Speaker 1: Hi guys, this is Mike. I just wanted to take
Speaker 1: a couple moments before launching into this final installment of
Speaker 1: our series on Strange Artifacts and just say I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I want to say I'm sorry because it has taken
Speaker 1: us so long to get this episode ready and out
Speaker 1: the door. And there are a lot of reasons for
Speaker 1: that I could bore you with, ranging from heart issues
Speaker 1: for myself, hunting season for Austin Covid. Let's throw in
Speaker 1: sick family members that need help. There's just been tons
Speaker 1: of stuff going on, and it's been really difficult for
Speaker 1: Austin and I to get together in the studio. We
Speaker 1: have been talking back and forth about wanting to get
Speaker 1: in the studio, but something happened that kind of made
Speaker 1: Austin have to, well, let's just say, live by himself
Speaker 1: in his room for a while. I'll let him tell
Speaker 1: you about that. He sent me an audio recording that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw in here. I'll put my comments as
Speaker 1: it goes along, and then we'll just launch into our episode.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I hope all of our listeners are having
Speaker 1: a great day. I'm hoping that their life situations has
Speaker 1: been a little better than ours recently, but hey, life
Speaker 1: is a box of chocolates. You never know what you're
Speaker 1: gonna get, all right, Austin take it away.
Speaker 2: Hey guys, it's Austin here. And you know, I feel
Speaker 2: like I've let you guys down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you kind of have.
Speaker 2: I feel like I've let myself down. And to be honest,
Speaker 2: I have you see, it's September, and in September, men
Speaker 2: like me take to the woods drama queen to shove
Speaker 2: a tiny stick through the heart of a living creature.
Speaker 2: And I failed, but I did catch something, ye, something
Speaker 2: called COVID and a sinus infection and strapped throat.
Speaker 1: He's been confined to his room for ten days.
Speaker 2: And while I was out there facing the elements, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I came back a bit under the weather.
Speaker 2: So this is a formal apology.
Speaker 1: It's about time.
Speaker 2: The late release of our episode, the stagnant time between.
Speaker 1: Product distribution, blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Has been due to many factors, family, drama, hunting, and illness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's kind of true.
Speaker 2: I'd like to say that we're going to get better.
Speaker 1: And I have before again with the drama, but we
Speaker 1: all know.
Speaker 2: That this time of year is specifically hard, so sorry,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to deal with it. Hopefully episodes come
Speaker 2: out more.
Speaker 1: Frequently, wouldn't that be something, But don't count on it.
Speaker 3: It's smart Alec caters.
Speaker 4: Hey guys, Hey guys. No, hey guys, hey guys, Hey guys.
Speaker 3: And uh what I always do this?
Speaker 2: You do?
Speaker 3: What episode are we on?
Speaker 1: You're supposed to ask that before you start? You know,
Speaker 1: this is and this is a milestone. We are in
Speaker 1: episode forty, which is like four times ten. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: two times twenty, twenty times twenty. Yeah, no, it's not.
Speaker 1: You are paying attention.
Speaker 3: I just let you ramble when you start doing that
Speaker 3: stuff where you're like, it's the same as purple and
Speaker 3: lavender and blue plus red and well it's.
Speaker 1: Same as five times eight.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, whatever you say.
Speaker 1: Six times ten minus four times five?
Speaker 3: All right? Yeah, my dad's good at basic algebra.
Speaker 1: That's just basic math.
Speaker 3: I think it's algebra. He's not good at definitions, though.
Speaker 1: Is that your stomach?
Speaker 3: I didn't make no noises.
Speaker 1: It could have been mine. I must be hungry. You
Speaker 1: gotta tell me, grobble whatever that is?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: Anyway, what are we talking about today we are continuing, actually,
Speaker 1: we are going to wrap up our discussion on strange artifacts,
Speaker 1: just strange things that kind of challenge the timelines of
Speaker 1: how long humans have been running around on this big
Speaker 1: giant ball, organic spaceship, this celestial sphere that is spinning
Speaker 1: through outer space.
Speaker 3: It might be flat though, you know.
Speaker 1: I read somewhere that the Earth is traveling through space.
Speaker 1: It's sixty seven thousand miles per hour.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: I see a Facebook post of like a guy in
Speaker 3: a Honda Civic floor in it and it says like
Speaker 3: eighty miles an hour. And then it shows a picture
Speaker 3: of a guy in like a rocket and it's like
Speaker 3: four hundred miles an hour. However, rockets go. And then
Speaker 3: there's a picture of a guy at a park serving
Speaker 3: a hot dog and it's like sixty seven thousand miles
Speaker 3: an hour because he's rotating.
Speaker 1: Oh gotcha.
Speaker 3: I was like, what, I don't know if that's the number?
Speaker 1: Sure, you know, hot I think it was. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it was me. I think we could we could find out, Hey,
Speaker 1: how fast is the Earth moving through space? Sixty seven
Speaker 1: thousand miles per hour?
Speaker 3: Noise The website Scientific.
Speaker 5: American dot com they say it covers this root and
Speaker 5: the speed of nearly three kilometers per second for sixty
Speaker 5: seven miles per hour.
Speaker 1: Thanks Google, that'll be quiet.
Speaker 3: You're a sweet art.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 3: See sixty seventy.
Speaker 1: I'm maybe getting older, but I still have it. Okay,
Speaker 1: silence and crickets. Put crickets in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah you're impressed, aren't you.
Speaker 1: I am impressed. So, yeah, what we've been talking about
Speaker 1: are just things that kind of mess up the status quo.
Speaker 1: As far as the timeline.
Speaker 3: I think we drilled that pretty good in the last
Speaker 3: two episodes, right, and we talked about some other things
Speaker 3: we just hinted at him, but we didn't have time
Speaker 3: to really dive into them because we would have been
Speaker 3: talking too long and we tend to do often.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a thing, but I just wanted to mention,
Speaker 1: just real quickly, a couple more of the artifacts that
Speaker 1: are out there that kind of beg that you know,
Speaker 1: mankind has been around longer. Okay, and you know, like
Speaker 1: all of the other ones, they are up for debate.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of critics that say, no, this stuff
Speaker 1: is garbage, It was a hoax or whatever. For some people,
Speaker 1: they believe that these things are proof that man has
Speaker 1: either been around for a heck of a long time,
Speaker 1: like we're talking of hundreds of millions of years, or
Speaker 1: the Earth is much younger than we think it.
Speaker 3: Is, and that's what these quote unquote artifacts or fossils
Speaker 3: or whatever implying.
Speaker 1: Right. Okay, so let's just we'll just do a couple
Speaker 1: a couple more and then we'll jump into some other
Speaker 1: things that we kind of hit it atka. One of
Speaker 1: the most famous finds is this iron cup. It's like
Speaker 1: a cast iron cup that was found old in Rome and.
