WEBVTT 1 00:00:20.399 --> 00:00:23.559 Hi guys, this is Mike. I just wanted to take 2 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:27.359 a couple moments before launching into this final installment of 3 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:31.440 our series on Strange Artifacts and just say I'm sorry. 4 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:34.560 I want to say I'm sorry because it has taken 5 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:37.159 us so long to get this episode ready and out 6 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:39.799 the door. And there are a lot of reasons for 7 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:43.159 that I could bore you with, ranging from heart issues 8 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:49.000 for myself, hunting season for Austin Covid. Let's throw in 9 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:52.679 sick family members that need help. There's just been tons 10 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:54.960 of stuff going on, and it's been really difficult for 11 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:57.920 Austin and I to get together in the studio. We 12 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:01.240 have been talking back and forth about wanting to get 13 00:01:01.240 --> 00:01:04.799 in the studio, but something happened that kind of made 14 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:07.959 Austin have to, well, let's just say, live by himself 15 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:10.400 in his room for a while. I'll let him tell 16 00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:12.719 you about that. He sent me an audio recording that 17 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:15.359 I'm gonna throw in here. I'll put my comments as 18 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:18.239 it goes along, and then we'll just launch into our episode. 19 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:20.120 But anyway, I hope all of our listeners are having 20 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:22.560 a great day. I'm hoping that their life situations has 21 00:01:22.599 --> 00:01:25.599 been a little better than ours recently, but hey, life 22 00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:28.359 is a box of chocolates. You never know what you're 23 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:30.760 gonna get, all right, Austin take it away. 24 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:39.159 Hey guys, it's Austin here. And you know, I feel 25 00:01:39.159 --> 00:01:40.239 like I've let you guys down. 26 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:41.680 Yeah, you kind of have. 27 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:47.359 I feel like I've let myself down. And to be honest, 28 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:57.040 I have you see, it's September, and in September, men 29 00:01:57.120 --> 00:02:00.680 like me take to the woods drama queen to shove 30 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:03.319 a tiny stick through the heart of a living creature. 31 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:12.400 And I failed, but I did catch something, ye, something 32 00:02:12.439 --> 00:02:18.439 called COVID and a sinus infection and strapped throat. 33 00:02:18.759 --> 00:02:21.199 He's been confined to his room for ten days. 34 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:24.199 And while I was out there facing the elements, oh 35 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:27.680 my god, I came back a bit under the weather. 36 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:34.039 So this is a formal apology. 37 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:35.039 It's about time. 38 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:42.000 The late release of our episode, the stagnant time between. 39 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:49.120 Product distribution, blah blah blah blah blah. 40 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:57.240 Has been due to many factors, family, drama, hunting, and illness. 41 00:02:57.400 --> 00:02:59.400 Yeah, I guess that's kind of true. 42 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:01.879 I'd like to say that we're going to get better. 43 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:05.400 And I have before again with the drama, but we 44 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:05.840 all know. 45 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:14.759 That this time of year is specifically hard, so sorry, 46 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:21.439 you're gonna have to deal with it. Hopefully episodes come 47 00:03:21.439 --> 00:03:22.039 out more. 48 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:28.439 Frequently, wouldn't that be something, But don't count on it. 49 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:31.080 It's smart Alec caters. 50 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:48.479 Hey guys, Hey guys. No, hey guys, hey guys, Hey guys. 51 00:03:48.680 --> 00:03:50.960 And uh what I always do this? 52 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:51.479 You do? 53 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:52.680 What episode are we on? 54 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:55.759 You're supposed to ask that before you start? You know, 55 00:03:56.479 --> 00:03:59.080 this is and this is a milestone. We are in 56 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:03.240 episode forty, which is like four times ten. Yeah, that's 57 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:07.240 two times twenty, twenty times twenty. Yeah, no, it's not. 58 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:08.879 You are paying attention. 59 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:11.159 I just let you ramble when you start doing that 60 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:14.240 stuff where you're like, it's the same as purple and 61 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:18.759 lavender and blue plus red and well it's. 62 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:19.759 Same as five times eight. 63 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:21.639 Okay, yeah, whatever you say. 64 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:24.720 Six times ten minus four times five? 65 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:29.720 All right? Yeah, my dad's good at basic algebra. 66 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:31.680 That's just basic math. 67 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:34.680 I think it's algebra. He's not good at definitions, though. 68 00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:35.600 Is that your stomach? 