240
the show with this, game so we. Did Missouri illinois

586
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,480
we already broke it. Down we already spent ten minutes on.

587
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:29,599
It we talked about both side and. Total so you

588
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,920
can just rewind and get that. Breakdown but if you

589
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,000
want to throw another one in the, chat go ahead

590
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,279
and we'll make sure we'll get your game By u's

591
00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:40,079
talking about a game THAT i find quite interesting here

592
00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:43,359
and we might wow well by. You AND i may

593
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,279
disagree with a little bit on this, one which is.

594
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,279
RARE i also don't love disagreeing With. Keith he knows

595
00:30:48,319 --> 00:30:53,039
what he's talking. About But keith, says absolutely Fading tulsa

596
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,799
off that miracle AT. Wku if you miss that, game

597
00:30:57,519 --> 00:31:01,559
great inbound play that led into a three point attempt

598
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,319
that was hit at the buzzer For tulsa to win

599
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,839
yet another. Game, still the only loss rod for This

600
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,720
tulsa team was inexplicably blowing That Kansas state game in

601
00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:13,799
the final forty five. Seconds tremendous year For tulsa. Continues

602
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,279
it looked Like Western kentucky had, them and they bang

603
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:19,839
a three at the buzzer to win the. Game bayou,

604
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,920
says kids gone for the. Holidays this game was in

605
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,359
two within two to three. POSSESSIONS a bold take From

606
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,839
keith on WHAT i believe is a seventeen point. Spread

607
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,720
he says he loves This denver off and study two

608
00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:33,480
guys and a coach who keeps sneaking up on.

609
00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:34,119
Speaker 1: Teams SO.

610
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with The denver love, them but man

611
00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:47,400
Like tulsa's just, Hits they just hit. Everything their underlying

612
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,240
metrics don't really suggest like that they're gonna have a

613
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,240
ton of shooting. Regression and now they're at home where

614
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,440
they should get a ton of open looks Against. Denver

615
00:31:56,599 --> 00:31:59,440
SO i kind of Lean tulsa a little bit. Here

616
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,079
timately kept me off because this is quite the big.

617
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,359
Number SO i guess break the tie, Here. ROB i Like,

618
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,599
Tulsa keith Likes. Denver how are you seeing this? One

619
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,559
you can just play neutral and talk about the total

620
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:15,039
and that's not break the tie at, all BECAUSE i.

621
00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:17,559
Speaker 3: CAN i can come right in in the middle, Here

622
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,200
adam and tell you. That To bayou's, POINT i think

623
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,480
the best play in this game would probably Be denver

624
00:32:23,559 --> 00:32:27,480
team total. Over if you get that letdown situation out Of,

625
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:31,359
tulsa then that shows up in the form of. Defense

626
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,200
the offense is going to go out there and you,

627
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,559
KNOW i say this all the. Time in, basketball guys

628
00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:44,880
love to pad their numbers offensively defenses is very few

629
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:51,319
players treat defense as their priority in. Basketball it's, offense, offense.

630
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,400
Offense So tulsa's gonna walk, in you, know heavy favorite

631
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,200
should score on This denver, defense et, cetera et. Cetera

632
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,960
but off of the game Against Western, kentucky which was emotionally,

633
00:33:03,079 --> 00:33:05,960
draining which was physically, draining et, cetera et, cetera here

634
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,160
comes this high powered offense that's only asked to get

635
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,440
you to seventy three points against a team that might

636
00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:17,200
be somewhat. DISINTERESTED i fully Believe denver is going to

637
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:19,079
get over the seventy two and a. Half in, fact

638
00:33:19,119 --> 00:33:22,640
it's on this little shortlist of mine where our parlay

639
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,359
leg is concerned for the. Day but to your, point

640
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,799
my affection For denver in this game comes more toward

641
00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:33,400
the total and their team. TOTAL i isolate it that.

642
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,000
WAY i don't, know you, know the points may be

643
00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:41,079
too much here, again If i'm speaking about Potential tulsa,

644
00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:43,880
disinterest then maybe you want to look toward. POINTS i

645
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,319
GUESS i just don't trust The denver defense. Enough but

646
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,720
WHAT i do trust is their offense and they've been

647
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:52,400
you want to talk about hot, shooting and it's not

648
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,920
a great schedule by any stretch of the imagination that they.

649
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,000
Played but it's seven straight games shooting eight percent from

650
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:04,359
the field or better for This denver, team and that's

651
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,480
hard to do in, practice never mind in, games no

652
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,519
matter what the. Competition so to, me just to answer

653
00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:13,280
by you question real, QUICK i Would i'm going to

654
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,599
be personally on The denver team total over seventy two

655
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:16,840
and a half and it may show up as the

656
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:17,880
parlay leg, Here.

657
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: YEAH i mean.

658
00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you'd almost have to think like this is equally

659
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,440
a bad spot For. Denver SO i, understand Like tulsa

660
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,800
maybe coming out a little bit. Flat they just have

661
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,760
this like they grab this huge road win in dramatic.