Speaker 3: The gladiators used it to protect their Tinitalia.
Speaker 1: Well, that's a different kind of cup. This is like
Speaker 1: a sippy cup. This is like a really old sippy cup. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but anyway, it was found in a coal mine, Okay,
Speaker 1: and people digging. What was that?
Speaker 3: Okay, So my wife interrupts this podcast. She just finished
Speaker 3: being Annie Oakley and a local theater performance of Annie Gets.
Speaker 1: Your Guns, which he was really good at.
Speaker 3: She did great. She got a bunch of big bruises
Speaker 3: on her legs from riding a motorcycle. But she just
Speaker 3: texts me this, I believe in safety in numbers point
Speaker 3: two to two point four point four to five nine
Speaker 3: to milimeters thirty to six point two two three.
Speaker 1: Safety in rifles and ammunition, various calibers. So what was
Speaker 1: I saying before your wife rudely and but annoyingly interrupted me?
Speaker 3: Something about bullets?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, what No, you went for it though, and
Speaker 1: I did for a second, because I never paid attention
Speaker 1: to what you're saying.
Speaker 3: That's true. I spend my childhood. You're talking about the
Speaker 3: big Genitalia protective covering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were talking about we're talking about cast iron cups,
Speaker 1: and I was saying that they are like sippy cups, right,
Speaker 1: But this sippy cup was found deep, like mile deep
Speaker 1: or so, in a coal mine and the estimated age
Speaker 1: of that region was like over three hundred million years old.
Speaker 3: That's pretty darn old, pretty old, right, that's an old
Speaker 3: ass cup.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So imagine you're you're a minor, you're down in
Speaker 1: his mind.
Speaker 3: It's very dark and can buy alcohol, can't gamble, and
Speaker 3: you got your pick axe and you're in there and
Speaker 3: you're like sledging out coal and you're.
Speaker 1: Wow, crumble crumble crumbling, then wow grumble crumble couple, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got like that is that cast iron?
Speaker 1: Is that more tin?
Speaker 3: I think a cast I don't know. Both of them
Speaker 3: would probably go like clunk, yeah, clunk, because they're kind
Speaker 3: of soft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a metallic sound. And outing out of
Speaker 1: the co drops a thing that's obviously not like the coal.
Speaker 3: Probably identified at the time as a chin of derrick.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So they pick it up and they start looking
Speaker 1: at it, and it's like it's a cup. It's a
Speaker 1: it's a cup that looks like it's got two little
Speaker 1: poor spouts on either side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks a lot to me like something a
Speaker 3: blacksmith's would use, Like if you we would melt lead
Speaker 3: down to use as like a vibration dampener, and we
Speaker 3: would melt it down in a cup that looks very similar.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Picture it kind of looks like a crucible or something,
Speaker 1: but it's miniature. It's not very big. It's small. And
Speaker 1: this happened in nineteen forty eight, and it happened in Oklahoma, Oh,
Speaker 1: in a mine in Oklahoma. Now, like all other things
Speaker 1: that we've talked about, it's highly debated. It's tried to
Speaker 1: be totally debunked over and over again. People don't like
Speaker 1: this stuff, especially scientists, which I want to take a
Speaker 1: moment here about science. I like science. I would say
Speaker 1: that I ethne love science, but I don't like that word.
Speaker 1: I hate that word. But I do like that site.
Speaker 1: And I am a science fan and I'm somewhat of
Speaker 1: a science nerd. Not that I'm really good at it
Speaker 1: or really knowledgeable or anything, but I like it. So
Speaker 1: I want shout out to Kate.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: Kate is one of the new listeners that started listening
Speaker 1: due to a shout out about our podcast by eleven
Speaker 1: fifty nine Media, Yeah and their new podcast called Hugs Hugs.
Speaker 1: They did a shout out to a Strange Thing podcast
Speaker 1: and she started listening. Yeah, thank you, thank you so much. Guysator, yes,
Speaker 1: the operator and Jack and Kent Kent Yeah, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: talks so stoically.
Speaker 3: He's great.
Speaker 1: He's a good guy. So Kate sent me an email
Speaker 1: through our website and said, hey, you said that the
Speaker 1: first law of thermo dynamics is pseudoscience fist law of thermodynamics, Yeah,
Speaker 1: which you know is basically saying that energy cannot be
Speaker 1: created or destroyed, it just changes form like aminta.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, terminated gives it can be destroyed. Yes, again. And
Speaker 1: so when she told me about it, I thought, you
Speaker 1: know what, I got to go back and listen to that.
Speaker 1: And it was an episode thirty six and it was
Speaker 1: our episode on Strange Ghosts, and we were talking to
Speaker 1: a guy at a campfire who mentioned his theory that
Speaker 1: maybe what happens is since that first law of thermodynamic
Speaker 1: is fact or it's provable that maybe what happens when
Speaker 1: you die, the energy of you does not you know,
Speaker 1: dissipate or disappear or end. It actually just simply transforms
Speaker 1: into a new dimension or new shape or form or something.
Speaker 3: Do you have to let it linger?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And I was basically saying that some people take
Speaker 1: that idea and they create a pseudoscience because they're using
Speaker 1: the first law of thermo dynamics and saying, okay, now
Speaker 1: that that proves that ghosts are these entities that transform
Speaker 1: from life to death spirits. So that is what I
Speaker 1: was talking about as pseudoscience. And so I just want
Speaker 1: to clarify, Kate, I really appreciate you taking the time
Speaker 1: to email us and voice your concerns because we really
Speaker 1: value science. And I know also you mentioned that you
Speaker 1: know you can deal with. You know that we talk
Speaker 1: occasionally about our religious beliefs or perspectives or whatever that
Speaker 1: we've had in the past, and I want to say
Speaker 1: thank you for that too, that the patience you have
Speaker 1: with us, because just like you, me and Austin, probably
Speaker 1: to maybe a lesser extent, have had to wrestle with
Speaker 1: our faith systems because of the religious let's call it
Speaker 1: rigidity that we've experience, or that I've experienced as a kid,
Speaker 1: and I was in rebellion against that for a long
Speaker 1: long time. And I just want to say that we
Speaker 1: try really, really hard. Although I do have a faith,
Speaker 1: I do not want that to be something that I'm
Speaker 1: trying to push on people or do some kind of
Speaker 1: a doctrination or vangelization. I just throw things out there
Speaker 1: because it's where I'm at right now in the story
Speaker 1: of my life. And so anyway, Kate, thank you. I
Speaker 1: hope I clarified that enough for you, and well.
Speaker 3: Let's get back to it. I feel as though this
Speaker 3: would be a perfect thing that we could talk about
Speaker 3: on an Open Nike episode, Open and Austin episode.
Speaker 1: It would be a fantastic We definitely and all even
Speaker 1: play that audio clip.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, Rosco peak.
Speaker 1: Train is not you.
