Speaker 1: There are some things you can only learn as you
Speaker 1: get older.
Speaker 2: This is uh, and this is very important. I was
Speaker 2: talking to you one of my friends who's younger, you're like,
Speaker 2: way younger than.
Speaker 1: Me, and how they rehired someone to do a project
Speaker 1: forum of forgotten how bad they were, so started going
Speaker 1: through it again, this person. And now because they're going
Speaker 1: through it now, they're reminded why.
Speaker 2: What I'm working for?
Speaker 1: And I'm laughing it's because because I feel bad for
Speaker 1: my friend, of course, but I laughing because I'm like
Speaker 1: that happens. Sometimes you're like, oh, now I wonder why
Speaker 1: you're a dick?
Speaker 2: Got it? When I asked him, I go, so you
Speaker 2: don't remember like I forgot, you know?
Speaker 1: And so and I know this person, this person is.
Speaker 1: This person wants to believe in people.
Speaker 2: And wants to and it wants to give people a
Speaker 2: chance or two.
Speaker 1: That's fine and dandy. I need you sometimes I learned.
Speaker 1: But there's some things you only learn as you live
Speaker 1: longer in life. You got and you get more examples
Speaker 1: that you're like, oh, okay, I got it for me.
Speaker 2: James Lodd Jr. You do me wrong? Are you? Are?
Speaker 1: You make you feel bad? I never forget, so I
Speaker 1: don't know doubt that's there happens. And I was like
Speaker 1: that eve when I was younger, but now that I'm older,
Speaker 1: I don't. I might not remember exact every exact detail,
Speaker 1: but if I want to cross you, your name and
Speaker 1: your likeness you and I start to feel it comes
Speaker 1: right back to me. The feeling. So I always say,
Speaker 1: it's the way people make you feel is what lasts forever.
Speaker 1: Remember all the details and all the stuff. But when
Speaker 1: if someone you like comes along, you see them again,
Speaker 1: you're happy to see them.
Speaker 2: You're like, oh my goodness, it's you. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: If it's somebody you don't want to see.
Speaker 1: Again and you see them, you feel all those emotions
Speaker 1: kind of like ohugh, or somebody is kind of oily
Speaker 1: or slick, you just it just comes right back to you, say,
Speaker 1: oh this person, yeah, this person's little I will live
Speaker 1: in my contact, you know you just I just I
Speaker 1: don't forget anything.
Speaker 2: I don't and.
Speaker 1: I don't want you because I want to make sure
Speaker 1: I don't make the same mistakes over again. I don't
Speaker 1: want to have the same heartaches. Or people are who
Speaker 1: they are or who they choose to be, doesn't mean
Speaker 1: you have to work with them or be with the
Speaker 1: word except or how they are. But I mean you
Speaker 1: accept how they are, weans you have to work with
Speaker 1: them also or be around them. You just go, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's you. That's how you do business. That's not how
Speaker 1: I do business. So I will go over here and
Speaker 1: find somebody who works similar to me. That, to me,
Speaker 1: is the healthiest thing you can do.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I have learned through trial and error. That's saying you
Speaker 1: can't go home. Many times you just can't. I left
Speaker 1: an industry association changed my whole life sixteen years ago.
Speaker 2: I left disgruntled.
Speaker 1: Left a decade later, I come back to association in
Speaker 1: a different capacity, but I'm working for them again, and
Speaker 1: at first it's wonderful. I'm thinking, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is actually one of those situations. Is working out well.
Speaker 1: It did for a few years, but then it didn't,
Speaker 1: and epically I was fired, but also as the first
Speaker 1: time I was ever fined for a job. Actually, and
Speaker 1: I actually left disgruntled again.
Speaker 2: So that case, it's you can look at two ways.
Speaker 2: And I didn't go back home.
Speaker 1: It was successful for a couple of years, but I
Speaker 1: look the other way, which is the way I'm looking at.
Speaker 1: I'll do work with the river again. Like it's like
Speaker 1: I'm done, like I've done, I'm done working with them.
Speaker 1: I tried it twice and it badly both times. I'm good,
Speaker 1: but said I didn't forget how they cheated it before.
Speaker 1: I just I just I came in and I did
Speaker 1: it once. Be four years ago. I had I used
Speaker 1: to work at a place called Headlines. I had left
Speaker 1: the scrunts Hold.