69 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:36.839 I didn't make no noises. 70 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:40.319 It could have been mine. I must be hungry. You 71 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:43.439 gotta tell me, grobble whatever that is? 72 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:44.079 Okay? 73 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:47.680 Anyway, what are we talking about today we are continuing, actually, 74 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:52.000 we are going to wrap up our discussion on strange artifacts, 75 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:55.759 just strange things that kind of challenge the timelines of 76 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:58.959 how long humans have been running around on this big 77 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:04.439 giant ball, organic spaceship, this celestial sphere that is spinning 78 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:05.839 through outer space. 79 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:07.480 It might be flat though, you know. 80 00:05:07.519 --> 00:05:10.240 I read somewhere that the Earth is traveling through space. 81 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:12.519 It's sixty seven thousand miles per hour. 82 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:12.839 Wow. 83 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:16.639 I see a Facebook post of like a guy in 84 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:19.680 a Honda Civic floor in it and it says like 85 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:23.040 eighty miles an hour. And then it shows a picture 86 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:25.439 of a guy in like a rocket and it's like 87 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:28.720 four hundred miles an hour. However, rockets go. And then 88 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:31.319 there's a picture of a guy at a park serving 89 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:33.800 a hot dog and it's like sixty seven thousand miles 90 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:36.240 an hour because he's rotating. 91 00:05:37.600 --> 00:05:38.720 Oh gotcha. 92 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:41.120 I was like, what, I don't know if that's the number? 93 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:43.160 Sure, you know, hot I think it was. I don't know, 94 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:48.600 it was me. I think we could we could find out, Hey, 95 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:52.959 how fast is the Earth moving through space? Sixty seven 96 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:54.120 thousand miles per hour? 97 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:56.519 Noise The website Scientific. 98 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:59.000 American dot com they say it covers this root and 99 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:01.839 the speed of nearly three kilometers per second for sixty 100 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:03.199 seven miles per hour. 101 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:05.000 Thanks Google, that'll be quiet. 102 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:05.800 You're a sweet art. 103 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:07.120 Yeah, so there you go. 104 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:08.399 See sixty seventy. 105 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:15.759 I'm maybe getting older, but I still have it. Okay, 106 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:19.399 silence and crickets. Put crickets in there. 107 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:24.680 Yeah you're impressed, aren't you. 108 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:28.519 I am impressed. So, yeah, what we've been talking about 109 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:32.639 are just things that kind of mess up the status quo. 110 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:35.120 As far as the timeline. 111 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:36.600 I think we drilled that pretty good in the last 112 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:39.519 two episodes, right, and we talked about some other things 113 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:41.720 we just hinted at him, but we didn't have time 114 00:06:41.759 --> 00:06:44.160 to really dive into them because we would have been 115 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:47.000 talking too long and we tend to do often. 116 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:49.720 Yeah, it's a thing, but I just wanted to mention, 117 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:53.360 just real quickly, a couple more of the artifacts that 118 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:56.000 are out there that kind of beg that you know, 119 00:06:56.079 --> 00:06:59.160 mankind has been around longer. Okay, and you know, like 120 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:02.240 all of the other ones, they are up for debate. 121 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:04.800 There's a lot of critics that say, no, this stuff 122 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:08.519 is garbage, It was a hoax or whatever. For some people, 123 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:12.040 they believe that these things are proof that man has 124 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:14.759 either been around for a heck of a long time, 125 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:18.439 like we're talking of hundreds of millions of years, or 126 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:21.639 the Earth is much younger than we think it. 127 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:24.959 Is, and that's what these quote unquote artifacts or fossils 128 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:26.199 or whatever implying. 129 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:29.439 Right. Okay, so let's just we'll just do a couple 130 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:31.560 a couple more and then we'll jump into some other 131 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:33.680 things that we kind of hit it atka. One of 132 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:38.120 the most famous finds is this iron cup. It's like 133 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:42.720 a cast iron cup that was found old in Rome and. 134 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:45.079 The gladiators used it to protect their Tinitalia. 