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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Jeffrey Epstein Show. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>your host, Bobby Capucci, and this is a morning update.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up everyone in Greetings from Sin City. So I

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<v Speaker 1>told you as soon as they hired Marty Singer and

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Brettler over at Team Joe Exotic of the Winsor

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<v Speaker 1>Family that the full court press would begin. They would

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<v Speaker 1>start their attacks on Virginia and folks. It's almost as

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<v Speaker 1>if I know what I'm talking about. In the new

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<v Speaker 1>filing that has been filed with the courts by Prince

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew's team, they're basically calling her a money grubber, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who's just looking for a payday. Now, that's all fine

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<v Speaker 1>and well to say, but you better have the receipts.

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<v Speaker 1>And it certainly doesn't look like the Joe Exotic of

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<v Speaker 1>the Windsor Family possesses any of those. Instead, what he

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<v Speaker 1>possesses is a big fan and a bunch of lies.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I was at the pizza place. Oh I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know Virginia. Oh I've never met her. Yeah, why are

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<v Speaker 1>you sending Gallan Maxwell emails about her? Why is there

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<v Speaker 1>a picture with your hand around her waist? With the

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<v Speaker 1>brazenness at which they attempt to lie to us on

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<v Speaker 1>a regular basis is unbelievable. And the fact that people

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<v Speaker 1>still buy this bullshit is just beyond me. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how anyone can look at this situation and not

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<v Speaker 1>see Prince Andrew for the scoundrel ass mfe is This

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<v Speaker 1>dude is just disgusting. You have daughters, bro, What are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing? How would you feel if the roles were

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<v Speaker 1>reversed and this was your daughter? Is this what you

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<v Speaker 1>would tell your lawyer? You want your lawyers to say

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<v Speaker 1>about her? What's next? They're gonna say that Virginia I

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<v Speaker 1>had a beer one time. Oh no, oh, Virginia smoked

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<v Speaker 1>a cigarette. It is all just so fucking absurd. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>an idea. Let's go to court and let's see. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to do that, do you. No. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a game of technicalities and loopholes. And now they're going

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<v Speaker 1>with the scorched earth theory. Well, folks, I told you

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<v Speaker 1>this was coming, and guess what if I knew it

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<v Speaker 1>was coming, you better believe that Virginia's lawyers knew it

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<v Speaker 1>was coming, So they're gonna be prepared for this, I

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<v Speaker 1>would guess, But me personally. You already know I have

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<v Speaker 1>a few things to say. So let's jump into this

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<v Speaker 1>article from The Guardian and let's see what they have

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<v Speaker 1>to say about this situation. Doesn't seem to have an

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<v Speaker 1>author's name here for this article, so I'm guessing it's

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<v Speaker 1>a staff article. So there you are headline. Prince Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>asked US judge to dismiss lawsuit alleging sexual abuse. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course he does, and I get it right. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go to court either. If I was him,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be doing everything in the world I possibly could

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that I wasn't going to court either,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if I knew I did something wrong. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he knows what's up. What do you think he's sitting there.

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<v Speaker 1>He has himself fooled. He might have some other people fooled,

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<v Speaker 1>but he ain't fool in himself. He knows what he did.

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<v Speaker 1>The Joe Exotic of the Windsor family has asked the

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<v Speaker 1>US judge to dismiss Virginia Robert's civil lawsuit accusing him

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<v Speaker 1>of sexually abusing her when she was seventeen, in a

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<v Speaker 1>filing with the US District Court in Manhattan on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>the Duke of York, said that case should be dismissed

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<v Speaker 1>because Roberts failed to state a claim warranting relief. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>technicalities and loopholes. This is what they're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Their whole, entire goal is to never be in front

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<v Speaker 1>of a judge, never to answer any questions, never to

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<v Speaker 1>give a deposition, and certainly never to go under oath.

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen the way this moron was stumbling around his

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<v Speaker 1>words with Emily Maitliss, wearing kid gloves with him. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine if he was sitting down with a real interrogator,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who didn't give a fly an f that he

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<v Speaker 1>was a prince, somebody who just wanted to extract answers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna work out well. So of course his team

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<v Speaker 1>of high profile shit talking lawyers are gonna do everything

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<v Speaker 1>they can to keep his repugnant ass away from anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. He also said that if dismissal were not granted,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert should provide a more definitive statement of her allegations.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what exactly is it that you want, mister prince?

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<v Speaker 1>You want a full accounting of what happened? Why don't

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<v Speaker 1>we ask Maxwell why don't we call Glenn Maxwell to

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<v Speaker 1>the stand and see which she has to say. This

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<v Speaker 1>guy is the biggest ninni in the history of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And every time I look at his dumb ass face

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<v Speaker 1>and the stupid ass expressions on it, on that dumb face,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to vomit. This man is an absolute sore

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<v Speaker 1>on the underbelly of the UK and an embarrassment. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>We have plenty of embarrassments here in America, have you

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt? But this guy, Oh, he's right up there

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<v Speaker 1>with with our best. An absolute piece of garbage. The document,

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<v Speaker 1>signed by lawyer Andrew Brettler, said, accusing a member of

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<v Speaker 1>the world's best known royal family of serious misconduct has

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<v Speaker 1>helped Roberts create a media frenzy online and in the

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<v Speaker 1>traditional press. It is unfortunate but undeniable that sensationalism and

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<v Speaker 1>nuendo have prevailed over the truth. What is the truth,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Bretler. We've been trying to get to it forever. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden you come in and you're the

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<v Speaker 1>arbiter of truth. I got news for you, Hollywood, Not

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<v Speaker 1>this time around. Pal. You're not intimidating nobody. Nobody's scared

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<v Speaker 1>of you. I'm certainly not scared of any of you clowns.

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<v Speaker 1>You people are the biggest kinds of bullies on earth,

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<v Speaker 1>and the people that I can't stand the most. To

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<v Speaker 1>sit here and try and demeanor the way you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>it in the news is exactly what I expected. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I did that whole entire two part episode

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<v Speaker 1>about Marty Singer and Brettler and this whole entire law firm.

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<v Speaker 1>This is their mo They think that this is the

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<v Speaker 1>proper way to go about it, because when you're dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with Hollywood, this usually is the right way to go

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But they're making a critical error. This time.

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<v Speaker 1>The ship is sailed. The days of victim blaming are over.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody's down with that now, except for like some in

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<v Speaker 1>cells and some weirdos. Even people who a few years

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<v Speaker 1>ago might have looked the other way are not anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone sickened by you, Joe Exotic of the Windsor family,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're certainly all sickened by your lawyer's attempt here

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<v Speaker 1>to demean Virginia. And if they thought that this was

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna pass by the wayside without an absolute evisceration,

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<v Speaker 1>they have not been paying attention. Roberts has initiated this

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<v Speaker 1>baseless lawsuit against Joe Exotic of the Windsor family to

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<v Speaker 1>achieve another payday at his expense and at the expense

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<v Speaker 1>of those closest to him. Epstein's abuse of Roberts does

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<v Speaker 1>not justify her public campaign against Prince Andrew. Hey, Brettler,

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<v Speaker 1>what if it was your daughter? How about that, buddy?

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<v Speaker 1>Would that justify it? Then you are an absolute clown Brettler. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>your whole law firm full of clowns? Do you do

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<v Speaker 1>all of you drive together in one car and then

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<v Speaker 1>pile out eleven deep dent d d d N dent dent.

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<v Speaker 1>Now is that your entrance music? Going after somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>has been through what this poor girl has been through,

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<v Speaker 1>and to try and to mean her as a liar

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<v Speaker 1>like this, There's no other way to go about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't perform your job with a little more decency.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, you can't. Rattlesnake ass serpent MF. Lawyers for

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<v Speaker 1>Roberts did not immediately respond to a requests for comment.