Speaker 3: What's that guy?
Speaker 1: The laughing guy?
Speaker 3: And he's like, that's Frosco.
Speaker 1: No, it's a different guy. He's he was he was
Speaker 1: like an overnight sensation. He was like a he'd like
Speaker 1: got a million hits on him. I was thinking. And
Speaker 1: he laughed, you know, he's like he's got a chicken
Speaker 1: or something. And there's like they're talking about the birds
Speaker 1: and he starts laughing about his chicken. He's like.
Speaker 3: I heard, well, well he does that too.
Speaker 1: I mean, anyway, we are way off. But anyway, so yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: objects found in coal right, Okay, we have this iron
Speaker 1: cup in Oklahoma. Now it's one of many. There are
Speaker 1: lots of artifacts that have been found in coal mines.
Speaker 1: Now skeptics will say, oh, these things aren't you know,
Speaker 1: three hundred million years old. They are artifacts that somebody
Speaker 1: that was digging in the coal mine dropped and then
Speaker 1: somebody else picked it up.
Speaker 3: He dropped his tankred.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But one thing that's kind of unique about the
Speaker 1: iron cup that was found in Oklahoma, Alklahoma, in Alklahoma
Speaker 1: is that it's kind of a unique design. It's not
Speaker 1: like something that people had at that time that they
Speaker 1: would use somewhere in a coal mine. I mean, why
Speaker 1: would you carry a cast iron anything into a coal mine?
Speaker 1: It's too heavy. You know, you'd take a tin thing,
Speaker 1: or you'd take you know whatever.
Speaker 3: If that's the actual thing that you brought up on
Speaker 3: the screen right now, and I have nothing in the
Speaker 3: pictures that can tell me she's making popcorn? I love her.
Speaker 3: She's gonna bring his popcorn rocks out? Are you making popcorn?
Speaker 1: We need popcord?
Speaker 3: Are you gonna turn the magaway?
Speaker 1: Are you putting buttle on a popcorn? Are you gonna
Speaker 1: bring his cups to crunch into a microphone?
Speaker 3: That doesn't sound anything like the police.
Speaker 2: It doesn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was funny though. I'll get back to my thing, okay.
Speaker 3: If if that's the exact same cup that they found,
Speaker 3: and I have nothing in the picture to like tell
Speaker 3: you how big. There's not like a dime or a
Speaker 3: hand or something to give you an idea of how
Speaker 3: big it is. But I would assume it's hand gobblet size.
Speaker 3: You know, you could grab it, it'd be heavy, and
Speaker 3: you wouldn't want to keep it in like a backpack
Speaker 3: or something. There's definitely stuff in the nineteen forties, it's
Speaker 3: much more usable. Yeah, Like I think they had like
Speaker 3: plastic cups. Probably by then they weren't carrying down cast
Speaker 3: iron double lips. To me, like I said before, it
Speaker 3: looks like something you would melt down like a metal
Speaker 3: with a lower melting temperature, and you could you could
Speaker 3: put it like grab it with a clasp and you
Speaker 3: could pour it from either side into a mold. It
Speaker 3: looks like a blacksmithing tool.
Speaker 1: So apparently this guy, Frank Kennard was using coal for
Speaker 1: like a you know, a furnace or something, and there
Speaker 1: was a piece of coal that was too big for
Speaker 1: him to use. So he took the coal and he
Speaker 1: smacked it with a hammer to break it into a
Speaker 1: smaller piece, and out fell this cup, this coal cup
Speaker 1: made of iron. And what was interesting is that the
Speaker 1: imprint in the coal itself had the shape of the
Speaker 1: negative of the cup.
Speaker 3: It was like as though it was cast in the coal.
Speaker 1: It had somehow been in that formation of whatever that
Speaker 1: was that turned to coal around it. So it became
Speaker 1: hole around this thing.
Speaker 3: So it had to work probably to get it out
Speaker 3: right cool.
Speaker 1: And so you know, he was like, wow, that's strange.
Speaker 1: So we actually told other people and there it was
Speaker 1: actually witnesses that came. They signed an affidavit and stuff
Speaker 1: that said this was legit, and then they tracked it
Speaker 1: to where the coal came from, which was this specific
Speaker 1: mine in Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: Oh Okay.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's how this thing, that's how this thing
Speaker 1: kind of came to be. Gotcha, Well, you know, people debate. Now, No,
Speaker 1: it was actually dropped in the coal mine by a
Speaker 1: coal miner, or maybe it was dropped in there and
Speaker 1: then through the process of sledging out the coal that
Speaker 1: it got wet and maybe mashed up, and then it
Speaker 1: re hardened as it dried, and that's why it was
Speaker 1: in this like that seems Yeah, it is kind of
Speaker 1: I would say stretch if I had to guess somebody
Speaker 1: snuck it down there because the picture it's pretty well made.
Speaker 1: It's very symmetrical, yeah, and ergonomic. It tapers at the bottom,
Speaker 1: it's the lips are the same spot, it's got the
Speaker 1: same radius around the edge. But that doesn't mean it's fake.
Speaker 1: It just to me it looks really sophisticated. The other
Speaker 1: thing that's interesting about this is that from that same mind,
Speaker 1: there were a few other artifacts that were found that
Speaker 1: were also embedded in coal, and this is also something
Speaker 1: that's happened in a lot of coal mines all over
Speaker 1: the world where they find artifacts like this in the
Speaker 1: coal that are obviously of human origin. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: it just begs the question that we've been begging this
Speaker 1: whole series. What if the Earth is younger than we
Speaker 1: think or what if man is way older than we think.
Speaker 1: Either way, it breaks some fundamental presuppositions of what the
Speaker 1: timelines are like. So the basic thing is that breaks
Speaker 1: the Darwinian theory and that's why people don't like it.
Speaker 1: People have a lot of invested faith. And I'm going
Speaker 1: to use the word faith because that's what it is,
Speaker 1: because nobody was there to really know. So you put
Speaker 1: your faith in the science, or you put your faith
Speaker 1: in your religion, or you put your faith in whatever.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of faith that will be messed
Speaker 1: up if this proves to be a legitimate artifact.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if there's a way to track it down to it,
Speaker 3: like exactly what time frame it came from.
Speaker 1: And that is what all of these artifacts and things
Speaker 1: that we're talking about why I think it's strange and
Speaker 1: why we're talking about it, because what does that do?
Speaker 1: What does that mean to you in your understanding of
Speaker 1: the universe and the world and who you are as
Speaker 1: a human being? If science falls apart? Okay? Or inversely,
Speaker 1: what if your religion falls apart? Right? What if?
Speaker 3: Which probably be the bigger.
Speaker 1: One probably Yeah, Well, obviously a lot.
Speaker 3: Of people are going crazy.
Speaker 1: You know. You take the foundations of what you believe
Speaker 1: your existence is on, and you break that foundation and
Speaker 1: then you're just left hanging. And what do you do
Speaker 1: in a liquor store do some myth I.