135 00:07:45.279 --> 00:07:47.600 Well, that's a different kind of cup. This is like 136 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:50.959 a sippy cup. This is like a really old sippy cup. Yeah, 137 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:54.160 but anyway, it was found in a coal mine, Okay, 138 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:55.800 and people digging. What was that? 139 00:07:56.360 --> 00:08:00.519 Okay, So my wife interrupts this podcast. She just finished 140 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:04.720 being Annie Oakley and a local theater performance of Annie Gets. 141 00:08:04.519 --> 00:08:05.959 Your Guns, which he was really good at. 142 00:08:06.160 --> 00:08:08.240 She did great. She got a bunch of big bruises 143 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:11.360 on her legs from riding a motorcycle. But she just 144 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:14.839 texts me this, I believe in safety in numbers point 145 00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:18.199 two to two point four point four to five nine 146 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:22.360 to milimeters thirty to six point two two three. 147 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:29.600 Safety in rifles and ammunition, various calibers. So what was 148 00:08:29.639 --> 00:08:33.360 I saying before your wife rudely and but annoyingly interrupted me? 149 00:08:34.320 --> 00:08:35.799 Something about bullets? 150 00:08:36.240 --> 00:08:39.720 Yeah, okay, what No, you went for it though, and 151 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:42.120 I did for a second, because I never paid attention 152 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:42.919 to what you're saying. 153 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:47.679 That's true. I spend my childhood. You're talking about the 154 00:08:47.679 --> 00:08:49.679 big Genitalia protective covering. 155 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:52.720 Yeah, we were talking about we're talking about cast iron cups, 156 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:55.639 and I was saying that they are like sippy cups, right, 157 00:08:55.679 --> 00:08:59.399 But this sippy cup was found deep, like mile deep 158 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:03.840 or so, in a coal mine and the estimated age 159 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:08.279 of that region was like over three hundred million years old. 160 00:09:08.600 --> 00:09:11.200 That's pretty darn old, pretty old, right, that's an old 161 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:11.759 ass cup. 162 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:14.840 Yeah. So imagine you're you're a minor, you're down in 163 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:15.440 his mind. 164 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:19.559 It's very dark and can buy alcohol, can't gamble, and 165 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:21.320 you got your pick axe and you're in there and 166 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:24.240 you're like sledging out coal and you're. 167 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:29.000 Wow, crumble crumble crumbling, then wow grumble crumble couple, and 168 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:29.679 then all of a sudden. 169 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:34.559 Yeah, I got like that is that cast iron? 170 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:35.240 Is that more tin? 171 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:37.639 I think a cast I don't know. Both of them 172 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:40.600 would probably go like clunk, yeah, clunk, because they're kind 173 00:09:40.600 --> 00:09:41.039 of soft. 174 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:44.440 Yeah, but it's a metallic sound. And outing out of 175 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:49.600 the co drops a thing that's obviously not like the coal. 176 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:51.720 Probably identified at the time as a chin of derrick. 177 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:54.639 Yeah. So they pick it up and they start looking 178 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:56.440 at it, and it's like it's a cup. It's a 179 00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:58.480 it's a cup that looks like it's got two little 180 00:09:58.519 --> 00:09:59.840 poor spouts on either side. 181 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:02.240 Yeah, it looks a lot to me like something a 182 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:05.360 blacksmith's would use, Like if you we would melt lead 183 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:09.879 down to use as like a vibration dampener, and we 184 00:10:09.919 --> 00:10:12.480 would melt it down in a cup that looks very similar. 185 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:12.759 Yeah. 186 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:15.039 Picture it kind of looks like a crucible or something, 187 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:18.639 but it's miniature. It's not very big. It's small. And 188 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:24.039 this happened in nineteen forty eight, and it happened in Oklahoma, Oh, 189 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:27.759 in a mine in Oklahoma. Now, like all other things 190 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:31.120 that we've talked about, it's highly debated. It's tried to 191 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:34.399 be totally debunked over and over again. People don't like 192 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:37.919 this stuff, especially scientists, which I want to take a 193 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:42.919 moment here about science. I like science. I would say 194 00:10:42.960 --> 00:10:47.039 that I ethne love science, but I don't like that word. 195 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:50.039 I hate that word. But I do like that site. 196 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:53.360 And I am a science fan and I'm somewhat of 197 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:55.679 a science nerd. Not that I'm really good at it 198 00:10:55.840 --> 00:10:59.240 or really knowledgeable or anything, but I like it. So 199 00:10:59.399 --> 00:11:01.879 I want shout out to Kate. 200 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:03.000 So. 201 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:07.159 Kate is one of the new listeners that started listening 202 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:11.480 due to a shout out about our podcast by eleven 203 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:17.320 fifty nine Media, Yeah and their new podcast called Hugs Hugs. 204 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:21.480 They did a shout out to a Strange Thing podcast 205 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:27.679 and she started listening. Yeah, thank you, thank you so much. Guysator, yes, 206 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:34.279 the operator and Jack and Kent Kent Yeah, yeah, he's 207 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:35.559 talks so stoically. 