WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.280 --> 00:00:11.039 Malaysian three zero contact went to zero dismal nine. Breaking 2 00:00:11.119 --> 00:00:14.359 news tonight, a Malaysia Airlines flight with two hundred and 3 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:18.679 thirty nine people on board, including four Americans, has gone missing. 4 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:53.359 I remember the line from the Indo scripture of the 5 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:56.240 Bagavad Gita thish New. 6 00:00:58.479 --> 00:01:01.439 I was trying to persuade the prince. 7 00:01:03.119 --> 00:01:08.239 He should do his duty, and to impressed him takes 8 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:14.439 on multi armed form. It says, now I am become death, 9 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:19.560 the destroyer of worlds. 10 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:24.200 Thank you everybody for being here, Thank you for waiting 11 00:01:24.319 --> 00:01:27.319 those who are waiting patiently. I'm Ashon Forbes. This is 12 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:31.879 Hard Trews Podcast. Guys. Today, I once again have probably 13 00:01:31.879 --> 00:01:36.000 our most esteemed guest ever on the show, US Navy 14 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:39.879 engineer Salvator Pais. I hope you guys enjoy the conversation. 15 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:44.200 Here we go, sal brother, welcome to the podcast once again. 16 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:45.799 How are you doing rather? 17 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:48.760 Thank you very much and my apologies again. I tried 18 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:51.959 something new and new my new camera whatever, nothing worked, 19 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:59.040 so go with old. Remember this is just a quick tip. 20 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:03.799 Go with what you know works, especially when things get hot. 21 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:08.280 But anyway, let me give the let me give the disclaimer. 22 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:10.639 Right of the bat so I don't worry about it. 23 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:18.319 I come on your Hard Troops podcast for the third time. Congratulations. Uh, 24 00:02:19.159 --> 00:02:24.759 let's see uh as a private citizen. My opinions, my 25 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:27.639 statements on my own. They have absolutely nothing to do 26 00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:30.479 with the United States Navy nor the United States Space Force. 27 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:34.240 Thank you very much for being such a kind host, 28 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:39.039 and I truly love being in your presence. Just one 29 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:42.159 more thing I would like to throw out there, since 30 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:44.960 we already tried the challenge to elan Moscow and the 31 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:51.159 alternative the the propulsion methodology not using advanced rocketry. As 32 00:02:51.199 --> 00:02:54.800 a matter of fact, possibly you can substantiate on your 33 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:57.520 x platform. You can give the link again as to 34 00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:00.400 our our challenge. You're the one who post did it 35 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:03.080 for me on your ex platform. Thank you very much. Sure, 36 00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:07.520 and anytime any place, I would like to engage with 37 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:12.159 mister Musk and explain to him the alternatives to advanced rocketry. 38 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:14.960 It is a one hundred and twenty year old technology 39 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:18.639 not worthy of let's say, the genius of the third millennium, 40 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:22.639 as he has been dubbed on the several shows. 41 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:25.919 Well, I'll tell you what. Let's go about it like this. 42 00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:28.800 I'll ask you questions and we'll try to use this 43 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:31.800 podcast as a way to convince him that he should 44 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:36.439 be paying attention. Because just one more. 45 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:39.400 Thing, and I promised that after that the floors can 46 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:42.479 I would just answer the questions that you post. I 47 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:45.039 promise you this, But I must say that this has 48 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:46.879 been on the tip of my mind for some time 49 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:51.879 and given the situation, let's say, not just in the 50 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:57.240 world everywhere. Let me just say this, mister Musk, I 51 00:03:57.280 --> 00:04:00.680 make an appeal to you, as a federal employee, on 52 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:04.319 behalf of my brothers and sisters in federal government. Please 53 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:11.159 do not longer fire federal employees. Think and think again 54 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:16.279 before you undergo such acts. We have taken a pledge 55 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:20.160 to the United States Constitution. We protect and serve the 56 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:23.879 people of the United States of America, and I implore 57 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:28.399 you considerate will before you decide