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<v Speaker 1>Roberts thirty eight, who is one of Epstein's most prominent accusers,

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<v Speaker 1>sued Andrew for unspecified damages in August, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>what the kicker is, Virginia wouldn't have to sue him

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<v Speaker 1>for damages if the law enforcement would have just done

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<v Speaker 1>their job from the get go. You know what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of different conversation this all is if law enforcement did

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<v Speaker 1>their job, If they had some a steal in their

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<v Speaker 1>spine and they slapped him with Rico or her with

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<v Speaker 1>Rico the same way they did with Keith rayin Neery,

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<v Speaker 1>the same way they did with r. Kelly. What it's

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<v Speaker 1>not good enough for Maxwell? Then you could have alleviated

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<v Speaker 1>all of this bullshit and he would be looking at

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<v Speaker 1>Rico predicates folks, not a civil case. And then I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to see how much Yap and Bretler would be doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not as much because Rico is the manna of

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<v Speaker 1>the gods. When it comes to tools that the government

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<v Speaker 1>has in their toolbox. Why do you think they use

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<v Speaker 1>it against every single Italian person that goes in front

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<v Speaker 1>of them? But no, not for this. Not If you're

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<v Speaker 1>a molester. You want to be involved in sports gambling,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's going to be seven years. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>molest girls and be part of a trafficking organization, no

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<v Speaker 1>big deal. As long as you're a prince, Well guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck him, fuck that, and fuck the royal family. Roberts

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<v Speaker 1>also accused Andrew of abusing her at Epstein's mansion in

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<v Speaker 1>Manhattan and on one of Epstein's private islands in the

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<v Speaker 1>US Virgin Islands. Andrew sixty one, a former friend of Epstein, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it is bis bff. Okay, who flies across the pond

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<v Speaker 1>to break up with a dude? Unless you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with him, then that's a different story. Then I

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<v Speaker 1>get it. You're his friend, you're the Prince of England.

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<v Speaker 1>You're flying across the pond to go and break up

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<v Speaker 1>with a child molester in person? Oh okay, Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a hell of a guy. You're exactly who i'd want

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<v Speaker 1>to be representing my country. You desc gusting excuse for

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<v Speaker 1>a man, Andrew sixty one, excuse me a past there.

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<v Speaker 1>The prince, who is the Queen's second son, gave up

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<v Speaker 1>many royal duties and lost support from charities and organizations

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<v Speaker 1>after a disastrous November twenty nineteen interview in which he

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<v Speaker 1>did not appear as sympathetic towards Epstein's survivors. Well, this

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<v Speaker 1>just reinforces that right. If he was sympathetic, don't you

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<v Speaker 1>think he would have said to his lawyer's, look, where's

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<v Speaker 1>some gloves here? Guys, be a little cautious. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want victim blaming going on. Defend me, but no. So

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<v Speaker 1>it just goes to show you that he didn't care

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<v Speaker 1>then and he certainly doesn't care now. Just another piece

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<v Speaker 1>of disinformation about how you know he cares so much. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he he's so worried about the survivors, not him or

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<v Speaker 1>the Royal family. They haven't done a thing, lifted one

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<v Speaker 1>single finger to try and help these survivors. Not one

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<v Speaker 1>has the Royal family made a donation to a human

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<v Speaker 1>trafficking organization? Well, I mean, why would they do that

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<v Speaker 1>considering their family member is part of a human trafficking ring.

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<v Speaker 1>Never mind the fact that he's hanging out with Nyguard

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<v Speaker 1>or arms dealers or anyone else. But there's a real

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<v Speaker 1>good guy. So if we're calling Virginia's character into question,

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<v Speaker 1>then you better damn well believe that Prince Andrew, the

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Exotic of the Windsor family can count on getting

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<v Speaker 1>dragged on this podcast on a regular basis. Run home

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<v Speaker 1>and tell that a lawyer for Roberts, told the Daily

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<v Speaker 1>Telegraph the Duke's newsnight interview where he discussed the allegations,

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<v Speaker 1>will form part of the case against him. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that monstrosity of an interview. Fuck a crash. That's the Hindenburg, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the Titanic hitting an iceberg. This dumb moron gets

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<v Speaker 1>up there, drooling all over himself, looking the fool. Then

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<v Speaker 1>he has the audacity to call somebody else a liar.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay. Sigared McAuley was quoted in the paper saying, frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>it was very helpful for us. I don't know who

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<v Speaker 1>very wrong move on his part to expose himself in

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<v Speaker 1>that way. Yeah, it was talk about a blunder, big

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<v Speaker 1>time blunder. And now his two thousand dollars an hour lawyers,

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<v Speaker 1>well they're here to pick up the pieces. Well, good luck.

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<v Speaker 1>At a hearing last month, Brettler told the US district

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Lewis Kaplan, who oversees Robert's case, that he believed

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<v Speaker 1>the settlement agreement absolves our client from any and all liability.

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<v Speaker 1>David boy is one of Robert's lawyers has said he

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<v Speaker 1>considered the agreement irrelevant to Robert's case, and I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure that this document is irrelevant. I highly doubt it's

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Exotic of the Windsor family. But we'll have to see.

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<v Speaker 1>The next hearing is scheduled for the third of November.

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<v Speaker 1>Roberts was sued separately for twenty million dollars on Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>So you brought women to Epstein as an adult, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're not a recruiter. Huh, Okay, sure, I guess. The

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<v Speaker 1>artist Rina o Amman or Amen whatever, sued over tweets

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<v Speaker 1>Amon called the tweets maliciously false and said Epstein also

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<v Speaker 1>trial on sex trafficking charges. Here's an interesting question, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have no proof of that, just a question. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you're dealing with the people who are dealing with,

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<v Speaker 1>all bets are off, folks. There's nothing that is off

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<v Speaker 1>the table when you're talking about Jeffrey Epstein's criminal enterprise

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<v Speaker 1>or the remnants of it, And that is exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about. And Prince Andrew, you were part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You were there, and according to Virginia, not only were

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<v Speaker 1>you there, you took part in the abuse. So no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what your boy Brettler has to say, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>how many people you can dig up to file lawsuits,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna be enough because at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, you know what matters, not your technicalities, not

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<v Speaker 1>your loopholes, and certainly not your two thousand dollars an

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<v Speaker 1>hour lawyer. The truth matters. And when you get in

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<v Speaker 1>front of that jury, then we'll see who's really the liar.

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<v Speaker 1>If you'd like to contact me. You can do that

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<v Speaker 1>at Bobby Kopuchi at ProtonMail dot com. That's Bo Bby

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<v Speaker 1>c ap u Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You can

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<v Speaker 1>also find me on Twitter at Bobby underscore c ap

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<v Speaker 1>u Cci. The link that we discussed can be found

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<v Speaker 1>in the description box. As for me, well, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back later on folks, and you well keep the flags

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<v Speaker 1>of discontent flying. Hello everyone, and welcome to the Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>a morning update. What's up everybody in greetings from Sin City. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to continue talking about Prince Andrew a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more and add a little bit more context, a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more meat to the bone. Now we left

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<v Speaker 1>it off yesterday. The phone call occurred. Prince Andrew has

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<v Speaker 1>a high profile Hollywood lawyer on tab to protect him,

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<v Speaker 1>and according to Prince Andrew and his new lawyer, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't served properly. Now the judge, Judge Kaplan, is

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<v Speaker 1>not really looking to deal with any bullshit. It seems

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<v Speaker 1>like in this case, he already hammered them yesterday telling

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<v Speaker 1>them that they were making this way more complicated than

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<v Speaker 1>it needed to be and basically telling them that they're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be able to obfuscate here. They're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to come correct and they're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to provide some information to the court because these judges,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you right now, I am telling you, they

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<v Speaker 1>do not like to feel disrespected. You want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about narcissism, you want to talk about narcissists, Go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and look at the bench and the judges that sit

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<v Speaker 1>on these benches, and not all of them, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't deal in absolutes like other people. That's for

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<v Speaker 1>the Sith, but for me. You look at a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these judges and they really really wield a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of power. I mean even you look in like the