208 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:38.159 He's great. 209 00:11:38.279 --> 00:11:42.039 He's a good guy. So Kate sent me an email 210 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:46.639 through our website and said, hey, you said that the 211 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:52.960 first law of thermo dynamics is pseudoscience fist law of thermodynamics, Yeah, 212 00:11:53.000 --> 00:11:56.200 which you know is basically saying that energy cannot be 213 00:11:56.360 --> 00:11:59.799 created or destroyed, it just changes form like aminta. 214 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:01.240 Yeah. 215 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:05.480 Well, terminated gives it can be destroyed. Yes, again. And 216 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:07.639 so when she told me about it, I thought, you 217 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:09.200 know what, I got to go back and listen to that. 218 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:11.679 And it was an episode thirty six and it was 219 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:15.120 our episode on Strange Ghosts, and we were talking to 220 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:18.679 a guy at a campfire who mentioned his theory that 221 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:22.480 maybe what happens is since that first law of thermodynamic 222 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:27.159 is fact or it's provable that maybe what happens when 223 00:12:27.159 --> 00:12:29.559 you die, the energy of you does not you know, 224 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:33.639 dissipate or disappear or end. It actually just simply transforms 225 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:37.840 into a new dimension or new shape or form or something. 226 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:39.840 Do you have to let it linger? 227 00:12:40.399 --> 00:12:45.200 Yeah? And I was basically saying that some people take 228 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:49.240 that idea and they create a pseudoscience because they're using 229 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:52.480 the first law of thermo dynamics and saying, okay, now 230 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:58.519 that that proves that ghosts are these entities that transform 231 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:02.840 from life to death spirits. So that is what I 232 00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:06.440 was talking about as pseudoscience. And so I just want 233 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:10.120 to clarify, Kate, I really appreciate you taking the time 234 00:13:10.799 --> 00:13:15.240 to email us and voice your concerns because we really 235 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:18.600 value science. And I know also you mentioned that you 236 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:21.519 know you can deal with. You know that we talk 237 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:25.679 occasionally about our religious beliefs or perspectives or whatever that 238 00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:28.519 we've had in the past, and I want to say 239 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:30.639 thank you for that too, that the patience you have 240 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:35.720 with us, because just like you, me and Austin, probably 241 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:38.840 to maybe a lesser extent, have had to wrestle with 242 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:43.679 our faith systems because of the religious let's call it 243 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:48.639 rigidity that we've experience, or that I've experienced as a kid, 244 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:51.720 and I was in rebellion against that for a long 245 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:54.519 long time. And I just want to say that we 246 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:58.960 try really, really hard. Although I do have a faith, 247 00:13:59.639 --> 00:14:02.120 I do not want that to be something that I'm 248 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:05.679 trying to push on people or do some kind of 249 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:09.799 a doctrination or vangelization. I just throw things out there 250 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:11.919 because it's where I'm at right now in the story 251 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:15.399 of my life. And so anyway, Kate, thank you. I 252 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:17.679 hope I clarified that enough for you, and well. 253 00:14:17.559 --> 00:14:20.200 Let's get back to it. I feel as though this 254 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:22.960 would be a perfect thing that we could talk about 255 00:14:23.559 --> 00:14:26.919 on an Open Nike episode, Open and Austin episode. 256 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:29.600 It would be a fantastic We definitely and all even 257 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:30.600 play that audio clip. 258 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:36.519 Yeah, oh, Rosco peak. 259 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:37.240 Train is not you. 260 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:37.840 What's that guy? 261 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:38.519 The laughing guy? 262 00:14:38.519 --> 00:14:40.679 And he's like, that's Frosco. 263 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:43.240 No, it's a different guy. He's he was he was 264 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:45.840 like an overnight sensation. He was like a he'd like 265 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:47.679 got a million hits on him. I was thinking. And 266 00:14:47.720 --> 00:14:49.960 he laughed, you know, he's like he's got a chicken 267 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:52.600 or something. And there's like they're talking about the birds 268 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:54.519 and he starts laughing about his chicken. He's like. 269 00:14:56.519 --> 00:15:00.799 I heard, well, well he does that too. 270 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:06.000 I mean, anyway, we are way off. But anyway, so yeah, okay, 271 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:10.200 objects found in coal right, Okay, we have this iron 272 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:14.720 cup in Oklahoma. Now it's one of many. There are 273 00:15:14.879 --> 00:15:18.480 lots of artifacts that have been found in coal mines. 