to fire us. We 58 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:34.480 actually fulfill a very important row in science and technology 59 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:38.360 and engineering. As a matter of fact, everything I've done, 60 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:43.079 the price effect, the super force, anything that's linked even 61 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:46.279 to the room temperature superconductor, which I am one hundred 62 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:51.120 percent one day will be proven correct. Even that any 63 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:54.120 one of us could have come up with these ideas, 64 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:59.639 there are minds among us that should not be discarded. Please, 65 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:03.600 if you must use a scalpel, not a chainsaw. Thank 66 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:05.639 you very much, sir. I hope that you hear this. 67 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:10.480 I hope Ashton, that your followers make this viral. Thank you, sir. 68 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:16.600 So then let's start with the beginning. Why do you 69 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:19.319 work for the US Navy. 70 00:05:20.759 --> 00:05:23.639 I work for the United States Navy because number one, 71 00:05:23.800 --> 00:05:27.480 I believe it is the strongest arm of the armed forces. 72 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:30.319 It is, as a matter of fact, by constitution, by 73 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:33.920 Act of Congress, the first of the armed forces. It 74 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:41.279 is it it's extremely diverse, from the point of view 75 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:46.279 that it encompasses every aspect of science and technology and engineering. 76 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:51.920 It has an aviation wing, the United States Marines, you 77 00:05:51.959 --> 00:05:54.839 can say, those are its foot soldiers, and of course 78 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:56.759 the Navy itself, so. 79 00:05:57.199 --> 00:06:03.000 Every private company. Though I work for. 80 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:06.319 The United States government to protect and serve the people 81 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:10.079 of the United States of America. I believe in that wholeheartedly. 82 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:14.360 And to me, the greatest, one of the greatest achievements 83 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:19.040 in my life was to become a federal employee. My 84 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:23.399 brother's insistents know this well. We do this not to 85 00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:28.160 make money, but to serve and protect the interests and 86 00:06:28.360 --> 00:06:32.319 the country itself, because the country must prosper, the country 87 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:37.040 must be there forever. This is a nation of divine 88 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:40.000 right and laws. 89 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:42.519 Well, then let me ask you based on your what 90 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:45.279 you just said about Elon Musk, and even if you 91 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:47.720 can't say what it is that you do, that's fine. 92 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:51.360 But why is it that Elon Musk should not fire 93 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:53.680 you if you're concerned about that happening. What is it 94 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:57.959 that you're providing to that to advance what you just 95 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:00.000 said to the people. 96 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:03.959 It is not I, It is my brothers and sisters 97 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:08.319 as a collective again, a force of unification within the 98 00:07:08.360 --> 00:07:17.199 government itself. We are providing again the brain, the brain matter, 99 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:21.879 that the the absolute knowledge that comes with every one 100 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:25.160 of us. Again, there's nothing special about me. Forget about 101 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:27.839 the price effective, forget about the super force, forget about 102 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:32.519 room temperature, super conductivity. All those can actually be achieved 103 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:35.879 by anyone else in the United States government that has 104 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:40.240 that works in these domains. Every one of us has 105 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:44.199 that capability, that level of knowledge. A lot of us 106 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:50.680 have thattoral level knowledge. It is thattoral qualifier PhD qualifier. 107 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:52.319 So then why do they need you. 108 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:57.120 They do not need me, they can take anyone else, 109 00:07:57.279 --> 00:07:59.560 and I'm pretty sure that they can fulfill that raw. 110 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:04.839 I just bring to the table certain ideas. I do 111 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:07.519 have one thing. I don't believe in boxes. I've done 112 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:12.560 away with the boxes. I completely think boxes are not needed. Therefore, 113 00:08:12.600 --> 00:08:15.120 the whole idea of thinking outside the box, to me 114 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:18.120 is a misnomer to begin with, because I do not 115 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:19.079 believe in boxes. 