662
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,599
Fashion they basically had lost the game and they just

663
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:38,440
did a tremendous execution in the final like five seconds

664
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,960
to get the ball up to half court and then

665
00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:45,079
run just an incredible inbounds play to get an open

666
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:47,199
look at a three that was nailed for the. Win

667
00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:50,239
But denver over the weekend pulled an upset of there

668
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:53,000
pulled the upset Like tulsa's wasn't an. Upset they were

669
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,039
a favorite in that. Game tulsa did not cover that,

670
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:57,880
game for what it's worth Against Western. Kentucky believe they

671
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,880
were a three and a half point, Favorite So tulsa

672
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,519
did not cover even though they won that. Game denver

673
00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:05,239
over the weekend is like a nine point dog went

674
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,199
and won At Northern. Colorado WHICH i know Where Northern

675
00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:11,559
colorado is BECAUSE i passed it on my drive from

676
00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:14,199
The Denver airport up To Fort collins two years. Ago

677
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:18,840
didn't know exactly Where Northern colorado. Is it's actually very

678
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:24,639
close To colorado. State you Pass greeley Like asure pretty,

679
00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:28,519
much maybe twenty minutes outside of thirty minutes outside Of Fort.

680
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:32,639
Collins SO i GUESS i bring that up BECAUSE i

681
00:35:32,679 --> 00:35:35,400
think there's a bit of altitude there Now. DENVER i

682
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,079
Guess denver plays an. Altitude so no big deal going

683
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:41,599
up and playing a game at Or Northern, colorado which

684
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:44,280
is where they were over the. Weekend but you talked

685
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,519
about going on the road getting that road win On.

686
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,920
Saturday two days, later you're on the road again down In.

687
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,480
Tulsa that's my concern for The denver. Sides it might

688
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:57,000
be an equally bad spot for, Them so numbers pretty.

689
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,360
BIG i Think i'm with, You rob. Points theres gonna be.

690
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,480
POINTS i don't know if it's gonna Be. DENVER i

691
00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:04,159
don't know if it's gonna be, taalsome but it certainly

692
00:36:04,199 --> 00:36:07,000
seems that these two teams could combine to put the

693
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:09,360
ball in the basket. Today So i'll just call for

694
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,440
the full game over, Here.

695
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,199
Speaker 3: Yeah and real quick to that. Point and a couple

696
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:19,039
of teams That denver's, Played arizona get whacked by thirty

697
00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:23,000
but still make it to seventy. Three, seattle who we

698
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:25,039
know to be a pretty good team mid major this,

699
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:28,760
year find their way to seventy, Three Montana state seventy,

700
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,960
three and all the rest are better than. That so

701
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,320
and only a rare a few instances have they not

702
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,400
made it to this, number whether they got crushed by

703
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,119
the opponent or. Not AND i just want to say

704
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,920
That Northern colorado, Game denver's last ten minutes were sensational

705
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,559
because they were way behind in that, game AND i

706
00:36:48,599 --> 00:36:53,239
think they Beat Northern colorado in that one pretty. Soundly

707
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,880
over the course of the last Ten i'd have to

708
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,639
go check the exact numbers but that back half of

709
00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:01,000
the second half was a maze For denver in that.

710
00:37:01,079 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: GAME i gotta shout out my, Guy garth feel for.

711
00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:07,199
Him so he's A Western kentucky. Alum he said he

712
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,039
was at that game absolute highway, robbery and you got

713
00:37:10,039 --> 00:37:12,840
by you in the chat calling for the illegal. Screen,

714
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,559
yeah they could have had a could have had an

715
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:17,679
illegal pick called on that last play that that kind

716
00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:20,119
of opened the guy up for. Three but uh, yeah

717
00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:22,039
that's a tough beat For Western. Kentucky that would have

718
00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:26,039
been a really good win for. Them so, sorry sorry

719
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:27,760
that that you were on the wrong side of, That.

720
00:37:28,119 --> 00:37:30,440
Garth although if you Took Western kentucky in that, game

721
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:32,519
WHICH i think you liked them maybe with the points

722
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,519
or maybe we like them on the, show you would

723
00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:35,880
have you would have cashed that that.

724
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,519
Speaker 1: Ticket Mad.

725
00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 2: Max i'll continue to look for you in the chat

726
00:37:39,519 --> 00:37:41,280
if you want to throw another game out, there we

727
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,599
can hit a different. Game but LIKE i, said we

728
00:37:43,599 --> 00:37:46,960
we kicked the show off With Illinois. Missouri so as,

729
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,159
always the show is on demand on the way you're

730
00:37:49,159 --> 00:37:51,719
talking to YouTube. Channel if you have a chance to

731
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,360
get over there and like, subscribe drop a. Comment it

732
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,199
does help the show out. Immensely we very much appreciate,

733
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,239
that but we'll continue to move. On this is an interesting,

734
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,039
game AND i know people want to talk about some

735
00:38:03,079 --> 00:38:06,039
of these early. Tips So Denver tulsa is an early

736
00:38:06,039 --> 00:38:09,320
tip three Pm. Eastern we have another early Tip yere.