274 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:23.000 Now skeptics will say, oh, these things aren't you know, 275 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:26.200 three hundred million years old. They are artifacts that somebody 276 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:28.159 that was digging in the coal mine dropped and then 277 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:29.200 somebody else picked it up. 278 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:30.480 He dropped his tankred. 279 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:32.960 Yeah. But one thing that's kind of unique about the 280 00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:37.360 iron cup that was found in Oklahoma, Alklahoma, in Alklahoma 281 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:41.120 is that it's kind of a unique design. It's not 282 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:43.879 like something that people had at that time that they 283 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:46.720 would use somewhere in a coal mine. I mean, why 284 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:49.840 would you carry a cast iron anything into a coal mine? 285 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:52.960 It's too heavy. You know, you'd take a tin thing, 286 00:15:53.279 --> 00:15:54.720 or you'd take you know whatever. 287 00:15:54.799 --> 00:15:56.879 If that's the actual thing that you brought up on 288 00:15:56.919 --> 00:15:59.320 the screen right now, and I have nothing in the 289 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:04.159 pictures that can tell me she's making popcorn? I love her. 290 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:08.200 She's gonna bring his popcorn rocks out? Are you making popcorn? 291 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:12.399 We need popcord? 292 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:15.480 Are you gonna turn the magaway? 293 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:20.200 Are you putting buttle on a popcorn? Are you gonna 294 00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:23.480 bring his cups to crunch into a microphone? 295 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:26.720 That doesn't sound anything like the police. 296 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:27.159 It doesn't. 297 00:16:28.480 --> 00:16:32.759 Yeah, it was funny though. I'll get back to my thing, okay. 298 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:36.200 If if that's the exact same cup that they found, 299 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:39.399 and I have nothing in the picture to like tell 300 00:16:39.440 --> 00:16:41.639 you how big. There's not like a dime or a 301 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:43.639 hand or something to give you an idea of how 302 00:16:43.639 --> 00:16:47.480 big it is. But I would assume it's hand gobblet size. 303 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:50.080 You know, you could grab it, it'd be heavy, and 304 00:16:50.120 --> 00:16:52.000 you wouldn't want to keep it in like a backpack 305 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:55.120 or something. There's definitely stuff in the nineteen forties, it's 306 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:57.960 much more usable. Yeah, Like I think they had like 307 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:01.120 plastic cups. Probably by then they weren't carrying down cast 308 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:04.039 iron double lips. To me, like I said before, it 309 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:07.799 looks like something you would melt down like a metal 310 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:10.359 with a lower melting temperature, and you could you could 311 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:13.160 put it like grab it with a clasp and you 312 00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:15.599 could pour it from either side into a mold. It 313 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:17.519 looks like a blacksmithing tool. 314 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:24.119 So apparently this guy, Frank Kennard was using coal for 315 00:17:24.279 --> 00:17:27.799 like a you know, a furnace or something, and there 316 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:29.759 was a piece of coal that was too big for 317 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:33.160 him to use. So he took the coal and he 318 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:35.480 smacked it with a hammer to break it into a 319 00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:39.519 smaller piece, and out fell this cup, this coal cup 320 00:17:40.119 --> 00:17:43.799 made of iron. And what was interesting is that the 321 00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:48.680 imprint in the coal itself had the shape of the 322 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:50.519 negative of the cup. 323 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:53.240 It was like as though it was cast in the coal. 324 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:56.480 It had somehow been in that formation of whatever that 325 00:17:56.799 --> 00:17:59.799 was that turned to coal around it. So it became 326 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:01.119 hole around this thing. 327 00:18:01.240 --> 00:18:02.799 So it had to work probably to get it out 328 00:18:02.920 --> 00:18:03.359 right cool. 329 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:06.400 And so you know, he was like, wow, that's strange. 330 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:08.359 So we actually told other people and there it was 331 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:11.240 actually witnesses that came. They signed an affidavit and stuff 332 00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:13.240 that said this was legit, and then they tracked it 333 00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:16.880 to where the coal came from, which was this specific 334 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:18.200 mine in Oklahoma. 