116 00:08:19.079 --> 00:08:22.759 See so let me ask you this thing, because I disagree. 117 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:26.480 I don't think you're that replaceable. Why did the US 118 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:31.720 Navy support and approve get your patents approved? Because the 119 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:33.480 truth of the story is, if you if you guys 120 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:35.919 haven't caught up watched Hart Trood's podcast number one and two. 121 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:38.759 I don't want to rehash the whole thing, but basically, 122 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:43.159 only three of five of the five patents by Salvag 123 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:45.000 or Pace in the US Navy were approved, and they 124 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:47.399 had to fight for them, and they had like the 125 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:51.399 chief technology guy like basically Sala's boss or his boss 126 00:08:51.399 --> 00:08:53.840 and boss. However, it worked out and one of the 127 00:08:53.919 --> 00:08:57.000 lawyers sending letters saying the stuff was you know, operable 128 00:08:57.240 --> 00:08:59.720 or you know, depending on the exact wordplay, that the 129 00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:04.759 stuff was legit. So why was the Navy fighting so 130 00:09:04.840 --> 00:09:07.200 hard for those patents. 131 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:13.200 First of all, let me name the name. His name 132 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:19.200 is doctor James Sheehy, Chief Technology Officer of Naval Aviation Enterprises. 133 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:22.559 A great man, a man that shall be remembered by history, 134 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:26.679 for he deserves to be remembered by history. He is 135 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:30.360 a man of great integrity. I was able to present. 136 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:33.799 I went to the blackboard, I would you know, forget 137 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:35.879 this dryer race board, and stopped through the blackboard the 138 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:38.559 piece of chalk in my mouth, in my mouth. Yeah, 139 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:40.519 actually I held it in my mouth for a little while, 140 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:44.159 but anyway, in my hand. I actually went to the blackboard, 141 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:47.679 put down Maxwell's equations, the four equations four known so 142 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:50.559 again heavy side version of Maxwell's equations, and from there 143 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:54.440 I was able to derive what is understood as the 144 00:09:54.440 --> 00:10:00.840 police effect. Once he saw the fundamental, the fundamental behind it. 145 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:03.399 When he understood exactly how I was going to put 146 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:06.519 it in practice and what the applications would be. Doctor 147 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:11.039 Shihi was not only intelligent enough, but a visionary. He 148 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:16.840 was able to foresee the possibilities, and five patent applications 149 00:10:17.080 --> 00:10:21.840 came out of it. They went through the invention evaluation board. 150 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:25.080 Now you must understand the Invention Evaluation Board is made 151 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:28.840 of the kreme de la creme of Navire. We're talking 152 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:32.600 about highly technical skilled, many of them having we had 153 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:38.399 quantum physicists, with quantum chemists with doctorates with the mechanical, 154 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:44.240 aerospace engineering, electrical engineering as well. So, and there's one 155 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:47.840 thing that I will disclose because I never signed an NDA, 156 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:51.559 so why not in the sum of twenty nineteen, a 157 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:57.320 technical committee, a technical staffing committee, highly placed. We talked 158 00:10:57.320 --> 00:11:00.639 about gs fifteens and higher and the s yes. But 159 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:04.360 these are people of extreme importance within the government because 160 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:08.840 everyone in government listens to these individuals. They are the 161 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:12.399 kreme de la creme of the technical and science community 162 00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:17.159 within the staffing officer, staffing office for the Senate, the 163 00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:22.720 Senate Armed Service Committee we're talking about anyway, these are 164 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:27.399 the guys that prevented Hitler from taking over the world. 