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<v Speaker 1>family courts situation and how these judges wield extreme power

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<v Speaker 1>over situations of children being moved from homes and this,

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<v Speaker 1>that the other thing, and there's really not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of oversight. So you start messing around with these judges

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<v Speaker 1>and you think you're gonna pull a fast one on

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<v Speaker 1>them because y'all the Prince of England, Well you're really

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<v Speaker 1>making a big mistake. Now if you get in front

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<v Speaker 1>of these judges and you know, you give them their

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<v Speaker 1>proper respect then whatever's whatever. But I'm talking about if

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<v Speaker 1>you just try and ignore what a judge's telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>if you try and ignore a case that you've been

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<v Speaker 1>summons you've received a summons to forget it. These judges

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna go ham on you. I believe the saying

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<v Speaker 1>used to be they'll go medieval on that ass. And

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Kaplan doesn't seem like he's going to want to

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<v Speaker 1>mess around with these technicalities in this BS right, and

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<v Speaker 1>why should he. There's been ample time for the Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Exotic of the Windsor family to step up to the

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<v Speaker 1>plate and do the right thing, but he continuously acts

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<v Speaker 1>like the coward that he is, hides ducks behind mommy

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<v Speaker 1>and refuses to answer any questions whatsoever. So the talk

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<v Speaker 1>going into this was that that might have been the

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<v Speaker 1>strategy that he was going to employ. I told you

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<v Speaker 1>all here I thought that was a bad idea, and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously his legal team did as well, considering they employed

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<v Speaker 1>mister Hollywood. So there's a quick recap of what went

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<v Speaker 1>on on that phone call yesterday and what we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about yesterday, I should say, And today we have an

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<v Speaker 1>article from the Sun, and I'm sure there'll be a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of gold nuggets in here to help add a

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<v Speaker 1>meat on the bone. So let's jump into this article

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<v Speaker 1>from the US Sun and let's see what author Niemma

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<v Speaker 1>Kavanaugh has to say headline, face up, Prince Andrew could

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<v Speaker 1>be forced to give evidence if he dodges Virginia Roberts

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<v Speaker 1>rape claims, says Epstein, victim's lawyer. Let's look caveat there, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be talking about Lisa Bloom in this article.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I could hear you all sighing and rolling

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<v Speaker 1>your eyes from there. I agree. But when we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this situation and we're talking about Prince Andrew again,

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<v Speaker 1>every one of these articles will offer up a golden

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<v Speaker 1>nugget or two. And as much as I dislike Lisa Bloom,

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<v Speaker 1>a broken clock is right twice a day even, and

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<v Speaker 1>what she's saying here is correct. So let's jump into

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<v Speaker 1>this article and let's see what's what. Prince Andrew could

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<v Speaker 1>be forced to give evidence if he continues to dodge

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<v Speaker 1>and duck Virginia Roberts rape claims. The lawyer representing Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein's survivors has said that's kind of a broad statement.

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa Bloom is representing a few survivors, but to say

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<v Speaker 1>she's representing these survivors is a bit of a stretch. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I think of lawyers representing survivors of Jeffrey Epstein,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously we think about Bradley Edwards, David Boys, Cigarette McCauley,

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<v Speaker 1>Spencer Covin, right, we don't think about Lisa Bloom, not

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<v Speaker 1>the first person that comes to mind. Right, So again,

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<v Speaker 1>she is certainly a fame chaser, somebody that likes to

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<v Speaker 1>on them for at least a few seconds in any

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<v Speaker 1>one of these kinds of cases. Speaking on a BBC

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<v Speaker 1>Radio four show this morning, lawyer Lisa Bloom said that

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<v Speaker 1>a UK court could get involved if the Duke of

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<v Speaker 1>York refuses to be questioned willingly. And that's a fact, right,

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<v Speaker 1>She's not lying about that. According to the treaty and

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<v Speaker 1>the agreements between the United States and the UK, that

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<v Speaker 1>is certainly a possibility. The UK courts most certainly could

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<v Speaker 1>step in here and force Andrew into giving this deposition.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking to the authorities and getting this whole entire thing

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<v Speaker 1>under way. Again, the question is, just like in America,

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<v Speaker 1>is there the willpower to go that far end up

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<v Speaker 1>until this point? Unfortunately the powers that be well, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't seem to have that kind of willpower. No one

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<v Speaker 1>is above the law, she told today. We have legal

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<v Speaker 1>cooperation agreement between the US and the UK. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a system and a process, and especially when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to sexual assault cases, Miss Roberts is entitled to her

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<v Speaker 1>day in court. He's entitled to present all his defenses.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, I think we're forgetting a lot about that part. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Prince Andrew should be looking at this as an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to clear his name, an opportunity to come forward and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>look there's been a lot of confusion here. I had

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with any of this. I wasn't part

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<v Speaker 1>But he can't do that, Kenny, because he knows what

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<v Speaker 1>who has integrity, a man who has a set of

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<v Speaker 1>non negotiable life principles, would never ever be caught dead

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<v Speaker 1>doing what Prince Andrew is doing. Right, now, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if he was to go see Don Corleone, he'd get

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<v Speaker 1>grabbed by the collar of his shirt, slapped in the

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<v Speaker 1>face and told to act like a man. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the easy route. If he went to Mama Capuci's house, however,

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<v Speaker 1>well I already told you, folks the outcome of that.

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<v Speaker 1>There are many ordinary cases ever every day where citizens

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<v Speaker 1>of the UK are acquired to answer questions under oath

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<v Speaker 1>and depositions in US cases and vice versa, because we

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<v Speaker 1>have a friendly agreement between the two countries. With that said,

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<v Speaker 1>claimed diplomatic privilege and all of that shit, she should

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<v Speaker 1>be extradited to England to face charges for reckless driving

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<v Speaker 1>and manslaughter or whatever the equivalent is in England. This

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<v Speaker 1>should honor our agreements in America as well. One of

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<v Speaker 1>here in America is they talk a big game, but

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<v Speaker 1>they walk around like they're pigeonfooted. Under the Hague Evidence Convention,

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<v Speaker 1>either England or Wales. Yeah, and that's a good agreement, right. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know how anyone in America could

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<v Speaker 1>see are one of our greatest allies or somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>we should cooperate with on every single level. Our ways

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<v Speaker 1>of life are very very similar. Of course there's some differences.

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<v Speaker 1>But you could take a brit and put them in America,

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<v Speaker 1>or an American and put them in Britain and they'll

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<v Speaker 1>get along just fine for the most part. Right. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be cultural norms that have to be experienced and

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<v Speaker 1>all of that. But my point is we're very much

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<v Speaker 1>more alike than we are different, and that goes for

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<v Speaker 1>probably most people in the world if you really get

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<v Speaker 1>down to it. Of Course, the loud mouths they'll always,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, spotlight the differences, right because they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>you to know that we're all the same. They want

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<v Speaker 1>you to think that everybody's your enemy, everybody's the fucking boogeyman,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of that nonsense. But we know, as citizens,

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<v Speaker 1>especially now now citizens who are in the public square

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<v Speaker 1>using the Internet, who coordinate and speak with each other

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<v Speaker 1>on a regular basis. There's no you know, drape over

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<v Speaker 1>handful of agitators around the world that continue to try

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<v Speaker 1>to sit in a US court to face the allegations.