737
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 3: With.

738
00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: Seattle they're gonna Play Texas San. ANTONIO i had a

739
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,079
nice win On friday. Night haven't been able to say

740
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:17,800
that much in college hoop this, year ALTHOUGH i can't

741
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,519
lose a football. Play the weirdest season on ROB i

742
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:25,039
am it is The Twilight, zone but in A i

743
00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:28,920
guess a half, good half bad. WAY i HAD i

744
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,639
hit every football play this. WEEKEND i Had James madison

745
00:38:32,199 --> 00:38:37,760
somehow covered that, game BUT i just everything goes the other.

746
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,320
Way in, basketball it's got to turn at some, point

747
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,199
Like i'm gonna come out here and start giving out

748
00:38:43,199 --> 00:38:46,199
college basketball winners at some. Point BUT i almost can't

749
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,960
even get that upset Because i'm having winning days because

750
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,960
all the football plays. Hit so it's, like what do

751
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,000
you even you, know what do you even? Do i'm

752
00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:55,199
like third or second now on the, site the whole

753
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,880
site for. FOOTBALL i don't even really consider myself much

754
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,159
of a football. Guy i'm a basketball, guy But i'm

755
00:39:00,159 --> 00:39:04,480
over here just hemorrhaging in. BASKETBALL i win it back in.

756
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,239
Football it's very very. Odd felt like a good spot

757
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,039
to event on. THAT i did have a good basketball

758
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:12,480
day On, friday and a big reason for that was

759
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,280
my four percent play on that night Was. Seattle they

760
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,119
went in and got, well they didn't go. In they

761
00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:22,199
were actually so they were actually the home. Team So

762
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,880
seattle is like doing the they think they've Become yukon

763
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:29,280
overnight where they play half their games At Red Hawk

764
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,760
arena on campus and the other half That Climate, pledge

765
00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:36,360
which is like probably something that had to do with

766
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,880
the move to THE wcc where it's, like, okay we're

767
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,400
gonna play bigger games At climate Pet. Pledge so do

768
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,360
The gonzaga, game The Saint mary's. Game it's a way

769
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,760
that they can Host washington BECAUSE i don't, know if

770
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,639
you're familiar with like Red Hawk, gym it's very very.

771
00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:53,360
Small it like like maybe a thousand seeds on. Campus

772
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,480
SO i noticed that was the case over the. Weekend

773
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:58,480
here they turn around from that huge upset win rob

774
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,400
and they go on the road for a day game

775
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,639
down In San, Antonio. Texas against the road runners Of

776
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,239
Texas San. Antonio sean says he Liked seattle minus the. Points,

777
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,320
SEAN i Liked seattle minus the points, too even though

778
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,719
it's not the best spot for. THEM i love this

779
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,000
team LIKE i AND i played against them a couple

780
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:21,880
times earlier in the, year but THEY i have totally

781
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,159
come around On seattle being. Good they, were of course

782
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:27,400
a TEAM i watched very closely last year in The.

783
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,719
WHACK i had my instant reservations on if they would

784
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,599
sort of translate.

785
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,519
Speaker 1: Being to like being A wcc, team.

786
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: Because of, course rob they kind of got the bump

787
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,920
from like the odds makers for like being in a

788
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,519
bigger conference, now AND i was unsure if that was

789
00:40:42,559 --> 00:40:44,440
like legit at the beginning of the. Season but now

790
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,840
That i've watched them play, ENOUGH i can, say, like

791
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:51,039
this team's really. Good they Outplayed washington like that was

792
00:40:51,079 --> 00:40:54,119
not a fluke. Win they straight up just Outplayed washington

793
00:40:54,519 --> 00:40:58,440
On friday. Night And Texas San antonio doesn't create enough

794
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,320
offense for me to think that they can hang With.

795
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,159
Speaker 1: Seattle So, Sean i'm with.

796
00:41:02,199 --> 00:41:03,679
Speaker 2: YOU i would lay it IF i was going to

797
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,360
play this game Win, seattle even in a bad spot

798
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,119
on the. Road what do you think Ron, Texas, Texas San,

799
00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:10,400
Antonio seattle this.

800
00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:13,679
Speaker 3: Afternoon, well first thing IS i will comment on That

801
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,960
Seattle washington game Where seattle and it was a battle

802
00:41:18,599 --> 00:41:22,119
back and forth score wise down the stretch in that,

803
00:41:22,199 --> 00:41:26,119
Game seattle small, Lead, washington take it, Back seattle small Lead,

804
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,760
washington press them or push them and come back and

805
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,960
take a. Lead and in the end it Was seattle

806
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,039
who won the tug awar which against a big ten

807
00:41:35,199 --> 00:41:37,280
school has to open your. Eyes BUT i think my

808
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,480
eyes were first opened that them way back in the

809
00:41:40,519 --> 00:41:42,559
beginning of this, show the very first, week week and a,

810
00:41:42,599 --> 00:41:46,519
half WHEN i was Noticing Eastern washington played close WITH,

811
00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:50,360
ucla came back and covered, again and then they're Playing

812
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,119
seattle And seattle was bet up a little bit And

813
00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:56,920
seattle absolutely DESTROYED ewu one by twenty seven in that.