Speaker 3: Don't know, meth liquor store routing, and uh, take a
Speaker 3: big hole and see if you can find something.
Speaker 1: But you know, basically, it shakes things up and it's uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I've had several moments in my life and you probably
Speaker 1: have to where something you really trusted or believed in
Speaker 1: did not work out or you find out it's a
Speaker 1: lie and it messes you up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I don't know if I can really count
Speaker 3: on it. But I'm gonna be a little bit confessional
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, go deep, you know, I'll put let me
Speaker 1: put this summer music on.
Speaker 3: Okay, there, So it wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's ochaos.
Speaker 5: I really tried to cut back on my sugars, and
Speaker 5: I trusted PEPSI and they said, I don't mean to
Speaker 5: make lie. They said that coke zero tastes the same
Speaker 5: as as regular coke, and and I think I said
Speaker 5: it was better to say at first, but it goes
Speaker 5: for both of them. Dude, they lied to me.
Speaker 3: It's okay, they lied. It doesn't taste the same.
Speaker 1: Popcorn, popcorn.
Speaker 6: I feel better, Okay, a popcorn, Mommy, Yeah, thanks mom.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry for anybody who's like me and hates the
Speaker 3: sound of people chewing like a horse that's been deprived
Speaker 3: of food for the last three months. But the popcorn
Speaker 3: was really really good. It was really really my wake
Speaker 3: a good popcorn. She doesn't just like put orful rudden
Speaker 3: balkers in a microwave. She does like some kind of
Speaker 3: weird voodoo with a butter stick.
Speaker 1: And well, what it is, what it is is? We
Speaker 1: way back when we were first married. Got nineteen seventy eight, No,
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six, that's what I said. We just had
Speaker 1: her thirty fifth wedding anniversary.
Speaker 3: We talked about algebra earlier. Don't work it on them.
Speaker 1: But anyway, anyway, I was at before you, so weudly
Speaker 1: interrupted me and chastised me about my eating habits. We
Speaker 1: got this microwave popcorn popper. Yeah, and you pour popcorn
Speaker 1: kernels in the bottom and you microwave it. And for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, the design of this thing that we got
Speaker 1: has been so awesome. We've had it for thirty five years.
Speaker 1: We've tried to buy other ones, yep, and they don't work.
Speaker 1: Is good.
Speaker 3: The one you have has a big old crack in it, yeah,
Speaker 3: because it's old and we use it a lot and
Speaker 3: it makes the best popcorn ever microwave popcorn ever.
Speaker 1: Anyway, miwa.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my wife tried to buy me one, right, maybe
Speaker 3: even I think it was when I bought the house.
Speaker 3: She bought me like a hamper, a bunch of towels,
Speaker 3: like some housewarming type gifts, and then.
Speaker 1: This popcorn microwave popcorn maker.
Speaker 3: And while the design was almost identical, it did not work.
Speaker 3: Maybe it was the microwave, but yours, yours has been
Speaker 3: consistent across various tons of micros.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we've moved many many times.
Speaker 3: I was probably in seventh or eighth grade. I had
Speaker 3: people over and I would make popcorn in that thing
Speaker 3: and like flip it up in the air and wow,
Speaker 3: you have made really good popcorn.
Speaker 1: So, for some reason, for almost all the kernels pop
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know why. It's something about the
Speaker 1: way it's shaped. Maybe it has those little kind of
Speaker 1: reservoirs where the popcorn kernels are. Maybe the angle that
Speaker 1: they sit, I don't know.
Speaker 3: For whatever reason, probably ancient alien technology.
Speaker 1: Be penny penny away, serious business.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I weighed eight pounds, if I weighed that much,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be barking and yelling at people.
Speaker 1: Little Doug syndrome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: That's what it is, okay talking about we're talking about
Speaker 1: the popcorn maker. I don't know ancient.
Speaker 3: Artifacts that still work today.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's thirty years old, but it's still working.
Speaker 3: But okay, the ancient artifact still works proves that there
Speaker 3: is people a long time ago.
Speaker 1: Next time, let's just do another one really quick. This
Speaker 1: one is very interesting. This one's called the Eca stonesca Ika.
Speaker 1: So these were found in Peru at a town called Eca.
Speaker 1: Imagine that. Yeah, so this is like the nineteen sixties
Speaker 1: and there's this guy who originally says he was finding
Speaker 1: these stones in caves and places like that, one of
Speaker 1: those one of those how to Worrow. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: he was taking these and he was selling them to
Speaker 1: tourists or whatever and giving them away as presents. And
Speaker 1: after a while people started going, wait a minute, these
Speaker 1: things look like they're actually, you know, kind of old
Speaker 1: and archaic. Where are you finding these? And he was
Speaker 1: afraid that he was going to get in trouble, so
Speaker 1: then he changed his story and he said, no, I've
Speaker 1: been making these. Yeah, okay, So that was kind of
Speaker 1: how this thing originated. Well, here's the problem. There were
Speaker 1: over fifteen thousand of these stones that were found. Fifteen thousand,
Speaker 1: So I mean, if if you did the math, this
Speaker 1: guy would not be able to create all of these
Speaker 1: stones in his lifetime.
Speaker 3: Would be a full time that's all he would do,
Speaker 3: four to seven or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, basically you would have to be doing these like crazy.
Speaker 1: And these things are very intricate. They were stones that
Speaker 1: had kind of a dark finish, and inside engraved in
Speaker 1: these stones were like all of these animals and creatures
Speaker 1: and shapes and things. And what was so noticeable about
Speaker 1: them was that the stones had pictures of dinosaurs on
Speaker 1: them like dinosaurs and like fish that were really rare.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just there. They're very pretty. I'll
Speaker 1: put a couple of pictures up. They're very pretty and
Speaker 1: they're very dark. But then in white lines like that,
Speaker 1: it's been chiseled away. You see these shapes, and there's
Speaker 1: dinosaurs in different types. So, you know, people after the
Speaker 1: initial kind of archaeological kind of frenzy about them, when
Speaker 1: the guy says, well, I just made it up. I
Speaker 1: made these myself, that became the kind of standard answer
Speaker 1: of what these were, and everybody they just fell off
Speaker 1: everybody's radar, gotcha. But there were some things that didn't
Speaker 1: make sense. One was that other people were finding these
Speaker 1: and other locations.
Speaker 3: Like other archaeologists or like random.
Speaker 1: Just people living in that area were finding the same
Speaker 1: kind of stones in different locations that obviously this guy
Speaker 1: hadn't made. They were finding them in caves or buried
Speaker 1: or wherever.
Speaker 3: Like other parts of the world or country.
Speaker 1: Or no, and that same around that same oh geographical location.
Speaker 1: So if he was making them for himself, then why
Speaker 1: are they at other locations in the same area, right?