165 00:11:27.639 --> 00:11:33.480 But anyway, uh so, the bottom line is this, four 166 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:37.720 of them, I will not name names. They know who 167 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:44.759 they are. Four of them went to Navit Pattason River 168 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:48.919 and spoke to all to certain members, certain key members 169 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:53.399 of the Invention Evaluation Board, including doctor James Sheety, and 170 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:57.080 at the end of the day they were convinced that 171 00:11:57.200 --> 00:12:01.559 the pace of effect had future. One of them, the 172 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:04.919 person that led the technical staffing committee, called me at 173 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:07.200 six point thirty that night to let me know that 174 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:12.480 things are coming my way. Possibility of a team and 175 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:18.200 a laboratory would be in motion. Certain things were done, 176 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:22.159 certain things were said, Politics intervened, and I never got 177 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:29.240 my lab in my team. But that's another story, so interesting. 178 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:35.000 So just to rehash that twenty nineteen, some technical committee 179 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:39.720 was formed and supposedly this has to do with it, 180 00:12:39.799 --> 00:12:42.600 sounds like because this was after the patents already approved, right, 181 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:45.679 So this was then to get you a team to review, 182 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:47.759 to take this science the next level, to take yourself 183 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:48.799 in next level? Is that what I'm here? 184 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:52.039 But as a matter of fact, the third pattern had 185 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:55.360 just been approved, The high frequency gravitation way generator had 186 00:12:55.399 --> 00:12:59.320 just been approved as a first action, unheard of, unheard of, 187 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:03.720 such controversial pattern. You know that one well, because you 188 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:07.399 were the one who was great enough to put it 189 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:09.240 on your X platform. As a matter of fact, it 190 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:11.720 got like over a million views. It was the biggest 191 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:13.960 of the papers. So thank you very much. 192 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:17.080 Ash. Now you think, let me ask, because people are 193 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:18.840 gonna ask me, and I don't want to wait for 194 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:21.440 heart Trews number four for the answer is was hal 195 00:13:21.480 --> 00:13:26.360 put Off? I'm part of that committee, that group of scientists. 196 00:13:25.960 --> 00:13:28.360 As far as I know, No, sir, these were all 197 00:13:30.360 --> 00:13:36.919 part of the Senate Technical Committee. They were highly placed staffers. 198 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:39.320 So we talked about GS. Fifteen and above. 199 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:43.919 Do you believe that? Yeah? Do you believe the US 200 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:47.399 Navy already has the technology and those patents available even 201 00:13:47.399 --> 00:13:49.399 if you didn't make it, maybe by somebody else. 202 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:57.960 Sir, I have no idea. However, you have to understand 203 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:01.120 when I saw the M three seven, the videos when 204 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:04.720 we had our first My god, it seems like such 205 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:07.240 a long time ago, and yet it seems like yesterday. 206 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:10.440 It's amazing what you've been able to achieve in such 207 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:13.799 a short period of time. Congratulations, brother, kudos to you. 208 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:20.159 You deserve it. Look, the bottom line is this, I 209 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:26.919 do not believe those videos are false. I think they're 210 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:30.559 not only are they the real thing, but it's amazing 211 00:14:31.080 --> 00:14:34.519 whoever did it, it's truly should be regarded as a 212 00:14:34.639 --> 00:14:35.360 national hero. 213 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:39.279 Well, you know, the thing is like like you know 214 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:44.240 who I'm blaming though, right, Like everything points the US Navy. 215 00:14:45.159 --> 00:14:47.799 So it turns out you you work for them, you know. 216 00:14:47.879 --> 00:14:49.840 So I'm kind of going like in my head. 217 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:54.159 As a ravage citizen, since I'm coming. 218 00:14:53.879 --> 00:14:59.919 As a citizen. Absolutely I choose and I don't want Yeah, 219 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:02.440 I don't want you to disclose anything that's inappropriate in 220 00:15:02.440 --> 00:15:04.759 any way, shape or form. I say that as somebody 221 00:15:04.759 --> 00:15:06.679 else's at American. 222 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:10.679 But that is my own. It is based on science 223 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:13.840 and technology that I developed on my own from papers 224 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:17.200 that I've read. It is true that the most influential 225 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:20.480 book I've read from which all the policies affect ideas 226 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:25.159 truly stem from, are Frontiers and Propulsion Science, the one 227 00:15:25.159 --> 00:15:29.200 that's edited by Mark Millis and Eric W. Davis. And 228 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:33.840 that's why I hold back to Davis and such high esteem. However, 229 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:39.240 I must say he was one person, let's just say, 230 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:43.279 highly placed, that was asked at the time by someone 231 00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:50.360 in the aforementioned committee via another individual at the Office 232 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:53.480 of Naval Intelligence who shall remain unnamed. Even though he's 233 00:15:53.559 --> 00:15:58.000 retired now there's no point in rehashing these things. However, 234 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:00.360 Eric W. Davis is one of the key people that 235 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:05.320 basically said no to me getting a theme, And yeah, 236 00:16:05.399 --> 00:16:06.000 that makes sense. 