814
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,079
Game and they're, like, well you know, what maybe WHAT

815
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:02,039
i saw out Of Eastern washington AGAINST UCLA i have

816
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:04,400
to apply To seattle now since, then they've been nothing

817
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,159
but good to. Backcourt in That washington, game you, know

818
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,880
these guys are pretty solid backcourt senior, tandem but they

819
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,519
can shoot from, three they can get to the. Rim

820
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,360
in college, basketball it's been said for forty years maybe,

821
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:23,119
more that you win big games with guard. Play Certainly

822
00:42:23,159 --> 00:42:26,719
seattle has. THAT i don't like the spot For, seattle but,

823
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,119
again you have to weigh situation against, fundamentals and the

824
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:32,880
fundamentals in this game the guys that are going to

825
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,239
be on the floor pretty much suggest That, seattle and

826
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,360
they're a really good defensive team. Too don't let me

827
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,639
leave that out. Here that they made utsas their problem.

828
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,000
Scoring they could have problems scoring Against seattle defense does.

829
00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:48,000
TRAVEL i didn't play it at. THEM i wish it

830
00:42:48,039 --> 00:42:51,880
was a better spot for This seattle, team but certainly

831
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,079
they've shown that it's no fluke so far this. Season and,

832
00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:00,199
again when you have a pair of guards leading the

833
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,599
way that both shoot forty two percent or better or

834
00:43:03,639 --> 00:43:09,159
whatever it, Is errington And maldonado from, three then you're

835
00:43:09,159 --> 00:43:12,719
gonna be pretty. Good SO i don't have a firm stance,

836
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,760
here BUT i like What i've seen out Of, seattle no.

837
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,599
Doubt if this situation was a little bit, BETTER i

838
00:43:16,599 --> 00:43:17,320
probably would have been.

839
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,119
Speaker 2: There, yeah it wasn't even a flukey win, either because

840
00:43:21,159 --> 00:43:23,280
like they were just they were going to the rim getting,

841
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,920
Buckets like winning on the interior wasn't like they just

842
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,920
hit a bunch of like crazy, Shots like they straight

843
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,440
up outplayed the Outplayed, washington and earlier this year they

844
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,920
straight up out Played. Stanford NOW i know that's less,

845
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,079
impressive LIKE i don't you, Know stanford is, whatever but

846
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:44,199
like still that that's two scenarios where they've outplayed a better.

847
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,000
Team and you, KNOW i think for, me like what

848
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:49,400
put me off was that early second week of the

849
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,519
season they lost at home to Cal, poly AND i

850
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:55,000
already felt like their numbers were a little bit inflated

851
00:43:55,199 --> 00:43:57,800
coming into the, year and so like then a couple

852
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,480
weeks later they were a super like sharp like you,

853
00:44:02,519 --> 00:44:05,199
Know darling if you, will right like where like every

854
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,760
all The sharp guys were On seattle and they lost

855
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,519
TO U See Santa barbara out in a neutral court In,

856
00:44:12,599 --> 00:44:15,599
vegas AND i was, like, okay like maybe this team's

857
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:17,880
a little bit Fraudul AND i actually played against them

858
00:44:18,199 --> 00:44:20,679
last week WITH Uc davis because again they were going

859
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,480
on the. ROAD i covered that, game but they won

860
00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:26,119
by one and that was kind of, like you, KNOW

861
00:44:26,159 --> 00:44:27,639
i watched that entire. GAME i was, like you know,

862
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,559
WHAT i THINK i got a little lucky to win that.

863
00:44:29,639 --> 00:44:33,400
Game davis hit a couple of big shots. LATE i

864
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,920
Think i'm back With seattle and they were so impressive Against,

865
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,840
washington And i've seen enough now THAT i DON'T i

866
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,000
don't Think i'm playing against The RedHawks anytime. Soon so

867
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,440
this would be a matchup THAT i, think like the

868
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,079
matchup tells me that they they should crush this. Team

869
00:44:48,519 --> 00:44:52,599
they should absolutely Bury Texas San antonio like they're they're

870
00:44:52,599 --> 00:44:57,079
going to generate very little. Offense scoring points is going

871
00:44:57,159 --> 00:44:59,800
to be a struggle for them most. Likely And seattle

872
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,360
was they're they're cooking can fill it. Up so that

873
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,280
to me right there tells me that a two point

874
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,679
game could become a ten point game very very. Quickly

875
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:08,960
and you're you're. GOOD i, mean if you can get

876
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,920
it up to double, digits you're gonna cash this. Bet

877
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,079
BECAUSE i believe even after the move the spread, is

878
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:15,840
what are we looking at for a number on this

879
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:16,480
one right?