Speaker 3: Or he made a whole bunch of them and took
Speaker 3: them to difference and.
Speaker 1: Scattered him around, you know, or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which kind of a bold move.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it would be very hard to do. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you do the math, how many you would have
Speaker 1: to do a day, and how many years of his
Speaker 1: life he would have to spend, say over fifteen thousand. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So there was another thing that was really interesting about
Speaker 1: these in the nineteen sixties. The depictions of one of
Speaker 1: the dinosaurs that was found on one of these ecostones
Speaker 1: was an a potosaurus, A pot a potosaurus, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: and the apotosaurus at that time in textbooks, you know,
Speaker 1: because there were there were textbooks of different kinds of dinosaurs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but somebody had made a mistake and they had put
Speaker 1: the wrong head on the apotosaurus in the textbooks, So
Speaker 1: people had the wrong idea of what a potosaurus looked like.
Speaker 1: They had put a Brontosaurus head on the apotosaurus.
Speaker 3: Oh heavens, yeah, oh my.
Speaker 1: But the ecostone that had the Potosaurus had the correct head.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So how would somebody in Peru somehow know the correct
Speaker 1: head to put on the potosaurus to draw it on
Speaker 1: this stone? How would that farmer in Ika know the
Speaker 1: correct way to draw and a pot of Saurus had
Speaker 1: when all of the textbooks at the time had the
Speaker 1: wrong head on that dinosaur.
Speaker 3: So to clarify, they found these stones that had a
Speaker 3: depiction of a dinosaur on it right that looked this potosaurus.
Speaker 3: But because of later archaeology, they decided unanimously that this
Speaker 3: a potosaurus had a different head than they had originally expected.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if that makes it clear here,
Speaker 1: let me try to get so. Basically, at the time,
Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties, archaeologists had dug up a dinosaur
Speaker 1: called it a potosaur. They had mixed up the heads
Speaker 1: in the depictions of this apatosaurus and put the wrong
Speaker 1: head on it. It was a brontosaurus head put on
Speaker 1: the apotosaurus from what I understand from what I've read.
Speaker 1: So at that time, if that farmer in Ika had
Speaker 1: been copying the pictures of the Apotosaurus and depicting them
Speaker 1: on the stones, he would have put the wrong head
Speaker 1: on the stone on that dinosaur, okay, But instead he
Speaker 1: had the correct head on the stone that he found.
Speaker 3: So what you're saying is somebody at the time, if
Speaker 3: they had been faking finding something that wasn't a potosaurus,
Speaker 3: they would have put the other kind of dinosaur face
Speaker 3: on the but this pilla individual from the ika ikau
Speaker 3: peky guy Peru didn't do that. He put a different
Speaker 3: face on it, and then later it was discovered that
Speaker 3: they had a different face. So it therefore validates that
Speaker 3: guy had the right face and he couldn't have been
Speaker 3: faking it because he didn't put that.
Speaker 1: He could not have put the right head on it
Speaker 1: because they didn't know what the right head was at
Speaker 1: the time. Whoever created that stone knew the correct head
Speaker 1: for that time found out later. That was found out later.
Speaker 3: So this guy guy was ahead of his time.
Speaker 1: He was, Yeah, because they they corrected the head mistake
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 3: You must still that a guy was ahead of his game.
Speaker 1: He was ahead of his time anyway. Yes, So in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine they changed the depiction of the potosaurus
Speaker 1: and it looked like what was on the ecostone from
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty.
Speaker 3: So I think we circuitated that one pretty well.
Speaker 1: So I mean, it's it's not rocket science anyway. So
Speaker 1: people started going, wait a minute, maybe this guy just
Speaker 1: lied about creating them because he was afraid he was
Speaker 1: going to get in trouble and thrown in prison for
Speaker 1: the rest of his life for basically plundering and archaeological
Speaker 1: dig broad Yeah okay, yeah, Well, if these things were real,
Speaker 1: if these things were actually something that somebody had created
Speaker 1: long ago, they dated because the patinas on the stone,
Speaker 1: they think these things had been around for a very
Speaker 1: long time because of the natural kind of patina that
Speaker 1: was put on the stones, and they estimated that they
Speaker 1: were probably up to five six seven, even as far
Speaker 1: as twelve thousand years old. So the problem is if
Speaker 1: dinosaurs were around twelve thousand years ago, that breaks the timeline.
Speaker 1: And these stones obviously weren't three hundred million years old
Speaker 1: or whatever they would have needed to be, so break
Speaker 1: the timeline. And who would have been around way back
Speaker 1: then to see them to create and draw them onto this.
Speaker 3: I know who exactly was around who. His first name
Speaker 3: is SaaS, his last name.
Speaker 1: Is Quatch, Sasquatch. Oh, he's a cousin to bik Foot.
Speaker 3: Big yeah, bak Foot is yep, exactly.
Speaker 1: Okay. So one more interesting thing, really quickly, because we're
Speaker 1: beating this to death, is that in fifteen well I
Speaker 1: think it was in the fifteen hundreds, like fifteen twenty five,
Speaker 1: there was a Jesuit missionary okay, who found a stone
Speaker 1: similar to that. And this is like one hundred years
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty years before this farmer in Ika
Speaker 1: was it ten stones, but he was in the same region, right,
Speaker 1: And this missionary finds a stone and he sends it
Speaker 1: off to Spain and this is in like fifteen sixty
Speaker 1: two something like that, So that's way before this farmer
Speaker 1: guy says that he made them, and so they pre
Speaker 1: exists that and they have dinosaurs on them. This stone
Speaker 1: that was sent to Spain from Peru in fifteen sixty
Speaker 1: whatever it was had a dinosaur on it. That's before
Speaker 1: all of the dinosaur crap took off and the Darwinian
Speaker 1: model took off. So that's another reason people think maybe
Speaker 1: these things have been around a lot longer.
Speaker 3: Okay, And he predated random farmer, yes, who has the
Speaker 3: DNA discrepancy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Jesuit missionary predated Brahm.
Speaker 3: The Eca of Vrom found some stone tablets. It's just
Speaker 3: another thing that shows that timelines maybe aren't as etched
Speaker 3: in time get it as we might think they are. Okay, Anyway,
Speaker 3: that's enough artifacts. Let's go into some other stuff, and
Speaker 3: everybody's heard of these things. So everybody's heard about these
Speaker 3: ancient structures that had you know, were made of like
Speaker 3: the gates are made of like precisely cut stones and
Speaker 3: they're the huge you know, just tons and tons of
Speaker 3: stones moved miles and kind of the Pyramid of Giza
Speaker 3: type scenario and.
Speaker 1: Stacked with precision, cut with precision, somehow moved and built
Speaker 1: with precision. So there are a lot of those things
Speaker 1: around there. I think you even mentioned some of the things,
Speaker 1: things that are etched and engraved in the earth that
Speaker 1: you can only see from up in the air because
Speaker 1: they're massive and I wish.