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<v Speaker 1>Ms Bloom said it would be a UK court that

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<v Speaker 1>would enforce it. Just as in my country. If a

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<v Speaker 1>witness is needed for a case in England, they are

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<v Speaker 1>required to cooperate. That is absolutely true. There are severe

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<v Speaker 1>penalties if you don't cooperate. Look, if you're subpoenaed by

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<v Speaker 1>your court, especially in your home country, and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>show up, you're gonna be held in contempt. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be held They're gonna have all kinds of charges for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, these feudal lords that we call judges, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't like to be screwed with. And you know, people

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<v Speaker 1>talk about awe. If I'm scared of the cops, right man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm scared of judges. That's who I fear the most.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a shame because we shouldn't fear anybody as citizens, right,

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<v Speaker 1>no federal government official. They work for us, but we

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<v Speaker 1>have seemed to have forgotten that. So these judges, they

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<v Speaker 1>hold great power over your life and over your well

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<v Speaker 1>being even and if you find yourself in front of

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<v Speaker 1>one of them, you better hope that they're having a

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<v Speaker 1>good day. She added. You have to jump through some hoops,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to submit some paperwork and affidavits and so forth,

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<v Speaker 1>but eventually witnesses and people who were sued need to comply.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes after a US judge slammed Prince Andrew's lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>for wasting time after he argue that the case should

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<v Speaker 1>be dismissed. Yeah, that's probably the result you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get if you show up into a judge's courtroom after

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<v Speaker 1>you've been avoiding shit for so long and talk about, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>well this should be a this should just be ejected

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<v Speaker 1>out of the car. We shouldn't even try this case,

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Kaplan sitting there like, bro, what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>I was supposed to be playing golf right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>instead I'm sitting here dealing with your dumbass. Nah, no

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<v Speaker 1>more technicalities, no more loopholes. Let's get the ball rolling.

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<v Speaker 1>The Duke of York's hot shot Hollywood lawyer branded it

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<v Speaker 1>baseless during a thirty minute telephone pre trial hearing on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>Funny that Andrew Bretler, by the way, worked for the

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<v Speaker 1>Southern District of New York. Used to be one of

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<v Speaker 1>the sdnycats, so he knows what's going on over there.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, what do I always tell you guys, It's

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<v Speaker 1>about the influence that you're paying for, not the courtroom behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only the old days. You know, you watch a

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<v Speaker 1>movie where the lawyer shows up and he's battering people. Right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>my cousin Vinnie isn't showing up here, folks. A super lawyer,

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Bretler told the Federal Court in New York that

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<v Speaker 1>it was non viable and potentially unlawful case. And this

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<v Speaker 1>guy is a super lawyer, There's no doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 1>He has all sorts of accolades and won all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of awards in Hollywood. You know, another one of these

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<v Speaker 1>big deal hot shot lawyers that you or I would

462
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<v Speaker 1>never be able to afford. A lawyer that would never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever,

463
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<v Speaker 1>ever ever ever take one of our cases pro bono.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know the funny thing is, guess who he

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<v Speaker 1>clerked for. Remember Richard Berman? Yeah, you remember Judge Berman, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the Honorable Richard Jermy Berman of the U. S. District

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<v Speaker 1>Court of the Southern District of New York. Yeah, well

468
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<v Speaker 1>this lawyer, mister Brettler, he was his clerk. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the circle of buddies, they're all friends. They're

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<v Speaker 1>all you know, hanging out with each other. They've all

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<v Speaker 1>worked with each other before. The game's rigged, folks, And

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<v Speaker 1>unless you pursue your case in a very passionate and

473
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<v Speaker 1>aggressive manner, you'll be lucky to ever get some justice

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<v Speaker 1>in this country. You know, these guys are all running

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<v Speaker 1>around with each other at you know, the golf courses,

476
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and you know these parties they go to and all

477
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:17.839
<v Speaker 1>of that jazz. It's like wrestling, right, they act like

478
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:20.559
<v Speaker 1>they dislike each other, then behind the scenes they're all boys.

479
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<v Speaker 1>He added he believed in two thousand and nine settlements

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<v Speaker 1>signed by his accuser with pedophile Epstein released the Duke

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<v Speaker 1>and others from any and all potential liability the judge said,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a pretty high degree of certainty that he

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<v Speaker 1>can be served sooner than later. Let's cut out all

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<v Speaker 1>the technicalities and get to the substance. So basically the

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<v Speaker 1>judge told them, right, Judge Kaplin is telling them, stop

486
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<v Speaker 1>the bullshit, accept this served summons and bring your ass

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<v Speaker 1>to court. Let's get kracking. Judge Lewis Kaplan ordered a

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<v Speaker 1>week long delay on proceedings on Monday. So there's another

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<v Speaker 1>little tidbit. We didn't have that tidbit yesterday in the

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<v Speaker 1>article that we read. I don't believe. So we have

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<v Speaker 1>a delay for one week and they're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to come correct in that week, meaning the team for

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew is going to have to bring something to the table.

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<v Speaker 1>Them showing up and saying, oh, this isn't legit is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to work. It will allow Virginia Roberts lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>to make any request to the court for help serving

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<v Speaker 1>the lawsuit. However, ms Bloom suggested that the case is

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<v Speaker 1>likely to go ahead despite the Prince's lawyer contesting the lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 1>One he can contest it until the cows come home,

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<v Speaker 1>but if the court feels that it's necessary and the

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<v Speaker 1>court wants to proceed. That is exactly what's going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Joe exotic of the Windsor family. No amount of

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<v Speaker 1>rial blood is going to stop that trend from leaving

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<v Speaker 1>the station. Mister Brettler last night said that Andrew was

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<v Speaker 1>not properly served with the lawsuit, rendering it null and void.

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Roberts lawyers insist the Royal has been served court

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<v Speaker 1>papers in accordance with English and international law and according

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<v Speaker 1>to the parameters, it would certainly seem as that would

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<v Speaker 1>be the case right that the process server served this

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<v Speaker 1>correctly and things should get moving in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 1>They say. A copy of the summons was left with

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<v Speaker 1>police at the gate of Windsor Royal Lodge on August

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventh. However, Andrew's teams say correct procedure wasn't followed,

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<v Speaker 1>as the paper should be served through a British court official.

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<v Speaker 1>And you see what they do here, right. They love

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<v Speaker 1>to play this game of technicalities. And I know I

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it a lot, but it's a big, big

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<v Speaker 1>sticking point here, folks. When we're talking about these people

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<v Speaker 1>and the behavior they're engaging in, the technicalities are the

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<v Speaker 1>lifeblood of the ruling class. It is how they are

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<v Speaker 1>able to move without ever being smacked in the ass

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to their crimes or their missteps or

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<v Speaker 1>their financial mouthfeasance. Meanwhile, they continuously add laws for you

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<v Speaker 1>and I and the Biden administrations taking it a step

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<v Speaker 1>further even and becoming extremely, extremely oppressive when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to financials. I'm gonna talk a little bit more about

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<v Speaker 1>that over on the other podcast, Beyond the Horizon. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's terrifying. Honestly, it's terrifying. Manhattan Federal Court Judge Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>Kaplan tonight gave Miss Robert's legal team another week to

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<v Speaker 1>serve the Prince sixty one with the papers. Mister Roberts

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<v Speaker 1>claim she was trafficked by Andrew's former friend and convicted

532
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<v Speaker 1>sex offender Jeffrey Epstein to have sex with the Prince,

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<v Speaker 1>so got this extra week. The judge is telling them,

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<v Speaker 1>don't fuck around, is what he is. Basically what Captain

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<v Speaker 1>told Andrews people one week, accept these fucking papers or

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be hell to pay, basically is what

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<v Speaker 1>the judge is telling them. American prosecutors have alleged that

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<v Speaker 1>the Prince has been unhelpful in their investigation into the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein case. The district's former US attorney, Jeffrey Berman, had

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<v Speaker 1>declared in a statement that the royal provided zero cooperation

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<v Speaker 1>and he hasn't provided any cooperation. Right, we don't need

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<v Speaker 1>Berman to tell us that we know this dude hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>provided any cooperation. We know old boy hasn't said a

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<v Speaker 1>goddamn thing to the authorities, and we know he continues

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<v Speaker 1>to run, duck and dodge like ripped tornas throwing wrenches

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<v Speaker 1>at him. Don't you all find this absurd? You got

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<v Speaker 1>I'm reading articles of people who got who are getting

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<v Speaker 1>busted for unemployment fraud for two or three thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>And now you got people like Prince Andrews still skirting

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<v Speaker 1>the law. You got the Core four not in prison,

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00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:17.280
<v Speaker 1>you got Indyke and Con running free. And that's just

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<v Speaker 1>the beginnings of what's going on out there. Our justice

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<v Speaker 1>system is absolutely fucked The priorities are fucked up. The

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<v Speaker 1>way that they manage things are messed up, and the

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<v Speaker 1>whole entire situation is nothing more than a dumpster fire.