880
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: Now? Rob like nine and a? Half is it still

881
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,119
like eight and a half or nine and a?

882
00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:23,599
Speaker 3: Half get up to the early? Match, yeah, yeah eight

883
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:25,760
and a. HALF i see eight and a half across the.

884
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:26,280
Board really.

885
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: Universally, YEAH i feel like this is a double Digit

886
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,079
seattle win unless they straight up come out and just

887
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:34,199
are just not.

888
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,679
Speaker 1: Interested BUT i just don't think that's gonna be the.

889
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: Case they're Not they're not a big enough name to

890
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,000
be not interested in like a game like, this you,

891
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,519
KNOW i, mean they're just it's not LIKE i don't

892
00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:47,199
think that that's the attitude of this of This seattle.

893
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:51,719
Team And Chris victor is a really good. Coach he

894
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:54,239
might be the next coach that ends up getting a

895
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,920
big job out of that out of that, league since

896
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,920
we know Like mark fu And Randy bennett won't go.

897
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,360
Anywhere like IF i was to pick A West Coast conference,

898
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,440
coach because every year there's one that like over achieves

899
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,280
and takes like a bigger, JOB i think it's going

900
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,440
to Be Chris victor From seattle this. Year AND i

901
00:46:10,519 --> 00:46:13,360
Like seattle in that. Game, okay back to the. Chat

902
00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:19,159
let's see. What, oh Here's Matt, okay let's Mad max's.

903
00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:20,159
Back let's get him in.

904
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: Here he.

905
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,559
Speaker 2: Says memphis is on a three game losing. Streak Alabama

906
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:27,000
state pulled an upset as a nineteen point dog VERSUS. Uab,

907
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:31,519
yeah shout Out Tony. Mattlock is that the coach rob

908
00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:36,760
Former memphis? Guy. Right i'll leave that for you because

909
00:46:37,039 --> 00:46:40,280
there's a little storyline, there. Right Alabama state Playing. Memphis

910
00:46:40,599 --> 00:46:43,280
Alabama state covered two or three is sizeable. Dogs memphis

911
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,000
turns the ball over a. Lot not a great defensive rebounding.

912
00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:49,880
Team kick us, Off Alabama State. Memphis do you think

913
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,880
the Big dog has any bark in it?

914
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: Today in this?

915
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 3: One we just had, This, well it had to have Been.

916
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,800
Alabama Wasn't NATO's playing one of his assistants last? WEEK i? Believe?

917
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,960
Yeah maybe Right Hodgson South, Florida.

918
00:47:06,679 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes South florida covered that number.

919
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: Two, Yeah so it's always you, Know alabama won that.

920
00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:18,639
Game they would never really in. Trouble But South florida

921
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,519
did cover the. Number it went way. OVER i guess

922
00:47:20,599 --> 00:47:22,519
that's because that's where my interest was in that. Game

923
00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:24,760
that's WHAT i was paying attention. To the points. Going

924
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,000
but it is always a twenty twenty hindsight, thing, head

925
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,480
coach or. Disciple which way do you want to? STAND

926
00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:33,920
i WOULD i would probably. Lean you know you hate

927
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,360
to Play memphis as a. Favorite let me start. There

928
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:39,480
memphis just doesn't fit the profile of a team that

929
00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:42,800
covers a lot of games as a sizable. Favorite Under Penny,

930
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:47,159
hardaway you like them more when they're an attractive underdog

931
00:47:48,679 --> 00:47:52,639
that can match up personnel wise and is somewhat overlooked. Here,

932
00:47:53,559 --> 00:47:58,280
however if You're Alabama, state do you get up for

933
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,679
two games in a row like meeting an in state

934
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:07,239
team that's in a classification level higher than? Yours OBVIOUSLY

935
00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:12,360
uab a mid, Major Alabama state a significant low. Major

936
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,320
it's hard to play two games back to back of that.

937
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,000
Magnitude would be my counterpoint to not wanting to Play.

938
00:48:21,039 --> 00:48:24,360
Memphis for, me it would be a no. PLAY i

939
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,679
think you could maybe look for toward the total, here

940
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,840
and my, idea my thought process there would probably be

941
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:37,000
to look toward Under just feel like The memphis personnel

942
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:42,119
against this type of opponent shows up really good, defensively

943
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,519
AND i don't know What Alabama state can score, Here

944
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:49,679
so maybe a slight lean toward the under in this particular.

945
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,400
Instance BUT i don't, know like you can hear in

946
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,639
my voice a little bit of a counter argument for the,

947
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,960
side don't Like memphis in this price range is a.

948
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:02,440
Favorite don't like the thought Of Alabama state being able

949
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,440
to play two in a row like the one they just,

950
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,079
Played it's got to be like winning The Super bowl

951
00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:10,840
when you beat a team within the state, that's you,

952
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,320
know considered a big brother to. You SO i would

953
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,000
probably side alone and maybe take a slightly look towards

954
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,079
the total Under.