Speaker 3: I could remember exactly where they came from.
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny you should say that because those images
Speaker 1: are also found in Peru. They're called the Nasca lines
Speaker 1: Naska Naska. You can only see those from the air mostly.
Speaker 1: I mean you can see the trenches and stuff that
Speaker 1: people do aerial view, right, but from an aerial view
Speaker 1: they actually turn into objects and depictions of strange.
Speaker 3: Creatures and dudes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So anyway, that's a fascinating thing. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know what that has to do. With necessarily
Speaker 1: what we're talking about, other than the technology behind it.
Speaker 1: How did that happen?
Speaker 3: How do they know how to do they get that
Speaker 3: astral projecting to a hawk?
Speaker 1: Right? Right?
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: One of the places that I thought was kind of
Speaker 1: interesting to is a place in Turkey. And what's really
Speaker 1: interesting about this place is it has these these columns
Speaker 1: twenty columns or so that are built in concentric circles,
Speaker 1: and they're huge stones, like twenty tons and they're like
Speaker 1: twenty feet high, and they have like engravings on the side,
Speaker 1: depictions of the animals and things like that. And that
Speaker 1: location is called go Beckley Tepe.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's quite the word.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've probably heard of that before. I have heard
Speaker 1: of it. It's a famous place. And what's strange about
Speaker 1: that is, you know, I think when they first saw this,
Speaker 1: they didn't realize how old this was. You know, if
Speaker 1: if this was built around, you know, at the same
Speaker 1: time as like maybe the Egyptians were building the pyramids,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't think so much about it. But this stuff
Speaker 1: dates back to twelve thousand BC.
Speaker 3: Or supposedly supposedly.
Speaker 1: Twelve thousand PC. Yeah, and the technology that they had
Speaker 1: in cutting and stacking and moving these stones is astounding.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe not by today's standards, but from twelve
Speaker 1: thousand BC. I mean, this is like when people are
Speaker 1: coming out of the Fertile Crescent that we were talking
Speaker 1: about with like strange gods, and they're building these sophisticated structures.
Speaker 1: So this kind of messes up the timelines at least
Speaker 1: as far as what we think what kind of technology
Speaker 1: was available at the time.
Speaker 3: The crazy thing about all these little topics we're hitten
Speaker 3: is that we could probably do a single episode on
Speaker 3: anything like Tepe eight.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally.
Speaker 3: I think there's podcasts.
Speaker 1: I think I think at some point we might go
Speaker 1: back and do a full episode on any one of
Speaker 1: these number of things that we talk about. I mean,
Speaker 1: we could totally do an entire.
Speaker 3: Episode on it exactly if we could go there and
Speaker 3: we could check it out. I think we could do
Speaker 3: a full episode on it and actually dig into the details.
Speaker 3: Right now, we're trying to put down on an umbrella
Speaker 3: that kind of covers all these different things that we
Speaker 3: want to look into in the future.
Speaker 1: Well, and the reason we're talking about these in like
Speaker 1: numbers is because what I'm really interested in for this
Speaker 1: series is strange artifacts that beg us to ask questions
Speaker 1: about the timeline. Yeah, to mean, that's the strange thing
Speaker 1: isn't so much the artifacts, although they are strange, But
Speaker 1: what is really strange to me is what it does
Speaker 1: to what we think of as the age of the Earth,
Speaker 1: the age of mankind, those kind of things. That's what
Speaker 1: these turnmite crank got.
Speaker 3: Did you just say teramite crank about no? Because that
Speaker 3: picture you just brought up looks like if I had
Speaker 3: to just imagine something that was called teramite crank, it
Speaker 3: might be it might be that thing termite crank.
Speaker 1: Teramite like the.
Speaker 3: Little bugs that eat would oh it's like a little
Speaker 3: bug that eats would make it's crank.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, This is called the antikythera mechanism. Whoa
Speaker 1: antikeothera antif? Yeah. Yeah, So you know we're talking about
Speaker 1: like strange technologies and things like that. So what this
Speaker 1: is is like an ancient astronomical device. And what's really
Speaker 1: weird about it is that they think this thing was
Speaker 1: made around eighty seven BC, like like really old long
Speaker 1: first century BC. Right, Yeah, and they didn't really know
Speaker 1: what it was at first. It looks like this device
Speaker 1: with gears and crank shafts wheel yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it looks like it's got some cogs or something.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, Well what it did when they finally
Speaker 1: figured out what it was, this thing actually can like
Speaker 1: chart the movement of the planets in the stars.
Speaker 3: So it is a gear. It's like a timing chain,
Speaker 3: like a timing right.
Speaker 1: It's an astronomical measuring device basically. Some people some people
Speaker 1: called it a computer, you know, because it computed the
Speaker 1: trajectories of the different planets and that kind of stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really kind of cool and you read about it,
Speaker 1: it's very fascinating. We're not going to go deep because
Speaker 1: it could be an entire episode kind of like we said, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it is. It's cool looking, and you know what's
Speaker 1: interesting about it other than it's just really cool and
Speaker 1: it's ancient. Basically an ancient calculator or a computer, is
Speaker 1: that it was not even something that we did until
Speaker 1: like like the fourteenth century when people started making mechanical clocks,
Speaker 1: like right before the Industrial Revolution. It's a bizarre thing.
Speaker 3: It's so symmetrical. That's that's what's weird about it is
Speaker 3: it's so round and it has these wheel, Like I
Speaker 3: don't know how to describe it.
Speaker 1: Really, there's some serious tech involved in creating this, you know,
Speaker 1: X Men, X Men.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the old X Men character.
Speaker 1: Arrow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Professor X has those X wheel like his.
Speaker 1: Wheelchair wheelchair okay, yeah, looks like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the wheel, and it's so symmetrical and like perfectly round, and.
Speaker 1: It's kind of machined. It's like wheels within wheels man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's xes within it's x'es and o's.
Speaker 1: They are o's and x'es. Yeah, but it's cool. It's
Speaker 1: it's like something that's kind of way ahead of the
Speaker 1: timeline that you're supposed to think of. And I mean,
Speaker 1: this one's probably a little more explainable than some because
Speaker 1: you know, they were messing around with mathematics and stuff
Speaker 1: at that time, so I guess it kind of makes sense.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, the engineering and the manufacturing
Speaker 1: that went into place to make this very accurate computing
Speaker 1: system is pretty crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So now let's turn a coorder. We talked about artifacts
Speaker 1: a little bit about technology and you know, making crazy
Speaker 1: structures with some kind of technology we don't even know about.