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<v Speaker 1>When you look at what's going on with this prosecution,

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<v Speaker 1>it just makes me shake my head. When you compare

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<v Speaker 1>it to Rainieri or r Kelly. Now, don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>Maxwell looking at eighty years is certainly a good sign

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<v Speaker 1>and a good thing. But if they would have just

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<v Speaker 1>went the Rico route, all of this would have been

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<v Speaker 1>avoided because Prince Andrew would have been under that umbrella

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<v Speaker 1>of Rico, considering his ties to Jeffrey Epstein. But the

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<v Speaker 1>real sticking point would be the money that was sent

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<v Speaker 1>to Fergie that my friends would an envelope the both

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<v Speaker 1>of them under a Rico umbrella, and things would be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot hotter for the Prince. Instead, Virginia still has

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<v Speaker 1>to jump through all of these hoops, has to jump

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<v Speaker 1>through all of these pitfalls and avoid a game of

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<v Speaker 1>technicalities and loopholes. Unfortunately for the Prince, though, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like the time for obfuscation and honoring himself health is

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<v Speaker 1>quickly coming to an end. If you'd like to contact me,

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<v Speaker 1>you can do that at Bobby Capucci at ProtonMail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>That's bo Bby cap you Cci at ProtonMail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>You can also find me on Twitter at Bobby Underscore

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<v Speaker 1>cap you Cci. All of the links that go with

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<v Speaker 1>this episode can be found in the description box. All right, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be back later on and we'll pick up where

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<v Speaker 1>we left off and welcome back to the Epstein chronicles.

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<v Speaker 1>Earlier today, Judge Kaplin made a ruling and Prince Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>is going to have to face these accusations brought against

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<v Speaker 1>him by Virginia Roberts in a court of law. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been trying to get these dismissed for quite some time,

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<v Speaker 1>and he has attempted to use loopholes and technicalities to

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<v Speaker 1>get let it tossed. Thankfully, Judge Kaplan is not having it,

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<v Speaker 1>and Prince Andrew is going to have to answer these

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00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:11.760
<v Speaker 1>accusations in a court of law. Now, of course, this

588
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:14.280
<v Speaker 1>is not a criminal case, right, So it's not like

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00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.079
<v Speaker 1>he's going to go to prison because of this. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the very least he's being held responsible in some

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00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:28.280
<v Speaker 1>aspect of justice here, as opposed to him just sliding

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<v Speaker 1>underneath the radar and never being held to account. At

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<v Speaker 1>the very least, the spotlight's being put on him, and

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<v Speaker 1>people who might not have been aware of what was

595
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:42.079
<v Speaker 1>going on are going to become aware of what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on very quickly, just like with Epstein and then the

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<v Speaker 1>Maxwell trial. How many folks out there had no idea

598
00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:52.000
<v Speaker 1>what was really going on with these two. I'm guessing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people, and I'm guessing a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people that found their way to this podcast. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of emails from a lot of listeners who

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<v Speaker 1>really had no idea the true scope of what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on here. You know, they heard the rumors and

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<v Speaker 1>the innuendo, and then of course some of the more

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<v Speaker 1>batshit crazy conspiracy theory stuff, and you know, that drives

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00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:17.000
<v Speaker 1>people away. They're like, oh, the whole thing's a conspiracy theory.

607
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<v Speaker 1>But then they start to get some real information about

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<v Speaker 1>what went on here, information backed up with sources from

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<v Speaker 1>the media such as I DO, or with court documentation

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and people start to realize that this was

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<v Speaker 1>never a conspiracy theory. This was a criminal conspiracy from

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<v Speaker 1>the very beginning. And somebody like Prince Andrew, of his status,

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<v Speaker 1>of his wealth, of his power, being involved with someone

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<v Speaker 1>like Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell. It would seem absurd

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<v Speaker 1>to people who are not following something like this closely,

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<v Speaker 1>but the reality of the situation is the reality of life.

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<v Speaker 1>These all elites, it seems like all of them are

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<v Speaker 1>wired incorrectly and that all of them are fed up.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you get a certain amount of money, you automatically

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<v Speaker 1>become some kind of robber baron, it would seem. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when I talk about the rich, I'm not talking about

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<v Speaker 1>people that are making you know, a couple of million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars or anything like that. I'm talking about generational wealth,

624
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<v Speaker 1>the kind of wealth you see with these hedge fund

625
00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:30.199
<v Speaker 1>type people, with the Maxwells of the world. Those are

626
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<v Speaker 1>the uber elite, the super elite, not what I call

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<v Speaker 1>the working rich. The working rich are the people who

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<v Speaker 1>might have accumulated a few million dollars throughout their years

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<v Speaker 1>of working, but they're not part of the party either,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're not invited up to the top floor no

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<v Speaker 1>more than you or I are welcome. So when I

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the rich, I'm talking about, you know, the

633
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<v Speaker 1>Trumpian class of rich, the billions when you have that

634
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<v Speaker 1>be after your name, even the hundreds of millions, right,

635
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:03.360
<v Speaker 1>These people are they're all wired funny. And then they'll

636
00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:05.519
<v Speaker 1>get up there and they'll talk about, Oh, I give

637
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:08.079
<v Speaker 1>to this charity or I give to that charity, and

638
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:11.119
<v Speaker 1>then you hear two weeks later that they were involved

639
00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:14.519
<v Speaker 1>in a trafficking ring, or they were involved in Nexium

640
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:20.000
<v Speaker 1>or whatever it is, the truth of the matter is

641
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<v Speaker 1>that these people, the so called elite, the robber barons,

642
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:26.239
<v Speaker 1>the people in the financial sector, they don't care about

643
00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:29.320
<v Speaker 1>any of us. And if you think someone like Prince

644
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Andrew cares about, you know, the most vulnerable amongst us,

645
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:39.199
<v Speaker 1>or the poor or the downtrodden, he doesn't care. All

646
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<v Speaker 1>he cares about is enriching himself, increasing his wealth and

647
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:47.639
<v Speaker 1>continuing to you know, climb that social ladder that all

648
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:52.440
<v Speaker 1>of them are trying to climb. And if anybody thought

649
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:54.960
<v Speaker 1>he was ever gonna take responsibility what he did here,

650
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<v Speaker 1>I mean for what he did here of his own accord,

651
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:02.880
<v Speaker 1>you weren't paying attention. I saw someone post earlier on

652
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<v Speaker 1>Twitter talking about how it's time for Prince Andrew to

653
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<v Speaker 1>hire some lawyers that are going to try and ruin

654
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Virginia Roberts breaking news, dumbass, He's already done that. What

655
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<v Speaker 1>do you think, Brettler is what do you think Marty

656
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<v Speaker 1>Singer in the firm that they work at and that

657
00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Marty Singer owns, does they specialize in this? I uploaded

658
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<v Speaker 1>two episodes, one about both about Marty Singer excuse me

659
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:34.840
<v Speaker 1>and Prince Andrew Episode one and two. Episode one will

660
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<v Speaker 1>be uploaded at eight thirty and then episode two will

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<v Speaker 1>come after that. But it's a look back episode of

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<v Speaker 1>when Prince Andrew first announced that he was hiring Bretler

663
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<v Speaker 1>and what my response to it all was. I knew

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what the strategy was going to be then, because

665
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:56.960
<v Speaker 1>that's the kind of lawyers that these dudes are. So

666
00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:00.360
<v Speaker 1>there's so many people who have no idea about this

667
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:03.679
<v Speaker 1>case but who liked to interject themselves into it. It's

668
00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:07.079
<v Speaker 1>so beyond odd to me, Like, if you don't know

669
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<v Speaker 1>about something, why are you popping off about it? You know,

670
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<v Speaker 1>one thing I've learned in my forty one years on

671
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:18.119
<v Speaker 1>this planet is that I don't know anything, barely know

672
00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:20.599
<v Speaker 1>my name at half the time, never mind you know,

673
00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:26.800
<v Speaker 1>thinking I know everything about everything. But Prince Andrew hiring

674
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:30.679
<v Speaker 1>these lawyers signaled right away what his strategy was going

675
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:34.920
<v Speaker 1>to be, and this ruling today from Judge Caplan is

676
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<v Speaker 1>also signaling that this strategy might not be the best

677
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<v Speaker 1>one for him and might not be the way to victory.