955
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:25,519
Speaker 2: Yeah i'm just pulling Up, yeah so's It's Tony, madlock

956
00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:28,599
the coach Of Alabama, state AND.

957
00:49:28,519 --> 00:49:31,079
Speaker 1: I, yeah so.

958
00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:36,599
Speaker 2: He was was were him And penny? TEAMMATES i think they, were, Right,

959
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,920
like weren't him And penny teammates At?

960
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,119
Speaker 1: Memphis he was.

961
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:46,079
Speaker 2: There from eighty nine so well was there from eighty

962
00:49:46,159 --> 00:49:49,360
nine to ninety. Two so the Reason i'm bringing up is,

963
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,559
Like i'm pretty sure these teams have started to play each. Year,

964
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,920
Yes madlock was At memphis eighty nine to ninety. Two

965
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,719
i'm pretty sure that was right around the same Time

966
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,599
penny was. There the reason is it's almost got like

967
00:50:02,639 --> 00:50:06,119
a yeah college Teammate Penny. Hardaway so it's almost got

968
00:50:06,159 --> 00:50:09,800
like A Tom izzo the one we just saw the other,

969
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,679
Day Greg campy type feel where LIKE i think these

970
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,719
two coaches are, friends they're on good. TERMS i don't

971
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,800
know That penny really wants to like go out and

972
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,559
embarrass you, know LIKE i don't think the. Goal if

973
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:23,840
you've watched a lot of These Michigan State oakland, games

974
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,559
and there was one the other, DAY i feel Like

975
00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:29,960
oakland's covered quite a bit lately because like it there's

976
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:32,880
not you, know if it comes to, it like at

977
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,559
the end of the, GAME i don't Think iso runs

978
00:50:35,639 --> 00:50:37,599
the score up On. Campy AND i would almost say

979
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:39,920
the same thing With, Memphis like if it's like a

980
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,239
thirteen point, game fifteen point, game sixteen point, GAME i

981
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,760
don't know That penny is like hell bent on going

982
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,360
for the knockout punch on his.

983
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: Buddy so that right there has me leaning toward the.

984
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 2: Dog the other thing that sort of tilts me toward the,

985
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,440
other LIKE i guess that Would, well this actually makes

986
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,119
the other, argument like if this game was was too

987
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:04,000
months ago or six weeks, ago i'd be all About Alabama.

988
00:51:04,079 --> 00:51:07,280
State but we've had this conversation a couple of. Times

989
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,519
The swack Mid, december when you get to this part

990
00:51:11,559 --> 00:51:15,039
in the, SCHEDULE i, mean you wonder how much some

991
00:51:15,159 --> 00:51:18,079
of THESE swax schools have left in the tank with

992
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,599
how much travel and just how many of these like

993
00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:24,639
sort of hot like step up by games they've had to.

994
00:51:24,639 --> 00:51:29,719
Play Alabama state has not played a SINGLE d one

995
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,519
home game yet this. Year their only home game Was november,

996
00:51:33,559 --> 00:51:38,519
fourteenth against a NON d one. OPPONENT i mean just

997
00:51:38,639 --> 00:51:43,440
in the past, Month they've gone To indy for a

998
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,280
couple of. Games they've gone To New, mexico, Right, Missouri,

999
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,840
Cincinnati now they're gonna Play. Memphis it's like you just

1000
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,159
have to wonder if they're like a little worn out

1001
00:51:54,199 --> 00:51:57,760
at this. Point but then, again does that even like

1002
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,280
you can always it's much easier to get up For

1003
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,800
memphis if You're Alabama state then it is if You're

1004
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,639
memphis to like get up for you, know For Alabama.

1005
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: STATE i, MEAN i meant it the other way.

1006
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,199
Speaker 2: Around it's easier For Alabama state to get themselves, up

1007
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,280
even though they might be, tired to play a team

1008
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,119
Like memphis than it is vice.

1009
00:52:15,199 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: Versa so with those two, THINGS i THINK i slightly

1010
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:19,280
leaned the.

1011
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: Dog but, MAN i would have loved this spot For

1012
00:52:21,079 --> 00:52:24,039
Alabama state if this was four weeks ago and they

1013
00:52:24,039 --> 00:52:26,519
were a little bit they. Wasn't right at the end

1014
00:52:26,519 --> 00:52:32,599
of this like really grueling non conference. Season So, max

1015
00:52:32,679 --> 00:52:34,519
you do make a good. POINT i, Mean Alabama state

1016
00:52:34,519 --> 00:52:37,599
got up for THE uab game and won, it so you,

1017
00:52:37,639 --> 00:52:39,519
know maybe maybe they've got that in.

1018
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: Them but uh, yeah we'll we'll. See it should be

1019
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,639
a be interesting.