237 00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:08.919 I mean he was the gatekeeper right that blocked your stuff, 238 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:11.360 and it seems like he's a gatekeeper in general for 239 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:13.799 some of this technology. But I mean the story you 240 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:16.000 just told though, is that you said doctor she he 241 00:16:16.919 --> 00:16:19.159 is you know the way you said it to me. 242 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:22.200 In my head, I'm going, oh, well, doctor she He 243 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:25.200 knew something was going on because when you say, oh, 244 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:27.759 I was just able to convince doctor Shehy to see 245 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:31.840 the light about anti gravity technology. I'm going, nah, that's 246 00:16:31.879 --> 00:16:33.879 never how it's worked out when I've interacted with people. 247 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:36.039 The only time that worked out is that they already 248 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:37.320 know that it's real ahead of time. 249 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:40.559 The notion, the notion of gravity control. You and I 250 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:44.519 don't use words like anti gravity anymore. You and I 251 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:48.799 know better. The notion of gravity control never came up. 252 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:53.360 As a matter of fact, it the one application that 253 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:57.679 I stressed was against the room temperature super conductivity because 254 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:01.080 it speaks directly to the London equint. There's a paper 255 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:05.559 out there, an AI double, A paper twenty nineteen A double. 256 00:17:05.559 --> 00:17:08.200 As a matter of fact, some of its finding were 257 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:12.559 presented at the side Tech twenty nineteen conference. Now I 258 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:16.680 send you those slides. Please please post them to your 259 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:20.920 ex and in this chat, so everybody has them that 260 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:26.839 twenty nineteen AI Double a Side Tech conference presentation is 261 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:33.119 extremely important. Slides four two slides nine of slides four, five, six, seven, 262 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:40.839 eight nine are incredibly foundational to disruptive technology. One of them, 263 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:47.480 I believe slight four speaks to actually solving the vacuum catastrophe. 264 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:50.440 And you and I can go further into this if 265 00:17:50.440 --> 00:17:55.000 you choose to whereby it by a simple equivalence, and 266 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:59.799 you now know this physics of the Boltzmann energy with 267 00:17:59.880 --> 00:18:04.799 a Plank energy, you can say that the space h 268 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:14.119 I it's one down, Try one down? 269 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:16.400 Which slide slide for they don't have numbers on. 270 00:18:16.759 --> 00:18:20.400 Yeah, start from the beginning, go all the way up 271 00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:21.480 to the like the. 272 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:24.279 Oh okay, yeah, I was too far. So this is 273 00:18:24.279 --> 00:18:26.799 probably a slide like somewhere in here is where you are. 274 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:30.880 Talking about it's solving the vacuum catastrophe? Is this one? 275 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:34.960 You almost have it there? All right? Look carefully at it. 276 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:39.000 It talks about the equivalents of the Boltzmann energy with 277 00:18:39.079 --> 00:18:42.200 a Plank energy, and from it you can get a 278 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:47.160 space a space cell configuration with the attributes. Do you 279 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:51.079 see the attributes? Its characteristic length and the order of 280 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:54.319 ten to the minus four meters, and what does it 281 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:59.480 speak to vibrational frequencies and the terror herds order? Now 282 00:18:59.839 --> 00:19:05.079 do you see remember the third by by Eric W. Davis. 