335 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:20.160 Oh Okay. 336 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:22.759 So anyway, that's how this thing, that's how this thing 337 00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:25.640 kind of came to be. Gotcha, Well, you know, people debate. Now, No, 338 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:28.119 it was actually dropped in the coal mine by a 339 00:18:28.119 --> 00:18:30.680 coal miner, or maybe it was dropped in there and 340 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:33.960 then through the process of sledging out the coal that 341 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:36.359 it got wet and maybe mashed up, and then it 342 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:38.359 re hardened as it dried, and that's why it was 343 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:41.599 in this like that seems Yeah, it is kind of 344 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:44.119 I would say stretch if I had to guess somebody 345 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:47.640 snuck it down there because the picture it's pretty well made. 346 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:53.000 It's very symmetrical, yeah, and ergonomic. It tapers at the bottom, 347 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:55.799 it's the lips are the same spot, it's got the 348 00:18:55.839 --> 00:18:59.480 same radius around the edge. But that doesn't mean it's fake. 349 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:03.519 It just to me it looks really sophisticated. The other 350 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:06.759 thing that's interesting about this is that from that same mind, 351 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:09.440 there were a few other artifacts that were found that 352 00:19:09.480 --> 00:19:13.319 were also embedded in coal, and this is also something 353 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:15.359 that's happened in a lot of coal mines all over 354 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:18.440 the world where they find artifacts like this in the 355 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:22.039 coal that are obviously of human origin. So, I mean, 356 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:24.839 it just begs the question that we've been begging this 357 00:19:25.079 --> 00:19:30.279 whole series. What if the Earth is younger than we 358 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:35.480 think or what if man is way older than we think. 359 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:41.240 Either way, it breaks some fundamental presuppositions of what the 360 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:45.200 timelines are like. So the basic thing is that breaks 361 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:49.920 the Darwinian theory and that's why people don't like it. 362 00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:52.680 People have a lot of invested faith. And I'm going 363 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:54.440 to use the word faith because that's what it is, 364 00:19:54.440 --> 00:19:57.200 because nobody was there to really know. So you put 365 00:19:57.200 --> 00:19:59.000 your faith in the science, or you put your faith 366 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:01.000 in your religion, or you put your faith in whatever. 367 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:03.920 But there's a lot of faith that will be messed 368 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:08.039 up if this proves to be a legitimate artifact. 369 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:10.279 Yeah, if there's a way to track it down to it, 370 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:13.240 like exactly what time frame it came from. 371 00:20:13.240 --> 00:20:16.000 And that is what all of these artifacts and things 372 00:20:16.039 --> 00:20:18.240 that we're talking about why I think it's strange and 373 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:21.079 why we're talking about it, because what does that do? 374 00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:24.640 What does that mean to you in your understanding of 375 00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:27.200 the universe and the world and who you are as 376 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:33.599 a human being? If science falls apart? Okay? Or inversely, 377 00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:37.599 what if your religion falls apart? Right? What if? 378 00:20:37.640 --> 00:20:39.160 Which probably be the bigger. 379 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:41.359 One probably Yeah, Well, obviously a lot. 380 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:42.319 Of people are going crazy. 381 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:45.079 You know. You take the foundations of what you believe 382 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:48.720 your existence is on, and you break that foundation and 383 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:50.799 then you're just left hanging. And what do you do 384 00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:55.799 in a liquor store do some myth I. 385 00:20:55.720 --> 00:21:00.279 Don't know, meth liquor store routing, and uh, take a 386 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:01.680 big hole and see if you can find something. 387 00:21:01.839 --> 00:21:05.680 But you know, basically, it shakes things up and it's uncomfortable. 388 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:08.359 I've had several moments in my life and you probably 389 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:11.799 have to where something you really trusted or believed in 390 00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:13.960 did not work out or you find out it's a 391 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:16.119 lie and it messes you up. 392 00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:19.440 Yeah, Like, I don't know if I can really count 393 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:22.079 on it. But I'm gonna be a little bit confessional 394 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:22.440 right now. 395 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:25.000 Okay, Yeah, go deep, you know, I'll put let me 396 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:26.079 put this summer music on. 397 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:31.119 Okay, there, So it wasn't that long ago. 398 00:21:31.359 --> 00:21:34.279 Oh no, it's ochaos. 399 00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:39.000 I really tried to cut back on my sugars, and 400 00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:45.160 I trusted PEPSI and they said, I don't mean to 401 00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:50.880