1020
00:52:44,679 --> 00:52:48,679
Speaker 2: GAME i leaned the, dog all, Right, Steve we're gonna

1021
00:52:48,679 --> 00:52:50,199
go To rob because this is this is a team

1022
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,800
that he was he was high on coming into the,

1023
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,599
season and you, know you See Santa, Barbara. Rob they

1024
00:52:56,599 --> 00:52:59,000
didn't start off the season like you'd like to. See,

1025
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,440
Recently they've suffered with the injury To Mirror, little which

1026
00:53:03,679 --> 00:53:07,159
has hurt them in my, opinion but they have what

1027
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,960
some could consider a get right spot of sorts today Against.

1028
00:53:11,039 --> 00:53:14,280
Portland so the question everyone wants to know is does

1029
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:15,880
you See Santa barbara get right?

1030
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: Today and can they cover this number?

1031
00:53:20,119 --> 00:53:25,599
Speaker 3: Well, again when guys ask questions on, SIDES i apologize

1032
00:53:25,599 --> 00:53:30,119
for not looking towards side first in these. Games that's

1033
00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:34,519
Just i'm wired to go immediately toward. Total in this particular,

1034
00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:39,360
INSTANCE i kind of like this game to show up

1035
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,000
as an over for what it's. Worth you, See Santa

1036
00:53:43,039 --> 00:53:48,320
barbara hasn't looked the part offensively, lately but they get

1037
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:53,000
an opponent in their wheelhouse here In, portland where they're shooting,

1038
00:53:53,039 --> 00:53:54,920
CAPABILITIES i think it's hidden a little.

1039
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:55,039
Speaker 1: Bit.

1040
00:53:55,079 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 3: Adham Utah valley's a tremendous defensive team that probably doesn't

1041
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,519
get credit for being as good a defensive team as they. Are,

1042
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,840
then of course they played that game and Got leib's

1043
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,400
press conference after The Wisconsin Green bay game Against Santa

1044
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,760
barbara was where he basically, Said i'm giving up my

1045
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,760
radio show And i'm gonna. Devud these kids deserve my.

1046
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,679
Time and it was off of that. Win so congratulations

1047
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,239
to him for dedicating himself totally to the. Team but

1048
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,960
my point being that it's been two consecutive low scoring

1049
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,880
games For Santa, barbara which is a very good shooting,

1050
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,639
team and they don't play a lot of three point.

1051
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,679
DEFENSE i think a couple of those things add up

1052
00:54:34,679 --> 00:54:37,559
here Against, portland which will play with a ton of.

1053
00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:40,440
Pace we're going to get the possessions here That Santa

1054
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,400
barbara didn't get Against Utah valley that they you, know

1055
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,559
they didn't shoot well Against Green. BAY i think all

1056
00:54:46,599 --> 00:54:49,280
of those things in a bounce back, form big bounce back,

1057
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,840
GUY i think lead me toward over in this, game

1058
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,320
apologize for not being able to help as much where

1059
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,280
the side is, concerned but my eyes were drawn first

1060
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,119
to maybe a potential overplay, here and real quick at

1061
00:55:00,159 --> 00:55:01,599
him AS i look at the, clock let me go

1062
00:55:01,639 --> 00:55:03,519
ahead and give a parlay leg here because we have

1063
00:55:03,559 --> 00:55:08,320
four minutes AND i know you're already In so the choices, again,

1064
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,119
guys there's been a couple of, days, right come on

1065
00:55:10,199 --> 00:55:12,519
here and say you know What i'm down, to like

1066
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:14,639
two or three, choices AND i just rattle them all

1067
00:55:14,679 --> 00:55:17,280
off to. You the last two on the card here

1068
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,239
were both team. Totals i'll pick. One i'll tell you

1069
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,800
first that one of them WAS Iu indianapolis to get

1070
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,119
over the seventy one and a half.

1071
00:55:25,039 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 2: To get, well n talk about that game Because garth

1072
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,239
donated he wants THE Iu Indie Grand canyon.

1073
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,079
Speaker 1: Game can you just give us a few words on

1074
00:55:34,119 --> 00:55:35,360
that one or what you thought for?

1075
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:40,119
Speaker 3: HIM i will real, quick The indianapolis team total appealed

1076
00:55:40,159 --> 00:55:42,320
to me just Because Grand canyon came off of that

1077
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,920
big win Against wyoming a couple of days, ago AND

1078
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,840
i just Don't we've talked about disinterest a couple of

1079
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,480
times in the, show AND i just don't know that

1080
00:55:50,519 --> 00:55:52,360
the focus level will be the same as it was

1081
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,320
for That wyoming. Game that was a really good mid

1082
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,960
major game And Grant kenyon dominated defensively for the most,

1083
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,440
part a really Good wyoming. Team that's what you. Know

1084
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,280
they're predicated on defense this. YEAR i You indianapolis predicated on.

1085
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,480
OFFENSE i just think this is kind of the same

1086
00:56:06,519 --> 00:56:10,199
analysis that we used earlier in a letdown. Situation what

1087
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,599
goes first a little bit is the. DEFENSE Au indianapolis

1088
00:56:13,639 --> 00:56:15,119
is going to run up and down the. Floor you're

1089
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:17,360
gonna get your share. Possessions they're asked to get the

1090
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,559
seventy two points in this. GAME i think they. Will

1091
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,039
so For, garth that's my, quick very quick. Analysis we're

1092
00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:25,199
up round o'clock here on that.