283 00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:09.480 He mentioned a macroscopic dimension on the order of ten 284 00:19:09.559 --> 00:19:14.160 to the minus four meters, and who mentioned the terror 285 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:17.000 herds frequencies. I believe it was back to how futo? 286 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:21.799 So are you saying here, though, because I remember I 287 00:19:21.839 --> 00:19:24.279 reviewed that on stream. I think I'm pretty sure I 288 00:19:24.279 --> 00:19:28.519 reviewed this on stream a few weeks ago. And the 289 00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:32.079 part here is interesting is that the Boltzmann distribution has 290 00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:35.319 to do with thermal energy. But here when we're talking 291 00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:40.079 about plank scale, we're really dealing about like the vibrational 292 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:43.079 energy of space time itself. Right. 293 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:48.279 This incredible because this is the first time a classical 294 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:58.640 expression K sabbt is equivalent equals a quantum energy formalism, 295 00:19:58.720 --> 00:20:02.920 namely the plank energy, and you don't get infinities. As 296 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:06.759 a matter of fact, it speaks to I believe that 297 00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:10.480 the problem resides everybody thinks of the plank scale, and 298 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:13.920 it's true, certain very important things happen at the plank scale. 299 00:20:13.920 --> 00:20:17.720 For example, the existence of the super force. However, to 300 00:20:17.960 --> 00:20:23.319 be able to blend the classical realm into the quantum realm, 301 00:20:24.119 --> 00:20:29.440 you see, it is that it's a the difference. A 302 00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:33.720 difference reference length must be used, and this comes out 303 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:37.480 of this equivalence. It is tend to the minus four meters, 304 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:42.480 which happens to be the size of a macroscopic other dimension, 305 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:47.759 a fifth dimension, And it's interesting that that frequency should 306 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:51.240 be related to it. Anyway. 307 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:55.480 Yeah, you want a little bit over my head, but 308 00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:59.240 I understand the context here, you know. So for the viewers, 309 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:04.039 if you're not initiated, the vacuum catastrophe is we're trying 310 00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:07.039 to decide why the energy that we see is the 311 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:12.559 cosmic microwave background, Why that's one hundred and something orders 312 00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:17.559 of magnitude less than what we get when we calculate 313 00:21:17.839 --> 00:21:22.319 the energy based on quantum mechanics that should exist. So 314 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:27.480 here cells basically trying to figure out how these two 315 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:31.160 things can relate. So the relationship between the thermal energy 316 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:36.640 versus the vibrational energy at the plank scale, and the 317 00:21:36.680 --> 00:21:37.920 part I understand. 318 00:21:37.640 --> 00:21:40.200 Is that that's the whole thing. It's not at the 319 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:42.240 planks heat, it's at the space cell. 320 00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:46.720 Ah when you make a cell of space, and you 321 00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:49.759 take that amount of energy in a cell of space. Yeah, 322 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:51.960 but let me ask one more question here, because then 323 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:53.839 you say this is the part that didn't fully understand. 324 00:21:54.240 --> 00:21:57.519 I'm glad we're talking about this. You say, simple calculation 325 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:01.079 results in vacuum mass density of ten to the minus 326 00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:05.200 twenty seven kilograms per meter cube, in good agreement with 327 00:22:05.480 --> 00:22:09.160 eric experimental data obtained from the Plank's satellite. 328 00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:14.400 Correct. I don't know, and Plank have shown those mass densities. 329 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:17.720 So we're talking about very low energy density compared to 330 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:21.519 what they think is inside. You know, the whole idea 331 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:25.119 that inside a coup of tea or cop of whatever, 332 00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:30.039 you can boil entire Earth oceans? 333 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:32.079 Are you saying that that's correct? 334 00:22:35.599 --> 00:22:40.400 Again, I believe the error resides in them using the 335 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:46.680 Plank scale. I believe the two the classical realm and 336 00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:52.000 the quantum realm actually meet at this other reference scale. 337 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:55.559 Let's call it a space cell for want of a 338 00:22:55.599 --> 00:23:01.880 better idea, some sort of spatial temporal metric structure within 339 00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:06.559 space time itself. But at that point that reference a 340 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:14.319 characteristic size, the classical and the quantum regimes fuse. They 341 00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:19.279 melt into one another. That's why I think it's so important. 342 00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:24.319 Okay, So that's the conceptual viewpoint, is that they mesh 343 00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:27.759 into one another in an extra spatial dimension similar to 344 00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:29.880 clusive cliente. Is that what you're getting. 