Speaker 1: Now X Men, let's talk about a few other things
Speaker 1: and then we'll jump out of this episode. We'll tied up,
Speaker 1: and that is you know, I talked about finding archaeological
Speaker 1: things that weren't necessarily artifacts, but they were like archaeological
Speaker 1: finds that were messing up the timelines. And we talked
Speaker 1: about finding dinosaur footprints and then finding human footprints with them,
Speaker 1: human foots right alongside in the same rock strata.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: This most famously came about in like the nineteen seventies
Speaker 1: in Piluxi, Texas Dejas Peluxi, Texas Polachias. This was a
Speaker 1: big deal when this first came out. There was this
Speaker 1: famous series of tracks where they found a big dinosaur
Speaker 1: footprint and then alongside of it, walking in the same
Speaker 1: sedimentary layer, were all these supposedly human footprints. And at
Speaker 1: first it stirred things up, and there was like a
Speaker 1: book written about it, you know, and like the creation
Speaker 1: research people jumped all over. It's like, see, we told
Speaker 1: you there are humans walking with dinosaurs. Yeah. Well that
Speaker 1: went on for a while. And once these footprints are
Speaker 1: exposed in the sandstone in the rock layers, once are exposed,
Speaker 1: they actually degrade really rapidly because water's flowing over them
Speaker 1: and stuff, and they don't last very long, and so
Speaker 1: people studying them and then they kind of lost some
Speaker 1: of their fidelity and then they're like, well, no, that's
Speaker 1: just another footprint of a smaller dinosaur walking along a
Speaker 1: big dinosaur. And people kind of like, yeah, poo pooed it.
Speaker 1: And then it kind of went away. And so some
Speaker 1: people had made like a movie about it, and they'd
Speaker 1: written books about it, and you know, like this is
Speaker 1: evidence that man was walking with dinosaurs, and then it
Speaker 1: kind of got discredited and it kind of went away. Well,
Speaker 1: then other things started happening, and that, namely, is they
Speaker 1: found a bunch of other footprints in different locations of
Speaker 1: humans walking along supposedly with dinosaurs.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you would find these footprints same level of sandstone,
Speaker 1: in the same rock layer layer, yeah, and right next
Speaker 1: to each other. And in one case, but this is
Speaker 1: in plexi as well, was a footprint of a dinosaur
Speaker 1: actually stepping on the footprint of a human?
Speaker 3: Is that the picture that's brought up, that's the footprint
Speaker 3: that's up there. Yeah, it looks pretty human footprint. You
Speaker 3: might have a bad case like a gut or something
Speaker 3: like bad bunions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well in this plexi area is I guess it's
Speaker 1: in North Texas. Okay, it's a you know, fifty miles
Speaker 1: or so out of Fort Worth. But anyway, it made
Speaker 1: a lot of waves and a lot of people talk
Speaker 1: about a lot of debate. A lot of creationists we're going, oh, yeah, see,
Speaker 1: we told you younger, and then a lot of scientists
Speaker 1: are going, no, that's crazy, that's just done. First off,
Speaker 1: everybody knows that man was not walking with dinosaurs, So
Speaker 1: it kind of went away. And I'd heard about this
Speaker 1: when I was younger, and so I'm like, whoa, that's
Speaker 1: so cool. Dinotopia is real.
Speaker 3: You gotta go full dinosaur.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So then it kind of, you know, i'd heard
Speaker 1: about that. It was probably a big kind of mistake
Speaker 1: or people were making the big deal out of something
Speaker 1: that wasn't true. So I kind of just let it
Speaker 1: fall off my radar. Well and behold, through the years,
Speaker 1: they found a lot more of these things. And they're
Speaker 1: not all in Texas. They found them in Russia. They
Speaker 1: they found him in Nevada and so and not always
Speaker 1: are there like a human footprint alongside a dinosaur footprint.
Speaker 1: Sometimes all you find in a rock strata that's measured
Speaker 1: to be three hundred million years old. But jillion is
Speaker 1: just a footprint, a human footprint walking, or maybe two
Speaker 1: sets of footprints walking together. The problem is mankind wasn't
Speaker 1: supposed to have evolved until like two hundred thousand years ago.
Speaker 3: They're jumping the gun on, so why in the heck.
Speaker 1: Are there these footprints in three hundred million year old
Speaker 1: rocks of humans?
Speaker 3: Now, it would be really cool just to see like
Speaker 3: a veloci raptor with like a human skull in his digesticis. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that would be really turned my crank.
Speaker 1: Well, did you see that picture I put up on
Speaker 1: last episode, the artwork I did for the last episode
Speaker 1: where there's a guy writing like a tyrannosaurs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a it's an old like petroglyph type picnic pecker.
Speaker 1: What's the name of the the dinosaur that has the
Speaker 1: big spiky nose.
Speaker 3: Triceratops, Yeah, with three horns.
Speaker 1: It's like a guy writing at triceratops. And that's one
Speaker 1: of those figurines that were found. Like there's like fifty
Speaker 1: thousand or thirty five thousand of these things found.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like a it was like a like
Speaker 3: a drawing, like a petroglyph or a no picer.
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't a drawing. This was it wasn't in
Speaker 1: a drawing. It wasn't like an artifact. No, it was
Speaker 1: a clay sculpture of a guy writing a triceratops. Anyway,
Speaker 1: you have to look at the artwork that Obviously I'm
Speaker 1: the one that only ever does anything on the production
Speaker 1: of this stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, production wise, but without me it wouldn't be funny.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, but anyway, there are these weird things
Speaker 1: where human are not where they're supposed to be and
Speaker 1: when well more importantly, they're not when they're supposed to
Speaker 1: be when. Yeah, one other quick thing I wanted to
Speaker 1: just through out there because I thought this was kind
Speaker 1: of cool. And it's known as the Nevada Track. And
Speaker 1: you know, unlike the human footprints in the sandstone, you
Speaker 1: know that have little piggy's and the heel and all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, this is unique because the Nevada
Speaker 1: Track it was found in like nineteen twenty two and
Speaker 1: it's basically a human footprint. But on close examination they
Speaker 1: discovered that the human footprint wasn't actually like the bare
Speaker 1: foot of an imprint. It was like the sole of
Speaker 1: a shoe. So it was a track, a human track
Speaker 1: in stone that they knew that was at least five
Speaker 1: million years old. But it had treadmarks in it, it
Speaker 1: had the actual sole of the shoe, and the different
Speaker 1: textures of.
Speaker 3: The like some moccasin or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and stitching, and it looked like whatever the soul
Speaker 1: was had a unique shape to it. Interesting. And so
Speaker 1: how in the world did a more modern looking shoe
Speaker 1: with a sole end up in a sedimentary layer that's
Speaker 1: supposedly five million years old. At least five million years old,
Speaker 1: humans weren't around according to the accepted timelines right now.