678
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<v Speaker 1>In fact, honestly, I don't think there is a way

679
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:49.639
<v Speaker 1>to victory for this dude. I think that he's going

680
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<v Speaker 1>to have to pay up civilly here, there's going to

681
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:55.400
<v Speaker 1>be a judgment against him one way or the other.

682
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<v Speaker 1>If it ever comes down, if he ever at pays it,

683
00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:01.039
<v Speaker 1>that's a whole other matter. But I think the judgment

684
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:04.760
<v Speaker 1>eventually is going to go against him, and as far

685
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:10.039
<v Speaker 1>as criminally speaking, I highly doubt it. But this is

686
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<v Speaker 1>this signals bad news for his civil case here with

687
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<v Speaker 1>Judge Kaplan already basically saying, look, this getting off on

688
00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:21.079
<v Speaker 1>the technicality stuff isn't going to work. You're gonna have

689
00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:23.440
<v Speaker 1>to prove it in the court of law and prove

690
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:27.559
<v Speaker 1>the merits of what you're saying here. So let's jump

691
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:31.679
<v Speaker 1>into this article from CNN and let's see what Eric

692
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Levinson and Lauren de Valley have to say. Headline. Judge

693
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<v Speaker 1>rules sexual assault lawsuit against Prince Andrew can move ahead.

694
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<v Speaker 1>A federal judge in New York on Wednesday denied a

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<v Speaker 1>motion to dismiss laws a lawsuit against Prince Andrew filed

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<v Speaker 1>by Virginia Roberts, who alleges she was sexually trafficked to

697
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:58.559
<v Speaker 1>the Royal when she was under age. Now, all of

698
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:01.039
<v Speaker 1>this alleges and this that the other thing. That's fine,

699
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:03.800
<v Speaker 1>and well, when we're talking about the situation with Andrew,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing has been proved. It has been proved in court, right,

701
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:09.599
<v Speaker 1>so of course it's alleged. But when we talk about

702
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:13.559
<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein, I don't know why they still say one

703
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:18.119
<v Speaker 1>of his accusers pretty obvious that Jeffrey Epstein did what

704
00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:20.599
<v Speaker 1>these girls are saying to them, it's pretty obvious he

705
00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:24.159
<v Speaker 1>did it, or the estate wouldn't pay out all that money,

706
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:27.039
<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't have gotten arrested the second time. Maxwell wouldn't

707
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:30.400
<v Speaker 1>be indicted. You pick up what I'm putting down here, folks.

708
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<v Speaker 1>So there's no alleged when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, that's ridiculous. Miss Roberts's complaint is neither unintelligible,

710
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<v Speaker 1>nor vague nor ambiguous, Judge Lewis Caplan wrote in the ruling.

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<v Speaker 1>It alleges discrete incidents of sexual abuse in particular circumstances

712
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:53.440
<v Speaker 1>at three identified and identifiable locations. It identifies to whom

713
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:57.559
<v Speaker 1>it attributes that sexual abuse. So basically, Caplan is saying

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<v Speaker 1>there's grounds here. There is. She is saying that the

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00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:05.760
<v Speaker 1>exact spots where it took place. She's saying that the

716
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:11.559
<v Speaker 1>locations are identifiable, and she's identifying whom it happened with.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know how anyone who's looking at this

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<v Speaker 1>from a non biased view like a judge should be

719
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<v Speaker 1>could say, Ah, yeah, I'm gonna dismiss this. There's nothing there.

720
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<v Speaker 1>And the fact that Andrew's two thousand dollars an hour

721
00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:30.039
<v Speaker 1>lawyers thought that this strategy was gonna work is it's

722
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<v Speaker 1>just crazy to me. It is just crazy to me

723
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<v Speaker 1>that they can't read the temperature of the room at

724
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<v Speaker 1>this point. Still Roberts alleged in the lawsuit that the

725
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<v Speaker 1>late financier, the late financier, that's what they're still calling

726
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:46.840
<v Speaker 1>this guy, the late financier. But if it was one

727
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:50.400
<v Speaker 1>of their political opponents, they'd be calling him, you know,

728
00:47:51.239 --> 00:47:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Himmler or some other crazy insert name here. You see

729
00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:57.920
<v Speaker 1>what they do, folks. They pick and choose what they

730
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:01.559
<v Speaker 1>want to pour down your throat, and they act like

731
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:05.039
<v Speaker 1>attacking their political opponents is more important than you know,

732
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<v Speaker 1>naming Jeffrey Epstein for what he is, the late financier.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you going to offend Jeffrey Epstein? What's he

734
00:48:11.039 --> 00:48:13.199
<v Speaker 1>going to come back from the dead? And sue you.

735
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:16.119
<v Speaker 1>Let's just call the guy what he is, okay, A pedophile,

736
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:19.519
<v Speaker 1>a human trafficker, a piece of trash. You know, all

737
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:23.639
<v Speaker 1>of that works. Trafficker enforced her to have sex with

738
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:27.000
<v Speaker 1>his friends, including the Prince, and that Andrew was aware

739
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:29.840
<v Speaker 1>she was under age seventeen in the US at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>She alleges the Prince sexually abused her at Epstein's private

741
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<v Speaker 1>island in the US Virgin Islands, at his mansion in Manhattan,

742
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<v Speaker 1>and at his former girlfriend, co conspirator, fellow human trafficker

743
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:46.920
<v Speaker 1>General all around scuzbag and bipudal serpent, Glene Maxwell's home

744
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:54.079
<v Speaker 1>in London. Prince Andrew has denied the allegations and had

745
00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:57.199
<v Speaker 1>moved to dismiss the suit. CNN has reached out to

746
00:48:57.239 --> 00:49:00.000
<v Speaker 1>his attorneys for further comment. You know, they're not gonna come.

747
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:02.880
<v Speaker 1>They have nothing to say. They don't want to say

748
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:05.559
<v Speaker 1>anything because they know the deal. What can they possibly

749
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:08.800
<v Speaker 1>say at this point that is going to help their cause.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything they say they've said in the courtroom already, and

751
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:17.079
<v Speaker 1>it's not good. They're They're not out here to try

752
00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:19.679
<v Speaker 1>and win the pr battle anymore. It's a hatchet job.

753
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:24.079
<v Speaker 1>That's why Brettler was hired. The ruling sets up a

754
00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:27.599
<v Speaker 1>dramatic series of legal proceedings for Queen Elizabeth the Second's

755
00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:31.760
<v Speaker 1>third child that could have major ramifications for Buckingham Palace.

756
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:36.119
<v Speaker 1>The long running allegations against Andrew sixty one have already

757
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:40.119
<v Speaker 1>dramatically tarnished his public standing. And he stepped back from

758
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:45.159
<v Speaker 1>royal duties in late twenty nineteen, or did he? They

759
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:47.840
<v Speaker 1>gave that perception, But it sure seems to me like

760
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:52.599
<v Speaker 1>he was still, you know, hanging out around Balmoral, hanging

761
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:55.880
<v Speaker 1>out with mom. What did he really have taken from him?