Speaker 2: They asked me back and at during capacity.
Speaker 1: Did that job. Didn't mind that job so much. And
Speaker 1: then they would let people go.
Speaker 2: They let my boss go, who I actually liked, and
Speaker 2: I was like the writings on the wall, they're closing down.
Speaker 1: I just left and not like I left the scruntsle
Speaker 1: by this new Yar's time, I was gonna go.
Speaker 2: I got on a job somewhere else. I said. I
Speaker 2: just left before they they cut me a check.
Speaker 1: Let left, so that I kind of got before the end.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't really discreinsoled. But I didn't go back,
Speaker 1: and it worked. It worked for a while. I didn't
Speaker 1: go back comedy. It worked for a while. It was
Speaker 1: a lot of work, but for me, I give, I give.
Speaker 1: I had a couple of actors. I'm like, so on
Speaker 1: my dramas, I did give them a couple of chances, seriously,
Speaker 1: a couple of chances, and they just didn't and they
Speaker 1: and they disappointed me.
Speaker 2: I had one.
Speaker 1: I gave a chance four times. One girl. I felt
Speaker 1: so bad for him because she had a personal life
Speaker 1: was a mess, and I just felt bad for it.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, she just sell he did.
Speaker 1: I was like, and I liked working with her when
Speaker 1: we did work together, but she kept not showing up.
Speaker 1: They got two, they kept not showing up, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: but I like you guys, Eddie got potential, but you're
Speaker 1: not sure you're you're setting anything back. The whole productions
Speaker 1: were getting getting so I had to finally I had
Speaker 1: to let them go.
Speaker 2: I told them why I always went a while ago,
Speaker 2: and I was very polite about it. Was like I'm done.
Speaker 1: And then like a couple of years later, both of
Speaker 1: them try on social to try to get me.
Speaker 2: I had to block them on everything. They were trying
Speaker 2: to you have anything, you have anything, I'm back, I'm back,
Speaker 2: you know, follow me. Finally they were trying their best cota.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I gave you guys.
Speaker 1: Each and I wasn't going to engage either, Like I'm
Speaker 1: not engaging with you. We're done, We're done, We're done,
Speaker 1: and you get me wrong three or four times, like
Speaker 1: literally I can name each time. I have all the
Speaker 1: text and email training, I had the paper trail everything,
Speaker 1: but I gave you three or four chances because I
Speaker 1: liked you, and I got screwed over every single time.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't even about me. It was about the
Speaker 1: other cast members people's time. I'm not paying anybody at
Speaker 1: the time, it was like it it was just a
Speaker 1: waste of everything, and I'm the one who's losing out.
Speaker 2: And so it's kind of like I'm not here.
Speaker 1: I can't I can't work with your whims the way
Speaker 1: the wind blows suddenly.
Speaker 2: Just no, it's how that works, Jason.
Speaker 1: Your has to like not I can't do that. That's
Speaker 1: just not how that works. So that was a that
Speaker 1: was that, and that's always tough. But I just I
Speaker 1: just never I never forget and I just don't. I
Speaker 1: don't want to heart again. So I'm hearing my friend
Speaker 1: like a coup of people. I don't do this one.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't you know, I'm I'm hind poms and give
Speaker 1: me and he spent the person that workers giving them
Speaker 1: attitude and I graduate there where I'm like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: didn't do anything wrong, but now you're you're now.
Speaker 2: You're stuck the situation. You can't forget.
Speaker 1: Remember this like it's too late now, but so remember
Speaker 1: this situation and vow to yourself you're not gonna.
Speaker 2: Do this, you know what I mean. It's like you
Speaker 2: have to. You just kind of you have to move on.
Speaker 1: And I know where some people they're looking, they're looking
Speaker 1: for approval, they're looking for something and they're not getting it.
Speaker 1: So they say, put themselves situations. They'll they'll take the situation.
Speaker 1: They'll be upset, not happy in it, but they'll be
Speaker 1: in it. Whether it be a relationship or a friendship
Speaker 1: or whatever. They'll just just go, Okay, well I'll just
Speaker 1: I'll I can't get anything else, I'll take this.
Speaker 2: You're like, no, I guess.