1093
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,039
Speaker 2: One, yeah, yeah before you lock your parlay lay again

1094
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:30,159
because we only have like three minutes. Left When i'll

1095
00:56:30,159 --> 00:56:32,599
say To, garth just to wrap that, UP i lean

1096
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,960
toward the big. Spread and for reasons That rob, said

1097
00:56:36,039 --> 00:56:38,159
They Grand canyon goes on the road gets a win At.

1098
00:56:38,159 --> 00:56:40,280
Wyoming that's a really good win for. THEM i didn't

1099
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,360
really expect them to win that. GAME i don't think

1100
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,400
This Grand canyon team is even close to what their

1101
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,079
market rating. Is now they have to come home and

1102
00:56:49,159 --> 00:56:52,000
lay twenty five and a half to a team that's

1103
00:56:52,039 --> 00:56:54,400
gonna go fast and try to ken score a little.

1104
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,719
BIT i would say that that spread is too, Big So,

1105
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,920
Garth i'm with you on the side it seems like

1106
00:56:58,960 --> 00:56:59,239
a big.

1107
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: Spread just wanted to wrap that game. UP i didn't

1108
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:02,880
know we were going.

1109
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,159
Speaker 2: To talk about that one right, there but all, right go, Ahead,

1110
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:06,519
rob what are you looking at for that?

1111
00:57:06,599 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 3: Far real quick backdoor is always opened for Iu in

1112
00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:13,159
to do something at the. End So i'm gonna go

1113
00:57:13,199 --> 00:57:15,159
with a fan favorite, here at least one of. Mine

1114
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,400
in no sense not Playing Northridge. Adam northridge team total

1115
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,760
tonight Against Sacramento state is eighty six and a. Half

1116
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,679
AND i mean they came all the way cross country

1117
00:57:25,079 --> 00:57:28,519
To delaware where the money couldn't get To delaware fast

1118
00:57:28,599 --> 00:57:31,000
enough on A saturday, morning bad time slot for A

1119
00:57:31,039 --> 00:57:33,039
West coast. Team what are they doing making this? Trip et,

1120
00:57:33,119 --> 00:57:35,960
cetera et. Cetera AND i looked at their team total

1121
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,880
in that. GAME i, said he's. Serious there's no Way

1122
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,400
northridge doesn't Get maybe even if they don't play the first,

1123
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,719
twenty there's no, way because they're so capable of a

1124
00:57:43,719 --> 00:57:46,039
fifty point half at. Anytime there's no way they don't get.

1125
00:57:46,039 --> 00:57:48,119
There they played a great first, half they got there.

1126
00:57:48,199 --> 00:57:52,800
EASILY i think very quickly that they get there easily

1127
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:57,760
again tonight against A Sacramento state team that doesn't hit

1128
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,119
the boards, defensively which means a lot of chances For. Northridge,

1129
00:58:01,159 --> 00:58:03,199
Adam we've talked about the Way northwich can put the

1130
00:58:03,199 --> 00:58:06,320
ball in the bucket quite a bit this. Season they've

1131
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,119
come through for us a couple of. Times i'm gonna

1132
00:58:08,159 --> 00:58:10,360
ask them to do it. Again this team total is

1133
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,440
eighty six and a, half So i'm gonna Play Cal

1134
00:58:13,559 --> 00:58:16,199
State northridge up and over eighty six and a, half

1135
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,639
figuring against this defensively Weak Sacramento state team that they

1136
00:58:19,719 --> 00:58:20,400
can get to eighty.

1137
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 2: Seven, yeah you talk about their rebounding Quick Prophet johnson

1138
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,880
did not play over the weekend eight point seven rebounds per.

1139
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,159
Game Bear cherry has been out eight point two rebounds per,

1140
00:58:30,159 --> 00:58:32,199
game so they've basically been out without their two best.

1141
00:58:32,239 --> 00:58:34,840
REBOUNDERS i thought the number was. Big northreidch should crush

1142
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,639
this team like they should win by fifteen to twenty.

1143
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:39,599
Points here AND i think you're gonna hit your team.

1144
00:58:39,639 --> 00:58:41,960
Total and if you hit your team total and My

1145
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:44,559
sianna boys come through, tonight then we'll hit another.

1146
00:58:44,639 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: Parlay parlay's are.

1147
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 2: BACK i think we're up over three units, now so

1148
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,920
today's parlay as we sort of scrambled to get off

1149
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,119
in time for the next, Show sianna plus twenty two

1150
00:58:54,159 --> 00:58:57,599
and a. Half northridge team total over eighty six and a.

1151
00:58:57,639 --> 00:59:02,320
Half hopefully we cash another one. Today we'll be back tomorrow,

1152
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,079
morning ten. Am More Full Court. Press thank you everyone

1153
00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:06,840
for tuning. In we'll see you guys tomorrow