345 00:23:29.559 --> 00:23:30.880 At quite possible? 346 00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:35.000 Yes, okay, okay, uh, you know I agree with that already. 347 00:23:35.039 --> 00:23:38.400 I'm a big clusive client supporter. So I'll leave this 348 00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:39.960 up in the background for your condis I have a 349 00:23:39.960 --> 00:23:42.720 few more questions that I want to ask you, just 350 00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:45.839 like about it and what have you and your and 351 00:23:45.880 --> 00:23:48.079 of course isn't just your opinion as a private citizen. 352 00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:51.759 Of course, yes, absolutely, And then and then of course 353 00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:54.119 we can geek out on the physics and the science. 354 00:23:56.240 --> 00:23:59.880 So would you testify to Congress at one of these 355 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:02.599 hearings or all of these task forces that anapoline a 356 00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:04.759 Luna is doing if you were asked? 357 00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:07.480 Of course, I mean this is Congress. I would be 358 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:10.200 in contempt of Congress if I would not do so 359 00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:12.720 if asked. It'd be great if I could get a 360 00:24:12.839 --> 00:24:17.279 right there, because there's certain issues that you know, things 361 00:24:17.319 --> 00:24:21.279 that have occurred that I'd rather not go into. So yeah, 362 00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:26.319 i'd appreciate it, right rather than that, absolutely, And what. 363 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:28.200 Would be your main message, what would you be wanting 364 00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:29.559 to disclose to people. 365 00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:38.000 That we don't need to reverse engineer let's say, things 366 00:24:38.039 --> 00:24:43.279 that we're found in the desert, subterranean, under the pyramids, whatnot. 367 00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:50.680 We don't need these things. The human ingenuity, human mind 368 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:56.200 can uncover, can discover these things on our own. We 369 00:24:56.359 --> 00:25:02.279 do not need et tech. We should rely man made technologies. 370 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:04.000 That all. 371 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:07.559 I love it. That's that's my favorite. I don't think 372 00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:09.359 a lot of people would expected you to say that, 373 00:25:09.559 --> 00:25:14.039 but truthfully, like that's a narrative that does not get 374 00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:17.119 promoted enough. And I do hope that the next UFO 375 00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:21.319 hearing is more about what what have we as humanity 376 00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:23.480 human have been able to figure out in the last 377 00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:26.680 seventy years. So there's a few more questions that are 378 00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:29.160 going to get to that here in a minute, but 379 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:30.200 I want to ask them more. 380 00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:34.880 Physics speaks to eighteen ninety five all of a heavy 381 00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:38.039 sized version of Maxwell's equation because the harmonic iscillator was 382 00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:42.119 already no way prior to that. Maxwell's equations are based 383 00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:47.440 on a cellular vertical formula formation within the e quote 384 00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:51.480 unquote ether. So you know that I prefer quantum vacuum 385 00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:55.119 of vacuum energy state. But that's my Yeah, it's a right. 386 00:25:55.160 --> 00:25:56.880 It's just a matter of semantics. I think as long 387 00:25:56.920 --> 00:25:59.880 as everybody understands what we're conceptually talking about the same things, 388 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:01.960 and people can call it whatever they want to call it, 389 00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:05.559 in my opinion. So your point there is that if 390 00:26:05.559 --> 00:26:08.759 you were to testify, you would want to tell people that, hey, 391 00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:13.920 we have this my patents, your patents, that your UFO patents. 392 00:26:13.960 --> 00:26:17.599 Actually you're not those patents aren't because you want to 393 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:20.880 prove that Roswell happened or whatever. You're trying to explain 394 00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:25.519 that the equations in math have been out there since 395 00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:27.839 the early nineteen hund depends on if you're going with 396 00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:29.640 general relativity, if you're going all the way back to 397 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:38.039 quaternions and you know Maxwell's equations, right, Yes, Okay, great, 398 00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:39.960 I mean that's awesome. I hope that you do it 399 00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:41.359 and get a chance. Now. I have a few more 400 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:47.400 questions just about your opinions on like military capabilities in 401 00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:50.839