Speaker 1: For me, I'd rather be alone. That's the other thing too.
Speaker 1: I'm not looking for a proof from anybody. I'm not
Speaker 1: looking for a tribe or like, I'm not looking for
Speaker 1: you a stuff, not l I just not looking at
Speaker 1: ustuff at all. And I have friends who leave cities
Speaker 1: because they're.
Speaker 2: Done with them, Like I did. I left my cities
Speaker 2: when I was done there and went to other.
Speaker 1: Places and and just try and starts over there. And
Speaker 1: I just think there are some people who they will
Speaker 1: hold on to their thoughts and beliefs. They'll hold on
Speaker 1: to them so tightly they're strangling themselves and again to
Speaker 1: put themselves these situations over and over again.
Speaker 2: So they're just not good. And they complained about it.
Speaker 2: You're like, but you put yourself in a situation.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for you obviously, but like I don't
Speaker 1: tell you, like, so you're going through and you know,
Speaker 1: And it's funny because I have friends who are going
Speaker 1: through some stuff that me I feel that they brought
Speaker 1: on themselves. So I'm just going, hey, you don't want
Speaker 1: to kim when they're down. You know, you don't want
Speaker 1: to do that. You never want to do that. That's
Speaker 1: not a good thing to do. So I'm talking about
Speaker 1: my mouf shut. I just listen, you're sounding board and
Speaker 1: we go out of business because I just go, well,
Speaker 1: you're doing you're doing it to yourself. I have give
Speaker 1: suggestions in the past. You don't take them. So I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna waste my breath anymore to give your suggestions
Speaker 1: unless you ask, Unless you directly ask you, James, what
Speaker 1: do you think?
Speaker 2: Then I will tell you. But I've learned a long
Speaker 2: time ago. I get I don't give. I just know.
Speaker 1: I just I said back and listen. You're calling to
Speaker 1: events or whatever. I listen, and that's it.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't do anything else because.
Speaker 1: I've learned my lessons and I continue learning my lessons,
Speaker 1: so I don't call events to people, So I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't do that. So I saw. I'm like, so
Speaker 2: I learned my lessons. I move on to something else.
Speaker 1: And but I know some people feel like they're talking out.
Speaker 1: When we're talking out, it's fine, but I'm like, now,
Speaker 1: what what are you going to do about this?
Speaker 2: That was that? That you know? They don't go through
Speaker 2: this again?
Speaker 1: And I have certain friends I say, like they're always
Speaker 1: going through something that actually they're right, it's not their
Speaker 1: fault and quotes it's not their fault. But they surround
Speaker 1: themselves with people who don't treat them with respect.
Speaker 2: That is so high.
Speaker 1: As you get older to you watch you watch them
Speaker 1: do that. I don't know if some people, it could
Speaker 1: be a parent to adult child. It could be older
Speaker 1: friend a younger friend.
Speaker 2: It could be.
Speaker 1: Mentors to mante could be colleagues. When you see someone
Speaker 1: not protecting themselves so to speak, and like living their life,
Speaker 1: it could be the fullest or you see them not happy,
Speaker 1: You're like you want to you want to step in,
Speaker 1: take you or fix it. As this older perviewers want
Speaker 1: to fix it. But it's not my job. I'm not that,
Speaker 1: it's not my life. That they have to figure it
Speaker 1: out for themselves.
Speaker 2: They have to. I'm here, I'm always here.
Speaker 1: I'm always here listen and letting the ear or shoulder
Speaker 1: or possibly a piece of advice. But I'm just it's
Speaker 1: just tough. But for me, you do me wrong a
Speaker 1: couple of times at the very least that we're done.
Speaker 1: There is no third for those those channels. Multiple chances
Speaker 1: are usually over.
Speaker 2: Over. It's just fifty plus.
Speaker 1: There's a few lessons of things that we learn as
Speaker 1: we get over. Over our fifties, you learned stuff like this,
Speaker 1: and I scaped the forties.
Speaker 2: That's like, here's my fifties. I really started learning these.
Speaker 1: Lessons and really paying attention to how it is people.
Speaker 1: Everyone has their thing, all of us we have our
Speaker 1: stuff and doesn't mean they were compatible with everybody. Bottom Line,
Speaker 1: Tuesday's a new episodes, Touch you next time.