762
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:59.159
<v Speaker 1>Some of those patronages still can come up with enough

763
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:02.360
<v Speaker 1>money to to spend two grand an hour for lawyers, right,

764
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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I know, I know. Mom's not paying for that,

765
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:08.920
<v Speaker 1>right stop it. You know that the Queen is paying

766
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:11.519
<v Speaker 1>for his legal fees one way or the other. And

767
00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:13.800
<v Speaker 1>you know that if there was a settlement here, she'd

768
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<v Speaker 1>be paying for that as well. Andrew has until July

769
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<v Speaker 1>fourteenth to potentially answer questions about the case under oath,

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<v Speaker 1>following a ruling made by Kaplan last year. If the

771
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<v Speaker 1>case is not settled, Prince Andrew could face a trial

772
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<v Speaker 1>date between September and December of twenty twenty two, so

773
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<v Speaker 1>obviously not anytime soon soon, but it is on the horizon,

774
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:39.920
<v Speaker 1>and you know it's going to be keeping Uncle Touchy

775
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:43.079
<v Speaker 1>up at night sweating. Even though he says he can't.

776
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:47.079
<v Speaker 1>This guy is really dug himself a hole, hasn't he

777
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<v Speaker 1>Going on to that Emily Maitliss interview was one of

778
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<v Speaker 1>the worst decisions of this man's life. Well besides you know,

779
00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:58.880
<v Speaker 1>hanging out with Epstein and abusing traffic girls, but going

780
00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:01.320
<v Speaker 1>on to Emily may List of the show just made

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00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:03.840
<v Speaker 1>it so much worse for him because he can't even

782
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:07.480
<v Speaker 1>fall back on the I don't knows anymore or anything

783
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:10.280
<v Speaker 1>like that, because he was completely exposed in that interview,

784
00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:13.079
<v Speaker 1>and anyone who watches it can tell the dude's lion.

785
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:16.920
<v Speaker 1>It's not like he's up there being truthful with anybody

786
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:20.039
<v Speaker 1>providing receipts pointing to this or that to say, hey,

787
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:22.320
<v Speaker 1>look I'm innocent. You can talk to so and so.

788
00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Has he ever done any of that? And you would

789
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:28.760
<v Speaker 1>think that if Buckingham Palace had evidence that would help

790
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:32.239
<v Speaker 1>exonerate him, they would bring it forward. I'm guessing none

791
00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:34.599
<v Speaker 1>of that exists because when he was going to hang

792
00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:37.280
<v Speaker 1>out with Epstein. I'm sure it was a wink, wink, nudge,

793
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:40.239
<v Speaker 1>nudge to whatever the security detail is to. You know,

794
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:42.320
<v Speaker 1>how about we keep this one off the books. Boys,

795
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:44.800
<v Speaker 1>let's keep this one off the record. Now. Do I

796
00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:48.360
<v Speaker 1>have evidence of that? No? But you don't think that happens.

797
00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:50.960
<v Speaker 1>You don't think these guys are buddy buddy with the Prince.

798
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:53.679
<v Speaker 1>You don't think his security detail wants to be boys

799
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<v Speaker 1>with the Prince. Of course they do. Buckingham Palace declined,

800
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:03.119
<v Speaker 1>saying we would not comment on what is an ongoing

801
00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:06.440
<v Speaker 1>legal matter, and that's been their approach pretty much throughout

802
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:09.480
<v Speaker 1>this whole thing, to not comment. But you would think

803
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:12.639
<v Speaker 1>that they'd come out and they'd show empathy towards the survivors.

804
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:15.639
<v Speaker 1>But they don't really care about that. It's all about

805
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:19.599
<v Speaker 1>protecting the firm, making sure the monarchy is protected, making

806
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:23.079
<v Speaker 1>sure the queen isn't tarnished. Who cares about the girls

807
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:26.719
<v Speaker 1>that were abused by Jeffrey Epstein's BFFs, I mean by

808
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Prince Andrew's BFFs. I mean it's absurd, right, You would

809
00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:34.480
<v Speaker 1>think that the monarchy, the queen, they'd be coming forward

810
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and they'd be saying, look, we have a lot of

811
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:38.880
<v Speaker 1>empathy for what happened to these girls. We're gonna let

812
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:42.559
<v Speaker 1>this legal process play out, and you know, we want

813
00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:46.400
<v Speaker 1>everyone to understand that you know something, but no, it's oh,

814
00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:50.360
<v Speaker 1>we have no idea, no comment. It's crazy. You people

815
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<v Speaker 1>represent England and that's the best you can do. Huh.

816
00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Robert's attorney, Sigurd McCauley said the judge's ruling is another

817
00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:01.960
<v Speaker 1>important step in vers r Ginia's heroic and determined pursuit

818
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:05.960
<v Speaker 1>of justice as a survivor of sex trafficking. The civil

819
00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:09.559
<v Speaker 1>suit stems from the sprawling and disturbing allegations against Epstein,

820
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:13.599
<v Speaker 1>the wealthy sex offender pedophile who befriended a series of

821
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:17.760
<v Speaker 1>powerful men despite a sketchy history, a group of powerful

822
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:20.599
<v Speaker 1>women as well. Let's not forget all of those powerful

823
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:24.320
<v Speaker 1>women that were around Jeffrey Epstein as well. Remember, folks,

824
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<v Speaker 1>these everyone's a gray character, men and women alike, and

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein sure had his collection of both. Dittey. Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>pleaded guilty in two thousand and eight the state prostitution

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<v Speaker 1>charges and July nineteenth and July twenty nineteen was indicted

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<v Speaker 1>on federal sex trafficking charges. Prosecutors accused him of carrying

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<v Speaker 1>out a decades long scheme of sexual abuse of underage girls,

830
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<v Speaker 1>flying them on private planes to his properties in Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>New York, New Mexico, and the US Virgin Islands. He

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<v Speaker 1>died by suicide, allegedly in prison before he could face trial.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't just him obviously, right, How about those

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<v Speaker 1>pilots that were flying all those girls around? They just

835
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<v Speaker 1>get carte blanche, They just get off because they go

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<v Speaker 1>and give a few words at the trial. I want

837
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<v Speaker 1>did they get an agreement? What kind of agreement did

838
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<v Speaker 1>they get? Did they get clemency, did they get immunity

839
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<v Speaker 1>for their testimony? Or did they just do it out

840
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:21.960
<v Speaker 1>of the kindness of their souls? Where were they after

841
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:25.079
<v Speaker 1>the first arrest? So what about all of the other

842
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:27.960
<v Speaker 1>people that were involved? Here? You know, you have sex

843
00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:33.079
<v Speaker 1>trafficking and Epstein wasn't flying the plane, right, So everybody

844
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<v Speaker 1>who was involved needs to be caught up in this net. Maxwell,

845
00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:42.760
<v Speaker 1>his former girlfriend, a co conspirator, general all around scusbag

846
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:46.760
<v Speaker 1>and human trafficker, was arrested in twenty twenty and accused

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<v Speaker 1>of facilitating the abuse scheme. A federal jury convicted her

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<v Speaker 1>in December on five federal accounts, including sex, trafficking a

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<v Speaker 1>minor and conspiracy. Roberts was not one of the four

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00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:02.599
<v Speaker 1>women who testified Maxwell's true that they had been abused. Still,

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00:55:03.079 --> 00:55:05.559
<v Speaker 1>she was mentioned in the trial when Carolyn, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the survivors, testified that Roberts had recruited her to come

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<v Speaker 1>to Epstein's home in Palm Beach, Florida. So again, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how Virginia wasn't called at this trial. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how some of the other survivors weren't called

856
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<v Speaker 1>at this trial. But hopefully at the sentencing portion they

857
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<v Speaker 1>will be called for those witness impact statements. Catherlin's ruling

858
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<v Speaker 1>wednesday allowed the lawsuit to continue, but he did not

859
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<v Speaker 1>determine the facts or validity of the case. So he's

860
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<v Speaker 1>letting it continue, meaning he wants to see more. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't determine one way or the other what's true or