Speaker 1: And so, I mean that's another thing. There are a
Speaker 1: bunch of these kinds of things, and you know, I
Speaker 1: can't even go through them all. I mean, they found
Speaker 1: them in Nevada, they found them in Russia, they found
Speaker 1: them in Texas, they found them all over the place,
Speaker 1: these kinds of weird human artifacts. They found bones buried
Speaker 1: in stone that you know, the sedimentary layers, they're supposed
Speaker 1: to be like three hundred four hundred million years old,
Speaker 1: and they're like a bunch of human bones in there,
Speaker 1: Like that's crazy. Yeah, and they're not like laid in
Speaker 1: there like a grave. They're like all stacked up weird,
Speaker 1: almost like they were dead and then washed into a
Speaker 1: ravine and then that got under high pressure and that
Speaker 1: in case these humans in stone, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: how did that happen?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't dig them down in there or something.
Speaker 3: They's kind of washed into that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So there's a lot of that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: and all of these things mess up the timeline. We
Speaker 1: could go into other things too, about like things found
Speaker 1: inside of the sedimentary layers, where other fossils are found
Speaker 1: from epochs or different time zones that they shouldn't be in,
Speaker 1: you know, like a dinosaur with like maybe some kind
Speaker 1: of mammal or some kind of sea creature. At the
Speaker 1: same time, it's like, well, what's going on now. People
Speaker 1: that believe in you know, creation and catastrophic kind of events,
Speaker 1: they can explain it. Well, yeah, there was the Great
Speaker 1: flawed that's what happened. You take that out of the picture,
Speaker 1: and you're trying to explain these strange cross pollinations of
Speaker 1: different artifacts in something that's supposed to be really old
Speaker 1: in archaeological time. I mean that creates problem. So anyway,
Speaker 1: it's fun stuff to talk about. I don't know, we
Speaker 1: didn't solve anything. We just threw out a bunch of jump.
Speaker 1: We never solve something, but I hope it challenges people
Speaker 1: to check into it and maybe instead of being so
Speaker 1: dogmatic about everything, maybe slather a little bit of suspicion
Speaker 1: on your perception and maybe be willing to think about
Speaker 1: something different. You don't have to believe it, but there's
Speaker 1: no harm in thinking.
Speaker 3: About it, right, It's fun to think about what if
Speaker 3: men know humans did walk with dinosaurs, and maybe dinosaurs
Speaker 3: aren't that old or people are way older than they
Speaker 3: were assumed to be. But the idea of a tribal
Speaker 3: group of old, pre civilization men hunting down a tyrannosaurce
Speaker 3: rex to feed their family, it's a pretty cool idea.
Speaker 3: It is a cool I would play that game all
Speaker 3: day long if it was a video game.
Speaker 1: Well, and kind of like we talked about, like in
Speaker 1: a lot of legends and stuff like that, in different cultures,
Speaker 1: you have people that hunt down and kill dragons, and
Speaker 1: you know, not all of them are like fire breathing.
Speaker 1: Some of them sound like dinosaurs, you know, were they're
Speaker 1: dinosaurs that survive the ice age or whatever, the cataclysm
Speaker 1: the commet that hit and messed everything up. I don't
Speaker 1: know my.
Speaker 3: Tyrannosaurus rex.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta put my arms up like this. Okay,
Speaker 3: picture it at home, people to put your arms up
Speaker 3: like you have no elbows. You gotta say like ha,
Speaker 3: but through your nose, and you gotta say it. Really
Speaker 3: a lot of likes.
Speaker 1: You like that. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know, I saw an article the other day and
Speaker 1: it was on Facebook and one of the news things
Speaker 1: that come up on Facebook. So it's got to be
Speaker 1: true because everything is Everything on Facebook is true and
Speaker 1: if it's not true, they won't let it be on Facebook. No,
Speaker 1: edit it out, Yeah for sure. But anyway, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: don't want to go there. But they believe that the
Speaker 1: t rex didn't look anything like the t rex that
Speaker 1: we've seen in like Jurassic Parking all those. He actually
Speaker 1: had this kind of more bulbous nose. And not only that,
Speaker 1: but he rocked a mullet noise. Yeah, he had like
Speaker 1: hair that went back and was almost mullet looking up.
Speaker 3: He comes from the land with the mullet atacks. I
Speaker 3: thought that was a cool front party in the back.
Speaker 1: It just kind of ruined t Rex for me. I mean,
Speaker 1: he kind of looked like a bozo. I kind of heard,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Read an article here or there on Facebook or whatever
Speaker 3: video on YouTube, but like a t Rex was actually
Speaker 3: more like a scavenger, Like he just kind of like
Speaker 3: mosey around and dead things because he wasn't fast or
Speaker 3: you know, athletic in velociraptors and things like that, or
Speaker 3: more predatory predatory, but he was more like a nomadic type.
Speaker 3: He just wander around me and he dead things.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a guy that has a mullet.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well on that happy sound note, No, I think we
Speaker 1: can get out of this episode and then get onto
Speaker 1: something exciting. I know we've got a couple of trips
Speaker 1: planned in the very near future. We've got some big
Speaker 1: news with kind of a kind of a collaboration with people.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about that in the near future.
Speaker 1: And anyway, we just want to keep doing what we're
Speaker 1: doing and having fun.
Speaker 3: Yep, I got a hunting trip coming up. We're approaching September,
Speaker 3: and as an archery hunter, I get to partake of
Speaker 3: the early season archery shootage of the animals, and hopefully
Speaker 3: I'll be able to have some fun stories coming from that,
Speaker 3: maybe some video or some pictures.
Speaker 1: It's a good time. And before it gets too cold,
Speaker 1: which is going to happen in a couple months, we
Speaker 1: got to get a couple of these trips in on
Speaker 1: our investigatory journeys, and I think those will be fun.
Speaker 1: We got one coming up.
Speaker 3: I don't know if we want to allude to it
Speaker 3: at all, but if you're familiar with children with the corn,
Speaker 3: it's a very similar premise.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll give you a hit. That was so awkward.
Speaker 3: You know, my dinosaur noise reminded me of what in
Speaker 3: Star Wars. There's those Tusken raiders that oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: they give me that.
Speaker 1: That sounds a lot like that. Speaking of sound effects,
Speaker 1: you did a really awesome horse Can you do that?
Speaker 3: I've been working on my horse noise. I don't know
Speaker 3: if I can do it right now.
Speaker 1: You need to pull the micro wave further away. You
Speaker 1: got to pull the microwave further away because you'll match.
Speaker 3: You can do it because I've done horse noises like
Speaker 3: I've tried to do horse noises before, and I could.
Speaker 1: Never do it. I think you should close us out
Speaker 1: with a good horse, horse nose, horse noise, get it,
Speaker 1: damn it.
Speaker 3: That was good, was my vocals.
Speaker 1: And you're all choked up. Well, now that you're all
Speaker 1: choked up, close us out, so Joe does.
Speaker 3: Next time.
Speaker 2: There are some cold drinks and some strange conversations.