862
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<v Speaker 1>what's not true yet, but there is enough there for

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<v Speaker 1>him to want to see more and to get this

864
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:54.119
<v Speaker 1>ball rolling. The Prince's attorneys that argued that Robert's lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>violated the terms of her two thousand and nine settlement

866
00:55:57.000 --> 00:55:59.960
<v Speaker 1>agreement with Epstein in Florida, in which she agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>a general release of claims against Epstein and others. That settlement,

868
00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:07.280
<v Speaker 1>which was released to the public last week, shows that

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein paid Roberts five hundred thousand dollars to drop the

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<v Speaker 1>case without any admission of liability or fall. The Prince's

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00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:18.480
<v Speaker 1>name does not explicitly appear as a party, so again

872
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<v Speaker 1>very vague. It goes against everything that Andrew was saying previously,

873
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<v Speaker 1>so I'm glad that Kaplan recognized it as the bs

874
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:32.719
<v Speaker 1>that it is. However, Robert's attorney, David Boyce, argued the

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<v Speaker 1>settlement is irrelevant to her claims against the Prince, noting

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew did not know about it at the time and

877
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:42.519
<v Speaker 1>it didn't apply to him. In the ruling, Kaplan wrote

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<v Speaker 1>that both sides put forward the reasonable interpretations of the

879
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:48.400
<v Speaker 1>settlement's meaning. So what that means is he wants to

880
00:56:48.559 --> 00:56:51.159
<v Speaker 1>see more. He wants both sides to argue in front

881
00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:53.519
<v Speaker 1>of him their case so he can get to the

882
00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:56.679
<v Speaker 1>bottom of it. That's basically what Judge Kaplan is saying here.

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00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:03.159
<v Speaker 1>The agreement therefore is ambiguous. Accordingly, the determination of the

884
00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:05.480
<v Speaker 1>meaning of the release language in the two thousand and

885
00:57:05.559 --> 00:57:09.519
<v Speaker 1>nine agreement must have waited further proceedings, he wrote. Roberts

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00:57:09.519 --> 00:57:12.239
<v Speaker 1>brought her case under the Child Victims Act, a New

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00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:16.599
<v Speaker 1>York state law enacted in twenty nineteen that temporarily expanded

888
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:20.360
<v Speaker 1>the statute of limitations in child's sex abuse cases to

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00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:25.159
<v Speaker 1>give survivors more opportunities to seek justice. Prince Andrew's attorneys

890
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<v Speaker 1>argued that the law is unconstitutional, but the judge rejected

891
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:32.840
<v Speaker 1>the argument, citing another judge's analysis that this line of

892
00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:39.440
<v Speaker 1>argument was creative but without merit. So again loopholes and technicalities.

893
00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:43.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh the law is wrong. Oh, the law is unconstitutional.

894
00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:46.679
<v Speaker 1>Not that I'm going to defend myself with evidence at trial.

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<v Speaker 1>None of that what Roberts alleges in claims made prior

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<v Speaker 1>to filing her lawsuit. Robert's alleged that in two thousand

897
00:57:55.840 --> 00:57:59.079
<v Speaker 1>and one, Epstein brought her to London, where she was

898
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<v Speaker 1>introduced to Prince Andrew and went dancing at a nightclub

899
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<v Speaker 1>with Epstein, Maxwell and the Prince. In a BBC interview

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00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:09.800
<v Speaker 1>broadcast in twenty and nineteen, Robert said she had been

901
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<v Speaker 1>taken to the Tramp nightclub, where Robert's alleged Andrew asked

902
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<v Speaker 1>her to dance and was sweating all over me. And

903
00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:19.960
<v Speaker 1>now you know, Andrew says he can't sweat. He you know,

904
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:23.199
<v Speaker 1>he's not a sweater. He has a condition that makes

905
00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:26.000
<v Speaker 1>it so he can't sweat. Who's ever heard of something

906
00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:29.039
<v Speaker 1>so absurd. I know there's cases out there, right, but

907
00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:32.039
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, Andrew's one of these people as well. Right,

908
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:35.519
<v Speaker 1>he hits the lottery for genetics as far as being

909
00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:38.079
<v Speaker 1>born or royal, and he just happens to have this

910
00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:40.639
<v Speaker 1>condition too. Huh, the only one in the family with it.

911
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:47.719
<v Speaker 1>After Andrew has denied the claims, telling the BBC in

912
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<v Speaker 1>twenty and nineteen it didn't happen. I can absolutely categorically

913
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:54.679
<v Speaker 1>tell you it never happened. I have no recollection of

914
00:58:54.719 --> 00:58:58.559
<v Speaker 1>ever meeting this lady, none whatsoever. Yes, see how the

915
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:02.440
<v Speaker 1>story has changed. Huh. Now it's wait, it's unconstitutional. Wait

916
00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:04.480
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, Hold on a minute. I had no

917
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<v Speaker 1>idea here. I'm protected. Oh, it's not that I don't

918
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<v Speaker 1>know her. Because now at the trial, when he goes

919
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:12.199
<v Speaker 1>under oath, is he going to say the same thing

920
00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:17.519
<v Speaker 1>he claimed in that same interview that he could not

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<v Speaker 1>sweat due to a rare medical condition, and that on

922
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<v Speaker 1>the night he is alleged to have had sex assaulted.

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<v Speaker 1>You mean with Roberts, he was in fact taking his

924
00:59:26.239 --> 00:59:29.800
<v Speaker 1>daughter to a party at a pizza express restaurant and Woking,

925
00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:34.039
<v Speaker 1>southwest of London. Imagine all of these scumbags using their

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00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:37.440
<v Speaker 1>kids and their families as some kind of alibi or

927
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:40.239
<v Speaker 1>a crutch. Oh, I was taking my daughter to get pizza.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile he's out molesting people and abusing people, absolutely disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert's lawyers asked Andrew in court filings to provide documents

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<v Speaker 1>proving both of those claims. Andrew's team responded that he

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<v Speaker 1>was unable to do so because he has no documents

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<v Speaker 1>proving a medical condition that prevents sweating and cannot identify

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<v Speaker 1>anyone he encountered at the pizza restaurant. Now remember he's

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<v Speaker 1>super famous, right If you were at the pizza restaurant

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01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:12.079
<v Speaker 1>that night, you would remember, if you know, the Queen's

936
01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:14.599
<v Speaker 1>Sun was there. It would be like us going to

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01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:17.039
<v Speaker 1>a pizza shop, I don't know, a pizza hut and

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01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:20.400
<v Speaker 1>the Obamas are hanging out. You're gonna remember that. You

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01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:22.559
<v Speaker 1>mean to tell me not one person remembers you at

940
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<v Speaker 1>this party. You can't get one person to corroborate your story.

941
01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Huh oh yeah, we should all just believe you though.

942
01:00:28.199 --> 01:00:31.320
<v Speaker 1>There should never be a trial here. You should never

943
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:36.360
<v Speaker 1>be deposed, not you, Prince Andrew, give me a break already,

944
01:00:36.920 --> 01:00:41.559
<v Speaker 1>And thankfully, finally, after all this time, that's gonna change.

945
01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:44.320
<v Speaker 1>And it looks like this dude's going to have to

946
01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:49.000
<v Speaker 1>sit down under oath and answer questions. And we all

947
01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:55.119
<v Speaker 1>know how well Andrew does when he's being interviewed. All right, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna do it for tonight. Tomorrow morning, we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back with a little bit more obvious. We'll catch up

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<v Speaker 1>on the Glenn Maxwell situation, and obviously tonight you can

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<v Speaker 1>also expect more context episodes to see you through. If

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<v Speaker 1>you'd like to contact me, you can do that at

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Kapucci at ProtonMail dot com. That's b O B

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<v Speaker 1>B Y c A p U C c I at

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<v Speaker 1>ProtonMail dot com. You can also find me on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>at b O B B Y underscore c A p

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